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Devers says NO DH, Mets lose Montas, Ohtani's arm prep, Trout to RF · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: You can't trade you. So okay, be clear and let.
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  Speaker 2: Me let let's call that plays out in Boston.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, AJ reported report on time. Good job a J.
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  Speaker 2: Why is this a story? We're not really going to
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  Speaker 2: talk about him? Just show like, why is this because
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  Speaker 2: we're doing what you're supposed to do, which you show
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  Speaker 2: up on time? I don't understand.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you report it on time, although you're only going
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  Speaker 1: to play catcher. And if I ask you to play
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  Speaker 1: first base or d H and you say no, I
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  Speaker 1: can send you home and not pay you. I did
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  Speaker 1: find out that little nugget this weekend. Did you know that?
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  Speaker 2: Do you mean what? So they can they can send
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  Speaker 2: Stroman home and not.
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  Speaker 1: Pay him if he says I won't be a reliever.
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  Speaker 1: That's not allowed. You have to do what the team
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  Speaker 1: says in terms of your role on the team. Did
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  Speaker 1: you know that?
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  Speaker 2: How? What else?
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  Speaker 1: Is that not true?
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  Speaker 2: What else? I mean? No?
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  Speaker 3: No, I don't don't. I don't want to play left
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  Speaker 3: field like you're putting me in the game. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 3: play like you're on the team. Of course, you gotta
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  Speaker 3: do what they have to say.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a starter.
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  Speaker 2: So it goes back to my phil Nevin story. So
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  Speaker 2: it goes back to my Phil Nevin story where Phil Nevin.
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  Speaker 2: They asked Phil Nevin, We're like, we're gonna trade you.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, nope, I got ten to five. I'm from
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  Speaker 2: San Diego. I love San Diego. I want to live
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  Speaker 2: here the rest of my life. And they're like, okay, Phil,
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  Speaker 2: tomorrow you're catching, and they put him in the lineup
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  Speaker 2: and he had to catch one game and he's like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: trade me, and they trade under the rangers.
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  Speaker 1: I think not fair that you tell that story. I
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  Speaker 1: feel like you should say it and then say if
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  Speaker 1: you don't know the story, then you're not listening or
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  Speaker 1: watching ft enough. But it is true. It is true.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's charge so we can get to a
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  Speaker 1: couple things quick.
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  Speaker 3: Charge.
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  Speaker 1: We are charging the mound. Alex Bregman is in camp,
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  Speaker 1: which is awesome, so we can show the pretty arrival
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  Speaker 1: and he gives a big hug to Alex Korra, his buddy.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, the Red Sox are operating a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more like the Red Sox now they're over the
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  Speaker 1: CBT luxury tax number two hundred and forty one million.
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  Speaker 1: They also got to pick back even though they lost
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  Speaker 1: to pick for Bregman, they got to pick back for
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  Speaker 1: Nick Paveta. But the real news and the real drama
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  Speaker 1: is where is Alex Bregman going to play? Did we
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  Speaker 1: get any hints from this note that Craig Breslow left
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  Speaker 1: the media.
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  Speaker 4: AC and I we have an obligation to the team,
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  Speaker 4: to the organization, and most importantly to our fans to
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  Speaker 4: put the best offensive and defensive team off field that
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  Speaker 4: we possibly can.
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  Speaker 2: Second base second base is going to play second base
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  Speaker 2: because they need I think they need they need casts
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  Speaker 2: in there, and then they can figure out a DH
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  Speaker 2: which is Yoshida and is the DH, and that's their
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  Speaker 2: best offense and their best defense. He's going to play
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  Speaker 2: second base if they because the problem is they put
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  Speaker 2: him at third, you lose Devers or Causes and or
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  Speaker 2: Yoshida or and or whoever else the DH can be.
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  Speaker 2: So because if Devers is DH's DH in every single day.
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  Speaker 2: So to me, he's gonna play second base spot on. OK.
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  Speaker 2: I get what you're saying.
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  Speaker 3: I get what you're saying that you heard him say
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  Speaker 3: both offense and defense, but you're you're hearing it for
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  Speaker 3: what you want to hear. Yes, they're a better team
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  Speaker 3: defensively with Bragman at third base. How much worse are
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  Speaker 3: they offensively? All this might dictate. It depends you're you're
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  Speaker 3: you're banking a lot on what Kristen Campbell is going
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  Speaker 3: to do to play second base, a rookie who has
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  Speaker 3: not been in the big leagues yet. You have a
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  Speaker 3: solidified if you think Bragman is going to be great offensively.
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  Speaker 3: Yoshida had the same had the same offensive output last
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  Speaker 3: year as Bragman.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I'll take Bregman, but I understand, I understand what
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  Speaker 1: you're saying. All right, we'll see what happens. Just was
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  Speaker 1: interesting to hear that. So you guys think if you
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  Speaker 1: were in charge a j you're manager of the Red Sox,
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  Speaker 1: this is what you would do. You would say, Alex,
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  Speaker 1: just go play second. That's going to be your spot.
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  Speaker 1: Go have fun.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, we need you to play the position
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  Speaker 2: that'll make us a better team, and the position that
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  Speaker 2: makes them a better team a second base, because Devers
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  Speaker 2: will be a third I know devers defense is questionable,
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  Speaker 2: but you need Cossus and you need Yoshida, and they
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  Speaker 2: don't want Yoshida to play left field, So that means
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  Speaker 2: if you have to put Bregman at third, that means
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  Speaker 2: Devs is your full time DH, and or Cosses. And
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  Speaker 2: they don't want that. They want Cosses to play every day,
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  Speaker 2: and they want Devors to figure out a way to
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  Speaker 2: play every day because it opens up options for the
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  Speaker 2: DH if you have Devors. It was like David Ortiz
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  Speaker 2: now David Ortiz in the Hall of Fame as a DH.
