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BOOKCLUB: QUEEN OF SHADOWS CH 20-30 · Relatables

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  Speaker 1: Coming up on Relatables Baddies Book Club I would kill
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  Speaker 1: you I would do you a favour and kill you
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  Speaker 1: because you want to die.
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  Speaker 2: You shouldn't be able to live life without me.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, it wouldn't be easy Oh yeah, here we go
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  Speaker 3: It wouldn't be easy bro, but I would be doing
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  Speaker 3: you the biggest favour ever Welcome to Relatables Baddies Book
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  Speaker 3: Club Where we will embark on a journey Reading some
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  Speaker 3: of the finest pieces of literature you have ever laid
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  Speaker 3: eyes Or is, if that's your preferred way.
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  Speaker 2: To consume a book, on Oh no no no no
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  Speaker 2: no no Queen of Shadows, chapters 20 through to 30.
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  Speaker 1: Woo-hoo! Yes. I liked these chapters, and we said we're
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  Speaker 1: just doing 10 to get nice and ahead so everyone
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  Speaker 1: can get the episodes five days early again. Not a
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  Speaker 1: huge amount of stuff happened, though. Some cool stuff, though.
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  Speaker 2: We were kind of right in the sense of it
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  Speaker 2: was a lot of dialogue, Dialogue and more depth to
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  Speaker 2: the story, I guess.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, something did happen. There was a couple of things
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  Speaker 1: that did happen. What I'm saying, not much action, but
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  Speaker 1: there was some cool bomb drops. Yeah, the ending.
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  Speaker 2: I was surprised with the ending. I didn't think that
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  Speaker 2: was going to happen this soon either.
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  Speaker 1: Is that chapter 30? Yeah. Because you read chapter 30? Wait,
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  Speaker 1: 30 or 20?
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  Speaker 2: No, I just mean it was simple. No, maybe not 30.
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  Speaker 2: I've got the notes on my phone.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: No, I hear you too, yeah. Yeah, I just didn't
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  Speaker 2: think that was going to happen so soon. They were
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  Speaker 2: good though. I listened to like all of them while
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  Speaker 2: cleaning and like cleaning went like that. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I listened to like four hours of fucking Crescent City
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  Speaker 1: the other day while I was cleaning my house after
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  Speaker 1: having guests over when I got home. And it was
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  Speaker 1: like 11 and then it was 4 p.m. and I
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  Speaker 1: was like, fuck. Yeah, it's good.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes I get in the zone of cleaning too much, though,
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  Speaker 2: and then I have to rewind. I was like, shit,
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  Speaker 2: I forgot what I was listening to.
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  Speaker 1: No, I hear you. I hear you with that. I
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  Speaker 1: fully hear you.
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  Speaker 2: But before we get into today's episode, Jake, there was
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  Speaker 2: a big bomb drop in the Sarah J Maas universe,
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  Speaker 2: wasn't there?
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  Speaker 1: There was. I saw it this morning.
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  Speaker 2: I initially thought it was AI.
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  Speaker 1: So I didn't- Could it be? Could it be?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Because a couple of baddies sent it
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  Speaker 2: on Instagram and I was like, I thought it was
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  Speaker 2: AI because I was like, surely there hasn't been a
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  Speaker 2: leak a month early. It's a month and a half
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  Speaker 2: early of what the premise and like it's a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of audio book from the new book A Court
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  Speaker 2: of Splintered Harmony.
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  Speaker 1: Fuck, bro. Which is crazy. So you don't think it's
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  Speaker 1: like a proper leak? You think they meant to put
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  Speaker 1: it out?
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  Speaker 2: The only reason I think it's real is because the
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  Speaker 2: narrator is the same as the other books.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense then.
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  Speaker 2: I thought we could maybe listen to it and then
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  Speaker 2: talk about it before we get into the chapter summaries.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, sounds good to me. I'm keen. I haven't heard it.
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  Speaker 4: The howling rain-lashed wind robbed every lingering ember of warmth
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  Speaker 4: from Asriel. The scales of his black armor did nothing
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  Speaker 4: against the lethal cold carried within those howls. Neither did
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  Speaker 4: his siphons, their blue light unearthly through the downpour slicking
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  Speaker 4: every stone in the Montessarian mountain pass. Nor his shadows.
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  Speaker 4: barely hanging on to his half-frozen wings amid the gusting
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  Speaker 4: veils of rain. Five centuries of training kept him focused, though,
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  Speaker 4: allowed him to silence the screaming in his head, the
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  Speaker 4: body that demanded he find heat and find it fast.
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  Speaker 4: He wasn't here to coddle himself. He had a task
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  Speaker 4: to complete. Another hair-raising howl rent the night, so hollow
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  Speaker 4: and sharp that as could have sworn even the rain shuddered.
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  Speaker 4: He'd gone further than he should have. Recent Feyre's orders
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  Speaker 4: had been specific. Observe, but do not engage. Yet how
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  Speaker 4: could he not? How could he turn back when answers
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  Speaker 4: were so close, even if their enemies were too? A
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  Speaker 4: simple whisper had sent him here, a whisper overheard by
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  Speaker 4: his foulest of spies, stationed for months now in the
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  Speaker 4: mountains encircling Koschei, the Deathless's rotting castles.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so that's it. That's all of it. That's it.
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  Speaker 2: So it's not too much, but you know what that's
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  Speaker 2: alluding to?
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  Speaker 1: What?
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  Speaker 2: Asriel POV.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I thought you would be more like, oh my God.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I am stoked with that. Yeah. But you
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  Speaker 1: told me before we listened to it, before we started recording,
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  Speaker 1: you said that you're annoyed.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to be caught off guard and go back
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  Speaker 2: to some cool war with Rhys and Feyre. It obviously
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  Speaker 2: was going to be an Asriel.
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  Speaker 1: POV, but it was like, oh, okay, sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: No, I think I'm for it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm for it. Okay. I'm for it. I'm happy with it.
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  Speaker 1: I think that it's going to be, I don't think
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be actually as much as real POV
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  Speaker 1: as we think. I think that it is going to be,
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  Speaker 1: my prediction is that it's going to be like sort
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  Speaker 1: of throne of glass. Well, I guess queen of shadows
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  Speaker 1: is a good, good example because, queen of shadows this
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  Speaker 1: is from the pov of selena you'll get an aiden
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  Speaker 1: chapter a dorian chapter you'll get a fucking elite chapter
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  Speaker 1: you'll get a manon chapter like you'll get a kale
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  Speaker 1: chapter you just get there's so many different characters you
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  Speaker 1: reckon it's gonna go to that i think that it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna morph in well we've had the race
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  Speaker 1: pov did we get cassian's well cassian i guess is
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  Speaker 1: sort of with nesters because it was really a Like
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  Speaker 1: we call a quarter silver flames in Esther's book, but
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  Speaker 1: it's like 50% Cassian. True. Let's be real.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know why.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I'm still in the air.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I just wanted something more, even though it's probably just
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  Speaker 2: a teaser. But apparently I was just reading the comments
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  Speaker 2: and it came from like.
