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RUNNING THROUGH: Erin Azar, 'Expert Struggle Runner' · Hurdle with Emily Abbate

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Speaker 1: If you're why isn't I want to make this time
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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, Emily Abody here coming in with another installment
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Speaker 2: of this week's special series called Running Through with Global.
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Speaker 2: Here on the show, I am dedicated to bringing hurdler's
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Speaker 2: a very very special place in my heart, and while
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Speaker 2: originally leaned to running as a weight loss tool back
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Speaker 2: in college, it has turned into a serious passion of mine,
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Speaker 2: helping me get through some of my biggest hurdle moments
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Speaker 2: and connects on a deeper level with so many. This week,
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Speaker 2: I am talking with some inspiring women, a few of
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Speaker 2: which you have heard from already, all of whom have
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Speaker 2: also turned to running during some of life's biggest, darkest hurdles.
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Speaker 2: We get vulnerable talking about tough topics like loss and grief, depression,
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Speaker 2: and postpartum depression and how running in sport has helped
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Speaker 2: them persevere, rediscover their self worth and put on a
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Speaker 3: In her words, she is an expert struggle.
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Speaker 2: Runner and struggle lifer who is making running more approachable
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Speaker 2: for beginners. I absolutely loved having the opportunity to chat
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Speaker 2: with Aaron, who opened up about the difficulties that she
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Speaker 2: had after having her children and how it felt for
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Speaker 2: her to not just get back to her normal life,
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Speaker 2: but start to move her body again. She also talks
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Speaker 2: about some of the depression she felt after that time
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Speaker 2: in her life and how she was able to lean
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Speaker 2: into certain relationships to help navigate her struggles.
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Speaker 3: Today. I am sitting down with Aaron Azar.
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Speaker 2: She's known to her many many followers as missus space Cadet.
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Speaker 3: How you do today?
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Speaker 1: I am doing great? How about you?
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Speaker 3: I'm so good.
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Speaker 2: I'm so happy that we were able to connect via
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Speaker 2: the powers that be on the Twitter.
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Speaker 1: It's amazing. I just recently got back on Twitter, like
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Speaker 1: a few months ago. I've had my Twitter forever, but
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Speaker 1: I found it really like scary. People on there can
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Speaker 1: be a little scary, but I think I found the
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Speaker 1: right people. That's the key. You have to find the
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Speaker 1: right people to follow and unfollow the scary people.
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Speaker 2: You of all people, knowing a thing or two about that,
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Speaker 2: not only because you are now getting more active in Twitter,
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Speaker 2: but you also have a pretty great following over on
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Speaker 2: both Instagram and TikTok, which happened during the pandemic. How
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Speaker 2: has it been for you to give so many more
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Speaker 2: individuals around the world more access to your life.
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Speaker 1: It's really bizarre to me how that happened, because you know,
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Speaker 1: when I started posting on there, it was when I
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Speaker 1: first started running and I was really struggling, and everyone
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Speaker 1: I would look at that ran of course I'm going
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Speaker 1: to social media because I don't know where else to look.
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Speaker 1: I live in the middle of nowhere, so I'm looking
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Speaker 1: at social media and I'm like, okay, well where are
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Speaker 1: the people like me? You know? And I think that's why,
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Speaker 1: like I did reach the point of desperation to post
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Speaker 1: to TikTok, like post my runs on there. But at
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Speaker 1: the time, Instagram wasn't didn't have videos, I mean like reels,
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Speaker 1: and TikTok was like a dancing app for teenagers or something.
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Speaker 1: That's what I thought it was, And so I was
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Speaker 1: ready to get like brutally ripped apart by ten year
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Speaker 1: old boys, and so I was really shocked that when I,
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Speaker 1: you know, posted those videos, there were so many people
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Speaker 1: that were like, finally, you know, someone's saying these things
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Speaker 1: and talking about thigh shaving and like all these random things.
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Speaker 1: I just didn't think that it would really blow up
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Speaker 1: to what it did and what it's still doing. That's
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Speaker 1: like what really surprises me. But I love every second
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Speaker 1: of it. It's amazing.
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Speaker 2: For context, tell the people, quote unquote, where is the
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Speaker 2: middle of nowhere?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that is in like southeastern Pennsylvania. It's basically
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Speaker 1: like a little farm community. I guess I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I always kind of felt like we didn't really belong
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Speaker 1: here because it's it's very much like generational these families,
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Speaker 1: and my parents moved there, you know, like maybe forty
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Speaker 1: years ago, so we're technically like newcomers. I don't know,
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Speaker 1: So I always felt a little odd there. But I mean,
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Speaker 1: I love it now. It's beautiful, but it is a
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Speaker 1: little isolating if you're trying to do something like learn
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Speaker 1: how to run.
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Speaker 2: You know. Probably also a really great place to raise
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Speaker 2: a family.
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Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, yeah, because the thing is it's like they
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Speaker 1: can have space and it's safe to like walk down
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Speaker 1: to you know, someone's house. We call them neighbors, but
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Speaker 1: they're like a mile away. And but yet you'res close
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Speaker 1: to like Philadelphia and New York City, Like a day
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Speaker 1: trip is easy, you know, to those locations. So it's
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Speaker 1: kind of cool, like the kids can have that country
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Speaker 1: lifestyle and then have all the fun of the cities.
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Speaker 3: And when you say kids, you are a mother of three.
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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, they are seven, five and newly three, So
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Speaker 1: we're like out of that toddler phase kind of.
