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Chuck & Buck 11-18 Hour 4: Rick Neuheisel, The Ol' Judge and one last thing! · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 2: Hello, sir, Hey, how are you guys doing today?
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Speaker 1: We're doing great. How about yourself?
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Speaker 2: I got no bad news. I woke up this morning
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Speaker 2: in Birmingham, Alabama, and flew back to New York in
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Speaker 2: time to get the last portion of my radio show done,
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Speaker 2: and now here I am with you.
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Speaker 1: Okay. I'm curious, as it's a Husky UCLA week. Much
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Speaker 1: is your son bugging you for information about the Huskies?
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Speaker 1: And how much is Jedfish bugging you for information about UCLA? Interesting?
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Speaker 2: I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you, right.
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Speaker 2: You know what I find as I get older, no
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Speaker 2: one really wants my information. I've been relegated to that
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Speaker 2: role as a father and just stay out of the way. Dad,
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Speaker 2: I got this. So I'm anxious for the game. I
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Speaker 2: think the quarterback is going to be healthy. He was unavailable,
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Speaker 2: Miko Iamaliavo was unavailable against Ohio State, and we know
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Speaker 2: what they do to opponent offenses, especially if you're down
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Speaker 2: a couple of guys. So I'm anxious to see UCLA
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Speaker 2: play better. But the way Washington was clicking last week,
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Speaker 2: it'll be uh, it'll be a tough shore for their defense.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, they were, they were clicking, and then they have
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Speaker 4: some injuries. And yet I am curious just as far
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Speaker 4: as UCLA goes, what is it that the Huskies need
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Speaker 4: to worry about the most.
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Speaker 2: I think, you know, the player is Miko i Amaliaba,
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Speaker 2: and when his legs get involved, then they become dangerous.
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Speaker 2: But getting to that portion of their offenses, it's been difficult.
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Speaker 2: Early in the season. The defense was doing really, really well.
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Speaker 2: The last couple of times out times out, they they've struggled.
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Speaker 2: They couldn't stop Nebraska, who had kind of a fleet
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Speaker 2: of foot quarterback, a freshman that was playing that particular
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Speaker 2: day TJ Latif, and I don't know that they'll be
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Speaker 2: able to corral Demon Williams given what we've seen of
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Speaker 2: him and his ability to make plays with his legs.
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Speaker 1: The Bruins saw the number one ranked team in the
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Speaker 1: country up close and personal last week. Are the defending
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Speaker 1: national champs even better this year than they were last season?
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Speaker 2: You know, I don't know that I see vulnerability right now.
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Speaker 2: No one's been able, no one's been able to exploit it.
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Speaker 2: But I don't know that they can just move you
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Speaker 2: off the ball as an offensive line. I think they're
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Speaker 2: you know what we saw with Texas A and M
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Speaker 2: coming from behind in that game against South Carolina this week,
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Speaker 2: what we saw Indiana coming from behind against Penn State
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Speaker 2: a week ago. Those are the three undefeated teams. Ohio
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Speaker 2: State really hasn't been challenged like that. Their freshman quarterback
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Speaker 2: hasn't been challenged like that, needing to make a comeback.
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Speaker 2: You know, he's been pretty comfortable the entire year, I think,
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Speaker 2: And we'll wait and see what happens when they play
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Speaker 2: against Michigan, But I think that's the disadvantage going into
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Speaker 2: the College Football Playoff Tournament. Because you need to know
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Speaker 2: that you can do that, and having not had that experience,
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Speaker 2: I think they're vulnerable. I would not bet them as
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Speaker 2: the favorite to win this whole thing. Take the house,
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Speaker 2: I'd take the house, I take the field, Take the field.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
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Speaker 4: Well, basically at that point in the season where I
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Speaker 4: mean kind of getting down to the nitty grit and
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Speaker 4: you'll have some big time, you know, rivalry games coming up.
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Speaker 4: I mean, are you expecting chaos or would you? Does
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Speaker 4: it feel like this season is more destined for kind
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Speaker 4: of the chalk what we're seeing right now. Let's just
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Speaker 4: say you know that there's not going to be a
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Speaker 4: ton of upheaval. As far as the College Playoff is going, well.
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Speaker 2: I think it's really fascinating in the SEC because there
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Speaker 2: are still six teams that can finish with two losses
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Speaker 2: or better, and is there room for all six? Therein
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Speaker 2: lies the problem in the Big twelve. Is there another
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Speaker 2: team that's going to get in with Texas Tech or
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Speaker 2: derailed Texas Tech in the championship game? And if in
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Speaker 2: fact that happens, does that take two teams and does
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Speaker 2: that kick out another SEC team? So those are all
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Speaker 2: interesting things. It looks like Notre Dame has secured their spot.
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Speaker 2: They've got Syracuse left at home, which is going to
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Speaker 2: be a wildly overmatched team, and then they travel to
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Speaker 2: the West Coast to play Stanford. Sanford could give them
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Speaker 2: a fight. But the way Notre Dame's playing right now
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Speaker 2: and the way they negotiated this deal in the college
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Speaker 2: football playoffs, I mean, they're sitting there as still six
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Speaker 2: spots ahead of Miami. We'll wait and see what happens tonight.
