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- 0:00Speaker 1: I'm still I'm still I'm I'm I'm trying to, uh
- 0:07Speaker 1: to just process this, this murder, this murder of Charlie
- 0:12Speaker 1: Kirk today, it's uh, it's it's weighing on me. I
- 0:19Speaker 1: gotta be honest with you, so you folks may be
- 0:22Speaker 1: my therapeutic sounding board for the next hour. For all
- 0:25Speaker 1: I know, A two me WTVN is the number or
- 0:28Speaker 1: eight hundred sixt ten wtv And I got Alex Stone
- 0:31Speaker 1: from ABC News coming up, like, get mad in because
- 0:33Speaker 1: he waited through the break. Matt, you're on sixthen WTVN.
- 0:36Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, Chuck, you know, obviously what happened today is
- 0:42Speaker 2: just an incomprehensible tragedy, and you know, thinking about Charlie's
- 0:50Speaker 2: wife and Charlie's kids, you know, just absolutely breaks my heart.
- 0:55Speaker 3: There was a caller earlier though, that she kind of
- 0:59Speaker 3: seemed almost like, you know, well, what are where, what
- 1:03Speaker 3: do we do? Where do we go from here? And
- 1:06Speaker 3: what I would say to everybody on the on the
- 1:08Speaker 3: on the radio today who's listening, is you know, truths
- 1:13Speaker 3: will always prevail and the light will always overcome the darkness,
- 1:19Speaker 3: and you know, when you go back and you think
- 1:21Speaker 3: about it, and you know there was you know, William F.
- 1:24Speaker 3: Buckley with National Review as a conservative voice in this country.
- 1:28Speaker 3: And then you know there was there was you know,
- 1:30Speaker 3: Walter Williams and Thomas soul And you know, when Rush
- 1:35Speaker 3: passed away, we all thought, oh, man, who's going to
- 1:37Speaker 3: replace Rush? And now you know, Buck Sexton and Klay
- 1:41Speaker 3: Travis have picked up that man on. They're doing an
- 1:43Speaker 3: amazing job. You know, what happened to Charlotte today was
- 1:49Speaker 3: was a tragedy. But there will be new voices that
- 1:53Speaker 3: come up and and and share the truth of conservatism
- 1:59Speaker 3: and and and share the truth of what they believe in.
- 2:03Speaker 3: You know, Charlie was a professing Christian. He believed in
- 2:07Speaker 3: He believed in Christ as his savior. He believed in
- 2:10Speaker 3: God as the creator and the Holy Spirit is sustaining us.
- 2:13Speaker 3: And that may have got him murdered for anything, you know,
- 2:20Speaker 3: versus his opinion on gun rights or abortion or welfare
- 2:26Speaker 3: or anything like that. It may have been his professor
- 2:29Speaker 3: in Christianity. But there will we should always have hope.
- 2:32Speaker 3: There will always be somebody that comes to the front
- 2:35Speaker 3: of the line of battle that will stand up and
- 2:38Speaker 3: will speak the truth and will share the truth and
- 2:42Speaker 3: that that's what we have to believe in.
- 2:44Speaker 1: I appreciate you, Matt, Thank you very much, buddy. Keep
- 2:46Speaker 1: your head up. It's it's a hard day for many
- 2:50Speaker 1: of us because this guy, I mean, you know, he's
- 2:55Speaker 1: twenty five, thirty years younger than me, but I still
- 2:57Speaker 1: looked up to him his ability to communicate with a crowd,
- 2:59Speaker 1: not to force anything down anyone's throat, but to get
- 3:01Speaker 1: them to think, to converse, to interact. And I mean
- 3:07Speaker 1: I thought he was He was perceived as being one
- 3:09Speaker 1: of the good guys, even for those that disagreed with him.
- 3:12Speaker 1: And this is not the way I expected his story
- 3:14Speaker 1: to end. Alex over Maybec News is on the job
- 3:18Speaker 1: out there. We know that it happened. We know that
- 3:22Speaker 1: we've lost Charlie Kirk, Alex. Do we know anything else?
- 3:25Speaker 1: Do we know who a suspect is? At this point, we.
