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Did Rose Tattoo's Frontman Settle a Decades-Long Australian Rock Feud Live On Air? (2009) · Classic Metal Show

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SPEAKER_02: Hey, it's Lauren Babich and you're watching CMS TV.
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SPEAKER_02: That's Rose Tattoo from their latest release called Blood Brothers,
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SPEAKER_02: and the name of that tune there is called Once in a Lifetime,
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SPEAKER_02: and this is a once in a lifetime chance, Chris.
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SPEAKER_02: We've got the legendary Australian vocalist, lead man for Rose Tattoo, Angry Anderson.
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SPEAKER_02: Welcome to the Classic Metal Show there, Angry.
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SPEAKER_02: Thank you, thank you, thank you.
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SPEAKER_03: Classic, and you know the first part of the word classic is class,
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SPEAKER_03: and you've just shown your class,
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SPEAKER_03: and of course you've just won me as
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SPEAKER_00: an immediate friend like a Like
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SPEAKER_00: a well-brought-up dog for the rest of your life by describing me as a vocalist.
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SPEAKER_00: In Australia,
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SPEAKER_00: when the band is advertised,
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SPEAKER_00: it says,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: on guitars, blah, blah, bass and drums, blah, blah, and Angry Anderson's throat.
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SPEAKER_00: And that started from,
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SPEAKER_00: I think it was one of our earliest managers' attempt at humour on the back of
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SPEAKER_00: the first album that we did.
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SPEAKER_00: There was a listing of what we all did and mine was throat.
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SPEAKER_00: And I'm sort of,
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SPEAKER_00: I suppose I'm not really thought as a vocalist as more of a,
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SPEAKER_00: I remember someone who once said to me,
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SPEAKER_00: I think it was a backhanded compliment, said,
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SPEAKER_00: you're not so much a great singer,
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SPEAKER_00: not so much a great voice, but you interpret a lyric well.
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SPEAKER_02: Sure.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, we've been doing this show for 13 years,
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SPEAKER_02: Angry, and we've had the likes of Tony Iommi and Geezer Butler and Rob Halford.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, we've climbed the ladder and we finally got to the pinnacle of having you on the show.
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SPEAKER_03: Like I said, an obedient dog.
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SPEAKER_03: I'll come and lay your lawn for you.
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SPEAKER_00: I've met.
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SPEAKER_00: It's been a great pleasure.
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SPEAKER_00: One of the things about being in a band like Rose Tattoo and having been around
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SPEAKER_00: for 30-something years and part of the belligerent part of our nature is
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SPEAKER_00: that we refuse to be dismissed and or treated with any indifference so
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SPEAKER_00: that we actually are going to be around for a long, long time.
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SPEAKER_00: Not physicality-wise,
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SPEAKER_00: because I think that, well,
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SPEAKER_00: I don't mean to make light of it,
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SPEAKER_00: but in the last few years,
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SPEAKER_00: three of our founding members have died,
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SPEAKER_00: and of course,
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SPEAKER_00: our original drummer,
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SPEAKER_00: Digger, he died in 1989, when I was attempting to reform the band.
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SPEAKER_00: I was actually living in Los Angeles then,
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SPEAKER_00: writing and recording an album of my own called Blood From Stone,
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SPEAKER_00: with a wonderful song,
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SPEAKER_00: Writer and guitar player over there,
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SPEAKER_00: Mike Slamer,
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SPEAKER_00: and I rang the guys,
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SPEAKER_00: I was hanging around with Axel and Slasher and some of the fellas,
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SPEAKER_00: some of the naughty boys from that,
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SPEAKER_00: a couple of,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: the guys,
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SPEAKER_00: we used to go to clubs, like,
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SPEAKER_00: with guys with the Motley and the LA Guns,
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SPEAKER_00: who still are a favourite band of mine, and,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: a few other bands,
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SPEAKER_00: and it was the blokes like,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: ran into a few people like the guys from Poison and,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: other bands,
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SPEAKER_03: and And anyway, they said, well, you should come over and play some shows.
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SPEAKER_03: So we did.
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SPEAKER_00: I rang up and got the boys on the phone and sort of said,
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SPEAKER_00: look, you know, let's reform even temporarily.
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SPEAKER_00: And that was in 1989.
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SPEAKER_00: And come over and play some shows.
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SPEAKER_00: But unfortunately, that year, our drummer was just coming off heroin.
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SPEAKER_00: And unfortunately, the nature of the addiction is that it had suppressed his tumours.
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SPEAKER_00: He didn't know that he had tumours.
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SPEAKER_00: And by getting off heroin,
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SPEAKER_00: getting on the methadone and then getting off methadone,
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SPEAKER_00: that allowed the tumors that were growing at the base of his spine and
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SPEAKER_00: in his shoulder blade,
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SPEAKER_00: as it turned out,
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SPEAKER_00: cancer tumors,
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SPEAKER_00: the heroin had kept them in check for years and they exploded within his system.
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SPEAKER_00: Within three months, of course, he was dead.
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SPEAKER_01: Wow, that sucks, man.
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SPEAKER_01: And then even recently as well,
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SPEAKER_01: that's one of the things I wanted to talk to you about,
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SPEAKER_01: was that two years ago, I guess, you lost two more members, correct?
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Two of the founding members, the original lineup was Ian Ryland's playing bass.
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SPEAKER_00: Of course, Pete Wells played slide.
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SPEAKER_00: And they had another guitar player and another drummer.
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SPEAKER_00: And those two quickly moved on once I got involved with the band.
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SPEAKER_00: And I became a singer.
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SPEAKER_00: So we actually formed the band around the three of us, Peter and I and Ian.
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SPEAKER_00: And I got my old mate up from Melbourne, Mick Cox.
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SPEAKER_00: He came in to play guitar in the band.
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SPEAKER_00: And the drummer didn't work out.
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SPEAKER_00: So I got Digger to come up from Melbourne.
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SPEAKER_00: They both played in...
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SPEAKER_00: Buster Brown with me.
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SPEAKER_00: Actually, Digger replaced Phil Rudd, who plays drums for ACDC.
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SPEAKER_00: He left Buster to go and join ACDC.
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SPEAKER_00: And Digger came in to fill his place.
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SPEAKER_00: And so the three founding members,
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SPEAKER_00: Peter and I and Ian,
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SPEAKER_00: both Ian and Peter died within months of one another, both of cancer.
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SPEAKER_00: Lobby Lloyd, another bass player that we had in 17...
