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I Am All In…Again: The Beauty and Pain of Unspoken Love (Season 2 E4 “The Road Trip to Harvard”) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in again.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, let's just you.
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  Speaker 3: I am all in again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am on Podcast one eleven productions.
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  Speaker 1: I heart Radio Media. There's such a big company. They
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  Speaker 1: have so many different categories. I gotta split up I
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  Speaker 1: heart Podcasts at three major categories. Wow. And we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: do a recap Road to Harvard with the one and
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  Speaker 1: only Ariel Cabell. How you doing, Ariel good.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so happy to be back on this with you.
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  Speaker 1: I know, Aaron and I are. I gotta tell you
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  Speaker 1: we're Let's just tell the people we're real good together.
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  Speaker 1: But you know what the thing is, I think you're
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  Speaker 1: good with everybody. It's me that's the issue. Right. So
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  Speaker 1: it's like, I think you're good with everybody. You make
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  Speaker 1: everybody look good. So we did a we did a
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  Speaker 1: very nice convention together up in New Milford, Connecticut, with
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  Speaker 1: these great promoters and and so you you host the
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  Speaker 1: panels or you hosted mine anyway, Yeah, and there was
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  Speaker 1: like a thousand people fans there, and I mean, you're
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  Speaker 1: so good at that and you just own that space
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  Speaker 1: and you come on and they fall in love with you,
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  Speaker 1: and I could basically say anything I want. They're still
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  Speaker 1: going to like me because they like you so much.
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  Speaker 1: And that's how it is. I give you all the credit.
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  Speaker 2: That's very kind. That was a great group of people,
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  Speaker 2: wasn't it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that was pretty We were.
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  Speaker 3: Like, wow, we got hit with the energy and then
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  Speaker 3: and you were so fun on stage. I feel like
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  Speaker 3: we had we had such a blast going back and
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  Speaker 3: forth and then bringing on that that I forget his.
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  Speaker 1: Name, oh the guy the guy that fell on office chair.
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  Speaker 2: But you know what a great way to make it
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  Speaker 2: on stage.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, so we're sitting let me I'll tell the story.
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  Speaker 1: So we're sitting there, we're sitting there with Ariel goes
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  Speaker 1: up on stage. The fans are going crazy. So I
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  Speaker 1: come up. She introduces me, and we're going to talk
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  Speaker 1: and we're getting into our talk and the fans are pomped,
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  Speaker 1: and there's a guy, a couple sitting in the front
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  Speaker 1: row to the right of us, and the guy his
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  Speaker 1: chair collapses like just fall on like the I mean,
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  Speaker 1: just like bam. He slams down on the ground and Ariel,
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  Speaker 1: quick thinker that she is, you know, turns it into
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  Speaker 1: a win for everybody and says, you know, are you
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  Speaker 1: okay this kind of thing, and gets him up on stage,
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  Speaker 1: sits him down next to this next thing. I know,
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  Speaker 1: there's a guy sitting next to me and we're interviewing
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  Speaker 1: the guy. His wife is going crazy, just applauding and
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  Speaker 1: crying hysterically. He's like, well, how did I get up here?
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  Speaker 1: He's not thinking of his you know, his bruised buttocks
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  Speaker 1: that he fell on. He's not thinking of any of that.
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  Speaker 2: He was okay. I was so relieved to.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, he hit the floor. He hit the floor
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  Speaker 1: pretty hard.
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  Speaker 2: He did. But that turned into it. It was a
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  Speaker 2: great thing.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, I have to say that is you know,
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  Speaker 3: people feel very strongly about Taylor Swift.
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  Speaker 2: They either love her or they're not really in her
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  Speaker 2: in her universe. I personally love her.
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  Speaker 3: But one of the things that I've taken away from
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  Speaker 3: her eras tour that swept the world by storm was
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  Speaker 3: how she always it doesn't matter how big the arena is,
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  Speaker 3: she always connects to her audience, to her fan.
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  Speaker 2: I think that is such a beautiful lesson.
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  Speaker 3: For every performer, every human being, like you know, to
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  Speaker 3: just never get so caught up that you lose track
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  Speaker 3: of what's in front of you and who's in front
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  Speaker 3: of you and being pressed to them. And so I
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  Speaker 3: just feel like with hosting, it's so important to just
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  Speaker 3: constantly keep checking in.
