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Usyk Beats Up Dubois! What's Next For Pacquiao? Weekend Recap! DAZN Too Many PPV's! 2nd Sub WTF? · The Rope A Dope Radio Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hey, what up, boxing fans. This is the Rope of
• 0:04
  Speaker 1: Dope radio podcast. I am your host, Chris Carlson. We
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  Speaker 1: are live on a Wednesday afternoon. We have much to discuss.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously Usik taking care of business man. This dude is impressive.
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  Speaker 1: His opponent in the rematch was Daniel Dubois, which you
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  Speaker 1: know after the fight, well even before the fight, you know,
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  Speaker 1: there was reports to him maybe showing up a little
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  Speaker 1: later than normal or late whatever, not getting there all
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  Speaker 1: that early. Of course, I don't really know his schedule normally,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But the video came out
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  Speaker 1: and I haven't you know, seen it debunked as far
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  Speaker 1: as that's an old video or whatever, but it sounded
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  Speaker 1: like he was like there was a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: around him at his house. It just did the optics,
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  Speaker 1: whether it actually played any kind of role. It's the
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  Speaker 1: optics of like, wait, what I mean, people have friends
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  Speaker 1: and family around them, especially family and people close to him,
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  Speaker 1: you know, friends and whatnot at their house the day
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  Speaker 1: of the fight. Not everybody sits in silence, you know.
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  Speaker 1: But the optics didn't look good. But you know what
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  Speaker 1: did look good inside the ring? Alexander Usik so no
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  Speaker 1: matter what happened, I don't think that should play a
• 1:41
  Speaker 1: major part in when unfolded in the ring, So we
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  Speaker 1: will talk about that. Of course. I gotta admit Pakiao
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  Speaker 1: fought a little better than I thought he would. I
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  Speaker 1: guess he did. Look he definitely looked better than he
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  Speaker 1: did that and that exhibition. But he you know, recently
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  Speaker 1: said he did and will even trained for that, and
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  Speaker 1: it sounds like he's gonna continue to carry on. Hopefully
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  Speaker 1: nothing you know, that happens to him at this age,
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  Speaker 1: but it is what it is. You know, Barrios showed
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  Speaker 1: him too much respect. I was okay with the draw.
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  Speaker 1: I actually we'll talk about that, just because neither guy
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  Speaker 1: did enough, you know, so I wasn't really too If
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  Speaker 1: people say pak yea one, I don't have a problem
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  Speaker 1: with that, but I wasn't too freaked out with the draw. Fundora, Wow,
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  Speaker 1: that was his best performance as a pro against Tim Zoo.
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  Speaker 1: Where does he go from here? Figure row against all
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  Speaker 1: is Joette. I thought Joette won the fight. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think there's a major debate there, But you know, was
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  Speaker 1: it as one sided at times as they were saying
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  Speaker 1: in the ring. I don't necessarily think that, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: I did think Joett was landing the better punches no
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  Speaker 1: matter what the stats say. So we'll talk about that card.
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  Speaker 1: You know, obviously the Dionne pay per view, the Amazon
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  Speaker 1: pay per view. Yes, we got an afternoon and an
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  Speaker 1: evening pay per view, and then Bam on his own.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk a little bit about that card. We do
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  Speaker 1: have Xander ziaz and the Horror Hick Garcia and the
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  Speaker 1: last show for ESPN and Top Rank as part of
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  Speaker 1: their deal Clubrisa Shields returns. There's a few shows on
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  Speaker 1: his own, so we'll preview and predict, you know, some
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  Speaker 1: of that action. And you know, as we get into August,
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  Speaker 1: which it's kind of hard to believe, you know, summer
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  Speaker 1: starts and then you're like, what, it's almost August. You know,
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  Speaker 1: NFL training camps are starting soon after college football training
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  Speaker 1: camps to start, and then the summer starts to dwindle down.
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  Speaker 1: But you were in the dog days of the summer
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  Speaker 1: in August. Although there's some fights that I'm interested in,
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  Speaker 1: no doubt about it, it does start to thin out.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's a little funky if you look
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  Speaker 1: at what's on the schedule, especially now with Ravonte not
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  Speaker 1: fighting on that targeted August sixteenth day, and if in
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  Speaker 1: fact he was going to fight on that on that date,
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  Speaker 1: we would have had another afternoon and evening pay per
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  Speaker 1: view on one Saturday afternoon. So that that's great, that's great.
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  Speaker 1: So I do want to talk a little bit about
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  Speaker 1: the de zone pay per view stuff. I'll follow up
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  Speaker 1: a little bit about what we talked about last week,
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  Speaker 1: but really this week it's about what Turkey and then
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  Speaker 1: dis Owne said. Turkey came out with this no more
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  Speaker 1: pay per views, it's ruining the sport. And then literally
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  Speaker 1: I think the next day, Desne comes out with the
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  Speaker 1: press release talking about well, it's a second subscription and
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  Speaker 1: then you'll get all the pay per views. So it
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  Speaker 1: kind of makes it seem like, so you you still
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  Speaker 1: are one by one doing the pay per views, Like
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  Speaker 1: to you know, someone that's not a hardcore fan, is
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  Speaker 1: there still pay per views then? Or is it you
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  Speaker 1: know the way they it's like a second subscription to
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  Speaker 1: get all the big fights. But what's that exactly mean?
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, it's kind of vague. It kind of
• 5:44
  Speaker 1: sounds like you can get all the pay per views,
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  Speaker 1: so you're still doing pay per view then, you know,
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  Speaker 1: so we'll talk a little bit about that. It just
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  Speaker 1: and then you know some of the other comments. He
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  Speaker 1: talked about how this new model you know, is going
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  Speaker 1: to grow the dezone app majorly in the US and UK.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll talk a little bit about that. Let's see
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  Speaker 1: what else, well, some other fight news in boxing twitter thing.
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  Speaker 1: I have noticed a lot of folks talking about, you know,
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  Speaker 1: where USK ranks as far as heavyweights all time, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, I kind of leave that up to the historians.
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  Speaker 1: I have an opinion somewhat. I can see a list
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  Speaker 1: and go I would have switched those two around, or
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have that person in or whatever, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean. But I leave a lot of that
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  Speaker 1: up to the historians. And to be fair, they argue
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  Speaker 1: and debate all the time too, so I'm not completely
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  Speaker 1: I'm just not too worried about where they rank all
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  Speaker 1: time fight right now. Alls I know is Usik is
• 7:04
  Speaker 1: a great fighter. His style is all purpose. You know,
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  Speaker 1: the guy can really fight in a variety of ways.
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  Speaker 1: He definitely found you know, between accuracy and speed and
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  Speaker 1: work rate and then you know that pop and punching power.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he just he's a great fighter man. And
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  Speaker 1: I think had he been at heavyweight longer and with
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  Speaker 1: more fights, you know, he would have just been that
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  Speaker 1: much bigger. I think that would have helped him. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: he definitely got, you know, a bigger name as the
• 7:44
  Speaker 1: years have gone on, and we know he's a you know,
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  Speaker 1: a road warrior fighting you know, folks on the road
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  Speaker 1: all the time. But but I kind of choose to
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  Speaker 1: just appreciate what's going on right here right now. You know,
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  Speaker 1: That's just the kind of way I look at it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like to dig too deep. I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: to have a major debate about it. But before we
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  Speaker 1: like I said, I'm not going to get into a
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  Speaker 1: big debate where he you know, where Usk lands on
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  Speaker 1: the all time heavyweight list. He's just shown he's a
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  Speaker 1: class above this generation's heavyweights. I know Tyson Fury, you know,
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  Speaker 1: swears up and down that he got screwed in both
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  Speaker 1: of those fights. Maybe at some point he'll admit it.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe that's just his mentality. He just can't admit it,
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  Speaker 1: you know, which it is what it is, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean. But the way he talks about it,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, it's kind of disrespectful, but it is
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  Speaker 1: what it is. He's a fighter, you know, they're wired
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  Speaker 1: different than a lot of people walking this earth. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to be overly critical at that. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he won those fights. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: if that's what, I don't want to see a trilogy,
• 10:21
  Speaker 1: I'll say that. And I know he's talking about well,
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: I don't want to fight, you know, fighting Joshua makes
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  Speaker 1: no sense because Daboa biced him, you know, so I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I just think that at this point aj
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: and Fury just makes a lot of sense. But whatever,
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  Speaker 1: we're neither here or there. Usik, though, you know, he
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  Speaker 1: was fairly aggressive yet still like circling, like you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean, Like he was aggressive with this jab
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  Speaker 1: right away land in nice right hand and left hands
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  Speaker 1: straight left hands, nice right hook, I should say. So
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  Speaker 1: he was assertive and aggressive, but he's still you know,
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  Speaker 1: did it with a lot of intelligence. I thought both
• 11:09
  Speaker 1: were jabbing fairly well in the second round. The left
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  Speaker 1: hand counters were pretty much the difference in the second round,
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  Speaker 1: third round, Usik, you know, whether it's lead or following
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  Speaker 1: the jab or counter. Those left hands were adding up
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  Speaker 1: along with the effective jab once again, third or fourth round,
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  Speaker 1: steady jab, you know, keeping du Bois off balance not
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  Speaker 1: able to set up properly, and Husik did a great
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  Speaker 1: job of keeping the action in the center of the ring.
