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171. Captain Morgan - Pirate, Knight & Politician - Part II · Who Did What Now With Katie Charlwood

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  Speaker 1: Hello, delicious friends, and welcome to Who Did What Now?
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  Speaker 1: The history podcast That's Not Your History Class with me
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  Speaker 1: your host Katie Charlewood, History Harlotte and reader of books.
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  Speaker 1: And this is part two of two, the second half,
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  Speaker 1: if you will, of the tale of Captain Morgan, the
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  Speaker 1: Man not the Rum. Right. Speaking of the rum, I
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  Speaker 1: was told this week that it's technically not rum. It's
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  Speaker 1: actually more like a bourbon because it's made with like
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  Speaker 1: mash or whatever. I have to look that up because
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  Speaker 1: I didn't have time, So I am going to look
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  Speaker 1: up this whole thing because I was like, is it
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  Speaker 1: not rum? But like I used to do a joke
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  Speaker 1: actually about about Captain Morgan, Captain Jack Sparrow being like
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  Speaker 1: drinking it. I was like drinking it and then catching.
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  Speaker 1: So he's like catches the bottle, brings it down, takes
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  Speaker 1: one look at it with an outstretched arm and goes
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  Speaker 1: Captain Morgan, I don't like the competition, and then smashes
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  Speaker 1: it on the ground. But yes, to everyone, to everyone
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  Speaker 1: who was kind enough to contact me and let me
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  Speaker 1: know that there is a town called Jamaica in New
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  Speaker 1: York and that's where the sorting office is, and that
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  Speaker 1: my post wasn't going to the country of Jamaica. Ah,
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  Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. A geography clearly not my strong point.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody's nobody's coming to me for geographic geographic questions right,
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  Speaker 1: Strangely good orienteering though I can follow a map like
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  Speaker 1: it's just instructions, though in it like you're just following
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  Speaker 1: instructions on a map. Really, this is a river, this
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  Speaker 1: is a road. If you need you know, you just
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  Speaker 1: recognize places and follow it like an IKEA instruction manual.
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  Speaker 1: Like if you ever need anyone to help you build
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  Speaker 1: a kia Fama jung and nogal, It's me. I'm your gal.
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  Speaker 1: If you're thinking Jay's this episode came out away a
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  Speaker 1: bit early, Yes it did. There was nothing I hate
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  Speaker 1: more one of there's many things I hate more like bigotry.
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  Speaker 1: But I generally quite dislike having to wait for a
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  Speaker 1: part two of anything because I am genuinely impatient. So
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  Speaker 1: I always wanted to get the part two out sooner.
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  Speaker 1: I just physically did not have the time to get
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  Speaker 1: this done, like I am. I am literally at my
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  Speaker 1: kitchen table after packing bags because I'm heading to Dublin
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  Speaker 1: first thing in the morning, because I'm taking the kids
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  Speaker 1: and my mum to go see the lights at Dublin's
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  Speaker 1: and to go to my son. I'm taking him to
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  Speaker 1: ACG five concert. So like, it's all go. I was
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  Speaker 1: working today, we did this, We're going to be going
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  Speaker 1: in the morning. It's it's all go. So like, I
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  Speaker 1: don't even know if I'm going to be back home
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  Speaker 1: in time to record the next episode, so it's probably
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  Speaker 1: going to be somewhere between twelve and twenty four hours
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  Speaker 1: later than it should be. But I have it written.
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  Speaker 1: I just have to be able to record it. But
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  Speaker 1: I do need to get to sleep tonight, so this
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  Speaker 1: needs to be done now. But I know what you're thinking.
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  Speaker 1: You're thinking, Kerry, quite your debble, dabble in fact me,
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  Speaker 1: In fact you I will because all the sources were
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  Speaker 1: listed in the previous episode. So all that's left to
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  Speaker 1: say is are also think comfortably goat. Then let's begin
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  Speaker 1: the tale of Captain Henry Morgan again the Pirate, not
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  Speaker 1: the Rum. So time to cliff notes catch up. Henry
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  Speaker 1: Morgan actually Harry Morgan war as Welsh. He moved to Bristol,
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  Speaker 1: ended up in the West Indies. Started off as a
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  Speaker 1: soldier for Britain in the Anglo Spanish War, one of
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  Speaker 1: many many and he may or may not have been
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  Speaker 1: an indentured servant for a time. So he joins a
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  Speaker 1: pirate crew, becomes a captain, gaining a no fucking around reputation,
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  Speaker 1: becomes a privateer Mary's his cousin, becomes an admiral and
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  Speaker 1: commits blatant acts of illegal piracy, after which he's in Jamaica,
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  Speaker 1: making his buddy, the Deputy Governor, Thomas Mordyford, really fucking nervous.
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  Speaker 1: Mardyford say he had given Henry Morgan a letter of
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  Speaker 1: mark that granted him permission to attack Spanish ships, but
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  Speaker 1: not any Spanish territories, So not on land. Right. You
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  Speaker 1: can plunder and pillage as long as you're on the water,
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  Speaker 1: but you cannot do it on land. Just kind of
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  Speaker 1: like in the Pirates of the Caribbean movies, Davy Jones
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  Speaker 1: could not set food on land, okay, he could not
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  Speaker 1: do that, just like Captain Morgan could not attack on land. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So it used to be, like I said in the
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  Speaker 1: previous episode, it used to be that you could attack settlements, right,
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  Speaker 1: and that would be fine. But then they basically attacked
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  Speaker 1: a settlement a little too hard, and King Charles the
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  Speaker 1: Second went, no, don't do that, No, because like the
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  Speaker 1: outrage even amongst like the court and everything, because of
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  Speaker 1: just how violent and debauched the whole thing was. So
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  Speaker 1: they were like, oh, no, we can't be doing that though.
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  Speaker 1: So basically he was like the litter remark covers these
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  Speaker 1: specific things, and so Captain Morgan performed illegal act of piracy. No,
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  Speaker 1: here's the thing, the amount of men, and it is men.
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  Speaker 1: It is men specifically who have been in my comment
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  Speaker 1: section this week on on Facebook Instagram TikTok who keep
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  Speaker 1: arguing on behalf of Captain Henry Morgan as if Captain
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  Speaker 1: Henry Morgan did not do the very things that I
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  Speaker 1: said he was doing, and one they're wrong in two
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  Speaker 1: in two the level of confidence one has to have
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  Speaker 1: to argue with a historian over a topic that they
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  Speaker 1: have quite aggressively researched, fact checked, because listen, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: a pirate historian, Okay, there are pirate historians, just like
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  Speaker 1: there are Viking historians. They're not called Viking historians. If
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  Speaker 1: they're called something else, I'm like they are like medieval
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  Speaker 1: Norse or whatever it is, right, Like there are historians
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  Speaker 1: we all focus on like our own special topics. Like
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  Speaker 1: you have a doctor Kate Lister who is a sex historian,
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  Speaker 1: as is I think doctor Carlyn West might be as well.
