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Palestine, Communism Against Jews and Christians (Replay) · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
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defending biblical Christianity, no topic, off limits.
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And now, here's your host, David Firazzo.
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Hello friends, what a week it's been and I love the people I get to talk to.
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So on Monday, on World View Matters right here, we talked with Tony Garoule, vice president
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of radicaltruth.net, great website, a lot of great resources and they are very relevant
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to our times when we talk about the Middle East and Israel and Palestine.
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We're going to talk about that today.
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So Tony, welcome back to the show, brother, let's do another one.
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Thanks Dave, great to be back with you in your audience.
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Yeah, let's kick it off.
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We're going to talk about Palestine, where that word came from.
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And what the debate is all about, but let's go to an article on your website.
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This one is kind of amazing.
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Everyone saw, well not everyone, people that paid attention to the news saw our own state
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capital, Washington DC, our nation's capital, be overwhelmed by protesters.
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And that was like this call for whatever violence or a day of protest, Hamas called it or
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whoever called it.
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They tried to do that.
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But and by the way, they were not called insurrectionists.
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And anyway, we'll let that go for now.
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The headline, Rashida Thalib whips up mob with lies about bombed Gaza hospital, incites
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capital insurrection.
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So she is a member of Congress in our government.
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She is pro Hamas and she doesn't hide it.
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These, and we'll talk about the squad a little later, but she just seemed to whip up these
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people into a frenzy.
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So Tony, tell us why this matters because it's in our own country.
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And what exactly are these people supporting?
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Well, Dave, when the presentation came out, probably about four years ago, the Muslim
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Brotherhood, origin identity and agenda, I mentioned that not only is Rashida Thalib
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a shill for the Muslim Brotherhood, but the rest of the squad members are as well.
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And if you don't know about the Muslim Brotherhood, well, that's not surprising because
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they don't make the nightly news.
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Why?
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Because they aren't carrying guns like the jihadists out there.
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However, it's important to know that the Muslim Brotherhood and the Islamist groups have
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the same end goal as the jihadists.
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And that is to have the world under Islamic law.
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And again, if you look to Europe or Canada, which are all ahead of us as far as Islamization,
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you can see the way that we're headed.
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And that's what we came out with not only the Muslim Brotherhood presentation, but lights
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out when Islam rules America as well.
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And you will see, right now, it's just another, you know, another hot topic of news stories
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because of what's happening over there, that you're seeing the Islamists pushing for
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support of Hamas, which is a terrorist organization.
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Hamas is the Palestinian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood.
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The Muslim Brotherhood was created in 1928 by Hassan Al-Bana in Egypt.
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And they have the same end goal as the jihadists.
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And as you can see, the physical fighting out there, I mean, yes, Islamists do participate
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in physical fighting as well.
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It's just not their primary goal, like it is of the jihadists themselves, when they think
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of ISIS, Nalqaeda, Bukahoram, etc.
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But they all have the same end goal as the Muslim Brotherhood.
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And if you study the Muslim Brotherhood, you'll know why Islamists are doing what they're
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doing.
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It's no surprise whatsoever.
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There's an interesting parallel.
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You mentioned the Muslim Brotherhood.
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And I think Monday, when we talked, we mentioned that they're wearing suits.
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They're carrying briefcases.
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They have jobs.
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They're in our government because they're not dressed in the radical gear with the, you
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know, turbans on or the facial coverings and with all the weaponry and the vests and
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all that.
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No, they have infiltrated.
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And that is one of the actual parts of the agenda, isn't it, Tony?
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They infiltrate, I don't know if that's the right word, whether they don't assimilate.
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They infiltrate other societies.
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Go ahead.
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Yeah.
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Or you probably heard the term stealth invasion, a very important book written by Leo Holman,
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which I think in the last six months was banned on Amazon.
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And I was thinking, maybe I need to get a hold of him and do a show called, Self-Invasion
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Equals Lights Out, because pretty much, you know, he talks about the invasion.
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And I'm talking about, you know, that as well, but also what's happening around that and
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what the end goal is.
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But yeah, I mean, that is the goal.
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And yes, there is infiltration of the US government's been happening for years.
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And Dave, before three years ago, a lot of people were concerned about Islamization.
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But no surprise, less people are concerned now because in the last three years, all of
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a sudden now they're, they're concerned about communism coming to America, which we've
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done episodes on that too.
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We have done episodes on BLM and the red, green revolutions and all that.