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  Speaker 1: He wasn't getting put on the ropes, he wasn't getting
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  Speaker 1: in the bad situations. But in the same breath, like
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  Speaker 1: I said, he was, you know he was. He was
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  Speaker 1: being assertive too. So the jab was getting through pretty
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: much almost everything he was throwing. It felt like was
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  Speaker 1: landing a nice hook, Buzz du Bois. Du Bois didn't
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  Speaker 1: land a nice right hand, but then a right hook
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  Speaker 1: dropped him, and you know, it was a great shot.
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  Speaker 1: He got up a huge left hook drops them badly
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  Speaker 1: again and the fight is over, you know, like who's
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  Speaker 1: to just took the fight right from him. He's like,
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: now we're gonna establish something right away, and like I said,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be assertive. I'm gonna be aggressive. I'm still
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: gonna be you know on my p's and q's. But
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: it was a great performance and he realized that this
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: is how it's gonna be. I'm not gonna, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like I said, he was circling and pivoting and all that.
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: He was still using his intelligence and defense and all that.
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  Speaker 1: But whether it was the like I said, the illo
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  Speaker 1: up off of a jab, left hand, the counter, the lead,
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  Speaker 1: those right hooks, he just was doing whatever he wanted
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: to do and du bois, Yeah, these little moments, like
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  Speaker 1: I said, he had a jab going a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: but just never was there. You know, so shouts out
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  Speaker 1: to Usik Man like you know, actoriser Way. He showed,
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  Speaker 1: you know, his his level right, and when he came
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  Speaker 1: up to heavyweight, it was there was some questions, you know,
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  Speaker 1: especially like you knew his skill was going to be there.
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: He knew he'd have the speed advantage. But I still
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: can't get over those first two fights you know that
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  Speaker 1: he had and some of the you know, it was
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: I know, he had this weird moment where he wasn't
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: looking good in the COVID timeframe. You know, he had
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: some uh, a lot of boxers equal had some time
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  Speaker 1: off and you know, their careers kind of stalled, and
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  Speaker 1: so you know he almost went. You know, he basically
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  Speaker 1: like the end of twenty nineteen, he fought Witherspoon, and
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: then he fought like over a year later he fought Shasaa,
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  Speaker 1: and then almost a year later he fought Joshua and
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  Speaker 1: then you know he was just on this. It was
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: just kind of weird. Like until that Anthony Joshua fight,
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: I wasn't one sold you know at the heavyweight division
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: stuff based off the Witherspoon at Shasaura for being honest,
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  Speaker 1: you know. But once I saw the Joshua fight, it
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: was like, okay, wait a second. You know, he's gonna
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: do really good at this weight class, and but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he just all oh he was fighting good competition there.
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: It was like once a year once, you know, last
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: year was the first time he fought twice a year
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  Speaker 1: since like twenty eighteen, you know. So, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: it's just I understand some folks saying, hey, these guys
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: had twenty thirty, forty, all these fights at heavyweight. You
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: can obviously point to deeper divisions, I'm sorry, deeper heavyweight
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: divisions in the past where there is more talent. But
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: this crop was pretty entertaining and pretty fun to watch,
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: and we had great fights, we had upsets, and it
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: was a great era. I'm not gonna say it's as
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: great as you know, seventies and eighties or whatever. You know,
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  Speaker 1: there's times you can go back and it's tough to
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  Speaker 1: match him, but you can only do what you do
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  Speaker 1: in your era, you know. So, but I do understand
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  Speaker 1: folks saying, you know, he's only had whatever it was,
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  Speaker 1: is it seven heavyweight fights? Seven or eight something like that. So,
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  Speaker 1: like I said, I'm not getting caught up into it.
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  Speaker 1: Usik is just a great fighter. He's right up there
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  Speaker 1: with his generation of best fighters. Some think he's the
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  Speaker 1: best out of this last generation, some people don't. Some
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  Speaker 1: people I think I have him too highly ranked on
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  Speaker 1: the top ten, you know, heavyweights of all time. But
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  Speaker 1: it is what it is. Now, what's next? Does he
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: fight h Parker and Cabell in a couple other boxers.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think Cabo he is a good fighter, and
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: could he maybe have some success against Husick maybe, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't rule it out. Parker's been on a nice run.
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  Speaker 1: Do I think he'd beat Usik? No, But if he
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  Speaker 1: wants to clean out the rest of the division and
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  Speaker 1: then maybe Moses, you know, I wouldn't go right to
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  Speaker 1: Moses after, you know that as the next fight, though,
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  Speaker 1: I think that's too much of a jump, not for
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  Speaker 1: Usk obviously, And I don't know, like if he wants
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  Speaker 1: to walk away, cool, if he doesn't cool, if he
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  Speaker 1: wants to if he feels like, hey man, I'm making
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  Speaker 1: a ton of money, especially working you know, on some
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: fights hand in hand with you know, Turkey in the
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  Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia re hot season. But I also, like I said,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not I'm just not a huge Like I can't
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  Speaker 1: seeing him fight Fury again. It is what it is like.
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  Speaker 1: I can't sit there and tell him, dude, why are
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: you taking that fight if he's gonna get paid all
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: these millions of dollars, you know, So it's easy to say, dude,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to see it. But if you're in
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: that scenario, of course you fight Fury again because you
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: know you can beat him, and you're just gonna stack
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: that much more money. So I don't know, you know,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: from when I was a kid to a teenager to
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: my twenties and thirties and beyond, like over time, I've
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: just kind of changed my viewpoint or kind of widen
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: my viewpoint on boxers fighting when they get older and
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: obviously in your thirties isn't really a big deal anymore
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: in a lot of sports now, but especially heavyweight boxing.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Boxing in general, but especially heavyweight boxing, there's not that
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: many young great fighters coming up really as of right now,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: but there is. It does feel like Moses is a
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: guy that points in the right direction. But yeah, I mean,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: if you fight Kabby Parker Kabba yell and then fury
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: for the third time. You know, if he does that,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: more power to him. You know, whatever he wants to do.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: He can walk off in the sunset as well, whatever
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: he wants to do. You know, I don't it is
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  Speaker 1: what it is. It's hard, like when you hear about
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: the reported purses, like if that reported purse is even
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: first of all, if that reported person is true, I
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: don't know if it's true, I gotta admit, But let's
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: just say in theory, because they're talking about, you know,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: two hundred million dollars. Even if it was one hundred
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: million dollars and it's seventy thirty or sixty five, you know,
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  Speaker 1: thirty five, that's crazy money. You know. If you're getting
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: sixty five million to fight Parker next, that's tough, you know,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: even if you're getting thirty you know, I don't know
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: that the purse is. I really don't know, Like financially speaking,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: if they did put up two hundred million for this fight,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: I just it's not that I don't think it's possible
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: or whatever, but obviously it would have to be Saudi money.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: I don't think they gave them to it. Maybe they did,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: but they lost money on it. Like there's no way
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: that pay per view generated enough, you know. I mean
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: that's a lot of paper Pew buys. It would have
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: to do. I guarantee he it didn't hit you know,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: even five hundred thousand here, like it would have to
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: do big. And five hundred thousand's a huge number here nowadays,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: huge number. So I'm not ripping it. I'm just saying,
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  Speaker 1: but these persons, like I said, even if they're a
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  Speaker 1: third of it, you know, that would be a ton
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: of money. If he's making one hundred and thirty million,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: then wow, But even if he's making sixty or thirty
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: or whatever. So it is what it is, Dubois. You
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: know that that video where everybody's it's it's like a
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: pre party. You know, it's like a pregame before you
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: go to a party or before you go out or
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: you watch the game with your boys, you know, pregame
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: and then go out before a game like actually football
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: game or whatever. You know. So it had that kind
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: of vibe where it was like, wait, who's fighting? Like
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: this dude's got a fight? Like what your mentality can't
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: be like this, you know. So was he taking it
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: one seriously that I don't know, you know, is that
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: going to have you in the right mindset? You know,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I just the optics look horrible. Let's
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: just put it that way. What is Danie dball like
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: twenty seven, twenty eight something like that. So is he
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: gone for good?
