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2127- Love After Lockup- Relationship Rehab (s1e1) "Walls within Walls" with Keisha · Pink Shade: Reality TV with Mary Payne

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody. Welcome to Pink Shade. Guess what? Mugshot Monday
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  Speaker 1: is back.
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  Speaker 2: Kinda.
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  Speaker 3: Kinda.
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  Speaker 1: Kinda. Kinda. Thank the Lord.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Lord.
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  Speaker 2: Guys.
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  Speaker 3: Because they really gave us the bottom of the barrel
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  Speaker 3: replacement shows.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they really have. So this is Love After Lockup
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  Speaker 1: Relationship Rehab. This is a new show. It's a spinoff.
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  Speaker 1: They're even saying season one, episode one. They're not doing
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  Speaker 1: like season seven, episode 406 like they normally. Yeah. They're
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  Speaker 1: giving it its own section.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, good.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. I have to say, now, I don't know Dr. Ish.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know him. I've never seen him.
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  Speaker 2: Dr. Ish is the ish.
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  Speaker 1: But he's doing it.
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  Speaker 2: He's a real doctor.
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  Speaker 1: This is crazy because, you know, we watch several seasons
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  Speaker 1: of 90 Day Fiance, The Last Resort, where they have these,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they have a sex therapist. They have a
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  Speaker 1: life coach.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think they help anyone.
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  Speaker 1: No, because it's all about like the people in the
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  Speaker 1: castle and the drama and stuff. And it really isn't
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  Speaker 1: about the therapy, which is what we want to see.
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  Speaker 1: But this, we get right to it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Dr. Ish, you know, he's been on a couple
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  Speaker 3: of we TV shows like Marriage Boot Camp. Yeah. And
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  Speaker 3: he also works with Mama June and her family.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, God.
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  Speaker 3: And Dr. Ish is not. I remember this one episode
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  Speaker 3: of Mama June. He did a session and one of
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  Speaker 3: the people on the show, husband, Josh. Totally broke all
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  Speaker 3: the way down. Like he, he really wants his clients
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  Speaker 3: to be better. It is not all for TV. I
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  Speaker 3: will say that now that Jackie, he had on that's questionable.
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  Speaker 1: I agree. The jacket was odd.
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  Speaker 3: Don't know what was going on with that, but he
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  Speaker 3: knows what he's doing. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: The jacket's a little loud for television. I feel like
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  Speaker 1: they tell you generally.
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  Speaker 3: It was a little loud for life. I mean, unless
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  Speaker 3: you're like, I don't know, a graffiti artist and you're
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  Speaker 3: displaying your jacket as an example.
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  Speaker 2: Of your art, it was a lot.
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  Speaker 1: It was a lot. I agree.
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  Speaker 3: And he doesn't dress like that. Oh.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. He said new show who this. I'm going to just...
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  Speaker 1: I'm going.
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  Speaker 2: To guess so.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I need you to get it together, Dr.
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  Speaker 1: Ish.
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  Speaker 2: Don't wear that jacket again.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Well, they've got eight days. So hopefully we'll see eight
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  Speaker 1: different looks.
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  Speaker 3: Not this one.
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  Speaker 2: We don't need like different variations of this jacket. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we'll see. It'll be interesting as we go. Well,
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  Speaker 1: let's get started because I thought... I'm going to just
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  Speaker 1: say I thought off the bat this was great. And
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  Speaker 1: this is what we needed. We needed a little mix up.
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  Speaker 1: I'm enjoying it. I'm enjoying seeing some of these couples.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't say most, but it'll be interesting to see
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  Speaker 1: what happens here for me, at least.
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  Speaker 3: I honestly felt like none of them were on the
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  Speaker 3: right reality TV show.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, really?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I feel like Alexis should have been
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  Speaker 3: on Worst Cooks in America.
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  Speaker 2: Girl, we ain't forgot about that bacon.
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  Speaker 3: We almost killed you, Julius, and that unborn child because
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  Speaker 3: it was raw. I think Melissa needs to be on
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  Speaker 3: botch because she cannot get the nose right. I wish
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  Speaker 3: she would have stuck to her original nose. Joey needs
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  Speaker 3: to be on celebrity rehab.
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  Speaker 1: Except for he's not a celebrity, but yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, he thinks he is.
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  Speaker 1: Michael....
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  Speaker 3: He needs to be on a fitness show and a
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  Speaker 3: show about receding hairlines because what the fuck is going
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  Speaker 3: on here? Justine needs to be on what not to wear.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they've got options of shows they can be on.
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  Speaker 3: That's all I'm going to say.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, Keisha.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's focus on this show. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Let's focus on this one.
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  Speaker 1: All right. So we open. So this is season one,
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  Speaker 1: episode one, and it's Walls Within Walls. Okay. So I
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  Speaker 1: wish that while they were doing their therapy, they would
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  Speaker 1: have said, because I understand the premise is like you
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  Speaker 1: got out of prison, but you still feel like you're,
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  Speaker 1: you know, blah, blah, blah. I get the premise of
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  Speaker 1: walls within walls. I wish they would have at least
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  Speaker 1: referenced this, but you can't have it all. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: there are, there are nine episodes of this.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So we open with Dr.
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  Speaker 3: Ish.
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  Speaker 1: So he's Dr. Ish Major, and he's telling us 75%
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  Speaker 1: of people leaving prison go back within three years. And
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  Speaker 1: there's one thing that is proven to cut that number
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  Speaker 1: in half, and that is a stable, healthy relationship. So Dr.
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  Speaker 1: Ish tells us about himself, which was good because I
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  Speaker 1: don't know him. He is a board-certified psychiatrist and relationship expert.
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  Speaker 1: He has spent his career working with all walks of life,
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  Speaker 1: So he built a program for the love after lockup
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  Speaker 1: couples to see if they could stay together and stay
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  Speaker 1: out of prison. The survival instincts that save them on
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  Speaker 1: the inside are the same skills that destroy them on
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  Speaker 1: the outside. Five couples, eight days, one chance to do
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  Speaker 1: the real work. This is love after lockup relationship rehab.
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  Speaker 1: And I said, already, doctor, it's just the best therapist
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  Speaker 1: we've ever seen on television.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, just wait.
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  Speaker 3: You're going to love him. He's so good. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited about this. So we see all the couples
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  Speaker 1: are headed to Los Angeles. And first up is Julius
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  Speaker 1: and Alexis. Now people are like record scratch. Who dat?
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  Speaker 1: Who are these people? They were only on one season.
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  Speaker 1: If you recall their storyline started with, he had two girls.
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  Speaker 1: He had that, that white girl that was a shape shifter.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, she wasn't white.
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  Speaker 1: She wasn't. No. Oh, okay. I thought she was. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: whatever her name was.
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  Speaker 2: But she was a shapeshifter.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, she was.
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  Speaker 1: She was completely different in every single photo you saw
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  Speaker 1: of her. Like, fat, skinny, different hair color, different face,
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  Speaker 1: different everything.
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  Speaker 2: Hair, everything.
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  Speaker 3: Teeth.
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  Speaker 2: It just was all over the place with her.
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  Speaker 3: We just... She catfished us and we're professionals.
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  Speaker 1: I apologize if you hear dogs barking in the background
• 6:47
  Speaker 1: because that is my house. And I do have another
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  Speaker 1: adult here who is supposed to be taking care of
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  Speaker 1: the dogs. Okay. So they'll stop in a minute. I
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  Speaker 1: have to imagine maybe food is being delivered. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know why they're doing it.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So Julius and Alexis. Okay. So they were on season
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  Speaker 1: six of Love After Lockup. He had this other girlfriend.