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I mean, there's been, there's a history of communists working with Islamists.
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The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
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If they both hate America, they will work together for the overthrow of America from within.
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However, their own ideologies cannot, at the end, coexist.
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Because how do we know that?
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In communist China, Muslims are being persecuted in addition to Christians being persecuted.
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And Islamic countries, you're not in power if you're not a Muslim.
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So communism and Islamism are not compatible.
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But again, they're working together in the meantime to destroy America.
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Thank you for mentioning BLM, which is the Black Lives Matter Global Network or Global
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Foundation Network.
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It's a global movement, Marxist-driven.
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And they did side with Hamas.
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They put out a statement.
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I think they were doing one of the pro-Palestinian parades or not parades protests.
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Yeah, parades.
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They're walking down the streets with their flags, anyway, call it what you will.
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Let's talk Tony Gurley about Palestine.
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Where does that word come from?
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We are people of the Bible.
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It's mentioned in the Bible, briefly I think in Isaiah, and we know the Philistines are
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mentioned a lot in the Old Testament.
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So take us back and why this confusion about where is Palestine?
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Yeah.
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And this is why it's so important, Dave, that people watch the episode or listen to the
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podcast of our show called Israel or Palestine, which is it?
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Because when you watch or listen to that, you're going to get all the historical information,
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which puts all the pieces together and will allow you right away to realize what's actually
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happening and which side you should be supporting here.
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Because in the late 1800s, and even the early 1900s, Israel slash Palestine was part of
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the Ottoman Empire.
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And it wasn't a large amount of people who lived there.
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I mean, back then, you're talking about one 30th of the population in that area today.
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It was very small amount of people compared to present.
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And it used to be kind of called, oh, that land south of Syria, or oh, southern Syria,
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or people referred to it as in different ways.
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But it was in 1924, is when the Ottoman Empire fell.
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And it was around that time you hear about, you can look up the history as far as the
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British and that's basically it was given from the Ottoman Empire to the League of Nations.
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The League of Nations said, OK, British, you can kind of oversee what's going on there
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kind of thing.
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So it wasn't stolen from anybody.
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The Ottoman Empire had fallen.
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Now, the thing is, is that you see maps today of the supposed areas of Palestinian territory
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that was lost over the years and so on, but that term itself, we have to talk about
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where did that come from.
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Now there's a Palestine post newspaper, and this is this you guys might have an image
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to show, but this is the state of Israel is born and people say, look, look, Israel was
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just this invented place.
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It used to be Palestine, it was stolen, and now it's called Israel.
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And you'll see the maps showing the Palestinian loss of land from 1946 to 2010.
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Looking like the Palestinians had all this territory, and now they have very little, and you
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have to look at the Palestinian territories, you know, Gaza, West Bank, and it's a little
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bit of green now.
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The thing is, is that if we, we need to incorporate the religious aspect of this, because this is
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exactly what Muslims are doing today.
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Muslims are doing what they're doing because of their Islamic worldview.
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Now the Quran is being the main book in Islam.
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How many times does the Quran mention Palestine?
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It's a big fat zero.
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How many times does the Quran mention Palestinians?
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Oh, that would be zero as well.
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Now, don't you think it would have been important for a law to make sure that, you know, those
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terms were in the Quran, but the thing is, is that they weren't even important at that
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time.
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And here's the thing, is that prior to the AD 130s, these territories were just known
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as Judea in Galilee, as they're mentioned in the Bible.
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That's what the Romans called these areas, Judea in Galilee.
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Now it was around 130 AD, Anodominus Latinfer in the year of our Lord, around 130, after
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a Jewish revolt, the Roman emperor Hadrian called this territory, Palestine, out of spite
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for the Jews.
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Now, why would that be a spite for the Jews?
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And why would he call it that?
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Because if you read the Old Testament, the Israelites were fighting the Philistines over
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and over again.
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Yep.
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So out of spite for the Jews, he called it Palestine.
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That's where it began.
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And in the early 20th century, the term Palestinian referred to Jews and anyone who was born and
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lived in that area, they were all Palestinians.
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The Jews actually said, hey, we're Palestinians.
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Why?
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Because that was the territory that was theirs back in history, right?
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And you read the Old Testament, God promised them, and we're going to get into that.
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God promised the Jews way more than we see modern Israel is today.
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But the thing is, is that around the time of the Muslim Brotherhood and the creation
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of that, one of Hassan Al-Bana, who was the creator and founder of the Muslim Brotherhood,
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one of his disciples was Hajj Amin Al Hussaini.
