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Paranormal Activity, Horror Movies & UFO's (Feat. Liam - The Spooky Shed Podcast) · Cosmic Peach

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  Speaker 1: Baby, I'm a gangstato. It takes a little tangle. You
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  Speaker 1: don't want to mess with me. Mess with me, baby,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a gangsta. Touch baby, you're a Gangstato.
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  Speaker 2: For the warning, this podcast is designed to take you
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  Speaker 2: outside of your comfort zone and make you question reality.
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  Speaker 2: Listening discretion is a vibe the Fellas.
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  Speaker 1: This ain't my first time at the rodeo. All right, everyone,
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  Speaker 1: I have a special guest tonight. It's Liam from the
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  Speaker 1: Spooky Shed podcast. I've been listening to this podcast for
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  Speaker 1: the last week or so. I'm getting really into it
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  Speaker 1: and I'm really excited for this one. Liam. How are you.
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  Speaker 3: I'm good, Thank you? How are you?
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  Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm good. It's it's nighttime for you, middle
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  Speaker 1: of the afternoon for me. So I'm glad you could
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  Speaker 1: join me.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is fine. This is what sid we always recorded.
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  Speaker 3: Always better to record when it's dark. I think when
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  Speaker 3: special when you're talking about spooky stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Yeah, no I would. The first time
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  Speaker 1: I sent you, I think you were like, yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: like three in the morning my time. So but we
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  Speaker 1: got it figured out. So I heard your podcast. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I heard you on the Let's get Freaky podcast, and
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  Speaker 1: then I went and checked out your show with your
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  Speaker 1: co host Billy, and I really liked it. Could you
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  Speaker 1: tell the listeners a little bit about it and like
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  Speaker 1: what you guys cover?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? So, like I say, it's the Spooky Shed podcast.
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  Speaker 3: Hence why we are sat? I think, why, well, why
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  Speaker 3: I'm sat in a shed freezing cold? But yeah, we
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  Speaker 3: obviously we just talked about all things spoking. Really, we
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  Speaker 3: do a lot into the paranormal, lot of the alien
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  Speaker 3: stuff UFOs with delving into a true crime world as well.
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  Speaker 3: We both enjoy that. Sou's a weird thing to say
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  Speaker 3: that you enjoy, but yeah, that's about it. Really. Hope
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  Speaker 3: we have guests on who tell of their really strange experiences,
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  Speaker 3: which is always fun to hear.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so I saw that you did some true
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  Speaker 1: crime stuff. I do true crime stuff too. I don't
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  Speaker 1: it's like you said, it's it's bad to say you
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  Speaker 1: love it, but I love it. I love talking about it.
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  Speaker 1: I love looking into it. And recently you guys kind
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  Speaker 1: of went on like, uh, right, would you call it
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  Speaker 1: like an investigation or was it planned or you just
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  Speaker 1: kind of went out there and just wanted to see
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  Speaker 1: what you could find.
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  Speaker 3: That it was planned say, and yeah, yeah, say it
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  Speaker 3: was an investigation. Well we're saying it is because that
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  Speaker 3: was the first one that we've done. Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Because I always talk about stuff, and I had
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  Speaker 1: this thing called Phantom Friday on my podcast where I
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  Speaker 1: would like invite people to come on and talk about
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  Speaker 1: their experiences and stuff. But I hadn't really like went
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  Speaker 1: out and went on a paranormal investigation myself. And I
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  Speaker 1: think sometimes you have to like put your money where
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  Speaker 1: your mouth is, Like, oh, I love paranormal stuff, but
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  Speaker 1: you never do any shit yourself, and it just makes
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  Speaker 1: you look like a pussy or something. So I was like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna start trying to do some shit.
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  Speaker 1: So we me and my family went to like this
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  Speaker 1: haunted it's been many things, but it was like a
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  Speaker 1: tuberculosis hospital and then it was like a place where
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  Speaker 1: they housed like horrible inmates and stuff, and like it
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  Speaker 1: had been all kinds of things. And I actually caught
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  Speaker 1: some crazy stuff while I was there. And then I
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  Speaker 1: went to like a haunted cemetery. I went to like
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  Speaker 1: a haunted bed and breakfast in Oklahoma. And it's good
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  Speaker 1: that you have a partner in crime, because for the
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  Speaker 1: Haunted Bed and Breakfast, I went fucking by myself. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't recommend that. I'm just gonna tell you straight up,
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  Speaker 1: if you want some spooky shit to happen, don't go
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  Speaker 1: by yourself. Would be my suggestion.
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  Speaker 3: Will old cemeteries be haunted? Right?
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  Speaker 1: You would think some more some more than others. I
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  Speaker 1: guess some more than others, that's true. Like if it's
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of like nice dead people buried there, maybe
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  Speaker 1: it's just like, you know, a casual like friendly breeze
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  Speaker 1: or something like that. The cemetery I went to was
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  Speaker 1: like a bunch of like really horrible people. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if you're familiar with the conspiracies around, like the
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  Speaker 1: Rockefeller family and stuff like that, but all the Rockefellers
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  Speaker 1: were at this cemetery I went to. I could just
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  Speaker 1: feel the bad vibes coming right up out of the ground.
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  Speaker 1: I felt like I was going to start my fucking period.
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  Speaker 1: It was so bad, and I just I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: And then so when you guys planned on doing this,
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  Speaker 1: obviously you went together, which is good. So if you
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  Speaker 1: see something you can kind of like ask the other
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  Speaker 1: person like, oh did you see that, or like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: but you compared it to the uh Blair Witch Project
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  Speaker 1: at one point, and I fucking love that movie so
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  Speaker 1: much it makes me want to go investigate a haunted forest.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Sam, I absolutely loved the movie. I mean, I
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  Speaker 3: remember when I remember when it came out. I can't
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  Speaker 3: remember how old it was, but I know I was
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  Speaker 3: very young and it was years before I was actually
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  Speaker 3: allowed to watch it. I remember my brother watched it
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  Speaker 3: when it came out because he's older than me, and
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  Speaker 3: I just remember getting so annoyed that he was allowed
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  Speaker 3: to watch it and I wasn't. And then when I
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  Speaker 3: finally did watch it, don't think I slept for like a.
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  Speaker 1: Week, right, Yeah? Did you think? Okay? So when it
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  Speaker 1: came out, did you think it was like real found
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  Speaker 1: footage or did you or worried?
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  Speaker 3: Definitely?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, me too. I thought it was like the real
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  Speaker 1: ship when it first came out, I was like, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: this is so real. They found this fucking footage somewhere
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  Speaker 1: and there's this, but then you find out like it
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  Speaker 1: was all fake. But I saw an episode on your
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  Speaker 1: on your podcast, and I listened to it, and I
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  Speaker 1: guess it's like based in some true ship though this story, I.
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  Speaker 3: Think so, Yeah, I think I think it's very it's
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  Speaker 3: very very very loosely based. There's like a couple of
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  Speaker 3: aspects to it that where there's a little bit of
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  Speaker 3: truth to it. Mm hmm. I do.
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  Speaker 1: I do see some episodes on your show though that
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  Speaker 1: are like murders near you and stuff like that. Ye
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  Speaker 1: are you? Do you feel like you're in a haunted area?
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  Speaker 1: Is there like a lot of stuff by you?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? I do know. It's it's funny because so when
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  Speaker 3: we started doing the podcast, because originally when me and
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  Speaker 3: Billy started doing a podcast, originally had a football podcast
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  Speaker 3: or soccer for you, and then we started we just
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  Speaker 3: we stopped doing actually it was too hard to do
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  Speaker 3: it every week whereas with this week and like both
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  Speaker 3: record and stuff. But so I was very skeptical. The
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  Speaker 3: whole idea, the whole idea for the podcast came because
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  Speaker 3: we we sat and had an argument about if we
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  Speaker 3: believed in ghosts or not, and then we were like,
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  Speaker 3: well we should have recorded that and on that as
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  Speaker 3: a podcast, and that that was how it started. So
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  Speaker 3: I was very skeptical when we first started and over
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  Speaker 3: the last just over a year. Now, I've become very
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  Speaker 3: much more of a believer in things, but I don't
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  Speaker 3: know what. So my little saying is now that I
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  Speaker 3: believe in things, but I don't know what I believe in.
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  Speaker 1: But okay, so this this place, that this forest, it's
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  Speaker 1: a forest, right that you were an investigated.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's it's it's a woodland. It's part too
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  Speaker 3: small to be called a forest. Tell me about eight acreuse.
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  Speaker 3: Oh okay, it's very small.
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  Speaker 1: You said in that interview with uh let's get freaky
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  Speaker 1: that a bunch of stuff had actually happened out there.
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  Speaker 1: Did you know that before you went or did you
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  Speaker 1: find that out later? Like murders and like bodies getting
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  Speaker 1: dumped and like all kinds of stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Well we both know we both know about some, Like
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  Speaker 3: I know about some of my Billy knew about some,
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  Speaker 3: but I didn't know about something that he knew about,
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  Speaker 3: if you know what I mean. So that was one
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  Speaker 3: good thing about it. It's like we both sort of
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  Speaker 3: give each other some stories to it, but like there
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  Speaker 3: is some there was some horrific history to there, obviously,
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  Speaker 3: the worst one being that's I think it was. I
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  Speaker 3: can't even remember when it was I think it was.
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  Speaker 3: I think it was two thousand and eight, maybe maybe
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  Speaker 3: before that. A dead baby was found there in a
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  Speaker 3: been in a black bin bag, which is obviously absolutely
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  Speaker 3: horrific and horrifying. I mean just it's wait because where
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  Speaker 3: we live as a very small town, so where the
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  Speaker 3: sort of place where you don't expect that stuff to happen.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, h is it kind of like suicide forest
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  Speaker 1: a little bit like just a bunch of weird stuff
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  Speaker 1: keeps happening.