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SPEAKER_00: For a while, he was a legendary guitar player in this country.
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SPEAKER_00: He actually is responsible, well,
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SPEAKER_00: we all give him credit for being responsible for inventing,
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SPEAKER_00: if you like,
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SPEAKER_00: the Australian guitar sound,
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SPEAKER_00: which ACDC and ourselves and all the other heavy rock bands
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SPEAKER_00: that Australia has produced use.
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SPEAKER_00: It's a peculiar,
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SPEAKER_00: it's nothing special, it's just a way, I think it's an attitude more than anything.
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SPEAKER_00: But it is a peculiar sound.
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SPEAKER_00: And he played bass in the band for about eight or ten months.
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SPEAKER_00: And he died just months after Ian.
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SPEAKER_00: And unfortunately, there's a couple of other really, really dear friends that we've lost.
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SPEAKER_00: But I think it's a sign of the times.
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SPEAKER_00: We're all getting on.
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SPEAKER_00: And these boys led pretty wild lifestyles.
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SPEAKER_00: And had, what I'm saying, not just a wild, but a good full life.
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SPEAKER_00: So even though they did go early...
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SPEAKER_00: It wasn't without leaving their mark.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, sure.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, Angry,
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SPEAKER_01: obviously, man,
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SPEAKER_01: over 30 years of doing it,
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SPEAKER_01: and it's got to be surprising in some ways to you,
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SPEAKER_01: because I know it is to me that after all of this time being Rose Tattoo
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SPEAKER_01: and putting out just stellar album after stellar album all the way down the road...
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SPEAKER_01: It's surprising to me that the band never really saw U.S.
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SPEAKER_01: fame with the exception of people discovering the music from other bands.
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SPEAKER_01: Like obviously the Guns N' Roses,
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SPEAKER_01: you know, doing Nice Boys is really what kind of broke the name in the U.S.
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SPEAKER_01: But are you surprised after all these years that the U.S.
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SPEAKER_01: market never, or even at that point in time, did not grab on to Rose Tattoo?
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SPEAKER_00: I think...
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SPEAKER_00: I think pretty much the simplistic and the most honest answer is that had
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SPEAKER_00: the band been able to stay together physically and spiritually,
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SPEAKER_00: I think, and we had to come back as was the plan.
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SPEAKER_00: We embarked on a five-year plan.
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SPEAKER_00: We went to Europe in the early 80s.
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SPEAKER_00: We based ourselves out of the UK and toured extensively through Europe.
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SPEAKER_00: Established a really big,
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SPEAKER_00: strong and loyal fan base there, which still exists today, 30 years later.
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SPEAKER_00: If it wasn't for us touring Europe every year, the band couldn't have sustained itself.
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SPEAKER_00: We went to America with the Scarred for Life album, which was
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SPEAKER_00: the first tour, I think it was 82.
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SPEAKER_00: And we toured with ZZ Top Through Europe, and so...
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SPEAKER_00: They wanted us to come and tour with them in America, which we did.
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SPEAKER_00: We toured with Aerosmith.
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SPEAKER_00: So we got a lot of great exposure,
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SPEAKER_00: and we played with two bands that we...
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SPEAKER_00: Classically,
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SPEAKER_00: they were two of my favourite bands,
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SPEAKER_00: and just about everybody in the band had them on their favourite band list.
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SPEAKER_00: So we got great exposure and great support.
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SPEAKER_00: There was a lot of problems within the band at that time.
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SPEAKER_00: There was, well, one, and then later, another guy battling...
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SPEAKER_00: And pretty much,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: if you're doing something like heroin,
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SPEAKER_00: the band has got a very, very strong anti-heavy drug usage stance.
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SPEAKER_00: So the players have to move on.
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SPEAKER_00: We basically,
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SPEAKER_00: in the four or five years that it took for us to get to America,
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SPEAKER_00: we'd toured extensively through here and through Europe.
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SPEAKER_00: And really,
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SPEAKER_00: I suppose,
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SPEAKER_00: in a sense,
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SPEAKER_00: wore ourselves out Although what was really taking its toll was the fact that
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SPEAKER_00: the five of us had, you know, we were all real problematic drinkers.
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SPEAKER_00: We all had a real,
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SPEAKER_00: real substance abuse problem and alcohol problem and the band sort
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SPEAKER_00: of became very disorientated and I think the pressures that were put on the band not
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SPEAKER_00: to be what the band was but to be a paler imitation in an effort not to frighten
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SPEAKER_00: The potential audience in America.
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SPEAKER_00: And it really wasn't within our scope, if you like, to water down who we were.
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SPEAKER_00: Because who we are is who we are.
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SPEAKER_00: We're just like that as people anyway.
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SPEAKER_00: And when we got together and played music, that's the music that came out.
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SPEAKER_00: So we would have had to have pretended to be something else.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: That wasn't our style,
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SPEAKER_00: but coupled with that was the fact that the band,
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SPEAKER_00: I think quite literally, just tore itself apart.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, the interesting thing is, you know, over in Australia, you guys are as legendary as ACDC.
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SPEAKER_01: I know a year ago we talked with Joel from Airborne,
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SPEAKER_01: And we made an ACDC reference to him and he immediately corrected us and said,
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SPEAKER_01: no, not ACDC.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, if we took anything, we took it from Rose Tattoo.
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SPEAKER_01: So it's obvious that the bands out there feel your influence.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm very flattered by that.
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SPEAKER_00: I think we love the boy.
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SPEAKER_00: We refer to Airborne as the kids.
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SPEAKER_00: We kind of see him as a sort of a, A younger version of ourselves.
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SPEAKER_00: I do see that people would very,
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SPEAKER_00: very much see the influences of ACDC there, particularly in their style of music.
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SPEAKER_00: We belong to a brotherhood, if you like, that came out of the Australian pubs.
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SPEAKER_00: Pubs here, they're like what you call bars.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, they're very big public bars and they usually have a room off to the side
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SPEAKER_00: where they have Well, in the old days, they used to have live music.
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SPEAKER_00: And, you know, it was a very predominantly young, predominantly male audience.
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SPEAKER_00: And it's a very, very tough proving ground for any band.
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SPEAKER_00: And the kind of ACDC grew up in the pubs.
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SPEAKER_00: We did Angels.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, the Angels, we know them as here, but Angels City over there.
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SPEAKER_00: There's a terrific band there called the Choir Boys.