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  Speaker 1: The people who produce the audio book. So it's real. Okay. Nah, fair.
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  Speaker 1: They must have got a permission. Imagine they didn't get
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  Speaker 1: permission to release that.
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  Speaker 2: Just release it. I was thinking, you know how the
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  Speaker 2: new iPhone's coming out the end of this week, actually,
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  Speaker 2: as we're recording this. So, the day this episode comes out,
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  Speaker 2: the new iPhone's out. I was like, imagine the iPhone release,
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  Speaker 2: but instead it's book six release. And everyone goes and like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, there's an early release and everyone gets
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  Speaker 2: little teasers and there's chapters everywhere and you're like, oh
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  Speaker 2: my God, that'd be so sick.
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  Speaker 1: I reckon... if Apple somehow could have partnered with Sarah
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  Speaker 1: J Maas and was like, cause the books are obviously done,
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  Speaker 1: you know, both book six and seven are obviously done,
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  Speaker 1: but if they could have somehow been like, yo, we
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  Speaker 1: want to pay you X amount. And everyone that buys
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  Speaker 1: a brand new iPhone within the first week of its release.
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  Speaker 2: With the burgundy phone.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Burgundy. Everyone that buys the burgundy iPhone within, within
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  Speaker 1: the week of its release, they get, the full book
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  Speaker 1: six pre-downloaded. So they get to listen to it.
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  Speaker 2: That would be so sick. And then make it like
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  Speaker 2: on Apple podcasts or whatever they do. It would have
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  Speaker 2: been like, cause Apple has a books app too. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So it would have been on Apple's, Apple has a
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  Speaker 1: books app. So it would have been like on Apple
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  Speaker 1: books or whatever. So that would have.
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  Speaker 2: Been so sick. They would have missed opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: I would have bought one. They would have sold so
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  Speaker 1: many phones, bro. Not even funny.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's so fun.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, baddies, we should get into the summary recap and, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: get into it.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone's glad we're back to our roots with you.
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  Speaker 1: I saw.
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  Speaker 2: Reading and letting the baddies relive through you.
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  Speaker 1: I saw the comments and I just thought, fuck it, amazing.
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  Speaker 1: You know what? One thing I was thinking too was,
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  Speaker 1: so we were doing fourth wing and that's sort of
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  Speaker 1: when we were like getting over it. right and i
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  Speaker 1: was still doing the chapter summaries like that and then
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  Speaker 1: i think what we kind of thought was like oh
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  Speaker 1: we're just not liking this format but well i think
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  Speaker 1: what it was is that we weren't really like into
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  Speaker 1: fourth wing yeah if that makes sense and so i
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  Speaker 1: think we've always been sort of into this format but.
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  Speaker 2: We just need a book that we really like That
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  Speaker 2: makes sense. It felt more like work doing those episodes
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  Speaker 2: than it did enjoyment, whereas these feel fun. Like that
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  Speaker 2: 20 chapters we did last time, I can remember in
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  Speaker 2: fourth wing, if we did.
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  Speaker 1: That, we would have been like, fuck. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Whereas that went so quick and it was so good.
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  Speaker 1: And it's funny because I think fourth wing, personally, I
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  Speaker 1: went and finished them, really, really liked them. I honestly do.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of giving like, honestly, it's giving sort of,
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  Speaker 1: you know how, throne of glass has been really big
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  Speaker 1: build up one big issue that they're going to come
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  Speaker 1: to at book eight and then how i was talking
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  Speaker 1: about akatar being like big issue fixed big issue fixed
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  Speaker 1: they have to kind of create a new issue each
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  Speaker 1: book yeah i feel like fourth wing is going to
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  Speaker 1: be more like throne of glass where it's like big
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  Speaker 1: issue but we don't fully fully understand the issue yet
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  Speaker 1: if you if you can be bothered i recommend reading
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  Speaker 1: it so then when the new books come out We
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  Speaker 1: can do them book club because I think they'll be good.
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  Speaker 2: When are they meant to be released? There wouldn't be
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  Speaker 2: any time near Sarah J Maas, would there?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Not for ages.
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  Speaker 2: It's like Harry Styles and JB of the book world.
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  Speaker 2: They don't release at the same time.
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  Speaker 1: It's like Drake being like, oh, I want to release
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  Speaker 1: an album. And then Taylor Swift goes, I'm releasing one. So,
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  Speaker 1: he's like, well, I'll wait a year. You know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean? Anyway. Okay, guys. Chapter 20. We're recapping every chapter,
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  Speaker 1: thoughts and theories to every plot twist. We'll break it
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  Speaker 1: down for you. all right so we got a cheeky
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  Speaker 1: little elide and manon chapter i believe it was or
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  Speaker 1: might have just been a manon chapter anyway so we
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  Speaker 1: find out that i think is it pronounced elide are
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  Speaker 1: you listening yeah it's elide elide yeah so elide is
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  Speaker 1: a child of terrison which we knew but but her
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  Speaker 1: father was the lord of parent or parent and um
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  Speaker 1: he so when the king of ardalan or rift told
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  Speaker 1: or whatever he was doing his shit her uncle elise
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  Speaker 1: uncle swore fealty to the king and fucking basically i
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  Speaker 1: don't know somehow got it so her elise father was
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  Speaker 1: like slaughtered and then the uncle stole the title so
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  Speaker 1: he's lord of parents and elise actually the heir of
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  Speaker 1: parents she should be the lord of parents because her
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  Speaker 1: father died anyways And so, Madden's wigging out. She's kind
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  Speaker 1: of finding out some stuff. And she realizes that Elid
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  Speaker 1: has no idea she's part witch. And then it's like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, she kind of goes, I think she, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if she tells her right then or if
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  Speaker 1: she waits or whatever. Anyway, Madden's kind of like, girl,
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  Speaker 1: you got witch in you, whatever. So, Madden goes to
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  Speaker 1: talk to one of her 13. And one of her 13,
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  Speaker 1: she talks to the oldest one who is very smart
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  Speaker 1: and spent time 12 years of her life, her, for
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  Speaker 1: some reason, this witch's mom was like, you're going to
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  Speaker 1: school with humans or something. I don't know. She went
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  Speaker 1: to school in Terrace up in the North and they
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  Speaker 1: learned all about the Valk. So she's asking her about
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  Speaker 1: the Valk. And she goes, so the Valk were here
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  Speaker 1: a long time ago. They basically just came in and
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  Speaker 1: mated with the Fae. I don't know if the Fae
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  Speaker 1: were wanted to mate with them or not, but like
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  Speaker 1: they had offspring with the Fae and that is what
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  Speaker 1: created the witches. And so, Her name's Ghislaine, this witch
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  Speaker 1: that knows this stuff. She's kind of, you know, against
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  Speaker 1: the whole Vowg thing. And she puts two and two together.
