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Talks to David Maskell about his choice of Paradise Towers (2/4) · A Hamster With a Blunt Penknife - a Doctor Who Commentary podcast

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  Welcome back to a hamster with a blunt.
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  Penknife the Doctor Who commentary podcast.
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  I'm still here. And I'm with Joe, I have
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  alcohol. Joe has tea or coffee.
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  I also have chocolate. And you have, what do you have
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  with you? I'm going to cookie and a halfie
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  in now, brown Apple, brown brown, apple and we are going to
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  be talking about episode 2 of paradise, but before we do that
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  before we do that, we're going to have a go.
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  That I like to call. Guess the scores music.
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  This point I love this is going with my last time.
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  Yeah, I know I can't remember what who we did last time.
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  Was it? The McCoy juror?
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  I think we did last time anyway so we're going to judge it up a
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  bit. You sure she'd up.
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  And we're going to be doing the peach Davis narrow.
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  All stop. Okay, let's go now.
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  I've got six cards. Yeah, you're going to be getting
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  the Fear Factor for these six cards.
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  Are you ready? Fear Factor.
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  Okay? So here Factor.
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  All right, can I just say BBC? I'm available.
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  If ever Bradley wolf leaves blankety-blank, I'm available.
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  That's not the one game show. I'd love to present so game,
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  super Match Game, super Match Game the sticker to do, did it?
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  I love he goes, you got, you're gonna win your blankety blank,
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  checkbook and pain, but don't worry.
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  There's a skip outside of your the Fourier that on the way out.
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  It's all right. Okay, there's arm here.
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  Okay. So got number one and we've got
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  the Merkur from what Warriors of the deep here.
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  Fact. I was his out of 80.
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  Yeah. Out of 180.
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  Oh no, you're wrong. There 25.
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  Are you talking about an execution or in concept?
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  Both not him a five. I think you're great.
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  Yeah, yeah. Tony.
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  You know, it's not great. So number two, It's my favorite
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  monster from the mud from the data here, the malice.
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  Oh God, you love her. Don't you do?
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  Okay, so I'm going to say the malleus.
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  Probably going to go quite high if you like him very much.
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  So I'm gonna say, maybe 90 all your 10 hours. 80.
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  Okay. Well that's why, that's why I
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  think he is pretty scary. He is scary.
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  You're fantastic. And die with me.
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  Now because all those teeth. Oh yeah sure.
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  I'm that guy was I actually I'll tell you that off mic.
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  Okay. Oh, I'm excited.
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  That number three is. Capturing rack from
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  Enlightenment. Oh my God.
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  I mean her bosoms coming out of that shirt.
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  Well on their own. I'm gonna play.
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  You're probably gonna like a over the top 60. 45.
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  Okay. Yeah.
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  That's quite Fair. Okay.
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  Number and before we have this character character characters
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  to get to 10 with performance, she gets a 95.
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  What you to go for Pity. I've just composed of
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  particularly. Now, we're at the top of our for
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  you, on the behind the scenes, as you like, I've been having a
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  lot. It's not like this in the
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  movies, but it takes your time, he's going.
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  Oh darling, darling. Don't worry.
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  We're gonna make is fawning over her.
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  Oh not. Hi 15:30.
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  It's only got the wrong side of a d is true.
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  She got gum Scott Gunn. Okay.
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  Number five, Polly James. Of course, it's Polly James.
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  There's a performance, I say, in terms of character out, maybe
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  like ten, correct, yes, I got one, right, what's the score?
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  What's the score? That was surprised.
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  And I was surprised how well I'll tell you that off, Mike,
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  Napoli toy and last but by no means least.
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  Chloe Ashcroft. God hundred know the favor?
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  Hello. Isn't it 50 10/10?
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  What did you find scary about Warren her death.
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  If any of you say listen as if any of you ever seen me a
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  convention just literally came over to me and said can you do
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  Chloe Asheville Steph and I will very happily do it.
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  Wherever anyone is going to need to ask You'll be doing that in
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  every to anyway. I will be a try especially if
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  you're in Katie Manning's Q, because it's going to take
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  awhile. Wow.
