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BEST OF 520: Gary Payton on Michael Jordan, Nico Harrison + Bow Wow tells CRAZY R. Kelly story · Club 520 Podcast

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: The volume. I don't even have a question for it
• 0:07
  Speaker 1: more or less a salute because, like you said, you've
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: been that niggas since we was kids. We see a
• 0:11
  Speaker 1: lot of people who grow up in Hollywood grow up
• 0:13
  Speaker 1: with for an they don't always end up the same
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: as adults, right, But for you to navigate to be
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: who you are, that's though.
• 0:18
  Speaker 2: But how was that.
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: Growing up with all that type of notoriety and it's
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: still having to be a regular person.
• 0:23
  Speaker 3: Or shout out to my mama. I got a black mama,
• 0:25
  Speaker 3: so you know my mama Sharon doll and shit. Yeah yeah,
• 0:29
  Speaker 3: definitely having my mom in my quarter that played a
• 0:33
  Speaker 3: big role. Yeah you know what I'm saying, and to
• 0:35
  Speaker 3: my career and only that, but just for me, just
• 0:38
  Speaker 3: the basics on what you said. For me, I always
• 0:40
  Speaker 3: studied the ones who came up for me who fucked up.
• 0:42
  Speaker 3: So I'll be watching them like now the way not
• 0:44
  Speaker 3: to do because if I slip down that hole, that's
• 0:46
  Speaker 3: what that's gonna be me.
• 0:47
  Speaker 2: So I'll be learning from motherfuckers making their own mistakes.
• 0:50
  Speaker 3: But you know, I give all credit to my mom,
• 0:52
  Speaker 3: so like without her, like she was like the launcha
• 0:55
  Speaker 3: pat into this shit that kind of prepared me mentally,
• 0:57
  Speaker 3: and then of course me having the legends in my quarter,
• 0:59
  Speaker 3: have a the stoop happened that you bade dupre and
• 1:02
  Speaker 3: just you know, even a nelly, you know what I mean?
• 1:03
  Speaker 2: Why I can sit it like a big brother vices.
• 1:06
  Speaker 3: Niggas that's gonna pull up and fight me if I'm
• 1:09
  Speaker 3: out of control, if I want to end down violence.
• 1:10
  Speaker 3: That's why a nigga be on his best behavior in
• 1:11
  Speaker 3: this past couple of years, because I understand what it is,
• 1:14
  Speaker 3: and I understand my brain, understand who I am, and
• 1:17
  Speaker 3: and it takes real big homies and come to see
• 1:19
  Speaker 3: and then bring your ass down here one time, I
• 1:21
  Speaker 3: let you know what you've been.
• 1:22
  Speaker 4: Fucking up on it.
• 1:23
  Speaker 3: And I got a lot of people that love it
• 1:25
  Speaker 3: outside the game. They here inside the game, and they
• 1:26
  Speaker 3: don't want to they't gonna let me. They're gonna let
• 1:28
  Speaker 3: me forever. So yeah, I'm.
• 1:31
  Speaker 5: Sure I gotta tell her.
• 1:34
  Speaker 1: I have me and you had a fun moment one day,
• 1:37
  Speaker 1: of course like that.
• 1:39
  Speaker 5: That's great. But we was out one night in Houston.
• 1:43
  Speaker 5: It was me and you.
• 1:45
  Speaker 2: I was playing with Boston.
• 1:46
  Speaker 5: We was in Houston. It was COVID time nigga.
• 1:50
  Speaker 6: I know it two minutes that til.
• 1:56
  Speaker 2: When the maryor trying to kick me out.
• 1:59
  Speaker 1: So we had a time and I was like this
• 2:01
  Speaker 1: when I knew, Like, I was like, yo, he a
• 2:02
  Speaker 1: different famous. You know I'm playing on the cell chans
• 2:05
  Speaker 1: j T, j B Autumn. Yeah he was at camp
• 2:11
  Speaker 1: and I said, damn. He walked through and no offense,
• 2:16
  Speaker 1: but like fifty girls ran behind him.
• 2:19
  Speaker 2: I said, yeah, he's a different famous. They roll, they
• 2:22
  Speaker 2: rote with him.
• 2:24
  Speaker 1: I didn't know you brought up to the poor out
• 2:26
  Speaker 1: of see them running behind you.
• 2:27
  Speaker 2: And I looked at Jason.
• 2:28
  Speaker 5: I was like, you got a lot of money, but.
• 2:30
  Speaker 2: You don't got that.
• 2:32
  Speaker 5: He was like, I'm about to.
• 2:34
  Speaker 2: Go get there. I got shake that nigga head on
• 2:36
  Speaker 2: my mama. JT came over to the sexon y'all. Did
• 2:38
  Speaker 2: you fuck y'all?
• 2:39
  Speaker 4: You pull it up? Put up.
• 2:40
  Speaker 2: I'll fuck with JT.
• 2:41
  Speaker 3: But that's my dog man, Like, that's that's family, even
• 2:43
  Speaker 3: you just breaking that up, man, And I wish my
• 2:45
  Speaker 3: boy is speedy recovery. So I told him, I told
• 2:47
  Speaker 3: him go over the big time. Fuck would even check
• 2:49
  Speaker 3: only why he's down, But that's my dog man. And uh,
• 2:52
  Speaker 3: that was that was a matter of fact, was crazy.
• 2:55
  Speaker 2: That was me a soldier boy after party to the
• 2:56
  Speaker 2: Millennium Tour. That was one of the craziest nights at camp.
• 2:59
  Speaker 2: He sure that shit was crazy. It was going up.
• 3:03
  Speaker 2: I wasn't there for long.
• 3:06
  Speaker 4: That's right.
• 3:06
  Speaker 1: You left pee somewhere right here?
• 3:09
  Speaker 2: How did you get your hands sold somewhere? He got
• 3:12
  Speaker 2: about of the earth.
• 3:15
  Speaker 1: I want to ask you, bro, how did the Millennium
• 3:17
  Speaker 1: Tours started?
• 3:18
  Speaker 6: Bro? Who originated that?
• 3:20
  Speaker 3: It originated? I'm gonna be real, Garrett, you know what
• 3:23
  Speaker 3: I mean. It all started with Gary. That's to promote him,
• 3:25
  Speaker 3: the BPC. You know Gary. They came up with this
• 3:29
  Speaker 3: concept to uh, you know, bring back that vibe again,
• 3:32
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
• 3:33
  Speaker 2: The screen stort started with me, you know what I mean.
