Latest / For All Nerds Show / Seven Reasons Why Pokemon Trainers Are Pure Evil?!? (Tony Weaver Jr Talks Pokemon, Lanterns & More)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: It's all Pokemon related. No one's killing like real people.
- 0:03Speaker 1: They're like stealing Pokemon.
- 0:05Speaker 2: But there's crime. There's crime. There's Team Rocket. There's Officer Jenny's.
- 0:09Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's Pokemon related crime.
- 0:11Speaker 2: Pokemon crime.
- 0:24Speaker 3: And welcome in the next to a new episode of
- 0:26Speaker 3: For All Nerds. As usual, you know we bring you
- 0:28Speaker 3: the goods when it comes to the most incredible creatives
- 0:31Speaker 3: in the fandom space. And of course, we have the
- 0:34Speaker 3: incomparable Tony Weaver Jr., an award-winning educator, philanthropist, motivational speaker, author,
- 0:40Speaker 3: and voice actor who uses his platform to challenge the
- 0:43Speaker 3: status quo and shift the world towards passionate creativity and acceptance.
- 0:47Speaker 2: Tony Weaver Jr., welcome to the spaceship.
- 0:50Speaker 1: Hello, hello.
- 0:51Speaker 2: How are you doing today? Thank you so much for
- 0:53Speaker 2: coming through.
- 0:54Speaker 1: I'm having a great time. There's a lot of travel
- 0:58Speaker 1: going on, but I'm feeling good. I'm feeling good.
- 1:00Speaker 2: All right, cool, cool.
- 1:04Speaker 3: Actually, I was just talking to you about how we
- 1:05Speaker 3: just saw you recently at New York Comic Con, how
- 1:08Speaker 3: we prefer New York Comic Con.
- 1:09Speaker 2: Comic Con is so fun because it's about the people, right?
- 1:13Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
- 1:14Speaker 3: What I love the most about you is about you
- 1:16Speaker 3: are about the people.
- 1:17Speaker 2: Everything you do is about changing the world.
- 1:20Speaker 1: That is the goal.
- 1:20Speaker 2: That is the goal, right?
- 1:22Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:23Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't mean that in a hyperbolic sense.
- 1:27Speaker 3: I think in the way that you approach when you're
- 1:29Speaker 3: doing your content, when you are speaking to people, we
- 1:33Speaker 3: mentioned you're a motivational speaker, that you make it known
- 1:35Speaker 3: that everyone can be themselves. And I think that's really paramount.
- 1:39Speaker 3: It's something that we hold very dear here at For
- 1:41Speaker 3: All Nerds. And it's something that you had said recently
- 1:44Speaker 3: towards that. You were like, being normal is a scam.
- 1:47Speaker 1: It is. Being normal is a scam. It is one
- 1:51Speaker 1: of the most comprehensive... wide-reaching scams that we have been
- 1:56Speaker 1: taught to accept. I actually think that a significant amount
- 2:01Speaker 1: of the status quo requires an overwhelming quorum of people
- 2:07Speaker 1: falling for that scam. So that normalcy is what I
- 2:10Speaker 1: fight against. There is no normal. The only norms that
- 2:14Speaker 1: we create are the ones that we choose. We're allowed
- 2:16Speaker 1: to create what our norms are. Normalcy is not something
- 2:19Speaker 1: that can be put on us. It's something that we
- 2:21Speaker 1: get to pick and negotiate and establish. And I want
- 2:26Speaker 1: people to wake up to that power.
- 2:29Speaker 2: Okay.
- 2:30Speaker 3: And that is interesting that you say that because there
- 2:33Speaker 3: is power in understanding that I guess there's no default, right?
- 2:37Speaker 3: Like we are given like a false understanding of what
- 2:40Speaker 3: the default is, right? You know, straight white male typically, right?
- 2:44Speaker 3: But when you look at it, when you look at
- 2:45Speaker 3: the world, like that is the least of it, right?
- 2:48Speaker 3: Like that's actually the minority.
- 2:49Speaker 2: And I think people don't realize that, but the not
- 2:52Speaker 2: normal is the majority. What do you think about that?
- 2:55Speaker 1: Well, I think that ultimately acceptance is something that humans
- 3:00Speaker 1: are hardwired to yearn for. but kind of in this
- 3:04Speaker 1: rat race, hamster wheel type of society that we live in.
- 3:08Speaker 1: What we are told is that you will gain acceptance
- 3:11Speaker 1: at the expense of personal sacrifice. You sacrifice who you are.
- 3:15Speaker 1: You sacrifice the way that you would like to present.
- 3:18Speaker 1: You sacrifice what you believe. You sacrifice how you feel
- 3:21Speaker 1: in order to become normal and therefore gain acceptance. So
- 3:27Speaker 1: you end up as a part of this kind of
- 3:28Speaker 1: homogenous group Meanwhile, everybody else in the group is mourning
- 3:33Speaker 1: what they sacrificed to be a part of the group.