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  Speaker 1: Since then, Alexis has had a baby. We pretty much
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  Speaker 1: did not think he didn't like either girl. He liked
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  Speaker 1: girl number one the least because he dumped her right away.
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  Speaker 1: But I guess he liked Alexis. Okay. She was getting her.
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  Speaker 1: She was like a nursing assistant where she would go
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  Speaker 1: and sort of like sit with old people at night.
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  Speaker 1: She was getting her nursing degree at the time. Nursing degree.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: So we knew she had some sense.
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  Speaker 3: Not good sense because she just dated a prisoner and
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  Speaker 3: immediately got pregnant by him.
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  Speaker 1: So she's had the baby. Is it a girl? It's
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  Speaker 1: a girl.
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  Speaker 3: Her name is Juliana.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. I hate when they do that.
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  Speaker 3: She even named the baby after him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Julius.
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  Speaker 1: Julius.
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  Speaker 3: Julius. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: She says their biggest problem is I was like, where
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  Speaker 1: do we start?
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  Speaker 3: Let's start with the face tattoos. Let's get the prison
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  Speaker 3: part out of it. Let's go straight to the face tattoos.
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  Speaker 3: And the fact that he cannot speak. He doesn't know
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  Speaker 3: how to speak.
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  Speaker 1: No, God bless him. Their biggest problem is communication and
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  Speaker 1: their definition of cheating. And he goes, I'm not out
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  Speaker 1: here doing, I'm just entertaining.
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  Speaker 3: That's cheating.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. They arrive at the cast hotel, and we see, next,
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  Speaker 1: Melissa and Louie. Melissa and Louie, together four years, engaged
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  Speaker 1: two years. They know each other from high school, then
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  Speaker 1: they lost touch, and then he reached out to her
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  Speaker 1: during his last year of his 10-year prison sentence.
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  Speaker 3: Because he didn't know where to stay when he got out.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't want to stay with fucking Donna.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. They've been together ever since. Now, if you guys
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  Speaker 1: aren't familiar and didn't know their story, she was like
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  Speaker 1: fangirl over him because he was like the cool guy
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  Speaker 1: in high school and she was the nerd.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: So she thought it was great that this cool guy
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  Speaker 1: from high school liked her. I have always thought they
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  Speaker 1: seemed to be a very stable couple.
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  Speaker 2: I think that they are.
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  Speaker 3: Now, what they will do is teach you how to
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  Speaker 3: squeeze every dollar out of WeTV. Because there's absolutely no
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  Speaker 3: reason for them to be on this show.
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  Speaker 2: It's just fabricated.
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  Speaker 1: I think so, too. And I think they're like, we've
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  Speaker 1: got to bring some fan favorites on so people will watch.
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  Speaker 3: I agree. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And they are fan favorite.
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  Speaker 1: So she says, we need to figure out how to communicate.
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  Speaker 1: We're planning on getting married. But luckily, we get a
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  Speaker 1: couple of clips of his mom, fucking Donna.
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  Speaker 2: Fucking Donna.
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  Speaker 1: I would love. And now we do also think she
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  Speaker 1: sort of started leaning into her personality towards the end
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  Speaker 1: when she got popular on the show. But she is funny.
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  Speaker 1: And she goes, we have to get on the same
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  Speaker 1: page and figure out your mom. um it's like i
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  Speaker 1: have to be number one he goes you are you
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  Speaker 1: are my number one what are you talking about and
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  Speaker 1: she goes not in her eyes and he's like we're
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  Speaker 1: not here to talk about my mother but.
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  Speaker 3: I mean they don't even live in the same state
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  Speaker 3: as her anymore i know if you answer the phone
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  Speaker 3: just don't answer the phone decline um.
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  Speaker 1: So Melissa meets Julius and Alexis and she says, I
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  Speaker 1: already have an opinion that he's a player, you know,
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  Speaker 1: after seeing their season.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Duh.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: He's really young too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I didn't write down their ages as we went
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  Speaker 1: and I should have done that.
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  Speaker 3: He is young and he's been in prison the majority
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  Speaker 3: of his adult life.
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  Speaker 2: Adult life.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Next up, we have Michael and Justine. That's Montana Mills.
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  Speaker 1: He says, we were together three and a half years
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  Speaker 1: while I was in prison. And she says, yeah, with
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  Speaker 1: all our responsibilities, it is hard for us to pour
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  Speaker 1: anything into our relationship because we have nine kids. Now,
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  Speaker 1: they started off with seven. So they had two on purpose.
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  Speaker 2: They had three.
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  Speaker 1: They had three?
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  Speaker 3: They've got a millionaire.
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  Speaker 1: He had four.
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  Speaker 3: She had three.
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  Speaker 1: Right, he had four, she had three, and then they
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  Speaker 1: on purpose had two.
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  Speaker 3: I thought it was three babies. The little girl, Manhattan Barbie.
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  Speaker 3: Manhattan Barbie. And then a little boy, but I thought
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  Speaker 3: they had another one. But maybe it was just the two.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because he had... He went in with four, and
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  Speaker 1: she went in with three. Yeah. And then they had
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  Speaker 1: the two. Manhattan Barbie and Millionaire Barbie.
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  Speaker 3: Millionaire. Billionaire. I don't know. Something like that.
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  Speaker 1: Million is what they're calling him.
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  Speaker 2: Million. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: It's so stupid. So they need to work on their
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  Speaker 1: parenting style. And she says, you know, I'm always stuck
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  Speaker 1: between the kids and my husband and none of them
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  Speaker 1: make it easy on me. But I think I think
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  Speaker 1: she looks good. I mean, I know you don't love
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  Speaker 1: her clothes, but I think she looks good.
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  Speaker 3: Well, at least they're not, you know, looking like a
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  Speaker 3: construction crew out there like they normally do with the
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  Speaker 3: neon vest and the matching.
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  Speaker 1: The matching. And all of that.
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  Speaker 3: But no, she looks horrible. The outfit is, no matter
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  Speaker 3: what size she is, she just does not know how
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  Speaker 3: to dress at all. Because what was that?
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  Speaker 1: Remind me what she was wearing. I can't even remember. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: it was like a bodysuit. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. It was ill-fitting.
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  Speaker 3: She could have looked so much better in something else, but.
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  Speaker 2: That's Justine.
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  Speaker 1: So they get in the van and they're like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: when we saw you walking in, it looked like you
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  Speaker 1: were carrying like a poster. So obviously it was a bag.
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  Speaker 1: And she goes, no, it was my stripper pole, which
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  Speaker 1: is hilarious. I guess I was like, I guess you
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  Speaker 1: could just set up a stripper pole in your hotel room.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm bringing mine to Lieberfest this Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, great. So now we see Joey and Kimberly. Now,
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  Speaker 1: they have known each other their whole lives. They messed
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  Speaker 1: around in high school. They got together in 2018. She goes,
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  Speaker 1: we have two kids.
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  Speaker 3: Why would you say that?
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  Speaker 1: That is not true. That is not true. Those are
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  Speaker 1: not his kids. No, they're her kids. And he's been
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  Speaker 1: out of prison since 2023. He's relapsed, gone to rehab.
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  Speaker 1: They got married. He got arrested. He relapsed again. And
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  Speaker 1: she says, we've been through more than most people go
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  Speaker 1: through in 20 years. And at this point, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: sure what's next. Well, The world will tell you, girl.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he's so it literally looks like someone just
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  Speaker 3: got him out of the morgue. That is how lifeless
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  Speaker 3: and pale that he looks right now. And he looks
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  Speaker 3: high as a kite.