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  Speaker 3: There sort of, I mean like sort of, yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: mean that's that's a good way of looking at it,
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  Speaker 3: because again, unfortunately, there has been quite a few people
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  Speaker 3: who have took their own lives there, which is obviously
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  Speaker 3: a shame. The weirdest one for me, it was because
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  Speaker 3: one I didn't know about him. My dad actually told
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  Speaker 3: me about it after I told him that we'd been there.
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  Speaker 3: There was a guy who was blasted to death with
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  Speaker 3: a shotgun, which is again is something that does not
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  Speaker 3: happen here very often. And it turns out the blog
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  Speaker 3: who actually doesn't shooting used to work with.
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  Speaker 1: My dad really like the murderer.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was all to do with drugs, of course,
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  Speaker 3: yeah exactly.
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  Speaker 1: And was there like an old hospital or something out
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  Speaker 1: there too.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so there's an old there's an old hospital there,
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  Speaker 3: there's an old there's like caretaker's house. So basically where
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  Speaker 3: it is. It used to be like a couple of
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  Speaker 3: hundred years ago. It used to be like one biggest
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  Speaker 3: state for one family. And now there's like a special
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  Speaker 3: needs school. I think there's two schools there. There's a
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  Speaker 3: couple of other buildings there. There's a church. There's there's
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  Speaker 3: actually an owl center, which is really random.
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  Speaker 1: Oh right, like a little sanctuary or whatever they call them.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, birds as you have heard on that episode.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, fuck them birds.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't go.
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  Speaker 1: So kind of walk me through, like what what led
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  Speaker 1: you guys to pick the area and what happened after
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  Speaker 1: you got out there?
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  Speaker 3: M hmm. Mainly because it's it's one of the close
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  Speaker 3: well one of the only real places around here with
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  Speaker 3: any sort of history like that that we both knew of.
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  Speaker 3: I am Billy had actually done a little investigation there
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  Speaker 3: before a couple of years ago. But Billy being there
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  Speaker 3: where can I use I don't know, but he's done
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  Speaker 3: it during the day.
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  Speaker 1: We went during the day.
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  Speaker 3: Oh so I like, I said, like with this, you
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  Speaker 3: have to do it when it's dark. It just makes
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  Speaker 3: it better.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
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  Speaker 3: So we decided, so we decided to go one night.
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  Speaker 3: So we got there. We climbed over the fence to
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  Speaker 3: get into the woodland area because we were parked up
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  Speaker 3: now where the Okay taker's house was, just because we
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  Speaker 3: knew where that was. So we parked the jumped over
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  Speaker 3: the fence of the do not signs, don't tell anybody,
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  Speaker 3: and it was It was really weird because I've been
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  Speaker 3: very skeptical skeptical on the whole idea of residual energy
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  Speaker 3: as well. But once we jumped over the fence, like
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  Speaker 3: less than about fifty yards into the actual woodland itself,
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  Speaker 3: I started to feel very uneasy. I mean, at first
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  Speaker 3: I thought it's just it's just because it's really dark.
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  Speaker 3: We had the smallest torch in the world that we
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  Speaker 3: could barely see a thing, So at first I just
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  Speaker 3: thought it was that. But then like the further we
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  Speaker 3: got into the woods, and then then the closer we
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  Speaker 3: got to the old house did there, I just I
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  Speaker 3: did not feel right at all. And after we've been
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  Speaker 3: in there for about an hour, but that that was
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  Speaker 3: why we had to leave, just because I felt so ill. First,
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  Speaker 3: that was terrific. But we got we got to the
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  Speaker 3: house first, so and I was like, well, let's let's
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  Speaker 3: do something here, and Billy Billy was admitting that he
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  Speaker 3: didn't want to because he said it was too near
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  Speaker 3: the main road. Bear in mind that there's literally one
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  Speaker 3: house in that area. So, I mean, I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know why I thought the road was going
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  Speaker 3: to be.
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  Speaker 1: So busy, so like a little bit like EVP stuff
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  Speaker 1: in there.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, were sort of just getting our bearings. I mean
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  Speaker 3: it was it was one of one of the ideas
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  Speaker 3: as well to go there because we thought, right, it's
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  Speaker 3: going to be dark. We both spent a lot of
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  Speaker 3: time in the woods as kids and stuff, so we
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  Speaker 3: sort of we pretty much know our way around. That's
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  Speaker 3: why when we got to the hall comparison to the player,
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  Speaker 3: which thing freaked us both mad. So so we decided
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  Speaker 3: to go and find the old hospital that was in there.
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  Speaker 3: Let's say, fine, like say, we pretty much knew we
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  Speaker 3: pretty much knew where it was. So we took off
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  Speaker 3: walking obviously through through all the trees and what have you,
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  Speaker 3: and then we got we got to the hospital, as
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  Speaker 3: in our heads, we should have done perfectly fine, perfectly normal.
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  Speaker 3: The windows in there were boarded up. I don't I
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  Speaker 3: don't know if to do it when working there or
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if it's just boarded up to keep
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  Speaker 3: people out. But obviously, like the whole thing wasn't entirely
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  Speaker 3: boorded up, but you could see light coming from around
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  Speaker 3: the boards, which was obviously really weird. So we were like,
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  Speaker 3: why the hell is anyone in there? Because it was
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  Speaker 3: like half past eight, nine o'clock at night, so they
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  Speaker 3: should not be anyone.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Like it's an abandoned place, like there shouldn't even
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  Speaker 1: be like electric to it or anything.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you wouldn't think so that. I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if there's any sort like renovation work going on
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  Speaker 3: in there at the minute. I'm not sure. We probably
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  Speaker 3: should have probably shouldn't have looked at up afterwards, but
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  Speaker 3: I mean, i'd i'd be surprised if there was, because
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  Speaker 3: it's it's literally sit in the middle of a woodland.
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  Speaker 3: To me, that's not what they can really do with it.
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  Speaker 3: But mm hmm, like that that would that freaked the
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  Speaker 3: poor fout. That was literally a case of like we
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  Speaker 3: noticed it and we both just stood there like, was
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  Speaker 3: it just like.
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  Speaker 1: One side of the hospital or was the whole damn
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  Speaker 1: thing lit up?
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  Speaker 3: No, it was just one window.
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  Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah that makes it worse.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, That's what I mean. If it was all
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  Speaker 3: of them, I could I could never say the viva
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  Speaker 3: like they don't work in the end, have left the
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  Speaker 3: lights on to not shy and detain what's the words
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  Speaker 3: looking for? Keep people away somehow? I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, was there a way to get inside of it?
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  Speaker 3: There was, but there was big metal fences in the way.
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  Speaker 1: Mmm.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm on the larger side of life and say
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  Speaker 3: it was bad enough getting over the first fence, So I.
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  Speaker 1: Was gonna say, next time, you gotta just find a
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  Speaker 1: way to bust in there.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'm like six foot three and I'm fairly heavy set,
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  Speaker 3: and Billy's like five foot six, So it's it's not
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  Speaker 3: like I say, it wouldn't be good for either of
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  Speaker 3: us trying to get over a bloody seven foot fence
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  Speaker 3: unless I threw him over it.
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  Speaker 1: Right, I was gonna say, just use Billy just like
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  Speaker 1: hoist him over.
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  Speaker 3: Then he won't be able to get back over.
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  Speaker 1: But that is creepy. Okay, so there's like a room
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  Speaker 1: in the hospital that's still like lit up and ship
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  Speaker 1: that is creepy. Did you feel physically ill? You said
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  Speaker 1: you weren't feeling good, like just walking around, Like did
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  Speaker 1: you feel like you're gonna throw up or anything? Or
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  Speaker 1: was it just like bad vibes?
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  Speaker 3: A bit of both. At first, it was just like
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  Speaker 3: bad vibes, and like say, I think I was a
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  Speaker 3: little bit I don't maybe disorientated from being like in
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  Speaker 3: the dark, I don't know, But later on I did
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  Speaker 3: genuinely feel like physic ill and like I just I
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  Speaker 3: just needed to be away from there.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm hm. Did you do you guys have like
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  Speaker 1: all the gear and stuff like ghost adventures, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and they load up and they got all the ship
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  Speaker 1: and all the like tactical vests on with like recorders
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  Speaker 1: and spirit boxes and all that. Do you do you
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  Speaker 1: have you guys invested in any of that stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Billy has been Billy has a lot of equipment. So
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  Speaker 3: Billy's got a couple of EMF detectors. He's got a
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  Speaker 3: couple of them. I'm a bit skeptical. I'm a bit
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  Speaker 3: skeptical on them though, because I mean, like an iPhone
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  Speaker 3: sets them things off, So I don't know much of them,
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  Speaker 3: I believe. But he has got spirit boxes, he's got
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  Speaker 3: cap balls, he's got REMP pods, got SLS camera.
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  Speaker 1: The SLS camera. That's cool.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was That was a big part of
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  Speaker 3: what happens later on.
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  Speaker 1: Right. I was gonna say, and you guys did see
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  Speaker 1: something later, but okay, let me and get ahead of myself.
