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Ep 222 - What Saints Can Learn From Playoff Teams · Saints Block Party Podcast

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  [SPEAKER_02]: past agno music no intro we are back another episode off season jumping into it with these states block party podcasts coming at you presented by freshest works LLC and what a just an portable weekend for Paul we got to take in one
• 0:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's especially wild call weekend.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's just, you know, we and if you are new to the show or a newer to you,
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  [SPEAKER_02]: our podcast and the past we typically and off season because it's not been any posties.
• 0:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's recently we've always reflected on it's usually just the Super Bowl and turns like we look at the Super Bowl teams and talk about how far the team is away and what they need to do to improve to get back to that stage.
• 0:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: But as I was watching the games this weekend, Wildcard Weekend, I wanted us to do this episode for Wildcard Weekend, and just looking at the matchups, looking at the teams, how far the things really are a way in terms of building themselves to be a playoff team and what they need to improve on.
• 1:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: So one,
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Get back in the dance and to not just get back in the dance like to actually like be competitive in when playoff games and and be a contending team.
• 1:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: If you are new to the show, Adam joined by my co-host, my friend, my buddy, my pal Ryan, aka Wolf.
• 1:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: got to address the elephant in the room, or what I learned a day.
• 2:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm telling you that little move.
• 2:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: The what?
• 2:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: And the what?
• 2:09
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• 2:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: What's in the wood pot?
• 2:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: The they say the way.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway.
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• 2:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: write, derives, excuse me, from another idiom way back when and I'm just going to leave it at that.
• 2:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's what I love about our discord.
• 2:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: If you're not part of our community, patreon.com, slash links, barred party, bruh, you range of topics we talk about.
• 3:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: Bruh, bruh, it's unbelievable.
• 3:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's quite an, it's unbelievable.
• 3:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's, it's quite an, it's unbelievable.
• 3:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: for the last night to this board of broads just like the media gate thing with me and she was like she's there and just oh Anyway, sorry I forgot what I was thinking I was going to talk about oh elephant the room We got let's talk about the AJ Brown.
• 3:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's just get it out the way it's not let's not let's not part okay
• 3:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: We writing potentially on the wall for A.J.
• 3:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Brown's career to come to an end, not career, but his career in Philadelphia to come to an end, this offseason, not even potentially like by trade, like he just may be cut in Philly.
• 3:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's one of those things where I truly go back and forth on in terms of if he's a free agent.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I do think like,
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, highly like, wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
• 4:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: I do think the things would be interested in nature brown.
• 4:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if that would be reciprocal.
• 4:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: But the idea of adding an AJ Brown to this team
• 4:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: it just it gives me like a little like a cringe a little bit of just it could work like it's as as people who have listened and watched and all this for this show if you're watching on YouTube, we'd appreciate you liking, subscribe.
• 4:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: We are the the fucking champions of saying how much this team needs juice like Kevin screaming it for absolute
• 4:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: You go back to our episode from 2020 when the team was like a playoff, like we have been screaming for this team to add juice, but I don't know if the AJ Brown thing will potentially work out for this team, maybe 29.
• 5:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's going to get at least 30 million just for who he is and what have you.
• 5:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think he could cook with Tyler Schuck don't give me wrong.
• 5:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think I think him and Tyler Schuck could absolutely cook, but it's always the other things when it comes to AJ Brown and I just, I don't know how to feel about it.
• 5:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's interesting.
• 5:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: It is like, I was thinking about it earlier and I was like, who would I worth a pay?
• 5:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: AJ Brown or George Piggins, even two totally different things, you know, they had different like, you know, attitudes and stuff, but both are, you know, dogs and can really help our team.
• 5:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I would, I would, I mean, for this one, who do you think, because I think this is what it boils down to, like take takeaway on the on feel, take away on feel, who do you think
• 5:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: fit better into the locker room.
• 6:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: And more importantly, who do you think that Kellon Moore could quote unquote, hold accountable more?