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  Speaker 1: He's he's not doing well. And I don't I don't
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  Speaker 1: understand her because I think this is the best she's
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  Speaker 1: ever looked. She looked.
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  Speaker 3: So clearly she's had a weight loss journey, but I
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  Speaker 3: think she's also stressed the fuck out. So yeah, she's
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  Speaker 3: going to be thin and looking.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Like her body is her hair. Everything looks healthy except
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  Speaker 3: for her face. Her face looks like what she's been
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  Speaker 3: going through.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. God bless.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So the talking head Louie says, I know Joey has
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  Speaker 1: struggled with addiction, so I can really understand that. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sober and clean, but he doesn't look like he's
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  Speaker 1: in the best condition. And Melissa goes, he looks fucked up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he does.
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• 16:31
  Speaker 1: it was Pink Shade. It is the best way to
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: support our show. So then we see Brittany walk up
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, there's Brittany. She's solo. And she's like,
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: I'm here to work on myself. And her talking head
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: Brittany says, Marcelino and I have been in a relationship
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: for 10 years. We've been separated for three years. And
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: the talking head, Kimberly, says, Brittany really inspired me. And
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: one of the reasons I thought Joey could make it
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: coming from prison was watching Brittany on the show. Like,
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: it's possible. If Brittany can do it, so can he.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because boy, did she have a hell of a backstory.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, she's got no family support, nothing, you know.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: So Marcelino comes out. He's got a brand new hummingbird
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: tattoo on his neck.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Which is a choice. Marcelino still looks really good.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: He does. And he's almost 50. He's like 47, I think.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's not a wrinkle, a line or anything
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: on that face, nor that head. I mean, he looks good.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: So in the talking head, he says, walking out alone
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: is what I requested. Now here we go.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: Until he opens his mouth.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, until he opens his mouth.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Yep. Now you look like an egg.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: He says, I have... I have a hard time being
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: around Brittany. We live separately. I do not feel comfortable
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: being around her because of the walls we have built
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: up around each other.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: Walls.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: But I'm here to rehabilitate my relationship. Well, that's never
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: going to happen.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: And we also know that Brittany can be violent. I mean,
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: we watch her beat her friends, kick her friends' ass
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: up and down a parking lot in front of the
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: woman's job. She kicked her ass so bad that none
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: of her like coworkers.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: Came out to help her.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: That is how much she was kicking her ass.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: He gets in. It's dead quiet. Like everybody was talking
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: and now it's dead quiet. Yeah. So she leans up
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: and touches his shoulder like nicely. I thought and goes, Hey,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: can I get a good morning? Fuck you. Something, anything.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: And he's like, he just looks at her. She goes,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: good morning. Fuck you. Anything. And he goes, good morning.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Your nails look nice. And she's like, okay, thank you.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: So the talking heads together, he says, I want to
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: be here because I don't want my children growing up
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: in a broken home. And if there's any inkling that
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: we could repair the marriage or hear each other, like
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: we need to, it's worth going to the moon and back.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: And y'all ain't gone. Y'all may need to go a
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: little bit further than the.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Moon because Mars is not going to work.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is bad.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: So she goes, we're just not in a good space
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: right now. Can we be done? And they get up
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: and walk away from the talking head. So they've headed
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: out to some sort of mountain cabin retreat outside of
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Los Angeles. Now, normally, they will give us the name
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: of the place and all that because they want to
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: get the free hour. They don't ever tell us because
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: you don't like to look this shit up, but they
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: don't tell us.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: I don't like how they always have to go to
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: some wilderness. That makes me feel uncomfortable. Every place they go,
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: it looks like a place where white men take their wives.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: To kill them. It just gives that vibe. I don't
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: like it.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: I'm like, we could have done this anywhere except for
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: right here. Does the wilderness bring out goodnesses?
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: People?
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Is it therapeutic?
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Well, they should have told the women to wear better shoes,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Because they were all over the place with shoes.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Because I was like, you're just standing in grass. You're
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: standing in dirt. Like, what are we doing? Yeah, yeah.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: So....
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: M and J. Michael and Justine. Okay. Michael and Justine.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: He's like, I know Dr. Ish. My wife and my
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: daughter love Dr.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: Ish.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: But he's got some blank with him. I didn't understand.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: He's got some shit with him. He's got some something.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: I don't think he likes a therapist.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah. But I didn't know what this word was.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: He goes, he's got something with him. So I immediately
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: go into defense mode immediately. And I feel overwhelmed and confused.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: And Justine says, I felt it would be a problem
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: with Michael because we're doing a van ride and getting
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: out to authority. So it's so familiar. So he's in
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: defense mode right away, which, of course, I really didn't
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: think about the van ride and stuff. But yeah, get it.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: But he's also had a lot of time to prepare
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: for it.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Is this a dog behind you?
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: It's a dog behind me. And I tell you what,
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: I did an interview with my spiritual advisor last week
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: and Saki just popped up like he did. And Joe
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: was like, oh my God, I thought it was a
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: spirit behind you. So Saki, get nice and comfortable.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: So Dr. Ish says, before we begin, I want to
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: be clear. This is not a vacation. I have created
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: a program built around your specific circumstances. It's custom made.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: These are unique relationships that require unique solutions. This process
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: was not created to comfort you. It's created to challenge you.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: What you're not changing, you're choosing. Now that stuck with me.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: What you're not changing, you're choosing.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you, by the time we're done, you're going
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: to want.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: To interview Dr.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Ish. Okay.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: So by the time you leave, I'm going to challenge
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: each and every one of you to stand up for yourself.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: It's not for me. It's not for your partner. It's
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: for you. Does anybody have any questions?
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Why are we wearing these shoes? We didn't know we
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: were going to be outdoors. We would have been in sneakers.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: So then we hear Brittany's voice on a loudspeaker calling
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Marcelina a fucking liar, saying she hates him. And then
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: we hear these terrible clips of everybody like screaming at
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: their partners from the show. And they're all like, what?
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: So they all go into this tent and they make
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: him sit on these very hard benches and all the
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: women are holding their purses.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: I did not get the purse thing. I'm like, was
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: there no, was there not like an extra bench for
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: them to go put their purses? Like who's going to
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: steal your purse?
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Why didn't they, why didn't they say leave your purse
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: with your luggage and we're going to put it all
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: in your room? Yeah.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: It was weird.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: I was like, can they let them drop their stuff
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: off first? Damn. So he says, before you got here,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: we all sat down one-on-one to have conversations and private
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: interviews with no partner present. Now, I thought that meant
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: they were private conversations and he's going to say, well,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: what I learned from talking to you is this. But no,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: they have them on screen. I was like, no. So
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: first up, Justine and Michael. We see their clips of
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: talking and whatever. And she says he may be physically
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: out of prison, but mentally he's not. Because in prison,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: you have to be so strong and you just become
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: numb to the outside world.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: The most common thing they fight about is the parenting.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: He's militant. She's lenient. And he says, he says, I'm militant.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: She's lenient. That's how it is when you have a
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: man around. I do the yelling. She does the hugging,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: but they don't do it again.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Well, I feel like when you have that many kids,
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: someone has to be militant. I mean, just because they'll
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: just be running amok. You know what I mean? So
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: But they don't have all nine at once. I mean,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: Well, we got the two that live with their moms. Yeah.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Little Nova and Mason.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Nova and Mason are the two little ones.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: That are the same age.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Michael Jr., Melody, Nova, and Mason. Because Nova's mom is different.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: And Nova's mom was like, I'm not doing an M name.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Fuck y'all.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like them at all.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: So.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: She says, we do not have infidelity issues. I trust him.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: But I don't know if I trust him with my heart.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: So Michael is doing what I call the shepherds, just
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: bouncing his legs. And Dr. Ish goes, you seem to
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: be bouncing. He goes, I do that. And Dr. Ish says, well,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: what do you think of all this? And he goes,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: I hear it every day. I don't know what else
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: I can do to change it. And Dr. Ish goes, okay,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: let's don't talk about the change yet. Let's talk about
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: how you feel right now.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: And he goes, I'm confused about everything. You know, I've
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: been this way my whole life, and I feel like
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: I'm being targeted, and I know I'm going to have
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: to dig deep, and I don't want to do that.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: And Justine says, if you take his criminal history into
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: consideration and what he went through, he's had to be
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: so tough. So he expects the rest of us to
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: be that tough.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: I mean... This he wasn't like a member of the
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: Mormon Tavern Choir. He was a drug dealer, like a
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: big time drug dealer and was part of the fentanyl
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: epidemic in America. OK, so he was tough before he
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: went into prison.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? We're not going to even
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: add in his upbringing, but just I mean, to be
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: a drug. What was he like right underneath the kingpin?