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: No?
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: I mean he got beat Bayou Sik, like you know
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: what I mean, he could do damage for the rest
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: of the for you know, in the next couple of years.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: So I don't think he should retire. But if he's
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: making that kind of money, you know, if you like
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: I said, even if it's half true, you know, there's
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: a lot to think about. Let's put it that way.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: There's a lot to think about there. So but you know, ultimately,
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: these as are gonna do what they're gonna do, as
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: we know. But I don't blame Usik for, you know,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: for wanting to fight more if he if he wants
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: to do whatever he wants to do, I'm cool with
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: He's been the you know, it's been great to just
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: follow his career and how he just the craftiness, like
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: just the all purpose especially at the heavyweight division, you
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: don't always find those high, high level skill guys, but
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: then can also sit there and trade right in front
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: of you. But let's see, uh, Dick, Dick cares, is it?
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: He pulled an upset on the on the on the
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: on the under card, beating Sorenko. That was that was
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: a nice upset. A lot of people I saw Thoughted
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Edmundson something like that, Beaten Lappin. I'd have to agree.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: But Lawrence a Koli so he won the fight. But dude,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: like this, dude, he just looks so unserious, like I
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: don't know how, Like the weight is so out of control,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: like it just doesn't make any sense. I just don't.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. Man, it'd be different if
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: he build it, you know, he built to that. But
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: you're looking at last last year, he weighed two twenty
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: three in May. Right, his last fight at Cruiser was
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Chris Williams Smith. He lost. I think it was. Was
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: it a majority decision? I believe, Let me check, Actually
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: I think it was. So he fought at heavyweight Rasanski
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Rosanski and he weighed two twenty three. Later that year
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: he weighs two sixty And now you know, I think
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: it was like two sixty two or something. I just
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: he looks like shit. He just does, like his body
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: looks horrible. I'm not saying I was super high on
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: him until he gained the weight, you know, or something
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: like that. I'm not, but like, I just don't know
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: why you have to be at that weight, because it
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: just it makes you look slow, sluggish. I did see
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: somebody say, man, how did you know? I can't believe
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: he doesn't look worse because he gained forty pounds in
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: one fight. Yeah, I guess, but he you know, he's
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: a professional athlete, so he probably shouldn't be looking horrible,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So to me, it looked
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: bad and he clearly has a bet like it's it's
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: not great weight that he put on at all. It
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: makes him look like shit, and he he just whatever
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: he won. I'm not saying like he got lucky or
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: something like that, but you know, I just I just
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: don't see why he has to be that way, especially
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: in that fight. You know, the guy's not two sixty
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: you know, so why the hell are you? You know,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't get it. Well, I mean, I
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: get it, but it's not a good thing. Let's put
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: it that way. But yeah, shouts out to the to
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: the bois for you know, making a run back to
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: this fight. But and I'm not even gonna say it
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: with some sort of non effort or something like that.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I'm not saying that at all. He just
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: got beat man and that pre party stuff not being focused.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Maybe you know, these big paydays caught up to him.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: It's not fully focused. It is what it is, you know,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: the newfound fame fighting Wembley. I don't know, but I'm
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: not gonna, like I said, I'm not gonna sit there
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: and say that had he been at home all by
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: himself doing like I was about to say, yoga meditating,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: that is what I meant to say, you know that
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: he would have won the fight. I think that's silly too.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: So it's just like I said, the optics looked just rediness.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: They looked just really bad, all right, onto that other card,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: so I have to make Pat y'all look better. But
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: then I thought he would. But it was kind of like, really,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: in the first two rounds, I think you could give
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: the first round to Manny for sure, maybe the second round.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: I thought Brios started to get the timing with his
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: right hand. I felt like the jab in the right
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: hand could have won him to fight. And you know,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: the maybe the second, but the third, the fourth, the fifth,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: sixth was a two way round. But that right around
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: that point in the second half, you know, if you
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: look at the seventh, if you look at the eighth,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: you know, I did think Manny was landing the better shots,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: and at times, maybe just early and late in the round,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Barrios would do something, but then these paqyal flurries would
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: win him the round type thing. So I think though
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: in round eighth, like I said, better land seventh than eighth,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: the common little combinations he was starting to land, and
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: unless I messed up, I think they had. They did
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: the was it the tenth round twice? On the uh,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: I think they. I think I'm pretty sure they did
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: the tenth round twice. As far as it went tenth round,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: tenth round, then it was the twelfth because I remember
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: scribbling something, Oh, going, wait, what what round is it?
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Did I mess this up? But then you know you
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: started to see later Barrios, you know, landing those jabs,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: you know, So yeah, so I did think in the
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: eleventh or twelve. Barrios closed nicely. I thought he did
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: pretty good in the tenth whatever. Like I was okay
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: with the draw though, I really was because neither fighter
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: really established himself enough to be like, no, he won. Now,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: if they would have said many won, I wouldn't have
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: been shocked, you know, I definitely wouldn't. But it was, Uh,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: it was a pretty boring fight. That's not going out
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: on the limb, you know. And I I just thought
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Barrios in his corner was saying it. He was just
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: showing it's cool to respect you know fighters, right, you're
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: in there, but you can't do it to the point
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: where the you know where you're just not thrown enough,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, and being effective, I should say too. I
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: mean neither guy was effective in this fight. That's why
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: I was okay with a draw too. I mean, you're
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: talking about total punches. Neither guy landed twenty percent one
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: twenty to one oh one in favor of Barrios. It's
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: just the jab forty five to twenty. That's where you
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: can get some separation there. But they just weren't accurate.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: It just it was I don't know, man, it just
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: it really wasn't. It's just I don't know it was.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to say a non effort, but Barrios
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: needed to listen to his corner more often in it.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Like I said, just you can really deter Pakyo from
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: coming in and landing those little flurry combos if you
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: just stick at jab in his face and as he moves.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: He was landing with right hands as he was moving out,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: moving his head. You know, Pakio has a rhythm that
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: he keeps a lot of the fight, you know. So
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: but when to be honest with you, like older fighters,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: fighters coming back from you know, four years off or whatever.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: He did, he he looked all right. Considering I will
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: say that I think Ugas at his best is much
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: better than Brios. That's not really a big argument or nothing,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: but it was a different style, different you know, like
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: clearly Barrios knew what he had to do and he
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: kept doing it. And I'm sorry us Brios. It seemed
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: like the game plan was there to win, and he
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: like his corner. He just showed him too much respect.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: You know. I think Mario Barrow's he's probably he's definitely
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: not as bad as some people say. But he's you know,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: he's just because he took Tank laid into a fight
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: and was winning rounds. I do think that, you know,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: in some sense, he got over rated too, So he's
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: somewhere in between not really really good and just not garbage,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But he just didn't show enough.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: And now that's back to back performances where you're like, dude,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: you got to show more life, man, you got you know,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: And I don't know, I'm not sure what's up with them.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: But as far as Manny, I mean, people have they've
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: talked about the Mayweather fight, they've talked about They've talked
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: about Rolie, they've talked about I've even heard rank or
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: see it obviously Tank. So there's fights for him if
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: he wants to continue, And if he fought, like within
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: six months, he probably would look just as good, maybe
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: even better because of the time off or whatever. But
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: once again, you know, it is what it is. I'm
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: not crazy about guys taking long breaks and coming back,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: and people always bring up George Foreman, but if you
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: look at his path back, first of all, it was
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: a lot longer break, right. He retired the first time
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: way earlier in his career than a lot of fighters do.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: But you know, he grinded his way back to it.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Though it wasn't just oh I'm off this many years boom,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: I had a fight, then all of a sudden, I
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: accomplish my goal, you know. So you know, if Pakyall
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: wants to keep fighting, it is what it is. You know.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: I'm not I don't really want to see in Mayweather fight,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: to be honest, you know, but I could see I
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: could see Rolie, I can see Jarvonte. I could definitely
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: see your Monte. Because a lot of people think Patyell
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: won the fight anyway, so that's what they'll say, Oh,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: do you got screwed in his last fight? You know,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: But I gotta I gotta give him some credit for