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  Speaker 1: In obviously doctor is Meilwise James, she's also a sex historian.
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  Speaker 1: These people exist in these fields. I don't know why
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  Speaker 1: I chose sex historians specifically, but I know them well
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  Speaker 1: and so that seems to be the better option. So
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  Speaker 1: private historians, I am not one of those. I am
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  Speaker 1: a historian who covers misinformation and propaganda in history from
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  Speaker 1: typically the early modern period upwards, So bullshit in history
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  Speaker 1: that has been presented as not bullshit really really, that's
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  Speaker 1: my gig. So when I see something and I see, say,
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  Speaker 1: for example, how Henry Morgan was portrayed as opposed to
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  Speaker 1: what he did, that I can see that and I
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  Speaker 1: work from there. So I've had like actual private historians
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  Speaker 1: go on and go, oh no, she's right, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: like she is, though, good job, because I fact check stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I do my research, lads, I don't mean to be
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  Speaker 1: a dick about it, and like, and if I get
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  Speaker 1: something wrong, grant I can deal with that. I'll correct
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  Speaker 1: it at some point but like, yeah, yeah, accountability. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but make sure I'm wrong before you try and correct me,
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  Speaker 1: because like, what did they audacity? Like, you're not an
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  Speaker 1: expell on piracy just because she used to bun DVDs man.
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  Speaker 1: Understand I really loved lime Wire Napster back in the day,
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  Speaker 1: but you really need to stop. But yeah, I get
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  Speaker 1: back to this. Sorry for the sidebar, but it was
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  Speaker 1: just like really, like why are you arguing this, Like
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  Speaker 1: like somebody got mad because I use the term war
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  Speaker 1: criminal and they were just like war criminals didn't exist yet,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, I assure you they did. Just because
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  Speaker 1: the terminology didn't exist doesn't mean that the act didn't,
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  Speaker 1: right that like, get over it. But anyway, back to
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  Speaker 1: Captain Morgan, the attack on Portobello was an act of
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  Speaker 1: piracy and it was causing a wee bit of a
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  Speaker 1: problem for Maudyford because Morgan was his number one private
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  Speaker 1: heer like, he was very clear about this. This was
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  Speaker 1: his number one guy and he's out there doing illegal
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  Speaker 1: shit and as such he's guilty by association. So Thomas Mutherford,
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  Speaker 1: he was a Royalist, right, he had fought on the
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  Speaker 1: side of King Charles the First during the English Civil War.
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  Speaker 1: Now this meant that he fought against Cromwell and his parliamentarians.
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  Speaker 1: But after his military service ended, he like high tailed
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  Speaker 1: it to Barbados, where he owned a plantation. Right, and
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  Speaker 1: well he's in Barbados, he becomes a man of influence
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  Speaker 1: and standing. Now remember none of these, none of these
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  Speaker 1: are technically good people, because you can't own a person
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  Speaker 1: and be like, I'm a good guy. No. So he
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  Speaker 1: was made a kernel of the regiment in Barbados and
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  Speaker 1: so being a Royalist, when parliamentary forces demanded the surrender
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  Speaker 1: of Barbados, he fought for it. Right, he was like
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  Speaker 1: no much, which was you know, okay for a while.
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  Speaker 1: But then when Charles the First was beheaded and the
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  Speaker 1: Royalists lost the Battle of Worcester, his loyalties started to
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  Speaker 1: shift a wee bit, probably because he liked having his
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  Speaker 1: head attached to his body. But he ends up entering
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  Speaker 1: secret negotiations. It's a wee bit sleeky in it, right.
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  Speaker 1: He enders the secret negotiations with the Roundheads and joined
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  Speaker 1: them by taking his regiment with him. Now he gets
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  Speaker 1: made governor of Barbados, but in a shocking twist, everybody
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  Speaker 1: hates him. You know, probably because he's a fucking tongue coat.
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  Speaker 1: So when eventually the monarchy is restored in the restoration,
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  Speaker 1: because yeah, of course it's the monarchy's restored in the restoration.
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  Speaker 1: That was really clever, right in there wasn't that? That
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  Speaker 1: was really good on my part. When Charles the Second
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  Speaker 1: takes the throne, Barbados gets a new governor and Mardiford's
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  Speaker 1: out on his arse. He managed to not piss everybody
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  Speaker 1: off because he does get the job of deputy governor
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  Speaker 1: of Jamaica, right, So he's got that. So skip forward
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  Speaker 1: to now and he is stressing because Captain Morgan has
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  Speaker 1: plundled the shit out of a major city on the
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  Speaker 1: Spanish main Like it's not like it was a wee
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  Speaker 1: town and this could be swept under the rug like
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  Speaker 1: not as if he can cover this up and hide it. No, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: this is big news and it is absolutely going to
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  Speaker 1: reach the ears of the kitten. So the governor wants
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  Speaker 1: to get ahead of the game. What's that misinformation, you say,
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  Speaker 1: creating the narrative? You say, what? Who would know anything
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  Speaker 1: about that? You say? Anyhow, Like he writes to England
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  Speaker 1: to exonerate himself, right, he's saying that he didn't sanction
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  Speaker 1: or approve the assault on Portabello, and that his letter
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  Speaker 1: of mark only covered attacks at sea only. Like he
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  Speaker 1: is totally trying to save his arse at this point.
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  Speaker 1: So he's doing that and he's trying to like, I
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  Speaker 1: had no knowledge, this was without my consent, nothing to
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  Speaker 1: do with me, by the way that being said. That
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  Speaker 1: being said, he's like the Caribbean is like super treacherous
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  Speaker 1: and dangerous, like he tries to paint it as like
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  Speaker 1: this big, scary, like very like lawless place, like it's
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  Speaker 1: very dangerous and and everybody's watching their back at all times,
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  Speaker 1: and that the Spanish were planning to attack Jamaica, and
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  Speaker 1: because they were planning to attack Jamaica, he was just
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  Speaker 1: trying to get ahead of it because of those dastardly Spaniards.