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  Speaker 1: She goes, oh, they're here, aren't they? And Madden's kind
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  Speaker 1: of like, yeah, I don't know. I'll leave that up
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  Speaker 1: to your imagination type shit because she's, for some reason,
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  Speaker 1: not allowed to say anything. But King Brannan, which is
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  Speaker 1: the one that's buried underneath the castle, who actually found
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  Speaker 1: the word keys and hid them, He's the one that
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  Speaker 1: gave the witches the Western Wastes. They were a new
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  Speaker 1: breed of being.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't have anywhere. And then he gave them
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  Speaker 2: like the worst place there was just to have something.
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  Speaker 1: But they all really want it back. Yeah, yeah. It's
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  Speaker 1: their home. The witches should just go fuck shit up,
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  Speaker 1: I reckon, take everything anyway. And then they're having some
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  Speaker 1: dinner and one of the yellow legs, witches or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: comes up to Manon and is like, I want to
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  Speaker 1: volunteer to be the bearer of the Valkchild.
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  Speaker 2: Crazy. For the VALG, are you like... I'm picturing like
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  Speaker 2: shadow people in my head.
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  Speaker 1: What I picture for the VALG for some reason is
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  Speaker 1: just like someone... Well, so the VALG are obviously possessing people. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But if I was to picture a VALG, I assume
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  Speaker 1: they just can't be in this world yet.
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  Speaker 2: Has there been a description of like their look at all?
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  Speaker 1: There hasn't. I don't think so. But I'm picturing like
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  Speaker 1: literally just... human but imagine human that just looks like
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  Speaker 1: a black portal into the abyss.
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  Speaker 2: That's basically i'm thinking like yeah the shape of a
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  Speaker 2: human but then they're just like shadowy form yeah and
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  Speaker 2: they move around.
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  Speaker 1: Like that i think that's what i'm thinking too honestly
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  Speaker 1: chapter 21 we've got a dorian chapter yeah a boy
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  Speaker 1: he's like pretty much he's like yeah i'm i think
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  Speaker 1: he's come to terms with the And he talks about trying. So,
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  Speaker 1: when Selene was about to kill him and she said,
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  Speaker 1: show me a sign and I'll leave, brother. If he
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  Speaker 1: talks about that and he doesn't remember her name, he
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  Speaker 1: says like, I'm thinking about that. I forget her name.
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  Speaker 1: And then he's like, he hates her for not killing him.
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  Speaker 2: He just wants to die. It must be bad in there, eh?
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  Speaker 1: Bro. Bro.
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  Speaker 2: Fucking, like, imagine. You got to feel a bit bad
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  Speaker 2: for Dorian, don't you?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like Dorian now. Yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 1: Big Dorian guy now.
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  Speaker 2: He just wants to die now too because he knows
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  Speaker 2: what's right and he's like, I can't do anything.
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  Speaker 1: It's just helpless. The woman he loves turns out to
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  Speaker 1: be a rebel and is feeding the information they talk
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  Speaker 1: about that he thinks is in private out to her contacts, right?
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  Speaker 1: He finds that out and he's like, obviously still loves
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  Speaker 1: her and then literally a minute later watches her head
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  Speaker 1: get chopped off. And then, and then, He shows his
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  Speaker 1: father his magic to save his friend that he currently hates.
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  Speaker 1: And then his father fucks him up and puts a
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  Speaker 1: collar on him. Yeah, you get a collar. And now
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  Speaker 1: he's possessed. Like, you can't, you have to feel bad
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  Speaker 1: for that guy. Chapter 22. Kael is, he believes Dorian's
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  Speaker 1: still in there, basically. He thinks Dorian's still in there.
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  Speaker 1: He hates Selene for trying to kill him. And he
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  Speaker 1: will not accept the fact that it would have been
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  Speaker 1: mercy to Dorian. Here's the thing, right? I think I'm
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  Speaker 1: annoyed that Kael's so hell-bent on this, like, Dorian's in there,
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  Speaker 1: Dorian's in there type shit. Because, let me, like, so
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  Speaker 1: Dorian wants to die. That's what he wants. He wants
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  Speaker 1: to die. And obviously, because he is not dead yet,
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  Speaker 1: he's going to be saved. Yeah. And we're going to
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  Speaker 1: have a Dorian. A lot of Dorian left in the series, right?
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  Speaker 1: And he's going to obviously become king after they kill
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  Speaker 1: his dad. But it annoys me, like, if you were
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  Speaker 1: possessed by a demon. You'd let me die. And I knew,
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  Speaker 1: and I was like in the same situation as Selena,
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  Speaker 1: where I had faced three of said demons, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I also faced a commander who was wearing a
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  Speaker 1: collar and was possessed by a demon. You're a doggie.
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  Speaker 1: And then when I kill this guy, this commander, he's
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  Speaker 1: literally looking at me like, thank you. He doesn't even
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  Speaker 1: want to be saved. I would kill you. I would
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  Speaker 1: do you a favor and kill you because you want
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  Speaker 1: to die.
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  Speaker 2: You shouldn't be able to live life without me.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, it wouldn't be easy. Oh, yeah. Here we go.
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  Speaker 1: It wouldn't be easy, bro, but I would be doing
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  Speaker 1: you the biggest favor ever.
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  Speaker 2: You'd probably be like, man, that felt good. Oddy was
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  Speaker 2: doing bad. Because it wouldn't feel good.
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  Speaker 1: It would not feel good at all.
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  Speaker 2: I did that guy a favor.
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  Speaker 1: Let's say this. Let's say this.
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  Speaker 2: I risk the kingdom, right, trying to save you.
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  Speaker 1: Hmm. Let's just say I save you. You're going to
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: be so fucked up in the head for the rest
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: of your life that you're probably going to kill yourself anyway. Like,
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying?
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: But that's a decision for me to make.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Not while you're possessed by a demon. It's a decision
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: for me to make.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: But if you find out a way to heal me,
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: then if I want to kill myself, I can kill myself.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, I guess. I see your point. I guess
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: you're making the decision for me. It's like Dorian's no
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: longer in there.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But here's the thing. He is.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: He is because he tried to show a sign, but
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: he just didn't have control to do so.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: So he is in there. So I guess the point
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: of this actually is the fact that Cale is sort
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: of correct because Dorian is in there. He just doesn't
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: really remember anything. And when he comes out, do you
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: think he's got to remember anything at all or will
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: it all come back to him?