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SPEAKER_00: And there's a string of other bands, including Airborne, Airborne.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, Jet is another band that's been over there.
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SPEAKER_00: The...
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SPEAKER_00: What's the name of the band?
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SPEAKER_00: Living End.
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SPEAKER_00: They've been to America and they've done very, very well there.
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SPEAKER_00: But they're all those kind of guitar-driven,
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SPEAKER_00: you know, maniacally sort of, you know, playing bands.
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SPEAKER_00: And I think one of the great things that's after 31...
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SPEAKER_00: And so it's nice to know that...
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SPEAKER_00: 30 years down the track,
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SPEAKER_00: what you believed in so passionately 30 years ago as an idealistic,
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SPEAKER_00: naive, younger man, was born out to be true.
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SPEAKER_00: We really did feel,
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SPEAKER_00: not in an egotistical,
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SPEAKER_00: bombastic way,
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SPEAKER_00: but we actually really did feel after the first couple of albums that,
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SPEAKER_00: hey, we're doing something that was going to leave a mark.
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SPEAKER_00: Like I said,
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SPEAKER_00: it's not an ego-driven thing,
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SPEAKER_00: it's just that The realisation that what we were musically,
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SPEAKER_00: we knew musically,
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SPEAKER_00: Peter always used to say,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: we'll never make it because,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: mediocrity is the biggest seller and he meant that in a sort of,
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SPEAKER_00: not in a derogatory sense,
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SPEAKER_00: but we were such an extreme band and we've always had,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: I think one of the things that's always stood in our way,
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SPEAKER_00: we don't write songs about chicks.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, Angry, let me ask you.
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SPEAKER_02: Having never been
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SPEAKER_03: a chick,
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SPEAKER_03: you know, they fascinate me, but they also fuck me up at every turn.
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SPEAKER_03: And I've never really, I've only just begun to sort of fully understand them.
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SPEAKER_03: Well, I don't fully understand them,
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SPEAKER_03: no man ever will, but at least I can come
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SPEAKER_00: to terms with them these days.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, how influential is Dave Evans and Rabbit over there in Australia?
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SPEAKER_02: Not very.
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SPEAKER_02: How much...
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SPEAKER_00: Although Dave, it's got to be the same Dave that you're talking about.
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SPEAKER_00: Dave is an extremely nice bloke.
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SPEAKER_00: He actually, I suppose you do know that he was the original singer for ACD.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes, of course.
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SPEAKER_02: We've had him on the show here,
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SPEAKER_02: but he touted his band Rabbit as being legendary there in Australia.
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SPEAKER_03: Oh, yes, sort of.
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Okay.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, you know, like a band called Rabbit, I mean, please, you know.
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SPEAKER_00: Call the band Rat, you know, or Wombat, or Weasel, or Rabbit.
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SPEAKER_00: I think, quite honestly, Dave was the best thing to come out of Rabbit.
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SPEAKER_02: Nice.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, how did the death of Steve Irwin affect you personally?
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SPEAKER_00: Steve was a lovely man.
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SPEAKER_00: We saw him become...
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SPEAKER_00: He was always larger than life,
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SPEAKER_00: and he was an institution, if you like, in Australia long before...
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SPEAKER_00: He went over there and was discovered, I suppose, in a sense, by America.
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SPEAKER_00: He became much larger.
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SPEAKER_00: He became almost like a cartoon character.
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SPEAKER_00: And I think that was, I certainly don't mean that as a criticism.
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SPEAKER_00: It's certainly just an observation.
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SPEAKER_00: But I think he was encouraged to be more over the top than he actually was
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SPEAKER_00: by whoever, you know, the empire building that was going on around him.
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SPEAKER_00: In America,
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SPEAKER_00: I think that one of the great things that I think
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SPEAKER_00: that Steve should always be remembered of is he was a genuinely real Aussie bloke.
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SPEAKER_00: He had a beautiful heart.
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SPEAKER_00: And I don't know.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't know whether he'd be so comfortable with certain things that have gone on
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SPEAKER_00: in his name, but that's not for me to say.
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SPEAKER_00: But we felt the loss here, sadly, because we knew him before he became Steve Irwin.
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SPEAKER_00: If you know what I'm saying.
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SPEAKER_00: Sure.
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SPEAKER_00: Like I said,
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SPEAKER_00: he was always a larger-than-life character,
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SPEAKER_00: but he was one of those,
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SPEAKER_00: he was right at the cutting edge,
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SPEAKER_00: he was right at the forefront of really starting to wake Australians up,
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SPEAKER_00: particularly kids.
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SPEAKER_00: He had a wonderful way of communicating with kids about the importance of the environment.
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SPEAKER_00: Australia is a delicately balanced environment and always has been.
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SPEAKER_00: Australia is that I don't think Australians at large have fully realised.
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SPEAKER_00: Deforestation,
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SPEAKER_00: I don't mean to get all too deep and meaningful but that's
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SPEAKER_00: a huge problem right around the globe at the moment and people have got to realise
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SPEAKER_00: that you've just got to quite simply stop doing things like that.
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SPEAKER_00: That used to be a non-issue in Australia and now it's become
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SPEAKER_00: and he was partly responsible for that.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, Angry,
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SPEAKER_01: I'm going to stay deep and meaningful for a second just because
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SPEAKER_01: when we were getting ready for this interview,
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SPEAKER_01: I found a quote that you had from last year,
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SPEAKER_01: which I applaud you as loudly and proudly as I can about your stance
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SPEAKER_01: on Muslim immigration.
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SPEAKER_01: And I'm going to read the quote here and then we'll talk about it for a second.
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SPEAKER_01: You were quoted,
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SPEAKER_01: and tell me if any of it's wrong too,
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SPEAKER_01: but you were quoted as saying it's not ill-conceived to look at certain people
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SPEAKER_01: and question when they come here.
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SPEAKER_01: We have strict quarantine laws and it should be the same when it comes to cultures
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SPEAKER_01: that do not want to integrate.
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SPEAKER_01: We should be careful about where certain Muslims come from and what they believe.
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SPEAKER_01: If you come here, you should behave yourself.
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SPEAKER_01: It's as simple as that.
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SPEAKER_01: If people come and live in any country and their way of life is so different
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SPEAKER_01: that they need their own special laws,
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SPEAKER_01: then possibly they have to pick somewhere else to live.
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SPEAKER_01: The idea of any Muslim being photographed for a passport or a license with one
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SPEAKER_01: of those shrouds on, sorry, it just can't happen.