- 3:35Speaker 1: But nobody talks about it because we all think that
- 3:37Speaker 1: we're the only ones that had to sacrifice something to
- 3:39Speaker 1: get here. I think there's a way to kind of
- 3:40Speaker 1: put that on its head and say, no, the way
- 3:44Speaker 1: that you find acceptance is by embracing the things that
- 3:47Speaker 1: make you different. There's something that all of us bring
- 3:49Speaker 1: to the table and we need all of those things.
- 3:52Speaker 1: We don't need everybody to be uniform. We don't need
- 3:54Speaker 1: everybody to be 100 percent the same. everybody has a
- 3:58Speaker 1: different piece of the puzzle that they hold and we'll
- 4:01Speaker 1: never get the full picture. Everybody doesn't show up with
- 4:03Speaker 1: their piece.
- 4:06Speaker 3: I want to add to that, maybe showing up at
- 4:07Speaker 3: your full self, right? Or learning who you are and
- 4:09Speaker 3: allowing that to be.
- 4:11Speaker 1: Yeah. It's, I mean, it's a, it's a journey. I
- 4:13Speaker 1: think it's easier to be normal than it is to
- 4:15Speaker 1: be who you actually are. Cause for normalcy, there is a,
- 4:19Speaker 1: there's a structure. There's an archetype. There's a generally accepted
- 4:23Speaker 1: right or wrong. You think about like, I think about
- 4:28Speaker 1: stuff from the 90s and the in the early 2000s
- 4:30Speaker 1: that kind of saturizes high school culture. You think of
- 4:34Speaker 1: like heathers, you think of mean girls and the specific
- 4:39Speaker 1: archetypes that kids get split in. It's like, oh, those
- 4:42Speaker 1: archetypes have rules. It's very easy for me to pick
- 4:44Speaker 1: and choose which one I want to be because I
- 4:46Speaker 1: know exactly what I need to become in order to
- 4:48Speaker 1: fit in that box. Whereas being yourself is a much
- 4:51Speaker 1: more ethereal thing. the boundaries aren't as clear. And sometimes
- 4:59Speaker 1: you feel like you're right in the center and you
- 5:01Speaker 1: have an understanding and who you are as a person
- 5:04Speaker 1: can change. I think about like in 2018, 2019, 2020,
- 5:10Speaker 1: if you were to bump into me, my clothes were
- 5:13Speaker 1: very tight. I was like, I would like, my clothes
- 5:17Speaker 1: were like very form fitting in part because where I
- 5:21Speaker 1: was at the time, is that I felt like it
- 5:24Speaker 1: was extraordinarily necessary for me to present as masculine as possible.
- 5:31Speaker 1: And that's how I felt at the time. It felt
- 5:33Speaker 1: right at the time. It's like, I'm working out five,
- 5:36Speaker 1: six days a week. I'm running three miles a day.
- 5:39Speaker 1: I'm doing all this boxing. When people look at me,
- 5:42Speaker 1: I need them to know that I'm strong. And that
- 5:45Speaker 1: was like something that was super important for me. So
- 5:47Speaker 1: even when the clothes were uncomfortable, It was like, yeah,
- 5:50Speaker 1: but look at how it wraps around my muscles. Like
- 5:52Speaker 1: you can tell that I work out when you see me.
- 5:54Speaker 1: That's how I felt at that point in time. You
- 5:57Speaker 1: look at me today, all of my clothes are like
- 5:59Speaker 1: really loose. I don't really care about whether you can
- 6:04Speaker 1: see my muscle definition or not because the masculinity isn't
- 6:08Speaker 1: necessarily what I'm trying to, like it's not what I'm
- 6:11Speaker 1: prioritizing right now. Like Tony back then prioritized that. Tony
- 6:15Speaker 1: today is like, I want to be comfortable, bro. I,
- 6:18Speaker 1: I just want to like, uh, I, I, I want
- 6:21Speaker 1: to feel like, like a, like a, a, a roaming
- 6:25Speaker 1: wise man in the desert, the wind blows and the
- 6:29Speaker 1: pleats and folds on my clothes, billow in the wind. Um,
- 6:33Speaker 1: I just want to be a lot more chill and relax,
- 6:36Speaker 1: but both of those people were me 2018. Tony is
- 6:39Speaker 1: Tony 2026. Tony is Tony. Um, and it's, uh, it's
- 6:45Speaker 1: a journey as you kind of like shift and grow
- 6:48Speaker 1: and move and change. But it's a journey that I
- 6:50Speaker 1: think is like worth taking. It's a journey worth going on.
- 6:54Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 6:55Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 6:55Speaker 5: Often those journeys are not solo, right? Like you get
- 6:58Speaker 5: to that place with yourself. Like the idea of acceptance
- 7:01Speaker 5: changes once you kind of find the community that accepts
- 7:04Speaker 5: you as you are and you're allowed to like unfurl
- 7:07Speaker 5: that part of you. Could you speak to like how
- 7:09Speaker 5: community has been part of your journey and like how
- 7:12Speaker 5: does that suit and change how you feel about yourself
- 7:15Speaker 5: and perception itself?
- 7:17Speaker 1: Well, I think it's interesting. I definitely got a lot
- 7:20Speaker 1: of new friends. I meet a lot of new people.