- 3:27Speaker 4: Don't know, because yeah, Chuck, they don't have one at
- 3:29Speaker 4: this point. They initially thought that they did, and we're
- 3:32Speaker 4: gonna get up there. This is a sound inside the
- 3:34Speaker 4: room right now where they're about to come out any
- 3:36Speaker 4: moment and say what they do know and to give
- 3:39Speaker 4: us more details. But initially they thought they had the
- 3:42Speaker 4: shooter in custody. You probably saw the social video of
- 3:46Speaker 4: an older gentleman who they had kind of bent over
- 3:49Speaker 4: and hands behind his back that they were bringing out. Yes,
- 3:51Speaker 4: but now they're indicating that he had nothing to do
- 3:54Speaker 4: with it and that that was not the shooter. It
- 3:56Speaker 4: looks like the wrong place, wrong time of where he was,
- 3:59Speaker 4: and the thought that he was a shooter, but he's not.
- 4:02Speaker 4: It's pretty clear from all of the experts we've been
- 4:05Speaker 4: talking to of where the shot came from and the
- 4:08Speaker 4: caliber of it and the sound and the way it
- 4:11Speaker 4: came in. The shooter had the advantage of elevation on
- 4:15Speaker 4: a rooftop or up on the There was a balcony
- 4:18Speaker 4: kind of behind the crowd where the crowd was standing.
- 4:20Speaker 4: But nobody apparently that we know of yet saw the shooter,
- 4:24Speaker 4: so it may have been hiding on a rooftop or
- 4:28Speaker 4: hiding behind something with that elevation. But I mean, it
- 4:31Speaker 4: was panic when it was when that one shot came out.
- 4:34Speaker 4: These women were there, just.
- 4:35Speaker 5: Everyone got down.
- 4:36Speaker 4: Everyone was so scared.
- 4:37Speaker 1: I heard a loud bang, which I figured a shot
- 4:40Speaker 1: would be a little bit louder, Just one shot straight
- 4:42Speaker 1: in Charlie Kirk.
- 4:44Speaker 4: And he was on this Proved Me Wrong tour. He
- 4:47Speaker 4: was going to go to other places in Utah and
- 4:49Speaker 4: Colorado and Minneapolis and Virginia and Turning Point. USA. Had
- 4:52Speaker 4: been saying that this was going to be a huge turnout.
- 4:56Speaker 4: You know, they had seen the America come back to Her,
- 4:57Speaker 4: American come Back to Her earlier in the year that
- 5:00Speaker 4: had done very well on university campus. Says they thought
- 5:03Speaker 4: that this was gonna be the same thing. And it
- 5:05Speaker 4: was today with the crowd that was there, and that
- 5:08Speaker 4: it was a large crowd, and it was Q and A.
- 5:12Speaker 4: He was taking questions, he was answering about transgender issues
- 5:15Speaker 4: in that moment, and then the one shot right into
- 5:18Speaker 4: what looked like his chest, but those there say into
- 5:21Speaker 4: his neck. But it was pretty much fatal in that moment.
- 5:24Speaker 1: It was. And I observed the video. I did not
- 5:27Speaker 1: have audio on here in the studio. I observed the video.
- 5:29Speaker 1: He looked as if any exchange he might have been
- 5:32Speaker 1: in was not confrontational at all. It was his typical
- 5:36Speaker 1: charming Charlie out there making a point. He seemed to
- 5:39Speaker 1: be in good form and good spirits. And then I
- 5:43Speaker 1: saw him reach up to the side of his head
- 5:46Speaker 1: there by his jawbone, and then he was gone, yeah,
- 5:49Speaker 1: and it's in some way, Alex, believe it or not.
- 5:53Speaker 1: I think it might have been easier to take if
- 5:55Speaker 1: he was screaming back and forth with some rabid person
- 5:58Speaker 1: in the audience and they pulled out a gun, it
- 5:59Speaker 1: would have least made sense.
