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S6, Ep 145: Navigating Winter Waters: Unconventional Strategies with Mac Brown · The Articulate Fly

• 0:04
  Hey,
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  folks,
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  it's
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  Marvin
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  Cash,
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  the
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  host
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  of
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  The
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  Articulate
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  Fly,
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  back
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  with
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  another
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  casting
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  Angles
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  with
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  Mac
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  Brown.
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  Mac,
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  how
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  are
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  you?
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  I'm
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  doing
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  great.
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  How
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  are
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  you
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  doing,
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  Marvin,
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  as
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  always?
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  I'm
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  just
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  trying
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  to
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  stay
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  out
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  of
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  trouble.
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  How
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  was
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  your
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  Thanksgiving?
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  We
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  had
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  a
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  great
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  Thanksgiving
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  and
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  had
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  all
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  the.
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  All
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  the
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  trimmings
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  and
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  things
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  we
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  made
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  up
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  here
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  at
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  the
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  house.
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  And
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  of
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  course,
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  kids
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  always
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  that
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  there
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  wasn't
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  a
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  whole
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  lot
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  of
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  leftovers
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  with
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  two
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  teenage
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  boys.
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  Yeah,
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  that's.
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  That's
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  pretty
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  good,
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  though.
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  You
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  know,
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  you
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  don't
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  want
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  to
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  be
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  in,
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  like,
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  Thursday,
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  the
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  following
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  week,
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  still
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  eating
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  turkey,
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  right?
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  Oh,
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  yeah,
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  yeah.
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  They.
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  They
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  pretty
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  much
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  ate
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  all
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  that
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  up.
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  We
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  made
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  a.
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  Made
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  a
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  turkey
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  in
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  a
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  spiral,
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  sugar
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  cured
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  ham.
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  Now,
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  I
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  don't
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  think
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  it
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  lasted
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  maybe
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  two
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  days
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  for
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  all
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  of
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  it.
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  So,
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  yeah,
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  it
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  went
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  pretty
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  fast.
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  Yeah.
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  And,
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  you
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  know,
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  it's
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  interesting
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  too,
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  right?
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  We're
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  heading
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  into
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  the
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  holiday
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  season,
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  which
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  means,
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  you
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  know,
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  more
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  and
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  more
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  DH
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  stockings
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  as,
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  you
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  know,
• 1:00
  the
• 1:00
  state's
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  able
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  to
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  get
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  in
• 1:01
  stock
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  more
• 1:02
  things.
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  And
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  one
• 1:02
  of
• 1:02
  the
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  things
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  that
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  happens
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  is
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  between
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  kind
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  of
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  the
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  combination
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  of
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  the
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  winter
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  conditions
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  and
• 1:08
  the
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  fish
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  getting
• 1:08
  more
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  educated,
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  you
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  kind
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  of
• 1:10
  have
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  to
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  get
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  a
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  little
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  bit
• 1:11
  smarter
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  about
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  the
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  way
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  you
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  fish.
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  And
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  we
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  thought
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  it
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  might
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  be
• 1:13
  helpful
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  to
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  talk
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  to
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  folks
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  about,
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  you
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  know,
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  learning
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  to
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  take
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  what
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  the
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  river
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  gives
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  you.
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  Yeah,
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  I
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  think
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  that's
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  a
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  good
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  topic.
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  Just
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  because
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  the
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  difference
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  of
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  having.
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  Well,
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  it's
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  unique.
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  It's
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  unique
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  like
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  in
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  Western
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  Carolina
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  right
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  now
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  because
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  normally,
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  you
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  know,
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  the
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  dh,
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  they
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  don't
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  ever
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  do
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  anything
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  in
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  December.
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  And
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  of
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  course,
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  they
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  did
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  something
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  in
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  December
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  for
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  all
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  the
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  DH
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  programs
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  that
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  are
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  still
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  active.
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  And
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  so
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  we
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  had
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  some
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  new
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  fish
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  again
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  in
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  December,
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  which
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  normally
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  they
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  just
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  do
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  October,
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  November.
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  So,
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  yeah,
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  taking
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  what
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  the
• 1:44
  river
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  gives
• 1:44
  you.
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  And
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  a
• 1:45
  lot
• 1:45
  of
• 1:45
  times
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  these
• 1:46
  fish
• 1:46
  react
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  very
• 1:47
  differently
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  than
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  what
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  you'll
• 1:48
  find
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  on
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  like,
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  Hazel
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  Creek
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  or
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  Deep
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  Creek
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  or,
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  you
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  know,
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  a
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  wild.
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  A
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  wild.
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  More
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  wild
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  stream.
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  Of
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  course,
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  that
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  gets
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  tricky
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  when
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  I
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  say
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  wild
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  stream.
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  But
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  the
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  tricky
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  part
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  is
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  because
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  all
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  my
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  friends
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  at
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  fisher,
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  fishery
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  biologists,
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  I
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  said,
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  well,
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  they're
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  all
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  invasives.
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  Well,
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  I
• 2:04
  look
• 2:04
  at
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  it
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  like.
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  I
• 2:05
  look
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  at
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  it
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  a
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  little
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  bit
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  different,
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  I
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  guess,
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  because
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  I
• 2:07
  look
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  at
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  it
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  like
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  the
• 2:08
  brown
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  trout
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  and
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  rainbow
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  trout
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  that
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  got
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  stocked
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  back
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  in
• 2:11
  the
• 2:11
  mid-1930s.
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  I
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  think
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  we
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  can
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  call
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  them
• 2:14
  wild
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  after
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  this
• 2:15
  many
• 2:15
  years,
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  personally.
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  So,
• 2:16
  I
• 2:16
  mean,
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  they
• 2:17
  might
• 2:17
  be
• 2:17
  invasive,
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  but
• 2:18
  they've
• 2:18
  been
• 2:18
  in
• 2:19
  there
• 2:19
  and
• 2:19
  breeding
• 2:19
  that
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  many
• 2:20
  years.
• 2:20
  I
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  just
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  call
• 2:21
  them
• 2:21
  wild.
• 2:22
  Yeah,
• 2:22
  it's
• 2:23
  kind
• 2:23
  of
• 2:23
  interesting,
• 2:23
  you
• 2:23
  know,
• 2:24
  to
• 2:24
  your
• 2:24
  point,
• 2:24
  like,
• 2:24
  there's
• 2:25
  like
• 2:25
  native
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  wild
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  and
• 2:26
  wild
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  invasive.
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  But,
• 2:28
  you
• 2:28
  know,
• 2:28
  I
• 2:28
  kind
• 2:28
  of
• 2:28
  get
• 2:28
  what
• 2:29
  you're
• 2:29
  saying.
• 2:29
  You
• 2:29
  know,
• 2:29
  if
• 2:30
  folks
• 2:30
  have,
• 2:30
  you
• 2:30
  know,
• 2:31
  had
• 2:31
  hundreds
• 2:32
  of
• 2:32
  generations
• 2:32
  of
• 2:33
  trout,
• 2:33
  they
• 2:33
  probably
• 2:33
  belong
• 2:34
  in
• 2:34
  the
• 2:34
  Smokies,
• 2:34
  just
• 2:34
  like
• 2:35
  the
• 2:35
  brook
• 2:35
  trout.
• 2:35
  Right?
• 2:37
  That's
• 2:37
  kind
• 2:37
  of
• 2:37
  what
• 2:38
  I'm
• 2:38
  thinking.
