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Huddle Up | Cam Robinson’s Return & More to Watch vs. Vikings · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Huddle Up.
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  Speaker 2: Frock you by the Fields Total Group, Jaguars Senior writer
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  Speaker 2: John Osher, NFL network analyst and former Jaguar Bucky Brooks,
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  Speaker 2: and Senior reporter J. P. Shadders bring you the latest
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  Speaker 2: on your Jacksonville Jaguars.
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  Speaker 1: Huddle Up starts right now and welcome in.
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  Speaker 3: It is Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks Wednesday, November sixth,
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  Speaker 3: and we've got a busy show ahead as the Jaguars
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  Speaker 3: prepared to face the Minnesota Vikings in week ten, the
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  Speaker 3: trade deadline in the rear view, the quarterback is on
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  Speaker 3: the injury report.
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  Speaker 1: This week. We'll get to that.
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  Speaker 3: A final look at the Jaguars Eagles game because we must,
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  Speaker 3: and a first look, of course at the Vikings Jaguars
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  Speaker 3: matchup as the Jaguars get back into the NFC North,
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  Speaker 3: the toughest division in the NFL. Huddle Up with Bucky
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  Speaker 3: Field's Auto dot Com. JP Shadwick with John Osier. We're
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  Speaker 3: at the Honday studios of the Miller Electric Center. Bucky
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  Speaker 3: Brooks is in Los Angeles, La Bucky, We love La Bucky.
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  Speaker 1: Good afternoon, Bucky. How are you. I'm good.
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  Speaker 4: What's going on, guys?
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  Speaker 1: Well A lot?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, obviously the trade deadline came and went.
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  Speaker 3: Jaguars had no extra movement from after Cam Robinson's deal
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  Speaker 3: and Roy robertson Harris. Those are the two in season
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  Speaker 3: trades with the jagsus year. And then today when the
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  Speaker 3: quarterbacks dinged up and is limited at practice, that's always news, Bucky.
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  Speaker 3: So non throwing shoulder, we're told her upper body, I
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  Speaker 3: guess is what came out of the game last week.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: No, here's the thing, And I look, I thought there
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  Speaker 5: was something to that when you're when you're sitting at
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  Speaker 5: halftime and Trevor has to go get an X ray
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  Speaker 5: and you don't know if he's going to start, if
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  Speaker 5: mac Jones's gonna start.
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  Speaker 4: He certainly had getting beat up a little bit in
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  Speaker 4: that game.
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  Speaker 5: And what you hope is at some point he's able
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  Speaker 5: to come back and return uh to practice. But one
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  Speaker 5: of the reasons why you signed mac Jones is so
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  Speaker 5: we could avoid what happened last year where Trevor went
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  Speaker 5: through a series of weeks where he couldn't practice, but
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  Speaker 5: he played and it impacted his performance. If he's hurt
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  Speaker 5: and hurt enough where you don't feel good about him playing,
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  Speaker 5: you have a former first round in Mac Jones, You
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  Speaker 5: roll with Mac Jones, and you kind of figure out
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  Speaker 5: a way to win with Mac Jones as your quarterback.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, this is the scenario. So it's uh, And.
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  Speaker 3: They brought on CJ. Bethterard from the practice squad of
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  Speaker 3: the Dolphins. That kind of was before all the talking today.
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  Speaker 6: Well, and I don't think you bring in CJ unless
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  Speaker 6: there's a real chance that Trevor can't play. So, you know,
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  Speaker 6: I think the all we're gonna know this week is
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  Speaker 6: that Trevor is tough. He's played through this kind of
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  Speaker 6: thing or I shouldn't say the kind of things. I
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  Speaker 6: don't know how the seriousness is, but he's played through
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  Speaker 6: stuff before. He'll play if he can be out there.
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  Speaker 6: But yeah, without question, this is why now you feel
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  Speaker 6: less inclined to pressure or to say, hey, Trevor, we
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  Speaker 6: need you to play. You're supposed to be able to
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  Speaker 6: win with your backup quarterbacks a couple.
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  Speaker 3: And this would have been the scenario last season, had
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  Speaker 3: you know, maybe Mac or somebody at that level been
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  Speaker 3: on the roster.
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  Speaker 6: No, what you never know is, look, the starting quarterback,
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  Speaker 6: if he wants to play and feels like he's ready,
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  Speaker 6: there's a little bit of benefit of the doubt that
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  Speaker 6: guy has to get. Yeah, But then Bucky, that's also
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  Speaker 6: I guess that's the art of being a head coach, right,
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  Speaker 6: of knowing how much a leverage isn't the right word,
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  Speaker 6: how much leeway the quarterback should get versus Hey, I
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  Speaker 6: get it, kid, but but we got to go a
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  Speaker 6: different direction because you know, you can't protect yourself or
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  Speaker 6: you know, whatever factor there is. There's no blueprint for this,
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  Speaker 6: I guess to what I'm saying, I'm trying to say.
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  Speaker 5: No, there's not a blueprint for it, but it is
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  Speaker 5: something that you want to maybe do a better job
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  Speaker 5: than you did last year because Trevor's play through injury
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  Speaker 5: was detrimental to his performance last season, and a lot
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  Speaker 5: of the stuff that happened at the end of last
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  Speaker 5: season might have affected the way that he played this season.
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  Speaker 5: Just from a confidence standpoint, you want to protect the
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  Speaker 5: player from the player, and if you're Doug Peterson, you
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  Speaker 5: understand the severity of the injury you had a backup
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  Speaker 5: policy and Mac Jones.
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  Speaker 4: You got him for a reason.
