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- 0:00Speaker 1: An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child
- 0:03Speaker 1: in Massachusetts. An MS thirteen gang member from Al Salvador
- 0:07Speaker 1: accused of murdering a Texas man of Venezuelan charged with
- 0:11Speaker 1: filming and selling child pornography in Michigan. These are just
- 0:15Speaker 1: some of the heinous migrant criminals caught because of President
- 0:19Speaker 1: Donald J. Trump's leadership. I'm Christy nom the United States
- 0:23Speaker 1: Secretary of Homeland Security. Under President Trump, attempted illegal border
- 0:28Speaker 1: crossings are at the lowest levels ever recorded, and over
- 0:31Speaker 1: one hundred thousand illegal aliens have been arrested. If you
- 0:35Speaker 1: are here illegally, your next you will be fined nearly
- 0:39Speaker 1: one thousand dollars a day, imprisoned, and deported. You will
- 0:43Speaker 1: never return. But if you register using our CBP home
- 0:46Speaker 1: app and leave now, you could be allowed to return legally.
- 0:50Speaker 1: Do what's right. Leave now. Under President Trump, America's laws,
- 0:55Speaker 1: border and families will be protected.
- 0:57Speaker 2: Sponsored by the United States Department of Homeland Security Bill Ackman.
- 1:02Speaker 2: We posted this on Instagram, and this is relicous because
- 1:05Speaker 2: this is a financial This is a financial conversation. So
- 1:09Speaker 2: Harvard Harvard, there's thirty Harvard student groups that signed an
- 1:14Speaker 2: open letter. I'll read some of the open letters. So
- 1:18Speaker 2: this is the open letter that Harvard students, some of
- 1:21Speaker 2: the Harvard students put together and some of the hardest
- 1:23Speaker 2: Harvard students group signed. Today's events. This is when it
- 1:27Speaker 2: first happened, when the attack on Israel first happened, right
- 1:31Speaker 2: on the from the Hamas on Hamas offensive. Today's events
- 1:36Speaker 2: did not occur in a vacuum. For the last two decades,
- 1:39Speaker 2: millions of Palestinians in Gaza have been forced to live
- 1:43Speaker 2: in an open air prison. Is really officials promise to
- 1:48Speaker 2: open the floodgates of Hell, and the massacre in Gaza
- 1:52Speaker 2: has already already convinced Palestinians and guys that have no
- 1:58Speaker 2: shelter for refuge and nowhere to escape. In the coming days,
- 2:04Speaker 2: Palestinians will be forced to bear the full blunt of
- 2:08Speaker 2: Israel's violence. The apartheid regime only is the only one
- 2:13Speaker 2: to blame. Israeli violence has structured every aspect of Palestinian's
- 2:19Speaker 2: existence for seventy five years, from systemizing systematically land seizures
- 2:26Speaker 2: to routine airstrikes, arbitrary detensions to military checkpoints and enforcing
- 2:32Speaker 2: family separations and targeting killings. Palestinians have been forced to
- 2:37Speaker 2: live in a state of death, both slow and sudden.
- 2:43Speaker 2: This is what some Harvard they put that out right.
- 2:45Speaker 2: Bill Ackman, who is a billionaire and one of the
- 2:49Speaker 2: most powerful people on Wall Street, he responded on Twitter
- 2:55Speaker 2: very upset about the I don't know if he went
- 2:57Speaker 2: to Harvard or not, but he was very upset about
- 3:00Speaker 2: what the Harvard, what those Harvard students had to say,
- 3:03Speaker 2: and he in response said that he wanted to get
- 3:07Speaker 2: the names. He pushed Harvard to release the names of
- 3:11Speaker 2: the students that were responsible for those words quote none
- 3:17Speaker 2: of us inadvertently hire any of their members. So he
- 3:23Speaker 2: said that he wanted to make sure that no Wall
- 3:26Speaker 2: Street firms and indvertently hired any of the students, essentially
- 3:30Speaker 2: saying that he wanted the names of Harvard students so
- 3:33Speaker 2: he can make sure that they would never get.
- 3:37Speaker 3: Hired on Wall Street.
- 3:38Speaker 2: Now, this is extremely controversial because obviously it walks on
- 3:47Speaker 2: freedom of speech, right with what this country has founded on,
- 3:51Speaker 2: and even the ex Harvard president was concerned about this
- 3:58Speaker 2: and said it seems like McCarthyism. This was when everybody
- 4:03Speaker 2: was scared to be called the communists, right, and if
- 4:07Speaker 2: you if you were labeled a communist, then your whole
- 4:09Speaker 2: career would just be black ball. So this is extremely
- 4:15Speaker 2: relevant because this show is called Market Mondays and we
- 4:19Speaker 2: talk about the stock market, and Bill Ackman is one
- 4:22Speaker 2: of the most powerful.