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: I reckon Kale will kiss Dorian and then he'll bring him.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: Out. You think a kiss from Kale is going to
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: ring Dorian out? Yeah. You're off chops, bro. That's crazy. Hey,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: it could happen. I'm sure stranger things have happened. I
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: just don't think this is giving like, what's the Sleeping
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: Beauty one where it's like.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: A kiss wakes her up? Just know if I'm ever possessed, mate,
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: kiss my elf.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: I mean i hey i'll try all the things i
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: don't know if a demon would let me kiss him
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: but to get close enough probably suck my soul out
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: all right chapter 23 and 24 we get so adion
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: has been all sorts of injured but him and selena
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: they have a proper reunion yeah where she's like chilling
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: there and he wakes up and then they talk and
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: he's crying she's crying type thing right and i for
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: some reason so i can picture selena but when i
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: picture him like they're supposed to look like twins he's
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: obviously a lot bigger he's just a male version but
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: they're supposed to look like literal twins um but i'm
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: struggling to picture.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Him yeah i'm not picturing him looking like so similar
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: i especially because like the gender but I guess just
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: because of how much they resonated with each other's backgrounds
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: and how they felt made me be able to feel
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: the connection.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought it was really cool how he also
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: has the inner dialogue of... He talks about always being
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: jealous of his men, the Bane. His men are called
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: the Bane. So they'll be talking and they talk about
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: their families and stuff at home. And he was always
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: very jealous that he didn't have... that yeah but um
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: all that feeling he feels at home with selena and
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: he has family true family again which is sick i
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: thought that was a cool feeling very heartwarming and so
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: the pits well the that's the new vaults. So she's,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: she's fucked the vaults up, but now there's a new
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: place open already called the pits. Basically. And, um, she
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: goes there with Kale and Nezrin and there's a fighting pit.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Of course it's called the pits. So Arabin's there and
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: these pits have opened up and Arabin and a bunch
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: of other people are wanting to pay in and gain control.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Cause it's one of the ways they like get the
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: information fed to them and shit. Right. And so the
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: new owners of the pits are kind of like umming
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: and ahhing about who to take money from. And so,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: There's also another thing I forgot to mention was that
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: all of the Valg disappeared basically. Like the nests disappeared
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: where they were taking the humans and Kayle can't find
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: them again. And so she brought Kayle because there's Valg
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: troops in the crowd and Erebin must have known this
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: and he was doing Kayle a favor of being like, well,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: you can track them now. So she is at the
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: pits and She also was there because she had to
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: do something for Erebon. I can't remember. I don't know
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: why she had to do this. Anyway, so Erebon's kind
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: of like, I need you to fight one of the Valg.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: I need you to get in there, fight. And I'm
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: pretty sure it was, oh, the reason was I think
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: she is still under the guise of like working for Erebon.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: I think Erebon says that to the owners, like the
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: pit boss. And so she goes in. She challenges the
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Valg commander of all people. He jumps down. He's like,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: fuck off. I'm going to kill you, bitch. And then
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: she's like, yeah, yeah, right. Yeah. And so I think
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: because as it looks like she works for Arab and
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: the pit boss sees that she like fucks up this commander,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: even though it's a valve, she like fully takes it.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Like she lets it go. They talk about the fight being,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: it's from chaos POV. He talks about the fight being
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: kind of even sort of right. And Selena just is like,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: he's like, I don't know who trained her or like
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: that Rowan guy training her. Fuck me dead. She's a
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: beast now. And then apparently Arab and gives her a
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: bit of a nod and he goes off. She was
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: letting it go on. And then she just like full
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: on breaks this thing's neck and doesn't give a shit.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: And so that I think now Erevin will buy in
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: and like can offer protection and also be like, yeah, look,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: we're beasts. So she kills it. But before the commander dies,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: he's like, oh, I can feel the magic in your veins.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: I should just take you straight to Morath or Morath
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: or whatever. And so now she knows where all the
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: people get taken to be turned into soldiers. Yeah. Information. So,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: she comes out of the pit and she kills this thing.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Arabin's like, hey, what about our deal? I told you
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: I want a live one so I can question this
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: fucking thing. And she's like, sorry, bloodlust got the better
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: of me. And then for some reason, he is like, oh,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: I have a gift for you. Do you want to
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: know where we buried Sam? And I was like, what?
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Mind games, eh?
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Anyway, she goes, what's the price? He goes, can't it
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: be a gift? And she goes, fuck sakes, whatever, bro.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Where is he? And then he was buried somewhere on
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: the outskirts of town, I think. But, okay, one thing
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: I think... So, obviously, I don't know if you're on
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: board with this yet, she's going to end up being
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: with Rowan, right? Agreed. I think that, for some reason,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: I don't ship them together the same way that I ship, say,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Feyre and Rhys, or Cassian and Nestor, or in Crescent City,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Bryce and... I don't ship them together the same way
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: because it was like, I think, you know, in the
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: first two books, she falls in love with Kale, right? Well,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: first of all, she like fucking makes out and sort
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: of falls in love with Dorian. And then she falls
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: actually in love quotes with Kale. And then we read
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Assassin's Blade where she falls in love with Sam. And now,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: and then we read Heir of Fire where she's clearly
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: starting to fall in love with Rowan. Like, to me,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: it's like, we're four books and there's four different dudes. True.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: To me, I can't ship them now.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: I can't ship them.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Is that a depiction of young love?
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know, bro. It's just like, really? Because, like,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: I agree with you, too.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: I also, like, you know, I know how she was
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: just playing in that fight, but they had a reference to, like,
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: this Rowan guy was trying to know if she's a
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: weapon now.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Like, she was the most notorious assassin of all time.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Like, why are they... Saying like, oh, she's such a
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: beast now because this man's trained her.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Oh, there's a reason. We find out. Should we be
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: fair though? Because Kayle has seen the fight.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Do you mean because we find out who Rowan is?
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Is that the reason? Well, I think we don't, at
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: this point in the book, we don't find out exactly who,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: like we know who Rowan is, but we don't find
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: out that he is who he is, right? And so
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: we find out in a few chapters, but at this
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: point in time, we know that Kayle has seen her
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: fight plenty of times. Yeah. And he's watching her again
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: and now she's even better. So he's like, who the
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: fuck is this Rowan guy? Right, right, right.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: And the reason is because of Roland's background.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Pretty much, yeah. And I guess it makes sense that
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: he's a lot better because he's fucking 300, 400 years
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: old and she's like 20.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what's with the predator love in these books, eh? Yo,
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: there's something about all these fucking immortal beings falling in
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: love with a mortal 20-year-old woman.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: It's like when you really say it out loud, it
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: sounds so, so sus. But maybe it's going to show
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: that it took these immortal beings, you know, anywhere from
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: like 500 to 1,000 years to get to.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: The emotional maturity as a 20-year-old woman.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Legit. Oh, I'll tell you what.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: You know how last episode I was struggling to wrap
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: my head around the length of each book? And I
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: thought Erofire was like two years and you said it
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: was about two months. The whole series, about he commented,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: is a year or a year and a half.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: I know. It's not long, eh? What? I know.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, crazy, sir.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: The amount of growth, that makes the love bit even harder.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, bro. She falls in love with fucking...
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Because even if you think about it.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Because if you said it was like five or ten years,
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: I'd be like, oh yeah, fair enough.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Go back to the year she fell in love with Sam, right?
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: That was the year leading up to.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: She should still be grieving it.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: That was the year leading up to going to Endovia,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: salt mines, right? And then she's in Endovia for a
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: year and then she gets out, right? And basically the
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: series starts from when she gets out of Endovia. So
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: if you go basically... from the start of Throne of
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Glass to the end of Kingdom of Ash is a
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: year and a bit or whatever, right? Just add two
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: more years to the front of that. So it's like,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: you know, three years and a bit. Fucking falls in
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: love with four dudes in three years. Like, I guess
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: it's not crazy, but also it's just for some reason
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: wigs me out and that's why I can't ship her
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: and Rowan. True. Yeah, you know, it's like, are you
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: just going to fucking fall in love with someone else, bro?