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  Speaker 2: With our audience.
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  Speaker 3: And so, I don't know, I feel like I give
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  Speaker 3: her credit for inspiring me to just no matter how
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  Speaker 3: nervous I am or what's going on in my head,
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  Speaker 3: to just always check in with the audience and connect
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  Speaker 3: with them and know that like that when you break
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  Speaker 3: that wall, that is what makes things so special because
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  Speaker 3: you're bringing everyone together and then that's like, that's the
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  Speaker 3: full experience. And so I don't know, and I've watched
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  Speaker 3: her so many times connect with her audience and check
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  Speaker 3: on people or like send security like that person needs help.
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  Speaker 1: All right, listen, listen. I'm just gonna make it simple
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  Speaker 1: for everybody. Okay. You know, even if Taylor Swift didn't exist,
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  Speaker 1: you still have a gift. You have a gift with people,
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  Speaker 1: all right. That's all there is to it. It doesn't
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  Speaker 1: Matt Taylor Swift doesn't matter right now. It's that you
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  Speaker 1: have a gift. You know how to do this. You
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  Speaker 1: know the audience just like they just lean in their's
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  Speaker 1: area there and anybody you're with. It's going to benefits.
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  Speaker 1: Stop it, all right, I'm giving credits to billionaires. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: don't do it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Well, hey, we have another con coming up together too,
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  Speaker 2: so that'll be fun.
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  Speaker 1: How we do which one in Savannah? Oh?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so y'all come on out.
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  Speaker 1: It'll you're going You're going to Savannah?
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  Speaker 2: What is Savannah? I know, I'm so excited.
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  Speaker 1: Are you gonna do You're gonna do my panel? Right?
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  Speaker 1: Please do my panel?
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  Speaker 3: We're on We're definitely on one together. But I think
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  Speaker 3: there's someone else on it too from Gilmore.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think there's a couple of people. Yeah, no,
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  Speaker 1: but I want you to host the panel. Oh okay,
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  Speaker 1: Savannah June sixth, June seventh, Savannah, Georgia, Epicans be there
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  Speaker 1: and Boise, Idaho. I'm gonna be in Boise by the way,
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  Speaker 1: speaking of cons and if you're not in Boise, Idaho,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be really upset and I'm gonna try to
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  Speaker 1: get him to bring you up there.
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  Speaker 2: What's that?
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  Speaker 1: May sixteen, seventeen. I'm gonna be in Boise, Idaho. So anyway,
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  Speaker 1: Savannah's going to be a blast.
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  Speaker 2: I can't wait. Do you know I've never been.
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  Speaker 1: I well, I used to play ball there. I played
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  Speaker 1: for the Savannah Braves in nineteen eighty one. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: kidding the.
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  Speaker 3: Idea that you played Atlanta, Gosh transferred up to New York.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know it was in Savanna.
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  Speaker 1: Savannah's a Braves double a team. Yeah so, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I've been there and since nineteen eighty one. I'm looking
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  Speaker 1: for That's gonna be fun. That's gonna be fun.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know if you've ever done epicons before,
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  Speaker 3: but it's a really three group of people too.
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  Speaker 1: So I hope you havn't done Yeah, I do too.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's get into the episode. Okay, this is
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  Speaker 1: a synopsis of this episode. After calling off the wedding
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  Speaker 1: to Max, Laurel I takes a road trip with Rory
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  Speaker 1: to Harvard University, where Rory glimpses her future and Laurel
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  Speaker 1: I reflects on her past and white what might have
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  Speaker 1: been directed by Jamie Babbitt, you Know or Your Lover
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  Speaker 1: Her written by Daniel Palladino. And now let's get into
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  Speaker 1: this car ride and the bed and breakfast. The engagement's
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  Speaker 1: now broken off, Laura, I and Rory go on the
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  Speaker 1: road trip. They go to b and b Uh and
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  Speaker 1: these two are sharing a bed. So she tells Laura
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  Speaker 1: she believes she really loves Max. Rory believes that and
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  Speaker 1: will regret leaving him. They get into that fight. They
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  Speaker 1: get into that shouting match. Made me a tad uncomfortable
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  Speaker 1: watching these two go at each other's throats. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: like that.
