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Jags Drive Time: Tuesday, March 22 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Drive John with Ashlyn John Osan Bryan Sex.
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Speaker 1: Jags Drive starts right now. You know, anytime you get
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Speaker 1: a chance to play for a head coach that you
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Speaker 1: know has won a Super Bowl and has been there
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Speaker 1: and knows what it takes, uh, that's definitely enticing because
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Speaker 1: like I mentioned, uh, he knows what it takes to
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Speaker 1: get there, and you know he's gonna put us in
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Speaker 1: the best position and coaches to get to that point
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Speaker 1: because that's our ultimate goal. We're gonna have to work
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Speaker 1: towards that and you know we all know that, but uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, having him, um, you know being our head
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Speaker 1: coach was definitely a big factor. And just you know
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Speaker 1: being here, being able to play here last year and
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Speaker 1: just seeing the amount of potential that's on this roster
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Speaker 1: and just knowing that, you know, there's a few key
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Speaker 1: pieces away from you know, being able to build something special.
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Speaker 1: Coach Peterson a major draw. And free agency, the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: signing as of now, seven free agents and we are
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Speaker 1: a week off the massive overhaul I guess you could
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Speaker 1: say of the free agent frenzy, but it is not
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Speaker 1: done yet, at least reports coming that there are still
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Speaker 1: players visiting Jacksonville as of now. Welcome in the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: Drive time. Ashland Sullivan, Brian Sexton, and John Os. You're
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Speaker 1: here with you on a Tuesday morning, and Brian, you
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Speaker 1: made a good point yesterday on I know and you
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Speaker 1: do that sometimes, so I wanted to bring it up
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Speaker 1: right good point that you were asked in public, are
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Speaker 1: you excited about this free agent class? And I think
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Speaker 1: it's important to note, yes, there's excitement, there's optimism, but
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Speaker 1: you also don't want to sound like a broken record,
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Speaker 1: because every offseason you're optimistic, you're excited, and we'll get that.
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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm expressing what I think a lot of
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Speaker 1: the fans want. They're they want to be excited about
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Speaker 1: the guys, and when you listen to them, there you
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Speaker 1: feel excited about the guys. But free agency, and John,
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Speaker 1: we've said this for years, and you in particular have
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Speaker 1: beat this drum. It's a crapshoot. You're going to overpay.
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Speaker 1: Whether a guy fits your system or not, whether he
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Speaker 1: can perform as well as he did in his last
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Speaker 1: stop or not, those are all things to be determined.
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Speaker 1: It seems like they have gotten great value in terms
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Speaker 1: of players that fit and people that work in the
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Speaker 1: locker room. Overpay, Yes, you overpay. That's just the game
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Speaker 1: that we play. Um, I don't want people to not
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Speaker 1: be excited about this football team. The reason and and
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Speaker 1: the end of that story is the reason that I
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Speaker 1: think it's fair to be able to have that conversation
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Speaker 1: is you have the quarterback and I'm still today as
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Speaker 1: excited about Trevor Lawrence as I was, you know, six
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Speaker 1: months before they drafted him. Well, I'm I should clarify
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Speaker 1: today's show. By the way, guys, if you notice there's
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Speaker 1: something different about me, I am phoneless. I left my
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Speaker 1: phone in my mother's house last night. I've gotta go
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Speaker 1: back and get after the show, So I'm a little
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Speaker 1: I'm a little out. Well, rarely do I go with
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Speaker 1: that phone. So I am a rudderless ship. So look out.
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Speaker 1: But it's a to Brian's point on free agency. If
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Speaker 1: Christian Kirk was the best wide receiver in the NFL,
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Speaker 1: he would be on the Cardinals. And I'm not criticizing
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Speaker 1: Christian Kirk. I'm just saying that every player is available
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Speaker 1: for free agency for a reason. Christian Kirk may work
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Speaker 1: and prove us wrong. And become the best Rep widency
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Speaker 1: in the NFL. He certainly has the capability to do that,
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Speaker 1: but there are always reasons guys are out there. What
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars did was raise the water, if you will.
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Speaker 1: They raised the talent level. That's what they needed to do.
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Speaker 1: And the impressive thing about Christian Kirk and about the
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Speaker 1: other players and its free agency class except for Brandon Schurf,
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Speaker 1: it does feel like they are rising players. They're all
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Speaker 1: twenty six. Trent Ball he said age was a factor.
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Speaker 1: They wanted to be younger, they wanted to have those
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Speaker 1: second contract guys. Um, I'm optimistic. I think what fans
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Speaker 1: are feeling, Brian, you mentioned the fans. What I'm feeling.