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  Speaker 1: So Motiford is telling England that Captain Morgan wasn't doing
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  Speaker 1: any of that under his orders, but he was preemptively
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  Speaker 1: striking the end me to protect British territory, so effectively, everectively,
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  Speaker 1: the blame is being shifted to the Spanish, like and
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  Speaker 1: it helps you know that they have been at war
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  Speaker 1: quite a few times because you've got like one Anglo
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  Speaker 1: Spanish war and then you have another Anglo Spanish war.
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  Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of Anglo Spanish wars happening. That
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  Speaker 1: being said, when is the Anglo not at war?
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: At this point where at war with Christmas? Sorry I
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  Speaker 1: can't help myself. I just love the fact as well
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  Speaker 1: that he's trying to turn around and go I had
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  Speaker 1: no knowledge of this, but he was doing the right
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  Speaker 1: thing though, because those Spanish over there, WHOA What's interesting though,
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  Speaker 1: out of all that antagonizing and attacking that's happening, like
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  Speaker 1: during this very little of the attacking, like the going
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  Speaker 1: on the offense is by the Spanish, like he has
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  Speaker 1: to justify any colonial power by any stretch of the imagination,
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  Speaker 1: but like they're just kind of there a lot of
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  Speaker 1: the time, and they're not. It's certainly not to the
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  Speaker 1: extent that the English are doing. Like it's wild. So
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  Speaker 1: now Morgan and Mordiford they have a plan. Spain is
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  Speaker 1: the enemy and they're going to attack. So they're basically
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  Speaker 1: trying to like create this narrative that the Spanish are
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  Speaker 1: getting ready to attack English territory, as if we're not
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  Speaker 1: just you know, trying to continue invading the continent that
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  Speaker 1: they have colonized. Right weird, But yeah, Morgan, he leaves
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  Speaker 1: Port Royal and he sails with eight hundred men across
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  Speaker 1: ten ships. Do I ladash, Yes to those of you
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  Speaker 1: who speak French, that is Cow Island. Yep, yep, that
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  Speaker 1: was that. I'm going to assume an island that they
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  Speaker 1: put kills on. What's funny is like the Spaniards, like
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  Speaker 1: I mentioned in the previous episode, they brought like livestock
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  Speaker 1: with them, and so at this point they had created
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  Speaker 1: like feral hogs and feral cows just like out in
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  Speaker 1: the wild, like they undomesticated. A cow is a cow domesticated.
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  Speaker 1: But like, yeah, there was just like oxen and wild
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  Speaker 1: like things happening, specifically because the Spanish brought them over.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, so cow Island, ya ravash is a rendezvous
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  Speaker 1: point for him and his men and Muddyford he was
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  Speaker 1: now in on this. He's like, okay, we need to
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  Speaker 1: sort of build ourselves up a bit, and so he
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  Speaker 1: sends a Royal Navy frigate. So a frigate, if you
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  Speaker 1: don't know, was a three masted warship, like especially during
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  Speaker 1: the seventeenth century. So it's quite fast, you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: the quicker than a galleon, for example. And it was
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  Speaker 1: used for like scouting, raiding, escorting, like it was just yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was. It was a warship. Okay. Anyway, this Royal
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  Speaker 1: Navy frigate, the Oxford, it was sent by Modiford to
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  Speaker 1: be the flagship of Morgan's fleet and so and by
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  Speaker 1: adding this impressive ship to the fleet, Captain Morgan would
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  Speaker 1: be able to take the Spanish settlement of Katahena the
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  Speaker 1: Indias quite easily. This ship was massive, it had like
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  Speaker 1: thirty six guns, like, it was a very intimidating vessel like.
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  Speaker 1: And the whole point of it was that, like, it's
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  Speaker 1: a warship. Now it's a name a warship. There was
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  Speaker 1: no reason to be giving this to a privateer. But
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  Speaker 1: Mordrynford's like, let us do this famous last words, No,
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  Speaker 1: it's not famous last words. That being said, it's okay,
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  Speaker 1: let's get into this. So Cartagena, the India's was the
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  Speaker 1: richest city on the Spanish main right. It is a
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  Speaker 1: major port on the northern coast of what is now Columbia.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's now just called Cartagena. So it was
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  Speaker 1: the main port for the export of Bolivian silver to Spain,
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  Speaker 1: and it was a massive trade port for the Spanish
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  Speaker 1: Empire and kilsiprise. It was a key part in the
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  Speaker 1: import of enslaved Africans under the Escental de Negroes. And
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  Speaker 1: what's that when it's at home, Well, let me tell
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  Speaker 1: you the Cental de Negroes or the Agreement of Blacks.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like saying that out loud. It was a
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  Speaker 1: contract system used by the Spanish crown between the sixteenth
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  Speaker 1: and eighteenth centuries. This granted monopoly rights to like merchants
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  Speaker 1: or company's a centistas, to supply a set number of
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  Speaker 1: enslaved Africans to the Spanish Americas, like in exchange for
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  Speaker 1: payments to the crown and access to this trade. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this place is super rich because it's a major hub
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  Speaker 1: of the Spanish American slave trade, right, that's what this is.
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  Speaker 1: So load of money, loads of stuff going on. So
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  Speaker 1: Captain Morgan he gets to Iravashkel Island and he says
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  Speaker 1: a French ship there and he offers to have that
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  Speaker 1: ship join their fleet in the attack, but they politely
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  Speaker 1: declined At quiesce to the request. Now this friendship French ship,
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  Speaker 1: not friendship French ship. They had taken provisions from an
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  Speaker 1: English ship and they had not paid for them. Instead
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  Speaker 1: had given them bills of exchange which they were to
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  Speaker 1: be paid in Tortuga and Jamaica. So it's basically like
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  Speaker 1: an IOU situation, which is very trusting. So Morgan he
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  Speaker 1: acts like totally cool that He's like bills of exchange,
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  Speaker 1: that's totally fine. But remember he is a sneaky sausage.
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  Speaker 1: He invites the French commander and his men to join
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  Speaker 1: him and to dine on his massive ship, and when
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  Speaker 1: they step on board, they are taken prisoner and they
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  Speaker 1: are confused, right, very confused. He tells them that they're
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  Speaker 1: being arrested for piracy against a British vesseval, right, and
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  Speaker 1: he just takes the ship, right. So he's feeling very
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  Speaker 1: smug at this point, but well, right, he's taken those ship.
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  Speaker 1: He's gone, ah, this is piracy because you didn't pay
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  Speaker 1: for them, and they're like, but we're going to pay
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  Speaker 1: for them, and he's like, are you though? Are you though?