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  Speaker 2: What made you uncomfortable about it?
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  Speaker 1: I don't like the yelling. Really, I don't like the yelling.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, do you feel the same if it's
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  Speaker 3: like you in an.
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  Speaker 2: Argument with more lie versus versus Rory.
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  Speaker 1: I know I love to yell. I just don't like
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  Speaker 1: hearing it. Yeah, I'm a big fan of the yelling.
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  Speaker 1: I like the yelling, but these two that's not why
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  Speaker 1: I bought the ticket, you know. I didn't buy a
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  Speaker 1: ticket to see them yell at each other and like it, honest, Like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: don each and I know that's part of life, and
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  Speaker 1: I got it. I'm a big boy, but I just
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  Speaker 1: I just don't like to say it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I will say you know what I appreciated
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  Speaker 3: about it again, was like I feel like it was
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  Speaker 3: a bit ahead.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if I would say you ahead of
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  Speaker 2: its time.
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  Speaker 3: But what Amy and Dan did really well that we
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  Speaker 3: didn't see a lot in television, especially back then, was
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  Speaker 3: like to have a mother daughter be.
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  Speaker 2: Best friends but also be able to argue and yell
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  Speaker 2: like that. I actually think it's really important because that
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  Speaker 2: is a part of life.
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  Speaker 1: Rory thinks that Laurel I loves Max, but Laurel I
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  Speaker 1: knows she doesn't. Do you think Rory is right? You
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  Speaker 1: think Laurel I knows how she feels.
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  Speaker 2: That's a bigger question.
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  Speaker 1: But that's the telling line of the scene when Laura
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  Speaker 1: I says I wished, I wish I loved him? She doesn't, right,
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  Speaker 1: And she does in a way, right, I mean, but
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  Speaker 1: it's not the big enchilada. It was a horrible analogy.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, Yeah, tell me a minute.
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  Speaker 1: But okay, yeah, but here's a bigger question. Do you
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  Speaker 1: think it's because somewhere and moralized soul, she really loves
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  Speaker 1: Luke and she just doesn't grasp I mean, I.
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  Speaker 2: Mean, uh, I thought that's where you were going to
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  Speaker 2: go to begin with. I thought, where she loves Luke.
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  Speaker 3: But but I also think it brings up an interesting
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  Speaker 3: going back to the mother daughter thing with you know,
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  Speaker 3: you can know someone so well, like these two women
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  Speaker 3: know each other so well like best friends, but at
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  Speaker 3: the same time, at the end of the day, you
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  Speaker 3: can't deny that they are a different age obviously mother daughter,
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  Speaker 3: but I need like I, you know, my partner has
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  Speaker 3: a fourteen year old and I run into this all
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  Speaker 3: the time now, where like she so flies me on
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  Speaker 3: her years, she teaches me things every single day, and
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  Speaker 3: then every now and again she says something and I'm
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  Speaker 3: like reminded of like, oh, that's so sweet.
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  Speaker 2: There's that innocence, you know.
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  Speaker 3: And sometimes I think, like with Laura I, maybe saying
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  Speaker 3: she wished she loved him and knowing deep downside it
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  Speaker 3: is Luke and maybe not.
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  Speaker 2: Being able to come to those being able to base
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  Speaker 2: that in this moment. Also, I thought, I think it's
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  Speaker 2: a sweet.
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  Speaker 3: Reminder that Rory is younger and maybe hasn't experienced life
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  Speaker 3: the way Laura I has, hasn't had loves yet.
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  Speaker 2: The way Laura I has.