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Speaker 2: But Miami beat them, and I'm just sitting there. If
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Speaker 2: I'm Miami, I got to be going crazy. I mean,
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Speaker 2: Miami beat North Carolina State this week the same way
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Speaker 2: that Notre Dame did. Why are they so far behind them?
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Speaker 2: And if you're talking about, you know, penalties that should
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Speaker 2: have been called, you know Texas A and m beating
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Speaker 2: Notre Dame, they could say, hey, there was a holding
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Speaker 2: call that was blatantly missed. You could point out Miami's
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Speaker 2: lost SMU. There was a a necessary roughness penalty where
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Speaker 2: the guy tried to hold hold up the quarterback. He
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Speaker 2: just didn't near the whistle and they called it on
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Speaker 2: him to give the SMU a chance for the game
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Speaker 2: time field goal, So it's it's just wildly advantageous for
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Speaker 2: the Irish right now.
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Speaker 1: Rick new isil is with it. Certainly. Oklahoma shipped things
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Speaker 1: up last week with their win over Alabama. Both of
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Speaker 1: those teams should make it into the College Football Playoff rankings,
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Speaker 1: which will be revealed the latest little later on tonight.
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Speaker 1: I'm curious, though the Koogs have a game at James Madison,
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Speaker 1: they could have an effect on keeping a team here
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Speaker 1: out of the NCAA tournament. Would the committee really consider
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Speaker 1: James Madison as that twelfth and final team or are
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Speaker 1: they fighting a hopeless battle there?
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Speaker 2: Well, given the kind of carnage that were watching in
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Speaker 2: the American and the fact that San Diego State went
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Speaker 2: out and got beat at Hawaii, we're sitting here, I mean,
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Speaker 2: Navy's sitting at eight and two, tou Lane's at eight
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Speaker 2: and two, Tulane has the signature went over Duke. North
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Speaker 2: Texas is at nine and one. With a win over Navy,
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Speaker 2: North Texas as a twelve and one American Conference champion
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Speaker 2: would stay. It would be ahead of James Madison, but
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Speaker 2: the projections are that North Texas won't get there, which
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Speaker 2: is why JMU is getting all this love. The one
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Speaker 2: loss that James Madison had was to Louisville, which was
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Speaker 2: a pretty good team. They only lost by a couple
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Speaker 2: of touchdowns. So Bob Chesney, who's being rivered for some
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Speaker 2: jobs out there and included amongst his UCLA, has done
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Speaker 2: a nice job with JMU. And if you're trying to
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Speaker 2: capture a little of that signetti magic, why wouldn't you
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Speaker 2: go back there and see if you can pluck another
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Speaker 2: one of those guys?
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Speaker 1: Why not?
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Speaker 4: Un Yeah, this is that year or that week that
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Speaker 4: typically happens, and it's one that's kind of argued about.
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Speaker 4: It seems like every single year, and understandably so. Where
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Speaker 4: the SEC, I mean, like the few top teams in
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Speaker 4: the SEC, Alabama's playing Eastern Illinois, George's playing Charlotte, and
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Speaker 4: Texas A and M's planning Sanford. I mean, is this
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Speaker 4: a thing if we were to fast forward a week
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Speaker 4: from now, We'll talk to you next week as well,
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Speaker 4: but that you could see the committee punishing these.
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Speaker 1: Guys for doing that.
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Speaker 4: If all of a sudden they stand pat and win
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Speaker 4: by forty, but another team that's playing somebody of their
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Speaker 4: caliber wins, they could end up losing a spot in
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Speaker 4: this thing.
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Speaker 2: From your lips to God's ears, Bucky. But no, they're
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Speaker 2: not going to punish him. This was a genius move
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Speaker 2: years ago by Mike Slive and I pointed it out
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Speaker 2: years ago on the PAC twelve network, and no one
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Speaker 2: took heed. I mean, it's just an absolute gamesmanship by
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Speaker 2: moving one of your ear by games, one of those
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Speaker 2: you know, easy games. And remember, the SEC, at least
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Speaker 2: this season is still only playing eight conference games. So
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Speaker 2: to put this right in the in the penultimate weekend
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Speaker 2: of the season and to say that that's a game
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Speaker 2: while everybody else is beating each other's brains out in
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Speaker 2: all these conference races, you can understand.
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Speaker 1: How they went.
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Speaker 2: Right to the top of the charts in the CFP.
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Speaker 2: It was brilliantly done and it was the Mike's Live
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Speaker 2: idea and they still do it. And so we've got
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Speaker 2: Charlotte at Georgia, We've got Mercer at Auburn, Eastern Illinois
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Speaker 2: at Alabama. I call these the reindeer games, Coastal Carolina
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Speaker 2: at South Carolina, and Western Kentucky at LSU. Last week
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Speaker 2: it was Tennessee Tech at Kentucky. So yeah, make of
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Speaker 2: it what you will, but it is Stamford at Texas
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Speaker 2: A and M a thriller this week. That will make
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Speaker 2: five teams that A and M has played this year
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Speaker 2: who no longer have their head coach that started to
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Speaker 2: see this.