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  Speaker 1: You're at the hospital right now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So, like I said, purely because there was the
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  Speaker 3: fence there, we were like, well, sadly, there's now we
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: can really do. So we thought, right, we'll go to
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: there's an old stable there as well. So it's hard,
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: it's hard to explain. So basically, when we were at
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: the house, we knew basically it's more or less a
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: straight line up to the hospital. So we've got we
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: got there absolutely fine. And then but then we also
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: knew then to go from the hospital, who would basically
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: so say it like I said, we're gone in the
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: straight line looking straight at the hospital. Then that we'd
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: have to go right and then left a little bit
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: further on to get to the old stables. So like
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: you said. We were like, right, this is fine. I
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: know we can barely see, but we know where we're going.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: We've been in these woods a million times. It's fine.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: So we took off walk and obviously we went to
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: the rides, walking that way towards the stables, because that
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: was when Billy done his first investigation. That was where
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: he got a lot of activity there, especially through his
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: spirit box. A lot of stuff come through that the time.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: So that was the next plan. So we've gone that way,
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: like I said, we've gone say. It took rights and
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: then took a little bit of a left and then somehow,
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: which is still baffles me now and still literally keeps
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: me awake, and I sometimes thinking about it, ended up
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: back where we started at the old caretaker's.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: House, and I think I remember him asking you this,
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: but I just want to ask you for myself. Did
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: the time it took you to get back to the
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: care to take yours house? Like the time added up?
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Like you didn't have missing time or anything.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: No, not that I can remember of, because obviously, like
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: Tommy asked me that question, and at first I was
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: just like no, no, But then but now I think, well, no,
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: card because because I remember what time we got home.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: We were home by about eleven o'clock at night, so
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, if any time did go missing, it was
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: like ten minutes. So not nothing exciting, but now like that,
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: But like I said, that's what's really weird. It's just
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: the fact that the way we went we should we
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: should have been further away from it, right, Yeah, it's
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: really weird, and it's the only funny bit of the
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: video I think. Well, the funniest part of the video
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: is where I said to Billy, mate, we're back at
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: the house, and he says, to me, what house. There's
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: literally there's only one house here, right.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like you couldn't believe that you guys like
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: could have possibly walked in a big circle, because that's
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: what it would be, right, Like you were headed away
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: from it and somehow you walked in a big circle
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: and got back to the house.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: Like that's creepy, basically exactly. But but the weirdest part
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: is as well, is even if we somehow missed the
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: stables and someone walked all the way back round, we
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: should have been on the other side of it, of
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: the house. We were on the same side that we were.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: You were back to the front of the house.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I mean. That's what makes
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: no sense.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: That is crazy exactly.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: It doesn't make sense.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: You freaked out when you realize.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was completely Like I said on the video,
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: I say, that's when I said to Billy, I said,
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: artist has gone full play witch now.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: So at that point, do you feel like kind of
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: like your your creep vibe was like at tin like
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: you were like, oh shit, this is real, like this
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: place is actually like there's something going on here.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, definitely, just just just because if if it
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: was somewhere we didn't know so well, it wouldn't have
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: freaked me out as much. But because, like I said,
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: in our heads anyway, we know that was like the
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: back of our hand sort of thing, like you know,
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: we we should we could walk through there with our
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: eyes shuting. Now that's obviously we couldn't in reality, but
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: you know, but do you know what I mean?
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, Yeah, and you would know if you were backtracking.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly exactly. So that that's just what made no sense.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: You guys decided like even after you got back to
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: the house, you were like, all right, let's keep going.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: I feel like I would have been like, let's get
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: the fuck out of here at.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: That point, yeah, exactly, like I say, instead of doing
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: a normal thing and running, we were like, right, well
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: let's just stay here. Then.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: It's that's why I say you always have to bring
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: a spotter with you, because when you start to freak out,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: that's it game over. But if you have a friend
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: with you, it's like, all right, maybe if we die
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: together it won't be as bad exactly exactly.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: So then well, then, like I said, then we got
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: Billy some of the Billy's equipment out, so we use
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: cat balls we had. We had to go with them
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: there again, that they're they're they're a strange one. He
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: was outside, I think, because especially if there's any sort
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: of wind, you know, I don't I don't know how
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: much you I think, how much you can rely on them.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: But then we use the spirit box for for a bit.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: A couple of little bits came through the odd word
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: here and there. I mean, it was nothing of note
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: because I can't even remember what it was. But then
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: the real the kicker was was when we set the
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: rempod up in the SLS camera. So because the first
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: with the SLS camera. That was one thing. I was like, well,
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: that's going to be pointless, like we're we're in a
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: brigging woods, like all the sticks and everything that it's
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: just going to go crazy. So then we decided, right,
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: what we'll do is we'll put the rempod in front
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: of the door for the house and obviously faced the
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: camera towards that where there's no branches or sticks or
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: anything from the trees. So we set that up and
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: then that was when when we went off and we've
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: done some other stuff like the capall someone have you,
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: and then we had the camera go off. So we
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: went back out of lock and the rempod was going mental,
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: the camera was going off, and then we looked on
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: the screen and it's just to fall on stick figure
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: there like legs, arms, head, everything in the doorway. Yeah. Yeah,
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: and just stood in front of the door.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: So all right, And for those that are listening who
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: don't know what the SLS camera is, it basically is
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: supposed to detect ghost bodies. I don't know how else
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: there is to say it, but like a little stick
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: figure will appear and it's like you said, if you
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: put it somewhere where there's like a lot of cluster
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: of congestive whatever, you're going to pick up on all
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: kinds of stuff. But I've seen it in ghost adventures
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: like a hundred times. If you put it like against
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: a wall or something that there's no not like a
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: doorway something like that, and it picks something up, it's
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: a lot more compelling because there's nothing that it should
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: be picking up on to give you like the figure.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Of a person exactly. The best way to describe it
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: is if anyone ever had an Xbox Connect, it's basically that.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, and so did when the rim pod was
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: going off and you saw the little stick figure where
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: you're like, all right, I'm done.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah on a video, I said like, no, I'm
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: doing comble going home.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Because it's like it wanted you to come back there
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: to see it anyways.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, well that was what we said. It's almost
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: as if like when we got there and we were like,
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: oh no, we won't do anything again, and then we
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: got led back there and then obviously like it showed
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: itself to a sort of thing mm hmm, which is
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: weird in itself.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Right. Did you end up going to the stables?
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: No, Like we couldn't find them.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Just couldn't find them at all. No, that's even creepy
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: exactly in itself.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: That is.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Like you know where they are and you just in
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: your walking Georgian and you can't It's like they've disappeared exactly.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: It was a horrible failure. But like that that was
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: when I started. Then after about ten minutes after that,
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: that was when I started to feel like really like
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: physically and like I was going to be sick. And
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: I was just like, I just said to Billy, because
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: we're actually live on Instagram at the time, and I
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: just said, look, we'd this. I'm gonna have to go
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: because I just do not feel right in the slightest
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: that this is horrible. So we ended the live, we
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: packed everything up, and then we just started leaving in
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: literally like every every ten yards further, like we've got
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: to get out of the woods. I felt better every
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: every step. I just feel better straight away. And then
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: as soon as you like jump back over the fence,
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: I literally had to sit down for like five minutes.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: I just sat there on the road.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Uh huh. Do you ever feel like you can bring
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: stuff like that back home with you? Though?
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: Possibly? I mean, I mean we've spoke to people like
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: psychic mediums and stuff who have told us that they've
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: had things come back with them from different places. So
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I think I think it depends how.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: I think it all depends on like energies and stuff.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Personally, like how open you are to it.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe maybe you do.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: You feel like anything followed you home?
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: No? No, no, I mean I was, Excuse me, I was.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: I was awake most of the night afterwards, But I
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: think that was just sort of like an adrenaline rush
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: shot the thing. I was just like, what the hell
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: has just happened? And how that made any sense?
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: That's been more of the night. Start staring at the
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: telly watching nothing, just being like I can't explain.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: It, right, Yeah, because you would like want to go
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: back and like backtrack your steps and be like, well
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: maybe we did like get turned off and like we
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: started backtracked, but you can't you don't remember that at all?
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: No, No, Well, I think what we want to do
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: is we want to go back, but go back just
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: as it's starting to get dark, and like have a
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: walk around first, like in the lights so we can
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: actually see everything perfectly fine, and then like start again
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: from the beginning, if you know what I mean, And
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: then like if anything like that then happens again, then
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: that's just roof that there's something in it. Right.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: So because you said when you guys started podcasting, you
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: were pretty skeptical of all of this, and now you're
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: leaning more towards like you you believe this could be
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: real stuff.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: Oh, definitely, after that night, I mean, after after all
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: the things I've looked into it, after all the people
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: I've spoken to that already started making me believe in
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: the modern things. But then after that on personal experience
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: for myself, not one hundred percent. They can never be
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: a hundred percent of anything, so not in nine percent.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: Now you know, there's definitely so much to all of this.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean, like I don't know about you,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: but for me, even when I went to go I
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: me and my family we went to like that old
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: tuberculosis hospital or whatever it was, and they have all
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: of the electricity turned off to this place, so you
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: can't like nothing that happens in there can be contaminated
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: by electric or like air conditioners kicking on and off
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: or like anything like that. And we caught like some
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: crazy stuff because I just had my phone out and
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: we were just like walking around. But at the very beginning,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: it's almost like maybe it's just because I'm immature. I
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: don't know, but like we were all walking around and
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: like laughing and like being stupid and like acting like retards.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Like oh, it's toned. And it took us a while
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: to like calm down and like actually get quiet and
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: take it seriously. But I think like the best paranormal
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: equipment that you have is your own body. Because the
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: darker it got outside and the more quiet we were
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: and we were like done goofing off or whatever, I
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: started getting actually really scared and we were hearing like
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: knocks on the wall and stuff like that. And it's
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: when it actually happens to you and you can like
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: feel it for yourself and like see it for yourself.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Everything is kind of like different because you realize that
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: it's not just like some made up bullshit on Ghost
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Adventures or something. Yeah, exactly did you watch shows like that?