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Speaker 1: What the fans are feeling seems to be a cautious
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Speaker 1: long term optimism because you feel like you have a
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Speaker 1: professional head coach, quarterback who can grow. Beneath that. There
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Speaker 1: is a feeling one of the fans that I talked
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Speaker 1: to of, Hey, we like it, but we're gonna wait
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Speaker 1: and see. We're optimistic, but let's see how this first
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Speaker 1: year goes. So I think that's fair and absolutely one
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Speaker 1: more thing. I mean, I said I was excited as
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Speaker 1: as I can be about Trevor Lawrence. I am as
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Speaker 1: excited as can be about Doug Peterson. And after reading
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Speaker 1: that article in The Athletic yesterday which just piste me
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Speaker 1: off right about the way that that other guy ran
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Speaker 1: this thing. To have someone like Dugan who played for
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Speaker 1: Don Shula, Mike Holmegrin Andy Reid, played with Dan Marino
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Speaker 1: and Brett Farve uh in Philly, in in in Miami
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Speaker 1: and Kansas City, wherever he was. He understands how to
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Speaker 1: build a championship caliber team because he's done it, because
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Speaker 1: he's seen other people do it. So he brings in
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Speaker 1: a level of competency that we didn't see in So
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Speaker 1: all those factors in And I don't want to the
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Speaker 1: quarterback in the coach last year with the story, the
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Speaker 1: quarterback in the coach this year or the story and
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Speaker 1: this year, I think there's a happy ending opportunity. Last year,
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Speaker 1: I wasn't so sure. I think tier thing together Sland.
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Speaker 1: I think the seven free agents that they signed fit
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Speaker 1: what we're feeling about Doug Peterson, meaning, you know, and
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Speaker 1: I get winning the press conference, you get tired of it.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure they are fans and I don't care they
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Speaker 1: say during press conferences. But these guys feel like they fit.
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Speaker 1: They it feels like there's a vision and as I've
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Speaker 1: written multiple times since last Wednesday, that gives you the
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Speaker 1: foundation and a chance to build. That's where we're at.
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Speaker 1: That is where we're at. Let's get into big things.
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Speaker 1: Big thing one is the offense. Looking at the offense
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Speaker 1: after free agency, signing for offensive players. One of the
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Speaker 1: ones are really excited about is Titan Evan Ingleman. Like
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Speaker 1: we just talked about, Coach Peterson a major draw for
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Speaker 1: why these free agents chose Jacksonville. Big, big part of
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Speaker 1: my decision was was Doug him coming in here. Um
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Speaker 1: obviously playing against him, That's why I see year the
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Speaker 1: last five four years when he was in Philly, UM
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Speaker 1: and his his resume and pedigree of using the tight
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Speaker 1: end position, Um and some of the time they he's
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Speaker 1: developed was a big part of my decision. And uh
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Speaker 1: and having Trevor at quarterback and even in the direction
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Speaker 1: they were going free agency, and I just I kind
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Speaker 1: of felt that it was heading starting the head in
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Speaker 1: the right direction. I want to be a part of it.
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Speaker 1: Big thing too, is defense, looking at the defense after
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Speaker 1: free agency, into your defensive line, linebacker, corner, all positions
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Speaker 1: of neat and all checked off the list and free agency.
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Speaker 1: Foy a A. Louis Khan on the direction he sees
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Speaker 1: this defense going. After speaking with his new defensive coordinator,
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Speaker 1: I talked to Mike, I said, what do you think
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Speaker 1: you're what do you want to hang your head on
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Speaker 1: as a defense, because obviously we have to be on
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Speaker 1: the same page him and I, um with you know
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Speaker 1: what he wanted me to portray that to to the
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Speaker 1: rest of the unit. Um, I'm sure he wants to
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Speaker 1: stop the run. So obviously we have a league where
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Speaker 1: or a confidence where they run the ball well, and um,
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Speaker 1: you know, that's just more opportunity for me and how
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Speaker 1: I feel. Um, it's just definitely finding to go up
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Speaker 1: against that kind of competition and that kind of that
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Speaker 1: kind of talent, Like telling myself a lot of times
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Speaker 1: before I play effact, I feel like it's good if
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Speaker 1: I I go off against him and I'll be recognized
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Speaker 1: that I don't get that respect. And it's just fun
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Speaker 1: to play against those kind of guys. And finally, big
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Speaker 1: thing three very importance and free agency is the salary
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Speaker 1: cap before free agencies. The Jaguars were in the top
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Speaker 1: five of salary cap space. Now they are sitting at
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Speaker 1: in the league. Goes to show he spends a lot
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Speaker 1: of money last week for players you really needed. One
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Speaker 1: of the biggest contracts goes to the cornerback from Jacksonville,
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Speaker 1: Darius Williams. I mean as soon as free agency here
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Speaker 1: and my agent was telling me the Jags was just
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Speaker 1: just no coming after me. Um. Of course I just
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Speaker 1: had to put the little Pauls in there. Seeing what
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Speaker 1: other teams saw or one of the talked about. But
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Speaker 1: I just knew it was gonna be nothing like coming home. Um.