- 7:23Speaker 1: I incorporate people into my community, but I think like
- 7:25Speaker 1: my base, my core group, like the people that you
- 7:28Speaker 1: call when the chips are down, they've been rolling with
- 7:31Speaker 1: me for a really long time. My inner circle has
- 7:36Speaker 1: not necessarily changed, but as we've matured, and kind of
- 7:41Speaker 1: learned more about ourselves, learned more about the world. I
- 7:45Speaker 1: like to think that we positively influence each other. I
- 7:49Speaker 1: think the biggest change in my community is that I
- 7:53Speaker 1: have a friend named James who is older than me.
- 7:57Speaker 1: So James is like one of my best friends, but
- 8:00Speaker 1: in many ways he treats me like a grumpy uncle.
- 8:04Speaker 1: That's kind of what our relationship was like. So I
- 8:08Speaker 1: think a lot of people can attest as you move
- 8:10Speaker 1: through your 20s and you start hanging out with older
- 8:12Speaker 1: people where there's a little bit of an age gap,
- 8:14Speaker 1: you care about fewer things because there's a person next
- 8:17Speaker 1: to you that's like, this literally doesn't matter. Why do we, like,
- 8:21Speaker 1: why are we dedicating time to this? And even now,
- 8:25Speaker 1: some of the young nerds that have had the fortune
- 8:27Speaker 1: or misfortune, depending on what day you catch them, to
- 8:29Speaker 1: be pulled under my wing, when I hang out with them, like,
- 8:32Speaker 1: I have some protégés that are in their early 20s
- 8:35Speaker 1: and they'll come to me with paragraphs and paragraphs and
- 8:37Speaker 1: paragraphs and my response will be like, why does this matter?
- 8:42Speaker 1: Like this, like this specific thing that you just like
- 8:44Speaker 1: poured your soul out to me for is like, we're
- 8:46Speaker 1: in an emotional place. I get it. But like, why
- 8:48Speaker 1: does this matter? I'm actually struggling to understand the significance
- 8:53Speaker 1: of this. As I think like, as you get in
- 8:56Speaker 1: community with people, a different walks of life, you learn
- 8:58Speaker 1: to let go. If that makes sense. 100%.
- 9:03Speaker 3: I mean, and this is everything you're saying now is
- 9:05Speaker 3: really indicative also of what you speak about in your book, Weirdo. Like,
- 9:08Speaker 3: I think that you talk about, you know, coming into
- 9:11Speaker 3: your power and finding your power. That's a very powerful
- 9:13Speaker 3: tool that you've created and that you've been able to
- 9:16Speaker 3: utilize as you go along the country. You've been traveling
- 9:18Speaker 3: a lot, talking to different people, trying to help them
- 9:20Speaker 3: find their voice.
- 9:21Speaker 2: You know, when you released that book, like, how did
- 9:23Speaker 2: you feel? Like, were you like, this is going to
- 9:25Speaker 2: be amazing? Or you were like, I am I'm scared
- 9:28Speaker 2: as hell. Like, how did you feel?
- 9:29Speaker 1: So I think there are a variety of things to
- 9:32Speaker 1: give context. I think weirdo, the work that I'm doing
- 9:36Speaker 1: with Nerds for Literacy and even the social media content
- 9:39Speaker 1: that I do is really positive on the surface. But
- 9:42Speaker 1: underneath that, it is rooted in a belief that I
- 9:45Speaker 1: personally will not be enough for whatever change I want
- 9:49Speaker 1: to see in the world. I look at the world.
- 9:51Speaker 1: I say things need to move. Things need to shift.
- 9:53Speaker 1: I look in the mirror at myself and I go, bro,
- 9:56Speaker 1: it won't be you. It's not going to be you.
- 9:58Speaker 1: You like. all this stuff that you want to change
- 10:02Speaker 1: all these ways that you think the world can be better.
- 10:04Speaker 1: It won't be you. You are fallible. You are one dude.
- 10:10Speaker 1: It's not going to be you flipping a switch. There's
- 10:12Speaker 1: no hero's journey of you like climbing to the top
- 10:15Speaker 1: of Mount Olympus and like, and like doing something. And
- 10:19Speaker 1: then all of a sudden the world just gets better.
- 10:21Speaker 1: The only way that this happens is through the coordinated
- 10:24Speaker 1: efforts of lots of people, people that are going to
- 10:27Speaker 1: have solutions and pieces of the puzzle that you don't have.