• 2:39
  Yeah.
• 2:40
  And
• 2:40
  so,
• 2:40
  you
• 2:40
  know,
• 2:41
  it's
• 2:41
  an
• 2:41
  interesting
• 2:41
  thing.
• 2:42
  Right.
• 2:42
  So,
• 2:43
  you
• 2:43
  know,
• 2:43
  some.
• 2:44
  And
• 2:44
  we
• 2:44
  talk,
• 2:44
  you
• 2:44
  and
• 2:44
  I
• 2:45
  talk
• 2:45
  about
• 2:45
  this
• 2:45
  a
• 2:45
  lot
• 2:45
  in
• 2:46
  different
• 2:46
  ways
• 2:46
  when
• 2:47
  we're
• 2:47
  together
• 2:47
  that,
• 2:48
  you
• 2:48
  know,
• 2:48
  people
• 2:48
  say,
• 2:49
  oh,
• 2:49
  well,
• 2:49
  it's
• 2:49
  winter.
• 2:49
  I
• 2:49
  mean,
• 2:49
  if
• 2:50
  you're
• 2:50
  lucky,
• 2:50
  they
• 2:50
  say,
• 2:50
  it's
• 2:51
  winter,
• 2:51
  let's
• 2:51
  go
• 2:51
  do
• 2:51
  this.
• 2:52
  But
• 2:52
  sometimes
• 2:53
  that
• 2:53
  doesn't
• 2:53
  work
• 2:53
  and
• 2:53
  they
• 2:53
  get
• 2:54
  frustrated.
• 2:54
  And
• 2:54
  so,
• 2:54
  you
• 2:55
  know,
• 2:55
  you
• 2:55
  really
• 2:55
  have
• 2:55
  to
• 2:55
  kind
• 2:55
  of
• 2:56
  step
• 2:56
  back
• 2:57
  and
• 2:57
  kind
• 2:57
  of
• 2:57
  what
• 2:57
  we
• 2:58
  were
• 2:58
  kind
• 2:58
  of
• 2:58
  kicking
• 2:58
  off
• 2:58
  the
• 2:59
  episode
• 2:59
  with
• 2:59
  is,
• 2:59
  you
• 2:59
  know,
• 3:00
  take
• 3:00
  what
• 3:00
  the
• 3:00
  river's
• 3:00
  going
• 3:00
  to
• 3:01
  give
• 3:01
  you.
• 3:02
  That's
• 3:03
  right,
• 3:03
  yeah.
• 3:04
  So
• 3:04
  just
• 3:04
  take
• 3:04
  what
• 3:04
  it's
• 3:05
  going
• 3:05
  to
• 3:05
  put
• 3:05
  up
• 3:05
  and
• 3:06
  give
• 3:06
  you.
• 3:06
  And
• 3:06
  it's
• 3:06
  like,
• 3:07
  especially
• 3:08
  this
• 3:08
  time
• 3:08
  of
• 3:09
  year
• 3:09
  with
• 3:09
  new
• 3:10
  stockings
• 3:10
  there
• 3:10
  in
• 3:11
  December.
• 3:11
  I
• 3:11
  mean,
• 3:11
  fish
• 3:12
  do
• 3:12
  a
• 3:12
  lot
• 3:12
  of
• 3:12
  unorthodox
• 3:14
  things
• 3:15
  on
• 3:15
  those
• 3:15
  kind
• 3:15
  of
• 3:16
  programs.
• 3:16
  So
• 3:17
  like
• 3:17
  for
• 3:17
  instance,
• 3:18
  an
• 3:18
  egg
• 3:18
  pattern,
• 3:18
  I
• 3:18
  mean,
• 3:19
  when,
• 3:19
  when
• 3:20
  a
• 3:20
  fish
• 3:20
  is
• 3:20
  on
• 3:20
  a
• 3:21
  red
• 3:21
  and
• 3:21
  there's
• 3:22
  an
• 3:22
  egg,
• 3:22
  a
• 3:22
  stray
• 3:23
  fish
• 3:23
  will
• 3:23
  come
• 3:23
  through
• 3:23
  the
• 3:24
  red
• 3:24
  and
• 3:24
  try
• 3:24
  to
• 3:24
  grab
• 3:25
  an
• 3:25
  egg
• 3:25
  pattern
• 3:26
  off
• 3:26
  of
• 3:26
  it.
• 3:26
  Of
• 3:26
  course,
• 3:26
  they're
• 3:27
  sitting
• 3:27
  on
• 3:27
  the
• 3:27
  bottom
• 3:28
  in
• 3:28
  the
• 3:28
  boundary
• 3:28
  layer.
• 3:29
  And
• 3:30
  so
• 3:31
  what
• 3:31
  I
• 3:31
  mean
• 3:32
  by
• 3:32
  unorthodox
• 3:32
  is
• 3:33
  like,
• 3:33
  and
• 3:34
  they
• 3:34
  has
• 3:34
  no
• 3:35
  mobility
• 3:35
  and
• 3:35
  they
• 3:36
  can't
• 3:36
  just
• 3:36
  swim
• 3:36
  in
• 3:36
  the
• 3:37
  water
• 3:37
  or
• 3:37
  be
• 3:37
  stripped
• 3:38
  like
• 3:38
  a
• 3:38
  streamer.
• 3:39
  But
• 3:40
  what
• 3:40
  people
• 3:40
  have
• 3:40
  to
• 3:41
  remember
• 3:41
  with
• 3:41
  this
• 3:41
  unorthodox
• 3:42
  behavior
• 3:43
  is
• 3:43
  it's
• 3:44
  all
• 3:44
  fair
• 3:44
  game.
• 3:45
  I
• 3:45
  mean,
• 3:45
  they
• 3:45
  don't
• 3:45
  know
• 3:46
  that.
• 3:46
  I
• 3:46
  mean,
• 3:47
  these
• 3:47
  fish
• 3:47
  have
• 3:47
  come
• 3:47
  out
• 3:48
  of
• 3:48
  a
• 3:49
  totally
• 3:49
  different
• 3:50
  set
• 3:50
  of
• 3:50
  circumstances.
• 3:52
  So
• 3:53
  yeah,
• 3:53
  I
• 3:53
  mean,
• 3:53
  you
• 3:54
  can
• 3:54
  do
• 3:54
  things
• 3:54
  like
• 3:55
  have
• 3:55
  an
• 3:55
  egg
• 3:55
  or
• 3:57
  have
• 3:57
  a
• 3:58
  worm
• 3:58
  during
• 3:58
  high
• 3:59
  water
• 3:59
  events,
• 3:59
  it's
• 4:00
  muddy
• 4:00
  water
• 4:00
  and
• 4:00
  actually
• 4:01
  strip
• 4:01
  it
• 4:01
  back
• 4:02
  like
• 4:02
  a
• 4:02
  streamer
• 4:02
  and
• 4:02
  take
• 4:03
  fish
• 4:03
  left
• 4:03
  and
• 4:03
  right.
• 4:04
  Doing
• 4:04
  those
• 4:04
  kind
• 4:04
  of
• 4:04
  techni.
• 4:05
  Just
• 4:05
  because
• 4:06
  you
• 4:06
  don't
• 4:07
  think
• 4:07
  that
• 4:07
  that
• 4:07
  can
• 4:08
  happen.
• 4:08
  The
• 4:09
  fish
• 4:09
  don't
• 4:09
  know
• 4:09
  that
• 4:09
  that
• 4:10
  can
• 4:10
  happen.