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Speaker 1: I pretty much know my whole time I was gonna
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Speaker 1: be a Jags. Um. But of course you just still
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Speaker 1: want to see, just to see, just to not just
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Speaker 1: jumping stuff so quick. But uh man couldn't wait to
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Speaker 1: come back home. And now you have it. That is
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Speaker 1: big things. Recapping a very busy week and fredency that
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Speaker 1: might not be done yet. There's reports from Adam Schefter
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Speaker 1: as of yesterday that former Titans linebacker Rashawn Evans we're
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Speaker 1: visiting Jacksonville this week and we talked a little bit
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Speaker 1: about the linebacker unit yesterday than Jaguar's reporter podcast that
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Speaker 1: was before this news came out. If they get Evans,
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Speaker 1: you're feeling pretty good about that unit. Yeah. Look, they
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Speaker 1: got better at stopping the run last year, but they
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Speaker 1: weren't good enough. They needed to be more stout upfront
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Speaker 1: and the front with a guy like Evans inside. And
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Speaker 1: we've seen what a lu kan. I won't lie. I didn't.
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Speaker 1: I didn't watch it Land a whole lot. Yes, last year,
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Speaker 1: didn't know a lot about him, but in watching him now, uh,
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Speaker 1: you know you put a guy like Evans who can
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Speaker 1: run equally as well next to him and and you're
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Speaker 1: in goodstead. Can I go to big thing? Three? Absolutely?
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Speaker 1: Salary cap um in this very seed. Trent Bulky last
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Speaker 1: week when he was on Drive Time talked about not
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Speaker 1: wanting to have this free agent exposition every year, right,
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Speaker 1: grab one or two that makes sense for you, um,
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Speaker 1: And that's certainly the goal, because, as we've talked about,
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Speaker 1: when you start putting this money out there, you know,
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Speaker 1: the return rate on free agents is probably less than
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Speaker 1: in terms of getting the value for the money that
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Speaker 1: you spend. The problem is that the salary cap is
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Speaker 1: about to take some exponential jumps up in terms of
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Speaker 1: the money available to teams to spend. Just as an example,
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Speaker 1: you mentioned that the Jaguars have fallen from the top
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Speaker 1: five to in terms of salary cap room next year,
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Speaker 1: there and there as it stands right now, and with
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Speaker 1: forty million dollars in capram right, that that's to give
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Speaker 1: you an idea of how much money there is to spend.
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Speaker 1: So how do you do that? Wisely? Draft and develop,
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Speaker 1: Go find your guys, do a great job in getting
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Speaker 1: these guys out of contract. And right now, how many
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Speaker 1: guys have the Jaguars got that they can extend that
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Speaker 1: they've drafted. I mean, well, I mean the obvious one
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Speaker 1: is Josh Allen, right, I mean you can grab him
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Speaker 1: and you can extend that. But beyond that, there really
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Speaker 1: isn't anybody that stands out that you say, okay, I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna do that right there. You gotta wait. You gotta
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Speaker 1: hope that last year's draft class comes through and that
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Speaker 1: you can start working on those guys and getting ahead
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Speaker 1: of it. And that's really the way people talk about
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Speaker 1: the cycle, and it's you know, you sign free agents
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Speaker 1: and you sort of it can happen that you chase
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Speaker 1: bad money with bad money and free agency, and as
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Speaker 1: Brian said, the only way out of that cycle, and
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Speaker 1: it's happened so long in Jacksonville that I get letters
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Speaker 1: or not letters, letters land with something people used to do.
