Latest / UK Column Radio / UK Column News — 22nd May 2026
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- 0:08Speaker 1: Good afternoon.
- 0:09Speaker 2: It's Friday, the twenty second of May twenty twenty six,
- 0:11Speaker 2: just after one o'clock. Welcome to UK column News. I'm
- 0:13Speaker 2: your host Mack Robinson joining me in the studio today
- 0:15Speaker 2: it's Patrick Hennison. Welcome to the program. Patrick, great to
- 0:18Speaker 2: be with you, Mike, and by video link, we're joined
- 0:20Speaker 2: once again by Basil Valentine. Now later in the program,
- 0:23Speaker 2: we're going to be taking a look at the fight
- 0:24Speaker 2: between Citi Can and the Met Police over our contract
- 0:27Speaker 2: with Palanteer. We'll have news from the Digital Money Summit
- 0:31Speaker 2: held in London on Tuesday and Wednesday. This week we'll
- 0:33Speaker 2: be covering the fallout of the treatment of people from
- 0:37Speaker 2: the Gaza Flotela by Israel and also the shift towards
- 0:40Speaker 2: strone warfare. We're going to begin today with Basil and
- 0:43Speaker 2: the latest from the Makerfield by election. Basil, Welcome to
- 0:46Speaker 2: the program.
- 0:48Speaker 3: Hello Mike, and hello to our viewers all around the world. Yes,
- 0:52Speaker 3: make a Field or breaker Field they're calling it because
- 0:57Speaker 3: Andy Burnham's political career is very much on the line
- 1:01Speaker 3: with this. He must win this seat to stand any credibility.
- 1:04Speaker 3: But it's a really bizarre set of circumstances that are
- 1:08Speaker 3: coming together. He is the odds on favorite with the
- 1:11Speaker 3: book makers. They give him about a sixty seven percent
- 1:15Speaker 3: chance of winning the seat, in spite of the fact
- 1:17Speaker 3: that Reform got at least half.
- 1:20Speaker 4: The votes there in the local elections and came.
- 1:23Speaker 3: Second in the constituency in the twenty twenty four general election.
- 1:28Speaker 3: Now Burnham has kicked off his campaign with an interview
- 1:31Speaker 3: with BBC Radio Manchester and as we can see here,
- 1:36Speaker 3: he's looking for a complete reset, almost to pole Potlight
- 1:40Speaker 3: year zero. I think we need to bring what we've
- 1:43Speaker 3: done in Greater Manchester to the national level. And what
- 1:46Speaker 3: I mean is different type of politics is what he's
- 1:49Speaker 3: pioneered here. And he's also talking about enabling less profit
- 1:56Speaker 3: making and more problem solving. We go and yeah, we've
- 2:04Speaker 3: been on the wrong path for forty years. Well, I
- 2:06Speaker 3: wouldn't disagree with him there.
- 2:08Speaker 4: He said all rot started in the.
- 2:11Speaker 3: Nineteen eighties with the de industrialization of large parts of
- 2:15Speaker 3: Greater Manchester. But then we got into the deregulation of buses,
- 2:19Speaker 3: privatized and privatization of the basics of life, the austerities
- 2:24Speaker 3: of the twenty tens. So what's Burnham got to say
- 2:32Speaker 3: about this like some kind of ghoul. Really, the worst
- 2:38Speaker 3: thing that could possibly happen to his campaign would be
- 2:41Speaker 3: a visit from Secure Starmer, the Prime Minister. It's a
- 2:45Speaker 3: bit like King George going to welcome Bonnie Prince Charlie.
- 2:50Speaker 4: A really strange situation.
- 2:52Speaker 3: Starmer is still in office but not really in power,
- 2:57Speaker 3: and he's insisted he wants to go up to make
- 3:00Speaker 3: Field to campaign. I think it's highly likely the Burnham
- 3:05Speaker 3: campaign are going to say to him, don't bother, he's
- 3:08Speaker 3: so toxic. But it is odd because Starmer hasn't announced
- 3:15Speaker 3: his resignation, says he won't walk away and that he's
- 3:19Speaker 3: going to fight on, so I don't think he'll be
- 3:23Speaker 3: very welcome up in Manchester. He's about as popular, well
- 3:29Speaker 3: marginally more popular than Prince Andrew. I think that's probably
- 3:33Speaker 3: the person that the King of the North would least
- 3:37Speaker 3: like to see, the former Duke of York, and Starmer
- 3:41Speaker 3: runs him a pretty close second. So Reform, of course,
- 3:47Speaker 3: are the major challengers to.
- 3:51Speaker 4: Burnham.
- 3:52Speaker 3: Faraches described the VI election as a David versus Goliath battle.
- 3:56Speaker 3: He told ITV News that Reform would throw the kitchen
- 4:00Speaker 3: in sync at it and the party's priority in the
- 4:03Speaker 3: region will be to ease pressure on social housing. That's
- 4:07Speaker 3: the first time I've ever heard Reform talk about social housing.
- 4:11Speaker 3: I'm surprised, to be honest. Usually, of course, their mainstay
- 4:16Speaker 3: is immigration. No doubt that'll be an issue up there
- 4:20Speaker 3: as well. Now the Reform candidate, well, he's already in
- 4:25Speaker 3: a bit of trouble because of his associations, which aren't
- 4:30Speaker 3: too popular in some quarters.
- 4:34Speaker 4: Kenyan.
- 4:35Speaker 3: His name is Robert Kenyan, and critics have said he
- 4:39Speaker 3: was friends on Facebook with the former BNP in Britain
- 4:42Speaker 3: first member Gary Rakes, who now leads the New British Union,
- 4:47Speaker 3: the modern successor to Oswald Mosley's British Union of Fascists.
- 4:52Speaker 3: Kenyan's account was suspended after reportedly making comments about Asian
- 4:56Speaker 3: men walking around Birmingham, assaulting white people on mass and
- 4:59Speaker 3: claiming that far right rioters don't really exist, but Reform
- 5:03Speaker 3: are standing by him now for the first time in
- 5:07Speaker 3: British history, there will also be a candidate from Restore Britain,
- 5:12Speaker 3: Rupert Lowe's party, which positions itself somewhere to the right
- 5:16Speaker 3: of Reform. They've chosen a local businesswoman as their candidate
- 5:22Speaker 3: Rebecca Shepherd, age fifty three, who was described by the
- 5:26Speaker 3: party as understanding first town the pressures facing local businesses
- 5:31Speaker 3: and working families across the area. Restore Britain leader Rupert
- 5:37Speaker 3: Lowe said Shepherd would fight for the interests of the
- 5:40Speaker 3: community rather than political careers. They are, needless to say,
- 5:44Speaker 3: a lot in Reform are absolutely apoplectic with rage that
- 5:49Speaker 3: Rupert Lowe's crowd are going ahead with a full steam
- 5:54Speaker 3: campaign to try and get her elected. They're not holding
- 5:58Speaker 3: back at all. They're not fielding her as a token candidate.
- 6:02Speaker 3: They want to win the seat and they are in
- 6:04Speaker 3: fact third in the betting about twenty to one if
- 6:09Speaker 3: you think that they might actually prevail. The United the
- 6:13Speaker 3: Kingdom rally so called that Robinson held last Saturday, he
- 6:19Speaker 3: asked the baying crowd who they would vote for and
- 6:23Speaker 3: whether he misheard them or was simply indicating his own preference.
- 6:27Speaker 3: It seemed to be Restore Britain. So a big fight
- 6:31Speaker 3: there on the right, which obviously increases Burnham's chances, which
- 6:37Speaker 3: will be enhanced by the fact that the Green Party
- 6:41Speaker 3: aren't really getting involved, particularly since their initial candidate was
- 6:47Speaker 3: forced to withdraw after a matter of only nine hours,
- 6:50Speaker 3: surely the shortest candidacy for a by election in history.
- 6:56Speaker 3: Now they insist that his withdrawal was due to personal
- 7:01Speaker 3: and family reasons. Mister Kennedy is a registered nurse and
- 7:04Speaker 3: children's safeguarding specialist, and he wanted to focus on the
- 7:08Speaker 3: caring responsibilities of his family. People usually say that after
- 7:11Speaker 3: they've been caught in compromising positions or something. But the
- 7:16Speaker 3: Times newspaper, it seems, is intent on doing the work
- 7:21Speaker 3: of the Israeli embassy and ferreted out a tweets by
- 7:26Speaker 3: mister Kennedy saying that he thought the ambulance attack in
- 7:30Speaker 3: North London was a false flag, believe it or not,
- 7:35Speaker 3: So you're not allowed to say that. Of course, you know,
- 7:38Speaker 3: whether he's right or wrong. That's simply outside the acceptable
- 7:42Speaker 3: opinion corridor. Likewise, the original Green candidate was this young lady,
- 7:48Speaker 3: and she too doesn't appear to be getting the job.
- 7:52Speaker 4: Hayley Pierce. She had the audacity to say that.