• 4:10
  So
• 4:10
  that's
• 4:11
  what
• 4:11
  we
• 4:11
  mean
• 4:11
  by
• 4:12
  trying
• 4:12
  a
• 4:12
  lot
• 4:12
  of
• 4:13
  things
• 4:13
  out
• 4:13
  of
• 4:13
  the
• 4:13
  ordinary.
• 4:14
  I
• 4:15
  think
• 4:15
  it
• 4:15
  gets
• 4:15
  people
• 4:15
  in
• 4:16
  a
• 4:16
  lot
• 4:16
  of
• 4:16
  trouble
• 4:16
  when
• 4:16
  they
• 4:17
  start
• 4:17
  thinking
• 4:17
  about
• 4:19
  the
• 4:20
  representation
• 4:20
  that
• 4:21
  they're
• 4:21
  fishing
• 4:21
  and
• 4:21
  it
• 4:21
  needs
• 4:22
  to
• 4:22
  be
• 4:22
  fished
• 4:22
  totally
• 4:23
  on
• 4:23
  a
• 4:23
  dead
• 4:23
  drift.
• 4:23
  And
• 4:24
  I
• 4:24
  mean,
• 4:24
  that
• 4:24
  can
• 4:24
  get
• 4:24
  you
• 4:24
  beat
• 4:25
  40
• 4:25
  to
• 4:25
  1,
• 4:26
  you
• 4:27
  know
• 4:27
  what
• 4:27
  I
• 4:27
  mean?
• 4:27
  But
• 4:27
  the
• 4:27
  person
• 4:28
  that
• 4:28
  fish
• 4:28
  is
• 4:28
  more
• 4:28
  active
• 4:29
  and
• 4:29
  does
• 4:29
  things
• 4:29
  that
• 4:29
  are
• 4:30
  unorthodox.
• 4:30
  And
• 4:31
  so
• 4:31
  that's
• 4:32
  why
• 4:32
  I
• 4:32
  kind
• 4:32
  of
• 4:32
  like
• 4:32
  this
• 4:33
  topic,
• 4:34
  you
• 4:34
  know,
• 4:34
  tonight
• 4:35
  talking
• 4:35
  about
• 4:36
  to
• 4:36
  do
• 4:36
  the
• 4:36
  unorthodox
• 4:37
  when
• 4:37
  you
• 4:37
  know
• 4:37
  that
• 4:37
  fish
• 4:38
  don't
• 4:38
  have
• 4:38
  the
• 4:38
  conditioning
• 4:40
  to
• 4:41
  know
• 4:41
  the
• 4:41
  difference.
• 4:42
  Yeah.
• 4:43
  And
• 4:43
  then
• 4:43
  kind
• 4:43
  of
• 4:43
  the
• 4:43
  bigger
• 4:44
  piece
• 4:44
  of
• 4:44
  the
• 4:44
  puzzle.
• 4:44
  Right.
• 4:45
  And
• 4:45
  this
• 4:45
  goes
• 4:45
  back
• 4:45
  to,
• 4:46
  like,
• 4:46
  you
• 4:46
  know,
• 4:46
  what
• 4:46
  you
• 4:46
  talk
• 4:46
  about,
• 4:47
  like,
• 4:47
  working,
• 4:47
  for
• 4:47
  example,
• 4:48
  with
• 4:48
  the
• 4:48
  youth
• 4:48
  team
• 4:49
  is
• 4:49
  giving
• 4:50
  them
• 4:50
  a
• 4:50
  process
• 4:51
  and
• 4:51
  a
• 4:51
  progression.
• 4:52
  Right.
• 4:53
  So
• 4:53
  to,
• 4:53
  you
• 4:53
  know,
• 4:53
  what
• 4:53
  you
• 4:53
  were
• 4:54
  talking
• 4:54
  about
• 4:54
  earlier,
• 4:54
  right.
• 4:55
  Is
• 4:55
  like,
• 4:55
  it's
• 4:55
  not
• 4:55
  like
• 4:56
  it's
• 4:56
  important
• 4:56
  to
• 4:57
  have
• 4:57
  the
• 4:57
  skill
• 4:57
  to
• 4:58
  achieve
• 4:58
  a
• 4:58
  dead
• 4:58
  drift,
• 4:59
  but
• 4:59
  that's
• 5:00
  just
• 5:00
  one
• 5:00
  of
• 5:00
  many
• 5:01
  tools
• 5:01
  in
• 5:01
  the
• 5:01
  toolbox,
• 5:02
  Right.
• 5:02
  And
• 5:02
  so
• 5:02
  you
• 5:02
  have
• 5:02
  many
• 5:03
  different
• 5:03
  ways
• 5:03
  you
• 5:03
  want
• 5:03
  to
• 5:04
  present.
• 5:04
  And
• 5:05
  so
• 5:05
  if
• 5:05
  you
• 5:05
  have,
• 5:05
  you
• 5:06
  know,
• 5:06
  multiple
• 5:06
  presentation
• 5:07
  tools,
• 5:07
  then
• 5:07
  you
• 5:07
  need
• 5:08
  to
• 5:08
  have
• 5:08
  a
• 5:08
  roadmap
• 5:09
  about
• 5:09
  how
• 5:09
  to
• 5:10
  employ
• 5:10
  those
• 5:10
  when
• 5:10
  you're
• 5:10
  on
• 5:11
  the
• 5:11
  water
• 5:11
  to
• 5:11
  be
• 5:11
  consistently
• 5:12
  successful.
• 5:14
  That's
• 5:14
  right.
• 5:15
  And
• 5:15
  then
• 5:15
  trying
• 5:16
  to
• 5:16
  take
• 5:16
  it
• 5:16
  a
• 5:16
  step
• 5:16
  further
• 5:17
  and
• 5:17
  try
• 5:17
  to
• 5:17
  do
• 5:18
  maybe
• 5:19
  four
• 5:19
  or
• 5:19
  five
• 5:19
  things
• 5:20
  on
• 5:20
  a
• 5:20
  singular
• 5:20
  drift.
• 5:21
  You
• 5:21
  know,
• 5:22
  is
• 5:22
  this
• 5:22
  because
• 5:22
  we
• 5:22
  dead
• 5:23
  drift,
• 5:24
  we
• 5:24
  could
• 5:25
  still
• 5:25
  lift
• 5:26
  and,
• 5:26
  you
• 5:26
  know,
• 5:26
  ascend
• 5:27
  and
• 5:27
  descend
• 5:27
  a
• 5:27
  fly.
• 5:28
  We
• 5:28
  could
• 5:28
  still
• 5:28
  jig
• 5:28
  a
• 5:29
  fly,
• 5:29
  we
• 5:29
  could
• 5:29
  still
• 5:29
  swing
• 5:30
  a
• 5:30
  fly.
• 5:30
  We
• 5:30
  could
• 5:30
  still
• 5:30
  do
• 5:31
  all
• 5:31
  kinds
• 5:31
  of
• 5:31
  rates
• 5:31
  of
• 5:31
  retrieval,
• 5:33
  or
• 5:33
  we
• 5:33
  could
• 5:33
  just
• 5:33
  do
• 5:34
  a
• 5:34
  hang
• 5:34
  and
• 5:34
  have
• 5:35
  the
• 5:35
  fly
• 5:35
  static.
