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"If Fauxcahontas Sais it...." (Monday, March 09, 2026, Hour 4) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Chalk radio, just the way your mother used to make it.
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  Speaker 1: First thing Today by Joe Thomas on the Talk Media Network.
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  Speaker 2: thank you for letting me be of service to you
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  Speaker 2: this morning. I want to be wherever you may be.
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  Speaker 4: you this program. You are the singular most important local
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  Speaker 2: We were talking.
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  Speaker 4: I've got an email about hate speech, and I think
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  Speaker 2: That's a good point.
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  Speaker 4: John's down there on the Treasure Coast as well, listening
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  Speaker 4: to WTTV at fourteen forty. How are you doing this morning, John,
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  Speaker 4: I'm still vertical amen too.
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  Speaker 2: That my brother. So what's on your mind?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, as a disabled veteran, I'm sitting here thinking the
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  Speaker 5: what IF's, you know, the possibilities. What if the crazy
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  Speaker 5: Iranian people who are the ones that are left, the
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  Speaker 5: nut jobs, what do they start sending conventional missiles with
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  Speaker 5: conventional explosives but in his warheads? What do they start
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  Speaker 5: sending waste radiological materials to render wherever areas that you
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  Speaker 5: hit in Israel unusable for years.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's one of the concerns.
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  Speaker 4: That was one of the big concerns is, Oh, we're
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  Speaker 4: just enriching uranium for power plants. No evidence of any
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  Speaker 4: power plants being built, but they're enriching the uranium, and
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  Speaker 4: you can make a dirty bomb. You don't have to
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  Speaker 4: have ordinance to deliver a nuclear fallout zone. People are
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  Speaker 4: the times in all of Christendom, to have the Department
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  Speaker 4: such a thing.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think so?
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  Speaker 5: Oh? Absolutely, it is absolutely maniacal that they have done this. Well,
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  Speaker 5: trying to hold our entire everything about the United States
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  Speaker 5: holding a sausage.
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  Speaker 4: Nineteen seventy nine. All over again, Thank you, John, I
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  Speaker 4: appreciate it, Sir, God bless.
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  Speaker 5: Bless you too, Joe, and thanks for the wonderful job
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  Speaker 5: you're doing well.
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  Speaker 4: Kosovo President Vosha Osmani has dissolved parliament and called for
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  Speaker 4: geopolitical situation is complex, it is important to finish this
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  Speaker 4: electoral process which is coming up. It's very hard now
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  Speaker 4: to imagine what will happen next. The Trump administration defended
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  Speaker 4: Russian oil. According to Ambassador to the UN Mike Waltz
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  Speaker 4: and Energy Secretary Chris Wright, who were making the tour
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  Speaker 4: pressure caused by the Iranian activities around the Strait of
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  Speaker 4: dollars of barrel as of close of trade over the weekend.
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  Speaker 4: Trump was interviewed and said the decision on when to
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  Speaker 4: end this war with Iran will be made jointly with
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  Speaker 4: Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin net and Yahoo. Meanwhile, in celebration
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  Speaker 4: next leader of the country, Mojatpa Khamani, who is the
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  Speaker 4: son of the now deceased Ayatola Iran, took the occasion
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  Speaker 12: Isn't that hypocritical? Listen to this.
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  Speaker 2: Graduate you actually can you run a campaign?
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  Speaker 4: And so there's Bernie Sanders talking about oh and you see,
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  Speaker 2: It's the idea that.
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  Speaker 4: Well, Donald Trump doesn't do it. Well, you know that's
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  Speaker 19: The thirty thousand people, I think I'm going to be
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  Speaker 19: Thirty thousand people are waiting. That's the only way you
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  Speaker 19: can get around. No apologies for that, that's what it can.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would never wait in a waiting line with
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  Speaker 4: thirty thousand other people trying to get through the airport.
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  Speaker 4: to help get that going. The Department of Homeland Security,
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  Speaker 4: John Stutts great reports available now on social media and
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  Speaker 4: his website, John Sutts dot com.
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  Speaker 2: I'll share it. We get a second.
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  Speaker 4: Bernie Sanders row Kanna just last week introducing another bill
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  Speaker 4: that would tax billionaires at a higher rates than that.
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  Speaker 4: And I mentioned this in a law to say, you know,
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  Speaker 4: it's because it works, John, I mean it works on
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  Speaker 4: the regular people who just are trying to get on
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  Speaker 4: with today.