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Speaker 1: You have to put a stamp on right. So um,
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Speaker 1: I get emails from people saying every year we hear
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Speaker 1: about this, John. Obviously it can't happen. Well. The way
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Speaker 1: it happens that you get yourself out of the free
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Speaker 1: agency cycle is you draft well. And as soon as
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Speaker 1: you start drafting well, then you get compensatory picks, which
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Speaker 1: had become kind of all the rage lately. Then you're
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Speaker 1: out of the cycle. Then you can develop players and
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Speaker 1: you can build a roster of homegrown That's what these
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Speaker 1: guys want to do. Clearly, they didn't feel like there
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Speaker 1: were second year candidates this year who as a group
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Speaker 1: merited that they're hoping to develop guys to merit it
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Speaker 1: in the future. One of the big ways that you
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Speaker 1: also get out of this is having a quarterback who
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Speaker 1: plays at a high level and takes up a huge
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Speaker 1: chunk of salary cap room. I mean, it's not out
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Speaker 1: of the Roman possibility to imagine Trevor Lawrence making sixty
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Speaker 1: million dollars a year. By the time we get to
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Speaker 1: his first big bite of that apple. Uh, that will
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Speaker 1: evaporate some of that room. And if you draft well,
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Speaker 1: it will take it down even further. But you know,
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Speaker 1: when you look at the teams that were involved in
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Speaker 1: free agency, you know immediately they they were not the
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Speaker 1: teams that have won Super Bowls in recent years. It
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Speaker 1: wasn't Kansas City in Tampa Bay. Um. You know. You
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Speaker 1: you found a team like Buffalo that was able to
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Speaker 1: massage you move All Star a lot to Lele, you know,
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Speaker 1: and bring in a couple of guys um the pass
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Speaker 1: rusher from Von Miller. Right, you can go do a
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Speaker 1: little bit of that um. But that's where you hope
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Speaker 1: to get that Your salary cap is comprised primarily of
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Speaker 1: your quarterback, in your drafting, a couple little pieces and
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Speaker 1: your set and you go swing at the fences for
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Speaker 1: Von Miller, hoping he's that guy that gets you over
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Speaker 1: the fence in Kansas City in the NFC Championship game
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Speaker 1: next year. Yeah, there's a staggering go for it now
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Speaker 1: trend in the NFL that I frankly never thought we
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Speaker 1: would see. And I think that would be a good
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Speaker 1: topic for our guests. How about that for a segment nice,
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Speaker 1: I like it. Speaking of our guests NFL Network and
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Speaker 1: NFL dot Com columns, Judy Batista joins us next right
12:43
Speaker 1: here on Jaguars Drive Time. We're back Jaguars Drive Time
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Speaker 1: of Tuesday morning, were brought to you by Jet Home Loans,
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Speaker 1: and we are in this free agency frenzy that has
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Speaker 1: not seemed to chill out and no one better to
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Speaker 1: talk about the NFL dot Com call on this. Judy
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Speaker 1: Batista joining us now, Judy, we are just trying to
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Speaker 1: keep up down here. This seems to be one of
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Speaker 1: the craziest free agencies we have ever seen. To be frank,
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Speaker 1: I think it's deep crazy. Um, we've ever seen I
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Speaker 1: don't remember ever seeing anything like this, especially the quarterback movement,
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Speaker 1: which is um wild and unprecedented in the NFL. Judy,
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Speaker 1: let me ask you, Um, this was the topic we
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Speaker 1: were just talking about this. The quarterbacks are the tip
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Speaker 1: of the iceberg on it. But so many big names
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Speaker 1: changing hands. Um, is this a trend? Do you see
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Speaker 1: this being the way the league is going forward? Because Judy,
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Speaker 1: unfortunately you and I have known each other a long
13:46
Speaker 1: long time, so we're the old people in the room
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Speaker 1: long with Brian, I don't remember this at Is this
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Speaker 1: how it's gonna be or if our team is gonna
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Speaker 1: have to see if it works. How do you see
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Speaker 1: this shaping up going forward? I do think, um, this
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Speaker 1: is likely to be the way things are for a while.
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Speaker 1: There's you know, if general managers have gotten younger, and
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Speaker 1: I think this wave of general managers is more aggressive
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Speaker 1: in team building. I mean you're right, like, only how
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Speaker 1: many years ago there were never trades in the NFL.
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Speaker 1: We would sort of bemoan like, oh, we wish it
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Speaker 1: were more like major League Baseball's trade deadline right where
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Speaker 1: superstar players are moving all the time. That never happened,
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Speaker 1: and you certainly never saw a player for player trades.
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Speaker 1: And part of the reason was they would say, well,
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Speaker 1: you know, the salary cap makes it too complicated. Well
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Speaker 1: now we realize not really, they just didn't want to
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Speaker 1: do trades. Um. This wave of general managers seems more
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Speaker 1: comfortable with with doing it, and so I think, um,
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Speaker 1: we are likely to see this kind of movement. Um,
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Speaker 1: it wasn't you know, we we just saw what the
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Speaker 1: Rams did. Um, And that's not for everybody. That's not
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Speaker 1: everybody's cup of tea the way they built their team,
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Speaker 1: but it worked, Um, and I think you're you know,
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Speaker 1: I think you're going to see a comfort level, particularly
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Speaker 1: with moving star level players. You know, Judy, I'm not
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Speaker 1: sure what my question is here, but when when you
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Speaker 1: look at the Colts, right, Um, the Colts for years
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Speaker 1: had Peyton Manning and then Andrew Luck and they had
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Speaker 1: no quarterback instability at all. And now what are they
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Speaker 1: going into six straight years? This will be with them
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Speaker 1: with a different starting quarterback. Uh. Part of that, I
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Speaker 1: think it speaks to what you were saying, and that
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Speaker 1: is is that you know, you've got guys who are
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Speaker 1: willing to take chances. And the other part of it
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Speaker 1: is is that when there's not someone out there, guys
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Speaker 1: can move freely. It's just so interesting Marcus Mariott is
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Speaker 1: getting another chance, and Russell Wilson moves to Denver, and
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Speaker 1: so where does Baker Mayfield land? Where does this whole
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Speaker 1: quarterback carousel stop this year? I think also, just to
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Speaker 1: add to what you were saying, a contributing factor this
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Speaker 1: year is the draft class is not you know, there's
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Speaker 1: just not this wealth of quarterbacks that are really well
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Speaker 1: regarded in this draft class. Maybe that will turn out
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Speaker 1: to be wrong, but at least the analysis going into
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Speaker 1: the draft is, you know, there's no Trevor Wance. So
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Speaker 1: if you are a team in need of that guy,
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Speaker 1: you know, the draft is sort of pushed to the side.