- 6:02Speaker 4: Yeah, from the looks of it, it looks like this
- 6:04Speaker 4: was planned. You know, that this was not and we
- 6:06Speaker 4: understand from those who were in the crowd that it
- 6:08Speaker 4: was probably sixty to seventy percent supporters and then twenty
- 6:12Speaker 4: thirty forty percent who were opponents of his But this
- 6:15Speaker 4: wasn't in the moment. This seems like this shooter had
- 6:18Speaker 4: a you know, some kind of rifle, had the advantage
- 6:23Speaker 4: of altitude, of being up high, of more of a
- 6:27Speaker 4: a single bullet assassination. Really, that this was not just
- 6:31Speaker 4: in the moment angry decided to fire a shot. That
- 6:35Speaker 4: this seems like something that was much more planned than that.
- 6:37Speaker 4: So even you know, if and those who were there
- 6:40Speaker 4: said they were surprised that they were not checked for
- 6:42Speaker 4: weapons going into it, that it was just kind of
- 6:44Speaker 4: everybody could hang out on the campus and listen to
- 6:46Speaker 4: him talk. But that probably wouldn't have made a difference,
- 6:48Speaker 4: because it doesn't seem like that this was just somebody
- 6:50Speaker 4: in the crowd who in that moment pulled out a gun,
- 6:52Speaker 4: that it would appear that this was something much more planned,
- 6:55Speaker 4: and that they were somewhere but not in the crowd itself.
- 7:00Speaker 1: Right there. I know you have your hands full and
- 7:01Speaker 1: the schedule to keep. We'll probably talk tomorrow, Alex Stone,
- 7:04Speaker 1: ABC News. Thank you for being there when we need you, buddy,
- 7:06Speaker 1: you got it.
- 7:07Speaker 2: Thanks.
- 7:07Speaker 1: What about the fifteen minutes past the hour? Now? Eight
- 7:09Speaker 1: two one, nine eighty six is the number eight one
- 7:12Speaker 1: WTV And I just Zach and I have been talking
- 7:17Speaker 1: off the air a lot, and I'll be honest with you.
- 7:21Speaker 1: I see this. This isn't like a right wing thing.
- 7:25Speaker 1: I'm not looking at him as one right wing guy
- 7:27Speaker 1: to another, or one broadcast guide to another. I'm looking
- 7:32Speaker 1: at him as you know, his dad, as as husband,
- 7:36Speaker 1: as you know in my case, dad, the grandkids. And
- 7:40Speaker 1: I saw one person say thankfully his his child was
- 7:44Speaker 1: only two years old. I'll tell you what my two
- 7:46Speaker 1: year old granddaughter this morning, she said time for bye bye,
- 7:50Speaker 1: love you, Paul, Paul hugging kiss don't tell me the
- 7:57Speaker 1: child's only two. Don't tell me about that child only
- 8:06Speaker 1: being too, and he'll never hold him again, and they'll
- 8:15Speaker 1: never give him aug and kiss again. Because he dared
- 8:23Speaker 1: to have an opinion that somebody didn't want him to have.
- 8:25Speaker 1: He dared to articulate thought somebody didn't want him to share.
- 8:28Speaker 1: He dared to get people to think and opened their
- 8:32Speaker 1: minds to something other than whatever they'd been programmed with.
- 8:40Speaker 1: He wasn't rude, He wasn't a nasty spirited person. He
- 8:44Speaker 1: went to these college campuses and he talked and he said,
- 8:49Speaker 1: here's my point of view, and he invited those who
- 8:51Speaker 1: disagreed up to the microphone and he let them talk,
- 8:56Speaker 1: and he had the audacity to then ask them questions.
- 9:00Speaker 1: I was just watching some videos yesterday a student identifying
- 9:04Speaker 1: as transs I guess gender. I never know whether to
- 9:09Speaker 1: say trans sexual, transgen. I don't know. That's not disrespect,
- 9:13Speaker 1: that's just ignorance on my part. I don't know what
- 9:15Speaker 1: I'm supposed to call. But the guy or the person was,
- 9:20Speaker 1: you know, it was obviously a male person wearing a
- 9:22Speaker 1: wig and wearing a dress and speaking with what he
- 9:25Speaker 1: thought was an ef feminine way, and Charlie allowed him to,
- 9:31Speaker 1: you know, talk about everything that made him a woman.