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He was a Muslim Nazi and the grand moofty of Jerusalem.
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He was also the uncle of Yasser Erafat.
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So Al Hussaini was the father of Palestinian nationalism.
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And we have a number of documentaries available on our video channels giving you actual video
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footage of Al Hussaini, him meeting with Hitler and the fact that he wanted to start create
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gas chambers in the Middle East to take care of the Jews himself.
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So many Islamists, many Muslims throughout the world hate Jews just as much as Hitler
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did, if not more, because Islamic Jew hatred began with Muhammad himself.
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We talked about some of that history in the last episode.
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Now, now, if I tell you, Dave, that Palestine, that term and the term Palestinians are simply
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propaganda terms that are used to de-legitimateize the nation of Israel, you and maybe other people
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say, oh, well, that's just your opinion.
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Now, Dave, this is this is what I want to share with all your listeners.
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Okay.
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And I want to let them know about the here Mussein who lived from 1936 to 1979.
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He was a military commander of the Palestine liberation organization.
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And while you keep that picture there, let me give you his exact quotes that he gave
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in the duck in an interview in 1977 in the Dutch newspaper, Trial.
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He said, we are all part of one people, the Arab nation, we are one people.
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Just for political reasons, we carefully underwrite our Palestinian identity because it is
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of national interest for the Arabs to advocate the existence of Palestinians to balance Zionism.
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The Palestinian people does not exist.
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The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against
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the state of Israel for our Arab unity.
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Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian
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people since Arab national interest demand that we posit the existence of a distinct Palestinian
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people to oppose Zionism.
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But last but not least, Palestinian identity only exists for tactical purposes.
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The establishment of a Palestinian state is a new tool to continue the fight against Israel
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and for Arab unity.
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That's it.
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New tool.
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What year did he say that?
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The 30s?
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1977.
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Oh, 77.
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Okay.
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I thought it went back further than that.
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But I do want to go back further, Tony, because I'm reading something online here over at
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gotquestions.org, and they say that the Israel Philharmonic Orchestra was originally called
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the Palestine Symphony Orchestra.
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And also, as you mentioned, the name for the Jerusalem Post used to be the Palestine Post.
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And these were in the 1930s, they're founded in the 1930s, but now they change.
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So it's very interesting that as you said, a lot of the Jews apparently said, yeah,
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we're in Palestine and we're Palestinians.
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And gosh, I was on the 100 years ago, Dave, people need to study more than 50 or 100 years ago.
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It doesn't matter if you're talking about climate change or if you're talking about the
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Palestinians, right?
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What was the history before 50 to 100 years ago?
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Yes.
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That using the term Palestinian to refer to Muslims is less than 100 years old.
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That's a fact, because as he said, in 1977, the Muslim brotherhood was created in 1928.
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I can't be any older than that, because Ahadjami Nahusani was the disciple of Hassan Al-Bana,
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the creator of the Muslim brotherhood.
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So when you watch these news stories, again, you know, right away, why the Islamists,
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communists, and socialists, by the way, the goal of socialism is communism, that's what
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Vladimir Lenin said himself.
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The communists and Islamists are working together and it's a game of divide and conquer,
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just like black versus white, just like Christians versus Muslims and everything else.
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But the thing is, is that the Muslims versus anybody, specifically the people of the book,
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Jews and Christians, started according to tradition with Muhammad himself 1400 years ago.
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They are working to take out the West, meaning the Christianized West, North America, specifically
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the United States, because Canada kind of, you know, with Emperor Trudeau and the government
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there.
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But I'll tell you, there's some things that are coming across our border too.
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Let's go back to another article just briefly on your website, what happened a few weeks
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ago, the, well, I'm not talking about October 7th, which was horrific and we've talked
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quite a bit about that on this show.
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But days after that, when Israel was doing their counter attack, they were shooting back
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some rockets, Hamas was from Gaza and they, apparently the story is and what we've seen
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from graphs and videos trying to figure this out, one of their own missiles or rockets
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hit the hospital.
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It wasn't an Israeli air strike from what we understand.
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Now that wasn't put out in the media right away, the media said, oh, Israel hit a hospital.
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But there's an article on your site that says the squad or squad member posts fake photo
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of hundreds of dead Palestinian kids.
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This is at radicaltruth.net and it was a lie.
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It was a lie.
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Now that doesn't, I mean, in Islam, you get a badge of honor for lying, right?