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Speaker 2: We are here today to talk to one another as
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Speaker 2: part of this Running Through series. This week on Hurdle
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Speaker 2: and you and I had a really great conversation about
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Speaker 2: not only the hurdles they you faced getting into running,
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Speaker 2: but what brought you to running in the first place. Now,
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Speaker 2: you just mentioned you have three beautiful children, but talk
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Speaker 2: to us about where you were in your life after
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Speaker 2: having your third.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. So, after I had my third baby, I was
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Speaker 1: feeling honestly similar to after I had the first two,
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Speaker 1: which was really just like isolate, feeling of isolation, even
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Speaker 1: though I was surrounded by like friends and family, really exhausted,
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Speaker 1: which is obvious, just really depressed, which is when you
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Speaker 1: have a baby, I think, and this is becoming like
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Speaker 1: more talked about now, but like when you have a baby,
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Speaker 1: it's like assumed that you would be the best, the
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Speaker 1: happiest you've ever been, and how could you be sad
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Speaker 1: and all this, But you're going through your day not
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Speaker 1: quite feeling sad, but all of a sudden you're crying.
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Speaker 1: Like it's really weird, in a really weird mental sp
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Speaker 1: to be in. And I never realized that I'm in
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Speaker 1: it until I'm out of it, which is kind of weird,
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Speaker 1: and which I think is why I probably didn't get
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Speaker 1: enough like clinical like medical support from it, because you know,
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Speaker 1: like the midwives or people they're calling to check on you,
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Speaker 1: but when they're calling, I'm fine, so you know what
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Speaker 1: I mean. And I didn't hear a lot of people
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Speaker 1: actually talking about that when I was going through it.
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Speaker 1: But now I make sure, like if I talk to
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Speaker 1: a new mom and she seems a little like struggling
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Speaker 1: in some way or maybe trying to hide that she's struggling,
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Speaker 1: I do mention what I went through and how confusing
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Speaker 1: that was, just in case to you know, kind of
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Speaker 1: open up that dialogue a bit so that was rough
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Speaker 1: because you're like, why do I feel like this? You
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Speaker 1: can't control it? And it comes and goes in like
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Speaker 1: big waves, And.
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Speaker 2: Would you say that otherwise you are a pretty happy person.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean it's I struggle in winter just
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Speaker 1: from like the seasonal depression type things like once fall hits,
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Speaker 1: everyone's like, oh, it's so beautiful, and I'm like ready
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Speaker 1: to cry because I'm like, no, summer's over and winter
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Speaker 1: like the days are so short. But I find ways
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Speaker 1: to get through it. It's not like I can't control it. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: So that's I feel like a bit different there.
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Speaker 2: So I would imagine that when you get these outbursts
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Speaker 2: of sadness and tears are coming from seemingly nowhere, on
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Speaker 2: top of being overtired, as most moms of infants certainly are,
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Speaker 2: it's confusing and a little isolating. And it's as though,
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Speaker 2: in this point, and to your point about feeling as
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Speaker 2: though you're supposed to be super happy, you're supposed to
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Speaker 2: feel like you can handle all of this, it just
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Speaker 2: gets to be a lot.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it really does. And also the guilt of sometime
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Speaker 1: being taken away from the other kids. So if it's
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Speaker 1: not your first you feel like that guilt because you're
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Speaker 1: kind of having to say like, Okay, later, we can
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Speaker 1: do that. Later, I have to feed the baby or
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Speaker 1: you know something like that. So add that onto the
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Speaker 1: pile of emotions that you're feeling. It's like, yeah, it's
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Speaker 1: a little exhausting.
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Speaker 2: How at the time did you begin to navigate that
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Speaker 2: guilt and did you have any conversations about how you
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Speaker 2: were feeling with friends or family members.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think I really mostly opened up to my husband.
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Speaker 1: I think because obviously he was like physically near and
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Speaker 1: so when I was feeling like one of those waves
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Speaker 1: or one of those days, he was right there. So
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Speaker 1: I'm just like, hey, I'm not doing well, but I
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Speaker 1: don't really know why, but you know, and it always
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Speaker 1: seemed like just saying that really helped, and I would
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Speaker 1: kind of like and then we would do something different,
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Speaker 1: like we'd change up something and he'd be like, hey,
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Speaker 1: I'll take you know, the kids, and you can sleep
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Speaker 1: or because sometimes that's you need to sleep in the
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Speaker 1: middle of the day or something and you can wake
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Speaker 1: up and switch off, switch that off. But I do
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Speaker 1: think a lot of that some too, maybe friends that
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Speaker 1: had babies, and I think for me, it was just
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Speaker 1: really like they're talking it out and also just knowing, like,
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Speaker 1: I know this is going to go away, because I
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Speaker 1: went through it the other two times.
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Speaker 2: And I think that point that you made about simply
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Speaker 2: talking about how you feel can make a really big difference. Now,
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Speaker 2: of course, it's really beautiful that you had your husband
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Speaker 2: to chat with, but of course if you feel as
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Speaker 2: though you're going through something, you're unsure, maybe you're wondering,
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Speaker 2: if you're experiencing depression, then there are so many communities, experts,
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Speaker 2: individuals that you can reach out to and start there.
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Speaker 2: Start by stating where you're at, because if you don't
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Speaker 2: admit what's going on, if you don't confront how you feel,
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Speaker 2: then you can't do anything about it.
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Speaker 3: You can't change it.
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Speaker 1: Right, And sometimes just saying that to someone won't make
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Speaker 1: you feel better. And I think if that didn't help,
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Speaker 1: I would have been like that, you know what I'm calling.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what they're gonna do, but I'm calling
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Speaker 1: a doctor or I'm you know, a support group or something.
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Speaker 1: But I think the fact that when I would get
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Speaker 1: that off my chest and say like, oh, I'm going
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Speaker 1: through this point here, and the kind of weight that
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Speaker 1: was lifted off. I felt a little lighter, I felt
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Speaker 1: like I could think better. That was thankfully something that helped.
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Speaker 1: But you know, like you said, if that doesn't, there's
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Speaker 1: so many resources to get through it.
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Speaker 2: Definitely, definitely, So as you start to speak a little
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Speaker 2: bit about how you're feeling, you're trying to navigate what
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Speaker 2: life is now with three children. This journey then leads
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Speaker 2: you toward the point where you ask yourself, maybe try
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Speaker 2: moving my body?
