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NBA Playoff Reactions to series so far! NBA Hoop Grid w/ special guest! · The So-Called Sports Analysts

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  Speaker 1: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome back to another episode, episode number
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  Speaker 1: one oh six of the so called Sports Analysts. Today,
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  Speaker 1: here we got another guest. Of course, we got Josh here,
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  Speaker 1: but we got somebody else here on the pod. It's Ryan.
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead, introduce yourself.
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  Speaker 2: Yo, what's up, guys. I'm Ryan Rilla, just joining on
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  Speaker 2: this podcast because I know ball. You know you're gonna
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  Speaker 2: get into some fall knowledge here. We're gonna talk real ball.
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  Speaker 2: We know ball.
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  Speaker 1: That's all I have to say. Ba ba, How you doing? Josh?
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  Speaker 1: You do it? Josh?
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  Speaker 3: Actually, I'm actually pretty cooked right now. I was doing
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  Speaker 3: my notes for these pod, bro, and like I wrote
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  Speaker 3: paragraphs in my brain.
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  Speaker 2: Hurts right now, the shrenches.
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  Speaker 3: And then Dad, we did a pod this morning pretty early,
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  Speaker 3: and I didn't even wake up in time for that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm stiller tired.
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  Speaker 1: So so now you're admitting first morning.
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  Speaker 2: I thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Bryan. Okay. So it was probably like six thirty
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  Speaker 1: five we got on and then I think Brecon called
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  Speaker 1: Josh Hurst and I called them. We're like, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think he's answering, and then break and he's like, should
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  Speaker 1: we just start? I'm like, oh no, I think we
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  Speaker 1: should just be like, I think we just wait on
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  Speaker 1: this one. But nah, before we start, find find Josh
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  Speaker 1: likes sports. But we're gonna talk about right here. We
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  Speaker 1: didn't even talk about it as far as these playoff
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  Speaker 1: matchups and how they're going. So we're gonna start with
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  Speaker 1: the Milwaukee Bucks versus Indianapolis Pacers right here. So the
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  Speaker 1: Pacers are up two to zero, but over we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: start with you here, Ryan, What have you seen from
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  Speaker 1: this series so far?
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  Speaker 2: All right? So in this series, I just feel like
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  Speaker 2: the Pacers are too what I take from the series,
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  Speaker 2: they're too fast for this This Bucks team, like overall
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  Speaker 2: just too fast. What they don't have is a They
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  Speaker 2: don't have a honest stopper. No one has a honest stopper.
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  Speaker 2: He dropped thirty four and thirty six, I believe, and
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  Speaker 2: they can't stop him. But other than that, there's just
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  Speaker 2: no scoring going on for the Bucks. He had thirty
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  Speaker 2: thirty six game one starters had fourteen. You're not gonna
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  Speaker 2: win like that. It's just not a recipe for success.
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  Speaker 2: And then this is are just too fast. I believe
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  Speaker 2: I have them in six games. I respect for you, honest,
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  Speaker 2: out of respect for you, honest. So I don't think
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  Speaker 2: Dame coming back is going to help them at all.
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  Speaker 2: That's how I feel about it.
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  Speaker 1: So what you think the Bucks they take these two
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  Speaker 1: games here? Or do you think they they get game four,
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  Speaker 1: game five? What are you just thinking?
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  Speaker 2: Uh? I think they take they take game three, paces four,
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  Speaker 2: they take five, Pacers six. Honestly, I think it's gonna
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  Speaker 2: be in five.
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  Speaker 1: Ohka, I'm gonna go five.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go five.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, Josh, what have you seen so far?
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  Speaker 2: I see kind of the same things. I think.
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  Speaker 3: For me, I think the goal for the Indiana Pacers
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  Speaker 3: is They're gonna let Yannis do whatever he wants, but
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  Speaker 3: they're gonna make everyone else beat them. They're gonna force
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  Speaker 3: everyone to They're gonna double team Yiannis. They're gonna send
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  Speaker 3: multiple bodies at Yannis and then allow the other guys
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  Speaker 3: to get open to make wide open jump shots. And
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  Speaker 3: so far that's just not happening for the Milwaukee Bucks.
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  Speaker 3: We saw him in game one, the downhill play of
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  Speaker 3: uh Giannice and the kickouts.
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  Speaker 2: It just wasn't working.
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  Speaker 3: No one else is really providing anything offensively outside of
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  Speaker 3: Jannis with thirty six points and twelve rebounds. In game two,
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  Speaker 3: with a lot of the same things outside of Joannis,
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  Speaker 3: where he had thirty four points, eighteen rebounds and seven
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  Speaker 3: but you got a little bit of a life from
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  Speaker 3: Bobby Porter's junior with twenty eight points and twelve rebounds.
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  Speaker 3: That gave a little bit of life off the bench.
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  Speaker 3: But however, it still isn't enough. It's not enough provided
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  Speaker 3: from another option, from multiple options on this team. I
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  Speaker 3: think Johannis, we expected him to go scorch to Earth
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  Speaker 3: in some of these games. However, it just it just
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  Speaker 3: isn't gonna work. With no one else is stepping up
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  Speaker 3: and Bobby Porter's did in this game, I will say,
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  Speaker 3: and there was a lot of hope for Damian Lillard
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  Speaker 3: to step up, But I just think time away rust
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  Speaker 3: and then jumping straight into a playoff basketball games doesn't
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  Speaker 3: make it easy for them at all. I think he
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  Speaker 3: needs a couple of games to get to get going,
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  Speaker 3: and it's playing in the playoffs. There's just no time
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  Speaker 3: for that. So I just think the Milwaukee Bucks are
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  Speaker 3: pretty much trouble in paradise right now. And the thing
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  Speaker 3: that the Pacers are doing is what they did all
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  Speaker 3: season is they find the open man and create high
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  Speaker 3: percentage shots. And in the first game they went twenty
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  Speaker 3: eight assists, well fifty one percent from the field. Well
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  Speaker 3: in the second game thirty assists and forty eight percent
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  Speaker 3: from the field, So that what they're doing is just
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  Speaker 3: finding the wide open man and creating hygh percentage jump shots.
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  Speaker 3: And the Milwaukee Bucks really have no answers for it.
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  Speaker 3: And I think this is gonna be done in five.
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  Speaker 1: Let me make sure my MIC's on for a second.
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  Speaker 1: So I picked the Bucks in seven right here, And
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  Speaker 1: I'm still not giving up hope yet. I'm just waiting
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  Speaker 1: on this game. Three right here. But you guys have
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  Speaker 1: summed it up very perfectly right here, and just a
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  Speaker 1: random takeaway right here. Obviously I'm gonna get some more.
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  Speaker 1: But Andrew Nimhart, I don't know what it is when
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  Speaker 1: it comes to postseason. I know he's only been in
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  Speaker 1: the NBA for two years, but yeah, I know he's
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  Speaker 1: a playoff riser. As far as a role player, he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't turn into, know, like Jamal Murray or Jimmy Butler.
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  Speaker 1: But he steps up another three four points and gets
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  Speaker 1: another two to three two three assists like that, those
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  Speaker 1: last two buckets on Giannis right there, that three pointer
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  Speaker 1: to make it one twenty one to one thirteen. That
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  Speaker 1: was pretty much a difference maker right there. And I
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  Speaker 1: agree as far as Dame, there's only so much playing
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  Speaker 1: thirty eight minutes. He did have some spurts where he
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  Speaker 1: looked good eleven points in the first half, but other
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  Speaker 1: than that, Yeah, the sword legs and I just think that, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's another thing right there. And as far as they're traveling,
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  Speaker 1: I know it is close, but I think they set
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  Speaker 1: it up perfectly. Rick Carlisles, like we talked about, he's
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  Speaker 1: maybe not considered a great head coach, but he is
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  Speaker 1: a good head coach. I think it was smart how
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  Speaker 1: he made sure it was Giannis that was just a
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  Speaker 1: pure scorer in the first game, and in the second
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  Speaker 1: game they lost their rhythm. They weren't as much in rhythm.
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  Speaker 1: Knowing Damian Little is gonna come back and he's gonna
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  Speaker 1: take more isolation, so really takes all the other players
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  Speaker 1: out of the game. But I just still think that
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  Speaker 1: depending on game three, I want to see how game
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  Speaker 1: three Game three looks. I feel like they're getting a
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  Speaker 1: little bit closer right here. I kind of expected Indy
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  Speaker 1: Ay to win. I didn't expect Milwaukee to win the
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  Speaker 1: first game. I expected them to win the second. Or
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  Speaker 1: I expect them to win the first game but not
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  Speaker 1: the second game. But I think there's still a very
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  Speaker 1: good chance in this series, just because you have Giannis.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't know. I'm I'm kind of losing hope.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm just holding on to that last straw right there,
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  Speaker 1: just because.
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  Speaker 2: It's seven, it's in seven or you.
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's my that's my only choice. That's it's seven.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't see that happening. Bro.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well I picked Bucks in seven before the series
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  Speaker 1: so I'm just kicking. I'm stick.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going Pacers, Pacers in six.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, you did say pacers and six in the
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  Speaker 1: group chat. Yeah no, but I just I'm just giving
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  Speaker 1: that slim hope just because there's Giannis here. But just
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  Speaker 1: a quick segue right here. So say if the Bucks
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  Speaker 1: they lose this series and four or five, like you
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  Speaker 1: guys are saying the Buck the Bucks, they have no
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  Speaker 1: cap space, they have no assets, no nothing, would you
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  Speaker 1: explore the option of trading Giannis here?
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  Speaker 2: He's been talking about it. He has like he doesn't
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  Speaker 2: like say it, but like he'll like like he'll hint
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  Speaker 2: at it, like subtly, like in his press in his
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  Speaker 2: presses and stuff. I just right right, did I Bro?
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  Speaker 2: Did I lag? Yeah? You like like a yeah I could,
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  Speaker 2: but yeah, he hints at it subtly stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: I think he always talks about, like other players going
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  Speaker 2: to bigger markets, so maybe he wants to go to
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  Speaker 2: a bigger market.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, though, Josh.
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  Speaker 3: I can definitely see them looking to shop around Giannis
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  Speaker 3: to other teams, and I just think, you you the
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  Speaker 3: asking price is going to be very high from the
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  Speaker 3: Milwaukee Bucks. I just don't see how many teams can
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  Speaker 3: really offer that. I think maybe you look at a
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  Speaker 3: couple of teams like the Oklahoma City Thunder Chicago.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think Chicago Bulls have the draft
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  Speaker 2: capital to do it anymore.
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  Speaker 1: We do, we do, I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think so.
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  Speaker 1: Bro.
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  Speaker 2: I think you don't think give up Kobe White.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we didn't already talked about it. He
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  Speaker 3: knows that the sacrifice you would have to make. But
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  Speaker 3: for me, I think the Thunder, the Spurs. Who else
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  Speaker 3: has some hydrat I can even see maybe the Washington
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  Speaker 3: Portland Trouble Rock Washington Wizards, the Rockets a good But
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  Speaker 3: also I think a team that's also a piece of way.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe the Portland trail Blazers make a big move and
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  Speaker 3: sit off and they just need that one scorer. They
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  Speaker 3: already have the pieces all the way around, all around,
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  Speaker 3: they just need that one dominant scorer. Maybe like Milwaukee's
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  Speaker 3: interested in sending you Honest to another team on the
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  Speaker 3: on the Western Conference side, that they don't have to
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  Speaker 3: deal with him in the East.
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  Speaker 2: But also.
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  Speaker 3: I just go ahead, and but also hypothetical, also you
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  Speaker 3: keep you Honest, but you get rid of Bobby Porters,
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  Speaker 3: you trade Damian Lillard, you you getrid of all these
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  Speaker 3: other expendable assets on around him that may that may
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  Speaker 3: that are an aging, that are aging, and on contracts
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  Speaker 3: that are kind of like you probably want to get
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  Speaker 3: off of, and you bring in the draft capital, younger
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  Speaker 3: players and to build around Giannis once again, because Giannis
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  Speaker 3: is still relatively young. He's not an old player by
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  Speaker 3: any means. He's still I think he's like twenty eight
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  Speaker 3: twenty nine years old right now and still still completely
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  Speaker 3: in his prime. He should any other season, he would
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  Speaker 3: win MVP. But I don't know if the Milwaukee Bucks
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  Speaker 3: just want to blow it.
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  Speaker 2: Up in the VP.
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  Speaker 1: I know exactly why he said that, because somebody just
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  Speaker 1: popped popped up in the chat on Twitch.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: But okay, before I talk about another guy or another
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  Speaker 1: team that Giannie could go to, like like you're saying,
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  Speaker 1: as far as trading away Damian, trade away Bobby Portis,
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  Speaker 1: I think what jan last seven games is is as
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  Speaker 1: far as if you build three and D players around him,
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  Speaker 1: because I talked about before Josh, as far as how
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  Speaker 1: he could facilitate the entire offense. Now he's that good
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  Speaker 1: of a playmaker. Maybe not the Luca, the Tyreez, the Lebron,
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  Speaker 1: but he's up to kind of like a tier below. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's good enough. So if you just surround him with
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  Speaker 1: three and the players, and maybe you find somebody off
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  Speaker 1: the bench that could be a shot creator, then possibly.