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was very high up.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So, yeah, he's got to be. I don't know
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: what she was expecting for him to be, like this
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: big soft teddy bear when he got out. No, I'm
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: sure he's still ducky and thinking people are after him.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, probably.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So, I think she likes the lifestyle, too.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: So, she talks to him and she says, I want
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: to feel comfortable coming to you because you know I
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: have nobody else. And so, I guess she and her
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: mom weren't getting along. And she says.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Her mom's got her own. She's trying to stay out
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: of jail herself.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: That's true. That's true.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: She says, you know, it's frustrating when you're only willing
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: to accept how you would handle a situation because I'm
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: not Michael. I just want to be being Justine to
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: be okay. And I want that to be safe.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: So I think they have, I don't know. I kind
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: of feel like they don't really have any problems either, but.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: I don't think they have any problems.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: The problem is they got nine goddamn kids to take
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: care of.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: That's why they're back on our television. And they keep
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: trying to be rappers.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they do continue to try to do a dual
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: rep career. So now Alexis and Julius. And she goes,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: our biggest disagreements are him engaging with people he should
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: not be. I just found out he was talking to
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: somebody and he says he never met her. It was
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: just on the phone.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: She goes, but that was a lie. He had met
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: her and he was cheating.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: Okay. He was cheating if they didn't meet. Right.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: They were still cheating.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: She goes, you know, I wonder if I should just
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: be single, but I don't want to take the easy
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: way out either. So we see him being asked, have
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: you cheated on her? And he goes, well, I mean,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: there have been times when I was chasing women. I mean,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: I think that's what he said. I think that's what
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: he said.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: Who?
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Of all?
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: All the times that they give us subtitles, why not
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: give them to us right now? We need them.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: And then on the screeners, there's no choice to choose subtitles.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: So I couldn't, that's where I was watching. I couldn't
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: even like choose it. Even like an AI, an AI,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: something would have been better.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: Understanding him like.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: So Dr. Ish says, how do you feel and what
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: jumps out? And she says, well, The cheating is a problem,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: but he did say it was a mistake. And he goes,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: I apologize. Don't act like I didn't apologize. And she goes,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: you did apologize, but you didn't show that you were sorry.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: That's all she wants. He could do whatever the fuck
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: he wants as long as he apologizes.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think she will never let him go. There's
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: a girl right now who said that she's pregnant by him.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: There's nothing.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: She will never let this man go ever, ever. She
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: just won't. Because I think her self-esteem is so low.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: She thinks he's the prize.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: She thinks this is as good as it's going to get. Girl,
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: there's plenty of light-skinned men with pretty eyes out there.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: You do not have to settle for this person who
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: looks like a fucking desk that a kid wrote all over. Like, stop.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: You can do better than that.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Because you know what?
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: When she acts like this, this makes me think, like,
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: if she came in and draw my blood, I'd be like,
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: is there anyone else? Because I just, I don't trust
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: her judgment at all.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. There's a baby. There's a baby. Okay. Joey and Kimberly.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: So we see his talk with Dr. Ish and he says,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: this relationship ain't doing nothing, making us both worse. And
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: I'm at a point where I don't do drugs anymore,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: but this is the, okay. But this is the worst
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: we ever been.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: The two of you, there is, No skin in this game.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: There are no children between you. Your children will be
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: way better off without this guy coming in and out
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: of your life on drugs, relapse, and going to prison.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Your children don't need to grow up. thinking this is normal.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: I doubt he has a job.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Get rid of this guy. There is not any reason
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: to keep this guy. She's the prize here. Yeah.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: And she's not looking at herself like she is.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: I don't get it. So she says, We had not
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: been intimate in five months, and we've only been married
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: for 18 months. And my mom was like, he's probably
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: been in prison half the time.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, it's kind of hard to have sex
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: when you're fucking laid out on a couch because you're
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: so goddamn high.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's another problem. Remember when they were together, she
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: was like, we're going to buy this property. We've got
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: this house with the pool. I was like, don't buy
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: a house with the pool. He's going to end up
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: at the bottom of the pool.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, then that'll be an episode of a date with Dateline.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah. So she says, I feel like I
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: have to beg him to love me. And that makes
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: me resent the shit out of him. And Dr. Ish goes,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: all right, well, five months without sex is a long time.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: So what's holding you back? And he says, Joey says,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: she got clinically pregnant. Does clinically pregnant mean they did IVF?
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: I seriously doubt.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: IUI?
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: Don't give it too much thought, Mary Payne.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: This is Joey talking.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: Because notice, no one questioned it. Everyone goes, this stupid
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: motherfucker right here.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Clinically pregnant.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: I don't know what that means.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Was it like an ectopic pregnancy? Like it wasn't a
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: viable pregnancy?
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: Maybe that's what it was. But she didn't even correct him.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: No. Anyway, he says she got clinically pregnant and lost
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: the baby. I'm sorry, you guys. Maybe we shouldn't laugh
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: at this. But it's laughing at him.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah. But every time you say it, it gets funny.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm good. I'm not going to say it again.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: So she lost the baby, and he didn't talk to
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: her about it, but it hurt. So she had some
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: sort of a baby loss, and he didn't talk to
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: her about it. And he says, but it hurt. And
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: this is the second baby I lost like that. Well,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: like what? Like what? We don't know.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: Anyway, no one's asking questions. Dr. Ish, can you, we
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: need a Dr. Ish is probably scratching his bald head
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: trying to figure it out too, because I.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Would say, I don't get it. Kimberly, how do you feel?
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: If you had pregnancy loss, um, well, are both.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: The, were both the pregnancy losses with her or did
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: he get someone else pregnant? Cause he said two.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: And they were in a clinic. It's just unclear. It's
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: just unclear.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: So, all right.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: So he, he says, I don't want to get her pregnant.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Because I don't think we'll make it.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: There's options to not get a person pregnant and still
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: have sex with them. Several. Well, this was what was
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: surprising to me. I thought that when they said they'd
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: gone five months without having sex, I thought she was
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: the one withholding sex. Because I wouldn't want to have
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: sex with a fucking zombie. I wouldn't. But it's him
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: with all this girl. If you don't give him the
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: boot right now, he's.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Too fucked up to have sex. He can't do it.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: He needs that dick pump. Like that gross meatball guy
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: from this is Polly had.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. I don't work. So Dr. Ish asked her,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: did you know that this was part of his hesitancy?