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  Speaker 3: Like you know, she is in a different place in
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  Speaker 3: her life and in her in her love life, and
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  Speaker 3: they I think that's reflected back too, because also Laura
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  Speaker 3: Sowhat so often acted like the kid, you know, which
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  Speaker 3: was like part of the funny appeal. But maybe in
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  Speaker 3: certain moments then it gets confusing when she really does
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  Speaker 3: know something about herself. Then maybe the daughter that that
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  Speaker 3: Rory isn't quite understan standing yet, not there in her
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  Speaker 3: own life yet.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Okay, all right, let's go to Harvard. That's very
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  Speaker 1: very well said, by the way. So they go to Harvard, right,
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  Speaker 1: they both they both kind of fit right in there, right,
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  Speaker 1: and loyalize having a lot of fun with the you know,
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  Speaker 1: the student there and skeechy and all this, and he
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  Speaker 1: hits on her and you're in the same class as
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  Speaker 1: I am, the whole thing, so good stuff. So they
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  Speaker 1: sneak into an open dorm room, take pictures somebody's dorm room,
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  Speaker 1: and Rory even takes a seat in the lecture hall,
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  Speaker 1: which I found very satisfying.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, what is you satisfying about?
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  Speaker 4: That?
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  Speaker 1: Is that she gained her confidence, that she went in
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  Speaker 1: there in a very intimidating situation and got involved with
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  Speaker 1: the discussion and made some real contributions to discussion, and
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  Speaker 1: it made her feel good. And it's it's like real
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  Speaker 1: validation and the hard work paying off and like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I can compete at this level, and isn't that a
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  Speaker 1: wonderful thing? And what a great moment for the show
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  Speaker 1: and a great more moment for for her personally. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I love those kinds of scenes where it's just like
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  Speaker 1: it all just sort of comes together a little bit
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  Speaker 1: and it's like, ah, something so positive about it's so
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  Speaker 1: great for her and Laurelie watching her excel at Harvard
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  Speaker 1: and she's really you know, and I don't even need
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  Speaker 1: to ask you this question. We just went over it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, she's realizing something about her own life, and
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  Speaker 1: laurelizes having another experience. She's you think she's feeling she
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  Speaker 1: missed out on her college heres because she's looking at
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  Speaker 1: those valed victorians. Yeah, this could have been my life,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, all that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 3: But also again something that how do you tell your
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  Speaker 3: your child that because.
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  Speaker 2: It's you know, it's not her fault.
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  Speaker 3: You can't you can't put that weight on to her, right,
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  Speaker 3: And so it it's a deep, deep internal.
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  Speaker 2: Struggle and deep reflection of like, oh wow, you know,
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  Speaker 2: but I also think like that.
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  Speaker 3: Then again, it goes back to the thing of every
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  Speaker 3: parent tries to give their kid more than they.
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  Speaker 2: Had, right, you know.
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  Speaker 3: So it's like, you know, how can I make your
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  Speaker 3: life better to like and and heal the wounds that
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  Speaker 3: I went through or make sure that you.
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  Speaker 2: Don't have to go through what I went through. So
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  Speaker 2: I think it's both think. I think it's there's beauty
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  Speaker 2: in it and there's pain in it, and I think that, like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, that's what the show does.
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  Speaker 3: So well, oh, you know, let's do this together and
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  Speaker 3: you're on this journey and then boom, right, these big
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  Speaker 3: life moments hits you in the face.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, my own personal experience, anything I've accomplished
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  Speaker 1: in my life pales in comparison to when I watch
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  Speaker 1: my son excel and there's just no better feeling. You
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  Speaker 1: can't top it. It's just, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 1: this is all great and how life is turning out
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  Speaker 1: and all that. I could trade it in just to
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  Speaker 1: watch him excel, you know. And I think any parent
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  Speaker 1: would say the same thing. All right, So the camera
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  Speaker 1: zoom's in on a picture of that nineteen ninety valve Victoria.
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  Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out who she was, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I keep reading the name, and says she in a
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  Speaker 1: prior episode. Is she going to be in a future episode?
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  Speaker 1: Who is this person? It's not that it's the year, right,
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  Speaker 1: it's nineteen ninety, it was you know. Well now it's
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  Speaker 1: like season two, so it's eleven years prior. Right, it's
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  Speaker 1: a two thousand and twenty and eleven years prior. She
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  Speaker 1: was what she was twenty or twenty one, because she's
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  Speaker 1: thirty two now, right, so she's twenty one and this
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  Speaker 1: could have been her graduation picture because she had that
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  Speaker 1: potential according to Emily, right, Yeah, she full of regret,
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  Speaker 1: she's seeing the future for her daughter, all those things.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think it is? Is it a mix?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: I mean I don't think. I think just being human,
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  Speaker 2: it has to be a mix. Like, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: either there's something wrong.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe there's something wrong with me, but like I can't
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  Speaker 3: imagine that that was me.