• 5:36
  But
• 5:36
  what
• 5:37
  I'm
• 5:37
  saying
• 5:37
  is
• 5:37
  what
• 5:37
  I
• 5:38
  see
• 5:38
  over
• 5:38
  the
• 5:38
  years
• 5:38
  is
• 5:39
  probably
• 5:39
  some
• 5:39
  of
• 5:39
  the
• 5:40
  best
• 5:40
  anglers
• 5:40
  that
• 5:40
  I've
• 5:41
  met
• 5:41
  in
• 5:41
  my
• 5:41
  lifetime
• 5:43
  are
• 5:43
  the
• 5:43
  ones
• 5:43
  that
• 5:44
  are
• 5:44
  the
• 5:44
  most
• 5:44
  diverse
• 5:45
  at
• 5:45
  doing
• 5:45
  a
• 5:45
  whole
• 5:46
  lot
• 5:46
  of
• 5:46
  things
• 5:46
  on
• 5:46
  each
• 5:47
  drift
• 5:48
  to
• 5:48
  figure
• 5:48
  out
• 5:48
  which
• 5:48
  one
• 5:49
  gave
• 5:49
  him
• 5:49
  that
• 5:49
  little
• 5:50
  sliver,
• 5:51
  you
• 5:51
  know,
• 5:52
  of
• 5:52
  success.
• 5:53
  And
• 5:53
  then
• 5:53
  once
• 5:54
  they
• 5:54
  recognize,
• 5:54
  oh,
• 5:55
  that
• 5:55
  happened
• 5:55
  when
• 5:55
  I
• 5:56
  did
• 5:56
  this,
• 5:56
  then
• 5:57
  they
• 5:57
  go
• 5:57
  back
• 5:57
  and
• 5:57
  they
• 5:58
  start
• 5:58
  copying
• 5:58
  that
• 5:58
  instead
• 5:59
  of
• 5:59
  doing
• 5:59
  the
• 5:59
  whole
• 6:00
  five
• 6:01
  to
• 6:01
  seven
• 6:01
  things
• 6:01
  at
• 6:02
  a
• 6:02
  time.
• 6:03
  And
• 6:03
  I
• 6:03
  think
• 6:03
  that
• 6:03
  that's
• 6:04
  really
• 6:04
  important,
• 6:04
  I
• 6:05
  mean,
• 6:05
  is
• 6:06
  to.
• 6:06
  That's
• 6:06
  what
• 6:06
  we
• 6:06
  mean
• 6:06
  by
• 6:07
  take
• 6:07
  what
• 6:07
  the
• 6:07
  river
• 6:07
  gives
• 6:08
  you.
• 6:08
  I
• 6:08
  mean,
• 6:09
  there's
• 6:09
  times,
• 6:09
  Marvin,
• 6:10
  that
• 6:10
  we
• 6:10
  can
• 6:10
  be
• 6:11
  out
• 6:12
  this
• 6:12
  time
• 6:12
  of
• 6:13
  year.
• 6:13
  And
• 6:14
  I've
• 6:14
  seen
• 6:14
  this
• 6:14
  so
• 6:15
  many
• 6:15
  times
• 6:15
  over
• 6:15
  the
• 6:16
  years
• 6:16
  that
• 6:17
  people
• 6:17
  could
• 6:17
  actually
• 6:18
  fish
• 6:18
  totally
• 6:18
  static.
• 6:19
  In
• 6:19
  other
• 6:20
  words,
• 6:20
  they
• 6:20
  get
• 6:20
  tired,
• 6:20
  they
• 6:21
  get
• 6:21
  bored,
• 6:21
  whatever
• 6:21
  you
• 6:21
  call
• 6:22
  it.
• 6:22
  They're
• 6:22
  looking
• 6:22
  around
• 6:22
  at
• 6:23
  the
• 6:23
  eagle
• 6:23
  flying
• 6:23
  by
• 6:24
  and
• 6:24
  their
• 6:25
  rods
• 6:25
  just
• 6:25
  sitting
• 6:25
  down,
• 6:26
  pointing
• 6:26
  downstream,
• 6:27
  and
• 6:27
  the
• 6:27
  flies
• 6:27
  just
• 6:28
  sitting
• 6:28
  totally
• 6:28
  static.
• 6:30
  And
• 6:30
  believe
• 6:30
  it
• 6:30
  or
• 6:30
  not,
• 6:31
  they'll
• 6:31
  out
• 6:31
  fish
• 6:31
  the
• 6:31
  person
• 6:32
  that's
• 6:32
  doing
• 6:32
  everything
• 6:33
  right.
• 6:34
  In
• 6:34
  other
• 6:34
  words,
• 6:35
  they're
• 6:35
  just
• 6:35
  holding
• 6:35
  static
• 6:36
  for
• 6:36
  every.
• 6:37
  Everything
• 6:37
  at
• 6:37
  the
• 6:37
  end.
• 6:38
  But
• 6:39
  every
• 6:39
  time
• 6:39
  they
• 6:39
  do
• 6:39
  that,
• 6:39
  they're
• 6:40
  picking
• 6:40
  up
• 6:40
  a
• 6:40
  fish,
• 6:41
  and
• 6:41
  the
• 6:41
  person
• 6:42
  that's
• 6:42
  actually
• 6:42
  doing
• 6:43
  really
• 6:44
  more
• 6:44
  advanced
• 6:45
  techniques
• 6:45
  and
• 6:45
  actually
• 6:46
  what
• 6:46
  I
• 6:46
  would
• 6:46
  call
• 6:47
  fishing
• 6:48
  harder,
• 6:50
  they're
• 6:50
  struggling
• 6:51
  and
• 6:51
  it's
• 6:52
  like,
• 6:52
  that's
• 6:52
  what
• 6:53
  I
• 6:53
  mean
• 6:53
  by
• 6:53
  take
• 6:53
  what
• 6:53
  it
• 6:54
  gives
• 6:54
  you
• 6:54
  is
• 6:55
  there.
• 6:55
  There
• 6:55
  is
• 6:55
  times
• 6:55
  where
• 6:56
  we're
• 6:56
  holding
• 6:56
  a
• 6:57
  fly.
• 6:57
  Static
• 6:58
  downstream
• 6:59
  will
• 7:00
  give
• 7:00
  you
• 7:00
  more
• 7:00
  fish
• 7:01
  because
• 7:01
  there's
• 7:01
  a
• 7:01
  lot
• 7:01
  of
• 7:01
  advantages
• 7:02
  if
• 7:02
  you
• 7:02
  think
• 7:02
  about
• 7:02
  it.
• 7:02
  If
• 7:03
  the
• 7:03
  line's
• 7:03
  totally
• 7:03
  static
• 7:04
  and
• 7:04
  it's
• 7:04
  pointing
• 7:04
  straight
• 7:05
  down
• 7:05
  below
• 7:05
  you
• 7:05
  in
• 7:05
  the
• 7:05
  current,
• 7:06
  the
• 7:06
  line's
• 7:07
  already
• 7:07
  dead
• 7:07
  tight,
• 7:08
  solid
• 7:08
  takes
• 7:09
  is
• 7:09
  one
• 7:09
  fish
• 7:09
  to
• 7:09
  put
• 7:10
  its.
• 7:10
  You
• 7:10
  know,
• 7:10
  if
• 7:10
  a
• 7:11
  fish
• 7:11
  eats,
• 7:12
  the
• 7:13
  fish
• 7:13
  has
• 7:13
  already
• 7:13
  hooked
• 7:14
  itself.