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  Speaker 5: You got to trust the play and the plan is
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  Speaker 5: get mac Jones in case I'm having to Trevor handleball
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  Speaker 5: to Mac Jones if Trevor camp play.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, JP. People have been trying to protect me from
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  Speaker 6: me all my life, so I get it.
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  Speaker 1: Hey you're stubborn.
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  Speaker 4: Well, yea, it hasn't worked, certainly, it's not.
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  Speaker 3: We got plenty ahead on the Vikings Jaguars matchup, presented
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  Speaker 3: by CSX this coming Sunday in week ten CSX how
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  Speaker 3: Tomorrow Moves. However, let's take a final look back at
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  Speaker 3: the Eagles Jaguars matchup a game. Stop me if you've
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  Speaker 3: heard this before. The Jaguars were in an early deficit
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  Speaker 3: in the game. This time it was twenty two nothing,
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  Speaker 3: and somehow found a way to stay in the game.
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  Speaker 3: They finally got a drive on offense after thirty one
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  Speaker 3: yards and one first down in the first half. They
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  Speaker 3: got something in the third quarter, going got a touchdown
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  Speaker 3: the improbable takeaway and fumble return touchdown from Trayvon Walker
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  Speaker 3: on just a razor thin margin for air or play
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  Speaker 3: that was so close to being down, but it wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: It was a fumble.
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  Speaker 3: And they had to talk to the poor reporter after
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  Speaker 3: the game with a replay official. All that happened to
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  Speaker 3: get the Jags back within one score and then of
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  Speaker 3: course the third takeaway of the game on the final
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  Speaker 3: drive on a first down play, I throw the left
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  Speaker 3: side of the end zone ended it. So unfortunately a
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  Speaker 3: little bit short by five points in the game.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and it unfortunately it feels like to me this
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  Speaker 6: is what they are, meaning they've lost five games in
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  Speaker 6: the last two minutes easily, you know, I say easily
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  Speaker 6: could have been x, right, But also what the league
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  Speaker 6: is is winning games like this in the last couple
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  Speaker 6: of weeks. You know, I don't think I can say
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  Speaker 6: either of the last two weeks that I walked out
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  Speaker 6: of the stadium thinking the Jaguars blew that one to
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  Speaker 6: a team they should have beaten. You know, they would
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  Speaker 6: have been playing a little bit above what you expected
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  Speaker 6: to win either one. So in that sense, you give
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  Speaker 6: the players points for you know, Valiants, I guess, But
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  Speaker 6: I'm also tired of that, right, I mean, I think
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  Speaker 6: fans listening to this or tired. Well, they played hard,
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  Speaker 6: they so I think they're a team right now. That
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  Speaker 6: is when it's gonna take something unusual for them to
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  Speaker 6: get over that hump, because they've shown us what they are.
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  Speaker 6: And I wish that wasn't true, but that feels like
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  Speaker 6: what this season has been, Bucky.
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  Speaker 4: It has been that.
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  Speaker 5: And when people show you who they are, you got
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  Speaker 5: to believe them. And Bill par Sales will say you
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  Speaker 5: are what your record is. And the Jaguars are sitting
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  Speaker 5: at two and seven, and we can talk about them
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  Speaker 5: having five losses by five points and fewer, but there
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  Speaker 5: was still losses. Have been able to make the key
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  Speaker 5: plays when you need to make him in the late.
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  Speaker 4: Stages of games, so you have to own it. And DEEG.
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  Speaker 5: Peterson was at his presso talking about accountability and how
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  Speaker 5: to you keep the team playing hard in those things
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  Speaker 5: you show them to tape, you talk about the little things,
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  Speaker 5: you hold them accountable for doing the little things. I mean, look,
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  Speaker 5: it's been a year and a half talking about the
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  Speaker 5: same talk, right We've had the same conversation in some way,
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  Speaker 5: shape or form since last year, and the team still
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  Speaker 5: has not done it. He can continue to preach it,
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  Speaker 5: but until the take the message to heart, it will
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  Speaker 5: be the same result over and over and over.
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  Speaker 6: Again, and Bucky, am I reading this right, it sort
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  Speaker 6: of feels like to the Eagles, rightly or wrongly, it
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  Speaker 6: kind of showed me they're a team that is Maybe
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  Speaker 6: I don't know if matures the right word or experience whatever,
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  Speaker 6: but Saquon Barkley makes some big time plays to win
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  Speaker 6: that game. Jalen Hurts makes some big time plays to
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  Speaker 6: win that game. DeVante Smith, they're big time players. The
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  Speaker 6: DeVante Smith play, I mean, everybody's talking about the Saquon
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  Speaker 6: play because it made headlines, but the Smith catch at
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  Speaker 6: the end of the or on third and twenty two,
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  Speaker 6: that play should have been a field goal, right, that
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  Speaker 6: should have been three points, but Hurts threw it up
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  Speaker 6: trusted and said, my guy can make that play. I
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  Speaker 6: think the Jaguars have Brian Thomas Junior who can make
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  Speaker 6: that play. Trayvon on defense is that level guy. I
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  Speaker 6: don't know if the Jaguars like BTJ may not be
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  Speaker 6: there yet in that moment. I think he's gonna be
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  Speaker 6: that player going forward. But Bucky, it felt like the
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  Speaker 6: big time players were the difference in that game on Sunday.
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  Speaker 5: And I would say the Eagles won in spite of
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  Speaker 5: the faulty and flaw coaching that Nick Sirianni provided them.
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  Speaker 1: This was a game.
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  Speaker 5: If I'm an Eagles fan, I'm upset because this was
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  Speaker 5: a game that should have been forty to something. For
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  Speaker 5: the Eagles, they had more than enough opportunities, particularly in
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  Speaker 5: the first half, to knock the Jaguars out.
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  Speaker 4: To the Jaguars credit, they fought and got back.