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  Oh, Jenny. Thomas on of course, but I don't
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  want you to quote her from Doctor Who I want you to quit
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  from Emmerdale. Now, go on.
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  What does she say country what she said?
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  I never dare repeat. I'm glad we can be friends
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  again. Was that?
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  I'm not one of those yappy types that one of those, your big data
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  types. She's going on explosion and
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  falls down. Those stairs.
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  I can't. Wait, I'm hoping we can still do
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  the revelation of the dollars commentary because I cannot
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  wait. It's amazing.
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  But can you post that clip please?
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  When we do this at, when they said.
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  Yeah, remind me and I will. Well Jenny Thomas, I'm doing a
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  double, a flip over a banister. I sleep longer the tablet.
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  Okay, We do that every time you come up with a different dog.
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  No. Yeah, of course, can amazing.
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  Let's say you should be some of those drugs are conventions.
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  You know, you might get done because he said my God.
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  Yeah, that's true. All right.
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  Paradise has a perfect to add ice towers.
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  Here we come. Donna countdown.
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  You dumped out with the girls? There are no rules do.
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  So ready. I'm ready. 4 3 2 1.
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  Let's go. What's really basic rate that we
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  enjoyed episode 1 immensely? Yeah, very much.
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  Can you feel the Mucky fingertips of Andrew cartmel,
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  starting to appear all over the series with this story?
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  Oh yeah, definitely. I feel like feels a bit like
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  time in the Ronnie was one that he was kind of left to.
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  Yeah. It's like that had already been
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  done and completed whereas this one, it feels like he just gets
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  his hands on it. He's kind of leaning in That's
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  sort of the realism that you likes.
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  Isn't it Council? Yeah very much so there's still
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  an element of heightened just to it.
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  Yeah he would kind of start to phase out as the season goes on.
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  So and then I'm sorry, I did, it's all the time.
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  I come on this book Hospital, got people that I've met from
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  this particular story. I think I was very lucky to have
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  met Rich prize a few times and he was an absolutely lovely,
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  man, just like it's just, it was just surprised, you know.
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  He was just Richard buys. It was such a lovely man, but he
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  is the only one girl that she I've got for my grandma little
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  fun. Feedback because she never
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  understood the convention thing. And I remember going on cant to
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  Torchic veteran with your brother's ashes, how could you
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  get me his autograph? And he was at our house just a
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  delightful man. He loved dogs.
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  It's a told me an interesting story that in an episode of New
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  Tricks. He murders dogs.
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  And it's the only job he ever did.
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  That is why often talked to him afterwards.
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  And in other shows that he'd done, he'd take Killers like in
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  Midsomer. Murders, eat.
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  I think about five people, you know, he's pretty evil but
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  according to Yeah, nice. Tell you a fact that Richard
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  briers, that you absolutely probably already know, therefore
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  it at him and Jaclyn Hill, used to hang out all the time.
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  Yeah. And his wife was in Dalek
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  invasion of Earth. He's life, isn't dying.
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  Original birth. She made Jaclyn Hill there.
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  They were the best of friends their entire life and Jaclyn
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  Hill Alvin rack off her, and Richard, briers lived as
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  laborers, and they have been That I mean the chief caretaker
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  and Barbara been a dinner party. Yeah, I find out.
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  He told this wonderful story Rich prize.
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  It was not long after he'd been in Torchwood.
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  I think I've told you this but I was headed to it's on the focus,
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  but he after he did is episode of Torchwood.
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  He was walking down the street and they're all these gangs of
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  use following him. And he was getting quite scared.
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  He went down a sort of side street to go home and they
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  followed him and he thought, oh well, I'm going to be, you know,
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  I'm going to be robbed of money, kind of thing.
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  They don't tell you also know, he's surrounded them and they
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  and he went, there went my, were you in Torchwood last night and
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  he went. Yeah, I wasn't hurt our.
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  Can you sign our cigarette packets for us?
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  And he did. Fans.
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  Yeah, that's yeah, David that is a much scarier type of fan, you
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  know. That's, that's true.