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Speaker 1: Wow, coach killer. Why the reindeer games? Am I not
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Speaker 1: catching onto something here? Why do you call them the
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Speaker 1: rain I'm just just.
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Speaker 2: The reindeer games just because they're just ridiculous games. Okay,
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Speaker 2: you know they shouldn't be there. I mean, but it's
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Speaker 2: genius scheduling, and it's because of the damage of a
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Speaker 2: late loss as compared to an early loss. Just put
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Speaker 2: these in there at the end and let everybody else
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Speaker 2: lose and the committee just doesn't catch on.
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Speaker 1: Alabama facing the Island of Misfit Toys Tech this weekend.
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Speaker 1: There you go, great program. George's only favored over Charlotte
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Speaker 1: by forty five? Is that all.
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Speaker 2: Charlie in the box playing quarterback in that one?
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Speaker 1: I think he's at Island of Misfit Toys A and
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Speaker 1: M if I'm not mistaken. Rick new Isle is with
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Speaker 1: US our College Football Insider. Of course, he does the
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Speaker 1: coaching credentials former UDUB head coach as we all know,
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Speaker 1: and a segment with us every week is brought to
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Speaker 1: you by Taco Time. All right, let's get to some
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Speaker 1: of these more intriguing games this weekend, and Big ten
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Speaker 1: might own the most intriguing one with the Oregon hosting USC.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it feels like Lincoln Riley has been skewed
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Speaker 1: by them by critics and understandably so ever since he
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Speaker 1: stepped foot on campus at USA. But don't look now,
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Speaker 1: he's actually got them in position to maybe make the tournament.
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Speaker 1: But he's going to need a win at Oregon. Can
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Speaker 1: he get that done?
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Speaker 2: This is going to be a great contest because they
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Speaker 2: have played gritty this year. You got to give Lincoln
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Speaker 2: credit for what they've done to kind of make themselves
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Speaker 2: a little bit more physical from a standpoint of running
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Speaker 2: the football. They've won a couple of, you know, basic
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Speaker 2: ground and pound type of games against both Michigan and
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Speaker 2: last week against Iowa. And when you win those kind
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Speaker 2: of games, you put yourself in position to play for
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Speaker 2: big prizes. And that's exactly what will take place in Eugene.
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Speaker 2: And give the Ducks credit to they went to Kinnick
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Speaker 2: Stadium and beat Iowa in Iowa weather and basically held
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Speaker 2: served and did so again a last week against Minnesota
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Speaker 2: on a Friday night. So this is going to be
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Speaker 2: a great game. I think Oregon has the advantage. I
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Speaker 2: think Oregon's probably a little bit more talented, except at
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Speaker 2: the wide receiver position. But if Dante More plays like
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Speaker 2: he did against Minnesota, I'm gonna take the Ducks.
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Speaker 1: And of course that's on CBS on CBS. Okay, all right,
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Speaker 1: I got the big one there. All right, how's this
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Speaker 1: ACC going to shake out? And will Georgia Tech versus
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Speaker 1: Pitt have a say in that? Big time?
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Speaker 2: Pitt gets to write their own story here at the end. Now,
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Speaker 2: they laid an egg against Notre Dame last week, but
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Speaker 2: if they can beat Georgia Tech, and Georgia Tech's defense
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Speaker 2: is given up massive chunks of yardage. So if this
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Speaker 2: Mason Hinchel, that freshman quarterback, can have a day again
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Speaker 2: and they can beat Georgia Tech at Georgia Tech, then
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Speaker 2: they'll get to play Miami the next week to get
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Speaker 2: a chance to be in the SEC excuse me, ACC Championship.
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Speaker 2: Virginia has a clear path. They just have Virginia Tech.
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Speaker 2: They get this week off. They get Virginia Tech next week.
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Speaker 2: But they've struggled against Virginia Tech over the a long time.
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Speaker 2: And you know who's sneaking around the chicken coop is SMU.
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Speaker 2: SMU only has one loss. They get Louisville at home
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Speaker 2: this week. Louisville lost again last week to Clemson, so
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Speaker 2: they're out. But if they knock off Louisville, then they're
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Speaker 2: going to go to cal to try to also be
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Speaker 2: in that number that can be playing in Charlotte. So
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Speaker 2: much still to be determined in the ACC, and there's
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Speaker 2: only going to be one team that.
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Speaker 1: Emerges, Cincinnati. B You is that a playoff game in essence?
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Speaker 1: Or Cincinnati? Do they have too big of a hurdle
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Speaker 1: to overcome?
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Speaker 2: Cincinnati can get there. If Cincinnati knocks off BYU, that
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Speaker 2: gives b YU the second loss in the conference and
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Speaker 2: that makes Cincinnati on par and they would own the tiebreaker. Unfortunately,
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Speaker 2: Cincinnati lost to Utah, so then other things come into play.
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Speaker 2: And I haven't done all that math yet, but Utah
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Speaker 2: is hoping like heck that Cincinnati can pull this off
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Speaker 2: so they can get themselves another chance at the Red Raiders.
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Speaker 2: But beat if your Brett, your Mark for and the
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Speaker 2: commissioner of the league. You want BYU to get to
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Speaker 2: Arlington against Texas Tech because those two teams, I think,
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Speaker 2: regardless of the outcome, would both get into the playoffs.