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: I did. Like we have one over here. I don't
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: even know if you might not have even heard of it.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: It's called Most Haunted and it's pretty much like a
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: stable ovarrier for anyone who's into the paranormal. It's been
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: on for years. I think it's actually still good. It's
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: been going for nearly over twenty years. And when it
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: first started, like it was, it was really big, and
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: it was like loads of people watched it, and then
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: over the years it's just sort of got really well,
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: a bit silly.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: To be honest, like a reality TV show sort of.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like they started getting like celebrities and stuff on
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: there exactly. But mine and Billy's favorite one ever, so
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: like the residents side that they had was a guy
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: called Derek Okorra who was from Liverpool. We will obviously
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: have a very prominent accent, and there's an episode where
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: he clearly he gets possessed in quotations level though it's
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: absolutely brilliant. He's just stood then, like he shuts his
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: eyes and he just there's a whole you know with
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: the body shakes and everything, and then he just starts
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: going Mary loves Dick, Mary loves Dick. No, he does not,
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: I swear to God, I'll send you the clip for it.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: It's one of the best bits of Telly I've ever
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: seen in my life.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: He's being for real, like he's channeling the spirit and insane.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: It loves Dick.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: Well apparently so.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: Oh my god. So it's like like a paranormal investigation
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: type show or is it like the Acnex.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: No, No, it's like that's investigations like that. I mean
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: he used to be huge, Like every Halloween he used
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: to do a live episode and everything that's done, a
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: lot of live episodes that have done, like tours of it.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: He used to be absolutely massive, but then, like I said,
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: a lot of people have started to lean away from it.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: I think I think, mainly to be my personal opinion
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: is because of that incident, because everyone just went right,
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: this is just this is just getting silly now, right,
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: And the main horst on it, she's very over the years.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: You would imagine if you if you go to all
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: these hearted places, I would personally imagine that you would
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: sort of get use to like you know, hearing the
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: odd bang here there and everywhere. She just up every
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: single series of a slight knock on the wall and
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: she's screaming as it suff like running out the door
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: sort of thing, and it's just like, oh, for God's sake.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's what I mean, because like all right.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: I watch Ghost Adventures, and you know, anytime I say
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: that to someone who's not into this stuff, they're like,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: you know, all that shit is fake, right, Like they're
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: acting and that stuff is like stage. But I actually
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: went to a place in Oklahoma that was on an
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: episode of Ghost Adventures by myself, and yeah, I don't know,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Like I think the places that they go to are
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: probably haunted. And I, for myself, like I felt really
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: weird when I went there, and I did feel like I,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: you know, caught some stuff. But I do think like
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: some of these shows they judge it up. You know,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: they add spices and shit to make because like what
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: if you had a ghost show and it's like they
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: never really caught anything, it would suck. Nobody would watch it.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: So it's like they have to throw some spices in
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: there to like get people's attention. But if you actually
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: go to these places, I do believe like there is
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: real like haunted places and like paranormal shit that happens.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. I mean, you just you just don't speak
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: to When anyone who uploads their own investigations on YouTube,
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: you know, they'll put a video out there will be
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: forty five minutes long. They've probably actually recorded for about
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: three or four hours.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: That's just the way it goes like it's it's not
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: you go to a haunted house and there's banging on
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: the walls, there's chairs being flung all over, there's weird
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: noises coming from in the cupboard. It's just everybody's a
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: waiting game.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, yeah. So have you interviewed people who
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: have had like crazy experiences?
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, Like I said, we've had a guy on
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: twice called Mark Hughes. He's been a medium for God
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: longer than I've been alive, I think, because I think
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: he's in his sixties now, so he's some of the
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: he's told us. He's just really bizarre. Like he's a
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: guy who told us that he actually had a an
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: evil spirit follow him home.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Did was he at like a specific place and it
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: followed him? Is he from over there? Like where you are?
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, so he's like we're up north, he's down south,
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: And like he does a lot of events, a lot
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: of a lot like investigations and like you know, paranormal
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: evenings sort of thing, reading nights, and I remember, I think,
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: just trying to remember it yeah, so that, yeah, that
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: was it. So it was doing like it was doing
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: like a group events, and there was this there was
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: a there was a young couple, Larry said, and the
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: like the girl saw her eyes just sort of went
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: black and like she was like probably glazed over and
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: she was like just stood there like just staring like
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: just blankly through nothing for a while. And then obviously
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: they managed to get the come back round. And then
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: at the end of the night, obviously when everybody left,
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: he went home. He could fail, he said, he could
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: feel it was like something was like behind him, like
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: on the back of his head sort of thing here.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: So then he then he had to get someone else
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: who someone else it was a medium to like.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: I don't even notice it, like like or something.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a better word. That's a
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: better word. I was gonna say, like.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Vanish, right, well yeah, I mean like that's essentially it, right,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Like they gotta get like this weird. That's what I'm
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: scared of because even like the couple of places I
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: went to and why I'm so nervous about it. Sometimes
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: like with cemeteries and ship it's like you don't know
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: what's in there, like I think even cemeteries could be
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: just like a place where like just like bad spirit,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: like you just hang out there, you know, if you're
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: dead and God only that's like murderers rapist you don't
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: know who's buried in there and you're just like walking
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: around and fucking God only knows. Like that. My worst
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: fear is something following me back home mhm and not
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: knowing it.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, funny enough to like to like finish off
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: the story of our of our investigation that we've done.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: So like I said that obviously, when we got out,
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: I sat down on the road for a bit and
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: Billy had a weird experience on the first investigation that
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: he'd done. So again when they'd left, like I said,
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: the first investigation he'd done, when I wasn't there, he
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: showed me the video for it, and he goes back
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: over to where the house is, and you just he
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: just really just records the house and then he shot
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: the zooms in and then like the screen like on
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: the video almost go It's almost as if like there's
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: a someone's put like an effect on like a black
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: smoke going across it, which is really weird. So then
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: Billy's like no, I'm out. So then that that's where
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: that that's where his first video.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: So like an apparition, yeah, like a black like smoke,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: like a shadowy smoke. Yeah yeah, fuck that that's the
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: kind of ship that follows you home, the ones still
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: like the fucking shadow people and ship.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: Yah. So when So then when I was sat on
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: the road like trying to trying to sort myself out,
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: he decided he want to go back to where he'd
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: filmed that originally. So he went back there and just
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: they just started recording. Obviously had his camera and it
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: had the flash on, and so the caretaker's house bit
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: the windows on that that are boarded up, the like
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: metal sheets, so he like obviously panned round with his
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: camera and one of the windows just completely lit up.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: So he just fell straight away. Oh well, that's just
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: just the flysh off the camera. So he's like he
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: panned away again and panned back and doing it like
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: three or four times, and he didn't do it again
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: spend one time. Yeah, So like Billy Reckons, there was
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: something in that could very well be but again could
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: to me it still could have just been in the
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: flash off his camera. It was just literally just it
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: had to be at a certain angle, you know what
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: I mean obviously when when you're just doing it free
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: and is never going to be in the same place again.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: But I mean that definitely freaked him out. But then
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: but then the was this the worst part? Yeah? Probably,
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: So the worst part for me was actually after that
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: when we left, so because he comes running back over
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: and he's like, I need to show you this, I
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: need to show you this. So then I stand up
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: and then fun enough, actually wearing the same audio I
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: was wearing. Now. You know when you're in a big
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: crowd and you feel someone like brushed past you from behind.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: That is literally what I felt like, someone like like went.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Across the back of me at your house.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: No, No, like when when when we were still there,
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: like showed me this and I just stood up. I
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: have been sat down on the road and then I
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: just felt someone like walk is is this something like
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: brush was walking behind me? Like brush past my shoulders.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: That's the worst. I don't want to get touched.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. It's The video is actually quite funny because
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: Billy's like trying to like, I need to show you this,
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: and I meant no, no, some fuckers just touched there.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: I was like, where're fucking going?
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Now, that's gotta be like the worst because even when
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: like I went to all these places and ship, you
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: know how like when the bare normal team shows up
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: and they're like touch me, grab my legs, squeeze my ass,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: like they don't give a ship. I do not want
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: to get touched. It's like, throw this ball across the room,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: knock something over, bang on the wall. Do not touch
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: me though, Like that's the worst feeling ever.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, No, that's something I never want to experience.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Is again, Yeah, they're basically like molesting you and you
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: can't even see where where they are what it is,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: it's just a demon just rubbing up against you.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: Exactly. But it's it's just the fact that to me,
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: the wadst part with that is it's like it's you
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: know that there's there's no one there, but you can
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: feel it and that like like I just think your
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: brain can't comprehend.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: It, right, Yeah. Yeah, So does Billy have any like
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: other pairanormal spots that he wants to go to, Like
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: do you have you guys sat down and thought about it,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: like what you want to do next?
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: I mean we've got ideas, but the problem for us
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: is that, like I said, where we live, there isn't
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: there isn't a massive amount of places around here that
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: you can easily go to. There was one in the
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: next town over where Billy grew up, where I work,
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: where we being in both met that's a really really
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: old it's weird. It's weird because it's called Winkies Castle,
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: but it's a cossage. It's a cottage, so I don't
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: know why it's called castle, don't. But we we got
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: in touch with them and asked them if we could
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: go in there, because there's a lot of history of
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: that place. Billy knows a lot more about it than
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: I do. But sadly they said no to us, which
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: is annoying.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: So it's been like an abandoned place.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: No. So it used to be like it was like
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: it's an old meeting seem now or it was it's
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: closed at the minute. It's been closed for a couple
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: of years. It was, but I remember when it closed,
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: it got it closed, and then it was supposed to
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: reopen it in like a couple of weeks a couple
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: of months later, and it's been about four or five.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Years now and they just started doing ship with it.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: No, it is weird.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, I wonder if they just
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: don't want people like going in there and supervised and
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: fucking you know what I mean?