• 7:14
  You
• 7:14
  didn't
• 7:14
  have
• 7:14
  to
• 7:15
  do
• 7:15
  anything.
• 7:15
  You're
• 7:15
  not
• 7:16
  even
• 7:16
  part
• 7:16
  of
• 7:16
  the
• 7:16
  equation.
• 7:17
  Basically,
• 7:17
  you
• 7:17
  do
• 7:18
  duct
• 7:18
  tape
• 7:18
  holding
• 7:18
  the
• 7:19
  rod
• 7:19
  in
• 7:19
  the
• 7:19
  river
• 7:19
  at
• 7:19
  that
• 7:20
  point,
• 7:20
  but
• 7:21
  the
• 7:21
  fish
• 7:21
  hooked
• 7:21
  itself.
• 7:22
  And
• 7:23
  that's
• 7:23
  what
• 7:23
  we
• 7:24
  mean
• 7:24
  kind
• 7:24
  of
• 7:24
  by
• 7:25
  there's.
• 7:25
  There's
• 7:25
  times
• 7:26
  where
• 7:26
  that
• 7:26
  usually
• 7:27
  is
• 7:27
  the
• 7:28
  high
• 7:28
  person
• 7:28
  on
• 7:29
  the
• 7:29
  river
• 7:29
  that
• 7:29
  day.
• 7:29
  I've
• 7:30
  seen
• 7:30
  that.
• 7:30
  I've
• 7:30
  seen
• 7:30
  that
• 7:31
  happen
• 7:31
  multiple
• 7:31
  times
• 7:32
  when
• 7:32
  it's
• 7:32
  early.
• 7:33
  Early
• 7:33
  on
• 7:34
  with
• 7:34
  new
• 7:34
  stockings
• 7:34
  on.
• 7:35
  DH
• 7:36
  and
• 7:36
  just
• 7:37
  because
• 7:37
  it's
• 7:37
  a
• 7:38
  egg
• 7:38
  pattern
• 7:38
  or
• 7:39
  a
• 7:39
  squirmy
• 7:39
  worm
• 7:39
  or
• 7:40
  whatever,
• 7:40
  it
• 7:40
  still
• 7:41
  is
• 7:41
  still
• 7:41
  going
• 7:41
  to
• 7:41
  be
• 7:41
  the
• 7:42
  high,
• 7:42
  even
• 7:42
  though
• 7:42
  it's
• 7:42
  sitting
• 7:43
  totally
• 7:43
  static
• 7:43
  in
• 7:43
  the
• 7:44
  water
• 7:44
  column.
• 7:45
  So
• 7:45
  I
• 7:45
  think
• 7:45
  that
• 7:45
  kind
• 7:45
  of
• 7:46
  puts
• 7:46
  it
• 7:46
  in
• 7:47
  perspective.
• 7:48
  Yeah.
• 7:48
  And
• 7:48
  so
• 7:48
  I
• 7:48
  would
• 7:48
  say,
• 7:49
  I
• 7:49
  guess
• 7:49
  a
• 7:49
  couple
• 7:49
  things.
• 7:50
  Right.
• 7:50
  I
• 7:50
  think
• 7:50
  the
• 7:50
  important
• 7:51
  thing
• 7:51
  is
• 7:51
  to
• 7:51
  have
• 7:51
  a
• 7:51
  process.
• 7:52
  It
• 7:52
  doesn't
• 7:52
  have
• 7:53
  to
• 7:53
  be
• 7:53
  my
• 7:53
  process
• 7:53
  or
• 7:54
  your
• 7:54
  process
• 7:56
  to
• 7:56
  kind
• 7:56
  of
• 7:56
  work
• 7:56
  through
• 7:57
  things.
• 7:57
  And
• 7:57
  then
• 7:57
  I
• 7:57
  guess
• 7:57
  a
• 7:57
  couple
• 7:58
  other
• 7:58
  things
• 7:58
  I
• 7:58
  would
• 7:58
  say,
• 7:58
  and
• 7:58
  I
• 7:59
  mean,
• 7:59
  I
• 7:59
  know
• 7:59
  you
• 7:59
  probably
• 7:59
  do
• 7:59
  this
• 8:00
  in
• 8:00
  the
• 8:00
  boat
• 8:00
  all
• 8:00
  the
• 8:01
  time,
• 8:01
  is,
• 8:01
  you
• 8:01
  know,
• 8:01
  if
• 8:01
  you're
• 8:01
  fishing
• 8:02
  with
• 8:02
  a
• 8:02
  buddy,
• 8:03
  don't
• 8:03
  fish
• 8:03
  the
• 8:04
  same
• 8:04
  flies
• 8:04
  the
• 8:04
  same
• 8:05
  way.
• 8:05
  Right.
• 8:05
  Try
• 8:05
  to
• 8:05
  kind
• 8:06
  of
• 8:06
  bracket
• 8:06
  in
• 8:06
  and
• 8:06
  figure
• 8:07
  out
• 8:07
  what's
• 8:07
  going
• 8:07
  on.
• 8:08
  And,
• 8:09
  you
• 8:09
  know,
• 8:09
  that's
• 8:09
  another
• 8:09
  way
• 8:10
  to
• 8:10
  kind
• 8:10
  of
• 8:10
  get
• 8:10
  to
• 8:10
  the
• 8:10
  right
• 8:11
  answer
• 8:11
  a
• 8:11
  little
• 8:11
  bit
• 8:11
  more
• 8:12
  quickly.
• 8:13
  That's
• 8:14
  right.
• 8:14
  That's
• 8:14
  what
• 8:14
  it's
• 8:14
  about.
• 8:15
  It's
• 8:15
  time
• 8:15
  just
• 8:15
  trying
• 8:15
  to
• 8:16
  crack
• 8:17
  the
• 8:17
  code
• 8:18
  a
• 8:19
  little
• 8:19
  bit
• 8:19
  quicker
• 8:19
  each
• 8:20
  time
• 8:20
  out
• 8:20
  the
• 8:20
  door.
• 8:21
  And
• 8:21
  then
• 8:22
  after
• 8:22
  a
• 8:22
  while,
• 8:23
  if
• 8:23
  it's
• 8:23
  too
• 8:24
  easy
• 8:24
  to
• 8:24
  crack,
• 8:24
  then
• 8:24
  you
• 8:25
  want
• 8:25
  to
• 8:25
  go
• 8:25
  somewhere
• 8:25
  where
• 8:25
  it's
• 8:26
  a
• 8:26
  little
• 8:26
  harder
• 8:26
  to
• 8:26
  crack.
• 8:27
  But
• 8:27
  yeah,
• 8:28
  it's
• 8:28
  always
• 8:28
  fun
• 8:28
  cracking
• 8:29
  that.
• 8:29
  It
• 8:29
  doesn't
• 8:30
  matter
• 8:31
  what
• 8:31
  type
• 8:31
  of
• 8:31
  water
• 8:31
  you're
• 8:32
  on
• 8:32
  doing
• 8:32
  that.
• 8:33
  It's.
• 8:33
  It's
• 8:33
  really
• 8:33
  the
• 8:34
  figuring
• 8:34
  out
• 8:34
  part
• 8:34
  that's
• 8:35
  the
• 8:35
  fun
• 8:35
  part
• 8:35
  about
• 8:35
  it.
• 8:36
  Yeah.