• 6:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because that's the way I really think of what it was down to.
• 6:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 6:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: It probably be AJ Brown, because they just have experience with each other maybe.
• 6:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I don't know, I don't know, it's like, I don't just, the team just doesn't really match, like, you know what I'm saying?
• 6:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: If you're just still like, Drew Breeze and your head,
• 6:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: but to the dogs in the locker room, there's just like, I feel like a little like better about it, like they can manage it.
• 6:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: But man, this looks like a young, young team.
• 6:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: Young team, there's just kind of trying to find itself.
• 6:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: Don't even know how to win yet.
• 6:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, I just wouldn't mess with it right now.
• 6:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like the time, I feel like the timeline doesn't align with the AJ Brown.
• 6:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: even with like any more like the George Pickin' things.
• 6:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm, I would think he might be for sure more likely become a free agent, train like Kim and Alec Pierce, just because like there are times and dollars where even though he had a great season, like you just completely like took himself out of games.
• 7:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like mentally took himself out of games this season.
• 7:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: And like those are the things where I'm just like, bro, like this is a team where like the vibes are good, the locker room vibe is a good.
• 7:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: I just don't, Ed, you said that feel like the foundation in order to see Kent as killing questions after the game.
• 7:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: What happened to George Pickens after, you know, in the third quarter, fourth quarter, whatever.
• 7:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: We didn't see him on a sideline.
• 7:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: Just like, if I just weren't a sideline, just weren't a sidesty, just pissed off, bro.
• 7:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, Kelly Black, George, George is fine.
• 7:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's fine.
• 7:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's fine.
• 7:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 7:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: He just had a thing.
• 7:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, that's why I like, the alley, and I don't, I don't think, I don't think he's getting out of India.
• 7:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think he's, you know, staying, whether it be an extension, whether it be tag, but like, that's why if they were to pay a lot of money for a receiving free agency, like an alley Pierce would make more sense, yeah, just clean, you know, just, um, Scherms said, AJ Brown Biden went into his telling, no, don't want it.
• 8:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was just something to me that just,
• 8:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's the doubt to me that like after he won the Super Bowl last season like he still wasn't content.
• 8:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, like, right, right, like literally right after the super end it, like he had like an Instagram post of like him, like not like it was just and like as like a person as a fan, I'm like negative if the winner is like and there's I think there's a difference between
• 8:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like what is enough?
• 8:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like he won the Super Bowl and it was just like he just kind of worded like he felt like it would be like he would feel different.
• 9:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just like, how, like what satisfies you?
• 9:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like what brings you joy?
• 9:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, Bert, like, and you know, you just don't want that stuff to become a negative aura, you know what I'm saying?
• 9:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: I guess trying to be super competitive.
• 9:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: but don't let it be just becoming negative or away just kind of bring people away.
• 9:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: Bring people down, you know, the five is the five being right.
• 9:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: You got people asking, you call the back of body every week.
• 9:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I don't know, it's like, I, you know, but they won't do it all that, man.
• 9:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's about what they're doing.
• 9:33
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• 9:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's a little different, but like, look at, you know, I mean, even though he says all feel things still going on, but like, stuff on digs in the England, you know, like he had his issues with the bills, with the Texans and didn't really do much, was injured, blah, blah, blah.
• 10:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: And went to the England, it's been productive now, like I said, yeah, it's all feel stuff, but like on the field, like he's been fine, like, you know what I'm saying, with a young team and all that stuff, but you got a bright variable.
• 10:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: Right, you know, like a strong, you know, leadership over there.
• 10:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: We still trying to figure out what Kelly got going on, you know what I'm saying?
• 10:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't know where it could, it could.
• 10:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's funny you bring up digs because I'll never forget what they could was them.
• 10:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was the Minnesota miracle game.
• 10:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: I want to say.
• 10:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: where the Vikings were up in that game, and I just remember, this was during the game because I didn't go back and watch shit.