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: looking a lot better than he had. I'll say that.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: So you know, I'm not gonna sit there and say, oh,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: he's fresher, you know, but like he just didn't look
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: like he had been out of the ring professionally anyway
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: for that long. I will say that. And as I mentioned,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: I do think if you gave him the fight, I
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: can't sit there and you know debate that. I just
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: it's one of those fights where I'm like, dude, neither
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: of them established enough to win it, like clearly, not
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: even when I mean clearly it could be a clear
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: seven to five fight, you know. But if I had
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: to pick a win or yeah, I would have picked
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: back y'all. I would have picked back y'all. And yeah,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: he's gonna keep fighting. It is what it is. And
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: the you know, the crowds and the gates aren't going
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: to be as big as they were obviously, but the
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: crowd is still like a very excited little crowd, like
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: they still are into their guy, and there's just something
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: about Manny. Like I said, it's not as big as
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: the crowds and the gates not as big great, but
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: the dude, they were into it. You could hear it,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: you know, they were really into it. And so the
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: crowd once the crowd starts showing up, you know, I'm
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: not saying it was some kind of huge, huge crowd,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: but it was boisterous, you know. It was a fun
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: crowd that way. Fundora well real quick fear. Oh you know,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: there was that picture and video video of him looking chubby,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: and so I'm not shocked that he was having weight issues, right,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: So Pitbull Cruise, you know, took on a late replacement
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: and dude did okay, you know, did fine? Can compare,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: you know, considering it was a ten rounder he won,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: We'll see, you know, what's up with him. But as
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: far as Mondor and Tim Zu, now, heady, I did
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: pick tim Zu. But I'll say this, I'm watching it
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: with like two buddies, right and I'm watching tim Zu
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: come into the ring, and then when they're announcing his name,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: he just didn't look right. And I'm not saying, dude,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: he was he actually had a bad camp or he
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: was sick or you know, I'm not saying like that,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: but he looked a little empty like his I'm not
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: taking any credit away from Fandora at all. I picked
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: tim Zuo in this fight, Okay, So when I say that,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: there's no excuses, I'm just saying what I saw out
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: of or. Right when they announced him Zoo, I was like,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know, dude, he just doesn't look himself. And
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: I think that's overall, you know, like mentally, like once
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: once he started getting hit again, it just seemed like,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know, like that, And you could also talk
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: about the game plan in the corner like he has
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: to be assertive, he has to have his jab those
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: overhand rights. He needed to get on the inside. And
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: this is what I want to give Fandora a ton
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: of credit for, because he fought a very controlled fight
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: and it's something that a lot of people have talked about.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: If he uses his length, if keeps people at the
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: end of his punches, like the dude is a handful
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: and he is improving, and it just you just can't
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: deny it. But you know, midway through the first round,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: nice left hand and then another left and you're like, whoa,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: you know, like holy shit, like what just happened? You know,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: like I was kind of shocked that it was that,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: you know, that quick. It was just like not that
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: the fight was over. But I really liked I just
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: seeing him down like that on that left hand during
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: an exchange. I don't know, like Fandora definitely, you know,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: landing the more accurate punches throughout this fight for the
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: most part. Onto the second round, you know, the chats,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: the combinations, you know, having tim Zoo trapped on the
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: ropes and you know, like he did kind of bomb
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: his way out of being off the ropes. A couple
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: couple shots, but before you know it, there was a
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: cutover is I think his right eye. Third round, the
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: jab the lanks, the left hands, you know, rendering tim
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Zuo like unable to get on the inside and it
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: felt like he needed to jab more. Maybe just getting
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: hit with that counter left hand was troubling him obviously,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: but you know, from the like I'll say this, Tim
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: did keep fighting, you know, because he bloodied his nose
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: with a nice shot in the fourth round. I've believe
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: it was it was like looping shots but still not enough.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: You know, Like the fourth round was a really fun
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: round to watch Tim Zuo definitely, you know, he had
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: some success in the last part of that round, and
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: then also in the fifth he had a really good start,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: like an early right hand, but then Fondora kind of
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: got back on his jab using that distance, keeping him
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: at the end of the punch. I did see some
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: people give him the fifth round Jim Zuo or the
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: sixth round. You know, there was a really nice right hand,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: That's something I did see that he landed, you know,
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: multiple times. But I did see someone say the right
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: hand stole the round for him in the sixth. But
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: another thing I noticed in that round was Solendora. Although
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: the jab was still there and what and what not,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: It like the punches became in that round. It seemed
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: like it had less power on it. I think the
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: broadcast even mentioned that. And it was a little arm punchy,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: just a little bit. But then came right back out
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: in the seventh jabbing really well, left hand doing the
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: damage again Tim zooland in these overhand shots. But you know,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: and I will say this, Fandora, his eye was kind
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: of like tweaking on him a little bit because he
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: kept blinking a little bit, and I thought, oh man,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: that might be kind of weird, you know, but it
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: really it didn't mean much at all. And then you know,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: it was like going out for well, it happened in
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: the seventh round. He never made it to the eighth round.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: And you know, when fighters don't continue right, to put
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: it nicely, they're gonna get a lot of shit, you know.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: I you know, I really kind of was like, really, dude,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: but not surprised at Turkey's tweet after and that's where
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: you know, he's talking about his tweet that he deleted.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: By the way, you know, it has this it has
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: this little screenshot of Tim Zuo's trainer calls fight off.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: It said in his tweet, said, I said, I said
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: to you from the beginning, Timsu does not deserved to
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: be on a re hot season card or ring magazine card.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: He can be useful as a starring partner for a
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: champion in re hot season. And that's where you're like, dude,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: first of all, you put him on a card. Okay,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: you had him on a card. It was last against
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Virgil Ortiz. So to say I told you wasn't good
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: enough to be on a card, Well, now you didn't.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: First of all, you put him on a car. You know,
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: in fact, you put him on a car without knowing
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: he wasn't cleared yet, and that's why he dropped off
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: the card. So because he wasn't you know, he wasn't
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: able to spark and whatnot because that cut, and you
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: know you brought him after that nasty cut anyway, right
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: into virtual Ortis. So I just think that that's like,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: it's just stupid. It's just stupid shit. And you know,
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: he comes across as I just want to say boxing
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: and help boxing and whatever's the best fight and the
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: best and a lot of that is just bullshit, because
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: you don't tweet like that, you don't take stuff so
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: personal like I just think it. It's over the top.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: But anyway, where's tim Zuo go from here? Dude? He
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: has to if he wants to rebuild, he's got to
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: stay like in Australia for a while and just rebuild.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: But I don't know, man, It's just he's now taking
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: a fair amount of punishment and a short amount of time.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: The things he is good at, he's just not able
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: to do in in some of it is matchup obviously
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Fandora when he's fighting like this, like I said, keeping
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: people at the end of his jab, the left hand
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: going to the body like well, he didn't really go
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: to the box. Neither of him did. And maybe it's
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: because he kept getting hit and countered. You know, trying
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: to get inside is not easy on Fandora, you know,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: especially when he's not smothering his punches. So shouts out
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: to Fandora, who hasn't proved and he's a handful, doesn't
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: have great defense. But when he's fighting with that game plan,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: it's gonna take a guy that is defensively very sound,
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: that could counter punch, that can you know, lateral movement.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: You really, you can't just stand there and trade all
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: day with him. I don't know. I think he's one
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: of the better one fifty four pounders. But can he
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: get beat? Yeah he can't. We've seen it obviously, so
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: but yeah, shots out to Fondora, tim Zu, I guess
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: back to the drawing board. But man, I don't know,
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: he's just I don't know. Man, he looks like he's
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: pretty much spent right now. But we'll see, we'll see.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: He obviously is is still a big name in Australia.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Maybe he'll go back there and and do his thing.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know, all right, figuar Roa and Joe At
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: Gonzalz Brandon Figaroa. You know, I actually thought in the
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: first round, I thought he came out pretty good, uh,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: you know, leaning on Joeett going to the body. But
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: I think even at you know, by the mid way
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: and late the body work and a few nice left hands,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: I think to the head, Gonzalez found something there and
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: it took a while for Fondora or sorry Figueroa to
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: win another round. Took a little bit, I gave just
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: due to bodywork. The sixth or sorry, I'm looking at
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: it wrong. The second, the third, the hooks and uppercuts,