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: And she's like, no.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: Because he just made it up.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: He just made that up right then. He just made
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: that up. Yep.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: Clinically, he just made it up.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Clinically, he went to a clinic and made that up.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: So in talking to Eddie, he says, our relationship has
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: dwindled a lot. And we went through so long without
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: being intimate. Now it's like a brother-sister thing. And the
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: affection is not there, but I'd like to get it back.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: So the infection.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: The affection. But he could have said the infection.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: So Dr. Is says, Joey, what would happen if you
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: initiated sex? And he goes, we would have sex because
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: it'd be for her because all she wants to do
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: is have sex.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: This is so backwards.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: It's just weird.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: It's because he's on drugs and he doesn't care about sex.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: And Dr. Is says, but what do you get out
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: of it? And he goes, I think sex maybe is overrated.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Like every night, like that's overrated. And Dr. Is goes, okay,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: so what would a perfect number be? of times be
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: for you? And he goes, three, four times a week.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: That's a lot.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: That's, that's a lot of sex.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: I mean, for me, that's a lot.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: That's a lot. Yeah. And, and she goes, I mean,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: more than once every five months.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: I would need it. Yeah.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Most definitely. That's, that's a fucking problem. That's a roommate.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: And it's a roommate and it has everything to do
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: with this drug use, everything to do with this drug use.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: Okay. And I could guarantee you, Okay. So they're not
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: having sex, but they also are not having very stimulating
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: conversations either. No, just nothing there.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: No, she's trying to work and take care of two
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: little kids. You know, you know, they've got like soccer,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: this and karate, that and swim lessons. And, you know,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: so we're talking head. Um, Michael says for a man
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: to go that long, even men that are hurt, they'll
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: still have sex, but, uh, he has shut her out
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: with anything, but he is sure her shut her out completely. And, um,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Justine says, some men don't think sex is the end
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: all be all, Michael. He's like, what? Huh?
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: No, they do. They pretty much do.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: So Melissa and Louie, she says him being a mama's
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: boy is their number one problem. He's used to this
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: unconditional love, but a relationship is conditional love. She needs
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: to make, she needs him to make her feel like
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: she's respected in the relationship. And he says, I feel
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: like she's impatient. We fight over these tiny things. And
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: she goes, he can't even open the fridge and find
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: the hummus. And he says, she wants to fight. Now,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: there's several things going on here.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: She's wrong. Yes, when you're with a partner, it is
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: unconditional love. So that was wrong. She even says, she goes, wow,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: I sounded shitty there. You did. She's annoyed because he
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: wants her to be like his mom. Don't you think?
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: It's like, because my husband does this too. When we
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: call this, I'm taking on your emotional baggage or whatever
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: is the right word. I'm not using the, it'll come
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: to me by the end of this job. It's like
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: my husband. Okay. So in our house, this is a
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: great example. We have the Pura, P-U-R-A, the Pura diffusers.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: And you pop in the little volcano things in your
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: house smells like the anthropology store. So that's what I love.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: I have them everywhere. So Dave said last month, he goes,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: you know, those things in the basement, like I need
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: my smell good in the basement. And I go, okay,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: the little things are up here. So just whatever. And
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: then he never came to ask me where they were.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: And I passed by it a hundred times a day.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: And I didn't think about it because I'm never in
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: the basement. I don't care. And so yesterday he's in
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: the kitchen and I go, hey, those little Pura cartridges
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: are right there. If you want to grab them, you
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: can take them to the basement. He goes, oh, yeah.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: First of all, it takes him five solid minutes to
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: find where I'm pointing. Of course. And he goes, and
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: I go, I'm looking right at them. They're little white
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: boxes with blue writing. He's like, yep.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: So I have to get up from what I'm doing.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: I hand him the little boxes. I go take him
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: down there. He starts staring at the boxes. And I go,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: you know what? You're going to go downstairs and you're
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: going to use your context clues. And you're going to
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: figure out how to take it apart, take the old
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: ones out, and pop the new ones in. Because you're
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: going to be able to figure out that I took
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: this out, so the other one goes in just like it.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: You're going to be able to do that. And I
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: said it just like that, not nicely at all.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: It's part of marriage.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: And he looked at me like, wow. And Anna was
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: standing there, and Anna goes... Yeah, dummy, figure it the
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: fuck out.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I think you could talk to any
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: wife and we all have had to do something like
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: this because as smart as men could be, they could
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: be fucking dumb.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: They just want you to do it for them. Is
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: that what it is?
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: He wanted me to go, I'll just do it. I'll
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: just do it. So you don't have to do it.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: That's exact. It's called the emotional labor, I think is
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: what it's called. And it's sort of the same idea
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: of where did I put my shoes? How the fuck
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: would I know where you put your shoes? I'm not you.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: And I don't know when you came in. And it's like, hey,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: have you seen my keys? Why would I know where
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: your keys were?
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: So it's the same.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: It's universal. Like it just happens.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: So that's what she's mad about. That's what she's mad
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: about is that his mom, if he said, mom, where's
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: the hummus? And he's standing in front of the refrigerator.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: His mother would get up from what she's doing, come
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: into the other room, dig behind the pickles and find
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: him the hummus. Whereas she's like, move shit around and
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: find it.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: That's what she's mad about. That's what she's mad about.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: And I get it because he was so babied by
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: his mother. And even though he went to jail for
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: 10 years, his mom still thinks.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: In college before that.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah. His mom thinks he hung the moon, you know?