• 8:36
  And
• 8:36
  then
• 8:37
  I
• 8:37
  guess
• 8:37
  the
• 8:37
  other
• 8:37
  thing
• 8:37
  I
• 8:37
  would
• 8:38
  say
• 8:38
  is,
• 8:38
  you
• 8:38
  know,
• 8:38
  there.
• 8:38
  I
• 8:39
  mean,
• 8:39
  there
• 8:39
  just
• 8:39
  are
• 8:40
  differences
• 8:40
  between
• 8:40
  hatchery
• 8:41
  and
• 8:41
  wild
• 8:41
  fish.
• 8:42
  Right.
• 8:42
  And
• 8:42
  so,
• 8:43
  you
• 8:43
  know,
• 8:43
  hatchery
• 8:44
  fish
• 8:44
  are
• 8:44
  used
• 8:44
  to
• 8:44
  eating
• 8:45
  from
• 8:45
  above,
• 8:45
  basically,
• 8:46
  either,
• 8:46
  you
• 8:46
  know,
• 8:46
  from
• 8:47
  a
• 8:47
  machine
• 8:48
  or
• 8:48
  somebody
• 8:48
  going
• 8:48
  in
• 8:48
  and
• 8:49
  throwing
• 8:49
  pellets
• 8:50
  on
• 8:50
  top
• 8:50
  of
• 8:50
  the
• 8:50
  water.
• 8:51
  So,
• 8:51
  you
• 8:51
  know,
• 8:52
  they
• 8:52
  have
• 8:52
  a
• 8:52
  tendency
• 8:52
  to
• 8:52
  look.
• 8:53
  They
• 8:53
  have
• 8:53
  a
• 8:53
  tendency,
• 8:53
  right.
• 8:54
  To
• 8:54
  look
• 8:54
  up
• 8:54
  a
• 8:54
  little
• 8:54
  bit
• 8:54
  more.
• 8:56
  And,
• 8:56
  you
• 8:56
  know,
• 8:56
  that's
• 8:57
  another
• 8:57
  reason
• 8:57
  why
• 8:57
  a
• 8:58
  really
• 8:58
  big
• 8:58
  hare's
• 8:58
  ear
• 8:59
  works
• 8:59
  on
• 8:59
  freshly
• 8:59
  stocked
• 9:00
  hatchery
• 9:01
  fish.
• 9:03
  No,
• 9:03
  that's
• 9:03
  a
• 9:03
  good
• 9:04
  point.
• 9:04
  Yeah,
• 9:05
  I
• 9:05
  think
• 9:05
  they
• 9:05
  look
• 9:05
  up.
• 9:06
  Yeah,
• 9:07
  definitely.
• 9:07
  And
• 9:07
  it's.
• 9:08
  It's.
• 9:09
  Tell
• 9:09
  you,
• 9:09
  it's
• 9:09
  been
• 9:10
  nice
• 9:10
  up
• 9:10
  here
• 9:10
  having
• 9:11
  it
• 9:11
  turned
• 9:11
  mild
• 9:11
  again
• 9:12
  the
• 9:12
  last
• 9:12
  couple
• 9:12
  days
• 9:13
  because
• 9:14
  we
• 9:14
  were
• 9:14
  down
• 9:14
  this
• 9:15
  past
• 9:15
  week
• 9:15
  in
• 9:15
  the
• 9:15
  single
• 9:16
  digits
• 9:16
  and
• 9:18
  it's
• 9:18
  been
• 9:18
  really
• 9:18
  nice.
• 9:19
  I
• 9:19
  think
• 9:19
  we
• 9:19
  were
• 9:19
  up
• 9:19
  our
• 9:19
  50s
• 9:20
  today,
• 9:20
  had
• 9:20
  a
• 9:21
  little
• 9:21
  bit
• 9:21
  of
• 9:21
  rain.
• 9:22
  And
• 9:23
  just
• 9:23
  by
• 9:23
  being
• 9:23
  a
• 9:23
  little
• 9:24
  bit
• 9:24
  more
• 9:24
  mild,
• 9:24
  of
• 9:24
  course,
• 9:24
  it
• 9:25
  makes
• 9:25
  it
• 9:25
  a
• 9:25
  lot
• 9:25
  easier
• 9:25
  to
• 9:26
  think.
• 9:27
  I
• 9:27
  think
• 9:27
  I'm
• 9:27
  going
• 9:27
  to
• 9:27
  saddle
• 9:28
  up
• 9:28
  and
• 9:28
  go,
• 9:28
  you
• 9:28
  know.
• 9:30
  Yeah,
• 9:30
  absolutely.
• 9:31
  And
• 9:31
  I
• 9:31
  would
• 9:31
  say
• 9:31
  too,
• 9:32
  I
• 9:32
  did
• 9:32
  want
• 9:32
  to
• 9:32
  give
• 9:32
  folks,
• 9:33
  I
• 9:33
  saw
• 9:33
  an
• 9:33
  email
• 9:34
  over
• 9:35
  the
• 9:35
  weekend
• 9:35
  from
• 9:37
  the
• 9:37
  North
• 9:37
  Carolina
• 9:37
  wildlife
• 9:38
  resource
• 9:38
  Commission
• 9:39
  on
• 9:39
  the
• 9:39
  situation
• 9:40
  with
• 9:40
  the
• 9:41
  hatcheries
• 9:41
  and
• 9:41
  delayed
• 9:42
  harvest
• 9:42
  and
• 9:42
  I
• 9:42
  guess,
• 9:43
  you
• 9:43
  know,
• 9:43
  the
• 9:44
  hatchery.
• 9:44
  And
• 9:44
  I'll
• 9:45
  just
• 9:45
  tell
• 9:45
  you
• 9:45
  where
• 9:45
  it
• 9:45
  is
• 9:46
  because
• 9:46
  it's
• 9:46
  easier
• 9:46
  to
• 9:46
  try
• 9:46
  to
• 9:47
  do
• 9:47
  that
• 9:47
  than
• 9:47
  to
• 9:47
  remember
• 9:48
  for
• 9:48
  folks
• 9:48
  to
• 9:48
  remember
• 9:48
  the
• 9:49
  name
• 9:49
  and
• 9:49
  then
• 9:49
  remember
• 9:49
  where
• 9:50
  it
• 9:50
  is.
• 9:51
  Originally,
• 9:52
  the
• 9:52
  plan
• 9:53
  was
• 9:53
  the
• 9:53
  hatchery
• 9:53
  in
• 9:54
  Pisgah
• 9:54
  near
• 9:54
  Davidson
• 9:55
  River
• 9:55
  Outfitters
• 9:55
  was
• 9:56
  going
• 9:56
  to
• 9:56
  get
• 9:56
  shut
• 9:56
  down
• 9:56
  for
• 9:57
  multiple
• 9:57
  years
• 9:58
  and
• 9:59
  get
• 9:59
  renovated
• 10:00
  and
• 10:00
  remodeled.
• 10:00
  And
• 10:00
  so
• 10:01
  that
• 10:01
  was
• 10:01
  going
• 10:01
  to
• 10:01
  have
• 10:01
  an
• 10:01
  impact
• 10:02
  on
• 10:02
  stockings.
• 10:03
  And
• 10:03
  as
• 10:03
  a
• 10:04
  result
• 10:04
  of
• 10:04
  hurricane
• 10:04
  Helene,
• 10:06
  there
• 10:06
  was
• 10:06
  severe
• 10:07
  damage
• 10:08
  to
• 10:08
  the
• 10:09
  Armstrong
• 10:09
  hatchery
• 10:10
  and
• 10:10
  they
• 10:10
  lost
• 10:10
  all
• 10:10
  of
• 10:10
  their
• 10:11
  fish.