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Speaker 3: Question right about that journey for you?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: And the thing is too So my third baby was
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Speaker 1: my first sea section, so that was wild. The recovery
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Speaker 1: from that. I was really hesitant. I feel like with
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Speaker 1: my first two, I knew I could move, like I
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Speaker 1: wasn't cut open. Not to get too graphic, but I
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Speaker 1: mean that wasn't involved. So with this sea section, I
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Speaker 1: was hesitant. I'm like, can I do a sit up?
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Speaker 1: Like is everything still attached in there? And so I
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Speaker 1: think I held off a little bit. But yeah, I
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Speaker 1: just felt like this. I don't know if it was
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Speaker 1: like desperation or something, but I'm like, I have to
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Speaker 1: get fresh air and I have to move and sweat
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Speaker 1: it somehow. And I looked out the window, and that
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Speaker 1: day it happened to be like a really nice morning,
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Speaker 1: not too hot, not too cold, it wasn't raining. I'm like,
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go. And I always say like I
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Speaker 1: had these sneakers with holes in them that you could
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Speaker 1: put your finger through the holes, like they weren't just
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Speaker 1: a little worn here and there. It's like, and I
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Speaker 1: had no idea how bad that was to run in that,
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Speaker 1: But I don't know. I just I didn't even have
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Speaker 1: a regular sports bra I had like a nursing bra on.
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Speaker 1: I was a mess. But yeah, that first I said
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Speaker 1: I'm going to run to the stop sign and back.
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Speaker 1: That first barely mile was just enough to be like,
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Speaker 1: I feel something here and I need to keep doing it.
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Speaker 2: And before you made the decision to go on this
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Speaker 2: like maiden Voyage run, had your doctor given you any
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Speaker 2: insight as to when would quote unquote be safe for you?
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Speaker 2: And noting here that of course everyone is different, everyone's
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Speaker 2: body is different, but any guidance as to when doing
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Speaker 2: something like that would be okay from when you delivered.
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Speaker 3: To that point.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so at you know, like the follow up appointments
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Speaker 1: where they just like check everything, which does not seem
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Speaker 1: very thorough to me, but I trusted it. They're just like,
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Speaker 1: how are you feeling? Oh what, let's look at things here. Okay, yeah,
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Speaker 1: you can get back to everything. And I'm like, are
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Speaker 1: you sure?
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Speaker 3: Are you sure?
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Speaker 1: I feel a little like disconnected to my body and things.
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Speaker 1: But I think they do know better because they know
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Speaker 1: the benefits of activity for your mental health, and you know,
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Speaker 1: physical health are going to far outweigh any like I
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Speaker 1: don't know, muscle like injury not I don't want to
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Speaker 1: say injury, but you might feel a little different. It's
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Speaker 1: better to just get the benefits of a little aerobic activity,
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Speaker 1: you know.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think oftentimes, you know, a parallel similar
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Speaker 2: to that could be generally speaking, a registered dietitian might
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Speaker 2: not recommend having wine all the time, but there are
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Speaker 2: like endorphin endorphin boosting I wish serotonin boosting moments that
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Speaker 2: you get from like sitting down with friends and having
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Speaker 2: a glass or two, and that is good for your
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Speaker 2: mental health and whatnot.
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Speaker 3: So it's the same along the same lines.
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Speaker 2: It's like, Okay, getting fresh air so good for your system.
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Speaker 2: Getting those endorphins boosted also good for your system, so
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Speaker 2: worth giving it a try.
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Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, and I was like I never liked running though,
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Speaker 1: that was That was another thing that made me realize, like, wow,
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Speaker 1: I'm really desperate here because from the gym class mile
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Speaker 1: in like elementary school, to running being a punishment in
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Speaker 1: team sports, I was just like running sucks and I'm
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Speaker 1: bad at it and it hurts Aaron.
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Speaker 2: I don't know anyone who isn't scarred from their like
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Speaker 2: middle school mile experience, right.
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Speaker 1: I totally agree, Like who enjoyed that? Who was okay
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Speaker 1: with that?
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Speaker 3: Definitely not me?
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Speaker 2: So you go out for this first inaugural mile and
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Speaker 2: you enjoy it, I would say overall, you were like
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Speaker 2: this is good for me, and so what happens from there?
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Speaker 1: From there? Because I've been someone my whole life that
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Speaker 1: quits everything, like I quit girl scouts, I quit sports,
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Speaker 1: I quit band, I quit everything. I can't even think
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Speaker 1: of something I haven't quit. I thought that, okay, I
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Speaker 1: can't stick with anything, So what would make me stick
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Speaker 1: with this? And I think for some reason, I was like,
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Speaker 1: I'm going to do this every day for thirty days,
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Speaker 1: and I guess I assumed it would just build that
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Speaker 1: habit or something and I would stick with it longer.
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Speaker 1: I think the bigger thing there though, was just finding
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Speaker 1: how important it was to me in that moment, Like
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Speaker 1: how people say find your why, which is like kind
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Speaker 1: of cliche in a way, but that was definitely me
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Speaker 1: just finding my why. I was like, if I don't
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Speaker 1: do this, I'm going to be really miserable and I'm
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Speaker 1: not going to be a good mom. And I don't
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Speaker 1: want to say that there's not really I know that
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Speaker 1: I'm always yeah, yeah, but I won't be as happy
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Speaker 1: or as patient. And I wanted to enjoy the kids,
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Speaker 1: like you know.
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Speaker 2: And I think that that's such a beautiful takeaway and
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Speaker 2: definitely takes perspective to get to that point, because there's
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Speaker 2: that conflict of emotions a little bit, especially with young children,
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Speaker 2: about being away from your family for any period of time.
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Speaker 3: So so many.