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  Speaker 2: But if David Ortiz is your everyday DH, guess who
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  Speaker 2: can't No one else can be the DH. No one
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  Speaker 2: else can be the DH unless David doesn't want to
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  Speaker 2: play one day and I gotta face David Price, right,
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  Speaker 2: But other than that, David Orts is your DH every day.
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  Speaker 2: Raphaeldevers is your DH. And you don't want to pay
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  Speaker 2: three hundred plus million for a guy that's a DH
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  Speaker 2: only I'm sorry they don't want to do it. They
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  Speaker 2: need him to play on the field, and unless they're
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  Speaker 2: gonna get rid of costUS or trade them, which they
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  Speaker 2: don't seem willing to do. Alex Pregnant, I'm sorry, you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna have to play second base for now, for now,
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  Speaker 2: until something happens.
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  Speaker 3: I love what and by the way. That was a
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  Speaker 3: punishment to you, not because David didn't want to face
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  Speaker 3: David Price. They were just punishing you while you were there.
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  Speaker 3: A j just saying, well, ask John Farrell at some
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  Speaker 3: point if they were punishing you were not, but no.
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  Speaker 2: They were. They were making sure David Price didn't throw
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  Speaker 2: it David and hit them, which he did when he
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  Speaker 2: eventually faced them. He eventually did face them and hit him,
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  Speaker 2: but it was more of a we don't want David
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  Speaker 2: to get hit by David Price. If he hits you,
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  Speaker 2: we don't really care, and we had already gotten into
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  Speaker 2: with them, so it was it was it was kind
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  Speaker 2: of a thing.
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  Speaker 3: That's great, that's that's good stuff to me. What Preslo said,
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  Speaker 3: the best team on the field to win now. I
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  Speaker 3: know Aj was leaning towards saying, well, you know, they
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  Speaker 3: don't want Costas there, they don't want Devers in the dah,
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  Speaker 3: they don't want to lose these guys. Normally the Red
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  Speaker 3: Sox are like, oh, you know, we got to make
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  Speaker 3: sure the future is I love that Breslo said, put
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  Speaker 3: the best team on the field to win now, because
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  Speaker 3: now this is when whether the Red Sox spend three
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  Speaker 3: hundred million in payroll or two hundred million. When a
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  Speaker 3: team like this says they want to win, now, that
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  Speaker 3: is that to me is a shift in an organizational
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  Speaker 3: shift because I didn't feel that the last few years.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you, And we have a guest,
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  Speaker 1: joenning us Soon who will ask just that question. Does
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  Speaker 1: he feel like the Red Sox are kind of back
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  Speaker 1: and spending again? So that first CBT number is two
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  Speaker 1: forty one, it sounds like they're in like the two
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  Speaker 1: forty seven range. So you pay a twenty percent tax
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  Speaker 1: for a big market team. It's it's literal pebbles. I
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  Speaker 1: want to get to Shoho Tani. So he's back on
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  Speaker 1: the mound, and the thing that stands out to me
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  Speaker 1: is not the velocity or okay, through fourteen fastballs ninety
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  Speaker 1: two to ninety four, h blah blah okay, it's just
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  Speaker 1: that he's on the mound and aj there's no past roadmap.
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  Speaker 1: So how do you think they're going to play this out?
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  Speaker 1: Do you think they're just going to say each day show, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: how do you feel? What should we do? And give
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  Speaker 1: him control? Which is remember what the Angels did after
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  Speaker 1: the first year or two they were being like really controlling,
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  Speaker 1: and then they kind of eased up and just said,
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  Speaker 1: how are you feeling today?
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  Speaker 2: No, I think they're gonna be careful and they're not
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  Speaker 2: going to give him control at all. Because they give
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  Speaker 2: him control, he's gonna want to pitch. I think they're
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  Speaker 2: gonna say. I think I think they're gonna say, listen,
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna take this as slow as possible. You won
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  Speaker 2: the MVP as a DH last year, go do that again.
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  Speaker 2: And when you pitch, you pitch. And I also think
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  Speaker 2: that they're gonna go one inning at a time with him,
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  Speaker 2: like he's going to start a game and pitch one inning,
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  Speaker 2: and then they're gonna have Sazaki, Glass Now, snell Yamamoto,
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  Speaker 2: Gonsolin May, whoever else they can sign before the spring
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  Speaker 2: training Kershaw maybe right. I mean, they're gonna have all
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  Speaker 2: these guys because he's there. He's not gonna go on
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  Speaker 2: a rehab assignment because he can't because he's got a hit.
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  Speaker 2: So he's gonna have to rehab at the big league level,
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  Speaker 2: and that's gonna involve him pitching in here two innings,
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  Speaker 2: three innings like a spring training because whether they can't
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  Speaker 2: send him down and be like, hey, go take a
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  Speaker 2: month and rehab your pitching arm. No, he's gonna have
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  Speaker 2: to rehab at the big league level. So it's gonna
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  Speaker 2: be interesting how they play it. But they're gonna take
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  Speaker 2: it super slow with them as they should.
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  Speaker 3: As they should, he doesn't know what it's like to
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  Speaker 3: come back from this type of Tommy John surgery, a
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  Speaker 3: second one, whether it's internal bracing or not, and so
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  Speaker 3: just make sure the team takes it slow. He's competitive.