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  That's true. And I only violent buggers of
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  swear a lot and that's just the dot who found.
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  Now know, I really like this Love/Hate thing that goes on
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  between her and pecks, you know, I think is nicely played as well
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  as nicely written. I haven't heard that too much
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  recently. Drew, I think Bonnie Langford
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  and how cook have quite a nice chemistry going on.
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  Definitely I'll definitely. I am also, mother once met
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  Richard Rises wife, after after Richard Pryor said, sadly passed
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  away and we were queuing up to get her autograph and she was
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  she was very chatty but you know she she was no lady and fair
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  enough. Hmm.
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  And the fan in front of me when I was Instead of hello, could
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  you sign my stuff? Please don't.
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  Could you get Richard Price to sign this for me please to which
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  she said I would love to but unfortunately I can't because my
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  husband died. Two years ago.
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  Oh you know, I know Doctor Who fans have this Blank Spot when
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  it comes to being an appropriate, that's on another
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  level. Yeah.
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  And then I had to be done next and was like right.
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  How what do I do? Do I Yeah, it was, it was not
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  great because you just spoke to who didn't have a clue that your
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  husband? Yeah.
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  Can I ask you a question about the instant or music?
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  This do I like it that we're going to ask not what?
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  Ye yes. And because I have a bit of an
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  unusual King about Kevin McHale Oak.
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  And that is you do you do actually, I do really like his
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  music and I think it suits a lot of this season.
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  I think is when we head into I'm 26 and things are getting a bit
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  darker that his kind of jaunty. Upbeat disco music is a little
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  bit jarring. I think he does very well in
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  this first season, he's got a sort of high-energy it's quite
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  fun. Quite silly.
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  What do you think? Very identifiable, I will say,
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  especially especially for this episode this story.
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  So I know episode. Well, got a lizard episode.
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  Oh God, I think. Yeah, I think you can definitely
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  tell what stories are from. I think at times the careful
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  kind of move it gets too noticeable.
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  And I think the the sign of a good bit of instant music is
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  when you don't recognize it, if that makes it, you don't hear
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  it. I think I was most jarring and
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  and noticeable in silver Nemesis I think.
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  Yeah, yeah, definitely. Some of these like the music for
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  the cleaners. That did it didn't have.
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  You heard like it smells original school?
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  No, I actually need to watch that on the blitz on the
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  Blu-ray, isn't it? They put the blue round.
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  Very dark. It gives the whole story a very
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  sinister. I feel why did they go for it?
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  James? He didn't like it, he may be
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  what the wording, I think. Maybe he thought it made the
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  whole thing a little bit uncomfortable to watch because
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  you've got these kind of heightened performances but and
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  the lights are down in the music scary and it's all a bit
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  jarring. I quite like that, though.
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  I quite like it when I made to feel a bit awkward and
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  uncomfortable watching something, mmm-hmm I want.
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  I know I quite like it. I do.
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  Like I think one thing that is said I was disappointed by was
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  when this came out on DVD they did absolutely nothing to it.
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  I think it was what it was. One of the worst DVD that they
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  brought out in terms of the cover was awful and just the
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  bonus B with just, this is got one of the worst commentaries
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  I've ever heard. Who's in the helmet?
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  Ever, Judy Cornwall. Steven Wyatt and did males.
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  I can't tell the difference between do to calm.
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  Was digging why they both got very high pitched voices.
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  Yeah, I mean sorry, what guy I'm pulling a face, is he?
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  Yeah, yes, of course, he is. No, I've got Adam that's a
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  surprise there because he sounds super camp, like, hmm.
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  You know what judical more. There's no more satanic my
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  neighbors. I'm just just got dumped his
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  disposal. It's just, it's just a shame
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  that didn't make more of an effort with it really?
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  Like it would have been actually forgot.
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  Richard Price. Done a commentary for this.
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  Have you watched the filming location?
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  I found I could only watch that for a big.
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  I'll find it basically just like Terrance.