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Speaker 2: Women that I have spoken to for the show felt
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Speaker 2: a sense of guilt by going out and maybe running
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Speaker 2: or going to a workout class or doing whatever self
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Speaker 2: care it is that they wanted to do at the time,
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Speaker 2: because that meant that they were away from their family unit.
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Speaker 2: But the reality was, to your point, that that little
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Speaker 2: bit of time allowed them to pour a little bit
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Speaker 2: of extra water into their cup so that they could
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Speaker 2: look at that cup and say this cup is half
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Speaker 2: full instead of this cup is half empty.
21:18
Speaker 1: Yes, that's exactly right, and I think that, you know,
21:22
Speaker 1: even though I felt guilty every time, the kids it
21:26
Speaker 1: became part of their routine as well, and they weren't
21:29
Speaker 1: want you know, it started with them being like whining
21:32
Speaker 1: and being upset and not understanding to now they're like, whoa,
21:36
Speaker 1: how many miles are you running? And what are we
21:39
Speaker 1: going to do afterward? And it's not that way. I
21:42
Speaker 1: don't feel guilty anymore because we're all kind of in
21:46
Speaker 1: it together in a way.
21:48
Speaker 2: So what were some of the other hurdles that you
21:51
Speaker 2: experienced from the get go when it came to going
21:55
Speaker 2: out every day? So were you going every day to
21:57
Speaker 2: run that same mile route?
21:59
Speaker 1: Yep, exact same one. And mainly that was because I
22:03
Speaker 1: just didn't have time and just the thought of driving
22:07
Speaker 1: somewhere else was so overwhelming to me to like find
22:10
Speaker 1: another place to run. I felt like any decision was
22:13
Speaker 1: gonna you know, I would get decision fatigue. So I'm
22:16
Speaker 1: like keeping everything the same, running that same route, running
22:20
Speaker 1: the same distance, And yeah, hurdles were really I didn't
22:24
Speaker 1: have the right shoes, which took me a long time
22:27
Speaker 1: to realize. So I was getting like shin splints. I
22:30
Speaker 1: felt like I should be able to go faster, which
22:33
Speaker 1: was really just a mental thing, like I didn't understand
22:36
Speaker 1: how that worked. Also, not seeing people or like being
22:42
Speaker 1: able to relate to anyone that was running slow or
22:46
Speaker 1: that looked like me. So yeah, I just felt like
22:48
Speaker 1: isolated and felt like I wasn't getting anywhere, which now
22:52
Speaker 1: that things I know now, I'm like, well, the like
22:57
Speaker 1: that's normal.
22:58
Speaker 2: There are so many people to this right now, myself included,
23:02
Speaker 2: that can totally sympathize and relate to being in that
23:05
Speaker 2: place feeling as though maybe they didn't see themselves as
23:09
Speaker 2: someone who quote unquote looked like a runner, so that
23:13
Speaker 2: for an extensive period of time prevented them from lacing
23:17
Speaker 2: up at all. So the lesson the takeaway in this story,
23:20
Speaker 2: aside from the fact that this provided you with some
23:23
Speaker 2: mental solace, was that you had the amount of bravery.
23:28
Speaker 2: You were brave enough to just start, and that in
23:32
Speaker 2: itself is such a sticking point for so many people.
23:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a big thing that I try
23:38
Speaker 1: and push is just that you can't, and also like
23:43
Speaker 1: taking the seriousness away from it at least to start,
23:49
Speaker 1: because if you're not going into it, if your why
23:52
Speaker 1: isn't I want to make this time an a marathon or
23:55
Speaker 1: I want to run this mile at this pace, then
23:59
Speaker 1: take this curiousness away because it's not going to be enjoyable.
24:03
Speaker 1: I feel like now they see me just going into
24:06
Speaker 1: running to like for mental sanity and just to have fun,
24:11
Speaker 1: it's way more approachable for them. And some people don't
24:14
Speaker 1: need that. Some people are like, Hey, I'm fast and
24:16
Speaker 1: I'm going to run fast, and I don't really need
24:19
Speaker 1: a happy person running in a banana to show me
24:22
Speaker 1: to have fun. But I do feel like this huge
24:26
Speaker 1: group out there is being overlooked that could really be
24:29
Speaker 1: brought into the sport by showing like, hey, not everyone
24:33
Speaker 1: serious and there's you know, all these benefits to just
24:37
Speaker 1: running for fun.
24:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's unfortunate that there are people who kind of
24:44
Speaker 2: shame those runners that are just in it for how
24:49
Speaker 2: it makes them.
24:49
Speaker 3: Feel, for the fun.
24:51
Speaker 2: They're not worried the runners themselves about stopping a bunch
24:56
Speaker 2: of times when they're on the move, because for them,
25:00
Speaker 2: it's not about how many times they stop it's simply
25:04
Speaker 2: about getting out there in the first place. So hearing
25:08
Speaker 2: more individuals like yourself that are saying, hey, I run,
25:13
Speaker 2: and I'm doing it for how it makes me feel.
25:15
Speaker 2: I'm doing it because it makes me feel better, it
25:19
Speaker 2: makes me it helps me show up better.
25:21
Speaker 3: Those stories are so important.
25:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree. I feel like a lot of people,
25:29
Speaker 1: even in this Pittsburgh half marathon that I ran the
25:33
Speaker 1: other week, the amount of people that came up to
25:36
Speaker 1: me while running and saying this was their first half
25:40
Speaker 1: that they signed up because of me, because I showed
25:42
Speaker 1: them that you didn't have to be a certain pace,
25:46
Speaker 1: you didn't have to run a certain pace to sign
25:48
Speaker 1: up for a race. I would like tear up every
25:50
Speaker 1: time because I'm like, this is my literal goal, Like
25:54
Speaker 1: this is what I'm trying to do, and you guys
25:56
Speaker 1: are you know, coming up and telling me these things.
25:59
Speaker 1: It's so rewarding to be able to be that person
26:04
Speaker 1: that I was looking for when I started running.