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Speaker 1: And if if you feel like we're just a quarterback away, um,
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Speaker 1: then you're gonna go get one in free agency. To
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Speaker 1: answer your question about Baker Mayfield, you know, I don't
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Speaker 1: I don't know where he lands. Um certainly that you know,
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Speaker 1: the seats are filling up and the music is getting
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Speaker 1: close to stopping. Um. He apparently wanted was hoping for
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Speaker 1: the Indianapolis called I never thought that was going to
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Speaker 1: be a great fit. They apparently were not, um, you know,
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Speaker 1: really in on him either. So uh, you know there
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Speaker 1: are teams that still need a quarterback Seattle. Um, you know,
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Speaker 1: I can't imagine they're going to be just settling Withdrew
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Speaker 1: lock So is Seattle a possibility? Um? Maybe what are
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Speaker 1: the Carolina panther is gonna do? Uh since they missed
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Speaker 1: out onto Shaun Watson. But you know the slots are
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Speaker 1: closing up. I mean Atlanta, you know, trades Matt Ryan
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Speaker 1: and then signs Marcus Mariotta, who is clearly their bridge quarterback.
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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe he resurrects his career, which would be tremendous us,
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Speaker 1: but you know, clearly he is the bridge to either
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Speaker 1: his own career resurrection or to somebody else. Um. You know,
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Speaker 1: New Orleans brought back Jamis Winston, which I think was
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Speaker 1: the no brainer move. Um, but you know the spots
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Speaker 1: not just Stake or Mayfield. What happens to Jimmy Garoffalo now,
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Speaker 1: who I think we all assumed would be moved by
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Speaker 1: this time, and his shoulder surgery has really messed up
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Speaker 1: his his movement. Just craziness. I'm attempting to keep up
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Speaker 1: down here. And we hear a lot about a second
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Speaker 1: chances in free agency, and Evan Ingram is someone that pops.
17:33
Speaker 1: If I know you're in the New York markets, he
17:34
Speaker 1: probably paid a little bit of attention to him. Do
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Speaker 1: you see this panning out here in jackson for a
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Speaker 1: Christian Kirk, for an Evan Ingram to really make it
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Speaker 1: here in Jacksonville? Let me address Evan Ingram. I feel
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Speaker 1: like maybe no player needed a fresh start more than
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Speaker 1: Evan Ingram. It's just you know, he had so much
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Speaker 1: promise at the Giants, and he showed flashes um of
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Speaker 1: his ability. It just never all came together are consistently
18:01
Speaker 1: game after game, and I think, you know, fans got
18:03
Speaker 1: tired of him and of waiting, and so it just
18:07
Speaker 1: wasn't going to work. I do think he has tremendous skill. Um.
18:11
Speaker 1: I mean he you know, runs throughoutes like a wide receiver,
18:14
Speaker 1: and he has hands like a wide receiver and he's big.
18:17
Speaker 1: So I think he is potentially if it all comes together,
18:22
Speaker 1: you know, he's like going to be the safety blanket
18:24
Speaker 1: for for Trevor Lawrence, right, Like, you know, easy passes, Um,
18:29
Speaker 1: he can catch and then run with the ball. He's
18:31
Speaker 1: really good with the ball in his hands. So I
18:33
Speaker 1: think potentially that is going to be a great combination
18:37
Speaker 1: with Trevor and will really help you know, we'll give
18:40
Speaker 1: Trevors like easy completions, which is what you need to
18:43
Speaker 1: do to help develop a young quarterback. Um. You know,
18:47
Speaker 1: the Christian Kirk thing is going to be fascinating because
18:50
Speaker 1: obviously he's being paid like a top ten receiver, which
18:52
Speaker 1: he is not at this moment um. But you know
18:56
Speaker 1: they're they're betting on the upside, and they've got the
18:59
Speaker 1: money to spend. I'm not quite as outraged by their money.
