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Episode 1632 - Pimp My Hunt · Drinkin‘ Bros Podcast

• 0:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Sit back relax, and have a bucket, dress, dress, dress.
• 0:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: throws kids of Friday after noon show the Anthony Anthony Holloway is a back east right now can't say what he's doing it's some fun stuff I appreciate the wide though I appreciate the wide though.
• 0:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: uh... meet with some investors and all that stuff for hardy of shelter show goes on i hear you were selling out a lot of places and all that other stuff so it feels like it's uh... it's a lot of our uh... time these days however uh... once that gets settled were good to go after that and who cares but occasionally pop a bear will take over in the meantime i uh... caught my buddy's trailer on the interwebs and it's
• 1:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: Our good friend, Derek.
• 1:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: How are you, Derek?
• 1:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Welcome back to the show.
• 1:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: I love your new show, Pint My Hunts.
• 1:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: It is out now on Wolf on Tames, Derek Wolf.
• 1:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: We helped you out with this in the beginning of it and your wife had pitched this on it.
• 1:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was a huge fan of the concept.
• 1:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was a lot like Pint My Ride except for hunting.
• 1:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: How did you guys come together and figure out what was going to be the pilot episode and all that other fun stuff?
• 1:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, you know, Abby was my wife obviously, so Abby was talking to me about, you know, what am I looking to do in this hunting space because I'm just going to do what everybody else is doing and just go out and, you know, show me shooting stuff and whispering around in the woods and it's just the same thing over and over again, it's so boring and people are just kind of sick of sand and there's nothing really new.
• 2:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: And she just, like, I don't know, she just, I don't know where, come to look at this idea.
• 2:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: She's like, you remember, pit my ride?
• 2:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, yeah, she's like, what if you just like, showed up at someone's house?
• 2:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: And just took them hunting.
• 2:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, yeah, that sounds great honey, but like, you realize there's like all these, there's all these regulations and tags and all this other stuff that you have to do to make that happen.
• 2:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: She's like, well, so what?
• 2:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's just do it.
• 2:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: And let's make it badass.
• 2:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like,
• 2:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right, let's try it.
• 2:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: So she kept for about six months.
• 2:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: She just kept kind of coming up with ideas and talking about it.
• 2:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then one day I was done, I was done there with you guys.
• 2:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
• 2:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: And we were just sitting there and I was talking to Joel about the idea.
• 2:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
• 2:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: And you were like, hey, you know Joel was the editor on Pitt My Ride, right?
• 2:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was like, no fucking way.
• 2:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like it was meant to be.
• 2:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it just, it all came together.
• 2:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: And man, it was so, it was so cool
• 3:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: It went kind of exactly how we wanted it to.
• 3:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like we snuck up in this guy's house, woke him up at a bed, tossed him on a helicopter, took him to the western slope of Colorado, which is just like, it looks, it's a crazy scenery, the scenery is just unreal.
• 3:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then we took him into this cabin and just helped him up with like 10, it was 10 grand worth of gear.
• 3:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: So clothes and shotguns and packs and energy, just all kinds of shit.
• 3:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he got to keep it all.
• 3:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he got to keep it all.
• 3:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's amazing, because when we were talking about it on the show, we were kind of promoting it on drinking bro's sports during the NFL season.
• 3:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: Was it Caleb Newberry, it was one of our listeners who did it and I actually know him personally through the years, just live events and shows and all that stuff, he's a great person.
• 3:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: How I got to meet him was he came up, he was in a live show and then he came up the
• 4:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I had no idea, I'd never met a kid who was actually they were at Columbine during that process, I mean, sorry, not during the process, but during that horrific shooting, but in the process, we became good friends after that, where I was just, I mean, I ended up hanging out with them for like an hour, hour and a half in the studio afterwards.
• 4:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: just asking questions, and I was like, man, I hope this isn't too invasive.
• 4:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: I've always been curious about the story of Columbine, what actually went down how bad it was, and then since it was so long ago, if people were still going through that, did you get a chance to chat with them and say, hey, do you still think about this on a daily basis, or any of that stuff?
• 4:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, it was really actually, it was actually kind of perfect at the way it worked out,
• 4:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I told him I said, hey, man, I'm like, when I picked them up and we were driving to the airport everything, you know, he kind of mentioned that he was at call minus it don't tell me anything about it.
• 4:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: I said wait until we get to the blind.
• 5:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to set up in a blind and wait for some turkeys to come through.
• 5:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to call him in.
• 5:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: I said, while we're sitting there, that's when I want you to tell me about it.
• 5:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: So there's like a whole little four or five minutes segment.
• 5:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: of him just telling me the story about that day and what it was like and what the school was like and it's just I just go check it out because it was it's such a cool video it's unlike any other hunting video that I've ever seen.
• 5:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's nothing like it man and it's just it goes from it goes from all this action helicopter to you know getting them geared up and getting ready to go out into the woods and then we get out there and set up on a blind and then he just starts telling his story.
• 5:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: And man, it just blew my mind because like you almost everybody's been everybody's been a high school or sure, you know, so everybody can relate to like what it's like to go to high school and but nobody can not a lot of people can relate to what it's like for a couple of cycles coming there just shoot to place up.
• 5:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, the funniest thing he said to me was, he said, man, I thought it was a prank.
• 6:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: He said it was kind of closer to the end of the year.
• 6:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: He was like, I thought that they were just letting off fireworks because that's what people did at the end of the year.
• 6:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like we would let off fireworks and the ducks and stuff.
• 6:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like that was like a normal thing back then, you know, people used to be able to play play, play, play pranks because they're school shootings just weren't really a thing, you know, that was the first one I can remember.
• 6:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know about you.
• 6:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I was in college, you know, I remember going back and some of my fraternity brothers were like, hey, dude,
• 6:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: Do you believe what's going on in the news?
• 6:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, I just got out of class.
• 6:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what's going on.
• 6:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then we all just kind of watched the television together.
• 6:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: And all of us were stunned.
• 6:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: One, because I was in college at the time.
• 6:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: But two, I just graduated high school.
• 6:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: And you look at those scenes, and you think to yourself, there's no way this could happen to me at my high school.
• 6:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then it happened to him.
• 6:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: And that's what he said.
• 6:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: He said, man, bullying wasn't like a thing.
• 6:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was like the norm.
• 6:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was a normal school.
• 6:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't like this weird bullying culture.
• 7:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was just like, he just, it was really surprising for it to happen.
• 7:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, and you know, he talks about how he comes down to the, and do a hallway and hears bullets, whizn't buy him.
• 7:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 7:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, man, I was like, dude, you're so lucky that you didn't get...
• 7:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: you know, get shot.
• 7:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's like, I know.
• 7:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's like, I still didn't think it was real, but you could, like, there's a certain screen.
• 7:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: He said, there's a certain screen that you hear, that you know, shit's real, that it's not a joke anymore.
• 7:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then he said the way teachers were responding, he was like, okay, yeah, this is not a joke.
• 7:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, we're going to get that out of here.
• 7:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: Man, it's just such an insane thing.
• 7:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then now, I feel like in today's world, you hear about it every couple months or three to four months, and you're kind of used to it.
• 7:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: But anytime you say the word column bind, it immediately takes you back to that place where the first one was and all that other shits.
• 7:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then I remember as it happens, when I was sitting there watching it with the rest of my fraternity brothers, I set out loud, I go, I guarantee you
• 8:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: There's going to be cats, bullshit, and everybody wants to be famous because now these two guys are famous, even though they're fucking dead.
• 8:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: And sure enough, over the years, you know, you have the Aurora story with the Colorado.
• 8:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think it was the Joker movie that guys showed up to.
• 8:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was the Dark Knight.
• 8:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Dark Knight Rises.
• 8:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's it.
• 8:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: The third one in the trilogy actually.
• 8:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, thanks, Bob.
• 8:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you, Bob.
• 8:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: I appreciate that.
• 8:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, and, you know, you hear about these shootings all the time, but like still to this day, rap references Columbine and all that of the shit, like I hear it all the time still.
• 8:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's, it's pretty wild.
• 8:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I've met a lot of people, obviously living here, I've met a lot of people that go that have graduated from Columbine, but I've never met someone who was there.
• 8:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: When it all went down, and he was the first one I met.
• 8:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it was just an incredible story, man.
• 8:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just blood, it's just, it's makes sure it scares the shit out of me, you know, because when you have kids in school, there's just like who knows, there might be some psycho trans kids that decides they're going to show up and shoot everybody.
• 9:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, you know, when are we going to make it, when are we going to make a decision to, because that happened in 1999, right?
• 9:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yep, it was in 1999.
• 9:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: We still have it put guard armed guards at their school.
• 9:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like why are they not,
• 9:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: So we have Texas, in Texas, we do.
• 9:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: So when I drop my kids off, there's a police officer there all day and then trying to get through to the school itself, good luck.
• 9:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: There's two separate doors, two different types of bulletproof glass and usually public school.
• 9:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, public school.
• 9:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so that's every school in the state of Texas and then usually,
• 9:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: If my kid forget something, you don't have to drop it off a class, a water bottle, or whatever.
• 9:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: And the woman will just pull lightly, motion, there's a like a cart right in front of the glass, and she'll say, hey, just drop it there, we'll come out and get it later, and then give it to your kids.
• 10:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: They won't even let me, even though it's my son, inside to drop off his water bottle or or anything else.
• 10:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: And by the way, I don't mind it.
• 10:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: If you're going to that precaution, great.
• 10:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't have any fear that's anything's going to happen because it's pretty secure.
• 10:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now, the thing that you can't stop is kids themselves bring it in shits, because there's no metal detectors or things like that, but also do you really want that?
• 10:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you and I grew up in a time where we didn't have any of this bullshit.
• 10:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah.
• 10:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: You really want to walk into a school every day where there's metal detectors and then, you know, people right fund through your backpacks and shit.
• 10:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: No.
• 10:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: Is it going on?
• 10:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's in schools around America?
• 10:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
• 10:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: So, you're you're torn on it's like how far do you go?
• 10:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Ross, I graduated high school on 2008.
• 10:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: And even then, we, I would, like, if we were going to go hunt, like, sometimes we'd go hunting after school.