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: Because possibly. But but the weird thing is where it is.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: It's on like the high street. It's like there's there's
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: two houses. There's a house either side of it on
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: the main road.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: I mean it's weird.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Well, you guys did it. You did an episode on
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: I think it might have been like one of your
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: first episodes ever about the ancient ram in.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: How close is that to you? Because I also covered
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: an episode on it because I was freaked out by it.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: Well, we do want to go there eventually, but that's
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: like four and a half hour drive.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: For us, so it's pretty close.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: Well not not. This is the funny thing. This is
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: what's hilarious whenever, whenever we do this with anyone who
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: lives in the US, because that's like literally the other
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: end of the country.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Is it really?
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I go beat the other end of the
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: country in like six hours. You could do the full
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: length of the county and back and you could still
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: be in the same state.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Really, yeah, because I feel like four hours for me
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: would be like a day trip. Like just go down there,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: do a little fucking around, and then drive back. That's
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: an eight hour day. Actually no, if you stay there
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: for an hour, that's like a nine hour day.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well I couldn't. I couldn't go that far, would
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: be there for an hour. I like we've said if
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: we go there, we want to like do like a
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: night there basically, if if that's a possibility.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: To open to the public. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Do you remember, uh,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: because if you don't, I think I remember a little
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: bit of the stories, but like it used to be
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: something and like they found like a body buried under
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: the floor there, and then it was on an episode
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: of Ghost Adventures and then like they had it. Wasn't
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: it like a bed and breakfast? Is it still open?
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: It's it's not open as a bed and breakfast. It's
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: literally open as like a tourist attraction if you want
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: to call it that for obviously you know the paranormal
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: side of things. Mm hmmm, I'm pretty sure that is
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: literally all it's used for now.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: That would be a good one. You guys should go there.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, well we want to, but it's like it's
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: it's getting the time off work and we're both both
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: having a time off work and both being just just
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: free at the time basically to do it. Because it's
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: like I say, I mean, because it's one of them.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: It's it's it sounds silly, but like I said, because
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: I'd want to do it overnight, and I always say
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: if you if you're going somewhere and you're staying overnight,
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to sleep, right.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, you've got to be dedicated to it. You gotta.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: And Billy can't drive, so be me doing all the driving.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: So like I'm not, I'm not driving four and a
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: half hours, staying up all night, and then driving four
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: and a half hours home. So it'd have to be
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: a case of go there, stay up for the night,
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: and then stay there again so I can actually go
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: to sleep before before driving home.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: It might be totally worth it, though I've heard some
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: crazy stories about that place.
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: It definitely be worth it. I'm not for a fact
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: it'd be worth it, just just just through videos that
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: I've watched and other people that I've spoken to. It's
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: it's definitely stunts on the bucket list, it's probably top
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: of it, to be honest.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm, Well, I sound like a retarded American if
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: I say, like I just feel like there should be
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: like a million haunted things near you, because like everything's
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: so old over there.
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: No, I mean, I mean there is, but it's it's
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: like it's getting it's getting into the places, and a
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: lot of places have been like knocked down. Like we
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: had an old We had an old cinema that i'd
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: have I would have loved to have gone into. But
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: then not the one. They've knocked that down and built
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: a new one now. But like the old the old
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: one had been I don't know how long it was
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: when it started off. It was a theater and everything,
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: and I've done loads of working there with my dad,
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: and we used to go there every year with school
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: and stuff. So it meant a lot to me that place.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: And then so i'd like I said, I'd love to
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: have done something in there, because I I do not
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: just feel like, you know, like an old your backstage ground,
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: an old like you know, Fantom of the opposite of
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: the ship that there's going there's gonna be someone there.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No ship. I went to this one place in Cleveland, Ohio,
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: and it's called the Franklin Castle. It's kind of like
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: what you said, they always called you a castle, and
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: it's not fucking a castle. It's just like a big
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: house made of stone, so I guess that makes it
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: a castle. So, but they wouldn't let you use your
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: phone in there, they wouldn't let you take a picture
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: in there, They wouldn't let you do They just wanted
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: you to fucking walk around and be like, yeah, I
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: saw it and left.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: So I just I just like, what's the point of that, right.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: And it's like it was like twenty dollars a ticket
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: per person. So by the time me and my whole
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: family spent hundreds of dollars to get in there, because
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: there was like ten of us, you don't get to
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: take a picture, you don't get to it. And there
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: was like a drunk guy that was like a tour guide,
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: and I think half of the shit he said he
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: fucking made up. I don't even know if it was
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: even real. But they're trying to like renovate it to
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: make it look nice and shit for tours, which is
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: why I think the tickets are so expensive. But it
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: used to be like just somebody had broken there and
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: like burnt it down and like that you could just
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: go in there and do paranormal investigations and nobody cared
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: because it was kind of like dilapidated and burnt up.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: But now they're trying to like fix it, and so
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: they don't. It's like they don't want you to take pictures.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: They don't want you to take videos, even though it's
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: supposed to be one of the most haunted places in
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: the US. And I don't know, it's just like, do
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: you feel like at some point it just gets gimmicky
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: with that kind of shit, Like you can't even take
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: a picture in there now, but it's supposedly it's the
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: most haunted place in America.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, Like I don't see the point of why
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: you would, because to me, they would get more custom
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: if to let people take pictures, take videos and stuff,
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: because then, like I mean, if you if you say
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: you go there and you make a video and you
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: catch some things but not a lot, but enough to
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: that keeps you interested, You're probably gonna want to go
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: again and do it again, and more.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: People will want to go that like sees your video, right, exactly.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: That's what I mean. Yeah, that just seems silly. Well,
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: like I said, I mean our last episode that we've
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: just put out. I was there with Joe from Tailstairs
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: and Tales, Trails and Taverns. They went to the Conjuring
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: House and they said that was sort of like that,
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: like you know, you can't do this, you can't do that,
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: and it's just like, what's the bloody point that? Right?
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So this guy you just interviewed winto the
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Conjuring House. Yeah, did he see anything or does he
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: feel like that whole thing is just like because they
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: made the movie and ship, so you gotta be skeptical
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: of what the fuck is actually true about it?
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah? No, like he said, if like say it again,
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: sort of he didn't. He didn't use the word gimmick,
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: but I can't remember what he said, but along them
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: lines like it just felt like it was a bit
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: sort of it's a bit a bit touristy mm hmmm
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: mm hmm.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: So he didn't catch anything, No, No, did he feel
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: any ghost like try to grope him, molest him. Nothing. No,
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: no clapping in the dark, no, none of that ship.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: No, but that that that that that's a good point
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: actually in that film, like that I never I never
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: thought about that, but that that would probably weirdly now
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: I'm just thinking that would have probably been one of
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: the worst things to hear, like in the dark Room.
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: It was just some fucker clapping. Okay, you never actually
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: thought about that until you just said.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: That, right, Yeah, So okay, you know the story it's
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: like based off of like Lorraine ed and Lorraine Warren,
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: who were like the first paranormal investigators and shit, Like
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: I did an episode on them, which we should team
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: up in the future, and I can do this presentation
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: for you because you'll probably as a previous skeptic as
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: I kind of was. I thought they were full of shit,
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: and they some I think like maybe they experienced twenty
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: percent of the stuff that they actually said. They like
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: the movies that they make about these guys are crazy
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: like Amityville, Horror, The Conjuring, Annabelle, Like they made all
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: these movies, and it's like, how much of that shit
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: is actually like these guys were like actors.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: At some point, Like I mean, I like the films
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: almost admit I really liked the Conjured films, and I'm
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: looking forward to the new one coming out. But like
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: for me, like I thought the first one was really good,
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: the second one because it was enn fail. I don't
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: believe a thing about the Nfield Hert Now. I think
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: the whole thing is just bollocks.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: Oh that is a good question, actually, because isn't is
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: that anywhere near you?
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: No, again, that's not.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: Okay. But had you heard stories about it before you
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: saw the movie?
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I know all about it. It's
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: one of the that's one of the things you get
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: we get told about when we kids.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: Like the family. Did they you think they made it up?
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Definitely, yeah, really, yeah, I know, I know. The
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: only thing that the only thing that gives me any
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: like five percent chance of believing it is the fact
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: that the police officers claimed to have seen like you know,
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: chairs move and stuff.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: Is that a place that's open for investigation.
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think I just think someone
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: actually just lives in the house. Now, I just think
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: it's a I just think it's a house.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: Again, and they're not getting thrown across the walls or
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: any demon nuns showing up nothing. See.
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: So well, like I said that that was what ruined
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: the film for me, because it's as skeptical as I
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: am of the unfailed Haunting. I was like, well, you know,
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: you'll be able to make it into a good movie anyway.
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: And then like some fucking demon, None with the weirdest
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: nose I've ever seen in my life turns up and
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: I was like, well, this has just ruined it. Then
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: for some reason, I watched the film than None, and
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: that was even worse.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: Oh god, I didn't like it at all.
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: So you're the bad movie.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: You like your horror movies too?
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: I love them?
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: Oh me too. Okay, So I went to go see
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: The Nun and I was like so stoked on it
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: because how creepy they made it look. And they took
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: the movie and it's just like dog shit, Like it's
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: not even.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: Scary exactly, it's just stupid. Right.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: So there's a new country coming out. I didn't even
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: know that.
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's called Last Rights.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: Last Rights. Does it have the same ed and the
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: rain people in it?
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, it's good, it's gonna it's gonna be It's
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: like the last one in the series. Obviously, Like I said,
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: like the Non and Annabelle and stuff like that. There
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: were like spinoffs from it. It's the three films.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's three.