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  Dicks says the being an on a film is stage is the most boring
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  thing ever and he ain't wrong. Occasionally a few Little Gems
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  like Kate Amara and Tom of the Ronnie underneath of Raleigh
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  waiting to go. You know, you're too late
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  doctor. I think the I think that's the
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  great thing about the Blu-rays and stuff is they've able to put
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  more on. But I mean I just feel like they
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  didn't bother with the DVD. This it's like yeah we'll get
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  Judy Cornwall who's that. She's all right in this, but
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  it's spits odd that they got her of all people.
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  Really he sees all this season. This is probably, would you say
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  this is the most popular story this season?
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  I would say maybe 10 years ago, probably not But I would say
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  this and Delta, I would say, I would say Delta probably more
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  actually doctor. I feel like has had a lot of
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  love more recently. Although the behind the sofa lot
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  when that came but I think dealt, you know what I said
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  about you got the writer, the director putting different
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  directions in Deltona Banner, then the script and the
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  direction are absolutely going in the same.
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  It's like they've had a tone meeting.
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  They're going, if these Whimsical kind of musical theme,
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  aren't they? Yeah and one thing is sort of
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  gone. Currently, if you don't like
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  that then you ain't gonna like that.
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  Uh but if you do and I do it's the most is glorious.
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  Sunshine, Doctor Who to me? Hmm.
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  I think also. And this is I'm going to be
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  opening up a bit here, so to speak.
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  You can always open up for me, David.
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  Yeah, you try to Pandora. He won't leave me alone.
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  Silly thoughts, age God, I, you know, we'll have it when we're
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  struggling. You in life, you know, we have
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  those down moments and I think I can honestly say that any of
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  them are Core Series, but especially Delphine bannermen of
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  one of those stories that really helped.
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  And I know that sounds ridiculous.
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  I know that sounds a bit like as I'm saying, in part one, like
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  there are not. I can watch any McCoy stirring
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  feel better, that makes sense. And I think that's because I so
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  identify with it growing up. And there are a lot of other
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  stories that I think over my God, never watching that again.
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  But I think the McCoy or for me is so special that that's why
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  these stories, okay? They're not great.
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  But I just love them so much because they've helped me and I
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  know that sounds really dramatic, but especially Delta.
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  And I mean, last year, I lost my job.
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  And the first thing I do, most of us watched Ultra fundamental
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  a lot better, and that's definitely one of my comfy
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  blanket stories. And I think that's also partly
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  why I love the McCoy era so much.
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  And I will always defend it is because I can put on time of the
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  Ronnie. I can put on great show in the
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  galaxy and I'm just You know, makes me feel a lot better.
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  What I tell people. So that's a wonderful Mission.
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  I think we all have those stories.
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  So when we are in a bad place, we can revisit and will just
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  automatically, it's like, I don't know it having a hog or
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  putting a blanket around your shoulders, it's a comfort and
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  like people pointed laugh at me when I say I freaking love the
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  chase planet of the Daleks and time in the Ronnie because those
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  are my free Comfort Doctor, Who stories.
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  And I can watch them again. I've watched Anna dies back five
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  times this year, already. That's the joy of this show us.
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  That's the power of this show. Hmm, is that?
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  I think that's what that's what's so important?
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  Especially as to say it's, you know, any story in this era, the
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  McCoy or just means a lot to me. And I and, you know, like
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  thinking of it, you know, you got stories like the dominators
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  for pasture and you go sorryy praise because I know he loves
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  that but it's a bit kind of And others like at time of
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  recording, I've just done to watch who the mutants and I can
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  honestly, say the mutant sort of the hardest things I've ever had
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  to sit through but every single McCoy, so I can just sit and
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  watch and love every single one and I don't get of any other
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  doctor with a local area as well.
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  It's like, you know, there's a certain subset of fandom look
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  think of this as like the fag end of the classic series, you
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  know, and a bit of an embarrassment.
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  And you know, if I'm sorry, I'm not forget really calm, I'm not
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  laughing at you, so but I think I think the McCoy era.