- 4:23Speaker 3: People on Wall Street, hedge fund, stock market.
- 4:27Speaker 2: So I think it's interesting because he didn't say that
- 4:30Speaker 2: he was going to just make sure that they never
- 4:33Speaker 2: worked for his company. He said that he was going
- 4:35Speaker 2: to make sure that none of us us. He worried
- 4:38Speaker 2: us inadvertently. Its meaning that they're already not going to
- 4:41Speaker 2: get hired if they know for sure, but they just
- 4:44Speaker 2: want to make sure that they're not making you know,
- 4:45Speaker 2: they they want to He wants to make sure that
- 4:47Speaker 2: none of us.
- 4:48Speaker 3: So what this is saying is that.
- 4:50Speaker 2: He he's speaking by us, you means any Wall Street firm, Goldman, Sachs,
- 4:55Speaker 2: you name it.
- 4:59Speaker 3: Okay.
- 5:00Speaker 2: So interesting that he would say this publicly, and this
- 5:07Speaker 2: has caused a lot of controversy in the news. So
- 5:12Speaker 2: I think that this is important on a few different
- 5:14Speaker 2: aspects of it. A from the media standpoint, because if
- 5:17Speaker 2: you read, if you heard what I just said, those
- 5:20Speaker 2: are just the words. I think it's important for media
- 5:23Speaker 2: to be non biased, and we live in a day
- 5:25Speaker 2: and age where there is really no media that is
- 5:28Speaker 2: non biased or religi is non biased. But for the
- 5:30Speaker 2: most part, none of these major media corporations are biased,
- 5:34Speaker 2: are non biased. And even how they framed the letter
- 5:38Speaker 2: from the Harvard students, a lot of media publications deemed
- 5:42Speaker 2: it as pro Hamas. They never even mentioned Hamas at all,
- 5:46Speaker 2: And like I said, this isn't I'm not even taking
- 5:48Speaker 2: a side of the Harvard students, but I'm just we
- 5:50Speaker 2: just have to be factual, right, They never they never
- 5:52Speaker 2: said that they were pro Hamas. They were obviously anti Israel.
- 5:56Speaker 2: That's a fair statement to say, but even the word
- 6:00Speaker 2: the way that it has been framed is not actually
- 6:02Speaker 2: factually true. The problem with the media is that nobody
- 6:05Speaker 2: really ever checks the media. So if you just say, okay,
- 6:09Speaker 2: thirty Harvard students put out a pro Hamas, pro terrorist letter,
- 6:14Speaker 2: well you're playing, you're playing with semantics and you're playing
- 6:17Speaker 2: with words. And now before because hardly anybody, I'm sure
- 6:20Speaker 2: he hasn't even read the letter. So before you even
- 6:23Speaker 2: read the letter, you're already going into it with a
- 6:26Speaker 2: tainted view. I'm assuming Bill Akiman read it because he's
- 6:30Speaker 2: an intelligent person, is very rich, so I'm assuming that
- 6:33Speaker 2: he read it. But maybe he didn't read it. Maybe
- 6:34Speaker 2: he just sort of had a lone. Who knows, But
- 6:37Speaker 2: I think that it brings out a very dangerous point
- 6:42Speaker 2: in this country when somebody can openly vow to block
- 6:48Speaker 2: the careers of somebody because they have an opinion. They
- 6:52Speaker 2: didn't fund money to this, They didn't say, like, you know,
- 6:56Speaker 2: we're going on the front lines to fight ourselves. They
- 6:58Speaker 2: they openly wrote a opinion in a peaceful manner, right,
- 7:03Speaker 2: and you could disagree with their opinion that that's something
- 7:05Speaker 2: that you have a right to as an American, and
- 7:08Speaker 2: you can choose not to hire them in your company
- 7:11Speaker 2: if you want to. But to openly try to collude,
- 7:14Speaker 2: collude with all every single Wall Street firm to stop
- 7:18Speaker 2: their hiring because they don't agree with you, well, it's
- 7:20Speaker 2: such a dangerous precedent and it would never happen if
- 7:26Speaker 2: it was for another disadvantaged group, if anybody said anything
- 7:30Speaker 2: disrespectful about black people, I've never seen this level of
- 7:35Speaker 2: black ball happen. In fact, you could even become president
- 7:39Speaker 2: because when Donald Trump called the Central Park five rapists
- 7:44Speaker 2: and they should be he said, he actually said that
- 7:47Speaker 2: they should have the death penalty. And they were sixteen
- 7:49Speaker 2: and seventeen years old. They weren't they weren't even adults.