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  Speaker 2: I would feel.
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  Speaker 3: All of those things. I would feel, Wow, what could
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  Speaker 3: have been?
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  Speaker 2: Wow? Look at the track I was on. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: even realize it. And then off off.
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  Speaker 3: I went to this other path and then oh my god,
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  Speaker 3: I'm so proud of her, Oh my god, I want
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  Speaker 3: for her when I never had you know. And then
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  Speaker 3: also who knew having a kid would bring me back
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  Speaker 3: to this place where actually, maybe I can have these
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  Speaker 3: joint experiences with the way that I never saw the
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  Speaker 3: opportunity before because of having her and me.
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  Speaker 1: Right, she can get all this reward and stimulation without
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  Speaker 1: having to study.
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  Speaker 2: Right right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, perfect, And somebody else is playing the bill. It's great,
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  Speaker 1: perfect setup for all right, So let's go back to stars.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: So Suki is spreading the news of Laurelized broken engagement,
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  Speaker 1: leaving Luke as the last person to find out when
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  Speaker 1: he does his whole mood shift. So Luke is thrilled
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  Speaker 1: when he hears about this, Uh the sad news.
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  Speaker 3: Wait, I want to go back stuff for one second.
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  Speaker 3: Did they ever tell you storylines before?
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  Speaker 2: Did you find out.
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  Speaker 1: At table reads table reads?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so the first time you're reading this and
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  Speaker 3: you're finding out about it is either you know, night
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  Speaker 3: before table read at table read pretty close to real time.
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  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, we get we get the script pretty last minute,
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  Speaker 1: so we would get them maybe the day before the
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  Speaker 1: table reads. Sometimes we wouldn't, but yeah, usually we got
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  Speaker 1: a script in the mailbox or they'd throw it over
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  Speaker 1: the fence or something, throw it over the fence, sometimes
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  Speaker 1: in a plastic bag, sometimes not. So when I'd get it,
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  Speaker 1: it would be soaked a lot of the times. Wow, yeah, sprinkless, sprinklish,
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  Speaker 1: we get it. So I think I actually told them
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  Speaker 1: it's like, could you put in a plastic bag because
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  Speaker 1: like you know, it takes me forever to dry these
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  Speaker 1: things out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know. It's like when we wait when
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: we started. Yeah, and even if you.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: Got script revision revisions, they would have a PA would
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: deliver them to you.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Yes, that night you had.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: Them on set. The next day there was no emailing,
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: there was no scene.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: No, Yeah, somebody got on their scooter and got it
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: to wild.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Anyway, so let's let's there's there's so many things that
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: happen here. Uh Suki tells Luke about the wedding being
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: off as mood lifts everything. Coffee is on the house now.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Laurela and Rory arrived back in town. Everyone in Stars
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Hollow shows some empathy as they drive. Kirk says you
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: need a hug. Miss Patty dabs a tear in her eye,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: and then Laurel I has a moment as she pulls
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: up to the house and sees the hoopa and she
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: she kind of and you know what I noticed about
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: the hoopa. That's a lot of grapes on there, wooden grapes.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Did you see how many wooden graps? Can you see?
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Luke just sort of standing all of those wooden grapes?
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: There were there were dozens of wooden grapes. And you
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: forget about the goat, right?
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: That was so funny.
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: I feel like, obviously you are and where you would
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: notice that, but I did didn't notice.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to go back and look for that.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: I'll talk about Emily's reaction to Lurlai telling her the
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: news that the wedding with Max is all well.
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: I feel like with her, you always expect like something dramatic, right,
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: Like That's how that's the fun of watching her.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Is the drama. I mean, and she's such an incredible actress.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: I when I'm trying to put myself in her shoes.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: I I guess I get to say I just kind
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: of expected it or a version of it, you know,
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, what did you think I she's I mean,
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: she's just kind of she's so no matter what situation.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: I think the thing that's fun about watching her is
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: that she's always going to be like so kind of
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: you know, dry and condescending but real but eloquent but inappropriate,
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: Like you know.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: She's just.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Her character was just so fun to watch because it
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: just really sometimes couldn't believe that was like happening, and
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: she pulled it off so well. She like she's so
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: classy but then harsh.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Do you think there was a sense of relief maybe
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: on Emily's part?