• 3:34
  Speaker 3: That's that's my ship, that staple, that stamp, that staple,
• 3:37
  Speaker 3: And that was the first and pretty much the Millennium
• 3:40
  Speaker 3: So it was kind of like the spin off from that,
• 3:43
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And the first one was
• 3:45
  Speaker 3: twenty nineteen with B two K and I felt that,
• 3:48
  Speaker 3: you know, it wasn't my time to do it hit.
• 3:50
  Speaker 3: I felt that the fans and me understanding her audience,
• 3:55
  Speaker 3: that the beat too K Reunion was their time and
• 3:58
  Speaker 3: it had to happen for them, and it was I
• 4:01
  Speaker 3: didn't want to take away from the moment. The moment
• 4:03
  Speaker 3: was too big, and I set it out and I
• 4:05
  Speaker 3: just watched every artist from that from our time just
• 4:08
  Speaker 3: get the tweet, and it was so pissed, like, man,
• 4:10
  Speaker 3: why the fuck y'all ain't called me? Why the fun
• 4:12
  Speaker 3: I'm like nigga, y'all like bigger than be two K
• 4:14
  Speaker 3: nigga that the girls want to see.
• 4:15
  Speaker 2: Motherfucker be two K.
• 4:16
  Speaker 3: These niggas only come outside of me twenty five years together,
• 4:19
  Speaker 3: so if they.
• 4:20
  Speaker 2: Could catch him one time, they gonna catch him.
• 4:22
  Speaker 3: And then I came out Marion that brought me out
• 4:25
  Speaker 3: as a special guest ship with Crazy and that's when
• 4:27
  Speaker 3: they already they gotta call the dog, Gotta call the dog.
• 4:30
  Speaker 3: Ain't no way you're doing anything Millennial without a Meal
• 4:33
  Speaker 3: or Chris Brown involved in that.
• 4:34
  Speaker 2: Motherfucker. It's just it ain't gonna work like that. Like
• 4:37
  Speaker 2: that's a huh, you know what I mean?
• 4:40
  Speaker 3: Like talk a little shit. It's true, we sold the
• 4:44
  Speaker 3: most for Mama lineus. We got the most hits out
• 4:46
  Speaker 3: of the Millennial. Is us too and I knew the
• 4:49
  Speaker 3: car was gonna come, and when they came, I took
• 4:51
  Speaker 3: the opportunity. Then Mario came back and he he cohead
• 4:55
  Speaker 3: Live with you, and then Gary like we gotta running
• 4:57
  Speaker 3: back again.
• 4:58
  Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, Then were gonna three times in a row.
• 5:01
  Speaker 2: Here we going again.
• 5:01
  Speaker 3: And that was when me, Trey and Marion rose and
• 5:05
  Speaker 3: everybody else. And how this one came about was, you know,
• 5:07
  Speaker 3: I put the call on the Trigger. I called Trigger
• 5:09
  Speaker 3: myself because Trey wasn't picking the phone for niggas. He
• 5:12
  Speaker 3: was not picking up the phone, he was not editating the.
• 5:14
  Speaker 2: Tour at all.
• 5:15
  Speaker 3: And Gary was like, Yo, I need you to put
• 5:17
  Speaker 3: your business head off and I need you to for
• 5:19
  Speaker 3: this call there.
• 5:20
  Speaker 2: I put the call there. I said, Yo, Tray, I
• 5:21
  Speaker 2: need you the headline. He's a headline.
• 5:24
  Speaker 4: Nigga.
• 5:24
  Speaker 3: You handline this this yow ship. I said, Nah, nigga,
• 5:27
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm on some mother type of ship right now.
• 5:29
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I need you to do this. Uh, you know,
• 5:32
  Speaker 3: I don't got time for the for the ego ship.
• 5:34
  Speaker 3: That's why I fuck with Trigger.
• 5:36
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
• 5:36
  Speaker 3: Just put some positive touches on my nigga Nigga Solid
• 5:40
  Speaker 3: came on the tour to to stay rocked Out. One
• 5:43
  Speaker 3: of the best Tom partners I think I ever had
• 5:45
  Speaker 3: in my career. Understands with its tape and and all,
• 5:50
  Speaker 3: we can be able to do this again.
• 5:51
  Speaker 6: You need to running back. I can't bring me two
• 5:53
  Speaker 6: k Ben ain't too farud No, No, we.
• 5:56
  Speaker 2: Got some ship cooking on the works. I can't really
• 5:58
  Speaker 2: speak on it too much.
• 5:59
  Speaker 3: But it's I'm big on down in December as as
• 6:02
  Speaker 3: of now, something real big on down post.
• 6:04
  Speaker 4: Listen to.
• 6:06
  Speaker 6: What's that nigga name over there?
• 6:08
  Speaker 5: And I don't know here?
• 6:09
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 6:11
  Speaker 2: There you go, niggers be.
• 6:15
  Speaker 7: They ain't ready for no tour.
• 6:16
  Speaker 2: Man, Hey, look believe it or not, throwing out here's
• 6:19
  Speaker 2: your shoot and ship.
• 6:21
  Speaker 3: That nigga low key is like the motherfucker very smart
• 6:25
  Speaker 3: when to come into finish stuff like of for show
• 6:27
  Speaker 3: you the mother fuck that's in the office with Gary
• 6:28
  Speaker 3: and putting this ship together. So I gotta give it
• 6:32
  Speaker 3: to I give it the rads on that point.
• 6:33
  Speaker 4: Now let me have that.
• 6:34
  Speaker 2: That's fool you clay that ship.
• 6:39
  Speaker 5: Then y'all don't watch these two niggas that move tonight.
• 6:41
  Speaker 4: Man, that's a while backcourt. That's right.
• 6:45
  Speaker 1: So now, speaking of your family, you gotta address for
• 6:48
  Speaker 1: your cousin.
• 6:49
  Speaker 5: Put some on bout wild name Man, your cousin Orlando.
• 6:53
  Speaker 4: That's my feeling for real.
• 6:56
  Speaker 2: That's my love. That's real Blue his cousins, that's like
• 7:01
  Speaker 2: f So he be tripping the time, Nigga, that's.
• 7:07
  Speaker 5: That's cry.
• 7:11
  Speaker 7: He said he was, and I think it was kaking.
• 7:16
  Speaker 1: Listen, man, he'd be wild trying to go wold.
• 7:20
  Speaker 2: That's my coaku.