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  Speaker 3: He'll get out there and give you everything he has
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  Speaker 3: when he when he's ready. But he'll also get out
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  Speaker 3: there opening day if you'd ask him, Hey, we really
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  Speaker 3: need this opening day.
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  Speaker 2: The Dodgers don't. So it's really on the Dodgers to
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  Speaker 2: keep him healthy.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they don't even need him to pitch until
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  Speaker 1: October most likely, but obviously they want to get him flowing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what he said.
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  Speaker 1: That's what he said.
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  Speaker 2: That's what he said.
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  Speaker 1: That's what he said. We've got an update to the
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  Speaker 1: position store that we were hitting at the top with
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: the red sox. What's going to happen here? And in
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  Speaker 1: my mind it's already getting ugly. Let's run the tweets first,
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  Speaker 1: and then we'll get the reactions. We've got three for you.
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  Speaker 1: Alex kra on the front office promise of Dever's playing
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  Speaker 1: third base for the Red Sox quote, Hi, I'm talking
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  Speaker 1: about bloom Is in Saint Louis now. That was from
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  Speaker 1: a Boston Strong Twitter account. Rob Bradford covers the team
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: wrote this tweet. Never said he flat out won't be
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: anything but a third baseman. They asked him about dhing
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  Speaker 1: on Friday. His answer was the same thing that he
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  Speaker 1: gave the media. No Chris Catillo quote here. It was
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  Speaker 1: definitely a surprise. I'm somebody that believes in people's world.
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  Speaker 1: I take it to heart. It was very surprising they'd
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  Speaker 1: suggest that. Since the beginning, I've known this as a business.
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  Speaker 1: Each side is going to do what's best for them
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  Speaker 1: and what's most comfortable for them. I don't think this
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  Speaker 1: was the right way to do business, but I've always
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  Speaker 1: known this is a business. I'm assuming I didn't see
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  Speaker 1: that this is a quote coming in from Devers that
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  Speaker 1: last one.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Okay. Basically, he took the Red Sox at their
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  Speaker 2: word that he would be a third base and now
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  Speaker 2: they're going back on it. It's basically what he's saying,
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  Speaker 2: not world. When you said world, it was word word.
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  Speaker 1: Oh oh sorry, okay, word, but it's sad word in
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  Speaker 1: the tweet. But it is world. This stuff's coming in hot.
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  Speaker 1: This is breaking news. Devers was not a good third
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  Speaker 1: baseman last year. He was battling a bit of an
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  Speaker 1: injury with his shoulder even at his prime. He will
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  Speaker 1: not touch Alex Bregman at third. We did this debate already. Also,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, AJ, remember they were going for Nolan Arnado.
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  Speaker 1: What would have happened? Then they're gonna put Nolan at
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  Speaker 1: first base? Mean, same kind of concept here. Obviously I
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  Speaker 1: stand on a different side here, But is this being
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  Speaker 1: handled the right way? When just a year ago I
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  Speaker 1: dig up quotes at this very time in spring training, quote,
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  Speaker 1: everybody knows what we need. Here's another quote I think
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  Speaker 1: they're thinking more in the future said ownership needs to
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  Speaker 1: make an adjustment to help US players to be in
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  Speaker 1: a better position to win.
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  Speaker 2: That sums it up. I mean, what what what Alex
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: Corras said is the is the quote of the quotes him?
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  Speaker 2: Blue's not here anymore. So guess what, RAFFI, you get
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  Speaker 2: what you get, Bro? You're gonna play wherever we tell
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  Speaker 2: you to play, because he's not gonna He's not gonna
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  Speaker 2: pull a uh uh, what's his name Stroman and be like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not gonna play like he's gonna play.
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  Speaker 2: So I mean he doesn't want to be a d
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  Speaker 2: H clearly, so what are you not? You're gonna claim
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  Speaker 2: that they're not gonna trade you. So you got to
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: play where you play. And right now, that's why Alex Bragman,
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  Speaker 2: at least the start is gonna be the second basement.
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: Kratz year two of a ten year contract. Alex Bragman,
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  Speaker 1: if it plays right, will be a free agent after
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  Speaker 1: this year. There's feathers being ruffled and a balance, But
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: Alex Korra has actually got a lot of power and
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  Speaker 1: a lot of might as a manager. Right He's one
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  Speaker 1: of those guys that kind of says it with his chest.
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  Speaker 1: So how do you think it's gonna play out when
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  Speaker 1: he's already setting little ground rules here and saying, I'm
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: bloom promise to do third base. I didn't promise you third base.
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  Speaker 3: It's going to play out really well because Alex has
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  Speaker 3: that cachet in the clubhouse. He has the ability to
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  Speaker 3: connect with those guys, and he's already done it. If
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  Speaker 3: he came in as a first year manager and said
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  Speaker 3: this stuff, whoa, whoa, whoa, Like this is our MVP
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  Speaker 3: candidate year in and year out in Raffie Devers. He's now
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  Speaker 3: managed Raffi. He has given him probably some platitude on
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  Speaker 3: different things, and he has probably been like, hey, you
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  Speaker 3: can't be doing this, and he's going to have to
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  Speaker 3: have those conversations. If he says it here, I don't believe.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know Alex well enough, but from what
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  Speaker 3: I'm perceiving.
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  Speaker 2: I don't believe this is the first time he's told
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  Speaker 2: Devers this stuff.
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  Speaker 3: And it's okay that Dever says something and then Alex
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  Speaker 3: says something. It's up to him to put the best
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  Speaker 3: team out in the field and to get those guys
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  Speaker 3: to play their best wherever they're playing.