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Because it's our only child.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: So I get it. So I get it. She said
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: the thing about the hummus. I was like, okay, now
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I know what we're doing dealing with here that was
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: a complete sidebar so dr ish says to melissa who
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: told you you had to fight so hard to be
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: loved and she goes past relationships like i love my
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: daughter unconditionally so her daughter must be over 18 now
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: because we get to see her uh-huh um and her
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: daughter is so cute so cute And she says, but
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: in a relationship, I think he just expects everything because
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: we're engaged. And so he doesn't have to put any
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: effort into it. Okay.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: Okay. And I get that. But this is someone who's
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: never been out on their own, period.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, he went from high school to a little
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: bit of college. I mean, there's a lot of drug
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: shit going on straight to prison and came out and
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: went to you and Donna.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: And y'all have been fighting over.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: Child custody ever since then. So, I mean, there's a
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: lot of shit that he just doesn't know how to do.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: But one thing he does know how to do is
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: show off those damn dentures.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: Because he is going to show you those damn teeth.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: He's proud of those teeth.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: And he should be.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: He must have paid for them.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: So, the talking head together, he says, I've never been
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: in a mature relationship. I never grew up. I did
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: drugs and then I was in prison for 10 years.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: So this is all new to me and I'm trying
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: to learn.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's understandable.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: And he's such a nice guy too.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: Such a nice guy.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: So Dr. Is says, so how do you feel you
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: have to show up to the relationship in order for him? Okay.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: For him to continue loving you. And she says, I
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: think I need to be nicer.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: She, she's not nice. I mean, we've seen all the seasons.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: She's not the nicest. Yeah. She's very Jersey.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: She's very Jersey. Yes, she is.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: And she goes, I feel like we aren't on an
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: intimate level. So he snuggles up to her and puts
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: his arm around her and, and he goes, this is
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: not normal. Like I want, she's not a hold hands
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: in public kind of person. It's like an icky thing
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: for her. Mm-hmm. And she goes, I want to be
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: more affectionate, but it gives me anxiety. It makes me
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: feel claustrophobic. So that's, so that's another, some people just
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: aren't that way, but I don't know if she's that
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: way at home too, you know? But, or if she's
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: just like, I don't want to be a, you know,
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: a PDA person. Some people are like that.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: Which is so weird because we watched this girl in
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: a cheerleader uniform run up to this man and, Yeah.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: And jump on him when he got out of prison.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: And then we also saw her like break laws to
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: go to whatever that in between.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: His job.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: And I think she gave him a hand job.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: So when did all this happen? And then remember he
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: had to stay in for like six more months for her.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That was a hell of a hand job.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: I hope it was at least.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: In the talking head together, she goes, I don't really
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: know how to give and receive affection without being scared.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: It feels different and weird. And he goes, well, it's
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: supposed to feel good. And she goes, this is why
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: we're here. All right. Brittany and Marcelino. We see their interviews.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: And she says, Marcelino and I separated because of his infidelity.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: And he goes, she's got a laundry list of things
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: I've done. She could not control me in a manner
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: that would give into her needs, but my needs fulfilled
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: as well. And I expect a wife to listen and
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: obey the path that I'm trying to go down. Oh, not.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Obey.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: So I said, before we go further, I did not
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: realize maybe that he was like this, that he was like,
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: listen and obey and you're my wife and you should
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: do it. I don't know if... I mean, I could
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: see it because he's kind of got that Latino machismo
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: thing going on.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: So this was so weird because she always brings up
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: the infidelity and she was the one who opened Pandera's box.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: She's the one who said, let's have threesomes. Let's do this.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: Let's do that. I mean, whenever you do, and I'm
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: not saying that he's right, but whenever you do that,
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: there's always the risk of, That person and the third
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: person getting together, which is what happened with them. Yeah.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: I mean, he started having sex with her friend off
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: to the side. Yeah. Which is not an excuse to
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: be an asshole. All right.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: So she says, but when we separated, he also separated
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: from Giovanni, her little adorable son. And she goes, and
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: that was dad to Gio since he was two years old.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: That was surprising to hear that he did that because
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: they were pretty.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: He loved that little boy.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: And that little boy loves him. Yeah. And we see
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: him saying, men have to raise men. A woman can't
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: raise a man.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: And every single guy shook their head yes.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Justine was like, Mm-hmm.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: We have to do it all.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: Women do it all the fucking time.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Women do it all the time. And I don't know
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: what the fuck you're talking about.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: Right? Well, all the men agreed. They were all like, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: But I think Marcelino didn't have his dad in his life.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: He didn't.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: Okay. So it didn't turn out so great for him.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: Nope.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Okay. So Brittany says, I'm very triggered by this. She says,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: I feel like he plucked me from prison. So he
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: can mold me and control me. And since I didn't
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: do that, he lost interest in me. And he's like, no.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: And she goes, this is how I feel. And he says,
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: you could do whatever you want with whoever you want,
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: whenever you want. And she goes, that's what you say.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: That's what you say. And I've told him, maybe you
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: need a girl that'll just bow down and submit, but
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: it's not going to be me.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: Okay. I think he's right when he, she said he
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: wanted someone to mold.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: He seems like that type.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: We saw it right away when she came out and
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: he like took the plate of food away from her
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: and all this stuff. And, but then our journey was
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: that because he was so good with the kids and stuff.
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: We were like, we forgave every, we overlooked a lot.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: We did. We did.
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: Cause he was, so he was great with the kids.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: And he was pretty great with her and like her.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: It was very supportive.
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: Very supportive. So she says, um, And she says, and
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: besides all of that, my poor son, you withhold affection
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: from him. And Marcelina starts with, well, you've allowed him.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: And she goes, I've allowed him to be a kid
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: because you're too hard on him. And Dr. Ish goes, okay, Brittany,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: hold on here. Like, press pause. Like, let him talk.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: Let Marcelina talk. And Marcelina says, Gio... easily feels he
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: can tell me, I hate you. I wish you were dead.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: You're not my dad. Now, how am I supposed to
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: take that as the man who has been in his
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: life for the last eight years? And she goes, I'm sorry.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: And I do agree with you about that.
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: He shouldn't speak that way. And Marcelina goes, well, I
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: don't want to hear this shit. So Dr. Ish says,
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: but like, hold on, because she was actually trying to
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: agree with you and give you an apology. And he goes,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: she's got no apologies in her. And she goes, neither
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: do you. She says, you disowned him to hurt me.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: You're doing the same thing your dad and stepdad did
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: to you. You just abandoned him. And he goes, I'm
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: not trying to hear this shit. I'm not trying to
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: hear this shit. So she goes, I need a minute.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: She was trying to trigger him.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: I think she was kind of like shots fired whenever
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: she's because she didn't have to say that.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: Right then and there.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: Well, I think that. She's like, can't you see the pattern?
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: You know, your dad left you and then your stepdad
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: left you. Just like you're the stepdad leaving, you know.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: Gio. Okay. So she leaves and comes back and she says.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: She needed a cigarette. Yeah.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: She had to take a second.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: So she comes back and goes, okay, I want to
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: talk about Gio. So she goes, he's not lying. He's
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: not lying. When those two start going at it, it's
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: a 10 year old and a grown man. When those
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: two start going at it, I interfere immediately because I
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: won't allow him to do that to my son. And
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: he says, that's incorrect. And she says, as soon as
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: Rubble and Zoila, those are their two biological kids together.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: As soon as Rubble and Zoila came along, you pushed
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: him to the side and he feels it.
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: That sometimes does happen. Yeah. But this is a situation where,
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, Giovanni's dad is not in the picture.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: Because remember, he went off to prison.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: So it's not like he had this other person intervening
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: or anything like that. I mean, basically that you were
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: the dad.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: The dad, yeah. So the talking head, Marcelina, says, I
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: met Gio when he was three. And I've been with
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: him ever since until recently when Brittany asked me to
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: just bow out and leave him alone. But I think
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: if Brittany's like, If you're not going to be consistent
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: and you're just going to fight with him, then it's
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: better just to not be around, you know?
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: But then you have to say, you have to look
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: at it like, what if he were his biological dad?
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: Would she say the same thing? I think you would
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: try to make it work, figure it out. It's a
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: weird toss.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: Up with this.
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: So Dr.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: Is says, Marcelina, do you think this is fair to Gio?
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: And he goes, no, I want what is best for
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: the boy. I love him and I want to be
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: in his life. And she says, do you call him?
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: Do you check in with him? Do you pick him up?
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: Do you take him to do things? Do you have
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: alone time with him? You just come over and immediately like,
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: did he do this? Do you do his chores? You
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: just go after him. And he goes, it's called goddamn discipline.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: And I'm the man. And she says, you have no
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: emotion towards him. By being so overly stern and not
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: having balance, you're teaching them to be just as hard
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: as your heart is. So I think the point is
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: he just comes in because he's like weekend dad or whatever.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: And just immediately he's like, Looks like the trash needs
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: to be taken out. Do you not do that, Gio? Like,
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: he just immediately goes after him and doesn't, like, sit
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: down and be like, let's play Xbox or tell me
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: about school or, hey, let's go get some ice cream
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: or just something and have a conversation. He just immediately
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: comes in, probably because he only sees him, like, once
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: a week or something.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: And probably because he's picking up the other kids and
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: leaves Gio there. Not him.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: That's exactly what's happening.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: Horrible. So, they're talking it together, he says. I feel
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: like I try to discipline them. But then she comes
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: in and steps on my toes and overrules me and
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: undercuts me. And she says, you have withheld love and
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: affection for my son for so many years. So damn straight,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: I'm going to interfere every single time.
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: I mean, I can't fault her for that.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: And poor Chio, he's got to see it. No.
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: He's got to see.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: He comes in as an asshole to me. My mom
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: has to step in. It's horrible. Yep.