• 10:11
  And
• 10:11
  so
• 10:11
  that
• 10:12
  plan
• 10:13
  to
• 10:13
  renovate
• 10:14
  the
• 10:14
  hatchery
• 10:14
  in
• 10:15
  Pisgah
• 10:15
  has
• 10:15
  been
• 10:15
  delayed.
• 10:16
  And
• 10:16
  they've
• 10:16
  actually
• 10:16
  been
• 10:17
  ramping
• 10:17
  up
• 10:17
  fish
• 10:18
  production
• 10:19
  so
• 10:19
  that
• 10:19
  they
• 10:19
  can
• 10:19
  stock
• 10:20
  from
• 10:20
  that
• 10:21
  hatchery.
• 10:22
  And
• 10:23
  what
• 10:23
  the
• 10:23
  state
• 10:23
  said
• 10:24
  is
• 10:24
  watch
• 10:24
  the
• 10:24
  website,
• 10:26
  the
• 10:26
  hatchery
• 10:27
  website
• 10:27
  page
• 10:28
  on
• 10:28
  the
• 10:29
  North
• 10:29
  Carolina
• 10:29
  Wildlife
• 10:29
  Resources
• 10:30
  source
• 10:30
  commission
• 10:30
  page,
• 10:30
  and
• 10:31
  they'll
• 10:31
  give
• 10:31
  us
• 10:31
  more
• 10:31
  current
• 10:32
  information.
• 10:32
  But
• 10:32
  that's
• 10:32
  currently
• 10:33
  kind
• 10:34
  of
• 10:34
  the
• 10:34
  state
• 10:34
  of
• 10:34
  play.
• 10:35
  And,
• 10:36
  you
• 10:36
  know,
• 10:36
  you
• 10:36
  can
• 10:36
  watch.
• 10:36
  And
• 10:37
  they'll
• 10:37
  also
• 10:37
  tell
• 10:37
  you
• 10:37
  where
• 10:37
  they're
• 10:38
  stocking.
• 10:38
  Although
• 10:38
  I
• 10:38
  think
• 10:39
  most
• 10:39
  fly
• 10:39
  shops
• 10:39
  in
• 10:39
  western
• 10:40
  North
• 10:40
  Carolina
• 10:40
  have
• 10:40
  been
• 10:40
  doing
• 10:41
  a
• 10:41
  pretty
• 10:41
  good
• 10:41
  job
• 10:41
  of
• 10:41
  putting
• 10:42
  that
• 10:42
  chart
• 10:42
  out
• 10:42
  for
• 10:42
  themselves.
• 10:44
  That's
• 10:45
  right.
• 10:45
  And
• 10:46
  there's
• 10:46
  a
• 10:46
  lot
• 10:46
  of
• 10:46
  good.
• 10:47
  They
• 10:47
  put
• 10:47
  a
• 10:47
  lot
• 10:47
  of
• 10:48
  good
• 10:48
  brood
• 10:48
  fish
• 10:48
  in,
• 10:49
  at
• 10:49
  least
• 10:50
  up.
• 10:50
  Up
• 10:50
  on
• 10:50
  the
• 10:50
  upper
• 10:52
  the
• 10:52
  Tucka
• 10:53
  CG
• 10:53
  through
• 10:53
  Bryson,
• 10:53
  the
• 10:54
  tuck
• 10:54
  of
• 10:54
  CG
• 10:54
  up
• 10:54
  on
• 10:55
  Webster
• 10:56
  to
• 10:56
  late
• 10:56
  harvest
• 10:57
  a
• 10:57
  lot
• 10:57
  of
• 10:57
  the
• 10:57
  brood
• 10:58
  fish.
• 10:58
  What
• 10:58
  people
• 10:58
  don't
• 10:58
  realize
• 10:59
  is
• 10:59
  when
• 10:59
  those
• 10:59
  fish
• 10:59
  get
• 11:00
  old
• 11:00
  and
• 11:00
  they're
• 11:00
  starting
• 11:00
  to
• 11:00
  be
• 11:02
  basically
• 11:02
  at
• 11:02
  the
• 11:02
  end
• 11:03
  of
• 11:03
  their
• 11:03
  life
• 11:03
  cycle
• 11:04
  and
• 11:04
  they
• 11:04
  want
• 11:04
  to
• 11:04
  get
• 11:05
  rid
• 11:05
  of
• 11:05
  them
• 11:05
  because
• 11:05
  they
• 11:05
  don't
• 11:05
  want
• 11:05
  to
• 11:06
  feed
• 11:06
  them
• 11:06
  all
• 11:06
  through
• 11:06
  the
• 11:06
  winter.
• 11:07
  So
• 11:07
  they
• 11:07
  really
• 11:07
  put
• 11:07
  a
• 11:07
  lot
• 11:08
  of
• 11:08
  quality
• 11:08
  brood
• 11:09
  fish
• 11:09
  in
• 11:09
  this
• 11:09
  last
• 11:10
  one
• 11:10
  in
• 11:10
  December.
• 11:11
  So
• 11:11
  there's
• 11:11
  a
• 11:11
  lot
• 11:11
  of
• 11:12
  big
• 11:12
  fish.
• 11:12
  I
• 11:12
  said,
• 11:13
  I
• 11:13
  mean
• 11:13
  one
• 11:14
  pool
• 11:14
  we
• 11:14
  were
• 11:15
  in
• 11:15
  the
• 11:15
  other
• 11:15
  day,
• 11:15
  we
• 11:15
  saw
• 11:15
  four
• 11:16
  fish
• 11:17
  on
• 11:17
  a
• 11:18
  trip
• 11:18
  with
• 11:18
  some
• 11:18
  folks
• 11:18
  from
• 11:19
  Augusta.
• 11:19
  But
• 11:20
  just
• 11:20
  in
• 11:20
  one
• 11:20
  spot
• 11:21
  we
• 11:21
  ended
• 11:21
  up,
• 11:22
  they
• 11:22
  ended
• 11:22
  up
• 11:23
  having
• 11:23
  like
• 11:23
  four
• 11:23
  that
• 11:24
  were
• 11:24
  20,
• 11:24
  22
• 11:24
  inch
• 11:25
  fish
• 11:26
  in
• 11:26
  the
• 11:26
  one
• 11:27
  little
• 11:27
  area.
• 11:27
  So,
• 11:28
  so
• 11:28
  I'm,
• 11:28
  I'm
• 11:28
  positive
• 11:29
  they
• 11:29
  just
• 11:29
  put
• 11:29
  a
• 11:29
  lot
• 11:29
  of
• 11:30
  the,
• 11:30
  the
• 11:30
  brood
• 11:31
  fish
• 11:31
  for
• 11:31
  the
• 11:31
  year
• 11:32
  and
• 11:32
  those
• 11:32
  didn't
• 11:32
  really
• 11:32
  happen
• 11:33
  the
• 11:33
  first
• 11:33
  go
• 11:33
  around
• 11:34
  in
• 11:35
  November
• 11:35
  it
• 11:35
  seemed
• 11:36
  like
• 11:36
  down
• 11:36
  here
• 11:36
  in
• 11:36
  Bryson
• 11:37
  anyway
• 11:37
  and
• 11:37
  up
• 11:37
  on
• 11:37
  the
• 11:38
  upper.