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  Speaker 5: But for our team, yeah, they're not enough guys that
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  Speaker 5: are making those gotta have it plays in those moments. Offensively,
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  Speaker 5: Brian Thomas Junior is the number one receiver. He is
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  Speaker 5: second to the second guy with rate as Evan Ingram,
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  Speaker 5: and then I would say Tank Bigsby and Travis Etienn
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  Speaker 5: and forth in terms of the pecking order in critical moments,
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  Speaker 5: the ball.
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  Speaker 4: Has to go to your best players.
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  Speaker 5: I am disappointed at the ball somehow found this way
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  Speaker 5: to Darrenis Johnson.
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  Speaker 4: He's a solid player, he's a good player in his role.
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  Speaker 5: But games should not be decided on whether we throw
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  Speaker 5: fifty fifty balls up to the Dearnie Johnson. And so that's
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  Speaker 5: something that has to improve. And whether that's a coordinator thing,
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  Speaker 5: whether that's the Trevor thing, the ball needs to end
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  Speaker 5: up in the direction of your best players, because those
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  Speaker 5: guys are the most impactful players that you have on
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  Speaker 5: your team.
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  Speaker 3: Or if it's covered, throw it into the stands. I
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  Speaker 3: mean that I lived second down.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's also another good idea to understand situation to
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  Speaker 5: make sure that you don't make a bad play. Yes,
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  Speaker 5: that is something that you definitely want to consider and
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  Speaker 5: probably execute.
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  Speaker 3: All right, we've got plenty ahead. We'll come back in
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  Speaker 3: a moment, and we're going to move it forward. The
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  Speaker 3: Eagles game is flushed. We're done with it, complete with
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  Speaker 3: sound effects. This is huddle up with bucket b.
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  Speaker 7: I think the talent around him, you know, I mean
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  Speaker 7: that helps, right, I mean just having having having the
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  Speaker 7: run game of the defense, the way the defense has played,
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  Speaker 7: you know, being in in coach O'Connell's system and in
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  Speaker 7: the way he calls plays, I think is helpful. And
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  Speaker 7: and look, he's he's always been. He's always been a
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  Speaker 7: solid quarterback and whatever team or role he's on. I
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  Speaker 7: just think now he's learning, maturing and and showing.
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  Speaker 4: That he's capable of doing it.
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  Speaker 7: And and that's what you're seeing on on film, you know,
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  Speaker 7: taking care of the football.
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  Speaker 4: That's a big part of this thing.
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  Speaker 7: And and to yes, Justin Jefferson is a you know,
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  Speaker 7: obviously an elite receiver in this league that you know
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  Speaker 7: can can recavoc on you.
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  Speaker 3: Said coach Doug Peterson today asked about Sam Darnold and
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  Speaker 3: his effectiveness so far.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back.
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  Speaker 6: I have a question for the scout, okay, or for
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  Speaker 6: the league analyst, and I know this is what we're
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  Speaker 6: talking about, so I've jumped in on you JP.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 6: You know Sam Donald, is he part of a trend
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  Speaker 6: meaning a second team guy. He's on his second team
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  Speaker 6: right JP thir thirteen. Well even better, even better for
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  Speaker 6: my point.
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  Speaker 1: Fourth team? Right? Who is fourth team?
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  Speaker 6: The league so much different, Bucky than the NFL in
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  Speaker 6: college football? Are we going to see more guys like
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  Speaker 6: the es who need time, who get given up on
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  Speaker 6: at the quarterback position? And now Mayfield's doing it, and
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  Speaker 6: I think we're about to see a lot of these guys.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, we're gonna see a lot of it because the
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  Speaker 5: first teams aren't exhibiting the patients that you probably need
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  Speaker 5: to with a young player.
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  Speaker 6: But can then, right, I get why they don't do it.
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  Speaker 6: The league set up poorly for these guys. Right now,
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  Speaker 6: it is.
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  Speaker 4: But then the other thing I would say, John, like,
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  Speaker 4: when you take that it should be an investment.
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  Speaker 5: And so rather than the rush to get guys on
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  Speaker 5: the field, the rush should be to develop.
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  Speaker 4: Them until they're ready to play.
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  Speaker 5: And the best teams should draft a quarterback before you
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  Speaker 5: need a quarterback. And so if you have a quarterback
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  Speaker 5: that is nearing the end of his run, maybe two
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  Speaker 5: years before he's done, you begin to bring into young
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  Speaker 5: quarterbacks so you can develop him and give him an opportunity.
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  Speaker 5: We have seen that model work multiple instances in Green Bay.
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  Speaker 5: We've seen it work in Kansas City, Alex Smith and
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  Speaker 5: Pat Mahomes.
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  Speaker 4: There's a way that.
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  Speaker 5: You can successfully prepare your young quarterback. And what executives
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  Speaker 5: have to do is ignore the outside noise that are
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  Speaker 5: telling you eight o'clock is running. We got to get
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  Speaker 5: him in the super Bowl window during this rookie contract.
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  Speaker 5: It should be when can we get him ready to play?
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  Speaker 5: And we will play and when he's ready to play,
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  Speaker 5: whether it's this year, next year, or two years from now,
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  Speaker 5: we need to do what's right by the player as
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  Speaker 5: opposed to trying to get the quick fix and do
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  Speaker 5: it with a cheap rookie contract that quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, same idea in Atlanta, right, except Pennix is
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  Speaker 3: a little bit older than the normal rookie coming in
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  Speaker 3: in a first round pick. I mean he's what twenty
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  Speaker 3: six years old or something, But same idea with cousins there.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, look, yeah, he's a little older, but
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  Speaker 5: not not like Brandon Weed or any of those guys.