• 11:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: So like I would have my shotgun and like all my other shit like in my truck parked in the parking line it was like normal no big deal You know, as long as like as long as it was like in a case and you know, yeah, no care it wasn't a big thing now if you did that now they would crucify you Oh, I'd be it you'd be on national TV for some reason that was you can't even do that anymore.
• 11:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I mean I just think that
• 11:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's a good story and I think that it has kind of everything you want in a show so I'm really hoping that you know maybe we can get somebody to pick it up.
• 11:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: because, you know, we sell funded the pilot.
• 11:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
• 11:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, that was my first, you know, that was our first crack and anything like that.
• 11:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm just really, that's like, that's the thing about, and I don't mean to, you know, to just like, height my wife up, but do she's so talented, it just really everything she does, you know, as when it comes to like building homes and it comes to investing money and it comes to like, literally everything,
• 12:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: that she touches it like works out because she just has a mind she has this like artistic
• 12:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: mind that just like when she sees it she like has a plan and puts it in motion whereas I'm just like brute force you know yeah right I just want to lift my way through it or you know you know struggle my way through it well she thinks it's like the best possible way to do it and man just watching her coordinate everything and in the in the video you'll see every now and then you'll see her pop in and out but she just really coordinated the entire thing and it
• 12:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's just I don't know.
• 12:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I was I was stunned.
• 12:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was kind of I was shocked at how well it actually turned out because I wasn't sure what to expect.
• 12:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, down to the detail like if she didn't like the way I she was like I she because I was tired of shit, you know, we went to wake up at the ass crack and on.
• 12:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: and go wait this dude up and then like I was so tired she kept telling me like you better cheer up like push my own face be nice I was like all right sorry that's the entertainment but that's show business anyway it's just like the audience doesn't care how shitty your day was all they care about is hey dude this is my entertainment for 30 minutes for a half hour show or for a podcast
• 13:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: 90 minutes or whatever they don't have a fuck what you went through at home and like I learned that a very very long time ago and first movie I was on I showed up it was hung over the next day was like I need some aspirin or whatever and they're like hey you're on in like 15 and I was like I don't worry about it I'll be there and they were like oh good because a lot of people aren't and you have to realize that it's about what you're seeing on screen no one gives a shit about anything you went through behind the scenes all they care about is the
• 13:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: and whether or not they were entertained for that particular day when they watched that particular show and that's it.
• 13:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now with your wife when I talk to her in these production meetings, she's a natural born producer.
• 13:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean she had contracts on lock, ideas, creators, producers, everything, credits, everything in contracts that you need to get in and out the door.
• 14:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it's very very smart because no one does that.
• 14:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: Nobody's prepared for the other side of the business They just look at like, oh, hey, we got this cool thing and we shoot this cool thing or whatever But they don't think about the contract aspect of it and then for us since we were home He's I'm like, all right, let's let me try to just get this budget as low as possible Because I know you guys are coming out of pocket on it and then go with God after that and it appears if it turned out amazing I can't wait to watch it tonight
• 14:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: uh... it just dropped yesterday and uh... and i'm looking forward to it um... this one was a turkey shoot what are the hopes and dreams for the future like what what's the ultimate uh... kill for you as far as hunting goes um... so from rosley here's what's what's happened in the hunting in the hunting universe
• 14:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's a bunch of these super wealthy Americans and a bunch of super wealthy Russians that they all love to hunt, right?
• 14:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
• 14:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: So they would pay an exorbit amount of money to go on these crazy hunts and whether it be a big horn sheep or a moose or a big elk.
• 15:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: But what they do if they've inflated the price because when you have, there's a guy, you know, Jimmy John, Jimmy John's a big hunter, right?
• 15:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: He'll pay millions of dollars for tax.
• 15:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't care.
• 15:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he's not saying it's Jimmy John's fault, because he does a lot of work for conservation too.
• 15:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just saying that guys in those positions have inflated the hunting community and to make it so that the average guy, like the plumber that makes 100 grand a year, or the...
• 15:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, the teacher that likes to hunt.
• 15:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like his opportunity to like draw a tag and then okay so he draws that tag right so he draws an elf tag in a certain unit well he doesn't know that unit for for many things so he wants to go hunt on this ranch.
• 15:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's going to pay 15 grand just to go kill an elk.
• 15:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
• 15:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that that's not like read that's not reasonable.
• 15:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, you want to go kill a stone sheep up in British Columbia right now, $120,000.
• 16:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Holy shit, how much meat are you getting out of that, too?
• 16:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: You're not getting shit for me.
• 16:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: You're going to throw a set of horns.
• 16:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: You're doing it for an Instagram photo at that point.
• 16:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: You are doing it.
• 16:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, and there's this thing called the sheep slam.
• 16:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: So there's four sheep in North America, four big horn sheep in North America.
• 16:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's a desert sheep where she could do down the Sonora.
• 16:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's a $75,000 hot.
• 16:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then you can do your doll sheep, which is up in like the Yukon.
• 16:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'll ask you, that's an all white big horn sheep.
• 16:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's 50 grams, 60 grand.
• 16:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then you have your stone sheep, your stone sheep, 120 grand.
• 16:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then you have your Rocky Mountain Big Horn.
• 16:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the other way to get that one is to draw the tag or buy a tag at auction.
• 16:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the cheapest one I've seen is 200 grand.
• 16:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, these shit.
• 16:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: So you're talking, you're gonna spend a million bucks.
• 16:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, if you do it, like, you're gonna spend half a million bucks.
• 16:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: Nobody has that, nobody has it kind of cash, just laying around.
• 16:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I guess some of these rich dudes do.
• 16:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: But that's what I'm saying, these guys will pay it.
• 17:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, a moose hunt, you wanna go to Alaska and shoot a moose in a grizzly bear.
• 17:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: You better be ready to write a $50,000 check, $60,000 check.
• 17:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I've got one friend who's done it and he's rich and he does it once a year.
• 17:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: He goes to Africa and hunts a bunch of wild shit.
• 17:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, well, Africa is affordable because when you once you get over there, getting there is the most expensive part.
• 17:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Once you're there, you can wheel and deal with those with those PA's, with those private hunters.
• 17:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
• 17:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: They will wheel and deal with you.
• 17:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like whatever your budget is, say your budgets, you know, five grand, they'll figure out a couple animals for you to shoot while you're there.
• 17:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: But then you could spend a hundred grand machine and elephant if you want.
• 17:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he was spending I exactly asked him and he told me.
• 17:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: He said he was spending fifty all in as far as flights Getting there and then what he was killing right and it was some exotic ship that like you know It was like a half a zebra a half elk thing where you're just like, oh shit What the fuck is that right and I would see what you're talking about it was a it was an Eland
• 18:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's probably a big Eland.
• 18:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're like the biggest antelope there is.
• 18:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're like a thousand pound antelope.
• 18:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's crazy looking.
• 18:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's weird looking dude.
• 18:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: It looks like ice-like shut.
• 18:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the hunting world is crazy, man.
• 18:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's, there's a lot of people blur the lines between like trophy hunting and meat hunting.
• 18:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, but the problem is is that
• 18:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: you know a lot of these guys they do they hunt public land every year and if you're a public land elk hunter you're with a bow in your hand your chances of success are less than 7% so like you're probably not going to kill an elk like it's just
• 18:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, you're going to try your ass off and you might say you get five days.
• 18:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: You took five days of work off of work, right?
• 18:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now your wife's pissed off at you, right?
• 18:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because you're gone for five days.
• 18:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're taking five days off of work where she would rather go on some fucking vacation or something and you're like, well, I'm going out kind of September.
• 19:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, so now you spent five days.
• 19:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: You've hiked a hundred miles.
• 19:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, seriously, like you're putting 10, 20 miles in your feet every day.
• 19:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then just to come home with nothing, right?
• 19:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I just, it's those guys that I want to be able to take them on a hunt that they would never get to go on, right?
• 19:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'll give you an example.
• 19:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, so last year I did an over-the-counter-all-consess and elk tag that it was a collar rod and you could just go by and hunt public land.
• 19:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was able to kill an elk.
• 19:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: I got lucky and had a little piece of private I was able to hide.
• 19:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I had a thousand acres I was allowed to hunt, right?
• 19:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Seems like a fuck ton on land, right?
• 19:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: It, there was, there was elk, there was a 20,000 acre piece next to us.
• 19:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's Raleigh Elquire.
• 19:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I had to like call an elk off of that property to get it to come over.
• 19:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: So even if you have private, it's still really hard.
• 19:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: So what I did this year is I bought something called a commissioner tag up in Wyoming.
• 19:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: How much does run you?
• 19:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: 35,000.
• 20:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: Holy shit for one year?
• 20:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
• 20:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
• 20:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then is it are limited?
• 20:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: Do you get to kill as much as you want?
• 20:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, you kill one.
• 20:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: Whoa, dude.
• 20:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Go one.
• 20:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
• 20:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: So what is it?
• 20:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: What is it?
• 20:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: What's the one?
• 20:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just an elk?
• 20:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: You get to pick the, you get to pick the unit you want to hunt.
• 20:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: And Wyoming.
• 20:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: So Wyoming has the biggest elk, honestly.
• 20:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: If, if you ask, well, the people will say, no, that's Arizona, whatever.
• 20:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: I like Wyoming hunting better because it's more mountainous and everything.
• 20:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: But
• 20:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: the area that I'm hunting, it's a 330,000 private acre ranch, right?
• 20:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: So not only in my spending 35 grand on a tag, I also have to pay the outfit or 15,000, because I want to kill one big giant bull once in my life.
• 20:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and that's what I have to do to do it.
• 20:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Or I just wait for another 10, 15 years until I have enough points to go to one of these and draw a tag in one of
• 20:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's what I want to be able to do.
• 20:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: I want to get a budget so that I can do things like that and take people to do that like I want them to experience that
• 21:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, because not everybody got the play in the NFL.
• 21:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Not everybody, you know, started a sandwich company that sold for billions of dollars, you know, not right, not as some people are just grinding it out, man, and they're working their ass off and they're good parents, good fathers, or they're good fathers, good husbands, and they work their ass off, those are the people I want to take, and give them those opportunities.
• 21:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because there's a ton of organizations that take veterans and do school shit like this all the time, you know.