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: the shorter, more accurate lands to the body and head,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: just a better defense too. It's not that Figaroa wasn't
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: busy during a lot of these rounds, but he just
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: wasn't effective, and he was smothering his work in like
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: beyond some of the stuff we saw later in the fight.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: In that first round two, like Figueroa almost started fighting
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: like his brother Moore, where he's leaning on a guy
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: but not looking at him with his head kind of
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: tilted side. I don't know. He was smothering his punches
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: too much. And he does with his type of style,
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: you know, like he does. He does. It's it's hard
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: not to smother his punches sometimes. But this one he
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: was really smothering his work and shots out to the
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: Gonzalez because he you know, he was just he was
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: better all around and just the cleaner shots. Like I said,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: work in the body, landed huge counter right hands, just
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: counters in general, left hands. You know. Now you know,
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: five through seven, let's say five six seven, you know,
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: maybe the fifth round you could give to Figaroa. But
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: the body punching the counter shots. It just was adding
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: up way too much. Eighth round body work, right hooks
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: to the head and these are clean, huge right hand
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: like in the ninth round, huge right hand landing. And
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: I even wrote, you know, in one of those rounds,
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: like he's looking a lot like you know, his brother wow,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: like Omar so. But I did think in the tenth round,
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: whatever it was, Figaroa did break out of it. And
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: that's his thing. He does bring a lot of activity
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: to fights, whether he loses them beats him, where wins
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: put in he loses, the beats him, I said, whether
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: he loses, wins or loses, like, he does bring a
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: lot of activity. But his punch rate had gone down
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: a little bit late. Now it started going back up
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: and back up, and some of it was effective, some
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: of it wasn't. But I did think the way he,
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: you know, the way he fought from round ten to twelve,
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: like one of those rounds was at the eleventh thirty
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: eight to one O nine or of one O nine
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: thirty eight lands like that was kind of the old Figuoa,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: but ken Figureoa summoned that the whole fight, you know,
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: and so this this came down the clean punching and
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: better better punching, because technically, you know, Figuaroa did outland
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: him two eighty two to two sixty five. And the
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: jab numbers are hilarious. Figureol landed three and joettelanded seven
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: two percent of his jabs out of one twenty three.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: That's what Figuarreol landed. It was power shots heavy. So
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: you can look at the numbers and say, well, you know,
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: we'll throw them by over two hundred punches, one thousand
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: and seventy four thrown punches. But the thirty five to
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: twenty six percentage overall landing and thirty five to twenty
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: nine the power shots. You know, that's where punch stats.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: That's great, right, it does show you something. But the
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: body work was just ridiculous, just absolutely ridiculous. And Joett
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: won that fight. Like whether you had eight to four,
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: seven to five or what, I don't know what you
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: had it, but I think Joegans aways won that fight.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: I really do you know. I had him winning it.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: I think it was. Although fig did his thing late,
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: it's like, well that's that's kind of you know, your issue,
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: though you can't wait that long, and he waited that
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: long to get going otherwise. He I mean, you know,
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: obviously he did put in the fight, so it's it's
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: hard for me to say, oh, you should have done yeah,
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: but I mean overall, no, I didn't. I did not
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: see I thought Joe at one like I said, whatever,
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: you had a seven to five, eight to four whatever,
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know two was it two scorecards that had
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: an eight to four in seven to five. Basically, I
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: just I did not see that whatsoever. I just like,
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: you couldn't. I couldn't. I couldn't be talked into that one.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: I'm all for like watching a fight again and keeping
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: an open mind and be like, yeah, maybe I was wrong, Yeah,
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: maybe you know, but I don't know, man, I just
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: I thought, figure, well, even like at the end of
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: the fight, you know, you can kind of tell on
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: people's faces, you know, But yeah, to have two Sutherland,
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: who is the other guy? I know one of them
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: is Seleman. To have eight to four, I don't have
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: eight rounds to get to figure out in that fight.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: I really don't. So, you know, is there a rematch?
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: It was a good fight. I think Joette, you know,
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: definitely like earned a rematch. That's for damn sure. But
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: we'll see where that goes. Like I said, one Picasso
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: one maxioh Gary Russell Junior.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: One.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: It's nice to see him back. Let's see, you know,
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: if he can remain active somewhat anyway, because he's always
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: been a really good fighter man. But we'll see, we'll see,
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: because he could make it interesting here if you were
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: able to get a sizable fight. Now that he got
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: some of that rusted off, but overall it wasn't entertaining card,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: you know, the main event. I didn't expect a whole lot,
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: so like I really didn't. And pak yao, did I
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: have to admit, pak yao? Did you know supersede my expectations?
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: Now the bar was low at the time. But I
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: can't sit there and say he looked great and man,
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: those combos were crisp and but as I mentioned, if
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: you told me he won to fight, I'm not going
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: to sit there and argue about it, right, So on
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: to Cafu and Bam Jesse, Bam Rodriguez. You know the
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: first couple of rounds.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: Bam.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: Once again, I just love his upper bottom. You know,
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: his feet, He's got great feet in positioning, but that
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: along with the head movement, upper body movement. It just
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: it's very aggressive. It's smart pressure, you know, and those
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: short shots off the jab, the jabs always stinging or
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: setting it up. Ku Foo was laying some nice books
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: off the ropes. I will say that nice straight left
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: counter as well. In those first few rounds. The fourth
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: round had a lot of back and forth in it
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: that the fight was on the inside a lot of
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: the fight. And I thought in the fifth and sixth
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: they were close round and you know, I definitely think
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: that's where you can give some of this some of
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: these rounds to Calf or at least you know, like
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: the fifth or six, you can give them one. I'd
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: say for sure, the commos to the body and and
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: also just in general, i'd say from rounds five to seven,
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: like who did a good job of like answering many
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: of BAM's flurries and successes. Now, when I say answer,
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: did it even up? Always No, it did not. It
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: did not. And Bam won this clearly with his jab,
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: with the cleaner shots, you know, constantly working the head
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: and body with the defense, the heavier shots too, and
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: then that you know, tenth round came around big right
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: hook to the head hurts Cawfu and you know he
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: stopped him, and you know, could Cafu continue, you know, sure,
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: but he was being dominated at that point. You know,
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know how many rounds do you give him
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: one round or two rounds or whatever. But Jesse Rodriguez
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: beat him cleanly. Uh.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: You also did have Austin Williams get the win. Pablo Valdez,
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: Omari Jones, Diego Pacheco. That fight was non eventful.
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: And don't get me wrong, like I'm not saying, you know,
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: like I don't know Pacheco just it just feels like
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: we're nearing his.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: His ceiling now, you know, he just the company was
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: moving a lot, didn't put up a great effort. I
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: think Pacheco just needs to be tested because that that's
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: the only way we're gonna really find out about him
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: right now. It's just it's just get tested. It's time
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: to get tested. Like fully, So I'm not saying he
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: looked horrible. He just I need to see him against
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: a high level or a higher level fighter.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: Now speaking of band though, he does move on to
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: Fernando Martinez, Fernando Daniel Martinez, and that's on that card
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: in November. Supposedly that's gonna be a DESNE subscriber card.
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know why the August card isn't that it's
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: pay per view. Obviously, Martinez coming off those back to
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: back wins over Ioki, you know, not long ago. He's
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: used to be it on a run, you know, dru
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: Wind and Borneo and that type of thing. So he
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: this is a good fight. I like the fight. It's
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: cool to plan the fight. I'm not a big I've
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: said it before. I'm not a big fan of putting
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: the fighters on a poster when they have a fight.
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: We've seen that a couple times, and they don't always
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: turn out that way, right or all of a sudden, Well,
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: it's too much of a risk. It's kind of like
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: the Bois Parker Eh. Actually, we're just gonna brain right,
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: duingustic Like it's just kind of funky. Like it's one
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: thing to plan it and say that's our plan. But
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: my point is beyond some shaky stuff like oh he's injured.
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: Is he injured for sure? Do we think that? Or
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: is that just playing it safe? You know, in this fight,
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: you kind of knew he was gonna win, but you
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: could also get injured and then you're not on that card.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: So I'm not a big fan of that. I like
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: setting up fights. I like saying, hey if he if
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: he wins, he's gonna fight him. But my point is
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: in these fights, not this specific fight. Always right, talking
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: about this scenario, because I think in this fight, Bam,
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: would you know if he lost, he would get a rematch? Right?