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Maybe I get yeah, I mean it's like I was saying,
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: I wasn't really surprised, because I feel like why I
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: always watched Emily was because you just you're hoping that
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: you don't know what she's gonna do or say next,
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Like that is what's so fun about her character.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: So like I knew it wasn't gonna go well, you.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Know, like.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: See, that's the consistency that I love about Emily's character.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: You know, you know it's not gonna go well, it's.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Not gonna go well, but you just delight in how
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: you delight in the dialogue, you delight in what she
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: says and how she reacts. It's just so much fun
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: to watch her, right, She.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: Is an incredible actress and I feel like with her,
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: you could always tell that she's like classically trained because
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: of how she just not just body the character, but
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: like yeah, I just felt like from head to toe,
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: every breath of her is so.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: She just became yeah.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean. And so it's like, yeah,
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: look forward to it. You're like, what is she going
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: to say?
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: All right, here's a closing scene, right, so Lane's back
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: from Korea. That was fun. Laurel I takes a seat
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: at Luke Steiner. Luke apologizes for being a jerk to Max.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: She also, yeah, like now is a convenient time to
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: apologize for being a jerk after gloating over the corpse
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: of Max. Right he laid that dragon. Oh it's a jerk.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: I'm really sorry. It's very convenient. She also tells uh
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Luke he's she's keeping the hookah with all the wooden grapes.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Laurel I says she is finally going to open the
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: inn with Suki. Now, so this is a nice feat.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: So it seems like she's getting reassur reassurance from Luke
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: about starting her own business, and he's, you know, he's
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: truly supportive. He really really is. Maybe that's what was
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: missing in the relationship with Max.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: The support. Yeah maybe. I mean, when you read.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: The script and you saw what was happening, what did
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: you did you feel like, Oh, this may be a
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: moment where Lorlyon and Luke don't come back together, or
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: this is one more kind of not on their story
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: and they're going to keep circling each other.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Nah. I always knew they were just going to toy
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: with the audience year after year, and I was just
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: gonna have to go through it. They didn't tell me,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: they didn't tell me their plans. I was not I
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: was not given any storylines. But I just thought, nah, yeah,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: I never really got nervous. I never really got nervous that,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: oh god, my job is in jeopardy, or at least
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: my my status on the show.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Was Yeah, yeah, I just I just felt.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: I just felt the chemistry was so good and the
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: story line is so good, and yeah, isn't it just
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: so brave and courageous of Amy and Dan to to
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: to slow burn it over over this period of time
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: And it wasn't even two years yet. The fans, because
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: the fans at this point were like, get them together.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I can't believe they're not together this, you know, you
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: gotta get them together. And I just kind of knew, man,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: they're gonna milk this for everything it's worth because I
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: remember having a conversation with Amy and Dan about it
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: and and they said, you know, you give you give
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: the fans what you want, what they want, and they
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: go away, and it's like, we got to really just
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: draw this out.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, great sentence they have.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: They have insight that if you have you know, they know,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: they know, they know drama.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: They know it, but they want and they go away.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Uh huh uh huh.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: I think I'd be scared to say that in today's world.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Oh no, and the Netflix world. Yeah, you gotta give
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: it to it right away. Like act one, they're together
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: and they're happy there. Yeah.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: But Amy and Dan are so gutsy. That's why I'm
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: I love them so much.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Do you think loral lined dream of opening that in
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: with Suki kind of tells us that and her dreams
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: might go beyond finding love or the one. I mean,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: it's like maybe it's like the real dream is to
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: be that that you know, that business woman who owns
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: her life, who owns her business, who's running the show.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: What do you think, sure, well, and the and the
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: control of it too, right, because like she she lost
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: it at such a young age, right, and you know,
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: the control of like her own destiny, making her own choices,
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: the way of her life that she saw her life
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: going versus what happened. And so I think that like
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: there is a sense of oh, Okay, this is something
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: that I.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Can create and control on my own time frame.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: And and you know, be proud of and put work
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: into and and build this with someone, right, like with Sookie,
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: like that partnership or you're not doing it alone.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: You know, it becomes like family a bit and and
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: all of that.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: But I also think like maybe that's also to the