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  Speaker 1: But another team that's kind of interesting right here is
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  Speaker 1: a Brooklyn Nets. They have all the they have all
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  Speaker 1: the draft capital, and they have layers. Yeah, so I
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't know the exact package that they would they would
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  Speaker 1: give up, but they have a bunch of assets with
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  Speaker 1: with them, and they got they're slowly starting to get
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  Speaker 1: their first round picks back, So that would just be
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  Speaker 1: an interesting destination. I'm trying to think of big markets
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  Speaker 1: because if you're honest here, no only Bradley Bill and
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  Speaker 1: Lebron do.
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  Speaker 3: Only no trade clause bro my gosh, Yeah, dude, Oh
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  Speaker 3: I would if I was you honest, I would honestly
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  Speaker 3: hate to go to Brooklyn. I've been completely because you
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  Speaker 3: gotta think the players that you would want to go with.
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  Speaker 3: You want to go be around maybe a Nick Claxon,
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  Speaker 3: You only maybe want to play with Cameron Johnson, Zaire Williams,
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  Speaker 3: some of some of these guys.
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  Speaker 2: That they have in Thomas, but those guys are.
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  Speaker 3: All gonna get thrown in the package for so I
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  Speaker 3: just I just think you're gonna go to a depleted
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  Speaker 3: team on the other side now than than what the
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  Speaker 3: Brooklyn Nets already had before. So it's not I I
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  Speaker 3: don't think that would be a good match. I think
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  Speaker 3: you want to go to a team that already has
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  Speaker 3: an established star or an established group of young, solid
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  Speaker 3: players that even if they give up a little bit,
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  Speaker 3: they still have a good core around him.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmm, Yeah, I see that. But if you're the
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  Speaker 1: Brooklyn Nets, I could definitely see them.
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  Speaker 3: And you see that Jack that was a block bro
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  Speaker 3: that was not on the way down protection here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah no, But I just think that would be a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of players that would be lining up to go
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  Speaker 1: play with Giannis. I would have known. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: the exact free agency class, but it's just something I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to brand line.
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  Speaker 2: To go to Milwaukee.
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  Speaker 1: Well, a bigger market, bigger market, That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: Brooklyn you got Kevin Durant, you got Kyrie Irvan, you got.
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  Speaker 3: San Antonio Baby and Winby together. Imagine the defensive masterpieces.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to imagine that.
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  Speaker 2: Damn. I mean, I would, as much as I hate
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  Speaker 2: to do it. Since so hand sin devils sin so.
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  Speaker 1: Hand, that's where you cross the line. You know, I
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  Speaker 1: love on Bro. You know Stephan Castle would be.
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  Speaker 2: Gone, he would won't be gone. Yeah, Windy would be gone.
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  Speaker 1: Imagine it's all It's all the Spurs they get for Victor.
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  Speaker 1: W Oh my goodness. How would you feel about that, Josh?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not going to stop being a Spurs fan.
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  Speaker 3: I'd be pretty pissed about it. But like, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I just have to deal with it. I guess, like
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  Speaker 3: I could, i'd be there.
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  Speaker 2: You go up there, yeah, traded following him. I can't
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  Speaker 2: do it, Bro, I got all of the jerseys.
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: I got the I got the twenty three Lakers jerseys.
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  Speaker 1: I was immediately.
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  Speaker 2: By honest jerseys.
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  Speaker 1: Just line up to Buyerrann this jersey. But all right,
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  Speaker 1: this next one, we're gonna We're gonna go to the
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  Speaker 1: Detroit Pistons in the New York Knicks here. Okay, So
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  Speaker 1: the first game right here, the Pistons, they were up
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  Speaker 1: ninety or ninety eight to what was it, eighty eighty eight,
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  Speaker 1: something like that, and they went on now, yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: then they went on a twenty one oh run to
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  Speaker 1: pretty much in that game right here, and then in
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  Speaker 1: this second game right here, the Detroit Pistons, they controlled
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  Speaker 1: it from the get go. It did get close at
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  Speaker 1: the very end, but they held on to it. So, Josh,
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  Speaker 1: what are your takeaways from this series so far?
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  Speaker 2: Yo? In Game one?
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  Speaker 3: In Game one, in that fourth quarter, I thought the Knicks.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't expect the Knicks to be fully out of it,
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  Speaker 3: but to go on the run that they did to
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  Speaker 3: end that game. Forty to forty to twenty one was
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  Speaker 3: the was the score of the fourth quarter. And the
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  Speaker 3: Knicks completely dominated the Detroit Pistons. It definitely looked like
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  Speaker 3: they were the younger squad and that one and they are,
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  Speaker 3: and the Knicks just completely took over. You can tell
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  Speaker 3: the the what you can tell what experience was there,
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  Speaker 3: and they even forced they forced the Pistons into six
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  Speaker 3: turnovers in this. But I also think in that game,
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  Speaker 3: you saw what the Knicks can do kind of at
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  Speaker 3: their best a little bit, especially against a good defensive
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  Speaker 3: team like the Detroit Pistons. We saw Kat kind of
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  Speaker 3: step up on the defensive end of the ball with
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  Speaker 3: four stills and two blocks, something you don't really see
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  Speaker 3: from Karl Anthony Towns too often. And then we saw
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  Speaker 3: Og and Anuby kind of do the same thing with
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  Speaker 3: five stills and two blocks. So I just think they
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  Speaker 3: really shot over defensively to in crunch time when it
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  Speaker 3: matter at the most. However, in game two, with the
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  Speaker 3: offensive upside that Og and Kat provided in that game
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  Speaker 3: one was really non existent in game two, outside of
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  Speaker 3: Jalen Brunson's dropping the thirty seven that he did, the
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  Speaker 3: Knicks really had nobody creating any opportunities and Kat both
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  Speaker 3: had ten points and mcklbrigs went eight for eighteen and
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  Speaker 3: three eleven from the from three. That's just not going
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  Speaker 3: to work out for the New York Makes if they
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: want to beat the defensive team like a Detroit Pistons,
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: who in this game, Kate Cunningham in game one did
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: not have a good showing at all, but in game
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: two he stepped up and scored thirty three points. And
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: when he plays like that, I just think that Troit
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: Pistons have a major opportunity to win when the Knicks
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: don't show up on offense.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you there, Josh. The Knicks. In
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: Game one, they were just down and then they showed
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: their experience against this youthful geame Jalen Brunson doing Jalen
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: Brunson things. I have the Knicks in six because of
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson. He's He's the reason why I think they
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: won that game. Another reason is Kat did. He had
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: like twenty four points that game, stepped up defensively, was
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: able to do what he needed to do. And I
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: think the reason they lost Game two was of Kat.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: He was non existent ten points. What are you doing?
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: Second option? Like, what what are you supposed to do?
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at David.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at David's comment ignored my bad, bye bad, ignor.
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: David, We'll see what this fell, saying No, but but
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: I think Kat is he's he's the X factor.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: He has to do good for them to win. Like
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: the Pissons defense is pretty good and scoring ten points
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: isn't gonna isn't gonna do it for you. If you
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: want to win, win this series, win this game, you
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: gotta step up. And kid Kid went crazy tonight crazy
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: thirty the twelve two, two steals and three assists. That's
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: that's what you want. From your I'm your number one,
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: your number one scoring option. He's just out there. He
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: did whatever he wanted to be honest o. Jananobi locking
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: up like possession or two, but he did what he
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: wanted and that's why they won. They're able to do
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: that lock cat up. Also, I think X factors for
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: the Pistons in this series is Shrewder and Tobias Harris.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: They have the most experience on this team, and they're
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: able to exploit their experience and show or I guess teach,
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: I guess show the Pistons the young group. Yeah, just
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: show them this experience and they Shrewder helped out tonight
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: with twenty points, and he's a really good point guard,
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: complimentary to come off the bench. You can play him
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: with kid without Kid, he's underrated. And Tobias Harris pretty
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: good tonight. Fifteen and thirteen went ballistic in Game one,
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: but yeah, well so I'll say this.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: So game one, it had all the writing on the
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: wall for the Pistons having perfect upset. They shot like
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: crazy from three damn near fifty percent and they held
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: the Knicks pretty much in check. But after these first
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: two games, even though the Knicks took away with Game one.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: The Pistons have played as a better team in these
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: first two games. There were a spurts where the Knicks
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: played better than the Pistons, and that's why the series
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: is one to one. But the Pistons they did their job.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: They took one game at home court, so now everything's
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: rolling for them, and just their defense is one of
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: the best in the league. And they match up perfectly
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: with the New York Knicks because you could throw bodies
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: on bodies on bodies against Jaleen Brunton. You could throw
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Kid Cunningham, Asar Thompson, Dennis Schroeder. There's these different guys
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: that you could throw at him. So no matter what,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: there's gonna be physicality with them. And I think in Detroit, Okay,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: I just think this is just a natural part of it.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: The home teams are gonna get their calls, their wage,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: it's just a natural part of it, just because they're
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: allowed to play more physical or they're going to get
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: more of their fouls. We're kind of even even seeing
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: it right now with the Tim Woolves and the Lakers
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: right now. It's just it's just part of it. That's
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: why you have home court advantage, So everything's in favor
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: of the Pistons right now. I don't think Kid Cunningham
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: will shoot this crazy or I mean, be this efficient
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: in game two. I don't think he'll be this efficient
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: because eleven for twenty one, he was on a mission
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: in the first half. I think he had damn near
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: twenty something points. So it's going to be very interesting
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: in this game three to where it's going. See, OgH
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: was on a majority of the time though, So that's
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: that's why it's kind of confusing, And it seems like
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Kid's yeah, I get you. It's it's like he could
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: stop them in certain moments, but if you have them
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: the entire game, Kid's gonna figure him out. That's one thing.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: I'm surprised Kate in his first playoff series. Oh, he's
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: developing very very quick.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Sorry, no, you're.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Good, You're good. I know this game. It's starting to
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: get a little bit interesting right here. Nine point game.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: So okay, so I had knicks in six. I'm gonna
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: go knicks and seven now, I'm gonna go Knicks and
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: seven now because I think the Pistons they're gonna win
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: another game in Detroit. Then I see him winning game six,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: and I'll give the more experienced team game seven.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: So I think I still have six.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: I think this series can go to seven. I think
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: the way that both these teams are playing each other
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: hard is coming down to the wire each time. I
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: just think both teams are going back and forth. I
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: don't know, maybe the Pistons can step up a little
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: bit more. That first game definitely look like they just
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: weren't comfortable there in the fourth quarter, but in Game
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: two they really flipped the switch. I just think if
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: there's too much inconsistent inconsistencies from both teams on offense,
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: because so far we've seen that in games won in
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: game two, I can see this going to seven.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Mm. Yeah, so also bad you go ahead, you're good
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: at this.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: It was tonight's game. The Knicks had four shots in
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: the in the late to take the lead for and
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: they missed off four. It was it's not what you want.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: I think it was like two Brunton maybe three Brunton
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: one bridges, and they were good looks too.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I just think, Okay, I don't know how you
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: guys feel about this. I just feel like there's only
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: so much Jaylen Brunson could do. We even said this
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: last year, or at least Josh and I said this
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: last year. I just think that there are two Jalen
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Brunton dependent even though they have Karnthon towns, even though
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: they have Michel Bridges there. I just think if you
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: have in the entire fourth quarter, they were damn near.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: It was damn near pick and roll Iso every single
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: time with Jalen Brunson, and in late in the game
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: with two three minutes left, he's he's tired. He's tired,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: so he has nothing like that.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: He doesn't let cat work. Did Nico let Nico Harrison
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: let Brunson walk?
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: And Chris tops he Wait, Nico didn't get there till
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: the till Jenleen Brunstall was gone. He was only there
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: for two years.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: Okay, I just wonder, Yeah, no, no, like this is
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: a terrible jam Well okay, okay, I'm not trying to I'm.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Not trying to defend Nico Harrison here, but obviously Luca
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: is the worst thing you could possibly do. But before
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: last year, he made great moves. Daniel Gafford, Washington, Yeah,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: that's why they made to.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: Even the move that they made is good, Like the
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: move that like I see where he's coming from in
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: the defensive standpoint of building a basketball team and having
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: like multiple bigs with Derek Lively, Daniel Gafford and Anthony
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: Davis and Kyrier hailing the ball, but it's Luka doncs bro.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Yes, No, I think people people are acting like a
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: D isn't a dog though, Like, yeah, it's like the
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: eight he's still scrub, Like I get that, but like
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: eighties not a scrub. Yeah.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: I think eighty is gonna be under undervalued in this trade.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: I think I was trying to think of another one.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: I think if you were trading, if you're trading Pelicans
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: a D for this, like if he was on the Lakers,
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: that age yeah, okay, like I understand the trade, but
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: like just the age thirty one years old just kind
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: of like, I don't know, thirty one year old.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Is kind of like and then Inrey prone, Inrey prone too,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: that doesn't prone, No, No, But all right, I think
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: these two we're gonna let's go and move on to
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: these two series. I'm gonna say these two series because
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: they're kind of quicker to talk about the Oklahoma City
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Thunder and the Cleveland Cavaliers and Miami. He I'll let
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: you guys pick whichever one you want to break down.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: So Bryan, go ahead, Yeah, go ahead?