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: Right, I'm not if they come out with another one,
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: they can burn in hell because this the first one
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: was bad enough to where I was totally disinterested in
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: it completely. But the so Eden Lorraine Warren, they were
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: they were made famous actually by the Amityville thing. And
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: I watched this documentary of the kid from the family,
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: the Lutz family, I think his name was Danny, and
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: when I watched him talk about it, I wanted to
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: believe him because he seemed like really genuine. But then
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: he said like his stepdad or whatever was like real
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: money hungry and weird, and they kind of like what
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: they were real interested in doing, like talk shows and stuff.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: After that, and then you know, they had people in
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: there filming and he said though that The one thing
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: that compelled me though, is he said that one day
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: he had his hand in the windowsill and he was
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: doing something and then it like slammed down and it
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: broke all of his fingers on that side, and his
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: stepdad wouldn't take him to the doctor to get it fixed.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: And they're like permanently like curved like that, like they
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: healed all kind of like messed up and deformed. And
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: when you see something like that, and he held his
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: hand up in everything. I mean, could he made this
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: story up? Sure? But I don't know how I feel
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: about Amityville, Like I want to believe that some crazy
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: shit did happen there. I mean, a whole family was
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: shot the fuck in the head, like the whole family,
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: so obviously there was some dark shit in there. But
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Like, what did you think about it?
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Azeville is funny, not funny, but it's
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: it's odd because it's it's almost it's two stories merged
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: into one. Mm hmmm, because I said, obviously you've got
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: the whole the whole family getting shot to death, and
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: then obviously got the family that moves in afterwards, where
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: all the weird shit apparently happens. Yeah, so it's like
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: it's either connected or is it all just coincidence? But
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: obviously our mutual friend Tommy as his famous saying going,
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: there's no such thing as.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: Coincidence, right, Yeah, he does say that, And I do
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: believe that, I mean to a certain degree, but I
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: do think they kind of like sensationalized it afterwards and
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: we're trying to like make themselves famous.
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: Oh, definitely, definitely. I think I think it's been proven.
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: Like the whole talk of like you know, like green
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: news and stuff coming out of the sockets and everything
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: like that, I think that's pretty much been debunked as
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: just harsh shit, right, And.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: Every time they made a movie about it, they like
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: upped it like a little bit more, a little bit more.
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: So.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: Did you watch the one with Ryan Reynolds.
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just gonna say about that.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: Oh God, that was They included a freaking Native American
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: fucking ritual thing in the basement, and it.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: Was horrible, Like when the priest goes in and he's
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: like looking into the air conditioning units and obviously all
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: the flyers come out with and then you just take
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: the weird voice and I get out, that's weird. The
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: whole the whole thing was just ship personally as well.
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: I don't think it. I don't think it helped that
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: it was Ryan Reynolds. No, like people.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: A good role for him because they're so used to
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: him being like a funny guy and like being Ryan Reynolds,
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: and he was just I don't know, the way that
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: they included all that Native American stuff. It totally turned
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: me off because there was no fucking mention of that.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: What's like they add spices every time they make a
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: new Amityville movie. But it's like you said about the
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: Infield haunting. Whoever moved in after the Lutz family moved
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: out said that they never experienced a fucking thing now,
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: a door squeaking, not a fucking window closing, nothing. So
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: at some point you have to wonder if the family
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: is fucking haunted exactly.
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah. The only the only place that I know of
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: that would I'd love to visit and isn't actually that
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: far from us, And he's probably second on the list
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: list after the Ramming is a place called thirty East Drive.
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: Have you heard of that? No?
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: What is it?
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: So it's supposed its supposed to be the most hearted
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: house over here in England in the UK. And I
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: can't remember the name of the family that lived there.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: It was like back in the seventies or the eighties,
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: and it was it was the Black Monk of Pontifract.
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: That was that. That's where it's a place called Pontiffract
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: and so that that to this house is still apparently
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: haunted by because you can go there now that they
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: can do they can do tours and everything that you
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: can spend the night there sort of thing, and like
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: it's it's very similar to like amate the ville Enfield.
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: This family would just tortured by obviously this spirit that
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: was in there. I think one time the dad of
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: the family, he was locked in at the call shed
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: with this with this spirit, and then apparently after that
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: he was just he was never the same person again.
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: So it's all, it's all really weird. I had a
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: guy in our podcast before he would be in there,
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: and he went in there very skeptical, and he went
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: upstairs on his own and he just sat he sat
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: on a bed in one of the bedrooms, and then
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: he said, like, uh, like bouncy ball sort of thing.
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: A little ball just like rolled out from under the
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: bed and then you started rolling around in circles in
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: front of him on the floor. I'd have been out
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: of the door, right.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying that your first mistake is always
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: every time breaking up into some kind of fucking Scooby
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: Doo gang style. Let's split up and when you get
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: by yourself somewhere that's when all the scary shit starts happening.
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: M hm, well, he said. The good thing in there
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: is they have cameras in all of the rooms, so
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: then they can actually look back at it afterwards and
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: like say, say, like he's to come down and telling
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: now there's this ball rolling around the thead like if
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: I was there, and I didn't say that, but like no,
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: you're talking ship. But like you say, when there's cameras
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: in there and you can see it, then.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, wow, that's compelling. Right in skeptical people would
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: say like, oh, the floor of the houses and the
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: houses and level, so that's probably why. But for me,
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: it's kind of like what you said, I don't know
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: if I necessarily believe in coincidences with stuff like that.
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: No, definitely not. And it's like the guy Don Christy
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: was called like it was very much like me, Whereas
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: like I, like I said, I believe in stuff, but
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: I don't know what I believe in. But I'll also
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: I'll always try to put a logical explanation to things first,
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: just because I think you have to. It's too easy
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: just to jump to paranormals. Of course, like no should
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: be with you but like we said, like how there
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: probably would be a way of do of like you know,
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: if you put it, maybe put like a little gyro
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: in a ball or something, and then you know you
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: could naked do that way it rolls out from the
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: bed and rolls around in a circle sort of thing.
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: There probably would be a way of doing that.
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: Then at the same time, like that just seems like
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: such a minuscule thing. Have set up a lot of things,
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: Like why would you bother if you want to do
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: if you're going to like set things up for things
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: to happen, it'd be like pictures flying off the wall
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: or books flying off shelves and stuff, right.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, right, right yeah. Because Okay, so this place
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: that I went to, this abandoned sanitarium that I went
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: to with my family, they let several paranormal groups in
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: there together at the same time, and you kind of
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: just have to understand, like if you pass by and
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: there's somebody in that room, go to another area. Right,
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: So when we were in there, there was probably like
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: five or six other groups in there just in it's
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: like three levels and two different wings, so it's easy
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: to kind of like go into a private area where
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: nobody is. And I thought some of the stuff that
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: I heard, I was like, well, there is other people,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: you know here. They could be making noises, they could
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: be using spirit boxes and shit, and I could just
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: be hearing stuff. But went So we decided, me and
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: my cousin and my other little cousin, we decided, we're
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: going to go to a place that's like completely quiet,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: where nobody else is investigating. So we went to the
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: second floor, down this corridor where like you had to
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: go in a room and it like broke off into
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: like a separate corridor, and then when you got out,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: it went down a hall. Like we were by ourselves.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: There was nobody else over there, and even if there was,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: they would we would have heard them because it was
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: so it was like we could hear each other breathing.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: And that's when we heard like the knocks on the wall,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: and then we started screaming and freaking out. And then
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: we ran back down the hall and there was another
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: paranormal group that heard us screaming, and they were like
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: way down in this separate wing and like, I don't know, so,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: could there be contamination, sure, because there are other people
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: walking around in there, but I hate to just like
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: I want to believe in it. I don't want to say, oh, well,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: it's an old place and the wall's probably creaking and
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: cracking or whatever, because it's like I said, you can
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: use your body almost as like a paranormal energy detector,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: and we all felt scared. It didn't feel like the
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: wall was creaking, you know, and there wasn't anybody else around.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: So when you start taking out like outside influences, you
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: are kind of sitting there like what the fuck is
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: that actually? You know, like did it did I really
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: just hear that? Or like is this really? Thank god
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: I caught it on my phone. But I don't know.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of like you, like I'm skeptical of some stuff,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: but at the same time, like I want to believe
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: it and I do want to have experiences.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: I know. I mean, it's like it's like I said,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: I mean, I just I just I always have to
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: go to like a logical explanation first. I have to
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: try and be logical about it first. I don't I
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: don't know why. It's just the way my brain works.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: But if I can't explain it, I'm Before I wouldn't
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: have been happy about that, but now I am because
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: I said, because I believe in things, but I don't
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: know what I believe it in, so I can I
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: can deal with that now, right.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's like sometimes you don't have to have the
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: answer for it.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, sometimes not knowing is almost better.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, So you were like a full blown
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: skeptic then.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well I well, I used to say that was
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: like five percent I believe in things, but whereas now
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: it's like ninety five. That's pretty good just of this
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: past year, and like I said, I went Little Night
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: in the Woods that we had.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: Right, and even listening to Let's Get Freaky podcasts because
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: I have found some of the guests that I have
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: on my show from his show, and every time I
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: talk to them, yeah, it's like I talk to them
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: for myself, and like the more people I interview and
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: the different experiences people have, it's just there is no
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: explaining some of it. And like not only ghosts, but
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: like cryptids and shit, like Bigfoot and shit, and like
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: do you believe in Mothman?