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  Speaker 5: I mean he's like twenty five whatever. But that's still
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  Speaker 5: the same premise. You want to have him in the building,
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  Speaker 5: you want to have him learn from the veteran. You
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  Speaker 5: want him to make all the mistakes on the practice field,
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  Speaker 5: so when he's given the ball, he feels comfortable. In
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  Speaker 5: the nat Football League and we can talk about the
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  Speaker 5: speed of.
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  Speaker 4: The game and how you may be prepared or whatever.
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  Speaker 5: The NFL is a different ball of wax than anything
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  Speaker 5: that you've experienced as a collegiate player, and the teams
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  Speaker 5: that you're seeing that kind of take a slow cook
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  Speaker 5: process when it comes to the quarterback and having more success.
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  Speaker 5: The other thing that you're seeing is because Baker Mayfield
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  Speaker 5: and Sam Donald are cast off very early in their careers,
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  Speaker 5: general managers will always give those guys two or three
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  Speaker 5: bites at the apple because if you were a first
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  Speaker 5: round pick, universally they viewed you as someone who had
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  Speaker 5: enough talent to deserve multiple chances to see if you
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  Speaker 5: can unlock it. New environment, new scheme, new coach, whatever
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  Speaker 5: it is. You get those second and third chances when
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  Speaker 5: you're a top pick.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, JPI, had somebody asked me the O today, Oh,
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  Speaker 6: Anthony Richardson, he's going to be done.
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  Speaker 1: He won't be.
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  Speaker 6: A chance, and maybe he might be a guy who
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  Speaker 6: sort of fits into this too. I have no idea
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  Speaker 6: what the cultu are going to do obviously, but he
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  Speaker 6: goes to a team after this season if they happen
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  Speaker 6: to do that through that route. Sobody says, yeah, we'll
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  Speaker 6: take them, We'll sit them for two years, and we'll
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  Speaker 6: let them because we can't. You say it's the Browns.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know who would be. But the Browns can say, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: there's no pressure here. None of our fans expect anything
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  Speaker 6: from this guy, so we can take our time with
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  Speaker 6: this guy, whereas in the Colts you couldn't. So it's uh,
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  Speaker 6: but I don't know if we're going to see much
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  Speaker 6: of a change bucket because I don't think most franchises
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  Speaker 6: have the patience to draft a guy early and then
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  Speaker 6: give them time. The ones that know what they're doing
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  Speaker 6: do and have the patience to tell their fans, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: we hear the noise, but you know, you go ahead
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  Speaker 6: and make your noise. We're going to do it the
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  Speaker 6: right way. It's hard, It's really hard. Yeah, it is hard,
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  Speaker 6: but it takes complete buy in.
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  Speaker 5: It takes buy in not only from the coach being
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  Speaker 5: able to do it, but everyone has to be in alignment,
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  Speaker 5: from top to bottom, ownership, front office, coaches. This is
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: the best player for us to take we need a
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: franchise quarterback. We're not going to play this franchise quarterback
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: into twenty twenty six. So I just need you to understand, Yes,
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: we use the top pick, but we're gonna ignore the
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: noise for everyone saying he has to get them to
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: the field and we're going to develop him the right way.
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: And if you do that and you're successful doing it
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: down the line, the owner saved millions on millions on
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: millions of dollars because he has a quarterback for the
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: next decade. You need to make sure that you're getting
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: the right guys and you need to have a plan
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: that really works. We're seeing too many young guys cycled
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: in and out of the starting lineup by this second year.
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: There's not enough time to full the evaluate if a
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: player could play or not.
• 17:30
  Speaker 6: JP remember the stink in Atlanta when they draft.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Oh no doubt. Yeah, people paying.
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: Them like they were idiots. And you know, when you
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: really look at how you do it, yeah, the approach
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: makes no sense.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: Two years from now and we'll find out right just
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: in Atlanta, you know what helps the quarterback really increase
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: their level of play. A guy named Justin Jefferson on
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: the outside right and a running game to go with it,
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: and other receivers who can play. Oh and maybe the
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: tight end's coming back this week too. When you have
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: those piece and offensive line that's really darn good for
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: the most part, they just had it Cam Robinson a
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: left tackle on an injury there. When you have Justin
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: Jefferson out there, you always have a chance bucket. It
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: feels like, what is it about Justin's game? And I mean,
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: what's is There's nothing lacking from their game?
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Is there?
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: No, there's nothing lacking for the game. And I think
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: the thing that is remarkable. Normally when you see a
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: guy who is as decorated as he is, he was
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: someone that came in the first round who was would
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: have all of the tools that.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: You look for.
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: I mean, he would be a top five or top
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: ten pick or whatever. Justin Jefferson is different because slender frame,
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: slight build. But what he is is a high level
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: alpha dog competitor who shows up in the biggest and
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: brightest moments. He's a terrific pass catcher, he has great
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: ball skills, outstanding right route runner. But beyond all of
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: those things, the one word that I was described Justin
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: Jefferson as clutch.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: When the game is on the line and they need
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: a play.
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: Justin Jefferson is going to make that plays the time
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: and time again in his young career.
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so hard to scout. Some team's passed on him twice.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: That's amazing, right, that it is?
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: It is, I leave it.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And he's going against the Jaguars defense that has
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: struggled certainly to say the least in the passing game
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: this year and giving up big plays. We just talked
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: about it, big plays, big moments, you know down the field.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: They give up seven plays at twenty or more yards
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: last week.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: The Jags did all right.
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: And the striking thing in their JP is all the
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: third and longs, third, long, That just it's become a
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: theme this week. I know, third and forever. Bucky wrote
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: it and has always well done. Scouts take this morning,
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: but it's it's, uh, I'm not sure or see anything
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: like it, the not only what it does to you
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: on the field, but the crushing gut punch of the moment.