- 10:30Speaker 1: So in everything that I do, the goal is it
- 10:33Speaker 1: won't be me, but I can help empower the person
- 10:38Speaker 1: that it will be. So when I wrote Weirdo, that
- 10:41Speaker 1: was the goal. That was the call, the kind of,
- 10:45Speaker 1: thing that i was putting out into the space and
- 10:47Speaker 1: putting out into the world was uh dear change maker
- 10:51Speaker 1: wherever you are your journey is going to be difficult
- 10:56Speaker 1: at some point and i need you to be equipped
- 10:58Speaker 1: for it when those difficulties happen this book is the
- 11:01Speaker 1: best sword that i can give you these tools are
- 11:05Speaker 1: the best knowledge that i can give you um and
- 11:07Speaker 1: that's kind of that's what the uh the the point
- 11:13Speaker 1: of view for the book was so when it's time
- 11:16Speaker 1: for that to come out there's a weight to it
- 11:18Speaker 1: right number one i'm scared because i know how the
- 11:21Speaker 1: publishing industry treats black authors so there's a fear right
- 11:26Speaker 1: for black authors and for their stories for them for
- 11:28Speaker 1: them to kind of receive mainstream support and appeal uh
- 11:33Speaker 1: you kind of have to appease the powers that be
- 11:36Speaker 1: There was a book that I won't name written by
- 11:38Speaker 1: a non-black author. And before that book came out, it
- 11:42Speaker 1: was this author's debut. I looked at the entire trajectory
- 11:45Speaker 1: of that book. I said, month one, they sold this much.
- 11:48Speaker 1: Month two, they sold this much. Month three, they sold
- 11:51Speaker 1: this much. And then after month three, they got put
- 11:54Speaker 1: in the Scholastic Book Fair and then Target added them
- 11:57Speaker 1: on the shelves in their stores and their sales shot up.
- 12:00Speaker 1: And they became a New York Times bestseller. And then
- 12:02Speaker 1: this happened. And then this happened. And then this happened.
- 12:04Speaker 1: And I said, these are the numbers that I'll use
- 12:06Speaker 1: as a benchmark. So imagine my surprise when we come
- 12:10Speaker 1: out month one outselling that person by at least two,
- 12:13Speaker 1: three X. And we're not a New York Times bestseller.
- 12:19Speaker 2: And interesting how that works.
- 12:20Speaker 1: Scholastic don't call. And Target, who wasn't being boycotted at
- 12:26Speaker 1: the time, I think my publisher went back to their
- 12:28Speaker 1: buyers three times. And they were like, yeah, no, we're
- 12:31Speaker 1: not interested.
- 12:33Speaker 2: Wow.
- 12:35Speaker 1: And it wasn't about vanity. It was just that these
- 12:40Speaker 1: are the kind of vain metrics that the publishing industry
- 12:43Speaker 1: uses to determine whose books get the privilege to be
- 12:46Speaker 1: in front of kids. And I think that entire time,
- 12:51Speaker 1: I couldn't even appreciate the fact that the book was
- 12:53Speaker 1: out and that the book was done because I'm like,
- 12:55Speaker 1: writing the book is one thing. Producing the book is
- 12:57Speaker 1: one thing. Selling the book. It's an entirely different thing.
- 13:00Speaker 1: And there's so much that's outside of my control. And
- 13:04Speaker 1: that's kind of where my mindset was. That's what I
- 13:06Speaker 1: was thinking about.
- 13:09Speaker 3: And in that, like, besides what you do personally, just
- 13:12Speaker 3: online on your channels, like now you have this book,
- 13:15Speaker 3: you have all this stuff going and you are becoming
- 13:18Speaker 3: a highly visible person. I know you had, you had
- 13:20Speaker 3: said in an interview, you were like, you were surprised
- 13:22Speaker 3: people knew your name. And I'm like, at this point,
- 13:24Speaker 3: how are you surprised? But also it's kind.
- 13:27Speaker 2: Of like, how do you deal with that now that,
- 13:29Speaker 2: and I don't know if that's, you know, antithesis to
- 13:32Speaker 2: how you feel as a person.
- 13:34Speaker 3: Like, do you like being visible and out there?
- 13:35Speaker 2: Do you prefer kind of being chill?
- 13:39Speaker 1: I got visible at the right time. I think if
- 13:44Speaker 1: I had gotten visible before I sorted my own personal
- 13:47Speaker 1: stuff out, I would not be able to handle the
- 13:50Speaker 1: spotlight very well. There's a joke that I tell that
- 13:54Speaker 1: like inside of me, there is a sad, bullied 14
- 13:59Speaker 1: year old that just wants to be loved. And I
- 14:02Speaker 1: think if you let that guy pilot the ship, if
- 14:06Speaker 1: you give that guy the wheel when millions of people
- 14:09Speaker 1: are watching, you're going to end up in some nonsense
- 14:11Speaker 1: like really fast. So I'm glad that I got to
- 14:15Speaker 1: a point where I could heal that kid before the
- 14:21Speaker 1: responsibility of like a large platform presented itself. So now
- 14:27Speaker 1: I think... I see visibility as a means to an end.
- 14:32Speaker 1: The bottom line is there are some things that people
- 14:34Speaker 1: just don't care about unless you got a number attached
- 14:39Speaker 1: to your name. So for me, any platform that I
- 14:42Speaker 1: build or any community that I put together is never
- 14:46Speaker 1: for the sake of vanity. It's never for the sake
- 14:48Speaker 1: of me being seen. It's more that in order to
- 14:51Speaker 1: be heard in the world that we're in today, one
- 14:54Speaker 1: must be seen first. I'm still surprised that people know
- 14:58Speaker 1: who I am. but I'm grateful that they do because
- 15:02Speaker 1: visibility lends itself to opportunities. And I'm confident enough in
- 15:06Speaker 1: myself that I'll use those opportunities for something good. You
- 15:10Speaker 1: won't catch me selling crypto or, or like gambling platforms
- 15:17Speaker 1: or trying to put negative messages into the hearts and
- 15:22Speaker 1: minds of kids. So I think, The visibility still surprises me,
- 15:28Speaker 1: but I'm confident that I'll do the right thing with it.