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  Speaker 1: So he's just blaming them for following the rule of
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  Speaker 1: the thing. They were doing right. He's lop hold it
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  Speaker 1: all right, but Karma is a bit like me. And
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  Speaker 1: on the second of January sixteen sixty nine, he calls
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  Speaker 1: a council of war with all of his captains aboard
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  Speaker 1: the Oxfield because they're obviously getting me on the best ship, obviously.
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  Speaker 1: And then there's a spark in the powder magazine.
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  Speaker 2: So.
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  Speaker 1: Big ship loads of guns, thirty six sold, lots of gunpowder,
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  Speaker 1: lots of stuff on that ship. And then barra bing
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  Speaker 1: bara boom. Oh, that's actually funny because like what I
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  Speaker 1: wrote here on the in my notes was boom shuk
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  Speaker 1: a luck of lack of boom. I'm too white to
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  Speaker 1: say that. Anyway, the Oxford exploded because again all of
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  Speaker 1: the gunpowder the ship was destroyed, and three hundred of
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  Speaker 1: Morgan's men were dead. So Morgan and the captains on
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  Speaker 1: one side of the table, they were blasted right out
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  Speaker 1: of the ship and into the water, and they survived.
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  Speaker 1: The four on the other side of the table did not.
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  Speaker 1: The Oxford was tied to two other ships at the time,
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  Speaker 1: so when it sank, it brought two more down with
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  Speaker 1: it right as it was sinking, like it goes down now,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like because this was happening in a Council
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  Speaker 1: of War meeting, I feel like loose lips sink ships.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: That being said, there is a theory, right, there's a
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: way theory that it's not just this that led to
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: this happening, that it wasn't just like an accidental spark.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: There's a theory that with the capture of these you know,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: French whatever sailors and this French ship that they've acquired,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: that they were like celebrating and having a wee party
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: and you know, going a bit too far and then wush,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: somebody strike something and again boom shaka laca boom. Yeah. No,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: I'm definitely to wright for that. So this ship goes
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: down to other ships go down with it, and Captain
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: morgan in struck his crew to search for bodies, you know,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: but like not to give him a proper burial or anything, right,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: He's not that into it. The reason he's doing that
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: is so that they can search the bodies of the
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: dead for valuables. So they do that. He collects the outgular,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: they search them for valuables, and then they dump them
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: back into the ocean to be devoured by the monsters
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: of the sea, the monsters of the sea. That was
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: my attempt at Welsh, a Welsh accent. It's not great.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: So he's got all the valuables from his dead men.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: He's lost three ships, including his super big, awesome thirty
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: six gunship. The frigate is gone, and now he has
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: to figure out what to do next. So Morgan, he's
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: lost a ton of men and his best ship, so
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: he's not feeling at this point super confident. So instead
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: of attacking the very rich, very important city of Cartagena,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: he decides to aim for a smaller target. So they
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: go look for one and this is like, this is
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: just a calamity of errors, Like more ships are separated
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: from his flotilla due to like a storm, and then
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: he is down to eight ships and five hundred men,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: which is less than what he started with, right like
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: this eight hundred that he'd got in the island, Like
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: he had other crews join him, so we had like
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: twelve hundred at one point, and it's just like a load.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: But this French pirate that there, he suggests that they
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: attack Maracaibo and Gibraltar. They're both on Lake Maracaibo in
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: modern day Venezuela. I have also heard it being referred
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: to as the Sea of Maracaibo. Now I listen again,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: geography not my strong point. Is it a lake? Is
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: it a sea? I mean it has an opening from
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: the ocean. Okay. So Maracaibo and Gibraltar they had been
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: attacked two years previously, and so this guy, he knew
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: the area. So when the fleet get to the Sea
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: of Maracaibo and it's basically a lagoon, okay, and the
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: big ships they cannot make it through. It's such a
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: small inferrance like to this lake. They just they're not
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: going to fit. And so they get into small boats
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: and can right, canoes will keep showing up. They're not kayaks,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: they're canoes. That's the shape of the boat, said bar.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: I once got into an argument with my uncle's ex
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: wife when I was I want to say, somewhere between
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: nine and eleven. It was somewhere between nine and eleven
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: because of when I was in school, because I know
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: I was still in National school at that point, which
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: is like primary school or like elementary school. So that's
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: where I was there. So I was reading some non
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: fiction story. I think it was about Inuit culture or something,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: and it was talking about how kayaks are made, because
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: it was talking about like family structures and sort of
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: living accommodations and how travel and hunting and all this
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: kind of stuff worked. And they were talking about kayaks
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: and how they were made with like a frame and
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: then an animal's was stretched over, and it was talking
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: about the many uses of blubber because that kept coming
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: up about how there was a lack of waste in
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: this type of society. And yeah, I was reading this
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: at the time, and this grown ass woman kept arguing
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: with me that kayaks and canoes were the same thing,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, they're not, because I'd been in
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: a kayak and I'd been in a canoe, like I'd
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: been in both of them actually as part of a
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: school trip. So I was like, these are two different things.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: They're made from different materials, they're different shapes and from
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: different regions, or they're like from totally different cultures. Like
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: they're not even remotely the same. And again though, they
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: grown adult women arguing with a child, and because I
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: wouldn't back down and I wouldn't lie and say that
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: I was wrong, then not only did she get angry
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: with me, but my uncle got angry with me, and
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: every adult in the house got angue with me, including
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: my own father. It was only when my mom came
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: home and she had to deal with this, and she
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: had to figure out why I was crying in my
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: room and why I was being punished right by a
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: bunch of grown people who should fucking know better. And
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: she was like, I'm sorry, what did you do? And
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: she's like, oh, so you you punished her for being
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: right And they're like, oh, she was talking back, And
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: it's like, was she talking back at the beginning or
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: did she talk back after you tried to call her
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: a liar or to say that she didn't know what
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: she was talking about? Like is that what happened? And
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, that's what happened. And then she gave
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: my dad an absolute bollickin for being a pricking standing
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: up for his daughter. Ah, good mom, But yeah, so
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: that was such a thing. But like I was like,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: they're from different places, they're not the same thing. So anyway,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: canoes are made of wood and they're in these canoes
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: because the water was so shallow, so like since the
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: earlier attack like on Maracaibo and on Gibraltar, like the
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Spanish had built the San Carlos de la Barra Fortes,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: which is, you know, a fortress, so that was where
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: they headed. So like they had seen the pirates approaching,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: and so the fortress left only nine men to load
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: and fire. These nine soldiers, right, they fired at the marauders.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: But when Captain Morgan and his men stormed the fortress,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: it was completely abandoned, right, so they get fired out
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: on the way in. But when they actually reach it,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: everybody scarpled like they're gone, right, probably because they've dealt
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: with before and this time they've just gone. No, and
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: off they go. So that's happened, and they're like they've gone.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: So then they decide, listen, we're gonna make our way
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: into the town. And so when they reach Maracaibo, it
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: is deserted. Basically, the townsfolk when they saw the pirates approaching,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: they just got the heck at a dodge. So they'd