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: To feel like twice in that game the other day,
• 19:56
  Speaker 6: and it's been a season long thing. You feel like, Okay,
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: they're gonna get up three, they played good defense, You're
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: third and long, Okay, they got out of it, and
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: then boom touchdown, Boom touchdown. Not only is it eight points,
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: but it's just the feeling that you did your job
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: and now it's gone like it's it's crushing. And to me,
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: the two things that define this season are those plays,
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: you know, not being able to get off the field
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: on third and long and then the slow starts. I mean, yeah,
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: those things. It's not hard to believe you're two and
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: seven when you're playing in those situations like that.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: Yeh. Look, it's a tough thing to talk about because.
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: In the offseason Ryan Nielsen talked about nothing cheap and
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: nothing deep, being able to have the awareness to keep
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: everything in front of the defense despite being a team
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: that leaned heavily into man to man. The thing that
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: is really frustrating to me when I watched the team,
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: I mean multiple times on third and forever, we talked
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: about forever being fifteen plus.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: They gave it up. The first one they give up
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: to Saquon Barkley.
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: They run an inside running play, he doesn't get touched
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: on a nineteen yard scamper into the end zone, which
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: is crazy to think about that.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: That should have been a field goal. And then this
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: is time to get off the field where you got
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: him backed up.
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: It's third and forever falls in twenty two and you
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: let him throw it over the top of the defense.
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: It's problematic. And the other part that is problematic about
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: that drive in particular, they started out on the nine
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: yard line. They have a ninety one yard drive where
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: they had three explosive plays. Saquon Barkley pops a big one,
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: Devonte Smith catches it deep over and then he seals.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: The deal with a touchdown over top.
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: To me, the Jags would never be what they could
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: be on defense until they eliminate the big plays.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: Just too many explosive plays for.
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: A team that talked about neutralizing the explosive plays all offseason.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: And the problem there is you've got to the point
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: where you you're not surprised.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: It's almost inevitable. Oh boy, they can play a good game.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: So something's coming.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: And the draw, frankly, a third and seventeen, third nineteen.
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: I hate to keep looking back, but third nineteen draw.
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: You're not trying to score, No, really, I mean you'd
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: like to score, but you're not calling that play in
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: the huddle thinking we're getting seven.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Here, We're going to get about six or seven.
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: That's found money for that team. So it's ah.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: And so the reaction on the sideline when it happened too,
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, they weren't expecting, they were surprised, jumping around
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: pretty cool.
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: And in fairness, I don't necessarily think the play that
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: DeVante Smith made, I'm not sure that that was as
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: much of a lapse as it was a great play.
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: So if you're trying to be fair, that's an NFL
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: player making a big time play.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: All right, Let's wrap up this Jaguars defense against the
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: Vikings offense discussion.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: With a big matchup this week.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Former Jaguars tackle Cam Robinson got a game ball last
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: week and his debut with the Minnesota Vikings, the first
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: game ball in the locker room on their website video
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: and all that for coming in on Wednesday and then
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: starting on Sunday and helping lead them to a victory
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: last week where they had to rally to get it
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: done on Sunday night against the Colts. So Cam Robinson
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: against Josh Heinz Allen Bucky, what's your scouting report with
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: this matchup.
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: Oh, this is the un where Josh Heines Allen has
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: a little book on Cam Robinson.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: He's going to attack him.
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: To think about it, Cam Robinson has a better supporting
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: cast around him, and so they can do some things
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: to make it easier for Cam to win his blocks.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: That can slide the protection to him.
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: He can overseet and make sure that he lures Josh
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: heines Allen inside. But I heard Doug talk about it
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: and he kind of seem nonchenline about Cam coming back like, yeah,
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: you know.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: Probably be a little weird for him.
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: No, no, no, Doug, I'm gonna tell you Cam Robinson
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: is going to be on level ten. It might be
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: the best game that we've seen for him because it's personal.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: He's coming back and everybody has that.
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: Emotion that they carry when you feel like you might
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: have been wrong by a team real or not, or
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: when you've been traded away. There's always some kind of
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: personal thing that you have that's gonna allow him to
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: play at a high emotional level.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: That battle should be fun to watch though, between he
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: and Josh hindz out.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: My thought on Cam and Cam I think you know,
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: I mean Cam JP, I think you know Cam better
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: than I do. You know the Bama guys. I know
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: you bonded a little bit with him over the years. Sure,
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: But my impression of Cam is that this game he
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: will play with his hair on, you know. And he's
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: the kind of guy who loves football, loves talking, loves
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: being in it enough that he'll play into that. My impression, too, though,
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: is once this is all over, meaning his career, I
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: think there'll be a fondness and a connection for Cam
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: with the Jaguars as a whole. I mean, I don't
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: think he's gonna in fifteen years hate the Jags, but
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: I think he'll have fun with this in the moment.
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: And you know, and it's hard to describe, but Cam
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: is one of the guys. He likes the money, don't
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: get me wrong, but he'd play football. He likes playing
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: football and likes being involved with it to talk and
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: likes interacting with other players on Twitter, likes being in it.
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: So I think I think he'll love this moment and
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: I expect him to play well.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when he is.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: In the past, we've seen it when he's had any
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: kind of extra motivation or need to, and he has
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: to crank it up. Then okay, he can go physically
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: move some people around. That's been at least in the
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: past around here. And you know, there were some questions.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: I think this off season, end of the season, does
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: he really have that fire anymore? And you know, I
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: think that's part of the reason why he might not
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: be around here right now. And I think he'd be
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: about to go prove that again. So yeah, you've gotta
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: get ready because it's gonna go. If it goes to ten,
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: he might go to eleven.