• 21:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: But there's nothing really for the regular guy.
• 21:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: for the guy that's just like he loves the hunt he loves watching hunting he loves supporting guys that are hunting but fuck who's doing anything for him exactly and it feels like everybody's been priced out of it's uh... root your right man i mean looking just looking back in my friends on instagram
• 21:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: The ones who were doing it are all rich.
• 21:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't know any poor dude who's out there who's just got lucky, he was just like, oh, he shits.
• 21:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: I fucking killed this, this one thing.
• 21:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, you have to have access to it.
• 22:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: And you know where it is.
• 22:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like, and that's the other side of it is where that's why I want to like really not just take them on a hunt.
• 22:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: I want to hook them up with the best fucking gear that you can get, right?
• 22:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like if the next one ends up being like a guy
• 22:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: boom, we take this archery hunter out, and I'm going to hook him up with the bet because honestly, if you go buy a brand new bow, right, set it all up, you're going to be in that bow for about $2,000.
• 22:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, easily, uh, Dan just bought one.
• 22:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: He bought a bow and I was like, hey man, how much was that fucking thing?
• 22:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: Because they're so sophisticated now that it looks like a goddamn machine gun for a carbon fiber.
• 22:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that of all carbon.
• 22:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then it's like, you know, it's crazy.
• 22:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: The both sides and then the arrows are fucking titanium and fused with carbon.
• 22:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like there's all kinds of cool shit, you know?
• 22:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, all kinds of cool shit you can do, right?
• 22:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, it's not like it used to be where, like, you know, it used to be like, you know, you get a bow for 500 bucks and, you know, get your arrows for a couple hundred bucks.
• 23:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: You'd be in it for, you know, 6, 700 bucks and you'd have a bow that you could shoot for a couple of years.
• 23:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now, it's like every year they're pumping out a new bow and, you know, some guys are shooting bows that are old as shit.
• 23:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, you know, they're not wearing the right boots, like, because a pair of boots is 700 bucks.
• 23:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
• 23:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
• 23:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: And they're about 700 bucks.
• 23:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's become such a, uh, I feel like, and I'm not shitting on Rogan here because he, he brought hunting, I think, and bow hunting in particular, back to the forefront with, with Camhaines and all those guys.
• 23:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: But it's because of that, and because it just took off.
• 23:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: uh... it's also gotten very very expensive not only for the hunts like you were talking about but the clothing in the gear in the outfits in the boots in all of it who are your sponsors at the end of the day because i know you and abbey were working on some behind the scenes uh... was first form on this yeah first form is on so on the show
• 23:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just had Sponsor set up just for the show.
• 23:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I had a company called Born Primitive for Geer.
• 23:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I had a first form at Garmin.
• 24:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: I had Mossberg.
• 24:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: I had lacrosse boots.
• 24:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: So you're the best of the best on that.
• 24:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, turtle box.
• 24:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: For like outdoor speakers, grizzly coolers.
• 24:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: Half face blades with Andrea Bito.
• 24:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: And those, like, that's the other thing.
• 24:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: You want to get a good knife?
• 24:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Andrew's knives are like they're like custom one of a kind hand forged knives.
• 24:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's not like this bullshit you just go buy to Cabellas.
• 24:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is this is a knife that you're going to have for I'll tell you.
• 24:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: I had that I had a knife that I scanned an elk in three deer with it and a sheep this year and I never had a sharpen it once.
• 24:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and that's no bullshit, like normally I'm at while I'm while I'm skinning an elk.
• 24:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: I got to keep sharpening it with most knives.
• 24:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: But with that fucker, it is sharpest shit.
• 24:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I hooked him up with one of those knives.
• 24:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: I had six-hour binoculars.
• 24:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: They have these binoculars that are like three grand and they're stabilizing binoculars.
• 24:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: So you can literally glass and drive.
• 24:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: So you can look through your binoculars and drive and it will stabilize the
• 25:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's the coolest fit of holy shit, dude.
• 25:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's a bad.
• 25:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Martial fuel for like buying a heart.
• 25:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's just what people don't think.
• 25:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like you need a buy-in-a-harnish.
• 25:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: You need a pack.
• 25:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: Initial of scent came through with the packs.
• 25:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we had a bunch of sponsors on board to really hook it up.
• 25:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know if I'm forgetting there were so many sponsors on this one.
• 25:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I just had a really good call with a company.
• 25:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: You've heard a coup, you, right?
• 25:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
• 25:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just had a really good call with Koo you the other day and they were like, hey man, if you want to do this again, we would love to be the gear sponsor for this one.
• 25:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, fuck yeah, that would be sweet because that's the other thing.
• 25:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Go look, I want anybody that's watching go get on koo you.com right now or sick or any of these companies and look, you're paying 2,300 bucks for a pair of pants, you're paying 200 bucks for the top and then you need like layer, you have to layer yourself up.
• 26:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Just walking out the door, just walking out the front door, you're going to spend $1,000.
• 26:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let alone the equipment and everything else that comes with it.
• 26:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: Then that price gets even higher along with the tag fees and everything you were talking about earlier.
• 26:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: They've made hunting very, very expensive now.
• 26:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: And what I'd love to see, Derek, is one red piece of yarn.
• 26:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: a tree branch just like the engines used to use and then hey dude go out and kill something with that sharp in the stick on your own you know a tree branch that you kind of do and then see if you can kill something like you're in the 16 1700s and then find that out because right now for the the cost of an average you know normal dude to go out and do this it's just too fucking high in the economy we're in right now to go out and and have an experience like this I mean just
• 26:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: We'll think about this.
• 26:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Diesel's fucking $5 a gallon right now.
• 26:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
• 26:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: So now you've got to fill your truck up.
• 26:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: You got to pay 900 bucks, 900 bucks to $1,500 bucks for a fucking Elk tag, just for your over-the-counter Elk tag, and then just to, and then you got another 1,000 bucks in clothing.
• 27:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: You got $700 bucks in boots, you got a $500 buy-no harness, you got a pair of $2,000 binoculars, you got it.
• 27:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: a $2,000 bow, you got, yeah, you got another, you got a $1,200 pack, yep.
• 27:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, thinking about the numbers, like it's starting to rack up here, and you go up there and hike your dick off for days.
• 27:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: You don't tell anything.
• 27:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, you come home empty handed, which Derek, you did a lot, and I kept sitting on your Instagram, and I kept making funny videos, like man, I hope he gets to kill something one day.
• 27:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: Just one day, it'd be great,
• 27:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's hard man.
• 27:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's hard with it.
• 27:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't care how.
• 27:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't care how That's the other thing as sneaking around is six foot six three and a pound Sneaking out on anything They can either come from forever away.
• 28:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, there's a fucking bear out there, bro Like that's you you're the bear in this situation try to sneak up on these fun.
• 28:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: I have to do so I have to do I have to approach everything differently because if you look
• 28:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Everybody that is like a really highly successful bow on her is built like campaigns, you know, you have a shorter guy They can walk for fucking 30 miles and nobody cares like it's not a big deal, but I've figured out ways to like get around that and it's that's why I like hunting out because you can call Elk and get them to come to you So if you just give yourself a good backdrop and set yourself up in a position and think like where would the elk not go?
• 28:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: And where do I think he's going to want to walk and that's that's kind of how I did it for too many years I tried sneaking in on
• 28:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: My camera guy would be like, dude, there's no fucking way that this is gonna work.
• 28:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like telling you to, I'll sneak in there.
• 29:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, all right, I'm not going there.
• 29:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: And what do you know, I get busted, like, as soon as I get in within 50 yards, they start seeing me, it's just, the animals literally just pointing a paw at you and he's just like, I see him, other fucks right here, I don't know.
• 29:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I see him.
• 29:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Look at that.
• 29:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, it's just an expensive part and I love it so much, you know what I mean?
• 29:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: I love doing it so much.
• 29:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's been such a great outlet for me for like coming out of the NFL and something for me to like hyper focus on and just, you know, but it is, it's fucking expensive, man.
• 29:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Even first, I mean, I made a ton of money playing football and even something and I still, I'm like, I'm not gonna pay that much money.
• 29:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not gonna do it.
• 29:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like I'll pay this.
• 29:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna do this.
• 29:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'll count one time.
• 29:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: this one it's a one time thing for me.
• 29:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: I did a desert big horn sheet last year.
• 29:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: That was a one time thing for me.
• 29:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, you know, we've made it so nobody can do it.
• 29:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's not, it's not cool.
• 29:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: It sucks.
• 29:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Nobody gets to do it.
• 29:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the guys that do do it are just grinding an out on public land.
• 30:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just, those are the guys that I want to give an opportunity, like just give them a chance to come do something badass.
• 30:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I know we started with a turkey hunt.
• 30:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the reason why I picked a turkey ross is because it's the easiest, like, entry level hunt for somebody to do.
• 30:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think that's smart, by the way, because, you know, some of the shit that I see you on, obviously, were friends in real life.
• 30:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: Some of the shit that I see you on, and then I'm texting you back and forth with when you're on these hunts and you come back and empty handed.
• 30:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I know how hard it is.
• 30:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think a lot of people don't know how hard it is, but with a television show, it's different.
• 30:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: You have to present a pilots to where it's like, there's a beginning, middle and end.
• 30:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then at that end, if you're doing a hunting show, it better end with you killing something.
• 30:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I think you guys were smart and picking a turkey for the first one.
• 30:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Because some of these shoots, you wouldn't know how long your days are going to be.
• 30:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, oh.
• 30:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, so remember we were gonna do the bear, right?
• 30:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I said that's a bad idea.
• 30:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: I said it was a bad idea.
• 31:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I went on that bear hunt by myself, right?
• 31:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, how did that work out?
• 31:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: What was the end result?
• 31:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: If I want to, I should have took a rifle with me because these fucking bears, so listen, so I get, so the first, I had a new camera, I have a new camera guy that I've been working with, his name's Randy Rocker.
• 31:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's an awesome camera guy, awesome editor, and he's really good around in the mountains.
• 31:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: He does a lot of, the lot of work for like these big rifle companies.
• 31:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: So he's not really used to bow hunting.
• 31:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: So he's used to be in like set up
• 31:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's not used to being 30 yards from a fucking bear to the bear charge him.