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Speaker 1: All right, nice? All right? So what is our Taco
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Speaker 1: Time pick of the week for this week?
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Speaker 2: I think we're going to take be YU at Cincinnati.
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Speaker 2: We're gonna take them. I think that they're they're worth
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Speaker 2: the look there, it was an impressive win getting off
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Speaker 2: the mat after losing last week to UH Texas Tech.
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Speaker 2: They came back and got TCU and got them soundly.
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Speaker 2: So I'm going to take the Cougars this week.
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Speaker 1: So you're not going to take Eastern Illinois on the
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Speaker 1: money line, That's what I'm gonna glean.
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Speaker 2: I'm deciding against it. Yeah, I'm trying to think of
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Speaker 2: another character from Rudolph to see if the island of
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Speaker 2: missed but toy? Who else could.
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Speaker 1: Be on the d L there? Well, Yukon Cornelius is out.
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Speaker 1: Great defensive line.
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Speaker 2: Is out with a pick axe injury.
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Speaker 1: Oh it happens way too often. Back up there, dangerous
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Speaker 1: place to play football. All right? Well, so last minute.
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Speaker 1: What I mean, Washington U c l A. I mean,
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Speaker 1: you've got ties to both these programs, and you got
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Speaker 1: a son coaching. I mean, what kind of memories does
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Speaker 1: that stir up in Rick new Heizel's past.
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Speaker 2: So the first time we played him, I'm the head
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Speaker 2: coach now at Washington. My first year, we beat Stanford,
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Speaker 2: and now we actually have a chance to go and
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Speaker 2: get ourselves into the Rose Bowl, win the conference. We've
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Speaker 2: got a path, and we go. But Marcus got hurt
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Speaker 2: against Stanford. Despite the fact that he set an NCAA
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Speaker 2: record three hundred yards passing in two hundred yards rushing,
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Speaker 2: he had hurt his backside, so to speak, and couldn't practice.
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Speaker 2: So we get there and he's going to play, but
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Speaker 2: I mean he's stiff as a board, and so we
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Speaker 2: struggle a little bit offensively. We kick a fifty six
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Speaker 2: yard field goal to get ourselves into overtime. John Anderson
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Speaker 2: hit it, and now we're going to go into overtime,
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Speaker 2: and he's trying to hit I think he's trying to
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Speaker 2: hit Todd Elstrom on a corner route, or maybe he
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Speaker 2: was trying to hit Jeremy Steve on a steam route
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Speaker 2: and he should have been thrown it to Elstrom on
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Speaker 2: the corner route, and we threw a pick and end
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Speaker 2: up losing in overtime to UCLA. We'd beat Washington State
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Speaker 2: the next week, and the ifs and butts just kicked
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Speaker 2: flowing through my mind. But I'll tell you all those
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Speaker 2: kids were back last week for the reunion of that
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Speaker 2: twenty five year reunion of the Rose Bowl team, and
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Speaker 2: they had a blast. I got a great picture, a
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Speaker 2: bunch of smiling faces of some forty year olds that
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Speaker 2: have a memory for a lifetime.
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Speaker 1: That's awesome. All right, Well, enjoy the football this weekend
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Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you next Tuesday.
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Speaker 2: Appreciate it. See you now.
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Speaker 1: The one the only Rick new Isil joining us right
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Speaker 4: That means, thank you, great great grandchildren for continuing the lineage.
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Speaker 5: I only rise for the first, only for the first do.
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Speaker 1: It way back at the beginning of time.
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Speaker 5: It's where my allegiance lies.
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Speaker 1: That's how you end up with one hundred table we
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Speaker 1: one hundred four generations of corn Holes. All right, well,
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Speaker 1: let's get into it. The old judges here, we've got
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Speaker 1: some topics to discuss in his courtroom. Here's how it works.
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Speaker 1: I'll bring up a subject, Ashley and I discuss it briefly,
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Speaker 1: and then once the judge has heard enough, he bangs
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Speaker 1: his gabble gabble, gabble gabble. Ashley and I have to
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Speaker 1: zip it, and the old judge weighs in.
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Speaker 4: And you guys don't always zip it, uh, And so
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Speaker 4: there's a good chance that you will be thrown into
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Speaker 4: old judge jail.
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Speaker 5: Okay, I try to zip it.
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Speaker 1: Did you ever try Old judge, jail, do you ever
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Speaker 1: spend any time.
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Speaker 5: No, but I'm not opposed to it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, don't eat the gum.
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Speaker 5: Oh that's probably a good idea. Thank you for the
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Speaker 5: tip before I head him there.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, don't do that. All right, let's get it started.
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Speaker 1: This courtroom would be perfectly fine with Ben Williamson starting
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Speaker 1: at third base on opening day twenty twenty six.
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Speaker 5: Well, I think this courtroom probably would be totally fine
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Speaker 5: with Ben Williamson starting at third because his defense is
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Speaker 5: very good. It's just the bat that concerns me. But
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Speaker 5: maybe he's had enough time. He'll you know, he's got
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Speaker 5: to you got to get the reps to get better.