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: I want to say yes, because he's my favorite.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's my favorite too.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: Well, I think, I mean, I do struggle with it.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I think I think there's Summit in it.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: Whether it's actually you know him off man, if that
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: makes sense, I don't know, but I do think there's
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: something in it like it because yeah, maybe well maybe
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: we've done an episode all about Man and we put
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: a poll out after it, like you know, is wasn't
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: because I was obviously it wasn't just you know, the
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: point pleasant Obviously you think there was.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: That's the most famous thing.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like there's other places. I think there was, like
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: a mine in Mexico. Obviously there was sightings that you
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: know before that all happened, and yeah, exactly, Oh yeah,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: I forgot about that one. Obviously. We put a thing out,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: you know, is he the causer of these? Or is
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: he a warning? Because it's like you don't know personally,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: I like to say it to warning.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, yeah, like that's like.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: Him, right.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: I have always been obsessed with it. I'll tell you
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: why though. I've always been obsessed with it, as like
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: he's a harbinger of doom, you know, that's what they
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: s say. And I'll tell you what got me into
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: it was that stupid fucking Mathman Prophecies movie. I was
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: so and my mom was like, you know, this was
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: all based on a true story, and I was like, oh,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: my fucking god, are you serious? Right now? That movie
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: fucked me up. So like, how old were you when
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: you watched it? Because I was like a kid.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: Oh, yes, same. Well, like the funny thing is, it's
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: like it's very similar, very very similar. So I first
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: heard about Mathman was very very strangely. I was at
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: my nana's house one day and she was she had
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: like one of these terrible magazines that we have over here,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: and for some reason, there was there's something in it
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: about Mathman, and it was all the people who claimed, like,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: you know, the bloody jog had been taken and what
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: have you. And obviously the woman who saw him stood
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: next to a tree and stuff, and like my Nada
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: was telling me, it's it's like a big muffin. I
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: was in massive wings and everything, and I'm like that
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: sounds curl as fun. And then the obviously then a
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: couple of years later the movie came out and I
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: watched that and I was like fucking petrified. I must
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: have been I must have been twelve thirteen at the oldest.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: I can't remember when I can't remember what year it
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: came out.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Let me google it because I just
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: want to make sure because I want to say I
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: was like.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: Ten, and so how old are you?
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: I'm thirty?
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well well we might be might writing because
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: I'm thirty two. Okay, I was twelve that next sense.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: Let me see it came out in two thousand and two.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: So yeah, let me get my calculator.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: Yes, I'll have been yes, well, well i'll have been ten.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: Oh, I see I was even younger then. Yeah, that
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: was twenty two years ago. What why does it feel
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: like it was not like that long ago?
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: But I was petrified and like he was getting like
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: the calls from it and ship at the hotel room.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh god, the voice on the phone. That was
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: the worst part.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: Oh for sure, terrify me if you did so, you
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: did an episode on it? What was that ship?
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: Like? Did that?
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: Did he say that really happened? Like he was getting
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: phone calls from it and ship?
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: I never found I never found anything to do with
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: that that was like artistic, No, because it's I remember.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: So what's his name? The injured cold, isn't it? Yeah? Yeah?
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: Injured Ingrid Cole or something.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: Like that, injured cold. So I don't know. I don't
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: really know what that has to do with it, because
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: it's saying it. So. It is commonly known as the
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: Smiling Man. It's allegedly a human identity. The nickname comes
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: from the being tendency to smile at them almost everyone
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: that encountered him. So that just sounds like the movie Smile.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: Now, yeah, there's a new one of that coming out too,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: isn't there or it already came Yeah.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: It's already came out. Terrible you saw it? Yeah? Rubbish? Oh?
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: Really? Did you like the first one?
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: First one was brilliant? Second one harsh? Shit?
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: Really? Because I thought, doesn't it have like Jack Nicholson's
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: kid in it?
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: I think so? Yeah?
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: So should I?
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: Even you could tell? I wouldn't you could tell? Obviously?
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: The first one was doing on a very limited budget,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: but they've done it well like like, which is always
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: the case with horror films. And then, obviously, because it
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: did so well fucking proper, Hollywood decided to fucking rowell,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: we'll get involved with this then and fucking ruin it
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: like they always do.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: Did you watch one called uh talk to Me? Where
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: they grabbed the hand.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: And oh, yeah, the Netflix one?
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, did you like it?
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: I thought it was okay?
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know right. I was expecting it to be
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: way cooler.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: Because they have expected to be working hand.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: And fucking you know. It wasn't as cool as I
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: thought it would be.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: No, I was expecting that to be worse than what
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: it was because some people I used to work with
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: they told me to watch it. They've they all got
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: together one night in a little movie night and watched
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: that and like I said, I said, what was it about?
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: Because I said it was a horror film? So I
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: was like, right, when I'm straightened out, what's it about?
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: And then you said, oh, they'll just touched his hand
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: and then all this stuff happens. And I was like,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: that sounds terrible. I'll watch it anyway. And did you.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: Watch the one with Ethan Hawk? It was one of
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: my favorites within the last couple of years, The Black Black. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: I liked it. I thought it was I think out
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: of like the last couple of years, horror movies has
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: kind of taken like a downward turn. I don't know
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: if you agree with that, but I haven't seen very
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: many good ones.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah. We weirdly though, ifn Hulk's been in some of
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: the better ones over the last ten years, I would
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: stay with the likes of the Black Phone and Sinister
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: and stuff like.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: Oh Sinister, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like Sinister too, and
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: Insidious is one of my all time Faves's.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: The first one is good, then they got bad quickly,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: I thought, right.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: Right right, I stopped watching them after the second one.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: I did. Yeah, I wouldn't bother. Yeah, the second one
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: was watchable just because it carries on. Well, then I'm
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: pretty sure the third one is like a prequel, and
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: I hear prequels.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I don't like prequels either. Well, some of
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: them are okay, like the Alien movies, like they did
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: a pretty good job with like covering it, and like
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: Prometheus and shit, But horror movie prequels not so hot,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: like they don't usually. Yeah, but all right, so let
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: me ask you about this one, the fourth kind. Did
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: you think that shit was based on some real shit?
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't if that makes sense, Like I
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: somehow I could like comprehend the fact that like the
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: real footage that were showing in that wasn't actually real footage,
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: but I did think that it was based on real footage,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: if that makes sense.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: Right, Same, That's that's what I thought too, And then
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: it came out to be all the fuck made.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: Up, Yeah, which was really annoying.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So what do you what are your thoughts on
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: like extraterrestrial, fucking alien, fucking all that stuff?
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: Well, one hundred percent believing them, I think I think
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: you have to and mak My personal opinion is anyone
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: who doesn't believe that there is any sort of life
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: out there, how big or small it is, have fucking idiots.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: Have you ever seen anything?
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: This is the problem because I love alien stuff. But
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: when I got one thing that I could maybe relate
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: to one story and it's it's it's not very exciting.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: So basically, one morning I was driving to work at
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: my old job and it was like in like a
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: countryside area, So driving driving along, it's just like farmers
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: fields on either side of me. And it was like
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: half past six in the morning. I was on breakfast
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: shift and I'm driving along, as I said, to the
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: middle of sumhere. If it was like July August time,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: and the sun was behind me, I know for a
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: fact the sun was behind me, and then but then
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: I looked up in the sky and it was just
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: a bright circle in the sky. Best way to describe
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: it for me would be, do you know when you
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: can for some reason see the moon during the day. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: that's probably what I would compare its size wise, but
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: really fucking.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: Bright, like not definitely not the moon.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: No, no, definitely not the moon. And then it's sort
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: of like closed. Yeah.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I still went out of drive in movie theater
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: one time at night, and I'll never fucking forget it.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: It's like something like once you see something like that,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: it just stays in your memory forever.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: I didn't realize they were actually real things, were really
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: like driving like movie vaters. I did not realize that
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: was a real thing. I just I kind of do
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: see the point the.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: Drive in movie theater.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh god.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: Some of my best childhood memories are like going to
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: the drive in getting some nachos and some popcorn, sitting
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: out on a blanket watching the movie. But this specific
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: time that I went, it was supposed to be like
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: a date, and I was like, do you see that?