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: All I got for this series? Just like for this series,
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: just foresit this series Grizzlies, Like yeah, genuinely, bro, I'm
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: not kidding, like forfeit, Like look up in the real book,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: is there is there a rule like look it up?
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Like forfeit? Please? This horrible basketball. I was telling my family,
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: like how made me mad? They they're airing it on
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: TNT at six thirty and not the Bucks game, Like
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: you don't want to watch this slaughter? Like no one,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: I don't at least like I don't watch a good game.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: No, I'm right with there. I'm right there.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Like they're the the Grizzlies are, They're in. They're not
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: playing good. The falloff is crazy from going number two
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: in the West to firing your head coach and dropping
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: into the play in like just forfeit, honestly, the Thunder
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: or forcing them to make so many turnovers they look
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: like a like a w REC team, like my two
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: K rec team. We're probably better, to be honest, but
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: like they just are turning it over insane in the Thunder,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: they're just pointing it in from wherever they want, three
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: maybe dunk, it doesn't matter. The Thunder are doing whatever
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: they want with this team like a rag doll.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's just crazy. The Grizzlies, they are a
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: forty eight win team and the Thunder, like you're saying,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: they're making them look like they won twenty games in
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: the season. They just look that bad. But the Thunder again,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: with more physicality and obviously being the way more talented team,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: just they're applying the pressure on the Grizzlies and even
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Josh Texan earlier, it looks like they don't trust Job
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: to run the offense, and.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: I don't trust him.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, question for you guys here, So you
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: look around the Western Conference and you look at your core.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Everybody kind of has a core. Like the Lakers they
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: have Lebron Lebron, Luca Austin Reeves, Timberwolves, do you have
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: you have Aunt, you have Julius Randall.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Part of the core. I think it's just Anthony Edwards. Well,
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: there's just like you have to consider him like a collector.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Group of guys. I think it, but like okay, okay,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: let me, let me put it like this, Okay, Jared
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Jackson Junior, Desmond Bane, John Moran, would you take their court? Obviously,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: not over the Thunder? Would you take it over the Rockets?
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: So maybe friend Singoon and just like overall over all Thompson?
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, over like their best three players, because that's the
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Grizzlies best three players. Would you take it over the Rockets?
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: All they do is score that three? Yeah? He can't
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: really you.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Would take the Grizzlies court over the Rockets?
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, oh, I think I think Jaron
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Jackson Junior being over Singoon.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I'm and Thompson.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: I'm taking Jared Jackson over Singoon?
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: But what about.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: Im and Thompson? Okay, if I break it down like that,
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: I'll go to the Rockets court. But it's I don't
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: think it's a margin. I don't think it's a wide margin.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, let me just go down the list.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: The Lakers, No Lakers, Luca and Lebron. No, I mean
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: you told so much, the Clipper anybody else?
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: No, I'm not the vintage the Timberwolves.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah good no? Wait? No, who to be and to
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: be at rand is he aunt? Rudy Gobert and and who.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Is Rudy Gobert Randall. That's what I would consider.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: I guess yeah, I'd go timb Rules over then.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Okay, the Warriors we're just talking about right now. We're
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: just talking about right now, Steph.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: No, I'm going Jimmy Butler and Jimmy they're different and
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: Draymond they still have two more seasons together.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Would you take it over the Dallas Mavericks No? Would
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: you take it healthy?
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: With the Healthy? I would take them.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: I would take them over the Sacramento Kings. I just
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: think the Sacramento Kings just have a lot of bodies
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: rather than really any real president together. At least at
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: least with Desmond Bane and Desmond Bane and Jared Jackson Junior.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Even Jah, you're gonna get some defense.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, what about the Portland Trailblazers. No, would you take
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: him move three three for trailer?
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: I don't honestly, Yeah, I'm taking them over to the Portland
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: because Portland at least with Jarring Jackson Junior, and they
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: offer some star quality that the Portland Traiblazers don't have.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Blazers don't have a star, a set star.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Yea, what is it, Denny? It would be it would
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: be Denny scoot.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Money, There's Simons's, there's Donovan Clinging, there's Sharp.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: The pel Would you take him over the Pelicans?
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, stay on the court.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: There's on the court.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: If Zion stays on the court, Pelican, I'm standing, but
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: he doesn't.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: So like basically, like the point I'm getting at, it's
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: probably bottom ten, if not worse. This Grizzlies court. Just
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: the conference, Yeah, just in the Western Conference. So they
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: need to have some upgrades here. But all right, this
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: next one right here, so or did y'all want to
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: just focus in on this game right here before we
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: get into any other series. There's about three forty left.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, But you.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: Also, I think the difference in that in that Timberwolves
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: in the Thunder series, I mean Timberwolves is you got
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: me talking thinking about the Timberlves and the Grizzlies and
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: and the Grizzlies and Thunder series is definitely the second
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: chance opportunity, the hustle plays that the Thunder are making
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: as compared to the Grizzlies.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: The Thunder are playing like like they're the team that's down.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think there's two glaring plays and even
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: in this last game alone, the one where Alex Cruso
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: got to steal dove for it out of bounds and
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: threw it in where Isaiah Hartenstein went to the ground,
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: grab it and secured it. And then while on the
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: other side, Isaiah Joe just out hustled two big men
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: from the Memphis Grizzlies got to steal shot at three
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: made it. I just think those two type those type
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: of plays just kind of just show how the Thunder
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: are playing as compared to the Grizzlies, and so with
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: a lot of fight that the Grizzlies just aren't putting
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: up against the Memphis Grids against the Oklahoma City Thunder.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I agree with you one hundred percent. And
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: let's let's go and talk about the Calves and Heat.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: I know it's only been one game played, but I
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: think it pretty much tells everything. Like just just give
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: another example, the Cavaliers are favored by twelve and a
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: half points here against the Miami Heat, and it's on
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: NBA TV. That should tell you everything. So an you
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: takeaways from this first game here.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: I just think maybe with the Cleveland Cavaliers as compared
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: to the Miami Heat, I mean, the Miami Heat is
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: top top two. BAM and Tyler Harrow definitely definitely showed
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: up early on. I mean Tyler Harrow later later in
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: that second half only scored four points. But with Donovan Mitchell,
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: Jared Allen, Darius Garland, they all showed up in this game.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: They they all definitely. Donovan Mitchell thirty points and with
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: four stills. I just don't he showed up where he
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: needed when he needs to. I think we expected this too.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: I think what we were talking about last year, what
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: were we talking about where we were saying Donovan something.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: I was like, No, Donovan has another level he can
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: go to. Donovan Mitchell has a Yeah, I remember I
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: was talking about it in one of the topics we
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: were discussing. But Donovan Mitchell has another level and we
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: saw it first as the Indiana Pacers last year in
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: the playoffs. I just guarantee you in this playoff, Donovan
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: Mitchell's gonna go to a whole nother level and he's
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: gonna become that dominant scorer that we know he can be.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: And he showed it me one right off HM and
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: then even Darius Garland, and this one is offering something
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: he didn't offer last year, and that's a score, a score,
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: a secondary scoring option with twenty seven points. So I
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: think Cleveland Cavaliers are clicking on all cylinders right now,
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: from top to bottom, and right now, I just don't
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: think Miami Heat have that much enough depth to keep
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: up with them.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, have the same thing, just when you have Donovan Mitchell,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: when you have a big four like that Mitchell, Garland Mobley,
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: Alan Mobley didn't even do anything, had nine points, seven boards. Like,
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: there's not enough star power on the Heat to beat them.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: And Ty Jerome going for twin dog. He's a cave
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: cave at heart. I hate him, but he beat my
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: My Raiders, but it's whatever, my Red Raiders, but he
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: went crazy twenty eight, went five for eight from three,
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: ten for fifteen. That's what you want from a bench play. Yeah,
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: I guess you want that from a bitch player. But
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: like they just they don't have enough star power. When
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: you have, all you have is bam hero old Andrew
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Wiggins who gives you fourteen points and shoots five for eleven. No, like,
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: you're not gonna beat this, this deep Caves team that
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: kennyat Atkinson has developed to be great and be good
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: on defense and still are on offense. I just don't
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: see them going anywhere. I see Caves in four just
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: don't have enough star power to beat this loaded team,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: well coached team as well.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think that, like you're saying, the Calves
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: are just too much. And I think, if anything, the
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: best punts that would be thrown is game one, Veris
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: to Miami, is versus the or versus the Calves would
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: be that that specific game. And it was kind of
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: close for a little bit, like the third quarter. Yeah,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: the third quarter. Then the Calves they finally just started
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: getting their rhythm and they were pretty much a week
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: and a half off. They're resting their starters in I
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: think they're gonna get Yeah, exactly. So just Ty Jerome
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: one of the most efficient players in the league. I'm
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: just saying, I'm not gonna say why, but most efficient,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: one of the most efficient players in the league. But yeah, no,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: I just think, yeah, yeah, I guess that's just Lebron
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: right there. No, but I think I'm gonna switch it
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: to Calves in four. So I know you said Calves,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: and yeah, I know you said Calves in five. Josh,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: are you switching or staying with it.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: I think they can pull off one game still. I
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: think I'm gonna go Captain five still.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So that's pretty much the one seas right here.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: I want to kind of get to the Lakers and
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Timbowolves because there's two seventeen left. I know that they're
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: they're up eleven right now, but we could kind of
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: segue into this series. So if you guys, if one
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: of you guys just want to talk about what y'all
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: seen from this game so far, then we'll kind of
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: go for the breakdown of the series.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: I think from this game right here, we're seeing a lot.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: I mean, Luca's doing his thing. No matter what he
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: did is thing game one, he wasn't the problem necessarily.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: Let me go to my my lakersos. In game one,
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: Lucas really stepped up to the plate. He showed why
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: he's he's, in my opinion, the second best player on
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: the planet. He had twelve for twenty two to thirty
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: seven points. But outside of him, no one stepped up
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: for consistent offense for the Los Angeles Lakers, not even Lebron.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: Lebron went eight for eighteen, one for five, nineteen points,
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: five rebounds, three assists. That's a mediocre Lebron James game.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: That's just something he does not do when he's Ooh, dude,
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: these things are Austin Reeves has missed Lebron on two loops. Yeah, no, no,
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: but yeah, outside of Luca last game before this, Oh,
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: good blog, Rue, Sorry, hold on, I'm getting distracted.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you're you're good. Luca against nas Reid,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: one thirty left, ten o'clock. Who step back, step back.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Oh that's a charge. Yep, that's a charge. Nice, Reeves.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: No, but and then what we saw from game one
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: from the Timberwolds, we obviously knew that it wasn't gonna
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: be able to be kept up, and we're seeing it
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: in this game where Timberwls shot over fifty percent from
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: the field and fifty percent from three. That's just not
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: gonna happen again. While also getting awesome bench out from
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: nas Reed and Dante Divinsions with No scoring twenty three
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: points and Dante Divinchenzo was scoring nine points but also
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: filling up the stat sheet with assists, threebounds. Defensively, and honestly,
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: you're not gonna get another JD McDaniel's game where he
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: goes nine eleven for thirteen from the field, twenty five
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: points and nine nine rebound is something he can do.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: But E love it from thirteen from the field, that's
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: an anomaly. I just I just think that the Minnesota
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: Timberwlves played out of their mind in that game one.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: Not even Anthony Edwards who was talking all that ish,
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: he really didn't play that great in game one. I
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: think it's a lot of a lot of a lot
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: of big plays that he made. Eight for twenty two
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: though eight for twenty two. I just it's just not
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: going to be able to keep up consistently, especially playing
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: against a team with Lebron James and Luka Dauncins and
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: keeping up this high rate of efficiency is just unrealistic.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel the same way they went. They went
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: scorched earth from three, like they were not missing nothing,
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: They shot fifty percent. That's not gonna happen every game
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: twenty one for forty two, Like they're not gonna do
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: that every game. McDaniels played insane. Me and Josh talked
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: about it on Sunday, like Jade, that's not Jade McDaniels
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: talking about everyone's talking about like he all, he's so good.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: He's still good, like one game, Like he's just a
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: defensive guy who gets you some boards. Stuff like that. Also,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Ant going eight for twenty two and them winning, Like
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: why is Luca hold on? It's Luca.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Every time he scores, yell at the rep and not
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: like another player, like he just looks at the thing.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Bro, he has to do that. He did that every
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: he This game is pretty much a wrap right here.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah no, but go ahead, Ryan, go ahead, Ryan.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: They held the timber was eighty five.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: It's the Lakers defense showed up today.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, Like that's what they lacked in Game one.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: When I was watching it, I just felt like they
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: were lazy getting to the ball. They weren't doing they
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: weren't doing nothing, just letting them do whatever they wanted.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: It showed a made Ant look like he was the
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: best playmaker in the world. Nine assists. That's a high
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: for him, career high or yeah, career high. He doesn't