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SPEAKER_01: That's what you were quoted as saying,
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SPEAKER_01: and A, did you say that, and B, congratulations if you did.
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SPEAKER_01: It's about time someone said it.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I did say that, and I said a lot more to besides.
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SPEAKER_00: I think one of the things that,
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SPEAKER_00: and I've I'm in a position where I am too,
19:10
SPEAKER_00: with dealing with lots of programs that deal with younger people and also I'm
19:15
SPEAKER_00: a recognised person in this country because of my work with television as someone
19:20
SPEAKER_00: who has an opinion.
19:21
SPEAKER_00: I have to be very...
19:23
SPEAKER_00: I'm not politically correct in any sense, so I'm not hobbled by that.
19:28
SPEAKER_00: The answer to that question is that I don't shy away from anything I said.
19:33
SPEAKER_00: I think that's a fair and honest and it's a very just...
19:37
SPEAKER_00: Representation of what I said and what I did say was honest and just.
19:42
SPEAKER_00: I don't preclude or exclude anybody but I have said for many,
19:47
SPEAKER_00: many years and it only is
19:53
SPEAKER_00: centred around this issue because it's such a hot issue at
19:56
SPEAKER_00: the moment in this country and I think in present light of the conflict in
20:03
SPEAKER_00: the East now And I think people are starting to focus on the fact
20:07
SPEAKER_00: that sometimes certain cultures can rub up against one another,
20:11
SPEAKER_00: but they can very easily rub one another up the wrong way.
20:15
SPEAKER_00: And I think what I have said and what I will not stand or shy away from or walk away
20:20
SPEAKER_00: from is that we have an established culture in this country.
20:24
SPEAKER_00: I do not want and I will resist any attempt by anybody to come here to influence it
20:29
SPEAKER_00: in an adverse fashion.
20:30
SPEAKER_00: I like the way the country is.
20:33
SPEAKER_00: I believe in the way the country is.
20:36
SPEAKER_00: Relatives in my family,
20:37
SPEAKER_00: male relatives, went and fought wars to protect the way of life in this country.
20:43
SPEAKER_00: And the thing about it is,
20:44
SPEAKER_00: if you want to come in here and live here,
20:46
SPEAKER_00: then don't come here and try and change the way we live.
20:49
SPEAKER_00: You come in here and adopt the way we live.
20:52
SPEAKER_01: Well, sure.
20:53
SPEAKER_01: Why do you think that it is angry?
20:56
SPEAKER_01: And obviously we see it here because of the obvious attacks on 9-11.
21:01
SPEAKER_01: But why do you think it is that since those attacks that everybody goes so far out
21:05
SPEAKER_01: of their way to try to be more nice to the Muslim population instead
21:11
SPEAKER_01: of actually doubting it because of what happened?
21:16
SPEAKER_00: I think because political correctness has made us all apologetic about our history
21:21
SPEAKER_00: and about who we are and how we came to be that way, and I reject that entirely.
21:27
SPEAKER_00: I'm not going to be apologetic.
21:29
SPEAKER_00: Australia as America is a great country.
21:31
SPEAKER_00: It's founded on a great democracy,
21:33
SPEAKER_00: on a democratic principle,
21:35
SPEAKER_00: freedom for all,
21:36
SPEAKER_00: which means particularly that there has to be a fairness and a justness as applied
21:43
SPEAKER_00: to that.
21:44
SPEAKER_00: The thing about it is what Muslim people,
21:47
SPEAKER_00: for good or bad,
21:48
SPEAKER_00: and I know that there's some wonderful people within the Muslim community,
21:51
SPEAKER_00: I've met them, what they've got to realise is their silence is deafening.
21:56
SPEAKER_00: They've got to speak up about the people who badly represent the Muslim community.
22:02
SPEAKER_00: The other thing too is,
22:03
SPEAKER_00: and this is a very,
22:04
SPEAKER_00: very important,
22:07
SPEAKER_00: I am not anti-Roman Catholic,
22:09
SPEAKER_00: but I don't agree with the way that the history,
22:12
SPEAKER_00: their history has I don't like the way they've manipulated governments and politics
22:17
SPEAKER_00: and some of the really negative things that they've done as well.
22:22
SPEAKER_00: So I am not biased against one religion or another.
22:26
SPEAKER_00: I do not like
22:38
SPEAKER_00: Anybody telling me, like for any one reason, how I should live.
22:43
SPEAKER_00: I'm a very moral person.
22:44
SPEAKER_00: I'm a very ethical person.
22:46
SPEAKER_00: I'm a person that is very, very patriotic.
22:48
SPEAKER_00: I love my country dearly with a passion that goes through to the very core of my being.
22:54
SPEAKER_00: I love freedom.
22:56
SPEAKER_00: I love the freedoms that men and women have fought and died for over many,
23:01
SPEAKER_00: many years,
23:02
SPEAKER_00: thousands of years,
23:03
SPEAKER_00: but particularly in both of our country's respective views over the last couple
23:07
SPEAKER_00: of hundred years Those rights have to be protected at all costs.
23:11
SPEAKER_00: And the thing about it is that if the two communities are going to exist,
23:17
SPEAKER_00: it can't be because we change to adapt to them.
23:21
SPEAKER_00: It has to be that we grow together.
23:25
SPEAKER_00: When I say we can't,
23:26
SPEAKER_00: I do not believe that any religious persuasion,
23:30
SPEAKER_00: and part of Islam is to convert the world to Islam,
23:35
SPEAKER_00: just as Roman Catholicism was Part of their mission on the planet was to convert
23:40
SPEAKER_00: the population of the world and have a look at what they did in Hawaii,
23:44
SPEAKER_00: have a look at what they've done in South America with the Spanish going there
23:49
SPEAKER_00: and coming head on in contact with the Mayans and the Aztecs etc.
23:55
SPEAKER_00: Brutality and slaughter in the name of God has never ever justified the kind
24:02
SPEAKER_00: of brutal and barbaric acts that have been perpetrated in the name of God no matter
24:05
SPEAKER_00: who you call God.
24:07
SPEAKER_00: Please, please, please don't hold up God as a shield, you know, to barbaric acts.
24:12
SPEAKER_00: You know, God,
24:13
SPEAKER_00: the whole concept of God is a thing about humanity and peace and love
24:17
SPEAKER_00: and understanding of one another,
24:19
SPEAKER_00: for one another, to one another, because of one another.