- 15:32Speaker 1: And I'm also like, if I don't do the right
- 15:34Speaker 1: thing with it, I think I've built a community both
- 15:37Speaker 1: in my personal life and in my online life that
- 15:40Speaker 1: are like, hey, bro, not a good look. Hey, I
- 15:43Speaker 1: don't this thing come off the way that you thought
- 15:45Speaker 1: it did. And I think that'll be that'll be like good.
- 15:50Speaker 1: Like that's for me.
- 15:52Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
- 15:53Speaker 3: You did mention that 14-year-old, you know, the scared 14-year-old,
- 15:56Speaker 3: the person that you were and maybe continuously are working
- 16:00Speaker 3: to heal. And I know that anime has been one of.
- 16:03Speaker 2: Those healing factors for you.
- 16:05Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
- 16:06Speaker 3: Like, was there a specific anime or characters that really
- 16:09Speaker 3: spoke to you or what really pulled you out? Because
- 16:11Speaker 3: you've been through a lot, Tony. You've been through a
- 16:13Speaker 3: lot personally and a lot of challenges. So I would
- 16:15Speaker 3: love to know.
- 16:16Speaker 1: Well, I think it's actually really interesting. Yeah. There is
- 16:19Speaker 1: an anime called Eureka 7. Yep. came out in the
- 16:23Speaker 1: early two thousands. Um, and that show like means a
- 16:27Speaker 1: lot to me. That's still, that's still kind of like my,
- 16:30Speaker 1: my comfort show. I learned so much from that show,
- 16:33Speaker 1: but what's interesting now is that as a voice actor,
- 16:37Speaker 1: it's like Renton Thurston is played by Johnny Young Bosch.
- 16:39Speaker 1: I see Johnny Young Bosch in places now. Um, we
- 16:43Speaker 1: haven't worked on a show together, but like I see
- 16:45Speaker 1: Johnny Young Bosch in places now it's like, Oh, hello. Um,
- 16:49Speaker 1: Stephanie Shea is the voice of Ereka, uh, And I
- 16:52Speaker 1: met Stephanie Shea a couple of weeks ago and that
- 16:56Speaker 1: was like huge. It's like, Oh, you're a, you're a person.
- 16:58Speaker 1: Like you're a real person. I mean, like I knew
- 17:00Speaker 1: that cause, cause I voiced that characters too, but like,
- 17:03Speaker 1: it's so weird to think that the people that were
- 17:06Speaker 1: like your lifelines could one day be your, your coworkers.
- 17:10Speaker 1: When I walked into the booth for the first anime
- 17:13Speaker 1: that I ever booked snowball or the dove was produced
- 17:17Speaker 1: by bang zoom and mommy Okada of the, the, co-founder
- 17:23Speaker 1: of bang zoom head of the organization. Mommy was the
- 17:27Speaker 1: dub director for a wreck of seven. So the same,
- 17:31Speaker 1: the same dub director that put together that show that
- 17:35Speaker 1: like changed my life, her, my voice and was like, Oh,
- 17:39Speaker 1: let's get them in the mix. And also my director
- 17:43Speaker 1: for that first show played the character moon doggy in
- 17:47Speaker 1: a wreck of seven. So it's like, wow, life is circular.
- 17:51Speaker 1: There are some very interesting kind of bookmark moments.
- 17:56Speaker 2: I was going to say, do you believe in Providence
- 17:58Speaker 2: at that point?
- 17:59Speaker 1: Yeah, there's certainly something going on. There's certainly something happening. Yeah.
- 18:03Speaker 5: Yeah, it sounds like part of your soul knew that
- 18:07Speaker 5: not only was it speaking to you whenever you were
- 18:09Speaker 5: watching the anime, but it was like the people who
- 18:12Speaker 5: were putting that all together for you were there to
- 18:15Speaker 5: be there for you when you were ready. It was like,
- 18:18Speaker 5: when you're ready, we'll be here for you. When you're
- 18:20Speaker 5: ready to be part of the journey and work on
- 18:22Speaker 5: your heel, we'll be here for you. When you're ready
- 18:24Speaker 5: to be on the next step, we see it for you.
- 18:26Speaker 5: We're ready for you to be here with us. That's
- 18:28Speaker 5: what it sounds like. It kind of sounds like that's
- 18:31Speaker 5: also kind of the... way that you're approaching how you
- 18:35Speaker 5: like are writing and like how you're being thoughtful to
- 18:38Speaker 5: reaching kids and other readers, what led you to be
- 18:42Speaker 5: a reader and what do you hope comes from the,
- 18:47Speaker 5: like your greatest wish for Nerds for Literacy?