- 7:56Speaker 3: Israel is ruining the world. My goodness, where on earth
- 7:59Speaker 3: did she get that idea from. She's a portrait artist
- 8:02Speaker 3: and she was the original preferred choice, but it seems
- 8:06Speaker 3: to fail. Pout of the vetting procedure. The Greens are
- 8:11Speaker 3: regrouping and are going through another selection process to find
- 8:17Speaker 3: a candidate, but the word on the street up there
- 8:20Speaker 3: is they will not be running a full campaign. They're
- 8:23Speaker 3: going to basically give way to Burnham because Burnham has
- 8:27Speaker 3: made noises about wanting proportional representation. They don't want to
- 8:31Speaker 3: give the seat to Reform and well that might be
- 8:35Speaker 3: an indication of things to come.
- 8:37Speaker 4: Other Green activists, of course, are.
- 8:39Speaker 3: Dismayed by what they see as an opportunity missed, if
- 8:42Speaker 3: not to run a serious candidate of their own, although
- 8:45Speaker 3: they had come fifth there in the recent local elections,
- 8:49Speaker 3: then at least to extract some solid concessions from Burnham
- 8:53Speaker 3: on his way to his coronation the King of the
- 8:56Speaker 3: North Bondy, Prince Charlie of the twenty first century.
- 9:01Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, But some israel the influencer.
- 9:05Speaker 5: Well that's the accusation that this vetting process Basil's talking about.
- 9:09Speaker 1: Who's doing the vetting?
- 9:10Speaker 5: Is it the Board of Deputies is at the Israeli
- 9:13Speaker 5: special interest pressure groups. That's a big question in the
- 9:16Speaker 5: UK now, especially after the ousting of Jeremy Corbyn and
- 9:19Speaker 5: the purging of the Labor Party of any pro Palestinian sentiments.
- 9:23Speaker 5: But in the United States, this problem takes on a
- 9:26Speaker 5: whole different scale, as we will show you here. This
- 9:30Speaker 5: is the big news in America this week. Trump backed
- 9:33Speaker 5: Ed Gowering defeats Representative Thomas Massey in the GOP primary.
- 9:39Speaker 5: And this isn't just any primary there he is. That
- 9:41Speaker 5: is Ed Gowering, former Navy seal. Nobody ever heard of
- 9:45Speaker 5: him before this election. He didn't campaign, he didn't do
- 9:48Speaker 5: any debates, no television interviews, basically ran a Joe Biden's
- 9:52Speaker 5: style campaign from the basement, and somehow had this late
- 9:56Speaker 5: surge of well, we'll show you in a minute, but
- 9:58Speaker 5: to votes that came out of quite frankly nowhere, raising
- 10:01Speaker 5: a whole lot of questions. Here and let's take a
- 10:04Speaker 5: look at this. So this is Massy lost as the
- 10:07Speaker 5: turnout doubled. The math on this is just extraordinary. And
- 10:11Speaker 5: you compare this to twenty twenty four, that was the
- 10:13Speaker 5: last congressional election in this primary here in twenty twenty
- 10:18Speaker 5: six here, and you can see the just massive spike
- 10:21Speaker 5: in the opponent there. His opponent only got twelve thousand
- 10:24Speaker 5: votes in twenty twenty four fifty seven thousand votes in
- 10:28Speaker 5: that constituency now in twenty twenty six, unbelievable, more than
- 10:32Speaker 5: double the amount of votes, which is really strange because
- 10:36Speaker 5: the polling suggested it was a dead heat at the
- 10:39Speaker 5: beginning of the campaign here, But we're no stranger to
- 10:42Speaker 5: these sort of anomalies having covered elections in the past.
- 10:45Speaker 5: Let's look at the maths again. Here massive votes plus
- 10:48Speaker 5: nineteen point one percent their opponent, plus three hundred and
- 10:53Speaker 5: fifty six percent three hundred and fifty six percent for
- 10:58Speaker 5: the opponent. I mean mathematically, this is beyond an anomaly here,
- 11:02Speaker 5: So that's sort of the voter turnout effectively doubled in
- 11:06Speaker 5: this election here, and then the takeaway Massey gained votes,
- 11:10Speaker 5: but turnout surge and the anti Massey vote exploded. The
- 11:14Speaker 5: question is why this is from red lines. By the way,
- 11:16Speaker 5: we'll put a link in these show notes to these
- 11:19Speaker 5: numbers here on X. But let's take a look at
- 11:22Speaker 5: the maths a little bit closely here. Where did these
- 11:24Speaker 5: votes come from? Well, there was an unprecedented surge of
- 11:28Speaker 5: eight hundred and fifty four mail in votes for Ed
- 11:30Speaker 5: gowering Thomas Massey lost by two hundred and eighty votes
- 11:35Speaker 5: raises quite a few questions, doesn't it here, So we've
- 11:38Speaker 5: got to break down here the odds of this happening
- 11:41Speaker 5: in terms of actuaries, we're talking about one in two hundred.
- 11:44Speaker 5: I mean, it's very improbable. But hey, we live in
- 11:48Speaker 5: the age of miracles. Follow the money question. Everything says
- 11:51Speaker 5: Thomas Massey here and let's go right now, let's take
- 11:55Speaker 5: a look at So this isn't Ed Gowery's sort of
- 12:00Speaker 5: acceptance speech or victory speech.
- 12:02Speaker 1: This is a watch party.
- 12:03Speaker 5: But take a look at the types of people at
- 12:06Speaker 5: the watch party. So what did you notice there from
- 12:42Speaker 5: the types of people there? Tell me, did you see
- 12:47Speaker 5: anybody under the age of sixty? Well, no, so the
- 12:51Speaker 5: average age. You know these are boomers. So boomers all
- 12:54Speaker 5: pro Israel to the hilt, no doubt. But that's a
- 12:57Speaker 5: watch party. Now where did all the voters come from? Again,
- 13:01Speaker 5: hard to explain here. Now, in contrast, we'll take a
- 13:04Speaker 5: look at this is Thomas Massey's concession speech in Kentucky constituency,
- 13:10Speaker 5: and just look at the difference and just the widespread enthusiasm,
- 13:15Speaker 5: the energy, and this was indicative throughout the campaign. So
- 13:26Speaker 5: massive difference there. What what was driving these changes here? Well,
- 13:33Speaker 5: here's one place where we can start. If these were
- 13:36Speaker 5: legitimate numbers, it's debatable at this point. Massi's primary is
- 13:40Speaker 5: the most expensive in history. Pro israel groups have played
- 13:43Speaker 5: a huge part of this political Before the election here,
- 13:47Speaker 5: billionaire voters led by the Israeli lobbies spent or record
- 13:50Speaker 5: breaking thirty five million to oust a GOP stalwart Congressman
- 13:55Speaker 5: Thomas Masse in Kentucky. That's a congressional district. The budgets
- 13:59Speaker 5: and what they spend normally, it doesn't get this high.
- 14:02Speaker 5: It doesn't even get over five or six million normally,
- 14:06Speaker 5: So this is totally unprecedented. If we bring that back
- 14:09Speaker 5: up on screen, that would be great. There we go, Yeah, thanks,
- 14:12Speaker 5: So it's thirty five million. Just to put that into perspective,
- 14:16Speaker 5: that is proportionally more than if you look at the
- 14:20Speaker 5: increase from previous elections, more than the last three presidential
- 14:23Speaker 5: elections combined. Proportionally, that is a lot of capital here.
- 14:28Speaker 5: So the question is what's behind that that sort of trend.
- 14:33Speaker 1: That's the big question.
- 14:35Speaker 5: So in terms of the Israeli money, well, a lot
- 14:39Speaker 5: of Israeli supporters are doing victory laps after this, here's one.
- 14:43Speaker 1: We'll listen.
- 14:45Speaker 6: I think it is a good thing if Massey and
- 14:48Speaker 6: the people like him and others believe that if you cross,
- 14:54Speaker 6: if you cross the line into anti Semitism, Jews are
- 14:58Speaker 6: going to use the power that we we have openly
- 15:02Speaker 6: to go for you, because what other recourse is there?
- 15:07Speaker 6: Are we just going to sit here and take it
- 15:09Speaker 6: beg for scraps hope that nice people in you know
- 15:14Speaker 6: are are nice to us. The Democratic Party is going
- 15:17Speaker 6: explicitly anti Semitic. We can see it happening. People are
- 15:21Speaker 6: getting benefits, as Seth says, for being anti Semites. That
- 15:25Speaker 6: seems to be part of an appeal in primaries to
- 15:29Speaker 6: the left and the party. We have to use what
- 15:32Speaker 6: means there are at our disposal, and in my view,
- 15:36Speaker 6: and I'm going to put it back, that is Jewish money.
- 15:38Speaker 6: There is an enormous amount of Jewish money in politics,
- 15:41Speaker 6: by which I mean Jewish donors wildly disproportionate, not only
- 15:48Speaker 6: charitably but politically. And when I say charitably, I mean
- 15:52Speaker 6: nobody really knows the numbers. Jews make up two percent
- 15:56Speaker 6: of the population. According to some studies, Jews makeup twenty
- 16:00Speaker 6: percent of the charitable contributions made in the United States annually,
- 16:06Speaker 6: that is a tenfold Think about that, think about the
- 16:10Speaker 6: disproportion of that. And in politics it's pretty close also.