• 7:23
  Speaker 5: Excuse my family. He has take life.
• 7:29
  Speaker 6: No no bato niggas.
• 7:31
  Speaker 4: Fade with Orlando.
• 7:33
  Speaker 7: I'm trying to save you from I know his niggas.
• 7:36
  Speaker 1: Bro.
• 7:37
  Speaker 5: If y'all see my cousin, Bro, you biggest he know, Bro, don't.
• 7:41
  Speaker 2: Beating hen Man, nobody anticipating.
• 7:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he be tweeting.
• 7:46
  Speaker 6: He ain't.
• 7:46
  Speaker 2: The fact that I know.
• 7:48
  Speaker 7: He told me he was gonna beat me here one day.
• 7:49
  Speaker 5: I said, run right, you gotta meet his.
• 7:58
  Speaker 2: Family. Bro, I gonna lie right the first time, I said, Man,
• 8:02
  Speaker 2: I want to know, I want to funk. It didn't
• 8:04
  Speaker 2: so bad shit with me. I swear to god, I
• 8:06
  Speaker 2: was hot at first, and then I'm like, what am
• 8:08
  Speaker 2: I gaming out.
• 8:08
  Speaker 1: Of this ship?
• 8:09
  Speaker 5: Like you beat t bro, don't worry about.
• 8:11
  Speaker 3: I'm like, what am I gonna gain out of nothing?
• 8:13
  Speaker 3: Like it's like you're gonna sue me? Like I help
• 8:15
  Speaker 3: getting nothing out of that ship? Then, Imeel, like the
• 8:17
  Speaker 3: people this man, you know that nigga crazy mother fuck
• 8:19
  Speaker 3: about you get no points off that nigga. Like so
• 8:21
  Speaker 3: it's like a lose lose either way it goes. So
• 8:23
  Speaker 3: I said, some ship you just gotted to. Let less
• 8:25
  Speaker 3: ship slide, But that nigga keep playing it.
• 8:27
  Speaker 2: I'm a polo.
• 8:29
  Speaker 5: I'm apologize because.
• 8:31
  Speaker 2: Keep playing Shah get him my lad Joe.
• 8:35
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna call him a knife man.
• 8:41
  Speaker 4: Over man.
• 8:43
  Speaker 7: He really gonna he really gonna beat my nigga up.
• 8:45
  Speaker 5: And it's like I.
• 8:46
  Speaker 2: Wondered, all right, he said, one more thing, I'm letting
• 8:50
  Speaker 2: this spot.
• 8:52
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna call him a knife man.
• 8:55
  Speaker 2: Let against say one more things.
• 8:58
  Speaker 7: You see it.
• 8:59
  Speaker 2: Granted, Michael, that would be tripping, but you know, you know,
• 9:03
  Speaker 2: honestly know the nigga.
• 9:05
  Speaker 3: The nigga really talented though, but no, and I said,
• 9:07
  Speaker 3: it's ractick, you know what I'm saying, Like the nigga's
• 9:10
  Speaker 3: really funny. Like I just feel like if somebody really
• 9:13
  Speaker 3: got a nigga real opportunity and put him in a situation,
• 9:15
  Speaker 3: a real active.
• 9:16
  Speaker 2: Situation that hell sean or a real movie role. I
• 9:18
  Speaker 2: don't a fight, just anything, you know what I'm saying.
• 9:20
  Speaker 2: I always said that ship.
• 9:21
  Speaker 8: Because if you know, motherfuck, it's actually funny. Though it
• 9:24
  Speaker 8: was actually funny. I give it to get my nigga together.
• 9:25
  Speaker 8: And may your cousin you you're talking, we get him together,
• 9:31
  Speaker 8: second customer.
• 9:33
  Speaker 5: Through marriage though.
• 9:35
  Speaker 2: Just keep it real, so I don't count nor.
• 9:42
  Speaker 4: Go ahead, and.
• 9:47
  Speaker 2: What's I don't know?
• 9:55
  Speaker 6: No, I want to talk to you about hubin though,
• 9:57
  Speaker 6: bro on the door. But did you play coming up?
• 10:01
  Speaker 6: Was that one of the things you.
• 10:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sports was first? Sports was first?
• 10:07
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
• 10:07
  Speaker 2: Just growing up to Columbus. You know, we got the
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: gust backer out there.
• 10:09
  Speaker 3: I know y'all know I'm playing in the gust back
• 10:13
  Speaker 3: a couple of times going up from there, we got
• 10:15
  Speaker 3: we got spacked up. We was terrible and I was
• 10:19
  Speaker 3: famous too. That's like first ibu about I went back
• 10:21
  Speaker 3: to the city, got of that ship. We got like,
• 10:23
  Speaker 3: are so hot as fuck? You know how that ship
• 10:26
  Speaker 3: is like a quarks They give you a map. You
• 10:27
  Speaker 3: gotta try Lokatero court like it was just too much.
• 10:31
  Speaker 3: But growing up for show like basketball was my everything.
• 10:34
  Speaker 3: Like I honestly felt like, damn, I I had a chance.
• 10:37
  Speaker 3: So I said, damn, a nigga is almost grown, and I.
• 10:39
  Speaker 2: Just stopped the brawl. It's just it's just not gonna
• 10:42
  Speaker 2: happen for me.
• 10:43
  Speaker 3: And then uh, I watched I saw Cherry Maguire and
• 10:46
  Speaker 3: I said, I know I can't play the game. I
• 10:47
  Speaker 3: could play, but I said, I know I probably can't
• 10:49
  Speaker 3: play physically, but I want to be a part of
• 10:51
  Speaker 3: the game somehow, you know what I mean.
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: And I said, damn, I want to be a sports
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: agent for sure.
• 10:55
  Speaker 6: Who was one of the coldest entertainers hooped up?
• 11:01
  Speaker 7: What right?
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: Prince?
• 11:07
  Speaker 2: Hey, I don't know, y'all probably heard stories.
• 11:09
  Speaker 3: I hate to keep Oh what's I hate to keep
• 11:11
  Speaker 3: bringing this nigga name up, but the first person because
• 11:14
  Speaker 3: I could say so many people that she was like this, Ah, yeah,
• 11:16
  Speaker 3: well we know he could play a bro that.
• 11:18
  Speaker 2: Nigga ar Kelly could play he good.
• 11:22
  Speaker 6: I don't care what nigga.
• 11:24
  Speaker 2: Hey, R Kelly is the greatest every from the shop.