- 7:52Speaker 2: And then it comes out that they were exonerated and
- 7:54Speaker 2: that they were actually completely mischowsed by the justice system,
- 7:58Speaker 2: that they never committed the crime at all. They actually
- 8:00Speaker 2: got like sixty million dollars from New York City, and
- 8:02Speaker 2: he said that was a waste of tax pay his money.
- 8:04Speaker 2: He doubled down on the statement, and he become president.
- 8:07Speaker 2: So we're living in very interesting times. And I think
- 8:12Speaker 2: that that the media is at a very important part
- 8:16Speaker 2: of society and we must have free we must have
- 8:19Speaker 2: free press. We can never be bullied. The press can
- 8:22Speaker 2: never be bullied. And people's opinions have to be respected
- 8:26Speaker 2: across all across all aisles, because once we start to
- 8:32Speaker 2: walk on people's opinion, then we we we really compromise
- 8:39Speaker 2: the integrity of any level of democracy that we think
- 8:41Speaker 2: we have.
- 8:42Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's interesting.
- 8:44Speaker 4: Everything you said is one hundred percent in the green swims,
- 8:46Speaker 4: But it's interesting when you think about the statement being
- 8:49Speaker 4: made public, imagine the conversations that are being had in private,
- 8:54Speaker 4: private like it makes you think about that part. But
- 8:57Speaker 4: the other thing that's also interested in that I think
- 9:00Speaker 4: overlooked is that rather than talking to the school, he's
- 9:05Speaker 4: attacking the students.
- 9:06Speaker 5: Right.
- 9:06Speaker 4: He could have just said that, hey, if we support
- 9:08Speaker 4: Harvard then and this is my alma mater, we're not
- 9:11Speaker 4: going to be a booster for Harvard anymore. He specifically
- 9:14Speaker 4: is going after students, which is interesting, right, these are
- 9:17Speaker 4: the future of our society. This could have been a
- 9:20Speaker 4: learning moment. Even if he thought that he disagreed with them,
- 9:22Speaker 4: This could have been a moment for him to engage
- 9:25Speaker 4: with them and have conversation, right, because ultimately there could
- 9:27Speaker 4: be an understanding that comes from that conversation. But to
- 9:30Speaker 4: put us right to speak about an entire industry, right,
- 9:34Speaker 4: when we spoke to Van Jones and we talked about finance,
- 9:37Speaker 4: we talked about the financial structure of America.
- 9:40Speaker 3: The heart of it is Wall Street.
- 9:43Speaker 4: So what you're doing is derailing and putting up a
- 9:47Speaker 4: roadblock for any financial progress.
- 9:50Speaker 3: That's just from a standpoint.
- 9:51Speaker 4: Even if they wanted to be in the world of finance,
- 9:53Speaker 4: maybe they didn't, But to have their names released that
- 9:56Speaker 4: could affect them in any other career field, right, just
- 9:59Speaker 4: because they they had an opinion or they exercised their
- 10:02Speaker 4: freedom of speech, which is interesting, But these are the
- 10:06Speaker 4: things that are happening, right, So like we always try
- 10:08Speaker 4: to go over there, always have our mindset and the
- 10:12Speaker 4: conversations that we have, and these things are happening in public,
- 10:15Speaker 4: But so many more conversations that happen in private that
- 10:18Speaker 4: are probably similar to this, that are never going to
- 10:20Speaker 4: be released, which is important. That puts us in a
- 10:23Speaker 4: position to say, you know what, what're part of media.
- 10:26Speaker 3: We see how this is going. We're going to say
- 10:27Speaker 3: something because we have the right to. You have to.
- 10:32Speaker 5: I don't want to take the other side of it,
- 10:33Speaker 5: but I do want to a couple of things. Number One,
- 10:35Speaker 5: you have to be very careful of what you say.
- 10:39Speaker 5: Number Two, there's a reason why people have always told
- 10:41Speaker 5: people to stay away from religion and or politics, because
- 10:45Speaker 5: you are once you take a side, you then are
- 10:48Speaker 5: going to upset potential enemies that maybe on the other
- 10:51Speaker 5: side of that conflict or advice that you're giving. I
- 10:57Speaker 5: do think it's unfair for him to call them out.