24:21
SPEAKER_00: And it's not about trying to convert me to your way of thinking.
24:25
SPEAKER_00: So, you know,
24:26
SPEAKER_00: my message to those kind of people is,
24:29
SPEAKER_00: well, don't come here and tell me how to live my life.
24:31
SPEAKER_00: I already know how to live my life.
24:33
SPEAKER_01: Right.
24:34
SPEAKER_02: Well, Angry,
24:35
SPEAKER_02: being that you're from Australia,
24:36
SPEAKER_02: I've got to ask you,
24:38
SPEAKER_02: do you think that Peter Garrett of Midnight Oil tried to steal your look?
24:47
SPEAKER_03: Yes, I think he did.
24:49
SPEAKER_03: And yes, I think it fell flat on its ass like it was predictably it was going to.
24:54
SPEAKER_03: I remember when I first came to Sydney to join the Tats,
24:58
SPEAKER_03: so we're talking about Sort of like late 75, that summer into 76.
25:07
SPEAKER_03: And then we were back and forth over the next few months down to Melbourne
25:14
SPEAKER_03: and coming back to Sydney to have more jams with more people.
25:17
SPEAKER_03: And we were always jamming with Pete and Ian and the other guys
25:22
SPEAKER_03: that eventually became the first line-up for Rose Tattoo.
25:25
SPEAKER_03: But in the meantime,
25:27
SPEAKER_03: we were getting out and seeing other people's And I remember staying with a friend
25:36
SPEAKER_03: of mine,
25:36
SPEAKER_03: a young lady who, well,
25:39
SPEAKER_03: at the time she was an exotic dancer and she lived in a house with a bunch
25:46
SPEAKER_03: of other exotic dancers.
25:47
SPEAKER_03: So, you know,
25:48
SPEAKER_03: it's always nice to sort of get up in the morning and there's like four
25:52
SPEAKER_03: or five very attractive young women walking around in very little,
25:58
SPEAKER_03: if anything at all.
26:00
SPEAKER_03: Which was one of the attractions to living over on the northern beaches where I've now settled.
26:08
SPEAKER_03: There's a local pub there,
26:09
SPEAKER_03: there used to be a local pub there called the Narrabeen and the resident band or one
26:15
SPEAKER_03: of the resident bands was the young Midnight Oil and the very young then
26:21
SPEAKER_03: and very long haired Peter Garrett.
26:26
SPEAKER_03: In fact there's a fabulous photo which Delightfully,
26:31
SPEAKER_03: journalists keep throwing back at him as the years go by of him on stage
26:38
SPEAKER_03: with his jeans just below his knees,
26:45
SPEAKER_03: cut-offs,
26:46
SPEAKER_03: bare feet and a striped top, very,
26:49
SPEAKER_03: very typical surfy look because the Northern Beaches are famous
26:55
SPEAKER_03: for their surf beaches and their surfers.
26:59
SPEAKER_03: Half of Australia's very famous surfers have all come from around the area which I live in.
27:04
SPEAKER_03: And there's Peter with hair way down past his shoulders,
27:08
SPEAKER_03: a thick mane of lovely, straight, light, long, blonde hair.
27:13
SPEAKER_03: And within a very few short months, my band, Rose Tat, started to play.
27:21
SPEAKER_03: And lo and behold,
27:23
SPEAKER_03: for no reason, I mean, I shaved my head because I was actually losing my hair.
27:28
SPEAKER_03: Right.
27:28
SPEAKER_03: At a very early age, in my 20s, like my late 20s.
27:32
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
27:33
SPEAKER_03: So I remember the day very, very clearly.
27:37
SPEAKER_03: Actually,
27:37
SPEAKER_03: the guy who nicknamed me Angry Anderson,
27:40
SPEAKER_03: a very colourful character around Melbourne,
27:43
SPEAKER_03: then a guy called Mangy Mick Malouzak,
27:46
SPEAKER_03: and he nicknamed me Angry after a rather amusing altercation that we had previously.
27:54
SPEAKER_03: But anyway,
27:56
SPEAKER_03: he shaved his head,
27:57
SPEAKER_03: as did I,
27:58
SPEAKER_03: because we both, well,
28:00
SPEAKER_03: we'd been drinking a lot of tequila at the time and both decided
28:05
SPEAKER_03: that we were not going to wait until we thinned and went bald because that was such
28:09
SPEAKER_03: an uncool thing to do.
28:11
SPEAKER_03: So let's shave our heads now before it happened.
28:15
SPEAKER_03: But yes, long story short, Peter Garrett copied and he was a dismal failure.
28:19
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I don't think, and I just, I love the man to pieces.
28:24
SPEAKER_03: He's a really lovely human being,
28:25
SPEAKER_03: and he now actually is a member of the federal government in Australia.
28:30
SPEAKER_03: So, you know,
28:32
SPEAKER_03: he sort of,
28:33
SPEAKER_03: I don't know,
28:34
SPEAKER_03: threw away a good promising rock career to be a politician,
28:36
SPEAKER_03: but hey, I don't judge other people, but I don't know.
28:41
SPEAKER_03: I just never really thought Pete had the shape of heads to be bald.
28:45
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
28:46
SPEAKER_02: Well, I had heard rumor,
28:47
SPEAKER_02: and mind you,
28:48
SPEAKER_02: this is only rumor,
28:50
SPEAKER_02: that I had heard that he attempted to actually change his stage name
28:54
SPEAKER_02: to Angry Garrett, but it just didn't have the same ring to it.
28:58
SPEAKER_03: No, actually, it wasn't Angry Garrett.
29:01
SPEAKER_03: It was Cranky Garrett.
29:06
SPEAKER_03: But you're right, it just didn't have the same ring.
29:08
SPEAKER_03: You know, and see, Angry Edison flows off your tongue.
29:11
SPEAKER_03: I mean...
29:11
SPEAKER_03: I think one of the things that's beautiful about being AA,
29:14
SPEAKER_03: apart from the fact that you're first on every list,
29:18
SPEAKER_03: is Angry Anderson's almost musical.
29:23
SPEAKER_03: My now current girl, who is the great lover of my life, apart from my daughter,
29:30
SPEAKER_03: she's a player.
29:31
SPEAKER_03: She plays guitar in a rock band.
29:35
SPEAKER_03: Just when I thought I wasn't going to meet the perfect woman,
29:38
SPEAKER_03: here comes a Harley riding,
29:41
SPEAKER_03: guitar slinging, beer drinking, beef eating woman who can swear as good as me.