• 11:27
  Speaker 4: Hey is it Robert?
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: Robert did that ship? R Kelly, let me tell you
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: something about this, stated on, Hey, look this is lady.
• 11:36
  Speaker 3: I know this shit gonna go everywhere because I don't
• 11:38
  Speaker 3: know nobody even told the story. I remember one time,
• 11:40
  Speaker 3: it's a funny ass ship, right this nigga. So this
• 11:44
  Speaker 3: nigga Chris, right this nigga called me the nigga bro
• 11:48
  Speaker 3: Brow called me like, yo, bro, what you're doing this weekend?
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: I said, nigg I got a studio session with R. Kelly.
• 11:53
  Speaker 3: That nigga Chris never met Kill. So he like, shit,
• 11:57
  Speaker 3: I'm free, nigga, I'm coming. Let go the gona fuck
• 12:00
  Speaker 3: with y'all. Man, I would have I want to meet it, Like,
• 12:04
  Speaker 3: I'm like cool, come on, come down. We're working on
• 12:07
  Speaker 3: I'm a flirt. So the nigga kills. It's probably like
• 12:10
  Speaker 3: one in the morning. Nigga like we're going to the jim.
• 12:14
  Speaker 3: We're about to play basketball right now, we're about to
• 12:17
  Speaker 3: go to the hip.
• 12:19
  Speaker 6: We really go to the gym.
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: It's proboubly two in the morning. I swear to gut.
• 12:22
  Speaker 3: I never seen niggas play five oh five, but it
• 12:24
  Speaker 3: was like playing five oh one because every time a
• 12:26
  Speaker 3: nigga got the rebound or kill seam is pastor the kills,
• 12:29
  Speaker 3: passa kills, passing the kills. Every time one of these
• 12:31
  Speaker 3: niggas gonna rebound, you had to pass the ball to
• 12:35
  Speaker 3: r my line, you got to pass it to this nigga.
• 12:38
  Speaker 3: And I'm talking about this nigga is walking up the
• 12:40
  Speaker 3: court shooting from half, then niggas rebounding it.
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: If you get it again, they kicking it back out
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: the art. Killer. I like, no way shooting you, he said,
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: is that? Yeah, said, you can listen kill.
• 12:59
  Speaker 3: I'm talking about the like like me and this nigga,
• 13:03
  Speaker 3: Me and this nigga breeze eve me in this basis,
• 13:05
  Speaker 3: like y'all, nobody gets shoot on this nigga team but him.
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: This nigga's incredible. But he wanted to topic and looked
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: up making the ship though.
• 13:15
  Speaker 4: That's what Yeah, so he going crazy right now and
• 13:22
  Speaker 4: if he did miss.
• 13:27
  Speaker 7: Now saying it like that, excuse this nigga.
• 13:30
  Speaker 4: Man, they play no funny ship.
• 13:33
  Speaker 6: Though, how is that working with him to the studio
• 13:35
  Speaker 6: because we don't get no all killing stories at all
• 13:37
  Speaker 6: on our ponds.
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: Man, the niggas are the musical fucking chane bro.
• 13:42
  Speaker 3: Like you know, shout out to a little Ronnie hen
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: One who produced Same Girl, and he did on the
• 13:46
  Speaker 3: flirt for us, and you know what I mean when
• 13:48
  Speaker 3: he did the record was at the house and I
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: was stuck like I did, like sometimes as writers and
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: rappers getting rids block, he writes so much ship that
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: she'll start rewriting the same.
• 13:57
  Speaker 5: Like what the fuck?
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: So I took a break. The nigga kills called like
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: like what you're feeling.
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: I'm like, man, shit, I know it's got to be
• 14:03
  Speaker 3: for the ladies, like it's me and you like, it's
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: got to be for the ladies. And I got you
• 14:07
  Speaker 3: give me, give me like fifteen minutes, motherfucker call back
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: and go it's a boy.
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: And I was like what nigga Like he said no, no, no, no, Noah,
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: it's a boy. It's a boy. I said what he said.
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: We got ahead and they support the nigga press play
• 14:25
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• 15:53
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  Speaker 7: You're talking about this like you know, I don't want
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  Speaker 5: I just seen some reports outs today here.
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  Speaker 2: What's the vibes though?
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  Speaker 6: So y'all got ladies in there?
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just I think for any artist that's a
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• 16:53
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• 16:55
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• 16:58
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• 20:01
  Speaker 7: Best point Guard? Mess up John Stockton by far. He
• 20:05
  Speaker 7: was just a little bit more crafty. Everybody thought he
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: was dirty, but we was just stupid. We just didn't
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  Speaker 7: know how to plane. It took me six years of
• 20:14
  Speaker 7: figuring him out. And then when I figured him out,
• 20:16
  Speaker 7: when we beat him in the Western Conference finals.
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  Speaker 4: I figured him out.
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: I figured out I can't keep doing the same thing
• 20:22
  Speaker 7: I do with him and try to overmatch him. I
• 20:24
  Speaker 7: gotta play the same way he played, and I gotta
• 20:27
  Speaker 7: just every time I pound him, he'll fall and take
• 20:29
  Speaker 7: a charge. Then I started saying, no, I know he
• 20:32
  Speaker 7: gonna hit. He gonna think I'm hit him twice, but
• 20:35
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• 20:36
  Speaker 7: step off, and then he shoots a jumper in his
• 20:38
  Speaker 7: face and do everything and then face him up and
• 20:40
  Speaker 7: go around him.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: He couldn't deal with.
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: Me that day.
• 20:43
  Speaker 7: And then when I figured him out, it was a
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: little bit different. And then, you know, like everybody know today,
• 20:49
  Speaker 7: I idolized him a lot. You know what I'm saying.
• 20:51
  Speaker 7: He's like one of my best friends, and you know,
• 20:53
  Speaker 7: and it was just I really love playing against players
• 20:59
  Speaker 7: like that, you know what I'm saying, Because you got
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: me more of an IQ of the game, and John
• 21:05
  Speaker 7: Stock and Jim Hardaway, Kevin Johnson, Rod Stricklandkie Blaylock, people
• 21:12
  Speaker 7: like that. I wanted to play against men, you know
• 21:14
  Speaker 7: what I'm saying, because they gave me more game and
• 21:17
  Speaker 7: maybe more of a better basketball player.
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: For sure.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: We got to talk about Oakland, like we said, you
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, it's a lot of talented point
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: guards come out of Oakland.