- 18:49Speaker 1: Well, my mom was really strict. It was like, you
- 18:52Speaker 1: get a, you, you get a strict PhD educated black
- 18:56Speaker 1: woman as your mom. Please understand the books are not optional.
- 19:01Speaker 2: Mandatory.
- 19:02Speaker 1: Yeah. The books will appear. I think that for nerds,
- 19:07Speaker 1: for literacy, it's inspired in some ways. It's going to
- 19:12Speaker 1: be a really roundabout thing, but I promise it'll make sense.
- 19:15Speaker 1: A fun fact about me is that the first performing
- 19:19Speaker 1: arts training that I had was at the Tupac Shakur
- 19:21Speaker 1: Center for the Arts. His family members were teachers at
- 19:25Speaker 1: the center. His sister, Satua, who we call Aunt Set,
- 19:30Speaker 1: was my first poetry teacher there. And Tupac has a
- 19:34Speaker 1: quote where he says, I'm not saying that I am
- 19:38Speaker 1: going to change the world, but I do think I
- 19:42Speaker 1: will influence the person that will. When we were in
- 19:45Speaker 1: that program, it was called Pox Kids. There was like
- 19:48Speaker 1: a statue of Tupac at the center. And you hear
- 19:52Speaker 1: that quote and you think like, oh, he's talking about me. Oh,
- 19:56Speaker 1: it's going to be me. Oh, it's going to be me.
- 19:58Speaker 1: But Nerds for Literacy is my way of kind of
- 20:02Speaker 1: carrying that baton and that torch forward. Because Tupac was like,
- 20:06Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm going to be the one to
- 20:07Speaker 1: change the world, but I will inspire the person that will.
- 20:10Speaker 1: And he passes that torch to me via a performing
- 20:13Speaker 1: arts center that he had in his will that he
- 20:15Speaker 1: wanted to be built before he passed. He passes that
- 20:18Speaker 1: torch to me and I hold it and I look
- 20:21Speaker 1: at it and I go. It won't be me either,
- 20:25Speaker 1: but we will inspire the person that it will be.
- 20:30Speaker 1: And Nerds for Literacy, what we want to build is.
- 20:34Speaker 1: Just like a national literacy network of nerdy teachers and
- 20:38Speaker 1: librarians getting resources into the hands of kids. I think nerddom,
- 20:42Speaker 1: nerdy materials, nerdy stories, fantasy, adventure, anime, magic, sci-fi, technology.
- 20:50Speaker 1: These are the stories that I think can defeat the
- 20:54Speaker 1: youth literacy crisis. I think the way that we think
- 20:57Speaker 1: about reading and how we socialize kids around reading just
- 21:00Speaker 1: fundamentally has to change. And Nerds for Literacy, my goal
- 21:04Speaker 1: is to do that. I think about Dolly Parton and
- 21:09Speaker 1: the Dolly Parton Imagination Library and what she was able
- 21:13Speaker 1: to build, this kind of comprehensive tool for kids ages
- 21:16Speaker 1: zero through five. Majority of philanthropic and charitable efforts for education,
- 21:22Speaker 1: expressing around literacy, focus on kids that are grade five
- 21:26Speaker 1: or lower. When they're babies, when they can't talk back
- 21:30Speaker 1: to us, And when they're so cute that your empathy
- 21:33Speaker 1: doesn't turn off, that's where most of the resources go.
- 21:38Speaker 1: And that's important because I think early education establishes the
- 21:42Speaker 1: trajectory for a child's life. They say that if you're
- 21:45Speaker 1: not reading on grade level by third grade, then you
- 21:49Speaker 1: are in a really, really bad place. But there's a
- 21:51Speaker 1: sixth grader somewhere right now that's not reading on grade level.
- 21:55Speaker 1: And that kid needs help. We can't give up on
- 21:58Speaker 1: him for the rest of his life because he's not
- 22:00Speaker 1: reading on grade level in the sixth grade. There has
- 22:04Speaker 1: to be some sort of intervention for those kids, for
- 22:07Speaker 1: the kids that are in juvenile detention centers, for the
- 22:09Speaker 1: kids that we call troublemakers. When he was in the
- 22:12Speaker 1: third grade, you would have given him a book. Now
- 22:13Speaker 1: he's in the eighth grade and you clutch your purse
- 22:15Speaker 1: when he walks by. He's still a kid and he
- 22:19Speaker 1: needs support. And I want nerds for literacy to do that.
- 22:24Speaker 1: I hope that Over the course of the next decade
- 22:26Speaker 1: or so, we're able to grow to a scale where
- 22:28Speaker 1: we can fit in an ecosystem with a Dolly Parton
- 22:33Speaker 1: imagination library.
- 22:35Speaker 2: I love that. I love Dolly. I'm into Misty.
- 22:38Speaker 1: I heard that.
- 22:39Speaker 5: I heard about the Maginational Library. I was like, oh,
- 22:41Speaker 5: this is amazing. I already love her, but this is
- 22:44Speaker 5: even more. So you taking up the torch and you
- 22:47Speaker 5: seeing that from Inspo and that leading it, I'm sure
- 22:50Speaker 5: that's exactly the energy that Tupac and Dolly both wanted
- 22:53Speaker 5: is people to take Inspo for them and to move forward.