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  Speaker 1: So how does this play out? You guys ever witnessed
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  Speaker 1: something like this, would you be disappointed? Aj If you're
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  Speaker 1: a veteran on the team and you just saw your
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  Speaker 1: franchise player who's been begging for more activity. It happens
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  Speaker 1: to be a guy that plays your position and he's
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  Speaker 1: giving them a hard no right from the jump.
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  Speaker 2: Would I be disappointed. No, I'd be like, Okay, guys,
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  Speaker 2: I get it. Everybody wants to win and everybody wants
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  Speaker 2: to play. Of course he's gonna say this because he
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  Speaker 2: wants to play third base. But at the end of
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  Speaker 2: the day, it's not his decision. It's the organizational's decision.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll see how this plays out. But I wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: be disappoint at all. I'd be like, yeah, I get it, Raffi
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  Speaker 2: Devers wants to play third base. Good for him. Guess what,
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  Speaker 2: it might not work out.
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  Speaker 3: It's not It's not a player thing. This is This
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  Speaker 3: is just a Raffie Devers thing, Like this is not
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  Speaker 3: like Tristan Constas, isn't like oh man, I hope, I
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  Speaker 3: hope Raffi's okay with this. Like players are going to
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  Speaker 3: go and get get their stuff done. But it's it's
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  Speaker 3: up to Kora to be able to get the most
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  Speaker 3: out of their team. Whatever that whoever that means, he
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  Speaker 3: needs to talk to it. If you can't talk to
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  Speaker 3: one of your superstars, that could really hurt the team,
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  Speaker 3: because that is where the Red Sox will live and
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  Speaker 3: die on is if Raffie Devers has a good season,
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  Speaker 3: other people can't pick up what he adds to this team.
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: Okay, I gotta do role play for a moment, because
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: you got to walk me through this, because you guys
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: are former players who wants to sit in the chair
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: and be Raffie Devers right now while I'm the organization.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: I've never been a superstar, so it has to be AJ.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, AJ coming to my office. I hear that you
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: will only be a third baseman. Fregman's a better third baseman.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: We love you to death. We're signed, you have a
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: long term contract with us. We paid you more than
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: I think anyone in franchise history. You also blasted us
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: last spring, said we weren't being aggressive enough. This was
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: the guy who we were able to land all the projections.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: Say that we will be at our best and give
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: you the best chance to win this year. If he
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: is playing third and you are mixing in with a
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: little bit of third, maybe a little bit of first,
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: if you want mostly d H. I get you're young.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: You had a shoulder injury that was bothering you last year.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: Why don't you just mash Maybe you'll have the year
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: of your life. We're giving you this opportunity. We're not
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: saying you're never going to play the position again. What
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: do you think?
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: Nope, I want to play third base, but you.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Care more about playing the position that you want than
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: making the playoffs.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: Just want to be clear. Yeah, I'm telling you exactly
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: how that conversation will go. Nope, I want to play
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: third base.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, so you you propray me or bench me. You're
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: not tradeable. It's year two of a ten year deal. Okay,
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: so you don't want to your protest, I am.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Can't trade.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: You can't trade you, So okay, I just want to
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: be clear.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: And let me let let's cat that in Boston.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: Not benching you, Okay. I just want to be clear
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: on on and guess what I'm playing?
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: Why? And guess what? I'm playing? Third base? Because guess
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: who said they've already played see they would play second base.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: Alex Pregnant, the guy you signed. He can only be
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: here for one year. I don't want to mess up
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: Raffie Devers mindset because he's gonna be there longer. According
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: to what you said, Scott bron, this was a one
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: year deal for Alex Pregman. So you don't want to
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: mess up Raffy Devers for one year, make him go
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: through all this bold bleep for one what could be
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: one year of Alex Pragman, and then you have Christian
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Campbell coming. So you're gonna take Raffie Devers out of
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: his position he's played his whole life for possibly one year,
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: because then Christian Campbell gets there. Guess where he's playing
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: second base? Guess who's not gonna be there, Alex Pregnant.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Guess who's gonna have to be your third baseman, Raffi Devers.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: You want him pissed off after for no reason. No,
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: you put Bregmant at second base. See how it goes.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep pushing this. So Yoshida gets traded. I
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: eat most of the money. A team needs a bat. Okay,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: Christian Campbell's hitting six hundred in spring training. We can't
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: not bring him up. He's gonna play second base. I
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: need Bragman at third, I need you at DH and
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: I think we can win a World Series title. Wait,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: I'm setting up a scenario that's not completely unrealistic. Opening
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Day AJ playing Rathy right now? Opening Day you show
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: up to the park. I have you written in as
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: DH will you show up and give me four or
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: five at bats?
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: He's gonna play if you put him there, but that
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: doesn't mean he's going to be happy. And you don't
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: want discruntal players on your team. You don't. And I
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: know Alex Korra has been like a Svengali talking to
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: these guys, and that's cool, but you don't want a
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: guy who's your long term solution that you sign to
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: be the face of your franchise for the next ten
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: years to be unhappy with the opening day.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: I just want to be clear then which side you
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: guys are taking, which is fine, but aj should Alex
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Korre have said what he said then, because wouldn't he
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: have just said we'll handle It's all good. He said hi,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: and Bloom promised that he's not here anymore. I didn't
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: promise him third base. So should he have said that.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: That's what he feels. Say whatever he wants. He's a
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: grown man.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: Say what you want willing if he's willing to fight
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: this fight that you are having. And if I were you, Scott,
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: if I was into Alex cor and I was going
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: to the superstar to my left over here, I would
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: have said, how bad do you want to win a
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: World Series? How bad do you want your legacy? Because
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: you're going to get your numbers, whether we put you
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: at DH or we keep you at third, how bad
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: do you want win the World Series? And that's how
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: I would have approached it with Devers, because he's been there.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: That's why he signed back, he got his cash, and
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't have I wouldn't have put anything else out
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: there because he would have had to answer that to
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: my face as the manager, to find out where he's
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: at with being able to move. Can I still keep
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: you as a third baseman if this year you're not
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: our third basement?