- 16:13Speaker 6: And if that money isn't used, why do people give
- 16:16Speaker 6: money because they want to influence elections to get people elected.
- 16:21Speaker 5: Well, that is a major Jewish advocate there, Jewish American
- 16:27Speaker 5: advocate saying that not any far right conspiracy theorist or podcaster.
- 16:32Speaker 5: So that's kind of a victory. Laports. Who are we're
- 16:35Speaker 5: looking at there? Who is that gentleman. We'll bring us
- 16:37Speaker 5: up on screen here. That is John Potterretz and he
- 16:40Speaker 5: is a major Israeli American advocate. He is a staunch
- 16:45Speaker 5: Zionist and he's really laying it out there for everybody
- 16:49Speaker 5: to hear, not shy at all. Basically, they're going to
- 16:52Speaker 5: go after what they're deeming to be anti Semitic candidates.
- 16:56Speaker 5: Thomas Massey's his being anti Semitic means Thomas Massey opposed
- 17:01Speaker 5: the war in Iran, and Thomas Massey opposes Israel dictating
- 17:06Speaker 5: US foreign policy. And Thomas Massey opposes I packs plowing
- 17:11Speaker 5: hundreds of millions of dollars into congressional incentate campaigns. So
- 17:17Speaker 5: that's deemed to be anti Semitic according to all of
- 17:20Speaker 5: these leading Jewish and Israeli American pundits. So do you
- 17:25Speaker 5: think there's a debate? Do you think this is a
- 17:27Speaker 5: conversation that we can have so and how high does
- 17:31Speaker 5: this go? Well, here's the President of the United States,
- 17:33Speaker 5: who again is also doing a victory lap this week,
- 17:36Speaker 5: Donald J.
- 17:37Speaker 1: Trump. From his own.
- 17:39Speaker 7: Mouth, I'm right now at ninety nine percent in Israel,
- 17:44Speaker 7: I could run for prime minister. So maybe after I
- 17:47Speaker 7: do this, I'll go to Israel run for prime minister.
- 17:51Speaker 7: At a pall this morning, I'm ninety nine percent, so
- 17:54Speaker 7: that's good.
- 17:54Speaker 5: But I mean to see, all he needs is a
- 17:59Speaker 5: yamaca on and it'll be perfect. But that's the President
- 18:02Speaker 5: of the United States, so I think, and that's what
- 18:04Speaker 5: Masse was basically running against. So listen, we're in for
- 18:10Speaker 5: a hell of a battle coming up. Massi's still in office,
- 18:13Speaker 5: by the way, seven more months in office, so there'll
- 18:15Speaker 5: be a lot of conversations that are going to happen
- 18:18Speaker 5: while he's still in office, and the gloves will be off,
- 18:20Speaker 5: so it's going to be very very interesting. And one
- 18:23Speaker 5: last interesting story on the issue of Israel will bring
- 18:26Speaker 5: this up. This is absolutely incredible. I did not know
- 18:29Speaker 5: anything about this before this was published. Freddie Ponton's done
- 18:34Speaker 5: a tremendous article here about how Germany paid for Israel's
- 18:37Speaker 5: nucletar bombs. So this lays out the entire structure of
- 18:42Speaker 5: how the West German at the time, the West German
- 18:45Speaker 5: government during the Cold War basically arranged and funded through
- 18:49Speaker 5: a series of financial instruments and funds to basically bankroll
- 18:55Speaker 5: Israel's secret nuclear program. This is all public domain now,
- 19:00Speaker 5: so a lot of recent documents have been released on this.
- 19:04Speaker 1: So oh and I.
- 19:05Speaker 5: Just just one last thing I forgot. This piece should
- 19:10Speaker 5: have been after Trump. But Trump says he has got
- 19:13Speaker 5: a ninety nine percent popularity rating in Israel. Well this
- 19:17Speaker 5: is his popularity rating in the United States drops below
- 19:21Speaker 5: thirty five percent of Republican support. So no, just overall support.
- 19:27Speaker 5: So thirty five percent of Americans back Trump, but he's
- 19:30Speaker 5: got a ninety nine percent approved rating in Israel. We think, why,
- 19:35Speaker 5: what does that tell you that we have a serious
- 19:38Speaker 5: problem with the democracy in the United States or the
- 19:42Speaker 5: constitutional republic.
- 19:43Speaker 2: Absolutely, now, let's come back to the UK then and
- 19:47Speaker 2: talk about Volunteer for a moment. Well, LA Guardian is
- 19:49Speaker 2: claiming this as an exclusive. This is the news that
- 19:53Speaker 2: the London Mayor's Office has blocked a fifty million pound
- 19:56Speaker 2: contract between the Metropolitan Police and Polunteer for the use
- 20:00Speaker 2: AI to automate intelligence analysis in criminal investigations. The size
- 20:05Speaker 2: of the contract would have that third behind the three
- 20:08Speaker 2: hundred and thirty million pound and two hundred and forty
- 20:11Speaker 2: million pounds with the NHS England and the Ministry Defense respectively,
- 20:16Speaker 2: and would have been the largest contract with the police. Now,
- 20:19Speaker 2: before we get all excited, but they can deciding that
- 20:23Speaker 2: Pollunteer is no good. The reason for the dispute is
- 20:27Speaker 2: purely technical because MOPAK, which is the Mayor's Office for
- 20:31Speaker 2: Policing and Crime, vetoed the deal because the Metropolitan Police
- 20:35Speaker 2: hadn't asked for it has asked it for approval first, sorry.
- 20:39Speaker 2: Neither Guardian reports a letter to the met Commissioner Mark Rowley,
- 20:43Speaker 2: in which Ken's Deputy Mayor for Policing and Crime has
- 20:46Speaker 2: put her on screen. Kaya Comer Schwartz said, I've not
- 20:51Speaker 2: been provided with any acceptable explanation for this failure, which
- 20:55Speaker 2: I regard as a clear and serious breach of applicable
- 20:57Speaker 2: procedural requirements. And then the Met Police, for their part,
- 21:02Speaker 2: said the MOPAQ. The DESI by Mopak is disappointing. We
- 21:07Speaker 2: need to modernize and use the very best technology available.
- 21:10Speaker 2: We must be able to innovate at a faster rate
- 21:12Speaker 2: than hostile states and organized criminals. For now, this decision
- 21:16Speaker 2: prevents is using technology already available to the MD, the
- 21:19Speaker 2: NHS and other police forces. Now, the Met Police has
- 21:24Speaker 2: another contract with Palanteer valued at four hundred and eighty
- 21:28Speaker 2: nine nine hundred ninety nine pounds, and the size of
- 21:31Speaker 2: that contract is designed to fall just under the five
- 21:35Speaker 2: hundred thousand pounds threshold above which MOPAK is required to
- 21:39Speaker 2: scrutinize and sign off any Metropolitan Police procurement. But this
- 21:44Speaker 2: contract is all about polunteer monitoring the behavior of police
- 21:48Speaker 2: officers themselves. The vast majority of Met officers and staff,
- 21:52Speaker 2: they say, serve London with dedication and integrity, and they
- 21:55Speaker 2: rightly expect robust action against a small minority who abuse
- 21:58Speaker 2: their position or undermine public trust, particularly in leadership roles.
- 22:03Speaker 2: Strengthening standards is therefore not only about public confidence, but
- 22:07Speaker 2: about backing those officers and staff who do the right
- 22:09Speaker 2: thing every day. Over recent months, the met has developed
- 22:13Speaker 2: a new capability, they said, through a pilot with technology
- 22:17Speaker 2: firm Volunteer. Following the broadcast of BBC Panorama Undercover in
- 22:22Speaker 2: the Police, the METS said, by a series of commitments
- 22:25Speaker 2: to accelerate our approach the culture, integrity and professional standards.
- 22:29Speaker 2: That was their position on it. Unsurprisingly, the Metropolitan Police
- 22:34Speaker 2: Federation is less than excited about this contract. The met
- 22:38Speaker 2: Police Federation is taking this unprecedented step, they said, of
- 22:42Speaker 2: warning colleagues about the risks of taking work phones and
- 22:44Speaker 2: other digital devices home after the Metropolitan Police use intrusive
- 22:49Speaker 2: AI software to accuse officers of misconduct. The Staff Association,
- 22:53Speaker 2: they said, which represents more than thirty thousand frontline police
- 22:56Speaker 2: officers in London, was not informed that the police force
- 23:00Speaker 2: would be using volunteers artificial intelligence to analyze the movements
- 23:04Speaker 2: of cops in the capital. And so I'm going to
- 23:07Speaker 2: say that Panopticon is not just about it's not just
- 23:10Speaker 2: for the public. So it's pretty ironic that the Metropolitan
- 23:13Speaker 2: Police Federation is whining about this because this is the
- 23:16Speaker 2: same technology that the police is deploying against us all
- 23:19Speaker 2: but in the meantime, The Metropolitan Police then has confirmed
- 23:23Speaker 2: live facial recognition deployments in crime hotspots of Bexley and
- 23:28Speaker 2: Lambeth Burghs in London yesterday. But for more background on
- 23:32Speaker 2: the rollout of AI driven live facial recognition, have a
- 23:36Speaker 2: look at the Parliamentary Office of Science and Technologies most
- 23:39Speaker 2: recent Facial Recognition Technology and Policing note which they published
- 23:44Speaker 2: last month. But so have a look at that for
- 23:47Speaker 2: a bit more background. The link to that will be
- 23:50Speaker 2: in the show notes.