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Speaker 1: I think i's lying, old judge. I think she wants Gino,
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Speaker 1: and she's angry that I'm even mentioning this. That's what
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Speaker 1: I think. I think you might be right. I think
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Speaker 1: she's perjuring herself. Don't do that.
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Speaker 5: Well, you said this courtroom not necessarily me only, it's
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Speaker 5: never just you will. Yeah, so that's why I'm saying yes.
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Speaker 5: So I'm saying the courtroom. I think the consensus, I
20:19
Speaker 5: would guess would be that people would be fine. I
20:23
Speaker 5: still love Gino. I have a big geno size heart.
20:27
Speaker 1: I would be fine. I mean, I'm not saying that's
20:30
Speaker 1: my choice. I would be fine. If Ben Williamson ends
20:33
Speaker 1: up being our starting third basement at the beginning of
20:35
Speaker 1: the next year, I'm willing to give him another shot
20:37
Speaker 1: at it. Number two. I do believe that this organization
20:40
Speaker 1: kind of likes the way things unfolded last year, and
20:43
Speaker 1: they kind of liked the idea of getting to the
20:45
Speaker 1: trade deadline and then deciding how we're gonna plug what
20:48
Speaker 1: we might have as holes. And then the third thing
20:52
Speaker 1: is cold. Emerson's going to be ready sooner than later,
20:55
Speaker 1: and I think there's chance he'll be our third basement
20:57
Speaker 1: at some point next year and eventually the short stop
21:00
Speaker 1: replacing Gabble gabl Gavel Gavel.
21:04
Speaker 4: I do think you're right on the colt Emerson will
21:07
Speaker 4: eventually be our shortstop. And yet if he is, if
21:11
Speaker 4: he's quick, and if he's ready to go at some
21:13
Speaker 4: point next year, it could be coming out of spring training.
21:15
Speaker 4: I don't think that anyone if they let Gino go,
21:19
Speaker 4: which you know, if he ends up signing somewhere else,
21:21
Speaker 4: and I assume that is going to happen, because he's
21:23
Speaker 4: gonna get some big money, and they're probably not gonna
21:25
Speaker 4: want a pony up for that. They've already shown their
21:28
Speaker 4: hand that they're willing to let him go. They think
21:30
Speaker 4: there's another way in which you can block and tackle
21:32
Speaker 4: that position. So I wouldn't be surprised if that's the
21:37
Speaker 4: way in which it goes. And yet I think Ben
21:39
Speaker 4: Williamson kind of if there's a one or a one,
21:42
Speaker 4: A one B, however the depth chart looks at this point,
21:46
Speaker 4: I think he is number one, and I'll be fine
21:47
Speaker 4: with that because he saves your runs defensively, and he
21:50
Speaker 4: grinds out AB's, he tries, and he's he only had,
21:53
Speaker 4: you know, two hundred and seventy AB's last year. He
21:55
Speaker 4: didn't play all that long. And yet I saw moments
21:59
Speaker 4: of growth where he understands his role. He puts the
22:01
Speaker 4: ball in player, tries to put the ball in play,
22:03
Speaker 4: and at times he was making some stuff happen. There's
22:07
Speaker 4: there's just a lot of growth that needs to happen
22:09
Speaker 4: for me to consider him the guy that I want
22:11
Speaker 4: playing third when it's time to go win a World Series.
22:14
Speaker 1: The next professional athlete to intentionally spit on an opponent
22:18
Speaker 1: should just be suspended. For the rest of the season.
22:22
Speaker 5: I think if you are intentionally spitting on an opponent,
22:24
Speaker 5: then yes, because clearly this is happening too often now.
22:27
Speaker 5: And then you know, like with Jamar Chase's argument apparently
22:31
Speaker 5: for his suspension is well, if I wanted to spit
22:34
Speaker 5: on Janalin Ramsey, I would have spit on his face.
22:37
Speaker 5: Like that's that's not a good argument, Like spitting should
22:40
Speaker 5: never happen. There's no place for it. It is incredibly disgusting,
22:44
Speaker 5: It is beyond rude, and there's no there should be
22:47
Speaker 5: no place for that in sports. In life, you should
22:49
Speaker 5: never spit on another human.
22:50
Speaker 1: I just don't know how the message hasn't gotten clear. Yeah,
22:55
Speaker 1: we don't allow this in professional sports, is any kind
22:58
Speaker 1: of sport. We just don't allow that kind of disrespect
23:01
Speaker 1: to your opponent, and so I don't know what it's
23:05
Speaker 1: going to take to get through to them. It's the
23:07
Speaker 1: same thing with carrying the ball over the goal line.
23:11
Speaker 1: How many times are we going to see such stupidity.
23:14
Speaker 1: I think maybe you should just do that. If you
23:16
Speaker 1: can't carry the ball over the goal line, or if
23:20
Speaker 1: you spit on some other human being, you should just
23:23
Speaker 1: be suspended for the rest of the season without cavel
23:25
Speaker 1: Cavel cavel one percent.