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: It's kind of what makes football fun, right, That's what
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: it's supposed to. This is what it's supposed to be.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: It'll be good competition and you know, they'll there'll be
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: some chatter back and forth and then they'll play and
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: then they'll shake hands with the end.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: That's cam.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: So you think I love JP, I love JP dot com.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: You are about this.
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: You know absolutely well that this is going to be
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: like one of those personal affairs and you talk about
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: there be some banner and all that. Uh, look, I
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: think it's going to be beyond that, just because of
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: the ending. And I know it hasn't been fully shared
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: or whatever, but I can tell you it was a
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: very contentious conversation UH that they had at that last
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: game that Cam was at UH.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: I think that carries over and whenever a player.
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: Never remember we all have big egos and so we
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: always feel like we've been wrong and we're always looking
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: for that one little nugget to prove people wrong. The
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: Jaguars have given Cam that nugget. I think he will
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: play at a higher level. And also remember this, he
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: would take on the culture of the Vikings. The Vikings
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: are winning, they have something to play for. He has
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: an opportunity to go into the postseason.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: And do some stuff.
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: I would expect to see the best that we've seen
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: from camp in a little while.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: And he's been the last couple of years, especially you know,
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: if you needed an edge on offense, he was the
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: guy that would grab another player's face mask and rip
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: the hell He got.
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: Ejected one time, Yes, in day one, he's done that.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: He's kind of been that guy and we haven't seen
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: that yet this year. So well, this week might be
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: the week. We'll see what happens. It's gonna be a
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: great matchup. We're back in a moment plenty ahead. We'll
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: flip it around and take a look at the Jaguars
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: offense against the Vikings defense that takes the football away
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• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Huddle up with Bucky Brooks.
• 27:46
  Speaker 8: We're running our base stuff. Yeah, we're just kind of
• 27:50
  Speaker 8: moving moving Bury when that happens. So you know, we'll
• 27:54
  Speaker 8: look at everything. We're gonna trust the coaches in the
• 27:56
  Speaker 8: plan they put together. So but yeah, we got to
• 27:59
  Speaker 8: continue to be great that we just got. We guys
• 28:02
  Speaker 8: improved our normal gone and distance huddle calls too, so
• 28:08
  Speaker 8: you can't just rely on that. We got to be
• 28:09
  Speaker 8: able to break the huddle call, different game plan plays, execute.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: Its Evan Ingram with John Ozer lurking behind him in
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: the locker room today, welcome back. It's huddle up with
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: Bucky Brooks, Jay Shadrick and John Oser and Jacksonville. Bucky
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: Brooks in Los Angeles and Evan Ingram with one hundred
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: and thirty nine receptions since twenty twenty three, second most
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: among all tight ends and eight most overall in the NFL,
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: and he's been okay since coming back from injury, twenty
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: four catches two hundred and eighteen receiving yards since coming
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: back in Week six. But hey, the Jaguars this week,
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: we already talked about the question mark at the quarterback position.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: That's obviously priority number one. We'll see what happens as
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: the week goes along with Trevor Lawrence and Mac Jones
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: and the reps and everything that goes into that. They're
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: going against the Vikings defense, Bucky. That is, they're the
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: number of the second highest blitz rate in the NFL.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: Bryan runs the show there on defense. They're not scared
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: to bring it a bunch of different ways. They take
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: the ball away second most in the NFL, most interceptions
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: in the league.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: You see it on your screen. The scoring defense, they don't.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: They allowed seventeen or fewer in five of their eight
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: games this year. So this is a really talented defense.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: But what makes them so talented, Bucky.
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: What makes them talented is Brian Flooryes is super aggressive
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: in terms of how he goes after the quarterback, but
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: he does it and what I call a safe fashion.
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: He has taken something that has been used like wildfire
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: at the collegiate level, and he has made it his
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: own at the NFL level. You were here Parkour football
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: people talk about what they call.
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: Them hot blitzes.
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: So what it is is a six or seven man pressure,
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: but you're playing zone behind it. The fear used to
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: be when you were bringing six or seven you would
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: have to play man demand. Well, what these guys are
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: doing is they're playing with their eyes on the quarterback.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: They're bringing pressure and.
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: So the quarterback has to get it off and then
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: they're reacting quick to the throw. But they're adding layers
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: to it defensively by not only blitzing like that. When
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: there they're bluffing and disguising and falling into these eight
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: man drops where it's a three man brush, it's eight
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: guys in coverage, and so the quarterback and play caller
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: are playing a guessing game the entire night, and it's unusual.
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: It's unlike anything that anybody else is doing. It is
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: going to test the patients, the discipline and the overall
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: awareness of the quarterback to deal with the defense that
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: likes to do this stuff.
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: And that can be exhausting for a quarterback. You have
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: to do that mentally. The whole game. I can remember
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: the US to cover the Colts back in the day. Yeah,
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: And I can remember there were games after they played
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: the Ravens, for example, where Peyton would talk about just
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: being tired mentally because it took so much thought every
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: play to trying to figure out what's going on. So
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: here's the question, is, Bucky, how do you combat it?
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: What's what do offenses do? I mean, it's a way
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: to beat everything. What's the key?
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: You gotta be on your p's and q's.
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: Man, you got to dialog to Teams that have had
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: success have found a way to kind of stay ahead
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: of the change. They've been able to run the football
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: at that. But I mean, it's a guessing game. It's
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: a bit of a shell game that Brian Floyd's likes
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: to utilize against the quarterback and the play caller, and
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: so you have to be able to get into it.