• 31:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, it didn't charge us, but the first day, the weather sucked, right?
• 31:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was too warm.
• 31:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was just, if it's hot, bears are like us, man.
• 31:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: If it's hottest, fuck, they're just like going to stay in the shade.
• 31:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're not going to be out in the open.
• 31:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: So you're just looking for bears all day long and it just looks like
• 32:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're covered so much ground.
• 32:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: We were on horseback.
• 32:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was, it was, it was a, it was a really fun time.
• 32:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: But the first day we finally started to get a little sprinkler rain.
• 32:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm sitting there and I'm like, man, this is a perfect time for bear to step out.
• 32:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the camera guy goes, you mean like that one right there?
• 32:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: And there's a fucking bear coming right out of us.
• 32:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we boom, we go down and set up the wind's perfect.
• 32:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he's not a bow hunter.
• 32:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: So he doesn't understand.
• 32:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's used to be able to move around.
• 32:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: This bears coming and he just acts, he's like, I'm hiding behind a tree.
• 32:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: All this out is like my eyeball.
• 32:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like I'm just barely looking at like this because I'm waiting for him to come down through here so I can shoot him.
• 32:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he just like stops his tracks and looks, he's like, well fuck, I'm not going that way and he like, it doesn't big circle and gets our wind and bus.
• 32:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, what the fuck happened?
• 32:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I turned around and I, and Randy's like, I think he saw me.
• 32:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, well, what the fuck were you doing back there?
• 32:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's like, well, I couldn't see around you.
• 32:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I was like, stay at it up behind you.
• 33:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, so I'm on a tree.
• 33:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: You're just standing up with a camera at his hand to staring at the bear.
• 33:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was like, no wonder any fucking saw.
• 33:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: So that was like our first learning experience.
• 33:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then we go, Ross, we went four days without seeing another bear.
• 33:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh four long days I'm talking about hours and hours behind glass just looking when I say behind glass I mean just looking to your binoculars just trying to find one and then finally in the last day We find one and we bomb off this hill and we hike it was like a five or six mile hike through some nasty gnarly shit Uh-huh get to 60 yards on this bear finally and I'm about to draw my boat back in a here hold on
• 33:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, what?
• 33:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: I look, and he has no shot.
• 33:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: He can't see the bear, right?
• 33:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 33:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's like standing below me.
• 33:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I like wait from the get up.
• 33:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: And as soon as he gets up there, go to draw my bogey and the wind switches.
• 33:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the bear just fucking bolt out of there.
• 34:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I was like,
• 34:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, dude, good thing I didn't bring some fucking poor bastard out here.
• 34:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Did you get it?
• 34:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, I never got to draw my bow because I was waiting on the camera guy to get set up.
• 34:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, that's fucking way.
• 34:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so that's why it's, but I told him I said listen man, I said don't ever tell me to hold on.
• 34:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: I said if you get the shot great, if it's just me, if we have a like a hunter out here that we're trying to like get on film.
• 34:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's different, but if it's me, I don't give a shit if we get it on film.
• 34:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just trying to kill Bear, like, don't worry about it.
• 34:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's like, I know, man, I just want to do a good job for you.
• 34:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we did part one, we did, we set that up as part one.
• 34:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going back to the same spot, May 2nd.
• 34:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm going to try to do it again because I can't just take the defeat was too difficult.
• 34:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: I got to go back and finish it.
• 34:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: And for the camera man, he can get the aftermath after the bear shot.
• 34:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: So it's like, yeah, cool.
• 34:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like we did this.
• 34:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, don't worry about it.
• 34:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: And that was one of my biggest concerns when.
• 34:59
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• 35:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: probably in either the same exact shape as you are or in more shape than you are because they've got to carry around gear the entire time and perhaps they're carrying around a bunch of shit.
• 35:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're carrying around multiple lenses.
• 35:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're carrying around a tripod.
• 35:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, they're carrying a lot of shit and that's why that's why I think Randy's going to be really good for for the next episode because I want Joel to edit it, but I want Randy to film it because he's capable.
• 35:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: of being out there.
• 35:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's not a knock on Joel.
• 35:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's just not built for that shit.
• 35:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, look, our audience knows already.
• 36:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, it's all they know.
• 36:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was funny because it played was with us, too.
• 36:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: And there's a scene in there where I'm like, tell him, Clay, like, if you fuck this up, Clay, like, I'm going to shoot you.
• 36:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: I put him in a gilly suit and stuck him in a tree.
• 36:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't think as that guy even vented a gilly suit is entirely like no it was so funny though and you're just gonna sing Joel was so scared we were in the blind and Joel was I can't tell and Joel said listen dude these turkeys can see everything like if you fucking blank they'll see you so you're just seeing Joel in the blind he didn't like I don't think he realized it like he can't they can't they don't have x-ray vision they can't see through the blind he was so scared to move
• 36:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: His legs were going numb and it's so fucking funny.
• 36:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was dying.
• 36:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was fucking dying.
• 36:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, do you can move?
• 36:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's okay.
• 36:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: It can't see you in the blind.
• 36:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, but when you're up above this little screen, don't be fucking around too much, you know?
• 37:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: So he was so scared to move because he didn't want to fucking out, but it went perfect.
• 37:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Man, this bird, we called this bird and he came right down the, and Caleb just blasted him and high fives ran out there.
• 37:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Then we took the, and the great part is we took it.
• 37:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: We showed everybody how you processed that meat.
• 37:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: so we can eat it and we chopped it up, fried it up, made like turkey nuggets out of it.
• 37:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: It just, man, it was like everything that I thought it was better than I ever thought it would turn out.
• 37:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's amazing.
• 37:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: By the way, I saw Caleb a little after that and he said, man, it was the greatest time of my life and he goes, uh, what I didn't know, he was, he's a
• 37:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so you knew you and he was, you know, a huge fan and all that shit and it was like, even better, like, holy shit, what are the chances?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, that's cool.
• 37:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: Did he ask you questions too about, like, the Super Bowls and all that shit?
• 37:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Not until afterwards, and it was funny because you know how I am.
• 37:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, if I don't like you, I just won't say anything to you.
• 38:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 38:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: But if I like you, I'm just busking your balls a whole time.
• 38:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I was just giving Clay shit the whole time.
• 38:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like he had no idea that he was like the huge fan of the Denver Brock.
• 38:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't know that.
• 38:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like giving him shit and making fun of him the whole time because he's funny.
• 38:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's a funny guy.
• 38:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's great.
• 38:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just kept giving him a hard time.
• 38:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because he was like, he was all jacked up.
• 38:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: He wanted to do the bare run.
• 38:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: He was like, I want to film the bare run.
• 38:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: I want to go on that.
• 38:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he was breathing hard just getting in and out of the track.
• 38:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure.
• 38:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure he's a big dude, Caleb's a big dude, man, and for anybody who's not, you know, that in shape to track five, six miles and everything else, you don't realize what it really requires to get in that kind of shape to go hunting for that ship.
• 38:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and people think like, you know, haps, I have a good friend who's a, he's a sheep guide up in Wyoming and it's a once in a lifetime tag when people draw that sheep tag and they're you his average hunter is like 65 years old and he says sometimes he gets these guys that like can't even get on the fucking horse and
• 39:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's like, buddy, this is going to be a long fucking hunt, but he gets him.
• 39:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: He gets him on the horse, and he gets him up there, and I'll tell you a crazy story.
• 39:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: He told me, he had an elk hunter one time, it was a Texan, and his dream was to just kill a Wyoming elk, like he just like, that was like his dream.
• 39:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, he lied about his health issues and stuff on his, on his, on his release form, smart.
• 39:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he was up there with a bunch of his buddies, and he said, this guy was bigger around than
• 39:36
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• 39:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the guy gets all excited, runs up to the horse and they're like, well, where's your rifle?
• 39:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's like, oh, fuck, so you know, waddles back down to his tent and grabs his rifle, comes him back up and he's climbing on the horse, falls over dead, it's part of that stop it.
• 40:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, falls over he shits.
• 40:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Apparently, you had like some serious heart issue, um, that is, all of his friends kind of told them after we're like, yeah, he had a really bad heart issue and this is like his last chance to ever kill an alcan.
• 40:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, you know, they're, they're running joke was like, well, he's still chasing out, you know, like he's living his dream still, you know, so I do and what he loves.
• 40:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: So what do you, what do you say about that, I guess, but it is, that's why I think the turkey was a really good intro, you know, I think there's even out, there's other things that we can do.
• 40:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, that bear, this bear hunt that I do, as long as you can climb on a back of a meal,
• 40:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: You can do it, you know, and then the same thing with that that wagon, this hunt that I'm doing on this property and Wyoming, they have roads and trails built all through that thing so they can get you around on side by sides.
• 40:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I don't think that taking a bow hunter is probably going to be the what I do because it's such a small.
• 41:00
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• 41:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's very specific and you've got to have trained for a long time.
• 41:07
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• 41:10
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• 41:11
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• 41:12
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• 41:14
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• 41:16
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• 41:24
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• 41:52
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• 52:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: They don't they don't see that great They can see but they don't see that great especially when they're like all warmed up in the rut and they're you know chasing that chasing cows around and fighting each other
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And we were in that just a fucker for 30, 40 grand.
• 54:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, dude.
• 54:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: And imagine if you don't get the animal,
• 54:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: Then you keep going, then you go to pay the camera guys and all the other shit.
• 54:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's and then the edits after that Which is like the camera guys a thousand bucks a day at least.
• 54:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yep, out of minimum.
• 54:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it sucks and then that noise to God I can't get that noise out of my head
• 54:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: like that as they're tearing through it and you're just like, holy shit.
• 54:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: I couldn't imagine doing with a bow.
• 54:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: I've never gone hunting with a bow.
• 54:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: I've done them the backyard with friends and all that other shit, but nothing.
• 54:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Not to everybody.
• 54:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Get them out.
• 54:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think that every even if you're not a hunter and you're not into hunting and killing, I think that you should at least experience
• 55:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: the elk rut one time just get into like an elk rut where the elk are fucking rotten and fighting them and they just they'll get into a tree and just start ripping a tree apart with their antlers and they're screaming at each other back and forth and they're they're dicks are hard and they're pissing all over their own next it's fucking crazy it's like they're just fucking insane man it's the coolest thing you'll ever see
• 55:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I just say, I think everybody should just just explain, you could do that.