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: And the guy was like, not as cool as we are,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: and he wouldn't even look at it, and he got
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: all freaked out and then he wanted to leave right
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: in the middle of Spider Man, and I was like,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: fuck you, Like I really wanted it was this. It
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: was the Andrew Garfield Spider Man and I was like
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: really excited to see it. Yeah, and I was like,
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: fuck you were not leaving. But he wouldn't even look
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: at it. That's how creeped out, freaked out he was.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: But I saw it, and I'm pretty sure a lot
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: of other people at the drive in that night saw it.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: And at the time, I was ubessed with aliens, like
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: I wanted to be abducted. I wanted to have like
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: missing time. I wanted like to have that experience. And
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: I've never quite seen anything like it since. And Oh,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: it was like it looked like an orange almost like
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: orderb I guess you would say, and then like a
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: bunch of little ones like came out from it and
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: they were like smaller, little orange ones, and then they
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: were kind of pulsating and then they just all shot
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: off independently of each other, like at the speed of light.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: It was the craziest thing, and it lasted for maybe
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: sixty seconds, but it felt way longer than that because
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: you're just staring at it. But there was no there
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: was nothing there, no fireworks, no hot air ball like
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: people have asked me, and I'm like, no way, dude.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: It was putting off its own light source. It was
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: completely spherical or whatever, and it just was and the
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: color orange it was. I had never seen anything like that.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: And then the little one's breaking off, like you can't
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: explain that shit, and then it just right and like
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: it's the way that they shot off, like almost like
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: shooting stars or something, and they were just gone in
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: the blink of an eye. Uh. And I've always wanted
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: to see something else like that since then. And this
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: last year I went to go visit my family and
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: we were driving, uh next to Lake Erie in Cleveland, Ohio.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: And there are so many stories about Lake Erie and
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: they always say like they named it Lake Erie for
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: a reason because all the paranormal stuff. But my brother
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: saw UFO over Lake Erie. Dead bodies are always coming
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: up out of there. There's paranormal stuff there. They even
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: say that there's like a lockedest monster in there and
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: they they named it Bessie. But I've never seen Bessie, obviously,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: But we were just driving alongside of it, and I
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: looked into the water and there was like something in
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: the water and it was like rectangular shaped and water
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: was moving around it, but you couldn't see anything. If
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: that makes sense, it would be like a translucent rectangle
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: in the water that you could see water was moving
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: around it, like there was obviously like something in there.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: And I don't know. Sometimes I think that there is
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: stuff in the ocean, in lakes and shit like that,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: like maybe they pop up out of there. I hear
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: stuff like that all the time, like UFOs flying up
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: out of the water. But it was in the middle
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: of the day, which was odd to me, or else
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have been able to see it. And both
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: times I saw some weird paranormal stuff. It's been in
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: Ohio and I'm just starting to think that whole area
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: up there as fucked. Like there's ghosts, there's fucking UFOs,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: there's just all kinds of ship going on.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's definitely weird. That's definitely weird. But like I
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: do think there's there's a thing to like areas themselves
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: being more haunted than others, if that makes sense. I
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: think a lot of towns and cities are just more
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: prone to spots.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, hot spots for sure. I think if I
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: was gonna say Cleveland is definitely a hot spot, you should.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: I'm going to one next month where it's a city
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: are called York, one of the oldest cities.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: In the country, and it's a hot spot.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, definitely. Well, I've always I've always been told
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: that it's the most haunted city in the world. Really yeah,
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: I mean I I don't think I don't think it is.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yes, it's old as fuck what it It's
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: one of the oldest cities in the country, I believe.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: Really yeah. So it's it's it's strange because I was
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: I think I was. Last time me and Billy spoke,
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 3: I was having to explain this to him, like obviously,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: like obviously use of the United States because obviously you
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: have got all the different states and everything. Were the
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: United Kingdom because obviously we had all the different kingdoms,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: and obviously Yorkshire was one of them, and York is
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: the capital of Yorkshire, if that makes sense. So but
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: that's like, I mean, the place still has a city
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: wall around it, that's how yeah. Yeah, And there's loads
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: of like oh, there's there's loads of old like almost
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: like castle grounds and stuff. Like I said, within the city.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: The hotel I'm staying at next month. In front of that,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: there's an old it's an old tower came called Clifford's Tower,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: came war. It's actually used for when obviously when it
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: was being used. But there's a there's a pub there
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: that I'm going to definitely go to. It's called the
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: Golden Fleece and there's there's a lot of places that
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: claim it, but it's apparently the most haunted pub in
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: the country.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: Does ghosts serve your drinks? Do they find you in
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: the bathroom?
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: Did they hold hopefully not that, but hopefully the serving
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 3: the drinks at least.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: Well you'll have to tell me how that is. Where
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: are you going next month?
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah? And the next month?
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're taking your family. You're gonna have a family
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: ghost tour.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: No, just me and Matthian?
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, is there a ghost tour? Do they have those?
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I've done one of them before.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: It was a little bit gimmicky.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like it was it was like a it's
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 3: like a tour bus and obviously there was a guy
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: doing it obviously he was in character, and I knew
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 3: it was gonna be ridiculous when he said so his
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: character's name was Earl A. Grave.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: Really, they couldn't have come up with anything better than that,
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: exactly name Grave.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: So straight away I just right, I know this is
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: gonna be right.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: Well, okay, so you love horror movies. I'm sure you've
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: seen The Shining, right, yes, okay, So the hotel that
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: The Shining is based on is the Stanley Hotel in Colorado.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: And I went and stayed there, and uh, this is
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: what I mean when I say shit is gimmicky. The
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: room that uh, Stephen King stayed in is like eight
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: hundred dollars a night. There is a room where the
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: ghost hunters stayed in. That room is like six hundred
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: dollars a night. And I got what's called the Sunrise
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: Suite and it was five hundred and sixty dollars a night.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: And you get there and you think you're gonna have
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: an amazing experience. You're gonna get molested by ghosts, you're
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: gonna feel something, you're gonna see something something, and it
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: is all just completely fucking gimmicky. The rooms are like
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: super small there's barely any accommodations. They don't even have
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: like a key rig in there to make your fucking coffee.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: Like it's like it's like the most downgraded version of
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: a motel six I've ever seen. Like I wouldn't I
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: would literally if I stayed at a motel six and
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: it was like the room I got at the Stanley,
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: I would fucking ask for my money back. It was
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: so no air conditioning, nothing, It was the bare minimum.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: And they're charging people like one of the rooms was
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: like twelve hundred dollars a night to stay in this room.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: And they are making so much money off the fact that,
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: like Stephen King stayed there and he wrote The Shining
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: I know, but.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 3: I mean I need to ask you then, so why
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 3: did you? Why did you stay there?
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: It was on my bucket list. I was like there.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I have to stay there. It's
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: also the hotel. This Stanley Hotel is where they filmed
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: Dumb and Dumber. I don't know if you are you
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: familiar with Okay, Oh yes, you know when he's in
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: the bar and he turns around and he's like, we
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: landed on the moon. Okay, So the bar is still
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: set up exactly like dumb and Dumber. They still have
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: the thing on the wall that says we landed on
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: the moon and shit. So I mean, like it was
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: on my bucket list. I was like, Oh, it'll be awesome.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: We stayed the weekend before Halloween, and it was just like, Oh,
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: this is gonna be amazing. It's in the Rocky Mountains,
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be great. The shittiest hotel I've ever They
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: don't even have room service. They don't even have a
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: way to get fucking food in there, and so it's
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: just like some of this stuff. Sure, I think at
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: some point haunted stuff has happened, but they've just made
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: it so che easy and gimmicky and so expensive, and
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: it's just like a racket at this point.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 3: And especially when you're giving off the vibes of the
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: shining and dumbing Dummer, like you can't get much more up.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: That's it, right, because like I guess Jim Carrey while
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: they were filming it, they he stayed there, and like
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: the Jim Carrey room is like eight hundred dollars a
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: night or something like that, you know, and he said
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: he saw some shit and freaked out and he left
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: in the middle of the night. I wish something like
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: that would have happened to me. It would have made
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: my money, you know, worth it. But no, it was
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: just it was horrible. And yeah, so I think like
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: some stuff sure can be paranormal. I think other stuff
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: is just like a way to drain money from people's pocketbooks.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: But I really should come on your podcast sometime in
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: the future and tell you about all this crazy stuff
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: I've done. And actually I grew up in a haunted
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: how I actually think I it was maybe the first
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: time I went on the Let's Get Freaky podcast. I
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: can't remember, but I'll have to tell you about it
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: sometime because that was That's a whole episode in it
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: of itself. I believe in paranormal stuff. I just think
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: it happens when nobody's looking like it's not gonna happen
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  Speaker 1: at this Stanley hotel. It's gonna happen like in your
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: grandma's house.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Quickly, I want to just say, anyone slammers
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: the movie doing dumb it can go and fuck themselves
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: because it's hilarious and the best part on it is
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 3: when he kills a fucking owl.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I agree. I think the whole scene
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: leading up to it is the funniest part of the
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: movie when they're like getting the suits and like doing
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: the hair and like getting pedicures, and then they show
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: up to the fucking thing. I don't know. I love
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: that movie and that was all. Oh, I'm sure, but
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, I love Jim Carrey, so that was part
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: of the reason why I wanted to go to that
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: stupid fucking hotel. It is just because of all the shit,
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: you know. But for those who have never heard your podcast,
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: would you like to let them know where they can
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: find it?
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 3: Yes, So we're on all of the usual podcast platforms, Spotify,
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 3: Apple Music, all of that. They're the main two, really, aren't.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 3: They follows on Instagram. It's literally just at the Spooky
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: Shed podcast. There's a link in a bio there you
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: will find a video for our paranormal investigation that we've
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 3: done of kirkleveland Woods. It is called there's links there
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 3: for all the other socials. We don't use them, so
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: to no point following them, But if you want to.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: Go for it, do you have YouTube or anything?
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 3: We have a YouTube channel for well, what is going
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 3: to be more paranormal investigations. Obviously there's only the one
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 3: there at the minute, but there is a huge show
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: channel left for that.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. That'll be cool because like eventually you'll have
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: like a couple of videos to put out there. I mean,
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: it doesn't happen overnight, that's for fucking sure.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 3: Oh exactly.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, shit takes time and money and you
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: know resources, it's not like exactly that's That's the thing
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: I hate too, is because if I had the money
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: in the time, i'd fucking go stay at a haunted
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: hotel every weekend. Sure, but it's like we have lives,
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: you know that you can't just you know, put stuff
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: out every week of staying at on in place.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: But some people managed to put them jummy Lookie busts.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: Right or like ghost Adventures or some shit like that.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: They got like a huge budget behind them. But thanks
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: so much for joining me. I had a really good time.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: I think, you know, it'd be cool to get on
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: your podcast at some point in the future and we
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: can just talk about all kinds of stuff. But thanks
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: for coming on.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 3: No problem, no problem. Not really enjoyed it.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and tell Billy, I said, what the fuck's up.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: And next time he's got to be on the show
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: so I can meet him exactly.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 3: I'll tell him he's a dick.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, tell him for me that he's a cunt salad.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 3: That's a new one. I'm going to use that.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: Okay, good, But thanks so much. I had a great time,
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: and thanks to all the listeners out there. We will
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: catch you on the next one.