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: One of the things that is an old school cap
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: tactic against it is to play a little quicker and
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: with tempo. Now it doesn't mean that you're going no
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: huddle up tempo right away, but it could be as
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: simple as here, go play comes in, huddle up, get
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: out the huddle, line up, first sound, go don't allow
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: them to do a lot of that bluffing and disguising
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: by going quickly on first down early to then give
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: yourself a chance to play against more of their vanilla
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: looks as opposed to the exotic crazy stuff. Final point,
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: can't get in third and long situations. If you're in
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: third and seven plus, you're playing right into the hands
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: of that monster.
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: You gotta stay ahead of the chains. This will have.
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: To be the best play calling performance of Press, Taylor
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: and Doug that we've seen today because his defense is
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: that good.
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: I have a final question before we move on from
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: the Vikings. Yes, and this is me just covering one
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: team and not being in depth with the rest of
• 32:10
  Speaker 6: the league as much as I'd like to be, But Bucky,
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: to me, the Vikings are quietly a really consistent, really
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: good franchise. I would necessarily say they're Ravens, Steelers, Packers consistent,
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  Speaker 6: but they've been good for a while, even with different coaches,
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  Speaker 6: different personnel. What do they do right? Why are they
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  Speaker 6: able to be so consistent?
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  Speaker 5: Here's what I'll say about the Minnesota Vikings and why
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  Speaker 5: they've been able to get it right. One to head
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  Speaker 5: coach is really smart, really bright. Kevin O'Connell. Kevin O'Connell
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  Speaker 5: played in New England, was drafted by New England.
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  Speaker 4: He's taken dis and pieces of that.
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  Speaker 5: He's taken what he's learned from Sean McVay and those
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  Speaker 5: guys along the way.
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  Speaker 4: So he's really good.
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  Speaker 5: He written hired a really good coach and Brian Flores
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  Speaker 5: and the coaches are really good in terms of developing players,
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  Speaker 5: but really being on it when it comes to situational awareness.
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  Speaker 4: The organization is a plus when.
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  Speaker 5: You talk to people that work in the building, whether
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  Speaker 5: it's on the business side or the football side, a plus,
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  Speaker 5: first class and everything they do so they're able to
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  Speaker 5: retain good people because they treat them well. And so
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  Speaker 5: it's one of those environments that we can talk about
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  Speaker 5: the weather and challenges of bringing players up there, but
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  Speaker 5: because they treat their people in such a good manner,
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  Speaker 5: they don't want to go anywhere. And so when you
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  Speaker 5: have a happy environment, you have more production, more enthusiasm
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  Speaker 5: when it comes to performing.
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  Speaker 4: That's what you're getting when you get the Minnesota Vikings.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, they've been striking. They switched head coaches, yeah, and
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  Speaker 6: again haven't gotten to the Super Bowl, so I think
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  Speaker 6: a lot of people miss it. But they're a consistent
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  Speaker 6: and I do rankings each week and with like every
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  Speaker 6: week I'm putting them at for four or five, six
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  Speaker 6: years putting them at eight, and not really sure why
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  Speaker 6: they're that good, but they always wind up being there
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  Speaker 6: at the end and you look up in there and
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  Speaker 6: they won five in a row. So an impressive organization.
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  Speaker 3: They've had cousins for a little while, certainly before his
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  Speaker 3: move to Atlanta, and then now they've kind of fell
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  Speaker 3: into Darnold and he's playing well. After they drafted a
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  Speaker 3: quarterback or earlier this year got hurt in training camp.
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  Speaker 3: Here's a big question. I don't know how it's a
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  Speaker 3: little off topic. You mentioned Brian Flores, former head coach.
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  Speaker 3: You think he'll get a shot again Bucky.
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  Speaker 4: I think at some point he will.
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  Speaker 5: Now the lawsuit and all that kind of clouds everything.
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  Speaker 5: But let me know what I would say about Brian
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  Speaker 5: Flores is he made some missteps the first time around
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  Speaker 5: in Miami and that was related to relationships. In those things,
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  Speaker 5: I don't think you can question how well they played
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  Speaker 5: and how they performed offensively. He has to figure out
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  Speaker 5: how to find the right coordinator for what he wants
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  Speaker 5: because he went through a few offensive coordinators, but defensive defensively,
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  Speaker 5: they're one of the tops in the league. They gave
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  Speaker 5: you problems he coaches. I think he's learned from his
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  Speaker 5: problems that he had, particularly with two tongue, by lowering
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  Speaker 5: some of the other players there.
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  Speaker 4: He'll be a much better coach the second go around.
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  Speaker 5: But he might just be destined to be one of
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  Speaker 5: those great coordinators that we always talk about it. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: this team is like lights out. They're really connected offense defense,
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  Speaker 5: special teams in terms of playing confidend and re ball.
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  Speaker 5: I'll say it's one of the best situations that you
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  Speaker 5: can find where you have a former head coach as
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  Speaker 5: a defensive coordinator who gets the big picture that allows
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  Speaker 5: the offensive mind to head coach to do what he
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  Speaker 5: does really well, which is be the play caller and
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  Speaker 5: the overall leader.
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  Speaker 4: They really have it going on in Minnesota.
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  Speaker 3: All right, we'll come back with our final thoughts about
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  Speaker 3: this Vikings Jaguars matchup in week number ten.
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  Speaker 1: It is huddle up with bucking crumpts.
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  Speaker 4: That's the goal I'm doing ever that can to be
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  Speaker 4: out there.
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  Speaker 1: You know, and like it's in the past, I've gotten
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  Speaker 1: thinged up in the past.
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  Speaker 4: I've just tried to evering candy in the week, pre
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  Speaker 4: for myself to play.
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  Speaker 8: Sunday and just as much time as possible into that
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  Speaker 8: and getting healthy.