• 55:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: And if there's a place called SS Park here in Colorado, and if you've ever heard of that, these elk are just like pets basically.
• 55:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, if you go up there in September, you'll see them out there fucking going.
• 55:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Not all day.
• 55:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just scream in their heads off.
• 55:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's the coolest thing ever.
• 55:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's, man, it's just something everybody should get to experience.
• 55:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I'm really looking forward to my next thing I want to do is
• 55:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: On top of pin my hunt is I want to take some of my former teammates like I'm trying to talk a manual Sanders is a really good friend of mine.
• 56:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
• 56:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 56:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 56:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Why, you know, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a pro bull and an all pro and just a great dude and.
• 56:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's always like picking my brain about hunting because I know that he's like interested in.
• 56:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's from Texas originally, so he really is.
• 56:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's a country boy.
• 56:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's just never hunted and killed anything before and he's like, oh, he's picking my brain about it.
• 56:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm like, you know what, I was I was thinking about this one time I took him four wheeling, right?
• 56:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: We took side by side out.
• 56:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 56:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, he's a receiver.
• 56:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know how receivers are?
• 56:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: He shows up in Louis Vuitton.
• 56:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, God, dude.
• 56:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: He was not prepared for any of that shit.
• 56:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're in a Louis Vuitton jersey.
• 56:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's like $1,200 share.
• 56:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: And all of this is gonna give fucked up.
• 56:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: It is this guy fucking ruined in the night.
• 56:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he was like, I told you, I was like, dude, I told you it was gonna be dirty.
• 57:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: He said, well, thought it was gonna be dusty.
• 57:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, dude, why are you wearing Louis Vuitton?
• 57:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: So my next thing I want to do is I want to take guys like that down to Texas and go on like pig hunts and shit like that You know just to just to get them out and see how wild it is.
• 57:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Sure You know that would be really fun and then you know Abby's that was another one of Abby's ideas and then another idea of hers is Take your wife hunting because there's a lot most hunters their wives aren't into it.
• 57:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, they hate it
• 57:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: They fucking hate, they hate it because their husbands are gone, and they're like, home alone with their fucking kids, and you know, that goes, it's just, you know, and they're like, oh, you're at must be having a great fucking time.
• 57:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, yeah, I had a great time getting my dick driven that they're hiking 20 miles not to kill anything.
• 57:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's like, uh, so she had this idea of taking, uh, taking wives in their husbands and filming them.
• 57:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: That interaction just to see like how funny that shit would be, you know, because I took her turkey hunting last year and No bullshit Ross We're hunting turkeys and I told you they could see everything.
• 58:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: She comes out with this bright orange hat on I'm like what?
• 58:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Orange booze I was like honey you can't wear that.
• 58:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: She's like what if it's cold I'm like a whole put something that's like not a fucking bright orange
• 58:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, I'm right here, sign, I'm, you know, and she was funny because I filmed it all with my phone because I thought it was hilarious.
• 58:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: She came out three different times, three different outfits.
• 58:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: She was wearing Dior sunglasses.
• 58:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, sparkly shiny Dior sunglasses.
• 58:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Nope, nope, nope, that's not gonna work.
• 58:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I think that doing stuff like that is like super interesting for people and could just be fun for the series.
• 58:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, put my hand is where the focus is at right now.
• 58:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I stopped doing the podcast even because,
• 58:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: my heart really wasn't in it man I love the hunt yeah and and uh you know but i was good at podcasting i just didn't love it you know you know you know how it is yeah you got to love because you got to love and you got to love what you do every day i just had this conversation that chat with somebody today and um and i said look man you got to wake up every morning in love what you do if you don't it's not going to be good whatever it is right's whether it's podcasting hunting uh working out uh relationships
• 59:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: all of it is something you have to want to enjoy every single day and that's all that it really is and you personally love hunting more than life itself.
• 59:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like I've never met anybody besides Cam Haynes.
• 59:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think that love is hunting more than you do and you're in a fortunate position where you get to do all that stuff and say all right great I can afford to go on this this hunt and do all you know all the fun stuff that that's I've always dreamed of But you also worked your ass off to get there Yeah, a lot of people don't realize that either so to me.
• 59:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was just like yeah, dude
• 59:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: you know, continue and have a fucking blast because also, you know, people don't realize they see the show or the NFL show whatever it is we're doing.
• 1:00:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: And they're like, I wonder if they're friends in real life.
• 1:00:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, the answer is yes.
• 1:00:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: And also, I know the hard shit you've been going through over the last year with your mom and everything else.
• 1:00:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: And the audience was asking, what happened in Derrick and I was like, look, when the time is right, I'm sure Derrick will share it with the rest of the world.
• 1:00:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: It is not my job to speak out of school and say what's going on in Derrick's personal life.
• 1:00:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: Since you did post about it, I feel like I can ask you about it on here.
• 1:00:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: How are you since your mom passed?
• 1:00:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: I know that was extremely difficult, and you were going through some shits, and I had texted you, and I said, hey man, I lost a father, and the grieving process is weird for a parent.
• 1:00:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: I would say more so than a friend or, you know, an acquaintance or a cousin or whatever it is, because your mom and your dad are with you for your whole life, and it's something
• 1:00:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: you don't really know what to tell people.
• 1:00:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, I know that you took some time off personally for that.
• 1:01:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: How are you doing since that?
• 1:01:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm doing, I'm doing good.
• 1:01:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: I've, you know, a little backstory, you know, my mom and I had a really, our relationship was, was estranged, because really, she hasn't been in my life since I was 11 years old.
• 1:01:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, she's just been in and out, you know, she struggled with alcoholism and drug abuse and just she just wasn't like a very loving mother.
• 1:01:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I always felt like a lot of resentment towards her, because, you know, I didn't have a father, you know, I had to step that for a while, he was abusive, you know.
• 1:01:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, I just never felt like I was protected by my mom, like you're supposed to be like every son,
• 1:01:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, even, I played with a lot of dudes from the other man, like, they none of them had fathers, yep, most of them didn't have fathers, but they always had a mom, you know, and I didn't have that and I was just pissed off about it forever, just so mad, you know, because, especially once I had kids, because I was like, I can't imagine letting something like that happen to my daughter, you know, I can't imagine like just not giving a fuck about my kids and, you know, as I got older and then, you know, what happened was like, you know, I got baptized.
• 1:02:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, became a follower of Christ and put that, they just taught me how to forgive people.
• 1:02:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: And really, I just, I was able to forgive her and I started to have a little bit of a relationship with her, you know, just like with a bent arm, you know?
• 1:02:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just keep her head with a bent arm because if you let her do close, she'll start to manipulate and that's just how she is.
• 1:02:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: And she'll try to get something out of you.
• 1:02:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's just how she is.
• 1:02:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: She can't help herself.
• 1:02:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: She's just a survivor.
• 1:02:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: She survives.
• 1:02:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: at it by any means.
• 1:02:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's how she is and she's very self-ish and doesn't really think about anybody else but herself.
• 1:02:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: But when she got sick, she had COPD.
• 1:02:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: She was only 57.
• 1:02:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh wow.
• 1:02:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: She had bad COPD and you know, I was supposed to go, I was going to go home and visit her.
• 1:03:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, all right, I'm going to come and see you, you know, while you're, you know, you're sick, this is not, but I was supposed to go right after Christmas.
• 1:03:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was going to go
• 1:03:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: We had planned as a family, we had planned a Costa Rica trip with our kids with Tatum and Roxie.
• 1:03:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we took them down to Costa Rica and as I'm getting on the plane to fly back from Costa Rica, I get this call that like, hey, your mom's not gonna make it to the night.
• 1:03:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, well, what?
• 1:03:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, the last time I talked to a nurse, she said she's gonna be fine.
• 1:03:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: And while she's not, she's not gonna be fine.
• 1:03:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: And they were just pumping her full of morphine.
• 1:03:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because she couldn't breathe, like, you know, see anybody has, I didn't know COPD was that painful, but I guess it's like super painful.
• 1:03:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's in your lungs and your chest, right?
• 1:03:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:03:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: They said she only had a quarter-sized piece of her lung that was working still.
• 1:03:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like a quarter, a quarter, a quarter, so she's every breath was just like pain.
• 1:04:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: So from the airport, my face ponder,
• 1:04:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: And she always wanted to meet her granddaughter, Roxy.
• 1:04:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so I let her face time with Roxy.
• 1:04:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I got the face timer.
• 1:04:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I told her that I forgave her.
• 1:04:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then I loved her.
• 1:04:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then she told me that she was really proud of me.
• 1:04:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then I broke a generational curse.
• 1:04:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
• 1:04:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: She said, I'm so proud of you.
• 1:04:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: And you broke a generational curse.
• 1:04:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then
• 1:04:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: than later that, on Christmas Eve, I was in church.
• 1:04:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I got the phone call that she died.
• 1:04:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I just like, I didn't think it would affect me like that because we hadn't been so close, but there's a part of you that always thinks that your mom's gonna come around.
• 1:04:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like eventually, she's gonna come around, figure out and we're gonna have that mother-son relationship that you always wanted.
• 1:04:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: And when that's like a definite god, it's now it's definite.
• 1:05:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's like not gonna happen.
• 1:05:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: It just hit me hard.
• 1:05:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I just, man, I just broke down in tears.
• 1:05:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I was just like, I just folded, you know, I'm so upset.
• 1:05:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I felt like I felt like a shitty son, because, you know, it's still my mom.
• 1:05:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe I should have done this.
• 1:05:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, shit, I, you know how did you start blaming yourself?
• 1:05:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Figuring out what could I have done different
• 1:05:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, and then the whole situation was so fucked up.
• 1:05:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like she was living and she was living in this, like she has, she's a cat lady, she loves cats, right?
• 1:05:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: So she's living in the shitty little fucking house and right off the higher river and one of those little shit towns, you know what I'm talking about?
• 1:05:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, dude, those are, I mean, it's a one bedroom, you know, family, you're looking at eight, nine hundred square feet.
• 1:05:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: piece of shit.
• 1:05:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: She's 57.