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: This is really, they need something other than, well, we
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: know he filed for divorce in July, so hopefully they're
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: not even together.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: I think that if he's going to continue to be
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: a father to Gia, the three of them have to
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: sit together with a family therapist, you know. So Dr.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: Ish says to everyone, the whole group, It's not a
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: shame and blame situation. Everybody's got stuff. Everybody's got pressure points.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: Everybody has those things that trigger you. We shut down,
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: we dismiss, or we explode. And I'm going to peel
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: back those layers. When you're feeling the most raw and
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: angry and want to call an Uber, I'm going to
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: ask you to push through. Let's go get some food.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: Let's hang out. Let's talk about what's next. So they're like,
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: thank God.
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: Can we put our purses down? Can we change shoes?
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: Nope.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: Take your purse with you. Okay.
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: Just make sure Alexis didn't have nothing to do with
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: the food. E. coli, salmonella, just all the things.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: If you guys don't know about Keisha, if you fuck
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: up some food on this show, she's going to remember
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: it for four years.
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: There's a such thing as fucking up, but this bitch
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: tried to kill them. Okay.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: That bacon was raw.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: But it was like burnt on the ends. Do you
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: know I do my bacon now in the oven? And
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: somebody told me to do that. I was like, that's stupid.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: It's not going to be crispy. But let me tell you,
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: it really works.
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: You do it on a piece of tinfoil on a
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: cookie sheet. Put it in the oven 400. Yeah.
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: It's so good. I love me some bacon. So much easier.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: Okay. So in the talking head, Kimberly says, I don't
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: have anybody to talk to at home. You know why?
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Because everybody thinks you're stupid and nobody wants to discuss
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: this with you.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: And your dad still thinks Joey stole.
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: His four-wheeler all those years ago.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: He was 16. She says, you know, I don't have anybody. Sorry,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: I'm yawning. Don't have anybody to talk to at home
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: about this. So now I feel good. I'm going to
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: have a group of women I can talk to and
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: I'm feeling kind of hopeful. At least she's like at
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: the very least I get some friends out of it
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: that can understand what I'm going through.
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: So they all sit down to eat, and Louie says,
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: I really want to thank everybody for being here. I
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: think it's going to be a long road. We've got
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: to make the best of it because, you know, he
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: is like a personal trainer, and he's trying to, like,
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: pump everybody up.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: He might as well have put on that cheerleader outfit
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: that Melissa has.
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: He is cheering everyone on right now.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: So they all chat and Melissa laughs and goes, God,
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: we were watching that video. And I was like, wow,
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: maybe it is me. And they're all kind of laughing.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: And the guys then talk about prison food and how
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: they would improvise and be creative. Like they have this
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: whole side conversation. The talking head Marcelino tells us, I
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: have a very hard time being around Brittany. I can't
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: respect someone who doesn't respect me. And I'm wondering what
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: I got myself into here. So she, so he's laying
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: on a bench outside and she goes outside and she goes, Hey,
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: are you okay? You know, she's, I feel like this
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: is the second time she's like, try to be nice
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: to him, you know?
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: But I think that shit can go left really quickly.
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: And I think that's what he's fearful of.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: But I think she's also fearful of it, but she's like, okay,
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: I'm going to like, try we're here, you know? So
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: he says, it's clear. We're not compatible. We're trying to
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: fit a square into a hole. It's not working. The
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: kids do not deserve this. And she goes, okay, I
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: agree with you. And she's like, we agree. This is
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: not going to work. We're going to get divorced, whatever.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: And she says, but I feel like I have unresolved
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: things and clearly you do as well. And he goes,
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: I can't even have a conversation with you about what
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: color the sky is without arguing. And she goes, but
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: you're the only person I argue with. And he goes, good.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: And then he gets up and walks off and she's like, okay, great.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: This is pretty, this is probably, Aside from Joey's obvious
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: drug issue, I think this is the worst couple right here.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: They need to be in therapy weekly to co-parent.
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yes.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: So I'm talking to have Louie and Melissa say, okay,
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: we're nervous. We're not looking forward to being thrown into
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: another exercise. So they're like, okay, outside. And they have
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: everybody stand on a line and the women are still
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: in the heels and have their purses. Like Alexis is
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: wearing a backpack.
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: Girl, your baby is not with you. Why do you
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: have a diaper bag attached to your back right now?
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: So he says, we're going to play a game to
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: see how well we know each other. So if your
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: answer is yes to my question, step over the line.
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: Who here has gone to jail? So every single person
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: steps over except Alexis.
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: And I believe it.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: And Kimberly's like, okay, what? I got arrested at 17.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: I was hanging around people doing stuff they shouldn't be doing.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: And I squealed on everybody and my dad picked me up.
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: And her dad probably still talks shit about you.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right.
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: Because we know he loves to hold on to something.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: Joey was probably one of them. Okay, next question. Does
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: anyone worry about stepping into old patterns? So Julia steps forward.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: And this is like the most we've ever heard him
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: say of anything that has any sense.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: He says, I do worry because taking the right path
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: is new to me. And a lot of my friends
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: are on the wrong path. And Marcelina goes, you have
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: to get rid of those people. You have to get
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: rid of them. You have to rely upon a support
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: system that will send you in a positive direction. Now,
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: we come from a show that I quickly saw as
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: a docuseries on how to combat recidivism. And he's right.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: He is right. And Dr. Ish says, yeah, okay, good. Okay, good.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: So let's talk. What's the rate of recidivism? Now, literally,
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: you know, Julius is like, what does that mean? Question.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: Spelling.
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: And Joey goes, and he says, what's the rate of recidivism?
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: It is 75% chance that you'll go back to prison
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: within three years of getting out. And Joey goes, for me,
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: it's three months.
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: That's not a badge of honor. This wasn't your flex moment.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, God. And he says, what's the one thing that
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: protects you? Do you know? Does anybody know? Being in
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: love with your partner. Having a good partner and a
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: successful relationship. It doesn't have to be perfect, but having
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: someone there that you're accountable to. And if you don't
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: have that, that number goes up to 85%. So this
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: is why this part matters. Mm-hmm. So we're talking ahead.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: Joey goes, I've always been involved in drugs. Really? We're stunned.
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: Newsflash.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: There's not what one person never stopped me from doing drugs,
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: and that's Kimberly. And without her, I'd be dead or
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: in jail. I think it's probably still going to go
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: that way, but you're just stretching it out. I'm going
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: to be honest. I mean. Because you look half dead already.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: This is not a person who's really trying to work
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: a program.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: No.
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: No.
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: Not at all. Listen, addiction is addiction. It's hard. It's
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: a different journey for everybody. But he's not changing. He's choosing,
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: in the words of Dr.
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: Ish.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: Okay? It's my new phrase. I'm going to go downstairs
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: right now to Anna and be like, you're not changing.
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: You're choosing. Get off the couch.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: Oh, you're going to get cussed out.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: You know, that's true. So next question. Step across the
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: line if you're actually ready to start a new journey
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: of healing. A Hill and Journey, if you're Whitney from
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: Salt Lake City.