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  Speaker 4: So that's the way my mind is right now.
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  Speaker 3: That's the quarterback, Trevor Lawrence. We'll see how his status continues.
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  Speaker 1: This week.
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• 36:35
  Speaker 3: Tough stretch continues Vikings this week at the Lions, the
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: bye week, and then the Texans come to town. That's
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: just the nature of it this time of year. We
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: knew that this five game stretch was going to be
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: a challenge. Certainly is with the Vikings six and two,
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  Speaker 3: and they're right in the race in the toughest division
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: in football, the NFC North. The Lions lead the way there.
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  Speaker 3: Minnesota six and two, Green Bay six and three, Chicago
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  Speaker 3: four and four. So you know Minnesota is gonna be
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: locked in and ready and because they need every game
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  Speaker 3: they can get right now, Bucky, Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: This is this is interesting because that division is the
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  Speaker 5: best in bold and we just think about back to
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  Speaker 5: back weeks.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, just like I mean, this month.
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  Speaker 5: Was was was not ideal in terms of like facing
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  Speaker 5: all those teams. But when you think about the Green
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  Speaker 5: Bay Packers and then back to back weeks the Minnesota
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  Speaker 5: Vikings and the Detroit Lions, I mean, two of the
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  Speaker 5: best teams in football, this is a tough little stretch
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: and what you're dealing with they talk about the Black
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  Speaker 5: and Blue Division. The Jaguars are being exposed to the
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  Speaker 5: rough and rugged physicality that these teams played with, and
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  Speaker 5: so you got to get ready for it.
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  Speaker 4: It takes it up a notch.
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  Speaker 5: It reminds me of being with the Jaguars and playing
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: the old Pittsburgh Stillers teams.
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  Speaker 4: In the past.
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  Speaker 5: This is what it's like, and this is what it's
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: gonna be like the next two weeks because both of
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: those teams prefer to play pick football with their big
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  Speaker 5: boy pats on.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, what you worry about is Uh, you know, you
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  Speaker 6: had a couple of games in a row where you've
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  Speaker 6: really had to grind it out, play tough, haven't gotten
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  Speaker 6: the results you wanted, laid it all out, played to
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  Speaker 6: the last whistle if you will. You worry about how
• 38:20
  Speaker 6: long you can keep doing that when you don't get
• 38:23
  Speaker 6: the results. And you know, at some point, often when
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  Speaker 6: you're struggling, have a couple of fight, fight, fight, and
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  Speaker 6: then you have one where it goes.
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  Speaker 4: Off the rails.
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  Speaker 6: Uh, I hope. I'm hoping that doesn't happen, goes the
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  Speaker 6: other way. But that's what you sort of watch for
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: having seen situations like this is when it's just a yeah,
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: I can't do it again.
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  Speaker 8: Uh.
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  Speaker 6: Now I don't anticipate that because somebody actually asked me,
• 38:49
  Speaker 6: do you feel like they're quitting, giving up on Doug whatever?
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  Speaker 6: And I'm like, if you watch the last two games,
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  Speaker 6: you haven't seen that.
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  Speaker 1: No way.
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  Speaker 6: I found a silly question because I don't know. I
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: don't talk to players, but you watch these games last
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  Speaker 6: couple weeks. This is a team with heart, isn't even fight. Unfortunately,
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: fight doesn't matter if you don't win, So it's there.
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  Speaker 3: And with the injury bug, continuing. I mean at some
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: point that that attrition is gonna catch up.
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  Speaker 6: It's hard to have, thank you, and I have to
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: talk about the stamina, you know, can you keep We
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  Speaker 6: talked about it for the game. That's why I told
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  Speaker 6: him I was worried about against Green Bay. It's do
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  Speaker 6: you have the stamina to finish when it's really hard
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  Speaker 6: against a physical team and you're not in it that
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  Speaker 6: it's hard to fight through that. I think it's gonna
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  Speaker 6: be an issue again this or it's going to be
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  Speaker 6: a storyline to watch again on Sunday.
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  Speaker 5: But yes, I'm interested in storyline to watch. And you
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: talked about the competitive stamina and just being able to
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  Speaker 5: kind of deal with all the things that you have
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  Speaker 5: to deal with when you're.
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  Speaker 4: An elite team.
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  Speaker 5: Like one of the things that we talk about that
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  Speaker 5: what separates good from grading the league is the ability
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  Speaker 5: to show up each and every week and bring your
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  Speaker 5: A level performance. It's never done where you can bring
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: your A game each week. But the really good teams
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  Speaker 5: are able to play at a high level and even
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  Speaker 5: when they're a little off, they find another.
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  Speaker 4: Level to go to in a game to get a win.
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  Speaker 4: We're seeing that right now.
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  Speaker 5: With kan City, who we all feel like hasn't played
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  Speaker 5: their best game, but yet they sit at the top
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  Speaker 5: of the league undefeated.
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  Speaker 4: It's the same thing.
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  Speaker 5: That you look at when you look at Minnesota and
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  Speaker 5: Detroit and some of those other teams. It's one of
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: the things that the Jaguars need to learn once they
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  Speaker 5: start winning games, how to kind of put that together
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  Speaker 5: when you can run off six seven in a row
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  Speaker 5: despite whatever adversity you may be facing internally.
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  Speaker 3: All Right, that'll do it for the show today, Bucky,
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  Speaker 3: have a great week. We'll see you here at the
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  Speaker 3: Bank on Sunday.
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  Speaker 4: Man appreciate it should be fun.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, it's gonna be fun. That's Bucky Brooks in Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 3: Sean Oser. I'm JP Shattercker. Thanks to David Choe, Brent Reaver,
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  Speaker 3: Joe Fortunado, our entire Jaguars dot Com crew.
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