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: I know how these guys communicate, especially talk to him,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: and Devor said no, And so now he's starting to
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: make it a little public to try and apply pressure,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: because you will have the fans tilt away from you.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: If you're saying I don't care as much about wins
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: and losses, I care about my position for twenty twenty five.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Also say this yes, and I'm gonna say this too.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: You know what Raphael Devers is saying, I'm at third basement.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: I got a chance to go to the Hall of
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Fame as a third baseman.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Great, I'll see you in twenty twenty six at third base.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Maybe you don't want to lose that year of him, Scott,
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you it's not worth it.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: You don't think what if Christian Campbell is Rookie of
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: the Year, the next big thing? Where do you play him?
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: You gotta figure it out. What if Trevor's story goes
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: out and gets injured? Can Christian Campbell play shortstop? Who knows?
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: What if it has a bad year and he opts
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: in for two more years, then what do you do
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: with Christian Campbell? Do you trade him?
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: No?
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying that I can play what if
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: all day. But I'm telling you, as a player, when
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: the team comes to you, you don't want your superstar
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: pissed off. You just don't want him pissed off. You
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: don't want him to be mad on opening day, first
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: day of spring training. You just want your superstar to
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: be focused on what he needs to be focus on.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: With Raffi Devers is go out there and hit Homer's
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: off Garrett Cole and make his life miserable, right, make
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: him make him walk you make him know.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: It, which he can do as a DH I would
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: just be pissed, honestly. If I'm on the other side,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: this is what the decision is from the front office
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: and the team, I would be pissed that he's not.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Role play. I'm pissed this became a public thing and
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: that the front office went and made it a public
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: thing because I'm like this. We could have had this
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: conversation behind closed doors. Why is the manager having this
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: with the media? It works, see how players think, because
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: then you know what the player does. The player goes
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: to another player and the player goes, You're right, he
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: shouldn't have said that, And then the next player goes
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: to the next player in that locker room goes, man,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: he shouldn't have said that. I love Alex Cora. So
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: I'm sure there's been conversations that have already had. But
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: this is how it works in the locker room. Man, Right,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Am I wrong? Crats if you if you're in New York, right,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: and Aaron Judge, if Aaron Boon would have come out
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: and said something about hey Aaron without with you know, hey,
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: putting him in a spot, guess what Aaron Judge does
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: he goes to the next player and goes, man, can
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: you believe Boone said this about me? Look at the newspaper,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: And then that player is not going to side against
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: Aaron Judge. He's gonna say, yeah, you're right, Boone should
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: have said that, And then the whole clubhouse starts talking
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: about it and talking about and talking about it, and
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: it becomes a thing that it doesn't need to become.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: No, you're right. John Carlos Stanton had some interesting words
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: spoken about him from Cashman last year, saying whatever, he's
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: gonna get hurt, and then he bashed a bunch of
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: postseason homers for the team and said take that. So,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: I do think you can also just play like a
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: stud and then make everyone happen.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: For him to be at his best, he thinks he
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: has to play third base.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Eloya Menez thought he had to be at his best
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: playing the outfield and forgetting.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: Not talking about not talking about players. I understand that
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: we're talking about superstars, and here's here's here's the bottom line.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it even applies to this. Not
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: everybody on the team is treated equally. They're all treated fairly.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: Superstars are way different if you're a manager that tries
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: to treat everybody equally, you're gonna be a five hundred
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: man and the rest of your life, that's how it goes.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: You'll be fired. You can be fired quick. Oh you'll
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: be fired for sure.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I just remember sitting with Tony LaRussa and him saying,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: we need a lay to be a DH. This this
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: outfield experiment's not going well and he's getting hurt, and
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: I'm like, well tell him. He's like, we do, but
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: he's really fighting us on it, and I'm just like, damn,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: that sucks because he doesn't know what's best for him.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: And he would have made more money because he would
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: have had less injuries. But I know it's not the
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: perfect example, just saying it does happen a lot. When
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Boden comes on later this week, he can tell us
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: the story about Alfonso Soriano because they had a battle.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: He played. I think he moved to left field and
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: he had the best season of his life. Quotes are
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: coming out and some things are getting confirmed. AJ Mike
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Trout officially now the right fielder for the Angels. A
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: dash of DH here, a dash of center field there.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: But he's gonna play right field, and this was the
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: right option. I assume he's well aware of this. He
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: wants to stay on the field. They need his bat.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Oh great, they need him in the lineup. They need
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: to keep his legs healthy. That's been his thing, he said,
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: leg problems lately, back legs. Right. How do they keep
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: him healthy? How does he keep him on the field?