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  There's a shot of creativity of imagination of energy at the end
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  of the classic series which has kind of been running on empty
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  throughout the mid 80s and and in those last three years it
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  just captured a tone again. It there was this some
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  excitement about it. It started Gathering some
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  momentum and it's super sad though.
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  It got to season 22nd and they chopped it there because they
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  were doing great work. It feels like dots.
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  Going back on form to me, you know, you take those final
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  stories and, you know, look at Casa Fabric and Ghostlight.
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  I mean, there's a fantastic stories and it's, you know, with
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  a lot of other shows, they go out on a limp, but you can
• 19:32
  honestly say that season 26 went out on a massive High.
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  And that's the thing as saying earlier, about the box sets, you
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  know, all these box sets that are coming out, it's great.
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  That those stories are all not just 24, but all of them are
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  being re-evaluated and we loved basically this is a bit silly.
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  Sorry, again, think of yourself as a four-year-old child
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  watching. Those cleaners coming towards
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  you all the smoke billowing out. So lately.
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  Yeah, appendages and things. Oh, I love these sequences in
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  the lift, I'm claustrophobic. Even though it's been overplayed
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  in like, oh my God, what if the lights go out and the lights go
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  out? That is my worst nightmare.
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  Thank you. Yeah, that's gone dark
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  free-falling. One thing this is and this is
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  not related to Paradise has whatsoever but I just remembered
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  that I need to say this on podcast.
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  So you know we did not knock. Yes, since we recorded knock
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  knock, I've been see, David suchet.
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  Live on stage. Oh, you've been to see David
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  suchet Story City. He was doing a one-man show and
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  halfway through the first first, or second act common, which one
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  it was, doesn't matter. The guy who's interviewing him
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  would do not quickfire questions.
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  And one of the questions I asked him was, is there a job you've
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  ever accepted without even reading the script?
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  And He suggests those 11 one of those.
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  And he said, earlier what was that?
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  And he said, well said in 2016. I was offered an episode of
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  Doctor Who. And I said to my agent, She
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  said, oh, even if a doctor and I said, yes, I'll do it.
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  And says, you haven't read the script and then he stood up and
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  he said, I said to my agent. No, it's because I wanted and he
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  stood up and went to the front of the stage for his hands up in
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  the air when in Doctor Who and he went 52 years I've been in
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  actually goes and after it is like this is like 47 years.
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  I was an actor and I finally got to be in one.
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  This is just like how like how great is that?
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  And that's David suchet. Do you know who David suchet
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  went to school with are acting? Cool.
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  With to Colin eye makeup? Yeah, it would have thought
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  David suchet. We're looking at kind of bacon
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  with green eyes. I know.
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  I know I just had to get that in there because it's just such a
• 21:44
  lovely little story. Like I got to be in Doctor Who,
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  you know, I pointed at you and the audience, when you You're My
• 21:51
  Greatest Fan, I heard you on that podcast.
• 21:54
  Yeah. Oh God, imagine imagine Who's
• 22:00
  the doctor here? He's and this is one of the
• 22:02
  things I love about his characterization and story is
• 22:05
  that he's putting together all the parts.
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  This is big mystery as to what's going on and he's the one that
• 22:12
  assembles all the elements into a narrative of like, okay.
• 22:15
  So Craig, non-creative Paradise, Towers.
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  He wiped out everybody. The young people went off to
• 22:20
  war. Everything else fell to Pieces.
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  He's now in the basement trapped.
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  He's and he's basically He wants our body is that why?
• 22:30
  It's Nick and all the different bodies in the thing?
• 22:31
  Those. Yeah, I think he's trying to
• 22:33
  trying to find the right one crack.
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  No. It's it's remarkably good.
• 22:39
  Characterization of the doctor because he's always thinking,
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  he's always the juicing. He's always putting elements
• 22:44
  together. Yeah.
• 22:45
  What is is working it out? Is they which sometimes doesn't
• 22:47
  happen in episodes. It's just the doctor walks in
• 22:50
  and he knows what's exactly what's going on.
• 22:52
  Whereas, it does feel like in this story, he's actually
• 22:54
  working out. What's what's happening?