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: been warned by obviously the guys in the fortress, and
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: they'd all just legged it, taking all their valuables with them.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: So the pirates they make themselves comfortable, and then they
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: sent out a group of about one hundred men into
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: the forest to find the town's valuables, and as they're searching,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: they find thirty people. They bring them back into the
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: town and immediately star torturing them. This torture lasted for
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: three whole weeks. Three weeks of the rack, of beatings,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: of burnings. Right, so much torture, and by the end
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: of the three weeks information had been spilled and a
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: hundred families had been captured. Right, So he manages to
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: get one hundred families and then steals their shit. You
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: know what, He's like, my ship sunk, this has happened.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: I need a win. Like he just needs that. What
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: is the word for that? He just needs to keep winning.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: He can't stop himself. I mean, he could have had
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: this big attack and then his ship sink and then
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: he's like, I need to attack something, like I need
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: to go destroy stuff. And he's allowing torture like he's
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: the captain, he's probably an admiral for this group actually,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: and they're just like WHATY do And he's like, let's
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: just torture them if they're not going to give our stuff.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Because he is so determined to get his booty, so determined,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: and this is when after getting as much as he
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: can from Maracaibo, he sets his sights on Gibraltar. Just
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: like Maracaibo. When the pirates reached Gibraltar, it's also deserted.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Every single person save for one man who was well.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: He appears to have had an intellectual disability. According to
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: the records. His clothes were ragged and he was clearly
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: not a man of means, and they still tortured him
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: for information. They put him on the rack and demanded
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: to know where the treasure was. And after being tortured,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: he confessed to having treasure. And he brought them to
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: a shack that was it looked basically abandoned, and in
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: it he had three pieces of eight. Now, clearly they're
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: like this isn't enough, and they're angry at this point
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: because he's led them to what he thinks his treasure,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: like these three pieces of eight. He's like, treasure, here's treasure.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: And he gets tortured again. And when he's being tortured,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: he says that he's the brother of the governor of Maracaibo.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: What just makes them angrier, and so they torture him more.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: They put him on the rack back, they break his
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: shoulders and they burn him alive. By putting flaming palm
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: tree leaves on his body. This time, these pirates are
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: very torture heavy. They go searching into the forest for
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: the townspeople who fled, and they come across an enslaved man.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: The pirates promised him gold and his freedom if he
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: showed them where people were hiding, and yeah, he did, right,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: I feel like also tortured and enslaved or free. I
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: feel like like hedging his bets. This did seem like
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: the best option. Like, I'm not mad at this guy.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: I feel like he was kind of like damned if
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: he did damned if he didn't like either way he
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: was going to be he was going to end up dead.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: So I feel like considered ring. He was viewed as
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: property by you know, the Spanish settlement he was in,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: and these bunch of guys who are just like he
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: show us where these guys are, and you can join
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: our crew and be free. And he's like, you know what,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind being free, actually, and that feels like
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: a good time. So with his help, they find more people,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: who then inform them where more people are hiding. Right,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: they find two hundred and fifty towns people hiding in
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: the forest. They continue to torture people in the most
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: barbaric ways, the rack crushed with boulders burning them, just
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: lots and lots of horrible stuff. Like at one point
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: they find a family and they tell the guy that
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: they're just going to straight up murder and torture his
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: children in front of him if he doesn't show them
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: where more people are. And so yeah, he does that, right.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: This is not a situation where the pirates are the
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: good guys. That being said, nobody hears really that good
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: a guy in this story. So they've been in Gibraltar
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: at this point, I think it's like five weeks, and
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: the citizens of Maracaibo had time to regroup while Morgan's
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: crew plundled and tortured. He took prisoners with him as
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: a bargaining chip, which was very smart in this scenario
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: because when he reached Maracaibo, they were informed that three
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: large Spanish ships had arrived at the very small entrance
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: and were waiting for pirates to try and escape. Permada
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: de Barbolento was under the command of Dona Alenso del
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: Campo Apespinoza. Every Spanish speaker, every Spanish speaker who just
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: helped me say that is like, what is she doing?
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: What are those words coming at her mouth? Does she
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: know what a syllable is? I don't speak Spanish, And
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: I said this in a previous episode sidebar that my
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: friend Sahar she wrote me a letter and I was
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: reading the first few lines and I was really really confused.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: I thought I was going insane. But then I realized
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: that she was writing in Spanish. Like for a second,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: I thought I couldn't read cursive anymore, and then I
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: realized it was in Spanish, and that's why I had
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: no idea what was happening. And she did it to
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: fuck with me because I don't I don't read Spanish.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: So yes, the Armada were under the orders to end
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: piracy in the Caribbean, and to and Captain Morgan decide
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: fuck this for a game of soldiers and sent one
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: of the Spanish prisoners in a small boat to have
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: a week chat with these ships. Yep, not bad idea.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: He returns with a letter from the admiral of the
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Spanish fleet and he says that he's been chasing Morgan's
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: fleet for a while, lost them in the storm and
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: what not, but basically says if he surrenders the prisoners,
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: if he surrenders the treasure, then they can just leave
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: without the threat of attack from their big, massive ships.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: Otherwise they're gonna blow them out of the water. Oh
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: and they'd ensure that they had killed every single last
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: one of them under threat of being blown out of
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: the water by the Spanish Armada. The negotiations last a week,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: just going back and forth. So Captain Morgan asks his
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: men what they want to do, which is very democratic,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Like I said, pirate ships, it's floating democracies, right. He
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: asks them what they want to do, like he's the captain,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: but he needs the crew behind him to do the
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: next part. And his men tell him that they don't
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: want to give up any of their spoils and that
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: they would rather die, and he's like bit So Captain
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Morgan sends another letter back to Espinoza saying he'll release
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: half the prisoners without ransom. The other half were to
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: be ransomed, and if you want it, you gotta pay
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: for it. He also refused to return any of the treasure,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: so the letter gets sent to Espinoza, who is getting
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: more and more pissed and obviously declines this offer. But
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter because this letter only exists to
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: buy some time. Because these pirates, they're out gunned, out manned, outnumbered, outplanned,
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: and they decide that this is yet another situation that
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: can be solved with fire. They plan to send out
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: a fire ship, that is a ship that's set on
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: fire for anyone who's not in the nautical knoll. Basically,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: they make a ship extra flammable or extra inflammable, depending
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: on how big a score you want in scrabble, and
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: they make it look fully manned, so they have logs
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: that are dressed in men's clothing, but really it's only
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: got like a crew of twelve guys. They are on
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: the ship with the logs dressed as people, and they
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: set the ship on fire and abandoned ship. So basically
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: you need the best swimmers to do that job. So
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: they head out with the fire ship leading the fleet,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: and the other ships following the fire ship. The ship