• 21:30
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Obviously y'all had a conversation recently on another podcast, and
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: y'all was talking about top guards in Oakland, and we
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: brung up Dame Lillard, Jason Kidd and you and I
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: went with Dane, that's my that's my class. That's the
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: guys I grew up playing against. I think Simba said
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: simber Symbol might have he said he everybody else says you,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: and I've seen what you said your response. I love
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: for you to elaborate a little more response.
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: It made sense to me.
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: I see the og ship.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Yah, but you where you really start because obviously, yeah, dang,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: my guy. You know, Dame, that's our guy. But when
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: you start breaking down, like hold on, I averaged twenty points.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: The simple it was over there said like, yeah, because
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: people forget.
• 22:22
  Speaker 7: Any highest what you're said. People forgot how I score.
• 22:25
  Speaker 7: People think about my defense. Yeah, y'all got to understand, man,
• 22:28
  Speaker 7: I was scoring like for eight traight years, I was
• 22:30
  Speaker 7: scoring over twenty points a game, you know what I'm saying,
• 22:34
  Speaker 7: And then I was getting down, locking down people and
• 22:36
  Speaker 7: then averaging eight assist in three steals.
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: Gotta understand that that that's that's where the game goes.
• 22:42
  Speaker 7: And people don't understand I scored over like twenty one
• 22:44
  Speaker 7: thousand point People forget that.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, overscore. They they overlooked that.
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: But what I say is about my two youngsters, right, Jay,
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: I raised him. You know what I'm saying, y'all gotta understand.
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: Jay didn't start scoring into the years of his career, right.
• 23:01
  Speaker 7: So if we break it down, Jay is a better
• 23:04
  Speaker 7: PASSWORD than me. You feel what I'm saying. Defender he's not.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Scor he is not. But
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: he's a great IQ guy. You know what I'm saying.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: Dame is my youngster. You know what I'm saying. We
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: can't put Dame in that.
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: Situation right now because he's not fulfilled all the things
• 23:21
  Speaker 7: that he's done. But he's made his mark on the
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: NBA as a shooting and scoring and Dame is a
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: little bit different to point guard than us, you know
• 23:29
  Speaker 7: what I'm saying, because his error came a little different.
• 23:32
  Speaker 7: It's about scoring here now, it's not about passing the
• 23:35
  Speaker 7: ball getting the other people into the game. Jason was
• 23:38
  Speaker 7: a better rebounder than both of us, you know what
• 23:42
  Speaker 7: I'm saying, So it's a little bit different than what
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: we do. Dame didn't steal the ball like we stole
• 23:47
  Speaker 7: the ball, so it's a little different than what we're
• 23:51
  Speaker 7: talking about. Eras it's an era thing.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: I get everybody has their.
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: Opinion about a lot of stuff. But I just say
• 23:59
  Speaker 7: where front from Oakland, you know what I'm saying. And
• 24:03
  Speaker 7: she agreed. We breathe that, and thats just the way
• 24:05
  Speaker 7: we're different.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: I'm the o G.
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. So we did a little different.
• 24:10
  Speaker 7: You guys didn't watch me as much, but you just
• 24:14
  Speaker 7: know who I am.
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Y'all watch me as much.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: Now you are. It'll be like that. But it was
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: like you.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Is like.
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: I played.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: I played against hy and I understand that.
• 24:35
  Speaker 7: I always tell people it's about an era what y'all did.
• 24:39
  Speaker 7: That's why I don't like people to ask me about
• 24:41
  Speaker 7: a goat, because a goat ain't gonna work for me
• 24:44
  Speaker 7: because y'all didn't play at the same time as each other.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: So I can't tell you about a goat. You know
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying. All of us was good.
• 24:51
  Speaker 7: You feel what I'm saying, So you just think about stats.
• 24:54
  Speaker 7: That's why people go with a goat. They think about stats.
• 24:57
  Speaker 7: They say, oh, you want this, mean you want that?
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: Man?
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: But did he play against him? Did he get down
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: at him like that?
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Now?
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: They didn't.
• 25:03
  Speaker 7: Then too many plagugainst Larry Byrd, one of the coldest
• 25:07
  Speaker 7: little motherfuckers I ever seen him on what you're talking about?
• 25:11
  Speaker 7: You know what I'm just saying. Man, You know we
• 25:14
  Speaker 7: didn't play against Wilt Chamblin and Kareem or Dul Jabbar
• 25:17
  Speaker 7: who couldn't stop a skyhook, and and and Will Chamblin.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: Everybody bringing Will Chamblin's records. Feel me.
• 25:25
  Speaker 7: They bringing all these records and they talk about, well
• 25:28
  Speaker 7: he was in the seas or whatever, Well he was
• 25:30
  Speaker 7: twenty two twenty one. Silva's the same. You know what
• 25:34
  Speaker 7: I'm saying, So we don't do goats here, man, I
• 25:36
  Speaker 7: don't you know what I'm saying.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: I don't do goats.
• 25:38
  Speaker 7: So, but what the point guard thing in Oakland, them
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: three was pretty good. We were us three was pretty
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: damn play basketball, and we and two of us is
• 25:48
  Speaker 7: in the Hall of Fame in top seventy five. Dame
• 25:50
  Speaker 7: is already on the top seven five. He's gonna be
• 25:52
  Speaker 7: in the Hall of Fame. We're doing the thing.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: You know, Dame might be might score more points in
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: both of us, but it is what it is, you
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.
• 26:01
  Speaker 7: And I think when they go to New York and
• 26:02
  Speaker 7: say that stuff about the point gods, you know, we
• 26:06
  Speaker 7: got the point gods over here and this West.
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: It's another. It's a trio like that. L A l
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: A got some point going top seventy five.
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: But I'm saying, if the two made the top seventy five,
• 26:27
  Speaker 7: b d is is my youngster, which if he would
• 26:30
  Speaker 7: have got hurt, he would have been you know what
• 26:33
  Speaker 7: I'm saying. But if we all three, if we played
• 26:35
  Speaker 7: them three and have been about yes, don't understand understand
• 26:40
  Speaker 7: though Paul Pierce is from Oakland, California, too, he was
• 26:43
  Speaker 7: born in Oaklen, California, So we got another top.
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Paul, where's that?
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 26:52
  Speaker 7: Paul Piers and grew up around around the corner from me.
• 26:54
  Speaker 7: I grew up with his brother and now he was
• 26:56
  Speaker 7: moly when he was eleven the pall Now, yeah, I
• 27:05
  Speaker 7: tell you at him like he ain't no l a boy.