• 22:56
  And you see that You know, I could murder a Fizz Aid right
• 23:00
  now. I can murder a box.
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  It's all. I've got one right here, lovely.
• 23:08
  I'm also eating chocolate again, so I apologize.
• 23:10
  These are the one of those Kang's marks Tristan's wife.
• 23:13
  One drinking right now. Yeah always.
• 23:16
  She's got hot. She did well.
• 23:18
  Not anymore. The divorced awkward.
• 23:20
  But Mass trixin was punching for a while.
• 23:24
  I don't know. Oh no.
• 23:27
  So this scene apparently Line, for tells the story that when
• 23:30
  they were doing this scene, the crew were laughing so much.
• 23:34
  Richard briers had to be kept back and told that he's taking
• 23:36
  the piss. I'll J&T now called.
• 23:39
  Yeah. And apparently, it was in this
• 23:41
  scene where he's going, all right, my love, slow a, or other
• 23:44
  part of the crew were laughing so much that they just said, you
• 23:47
  know. Well, the thing is, is it's
• 23:49
  really because in season 17, which J and T was the production
• 23:52
  manager on there was a lot? It's wasn't their kind of campy
• 23:55
  performance. And it's it, He said, you know,
• 23:59
  we're going to stop this silliness.
• 24:00
  We're going to make it sensible again.
• 24:02
  They are they saying bolvar? You have the Eric's award era
• 24:05
  now, it's time to creep back in again, isn't it?
• 24:07
  It's also as a default setting. You can't quite get away from
• 24:11
  it. And also, you know, it's There's
• 24:17
  no other show where you can do this is there and there's no
• 24:21
  other show that's why they love doing it.
• 24:23
  They love doing it because their kids love it and then they love
• 24:25
  doing it because you know, they are not doing Shakespeare, I'm
• 24:30
  not mad. I think in latter years of my
• 24:34
  life. I'm in this problem.
• 24:35
  I'm just beginning the second half of my life.
• 24:38
  Now, every Senator don't be silly dear, I've just I've
• 24:42
  gotten over the fact that doctor who he is.
• 24:44
  Ridiculous and camp. And now I've embraced it and
• 24:47
  love it. So these performances are what
• 24:50
  I'm there for now. Lady Astra.
• 24:53
  So Sarah of dip loss. You know?
• 24:55
  That's all performances. I just love them.
• 24:58
  Body Langford, ground crowden? Yeah.
• 25:08
  I will say of all the Kang she's the best actress.
• 25:12
  Catherine Cusack. That isn't it?
• 25:13
  Yeah she's a fairly decent career which is part of the
• 25:18
  Cusack family. So you know, they're quite well.
• 25:22
  Ah well no. The Cusack family as in Mike
• 25:26
  Cyril Cusack can name cuter yeah she's putting that Eddie CAT
• 25:32
  scan. Cat.
• 25:34
  I love this Bolivar. Is it true?
• 25:36
  Is it true? Very dramatic, very dramatic and
• 25:40
  Way by Powers you called name, I love it but then he can do that
• 25:47
  stuff doesn't he gets? He does he redeem himself he
• 25:51
  makes good to Mel and that suits so they build this relationship.
• 25:55
  So in that moment it's not everybody else that he's earning
• 25:58
  you know that moment for it. Huh?
• 26:02
  I'll definitely definitely. I am spraying some of that
• 26:06
  dialogue. I give you my word.
• 26:08
  I mean you no harm going through the writing.
• 26:12
  Now we'll say I don't The perform, the biggest Advocates
• 26:15
  about the rotten. What were you going to say?
• 26:18
  Did I said, you know that story about Bonnie tells about Richard
• 26:21
  brides and Clive Morrison. So, apparently, they're in the
• 26:26
  rehearsal room and there's a big table that they will sat on when
• 26:30
  they weren't rehearsing, and Richard briers would come over
• 26:33
  to climb a mountain and goes antiques.
• 26:38
  Antiques, they go off and do a scene and then come back and go
• 26:42
  whenever you post office. It was taken by the newsagents.