29:48
SPEAKER_03: And throws a good right punch too, I might add.
29:52
SPEAKER_03: But, you know, she's quite a bit younger than me, which I don't hold that against her.
29:58
SPEAKER_03: Well, actually, I hold it against her every opportunity I get.
30:01
SPEAKER_03: But that's another story.
30:02
SPEAKER_03: But, yeah...
30:05
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, she thinks that the name Angry Anderson, of course, she's a young woman in love.
30:12
SPEAKER_03: I mean, she can't help herself, but she thinks it has music.
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31:34
SPEAKER_01: Well, Angry, obviously, man.
31:37
SPEAKER_01: You have a,
31:38
SPEAKER_01: I guess I won't call it new,
31:40
SPEAKER_01: but it's new here in the States album called Blood Brothers,
31:43
SPEAKER_01: which I'm tempted to say might be your finest work to date, man.
31:47
SPEAKER_01: It's really solid stuff.
31:49
SPEAKER_01: But it's not really new.
31:51
SPEAKER_01: It's been out for, what, a year and a half or so?
31:53
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
31:54
SPEAKER_03: No, yeah.
31:55
SPEAKER_03: I think that's a conservative, probably closer to two.
31:58
SPEAKER_03: But yeah, it's definitely been out, well, it's been out in Europe for a good year and a half.
32:06
SPEAKER_03: It's funny,
32:06
SPEAKER_03: and I love telling this story,
32:09
SPEAKER_03: with the last album that we did,
32:10
SPEAKER_03: we recorded it actually in Germany,
32:12
SPEAKER_03: an album called Pain,
32:14
SPEAKER_03: which has got about,
32:14
SPEAKER_03: I think it's got like 16 or 18 tracks on it,
32:18
SPEAKER_03: but it was a bit of a strange album because Rockin' Rob Riley was playing guitar in
32:22
SPEAKER_03: the band,
32:24
SPEAKER_03: and Pete was Well,
32:27
SPEAKER_03: you know, it was just before Pete got sick and wasn't able to tour anymore.
32:32
SPEAKER_03: And we recorded it there.
32:35
SPEAKER_03: And it was really,
32:37
SPEAKER_03: it was a situation where the record company wanted an album and the
32:42
SPEAKER_03: then management wanted an album.
32:44
SPEAKER_03: And we sort of basically knocked together a bunch of songs and ideas.
32:51
SPEAKER_03: It was almost like a jam situation.
32:54
SPEAKER_03: And that album came about, which is not a bad album.
33:01
SPEAKER_03: It was never released anywhere but Europe by the then German record company.
33:08
SPEAKER_03: It was distributed with SPV.
33:12
SPEAKER_03: And then Rob moved on to do something else musically.
33:16
SPEAKER_03: He's very, very heavily into country music at the moment.
33:20
SPEAKER_03: And Mick came back into the band and...
33:23
SPEAKER_03: We basically wanted to,
33:24
SPEAKER_03: we had the same problem with this,
33:26
SPEAKER_03: with the Blood Brothers album, that no major label would take it on.
33:30
SPEAKER_03: So I got myself, what, 60 grand more into debt and formed my own record label.
33:36
SPEAKER_03: So now at more fashionable parties,
33:38
SPEAKER_03: when I go to,
33:41
SPEAKER_03: you know,
33:41
SPEAKER_03: not in rock and roll circles,
33:42
SPEAKER_03: but doing my other corporate sort of stuff,
33:45
SPEAKER_03: and I'm able to say, oh, yes,
33:47
SPEAKER_03: I run my own label now,
33:49
SPEAKER_03: which, of course, is just another way of saying I'm more heavily in debt.
33:53
SPEAKER_03: But we formed a,
33:57
SPEAKER_03: well, myself and management formed their own label and brought it out independently.
34:03
SPEAKER_01: Excellent, Angry.
34:04
SPEAKER_01: Well, Angry,
34:06
SPEAKER_01: as you've made it very clear in this interview,
34:08
SPEAKER_01: you are very civic-minded and you're certainly proud of the country of Australia,
34:14
SPEAKER_01: as you should be.
34:15
SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
34:17
SPEAKER_01: With that in mind, I mean,
34:19
SPEAKER_01: do you ever walk the streets just looking to lay a hurtin' on the air supply,
34:24
SPEAKER_01: just give them a good kick in the ass for, you know, for being air supply?
34:27
SPEAKER_01: You...
34:34
SPEAKER_03: I like the way your mind works.
34:38
SPEAKER_03: I like people who don't think like the other.
34:42
SPEAKER_03: There's a minority of us that think in very abstract ways.
34:46
SPEAKER_03: When I say abstract, I certainly mean that in the nicest possible way.
34:52
SPEAKER_03: Eccentric, possibly, but abstract, definitely.
34:54
SPEAKER_03: But the funny thing about it,
34:56
SPEAKER_03: a few years ago,
34:57
SPEAKER_03: and this is going back three or four years ago,
35:00
SPEAKER_03: I spent some time with a young lady that I'd known from the old days in Melbourne.
35:07
SPEAKER_03: Actually, when I first met her, she was a child.
35:09
SPEAKER_03: Anyway, long story short, she grew up.
35:16
SPEAKER_03: So in the meantime,
35:18
SPEAKER_03: I got divorced and I was the older man and she needed an older man
35:24
SPEAKER_03: to basically lead her astray.
35:27
SPEAKER_03: It turns out that she is...
35:30
SPEAKER_03: Cousin to one of the guys in air supply.
35:41
SPEAKER_03: One of the things about being very supportive of your own kind,
35:46
SPEAKER_03: no matter what they end up doing,
35:48
SPEAKER_03: a little river band,
35:49
SPEAKER_03: the Aussies,
35:50
SPEAKER_03: it's not my kind of music,
35:52
SPEAKER_03: but the fact that they were Aussies and that they made good.
35:56
SPEAKER_03: It was a huge delight for all Aussies.
35:59
SPEAKER_03: We took great pride in the fact that Little River Band went to America and did
36:03
SPEAKER_03: so well, as did Air Supply, as did Savage Garden.
36:09
SPEAKER_03: Not exactly my kind of music, but hey, you know, two Aussie boys made good.
36:14
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
36:15
SPEAKER_01: Right.
36:16
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
36:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
36:17
SPEAKER_03: Well, Angry being that... That's as diplomatic as I can possibly be, by the way.