- 11:00Speaker 5: But the other part of it is if he went
- 11:02Speaker 5: to Harvard I think you graduated IDY eight then went
- 11:05Speaker 5: to Columbia as a donor. There isn't the purpose of
- 11:10Speaker 5: power to be able to do what you want to
- 11:11Speaker 5: do with it. I actually all the time, what's the
- 11:14Speaker 5: purpose of having few money if at some point you
- 11:16Speaker 5: can't say you I think if someone agrees with what
- 11:20Speaker 5: the student said, they should hire them at their firm.
- 11:25Speaker 5: The way the data is acute, though not many will
- 11:28Speaker 5: I think it's unfortunate even here. It was one episode
- 11:31Speaker 5: I won't say with guests, but some of the audience
- 11:34Speaker 5: members want unfavorable to the guests and has some comments
- 11:38Speaker 5: on YouTube and they ended up on the blacklist.
- 11:42Speaker 3: You gotta be careful what you say to people.
- 11:44Speaker 5: People aren't always going to tell you and publicly, hey,
- 11:47Speaker 5: I'm going to get my look back, But on the
- 11:49Speaker 5: back you have to be very And we've had these
- 11:51Speaker 5: conversations privately about diplomacy, when to attack, when to retreat,
- 11:58Speaker 5: when to not give certain things energy. It's unfortunate, but
- 12:02Speaker 5: in the time we're in, if you're going to take
- 12:04Speaker 5: a stance and you're not willing to back that stands
- 12:08Speaker 5: with your own capital, you could be in trouble.
- 12:10Speaker 3: You really could be.
- 12:11Speaker 5: Also we talked about it before freedom and speech was
- 12:18Speaker 5: really made for in your house and in small private gatherings.
- 12:21Speaker 3: You can't say whatever you want to in public and online.
- 12:25Speaker 3: It's no different.
- 12:26Speaker 5: And I'll say this for those of you who work
- 12:27Speaker 5: in corporate I had a stock club Costs Saturday. I
- 12:30Speaker 5: four times in a row begged everybody in Red Panda
- 12:33Speaker 5: stay away from this topic, your thoughts, political disposition, because
- 12:38Speaker 5: the same thing is going to happen to you if
- 12:41Speaker 5: you so choose to take a side and you're wrong
- 12:44Speaker 5: or you get attacked.
- 12:45Speaker 3: That is the price of speaking.
- 12:47Speaker 5: I know we have the solution of democracy really republican
- 12:50Speaker 5: in the United States of America, but this has been
- 12:52Speaker 5: an expect like the thing that I saw from.
- 12:56Speaker 3: Most of us that are black. It's like this has.
- 12:58Speaker 5: Been happening to us in every industy. It's unfortunate that
- 13:02Speaker 5: it happened to them, yes, but this, this kind of
- 13:05Speaker 5: treatment has been happening to us forever.
- 13:07Speaker 2: I do think people, I think it highlights I think
- 13:11Speaker 2: it highlights a few things. So you're right, you have
- 13:13Speaker 2: to if you're if you're willing to speak on something,
- 13:15Speaker 2: you have to be able to deal with the consequences.
- 13:17Speaker 3: Of that, yea, And there's always consequences for everything.
- 13:21Speaker 2: But I this is why I think that it's dangerous
- 13:23Speaker 2: because when I think of Harvard, I'm looking at student
- 13:30Speaker 2: organization putting out a letter that's almost similar to like
- 13:34Speaker 2: a press.
- 13:35Speaker 3: That's that's like press. Right, So when it's just.
- 13:38Speaker 2: A random person on Twitter saying something, and now you
- 13:40Speaker 2: got to you know, if you say something, but when,
- 13:44Speaker 2: because at what point does it stop?
- 13:46Speaker 3: Right?
- 13:46Speaker 2: At what point does somebody's personal views, opinions or stating
- 13:50Speaker 2: the facts? You start to walk with their line? This
- 13:53Speaker 2: country was built on freedom, Ernest.
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- 15:46Speaker 1: An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child
- 15:50Speaker 1: in Massachusetts. An MS thirteen gang member from l Salvador
- 15:54Speaker 1: accused of murdering a Texas. Man of Venezuelan charged with
- 15:58Speaker 1: filming and selling child prinanography in Michigan. These are just
- 16:02Speaker 1: some of the heinous migrant criminals caught because of President
- 16:06Speaker 1: Donald J. Trump's leadership. I'm Christy Noman, the United States
- 16:09Speaker 1: Secretary of Homeland Security. Under President Trump, attempted illegal border
- 16:14Speaker 1: crossings are at the lowest levels ever recorded, and over
- 16:18Speaker 1: one hundred thousand illegal aliens have been arrested. If you
- 16:21Speaker 1: are here illegally your next you will be fine nearly
- 16:25Speaker 1: one thousand dollars a day, imprisoned and deported, you will
- 16:29Speaker 1: never return. But if you register using our CBP home
- 16:33Speaker 1: app and leave now, you could be allowed to return legally.