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: pass like that. They were just being lazy on defense.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: They were even allowing offense rebounds like Devin Genzo like
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: and it just looks sloppy. It wasn't something like it's
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: not who the Lakers are. But when they play like
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: they did tonight, they lock in and they're actually able
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: to play defense and they focus on their task. They
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: do this, They hold teams that score a good amount
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: of points to eighty five points and they beat them
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: by nine. Like that's what they're supposed to do. They
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: match the physicality, and they didn't. They didn't let them
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: do what they wanted this game. Also, they're not gonna
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: shoot like crazy, like I said, Like, they didn't shoot
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: very good this game. The Timberwolves didn't shoot very good
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: and Luca did his thing. Lebron chimed in this game
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: unlike last game, how Josh said, only nineteen points. But yeah,
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: I like this this game from them a lot much more.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: They were able to match physicality with the Timberwolves and
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: just shows who they really are, because that game one
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: that's not who the Lakers are. JJ Reddick had to
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: do something to him.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, just going off your last point right there,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: just the Lakers matching the physicality of the Timberwolves. That
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: was the biggest thing right there. And in this game
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: from the very first quarter you showed because it was
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: thirty four to fifteen, and I just think that. I
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: just think that if the Lakers they could consistently do this,
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: which I know they could do this, and it all
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: starts with the head of the snake, not Luka Doncic,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: it's Lebron James. Lebron James. He is the best defensive
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: player for this team, and he's like the free safety.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: He's the captain of this defense right here. And he
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: I know there's Jackson Hayes, I know there's other guys
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: that crash the glass. I know Luca is a great
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: rebounder or but Lebron is the most important rebounder and
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: defender on this team. And not necessarily he needs to
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: chip in twenty points necessarily every single time what he
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: did tonight. But it's more as far as rebounding in defense,
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Austin reives Luka Doncic. They could carry the offensive load
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: if they have to. And I just think that. So
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: what amazes me more is that twenty percent from three
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: point shooting the Lakers in the first game and twenty
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: percent today. That's going to eventually change. The Lakers are
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: going to start hitting their threes, whether it's game three,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: game four, whatever is from this point forward. But I
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: just think that if the Lakers they're engaged against the Timberwolves,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: which they have a tendency to do that. They did
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: that in the regular season. They kept going up and down,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: up and down, they had their spurts. If they stayed engaged,
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: then they'll beat the Timberwolves in five. In all honesty,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: they will beat the Timberwolves in five if if they
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: stay engaged. That's the biggest thing. And another thing Anthony Edwards, Josh,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember me telling you this.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Anthony edwards playmaking is the most important swing factor in
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: this series. If he could be a great pass, of
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: which which there's times where he looks.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: He was one, yeah in game one.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: But it's weird because Anthony Edwards he'll look great in
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: some games and other games he'll look like he's back
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: to a rookie as far as when making off the
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: pick and roll when they blitz him. So it's just
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: what are we gonna get with Anthony Edwards on a
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: consistent basis. And maybe that was a mixture of the
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Lakers physicality kind of getting into it this game right here,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: maybe that bothered him. But I also think, yeah, I also.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: Think that the Lakers are gonnad, that the Timberls are
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: gonna have to make a decision when it comes to
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: Rudy Gobert. I think what we saw in this game too,
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: was that Luka Doncic was targeting Rudy Gobert every possession
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: that he had the ball. They were forcing the mismatches,
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: they were forcing the switches with Rudy Gobert onto Luka
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: Doncic and just letting him go to work. And they're
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: exploiting that weakness in the Timberwolves offense where Rudy Gobert
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: can guard out to the perimeter and allowing free open
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: buckets for Luka Doncics, or even allowing him to get
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: another guy open against a mixmatch with a bigger body
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: against a smaller body. And I just think the Timberwolves
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: are gonna have to make a decision whether nas Reid
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: is gonna have to come off and guard Luca for
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: those switches. But right now, I just I just think, Uh,
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: Rudy Gobert's was getting targeted by Luka Doncics every possession.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's nothing you can do about it. Like
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Luca loves loves bullying Rudy Gobert. You saw it in
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: last season or last playoffs, bro hit a game winner
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: over him, Like if he can, if he can mismatch
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: if Like that's what they want. That's what the Lakers
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: are going to try to do this whole series. They're
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: gonna try to mismatch Hunt. They're going to try to
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: get Luke under Rudy. They're gonna try to get Lebron
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: on the Mike Conley and like Nikhil Walker Alexander I
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: believe his name. Yeah, but that's that's how that's their key.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: I believe to win this win this series, they gotta
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: mismatch Hunt because the timber Wolves have a good personnel
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: match up against his team.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, I just think another thing that played
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: a big factor right here is that they were able
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: to play Mike Conley off the floor this game. If
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: you're able to play Mike Conley off the floor, not
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: only does it take away another guy who could get
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: creation for the offense outside of Anthony Edwards, but he
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: unlocks ready to go beart offensively because he's the only
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: other guy that really knows how to get Rudy Gobert going.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: And also we have to talk about it Nasred having
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: three fouls, Jada McDaniel having three fouls. You can credit
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: that to Wait what.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: Also had three?
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: Zo did have three fouls.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: Early early in the first half.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: And I just think that, yes, it was a mixture
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: of the Lakers' intensity as far as in the first half,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: but I don't think that's gonna happen in Minnesota. So
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, you know what, I'll still stick with
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: Lakers in five.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Right here, I think that I'm still staying right there.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Also, Ryan, you staying the.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Same, maybe like Lakers in six seven.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't you try to make a TikTok
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: at it here. I know you.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: You make a TikTok get here.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: You're beating courage by David in the chat right now,
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: you're beating Current. I know you.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: I guess not really, I'm not, but that's how I see.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: I just don't think. I don't know. I want them
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: to win five, but realistically I'll say six. That's what
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: I had originally. Six.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, anything else I want to talk about in
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: this series before we get on to these next two
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: these next two series right here, we can move on actually,
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: before we get on to these last two Western Conference teams.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about this last season Conference one right here,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: the Celtics and Magic, which I guess the only storyline
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: in this one is Jason Tatum hurt his wrists and
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: he's doubtful for two. Yeah, he's he's doubtful for game two.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: So what do y'all think about that?
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: To be honest, I don't think I'm really too concerned
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: about I think Jason Tatum's a really obviously the most
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: important piece for the Boston Celtics and their success. However,
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: in this last game, we saw Derek White go for
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: thirty seven from twelve from the three point, Payton Pritchard's
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: nineteen points off the bench, off the bench, and Jase
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: Taalum only scored seventeen points in this last game, and
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: Jalen Brown added sixteen points, which we know he's dealing
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: with that knee issue, so he's only he's only starting
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: to get healthier. So and this was even with Paula
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: ben Cheryl scoring thirty six points and eleven rebounds and
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: Franz scoring twenty three. So they played their absolute probably
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: but Franz could do a little bit better. But Paulo
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: paid played what he could probably do at his best
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: and it still wasn't enough because the debt that the
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: Celtics have with Derek White, with Payton Pritchard, and when
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: we've seen many times where a star has been missing
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: and that they're gonna have to deal with that in
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: this next game without Jason Tatum. Derek White tends to
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: step up in these big time situations and paying Pritchard
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: and him can just really go off at any moment
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: based off their efficient shooting.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I might have to go with Judge right on
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: that one. Uh, I don't. It doesn't bother me much,
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: although I do. I do love the magic. I do
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: love the how do I block? How do I block?
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: I love their I do love their defensive scheme, Like,
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: I really like that about them. I think a big
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: missing piece might be underrated, but Jalen Suggs that dude
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: is a menace absolute minute. But I don't think JT
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: being out changes the game there. Like Josh said, Derek
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: White win for thirty. Their death is insane from their rotation.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: It's just like who can stop the Celtics. Like, I
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: don't really know. They're just too good. They're from top
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: to bottom shooters. Everywhere average the most threes in the league. Like,
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: I don't see the Magic beating them. It was close,
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: to be honest, in the first half, and then they
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: just they took advantage of the Magic not having any scores.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: Just lock them up, did what they needed to do,
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: you know, That's why the scores one of three eighty
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: six just locked up, scored what they needed to score
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: to win the game. And yeah, Paulo played really good
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: and so Franz did all right, but that's their only scores.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: And when when you try to let everyone else score,
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: just let them do what they want, it's not you're
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: gonna beat the Magic. They don't have no solidified scores
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: or they have no shooters they need.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I I agree with you one hundred percent.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: And I just think that, Yeah, Jason Tatum being out,
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: even if he's out the rest of the series, which
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: I hope it's not that serious, but the looks of
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: how he felt, maybe it's a spraining wrist something like that,
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: and it's a shooting hand, so maybe co affect him
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: in later on. Yeah, but remember Yo without Yok has
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: dealt with that last yokis dealt with that last year
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: against the Timberwolves or even before the season. So I
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: just think that it might be a swing factor. I
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: know Jason Tatum's three point shooting last year wasn't great,
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: but I feel like they're gonna need it this year
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: down the road, not even necessarily Nicks Pistons, but whether
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: it's the Pacers, whether it's the Caves, where it's the bus. Yeah,
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: I just think whoever it is.
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: I thinks and Caves, they're gonna need Jason Tatum at
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: his best.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think so. Yeah, Pacers, those four games,
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: even though it was a sweep, all four games were
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: close and recent and well recent and playing the last
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: two or was it was it just the last week.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: We also didn't have Benedict didn't Yeah.
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: Well, also you got to think last year too, I
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: forgot who the Pacers were, missing Tyre's Halliburton in the playoffs.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: The Pacers got swept, but every game they lost to
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: the Boston Celtics last year in the in the Western
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: and the Eastern Conference finals was very close. Yea yeah,
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: and now it came down just a solid three point shooting,
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: and that was without Benedict Mathering and without Tyre's Halliburton.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, any other team in the East is scrubbs.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah no, And all right, before we get are our
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: last two series right here, I just want to say,
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: just because Magic defense is going to make the score
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: look a lot closer in these games, especially if Jason
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: Tatum's out, but they're really not going to be close
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: games because they can't generate enough offense just in general,
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: even if Paula goes to that.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: To add to that, this season, I believe they held
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: the the Celtics to the least three pointers they've shot
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: this season. They I think they beat them twice, two
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: or three times, and they held them to the least
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: three pointers they've shot this season. If if you can
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: hold the Celtics to minimal three pointers, you'll be good.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: But they just don't have scorers Balo and Franz are
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: I don't know. You just can't really win with them.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: Okay, just random right here. If you're in free agency
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: or if you're the Magic who do you try to
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: trade for in the offseason because you need I feel
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: like Franz is not a good enough seconds shooters. Did
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: you say, Kevin.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: Hopefully explain that?
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: Explain that, well, Kevin Durant is gonna be available for trade,
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: and he's probably gonna want to go to a team
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: that he commediately still be in playoff contention with, and
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: I think their Landa Magic would offer that. I'm sure
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: you would probably have to give up either Franz or
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: or another or another. They're not giving up by the means,
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: but there's you're gonna have to have a couple of
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: pieces that you have built up there. But I think
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: adding that that that number one scoring option, with Paulo's upside,
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: and plus Kevin Durant is a willing defender, they still
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: have a good defensive court, I think that would probably
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: be almost a match made in heaven for Kevin Durant.
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: It's kind of take you back to the old Oklahoma
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: City thunder days a little bit, not not necessarily to
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: the old to the to the Thunder, to the Thunder
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: with James Harden and Russell Westbrook, with the Thunder with
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: only Russell Westbrook, where everyone around them was really just
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: a three, three and D player, with Andre Rogerson, Thablozephalosha
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: and a couple of these other guys that were that
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: were able to just play defense and kind of get
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: wide open shots.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: So I just barely found out. Okay, okay, random, I
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: just barely found out you could show you could show
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: when people on the chat, you can show it in
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: the stream. I barely figure that out. Maybe when when
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: Damy pulled up the wimby thing. So I just barely
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: figure that out. That's that's pretty cool.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: Only do the cool comments, Yeah, I.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: Only do the cool comments. Yeah no, but no, But
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: all right, so.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: That's how do you feel about that? Take about that?
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: I think yes, okay, okay, I'll just say this.