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Like, I don't know.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: You know, Rowan, bro. Rowan, he has his mate that dies.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: And then he, it was like a hundred years ago
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: that she dies or something like that. Maybe it was
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: 200 years ago that he dies. And the next person
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: he's sort of falling in love with is Selina. True.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Like this guy mourned. He mourned for, he spent 10 years.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: I don't, was it 10 years? He spent like 10
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: years or something in just the forest, just being a menace,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: like not talking to anyone. And then that's when his
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: cater came and got him. Or Queen Maeve goes like,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: right here, come on, mate. Like, let's fucking go. It's
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: been 10 years. Stop carrying on, mate. Let's do some work.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Did you have the prediction that Rowan and Selana were mated?
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You did, eh? Yeah. And the reason, because it's
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: because they're soul bonded and they're Carrara now.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you too now. Like completely.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Definitely mated. Right. So chapter 25, Asteryn, she is obviously
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: the noun number three to Manon. She goes to talk
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: to a lead. And she's like, she goes down to
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: help her wash dishes and Elide's like stressing. And we
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: know that Elide's putting on this big act of like,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: you know, being a fucking stammering little, I guess, wimp.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: She's putting on this act and all the witches can
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: see through it. Keep in mind, Elide is planning to
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: escape Morath. She's going to escape on one of the
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: supply carts and she's really, really wants to escape. And
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: so Astrid comes down, she's talking to her and she goes,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: we know you're a witch brah. And, and the actual
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: genuine shock on Elise face, as in like, what's no,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: I'm not makes the witches believe, Oh, she doesn't actually
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: know bro. So yeah. And that's when they actually tell her. So, um,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: they go up, so she leaves and she's really worried that, um,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: if her uncle knows about her witch blood, he's going
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: to use her as the, as the valve delivery system
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: for the baby. I don't really know what they call it.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: The vessel.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: The vessel, yes. And so she goes up, for some reason,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: she goes up to Manon's room and starts to steal
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: coins to get out of it. It's like, you dumb fuck.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Great idea. Manon comes in, she's like, doing bra.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: She's like, doing. Would have picked anyone else.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Anyway, she, Manon goes to take, what was she? I
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: think she just like goes to take fucking A lead
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: to her room. She goes, let me take you to
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: your room. And her uncle, a lead's uncle is there
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: just being a menace. And so then they go into
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: a lead's room. Manon tells the uncle to fuck off
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: and she goes into the room and she goes, all right,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: your blood can either run blue like a witch or
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: red like a human. If it's blue like a witch,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: you're under my protection by law. And if it's red
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: like a human, I honestly don't care. And I'm probably
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: going to be quite entertained what they do to you.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: So choose.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Savage.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: She's like, choose bro. And I was like, that's actually hectic.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: I like Madden. I think she's a beast. Yeah, this
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: is cool. And so then she, Elide really thinks about
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: it and she goes, okay, I choose blue. And Madden's like,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Madden's like, good choice. Great choice. Because I also think
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: good choice. Because obviously what's going to happen is they're
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: going to fix her weird ass ankle. They're going to
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: take her shackles off. They're going to be under her protection.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: It's going to go from... You're going to be... You're
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: not going to be... So Madden's going to have... Instead
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: of a 13, she's going to have a 14. A
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: lead's going to be her little fucking disciple apprentice type shit.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: She's going to be a mad dog. I'm keen as.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: And she's a witchling still because she's only fucking 18.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Chapter 26. So Adion, he... He talks about taking the
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: blood oath for Selina. And in Tarasin, all these years,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: every single, all the royals, whoever was in charge, whether
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: it be a monarch or a patriarch, each one of
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: them has only taken one blood oath from a commander.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: And so that was like, they just were, you know,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: fucking blood oath type shit. Whereas Queen Maeve has like
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: six blood oaths from all the Cater. And so he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: I'm going to fucking do that blood oath. And they
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: talk about it. And Selina's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: can do it. You can do it. Little does he
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: know that Rowan's already taken the blood oath. And she
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: kind of is like, I can't tell him right now.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: I just can't tell him yet. I can't do it.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Seems like a bit of a cock off for the man, eh?
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: Oh my God, bro.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Like, I'll take a blood oath for you. I'll give
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: you my life.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Like, for fuck's sakes. I don't even know what, it
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: just is so depicting of, I guess, you know, his
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: whole purpose is protection. Yeah. Be a man. Protection. Oh,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: my sword. I live and die by my sword for you.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: I live for you. Fuck's sakes, bro. It annoys me too.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: And he's like, just got better. And he's like, I'll
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: take a blood oath.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: I'll take a blood oath for you, man. Honestly, it
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: is just so, so silly.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: And then in this same chapter, sorry. So the vow,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Cale comes into the apartment all like pissy after they're like,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: after him and Adion are talking. And, um, He says
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: the Vow commanders, they killed all the fucking, everyone. They
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: just burnt the whole shadow market. They've put it up
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: in flames, trapped them in and just burnt the whole thing.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: And so Selander's like, oh, and I bet you fucking
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: probably that's my fault too, isn't it? And he's kind
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: of like, well, of all the ways he could have
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: done it, the king chose flames. So he was probably
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: sending a message. And Adian was like, bro, watch your
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: fucking mouth, bro. That's my queen. All right. And I'll
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: actually fuck you up if you keep talking shit. Kale's
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: pissing me off anyway. Want to see my blood over me? Yeah, true.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: He's like, hey, I'll fucking spill blood right here all
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: over you, you fucking loser. So Selene is like, shit.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: And she goes out and she tracks one of the
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Valg troops, groups or whatever. And then the commander breaks
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: off to go a different way. So she tracks that
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: commander and they go into a sewer and she's like
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: sneaking up, sneaking up, sneaking up. And this commander- goes
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: real deep in this sewer to this big pool and
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: there's this fuck off big creature like gangly um yucky
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: black creature looks deadly as fuck right that's just chilling
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: in this pool ways deep and um down in the
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: darkness and the and it's like you know all right
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: give me a fucking update to this like commander and
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: she goes she's wigging out she's like what the fuck
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: she calls it a valg hound or something i think
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: which is what she called it and um Sorry, we're
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: going into chapter 27. She calls it a word hound.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: And so she said, this is so weird. It looks
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: exactly like one of the gargoyles on the fucking tower.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Big black tower. She's like, is one of them missing
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: right now? Is this just like a carnation of it? Like,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: is this a thing? Anywho, she's wigging out and she goes,
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: why the fuck does that sound exactly like the king?
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: So this thing's talking to the commander and it's the
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: king's voice. She's like, I don't know what sorcery this
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: is where the king's looking through his eyes and speaking
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: through his mouth. Yeah. But bro, yummy, yummy, juicy, juicy
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: stuff here. Scary though. She's shivering. She's like, this is fucked.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: The king is honestly like a genius, eh?