19:01
Speaker 1: I don't want to pay a play like salary cap amateur,
19:04
Speaker 1: salary cap guru. They have the money. This is what
19:07
Speaker 1: you have to do, um when you have to fill
19:10
Speaker 1: roster hole. So I am curious to see about Christian
19:13
Speaker 1: Kirky is a good receiver. I'm curious to see if
19:15
Speaker 1: he can go up the level to to match what
19:19
Speaker 1: his paycheck is going to be. But again, I give
19:22
Speaker 1: the Jack Wars credit because this offseason had to be
19:25
Speaker 1: all about putting the pieces around Trevor, are supporting Trevor
19:30
Speaker 1: so that he can develop. And I do think they
19:32
Speaker 1: have have done that, including you know, helping their offensive line,
19:36
Speaker 1: which is a big part of it. Um. I So
19:39
Speaker 1: I think they have done that, and I think, um
19:41
Speaker 1: the offense should function that are the roster is better
19:45
Speaker 1: than it was you know ten days ago, Judy, your
19:48
Speaker 1: NFC eats East roots run pretty deep. So I'm sure
19:52
Speaker 1: you have people who coach against Doug Peterson. And you
19:56
Speaker 1: know Doug Peterson too. Degree tell me what he brings
20:00
Speaker 1: his reputation in the northeast calm right, he will bring
20:06
Speaker 1: like like I he's really well liked and um, you
20:11
Speaker 1: know players coach is not the right descriptions, but like
20:15
Speaker 1: he's he's a well liked person. And I think that's
20:18
Speaker 1: probably going to be a nice change. Um. I think
20:21
Speaker 1: he will lower the temperature. He's collaborative, um, and is
20:25
Speaker 1: a good offensive mind and you know, in terms of football, like,
20:28
Speaker 1: he had an awful lot of success in Philadelphia for instance,
20:31
Speaker 1: we're just talking about Evan Ingram. He's always had a
20:34
Speaker 1: lot of success with tight ends, um. And that will
20:36
Speaker 1: help Trevor Lawrence. He's something of a you know, quarterback
20:40
Speaker 1: whisperer as a quarterback, former quarterback himself. So I think
20:43
Speaker 1: that will help Trevor an awful lot to have somebody
20:46
Speaker 1: who knows what he's going through in a game, um,
20:51
Speaker 1: you know, right there on the sideline. I think that
20:53
Speaker 1: will help Trevor a lout up. Mostly, I think he
20:55
Speaker 1: will bring a calm and qual it and um, you know,
21:01
Speaker 1: in goodwill, and that's probably going to go a long way.
21:05
Speaker 1: There is nothing wrong with some calmness here in Jacksonville.
21:08
Speaker 1: I think we all can agree with you, and we
21:10
Speaker 1: just confirm, um, Yes, he is much better liked already. Yes,
21:16
Speaker 1: he is naked strides in the building, that's for sure. Judy,
21:18
Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time. We appreciate it,
21:21
Speaker 1: my pleasure. I hope to see you guys soon. Yes,
21:23
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22:02
Speaker 1: of free agency, the Jaguars potentially still making some moves,
22:05
Speaker 1: so a very busy time here in the off season
22:08
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. It is time for some Ashland asked three
22:11
Speaker 1: person questions we have in mind for today for these
22:13
Speaker 1: two lovely gentlemen. Are you ready? Yes, yes, we are right.
22:18
Speaker 1: You threw me off with lovely. I like to throw
22:21
Speaker 1: a compliment in here now and then, you know, just
22:23
Speaker 1: to keep you on your toes. Alright. Number one, who
22:27
Speaker 1: will be the most impactful free agents signing out of
22:32
Speaker 1: the bunch the Jaguars adding seven free agents as of now,
22:38
Speaker 1: who will we be talking most about? Who will be
22:41
Speaker 1: the most impactful? John Osan, al Right, I'm gonna go
22:46
Speaker 1: with the B Man. Oh god, Brandon. Sure, and I'm
22:49
Speaker 1: sure he's been called the B Man quite a bit.
22:52
Speaker 1: But I know they are going to be stat guys.
22:56
Speaker 1: I know people are gonna be watching Kirk, They're gonna
22:59
Speaker 1: be watching having in him. But Brian's alluded this a
23:03
Speaker 1: couple of times. He becomes the most or the second
23:08
Speaker 1: most decorated offensive lineman this team has ever had. I
23:12
Speaker 1: don't know that he gives this team five years of
23:16
Speaker 1: Pro Bowls because of his age, but he has certainly,
23:19
Speaker 1: uh he will have an impact. He will allow the
23:21
Speaker 1: offensive line to go from okay in the last couple
23:26
Speaker 1: of years to being a dominant unit. He gives them
23:29
Speaker 1: a chance to do that. So I think he's gonna
23:31
Speaker 1: be the most impactful. You sure hope he is. He's
23:33
Speaker 1: supposed to be. Ye, Well, so I went with the
23:35
Speaker 1: Brandon Sheriff right there. That's what the stars for like Schriff.