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  Speaker 20: If your old graduate of Columbia or Berkeley today, you
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  Speaker 20: actually think that the entire tax code is rigged to
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  Speaker 20: enrich the super rich at the expense of the poor
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  Speaker 20: in the middle class.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's intentional. And obviously your research doesn't point
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  Speaker 4: to what intent there is in how.
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  Speaker 2: This data is used.
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  Speaker 4: Data is just it's just an inanimate object, and how
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  Speaker 4: somebody manipulates it is on them. And especially if you
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  Speaker 4: leave this inconvenient truth, I'll use that phrase. Nobody's used
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  Speaker 4: that before. I'm sure to show that these wealthy people
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  Speaker 4: are good for an American economy. I mean these and
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  Speaker 4: maybe it's it's almost jealousy because I watch these political leaders, John,
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  Speaker 4: and they behave like they want to be shark tank.
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  Speaker 4: They want to invest in the things they want to
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  Speaker 4: invest in They want to be like venture capitalists.
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  Speaker 2: So these folks who.
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  Speaker 4: Actually do invest in things, the ones who make great
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  Speaker 4: wealth and then you know, share it with innovators and
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  Speaker 4: pay people for their inventions and things like that, and
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  Speaker 4: invest or even just invest in mutual funds and other
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  Speaker 4: you know, stock market portfolios that help people grow and innovate.
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  Speaker 4: I have to be the bad guys, because why else
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  Speaker 4: would we turn to the government for back looking for
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  Speaker 4: a project if there's actual free money out there from
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  Speaker 4: a wealthy person.
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  Speaker 20: Well, we got quite an object lesson in this that
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  Speaker 20: took twelve years to write and was published in nineteen
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  Speaker 20: fifty seven. It's called Atlas Shrugg.
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  Speaker 2: Without a question it is.
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  Speaker 4: And John Gult is right there on John Sutt's shoulders
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  Speaker 4: as he gets through this.
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  Speaker 2: Are you sending this?
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  Speaker 4: You mentioned a think tank before was kind of helping you.
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  Speaker 4: You had applied for grants with this. Is this something
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  Speaker 4: that we could see in the hands of if not
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  Speaker 4: President Trump and Scott Bessen or somebody in Washington with
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  Speaker 4: some power to make this, or Caroline Levitt even to
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  Speaker 4: make these points.
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  Speaker 20: I hope it filters up the think tank that I
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  Speaker 20: want to thank for commissioning me to do these infographics.
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  Speaker 20: I credit them at the lower rate of the Each
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  Speaker 20: graphic is the Committee to Unleash Prosperity in DC and
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  Speaker 20: you can look them up. They're linked at the top.
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  Speaker 2: Of the page.
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  Speaker 20: So I certainly hope that my little contribution can travel
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  Speaker 20: and start holding these organizations and these individuals to account,
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  Speaker 20: because I can't imagine that they don't know that what
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  Speaker 20: they're peddling is a lie. It just is based on
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  Speaker 20: the assumption that we won't discover that what they're peddling
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  Speaker 20: is a lie.
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  Speaker 4: Is there anything you discovered in here that surprised you
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  Speaker 4: before I let you go?
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  Speaker 20: And well, I guess it's the Yes. There is one thing,
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  Speaker 20: and the thing is that there's been so little substantive,
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  Speaker 20: publicly visible pushback to this that roughly six and ten
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  Speaker 20: Americans now believe some variant of this lie. And it's
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  Speaker 20: just absolutely shocking. It's in section four of my report. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 20: due to a lack of public basing pushback, most Americans
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  Speaker 20: now believe some variant of this lie.
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  Speaker 2: That's the title of that section.
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  Speaker 20: And when I looked at that, I just realized how
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  Speaker 20: urgently needed this type of report is. So I hope
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  Speaker 20: that my report can help spur some some tough questions
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  Speaker 20: and hopefully some public pushback against these individuals and organizations
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  Speaker 20: that have massive influence and right now they're able to
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  Speaker 20: peddle this without any pushback.
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  Speaker 4: Well, as a dear friend of mine who's been elected
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  Speaker 4: to a few offices in his life says, on regular basis, why.
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  Speaker 2: Do they do it? JT?