• 1:05:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: She's got some boyfriend that's like in her 70s.
• 1:06:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: And there's, I'm getting calls while she's dying.
• 1:06:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm getting calls from my uncle.
• 1:06:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, hey, you know, these people are in here.
• 1:06:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're still in her shit.
• 1:06:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, what?
• 1:06:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: So the cops get called because my uncle and this guy are getting in fist fights and shit.
• 1:06:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm talking to the cops and the cops are like, and I'm talking to the nurse.
• 1:06:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the nurse is like, we need to move her to back to hospice.
• 1:06:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I hear, and I, so I tell him to put her in the hospital.
• 1:06:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, all right, take her to hospice.
• 1:06:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: And she was like, that's the best thing for it.
• 1:06:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Dude, I guess she fucking threw a giant fit.
• 1:06:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like flip the fuck out.
• 1:06:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Did not want to leave.
• 1:06:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Wanted to die in her own house.
• 1:06:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just freaked out so I felt so bad that I like made that decision and she like when she was like it freaking the I guess you were screening like going nuts and I felt really bad about that and then I felt really bad about all this white trash bullshit that was going on and I just meant that's why I just I just had to take a step back and take a break from everything and.
• 1:07:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: because I just wasn't in my right mind and had to do some work and things that I thought I had healed myself from, I've clearly had healed from.
• 1:07:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I feel way better about it now.
• 1:07:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like I have days where I'm like, because what happened, Ross, is I stopped seeing her as this neglecting mom and I started seeing her as like this young girl, right?
• 1:07:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because I had daughters.
• 1:07:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: So that's how I was seeing her in that way and I felt so bad because she was abused as it was,
• 1:07:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, brutally abused as a child too.
• 1:07:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, she was, you know, her stepdad raped her and she was, she had all kinds of abuse her whole life was just full of abuse.
• 1:07:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I just started feeling so bad for and that empathy, right, like I started feeling empathetic towards her and that just like hurt me even worse.
• 1:07:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so it took me a while to like, I just, I couldn't focus on anything else.
• 1:08:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then on top of that, we're going through this fucking home build that's taken four years now.
• 1:08:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we're on top of each other in this little rental until we get in there.
• 1:08:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: So all this shit was going on.
• 1:08:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's kind of what I had to take a step back because I needed to do some work on myself before I could get my shit together and I have.
• 1:08:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: I've gotten my shit together and came back around.
• 1:08:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: And all I had to do was go to a couple of music festivals and melt my face off a couple times and now I'm good.
• 1:08:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and it's a weird thing.
• 1:08:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: So my father died when he was 59 and told his story on the show, I don't know, maybe over a year ago, or something like that.
• 1:08:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I got a call out and know where, same thing.
• 1:08:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: I had said on that show, where my regret was, I didn't get the chance that you had.
• 1:08:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't get to say goodbye on a FaceTime call or anything else.
• 1:08:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I wish that I had, he had called.
• 1:08:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't answer the phone that day.
• 1:08:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'll talk to him another day, no big deal, and at 59, you don't expect your parents to die in their 50s for Christ's sake.
• 1:09:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: You're just like, all right, well, they're living in who he is.
• 1:09:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then when it happens,
• 1:09:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, you get the call or whatever it is and you're so shocked and stunned by it and then yes, you're immediately filled with this weird regret where you're like all right well maybe I should have done this this this this this and you realize over time that it's just kind of life and what they went through hopefully you can Teach your children and you're you know your family to to live a different way and that's
• 1:09:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: you're taking lessons and kind of passing them down to the next generation and hopefully breaking that curse like you said or the cycle or whatever the fuck it is and then instilling that in the next person what's wild to me though is that you were able to make it through all of this go to the NFL have this massively successful career and then come out of it on the other side because I know the relationship you have with your wife I know the relationship you have with your kids we've all been a dinner and hung out together a
• 1:10:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it's actually shocking to hear, I would have said you probably came from a great family and this was normal, but in truth, you fought your way out of that.
• 1:10:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't know that about you.
• 1:10:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, and it's funny Ross because I, the, I live in this, the area I live in is called cherry hills, right?
• 1:10:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, great take houses, like it's just a lot of a lot of old money over here, right?
• 1:10:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: And people always say that to me that like, man, it's, you just don't seem like you came from that.
• 1:10:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: And now like, I said, well, I'll tell you, and it's, I never say this to them.
• 1:10:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: But it's, I always tell them like, when I walk into these places, I, I feel like an imposter.
• 1:10:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't feel like I belong in this motherfucker at all.
• 1:11:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: you know I know I don't look I got tattoos and dreadlocks I know that I know that it's like the first time but like my mentality is so different just from the way I was I have brought up that you know you can't it's so hard to reverse that thinking you know of like
• 1:11:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: that's survival.
• 1:11:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's like a survivalist mindset where these people have never had there's a bunch of shit.
• 1:11:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: No.
• 1:11:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, no, they're like, they're the upset cause they didn't get a fucking Lamborghini.
• 1:11:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know.
• 1:11:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, they're paying 200 grand to join a country club, you know?
• 1:11:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's just fucking crazy.
• 1:11:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's just a whole different world, man.
• 1:11:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: And when I see this, when I see these people going through like crisis is on like, you guys are fucking so soft.
• 1:11:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's unreal.
• 1:11:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, but I've met a lot of good people as well, you know, who have, you know, who have done it on their own and came up that way, but they're all of different because did the nepotism is unbelievable how these people act.
• 1:12:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like it's fucking crazy how they act.
• 1:12:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: And you see it, you know?
• 1:12:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I see it all the time and like, you know, I didn't have a rough childhood.
• 1:12:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: However, we didn't have, you know, like a crazy amount of money or anything else.
• 1:12:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like if we like red lobster,
• 1:12:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was like our big meal, like for the Friday night, it was a fucking big deal.
• 1:12:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: Sure, yes, cheesecake factory, like all of garden, things like that.
• 1:12:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was a big deal, and my parents, they rented a house so I could get into the school district.
• 1:12:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: They only went rent in the neighborhood, and there was some fucking dickhead kid who came up and told me, and I was like, you know, there's even ones that are rent in this fucking neighborhood and blah, blah, blah, all right, and I was like, fuck you, and I'd ask my parents.
• 1:12:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, is this true?
• 1:12:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: And they're like, yeah, we don't have the money.
• 1:12:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: And any of these people have, like, this fucking, you know.
• 1:12:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, oh, shit.
• 1:12:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it was kind of a big wake-up call, but also it made me more proud of what they did.
• 1:12:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then two years after college, I'm starring in my first movie, I'm the lead, and all this other shit, and I get invited to this huge fancy Oscar party.
• 1:13:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't have a fucking suits or any of that bullshit, you know?
• 1:13:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so I to go out and get it, kind of fake my way through it, and then figure it out, and then I'm with the biggest celebrities on the planet.
• 1:13:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I'm talking like your top 100 of all time.
• 1:13:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Tom Cruise, Ben Affleck, Matt Damon, everybody's there, or whatever.
• 1:13:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I walk outside to have a cigarette.
• 1:13:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just looking at this huge lawn and pool.
• 1:13:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: There's big fat dude next to me.
• 1:13:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think he's, you know, like me.
• 1:13:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm smoking cigarettes with his dude, and I go, man.
• 1:13:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: Imagine I'm in a house like this one day.
• 1:13:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: This is fucking insane.
• 1:13:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: And we're at this Oscar party, whatever.
• 1:13:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: And he just starts laughing and he goes, yeah, it wouldn't be something, you know, and I go, yeah, dude.
• 1:13:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I go, this guy, man.
• 1:13:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, all this shit.
• 1:13:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it's just him living in this house.
• 1:13:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, fuck.
• 1:13:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: I go as amazing, whatever, right?
• 1:13:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: And this was, there's no life.
• 1:13:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: So it's the Oscar party on a Saturday night.
• 1:13:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: I watched the Oscars on a Sunday night, which is the next night.
• 1:13:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm just watching like a normal fan, you know, on TV.
• 1:13:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: And they go, and the Academy Award for Best Director goes to Peter Jackson.
• 1:14:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'd never seen Lord of the Rings.
• 1:14:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know who Peter Jackson is.
• 1:14:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: Nothing, and it's him.
• 1:14:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: Who goes up and gets the best Oscar.
• 1:14:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, oh my God, dude.
• 1:14:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like such an asshole.
• 1:14:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: Just bumming his cigarette going, cause you imagine I'm in a house like this fucking rich dude.
• 1:14:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: And blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:14:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: And you're like, yeah, you're unprepared for all this shit.
• 1:14:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: And you feel like an impostor, and you're like, Oh, yeah, you do.
• 1:14:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: You really do.
• 1:14:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: You really do.
• 1:14:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was, I was, I golfed with the guy the other day.
• 1:14:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: His family is so wealthy and he's an oppressive dude.
• 1:14:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's got his like masters and finance.
• 1:14:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Then he went and got a law degree and saw some dude.
• 1:14:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: I had no clue who he was, right?
• 1:14:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just think he's a normal fucking guy.
• 1:14:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, he pulled up in like a regular Tesla, like you played around a golf and we got along great and we're fucking hanging out and he's asking me about my childhood and everything and, you know, something got brought up about flying, you know.
• 1:14:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, yeah dude, I never flew on a fucking plane so I got the college.
• 1:15:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, they put us on a, on my first time flying.
• 1:15:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: We flew to normal home and got our ass beat by the center.
• 1:15:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, that was, that was the first flight.
• 1:15:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: That was my first flight.
• 1:15:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was in college.
• 1:15:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: I never even been on a fucking, we didn't do it.
• 1:15:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm from the Ohio Valley.
• 1:15:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: We don't leave the Ohio Valley.
• 1:15:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Nope.
• 1:15:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like a big, a big deal is going to fucking Pittsburgh.
• 1:15:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's 40 minutes away.
• 1:15:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
• 1:15:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 1:15:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: And by the way, nobody makes it out of there.
• 1:15:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they live there if they're whole life.
• 1:15:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: no one makes it out of there and he's like he starts talking, he's like, you know, let man, he's like, I was like, I was like, what was your childhood?
• 1:15:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, he's like, honestly, man, nothing like yours.