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Right field is much easier than centerfield. That's the argument
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: with playing judge in centerfield, as it's too hard on
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: his body. So moving to right or a corner, I mean, preferably.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: I would have probably liked to have seen him go
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: to left, but I get why they put him in right.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Little d h here maybe a center field every once
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: in a while, but this is the right move for
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: the Angels. I would love to see him and left.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure he has the arm for right, but
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: I would much rather see him and left, unless they
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: have to stick so layer out there more than they
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: want to. But I don't think that's the case either,
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: And I kind of like it. Maybe it took Joe
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: Adele's Maybe I'm missing somebody, but is it Joe Adele's
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: chance to kind of be that superstar. Everybody thought he
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: was going to be in a superstar position. That's a
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: big jump to superstar for him.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: But we'll take star. What I'll take star, I'll take yeah,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: I'll take good, I'll take average. I mean, I agree
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: you good, good fella, super athlete. It hasn't all come
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: together for him. He's gotten a little better, right, It
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: was a really rough start for him, And I wonder
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: how old do we think he is at this point? Right?
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Let me check, because.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: He was quickly twenty. He was twenty and nineteen when
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: I played twenty at the end of nineteen.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, now that twenty five years old. So yeah,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: this is the time. You're right. I mean, you got
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Taylor Ward and Mike Trout in the corners, and you
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: got to keep both of those guys healthy, which is
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: an issue, and then Joe Adell in centerfield. Do we
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: like the outfield arrangement?
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah? It keeps for that on the field. Sure, it
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: keeps Trout on the field. Sure. I mean, I don't
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: think Trout's a center fielder anymore for me personally. I
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: know he wants to say he is, but I just
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: don't think he's a center fielder. Anymore with the injuries
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: he's had and what he's gone through, and plus if
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: he plays a corner again, I'd like to see him
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: and left. I know Ward's not going to play right,
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: so they have to put him in right, but I
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: would love to see him left because it's even less
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: on his legs. Especially. This is gonna sound dumb and crowds.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: You can agree with me or not, but this is
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: going to sound dumb. When the Angels are in the
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: third day stugout, they got to run to left field
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: as opposed to running to right field. That's like fifty
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: more steps per inning, and that would be a nice
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: move for him too. Every other sport is going to
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: mock you for saying that, mock me for agreeing with you.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: It adds up.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: It's like a difference in having a bruise and letting
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: it heal, or every single day you just keep touching
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: that bruce it never heals, keep running a little bit extra.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: That's why center field you're still running to catch balls
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: in the outfield.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: No matter where you're playing.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: The difference is center field you're running to back up
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: every ball hit to right and left, and you're running
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: for the balls that you have to catch. So this
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: is why it is more. And you're talking about one
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: hundred and I guess we barely talk about one hundred
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: and sixty two games anymore, but you're talking about one
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: hundred and fifty one hundred and fifty repeated days of
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: that for nine innings.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Injury suck. This is a segment that gets play all season,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: but probably gets the most play in spring training. We're
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: just days in. Here's one that's popped up. That's righty.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Frankie Montas has a high grade latch strain. According to
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: his manager, Carlos Mendoza, he's going to be shut down
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: for six to eight weeks. He's going to get a
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: PRP injection, and then once he does come back, they're
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: going to give him a full spring training process. So
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen exact math, but see in July, Yeah,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: halfway through the season, if that. If that, this is
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: someone who's battled some serious injuries in the past and
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: taken a while to get himself right. They signed him
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: for two years, thirty four million dollars. This was the
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: risk with the way that they're operating with starters, right,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: they chose to go more of the Montoss route the
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: shorter term guys, the experiments. It worked out beautifully last year,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: but it's not always the case. I'm not going to
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: criticize the player, but I did criticize the organization for
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: this signing. So did the other two people that you
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: see on the screen right now. This was not what
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: I felt good about. And it's not off to a
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: good start. He's an injury prone starter for many years.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Yep, that's it. It sucks. It sucks to say injury prone.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: But he didn't pitch for two years, sign one years
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: with the Brewers, right or the Reds got traded to
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: the Brewers. And now he signed and he has a
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: you know, he had a good year. I guess, I
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: don't know, a decent year, and then it showed some
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: flashes at the end. Yeah, and then now he signs
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: a two year deal and the Mets are like, here's
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: thirty plus million dollars. You had to see this coming.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: It's as much as it sucks, and people want to
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: get on Rendon and they want to get on this
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: guy for being hurt, and this guy for being hurt.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Frankie Montoss has kind of flown under the radar, but
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: don't forget when the Yankees made that trade for him,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: he was supposed to be the next in line to
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: be another big star for him and never really pitched right.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: And then he becomes a free agent science and oh a,
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Marxley pitches again, and then too now he signs a
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: two year deal and now he's hurt. I mean, you
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: never want to see anyone get hurt, but gosh, this
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: is just a vicious cycle man that he seems stuck
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: in and we need him to get out of it.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: Will this push them to make that move that they
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: should have made before that trade move because they don't
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: want to go long term. So if you have a
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: starting pitcher Luis Castillo, Dylan Cees, hey, you know what,
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: we could kind of get into the water. To me,
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: that would be a major, major upgrade for this Mets
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: team because that would be somebody that would solidify it. Now,
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you have Manaiah as a number two,
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: not saying that he would slide in behind Castillo, but
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: he would definitely slide in as number two, behind behind
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: Dylan Ceese. Like maybe this is a type of move
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: or this type of something like this happens. Now they
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: might jump into that trade market. Land I don't think
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: they will because they liked what they had.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: But it's interesting.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Could I sang go super talented, but he's also had
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: a lot of injury issues in his career. I get it,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: their arms their injury prone, but there are still some
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: players that you can bank on more than others. Yeah,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: for Montas, the last time he had an ERA plus
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: that was above league average, So above league average pitcher
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: was for a full season twenty twenty one. What do
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: we always say oakland A's shoulders.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Shoulders is what.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: He ended up coming down with when he came to
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: New York, not saying he had it before he got there, whatever,
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: whatever the however it happened.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Shoulders are tough. They are so tough to come back from.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: So tough.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, when we criticized the deal at
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: the time, we caught some flak online from people that
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: were like, he was a different guy with Milwaukee. I'm like,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: he was there for five minutes, relaxed, He's been in
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: the league for a while. You do go to different
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: orgs and try different things, and it can totally work.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: Sean Manay is the ultimate story. We've talked about him.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Many times and what he did last year. But Sewn
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Manai has also been on the field a lot more
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: and still even at his low times, it's just been
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: much more consistent. I mean, Montas still put it together
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: a four and a half ERA, right, I just four
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: last year?