23:27
Speaker 4: I don't understand the idea of I mean, sportsmanship used
23:31
Speaker 4: to be something that was taught, and I get that
23:34
Speaker 4: when tempers flare, you do things. I mean, I'm also
23:38
Speaker 4: one that sits here and says I'm okay with a
23:40
Speaker 4: brawl breaking out in sports Well, is what's worse punching
23:43
Speaker 4: somebody in the face or spitting on their chest? I mean, well,
23:47
Speaker 4: I think spitting is more disrespectful. Yeah, but it's not worse.
23:51
Speaker 4: It doesn't really hurt you.
23:53
Speaker 1: And yet you have daggers bleeding from spit.
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Speaker 5: Oh wow, that's my skin's melting off.
24:02
Speaker 4: What sur covid If you spit you would be attempted murder? Yeah,
24:07
Speaker 4: basically you even got within six feet. You were trying
24:10
Speaker 4: to kill somebody.
24:12
Speaker 1: Yeah I know, like, yeah, yeah, you're trying to kill me.
24:15
Speaker 4: Breathe It's I I just think that you got to
24:18
Speaker 4: figure out a way to nip it in the bud
24:19
Speaker 4: because it's not the one game suspension. And Jamar Chase,
24:23
Speaker 4: like you said, he's he's going to appeal it, even
24:26
Speaker 4: though you were caught on camera spitting on him. How
24:33
Speaker 4: does a loogi just accidentally just shoot out of your
24:36
Speaker 4: mouth while you're arguing with an opponent.
24:38
Speaker 1: It need to go so dumb that you're even trying.
24:41
Speaker 4: You don't just say yeah, I did, and it's a
24:44
Speaker 4: bad look and I shouldn't do it. He pisses me
24:46
Speaker 4: off and he said something and I wanted to spit
24:48
Speaker 4: on him. That's not the way to handle it. I
24:50
Speaker 4: should have waited until the next time that I could
24:52
Speaker 4: try to run him over and do it instead. He didn't,
24:55
Speaker 4: So yeah, suspend him, and I think it needs to
24:57
Speaker 4: be more substantial. Otherwise these guys don't care about one game.
25:00
Speaker 4: Especially he's probably good. I could take another bye week.
25:04
Speaker 1: I love that in the and it's getting worked up.
25:06
Speaker 1: Old Judge actually used the phrase who bitterly? Who I really?
25:14
Speaker 1: I don't know how I knew that playing for one thing. Yeah,
25:21
Speaker 1: number three? Enough is enough? Ken Walker, first string, Zach Charbonay,
25:26
Speaker 1: back up, George hallany mop up duty? That's it. That's
25:30
Speaker 1: the depth chart.
25:31
Speaker 5: Yes, I was when we were talking about this earlier
25:33
Speaker 5: and Greg was saying, you think it was Yeah. Greg
25:36
Speaker 5: was saying, oh, well, now, yes they are. I asked,
25:39
Speaker 5: I asked Mike McDonald about it, and now they are
25:41
Speaker 5: going to start to work ken Walker into more plays.
25:44
Speaker 5: Now with seven games left, you you're now going to
25:47
Speaker 5: start your starting running back working into more plays. And
25:50
Speaker 5: I understand they've been nursing this foot injury whatever ankle injury,
25:54
Speaker 5: but I think I don't understand it. The running game
25:57
Speaker 5: hasn't been as successful as he wanted to be because
26:00
Speaker 5: don't have your starter in there.
26:01
Speaker 1: Clear cut, Charbon is just situational and when Walker needs
26:04
Speaker 1: a rest, that's it. Yep, cavel, cavel, cavel.
26:08
Speaker 4: I'm with you guys as far as if we want
26:10
Speaker 4: the run, if you want the run game to be
26:12
Speaker 4: like highly effective, that's more than just well, they have
26:16
Speaker 4: to honor it because we will hand the ball off
26:18
Speaker 4: a bunch of times. And then, yes, your best best
26:20
Speaker 4: runner is ken Walker. And we've all seen that a
26:23
Speaker 4: guy can get into a flow and all of a
26:25
Speaker 4: sudden it can benefit him. I'll say this, and I don't.
26:27
Speaker 4: I don't live and die by PFF rankings. And yet,
26:33
Speaker 4: just in this last game, and it's been this has
26:35
Speaker 4: been a trend for more than just this last game.
26:38
Speaker 4: The best pass blocker on the team was Zach Charboney.
26:42
Speaker 4: The worst was Olo Timmy the second worst was Ken Walker.
26:47
Speaker 1: It is a factor. That's a factor, and so you.
26:49
Speaker 4: Can't just say, okay, when we're going to pass Zach charbonaey,
26:53
Speaker 4: you go in there, because then you'd give it a
26:55
Speaker 4: and hey, when we're gonna run, now, can you go
26:57
Speaker 4: in the game. And they're like, oh, well they're running
26:59
Speaker 4: here because they never You know, you don't want your
27:01
Speaker 4: quarterback to not be able to check to a pass
27:02
Speaker 4: play because he feels like the guy's standing beside me
27:05
Speaker 4: or behind me is not capable of picking up where
27:08
Speaker 4: we send him. So that could be part of the reason.
27:11
Speaker 4: And the fact that they're trying to keep him healthy.