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It's not like Christianity where thou shalt not bear false witness.
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And this is propaganda, Tony, what you were talking about, that's, that's what wins
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revolutions oftentimes aside from the military or those conquests, propaganda kind of gets
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the ground ready.
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So tell us a little bit about this.
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It's an article from your website and that you mentioned the squad.
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You've talked a lot about them and it's their dangerous and they spew hatred.
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Well, Dave, as far as the hospital, it wasn't a hospital.
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It was the parking lot, the parking lot, and the follow up news.
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Two stories reveal that.
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So anyone who's trying to stir up anything saying that a hospital was hit is false, is
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they're lying.
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Or maybe they just don't know their facts, right?
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So they need to study.
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Now as far as the children that you talked about, those pictures were from, I think like
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10 years ago, they were from when Assad and all that was in the news.
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So they're basically just recycling pictures, trying to stir people up.
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But the thing is, is that at the end of the day, lies are not defensible and the truth
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is on our side.
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So people just need to be educated.
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You have, you have Muslims throughout the world leaving Islam because they're finding
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out about what Islam really teaches.
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They're finding about what the life of Muhammad was actually like.
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They're realizing that there is no evidence for a law, especially philosophically, because
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it falls apart.
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People are learning the good news about Jesus Christ.
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And Muslims throughout the world are repenting and putting their trust in him.
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And most Muslims make great Christians.
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So as much as people want to make you think that there's a political solution to all this,
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there isn't.
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This is a spiritual battle that's going on.
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And the gospel of Jesus Christ is what all people need to hear.
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And the reason why we're, it's so important, especially when it comes to Islam, not that
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all non-Christians need the gospel.
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But when it comes to Muslims, you're talking 1.6 billion people throughout the world.
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It's the fastest-growing false religion in the world.
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It's the biggest religion after Christianity itself.
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So we need to continue to share the gospel with people.
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And we need to let them know what the Bible actually says about all this, because we have
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another map picture.
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And I want to just want to show people the map with all the green, because this lets
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people understand how small Israel is and how small this little piece of land it.
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Where is Israel?
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You can't even hardly see it.
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Dave, all these green countries are Islamic countries.
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And Israel is the small, you can't hardly see it on the map, because it's so small.
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People need to understand this is not about land.
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Any of these green Islamic countries could give the Palestinians, quote, unquote, 50 times
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the amount of land they have in Israel and say, come live here.
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It's not about land, it's about the people.
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Islamic Jew hatred, they want to wipe out the people.
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And here's the thing is that we have the biblical accounts of the territory that God promised
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to Abraham and his descendants.
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And I want to give people some biblical verses so they understand that the territory, modern
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day Israel slash Palestine, is much smaller than what God promised to the Jews.
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If you read Exodus 23 verses 31 through 33, it says, I will set your border from the
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red sea to the sea of the Philistines and from the wilderness to the Euphrates, for I will
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give the inhabitants of the land into your hands and you shall drive them out before you.
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You shall make no covenant with them and their gods.
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They shall not dwell in your land unless they make you sin against me.
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For if you serve their gods, it will surely be a snare to you.
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And Exodus 33, 1 through 2, the Lord says to Moses, to depart from here, you and your
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people who have been brought out of the land of Egypt to land which I swore to Abraham,
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Isaac and Jacob, saying to your offspring, I will give it.
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Then I will send an angel before you and I will drive out the Canaanites, the Amorites,
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the Hittites, the Parasites, the Hivites and the Jebusites.
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And then in Joshua 1, 4, from the wilderness and this Lebanon as far as the Great River,
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the River Euphrates, all the land of the Hittites to the great sea toward the going down
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to the sun shall be your territory.
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Now Dave, we have a map here of the Middle East and because radical truth is based in the
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great state of Texas, I have Texas on this map to give you an idea of how big Texas is
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compared to the Middle East there.
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Now think about this folks.
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The land that God promised the Jews does not only include all of modern day Israel.
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It also includes the West Bank, Gaza, some of Egypt, some of Syria, all of Jordan, some
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of Saudi Arabia and some of Iraq.
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Those are the true areas that should belong to the Jews according to the Bible itself.
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So guess what?
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If anyone should be complaining about land right now, who should be complaining?
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Well, the Jewish people, that's right, Israel, exactly.
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I saw a meme.
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I'm not sure if it was the Babylon B or not.
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I saw a meme with that other map with how tiny Israel is the size of New Jersey, but
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on the map it was just a speck and all the other nations, Muslim nations around it.