• 11:38
  So
• 11:39
  Upper
• 11:39
  Nantahala.
• 11:40
  So.
• 11:40
  So
• 11:40
  I'm
• 11:40
  sure
• 11:41
  there's
• 11:41
  a
• 11:41
  lot
• 11:41
  better
• 11:41
  quality
• 11:42
  stuff
• 11:42
  in
• 11:42
  there
• 11:42
  now.
• 11:42
  And
• 11:42
  they
• 11:43
  won't
• 11:43
  do
• 11:43
  it
• 11:43
  again
• 11:43
  until
• 11:44
  I
• 11:45
  think
• 11:45
  it's
• 11:46
  March
• 11:47
  is
• 11:47
  when
• 11:47
  they'll
• 11:47
  start
• 11:47
  back
• 11:48
  because
• 11:48
  it'll
• 11:48
  be
• 11:48
  shut
• 11:48
  down.
• 11:49
  January,
• 11:49
  February,
• 11:49
  the
• 11:50
  program
• 11:50
  will
• 11:50
  still
• 11:50
  be
• 11:50
  open.
• 11:51
  There
• 11:52
  won't
• 11:52
  be
• 11:52
  any
• 11:52
  new
• 11:52
  fish
• 11:53
  until,
• 11:53
  till
• 11:53
  March
• 11:54
  again.
• 11:54
  So.
• 11:55
  But
• 11:55
  yeah,
• 11:55
  it's,
• 11:56
  it's,
• 11:56
  it's
• 11:56
  a
• 11:56
  healthy,
• 11:57
  it's
• 11:57
  definitely
• 11:57
  a
• 11:58
  healthy
• 11:59
  environment
• 12:00
  right
• 12:00
  now
• 12:00
  to
• 12:00
  be
• 12:00
  out
• 12:00
  there
• 12:01
  playing,
• 12:01
  playing
• 12:01
  with
• 12:02
  the
• 12:02
  technique.
• 12:02
  Playing
• 12:02
  with
• 12:03
  your
• 12:03
  favorite
• 12:03
  technique,
• 12:04
  whatever
• 12:04
  that
• 12:04
  is.
• 12:06
  Yeah.
• 12:06
  And
• 12:06
  I
• 12:06
  would
• 12:06
  say
• 12:07
  too,
• 12:07
  as
• 12:07
  I've
• 12:07
  been
• 12:07
  saying,
• 12:08
  you
• 12:08
  know,
• 12:08
  every
• 12:09
  fishing
• 12:09
  report
• 12:09
  that
• 12:09
  I've
• 12:10
  been
• 12:10
  doing
• 12:10
  with
• 12:10
  all
• 12:10
  my
• 12:10
  folks,
• 12:11
  kind
• 12:11
  of
• 12:11
  in
• 12:11
  western
• 12:11
  North
• 12:12
  Carolina,
• 12:12
  east
• 12:12
  Tennessee,
• 12:13
  southwest
• 12:13
  Virginia,
• 12:14
  you
• 12:14
  know,
• 12:15
  virtually
• 12:16
  every
• 12:16
  part
• 12:17
  of
• 12:17
  all
• 12:17
  of
• 12:17
  those
• 12:18
  regions,
• 12:18
  they're
• 12:19
  open
• 12:19
  and
• 12:19
  easily
• 12:20
  accessible.
• 12:20
  And
• 12:21
  so,
• 12:21
  you
• 12:21
  know,
• 12:22
  all
• 12:22
  those
• 12:23
  communities
• 12:23
  lost
• 12:23
  a
• 12:23
  ton
• 12:24
  of
• 12:24
  tourism
• 12:24
  money
• 12:24
  in
• 12:25
  October.
• 12:25
  It's
• 12:26
  a
• 12:26
  huge
• 12:26
  part
• 12:26
  of
• 12:27
  the
• 12:27
  driver.
• 12:27
  It's
• 12:27
  kind
• 12:27
  of
• 12:27
  like
• 12:28
  how
• 12:28
  retailers
• 12:28
  get
• 12:28
  all
• 12:29
  their
• 12:29
  money
• 12:29
  right
• 12:29
  for
• 12:29
  Christmas
• 12:30
  shopping,
• 12:31
  you
• 12:31
  know,
• 12:31
  so
• 12:32
  try
• 12:32
  to,
• 12:32
  if
• 12:32
  you
• 12:32
  can,
• 12:33
  over
• 12:33
  the
• 12:33
  holidays
• 12:33
  to
• 12:34
  get
• 12:34
  into
• 12:34
  those
• 12:34
  communities
• 12:35
  and
• 12:35
  spend
• 12:35
  some
• 12:35
  money
• 12:36
  or
• 12:36
  buy
• 12:36
  gift
• 12:37
  certificates
• 12:37
  or
• 12:38
  gift
• 12:38
  cards
• 12:39
  because
• 12:39
  it's
• 12:39
  going
• 12:39
  to
• 12:39
  be
• 12:39
  a
• 12:40
  multi
• 12:40
  year
• 12:42
  journey
• 12:42
  for
• 12:42
  all
• 12:43
  those
• 12:43
  folks
• 12:43
  to
• 12:43
  kind
• 12:43
  of
• 12:43
  get
• 12:43
  back
• 12:44
  to
• 12:44
  where
• 12:44
  they
• 12:44
  were
• 12:44
  before
• 12:44
  hurling
• 12:45
  hit.
• 12:45
  And
• 12:47
  you
• 12:47
  know
• 12:47
  folks,
• 12:47
  as
• 12:48
  I
• 12:48
  always
• 12:48
  say
• 12:48
  in
• 12:48
  February
• 12:49
  when
• 12:49
  it's
• 12:49
  cold
• 12:49
  and
• 12:50
  miserable,
• 12:50
  you're
• 12:50
  going
• 12:50
  to
• 12:50
  wish
• 12:50
  you
• 12:50
  were
• 12:51
  out
• 12:51
  fishing
• 12:51
  now.
• 12:51
  And
• 12:52
  you
• 12:52
  know,
• 12:52
  Mac,
• 12:53
  this
• 12:53
  is
• 12:53
  the
• 12:54
  last
• 12:54
  time
• 12:54
  we'll
• 12:54
  talk
• 12:54
  until
• 12:55
  2025.
• 12:55
  So
• 12:56
  we
• 12:56
  need
• 12:56
  to
• 12:56
  wish
• 12:56
  everybody
• 12:56
  a
• 12:57
  Merry
• 12:57
  Christmas
• 12:58
  and
• 12:58
  a
• 12:58
  happy
• 12:58
  New
• 12:59
  Year.
• 12:59
  Tight
• 12:59
  lines.
• 13:00
  Merry
• 13:00
  Christmas
• 13:01
  and
• 13:01
  a
• 13:01
  happy
• 13:01
  New
• 13:01
  Year,
• 13:01
  everybody.
• 13:02
  Same
• 13:02
  to
• 13:02
  you,
• 13:03
  Matt.
• 13:04
  Yeah,
• 13:04
  tight
• 13:05
  lines
• 13:05
  and
• 13:05
  happy
• 13:06
  New
• 13:06
  Year
• 13:06
  to
• 13:06
  everybody
• 13:07
  as
• 13:07
  well.
• 13:08
  Take
• 13:09
  care
• 13:09
  everybody.