• 1:15:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, oh, yeah, when's your first time flying?
• 1:15:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's like, I'll tell you this.
• 1:15:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: When I was a kid, I thought everybody flew private.
• 1:15:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: boy, no.
• 1:15:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, dude, seriously.
• 1:15:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he was like, yeah, and I was like, that's fucking crazy.
• 1:15:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then he's, we've become really good friends now.
• 1:15:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, the shit that his family does is incredible.
• 1:15:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like,
• 1:15:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: They were like, well, they had a limestone mine back in the day that he saw it for stock and Pfizer and just fucking crushed.
• 1:16:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely crushed.
• 1:16:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now he's like third generation and he's just like growing the wealth even more.
• 1:16:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's fucking cool.
• 1:16:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Man, it's cool to be around people like that.
• 1:16:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: But it's also like, man, what would that be like, you know, what would that be like to just not have, I know what it's like to not have a safety net, you know, and they don't know what that's like.
• 1:16:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, it's just a whole different feeling.
• 1:16:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I've asked all these investors, and I started the top of this show, this Dan's Meet with One for Hearty, if it's like, dude, you meet with these guys, and all of them say the same thing.
• 1:16:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: I go, when I ask them, same as a podcast, I'm like, what is the day that you know that you made it?
• 1:16:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: And everybody says the same thing.
• 1:16:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: The day that I never looked at my bank account again.
• 1:16:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but I knew why that I never had to look at my bank account again.
• 1:16:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: I knew that I made it.
• 1:16:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, interesting.
• 1:16:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, I don't know what that's like yet.
• 1:16:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: I have no idea what that's like, and it's got bless you.
• 1:16:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: And that sounds fun and all that other shit.
• 1:17:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I was in a similar stage when I went to Ohio State with finding wealth for the first time and meeting wealthy people and Neppo babies and all that other shit.
• 1:17:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: One of my roommates had a fucking plane.
• 1:17:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: He was a really for Christ's sake since we went.
• 1:17:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: we went on dates.
• 1:17:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was me, him, and we took two girls out to dinner.
• 1:17:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: We flew from Columbus to Cincinnati.
• 1:17:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: So whatever that five star restaurant is on the river up there in Cincinnati, and then we flew home after that and I was like, oh my god dude, is this how you're pulling ass on like a weekly basis?
• 1:17:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it goes, oh yeah, dude, isn't this the best and I go, God damn it being rich is awesome.
• 1:17:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I try it really is.
• 1:17:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: It really is, and I'm trying the rest of my life to be like, okay, cool, I gotta get to that level.
• 1:17:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's go, but, well, the funny thing about wealth is like every time you hit like a new level, you like get introduced to like these people that are like on a whole another fucking, like, can you, I can't imagine what it's like to just fly around on a private plane all the fucking, like every, like, oh yeah, let's just get on the jet and go to a fucking Aspen.
• 1:18:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: this week.
• 1:18:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: What a dream.
• 1:18:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: What a dream.
• 1:18:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: I have a house in I have a ski and ski out of an aspirin.
• 1:18:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Then I have a place in Florida.
• 1:18:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I have a big ranch in Wyoming.
• 1:18:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, are you fucking, like, people live like that.
• 1:18:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:18:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: And they fucking fly all over the place under jet.
• 1:18:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: And people listening right now are probably like Duke Dirk made a fucking good Julian ours in the NFL is like, hey, a private jet and owning it is a whole another level.
• 1:18:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's three to five for that private jet, then you got to maintain it and all that other shit and everything that comes with it.
• 1:18:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: You would blow half of your fucking savings accounts, just trying to keep up with this one goddamn project.
• 1:18:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just trying to keep up a fucking jet.
• 1:18:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's crazy.
• 1:18:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, insane.
• 1:18:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then like the trips that they get on, they're like, oh yeah, we're going to
• 1:18:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to like, come on.
• 1:18:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, what the fuck is that?
• 1:18:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Is that Kentucky or something?
• 1:18:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're like, no, no, it's in Italy.
• 1:18:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's where George Clooney lives.
• 1:18:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know that one, you're like, oh, okay, go.
• 1:19:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, what the fuck?
• 1:19:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, or they're like, oh, we're going to like, give an example, because you know, Abby and I go to EDC and Vegas every year, right?
• 1:19:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: And we were looking at like table men prices for like, because Omni has opened on a beach club.
• 1:19:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
• 1:19:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we were looking at tableman prices.
• 1:19:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is one of the fuckers are, I'm like, who the fuck is spending 50 grand for one afternoon?
• 1:19:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 1:19:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, dude.
• 1:19:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like a 50 grand for a four, it's going to be four hours.
• 1:19:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're there for four hours.
• 1:19:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's absolutely, there's a guy in the chat who goes, you ain't no Joe Rogan buddy and I go, no shit.
• 1:19:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: Are YouTube channels throttled?
• 1:19:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: All, you know, we signed a video to do a Spotify, which is fine, but I'm like, yeah, do Joe can do that.
• 1:19:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.
• 1:19:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: And you know, you know the money, like the scales of all this shit and you're like, cool man, I make decent money.
• 1:19:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, I'm not on a Joe Rogan level, not even fucking close.
• 1:19:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not signed $100 million for fucking Spotify deals, all right?
• 1:19:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:19:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't sign 100 million dollar fucking NFL deals either right and people don't understand You're like there's levels to it and oh yeah, I mean it was even on the NFL It was like there was Vaughn Miller and fucking Peyton Manning and then there's like the rest of us Right You know it was fucking crazy like Vaughn I remember the one offseason Vaughn was like, oh, yeah I'm going to Europe and I'm gonna follow Drake around and I'm like what?
• 1:20:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're like, oh, okay, for the whole summer, or just like now I just flew, I just flew, I just got on a jet and flew over there and we fucking fall them around.
• 1:20:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: We just went to all of his shows wherever he was at in Europe and party in that fucking area.
• 1:20:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, well, how much did that fucking cost?
• 1:20:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: He was like, it's like a million bucks in flights.
• 1:20:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, what the fuck?
• 1:20:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, no dude, no, no, no, no.
• 1:20:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then like, when you gamble with these guys, they're like fucking spending 20 grand a hand, like it's nothing.
• 1:20:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, I'm sure Vaughn Miller was just dropping.
• 1:21:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: He was probably all I roll a room just drop in 10k a hand Do it again.
• 1:21:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: $20,000 a hand.
• 1:21:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right.
• 1:21:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like it's fucking nothing.
• 1:21:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and way when sometimes you lose this sometimes
• 1:21:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: But he like he like said a little limit like all right.
• 1:21:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: I watched him do not the first time I ever went to Vegas my work here I watched his mother fucker loose Four twenty thousand dollar hands back to back to back to back to back.
• 1:21:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it was like all right.
• 1:21:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's go We got up and left and I was like Fuck just happened.
• 1:21:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's more than somebody makes in a year a lot of people in a year and it's now gone
• 1:21:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then you see, I know we're talking about, like, wealth and how, like, clothes, the money that people spend on designer clothes.
• 1:21:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: is fucking mind-blowing.
• 1:21:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: It blows my fucking mind.
• 1:21:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: When I see somebody wearing a $1,700 tank top, I'm like, what the fuck is that?
• 1:21:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's nuts.
• 1:21:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: And people like, I got this, I'm wearing this gold watch right now, and people are like, holy shit, dude, what did you do?
• 1:22:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: What I was like, this is the Casio, it's rubber.
• 1:22:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: This is, you know, the rubber Casio G-Shock.
• 1:22:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, this is like 80 bucks.
• 1:22:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: 90 bucks, and they sent it to me for free for Christ's sakes.
• 1:22:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: I go, it's painted gold, but this is rubber-dude, it bends.
• 1:22:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's all that is.
• 1:22:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, it's hilarious, and it's from the 80s.
• 1:22:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: But, yeah, I could never justify that type of shit.
• 1:22:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I don't, man, there's limits that I have to spending, or I'm like, I'm sorry, I just can't justify this.
• 1:22:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's fucking retarded.
• 1:22:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's, it's, and there's, I'm, I'm all for, I'll spend money on experiences.
• 1:22:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: So like when it comes to like an experience like a like I said it would go to you see every year, right?
• 1:22:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I will splurge on a fucking table at the festival because I'm going to be there from 8 p.m. until 8 a.m.
• 1:22:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I'll spend I'll get a group together and we'll all pitch in five grand a piece.
• 1:22:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
• 1:22:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: But you can do and I'll do and I'll do that and then I'll spit and I'll have to spend another couple.
• 1:22:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'll spend another couple thousand just in my room and I'm food and everything that whatever but like
• 1:23:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's also my wife's birthday weekend.
• 1:23:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: So it's like a whole fucking celebration.
• 1:23:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'll do that because it's an experience.
• 1:23:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
• 1:23:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: And trust me, when I first got my first big payday, I did do dumb shit.
• 1:23:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: I went bought a fucking stupid big walk and a fucking Cuban link diamond out chain.
• 1:23:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: My fucking dream really, you fucking moron dude.
• 1:23:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is an idiot.
• 1:23:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: I traded that chain in for my wife's engagement ring though.
• 1:23:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: So it all worked out.
• 1:23:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's smart.
• 1:23:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's smart.
• 1:23:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now, never, I'll never get the money for the watch because it's got fucking diamonds in it.
• 1:23:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's the that's the weird thing and then since you brought it up in an engagement before you get out of here, I got to ask it just got announced that your body, your beef fry, Travis Kelsey's getting married to Taylor Swift on July 3rd.
• 1:23:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: I would have met, I mean you guys been best friends forever and grew up together on that stuff.
• 1:23:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: I would imagine you'll probably either be in the wedding or at the wedding or something.
• 1:24:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'll be there.
• 1:24:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, great, because when you introduce us to him when we're at the Denver game, God Damn is there a nicer dude on the planet than him?
• 1:24:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, Travis is the best.
• 1:24:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's the best.
• 1:24:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's hard.
• 1:24:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's hard to hate that fucking guy, man.
• 1:24:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's just he's good looking and funny and cool and you're in a badass and you're like, God Damn it, man.
• 1:24:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: I wanted to hate you, but I just can't do it.