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, if the Magic want to make a move
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: to be a continder, they're gonna have to do it
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: this offseason. Like I feel like they're they're just sitting on,
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: sitting on their thumbs right now.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: That's but I feel like speed up, you speed up
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: the Magic's uh contending because franzis get better. You have
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: other guys like Anthony Black, you have Cole Anthony, these
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: guys who are like pieces surrounding pieces, young pieces.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: They're not scores. They're never gonna be.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: I would like to see a guard next to Apollo.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: I would I would really love to see a guard
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: next Apollo. I don't know who would be.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm gonna be available for Young.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: I would like Tray Young next Apollo, I think because
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: they have enough defensive Yeah, I think the defensive resources
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: they have around there, I know they're going to lose
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: become available.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: I hate kind of like how Tyers Jones went to
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: the the Suns. That's what I'm thinking, Like he needs
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: a guard, like like it's not the biggest name or
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: anything like that, but like they give him a they
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: get a guard that's viable, you know what I mean. Yeah,
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: like it didn't help the Suns that much, but like
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: it was there.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I get you. Yeah, I don't know. I'm
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: trying to think of somebody else I could Tray Young.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: There's gonna be somebody else that pops up.
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: The only name that at the point guard position that
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: I think may become available.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: But I would really.
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: Take us take a swing, take a swing on trading
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: for but he's gonna miss all next season. Never mind,
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: that wouldn't even work either. I was gonna say to
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: John ty Murray and hoping he pans out and gets
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: healthy and gets back to being where he was at before.
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: But that was and that was yeah, and he would
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: he would still offer you a great the probably one
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: of the best defensive options you could get at the
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: point guard position. He loved to storing a Lonzo Lonzo,
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: but injuries also the same. I feel, yeah Lonzo wasn't injured, Bro,
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: he'd be I think he would.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: Be Steph Curry.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: He would would too much.
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: I know, I know Mizimbo was a dog bro back
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: dro he would go so in debt with the two
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: K two like he would have put them on the rosters,
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: like really put in like the drafts and simulate them
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: exactly how he wanted.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: Like it was like he put time into those videos. Bro.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, Hey, he's a goat of him?
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: What is bro? He's the goat of what if him?
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: Did you ever fourth quarter? Did he do it?
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: If? He's a lot well.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: But not like exactly like spot On, like just Kawhi.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: I don't think I think it's I think he did one.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: What if Kawhi never got hurt? I think he did
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: what do you know?
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: What were you going to say? What are you gonna say?
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: Right? Do you think the Warriors dynasty would be a
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: thing if did not get hurt?
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: Yes, Josh, I need you to be on.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think he would I think we would
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: have won that series.
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: No, you gotta think. You gotta think in that series.
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: In that series, kaw Leonard and Tony Parker both got hurt.
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: They weren't there. And then we still had we still
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: in that series, we still had Kawhi Leonard and Marcus
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: Allers both in their d Johntay Murray on the come up,
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: and then we even had he was.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: He was he would eventually develop it. He became the
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: starter the.
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: Year after ye and then he ended up and he
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: ended up becoming All second team All Defense at that time.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: You know what, let me let me just go back.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: Don't think maybe one or two.
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: But and then even in even in that season, we
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: had sixty seven wins. Bro like we were there like
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: it was just and we were on defeated at home.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if doesn't pull, we were on defeated on the road.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: We were un defeated on the road. That's what we were.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: We were underfeed at and we were on defeated on
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: the road.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: Let me let me go back to this right here,
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Let me let me just go No, I know,
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: I know, sadly, sadly, no.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: Freaking it was sixteen Spurs. I think.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: Let me let me go back to this right here.
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, fifteen twenty sixteen San Antonio Spurs. Yeah, it
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: was a fourteen fifteen season, right, No, mm hmmm.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: So that when he had Kawhi Leonard and Palga Saw
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: he was there. Jonathan Simmons. Somehow he always ends up
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: making the pot every like two three episodes Jonathan Simmons.
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: But at that time, Jonathan Simmons was a dog on
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: the sp He got paid like you can. I mean,
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: you're gonna look at his his like career in hindsight,
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: but on the Spurs, his on the spis.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was up.
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: There, even off the bench with like a Sean Livingston.
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: If I being completely honest, there's a reason why he
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: got paid the way he did. David West off the
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: bench was kind of like, I'm he's not LaMarcus Aldridge,
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: but he came in. But he came yes, and Barsa
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: was still there bro, Like Kevin Martin. I remember we
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: traded for Kevin Martin and Andre Miller mid season to shore
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: up the point guard and shooting guard position off the bench,
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: and Kevin Martin averaged twenty three points BRO that season
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: before Worriam Minnesota, Like.
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: I just I genuinely believe they wouldn't be a dynasty.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: Like why I asked because I just wanted to say that,
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: like they wouldn't.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: And then even after they would have.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: Even after this, Danny Green was still one of the
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: best three and D players at the twenty Green still
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: he still was there until Kawhi Leond cried like a
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: little baby and took our boy with him.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: So it was just like, no, okay, no, the Spurs, yes,
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: they might have one game one, but it might have
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: gone seven zero. Yeah, bro, the Warriors, they were going
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: to win the series. No, the Warriors would have won
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: the series. They would have won that series.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: And they would have won the size.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: Bro, they would have won the next one. I don't
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: care if they didn't have the size. You have Steph
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: Curry and you have Kevin Durant there, and you had
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: Draymond Green. That it wasn't there Kevin Kevin Durant, he
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: was already there in twenty seventeen. Yes, he was fifteen.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: I got hurt, No, he got he got hurt Game
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: one of the Western Conference Finals, he got her Game
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: one of the Western No.
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: No, no, yeah, that was the seventy three win season.
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: That was a seventy three win season. We're still ended
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: up losing the championship.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: Look watch when no, because twenty sixteen, that's when the
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: thunder blew a three to one lead. That's when the
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: thunder blew a three one lead to the Warriors. Right there,
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. Kevin Durant was already on the Warriors the
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: following year, and that's when they were up almost twenty
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: points in the third quarter. Because I'm looking at the
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: game score right, I could, I could literally show you
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: this right now. I will share my screen right.
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: And I miss I misdid it. I miss said the
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: question because I thought it was prior to the KD.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: There's no way.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: Look watch, I'll show this right now because Kawhi Leonard
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: he only played twenty three minutes in this game because
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: that's when he got hurt. And then you go down
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: to the Warriors right here, you go down to the
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: Warriors right here in this game, Steph Curry, Klay Thompson,
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, Draymond Green, Zaza Paculia.
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: So so then I still think it's the same result.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: No, No, they would have won too, if I do,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: I truly want the same result. I don't think they
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: even took a step backwards, because even when they switched
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: David West, they brought in David Lee, and David Lee
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: did the exact same things off the bench.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: Let me see how much the Spurs right, two.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: One, two, and we still won twenty sixty one games
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: that year. We went from sixty seven to sixty one.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: Hoh, do way. Let me let me do some quick math,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: real quick.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: Wait, how many they had two by then? No, they
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: won in fifteenth, fourteen fifteen.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they won in fourteen fifteen, they won in fourteen one,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: in fifteen sixteen.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: No, we won in twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen. No, he's
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: talking about oh Warriors, Yeah, Warriors.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's talking about the Warriors. Okay, I guess
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: I just can't do math right here. So in the
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: first part of the game, first quarter, Spurs were up
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: thirty to sixteen. Then the next quarter Spurs were up
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: thirty or in the second quarter thirty two to twenty six.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: Then so what is that gap right there? That's that's
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: fourteen plus another six, that's twenty points. Then the Warriors
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: outscoring by eleven. That's when Kawhi gets hurt in the
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: third quarter, and then the Warriors outscoreing by eleven again.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: So yes, the Spurs might have one Game one, they
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: might have pulled off an upset, but you gotta realize
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: the Warriors they swept everybody in twenty seventeen. They swept everybody.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: That's one of their greatest in history. They're up there
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: with the ninety seven ninety eight Bulls right there. What
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: are we talking about here? This is crazy.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: But even in this series, even in this series, Tony
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: Parker still ended up getting hurt too, Like he didn't
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: play the majority of the series, so they lost both
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: Kawhi Leonard and Tony Parker.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, again, I'm saying the Spurs might have won
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: Game one. I'm giving you, I'm giving you that, But
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: after that, I'm telling you, I don't know.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: I had the same amount of bodies to throw at
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: the that that no one resides the Cavaliers vintage Kawhi.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: Who's stopping bro The Cavaliers got swept that series or
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: in the finals that that following that following series they
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: got swept and also got.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: Back and Kevin Love were dead, like what do you
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: want them to do.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: No, twenty seventeen, they were there. Twenty seventeen, Kyrie and
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: Kevin Love they were there. Oh no, they won one game,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: the Cavs won.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: Now Kyrie and Kevin Love.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no. Twenty seventeen, Kyrie and Kevin
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: Love were there. Then Kyrie left the following year, twenty eighteen.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: That's that's when twenty eighteen he went on the bron run.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: I think your timeline's off on that one.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: No, twenty seventeen. That was twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, or
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: I mean twenty fourteen. Twenty fifteen, Kyrie was out, Josh,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: Kyrie was out. I promise you, I promise you. I
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: just I don't know how I came on this video
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: of twenty eighteen Bron. But twenty eight Team Bron that's
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: when Kyrie went to the Celtics, and that's when he
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: went Game seven versus the Celtics. That's when Kyrie was
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: hurt that series. But the year before twenty seventeen, that's
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: when the Warriors they swept everybody and then in the
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: finals they lost one game. I think it was game
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: Game three or Game four or something like that. Then
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: they closed it out Game five. I prom I promise you,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: I'm not lying to Look. Watch, let me go to
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: the finals right here, let me let me go twenty seventeen.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty fifteen Finals to.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: Hurt, twenty seventeen Caz versus Warriors win in doubt. Go
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: to basketball Reference.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: The way it set up stot mean because thinking basketball.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: Shout out, yeah, yeah, thinking basketball. Yeah.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: Look watch yeah, because that's when Kevin Durant he went crazy.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: Look watch, I'll share my screen right here.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you, Oh hypothetical though, since I just saw
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: the name Kevin Love, all right, where does Bro agree?
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: Cleveland Kevin Love, so Minnesota Kevin Love.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: Bro?
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: Bro was so good at basketball, like he was like like,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: Bro would get thirty rebounds and drop thirty points from
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: three on the other side on you, Bro, No.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: He was insane, Bro, I remember that.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: Wait, what was the question again? My bad? I forgot.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: I completely forgot. It was kind of od I you know,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: I just.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: Know we're trying to figure out if Kevin Love were
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: and them played it.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: Look twenty seventeen, Look at this game one, Warriors Game two,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: Warriors Game three, Warriors Game four. Kyrie Irving forty points
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: in game four. This is twenty seventeen.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: Okay, Ben Bruce that and that makes sense. I was
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: just proving seeing if they played this series.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, twenty fifteen. Yeah, would bring this fourteen?
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: Would you bring this one up?
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: Because now this hurts our Lebron conversation, Like I'm tired, like, Bro,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: whoa whoa.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: Whoa whoa whoa whoa.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: No, it does not hurt our Lebron conversation.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: Here.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: Wait, why is it still sharing the screen still?
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: They're gonna use it against us?
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: Bro? Is it still sharing the screen on y'alls in?
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: Talk about the Warriors and Rockets? Bro?
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we need still talk about the Is it
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: sharing the screen on y'alls in? Or no? Did it
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: stop it?
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: But no more?
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I'm just making sure I guess my computer's
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah. Well, the Clippers and Nuggets for last,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: because Josh and I had disagreements. Yeah yeah, because Josh
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: and I had disagreements on this side. All right, it's
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: gonna be two v warm. But let's get to the Rockets.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: Warriors right here where I had to pay Ryan ten
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: bucks here for game one. But Rockets are favored by
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: three and a half in Game two, which it is,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: well today, technically it's twelve o'clock, so I'll let Ryan go.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: First year. What have you seen from this series so far?