26:06
Speaker 3: Amen.
26:07
Speaker 2: So do you recall when you think back to that
26:11
Speaker 2: initial thirty day period, how long it took for you
26:15
Speaker 2: to notice a legitimate shift in how you were feeling
26:20
Speaker 2: about your body and emotionally.
26:24
Speaker 1: I really feel like by the end of the thirty days,
26:28
Speaker 1: I remember I posted every single day on YouTube, and
26:32
Speaker 1: it took me two years, by the way, to go
26:34
Speaker 1: back and watch some of those. I hate watching my videos.
26:37
Speaker 1: I hate listening to myself talk, so but I was
26:41
Speaker 1: genuinely curious because here I'm trying to get new runners
26:44
Speaker 1: to be comfortable where they're at, and I was that.
26:49
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I'm going to go and just force
26:52
Speaker 1: myself to watch some of them. And I think I
26:55
Speaker 1: saw a shift at like the two week mark, or
26:58
Speaker 1: maybe right after the house points, so that was maybe
27:02
Speaker 1: like fifteen or sixteen runs in. I started to be like, wow,
27:07
Speaker 1: I think I can complete this month, and I've dealt
27:11
Speaker 1: with so much in this month and still got these
27:14
Speaker 1: runs in. So I started to piece together these little
27:18
Speaker 1: bits of progress. To some people they would be nothing,
27:23
Speaker 1: but to me they were huge. So I just kind
27:26
Speaker 1: of held onto those, and I'm like, I felt like
27:28
Speaker 1: that's what really propelled me forward.
27:30
Speaker 2: Right, So to get really specific, because to your point,
27:35
Speaker 2: helping people see themselves in this story, what was the
27:39
Speaker 2: language like in the first two.
27:42
Speaker 1: Weeks, Oh, the first two weeks, it was very much
27:47
Speaker 1: like I am sick of I think I literally used
27:52
Speaker 1: the words have you ever been so sick of yourself
27:56
Speaker 1: that you have to do something about it? Like I
27:58
Speaker 1: said that in one of the first videos, and I
28:01
Speaker 1: was like, this is my something I'm trying to do,
28:05
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my god. I was really hard
28:08
Speaker 1: on myself, Like I was genuinely at that point of
28:11
Speaker 1: just like a low point, and I'm like, I have
28:15
Speaker 1: to go up from here. So yeah, I would say
28:19
Speaker 1: things like that, and then toward the end, like after
28:23
Speaker 1: that halfway point, it was more like, hey, we're doing it,
28:26
Speaker 1: or hey, look at this scenery here. I started to
28:30
Speaker 1: crack jokes. I was like kind of getting my sense
28:34
Speaker 1: of humor back, which I didn't have for a while.
28:38
Speaker 1: My creativity was coming back, and that all those things.
28:43
Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, I'm really feeling like myself. And
28:46
Speaker 1: I could see that come out in those later videos.
28:49
Speaker 1: And obviously, now.
28:51
Speaker 2: What's really beautiful about this is it paints a holistic
28:54
Speaker 2: picture about not only the benefit of movement, but the
28:57
Speaker 2: benefit of movement coupled with other things that can help
29:01
Speaker 2: us navigate when we are going through hurdles or perhaps
29:05
Speaker 2: in your case, postpartum depression. So talking to someone about
29:10
Speaker 2: how you're feeling, moving your body, working on that inner
29:15
Speaker 2: self talk so that it's not all negative, negative, negative, negative.
29:19
Speaker 2: All of it contributes to the greater puzzle of being
29:22
Speaker 2: able to move forward and get away from those feelings
29:26
Speaker 2: of hopelessness, frustration, etc.
29:29
Speaker 1: That's such a good point that it's not one thing,
29:32
Speaker 1: like if I just ran, that wouldn't have to completely changed.
29:37
Speaker 1: Like I still had to talk. I still had to
29:39
Speaker 1: talk my feelings out. I still had to you know,
29:43
Speaker 1: get fresh air. I still had to eat a little better,
29:45
Speaker 1: drink enough water, like all those pieces, and running, yeah,
29:49
Speaker 1: absolutely was like that final piece that just everything clicked.
29:54
Speaker 2: I think it's also really beautiful when you reflect now
29:59
Speaker 2: looking back on the interactions that you've had and the
30:04
Speaker 2: opportunity that you have come across to help other individuals
30:09
Speaker 2: on their journey when it comes to loving movement you
30:13
Speaker 2: have chosen. I use that word very specifically and intentionally
30:17
Speaker 2: to highlight the benefits and the good when everyone listening
30:23
Speaker 2: to this knows that there are some negatives, including unsolicited opinions,
30:30
Speaker 2: people weighing in on how they may feel about the
30:33
Speaker 2: way that you look or what you're doing. Talk to
30:36
Speaker 2: us a little bit about how you navigate that side
30:39
Speaker 2: of the coin.
30:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, that side I don't put too much energy into
30:44
Speaker 1: because very early on I felt the energy shift after
30:49
Speaker 1: I read a negative comment and the energy shift after
30:52
Speaker 1: I read a supportive comment, and I didn't need to
30:56
Speaker 1: really think much about it. I was like, I'm not
31:00
Speaker 1: engaging with that, Like I just kind of mentally check
31:03
Speaker 1: out because it's just not part of my mission and
31:07
Speaker 1: what I'm doing. A supportive comment absolutely because someone else
31:12
Speaker 1: that might not feel comfortable running is going to go
31:14
Speaker 1: to that comment section and read a supportive comment and
31:18
Speaker 1: be like, wow, look at this community. There really there
31:20
Speaker 1: are people that like what she's doing. So those I
31:24
Speaker 1: absolutely engage with, I will pin them I reply. But yeah,
31:28
Speaker 1: I have definitely like replied. I've replied to a negative
31:34
Speaker 1: comment via video and it said it was probably like
31:38
Speaker 1: I always say, ten year old boy, but just a
31:41
Speaker 1: really immature person who probably doesn't run. I walk faster
31:47
Speaker 1: than or I can walk faster than that, or something
31:50
Speaker 1: like that about my mile time because I'm not shy
31:54
Speaker 1: about showing my watch at the end, and you know,
31:57
Speaker 1: if I walked up a hill, that pace is going
31:59
Speaker 1: to be really slow. But I don't care. I want
32:02
Speaker 1: people to see that that's somebody, a real, real human,
32:07
Speaker 1: that is their real pace. And so I replied to
32:13
Speaker 1: that video just to show people. I mean, I replied
32:18
Speaker 1: to that comment just to show people like how little
32:21
Speaker 1: it does for anybody in the grand scheme of things.