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And it says, boy, if their Israel is accused of being colonizers, they've done a pretty
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bad job of taking over land and colonizing a couple of more minutes with, go ahead.
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Speaking of that Dave, here's something to think about, Iran and Saudi Arabia, which
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have the most strict Islamic law in the world are under full sharia.
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They were never colonized and look at life there.
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They were never Western, they were never Westernized quote unquote because of colonization.
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Now here's the thing too, around, I'm trying to think of how many years, around the beginning
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of the eight century, the Middle East was about 95% Christian, the entire thing.
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Today it's less than 6%.
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So what caused that?
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Islam caused that.
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But more specifically, Islam according to Muhammad, not Islam according to your Muslim
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neighbor who was born in America and whenever one to live under Sharia law.
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Yeah.
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Thank you for reiterating that point, Islam according to Muhammad briefly, Tony, we just
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have a few more minutes and we're going to have to talk about this again in a future
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show, but immigration, we've got open borders in America.
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And it's not just women and children coming across the board, I see a lot of pictures of
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a lot of adult men, males in their 20s and 30s.
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That's the bulk of the people coming across the board.
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But let's go back to an article that just came up recently.
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It says Jamal Brown, he's a representative in DC Democrat, Jamal Bowman, Jamal Bowman
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and other leftists are calling on the US to take in Palestinian refugees from Gaza.
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Tony, what could go wrong?
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Your thoughts on some of the problems we have here with not only with our immigration,
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the southern border, but what they're doing, who they are funding and sending money to.
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But yeah, sure, we'll take them, right?
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To know the end goal of this, all you need to do is watch lights out when Islam rules
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America, because you'll see the news stories that came out in Europe many years ago.
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Islamization of Europe has been taking place for a long time.
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But also Dave, what's really hurt Europe and allowed these
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lamization to take place, regardless of who's coming in, is the fact that Europe has lost its Christianity.
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And in America, here's the thing I have this right here to my side.
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The Constitution and Bill of Rights, whether people want to believe it or not,
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or whether they agree with it or not, these aren't law, these aren't rights that are given by man.
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These are God-given rights that are recognized by the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
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And these are founded and based on the Bible.
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But what are people doing?
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They're attacking the Bible.
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They're attacking the name of Christ.
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They want the Ten Commandments removed off display.
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They want people want to reject objective morality, which comes from God.
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They want to remove all Christianity.
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And what does that do? That leaves the Constitution and Bill of Rights firmly planted in mid-air.
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And it leaves a vacuum.
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And if you leave a vacuum, what is the book that will come in and become the base of that Constitution and Bill of Rights?
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And that is the Quran from Islamic perspective.
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Or maybe mine comp from a communist perspective, right?
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And if communism or Islam became the base of the Constitution and Bill of Rights,
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the Constitution and Bill of Rights would change.
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Now, people need to realize that all that we're seeing around us is a spiritual battle.
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And the gospel is the ultimate solution to that.
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Amen, amen, brother.
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I think we couldn't end it on a more powerful note because the gospel is the power of God.
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The word is alive and active, sharper than a double-edged sword.
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And our mission doesn't change, no matter what's going on in the country.
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But man, things are happening prophetically.
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I mean, things that we've never seen before.
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And potentially overwhelming, but they're exciting times.
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If you're a Christian who is saved, a converted believer, we know what we have to look forward to.
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But if we love others, we will tell them the truth.
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And that's why I appreciate you, brother, radical truth.
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Tony, we will do this again, so much more to talk about.
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But I encourage people to go and check out some of those episodes that Tony mentioned.
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Brother, good to see you and talk to you again.
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God bless you.
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Thanks so much, David, too.
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All right, thank you.
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All right, friends, let me share what's going on next week.
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It's Pastor's Week here on World View Matters.
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We're starting in Australia.
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And I've got a brother, Dean Dwyer.
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He's a pastor there in Australia.
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You can read some of his work at harbingersdaily.com.
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He will be with us also Joe Shimmel from Southern California.
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Dr. Andy Woods will be back with us.
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He's from Texas and from Illinois, Pastor John Pennell.
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We're going to do part two of free masonry and the lodge and talk about that.
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Some of the symbols and what they mean, what they stand for, some of the beliefs.
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And so we'll talk more about that.
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Guys, thank you again for tuning in and for sharing and supporting the podcast, the show.
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God bless you and as always, keep speaking the truth about things that matter.