23:41
Speaker 1: I'll go with the Sheriff because he's big. Um, he
23:44
Speaker 1: might not like the man, but he will be the
23:48
Speaker 1: most impactful because he will give them the ability. I've
23:52
Speaker 1: talked about Jowan Taylor at right tackle, I don't I
23:54
Speaker 1: don't see him as a tackle. I se him more
23:55
Speaker 1: as an interior offensive lineman. But the two of them combine,
23:58
Speaker 1: this team will be right handed. They will He is
24:00
Speaker 1: a mahler in the run game for anything that that
24:03
Speaker 1: Jawan lacks in past protection. With his feet, the guy
24:06
Speaker 1: can absolutely create a lane. And that's what Sureff Sheriff does.
24:11
Speaker 1: So the two of them leading the way, put a
24:13
Speaker 1: tight end over there and block. Um Luke Ferrell right
24:17
Speaker 1: blocking tight end, I mean you should be able to
24:19
Speaker 1: get third and two, I mean seventy of the time.
24:22
Speaker 1: So I think he's going to create the running game
24:25
Speaker 1: which will help take the pressure off of the passing game. UM.
24:29
Speaker 1: And I just he's a great player, um the most
24:33
Speaker 1: decorated player they have signed in free agency ever uh
24:36
Speaker 1: and the second most decorated offensive lineman that they will
24:39
Speaker 1: have ever had. So it's hard to see anyone having
24:42
Speaker 1: the impact that he will. I like it. Sorry, now
24:44
Speaker 1: that we have noted the positive, what's missing? Who did
24:47
Speaker 1: The Jaguars still need to get and free agency, possibly
24:52
Speaker 1: the draft. Can they fix this right now in this
24:55
Speaker 1: week's free agency? What is still missing? John Well, I'm
25:00
Speaker 1: gonna go they. I'm gonna go positions, but I like
25:04
Speaker 1: them to address linebacker. I like the idea, and his
25:09
Speaker 1: name is Escape. I like the idea of him. Uh.
25:13
Speaker 1: I like the idea of interior offensive line. There are
25:15
Speaker 1: reports that Brandon Linder is mulling retirement. If that's the case,
25:19
Speaker 1: I like Shatley there uh at center. But they you
25:25
Speaker 1: need depth on the offensive line. You need seven or
25:27
Speaker 1: eight guys who can play. They have had that in
25:30
Speaker 1: recent years, So interior offensive line. I don't know if
25:33
Speaker 1: it's the draft and something happens with Lender if you
25:35
Speaker 1: go that way free agency, just to make sure you
25:36
Speaker 1: are short up there. But I like those two positions
25:39
Speaker 1: as possible second wave free agents. I think those are
25:42
Speaker 1: the two I wrote none because most of the names
25:45
Speaker 1: that are left in the free agent lists are over
25:47
Speaker 1: thirty years old. They all signed with the Jacks. Yeah,
25:49
Speaker 1: well right, who those you didn't? I don't want any.
25:51
Speaker 1: I don't want any thirty two year old linebackers. I
25:54
Speaker 1: don't want any. I don't want a thirty four year
25:56
Speaker 1: old safety, none of that stuff, Um, because I'm trying
26:00
Speaker 1: to build for next year and beyond and I want
26:02
Speaker 1: to be able to pay my own guys. But John's right, Um,
26:05
Speaker 1: Jon Evans would make sense because he's a young He's
26:07
Speaker 1: a twenty six year old linebacker. Um. And the Jaguars
26:10
Speaker 1: got Brandon Linder and a j Can in the third round.
26:14
Speaker 1: And Can was a four year, five year starter for them,
26:17
Speaker 1: and and Linda obviously has not been healthy in recent years,
26:20
Speaker 1: but he's been a mainstay of the offensive line for
26:22
Speaker 1: almost a decade. So I'd like to see them address
26:25
Speaker 1: that in the draft, and to think that's where they were.
26:28
Speaker 1: Go find me a couple of guys that that I
26:31
Speaker 1: can do and a center in particular. You should be
26:34
Speaker 1: able to find that. Remember Brandon Lendy was drafted as
26:36
Speaker 1: a guard from Miami and he transitioned to center and
26:39
Speaker 1: was a very good one. Yes, had a great can
26:40
Speaker 1: they have two third round picks. That seems to me
26:43
Speaker 1: the sweets Okay, well you mentioned the third round. Now
26:47
Speaker 1: that we have some new guys here in Jacksonville, seven
26:49
Speaker 1: free agents as of now, now we have a better
26:51
Speaker 1: idea of Okay, maybe what are they thinking in the draft.