32:24
Speaker 1: And so I did that once and I left it
32:27
Speaker 1: at that. And to be honest, I really don't get
32:29
Speaker 1: those comments a lot, unless it's like a brand wants
32:35
Speaker 1: to like boost a video, you know what I mean,
32:37
Speaker 1: like a sponsored post, and the second they boost it,
32:42
Speaker 1: I don't read comments. And it works out beautifully because
32:47
Speaker 1: I've already replied to all of my people and we're
32:51
Speaker 1: just vibing in the comment session, and then as soon
32:54
Speaker 1: as it's boosted, I'm like, see, yeah, not even looking
32:57
Speaker 1: at it.
32:58
Speaker 2: You have the strategy down. I do a tea now, yeap.
33:03
Speaker 3: So the story goes.
33:04
Speaker 2: Then after the thirty days, clearly you continued running, because
33:09
Speaker 2: it's been about two years now at least. Talk to
33:13
Speaker 2: us about what the journey has been like since that
33:16
Speaker 2: initial thirty days for you.
33:18
Speaker 1: Since the initial thirty days. So after after that is
33:22
Speaker 1: when I started to realize how much I liked filming
33:25
Speaker 1: my runs. I got like a lighter camera, I got
33:28
Speaker 1: a GoPro I got I started using my phone, and
33:33
Speaker 1: that's when I'm like, I could just post. I could
33:35
Speaker 1: just cut this up in a quick little clips and
33:38
Speaker 1: put it on TikTok and see what happens. That's when
33:41
Speaker 1: that whole thing happened. So like, when I started running,
33:46
Speaker 1: I had no following of anything because I would like
33:49
Speaker 1: send my videos to my friends or my mom or like,
33:53
Speaker 1: look at this. I had some friends on YouTube that
33:56
Speaker 1: would watch. But really that was the extent of my
34:00
Speaker 1: social media posting. But TikTok really blew it out of
34:03
Speaker 1: the water, and I met the most relatable people on there.
34:08
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that you could grow to where you
34:11
Speaker 1: could do this as a job Like that was out
34:15
Speaker 1: of the realm of my knowledge. I guess like I
34:18
Speaker 1: just assumed someone like me, a average looking mom of
34:24
Speaker 1: three that lives in the middle of nowhere, is not
34:27
Speaker 1: going to be like you know, you look at Casey Neistat,
34:31
Speaker 1: He's a like, very interesting person. He lived in New
34:34
Speaker 1: York City, he's a filmmaker. These people have exciting lives
34:38
Speaker 1: that I saw doing this social media thing full time.
34:42
Speaker 1: So I'm like, that is not me. That's the last
34:45
Speaker 1: thing that would happen here. But I still kept posting
34:49
Speaker 1: because I'm like, this is very therapeutic and it's creative
34:54
Speaker 1: and kind of just like made me feel good. Then
34:57
Speaker 1: I started getting brands like fallowllowing me or Team USA
35:01
Speaker 1: followed me, and I'm like, is there a bigger thing
35:06
Speaker 1: going on here? Or is everyone just laughing at me?
35:09
Speaker 1: You know that was a thought I had as well,
35:13
Speaker 1: But yeah, that was a big shift in the storyline.
35:17
Speaker 2: When a brand like Team USA follows you, And I
35:20
Speaker 2: ask you this, because we were just talking about time
35:23
Speaker 2: not being something that you're conscious of. Does it make
35:26
Speaker 2: you feel some kind of way when you may be
35:30
Speaker 2: considered or working on certain opportunities where other athletes that
35:36
Speaker 2: they identify as a professional athlete this is what they do.
35:41
Speaker 2: You are in the same sandbox with them, because arguably,
35:44
Speaker 2: although yes, you are a content creator, you are also
35:47
Speaker 2: at this point a professional athlete.
35:50
Speaker 1: I look at a professional athlete as someone who like
35:53
Speaker 1: competes to win an event, but I do, yeah, I
36:00
Speaker 1: do get a little worried about that sometimes, But then
36:05
Speaker 1: I also look at it like any athlete can if
36:10
Speaker 1: they care enough can build an audience. Arguably, it would
36:15
Speaker 1: be a lot easier for them to build an audience
36:17
Speaker 1: because they do amazing things and they could also do
36:22
Speaker 1: what I'm doing. I think they have more competition because
36:25
Speaker 1: there's a lot of athletes, but there's not a lot
36:28
Speaker 1: of content creators that are just like out there showing
36:32
Speaker 1: their crotch sweat and their shorts riding up their thighs.
36:37
Speaker 1: So I think that's like kind of we're maybe getting
36:41
Speaker 1: paid by the same brands, but they're for very different reasons. Yea,
36:46
Speaker 1: And I look at also, you know, there's athletes like
36:48
Speaker 1: Molly's Sidell and Emma Coburn, and I mainly follow the
36:54
Speaker 1: women just because I don't know, they created a following
36:58
Speaker 1: in there they get brand, you know what I mean. So,
37:01
Speaker 1: and Emma has a cookbook like, so I don't feel
37:06
Speaker 1: like I'm taking away from it because anyone can, you know,
37:10
Speaker 1: build a social following, and that's what the brands want.