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: All right, So in the in the first game, you know,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: just it was a great game, honestly, and you just
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: saw Steph Curry Beans Curry Man. You saw you could
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: see him and Thompson shaking his head. Definite had one
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: of those threes. He's just shaking his head, like had
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: an ideal with this dude. I'm like one of the
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: best defenders in the league and I still can't drag
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: him and he's like unk to me, Like it's crazy
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: how good Steph is, and it should. It really showed
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: their experience, like against this young core. And I feel
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: like most people see this game Warriors in four, but
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: I see it in Warriors in like six, due to
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: the fact that the Rockets are just too young and
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: too fast, too defensive. They're just they're gonna wear down
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: this Warriors team and just wear and tear. They're gonna
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: break them apart. Warriors are so old, they're just gonna
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: they're gonna wear them down. They're too fast, They're literally
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: complete opposite.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: I feel like for me, the Rockets offensively were never able.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: I think Ry Ryan's lagging.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: Bro is Ry Ryan lagoh okay, I can, but.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: The Rockets offensively were never really able to get anything
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: going outside of Alfred sing Gooon. I think the rest
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: of the starters went eleven to fifty two, with Jalen
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: Green alone going through fifteen and Freederan Vliet four for nineteen.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: The Rockets also dominate the boards, pulling in fifty two
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: compared to the Warriors thirty six. However, it doesn't matter
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: if you're not moving in transition or capitalizing on second
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: chance opportunities. We can see the game plan was leaning
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: towards with the idea to not allow Stephen Curry to
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: handle the basketball, but the Warriors, like I think they
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: plan exactly for this tactic. They were willing to allow
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: Brandon Podziemski and and Jimmy Butler be the primary ball handlers,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: with Stephen Curry playing off ball and freelancing almost the
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: entire game. This was the difference I think that leaned
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: into the warriors favor because Jimmy Butler also added what
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: I believe to be the Warriors missing piece that they
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: haven't had in the last couple of playoffs, and that
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: was a number two option who can create the opportunities
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: and someone can take the pressure off of Stephen Curry.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: If I believe that the Warriors and he in this
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: game alone, Jimmy Butler himself had twenty five points, seven rebounds,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: and six assists on ten for nine shooting and five
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: steal so he offers also something on the defensive side
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: of the basketball. If the Warriors can add more boards
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: to their total, I can see the seering and ending
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: faster than we all expected, and probably around game six,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: in game or game five.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: So I'm still gonna I forgot my pick exactly here.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to look through.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: You said Warrior. We said Warriors in seven.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: No, we said Warriors in six. We said.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: I can see the Warriors in six. But honestly, if
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: they continue playing like this, I think the Warriors may
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: end it in five. I just don't see the Rockets
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: having someone that can consistently answer Stephan Curry off ball.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: And what they were doing even in game was even
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: when Stephen Curry had Am and Tompson on him, they
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: were purposely setting up pick plays where Brandon Potziemski or
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: someone else will take on Aman Thompson and then Stephan
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: Craig gets switched to the weaker matchup.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: Well, okay, I'll say this, the odds of Jalen Green
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: and Fred Van Vliet going seven for thirty four.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: I think it's pretty high.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: I don't think it could happen two more times or
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: three more times in a row consecutive lead for a
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: sweep for a sweep, I don't. I don't necessarily think either.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: But j Green the acted account for no reason. Then
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: Bro got that dog in. He's like, I just think that,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: what did you deactivated for?
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: He should have just kept kept that shit open. Yeah, no, Bro,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: I just think that. Okay, quick takeaways from here. Obviously,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: Steph Curry and Jimmy Butler, they're the best players on
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: the court by far, no matter when when they're in
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: the game and playoff. Jimmy he's there, and he was
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: definitely aggressive in this game right here, whenever he needed
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: to slow down the game, whenever the Rockets starting to
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: come back, then Jimmy Butler just decided, all right, I'm
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: gonna going to the post, I'm going of the elbow
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: wherever he went. Then try to drive for that step
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: back or that that nice float or that nice just
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: ten twelve shot right there, or get to the rack.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: And I just think that that's important right there, just
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: slowing down the game. And I think one thing that
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: I took away that was very interesting right here is
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: that the the two big lineup for the Rockets, it
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: was actually very successful in this in the second half.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: And I just think that that's why that's gonna win
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: him a couple of games. Yeah, Yeah, I agree with you, Ryan.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna go six games. Yeah, and I
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: think there's gonna be a couple of games where everybody's
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: gonna be hidden their threes. They went six for twenty
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: nine from three, So I just don't think. I don't
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: think no, I don't necessarily think they're gonna outshoot the worlds.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna be cold cold completely. So
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna still say Warriors and six here, and I
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: feel very confident about that. I think Rockets they win
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: game two, and I say Warriors they win game three,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: Game four, Rockets win Game five back in Houston. Then
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: game six, I say Warriors they close it out.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: Well, I even highlighted that the that the Rockets completely
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: dominated the boards against the Warriors or fitting two to
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: thirty six. But it doesn't matter if the only offense
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: you're securing consistently is out for in singu I I
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: and he still he had a great game, but everyone else,
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: even with their second chance opportunities, were not hitting the mark.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: And I just feel like with a young basketball team,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: this is what you're gonna get. Uh, they're they're very
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: good defensively, but but when you play against experience, especially
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: having Jimmy Butler, the Rockets versus Jimmy Butler with the
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: worst two and one and right now there's three and
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: one adding adding another tally to that marker. So with
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: the Warriors with Jimmy Butler have dominated those Houston Rockets.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: And this is even with Jemmy This even with Stephen
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: Curry struggling before against the Rockets while Jimmy Butler is
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: on the team.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, having Jimmy Butler so so big for the Warriors,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: Like it's major major improvements to playmaking, allows people to
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: allows for the non Curry minutes to not for the
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: team to flourish as a whole.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: And I even think with Brandon pot Ziemsky as well.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: He's not He's not Klay Thompsons. He's not as good
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: as Klay Thompson. I'm not saying this, but when it
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: comes to handling the basketball and be able to play,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: make and create, he is better at Klay Thompson than that.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: So he's also able to be another ball handler in
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: another the third option when it comes to handling the
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: basketball when either Jimmy Butler don't doesn't have the ball
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: and he's playing off ball or Stephan Curry's playing off ball,
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: Brandon pot Zemsky can make these decisions.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: So, okay, I just found a quick start right here.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: So Jalen Green, whenever they scored thirty points a Houston
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: or whenever Jalen Green scores thirty points for the Houston Rockets,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: they're thirteen to one and that feat won't do it. Slippers, Lakers, Calves.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: So I'm just saying, if Jalen Green happens to get
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: going in a couple of these games, I don't think
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: they're winning this series by any by any meaning, I
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: don't think they're winning any of these series. I just
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: think that Jalen Green for a couple of these games
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: is gonna just have effective games.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: But I don't think I think they're gonna.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: I think they're I think they're gonna put Gary pay
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: and or or Jimmy Buller on him, and they're just
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: gonna shut them.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: Down really quick. One game, maybe one. I can see
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: him maybe max twenty four points.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: So you don't think he's gonna have any thirty point
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: game at all.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: I think this is I think Alfred Stangoon's gonna They're
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: gonna attack the post more often than they are gonna
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: kick it outside. I think Jabari Smith for that has
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: to be utilized more on the offensive end.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: And definitely, like.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: You said that, the two man line, the two big
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: man lineup has to be where they move to kind
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: of secure the win.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: For this one.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: I just think what the Warriors have to offer to
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 3: the to the guards that the Houston Rockets present is
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: that they can match them in speed.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, I could kind of see that. I
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: just think that the Rockets are definitely the inexperienced team here,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: but it's gonna be a tough six seven games. Damn it,
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: I it again, damn it, damn All right, let's let's
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: go and get into this last series right here, the
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: Denver Nuggets versus the Los Angeles Tippers right here, with
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: Game one came down to the wire. Game two came
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: down to the wire as well, but the Clippers kind
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: of took away with it late in the late two
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: minutes around that time, and all right, Clippers are favored
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: by four and a half in Game three, Witches tomorrow
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: on NBA TV. I don't know why it's on NBA TV, but.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: I hate that, Bro, Why are you putting a freaking
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: playoff game probably the most important playoff game, the best
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: playoff game series that there has been. You're gonna put
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: it on TV?
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah? No, there, they're definitely they're definitely.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: Sounds like like the home station commentation.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: Not even the home station commentary is beginning energetic. Yeah yeah, bro,
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: be like Kawhi Leonard mid range shot. Oh how impressive
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: he is?
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: Those moving like.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: Jokicch oh another another like interior shot, Like they don't
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: even be getting into it, Like I want to hear
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: screaming like bad.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, put Mike Green up in there, boy?
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah no for bro Kevin Harlan, I don't want to
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: see them commentate together. That that would be an epic
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: that would that would be one of the best basketball games.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: Commentated No, but okay, kind of off topic. We kind
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: of get into the game that happened. That happened yesterday.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard fifteen for nineteen an absolute master class. I
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: think that's one of the best Kawhi Leonard games and
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: since my twenty career. Yeah, in his career. I don't
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: know his exact twenty nineteen run with the Raptors, but
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: I think that's up there. So what do y'all think?
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: I think he's only scored over forty like maybe once
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: or twice in his career.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: I don't think he checked.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: It was so fun to watch, like, it was just
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: so satisfying.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: Well, I think as much as I don't like Kawhi,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: I remember I touched in the group chat bro that's
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: Chip England development right there, when it comes to that
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: peer shot it, I don't think. I think I was
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: telling somebody today in the barbershop that outside of Stephen
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: Curry and Klay Thompson and maybe like a couple others,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: Kawhi Leonard shot has to be the most satisfying to
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: watch in the entire NBA, especially with that with that
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 3: fade around the painted area. He not necessarily inside the arc,
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: but right on the outside along that edge. Bro that
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: that fade away kind of getting to his dribble. Dude,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: it it's kind of stilky smooth every single time, and
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: you feel like it's going in no matter what. And
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: I just think if you get this type of Kawhi Leonard,
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: especially what he's able to do on the defensive side
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: of the ball, two steals, one block, you're probably gonna
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: win the basketball game. And I just think for me,
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: why I'm so high on the Los Angeles Clippers is
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: because what they can provide. And like I know how
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: you were saying when we were talking about it earlier
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: in the last podcast, the last basketball podcast we did.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: That the.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: That the uh, the Clippers don't really have no one
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: to match.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: Nikola Jokic.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 3: But I just think Kawhi Leonard and James Harden can
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: definitely match him, switched matching him game in and game out.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: So I think that's the that's what they can offer
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: compared to any other team that that the Nuggets are
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 3: gonna face is that no matter what Jokic does, they're
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: gonna have an answer from one or two, one or
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: one or one or both of these guys combined, and
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: I think that's the scary part of the Lost Angeles Clippers.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: And what made this different in this game as kind
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: of the same in game one was that in game
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: one Kawhi Leonard actually turned the ball over seven times
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: and they lost in a very close game. Well, in
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: game two, Nikola Jokic turned the ball over seven times
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: and they lost in a close game by three points.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: So I think it comes down to the stars making
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 3: big plays and making big mistakes as well.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna have to agree with Josh there Kawhi
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: going crazy in game too. Just vintage Kawhi so pure,
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: so so fun to watch, Like just him hidn't he
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: was he was perfect or miss one shot in the
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: first half. It was just so beautiful to watch. And
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: I really like this Clippers team, how they play. They're
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: they have James Harden. He's playing really really good. Gives
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: you flashes of not not vintage James Harden, but like
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: it gives you flashes of him and his playmaking and
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: stuff like that. Their defense is also really good, and
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: like Josh said, they might not have a Nicola Jokic stopper,
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: but no one does like who does. Who's gonna like
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: you're gonna have to like double him, do do crazy stuff.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: And I believe that Zubag does a pretty good job
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: on him. Although he does, he still scored like what
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: he's scoring game two, twenty six, twenty six, twelve and ten,
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: Like that's a usual stat line for Nicola jokicch it's
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: kind of hard to guard him. And this this series
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: is gonna be the most entertaining, most fun to watch.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: It's definitely going seven games in my opinion. And the
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: Clippers just need to find ways to to take the
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: ball out of Yoka's hands and force other people to
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: shoot like they were in Game two Russ Russ. They
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: were making Russ shoot a lot, and although he was
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: making them, he's not gonna do that all the time.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: It's not gonna happen all the time. So if you
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: make someone else work, work for those work for those points,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: work for those buckets, that's recipe to success against Nuggets,
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: similar how the Lakers did it when they met up
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: after the Luca trade.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think that, Oh go ahead, my bet,
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: I bet I I'm sure, okay, No, I just think that. Okay,
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: I could definitely see the Clippers winning this. I think
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: the biggest argument between Josh and I was Josh thought
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: that this series was in and in five games right here, but.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: Is ending in five?
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: This series is no way in hell in and five.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 3: They're about to win two to in Los Angeles, Bro,
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: I could see maybe.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: I No, I'm not gonna do it again. I'm saying
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: seven games. I'm saying seven games. I'm not gonna I'm
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: not gonna do this again. No, But I just think
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: that this just shows right here perfectly like you were
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: saying earlier, Josh, and like you're saying, there's no way
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: to stop NICOLEA. Jokic, just the same way there's no
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: way to stop Kawhi Leonard. But I just think that
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: each game is gonna go down to the clutch. What's
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: the Nuggets these past two three years?