- 23:51Speaker 5: Quick comment, Mike, what's to say the government will not
- 23:55Speaker 5: deploy the exact same system with the police are doing
- 23:58Speaker 5: here with NHS staff two million NHS employees and the
- 24:02Speaker 5: list goes on every government department and the receiving and
- 24:07Speaker 5: every corporation as well. This is this is Amazon is
- 24:10Speaker 5: deploying these exact systems. Retailers are doing it as well,
- 24:14Speaker 5: not to spy on shoplifters, but to monitor employee performance.
- 24:18Speaker 5: This is a big growth area in this technology. I
- 24:20Speaker 5: know people working in this field in sales. They will
- 24:23Speaker 5: not go on record to talk about this, unfortunately, but
- 24:26Speaker 5: we are talking to them.
- 24:28Speaker 2: Right okay, absolutely we are, and well of more on
- 24:31Speaker 2: this in the coming days.
- 24:32Speaker 1: And weeks.
- 24:33Speaker 2: Let's move on to quick god break here.
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- 26:07Speaker 2: move back then to Basil and Basil, what's the letterst
- 26:11Speaker 2: on the Gaza Fattila, Well.
- 26:15Speaker 3: The ladies on the glass of fertility is that it
- 26:16Speaker 3: has turned into the biggest pr disaster for Israel of
- 26:21Speaker 3: the last few years. Really it's Ima Ben Gavier, the
- 26:25Speaker 3: Security and Prisons minister, proudly displayed footage of himself abusing
- 26:32Speaker 3: detainees on X and said, you know, with the captain,
- 26:37Speaker 3: excuse me, welcome to Israel. Now, these has brought widespread condemnation,
- 26:43Speaker 3: including from and usually European diplomats, some of whom have
- 26:48Speaker 3: started imposing sanctions on him. But first let's have a
- 26:51Speaker 3: look at some of the original footage.
- 26:54Speaker 9: Here, thank you for him a baby saying I know,
- 27:09Speaker 9: I'll tell you.
- 27:26Speaker 10: Lords.
- 27:33Speaker 3: Of course, doctor Frank Romano, who was on this very
- 27:36Speaker 3: channel a couple of weeks ago, is amongst those detained.
- 27:40Speaker 3: We hope he's safe and well. It's worth remembering, of two,
- 27:44Speaker 3: of course, that the boats were intercepted in international waters,
- 27:48Speaker 3: which makes it an act of piracy. Here's some more
- 27:52Speaker 3: footage of what happened.
- 27:56Speaker 11: In my bedyard.
- 27:58Speaker 4: I can get me just.
- 28:06Speaker 9: Than man become.
- 28:17Speaker 4: Ben Givia.
- 28:17Speaker 3: They're saying, give them to me for a long time.
- 28:20Speaker 3: These people are terrorists. They deserve long prison sentences as well. Lettigna,
- 28:24Speaker 3: who is a bit more canny than him, and the
- 28:28Speaker 3: vast majority of them have been deported, but not before
- 28:33Speaker 3: they had suffered some truly horrific abuse. This is Tiago Abyla,
- 28:39Speaker 3: one of the leaders of the flotilla, speaking after his deportation.
- 28:46Speaker 11: There is no easy way to see.
- 28:47Speaker 12: It's what I have to say, the Master of Soldiers, they.
- 28:57Speaker 11: Was one.
- 29:00Speaker 12: In many cases of sexual violence against our participants.
- 29:04Speaker 11: In the prison boat.
- 29:06Speaker 12: On their way to the part of our software, they
- 29:08Speaker 12: got once again beaten up. Many people have broken rips,
- 29:12Speaker 12: many people with broken bones in the arms, the color
- 29:15Speaker 12: bone ribs.
- 29:17Speaker 11: We're talking about monsters.
- 29:19Speaker 12: We're talking about genocideal state that takes pleasure in the violence,
- 29:23Speaker 12: that takes pleasure in torture, in people, that use rapid,
- 29:28Speaker 12: systematic sexual violence against Palestinians but.
- 29:31Speaker 11: Also against our topular members. This needs to stop. We
- 29:34Speaker 11: cannot accept the country that we leave that international humanitary.
- 29:37Speaker 11: The love does not apply to them.
- 29:39Speaker 12: We cannot accept a country that humanize people at such
- 29:42Speaker 12: a level that they do this and still have to
- 29:46Speaker 12: say it so.
- 29:46Speaker 11: Painful to see and to say, but still.
- 29:49Speaker 12: Have to say, although they did to our participants three
- 29:54Speaker 12: weeks ago with us.
- 29:55Speaker 11: And now with all the four hundred and twenty eight
- 29:58Speaker 11: that just arrived, there's.
- 30:00Speaker 12: More fraction of what they do to polictines at the
- 30:02Speaker 12: same prison of they teach dogs cultural palestines. They remove
- 30:09Speaker 12: my balls of people, they kill them and throw them
- 30:11Speaker 12: in a space. We need to stop the storists company.
- 30:15Speaker 12: They need to stop. Not only come I being veered
- 30:17Speaker 12: just a symptom of a sick, sick hate for ideology causionism.
- 30:23Speaker 13: We need to stop. We need to stop the multas.
- 30:26Speaker 13: We need to stop all those sterists. Really not a
- 30:31Speaker 13: py colonial state. They need to be stopped. They're taking
- 30:35Speaker 13: this to whatever is necessary.
- 30:38Speaker 11: All the.
- 30:41Speaker 3: Some very powerful accusations from Tiago I mean a lot
- 30:45Speaker 3: of rape of some of the flotilla activists. More and
- 30:51Speaker 3: more is coming out by the hour. Here are some
- 30:54Speaker 3: more testamonies posted on x earlier.
- 30:58Speaker 12: Broken ribsure took my glasses.
- 31:01Speaker 14: I can't see. I took my hearing gage.
- 31:03Speaker 11: You can't hear.
- 31:06Speaker 10: I can close my eyes and I can picture myself
- 31:08Speaker 10: sitting in these containers that they hold us in, and
- 31:12Speaker 10: with each boat that they intercept. As more people come in,
- 31:15Speaker 10: you hear them throwing these people across the containers.
- 31:18Speaker 11: We have been and every single one of us has.
- 31:21Speaker 15: Been bitten with electric souls.
- 31:23Speaker 12: We have all that money, We have.
- 31:27Speaker 15: Bruises, many people have broken lives, many people cannot there
- 31:33Speaker 15: and then after that they went us to prison and
- 31:38Speaker 15: it was the most ramatic experience.
- 31:40Speaker 7: As you've ever been.
- 31:41Speaker 12: There were at least fifteen phases of sexual assaults I
- 31:44Speaker 12: have been reported so far.
- 31:46Speaker 6: There are over thirty broken boats, broken classoles, broken.
- 31:49Speaker 3: Ribs, fifteen cases of sexual assault. We'll be interesting to
- 31:55Speaker 3: see what the British government have to say about that,
- 31:58Speaker 3: and we'll hear from EFT Cooper in a moment. But first,
- 32:01Speaker 3: Juliet Lemonte is a human rights activist and she was
- 32:04Speaker 3: also aboard the Flootella.
- 32:08Speaker 14: I was on one of the prison boats where one
- 32:10Speaker 14: hundred and eighty people were systematically bashed and beaten. We
- 32:13Speaker 14: had forty people who have broken ribs. We have twelve
- 32:18Speaker 14: sexual assaults. We have people who had tasted in the face,
- 32:22Speaker 14: people were syringed with unknown sedatives. We were yeah, we
- 32:28Speaker 14: we were tortured. I was put down, cable tired, they
- 32:32Speaker 14: put so much water under me for an hour that
- 32:34Speaker 14: I thought I was.
- 32:35Speaker 11: Going to drown.
- 32:37Speaker 14: I was sexually assaulted in this kind of torture chamber,
- 32:40Speaker 14: and five men were bashing me and smashing my face,
- 32:43Speaker 14: and then it just continued for the whole time. Whether
- 32:46Speaker 14: that was the prison boat or whether that was where
- 32:48Speaker 14: we were taken to Ashdod, it was a relentless and
- 32:51Speaker 14: very targeted and very planned campaign of violence so that
- 32:56Speaker 14: we wouldn't come back. But you know, they've broken our bones,
- 32:59Speaker 14: but they haven't broken our soul. And now that I've
- 33:01Speaker 14: met them, I know that they don't have a soul.
- 33:03Speaker 14: So we are much stronger than they are than pread Palistin.
- 33:09Speaker 3: All over Europe, Israeli ambassadors have been summoned by foreign
- 33:14Speaker 3: ministers and given dressing downs. Gideon Tsar, the Israeli Foreign Minister,
- 33:20Speaker 3: has disowned Ben Gevere, but whether or not he disowns
- 33:25Speaker 3: the treatment of the detainees is another matter.