- 22:56Speaker 5: But I also think it's very interesting that you noted
- 22:58Speaker 5: that the way that we talk about literacy and reading to.
- 23:01Speaker 2: Kids is very.
- 23:03Speaker 5: it's been this way for generations where they kind of
- 23:06Speaker 5: put reading as this like elite thing to do rather
- 23:08Speaker 5: than like make it easy. And I think graphic novels
- 23:11Speaker 5: and anime and manga, they do like have like a
- 23:14Speaker 5: space in helping kids build that relationship with readings that
- 23:18Speaker 5: it's not so stodgy an idea. So I guess like
- 23:21Speaker 5: one question I wanted to ask you like fandom related is,
- 23:25Speaker 5: and I think it's related to like being able to
- 23:27Speaker 5: actually insert yourself into a story is if you were
- 23:30Speaker 5: to isekai yourself into any universe, Which universe would you
- 23:34Speaker 5: choose to be part of?
- 23:35Speaker 1: Oh, that's easy. I'm going to the Pokemon universe. There's
- 23:37Speaker 1: no crime. No, no, no. It's all Pokemon related. No
- 23:43Speaker 1: one's killing like real people. They're like stealing Pokemon.
- 23:47Speaker 2: But there's crime. There's crime. There's Team Rocket. There's Officer Jenny's.
- 23:50Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's Pokemon related crime.
- 23:52Speaker 2: Pokemon crime. It's not people crime.
- 23:55Speaker 3: Fake Pokemon daycare crime.
- 23:57Speaker 1: Yeah. Think about the level of universal health care required
- 24:01Speaker 1: for Pokemon centers to be free, bro. there's no, you've
- 24:05Speaker 1: never had to pay to take your Pokemon to a
- 24:07Speaker 1: Pokemon center.
- 24:07Speaker 2: This is true. I would have, I.
- 24:11Speaker 1: Would have a great time and I would be a
- 24:14Speaker 1: gym leader, but I would do, I would do double
- 24:17Speaker 1: battles at my gym. Like you gotta, you, you, you gotta,
- 24:19Speaker 1: you gotta tag team at my gym. And what I
- 24:22Speaker 1: would be famous for is I would have a Snorlax
- 24:25Speaker 1: and a Golurk and I would throw them out at
- 24:27Speaker 1: the same time. And they kind of like, they kind
- 24:29Speaker 1: of like fuse. Cause like Golurk is a, He's a
- 24:33Speaker 1: ghost suit of armor. So Snorlax would like don the
- 24:37Speaker 1: suit of armor and it'd be really cool. I would
- 24:41Speaker 1: be undefeated. The Elite Four would be very upset. They'd
- 24:44Speaker 1: be like, we have no competitors because no one can
- 24:46Speaker 1: beat your gym. Oh, I was going to ask you
- 24:48Speaker 1: about Elite Four. Yeah, sorry, bro. You're not getting a
- 24:51Speaker 1: Tony badge. It is what it is. Sorry about it.
- 24:55Speaker 2: No Tony Bash for you.
- 24:56Speaker 1: Yeah, not getting it. Not getting it.
- 24:58Speaker 2: That's hilarious.
- 24:59Speaker 3: Tony, you've been phenomenal in this. Before you go, we're
- 25:02Speaker 3: going to have a quick rap segment. That's really just
- 25:05Speaker 3: quick fire questions. Just a few of them.
- 25:08Speaker 2: You ready?
- 25:08Speaker 1: I'm ready.
- 25:09Speaker 2: Batman or Superman?
- 25:11Speaker 1: Ooh, I'm going to go Superman. Even though right now
- 25:14Speaker 1: I'm very much in Lantern territory. You can put them
- 25:17Speaker 1: both down.
- 25:17Speaker 4: I see.
- 25:18Speaker 1: I'll go hang out with the core.
- 25:22Speaker 2: Okay.
- 25:23Speaker 3: Pokemon related, the original 151 or now the current modern version?
- 25:28Speaker 1: I'm going to go modern because I get to keep
- 25:30Speaker 1: the 151. I get to keep the base people. I
- 25:35Speaker 1: think Ruby and Sapphire are fun. Black and white are fun.
- 25:38Speaker 1: X and Y are fun. I'm like, I rock with
- 25:40Speaker 1: all these people. Okay.
- 25:42Speaker 5: Would you choose anime subbed or dubbed?
- 25:46Speaker 1: Oh, dubbed. I'm a voice actor. We got to do dubbed.
- 25:49Speaker 3: Okay, I was going to say he's got to rep
- 25:52Speaker 3: for his set.
- 25:53Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 25:54Speaker 3: In any medium, TV, film, music, anything, what's character's death
- 25:59Speaker 3: hurt you the most?
- 26:00Speaker 1: Ooh, that's tough. I definitely got hit hard when Kamina
- 26:07Speaker 1: died in Gurren Lagann, but I think Ryder from Fate Zero,
- 26:12Speaker 1: that got me.
- 26:13Speaker 2: I watched Fate Zero, yeah.