37:12
Speaker 1: They want more eyes on the products. So you crossing
37:16
Speaker 1: a finish line first does make like a shoe look
37:19
Speaker 1: really good, but how many people are seeing you cross
37:21
Speaker 1: the finish line first versus how many people are seeing
37:25
Speaker 1: you know, like a viral video with the you know
37:29
Speaker 1: brand being showcased, and.
37:31
Speaker 2: How many people see someone crossing the finish line first
37:35
Speaker 2: and can relate to that for themselves, Right.
37:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think. I think when you look at I,
37:40
Speaker 1: I totally I see it from the brand side of things,
37:43
Speaker 1: and it is really they're finally seeing that untapped market,
37:47
Speaker 1: which is beginner runners. It's the I would argue, bigger
37:52
Speaker 1: than the proficient runners, Like there's there. You don't even
37:58
Speaker 1: know that they're they don't even know they're runner yet,
38:00
Speaker 1: let's put it that way. So they're not even in
38:03
Speaker 1: the market at all. They're going to need a lot
38:05
Speaker 1: of stuff. They're gonna need the socks, they're going to
38:07
Speaker 1: need the shoes and the sunglasses, I'll watch everything. Whereas
38:11
Speaker 1: these runners that have been running for a while, they
38:14
Speaker 1: already have their stuff and they know what they like,
38:16
Speaker 1: so you can't really sway them into changing a brand
38:20
Speaker 1: or something like that. Whereas this huge market you can
38:24
Speaker 1: be like, hey, here's this nice shoe. I like it,
38:28
Speaker 1: it's wide, it's you know, it's supportive. So I do
38:32
Speaker 1: feel like but to answer your question, to sum it up,
38:37
Speaker 1: I did have a lot of guilt when I've got
38:40
Speaker 1: my first brand deal. But then I kind of rationalized it, like, oh, okay,
38:45
Speaker 1: wait a second. They can have a social following too,
38:48
Speaker 1: And although the fact that professional runners, it's unfair to
38:55
Speaker 1: them that when they get signed it's not a lot
38:59
Speaker 1: of mon I feel like that's a way different story
39:03
Speaker 1: than a brand deal, like a brand paying them for
39:06
Speaker 1: a campaign, which is what I do. I'm obviously not
39:10
Speaker 1: getting signed by a company to like, you know, run
39:14
Speaker 1: a race, but that to me is unfair because you
39:18
Speaker 1: do look at I mean, obviously football players have like
39:22
Speaker 1: a huge audience and stuff, but these people, this is
39:26
Speaker 1: their life, like they're running, their training, their nutrition, everything,
39:30
Speaker 1: and you're gonna pay them like thirty thousand dollars for
39:33
Speaker 1: a whole year. Yeah, So I feel like that. I mean,
39:36
Speaker 1: that's separate from me, but I do feel like I
39:39
Speaker 1: see that as an issue.
39:40
Speaker 2: Put this into the world is how I feel we
39:42
Speaker 2: should be paying athletes more. Yes, no, and I please.
39:46
Speaker 2: That's certainly a massive conversation in sport right now, especially
39:50
Speaker 2: between pay discrepancies, especially when it comes to pay discrepancies
39:54
Speaker 2: between men and women, and something that hopefully will see
39:58
Speaker 2: some upward movement within the next few years.
40:01
Speaker 3: For sure these days when you.
40:04
Speaker 2: Are reflect on how you're feeling, where your head is at,
40:07
Speaker 2: how your mental state is, how you doing.
40:10
Speaker 1: I feel very at peace now. I do feel like
40:15
Speaker 1: from September of last year till well, it's kind of
40:19
Speaker 1: still going, but I've caught up now, I feel like.
40:23
Speaker 1: But the New York Times article that came out that
40:28
Speaker 1: led to like the Today Show stuff and like People
40:31
Speaker 1: magazine and the press whirlwind, which I had zero like
40:39
Speaker 1: preparation for or experience in on top of like keeping
40:43
Speaker 1: up with my content and trying to do brand deals
40:47
Speaker 1: and pay attention to my family, and like that whole
40:52
Speaker 1: whirlwind I felt like wasn't even real at if you
40:56
Speaker 1: want to really talk about another mental health thing, I
40:59
Speaker 1: don't know what that was, but I should probably go
41:02
Speaker 1: to therapy to talk that out. Because I was on
41:07
Speaker 1: set at the Today Show sitting with Hoda and Savannah
41:11
Speaker 1: and genuinely didn't know if I was actually sitting there.
41:16
Speaker 1: Like that's how disconnected I was. I was so confused,
41:20
Speaker 1: so confused.
41:21
Speaker 2: And the New York Times article that you reference here
41:25
Speaker 2: the headline for a TikTok running star, it's all uphill
41:31
Speaker 2: from here.
41:33
Speaker 1: I love it.
41:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems as though it accurately depicts where maybe
41:39
Speaker 2: you felt like you had to go after this drop.
41:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was. I just didn't. I guess I
41:46
Speaker 1: didn't anticipate it because first of all, I thought that
41:49
Speaker 1: the New York Times interview. I thought it would a
41:53
Speaker 1: not end up in the like New York Times at all,
41:57
Speaker 1: And if it did, I thought it was going to
41:59
Speaker 1: be like one of those little things you see on
42:01
Speaker 1: the side a sidebar. Yeah, the sidebar, and they have
42:05
Speaker 1: like little blurbs. I thought I would have like a
42:07
Speaker 1: little quote in there or something. I did not know
42:10
Speaker 1: it was going to be an entire article. I think
42:13
Speaker 1: she said that, but I was. I just didn't think
42:16
Speaker 1: that that happens. So yeah, it was just very much
42:20
Speaker 1: imposter syndrome, which I still definitely have, just not as
42:24
Speaker 1: bad and not being prepared for. I don't know how
42:29
Speaker 1: to I didn't know how to interview or sit on
42:32
Speaker 1: a set or where the lights are, what camera to
42:35
Speaker 1: look in. People have coaches for that, which I recently learned.