26:55
Speaker 1: Who Now, if you don't be specific, you could do
26:57
Speaker 1: position if you so please. Are the Jaguars taking at
27:02
Speaker 1: thirty three their first pick in the second round, John,
27:06
Speaker 1: I'm not getting off this train you have stayed on.
27:08
Speaker 1: I think they're going wide receiver with he just showed
27:11
Speaker 1: my my yes, you're very nice strong. He's trying wide receiver. Um.
27:20
Speaker 1: It just feels to me like they have wide receivers
27:25
Speaker 1: right now who they feel good about. They have small
27:27
Speaker 1: guys who can run. Uh, the way you get big
27:33
Speaker 1: time elite guy at that position, as we saw last week,
27:38
Speaker 1: big time elite guy who's a true one doesn't come
27:42
Speaker 1: available in free agency. You've got to draft it. This year,
27:46
Speaker 1: the sweet spot in the draft for wide receivers is
27:49
Speaker 1: probably gonna be anywhere between number twenty overall and number
27:52
Speaker 1: forty overall. The Jaguars said at number thirty three, trade
27:56
Speaker 1: up somewhere. I still I would be sucked if they
28:01
Speaker 1: don't go wide receiver, Mbell. I don't want to pigeon
28:04
Speaker 1: myself into pigeonholed myself into taking the best wide receiver.
28:08
Speaker 1: I want the best player, and I'm not sure that
28:10
Speaker 1: Jagguars are gonna stay at thirty three. You mentioned the
28:11
Speaker 1: two third round picks. They have the ability to move up.
28:14
Speaker 1: And there's a guy who I keep hearing is gonna
28:16
Speaker 1: slide um. You know, there's gonna be a rush up
28:19
Speaker 1: the board for receivers and a rush up the board
28:21
Speaker 1: for offensive lineman because there are six or seven quality
28:24
Speaker 1: offensive tackles. So a guy like Nakobe Dean, the linebacker
28:28
Speaker 1: from Georgia who everybody had in the top ten when
28:30
Speaker 1: when Georgia won the national championship, and rightfully so, he's
28:33
Speaker 1: a tremendous player, but he's a shade under six feet tall,
28:37
Speaker 1: and so he's a guy, and he plays a position
28:39
Speaker 1: that's not a premium position that could be somewhere within
28:42
Speaker 1: striking distance. If there is a legit, if there's an
28:45
Speaker 1: A J. Brown kind of wide receiver, right the Titans
28:48
Speaker 1: great receiver who's the second round pick, well then I
28:51
Speaker 1: want him. But if it's not, I don't want to
28:53
Speaker 1: be stuck with just taking the best receiver. I want
28:57
Speaker 1: this guy, and if he's anywhere within striking distance, give
29:00
Speaker 1: me him. Plus, you may as well look at other positions,
29:03
Speaker 1: because in these conversations I'm talking wide receivers. You may
29:07
Speaker 1: as well figure out something else to talk about. I know,
29:10
Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're not getting off of that one,
29:11
Speaker 1: so but that's okay. Legitimately, I could see him sitting
29:15
Speaker 1: at twenty six, right, and and a lot of people
29:18
Speaker 1: talking about going up the board to get him because
29:21
Speaker 1: he's too good of a value to slide much further,
29:23
Speaker 1: on a serious note, Brian's right at that spot. If
29:26
Speaker 1: wide receivers are gone, you don't force it. You need
29:29
Speaker 1: to get that's a premium pick. I think the Jaguars
29:31
Speaker 1: may have gotten a long term starter in Tyson Campbell
29:33
Speaker 1: there last year. You need to take advantage of that
29:36
Speaker 1: because it's basically a second late first round. When you
29:39
Speaker 1: saw what you just said, right, I mean, um Davante
29:41
Speaker 1: Adams was franchised and then traded Chris Godwin with the
29:45
Speaker 1: A c L franchised, Mike Williams got a new deal.
29:48
Speaker 1: Teams locked up great receivers. So the panic, the passion,
29:53
Speaker 1: the mania for receivers is going to force teams up
29:55
Speaker 1: into the bottom of the first round to get at
29:57
Speaker 1: John Dotson from Penn Steak and those out of guys.
30:00
Speaker 1: The kid from North Dakota State, Watson is climbing as well.
30:03
Speaker 1: There's there could be a great value there if the
30:06
Speaker 1: Jaguars are willing to be patients. Absolutely, and that is
30:09
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