• 27:08
  Speaker 7: He grew up.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: Eleven.
• 27:13
  Speaker 7: So let me let me break it down. That's the
• 27:16
  Speaker 7: way the game go, you feel. So, yeah, So we
• 27:20
  Speaker 7: got a lot of top seventy five.
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: So you was who like showed you the way coming
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: up in Oakland, Like who put the ball in your hands?
• 27:31
  Speaker 7: My daddy really real, you guys, my daddy coach everybody.
• 27:36
  Speaker 7: We're talking a everybody. Every one of these guys, y'all.
• 27:40
  Speaker 7: Y'all were talking about my daddy coaching and touched hands
• 27:42
  Speaker 7: on So they brought me into that. I really I
• 27:46
  Speaker 7: really idolized George Gervin, who is my stepdad now like
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: my step pops to.
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: Now, but that's coming up in the hood, and OK,
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: my daddy.
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: Was the one who put hands on me and touched me,
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: you know, and he touched a lot of them me
• 27:59
  Speaker 7: coach Jay. You know, Dame came a little too later
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: because he was in the later, but he played against
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: my daddy and my daddy's teens and stuff like that.
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: But that was it.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: You gotta understand.
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: We had b Shaw, Yeah, Antonio Davis there, Greg Falls,
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: we had all them. Cliff Robinson at the player y'all forgot.
• 28:21
  Speaker 7: Bill Russell was from Oakland. Paul Solis is from Oakland.
• 28:25
  Speaker 7: He didn'et have a lot of basketball.
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: You know that, don't part about that. This that's Pops. Yeah,
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: in the city.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: Bro, everybody heard heard about his dad a lot.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: He reminds me of my dad a lot. Your dad
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: reminds me of my dad a lot. And my dad
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: did the same thing. So but you know, it wasn't
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: just about basketball, my pops.
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: My pops, you score around the schools and DC dudes
• 28:58
  Speaker 7: shooting dice over there, say, oh go there go my
• 29:01
  Speaker 7: Daddy's they they're gon.
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: Miss Page's white white escalator.
• 29:04
  Speaker 7: Well whatever, whatever, man, Let's jump over the fence and
• 29:07
  Speaker 7: get up body here, man, because he's gonna get at us.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. My daddy put life in
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: a lot of people.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: He told him how to cook, told him how to
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: do every other things.
• 29:16
  Speaker 7: And that's what I thought about why I went into
• 29:18
  Speaker 7: coaching now while I coach you young guys now, because
• 29:21
  Speaker 7: I want to make them men. Everybody ain't gonna make
• 29:24
  Speaker 7: it in basketball or profession. They got to understand that
• 29:27
  Speaker 7: their lives is been more and more than sports. Their
• 29:30
  Speaker 7: life is everything because they're gonna be a parent at
• 29:32
  Speaker 7: one time too, and you've got to graide somebody. And
• 29:36
  Speaker 7: that's what I always tell them, And that's what that's
• 29:38
  Speaker 7: why I got into coaching, because I want to tell
• 29:41
  Speaker 7: them that and understand that you can't always be.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: Who you want to be, but you can be who
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: you want to be a different work in a different aspect.
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
• 29:51
  Speaker 7: You could be a lawyer, doctor or whatever and make
• 29:54
  Speaker 7: an impact on anybody's life.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: And we got to understand that.
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's what I will tell you as well.
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: Big him up. He coaches the alma mater, you know
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: what I'm saying.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: So the impact you have on them kids, not even
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: from a basketball standpoint, just show like you can be
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: something in life where you can move like you can
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: have these morals and be successful other avenues. Is very
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: important because we don't got that much representation our community.
• 30:13
  Speaker 7: Absolutely, and that's what we got to always be big
• 30:17
  Speaker 7: on when my daddy gave it to me, but then
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: God told him to pass it on to me and
• 30:22
  Speaker 7: keep it going, you know what I'm saying, because we
• 30:24
  Speaker 7: got to catch these young kids because his mental health
• 30:26
  Speaker 7: stuff is really killing us right now.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: They don't know how to respond to people and say, Yo,
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: I know you helping me. Let me let you help me.
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: Let me tell you about my situation.
• 30:37
  Speaker 7: Because I can get a lot of these kids out
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: of these situations and get them into some help programs
• 30:41
  Speaker 7: and do the things that they have to do. But
• 30:43
  Speaker 7: you have to give them some support because none of
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: them really grew.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: Up like that.
• 30:47
  Speaker 7: They only grew up with a mama. Me and Jeff
• 30:50
  Speaker 7: grew up with a daddy. See, our daddy was a
• 30:53
  Speaker 7: big partner life. Most of the people didn't grow up
• 30:55
  Speaker 7: with the pops like that. So we got to understand that.
• 30:58
  Speaker 7: And most of my guys who I did, didn't grow
• 31:00
  Speaker 7: up with dad.
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: He's like that.
• 31:01
  Speaker 7: They grow up mamas where they can go on the
• 31:03
  Speaker 7: streets and do whatever they wanted to do any time
• 31:05
  Speaker 7: of their life. And my daddy was there to take
• 31:08
  Speaker 7: take responsibilities for him. So we have to understand that.
• 31:12
  Speaker 7: So we got to give them that support, got to
• 31:14
  Speaker 7: get into it.
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: I definitely want to ask you to uh Sean Kent
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: from our state. He's Indiana, you know what I mean?
• 31:21
  Speaker 7: Our court Indiana, Indiana.
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah for sure, right man, you know, I know all
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: of us want to ask you, man, how was that?
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: Playing with him?
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: Man? Like that was crazy? Crazy? What turn this out?
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: Listen, man, let me let me tell you all about that.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: Everybody talk about this Live City.
• 31:49
  Speaker 7: No no disrespect to uh CP and them and all that.
• 31:53
  Speaker 7: We were the first ones with Love City. Me and
• 31:56
  Speaker 7: Sean was the first one to get it like that,
• 31:58
  Speaker 7: you know what I mean? With him for seven years
• 32:02
  Speaker 7: was amazing. Me and him are partners now in the
• 32:05
  Speaker 7: cannabis business and all that stuff I see shot on
• 32:08
  Speaker 7: a regular basis. Man, and playing with him and becoming
• 32:11
  Speaker 7: a friend with him is more important than that. That's
• 32:14
  Speaker 7: how a chemistry comes together, and that's how we did it.