- 33:30Speaker 4: For the Israelis.
- 33:31Speaker 3: This is a pr disaster more than it is a
- 33:35Speaker 3: human rights failure, and of course, were it not for
- 33:38Speaker 3: the fact that the flotilla embarquees are Australian, British, European, American, etc.
- 33:48Speaker 3: Were they ordinary Palestinians, then of course we wouldn't be
- 33:52Speaker 3: hearing about their systematic abuse, and indeed we don't because
- 33:56Speaker 3: there are thousands Palestinians suffering the same fate every day. Well,
- 34:01Speaker 3: we did get a statement from Labor Friends of Israel's
- 34:05Speaker 3: Cooper and this is what she had to say.
- 34:10Speaker 16: I mean, we see these totally disgraceful scenes and this
- 34:13Speaker 16: video shared by Israeli Cabinet minister Ben Gavier which shows
- 34:18Speaker 16: a total disrespect and violation of basic standards of human
- 34:24Speaker 16: dignity in the way that people were being treated. Completely appalled,
- 34:29Speaker 16: and we have Center summons to the Israeli embassy because
- 34:33Speaker 16: we need the urgent explanation as to how this could happen. Obviously,
- 34:37Speaker 16: Ben Givier is a cabinet minister who has been sanctioned
- 34:40Speaker 16: by the UK government as a result of previous behavior
- 34:45Speaker 16: and serious issues around the West Bank. But I think
- 34:48Speaker 16: this is extremely serious, the totally disgraceful scenes that we saw.
- 34:52Speaker 16: We have Center summons to the Israeli embassy and because
- 34:57Speaker 16: we need these urgent explanation.
- 35:03Speaker 3: All an urgent summons. I'm sure they're quaking in their
- 35:06Speaker 3: boots in Tel Aviv, my goodness. Of course, we never
- 35:10Speaker 3: see any meaningful sanctions other than those placed on individuals
- 35:14Speaker 3: like Ben Gavier if Cooper. They're wondering how on earth
- 35:17Speaker 3: this could happen when it is in fact systemic to
- 35:20Speaker 3: what Zionism is and the way the Israeli regime operates. Indeed,
- 35:29Speaker 3: it's lauded within Israel. In fact, a lot of other people,
- 35:34Speaker 3: including cabinet ministers, have wondered why there is all this outrage.
- 35:41Speaker 4: At Ben Gavier. Miry Regev.
- 35:45Speaker 3: Boasts of the mistreatment of the Gaza flotilla activists. There
- 35:50Speaker 3: she is, she sees no problem with it at all,
- 35:52Speaker 3: and in that respect, she's been backed up by numerous
- 35:56Speaker 3: Israeli propagandists in the United States and Israel online on
- 36:01Speaker 3: social media. They don't see what's wrong with this, because
- 36:04Speaker 3: of course, these people are trying to bring aid, baby formula, food, water,
- 36:10Speaker 3: and medicine to the starved, beleaguered population of Gaza. Are terrorists.
- 36:17Speaker 3: That's what terrorists do. They try and stop people starving
- 36:20Speaker 3: to death. And as if it couldn't get any worse,
- 36:28Speaker 3: we've also found out that Israel has been boasting of
- 36:33Speaker 3: its achievements in Southern Lebanon, and one of the units
- 36:38Speaker 3: returned with a home video of what's going on in
- 36:42Speaker 3: southern Lebanon, showing the detonation of whole villages and parts
- 36:48Speaker 3: of the south of that country, displayed on monitors as
- 36:54Speaker 3: ordinary people would show their holiday pictures. What do you
- 37:01Speaker 3: make of the flotilla and the way people were treated.
- 37:05Speaker 5: Well, what we can say is not very convinced by
- 37:09Speaker 5: yvat Cooper's of outrage there. It does seem a bit performative,
- 37:15Speaker 5: and I think you laid that out quite nicely, but
- 37:18Speaker 5: there is real concern coming on the continent here Georgia
- 37:20Speaker 5: and Maloney Italian Prime Minister. As you can see, she
- 37:24Speaker 5: had some choice words. Not happy at all with the
- 37:28Speaker 5: treatment of the people on the flotilla. Maloney described the
- 37:31Speaker 5: footage showing is really National Security Minister Ittmar ben Gevier
- 37:35Speaker 5: taunting the detainees as quote unacceptable here and she's quoted
- 37:40Speaker 5: as saying it is in admissible that these demonstrators, including
- 37:45Speaker 5: many Italian citizens, are subjected to this treatment that violates
- 37:49Speaker 5: human dignity. And this has prompted calls from not just
- 37:54Speaker 5: Italy here but also Ireland and Spain pushing for the
- 37:58Speaker 5: EU now to say Ben Gavie after the flotilla incident,
- 38:02Speaker 5: and this is more likely going to also end up
- 38:05Speaker 5: with an ICC criminal indictment to add to the list.
- 38:10Speaker 5: And I think bez Allows small Trich, the Finance Minister,
- 38:13Speaker 5: had recently been there's an indictment in the pipeline now
- 38:18Speaker 5: against him. So little by little they're circling the wagons
- 38:22Speaker 5: around Israel. Europe's a bit slow to the punch. I mean, hell,
- 38:26Speaker 5: thiswa wasn't in October twenty twenty three when this latest
- 38:31Speaker 5: raft of violence and genocide kicked off, and here we
- 38:33Speaker 5: are in twenty twenty six. They're just catching up in Brussels.
- 38:37Speaker 5: So we'll see.
- 38:38Speaker 2: Okay, we will see. Let's come back to the UK then,
- 38:41Speaker 2: and central bankers, regulators, tech executives. They gathered in London
- 38:46Speaker 2: on Tuesday and Wednesday this week for the omfif Digital
- 38:50Speaker 2: Money Summit twenty twenty six. That is the Official Monetary
- 38:54Speaker 2: and Financial Institutions Forum. By the way, they describe themselves
- 38:59Speaker 2: as an in pendent research group for central banking, economic
- 39:02Speaker 2: policy and public investment, providing a neutral platform for public
- 39:06Speaker 2: and private sector engagement worldwide their words. It is chaired
- 39:10Speaker 2: by Lord Norman Lamont, who most people remember is a
- 39:14Speaker 2: member of the House of Lords and former Chancellor of
- 39:16Speaker 2: the Exchequer. Now, at the summit there were around two
- 39:20Speaker 2: hundred senior figures from around across the financial world, and
- 39:24Speaker 2: the theme was the great convergence of public purpose and
- 39:28Speaker 2: private innovation in digital money. In other words, that means
- 39:32Speaker 2: working out who should build the next generation money, governments
- 39:35Speaker 2: or private companies or maybe both, and how those two
- 39:38Speaker 2: would fit together. Let's just have a very brief look
- 39:41Speaker 2: at the main types of digital money that are available
- 39:45Speaker 2: to US. CDBC CBDC sorry is probably the best known.
- 39:50Speaker 2: A central bank digital currency would be digital cash issued
- 39:54Speaker 2: directly by the central bank of any particular country, digital
- 39:58Speaker 2: equivalent of a bank O. That's what they say about it.
- 40:02Speaker 1: Anyway.
- 40:03Speaker 2: Then, of course we have the idea of stable coins.
- 40:06Speaker 2: These are digital tokens issued by private companies and they're
- 40:10Speaker 2: supposed to hold a steady value, usually by being pegged
- 40:14Speaker 2: to a national currency like the pond or the dollar.
- 40:17Speaker 2: And then we have tokenized deposits, which are similar to
- 40:20Speaker 2: stable coins but issued by regular banks. So the money
- 40:24Speaker 2: in your account, they say, we'll move around on newer,
- 40:28Speaker 2: faster computer systems while still being backed by the bank itself,
- 40:31Speaker 2: So what can go wrong? The general consensus seems to
- 40:34Speaker 2: be that private stable coins, at least as far as
- 40:37Speaker 2: this particular event was concerned, are now treated as a
- 40:41Speaker 2: serious part of the financial system rather than a curiosity
- 40:44Speaker 2: from the cryptocurrency world. Donald Trump, of course, has had
- 40:48Speaker 2: something to do with that, because he has basically said
- 40:51Speaker 2: that the FED should not be pursuing CBDC and should
- 40:54Speaker 2: be looking at stable coins instead. But the hard question
- 40:59Speaker 2: is whether anybody really understands the risks, And in fact,
- 41:04Speaker 2: the OMFI have their own commentary which was published just
- 41:08Speaker 2: before the event and is looking at what the International
- 41:11Speaker 2: Monetary Fund is saying about it. They're basically saying that
- 41:16Speaker 2: stable coin issues may not be able to prove that
- 41:18Speaker 2: they have enough so called real money to back the tokens,
- 41:22Speaker 2: and that the price is feeding into these systems could
- 41:24Speaker 2: be manipulated anyway, and that it's unclear which countries courts
- 41:28Speaker 2: would step in if something goes wrong across borders.