36:23
SPEAKER_03: I'm grooming myself for politics.
36:25
SPEAKER_03: Pete has inspired me.
36:27
SPEAKER_03: I remember years and years ago when we used to sit around and,
36:31
SPEAKER_03: you know,
36:32
SPEAKER_03: Pete was known to inhale in those days,
36:36
SPEAKER_03: but we did sit around and used to,
36:38
SPEAKER_03: we used to politicise and philosophise and we used to talk
36:42
SPEAKER_03: about all things political and philosophic in those days,
36:45
SPEAKER_03: as you do when you're young and passionate about all things and,
36:50
SPEAKER_03: you I remember saying to Pete,
36:53
SPEAKER_03: and it was almost kind of, it's very spooky, actually, it's very spooky.
36:56
SPEAKER_03: I said, you know, Pete,
36:59
SPEAKER_03: classically trained barrister who passed the bar when he was very young,
37:04
SPEAKER_03: blah, blah, blah.
37:05
SPEAKER_03: I said, you know, I can see you one day being a politician.
37:08
SPEAKER_03: And he said,
37:10
SPEAKER_03: you know,
37:10
SPEAKER_03: the way that you care and the way that you look at life,
37:15
SPEAKER_03: he said, you know, I could see us both going into politics.
37:19
SPEAKER_03: And I said, no.
37:21
SPEAKER_03: I said, you'll be the guy in there with the gown and the wig.
37:24
SPEAKER_03: And I said, and I'll be the guy out chucking rocks on the roof.
37:30
SPEAKER_03: And I think that's, I think that's, Pete has gone legitimately into federal politics.
37:35
SPEAKER_03: He's, he is now a federal member of the, of the now governing body, the Labor Party.
37:44
SPEAKER_03: And, and I'm still,
37:47
SPEAKER_03: you know,
37:48
SPEAKER_03: flogging my,
37:50
SPEAKER_03: as a cheap,
37:51
SPEAKER_03: As a shameless hussy, I'm flogging my arse around in a rock and roll band.
37:56
SPEAKER_02: Excellent, Angry.
37:57
SPEAKER_02: Well, Angry,
37:59
SPEAKER_02: we've been doing the classic metal show for 13 years now,
38:03
SPEAKER_02: and Chris has always been known as the angry one of us as a partner here.
38:13
SPEAKER_02: And in the spirit of the new album from Rose Tattoo,
38:17
SPEAKER_02: Blood Brothers, I was going to ask you a favor if perhaps you could possibly...
38:24
SPEAKER_02: Christen or deputize or maybe even,
38:27
SPEAKER_02: and being that you're rock royalty in our eyes anyway,
38:30
SPEAKER_02: maybe Knight Chris as maybe Angry Aiken.
38:37
SPEAKER_03: I can most assuredly do that.
38:42
SPEAKER_03: Actually, he could be like the Sheriff of Nottingham.
38:44
SPEAKER_03: Right.
38:46
SPEAKER_03: You know, to my Prince John.
38:51
SPEAKER_03: So we're going to do this for a recorded piece, are we?
38:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, right now, on the air.
38:56
SPEAKER_02: Just dub him, say a few words and dub him Angry Akin, officially Angry Akin.
39:05
SPEAKER_03: So what's his full name?
39:07
SPEAKER_01: Chris Akin.
39:09
SPEAKER_03: A-I?
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SPEAKER_02: A-K-I-N.
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SPEAKER_02: It's A-K-I-N.
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SPEAKER_03: Chris Akin.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_03: All right.
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SPEAKER_03: All right.
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SPEAKER_03: Chris Aiken, kneel as Chris Aiken.
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SPEAKER_03: When you arise, you will be the dark prince of disorder, the dark prince of chaos.
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SPEAKER_00: I dub thee, Chris Aiken, angry, the dark prince.
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SPEAKER_02: Excellent.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, Angry,
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SPEAKER_02: I've got to tell you,
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SPEAKER_02: it's been a real pleasure having you here on the Classic Metal Show.
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SPEAKER_02: I've got to tell you,
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SPEAKER_02: in the 13 years we've been doing the show,
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SPEAKER_02: you are definitely at the top of the list as far as guests are concerned.
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SPEAKER_03: Thank you, mate.
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SPEAKER_03: I would love to,
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SPEAKER_03: and I can't say with 100% assurance,
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SPEAKER_03: but it's looking pretty damn good that we're coming over there to do
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SPEAKER_03: a series Possibly only for about three weeks,
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SPEAKER_03: and we're going to do a run up the east coast and a run down the west coast,
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SPEAKER_03: and maybe a few points across the country,
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SPEAKER_03: but we're looking at two to three weeks in duration,
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SPEAKER_03: as we're just going to sort of come and test the water, so to speak.
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SPEAKER_03: Do you think that there would be any opportunity for us to get together on the show?
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SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
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SPEAKER_01: The door is always open, Angri.
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SPEAKER_03: Well, thank you very much,
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SPEAKER_03: gentlemen,
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SPEAKER_03: because after having shared what can only be described as intimate moments,
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SPEAKER_03: I feel that the next step,
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SPEAKER_03: of course,
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SPEAKER_03: is that we actually create some truly wonderful mayhemal moments,
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SPEAKER_03: and that's come out and visit you live,
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SPEAKER_03: apart from the fact that you'll have to come and see the shows, or some of them.
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SPEAKER_02: Sure, we'd love to.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, well, let's make that happen through John.
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SPEAKER_03: I don't know that I can only imagine that he's going to be involved
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SPEAKER_03: in future publicity for us, particularly.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm not 100% sure,
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SPEAKER_03: but I think he actually is working with the agency that's actually come up with
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SPEAKER_03: the best proposition for us to date.
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SPEAKER_03: And I won't say any more than that in case it doesn't come about,
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SPEAKER_03: but it's looking real, real good.
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SPEAKER_02: Excellent, Angrit.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, once again, go pick up the Rose Tattoo release.
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SPEAKER_02: It is just called Blood Brothers, a slamming release from this veteran Australian band.
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SPEAKER_02: And again, Angry, you have been a stellar guest here on the Classic Metal Show.
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SPEAKER_03: Thank you, both of you.
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SPEAKER_03: Lords, Knights.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, Angry,
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SPEAKER_02: before we let you go,
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SPEAKER_02: we have to ask you the traditional classic metal show question.
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SPEAKER_02: We've asked over 200 artists this question over the years.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, I don't want to be
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SPEAKER_03: left out then.