• 32:19
  Speaker 7: And people just don't understand. I think, and I always
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: tell Shannas I said, if we wouldn't have got our
• 32:25
  Speaker 7: ego messed up, and his ego messed up. If he
• 32:28
  Speaker 7: would have stayed with me more years, he'll be a
• 32:31
  Speaker 7: Hall of Fame by now, you know what I'm saying,
• 32:33
  Speaker 7: because we'd have made a bigger dynasty.
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: Than what we did. We were one of the two
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: one of the greatest duos ever played with each other.
• 32:41
  Speaker 7: And what I think, and I'm trying to get him
• 32:43
  Speaker 7: in the Hall of Fame now for what he's done
• 32:46
  Speaker 7: with me, you know what I'm saying. So I just
• 32:50
  Speaker 7: think I had a blessing to play with a person
• 32:52
  Speaker 7: with that much talent because I can just throw the
• 32:55
  Speaker 7: ball up to him and he would go get it anywhere.
• 32:58
  Speaker 7: But people don't understand how good he was with the
• 33:01
  Speaker 7: basketball and shooting in the Midchigan in the mid in
• 33:04
  Speaker 7: the mid range game, and it's back to the basket.
• 33:07
  Speaker 7: He was a beast, you know what I'm saying. And
• 33:09
  Speaker 7: so people didn't really understand that about how much freak
• 33:13
  Speaker 7: ability he had. Man, you feel what I'm saying. He
• 33:16
  Speaker 7: had a freak ability that nobody really really knew.
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: That he had.
• 33:20
  Speaker 7: But if you see it every time y'all watch the
• 33:22
  Speaker 7: highlights of all our games, he did some stuff that
• 33:26
  Speaker 7: was so incredible to me.
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: Man.
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: I used to be like, Wow, you know I'm playing
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: with this this dude.
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: We used to see the lobs doing Yeah.
• 33:33
  Speaker 7: Yeah. I usually you always He's always telling me, Man,
• 33:37
  Speaker 7: give me a challenge today. Man, throw it somewhere where
• 33:41
  Speaker 7: I own. You don't think I'm gonna go get it?
• 33:42
  Speaker 7: And I was just throwing up there and He'll go
• 33:44
  Speaker 7: get it.
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: Was that instant chemistry though, it was.
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: It was what happened was in eighty nine.
• 33:51
  Speaker 7: I was in college and he was just coming out
• 33:53
  Speaker 7: right and Sonny's drafted him and they wanted the point guard.
• 33:57
  Speaker 7: And then Bernie Bickerstaff seen me and he said, I
• 34:01
  Speaker 7: think this is a kid that we're gonna get.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: So he started telling Sean to watch me, and Sean
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: I started watching me, and I was in college.
• 34:09
  Speaker 7: They hit me in every now and then, and then
• 34:11
  Speaker 7: they they didn't have a chance to get me at all,
• 34:14
  Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. And then all of a
• 34:16
  Speaker 7: sudden they food around and didn't make the playoffs and
• 34:19
  Speaker 7: then got lottery and.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: Their balls was a chance of what Dallas was this year.
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: They get the cool flags.
• 34:27
  Speaker 7: Their chances with twelve percent to get the number two
• 34:30
  Speaker 7: pick or the number one pick, and they food.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: Around and got the number two picks.
• 34:34
  Speaker 7: Wow, you asked, and I knew I wasn't gonna go
• 34:38
  Speaker 7: no lord and one or two and New Jersey wanted me,
• 34:42
  Speaker 7: but they wanted a point guard and a big man,
• 34:44
  Speaker 7: and Derrick Coleman was coming out, and then Kenny andershonw
• 34:47
  Speaker 7: was gonna come out next year. So I went and
• 34:49
  Speaker 7: told him, don't draft me. You can get Kenny the
• 34:52
  Speaker 7: next year. So I wanted to go to Seattle. So
• 34:56
  Speaker 7: they drafted Derrick Coleman and then I went.
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: I went number two to Seattle.
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so he was a part of the boys ship early.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that.
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: Ain't real, bro, Ain't no way Dallas get that big.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: It happens, man, hey.
• 35:15
  Speaker 7: Man, they crucified my boy and man man because he
• 35:21
  Speaker 7: he traded Luca Man. But you know, a sudden, the
• 35:23
  Speaker 7: batn't even worse when all the mamas got all them
• 35:26
  Speaker 7: injuries and all of a sudden, big back bank. No know,
• 35:33
  Speaker 7: I went into one of them all crazy man, pay
• 35:37
  Speaker 7: ten dollars and got a lottery. What I do I
• 35:41
  Speaker 7: get hit for the bill.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Got the boy boy boy man. Listen, that's one of
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: my favorite NBA moments. Man that they showing that Dravrom. Yes,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: I'm like they cheating.
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: Man, ain't no way supposed to have, no way it's
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: supposed to happen.
• 36:00
  Speaker 7: I knew he was going to a whack team, was
• 36:03
  Speaker 7: a team that was going to be losing, And all
• 36:05
  Speaker 7: of a sudden, I said, Man, you hit the lot
• 36:08
  Speaker 7: at the lottery and hit the lot.
• 36:10
  Speaker 6: And then those teams are at the bottom of the lottery.
• 36:13
  Speaker 7: He their chances were z it's.
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: Not fair that zero Dallas to get that pick and
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: they went to the finals. Last year.
• 36:25
  Speaker 7: That was they was in the finals. They lost the
• 36:28
  Speaker 7: Boston You feel what I'm saying. But you know what
• 36:33
  Speaker 7: I feel for my boy j Kidd as a head coach,
• 36:36
  Speaker 7: I love it. And then I feel for Nico Man.
• 36:39
  Speaker 7: Nico was my rep at Nike. That's like a little
• 36:42
  Speaker 7: brother than me.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: He always looked up to me like that. So I
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: feel for him because what he took. You know what
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: I'm saying.
• 36:48
  Speaker 7: People don't understand. He's the president general manager. He can't
• 36:52
  Speaker 7: make them calls on his own. Owner has to make
• 36:56
  Speaker 7: that call. He can't just say I'll make the call
• 36:58
  Speaker 7: because he's gonna get he's going to get fired. So
• 37:02
  Speaker 7: all you fans out there messing out of him like that,
• 37:04
  Speaker 7: get up out of here with that. It wasn't his call,
• 37:07
  Speaker 7: man to make that decision. He made a decision on
• 37:10
  Speaker 7: what he was told to do or what it was
• 37:12
  Speaker 7: it was supposed to be done, and that's what they did.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: So I'm happy for him. What's gonna happen.