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: But my thing is, so if the person you want
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: to win loses, does that the fighter who beats that fighter,
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: do they get that fight then? Because to me that
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: that opens it up a little bit more. You know,
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: if Kathu pulled the upset, more likely it'd be a rematch.
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: Now I don't know if he had a rematch clause,
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I'm just trying to use these fights
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: as examples, different examples. And so if they, like I said,
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: if they if the person you want to win that's
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: already on the post or loses, shouldn't the fighter that
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: beat that per that you know said fighter, shouldn't they
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: get the fight? Then? You know, I'd be a lot
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: more into this is our plan. But organically shit happens,
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: Oh well, but no, more than likely it would mean
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: the rematch. Not every time though, because it all kind
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: of matters, like Parker and Dubois. You know, like if
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: Parker wins, I would you know, I could see him
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: getting that fight. But anyway, I like that fight. It's
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: a very interesting fight. And you know, I Fernando Martinez
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: is a really good fighter. You know, on paper, I
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: do favor Bam. That's not some kind of shocker, right,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: But I don't know, man, like Bam is just so talented,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: and you know, he has to be in your top
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: five pound for pound. Like I said, I'm not a
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: huge pound for pound this guy because I generally can't decide.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: I'm just you know, it starts to get to twelve
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: or thirteen or you know what I mean. So I
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: never really I've done him before, but I don't normally
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: do them for a variety of reasons. That's one of them.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: But Bam, man, it's just a lot of the things
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: that people would say about Loma. I think Bam has
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: perfected it, you know, and he does. I feel like
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: he's a little more capable of getting you out of there.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: He's he's he's just more sound overall. Like I said,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: he's kind of just I don't know. He's perfected that style,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: you know, and he's just better at it, and he's
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: just a better fighter. And I know a lot of
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: people think Lomachenko was, you know, one of the best
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: fighters of all time. I just don't. It's nothing against him,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: but I just don't. I just don't think he I'm
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: not saying he's not a Hall of Famer. I definitely
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: am not saying that. I think lomanch I Go is
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer, but I think he was just
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: you know, overvalued, and a lot of people saying, you know,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: husik Is is the Ukrainian that people should have been
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: focusing on instead of all these superlatives kind of going
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: over the top. You know, I got it. It got
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: to the point where, and I've said this before that
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: I think Loman's actually undervalue now because he was so
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: hyped up where you're like, some people kind of got
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: sick of it, like dude, why do you keep saying this?
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: You know? But it is what it is, Like I
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: you know, I just I really like bam Man. The
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: guy is just all purpose a great fighter, and I'm
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: looking forward to his next fight now this weekend, the
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: last card with Top rank and Espnist is part of
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: that deal. Hopefully they'll be you know, announcing something. As
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: far as their deal, they did say, you know, no August,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: maybe no September. Didn't they say in September. They're gonna
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: knowunce their deal or deals plural. There's been rumors of
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: the Zone. There was rumors of HBO Max or HBO whatever.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: There's been rumors. You know, I think to Zone, any boxing,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: especially in the US, any any I just think they'd
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: give them dates, you know what I mean, because their
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: goal is just to be the hardcore boxing app basically,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: and there's nothing wrong with that on a hardcore you
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. But I'm just saying that I
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: do think they could get a deal with the Zone.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: We'll see where they ultimately end up. You know. It's
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: not that I don't want them on the Zone per se,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: because you know, if the fights get made, the fights
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: get made, that's awesome. But would I be mad if
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: they ended up someplace else? No, I wouldn't, you know,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: So we'll see where they go. I'm not gonna you know,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: I've heard things. I've heard some things, but I'm not
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: gonna you know, just uh, I don't know. Some people
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: think they don't they don't have a deal, and they're
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: not going to get a deal, and they'll come beg
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: into the ZWN whatever. You know, I'll keep an open
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: mind on the scenario and hope for the best as
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: a boxing fan. You do have Bruce Carrington on this card.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: You have Pilanco on this card. You have a certain
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: heavyweight fighter that seems to be more interested in being
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: an amateur fighter. I think everybody knows. You have the
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: young Vargas on it. But the biggest fight, that most
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: interesting fight is xanders as in Jor Perez, Jorge Garcia Perez,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: I should say. And you know, like his last two
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: fights I thought were pretty impressive, especially the Conwell Charles
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: Conwell fight. You know, I I for one did not
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: see that coming. I didn't pick that. I think I
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: had it seven and five. I think all the judges
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: had a seven and five as a split decision. So yeah,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: this this dude's a good fighter. And Xanders Ayez. You know,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: he's been moved along at a certain pace. At times
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: he's kind of stumbled into I don't know, other times
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: he's looked fairly good, you know, And so this is
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: a good moment for him to kind of really show
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: show himself because he should win this fight. He is
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: the favorite. I do think he will win the fight.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: And you know, it's it's been a little while now
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: since he's been since he's looked kind of mediocre in fights.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: You're always gonna have certain fights where you don't look
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: as good, you know, on the way up. We're seeing
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: him more and more now, and a lot of these
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: prospects are getting judged earlier than they normally would. To
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: an extent, I do like the way he has been moved.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: I will say that every fighter you know can't be
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: he can't move each fighter, you know, the same way, right,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta take your time sometimes and so
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: and so that that part of it. I thought. I
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: thought Top ran pretty usable, you know, moved him, moved
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: him pretty well, and so I think it is his
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: time to win this fight. Will he win by knockout?
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: You know, I don't know he could obviously, but I
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: wouldn't just for sure bet on it. You know, I'm
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: kinda I don't know, I'm kinda I'm trying to look
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: at these damn odds. But something's up with this damn
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: it trying to look at these odds. But that's not
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: my internet. I think it's this website, and it's it's
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: different than pro boxing ods by the way, although they
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: haven't been updating their their stuff lately. I will say that,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: but the last time I saw him, it was in
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: the plus two hundreds, like two fifty or he was
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: the underdog. If you look at like just talking about
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: this weekend the night before, I think it's is that
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: on Friday the Reese? Uh but Ballatti? Is that? How
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: you to say that? Ryan Garner, that's a close fight.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't doubt if Reese pulls up it'd be a
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: somewhat minor upset. I see him, you know, in the
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: plus one thirties plus one seventies. You also have Clariso shields.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: I don't think she'll have much problem. Same with Bruce Carrington,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: close of shields fights. I don't think she'll have a
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: problem at all. So, you know, besides, I think that
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: those two fights I mentioned are probably the closest odds wise.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: All Right, it looks like this the site's gonna let
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: me in. I don't know what's going on with it,
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: just trying to get the you know, get the by
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: decision by knockout stuff kind of labeled down here. I
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: don't know what's going on with this, but yes, Ander,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: you know, like I said, I think he's a fine fighter.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: I'm interested to see how he performs in this fight
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: and then where he goes from from here, because that could,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: you know, have a lot to do with where Top
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: rank goes. And it's been a lot more hush hush lately,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: but you know, you've heard talks like I mentioned of,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: you know, a variety of things. We're gonna have three
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: outlets down to it. You know, I've even heard people
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: talk about I think if someone said this I brunch boxing.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: I can't remember it was on brunch boxing. Maybe it
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: was Matt he said that, you know, he's heard rumors
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: of Top Rank's gonna sell and just get out of
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: the game, which I wouldn't be one shocked at that,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: just because you know it has been rumored prior. We've
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: heard that with Golden Bulls. Shit, even matchroom is is
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: docked about that before, like, hey, you know if someone's
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: if someone buys me out or something, you know that
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: could happen. Yeah, something's up with this betting website for
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: some reason. Every once in a while it just gets
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: funky and it's just freezing up, you know, in the
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: sign and process that you get in there, and it
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: just like I said, it just freezes up. So I
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: don't know what's up with that. I haven't made a
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: bet on it yet, but I'm thinking decision for as Iaz.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: Like I said, the Zone has multiple shows this week,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: some of them, you know whatever. Some of them might
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: be really good, you know, Fantasy Springs Resort and Casino
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: Flores Chavez Pierce and Das Marinas that's from Atlanta actually,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: and uh Osha Jones is on that. Who else that
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: actually might be a good card that's on that's Friday night.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: Domingo's Rojas is on his own as well. I think
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: that's part of the Yeah, that's different. Yeah, Gardener, you
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: know on paper Gardener Bloody is is definitely the that's
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: on his own, that is during the afternoon. I looked
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: at that wrong. That is during the afternoon. So yeah,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: nothing to like go crazy about. But but I think
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: that Xanderzayez is going to you know, separate himself, and
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: like I mentioned, you know, you have fights like Dowerte
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: Simms Junior and you know, uh Nick Ball and Sam Goodman,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: like you have some ray Ford like you know, like
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: I said, Moses and Dillion White, that being on pay
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: for you is just silly. Kergovic and uh David Adeleine.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: You know you have some fights. I'm not saying there's
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: no good fights at all, it's just, you know, until
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: Canelo Crawford, you know, it does overall get dry, especially
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: when you compare it to you know what we got
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: in July. We always kind of knew this, but when
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: you look like Matchroom and PBC and Top Rank, and
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: it's just there's not a lot on the schedule right now.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: And maybe that Vronte fighting, you know, his fight's gonna
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: get pushed. I've heard maybe October, but I don't know. Okay,
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: So as we kind of wind down the show, you know,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: Turkey came out and he was like, you know what,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: basically coming off like a it's like during the week
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: of a pay per view, you know. So that's what's
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: kind of makes you scratch your head because you're like, what, okay,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: so you're saying it ruins the sport, but hey, by
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: the way, you know, anyway, he said, great meetings with
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: my brother Shay CEO of his own. We have big
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: vision to grow boxing. We have big visions to grow
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: boxing and decide we have basically decided no more pay
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: per view. Starting with our Ring magazine show in November,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: all Riot season and Ring events will be free to
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: disone subscribers. The pay per view model has damaged boxing
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: and will no longer and we will no longer support it.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: We are with the fight fans. Right. So he's saying
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: no pay per view, it's done nothing, no more pay
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: per view, right, And you're like, Okay, well that's cool,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: you know, like all right, you know, do I do?