- 41:31Speaker 1: So lots and lots of questions they're patrick, but huge
- 41:36Speaker 1: bubble potential, Absolutely huge bubble potential. That's the risk.
- 41:40Speaker 2: But in the meantime, you know, enthusiasm for a digital
- 41:44Speaker 2: point digit Europe or a digital dollar is apparently coolling.
- 41:49Speaker 2: So one session, it's a bit unclear because there we're
- 41:52Speaker 2: a couple of different lists of the titles of the
- 41:56Speaker 2: various sessions and this, and in one of the lists
- 42:00Speaker 2: they had a session entitled do central Bankers no longer
- 42:03Speaker 2: trust retail CBDCs?
- 42:05Speaker 4: Now?
- 42:05Speaker 2: Whether that was what actually happened at the end of
- 42:08Speaker 2: the day, I'm not entirely certain, but anyway, the point is,
- 42:11Speaker 2: the sentiment seemed to be that there was some skepticism
- 42:13Speaker 2: about whether CBDCs perhaps have become so unpopular that maybe
- 42:19Speaker 2: they need to be looking at another way to pursue
- 42:21Speaker 2: the same kind of goal, and that seems to be
- 42:24Speaker 2: why the interest in stable coins is there.
- 42:28Speaker 5: The Bank of International Sentiments was backing CBDs now for
- 42:30Speaker 5: the last five years, I mean, that was the horse
- 42:33Speaker 5: they've been backing this whole time. So absolutely there's a
- 42:36Speaker 5: vault face on that. And what are we back to
- 42:38Speaker 5: square one again?
- 42:39Speaker 2: Who knows well, But if there has been a reversal
- 42:43Speaker 2: on it, that is absolutely a result of the pushback
- 42:46Speaker 2: by ordinary people. And so anyway, some people should perhaps
- 42:50Speaker 2: take some feeling of success over.
- 42:52Speaker 1: That programmable money. In other words, yes.
- 42:55Speaker 2: Now let's move on then to defense, and well, everybody
- 42:58Speaker 2: will be glad to know that the Ministry Defense has
- 43:00Speaker 2: tweeted this out that thirteen British businesses have been awarded
- 43:04Speaker 2: contracts of up to four million pounds to work with
- 43:07Speaker 2: the Ministry of Defense to boost what they describe as
- 43:09Speaker 2: rapid procurement and deliver cutting edge technology for the UK
- 43:13Speaker 2: armed forces. And what are we talking about? Quantum sensing,
- 43:17Speaker 2: autonomous systems, drones, these types of things, to secure communications, space, manufacturing,
- 43:23Speaker 2: synthetic training, all these kinds of topics. Now they are
- 43:27Speaker 2: saying that together these represent the breadth and depth of
- 43:30Speaker 2: British defense innovation. But basically, what are they talking about.
- 43:34Speaker 2: This is something that we've been commenting on for the
- 43:36Speaker 2: last couple of weeks, Patrick. They are talking about more
- 43:40Speaker 2: reliance on government funding. So they're encouraging more and more
- 43:44Speaker 2: small and medium sized businesses to engage directly with government
- 43:48Speaker 2: procurement schemes, which of course brings these companies into reliance
- 43:54Speaker 2: on money from the state rather than looking to build
- 43:58Speaker 2: their capital elsewhere. Makes the control of the state a
- 44:02Speaker 2: much more powerful thing.
- 44:04Speaker 5: This is very depressing just listening to this mic, because
- 44:06Speaker 5: everybody with a brain, how half a brain anyway, knows
- 44:10Speaker 5: exactly where this is heading. This is the total mobilization
- 44:13Speaker 5: of the economy and society and building it around not
- 44:18Speaker 5: a green solution as we were afraid of years ago,
- 44:20Speaker 5: but around a war solution or constant warfare, the total
- 44:25Speaker 5: of the whole of society approach that includes the entire economy.
- 44:29Speaker 5: Then it becomes the political economy. We can discuss more
- 44:33Speaker 5: about that, Mike, But that brings us to the big
- 44:37Speaker 5: question here, World War III. Where is it going to
- 44:41Speaker 5: kick off? And most likely one of the hot points
- 44:45Speaker 5: right now is, of course Europe and Russia. And here
- 44:48Speaker 5: is it very disturbing Among many disturbing developments we'll look
- 44:51Speaker 5: at here. And this is coming out of RT. Obviously,
- 44:55Speaker 5: this has been largely banned by the UK, this news outlet,
- 44:58Speaker 5: because the government doesn't want you to to know what's
- 45:01Speaker 5: happening that might affect your life. So we're going to
- 45:03Speaker 5: help you by telling you basically here. NATO country shoots
- 45:06Speaker 5: down alleged Ukrainian drone. It was a Ukrainian drone. It
- 45:10Speaker 5: was shot down by Estonia by a NATO jet this
- 45:15Speaker 5: is the first So we're looking at a potential change here,
- 45:19Speaker 5: a little bit of a shift. Over the past few weeks,
- 45:21Speaker 5: there have been a number of incidents related to Ukrainian
- 45:23Speaker 5: UAV drones targeting northwestern Russia, mainly energy facilities there, particularly
- 45:30Speaker 5: energy facilities in Leningrad region. Some of the aircraft eventually
- 45:33Speaker 5: crashed in Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania and Finland. So let's just
- 45:39Speaker 5: take a look at the geography of this here, and
- 45:42Speaker 5: so these are the Baltic states, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania.
- 45:46Speaker 5: This is the area that we're most concerned. Is this
- 45:48Speaker 5: triborder area here. Now the implication is if they're not
- 45:52Speaker 5: able to fly over Belarus that's the large green patch
- 45:56Speaker 5: just on the bottom there, that they are coming up
- 45:58Speaker 5: via Poland, Lithuania, over Vilnius, through Latvia and then into Russia. Now,
- 46:05Speaker 5: this particular one went into Estonian airspace here, So the
- 46:09Speaker 5: question is why was this done. Russia looks like it
- 46:12Speaker 5: intervened and the relations the dialogue has opened up between
- 46:17Speaker 5: Estonia and Russia on this issue, and Russia is really
- 46:20Speaker 5: kind of beginning to draw a red line here. We'll
- 46:23Speaker 5: show you how serious that red line is in a
- 46:26Speaker 5: moment here, but they are really playing with fire on
- 46:29Speaker 5: the NATO side by allowing this type these types of attacks.
- 46:33Speaker 5: We'll show you how bad these attacks have gotten this week.
- 46:35Speaker 5: But here's the Swedish Prime Minister Ulf kristians Son with
- 46:40Speaker 5: Mark Krute, the NATO Secretary General here waxing lyrical about
- 46:46Speaker 5: the wonders of drone attacks against Russia and how wonderful
- 46:51Speaker 5: this is going to be for Europe.
- 46:55Speaker 17: It's my firm belief that the Ukrainians are very I mean,
- 46:59Speaker 17: they certainly don't want their drones to end up on
- 47:05Speaker 17: friendly territory for obvious reasons. Sometimes it's a matter of jamming,
- 47:10Speaker 17: sometimes it's a matter of other disturbances, and obviously they
- 47:15Speaker 17: do not want them to happen because it could create damage,
- 47:19Speaker 17: it could create a.
- 47:20Speaker 1: Fear, of course.
- 47:22Speaker 17: But I think you should also realize that there is
- 47:24Speaker 17: a Russian willingness to give the impression that other countries
- 47:29Speaker 17: are kind of doing things that are not legitimate, and
- 47:32Speaker 17: that's why we're not We should really not be open
- 47:36Speaker 17: for the Russian narrative on this. But instead, of course,
- 47:38Speaker 17: help the Ukrainians as much as we can to direct
- 47:42Speaker 17: to help them direct their attacks in the right directions,
- 47:45Speaker 17: of course.
- 47:49Speaker 5: I mean the advocating that NATO needs to facilitate Ukrainian
- 47:53Speaker 5: drone attacks against Russia. We're asking for trouble here. But
- 47:58Speaker 5: they're very open and casual about You can see them
- 48:00Speaker 5: in their sort of khaki trousers and it's all very corporate.
- 48:04Speaker 5: So here is what Ukraine just did yesterday. We'll bring
- 48:07Speaker 5: this up on screen. Here, take a look at this.
- 48:10Speaker 5: This is a student dormitory in star Elsk College in Luhansk,
- 48:17Speaker 5: in Dumbas, so I believe some students have been killed.
- 48:21Speaker 5: This is a Ukrainian drone attack. So they're targeting schools
- 48:24Speaker 5: and universities, and this is a US policy. Basically, it's
- 48:27Speaker 5: what the US did in Iran, targeting schools, targeting universities,
- 48:32Speaker 5: and so now Ukraine has basically adopted this US policy
- 48:36Speaker 5: in the Israeli policy of targeting educational institutions and so forth.
- 48:42Speaker 5: So it's getting pretty nasty, to say the least. And
- 48:46Speaker 5: we don't know the exact toll and the casualties on this.
- 48:50Speaker 5: It's disturbing that things are heading in this direction. And
- 48:53Speaker 5: this is fully endorsed by every European country, by the UK.