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Can I just say this, he was a different pitcher
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Cincinnati he had a five point oh one ERA. Milwaukee
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: had a four point five to five RA. It's not
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: like he went from crazy good to crazy. I mean,
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: you know, from good to really good. I mean he
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: went from below average to a little bit around average.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean what's considered average. I mean
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: ERA plus. He went from eighty eight to ninety two.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: That's still below league average, right, So maybe they're backing
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: on another year. He's going to continue to go up
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: and up and up. But I mean, this was the
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: risk of signing this contract that we knew. I mean,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: and Frankie Montos has made a lot of money. Now
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: I need him to stay healthy and go out there
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: and pitch, please.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: So when that was going on and I did a
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: little back and forth, you know, I love to do
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: that with fans. I got hit with We'll look at
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: the strikeout rate. Look at the strikeout numbers. I'm like, yo,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: I love strikeout rates and strikeout numbers, and I believe
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: in changes. I'm like, it is such a small sample size,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: without remembering what the game log was, who was he
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: facing all that? Just a really small sample size. And
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: it was a two year contract for thirty four mil
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: to get the insurance in case something like this happened,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: with an opt out in case. He was amazing fine
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: with opt outs, it's usually a good situation. But for
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: this kind of pitcher, I was surprised that he got
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: really nice money and an opt out on a two
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: year contract. It just is what it is. So now
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: it's Senga, it's David Peterson, who was awesome for them
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: last year, really broke out. Finally Clay Holmes, who's going
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: to learn how to be a starter this coming season.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: You usually worry about a pitcher fading down the stretch,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: even if it does work out in the first half.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: Paul Black coming back from serious injury, Griffin Canning who
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: has not been good but has been pretty healthy usually,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: and there's others right that are going to be competing
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: for spots. But the rotation compared to the Phillies is
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: a massive difference, and even right now the rotation compared
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: to the Braids. Again, I like the Mets. They can
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: finish first, second, or third in the division. But when
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: aer Krats received so much crap for saying their third
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: place team, he was not off.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: I'm on probation with Mets, so I have only nine
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: words that I can say before Mets fans get on again.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: But depth is key in a tough division. Mets need
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: more depth ands can be tested right out the gate.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Injury we probably won't get to. Let's do a fun one.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: It's not an injury. He's coming back from injury. Did
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: you guys see Brandon Nimmo, who's a great interview. When
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: you get him, he's awesome. So he's coming back from
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: planter fascy itis. He was battling that in the playoffs.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: He did all kinds of things in the offseason to get
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: himself back. I know it's tough. They asked him how
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: he's doing. He goes, I'm up to ninety one percent,
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: So how you feeling, I'm ninety one percent? And of
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: course you met ninety one percent in his running progression,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: which is measured against his previous top speed. This tweet
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: coming from Anthony Dacoma, who covers the team. He said
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: he's gonna take things slow this spring. He continues to
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: believe that he could make up that missing nine percent
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: before opening day. So that was a fun, little fun
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: little chat. Hey, how you feeling. I'm ninety one percent
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: technically by the numbers. I love.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: I love when guys, especially high school kids right now
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: up here, because in Florida they're already playing up here.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, I'm throwing throwing a bullpen. Eighty percent.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: What did you hit?
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Eighty seven miles an hour? It's it's my pr But
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: I was just eighty percent. So I'm like, eighty percent, okay,
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: so you tell me you got let's see, you got
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: another sixteen miles an hour in there, Like that's what
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: eighty percent is? Like ninety one percent of your sprint speed.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: I'm so glad I didn't have sprint speed stuff till
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: the end of my career. That would have been just
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: a more for me.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Hey, j did you ever do the percent game when
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: they asked you how you were?
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I always said I was one hundred percent. There
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: was no there was no it was ready to go.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Are you kidding? What am I going to say? No,
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: how we feel, let's go. I'm ready to go. Because
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: if I can play, that means I'm one hundred percent.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: There's no other There was either one hundred percent or zero.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: If I couldn't play, it was because I literally had
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: something hanging off. Something I was missing a piece if
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: there was, if I wasn't playing.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: There's broken, isn't hanging off. Broken is just broken, it's
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: not hanging off.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: You can play what I what I did with my wrist,
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: I broke in there was a piece hanging off and
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: they were debating whether to surgically repair it or not.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: Technically there was a piece hanging off, but it was
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: still connected to your body, so you can still play.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: True. True.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: It's the new age way of how to answer your
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: percent and we're playful on this. I Nemo's great, so
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: not criticizing him. I liked that he used data to
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: explain the percentage of where he's at.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: I would have done that with me. Luckily, I never
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: pulled a hamstring or anything, so it's hard to pull stuff.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: But if they would have done it on me, how
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: would they have known? If I was running the same
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: speed or not, because slow is still slow.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Also, did you guys see John Carlos stands hurt, He's
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: got tennis elbow in both elbows.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, how do you get that? Does he played
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: tennis and amphibious? Man?