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SPEAKER_02: Here it is.
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SPEAKER_02: How has Lemmy from Motorhead influenced your career?
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SPEAKER_03: I remember the first time I met Lemmy,
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SPEAKER_03: who was at Dingwall's, which is a famous nightclub in London.
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SPEAKER_03: And...
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SPEAKER_03: We walked in there and there he was.
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SPEAKER_03: And, you know, someone said, that's Lemmy from Hawkwind.
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SPEAKER_03: Now, of course, playing with Motorhead.
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SPEAKER_03: And I was totally in awe,
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SPEAKER_03: having been a Hawkwind fan, am a Hawkwind fan, and, of course, a metal.
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SPEAKER_03: And they were, I think it was like No Sleep or Hannah Smith or something.
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SPEAKER_03: It was like 80s.
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SPEAKER_03: 80, 81, I read about that.
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SPEAKER_03: I think it might have been 80.
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SPEAKER_03: And I thought, this is Lemmy.
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SPEAKER_03: This is the guy.
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SPEAKER_03: And I walked up to him and I stood beside him and I looked at him and,
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SPEAKER_03: you know, he's a bit taller than me, of course.
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SPEAKER_03: In those days, he was unbearably skinny.
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SPEAKER_03: And he held his denim jacket out and he put his head into...
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SPEAKER_03: He held the collar of it up and put his head into the inside of the jacket
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SPEAKER_03: and I heard...
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SPEAKER_03: And then he's come up out of the jacket and he's gone, oh, fuck, fuck.
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SPEAKER_03: And I looked at him and I thought, what the fuck is he doing, you know?
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SPEAKER_03: So I sort of, I said, hey, Lammy,
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SPEAKER_03: I'm Angry Anderson,
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SPEAKER_03: I sing for Rose Tattoo, huge fan, love your music, like your attitude.
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SPEAKER_03: And he looked at me and he said, that's cool, man.
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SPEAKER_03: Because it's all about attitude.
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SPEAKER_02: Nice.
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SPEAKER_02: Excellent, angry.
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SPEAKER_03: And then he offered me what he was hiding in his jacket.
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SPEAKER_03: He had a little pocket sewn onto the inside of his jacket with about a gram of speed
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SPEAKER_03: in there with a straw sellotaped into the bag so that all he had to do every now
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SPEAKER_03: and again when he felt like he was sort of slipping in concentration...
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SPEAKER_03: Was dip his head into his bag and just have a quick toot.
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SPEAKER_03: And I thought, this is a gentleman of rock.
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SPEAKER_03: This is the Dark Lord.
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SPEAKER_03: This is the man that I've learned to worship, and justifiably so.
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SPEAKER_03: This is a man.
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SPEAKER_03: He had toot to spare, but I love that.
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SPEAKER_03: I love that.
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SPEAKER_03: He said, you know, it's all about attitude, which, of course, it is.
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SPEAKER_01: Sure.
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SPEAKER_01: Nice.
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SPEAKER_03: And so, brother...
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SPEAKER_03: Brothers, Brothers Dark Knights of the Heavy Rockness.
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SPEAKER_03: That's a little Lemmy story, and we've remained pals to this day.
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SPEAKER_03: In fact,
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SPEAKER_03: on our MySpace,
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SPEAKER_03: there's a terrific photo of us
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SPEAKER_03: taken when he was out here last year, actually.
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SPEAKER_03: And just after that,
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SPEAKER_03: after they toured here,
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SPEAKER_03: We were over there doing the summer run in Europe,
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SPEAKER_03: and we did more gigs with them over there as well.
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SPEAKER_03: Love them to bits.
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SPEAKER_03: Three absolute stalwarts.
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SPEAKER_03: I think, oh, Jesus, Mickey D, what a drummer.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, gee whiz.
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SPEAKER_03: They've only got over like 15 years, that lineup.
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SPEAKER_03: I didn't realize it would have been so long, but they're a fantastic bunch of boys.
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SPEAKER_02: Love them to bits.
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SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
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SPEAKER_02: All right, well,
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SPEAKER_02: the new Rose Tattoo,
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SPEAKER_02: as I said,
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SPEAKER_02: is called Blood Brothers,
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SPEAKER_02: and we want to thank Angry for being part of the Classic Metal Show.
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SPEAKER_02: And Angry,
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SPEAKER_02: we always let the artists pick a closing song,
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SPEAKER_02: so maybe you could pick a song off this new release and maybe tell us a quick story
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SPEAKER_02: about it.
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SPEAKER_03: 1854 was the date.
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SPEAKER_03: The December of 1854 was the date of the Eureka Stockade,
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SPEAKER_03: was when the miners took a stand against the English Army.
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SPEAKER_03: If they'd waited another three or four months,
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SPEAKER_03: Republicans from America and Ireland and parts of Europe were on their way to help
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SPEAKER_03: the Australian miners create the new republic.
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SPEAKER_03: Years and years later, of course, we became a federation.
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SPEAKER_03: But Eureka Stockade was our moment of glory when the Southern Stars was adopted as our flag.
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SPEAKER_03: And in the liner cover, you'll see the flag there.
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SPEAKER_03: It was our moment where we stood against the might of the British Army.
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SPEAKER_03: Of course, we lost, outnumbered, outgunned.
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SPEAKER_03: Those that weren't shot and bayoneted on the spot were later hanged.
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SPEAKER_03: But Eureka Stock Age stands in Australian consciousness for that brief moment,
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SPEAKER_03: that spark of freedom to throw off The yoke of the oppressor.
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SPEAKER_03: And
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SPEAKER_03: my family were all Republicans and not anti-monarchists so much, but pro-Australians.
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SPEAKER_03: So I suppose it puts them at odds with the monarchy.
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SPEAKER_03: But that's all for one and one for all.
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SPEAKER_03: I just thought that summed up the whole attitude.
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SPEAKER_03: There's a line in the song that says,
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SPEAKER_03: if this be the last day that I see I know I've lived and died in good company
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SPEAKER_03: because we weren't sure when we recorded that album if this was not going
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SPEAKER_03: to be our last album.
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SPEAKER_03: And, of course, we're still not sure that it's not.
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SPEAKER_03: Excellent.
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SPEAKER_03: I think 1854 says it all for me.
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SPEAKER_02: All right.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, here it is.
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SPEAKER_02: This is Rose Tattoo from the Blood Brothers release, and this is 1854 exclusively here.
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