- 26:14Speaker 1: I said, oh, my boy. What's going on?
- 26:18Speaker 2: Okay, that's a good one. I like that.
- 26:20Speaker 3: Name something you love that most people don't. Could be
- 26:23Speaker 3: like a movie food character.
- 26:25Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie to you. There's this movie from
- 26:28Speaker 1: the 90s called Baby Geniuses. I think it has like
- 26:31Speaker 1: a sub 10% rating on Rotten Tomatoes. I love that movie.
- 26:38Speaker 2: It's a terrible movie to me.
- 26:40Speaker 1: Particularly terrible. My parents got that movie from me from
- 26:44Speaker 1: Blockbuster and they rented it and I would come home
- 26:48Speaker 1: and watch it every day. And my parents got so
- 26:50Speaker 1: tired of me watching it. They took it back to
- 26:51Speaker 1: Blockbuster before it was actually due back. I love Baby Geniuses.
- 26:57Speaker 1: I stand by that movie.
- 27:01Speaker 2: Okay.
- 27:02Speaker 5: We're talking about Green Lanterns. You're selling Linton's Territory right now.
- 27:06Speaker 2: Who do you choose more?
- 27:07Speaker 5: Hal or Jon Stewart?
- 27:10Speaker 1: I think I'm definitely a John Stewart guy, but let
- 27:14Speaker 1: it be known. My connection to the Green Lanterns is
- 27:19Speaker 1: solely because it gets me closer to Blue Lanterns. I
- 27:22Speaker 1: think the Blue Lanterns are the superior core. I think
- 27:26Speaker 1: that hope is a much stronger power driver than will
- 27:31Speaker 1: because willpower can just like, like if you look at
- 27:33Speaker 1: Guy Gardner, right? It's like willpower can just be foolishness.
- 27:37Speaker 1: Like you may have strong willpower, Just because of sheer stupidity.
- 27:42Speaker 1: Hope requires significantly more nuance. It's possible for there to
- 27:47Speaker 1: be ignorant hope, kind of like youth idealism. But for
- 27:52Speaker 1: you to be an adult Blue Lantern, for you to
- 27:54Speaker 1: look at the world the way that it is and
- 27:56Speaker 1: still have hope that it can improve and be something better.
- 27:59Speaker 1: I'm a Blue Lantern guy. That's where I hang out.
- 28:06Speaker 3: That's an excellent answer. All right, here's the last one.
- 28:08Speaker 3: If you could have any one superpower, what would it be?
- 28:11Speaker 1: Ooh, ooh. Mostly because I have one on, I do
- 28:15Speaker 1: think a blue lantern ring would just be very useful. Okay.
- 28:20Speaker 1: I'm quite imaginative. In episode one of Lanterns, there was
- 28:23Speaker 1: all that stuff about like, look at how Guy uses
- 28:26Speaker 1: the ring versus like, they use it for like specific things, blah, blah, blah.
- 28:33Speaker 1: And I'm like, man, if you even mildly convenience me,
- 28:36Speaker 1: That ring coming out, bro. I'm using the ring for everything.
- 28:40Speaker 1: Traffic is bad. Ring. It's raining. Ring. I can't find
- 28:44Speaker 1: my keys. Ring. I'm using it for everything.
- 28:49Speaker 3: You're going to be charging that every five seconds with
- 28:51Speaker 3: that mentality.
- 28:52Speaker 1: No, they got to give me one of those Joe
- 28:54Speaker 1: Mullen rings where you ain't got to charge it. You just.
- 28:57Speaker 5: I mean, but she still did get down to like low.
- 29:00Speaker 5: Like she didn't wipe out every once in a while.
- 29:02Speaker 5: And she had to like store it up again.
- 29:03Speaker 1: True. I think here's what we need. What we need
- 29:07Speaker 1: is a Joel Mullen story where she has a Blue
- 29:11Speaker 1: Lantern protege. That'd be nice.
- 29:14Speaker 5: And that protege just may happen to be like you.
- 29:19Speaker 2: Maybe wearing a Mount Lady shirt.
- 29:20Speaker 1: It'd be great. Be wonderful. Be wonderful. Excellent.
- 29:26Speaker 2: Excellent.
- 29:26Speaker 3: Well, Tony, you have survived the segment. You have also
- 29:29Speaker 3: made an amazing entry into For All Nerds. Thank you
- 29:32Speaker 3: so much for being here. Please, before you go, let
- 29:34Speaker 3: the people know where they can find you, any projects
- 29:37Speaker 3: or anything else you want to plug.
- 29:39Speaker 1: I'm Tony Weaver Jr. You should go look up the
- 29:41Speaker 1: Nerds for Literacy. We're fundraising to raise $ 200, 000 to put
- 29:45Speaker 1: books in the hands of kids at underfunded schools and libraries.
- 29:48Speaker 1: And we deeply support, deeply appreciate your support in doing so.
- 29:51Speaker 1: You go to nerdsforliteracy.com, make a donation. Excellent.
- 29:54Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 29:55Speaker 1: Thank you.
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- 30:11Speaker 3: Thank you so much again, Tony, for joining the Spaceship.
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