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: So I'm still not sure if the king is a
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: good guy that was taken over. So I'm not sure
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: if the king was a good guy. And at 20
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: years old, He found the word keys and was like, oh, power, power, power, cool.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: But then he got possessed and he isn't making any
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: of these choices. Or if he is the bad guy
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: and he's letting the Valg do all this.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: I think it will be the first, but I want
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: it to be the second.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: I want him to be just an outright bad guy.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: So I agree. But for the reason I think it's
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: the first one is because he was a prince at
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: the time, born to be a king. And it's like,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: think about what's happening to his city. Yeah. I can
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: understand wanting territory, but what are you doing to your people?
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Because he hates Dorian. Is there any sort of inkling
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: that there's been something inside him that's looked after Dorian ever?
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Not that I can think of. Yeah, neither.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: That'd be a tiny way to show that someone good's inside, maybe.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: And we know that the king and his queen, they
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: don't sleep in the same room. They stay on different
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: sides of the castle and they basically just did it
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: to have kids. yeah so look i don't know bro
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: but craziness anyway um adian then is she goes back
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: to the house and she was took four hours and
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: he's like bro what the hell you said you'd be
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: two now you were four how do you think i
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: feel and she's like trust me i know how you
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: feel because of that night sam died anyway um she
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: got he's like i need to get the fuck out
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: of this apartment by the way so she goes fine
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: let's go out they go and then they're about to
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: leave to go for a walk on the street And
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Nezrin pops up and she's like, yeah, Nezrin, come hang
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: out with us. I was like, okay, weird. She just
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: randomly wants to be friends with Nezrin now. They go
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: to a fucking pub, some yucky ass pub and go
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: play cards at the back and shit like that. Anyway,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: they're walking home. It's like, what is it? I think
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: it's like 2 a.m. And they're walking the back streets
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: of the slums. And Adian has a better like sense
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: of hearing and smell than the other two. So he
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: can hear someone's walking very softly, right? Not to go
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: to lie, didn't expect this for a while. Didn't expect
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: this to happen for a long time.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: I didn't expect it for ages.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: I didn't expect it for a long time anyway. So
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: he stops Nezrin and Selina and is like, just wait.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: He gets into a bit of a battle stance and
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: there's somewhat at the end of the slums now. And
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: they're like, what the fuck? Turns out they run into Rowan. Yeah.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what?
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: That's what I was talking about at the start. I
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: was like, wow, I didn't think this was going to happen.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: So I thought he was like going to come in
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: and be like a beast and save him, not just
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: be like in the story.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: He's just like part of the story. I'm kind of
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: happy about it, to be fair. I like it. It adds. Yeah,
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: it definitely adds to it. Okay, so Selene goes up,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: runs into him, hugs him. And one thing we actually
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: forgot to talk about was in some of the conversations
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: her and Adian are having, she talks about Rowan as
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: if like he's a pain in her ass, right? That's
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: how Aelin talks about Rowan. She's like, yeah, fuck, he
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: taught me all this shit, but God, he's annoying, bro. God,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: he's annoying. And Aedan's like, you know who Rowan is, right?
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: This is before they meet. He's like, you know who
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Rowan is, right? She goes, well, yeah, the prince, you know,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Prince Rowan. And he goes, Rowan's the most skilled fae
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: warrior that has ever existed, right? Or something like that, right?
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: And so, Slane is kind of like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Also,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: pain in my ass, by the way, bro. He's like, yeah, no. Like,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: people used to tell stories about him just when I
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: was a kid around the fire, you know, type shit. Cool. So,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: and I was like, fuck, you know, like, that's crazy.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: And so, now I'm kind of like, obviously, Rowan's a beast.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Rowan's a beast. Does that mean, like, Warrior.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Does that mean better than.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Rhys and shit? I think I would probably say more
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: on Cassian's scale because Rhys is... He's a high lord, right?
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: He's probably more like the Queen Maeve. Yeah. If you
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: really think about it.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: So he's fucking... I've got to picture him on the
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: same pedestal as Cassian now. That's crazy.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: So I think Rowan's more of the same as Cassian
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: and Asriel type of thing in terms of actual just
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: fighting skill. But I think... With the benefit of him
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: being able to shift into a hawk, and he also
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: has the power of wind, I think he'd get the
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: upper hand on them because he is Fae. Whereas Cassian
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: and Asriel, they're Illyrian warriors. They're not Fae, they're Illyrian.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: But also, Cassian's the best fighter in all of Prithian.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: But I think Rhys would fuck up. I agree. If
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: he's using his magic, I think Rhys would fuck up Rowan.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not a warrior category.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Like, I think he'd probably beat Rhys in a hand-to-hand combat,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: but if Rhys is allowed to just be like, nah,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: fuck yeah, he'd just crush him. Yeah, exactly. now that
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: we're back so sorry on chapter 28 again back with
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: meeting rowan so adian and rowan are just doing this
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: fey thing of like staring each other down and slain
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: is like okay for fuck's sake let's just go back
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: to the apartment nezrin goes home they go back to
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: the apartment and um Rowan stinks because he stowed away
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: on a ship, right? And he, he came for a reason.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: He goes, I have my reasons for being here, but
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: he doesn't say them yet. And so he stows away
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: on a ship and then comes, he's super stinky. So
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Selena's like, come home. You have to have a bath.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: You smell really bad. Radio, blah, blah, blah. Cool, cool, cool.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Now we go out and they have a proper introduction
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: to Adian. And so she's like, Rowan, Adian, Adian, Rowan,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: meet Rowan. Best friends. They're doing this stare down. They're
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: also like, Rowan's like, Adian's kind of like, this guy's huge.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: This guy's huge. He's like my height, maybe a bit
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: bigger type shit because Adian's huge. And so they're like
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: staring each other down, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Cool, cool, cool.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: And then they're kind of having this like big cock
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: off and Slane is like, for fuck's sakes, you guys
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: are so lame. And then Rowan goes, who's, who sired you?
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: As in, who's your father? And Adian's like, what? Because
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: he sniffs Aideon. He's like, who sired you? And he goes,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know. He goes, yeah, so you know your mum,
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: but who is your father? And he goes, I was
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: never told. And then Selene goes, do you know him?
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: And Rowan's like, yeah, you've met him. She goes, what?
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: He goes, you've met him. It's Gavriel.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: So do we remember the mountain lion shifter?
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Gavriel is fucking Aideon's dad, bro.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Pretty cool way. I was like, what?