- 9:35Speaker 1: And he asked him, have you had any surgeries? And
- 9:40Speaker 1: this person said, no, I haven't had surgeries, but I
- 9:42Speaker 1: still feel like a woman, So you had no surgeries.
- 9:45Speaker 1: The extent of your dedication to this is that you
- 9:47Speaker 1: wear clothes that are normally reserved for women, and you
- 9:51Speaker 1: speak in a funny voice that you think sounds like
- 9:53Speaker 1: a woman, and you call yourself a woman. That is
- 9:57Speaker 1: your dedication to being a trans person. Is that right?
- 10:00Speaker 1: And the guy said, well, I don't need any more
- 10:02Speaker 1: than that, and Charlie asking, and then I will ask you,
- 10:05Speaker 1: with all due respect, if I put on a brown makeup,
- 10:07Speaker 1: am I a black man? It's a valid argument. This
- 10:18Speaker 1: person's had no physical alterations. They're just wearing the clothes
- 10:23Speaker 1: and claiming the title. But it started a conversation with
- 10:30Speaker 1: this person that actually ended in I'll have to think
- 10:35Speaker 1: about that. Not I hate you, I want you, dad,
- 10:40Speaker 1: I'll have to think about that. That's the way this
- 10:45Speaker 1: thing works for me. This is all I try to
- 10:46Speaker 1: get you to do is think, talk, Just don't swallow
- 10:50Speaker 1: everything hole that's thrown at you. You're not a seal
- 10:53Speaker 1: for goodness sake. Think, think everything through things, always ask
- 11:04Speaker 1: for more. There's no such thing as too much information.
- 11:11Speaker 1: That's the way I've tried to be and that's what
- 11:13Speaker 1: I saw in him, and he was he was someone
- 11:17Speaker 1: I was proud of, even though I never knew him anyway.
- 11:22Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm trying my best not to let this
- 11:25Speaker 1: affect how I sound to you tonight, but I am
- 11:30Speaker 1: legitimately kind of just just shaken up by the fact
- 11:35Speaker 1: that this is what we have become. We disagree with you,
- 11:39Speaker 1: therefore we will kill you. And I'll be damned if
- 11:43Speaker 1: somebody out there is not going to make an excuse
- 11:45Speaker 1: for whenever they catch this person, they will start making excuses.
- 11:49Speaker 1: They were already online yesterday politicians elected officials making excuses
- 11:54Speaker 1: for the guy that killed the woman on the train
- 11:56Speaker 1: in Charlotte. Well, what we have to understand was he
- 12:00Speaker 1: was in pain, but she's dead. Man. We are in
- 12:09Speaker 1: bizarre world. A TWOTV and is a number. Let's get
- 12:12Speaker 1: a few in here. Mark, you're on sixth WTV.
- 12:14Speaker 5: And good evening. I wanted to reach out and mention
- 12:20Speaker 5: that Charlie Kirk was in Columbus August twenty fifth and
- 12:25Speaker 5: spoke at the Lincoln Reagan Dinner of Delaware County. He
- 12:30Speaker 5: spoke at the Hilton up at Polari, and anybody who
- 12:35Speaker 5: got to be there and got to listen to Charlie,
- 12:41Speaker 5: it was quite amazing. What an impressive characters, such a
- 12:47Speaker 5: heart for our young citizens, unbelievably spoke of of just
- 12:55Speaker 5: how challenging everything is for them. He was spoke of
- 13:00Speaker 5: his love for the Lord, and he was just so dynamic.
- 13:04Speaker 5: He was just somebody who when you listened to, he
- 13:08Speaker 5: just drawed you in. And it was a wonderful night.
- 13:13Speaker 5: And I just wanted to make sure that anybody that
- 13:18Speaker 5: was there was just take him away and just over
- 13:21Speaker 5: the top impressed with this man.
- 13:23Speaker 1: Yeah, his ability to connect those young people with something special,
- 13:26Speaker 1: that's probably the highest praise I can give him. I
- 13:28Speaker 1: met a lot of the TPUSA kids during the last election,
- 13:31Speaker 1: college kids that were out here work in the Trump campaign,
- 13:34Speaker 1: and they were an impressive group of youngsters. His influence
- 13:37Speaker 1: over them, his testament to who and what he was