• 37:18
  Speaker 7: You get Kyrie back after this injury, man, which he'll
• 37:21
  Speaker 7: probably come back in January or something like that, and
• 37:24
  Speaker 7: they'll be rolling.
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: They'll make it up there, make a thing ad come back.
• 37:27
  Speaker 7: What it is, Get all the guys get healthy, because
• 37:30
  Speaker 7: if they whole team get healthy, it's gonna be a beast.
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: That it's gonna be a beast.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: Speaking of the finals, and we all watched the last dance,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: I want to ask you on this show, how did
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: they feel knowing you going to the finals against Michael Jordan.
• 37:45
  Speaker 7: In ninety six? That was great man. You remember I
• 37:47
  Speaker 7: got on I got on the cover of Sports illustrating
• 37:52
  Speaker 7: and saying mission impossible. I just want the defensive Player
• 37:55
  Speaker 7: of the year, first point guard they ever do it,
• 37:57
  Speaker 7: and it was just something but people didn't know I
• 37:59
  Speaker 7: got hurt. I tore my calf muscle, and I really
• 38:03
  Speaker 7: would and couldn't move. What I did was I went
• 38:06
  Speaker 7: in there, and they found a solution. They found a
• 38:09
  Speaker 7: little miracle, miracle thing to do. They got my leg better.
• 38:13
  Speaker 7: I wrapped it up a little bit, and then all
• 38:15
  Speaker 7: of a sudden, you know, it's a miracle, you know.
• 38:18
  Speaker 7: So then I started playing and I started feeling better
• 38:21
  Speaker 7: and better and better. Then we got down too much
• 38:24
  Speaker 7: and then I just start saying, let me guard it.
• 38:26
  Speaker 7: And he was averaging thirty three at the time, and
• 38:28
  Speaker 7: then I started making it a pest for him. I
• 38:30
  Speaker 7: started making it a pets for him, and then I
• 38:32
  Speaker 7: broke it down to twenty three. And then what coaches do?
• 38:37
  Speaker 7: They knew I started becoming a problem, so they had
• 38:40
  Speaker 7: to make to solve the problem.
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: What do you do?
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: You solve the problem? So Jordan was taking it personal
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: with me, which I wanted to happen.
• 38:49
  Speaker 7: And then you know, Phil Jackson said, nah, let me
• 38:52
  Speaker 7: put somebody bigger on him and distract him and make
• 38:55
  Speaker 7: it a problem for him, and he put Pipping on me.
• 38:58
  Speaker 7: And Pipping is a bigger player than me. He was
• 39:00
  Speaker 7: six seven, he could be he's mobile. He was there
• 39:03
  Speaker 7: and it was taking a toll on me. It took
• 39:05
  Speaker 7: a real toll on me to try to score and
• 39:08
  Speaker 7: guard Jordan at the same time.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: And it took a toll on me.
• 39:11
  Speaker 7: And then by the time the sixth game came, we
• 39:13
  Speaker 7: had broke it down the three to two. That sixth
• 39:16
  Speaker 7: game came on, I got a little fatigue, you know
• 39:18
  Speaker 7: what I'm saying, and they took us out. You know
• 39:21
  Speaker 7: what I'm saying.
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: It is what it is. It just took us out
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: of the game.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: But it was just good Buffy who fast to see that, Like,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: that's a hell of a matchup, like to hold y'all
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: against one of the players that we called it go
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Like you said, that situation, that just got.
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: To be dope for you in that moment. It's like,
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: I'm here, you know what.
• 39:37
  Speaker 7: It was easy for me because of my mindset. I
• 39:39
  Speaker 7: thought it was always I wanted to play against all
• 39:41
  Speaker 7: the time. You remember, they were seventy two and ten,
• 39:45
  Speaker 7: we were sixty four and eighteen. Y'all forgot that we
• 39:49
  Speaker 7: were the number two team in the league at the time,
• 39:52
  Speaker 7: and we beat him. We beat him out of that
• 39:54
  Speaker 7: one tent out of that ten. So it was like
• 39:57
  Speaker 7: I just wanted the competition. I just wanted to play
• 40:01
  Speaker 7: the beast. You know what I'm saying.
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: I don't straight away from nobody.
• 40:04
  Speaker 7: Man. When I was played, my daddy always showed me, Man,
• 40:07
  Speaker 7: if your leg ain't broken in off, get on the
• 40:09
  Speaker 7: floor and get it.
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: And that's what I did. I just went and got it.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: And he was always the one to take the competitive
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: to me.
• 40:17
  Speaker 7: I love it.
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, how did you respond when you see him laugh?
• 40:20
  Speaker 7: Like?
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: I know you compare. You probably was laughing too, I
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: laugh right.
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: I said it is. I wouldn't even Jeff wouldn't even
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: respected him if he didn't say that.
• 40:30
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I wouldn't even respected him to say anything like that,
• 40:34
  Speaker 7: unless because it's his it's his documentary.
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't care.
• 40:39
  Speaker 8: Man.
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: We all knew what the game was and was whoever whatever,
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: it's good, we knew what it was.
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: Nah.
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: Listen, man, o g We are honored. Man. We appreciate
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: you pulling up on this. Man, it's been a pleasure.
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: Listen.
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: Man, we can't wait. Some things in the works, man,
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: we can't wait to see that happens.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: We ain't gonna say too much.
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Yes, you know I got it.
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: I got it all. Get you know what I'm saying.
• 41:01
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna get it man. Anytime y'all want me on
• 41:03
  Speaker 7: this five twenty club.
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: I'm with y'all.
• 41:05
  Speaker 7: Man, do it a club five twenty Man, y'are doing
• 41:08
  Speaker 7: a great job.
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: I told you. I respect y'all to the fullest.
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: Man.
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: This is what I want to see and young guys
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: like y'all.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Man get it.
• 41:15
  Speaker 7: Man, do what y'all want to do. Man, and they always. Man,
• 41:19
  Speaker 7: set a mark for yourself.
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 41:21
  Speaker 7: Always when you leave something especial with you, Jeffy playing
• 41:23
  Speaker 7: in the league, do your thing. Man, keep doing this
• 41:25
  Speaker 7: with your boys. Hook it up, man, do it and
• 41:28
  Speaker 7: tell y'all need me.
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: Hella Mobile Club five twenty out. I appreciate it.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: The volume