• 26:48
  What do you think now? I think a post office and then
• 26:50
  go and he's doing it a few times.
• 26:52
  And Bonnie Langford said, what what, what can I ask, what is
• 26:54
  this, what is doing? And they basically said that
• 26:57
  they were talking about what jobs they would have to get
• 27:00
  after Paradise tiles with broadcast because they can't be
• 27:02
  actors anymore. They thought that was it.
• 27:06
  They thought there's no point carrying on their careers and
• 27:09
  that is what I'm going to do. They were going to be opening
• 27:11
  like, antique, shops and stuff, that's glow.
• 27:14
  I thought, You're going to say because, you know, a lot of
• 27:15
  access to get work between jobs, don't lie.
• 27:18
  Hmm. Oh my God, Richard Is she is
• 27:25
  we'd almost given up hope you liked it and it was just
• 27:30
  slightly older than me. If you like, what is Brenda
• 27:32
  Bruce name for? Do you know her at all door?
• 27:37
  Okay. Wish you know the things I do.
• 27:40
  That's why I'm asking you. She was in Paradise Towers.
• 27:43
  I know that she was the highlight of her career.
• 27:47
  Look, who's got my God? Look at this.
• 27:52
  Since Canada got with McCoy's face.
• 27:56
  It's just a picture that's clearly just been placed on so
• 28:00
  great he hasn't got his normal question, mark.
• 28:03
  Probably. Is he?
• 28:04
  No this is Delta. I think the first one he's got
• 28:06
  in I think okay the question marks at know you're wearing a
• 28:10
  quest mark pull over so I really shouldn't have a go at these.
• 28:14
  Is it a bit much? Yes, but when you consider that
• 28:22
  he was obsessed with putting question, mark, pullovers and
• 28:24
  salary and, you know, Colin Baker's outfit.
• 28:27
  But this point I'm like, fuck it.
• 28:28
  I don't know what I mean. It's like at this point you kind
• 28:32
  of think, oh, let's just go the whole hog.
• 28:35
  Yeah. Alma got the advance elections
• 28:38
  coming up. We've got a quote it.
• 28:40
  I must say one thing about this story, not episode 2, but some
• 28:44
  of the cliff hangers are great. There's a few bits of them,
• 28:48
  like, you would, you really entered the shop there?
• 28:50
  You could have, maybe we can show free, you would have
• 28:53
  thought it would end with the thing coming down over.
• 28:55
  Richard, briers and him screaming.
• 28:57
  Yeah, he's on that claw around. Sylvester McCoy is neck.
• 29:01
  Now, here we go. Only about seven different
• 29:03
  places. This is really bizarre way of
• 29:05
  toast. Grumpy isn't it?
• 29:07
  Yeah. On the on the pine soap and
• 29:11
  scenes when they're filming the see if she has the screw ring
• 29:14
  and a sharp cutting. This was rigorous hope the
• 29:16
  budgies. Okay?
• 29:20
  Now we can pass me that that happen could without this
• 29:23
  vicious that are this little waves.
• 29:27
  In fact, we'd like you to stay but in fact, we don't matter,
• 29:30
  you ever be working at all. Hey, we got a we don't see this
• 29:39
  is a ratchet for human valdir. We mean everybody a favor.
• 29:50
  This is a this is a good Cliffhanger rific not to
• 29:53
  struggle too much. It's only is this rig looks
• 29:57
  really awkward though. Look how black sir You tell me
• 30:01
  another TV show, that would dare to put off a cliff hanger like
• 30:04
  that. Oh, it's glorious.
• 30:10
  I read is, how can anyone hate this story?
• 30:13
  Yeah. Like, music, again, love it.
• 30:20
  Does it give you the tingles? It does, it does.
• 30:24
  Well, listen, we shall be back for episode thorough.
• 30:28
  So part, three, Three part three but you can call it episode.
• 30:32
  I don't mind. I'm not one of these DieHard
• 30:34
  fans had someone on earlier was that will be back for part 3 for
• 30:41
  more hijinks and camporee. Do you think Mel is going to get
• 30:44
  out of it? She's dead.