42:39
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yes, the media tour is coming your way.
42:46
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. And that was that was wild, wild wild.
42:51
Speaker 2: Well, I really love everything that you've said here about
42:54
Speaker 2: your journey, and I think also, what has been really
42:58
Speaker 2: awesome from you know, my seat over here in Brooklyn
43:03
Speaker 2: is watching you just get really honest about that. It
43:08
Speaker 2: is something that you love now, it's something that you
43:10
Speaker 2: love to do, but that doesn't mean that you don't
43:13
Speaker 2: have difficult or hard days. So for someone listen to
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Speaker 2: this that is in that initial phages of phases of
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Speaker 2: trying to become a more regular runner, what advice do
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Speaker 2: you have for them?
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Speaker 1: I would definitely say. I know people say don't compare
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Speaker 1: yourself to others, but I say, don't compare yourself to yourself,
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Speaker 1: because that's something that I did at first. I would
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Speaker 1: have like a good run and I was shocked that
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Speaker 1: the next run was like horrible, and I'm like, it
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Speaker 1: would really get me down. I would question myself. I'm like,
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Speaker 1: how did you know that run was great? And now
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Speaker 1: this one's bad and I'm never going to get better.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, like don't even don't even compare to yourself,
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Speaker 1: and also just trust the process. I felt like my
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Speaker 1: negative self talk was so harmful when I was training
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Speaker 1: for my first marathon, and then when you physically do it,
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Speaker 1: you're you're like Oh my body can do that. So
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Speaker 1: now I'm like, just trust the process. Just get your run.
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Speaker 1: And you have a scheduled run, just do it. You know,
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Speaker 1: get that dopamine.
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Speaker 3: Get it.
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Speaker 2: Uh.
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Speaker 3: Give a favorite piece of running gear.
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Speaker 1: Oh, I really rely on music and podcasts, so probably
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Speaker 1: my headphones. I wear shocks headphones. Yeah, I because I'm
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Speaker 1: trying to think what would I turn around for if
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Speaker 1: I forgot it?
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Speaker 2: Great question, and I think it's those. Okay, all right,
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Speaker 2: shocks headphones. What music are you listening to?
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Speaker 1: I have a goat my go to playlist on Spotify
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Speaker 1: if you're curious. It's missus Space Cadet runs. And I
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Speaker 1: didn't realize that runners listen to like technoe do whatever
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Speaker 1: I go. I would like try and search for running playlists.
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Speaker 1: It was all these like I don't know. I guess
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Speaker 1: it's called techno. I don't really know, but mine is
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Speaker 1: not that. And it's there's anything from like old school
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Speaker 1: rap to like early two thousand's indie music, anything with
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Speaker 1: like an upbeat thing that gives me energy. That's my
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Speaker 1: that's my vibe.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, final question for you, my friend. Right now,
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Speaker 2: you have an opportunity looking back on your journey. Knowing
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Speaker 2: what you know now to offer yourself a piece of
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Speaker 2: advice back on that first day when you were in
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Speaker 2: that low point when you decided to lace up your seat,
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Speaker 2: what do you tell yourself now?
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Speaker 1: I think I would just tell myself it's going to
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Speaker 1: be worth it, because that's what I's That was the
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Speaker 1: big thing about getting started. What is the point of this?
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Speaker 2: Like?
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Speaker 3: Is it worth it?
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Speaker 1: Is it worth pushing through when I was just so
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Speaker 1: tired or I didn't want to do it, or I
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Speaker 1: just wanted to watch a movie and not think about anything,
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Speaker 1: Like what is it worth it? You know? Is it
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Speaker 1: worth it to buy these shoes?
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Speaker 3: Yeah? So I would.
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Speaker 1: I think that's what I would tell myself. It's worth it.
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Speaker 3: Just keep going, It's worth it, Just keep going.
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Speaker 2: Aarin, I'm so grateful for your time and for you
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Speaker 2: sharing your story with us. How do the hurdlers follow
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Speaker 2: along with you? How do they keep up with you?
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Speaker 2: Give us all the details?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: So well, I think the easiest way I've been saying
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Speaker 1: lately is just if you google Aaron Asar because my
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Speaker 1: Instagram shows up and my TikTok. But yeah, TikTok is
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Speaker 1: at missus dot space. Cadet and Instagram is at I'm
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Speaker 1: missus space Cadet, and that's the same on.
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Speaker 3: Twitter, And where's the name come from?
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Speaker 1: When I was younger, I lost my lunch money or
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Speaker 1: I was on some like school trip and I told
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Speaker 1: my friend's mom that I lost it, and she was like,
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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Eron, you're such a space cadet, which
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Speaker 1: I don't think people say anymore, but it just means
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Speaker 1: you're like really spacey and you don't like pay attention
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Speaker 1: and stuff, which is very true. And as I got older,
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Speaker 1: I'm like, I absolutely am that, unfortunately, and I'll just
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Speaker 1: own it.
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Speaker 2: What do you hope that people walk away from looking
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Speaker 2: at your content with.
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Speaker 1: A renewed sense of fun? I said the other day
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Speaker 1: that PR now stands for party runner, And yeah, just
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Speaker 1: like even a serious runner that might be going through
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Speaker 1: a rough patch where they're like not wanting to get
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Speaker 1: out there or they're feeling down, just to like be
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Speaker 1: a little uplifted and go out there with like a
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Speaker 1: new mindset.
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Speaker 3: I love that. Aaron's or I'm so grateful for your time.
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Speaker 2: I'm over at Hurdle Podcast at Emily a Body Another
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Speaker 2: hurdle conquered catch you guys next time.