- 16:37Speaker 1: Do what's right. Leave now. Under President Trump, America's laws,
- 16:41Speaker 1: border and families will be protected.
- 16:44Speaker 3: Sponsored by the United States Department of Homeland Security.
- 16:46Speaker 2: Speech that's essential. The reason why America has been looked
- 16:52Speaker 2: at in his light is because most countries in the
- 16:54Speaker 2: world don't have free speech. Most countries in the world
- 16:57Speaker 2: you say something about the president, you can actually get killed.
- 16:59Speaker 2: Right in America, like you know, we've had the ability
- 17:03Speaker 2: for to say f the police, right like they like
- 17:07Speaker 2: they said that and then or you know, talking about
- 17:12Speaker 2: the president and easy walks through the White House with
- 17:14Speaker 2: the Jerry curl like you know what I mean, like.
- 17:16Speaker 3: This this is our culture hip hop.
- 17:18Speaker 2: But that's an example that in other countries nobody if
- 17:22Speaker 2: you would have said if the police, you would have
- 17:23Speaker 2: got killed or arrest the president. If you would have
- 17:25Speaker 2: said something about the president, you would your brains would
- 17:29Speaker 2: be blown out on the street. Well, who knows if
- 17:35Speaker 2: how this country might look in fifty years or one
- 17:37Speaker 2: hundred years. Right, if we take authoritarian approach to things
- 17:41Speaker 2: and limit people's freedom of speech and publicly and publicly
- 17:44Speaker 2: do it with such confidence, right, it wasn't even like
- 17:47Speaker 2: it was done in private. If we publicly start to
- 17:49Speaker 2: denouncing people's freedom of speech and such confidence, well, now
- 17:52Speaker 2: you make people scared to speak. And now once you
- 17:55Speaker 2: make people scared to speak, now you compromise freedom of speech,
- 17:59Speaker 2: you compromise the free press, and you create a very
- 18:02Speaker 2: a very dangerous situation. So I think that you're right
- 18:08Speaker 2: for sure, But you have to ask some point question authority,
- 18:13Speaker 2: because if you never question authority, then it'll just be
- 18:15Speaker 2: status quo. And that's not the way to have a
- 18:20Speaker 2: productive society by just following status quo. We have to
- 18:23Speaker 2: have uncomfortable conversations, we have to have debates, We have
- 18:28Speaker 2: to be able to question things publicly without getting denounced
- 18:33Speaker 2: and villainized. Right, it's part of this is this is
- 18:37Speaker 2: part of American culture.
- 18:40Speaker 3: Right. If we don't have this, we're not we don't
- 18:43Speaker 3: have America. This is part of it.
- 18:46Speaker 4: Quick question, like I was saying, it's important, right, but
- 18:49Speaker 4: you take it to conception, like we're talking about a
- 18:54Speaker 4: student body group, and so the average student of college
- 18:56Speaker 4: is what eighteen to twenty three, right, So you're still
- 18:59Speaker 4: to talking about minds that are still developing. And even
- 19:02Speaker 4: in an actman statement, he's saying we should be made
- 19:06Speaker 4: aware of people who support terrorist groups. Like you said,
- 19:08Speaker 4: there was nothing in there that as he's that's what
- 19:10Speaker 4: I'm saying, that was nothing I'm talking about his response.
- 19:13Speaker 4: So his response is that if people are supporting terrorist groups,
- 19:17Speaker 4: we should be made aware of that, especially if these
- 19:19Speaker 4: are people that were going to potentially hire in the future.
- 19:21Speaker 3: Inaccurate.
- 19:22Speaker 4: But what that does is when other CEOs read his statement,
- 19:26Speaker 4: they're going off of his inaccuracies. And so you get
- 19:30Speaker 4: the CEO of Sweet Greens saying, I want to know
- 19:32Speaker 4: who they are, so I can never hire these people, right,
- 19:35Speaker 4: And so we're talking about now this isn't even a
- 19:36Speaker 4: financial conversation anymore. And now this is just like any
- 19:40Speaker 4: career path that you're choosing. If your name is now released,
- 19:43Speaker 4: just over with. So like you're done. Yeah for a
- 19:47Speaker 4: statement or a group that you came together with when
- 19:50Speaker 4: you were in high school or just out of high
- 19:52Speaker 4: school in college nineteen to twenty three, and you said
- 19:55Speaker 4: something that somebody misconscrewed media picked it up. It was inaccurate.