- 48:57Speaker 5: John Heally's probably very excited to see this on the
- 49:01Speaker 5: college in Luhansk, as is Mark Route, as is Frederick
- 49:05Speaker 5: Mertz and the rest of them. And this is where
- 49:08Speaker 5: it's going to lead. However, will bring this up on
- 49:11Speaker 5: screen back to the forbidden website RT because we don't
- 49:14Speaker 5: want to know what the Russian government's saying or thinking
- 49:17Speaker 5: in terms of defense doctrines. But russia nuclear moves will
- 49:21Speaker 5: not go unanswered. Here. What are we talking about. We're
- 49:24Speaker 5: talking about a new doctrine, a new defense strategy by
- 49:28Speaker 5: Russia which is going to now include strikes on European soil.
- 49:34Speaker 5: If the source of the attacks are from European manufacturers
- 49:38Speaker 5: that are supplying components to Ukraine, which the Europe and
- 49:42Speaker 5: NATO are then facilitating and helping guide into Russia, Russia
- 49:47Speaker 5: is going to basically under international law, they have a
- 49:49Speaker 5: right to respond under the UN Charter. Okay, So this
- 49:53Speaker 5: is an act of war by Europe by all these
- 49:55Speaker 5: NATO members against Russia, hitting their infra structure, hitting civilian
- 50:01Speaker 5: targets also inside Russia. So this is a serious business.
- 50:06Speaker 5: This is a serious business. This is going to lead.
- 50:08Speaker 5: So you and Mike, you know they're saying Oh, Russia
- 50:11Speaker 5: is going to attack by twenty twenty seven. It's an inevitability.
- 50:15Speaker 5: You keep hearing this, We're preparing for this, right we go.
- 50:18Speaker 2: How are you also preparing the narrative for us?
- 50:20Speaker 5: How do they know? Because they're because they're doing everything
- 50:24Speaker 5: possible to bait Russia into retaliating, which Russia has a
- 50:28Speaker 5: right to do under international law, just as Britain would
- 50:31Speaker 5: have a right to do. If let's say France was
- 50:35Speaker 5: using Belgium to launch drone attacks against Britain, well, Britain
- 50:39Speaker 5: has a right to hit France and hit the source
- 50:42Speaker 5: of the threat. In other words, those drones are being
- 50:45Speaker 5: made in France. It's the exact same thing here. To
- 50:48Speaker 5: forget about the moral argument about Russia invading Ukraine in
- 50:52Speaker 5: twenty twenty two. That's a separate discussion, okay, But right
- 50:56Speaker 5: now we have absolute European countries doing absolutely everything to
- 51:01Speaker 5: push the situation to a major nuclear conflagration and a standoff.
- 51:08Speaker 2: Just in the last couple of seconds of the segment,
- 51:09Speaker 2: do you think because obviously if Russia does actually do that,
- 51:15Speaker 2: they're making the threat. If they actually do it, that's
- 51:17Speaker 2: going to be presented, this Russia attacking NATO Article five
- 51:22Speaker 2: will be invoked.
- 51:24Speaker 1: Does Russia.
- 51:24Speaker 2: Is Russia making this threat at this point because they
- 51:26Speaker 2: feel that the West is with the Iron Wharf example,
- 51:29Speaker 2: demonstrated that actually it does not have the capability to
- 51:33Speaker 2: pose a significant threat to Russia.
- 51:35Speaker 5: Well, you could look at it that way, but I
- 51:37Speaker 5: think Russia's not that. They're not that tricky. They're very straightforward,
- 51:42Speaker 5: they're very pragmatic. So they're now basically putting a red
- 51:45Speaker 5: line down and saying, look, we're warning you now, don't
- 51:48Speaker 5: don't continue doing this. If you do, this is what's
- 51:51Speaker 5: going to happen. And you know, everybody is so giddy
- 51:54Speaker 5: in the defense industry because they're all making money hand
- 51:57Speaker 5: over fist by this bluff. And it's a bluff against Russia,
- 52:01Speaker 5: because if you go to war with Russia, okay, it's
- 52:05Speaker 5: only going to end two ways. If it's a conventional exchange,
- 52:08Speaker 5: Russia could wipe out pretty much everything in Europe within
- 52:11Speaker 5: probably seventy two hours. All the manufacturing base, probably a
- 52:15Speaker 5: few military bases Romstein, Stuttgart and all the rest of
- 52:18Speaker 5: it in Germany gone. Okay, half the Bundesvir and the
- 52:22Speaker 5: Finnish military wiped out. Okay, it's not functional anymore, and
- 52:27Speaker 5: all the manufacturing base if it goes nuclear, well everyone's
- 52:31Speaker 5: a loser. Let's just put it that way. So why
- 52:33Speaker 5: are our leaders pushing towards this and not towards a
- 52:36Speaker 5: negotiated settlement? To me, a negotiate settlement it be much
- 52:40Speaker 5: better economically, be cheaper for us in terms of what
- 52:44Speaker 5: we're expected to foot in terms of the defense bill
- 52:47Speaker 5: and all the debt that's going to come with it
- 52:49Speaker 5: to finance that, and the extraordinary price of energy in Europe. Okay,
- 52:54Speaker 5: we're paying for all that we don't have to. Our
- 52:57Speaker 5: leaders have made that decision for us. That's the problem.
- 53:01Speaker 5: He time to start pushing back exactly.
- 53:03Speaker 2: Okay, let's change topics and now. One health is a
- 53:07Speaker 2: term that we haven't heard in a while. It's the
- 53:09Speaker 2: idea if you remember that human, animal, and environmental health
- 53:12Speaker 2: are all interdependent and so it brings together quite a
- 53:16Speaker 2: number of policy areas. Different policy areas the UK Health
- 53:20Speaker 2: Security Agency, the Department for the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs,
- 53:25Speaker 2: and the Animal and Plant Health Agency have today published
- 53:29Speaker 2: the first annual one Health Vector born Disease Surveillance Report.
- 53:34Speaker 2: That sounds good, doesn't it?
- 53:35Speaker 4: Now.
- 53:36Speaker 2: The report emphasizes the importance of a one health approach,
- 53:39Speaker 2: bringing together human, animal and vector data from twenty twenty
- 53:43Speaker 2: five to give a comprehensive picture of of the changing
- 53:46Speaker 2: risk of vector born diseases in England. Alongside this, the
- 53:51Speaker 2: agency has also updated its national contingency plans for invasive
- 53:56Speaker 2: mosquitoes in England and for West Nile varas so. Figures
- 54:01Speaker 2: published in the annual portraow that Lyme disease remains the
- 54:04Speaker 2: most common locally acquired vector born infection in England, with
- 54:08Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty eight laboratory confirmed acute cases reported
- 54:12Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five. But they say that while no
- 54:15Speaker 2: locally acquired mosquito born infections were reported in England, the
- 54:19Speaker 2: report highlights a growing risk from mosquito born viruses, particularly
- 54:23Speaker 2: West Nile virus as I mentioned and issued in virus.
- 54:27Speaker 2: This is apparently because temperatures in Southeast England are already
- 54:31Speaker 2: high enough for these mosquitoes to survive, and so they
- 54:34Speaker 2: say they aim to help local authorities and partners to
- 54:37Speaker 2: identify and carry out their role in vector management to
- 54:40Speaker 2: suppress invisive mosquito activity as far as possible. Despite their
- 54:44Speaker 2: known mosquitoes to suppress maybe they're suppressing the rest of
- 54:48Speaker 2: us at the time. They say that they've updated the
- 54:50Speaker 2: West Nile Virus plan and that they aim to minimize
- 54:54Speaker 2: the risk of West Nile virus and both animals and
- 54:57Speaker 2: humans in England, while setting out proposed actions if it's
- 55:01Speaker 2: detected in either and then just by coincidence. Yesterday, the MHRA,
- 55:06Speaker 2: the Medicine Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency, launched a landmark public consultation.
- 55:12Speaker 2: They describe it as landmark on a proposed new regulatory
- 55:16Speaker 2: framework which is going to spearhead the development of rare
- 55:18Speaker 2: disease treatment in the UK, and they say that this
- 55:22Speaker 2: sets a new model for how rare disease therapies for
- 55:25Speaker 2: individuals could be tested, licensed and monitored, and it intends
- 55:29Speaker 2: to make it quicker and less costly to safely develop
- 55:33Speaker 2: therapies for rare diseases which, despite there being no mosquitoes,
- 55:38Speaker 2: apparently affect infect three point five million people in the UK.
- 55:41Speaker 4: That's it.
- 55:42Speaker 5: We need to put all our resources into rare diseases
- 55:45Speaker 5: because there's so many people getting rare diseases right, but
- 55:48Speaker 5: a global warming and climate change could raise the prospects
- 55:53Speaker 5: of the risk of mosquito born viruses from West Nile.
- 55:57Speaker 5: What do you think if we can just get people
- 55:59Speaker 5: to get more into the global warming, then they'll believe
- 56:02Speaker 5: that we're going to get invaded by Africans killer African mosquitos.
- 56:06Speaker 5: Then we will need one health to come to the rescue. Absolutely,
- 56:09Speaker 5: I've already figured it all out.