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: I still think what I talked about last week would
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: be a positive, you know where you know, I talked
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: about how the Zone has a deal with you know,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: soccer rights deal and TNT and HBO Max and you know,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: seeing like the Zone and tn T, you know, like
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: partnering up there to where I saw a lot of
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: his own stuff watching soccer here in the summer, and
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: I was like, okay, you know that tournament and whatnot.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: I'm not a big soccer fan, but they're a football fan,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: you know. But like, you know, to secure even a
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: decent rights deal, or, like I said, a time buy.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: Since you're willing to put up all this money, I
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: just don't see how that'd be a bad thing. Now.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: I understand Saudi has a large investment in his own
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: and twenty thirty, they probably want that to be their
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: worldwide streaming platform that they do this on, and maybe
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: they'll get money or do deals with you know, other
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: broadcasts like the TNT thing, and that's you know that'll
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: be in twenty thirty, you know, I don't know. But
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: it's just so he says, no more pay per views done.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: It's real. It's really it's it's hurt. It hurt the sport.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: You know. So you go from saying, you know what,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: my bad. You know it the pay it damaged boxing.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: It did the payrew model has damaged boxing. Well, you
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: know when you do three in a seven day stretch,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: that's when it really damages boxing. Right. But then then literally,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: I think the next day, if I remember correctly from
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: last week, all of a sudden, the Zone puts this,
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: uh you know, it puts out this press release and
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: they're talking about you know, ring magazine cards, reout season.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: You know it's actually not gonna be just you know,
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: all part of your subscription. It's it's this in app
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: monthly subscription called the Ring Pass. So wait what like
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: so it's a subscription within your subscription, so it kinda
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, like signing up for the Zone
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: Like if you if you signed up for an annual
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: Zone package, just straight up, you would have gotten this
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: pay per view for you, this one, this last one.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: And then I think if you just did the paper
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: on its own, you have seven days of his own boxing, right.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: But this is the press release. Okay. You know you
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: talk about collaborating, You talk about Turkey and Rheon and
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: Ring and Queensberry match from Golden Boy, many more, delivering
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: the biggest names, the most iconic venues, unforgettable nights that
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: reach millions across the world. Now we're entering the next phase.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: As reported by several let's we hope to launch in
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: the future, the Ring Pass, a premium global monthly subscription
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: backed by the Zone rehad season the Ring one simple subscription,
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: every fight, all pay per views included. That's our ambition.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: We're currently shaping the details, working closely with the partners
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: to bring this to life, with the goal of making
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: boxing easier to access, simple to follow, and better value
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: for the fans who want everything. Okay, so one they
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: call it the ring Pass, one simple subscription, so that
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: even sounds weird too, So you mean, are there gonna
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: be tears? So you're already a subscriber, then you got
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: to pay a little bit more or is it you
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: just pay more for your subscription. Either way, it's it's
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: kind of weird to be like, no more pay views.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: But then they say one simple subscription every fight, all
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: pay per views included, so therefore you're not in this
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: press release. It makes it sound like you're not stopping
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: the pay per view. The pay per views done the
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: damage to the sport, right, that's what he said, But
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: we're still going to happen or are you or are
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: you not? You know, so in that shade, dude even
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: you know had a tweet saying, you know, making the
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: sports the sport bigger, more accessive, right coming soon or
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: transitioned by you know one from a one off purchase
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: model to a monthly subscription. So that's two subscriptions, you know.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: And then like I said, okay, for hardcorees, we don't
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: want to pay for eight pay per views or whatever.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: A year, so we're gonna get a deal on it. Cool. Okay,
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: it's great for hardcores, but then again, like, how is
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: that going to make them? How's it going to grow
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: the sport? Because you're saying you're still gonna have pay
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: per views, but you can do one subscription or an
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: extra subscription and that'll cover the whole year. Like I said,
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: great for hardcores, no doubt, But what's that got to
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: do with growth? Then? And you know, he was on
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: the Boxing Voice, you know, talking about switching from pay
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: per view to regular dizone, which you know that's not
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: just regular dizone, But he said, what is the point
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: of subscribing if a normal man in my normal man
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: in my home. Oh, if I'm a normal man in
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: my home and you make me pay ten to fifteen
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: pay per views on top of the subscription for eighty ninety,
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: what's the point of my subscription? Well that's what we've
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: been wandering too in a sense, right, But you're talking
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: about ten or fifteen pay per views, so yeah, And
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: he went on to say some other stuff about, you know,
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: the growth and how this is going to grow the sport,
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: and I just how, like, how is this going to
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: grow the sport and the numbers he was talking about.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: It's kind of like, so you he was talking about
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: five anywhere from five to twenty million subscribers. That's what
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: this is the whole thing like in the UK and
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: the US. This this is what he said, right, he said,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: maybe we'll split the cards in three divisions, A plus
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: B and C. First of all, that's kind of weird marketing.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: That's a C product. You know, C will be charged.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: We'll charge it with the Zone with little money. Okay,
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: so one of our people just did a whole year.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: Now you're going to change the package. Are they going
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: to be able to do the little money or did
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: they already pay for that? You know what I mean?