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: Michael does not step across. Let's clear the air. Clear
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: the air. Whitney Rose. Whitney Rose. Michael does not step across.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: And talking to him, he goes, I do not want
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: to be here. I don't want no doctor trying to
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: dig into my past and my wife looking at me
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: like I'm weak. I just want to go somewhere where
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: I can be myself. And that's it. Fuck all this shit.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: Let's go.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: They go to prison.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: Okay. And Michael, I mean, I mean, all right, this
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: season on. So these are the quick clips that we get.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: Normally I don't write this down, but it was too
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: good not to write down.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: It looks real good.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: We see him having a pool party. Hilarious. We see
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: them doing like a painting thing where they paint each other.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: They go to some sort of dance, like a prom
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: or something. It's probably like a lot of you didn't
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: get to go to your high school prom. So we're
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: going to do one. The girls swing on the pole
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: in Justine's room. And then Alexis says, that's why I
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: got the nine G's. Does she get $ 9, 000 for swinging
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: on a pole? I didn't get that because again, no subtitles.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: Joey tells Kimberly, one thing I love about you is
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: how you always put yourself last. And she goes, you
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: shouldn't love that.
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: No idiot. I mean, you can think that, but you
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: don't actually say those words to your wife.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: That was bad. That was a, he sees so stupid. And, um,
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: Michael says, don't make it seem like I came home
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: and I was a monster. Um, Brittany cries and says
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: to Marcelina, I don't want you to ruin my son.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: Alexis says to Julius, do you love me? Am I enough?
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: No. No and no.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: No and no.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: Never.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: Never from the start.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: Louis says to Melissa, why are you trying to rush
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: someone who's not ready to get married? Justine says to Michael,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: you come at me like an inmate. Joey says to Kimberly, hey,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm fixing to do? I'm fixing to
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: go get high. Great.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: At least we got some honesty going on.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: Announce it to the cameras. Yeah. Marcelino says to Brittany,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: do you want to go through the divorce? Obviously. Joey
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: then tells production, take my mic off.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: I'm going home.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: And Louie says- Uber. This is how you call Uber.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: Uber.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: Does it show up when you just yell it into
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: the air?
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: Uber. He has no fucking money to pay the Uber driver.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: He knows how to do nothing.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: They don't give him a phone. Then we see Louie going, well,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: we started off with five couples. Now we're down to four.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: Who's going to leave? We see Marcelino say he's out.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: We see Kimberly say she's out. We see Michael say
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: he's out. We see everybody at some point says they're out.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: If I had to guess... joey gets kicked out for
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: doing drugs because we did see in a preview that
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: dr ish is drug testing joey.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: That that was a waste of a drug kid why
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: do you like it's obvious like to even to us.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: We knew the answer we knew the answer oh god
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: bless um listen again you guys addiction is It's scary
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: and it's sad and it's in my life. It's in
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: your life. We all know somebody personally or not. So
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: the addiction part of it is really sad. But then
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: you look at somebody like Michael, who is repenting for
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: his sins of getting people addicted to drugs. You've got Louie,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: who has literally worked every single step of the program.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: You look at somebody like Brittany, who got herself clean
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: and sober in prison for her children. You know, it
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: can be done. Yeah.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: And then there's Joey.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: And then there's Joey. And I don't know what kind of,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: he doesn't.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: He's putting forth no effort.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: He's putting forth no effort. And he also has somebody
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: there that's constantly bailing him out.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: His mother, his wife.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: You know, remember his mother was just so, oh God.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: And she was so sweet to those kids. Oh God.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: Anyway, guys.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: She just didn't want Joey to live with her. She
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: was adamant. He is not coming to live with me.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: No way, no how. I don't blame her.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: Well, I am very excited about this show. I do
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: feel like we're finally getting a real therapist on our television.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: And I'm not going to watch Mama June to see Dr.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: Ish do something else. But I'm thrilled about this. And
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: I hope that they keep this going. And I hope
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: we get more Dr. Ish on our TV for other shows.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: They need to take Dr. Ish to the last resort castle.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: They could really help those people.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, some of those people are. I don't know.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: I've seen him wear some miracles.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: Maybe he can help Darcy and Stacy with their love life.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: He'd be like, first of all, what's happening here? What's
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: going on with your look?
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: I think he's like, let's start with like loving ourselves
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: a little bit.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: Let's start with our body image. Let's start with our
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: body image.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: Let's work on ourselves as individuals. Oh, Lord. You and
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: I could be therapists. Not like Dr. Ish, though.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: But we could have our own show.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: You need to start.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: You know more people than I do. I need you
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: to start pitching it. All right.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: Damn, Mary Payne.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be on TV.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: Just add that one more thing to the list. I know.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be on TV.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: Well, oh, well, are you another beach house?
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: You can have five beach houses. Okay.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, you're so terrible. Okay. You guys, thanks very much.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: And I want to remind all of you, if you're
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: new here, we, um, we do mugshot Mondays on Mondays.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: We've been doing it for years. We have had, uh,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: we TV has popped in these other shows and we're
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: still covering that. We're not happy about it. Uh, we
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: are here in our happy place with love after lockdown.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: And if you're not familiar, uh, Cover TLC on Tuesdays,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: Bravo on Thursdays, the secondary TLC 90-day show on Fridays.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: And Keisha and I have been doing a Welcome to
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: Plathville rewatch. We're in season five now.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: And some of them need to be.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: In jail. Some of them really need Dr.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: Ish. They need Dr.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: Ish.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: Now, it's going to take them five sessions to get
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: over the fact that.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: A black person is talking to them.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: But....
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: But so we're doing that on Wednesdays. And I want
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: to remind you guys, Keisha has a great podcast called
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: The Libra Lounge with Keisha. This week, she's got a
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: plastic surgeon on.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: And you said something else you had on this week
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: that I was interested in. What was it?
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: Last week, we had my spiritual advisor. He comes on
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: once a month and he does like the monthly Zodiac readings.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: And he is like the best person you will ever
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: meet in your life.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: Okay. Well, I need to go listen to that because
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: another fun fact, Keisha and I have the same birthday.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: So if it applies to you, technically, shouldn't it apply
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: to me? Different ears.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: You're different, though. You're different.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: Wow. Whoa, that did not sound like a compliment.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: No, you can say that exactly the same way to me,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: but like, bitch, you're different. But when we're alike, we are.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: We're alike. Yeah.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: We share our brain quite a lot. Oh, God. And
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: we get to see each other this week. No.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: You guys, Libra Fest is this weekend. It's New York City.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: It is Saturday night at Hard Rock Cafe in Times Square. Now,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: there are tickets available. So if you're in New York
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: or you're going to New York, it did sell out.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: But if you go to the Pink Shade Facebook group,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: the group, not like the official page, the group, or
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: Amy Archer has, little misrecap, she has an official group
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: for her Backdoor Friends group. It is pinned at the top,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: the Libra Fest ticket exchange. Several people have DM'd me
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: to say that at the last minute they can't come
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: and they have tickets, but they're not on Facebook. And
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: I've got their information. So if you want a ticket,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: DM me on Instagram. I'll put you in touch with
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: the people that I know that have tickets because we
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: want every single ticket to be used. We don't want
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: any to go to waste. And we have like fun
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: little giveaways that I'm working on. I'm so excited. So excited.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, I can't think of anything better than coming
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: to see us.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: I know. We're just going to mix and mingle. It's
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: just going to be like a fun cocktail party, specialty drinks,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: specialty little giveaways. It's going to be super fun, guys.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: So if you're in New York and you don't have
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: a ticket, DM me and I'll see if I can
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: hook you up with somebody who's got a ticket for you.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: Because you can't just show up. Because Producer James is
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: going to be there checking people in.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: Oh, I hope he has to chase someone down. That
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: will be hilarious for me, if only just for me.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: Here he goes. He's on the loose.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: We're going to have so much fun, guys. So, again,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: follow us on social media. The Libra Lounge with Keisha,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: Pink Shade Pod. We'll be also reporting all weekend from there.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: But we'll see you on Wednesday to talk about Plathville
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: over on Pink Shade Prime. Okay, bye.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: Bye.