27:12
Speaker 1: For the long haul. All of that stuff plays into it.
27:14
Speaker 4: So I think there's still is going to be a
27:16
Speaker 4: timeshare even if they get implement more runs for all Right.
27:19
Speaker 1: Fair enough, let's close with the phone. We got closed
27:21
Speaker 1: with a fun one. Even though we're late seeing Bruce
27:23
Speaker 1: arians rock the Keangle had on TV right now. I
27:28
Speaker 1: could see Bucky becoming a Cagle hat guy in the
27:32
Speaker 1: next year or two.
27:33
Speaker 6: Yes, please, yep, I could see Cavel Cavel. It's already
27:38
Speaker 6: owned one. Well, so I don't really try to do
27:42
Speaker 6: much dressing to come here. I have warned a couple times.
27:45
Speaker 6: I almost wore it on TV.
27:46
Speaker 4: A couple of years ago when I was doing one
27:48
Speaker 4: of the I almost rocked it, but it didn't match
27:51
Speaker 4: my vest that day.
27:53
Speaker 1: A little bit of a different too much of a
27:55
Speaker 1: different shade. You need numerous caangles I do need to
27:58
Speaker 1: match anything. I need to step my Cagle game up. Yeah,
28:01
Speaker 1: I could see you doing that me too. Even a pipe,
28:03
Speaker 1: like just going into like a classier version of yourself. Okay,
28:07
Speaker 1: tweet caangle, a pipe, yeah, maybe a monocle.
28:11
Speaker 5: Maybe a sweater your shoulders, anything else, sweater in your pocket, yeah, monicle,
28:19
Speaker 5: tweet jack cane, Yeah necessary.
28:25
Speaker 1: It's such a that's such a boss move when you
28:28
Speaker 1: don't even have a limp and you have.
28:29
Speaker 5: A you're that guy from boys Cement at that point
28:32
Speaker 5: and nobody knows really what the king was for.
28:34
Speaker 1: Forget the monica. I was kidding about that caangle and Caine.
28:37
Speaker 5: Okay, that's a good company.
28:39
Speaker 1: Busted out tomorrow coming up next. One last thing, kJ R.
28:43
Speaker 4: You're out the way to nip it in the bud
28:44
Speaker 4: because it's not the one game suspension and Jamar Chase,
28:48
Speaker 4: like you said, he's he's going to appeal it, even
28:51
Speaker 4: though you were caught on camera spitting on him intentional.
28:58
Speaker 1: How does a loogie? Just accidentally.
29:01
Speaker 4: I did say billy, who oh who?
29:08
Speaker 1: Every time?
29:09
Speaker 5: Who know how you heard that though? Because I didn't,
29:14
Speaker 5: I miss that entirely.
29:15
Speaker 1: I didn't hear it. It came out of my mouth. I
29:17
Speaker 1: want you to introduce it is part of your glossary
29:20
Speaker 1: of terms every time you got a problem with something.
29:25
Speaker 5: Okay, the old judge.
29:29
Speaker 1: He'll loan it out everyone to me. I want it
29:33
Speaker 1: right in the middle of Hugh milling analysis. Oh Billy, Hugh.
29:38
Speaker 5: He will be like, who you calling a baby?
29:39
Speaker 1: Billy? Who you? That's a great that's a good one.
29:44
Speaker 1: Who by who? You and your mumbo jumbo know what
29:48
Speaker 1: that means?
29:49
Speaker 5: It means anything doesn't need to It's provocative. Who gets
29:53
Speaker 5: the people going all right? By the way, I was
29:56
Speaker 5: also thinking about it. Not a cane, No, the person
30:02
Speaker 5: that rocks the staff. It's not just for wizards and
30:05
Speaker 5: warlocks anymore.
30:06
Speaker 1: No, you've come out vikings.
30:09
Speaker 4: Ah, sure sta staff go with a cagle it you
30:14
Speaker 4: never had for a staff.
30:16
Speaker 1: No, you don't want to. Because I did see somebody
30:18
Speaker 1: dressed like Gandalf at the bookstore the other day. Did
30:21
Speaker 1: you you don't want to go that way? You're creating
30:23
Speaker 1: a new look. Oh look this is me, This is
30:28
Speaker 1: part of me. Okay, yeah, so a Cagle. You just
30:31
Speaker 1: got to get the right staff pipe staff.
30:34
Speaker 5: Staff's gonna make or break it.
30:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta get the right one, all right. One
30:38
Speaker 1: last thing, what do we go? What do you got?
30:40
Speaker 4: I last night, I don't know if you guys ever
30:41
Speaker 4: watched the el the Manning cast thing anymore? I switch around,
30:45
Speaker 4: I mean, which sometimes it just gets on one and
30:47
Speaker 4: I stay there. But yesterday I gave the Manning Cast
30:50
Speaker 4: one a good a good watch for part of the
30:53
Speaker 4: game last night, and it just made me reminded me
30:56
Speaker 4: of one of the things that I missed the most
30:58
Speaker 4: about playing is the the joking, just joking, not altogether pranks.