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: The Bee will be middle money and with a lump
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: sum one time from the Zone and that's it. And
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: he goes on to say this will make does Zone
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: have a fan base in America and UK and around
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: the world? Oh and around the world. I didn't. I
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: didn't see that part to fifteen to twenty million subscribers
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: and this is good for both of us, good for
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: the boxing business and good for boxing. So don't they
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: already have over five million? Because I remember seeing the
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: American UK, and I thought he meant but it says
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: in around the world. So don't you already have between
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: that amount of money or sorry subscribers, don't you already
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: have that? I don't know. It's just kind of like,
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: so you're still gonna have pay per views the way
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: you say it, so this one fee you can get
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: all the pay views? Does he mean like you can
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: get those big fights. We're still gonna do those big fights.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: But if you don't pay that premium, then you can't.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: And then if you do have the pay per views,
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: are they still only on his zone or you're gonna
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: have them more accessible? I don't know. It makes it
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: feel like there's still gonna be pay per views. And
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: when you ask for a sub which is expensive for
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: the average subscription compared to other streaming outlets. And then
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: and I'm talking about the semi casual fight fan, right,
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: the casual, the semi casual. I like this spider, I
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: like that fighter. But I watched some fights throughout a year.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: Maybe I watch, you know, the semi casuals, or they'll
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: watch like, uh, like they're boxing fans. No doubt they
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: are boxing fans, but they may watch once a month
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: or something like that, twice a month tops. Like, it's
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: just hard beyond the hardcore of the hardcore. It's hard
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: to talk people into like, hey, dude, not only do
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: you have to be a subscriber, you have to be
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: you have to have a second subscription. But that'll cover
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: you for the full year, Okay, if you make it
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: priced right right away, like very inexpensive, kind of like
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: his own was when it first came out. When you're
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: really getting bang for your buck, Okay, that'd be different.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: But and ultimately I got to see the numbers and
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: what they're you know, what it entails right to make
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: the ultimate you know, review on it, to actually give
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: my whole thoughts on it. But it just doesn't I
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: don't get it, Like I don't you know. Don't you
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: already have like ten to fifteen to twenty million subscribers worldwide,
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: that's what the reports say you're talking about we'll have
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: five to twenty million people. Are you talking about the
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: new subscription or are you talking about overall? You know,
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: it's just it's it's weird and to go from no
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: pay per views to this the next day. It's it's
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: just like dude, what what kind of business are you
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: guys running? And then a little follow up on the
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: soccer right steal. I don't know if people missed it
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: or whatever, but I was watching TNT. I was watching
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: the tournament they had in the summer. It wasn't that
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: long ago. I'm not a big soccer fan, right, I
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: do watch it in the summer, you know, whether it's
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: Premier League or MLS or whatever. You know, some of
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: these tournaments, some of these you know, friendlies, national friendlies, whatever.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: And I just kept seeing the zone on the broadcast.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: It's either available on this or on the zone.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: So they and I looked into it more, and you know,
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: I just was I was given an example of, you know,
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: what they could do, whether it's time by or just
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: get a little, you know, a decent licensing fee. And
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: TNT does now now that they don't have the NBA,
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: they do have more money lying around. I'm not saying
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: they're gonna spend all the money that they'd spend for
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: the NBA. I'm just saying that you can't tell me
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: having it on TNT and HBO Max wouldn't be better
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: than just Zone. It's just just the sheer number of subs,
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: and you could say worldwide. If you always say worldwide, cool,
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: well let's go worldwide, then you know. And so I
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: don't know. I was just given an example of what
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: could possibly be. Now I did get I have gotten
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: a little information on the kind of like the the
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  Speaker 1: Ali Act revisited, the revival and how t k O
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  Speaker 1: and how this plays into it. Basically, they want to
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  Speaker 1: come up with their own belt, their own sactiony stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Doesn't sound like they're going to charge people fees. YadA, YadA, YadA.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta read the First of all, the bill hasn't passed,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm not saying it will pass. I think it
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  Speaker 1: will pass, but I haven't read the bill yet, and
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  Speaker 1: it's one thing to read it, and then it's another
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  Speaker 1: thing to ask questions to people that really know what
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  Speaker 1: everything is, you know, lawyers and all that shit. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to comment on it right now. I
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  Speaker 1: haven't read it, and so I think that wouldn't be
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  Speaker 1: a good way to go about it. Okay, let's see
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  Speaker 1: here did you do do? I did get a message
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  Speaker 1: for uh Nishant dev with the stoppage O for Evans.
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  Speaker 1: Someone messaged me saying it's like a screenshot of eleven.
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  Speaker 1: His stoppage generated more than eleven million views on Matchroom's Instagram,
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  Speaker 1: so he's three and zero. Watch out for him. I
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  Speaker 1: did go and check that out. I did see some
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  Speaker 1: brunch boxing talk about Premiere Boxing Champion has a huge
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  Speaker 1: Amazon Prime event tenably scheduled for September twentieth at the
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  Speaker 1: Crypto Arena in LA and it sounds like it wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: be a pay per view, it'd just be on Amazon.
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  Speaker 1: That would be great. That would be great. Obviously, they
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  Speaker 1: have some fights that were talked about. Ain't gonna be
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  Speaker 1: part of that August sixteenth card. Maybe that's thrown in there.
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  Speaker 1: Mertizz Martiz. How do you say that fucking guy's name?
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  Speaker 1: Why do I always fuck that up? Bachrum? I'll just
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  Speaker 1: say Martiz something like that. I don't know why I
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: can't say it. I should have it in front of
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  Speaker 1: me that way I can actually say it better. But
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  Speaker 1: I know him and Lubin basically they have till August fourth.
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  Speaker 1: According to Jake Donovan boxing scene story that I saw
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  Speaker 1: that it's formally basically Demando ericson Lubin. It's been formally
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  Speaker 1: announced and they have, you know, they they have to
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  Speaker 1: reach a deal or it's gonna be pers bid. So
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  Speaker 1: I really like that fight. Another fifty four pound fight
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  Speaker 1: that you know, I'm excited for. I think that's pretty cool. Also,
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  Speaker 1: I heard WBO, you know, order to fight intram light
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  Speaker 1: heavyweight but belt between Kelliam Smith and David Morrell. Morell
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  Speaker 1: just fought not long ago, obviously, and they have you know,
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  Speaker 1: thirty days or agreement to avoid per st bit all that.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good fight though. That's a really good fight.
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  Speaker 1: Josh Taylor also retire from the sport. I saw this
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: on brunch Boxing. I saw that first on them, then
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  Speaker 1: I went to his page. You know, damn good fighter,
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  Speaker 1: had a great career. I think that's that's pretty dope.
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  Speaker 1: I also saw that the WBO is set to order
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  Speaker 1: expected to order Usik versus Joseph Parker. If he keeps going,
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  Speaker 1: that's probably who I think he'll fight next. Looks like
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  Speaker 1: Zerdo had the surgery that he's been kind of I
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  Speaker 1: guess holding off. Here's a little boxing Twitter stuff. Adrian
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  Speaker 1: Delgado always been a fan of Van Rodriguez. He was
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  Speaker 1: there covering the fight, but seeing him live with something
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  Speaker 1: else pure poetry in motion in the ring, the footwork, pressure, combination,
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  Speaker 1: aggressive aggression and all live staying defensively sound, total package,
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  Speaker 1: all time great in the making with his prime a
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  Speaker 1: couple of years away. Yet, dude, that's well said. You
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  Speaker 1: know Adam at s in boxing, this is one of
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  Speaker 1: the examples. I have no idea how Cooley made cruiserway
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  Speaker 1: sixty pounds bigger and he doesn't look flabby at all.
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  Speaker 1: I disagree with that one. I disagree with that. Also
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  Speaker 1: saw that Jose Benavidez Senior said Turkey wants to meet
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  Speaker 1: your vivil to face Benavidez after the trilogy. Okay, well,
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  Speaker 1: wonder if the Turbia wins then then can he get him?
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  Speaker 1: Does he get the fight? Oh? I forgot to mention.
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  Speaker 1: Uh the Lopez Vargas fight. Uh it was a split draw.
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  Speaker 1: I believe that was from Pachenga. I did actually see
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  Speaker 1: that fight. That's probably you know, there's been a lot
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: of back and forth with the drug testing, with Hainey saying,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he wants him to start drug test now,
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: the body testing, Norman Jr. Saying Hey, we're gonna do
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  Speaker 1: it earlier than the normally people do. So you know
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  Speaker 1: I could see both sides like, hey, dude, I'm already
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  Speaker 1: going over, you know, because it's gonna be something like
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  Speaker 1: a twenty week testing period and usually it's about half
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  Speaker 1: of that. So I don't know. To me, it's just
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  Speaker 1: I can understand obviously why the Haines are worried about it,
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  Speaker 1: but in the same breath, it's like, is it in
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  Speaker 1: the contract? Is If it's not in the contract, then
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you. You know, I
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  Speaker 1: think it's nothing much do about nothing. I think this
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  Speaker 1: is what they do. They play the media, they do
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  Speaker 1: their thing, and that's what they do. This is part
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  Speaker 1: of their their stick. It's a great fight. It's not canceled.
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  Speaker 1: Hopefully nothing weird happens. I don't anticipate it anyway. I'll
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  Speaker 1: be back next week. I'm gonna shut it down. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I like when people message me. I appreciate always, whether
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  Speaker 1: it's good, bad, or ugly. Whatever. The David Morrell Calliam
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  Speaker 1: Smith fight. I do really like that fight. Hopefully that
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  Speaker 1: gets done. I know there Benevetez and uh Calliam Smith
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  Speaker 1: were in talks and they couldn't close the couldn't close
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  Speaker 1: the gap. I guess Eddie Hearing said financially, so I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what he would he get more to fight
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  Speaker 1: benevide you know, morel than Benevidez. I don't think so.
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  Speaker 1: But whatever, anyway, it does put you in the interim
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  Speaker 1: status whatever that means really, because it doesn't make you
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  Speaker 1: Mando next. I don't believe so. Anyway. Anyway, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: get out here, enjoy the fights this weekend. See you
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  Speaker 1: next week. Bas