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  Speaker 4: Because they because it works, and they do this, they
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  Speaker 4: do it, and they repeat it over and over again.
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  Speaker 4: It gets down into the echo chamber and it becomes
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  Speaker 4: just a sum. And it's not because we don't care.
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  Speaker 4: It's because we are busy. And if you only hear
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  Speaker 4: five seconds or ten minutes of an evening newscast and
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  Speaker 4: this happens to be one of you know, Elizabeth Warren
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  Speaker 4: speaking or Bernie Sanders, that's what you're going to think,
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  Speaker 4: is there? Because we give these office you know untoward gravity.
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  Speaker 4: Well again, it's John Sutz dot dot com or John
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  Speaker 4: Sutz on x as well if you want to get it,
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  Speaker 4: and I will share on social media as well at
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  Speaker 4: Seaville Joe Thomas on Facebook. John God bless you sir,
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  Speaker 4: and you have a great day.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. You too, Joe, thanks for having.
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  Speaker 4: Me, Terry writes in Joe, it makes sense if fifty
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  Speaker 4: percent of the population only pays three percent of the taxes.
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  Speaker 4: According to your guest, that's enough for anyone to win
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  Speaker 4: an election with. Just go out and demigogue everyone else.
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  Speaker 2: That's it. That's why they do it. And it's a lie.
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  Speaker 4: It's the same lie that Robespierre used to become king
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  Speaker 4: of France before he lost his head. It's the same
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  Speaker 4: lie that Lenin used. It's the same lie that Hitler used.
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  Speaker 27: Well, there are reports this morning that the Iranian Assembly
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  Speaker 4: Think about pardon me if I'm repeating myself, repeating myself,
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  Speaker 4: repeating myself. But this issue that Andy brings up is
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  Speaker 4: so important, this issue of how do you organize your
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  Speaker 4: business to And I know, technically it sounds like we're
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  Speaker 4: discussing avoiding taxes to what your Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth
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  Speaker 4: Warren talks about. But we here's the thing that people
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  Speaker 4: understanding that our community has needs and needs to pay
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  Speaker 4: for them. That is a patriotic duty without question. But
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  Speaker 4: you know where is it going? Where is the transparency
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  Speaker 4: taxation without representation? You might have heard of that. We
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  Speaker 4: were talking about Liberty University and they teach this, I
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  Speaker 4: mean as much as Hillsdale College. Liberty teaches this. The
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  Speaker 4: Scott writes in from Virginia Beach, Liberty spent a billion
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  Speaker 4: their their labs, their their research facilities. But one of
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  Speaker 4: the things they heavily invested in was Online Learning can
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  Speaker 4: I've tried, Oh I've tried. I've tried time and time
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  Speaker 4: again to get Liberty University to sponsor this program, but
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  Speaker 4: Oh I've told them all the places we are. Hey,
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  Speaker 4: you know what, if you have a degree from Liberty,
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  Speaker 4: you know the alumni association is always an important thing.
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  Speaker 2: A Liberty University degree and you love this program, drop
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  Speaker 4: You hear Hillsdale University all over the place, And of
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  Speaker 4: be even more bold about it than.
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  Speaker 2: Liberty University has.
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  Speaker 4: But thank you Scott for that text message on that
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  Speaker 4: Andy was on the line with us talking about this
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  Speaker 4: concept of how you organize your business so that you
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  Speaker 4: know you can avoid the payroll taxes our killer.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I always knew.
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  Speaker 4: Conceptually, it's just you know that they were because you're
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  Speaker 4: a conservative and you've studied economics, but when you sign
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  Speaker 4: the front of a paycheck, it really does change you.
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  Speaker 4: And now I do sign the front of people's paychecks.
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  Speaker 4: And seeing how much we pay in payroll tax, which
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  Speaker 4: is almost as much as we pay in payroll, it
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  Speaker 4: can kill a business. So that's right on the cost
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  Speaker 4: of being profitable or not. Never mind the other slings
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  Speaker 4: and arrows that might come, you know from out there,
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  Speaker 4: right Andy, I mean, this is one of the points
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  Speaker 4: you made.
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  Speaker 28: So the other thing that I keep circling back to,
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  Speaker 28: and and if people can like create their own liberty
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  Speaker 28: base to come and be by never first of all,
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  Speaker 28: never running a payroll, but have everything that you do
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  Speaker 28: is voluntary. And the basis for this could be constitutional.