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: And Selene is like, oh, is that why when I
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: met him, he asked me my age because I look
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: exactly like Adion and like exactly like, because Selene's mum
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: and Adion's mum were sisters. It's like, that's exactly what
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: she would have looked like if Gavriel had had a daughter.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: And then when she, when he learned the age, so
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: he said, how old are you? She said, whatever age.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: And he goes, okay, cool, cool, cool. And then Rowan's like, yeah, yeah,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: you just wouldn't have been old enough. But Adion, he's
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: fucking old enough. And then, And then he confirms it.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: He's like, no, bro, I can smell Gavriel all over you.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Which is straight up.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: I read, I kind of think it's hectic, but I
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: was like, that's sick. Yeah, I reckon that's cool too.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: And so obviously the Kada that answered to Rowan, or
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: did they answer to Rowan? Yeah, it was his Kada.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: I have a feeling like Gavriel was the only one
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: that stopped and actually tried to help Selene when she
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: was fighting those Valk princes of all the Kada. The
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: other Kada just went down with Rowan because they all
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: have a blood oath to Maeve.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: Yep, keep in mind.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Right, and then we also find out... So, yeah, we
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: also find out that... Oh, no, not find out. Adion
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: finds out that Rowan's already given the blood oath. And
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: then him and Slanna have a huge fight. Huge fight.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: And she's like, Broski, get the fuck out of my house, eh?
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: I was like, dang. They have a huge fight. Anyway,
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: so chapter 29, Rowan says to Aelin, the reason I'm
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: here is because Lorcan is here. And so apparently now
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Lorcan's the strongest female in the realm. What's with that?
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Someone goes, Rowan's the strongest, now Lorcan's the strongest. But
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: he does go on to say, right? And so he
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: goes on to say, like, the reason he's here is
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: because he was obviously looking for you, but he doesn't
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: know your scent. And he probably just came here to
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: get me to come here to track me to you.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: So he's going to find him. Right. And so then
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: she said, um, it is, it's in the book. It
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: says that Lorcan is Rowan's only equal. And so she says,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: could you beat him? And he goes, well, I would
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: never actually want to fight him because of the devastation
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: it would cause. He said, if we went head to head,
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: he's like Lorcan, um, never, ever, ever, ever lets himself
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: lose at anything, whether it be with women, whether it
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: be in a fight, whether it be at cards, like gambling, anything,
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: he never lets himself lose. But he said, if we
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: just went hand-to-hand combat, because both of our magics are
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: stifled right now, it would just be whoever wants it more.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: And he goes, and I can tell you right now,
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: if we went hand-to-hand combat, he wouldn't walk out alive.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: And I was like, that was fucking cold, Rowan. That
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: was cold as fuck. So what's up with everyone? Like
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: I've made a video on Instagram saying like, Rowan, strongest female, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: And then everyone's like, what about Lorcan? What about Lorcan?
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: I'm like, first of all, who the fuck is Lorcan?
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: Hadn't met him yet. Also, who is Lorcan? Do we know?
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: No, it doesn't mean anything about him.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: I could have swore. Is Lorcan like part of the Cater?
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: I think he's part of the Cater. We might've had
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: a reference to him in- Lorcan.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: I feel like I read it and remembered that name, but- Same.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Also, in this book, Odi, in the Queen of Shadows,
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: in these chapters, actually, ready? I'll just quickly finish. So,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Selene and Aelin, Aedion make up, right? Yeah. And then
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: she goes, we can have more than one blood oath,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: you know? And he's like, oh, it's always been one.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: It's always been one, blah, blah, blah. And then she's like, well,
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: new traditions, new things, you know, we can fucking do
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: what we want. And he's like, all right, cool. Well,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: I'll do it, but only once you're crowned queen. Chapter 30.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Dorian has allowed the demon complete control of him since
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Selene failed to kill him. He's like, fuck this. Who cares?
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: All right. What I want to talk about, first of all, cool, cool, cool.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: I like all the bomb drops. First of all, have
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: we ever fucking had reference to Lorcan?
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: There has to have been, but I don't recall any
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: of it.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: I don't recall it either. And I'm usually really good
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: with that shit.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: You are really good.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: Also, Oddy, another thing. Dude. Do you ever remember this
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: dinner they're talking about that where like Queen Maeve, like
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: I seem to remember Queen Maeve visiting that place that
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Selina was staying at in Air of Fire, right? You know,
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: where she was staying and training. I seem to remember
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: Queen Maeve visiting there for a dinner. But what I
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: don't remember is the referencing. So apparently at this dinner,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: there was a fucking ex-lover of Rowan's there that was
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: like taunting Selina. I can't remember that.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: I remember the dinner they're talking about. The next level
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: is taunting Selena.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: I also barely remember this dinner. I had to fucking
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: really think about it. The only thing I can think
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: of is, to be fair, I read Heir of Fire
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: within literally a week and a half, two weeks. I
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: think it was there. I do remember. It was like
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: three pages, not even.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Vaguely. Fuck sakes. I was like, did I miss a
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: complete chapter of this book of Heir of Fire? Anyway,
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: because I like blitzed through it because I was enjoying it,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: but I usually really pick up on shit anyway. That's
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: what I wanted to ask. I just couldn't remember if
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: there was reference to Lorcan.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know about Lorcan.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: I don't remember anything about Lorcan. Comment below. I feel
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: like Lorcan, I have a feeling. I don't know. I
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: might look it up quickly because I might just to confirm.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: So I think Lorcan is the, I have a feeling
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: he's part of the Cater, right? But he's the only
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: one that doesn't actually shift into an animal. Does that
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: make sense? It could, but... Who is Lorcan? Throne of Glass.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Are you giving something away in a sense of like
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: you might find out who he is more?
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: True, that's a good point. I feel like I don't
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: want to really look up too much. But he's supposed
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: to be the strongest and also sexiest or some shit.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: Everyone's a sexiest. Yeah, that's a good point.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: Everyone's a sexiest. Part of this book that I thought
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: was so... I don't know. I thought it was so weird,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: maybe sweet. I just don't think it's sweet. So, Rowan,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: Slayna's making Rowan sleep in her bed, right? And he's
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: kind of like, this isn't the Fae realm, right? When
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: we were doing that, where we were, we did it
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: purely platonically, right? No one bats an eye at that
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: type of shit where we are in the realm of Doronel.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: He's like, here, it's going to send a message, right?
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: Especially if I'm like taking a blood oath and I've like,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: you know, committed my life to protect you type shit
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: and like serve you. And she's kind of like, bro, chill.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: We do what we want here. He's like, seriously, I
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: think about this. You're a queen. He's going to bite
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: Selene in the bum, 100%. She's still so naive.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: And so she's like, no, no, no, no, no.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: Like, it's fine.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: It's fine. It's fine. And I was kind of like, look,
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: I think it was good of him to like say
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: that and warn her. And then I thought, what did
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: I think? Oh, and also he's kind of like, Another
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: reason I don't want to sleep in bed with her
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: is because I like have feelings for her. He like
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: admits thinking she's beautiful and feeling something for her and
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: missing her and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And dreaming
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: about it while they were apart, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: But this is the part I'm wigging out about that.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's sweet. I'm leaning towards this
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: is so sus and just so mean is he goes,
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: when I first met her, I didn't think she was beautiful.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: I didn't realize she was beautiful. And he's like, he
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: doubles down and he's like, I actually took, it took
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: me a couple months to realize that she was pretty
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: at all. I was like, come on, bro. I know.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Is that like, because she was grieving Nehemia when they met,
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: wasn't she? And she was like in the pits kind
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: of and just like looking for fights.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: That's a good point. And she was in that, whatever
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: that city was called.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: It's one of those things you can keep to yourself,
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  Speaker 2: isn't it?