- 19:59Speaker 4: The statements we're inaccurate, and now your life is ruined.
- 20:04Speaker 5: I don't even want to take the other side of argument,
- 20:06Speaker 5: But can I ask a question real quick? What me
- 20:10Speaker 5: at Red Panda and you guys are earning your leisure
- 20:14Speaker 5: hire anyone to say anything favorable about any neo Nazi group.
- 20:19Speaker 3: Well, let me ask you this.
- 20:22Speaker 2: It's already it's already happening because Robert Kawasaki, who I
- 20:27Speaker 2: read this book, I say that that his book changed
- 20:30Speaker 2: my life. When he says things like the Black Lives matter,
- 20:33Speaker 2: terrorists and George Floyd, you know, paraphrasing like you know,
- 20:36Speaker 2: it's kind of he's resistant arrest and all these things.
- 20:38Speaker 2: It's already done. We vote, the public has already voted
- 20:43Speaker 2: for Donald Trump. Who we can go through what he
- 20:45Speaker 2: says a variety of different times on a weekly basis.
- 20:50Speaker 2: I mean, we can just go through sports, we can
- 20:52Speaker 2: go through we can go through this whole list of things.
- 20:54Speaker 2: So to answer your question, we don't have We never
- 20:58Speaker 2: had power in this country. So that's not even a
- 21:00Speaker 2: fear question to ask because we don't control power. We
- 21:04Speaker 2: as far as black people, we're not in a position
- 21:06Speaker 2: to black boil anybody. We've never been. We can't black
- 21:09Speaker 2: boy anybody from politics. We see that they rose to
- 21:12Speaker 2: the highest level of power. We can't black black boy
- 21:14Speaker 2: anybody from finance. We see that they openly disrespect black people,
- 21:17Speaker 2: and they already they rise to the highest level of power.
- 21:20Speaker 2: We have never been in a position to actually enforce
- 21:23Speaker 2: any level of being able to black bail anybody.
- 21:28Speaker 5: So well, the bus boycotts, I think we just conceded
- 21:32Speaker 5: for the wrong things when we had leverage. There's a
- 21:36Speaker 5: bunch of brands where we can turn around and make
- 21:38Speaker 5: not popular if we choose.
- 21:40Speaker 3: I don't think we care enough.
- 21:41Speaker 2: To boycotting something and actually blackballing somebody's two different things.
- 21:45Speaker 2: We can boycott things and say we're not going to
- 21:47Speaker 2: support this business. I'm saying as far as having the
- 21:50Speaker 2: power vocally or non vocally to go on a board
- 21:55Speaker 2: meeting and say like not this versus not getting higher
- 21:57Speaker 2: and we're not gonna put money behind this campaign and
- 21:59Speaker 2: we not going to give him, that's something that we
- 22:01Speaker 2: just don't have. We've never had enough power too, and
- 22:03Speaker 2: we still to this day don't have enough power. So
- 22:05Speaker 2: it's hard to even speak from that hypothetical because we're
- 22:08Speaker 2: not in that position. We haven't, but we're in a
- 22:12Speaker 2: position where we can be black balled, and that has
- 22:15Speaker 2: happened continuously. Actvin said it verbally and like I said,
- 22:19Speaker 2: this is bigger than just the Harvest students. But this
- 22:21Speaker 2: brings up a bigger How many people, how many people
- 22:25Speaker 2: have said something where they supported Malcolm X and they
- 22:29Speaker 2: didn't agree with you supporting Malcolm X, And you'll never
- 22:31Speaker 2: know that you didn't get higher. You never know that
- 22:33Speaker 2: you that you didn't get corporate funded, how many people
- 22:35Speaker 2: supported the Black Panthers, The real black Panther's not the marvel.
- 22:39Speaker 2: And just by you saying that, you never know that
- 22:43Speaker 2: that was the reason why it didn't work out for you.
- 22:45Speaker 2: You never know that that's the reason why you didn't
- 22:47Speaker 2: advance in your career.
- 22:48Speaker 4: You didn't plait that home loan that could have changed
- 22:50Speaker 4: your family trajectory forty five fifty years ago.
- 22:54Speaker 3: It's implicit.
- 22:55Speaker 4: It's not as explicit as him saying this.
- 22:58Speaker 5: But okay, last point, if we can state the obvious
- 23:05Speaker 5: Ackman's ethnicity plays a lot into what he said, and
- 23:11Speaker 5: as it should.