31:04
Speaker 4: But Eli Manning brought up a prank they had Derek
31:08
Speaker 4: Carr on and they were talking about what he did
31:12
Speaker 4: to him at his first Pro Bowl, Derek Carr's first
31:14
Speaker 4: Pro Bowl that he said, Hey, man, what room are
31:17
Speaker 4: you at? And Derek Carr thought, oh wow, Eli's being nice.
31:20
Speaker 4: He's like being a friend, and he said, send me
31:22
Speaker 4: something send something up to my room. No, he just
31:25
Speaker 4: asked what room he was in so he could charge
31:27
Speaker 4: all of the offensive lineman's drinks to his room.
31:30
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, like that is awesome.
31:34
Speaker 1: That is awesome. I was last week.
31:37
Speaker 4: I was hanging out somewhere and a buddy of mine
31:40
Speaker 4: played its Rain and Men that song, and so I
31:42
Speaker 4: told the story of how I changed my buddy's walk
31:45
Speaker 4: up song. Yeah, he's just getting ready to go up
31:47
Speaker 4: there and battle and compete, and it's Rain and Men.
31:51
Speaker 4: And he turns around and our whole dougout was dying
31:53
Speaker 4: laughing because we all knew what was happening.
31:56
Speaker 1: He didn't.
31:56
Speaker 4: He struck out. Then he was really mad. But anyway,
31:59
Speaker 4: it's just stuff like that I miss. Yeah, we need
32:01
Speaker 4: to bring it back, start bringing it, doing it here.
32:04
Speaker 2: Yeah.
32:04
Speaker 5: I like pranks. Let's keep doing Let's start him here
32:07
Speaker 5: a little bit.
32:08
Speaker 1: Little yeah, you know, not like blowing up somebody's car. No, okay,
32:13
Speaker 1: Oh I.
32:15
Speaker 5: Should take the dynamite out.
32:16
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, take that. Yeah, let's remove that.
32:20
Speaker 5: I think I think I went too far too quick.
32:23
Speaker 5: One last thing, well, I was going to use this
32:25
Speaker 5: Jamar Chase thing, but we ended up talking about it.
32:27
Speaker 5: In the old Judge. But I just thought, as who
32:31
Speaker 5: I just thought as I was reading it, like that's
32:33
Speaker 5: the thing that I can't understand is, Yeah, you are
32:35
Speaker 5: on film spitting on another person, and you're going to
32:39
Speaker 5: say if I was trying to spit on him, I
32:41
Speaker 5: would have spit on his face. Like that's a good argument.
32:45
Speaker 5: And so then what is it that, yeah, you spit,
32:48
Speaker 5: but you missed his face. And I mean, I don't know.
32:51
Speaker 5: I just think, as as we talked about in there,
32:53
Speaker 5: I think, honestly, as silly, maybe as it sounds, are overreactive,
32:57
Speaker 5: maybe as it sounds to suspend anyone that does that
32:59
Speaker 5: for the entire season. Yeah, you don't. You don't have
33:02
Speaker 5: respect for the people you're playing, so you shouldn't be playing.
33:04
Speaker 1: I'm just tired of hearing about it. How can it's
33:07
Speaker 1: just like just like not holding onto the ball past
33:10
Speaker 1: the goal line? Like how many times this have to happen?
33:12
Speaker 1: How many times people have to get embarrassed? How many
33:14
Speaker 1: times do people have to hear the lecture how disrespectful
33:16
Speaker 1: this is, and it somehow just keeps continuing. What is
33:18
Speaker 1: it that is natural in you that you would ever
33:22
Speaker 1: come to the point.
33:23
Speaker 5: That's what I can't figure out. Yeah, the natural reaction
33:25
Speaker 5: would be punch him, hit him something.
33:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, I'll close with this and this
33:29
Speaker 1: will be really quick. I mean he might feel twenty
33:32
Speaker 1: four at age forty four, but Mike Bnton's the first
33:35
Speaker 1: guy eliminated from our fantasy football league. Nice season, four
33:39
Speaker 1: year old.
33:39
Speaker 5: Good job. Yeah, work that one out.
33:42
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, you might feel twenty years younger, but you're
33:45
Speaker 1: not twenty years better. Yeah yeah, sucker.
33:48
Speaker 7: Well I just pulled off a trade with him. Oh
33:50
Speaker 7: is that right? Yeah, I might have to. I'm as commissioner.
33:53
Speaker 7: I might have to blow the whistle. He's been eliminated.
33:56
Speaker 7: What is he going to get out of it? Well,
33:58
Speaker 7: it still is a fair he actually I offered.
34:01
Speaker 4: Him one that had been way more in my favor first,
34:04
Speaker 4: and he came back with We went back and forth.
34:06
Speaker 4: Most I need a running back, so I got hit
34:09
Speaker 4: the backup. I got Dave Montgomery. He's a backup, but
34:11
Speaker 4: he still can be good.
34:13
Speaker 1: Still. Troy Franklin feels like a load of who Btterley,
34:15
Speaker 1: who if you have running back?
34:18
Speaker 4: Somebody did try to veto it we need somebody did
34:20
Speaker 4: try to video veto the trade.
34:22
Speaker 5: I don't know who did.
34:24
Speaker 1: Really, I didn't even know that you could do that.
34:26
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