• 1:24:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, dude, he's got so much slagger somewhere else.
• 1:24:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's just pooped.
• 1:24:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Nothing affects that dude.
• 1:24:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Nothing affects that fucking dude, man.
• 1:24:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: He just doesn't get like, it's funny because Jason is the opposite.
• 1:24:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Jason's like super emotional and gets fucking crazy mad and shit like Travis just like, yeah, whatever.
• 1:24:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: He seems to be fired up and he's competitive, right?
• 1:24:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like in a competitive situation, but like for the most part, he does not give a fuck about anything.
• 1:24:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like he just does not care.
• 1:24:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: I've got two boys and they're each like that.
• 1:24:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: One of them's super emotional, the other one is in.
• 1:24:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: The other one wants to kill people on a daily basis and and he says fucked up shit.
• 1:25:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: My wife's not here today, so I can say the story, but like
• 1:25:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: We were playing soccer and football at the same time and I could only coach one of them due to my schedule So I'm coaching soccer and I see this kid that he's guarding and it's just face just goes white And he whispered something to him So at half time when he comes over I was like, hey, what did you say to that kid and he just goes he's seven and he's whispered in his ear I see dead people
• 1:25:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I go, what?
• 1:25:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, like, I, I put, I screen all the movies and all that other stuff, and I'm like, hey, dude, we've never seen the M. Knight Shyamalan movie together.
• 1:25:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, and I was like, I've never, like, that's too scary for you.
• 1:25:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: I go, where did you hear that?
• 1:25:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: And he goes, yeah, it's, it's in a Kendrick Lamar song.
• 1:25:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I was like,
• 1:25:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I was like, which one, and I was like, you know, we play it, but I played like the ones without the curse words in it.
• 1:25:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 1:25:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: And sure enough, that's the top of, uh, they not like us, which was like the biggest song in the world last year.
• 1:26:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 1:26:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: And that first opening was that.
• 1:26:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I go, man, as much as I could, I would love to punish you now.
• 1:26:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: The fact that you thought of that, and knew it freak out the other team.
• 1:26:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's fucking awesome.
• 1:26:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: Dude, god damn.
• 1:26:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: I loved it.
• 1:26:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: I loved it.
• 1:26:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's seven, but he wants to kill people.
• 1:26:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: My older son is more emotional.
• 1:26:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: And he thinks about things when he's out on the field.
• 1:26:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: Versus just my other one, just a beast who wants to just kill and pillage.
• 1:26:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: And all of the stuff it all day long.
• 1:26:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I get it.
• 1:26:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now as the boy in the show, we get to the drinking bro of the week, which is someone who has inspired you, helped to become the person you are today.
• 1:26:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: We never did that on drinking bro sports, but you've been on this show before, which is like to give drinking bro the week two.
• 1:26:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I'm going to give it to a guy who's running for governor in Colorado here.
• 1:26:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: His name's Victor Marx.
• 1:26:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, you've been in a lot of his events.
• 1:26:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we've gotten pretty close.
• 1:26:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he's just an impressive guy.
• 1:27:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he doesn't really let anything get to him.
• 1:27:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he's got an uphill battle obviously here in Colorado.
• 1:27:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: But he's just been a really great mentor and a really good friend.
• 1:27:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he's really just doing things for the right reason.
• 1:27:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I'd like to give it to Victor.
• 1:27:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's awesome.
• 1:27:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Is he on the Vembers election?
• 1:27:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he'll be, he'll be the Republic, I think he's going to, he still has to win the Republican nomination.
• 1:27:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, is it?
• 1:27:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: What is your primary is in Colorado?
• 1:27:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's November.
• 1:27:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, gotcha.
• 1:27:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:27:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:27:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: So he's got to, he's got to win November and then, you know, you know, it's crazy.
• 1:27:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: They said they have to race 30 million just for the governor race.
• 1:27:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: 100% Colorado is one of those states where if you lose it for the like the Democratic party That's a big fucking no no and so there they'll spend a lot of money in Colorado There's been a shit toned down in Texas right now to try to get a new Senator in and things like that Which I don't think it will happen now sadly.
• 1:28:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think it will happen in
• 1:28:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: probably eight years just because of everybody from california that's moving here uh... but it's calerado you guys are fucking going through it man it feels like calerado might be the next minutes soda dude it's bad it's really bad here and
• 1:28:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: And you know, that's kind of what my wife and I have talked about, you know, I beg her to like, let's get the hell out of here all the time, you know, but I feel hopeful with Victor because he's electable, huh, right, he's electable and yeah, if I encourage anybody to go go watch his story, he's got a Sean Ryan podcast to okay, go watch his go watch his story man, he he comes from a really rough childhood.
• 1:28:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Then he was a Marine and then he started ministry and then he started going and he goes into like the worst places in the world and rescues kids Oh, man, that's amazing with his own team with no air support anything and just a fucking incredible guy man just just a great human and and you know he just He's he's really are only hoped to win to win the state and take it back because There's enough people that are getting sick of the shit
• 1:29:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: And you can tell, yep, but they're still like, I was downtown trying to get petitions.
• 1:29:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: We had to get signatures just to get them on the ballot, you know?
• 1:29:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's usually like 200,000 or something.
• 1:29:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:29:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:29:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then I was down in, uh,
• 1:29:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was down in downtown Denver and like a bunch of people were coming in.
• 1:29:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: You have to be a registered Republican to like sign your name, right?
• 1:29:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: There was a bunch of independence and I'm like, well, why are you an independent?
• 1:29:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're like, because I'm afraid if I register as a Republican, I won't have a job.
• 1:29:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
• 1:29:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's a real thing.
• 1:29:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: It is a real terrified to lose their job over their political affiliation.
• 1:29:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's bullshit.
• 1:29:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: I would not be afraid to be persecuted because of your fucking whatever I don't care what religion you are and I don't care what fucking political party you're with like what is the character of the person that's what matters and that are you good at the job it shouldn't matter who if you're a Republican or a Democrat like that is unbelievable to me But then there was also a bunch of these independence coming in there and they were like they don't know anything about Victor so they're asking me questions and they're like what does your stance on ice
• 1:30:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, I don't know, are you in a legal immigrant?
• 1:30:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Are you here illegally?
• 1:30:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Then you don't have to shit the worry about.
• 1:30:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: And they're like, well, my friends are all, my friends that are Hispanic are all really worried scared.
• 1:30:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, are they here illegally?
• 1:30:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:30:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, no.
• 1:30:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, well, they don't have to shit the worry about.
• 1:30:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: What the fuck are they worried about?
• 1:30:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, what do you care?
• 1:30:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like it doesn't matter.
• 1:30:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: And by the way, I was one of those people.
• 1:30:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: So in California, because what I was doing in Hollywood, too, I was, I left the box and checked.
• 1:30:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I wasn't Republican or Democrat or anything for that exact reason.
• 1:30:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was afraid going through what, you know, what I knew I was going through and it wasn't nearly as bad as it is.
• 1:30:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: today as it was then, but I am hopeful, like I know I told you in the past, hey, move to taxes, like you'll be happier with all the people that are moving from California and everything else here, I don't know that you would be.
• 1:31:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think your best shot is maybe to find the community that you love and then stay there and try to change it from the inside and go from there.
• 1:31:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: I really do, so I know you love Colorado, I know you love Denver and I know the people love you there because every time we go out,
• 1:31:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: For Christ 6, they're giving Wolf Shouts and all that other shit.
• 1:31:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: So like, I think your best shot is to stay there and try to fix it like you're doing.
• 1:31:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: Because obviously I see on Instagram every day given speeches and all that other stuff trying to help these guys out.
• 1:31:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think that might be your best bet for real at the end of the day.
• 1:31:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think so too.
• 1:31:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, because there's an accident happening.
• 1:31:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think 12,000 taxpayers moved out of the state last year.
• 1:31:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's a lot.
• 1:31:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
• 1:31:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's a lot.
• 1:31:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Man in the housing market is fucking shit right now.
• 1:31:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so property taxes are going up and property values going down, which is like, that's a recipe for disaster.
• 1:32:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's just, they tried to fucking legalize prostitution.
• 1:32:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: But you think that's a good idea.
• 1:32:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, really, like, we have all this other shit going on here and all this crime and you're worried about fucking prostitution because they, like, that's just going to encourage more human trafficking.
• 1:32:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: You don't want to see horrors underneath the bridge?
• 1:32:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Dude, I'm a driver.
• 1:32:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, I want my fucking daughter to see some.
• 1:32:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's already bad enough.
• 1:32:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's so many fucking weirdo trans people walking around.
• 1:32:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like...
• 1:32:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like mentally ill people walking around the fucking streets, wearing a dress with a full beard.
• 1:32:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, dude, like if you're gonna be a chick at least try, like shape your fucking beard, maybe?
• 1:32:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, give it a go, give it a real college try.
• 1:32:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like I listen, I can respect, listen, if you're trying real hard, I got respect for that.
• 1:32:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right?
• 1:32:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: But if you're just some fucking psycho, walking around in a fucking dress,
• 1:32:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like in a beard and armpit hair and hairy ass arms and legs, like do get the fuck out of here.
• 1:33:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like go do that shit your house.
• 1:33:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you can cosplay your house, but leave it to the others, you know, it would be the others.
• 1:33:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I appreciate you being here.
• 1:33:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: The show is called Pimp My Hunts.
• 1:33:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: You can watch it now on Wolf Untaims on YouTube.
• 1:33:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: Also, for the audio listeners, we will put the link in the audio description.
• 1:33:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then this video will be on Spotify on Sunday.
• 1:33:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: We're throttled on YouTube, so forget that.
• 1:33:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: But it's a bonus for clips and other fun stuff.
• 1:33:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: But Derek, man, I love you.
• 1:33:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: You've always been a great homey, and I can't wait to check out your show tonight.
• 1:33:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: After I get back from my son's football game, congratulations on everything.
• 1:33:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm glad you turned the corner on everything, you know, personal-wise, that was going on.
• 1:33:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, thank you, but I love you guys.
• 1:33:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we love you too, man.
• 1:33:50
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• 1:34:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: Even though he's not here, I'll say his name today for David Anthony Holloway.
• 1:34:08
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• 1:34:09
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• 1:34:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Good, night everyone.