- 56:10Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for that, Patrick. That sounds it up
- 56:13Speaker 2: quite nicely, Basil. Let's come back to you then to
- 56:15Speaker 2: finish off with some another in case you missed it.
- 56:20Speaker 4: Thanks Mike.
- 56:21Speaker 3: Yes, a few stories over the last week that may
- 56:24Speaker 3: have escaped your attention. This first one originates, of course
- 56:30Speaker 3: from the Sunday Times the twenty richest people in the UK,
- 56:34Speaker 3: and it's got the Hinduja brothers at the top, followed
- 56:36Speaker 3: by the followed by the Reuben brothers who own Newcastle
- 56:40Speaker 3: and Linfield racecourses, amongst others. Jim Ratcliffe up there. Billions
- 56:44Speaker 3: and billions of pounds you can find this online, and
- 56:48Speaker 3: a combined wealth of hundreds and hundreds of millions of pounds,
- 56:52Speaker 3: and one could very easily tax tax them to the
- 56:55Speaker 3: extent of one hundred billion between.
- 56:57Speaker 4: Them or more and.
- 56:59Speaker 3: It would not alter their lifestyles one jot. I mean
- 57:03Speaker 3: you can only sleep in one bed, but would make
- 57:05Speaker 3: a huge difference to the to the exchequer. But no,
- 57:10Speaker 3: it seems wealth taxes are completely verboten. I wonder whether
- 57:14Speaker 3: Andy Burden will be a little bit keener on them.
- 57:17Speaker 3: We do, of course have the biggest disparity of wealth
- 57:20Speaker 3: in this country well since records began. It's worse than
- 57:24Speaker 3: it was in Victorian or Georgian times. And of course
- 57:27Speaker 3: also you never find the Rothschild on that list or
- 57:31Speaker 3: some the other people whose wealth.
- 57:33Speaker 4: Simply cannot be calculated. Next up.
- 57:36Speaker 3: This is heartening, I suppose in the in the short term.
- 57:40Speaker 3: Chris Williamson, former Labor MP for Darby, is this petition
- 57:46Speaker 3: was initially rejected, but now it seems that MPs will
- 57:49Speaker 3: debate calls for a public inquiry into pro Israel influence
- 57:53Speaker 3: on politics and democracy. The MPs owned by Israel. Chris
- 57:58Speaker 3: points out, we'll oppose it about how many will be
- 58:01Speaker 3: brave enough to back a public inquiry And I personally
- 58:06Speaker 3: think that one.
- 58:07Speaker 4: Is very much needed.
- 58:09Speaker 3: But whether we get it or not, or whether the
- 58:11Speaker 3: very idea of it is anti Semitic and will of
- 58:14Speaker 3: course provoke a backlash from the usual suspects. Well, that
- 58:17Speaker 3: remains to be seen fascinating story. Nevertheless. Next up, Yes,
- 58:25Speaker 3: the ruling now must be implemented that single sex toilets
- 58:30Speaker 3: excludegender people.
- 58:32Speaker 4: Can you remember a.
- 58:33Speaker 3: Few years ago when this was the single most important
- 58:36Speaker 3: story on the whole planet, wasn't it invasion of bathrooms? Well,
- 58:43Speaker 3: I'm pleased to say that single sex toilets will come back,
- 58:48Speaker 3: but with the proviso that businesses and service providers now have.
- 58:52Speaker 4: To offer practical alternatives.
- 58:55Speaker 3: So are we going to have three toilets anywhere you go,
- 58:57Speaker 3: whether or not that includes every Dervis station and restaurant
- 59:01Speaker 3: now has to have not just men and women, but
- 59:04Speaker 3: the third unit for people who don't regard themselves as
- 59:09Speaker 3: either or whatever. Seems like a tremendous expense if they're
- 59:15Speaker 3: required to have a third unit, So we'll see how
- 59:20Speaker 3: that plays out in practice. Next up, Thomas Tuchel, the
- 59:26Speaker 3: German manager of the England football team, who announces his squad, says,
- 59:30Speaker 3: my job is not necessarily to select the twenty six
- 59:33Speaker 3: most talented players. Well, England have a terrible record in
- 59:37Speaker 3: the World Cup, and one of of course, since nineteen
- 59:40Speaker 3: sixty six, which is now fully sixty years ago, isn't it.
- 59:46Speaker 4: And well he's German and he would say that, wouldn't he.
- 59:52Speaker 3: The Football Association have an uncanny habit of always picking
- 59:57Speaker 3: the wrong person for that job. Harry Redknapp should have
- 1:00:01Speaker 3: got it, Brian Cluff should have got it, but no,
- 1:00:05Speaker 3: they always go for the duds like Gareth Southgate and
- 1:00:09Speaker 3: Roy Hodgson and now Thomas Tutchel. If you want to
- 1:00:12Speaker 3: have a bet on England winning the World Cup, then get.
- 1:00:16Speaker 4: In touch with me because I'll give you twenty to one.
- 1:00:19Speaker 4: Off we go, next slide and here we go.
- 1:00:25Speaker 3: This is a interesting development.
- 1:00:29Speaker 4: UK lawyers for Israel.
- 1:00:33Speaker 3: Have had a complaint against them registered with the relevant
- 1:00:39Speaker 3: legal authorities because they are appending the names of Stephen
- 1:00:44Speaker 3: Hockman case, Lord Anthony Graviner k C and Lord David
- 1:00:50Speaker 3: Panic Case two correspondents sent out to organizations institutions could
- 1:00:59Speaker 3: be anybody really that dares to show any meaningful solidarity
- 1:01:04Speaker 3: with the people of Palestine. So people get letters signed
- 1:01:10Speaker 3: by very very important sounding people as you heard there,
- 1:01:14Speaker 3: to peers and a third person all cases, and inevitably,
- 1:01:20Speaker 3: in many cases they panic and decide to go along
- 1:01:24Speaker 3: with whatever it is UK Lawyers for Israel want, which
- 1:01:27Speaker 3: inevitably means cancelation of the event, withdrawing the invitation to
- 1:01:33Speaker 3: the speaker, and this, as is pointed out in the complaint,
- 1:01:40Speaker 3: has a chilling effect on perfectly lawful freedom of speech
- 1:01:45Speaker 3: and representations of solidarity. One notable case of a few
- 1:01:48Speaker 3: years ago concerned a hospital. This is Jewish Voice for
- 1:01:53Speaker 3: Liberation formerly Jewish Voice for Labor, but all these Jewish
- 1:01:58Speaker 3: people were kicked out of the Labor Party for anti Semitism.
- 1:02:01Speaker 4: Makes sense of that if you will.
- 1:02:03Speaker 3: And this relates to the hospital that censored the artwork
- 1:02:10Speaker 3: of Guards and Children after Jonathan Turner, the chief executive
- 1:02:15Speaker 3: of UK Lawyers for Israel, said that there had been
- 1:02:19Speaker 3: a flood of complaints, apparently from Jewish patients distressed at
- 1:02:22Speaker 3: having to face a wall of anti Israel propaganda when
- 1:02:26Speaker 3: they go to hospital. Well, one or two of the
- 1:02:28Speaker 3: plates featured Palestinian flags, but there was no propaganda on them.
- 1:02:32Speaker 3: A freedom of information quest discovered that there had in
- 1:02:36Speaker 3: fact been no complaints at.
- 1:02:39Speaker 4: All, not one.
- 1:02:41Speaker 3: Interesting Nevertheless, the exhibition was taking down because a uk
- 1:02:48Speaker 3: LFI demanded it so and Finally, this week, surprise surprise,
- 1:02:56Speaker 3: Israel has become the world's most disliked country, according to
- 1:03:00Speaker 3: a global survey, behind even North Korea and Afghanistan. It's
- 1:03:05Speaker 3: a long way underwater by several points. Italy amongst the
- 1:03:11Speaker 3: countries that are most favored, along with Poland and Iceland.
- 1:03:17Speaker 3: But Israel bottom of the pole in likability.
- 1:03:21Speaker 4: I wonder why, gentlemen.
- 1:03:23Speaker 3: It must be because the whole world is anti Submitty.
- 1:03:26Speaker 4: What else could it possibly be?
- 1:03:29Speaker 5: Bottom of the pole in terms of likability, but probably
- 1:03:32Speaker 5: top of the league tables of the new Axis of evil.
- 1:03:35Speaker 5: They have to go right to the top, don't they.
- 1:03:37Speaker 5: That's we're They're going to be leading North Korea unseating
- 1:03:40Speaker 5: Kim Jong un and all of the quote regimes. That's
- 1:03:45Speaker 5: Israel's new home and dates according to this pole. Hey,
- 1:03:48Speaker 5: that's not me saying that. I'm an objective commentator.
- 1:03:53Speaker 4: That note.
- 1:03:54Speaker 2: We got to leave it there for today. Thank you Basil,
- 1:03:57Speaker 2: thank you Patrick, Thanks to everybody who's been watching. If
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- 1:04:12Speaker 2: weekend and join us again Monday, one pm as usual.
- 1:04:15Speaker 2: See then, Bye bye,