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: on fire collides with the Spanish ships. It hits Don
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: Alonzo del Campo eat Espinoza's massive gunship, setting it on
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: fire and then causing it to sink. Another of the
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: ships catches fire and sails towards the sun. Carlos de
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: la Bara fortress, which now is manned by Espinosa's men,
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: and they shoot it, sinking it because they don't want
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: it taken by the pirates, right, this is that Scotched
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Earth policy. Look, we don't want anybody to have it
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: if we can't have it, so we're gonna burn it
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: to the ground. So the pirates they do take the
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: third Spanish ship and add it to their fleet. And
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: the fortress being manned was a sticky wicket for the
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: men though, so before they tried like the final escape plan,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: they divvied out all the plunder equally just in case.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: So before the fiery ship situation they did this. The
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: plan was to send ten men ashore in a robot,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: two men rowing right and then ten being brought to
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: the shore. So there's technically twelve fellas in a rowbot. Right.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: So this was spotted by the Spanish manning the fort
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: so it readied itself for a land attack, a land
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: attack that wasn't coming. They'll slink it. Whether I tell
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: you the sneaky decay when the boat was bringing the
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: men ashore, No it wasn't. It just looked like it was.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: So when the boat is rowing to shore. So you've
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: got twelve men visible sitting up in the boat. Two
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: men are rowing and the other ten are just sitting there. Right,
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: that is being sailed over to the land and there
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: for a little while, and then when it rows away,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: they only see the two men rowing. That's because when
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: the boat rowed away from the shore, the ten men
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: laid down as not to be seen. And they did
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: this many times. Right, they had done this, I think
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: from what was it, from like morning tonight or night
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: to morning. They did this like over the course of
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: several hours, to make it look like they were just
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: ringing more and more men to shore. And so, because
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: they thought all these guys were going to attack them
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: from land, the Spaniards had fortified the side of the
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: fortress facing the land, expecting the attack to come from there,
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: and the entire side that face the sea was free
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: of cannons. So the pirates were able to sail away
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: without receiving more damage. Now, well this is going on, Well,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: all of this is happening, and they are out away,
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: going free. The British and Spanish are communicating, right, Basically,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: the Spanish are sick of being raided, especially when they're
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: not doing it to British territories, right. If they were
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: both like attacking each other's settlements, then you know that
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: would be a thing. But they're not both doing it.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: It's just these British privateers that are doing it, and
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: pirates and the buccaneers, because like the French who had
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: it as well, like became, they they're all at it, right,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: So they're saying privateers are the problem, right, And then
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: you've got modifor Tales saying that private tals are necessary.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: But also I never told them to do that. So
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: this all reaches a boiling point with the attack by
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: Morgan and his fleet, and when Marianna of Austria, the
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: Queen Regent of Spain, hears about this, she declares war
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: on all the English in the Caribbean. She orders all
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: of our governors to dispossess the English of their ships, islands,
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: places and ports. She even allowed the governors to issue
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: letters of mark against English vessels. So now the Spanish
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: are privateering too, and Mordyford he is now bricking it
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: because he's the one in Jamaica, he was the one
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: at risk, and he's pleading for permission to attack the
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: Spanish in retaliation, but the Crown did not want to
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: poke the bear because they were trying to negotiate a treaty.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: When Captain Manuel Roberto Pandal attacked a northern part of
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: Jamaica and left a note, This note allegedly's challenges Captain
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Morgan to a battle. I mean, it's like, come and
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: get me, so Mondyford, he is super freaking out now
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: and makes Henry Morgan commander in chief of all port
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Royal ships and authorized any attack on Spanish vessels and
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: ports if necessary. So England, right, it's saying don't attack
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: the Spanish, and so Mordiford says he as modest as
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: possible when carrying out attacks of war, and obviously Morgan's like,
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: I'll try, but if there's a threat, wink wink, nudge nudge,
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, So off.
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: He sales to the Lavash And yeah, he's sucking so
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: many Spanish ports, like at a time when he's been
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: told not to fucking do it, like it modestly, and he's.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: Like, I'm going to fuck with every single one of
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: these places. Right, He's raiding and plundering with a force
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: of fifteen hundred men he speaks to his captains about
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: what to do next. Right, they have a war council
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: and they all agree that they should attack a Spanish city.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: Remember in the last episode that thing about Panama, Well,
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Panama City is not in the Caribbean, it's not in
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: the Caribbean because it's not in the Caribbean side like
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: it's on the Pacific, right. So in order to get
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: to it, and it's it's a bit of a trick
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: to get there in fairness, So in order to get
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: to it, Morgan has to sail down the Chagris River
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: with his fleet. Also, in addition, further more, this river
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: was also guarded by the Chagris Castle. So after the
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: castle they have to sail like forty fifty miles down
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: this river, then walk when they get closer. But before
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: all of that, they have to attack the island of Providence,
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: which was manned by three hundred Spanish soldiers. They besieged
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: the island for two days and eventually they surrendered. So
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: after this, about somewhere between like four hundred and five
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: hundred men were sent to take Chagras Castle, which they did,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: but they lost one hundred and fifty or so men
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: in the attack, and about a week after this, Captain
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: Morgan regrouped with his twelve hundred men and sailed down
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: the Chagris River.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: Have we.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: Sailed halfway and then walked halfway, right, I mean that's
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: a hell of a treck man. They would have been exhausted,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: which obviously is not the best date to be in
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: to besiege a city. So after they sail forty fifty
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: miles and then walk the rest of the way, because
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: it's just not any other option with this terrain, there's
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: just not. So when they land outside Panama City, they
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: are met with a Spanish force of two thousand, five
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: hundred men, which is more than double what Morgan had.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: In these Spaniards they fire a single shot and then
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: they bolt it like they'll go. So that's weird, right,
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: And what's weirder is that when they get to into
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: the city almost every building is burning. The president of
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: Panama had set the city ablaze before fleeing because he
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: didn't want it taken by pirates. So the booty here
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: it was a small one for all that effort. So
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: then on the way home it got worse. The fleet
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: got absolutely banjacked by storms. They ran out of provisions
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: and in the end four fifths of the fleet that
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: left Jamaica died. That being said, when Captain Morgan returned
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: to Jamaica, he was seen as an English hero. Meanwhile,
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: England and Spain had signed a treaty which ended the war,
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: meaning Captain Morgan's attack on Panama happened during a time
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: of peace and Spain was pissed. But they didn't want Morgan.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: They wanted his boss, Thomas Morryford. So he gets taken prisoner,
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: brought back to England and chucked into the Tower of
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: London for three years. On fact, when he's released, he
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: just returns to Jamaica. He just goes back. Captain Morgan too,
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: He is called to England to defend all his plundering,
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: pillaging and marauding on the Spanish. So he gets brought
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: before the King, who's like, but why though, like you
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: did it, but why you had a letter of mark,
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: you knew the rules, like why do you do it?