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: draw between Luke and Lurlei, Like you know, with Luke's
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: coffee shop, and like you know, she sees that connection
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: and and and you know, it's like it becomes a
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: piece of home for everyone, Like that's that's people in
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: the town, Like that's their routine. You know, like people
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: went to Luke's for a reason, and it's it's more
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: than like a shop or you know, it's an experience.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: It's like so I think.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: Like maybe that was also the draw a little bit
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: between the two of them.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. The hoopa with them dozens
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: of wooden grapes with the hoopa, the hoopa has wooden goats.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Laura like keeping that, Laurai getting rid of it. Would
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: it remind her okay of a feuled max relationship or
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: would it remind her more of what Luke Michelangelo wooden
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: grape guy did for.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Her, Luke the grape guy, Luke the.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Wooden grape guy.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, tell you something. If she didn't want to be
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: reminded of either, she'd get rid of it.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Right. We got to watch out for that scene, the
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: the burning Hoopa. That's the ad for the new like
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: you know, the new Netflix thing, right, Gilmore Girls returns
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: with the burning Hoopa.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: No, No, that was fully That was her holding on
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: to Luke, holding on to These are the types of
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: things that make me happy.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: This is what I want.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: Maybe I'm not there yet, maybe I don't know, maybe
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: I'm confused, whatever, but this is.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: The reminder of something that makes me happy.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Right, Okay, So the town right, their reaction, they seem
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: very empathetic, right that she called off her wedding. Very
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: nice to see that kind of support. Let me ask
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: you something from from Lindsay's point of view, okay, because
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: you know, Lindsay really went through it, and could we
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: have seen more of a reaction from stars Hollow after
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: the sort of Rory Lindsey Dean love affair thing the triangle.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, if you want my answer now, I would
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: say hell yes'. But that's because I'm in a place
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: where I feel more comfortable and confident in saying so,
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: like when that'll happen.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Back in the day, I think I was telling you
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: this at the con.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: I was just so happy that I even got hired that, like,
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: they could have killed me in one episode and I
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: wouldn't have questioned it. I would just be like so
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: much for this experience, I will never forget it.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Like you know, I'm straight from Florida.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: I cannot believe that I'm not only in Hollywood on
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: a job in a back lot of a studio, but
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: like working with incredible actors on a show that happens
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: to be a hit.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: And I'm seventeen years old. So I didn't ever think.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: About like the importance of not just my character for
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: my storyline, but how it affected the town and the
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: people around And so it's a great question because now.
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: Like, yes, I would have loved that, But back then
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: I didn't even think about it.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: I just was like, you know, especially in my last day,
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: I just wanted to make sure that I got through
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: it without crying, that I was professional and everyone knew
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: that I was just you know, grateful for the time.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: And I think too, I had such little confidence in
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: myself that I think that I was like, well, yeah,
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: of course this happened.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Of course I had an end date. Of course, you
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: know I couldn't sustain it or be a part of
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: But I just I really I didn't.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: I had it definitely had you know, imposture syndrome to
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: syndrome to work through.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: So I never questioned it before.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: All right, So that's gonna be a wrap. Ariel. Such
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: a pleasure to talk to you again. You too, We
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: got we got to have you back on. I mean,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: this is just getting ridiculous. I mean, I miss I
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: miss you when you're gone.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: I would love to come back on.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm going to try and convince have you
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: had a mile or a couple of time, Oh okay,
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: maybe been together when because the movie comes out next spring.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: That would be so fun to do like Little Reunion
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: or something.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be really cool. Yeah, why don't we just
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: do our own convention and be at the corner of
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Santa Monica and Universal and there you go. Let's we'll
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: have microphones, I think way for people. No, that's a
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: great idea. That's actually a great idea. Talk to him
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: about it, you know, well, I.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Mean, yeah, I have no idea. I'm literally just spewing
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: that out of my mouth as we talk. So yeah,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: I'll talk.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: To right right right, all right, Ariel, Thank you so
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: very much. Always a great time with you, and thank
• 30:07
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• 30:09
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• 30:14
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• 30:17
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• 30:19
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• 30:49
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• 30:54
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