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: I actually have respect, I know, I know, I got it,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: I got the joke, I got it. I just have
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: respect for the fact that he's still battling through all this.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Like for a moment you're like, damn, come on, dude,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: say on the field, and now you're just like, I mean,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: this guy's body is breaking down and he was a
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: postseason monster. He's not going to swing a back for
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: three to four weeks, unsure if he can be ready
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: for opening day. Very high level of pain in both elbows.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: He said, I'll have to play through that pain when
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: he returns from those elbow injuries. And there's a quote
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: here and he's like, look, tennis elbow or whatever they
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: call it, tears in your tendon. So when you ask
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: when did it feel good, when did it feel bad?
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: There's always a pain level there. You've got to deal
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: with it. It's just the wisest point to give him
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: time right now. Kind of need him though, get healthy.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: It was kind of need him. I'm not pitching a judge.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: In April, Cashman called it last year. Is that we're
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: supposed to say, Scott, Is that what you want us
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: to say? I mean, I know it sucks. I wannestly
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: just kind of ashing Homer's.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: I'm just giving the news. I think this one actually
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: really hurts for them this year more than last year
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: because they had Soto. Are you pitching around Judge in
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: the beginning of the season, Guys, who you scared of?
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Who's sitting behind the whole season, the whole season judging
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: and getting nothing to hit? This year, I'm facing last year.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: I'm pitching around Judge like you gotta be able to
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: deal with you, gotta be able to do behind him,
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: like you gotta deal.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: With you, got to deal with where you're at in
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: the lineup.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: Pitching around Judge means I'm missing in the areas that
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: he struggles in.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: Like I'm not letting him hit anything middle in to down,
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: like I am staying if I welcome or welcome. I'm
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: doing that all year with standing in the lineup, without
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: standing in the lineup.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: It's just a matter of how you go about the line.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: You know, how you attack the batters.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: The difference is, guys, Sodo's not on base every time.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: Okay, he still needs to drive them in.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: No, no, I'm saying you are going to be in situations
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: where judge is up and there's no one on more
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: frequently this year most likely.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: Right, for sure, nobody's going to be getting on base
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: as much as Soda was. I mean, you can't replace
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: that offense. But I'm still not pitching the judge. If
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: Sodo's on first, if Sodo's on second, Sodo's on third, right,
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: I'm still not he can't beat me.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: He can't beat me.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Extensions handed out one for Marcotte through the twenty twenty
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: nine season, one for JJ Piccolo Koste by the way
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: the Sacramento as manager. Oh, I got it right.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: And then no, no, no, no no, they're just the
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: apt at H. They don't say we.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Do arrest me, come get me, come get me, Yeah,
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: take me, take me all right, And then the Kansas
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: City Royals give out an extension to JJ Coolo, goodfella
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: through the twenty thirty season. He's running the front office
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: for the Kansas City Royals. Let's hit both one at
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: the time.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: I'll got crafts go for help. We not have on
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: for By the way, how we not great?
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Question? Actually, hey, j ask him you know well.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: I have liked you. It must not have liked you.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: It must be some kind of beef. I'm gonna have
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: to you know what I'll do. I'll have Gordon Beckham
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: text him and ask him to come on. That's the
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: only way we're gonna get him. This is I'll shoot them.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: I'll shoot him a text. We're going to Arizona soon,
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: so don't worry. I'll see him and I'll and I'll
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: I'll humble him. This is super random.
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: But we talked about how the Rockies like they just
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: say in house all the time. The Royals have done
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: that for a long time, and they do a similar
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: like where they're just like, oh, we just want good guys,
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: and yet they're not afraid to ask the tough questions
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: and move guys around and make decisions that help the
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: team win.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: But why can't the Rockies do that? The Royals do it.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: JJ Paccolo has been there for a minute. A lot
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: of those assistant gym's have been there for a minute.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: Dayton Moore is still kind of involved, and he's not
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: even employed by the team.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: It's a good call out, and Marcote is an absolute
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: soldier for handling Sacramento the way he's doing it so far.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: So AJ, that's an easy one for you to comment on.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: He's one of the better managers in baseball, I think,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: and maybe a surprise team this year.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: People are saying it, people are saying they got it.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: They think they might have a shot. I mean, they
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: made some moves, they made some nice moves.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: They spend some money, a couple of quick signings guys
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: John Means and the Guardians one year contract, one million
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: club option worth up to seven point five million, no
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: buy out recovering from TJ. Target is August on the
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: return for him and the National signed Paul Deyong to
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: a one year, one million dollar contract. Twenty four homers
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: last year, and he's a really good defender, can play
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: third base, you can play a little shortstop and I
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: guess some DH time whatever, But thoughts on these two
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: on our way out. We got one minute each from Yeah, AJ,
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: you saw the young a little bit on the White
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Sox pretty.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Well got you got another million. He got another year
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: possibly under your belt. Can Joel s purribably only got
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: one million after hitting homers, but you know he was
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: kind of homer or nothing and defense. He didn't really
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: have a position. I loved when he was on here.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: Just he's just he just seems like a competitor, a
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: dude that's been through it. And I think he'll add
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: to that Guardian's organization, not just the team because he
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: won't be there till August, but he's going to add
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: to this organization, especially since they can have him again
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: next year for seven million easy signing.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: Those are the kind of deals that could work out beautifully,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: right if he does recover, comes back, because yes, this
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: is someone who's been injury from but when he's been
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: on the field, he's often been really productive. Yeah, Kratz,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: you get a seven million dollar starter for twenty twenty six.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: That's gold to Cleveland because they operate at a really,
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: really low budget.