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: And Henry Morgan He's like, I had orders and I
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: had authorities, so I just did it like I could.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: And this level of just again massive Cohone's right, just huge,
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: just just the testosterone oozing out of this man. He
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: was just it's such audacity, and like King Charles was
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: like really into it, like he really sort of got it.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: And here's the thing as well, the stories of Captain Morgan,
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: the pirate, the privateer who's like defending British territories in
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: the Caribbean. Remember how they said the Spanish were gonna
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: ta Jamaica. Remember how the Spanish attacked to Jamaica like
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: after this. So because those attacks started happening, it was like, look,
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: he was right as if he wasn't the fucking trigger,
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: you know. And Morgan Morgan is just really impressing everybody.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: And so the King and the court they're like, oh,
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: you had orders, that's fair enough. And so he's so
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: impressed with this just stuff. He's like, oh, you did
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: really well.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: And so.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: He unites him, like he unites him like a Bachelor
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: of the realm or something. He even contacts him for
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: advice on how to fight with the Dutch. Right, He's like, listen,
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: I gotta fight the Dutch, even though I was over
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: there for so long and now now we're just at war.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: So advice please, and so obviously he gives it to them.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: Then In sixteen seventy five, Captain Morgan returns to Jamaica
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: after he is named Lieutenant Governor and commander in chief
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: of the island and its forces. At this point, he
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: had three large plantations and he's leading campaigns against the
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: Jamaican Maroons. Right, he's again he's not a good guy.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: It's after this the Captain Morgan gets into politics and
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: like he's supposed to be ridding the Caribbean of pirates
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: and private tales, but he kind of turns a blind
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: eye to a lot of it and uses Port Royal
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: for that sort of Hey, come over and do your stuff. Yeah,
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: do your trade, We'll take the spices you've stolen or whatever.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: By the late sixteen seventies, right, the French are becoming
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: an increasing threat in the Caribbean, and Morgan declares martial
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: law in both sixteen seventy eight and sixteen eighty where
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: he was made a temporary governor. Like he refortified the
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: port and increased artillery defenses, and he's just like preparing
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: for this kind of stuff. And when he's on the
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: Assembly of Jamaica, like he tries to keep things right,
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: but his secretary commits fraud forging his signature on an
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: illegal proclamation establishing the monopoly of the Royal African Company. Yeah,
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: that's that's the slave trade, guys, that's a slave trade.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: So two former governors who absolutely hated him, after donating
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: a good chunk of money to the Crown, Captain Morgan's
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: commissions as lieutenant, lieutenant general and lieutenant governor revoked. Now
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: I had someone Emily Sidebar to be like, if it's American,
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: it's lieutenant. If it's British, it's lieutenant. I know I
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: was one, and I'm like, you know what, that's fair.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: That's fair. That's on me. Sometimes my brain doesn't click
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: if it's the same spelling, and I'm like, is it okay? Shit?
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: But yeah, so he's lieutenant leftenant. It just sounds better
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: when you say it with the accent. Now Morgan, he's
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: got his lieutenant governor and lieutenant general revoked, but he
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: is still on the Assembly of Jamaica. But he's not
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: doing great now because he's drinking heavily and the alcohol
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: is a detriment to his health. By sixteen eighty seven,
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: he was ill, very ill. Right. The second Duke of
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: Albemarle was the new governor, and he sends his personal
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: physician to check on him, right, because he's like, something's
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: going on here. I need to make sure this dude's okay,
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: because he he doesn't mind, you know, Captain Morgan the
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: previous governors where we're like we hate this guy, and
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: he's like he's fine. He's just some old dude. And
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: so he sends his private doctor to go check on him.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: And Captain Morgan he's diagnosed with dropsy. So dropsy, if
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: you don't know, is edema. So basically it's like fluid
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: retention and swelling under the skin. The thing with drops say,
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: what adema does is like there's like swelling and heaviness
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: and the affected areas so like it's typically on like
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: arms and legs and feet that you'd notice it. They're puffy,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: they feel heavy, they look swollen. Your skin becomes like
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: tight and shiny and discolored. You can get like dense
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: in it. Sometimes your limbs get ache, your joints get stiff,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: and it's harder to move. Then with this as well,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: you have circulatory issues, right, it reduces blood flow and
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: so you've got the flexibility and like our ray veins
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: and your joints. It's just buggering up your circulation. And
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: then of course you're more likely to get infections with this,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: so you've got like skin ulcers can happen, You've got
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: cerulitis that can happen. I mean, you're more likely to
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: be wounded because of the way the skin is stretched. Right.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: But there's always like a edema, there's usually like an
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: underlying like thing, whether it's like a kidney problem or
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: liver issues. And if he's drinking the way he's drinking,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: I'm not surprised those kidney liver issues, to be honest,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: But like edema basically signals an underlying issue like her
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: kidney liver problems, and many many issues have left untraded.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: Not that there's a lot that you can do. In
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: the seventeenth century. On the twenty fifth of August sixteen
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: eighty eight, Henry Morgan died in his sleep at Lawrencefield Estate, Jamaica.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: The governor ordered a state funeral and Henry Morgan's body
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: was laid out at King's House for those to pay
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: their respects. Here's a wild fact about this. Amnesty was
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: declared so that privateers and pirates could pay their respects
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: without being arrested. Right, they were like, listen, if there's
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: a bounty on you, if you're a pirate, you know whatever,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: you can still come this day, pay your respects to
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: Morgan and you know, without threat of being like arrested
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: or killed like by by the soldiers and the governing body,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: like if someone else shoots you, that's a you problem. Now.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: They did that. So he was buried at Palisades Cemetery
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: on Port Royal and there was a twenty two gun
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: salute from chips moled in the harbor when he died.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: Right when he died, he was a man of means.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: He had like five thousand and two hundred sixty three
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: pounds of his like personal wealth which intoday's money. I
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: put it through a calculator on the Bank of England's
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: inflation calculator, which which by the way, checks how prices
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: in the UK have changed in twelve or nine and
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: so yeah, so two hundred and sixty three pounds in
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: sixteen eighty eight would in as of October this year