- 23:14Speaker 3: I don't.
- 23:16Speaker 5: And I don't want to dance around it, but I
- 23:18Speaker 5: also don't want to turn up on it. But it's
- 23:20Speaker 5: like people have to be mindful of the repercussions of
- 23:23Speaker 5: what they say, and we've seen people get canceled before
- 23:29Speaker 5: over similar comments. Just because you're in college doesn't negate
- 23:33Speaker 5: you of responsibility for it. Do I think it's fair? No,
- 23:38Speaker 5: But this is the truth. This has always been done.
- 23:41Speaker 5: This is not new, and he's not the first one
- 23:44Speaker 5: publicly to say it. Like even at one point when
- 23:47Speaker 5: I went to Indiana, university. If you said anything crazy
- 23:49Speaker 5: about Bob Knight, it was going to affect your life
- 23:52Speaker 5: on campus at one point, like Bob was King of Bloomington,
- 23:56Speaker 5: if you said something disparaited about him, and it would
- 24:00Speaker 5: have an impact on your grades and how teachers felt
- 24:03Speaker 5: about you if they were pro him. This has always happened.
- 24:07Speaker 5: The biggest thing I want us to take away is
- 24:09Speaker 5: free speech is not free. Press is not free as
- 24:12Speaker 5: if farmers paying for it. And we've never had the
- 24:15Speaker 5: right to publicly say whatever we wanted to.
- 24:18Speaker 4: But even at night, there's a good example. Until you
- 24:22Speaker 4: see him putting his hands around the kid's neck.
- 24:27Speaker 5: You should have made the layout or pass the ball,
- 24:31Speaker 5: you know what I mean? Like layup Coverdale was making
- 24:35Speaker 5: him three. Hey, babe boy, you should have made them
- 24:37Speaker 5: lay I'll choke you two.
- 24:38Speaker 3: You missed fourteen. I'm just joking. These jokes written by
- 24:40Speaker 3: eighty five South.
- 24:43Speaker 5: Dyden, right, but Alan Henderson, you should have made the layup.
- 24:47Speaker 3: Though.
- 24:48Speaker 2: The last thing we'll say about this is how do
- 24:50Speaker 2: you feel about DJ Flatt saying that Drake and Uh
- 24:55Speaker 2: is the most famous Jewish person in the world, and
- 24:57Speaker 2: DJ Kelli is the most famous Pastenian person in the world,
- 25:00Speaker 2: and they haven't said anything yet, and he's disappointed that
- 25:02Speaker 2: they haven't made comments.
- 25:05Speaker 5: I think Drake and Cali realize if they make a statement,
- 25:09Speaker 5: it would be too detrimental for their brand because they're
- 25:12Speaker 5: not well versed enough in it to speak on it,
- 25:14Speaker 5: and it will have an impact on their lives. Everyone
- 25:17Speaker 5: does have to make a statement. Glad, you should make
- 25:19Speaker 5: a statement. I think he made a statement. Continue to
- 25:23Speaker 5: put out what you're putting out on KVD and.
- 25:26Speaker 2: Paid all right, put out all right, mh okay, all right.
- 25:33Speaker 2: And then I think I think we have to offer
- 25:35Speaker 2: Bak a lot of my thing with I think with
- 25:38Speaker 2: the Blad situations that once again he acts, he acts Drake,
- 25:41Speaker 2: he said in Jewish, in Jewish law. Drake's mother is Jewish,
- 25:45Speaker 2: so he's Jewish by Jewish law. He was raised in
- 25:47Speaker 2: a Jewish community.
- 25:49Speaker 4: You know.
- 25:49Speaker 2: He gave a whole long list of things out, you know,
- 25:51Speaker 2: Drake and Jake Break says he's Jewish, so he should
- 25:53Speaker 2: he should speak as a.
- 25:54Speaker 3: Jews should speak on Jewish issues. My things.
- 25:56Speaker 2: I've never heard of Lad ever say that, you know,
- 25:58Speaker 2: and this is by historical law, definitely by American law,
- 26:02Speaker 2: if you had one drop of black blood in you, you
- 26:03Speaker 2: would consider black. Right, This is on the Flave plantat
- 26:07Speaker 2: If you would like skin, you might have got treated
- 26:09Speaker 2: a little better, but you were still black. You never
- 26:10Speaker 2: was treated as a white person. So Drake's father is
- 26:13Speaker 2: obviously black. He's a black man. Drake is entrenched in
- 26:17Speaker 2: hip hop culture, spends summers in Memphis, Tennessee, and as
- 26:20Speaker 2: a hip hop artist. I don't think anybody would debate
- 26:22Speaker 2: that he's a black man, just like j Cole who's biracial,
- 26:24Speaker 2: or President Obama or variety of other people. But I've
- 26:29Speaker 2: never heard him ever say that Drake, as a black man,
- 26:31Speaker 2: has an obligation to speak on black issues. So that's interesting.