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  Speaker 28: Money could start with the gift. And you know, if
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  Speaker 28: you figure out what what well, most people figured out
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  Speaker 28: by the time they retire, what they're good at.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's let's let's break that down the way.
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  Speaker 4: You've mentioned this a couple of times, and we have
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  Speaker 4: a little bit of airspace here, you know for this,
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  Speaker 4: because this is an important concept. So it as a
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  Speaker 4: business model, what you're saying is you bring somebody in
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  Speaker 4: as a volunteer to I don't know, do your books,
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  Speaker 4: and you gift them there the money that you would
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  Speaker 4: have paid them in a salary.
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  Speaker 28: Right, sure, and and but think of it as that's
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  Speaker 28: what do you think that's worth? Probably, but nineteen thousand
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  Speaker 28: dollars a week?
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  Speaker 2: Well I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I would love a job that paid me
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  Speaker 4: nineteen thousand dollars a week.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, but you're saying.
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  Speaker 28: You know that you start with the gifts, right, and
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  Speaker 28: then you you turn the the money fifty two times
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  Speaker 28: a year, right, so now all of a sudden, with
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  Speaker 28: one gift that gets turned into constitutional money because you
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  Speaker 28: know they haven't outlilted.
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  Speaker 28: But you know, as soon as they started like fractional banking,
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  Speaker 28: but also you know these continuing resolutions oh yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Well you know, and diluting the power. But this is
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  Speaker 4: why I want to but this is a really important
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  Speaker 4: concept to that you you know, we talk about and
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  Speaker 4: it kind of we lose grip on.
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  Speaker 2: It little bit.
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  Speaker 4: Andy, is that that you know, this is what's happening
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  Speaker 4: in the farm industry with Joel Saladon and those folks,
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  Speaker 4: and it's it's you know, and you know who's got
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  Speaker 4: this the nonprofits. This is why so many businesses now
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  Speaker 4: are organized as nonprofits. They learned from the CEO of
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  Speaker 4: of uh what is it Goodwill who makes multiple millions
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  Speaker 4: of dollars a year Bernie Sanders never goes after him.
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  Speaker 4: But but you set you set yourself up radio stations
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  Speaker 4: or nonprofits, food trucks or nonprofits.
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  Speaker 28: Those people own all those abandoned gas stations that they
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  Speaker 28: kind of look the other way when the well tanks
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  Speaker 28: underneath them like didn't get fixed whatever else.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, ethics are a different thing animal, right,
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  Speaker 4: But I'm just saying is that, you know, this is
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  Speaker 4: what the nonprofit world has learned for years is is
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  Speaker 4: you do it voluntarily and will give you a stipend
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  Speaker 4: on the side to you know, call it an expense
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  Speaker 2: Well, don't tell that my accountant. I said that on
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  Speaker 2: the air. By the way.
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  Speaker 28: The other thing that's kind of crazy. I was sitting
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  Speaker 28: with one of the world's wealthiest men in twenty fourteen.
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  Speaker 2: I was ever with.
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  Speaker 28: Lots of my Hegelian mistake, Marx's mistake. You know, she's
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  Speaker 28: still in this Charlotte Shill Areas. But one of the
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  Speaker 28: things where they were a couple. But one of the
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  Speaker 28: most amazing moments we had was when she was telling
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  Speaker 28: me how much Terry Holland, who was probably the greatest
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  Speaker 28: gentleman probably to come through that space, but along with
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  Speaker 28: Tony Bennett, they just she said that John Castine was
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  Speaker 28: hated by Terry Holland. Now, Terry Holland was a gentleman.
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  Speaker 28: And you had played basketball I think at Davidson and Hey, yeah,
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  Speaker 28: actual they recruited me when I was still in high school.
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  Speaker 4: I've only got a minute here, Andy, I've got to
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  Speaker 4: run suit, but yeah, I got to bring it in
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  Speaker 4: for a landing.
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  Speaker 2: You know what you're doing.
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  Speaker 28: But you know, I mean, these people are you know,
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  Speaker 28: they're evil and we just need to keep fighting them.
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  Speaker 2: Amen to that, my friend. You have a great morning.
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  Speaker 28: Hey, don't forget to stop at me sis when you're
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely, I love that idea. This Auburn, Auburn, Alabama, for you,
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