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five in today's money, would be one million,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: one hundred and forty eight thousand and six hundred and
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: twenty one pounds and seventy pence, So he died a millionaire.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: So that's that's not that weird.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: So initially he left his plantations and they enslaved people
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: that he owned to his wife, Mary Elizabeth, so when
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: she died because of like his will, they passed to
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: his nephew.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: Which are the children of his brother in law. Like, like,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: it's funny when people tell me that they're related to
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: Captain Morgan, which is like kinda because like there's no
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: direct line there, Like there's no direct line to Captain
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: Morgan because he didn't have any children that we knew of, right,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: but yeah, so effectively his godsons, Charles Bindlass and Henry Archbald,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: they were going to get like all of his estate
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: and everything as long as they changed their surname to Morgan.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: And these were the children of his two cousins right
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: to his sister, Like he gave what was it, like
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: sixty pounds a year and yeah. Yeah, So here's a
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: weird thing that happened a few years after his death,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: like and I mean four years after his death, an
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: earthquake strikes Port Royal and like two thirds of the
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: town sank into Kingston harbor right, including Palasado Cemetery. So
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: Captain Morgan's grave that fell into the sea, so the
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: entire cemetery his body. So it goes into the sea
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: and it's never recovered because of course it isn't because
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: earthquake and the sea and monsters of the ocean. So yeah,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: that's a weird thing to happen, but that is That
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: is the end of the story of the pirate and
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: private tale, because you can be both at once. Of
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: Henry Morgan. Now you might be thinking to l self,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I mentioned it in the last episode.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: I might have mentioned it in the last episode, but
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: I don't remember. If I did. Some of you might thinking, hey,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: is she being a bit of a hypocrite because I'm
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: calling him Henry Morgan as opposed to Harry Morgan because
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: his name was Harry. So a couple of things to remember. One,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: Henry was pronounced Harry like. It was pronounced that way
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: for years. That's why Prince Harry's name is Henry like,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: that's his legal name. So that's a thing like Henry
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: the eighth would have been called Harry the eighth, but
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: it just was. It was a thing back in the
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: day now when he was knighted. So when Henry Morgan,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: when he was knighted by King Charles, he was knighted
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: as Henry Morgan, and so he was known from that
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: point at least as Henry Morgan, if he wasn't before.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: So that was a name that he personally used in
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: his lifetime, that he adopted and used and so as such,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: like we can go back to his name. Right if
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: someone if you call them a name that they were
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: never called in their lifetime, that they never wanted, that
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: someone just gave to them because they thought it sounded better,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: then that's not the same thing. That's not the same thing,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: and it's not good to accept. But again, here ends
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: the story of Captain Morgan. Actually, and I'm going to
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: look up this rum thing on me second. Okay. I
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: looked it up and apparently flavored rum because it's a
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: blend of RUMs with madagaskin Vanilla. Now, no man is
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: an island unless his name is Madagascar anyway, can help myself.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: So hence the story of Captain Morgan. It's a rum
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: ish apparently, not a whiskey or a bourbon. Sorry that
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: it's matured in Bourbon. Barrels, but so are many things,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: like some things or aged in different burrels anyway, Like
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: kind of a whiskey that's aged in a cognac burrel,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: it doesn't make it a cognac anyway. I spent a
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: lot of time visiting distilleries because they're usually in historic
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: places and usually have a really interesting history behind them.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: Even though I don't really drink anymore, it's very rare
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: that I drink. It's like anyway, it's that time at
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: the end. Oh goodness, I have a show in Belfast.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: If you like me and are near Belfast, I am
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: February first playing in Belfast. Come see me. I'm amazing.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: It's the perfect Christmas present to give someone, or an
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: early Mother's Day gift or a Saint Bridget's Day present.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: Just go on, just come see me. I'm very fun.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: And if I have to tell something depressing, I've got
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: jokes in my book. Now I say jokes. I have
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: fun silly facts in my bibs, and they come out.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: It shows the facts, not the boobs. That is a
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: different show. So now, of course we are at recommendation
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: time now for watching. I was a miss last week.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: I think when I did not tell you to watch
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: the classic movie, one of the best pirate movies to
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: exist in the last century, A Muppet Treasure Island. I
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: did a show. Where was it? It wasn't Canada, it
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: was Boston. Where where Whenever I had to tell a
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: really bad part of the story, I had a fun
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: fact about a Muppet Treasure Island. I just I love
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: it so much. It's so good for listening. And I
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: do have link for stay Mad. Go listen to stay Mad.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: Stream it stream stay Mad. Come on, let's support inde
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: printed artists. People. Do I have a new listening recommend No,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: you know what, No, listen to Stay Mad or I
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: will stay Mad. Okay, I'm gonna that shows you how
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: much I wanted to do well because, like I don't
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: repeat intentionally, it happens sometimes because I consume a lot
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: of the same media over and over again. The link
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: is down below stream it now. I've actually had a
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: really fun idea for a video based on that song,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: just because of how much shit I've been getting this week,
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: specifically from men about pirates, and I was like, oh
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: my goodness, I should do like a stay Mad video
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: like sucks to be years boys but yes, and for
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: reading you know what, screw it read Treasure Island by
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: Robert Louis Stevenson. Will it be as good with muppets? No,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: it clearly will not be good without muppets. And of
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: course I love him, I love him so much, Tim Curry,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: Tim Curry, Actually, you know what, bonus though, because Dick
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: van Dyke reached one hundred years old, and I think
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: we really need to celebrate him because he is amazing
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: and I love him, and you know what, he was
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: an absolute stunner when he was younger, right, like you're
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: even even though like even in his diagnosis murder days,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: you would though, ah, that should be a rewatch sometimes,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: But we're not going to do that now because we
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: are very much focused on our pirates thing. Did Dick
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: van Dyke ever play a pirate anyway? That is your recommendation,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: And with that, I am going to say adios, ahavoirs
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: em my friends, bye bye