- 26:35Speaker 2: But then also I think that yeah, it is wise.
- 26:38Speaker 2: It is a celebrity if you don't fully understand what
- 26:39Speaker 2: you're saying, to say nothing at all. We saw Justin
- 26:41Speaker 2: Bieber put up praying for Israel with a picture of Gaza,
- 26:46Speaker 2: and you know what, it's better not to say anything
- 26:54Speaker 2: if you're not as if you're we have a weird
- 26:56Speaker 2: of celebrity obfessional obsession and and and like it's like
- 26:59Speaker 2: even floor, like you know, Floyd is one of the
- 27:01Speaker 2: greatest boxes of all time and his business acumen is wonderful.
- 27:05Speaker 2: And we interviewed him at Market Mondays. And when I
- 27:08Speaker 2: the first time I met Floyda's Market Monday's, he had
- 27:10Speaker 2: glasses with no lenses in them.
- 27:12Speaker 6: So I say, I to say, I just be honest
- 27:16Speaker 6: with you, not just be honest with you, so I
- 27:18Speaker 6: know you paint. You gotta paint the picture so vivid
- 27:23Speaker 6: they can see it's clearly.
- 27:24Speaker 2: I don't I would necessarily take world views from Floyd.
- 27:29Speaker 3: Maybe, well, it's not my go to He's we've had.
- 27:34Speaker 4: Right, there's certain communities we look for people pundits that
- 27:37Speaker 4: are experts, have a welld verse in geopolitical issues.
- 27:42Speaker 3: Right in our community we look to entertainers.
- 27:45Speaker 2: Is it that we look to it or the media
- 27:47Speaker 2: pushes push because there are talking Hey, let's the media
- 27:53Speaker 2: interview that goes back to the black thing. Why do
- 27:55Speaker 2: you you you you obsessed for a Drake con There's
- 27:58Speaker 2: plenty of qualified people right that studies for years, that's relevant,
- 28:04Speaker 2: that can actually have an intelligent conversation. So we're pushed
- 28:08Speaker 2: on the fact of let's see what Lebron James is
- 28:12Speaker 2: going to say. Let's log on Twitter and see what
- 28:14Speaker 2: DJ Khaled has to say, like you know what I mean. Like, so,
- 28:17Speaker 2: I think that part of it is the media obsession
- 28:21Speaker 2: with celebrities that forces us to always look because the
- 28:25Speaker 2: first thing that happens, George Floyd have the first thing
- 28:29Speaker 2: we do is go to our favorite celebrity.
- 28:31Speaker 3: They see what do they do? They we checked every hour.
- 28:35Speaker 3: It becomes a story.
- 28:36Speaker 4: Right if if one of them say it as a celebrity,
- 28:39Speaker 4: then it's going to do more clicks. Right for that business,
- 28:42Speaker 4: for the media business to work, you have to have
- 28:43Speaker 4: people who are going to draw eyes and attention to
- 28:46Speaker 4: a statement or to a story. And so the fact
- 28:48Speaker 4: that they keep going to them is for that exactly reason.
- 28:51Speaker 3: But like, but they have they have influence.
- 28:54Speaker 2: So it's like Muhammad Ali, Right, this is a perfect
- 28:56Speaker 2: person who was actually qualified to speak, and he had
- 28:58Speaker 2: a lot of influence. And he's somebody that was a
- 29:00Speaker 2: leader even though he was a uh you know, entertained
- 29:04Speaker 2: as far as boxing. He was an athlete, right, But
- 29:06Speaker 2: like I said, you know, every every every athlete is
- 29:09Speaker 2: not Muhammad Ali.
- 29:10Speaker 7: No, no, now, Mohammed that era of athlete Ahama. Now, Kyrie,
- 29:18Speaker 7: you got Yo Russell, Kyrie, Kyle Russell, Jim Brown, Kyrie
- 29:23Speaker 7: and Kyrie.
- 29:24Speaker 2: Also got Jalen Brown Kyrie. Irvan Kaepernick had his moment
- 29:30Speaker 2: at the time he sparked the four. He didn't speak,
- 29:34Speaker 2: but to his point, to his credit, maybe he wasn't
- 29:37Speaker 2: confident or qualify or qualified right, true, all right?
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