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: I know, yeah, he always steps up in the post.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: He just I don't know, built for it.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: He's just built for the moment. But I just think that, Okay,
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: Kawhi or Kawhi, it's kind of hard to gauge the
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: Clippers as them being a clutch team because you haven't
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: really seen as many reps as the Nuggets, but the
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: Nuggets the past two three years have been the best
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: clutch team statistically throughout the entire NBA, and how they
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: look yesterday was kind of a Yeah, it was just
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: Nicola Jokin's one of those late turnovers. I think it
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: was back to back.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was an idiotic pass, and then even that
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: one jump shot he made with like eight seconds left
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 3: after get the offensive rebound.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: Was kind of just Yeah, it was crazy that cost
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: him the basketball game.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's just uncharacteristic. But I just and I
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: just think that, Yeah, I just think the turnover battle,
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: like like y'all are saying, it's gonna be the main factor.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: I know the three point percenters, the field goal percenters
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: is going to look the exact same throughout this but
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: I think we could point to at the end of
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: every single game who had more turnovers because what is
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: gonna be to transition? Yeah, exactly like you're saying, Ryan,
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: I think that transition buckets in the playoffs. I know,
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: I know there were two points, but in the in
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: the NBA playoffs, they're worth like six points at this
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: point because they're so valuable because you get very rare
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: in the playoffs because these teams are so smart. But
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: the Nuggets, it was unc aracteristic. And I'm still sticking
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: with it. I'm still sticking with the Nuggets and seven here.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: I know you got Clippers. I know you got Clippers
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  Speaker 1: in five, Josh, I know you have Clippers in six,
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: maybe in seven, Ryan, But I'm still sticking with Nicola
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: Jokis and the Nuggets here. I think that they still
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: close this out.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: I'm just high on the Clippers in that season. It
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: just their defense.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Josh told me all those stats. Chris Don
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: bulls legend, bulls.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 3: End, even Norman Pale Stroa at the beginning of this
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: game that he really turned on in.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: That for didn't do very good last game either. It's another.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: Also another thing. Michael Porter. Michael Porter last game, shoulder
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: is gonna be. I want fifteen boards. That is crazy.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, nineteen points, fifteen boards. You need that for Michael Porter.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: But I would his shoulders gonna be if he's injured. Bro,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: that's a that's a big.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: Loss for very big loss.
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  Speaker 3: Because I understand that in Game one it worked benching
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 3: him for Russell Well, but you're gonna need his size
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 3: especially for rebounding and kind of just getting creating open
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 3: shots over smaller defenders. You're gonna need that later in
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: the series.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, all right, all right, he needs to any
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: last takeaways from any of these playoffs series or any
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: of this quick questions.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: So do the Memphis Grizzlies look like they fired Taylor
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: Jenkins for this offensive guru?
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: But right now he can't come up with shit. I
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: just don't think they're that good on offense. I don't
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: believe they were the number one offense when they made
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: the move, did y'all? They were scoring a lot, a lot.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: I think they had like the most one forty point
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: games or something like that. I think Taylor Jenkins was
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: not it at all.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: Well, I just think that you have to give Tomas
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: Islo a lot more time. You can't expect him with
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: twenty games in the season to implement his full offense
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: and what he wants to do. I just I just
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: think that also another thing, like Ryan said, perfectly, I
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: just think they need better pieces offensively around them. I
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: don't think John Morant could be a number one on
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: a championship team or even a deep run playoff team.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: Maybe two three years ago you could have convinced me that.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 3: I just don't know if John Moran style of play
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: is built for championship basketball.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: It's not the the NBA is nowadays. Like, I don't I.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 3: Don't see any player you compare with John Morant and
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 3: expect them to mess together. Like, I just don't see
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 3: how that would work, because unlike Anthony Edwards, who they
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 3: kind of like compare each other to based off athletically,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 3: I think Edwards is a willing playmaker and he can
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: shoot the three, you know, so John Morant I can't
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: shoot oka defender and really ball dominant. He goes for
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 3: the highlight plays more often than not, and I just
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 3: do not see how that pans out to championship basketball.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not reliable in my opinion, neither Triple J.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: I just I don't see six.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 3: I think ar juniors based off scheme. I think he's
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 3: based off people around him. How he's gonna ultimately play
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 3: like your your first option and he can't. He can
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 3: be your second option if you have like someone that's
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 3: that's a good shooter and a good that's a good
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: shooter that also is a playmaker.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I just think that John Moran. He's the
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: exact same player who was two three years ago. Yeah,
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: he hasn't been at all.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, similar to daily game development.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I I don't know. I just think that
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: John Morant. I don't think there's nowhere else he could
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: go and really be the number one or even really
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: number two on a on a successful basketball team that
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: could make a deep playoff runt. Because I'm thinking of
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: all these playoff teams right now. Even if he goes
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: to sain Miami, they could they could use him possibly, but.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 3: That would take the ball out of Tyler Harrow's hands exactly.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 3: I believe it's probably the better player.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: I believe it too, the better player. Oh, I don't
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: that's picking right there, that's picking straight there. But that's close.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: That's that's close right there. But all right, do you
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: think we have time for a hoop grid or no?
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: We can do one or two?
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, let me go in and share my screen.
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  Speaker 2: Also, shout out Sam Adamman. I think his name the
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: Denver coach. Pretty good?
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: Oh, David David Adalman.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, David Adamman.
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  Speaker 1: I was about to say, I don't know who Sam is,
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: but shout shout out. Okay, y'all can see my screen
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: right mm hmm, yeah, I don't know why it's shown
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: on mine, a black black screen at the very top.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: It's weird. I don't know.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: This one looks like it's going to be tough.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: Bro or did y'all want to go to a different one?
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do a different one. I'm already looking at
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 3: this like my brain hurts.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: Hold on, I see that canvas. Boy here, this was
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: a little bit easier the studies.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: Okay, so for audio listens. At the very top, y'all
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: know how hoop grids works right here, so ten plus
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: point per game season, Denver Nuggets and a top ten
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: draft pick. And at the bottom row, yeah, the Memphis
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: Grizzlies one block per game in a season and the
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: Los Angeles Clippers. And I can't get rid of these ads.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: I can't get rid of these ads right now. So
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: just we're gonna have to just work with this at
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: this moment.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: Johnson Clippers ten plus points per game season?
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: You think Wesley Johnson, you think he averaged ten point Okay?
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: Oh Ryan, we didn't even explain it to Ryan. We
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: let Ryan before before we even start fired here Josh.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: So basically the point of this, obviously you could go
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: with the simple answer right here, like the Denver Nuggets. Yeah,
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: you you could say, you could say somebody like that.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: But the point of it is to get the lowest
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: possible player. These damn ads keep popping up. But the
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: player that you can't think of most likely, like one
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: that would kind of be medium is Denver Nuggets Clippers
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: Reggie Jackson. That would kind of be like a medium
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: one right there. But you want to try to dig
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: deep into your ball knowledge like the rarest player that
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: you could possibly have. So yeah, that's how it goes.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: But so Wesley Johnson doesn't fit for this one. Let's see,
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: this is where we start thinking. So we start thinking
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: top ten draft pick, one block per game season and
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: then Brian, we have no way like we attack this,
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: so like we just kind of just fire all over
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: the place and and this is this is unlimited. This
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: is unlimited, so we we could shoot as many as
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: we want to. I'm gonna go in part of Reggie
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: Jackson right here. Ooh, Timothy Moskov, we're.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: At oh per season in Denver.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: Now that that might that might work, That might work.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: Oh no, it doesn't. Okay, Reggie Jackson, that's four point
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: sixty three, dude.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 3: George, Like, I'll spell for you on top ten draft
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 3: pick one plus block per game season.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: G H. No, it's not gonna be like that. G H.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: Right there.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 3: That is if you didn't average a block, Bro, you
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 3: didn't average a block?
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: That is?
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: Is it? Can it be? Hashen the beat? I don't
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: even know how to spell his name.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: No, that's why I was. I was going for that,
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: George one point.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: We could get lower, we get lower, m hm, we
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: get diamond.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: Tried Nick Callison? Do you think Nick Colson didn't average
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: a block? Nick?
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: But do you think that one popular one? Nah, he
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: didn't average a block. Top ten draft pick, and for
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: the men his Grizzlies up ten draft pick, Memphis Grizzlies
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: top ten draft pick.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 3: I mean they didn't have to play for the Memphitz Grizzlies.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 3: They didn't have to be drafted by the Memphis Grizzy.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 3: They just had to play for the Memphis Grizzlies and
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 3: be a top ten draft pick.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: Well, the obvious answer would be like a Derek Rose
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: and Marcus Smart, But I feel like those I feel
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: like people will kind of guess where where's the at Mayo?
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: Oh oh dot j oh one point seventy five. Okay, nice,
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of like I'm trying to think
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: of like like older like older players. I know the
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: Grizzlies they've had some players like that.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: I just can't think do Touring Prince or Shawn Prince.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna just put Prince.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 3: No, okay, Prince in the top ten do Sorry. I'm
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 3: gonna try to go as low as I can with
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 3: that one. I know some Grizzies players because of how
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 3: much they played the Furst.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: Mike Mike Baby's too easy, Yeah, Mike Bibby's too easy.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, Luke Canard.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: What's his name? No, what's his name? Oh, my goodness,
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: what's his name? I'm trying to think.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 5: Oh Era, I'm thinking it's because I thought of somebody
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 5: and he just like popped out of my head like completely,
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 5: like early two thousands, like early two thousands.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: I think I think he went to Kansas. Oh, I'm
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: not thinking him, but that that is a great pool.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: That's uh good in was Drew Gooden? Drew good Oh damn,
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: it's only yeah one point, it's it's We're getting there.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: We're getting there.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: All right, we can't we can take a break from
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: that one right now. Let me think hmmm, I'm blinking.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: Mmmm Kenneth for Reid one block? That's too obvious.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 3: Huh right, No, I was gonna say for Denver Nuggets.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that is That.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: One's way too obvious.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, okay, I'm still stuck on the Grizzlies
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: right here. If I'm not mistaken, wasn't Kevin Love drafted
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: by the Grizzlies.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know you can type that any find out.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: I just thought he was Timberwolves.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: Yes, I swear he was drafted by the Grizzlies.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 2: Bro Calves timber Wolves.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: I swear he was drafted by.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 2: Rudy Gay mephits Grizzlies tim plus points per season?
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Gay, we can go Scotty. Oh G G. Jackson?
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: Did G G. Jackson ever? Get?
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: No, he didn't play for the It's I don't think.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: Block per game. Mm hmm, let's think. Let's think who's
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: all been? I need to get away from like that
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: Grizzlies in top ten draft pick one. I'm just stuck
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: on that one. I need to start like my brain
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: needs to start firing somewhere else. One block per game.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: M I don't know why my stuff on the side
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: has started glitching.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: Has Russell Westbrook average a block per game? I think
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: it'd be just under like point Oh, I mean for
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: the Dinver Nuggets, wes.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: Nah Clippers, top ten draft m HM.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 2: Is bone tiling, top ting draftic.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 3: I don't think see maybe maybe maybe j McGee, Yeah,
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 3: Jael McGee, wait for a block block for the Oh.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was the he he has to have average
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: a block.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 2: Chris Anderson, Oh, bird Man, what the heck?
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, we're gonna be thinking in this, We're gonna
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: be thinking. We're gonna be thinking.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 2: Spurs legend.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: Antonio mcdce Bro, I can't spell Antonio. It's too late
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: right now. One point Bro. That's not low enough, bro,
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: Bro Diamond?
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: Wait, he said, Ryan said Timothy mosgov earlier. Bro.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: Wait, No, we tried a different one now I think we.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: Oh what he higher than Antonio mcdes?
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: I mean it makes sense.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: No, it doesn't Bro. Wait wait point game.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: Bro, hold on, wait, let me let me try Antonio.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: I'm still suck out the Grizzlies. Is his name? Guys?
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: Didn't play for the Grizzlies.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: No, not mc dice, is it is it Daniel? It
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: is Daniels Bro. Oh my gosh, how was that the
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: exact same? How was that the exact same? Right there? Bro?
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: No way, no way, Antonio Daniels Bro. I think that's
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: one of their first ever draft picks. I think that's
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: one of their first ever draft picks.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: Hey for the one blocks per game the nana ever
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 2: scored him plus.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: The first diamond, Yes, sir Josh, the first diamond. We
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: just needed a diamond. We just needed a diamond first,
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: so we can start pulling. Okay, okay, I be okay.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: Let's replace the Clippers and the Nuggets one so we
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: can see where our score is at Nuggets Clippers, Nuggets, Clippers, Nuggets, Nuggets, Clippers, Nuggets, Clippers,
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: Jordan. Let's just see.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: Let's just see, can be hired be higher than twenty
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: four cham.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 3: How about how about DeMarcus Cousins?
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Try that? Did he play?
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: Oh? Wait? Wait, okay, am I tripping? Did did Tyron
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: lou Phillips Chauncey billup? Yeah?
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 2: Try Chauncey try time on too? You did play for the.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: Two point one five. I want to try try ty lou.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: Oh they don't have to put on lou. Oh they
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: did what Damn?