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: To be fair, it was in a monologue thought, but
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: I also just thought I didn't want to know that.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: I don't care. Yeah, true.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: Funny though.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: Very funny. But no, I'm very happy as well. This
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: book's great. Very enjoyable. Hectic book, eh? Something I've found
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: while reading both Crescent City and Queen of Shadows at
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: the same time is So once I like really start
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: to read Crescent City, I get into it the same amount, right?
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: I get into it, I get into it, I get
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: into it. But then when we record one of these
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: and I can go read more chapters of Queen of Shadows,
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: I think about Queen of Shadows a lot more. And
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: it's like I kind of yearn to read it a
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: lot more. Like the last two days, I could have
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: read Crescent City, but I didn't. Yeah. Because I had
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: read these chapters and we hadn't recorded yet. Well, I
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's like, I also feel we've, because I edit
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: the book clubs, I quite like going through them again.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: And I do feel the reliving of it and almost
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: like makes you experience it and think about.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: It even more. Yeah.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: Which is maybe what the audience is feeling as well,
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: which is a bit of a perk.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: Or just the book is better.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: I've seen more resounding consensuses that Throne of Glass is
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: better than Crescent.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: City, I reckon. I am going to say so far, agreed. Yeah.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: You know what else I think? So, Throne of Glass,
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: I also think is better than ACOTAR. Shit. I'm not
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: A & A. Do you want to know? Do you
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: want to hear another hot take? What? I think Crescent
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: City is better than ACOTAR. Really? Yeah.
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: Crescent City? It's just cooler.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Bro, I'm telling you, Bryce Quinlan, like, Bryce Quinlan is
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: the coolest main character of any book I think I've read. Like,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: The only one that compares to me right now is
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: either Selena, or you might want to call it Aylin,
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know, and Darrow from fucking Red Rising. Those
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: are the only two that compare to me right now.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: I think Bryce is the best out of the three, though.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: I will say the depth of Throne of Glass is
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: so much more than Akatar already.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I see why you would say that, too.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: I think... Akital was an easier read, though, I reckon.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: Like in a sense of just like to follow and
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: just like you kind of just dip in and out.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: It's just exciting. It's very surface level, but it's really,
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: really good. Whereas this seems to be like, ooh, wah, wah.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: And there's a lot of characters like that. But there's
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: some good takes.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: So shall we finish on predictions?
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: Yes, we should. Right. I am predicting that... I don't
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: know if it will happen in this book, but I'm
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: predicting that Rowan's entire cater ends up serving Selina or
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: Queen Aelin. Yeah, Lorcan included. I don't think Lorcan's a villain.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: I think Lorcan, I think he's made out to be
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: a villain. I have a feeling, I hope at least,
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: I think Lorcan will end up coming good. Even though
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: we haven't met him yet, I might change my mind.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: I think that there's going to be a war with
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: Queen Maeve before there's a war with the King of Ardalan.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: I do see that as well.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: I feel like the war with the King will be
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: more the next book or like the last book, obviously.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: Last one, yeah, for sure.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: I'm so intrigued by Manon's thing and I just am
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: so sure Manon's going to switch sides. I'm so sure
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: of it.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, I 100% agree with that. Also, I reckon, do
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: you think in this book, Doran will be able to
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: show that he's still in there to Selana somehow and
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: they'll figure out how to get him out? Yes.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like it will be this book. Yeah.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: And then Kale will be like, oh my God, I've
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: got my boy back. And then maybe Kale will start
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: to like side with them again.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, here's something I want to tell you. That could potentially...
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: confirm what you are saying is i saw a comment
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: you might have seen it too apparently people think that
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: um kale is going to redeem himself in this book.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: I did see that everyone's like just you wait like
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: you actually might like kale again um and then arabin
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: like i after what you said last week about you're
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: hoping arabin dies and like that's the end of him
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: i quite like i was sitting on that i think
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: i like that as well Here's the.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: Reason why I don't anymore, though. I've got to tell
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: you why. I think that he's the only one. So,
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: there's two ways that they fund their war, right? So, Selina. So,
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: let's just call Selina Terrison. Terrison versus Ardalan, right? Ardalan
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: has all the money already. They're funding their side. Terrison,
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: the only thing they can do is either take donations
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: or people signing up and not being paid.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: Forgot about that, yeah.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: And so, I think that there's two ways they pay
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: for it. Either... Because they constantly talk about Adolin being
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: as rich as the king. Sorry. They constantly talk about
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: Arobin being as rich as the king. They've said it
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: at least four times in the whole series. They always
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: say it. So I think that they have to sell
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: out and be funded by him or kill him, take
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: all his money. Right? And then if neither of those happen,
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: it's got to be because they go fuck up good
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: old Maevee and take all her.
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: Shit ah shit i missed that a bit the first
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: one like teaming up with arabin because arabin's like a
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: plotter and schemer he knows when people like want him
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: dead like he's going to come in and be like
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: guys you need my money i'm happy to help like
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: in return like i want.
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: He mentions that he mentions that he literally mentions that
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: so yeah he actually does mention something a about you
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: know what i can provide or some shit shit and
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: he doesn't like the king because he's like the king's
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: fucking up my city man legit all my business all
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: right we'll leave it at that chapters we're doing 10
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: more let's do 10 more and then we'll decide from
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: there if we're going to do 20 more we might
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: want to do 20 after that but let's try and
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: do 10 more so we can get properly.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: Ahead so we'll go to chapter 40 next and there's
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: 85 or no there's.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: 89 chapters holy shit So we'll be there halfway. There's
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: got to be a few little tiny ones of like
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: two pages in there. Yeah.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: There was a few short chapters in this one, actually.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: It was like two short ones. That's a good point.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: So we'll see you next week. Baddies, 10 chapters. And Patreon,
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• 57:02
  Speaker 2: No, but before Akatar comes out, sorry, the sixth book,
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  Speaker 2: Splintered Harmony, I would like to do like a sort of,
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know how to do it. Comment below, Baddies,
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  Speaker 2: because obviously we can't read the whole fucking series again. No.
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  Speaker 1: Right before it comes out.
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  Speaker 2: A recap sort of episode, but I don't know how
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• 57:21
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• 57:24
  Speaker 2: He said yes already. So he's currently reading it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: He's going to be finished him. So his memory will be, um,
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• 57:33
  Speaker 2: way to do that. Maybe there's a good website that
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: has like great sort of like, um, book summaries or something.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah. To be fair, like I could probably give a
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: 30 minute rundown of everything. Very loose.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: I remember Akita Akuri, but I want it more like...
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: You know when you go to watch The Hobbit, but
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: you go watch Lord of the Rings before because you
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: just want the fucking juicy nitty gritty of it, right?
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: And you're fresh in your mind, but you know what happens.
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: It's like that. Okay, now I hear you. All right, baddies,
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: we love you. Stay bad.