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: Nick Young, Nick Young, Nick Young, fine legend.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: Diamond Oh, we're cooking diamonds. Josh, you're cooking. Josh, you're
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: cooking right here.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 2: You are cooking.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: You are cooking nuggets. Clippers nuggets are not nuggets. Clippers
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: nuggets nuggets. Uh, Grizzlies nuggets. Grizzlies. Luca is the first
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: ever guard with the Lakers start their playoff career with
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: two straight thirty point games. Damn. Shout out to Lucas
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: shouts mm.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 3: So we're looking for lamar Odom for a top ten
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 3: draft pick for Clippers. But I feel like that's pretty high.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: I say, yeah that wait, let's see wait.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I have one after.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: John Livingston, have one for the Nuggets. I have one
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: for the Nuggets and Grizzlies. But we can't put that
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: one yet.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: We can't feel it.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: There's Chris, there's Chris Anderson, there's Jeff Green, there's Mike
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: Miller je but we we can't fill that one out
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: yet because it'll complete the board.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so there's I got I got a couple.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 3: I got a couple of guesses for the Clippers and
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 3: top ten draft pick, right, I mean they're right, but
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 3: I just feel.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 2: Like I don't know they're gonna be low.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: Do you have it? Tyson Chandler, Danny Ferry is a
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: crazy pool? Josh, you are insane. No, No, you're off
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: for two right, Danny Ferry? That's crazy? Did he play? No?
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 2: What do we want to raise? Like one?
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: Oh? Do people do? People don't remember Haquem on the Grizzlies?
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 2: Do people remember game season he was?
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: I don't think he averaged ten? Yeah, okay, I guess
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: this has to be like while he was with the Grizzlies.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 2: Do you think Eric is going to be high for
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 2: the for the Clippers top ten draftick?
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: I think so. I mean we could try it. No,
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: it wasn't. It wasn't as as I thought it was.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: And this is tough.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 2: Trying to think of the one game top ten draft.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: But we have our guy, Danny Manning Clippers. I mean,
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 2: didn't you select him in the drafts top t in
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 2: draft pick? Oh?
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah I did. It was higher Danny Manning. Shout out
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: to Danny Manning man underrated Kansas legend. M I'm trying
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: to think of like a ten point score for the Grizzlies.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm stuck on.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 2: Try Kevin Martin.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: Kevin Martin's a great one.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: Oh No, he played for the Timbers driven.
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: I mean maybe he stopped during the Grizzlies.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 2: Kenny Martin. No, he didn't play Martin.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: I swear he did. No, he didn't. Steve Francis, Steve Francis.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: I feel like that's a good one. I swore he played.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: Was he a top ten draft pick? Steve Francis the Grizzlies.
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  Speaker 2: I know a nice animations on two K BRO.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: I thought, I swore Steve. I'm gonna look that up.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: Steve Francis will to be draft pick? What it says
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  Speaker 1: Steve Francis was selected by the Vancouver Grizzlies with the
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  Speaker 1: second overall pick in nineteen ninety nine. Oh but it
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: says Memphis. It says Memphis.
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  Speaker 2: Shane Battier.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: Is a good pool. Oh damn, that's higher. What the
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: hell Nuggets or not Nuggets ten point per game score
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  Speaker 1: for the Clippers.
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  Speaker 2: Mike Colliny is going to be too high.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was thinking that my college is going to
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: be too high. Who could it be? Who could it be?
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: Who could it be? I don't know why I'm thinking
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: of might be.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 2: Tried Nerlin to No, oh, Norlans the world didn't go
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  Speaker 2: top ten?
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  Speaker 1: Yes he did? Yesse he did?
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 2: He went twelve?
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, he went top five. Yeah, don't your
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: ball knowledge. Don't underst me that bro's believe. I'm sorry yourself.
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 2: Hey, do Tyson Chandler Clippers ten plus point per game season?
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: Did he have much chipping?
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 2: No? Do? I'm gonna keep guessing right there?
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: Do Norm Nixon? Fuck it?
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 2: Do alfareka menuet.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: Norm Nixon work?
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 2: You know? Fucking wait, didn't Glenn Davis play for the Clippers?
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: Did what Norm fucking Nixon?
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, leave it there, leave it there.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's just like you were just I
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: don't know what it is. You were just spitball in players.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: Then this just random fucking name pop into my head
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: of Norm fucking Nixon. Do not ask me where this
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: came from? Right here? Do not ask me? Wait, tim
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: plus points per game? Oh my goodness, there's another older
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: Clippers player. Would it be Moses with? Was Moses MORGANA?
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: I thought fucking Norm Nixon shout out to him. Was
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Simmons? Ever, was he a top ten pick?
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 2: Jonathan Simmons was undrafted.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: He was undrafted.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 2: Me, Hey, try Tyreek Evans for the Memphis Grizzlies.
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: That is nice. That's nice. That's nice. That's a diamond.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: That's another diamond. Josh is cooking. Josh is cooking.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 2: I did it for my brain.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: Was Moses Malone the Clippers?
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: No, Moses Moody for No Oh Black per game? And
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: no he didn't play for the No, he didn't. He's
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 2: a warrior, right, yeah?
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: What, No, there's a name that's I kind of picture
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: the player. I'm just trying to think of his name
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: right now. On the Nuggets, I'm trying to think. No,
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: did Tony Allen ever play for the Nuggets? No, he didn't.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: I mean Tony he did? Tony Snell? No, Tony Snell
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: did play for the Clippers though.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: One and maybe too soon.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 3: But did Peyton Watson average one block per game this year?
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say that for the Nuggets.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's higher, it's higher, though.
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to think, no, Payton.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: Would Jeff Green fit the criteria? No, he didn't ever
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: to block Clippers top ten. No, I don't know if
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: he was a Nugget. He wasn't.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 3: He's only played for the Spurs, Mavericks and Clippers and.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: Pistons.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: Oh never mind, you play for all the blue teams.
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all the blue teams. Yeah, Nuggets one block per game.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: I feel like there's one guy like we're just completely missing.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: Would Alex English work just because he's older?
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 2: No? Two who played with Mellow? Didn't? One of the
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 2: Wallace's played.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 3: Peter.
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 2: No, who's the other one being? No, Ban didn't play
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 2: with him.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: I mean we could try it, Ben Warning. I don't
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: know who that guy is.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 2: But mart he played with Mellow, Ken Martin.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: Higher, you're gonna get there.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 2: There's I tried to kim By see what he did.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: Imagine how high that's going to be.
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 2: Who did j R. Smith average a block in the
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 2: season he got off?
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: Would it be Ja dot R? No, it's no.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 2: I think it's just j R. I think his name
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 2: is just j R.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: J R. Smith. No, he didn't fuck it Mellow. I'm
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: pretty sure Melo didn't average a blocker game the Anton
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: Melon I saw he played for the Nuggets.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 2: No, he didn't, he did. I think Mario.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: Sorry, no, no, bros, do.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 2: You think all right?
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 3: Let's throw players out there, Jeremy Grant, Mason Plumb, Lee,
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 3: Mason Plumb, Jeremy Diamon.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: Let's see if Plumb is lower. Let's see if Plumble
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: is lower.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: No Plumb, Jeremy Grant. Isn't that like?
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: I don't feel like that's I don't know.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 2: Josh Cooking family, No, Josh.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: Is hearing this one. Josh is Cooking?
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 2: Have gone every single one of them except for Norm Nixon. Yeah,
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 2: I'm just in here here.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: Bro, I do not know how I picked Norm Nixon. Bro,
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: I swear to you, you just you just like threw
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: like a random oop. Did Patrick Ewing ever play for do.
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 2: Antonio mcdye's top ten draft pick Clippers?
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: Did Patrick Ewing ever play for the Grizzlies Antonio mcdyce, Wait,
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: we are I can't see?
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 2: Maybe do?
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: Like my audio is like a little weird, like it's
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: showing I don't know what differently all right?
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 1: He would like, what what was that the Clippers they
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: drafted him? What was it like two thousand and one?
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: Like him, Oh my god, what's the weird name? Like
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: walk show jaw oh Ted think, yeah, we tried.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 3: O W put o w O oh W.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 2: Just put no quick, don't you put O W O
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 2: W and go look for that fool?
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: He has the weirdest thing. M Candy Candy is that
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: Michael Mike Mike Michael.
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: I think his name is O O, like it's double O.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 3: Like there's no Michael, Michael Carter Williams, the Sixers and.
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 2: Sixers and Bulls.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: I thought it would right there, Michael Olowa Candy Damn well,
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: he is one of the biggest busts in history. Pause.
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 2: I just feel like we should just give up.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: No, when have you ever said that? Josh? Well, actually
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: you said it a lot, But then we lock in.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know why.
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: Like Clippers, I don't know why. I'm thinking like under
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: two thousands, like I'm thinking like like fucking Norm. I'm
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: thinking fucking Norm Nixon, Fucking Steve France. Wait, Steve Francis
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: played for the Clippers, right, Steve Francis played for the Clippers?
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: What I guess he didn't. Did Gilbert Arenas ever play
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: for the Clippers?
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 2: No?
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: Did Ship? What's his name? Scott Scott? You know Mike
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: Scott was Mike Scott No, he was Iron Scott. Byron Scott.
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: He was. He was drafted by the Clippers. What what
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: where he was drafted by the Clippers?
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 2: Bro, search it up. I'm searching it up.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: Let's see Byron Scott draft draft Pickron Scott. Bro Why
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: is it? Well kind of like what it did with
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: Steve Francis. Yeah, Oh my gosh, Bro.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 3: Well Lorenzen, Lorenzen right, Lorenz right?
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: Bro? That is insane. That is insane. Joshua whatever your
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: middle name is, Garcia is going off right now. He's
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: still middle name.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 3: Y'all figure out that Grizzlies top ten draft pick. Cook
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 3: I'm doing you know what I feel like.
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: Let's just go with the easy answer here. Derek Rose,
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: how about that? Let's just go Derek Rose and Call
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: of the Day. How is that only three percent? That
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: is crazy? Marcus Smart?
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 2: Hey, how is Marvin Baggley?
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: Marvin Bagley would work?
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 2: Well? What he's higher than Derek Road?
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 3: James never played for the Grizzlies yet, No, I mean
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 3: they could try it.
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: No, they were supposed to light him.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 2: That's what it was.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: Top ten draft pick.
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: We've got so many names for this top ten draft pick.
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: It was one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight,
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: top ten draft pick for the Grizzlies. Powe was he
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: a top ten? Damn? That's wow. No, Marcus was a
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: like second round pick.
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 2: Chauncey. No, he didn't play.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: Chauncey did play for the Grizzlies. Oh he didn't. I
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: swore he did. Top gin draft pick for the Memphis Grizzlies,
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: top ten draft pick, top ten draft pick for the
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: Memphis Grizzlies, top ten draft.
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna Tony Kuko che didn't know beyond but
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 2: wasn't a top ten draft pick? Was? Oh?
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: No, he wasn't. I mean, was Jason Williams a brown
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: brown brown?
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be like three percent.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: Josh, you're on fire.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 2: You're Josh, Josh, you were insane.
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: You're in your bag today. The only guy could think
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: of was like, Jason Williams, all.
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 3: Right, this is our last option right here, Like this
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 3: is last, Like we have to get it right on
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 3: the first try.
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: Mike Chris Anderson, Jeff Green, Jeff Green's obvious one. Jeff
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 1: Green's an obvious one. I feel like that would be
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: more obvious. I don't know, but Birdman, that would be
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: obvious too, right.
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 2: Mike, Alan Iverson is pretty obvious.
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: Alan, I is pretty fucking obvious. What could it be?
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 1: What could it be? What could it be? What could
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 1: it be? Could it poss damn? What the hell?
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 2: Y'all said his name earlier? That costa coasta?
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: I think I got a pool. I think I got
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: a pool. I got a pool. No fucking easy, that's
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: that's a whole of NBA. That's way too fucking easy. Okay.
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: I think I think Drew okay here, No, Smith has
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: been everywhere. I think he's been on like fourteen fifteen teams.
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: But just I'm thinking Carroll, which one's lowered justin holiday?
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 1: Or Demary Carroll? Which one do you think justin Holiday?
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: I feel like, Josh.
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 2: Sh you can make that decision. You can live with
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 2: the consequences.
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: Ryan, you say, hold on, hold on?
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 2: I know, bra Earl Watson.
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 1: Earl Watson is another good one. Watson is another good one.
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 1: Which one is?
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 2: Michael Green?
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: Day, Michael Watson, good one?
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 2: Bro? You know what?
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: Just because Ryan hasn't hasn't wait, Bryan, you'll cook? Yeah,
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 1: you have a good trade it.
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 2: Michael Green, how do you spell it?
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: Choke? Choere?
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 2: Oh ship, okay, here we go. All right, I'm gonna cry.
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: No, where are we at?
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 2: Ranked?
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: I don't what I choked? Who's that at? It's not
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: letting me scroll down, bro, let me scroll down?
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 2: What's in this part? And doing another one? This took
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 2: up thirty minutes of the.
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: Pot Oh okay, yeah though, all right, all right, we're
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 1: gonna We're gonna go in this one. So again you
• 1:53:58
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