• 10:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like I'm Marty from the Ozarker, some of the, but he's on the sideline, like throwing a tantrum.
• 10:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: And they're up, they're up.
• 10:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Remember?
• 10:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: I remember back then I was like,
• 11:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like I get it like player great players want to you want to play great They want to get the ball they want to make plays I get that but like bro you up in a playoff game Nigger like in up and even then I was like like it like the vibe of the digs and and he just was just off to me like so I don't know man like I just there's just a thing about that that I have those type of players were like None of our own brain of men, but
• 11:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: You just gotta know, it's kinda like, like, silly dudes.
• 11:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's like a time girl, clock on, you know what I'm saying?
• 11:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, about a year or two, okay, we good.
• 11:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: We've had enough, you know what I'm saying?
• 11:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
• 11:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: But the tellers there, so it's like, they always gonna get chances.
• 11:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Wesley said, Kellon seems way too focused on booting up the culture right now.
• 11:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think AJ comes down here.
• 11:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't like to be fair.
• 11:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think if he is a word of he cut, I don't think he would come to the Saints, but I'm heavily heavily putting it out there that if he is cut, I'm very, very sure that the Saints are going to be very interested in
• 12:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Dante said, it's crazy that you see, because they know a lot of AJ Brown and free agency during my love and round one.
• 12:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: It could be, that could be Juicy or like a disaster.
• 12:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: But in the next year, you just like, man, what the annual was going to be drinking?
• 12:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: It really thought it was that quiet.
• 12:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Andrew Stephens, thank you for the $1.99 super check.
• 12:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's up fellas, Mickey Finner, thank you Finner, try to draft an O-line bet.
• 12:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is this post like possible if you haven't added chance to yet Wuff and I did our first prospect of the week episode for this Draft season we did it on Arizona State Route receiver Jordan Tyson and so that's a Patreon only episode or a YouTube member Episode so if you want our break want to watch or listen to our breakdown or Jordan Tyson
• 13:13
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• 13:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: a month, but anyhow.
• 13:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let me just catch up on the track real quick.
• 13:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Cool, cool, cool young tens that I want to drive to our receiver, but I have a weird feeling we're going to drive Peter Woods.
• 13:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Might be a good feeling.
• 13:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Who, young, might be a good feeling.
• 13:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: Man, I saw that tweet where like Peter Woods advanced statistics show.
• 13:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you saw that one?
• 13:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: He was up there
• 13:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, man, you know what you're about to go in.
• 14:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: Jeff Roddick, I have a little stance for all of them, bro.
• 14:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: All of them, bro.
• 14:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know we're going to get to Peter Woods.
• 14:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: We all probably don't have up until now.
• 14:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: I can't wait.
• 14:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: I actually want to dig it out.
• 14:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: It'll be interested because I feel like, you know, I think us having, you know, me and you having, you know, a game from 2024 and a game from 2025 and it's going to be very interesting to see, like, kind of like fall off or what the his play level is or was set out to our dude Chris much love.
• 14:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: 50 dollar super chat, if we get AJ Brown and free agency already know we're going off its a line deep in the line around one, 11 years straight, first from pick and the trenches.
• 14:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: That'd be crazy bro, that'd be crazy, that'd be crazy.
• 14:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, uh, let's love, uh, appreciate your crisp.
• 15:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, let's, let's, let's, let's, um, discuss the, the first game and, well, call it weekend, which was the Panthers versus the Rams and Carolina, everyone thought was going to be this, this crazy blowout, and it looked like it was going to be that to start, and then the Panthers fall back.
• 15:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'll say my takeaway from that game is and there's there's going to be certain takeaways that are common throughout some of these games, but my takeaway from that game.
• 15:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: One, Saints need tight ends, bruh, Saints need tight ends.
• 15:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's also a takeaway I had with the bears and Packers game, but
• 15:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: the rams have four tight ends, right?
• 15:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: They have four tight ends.
• 15:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: And one didn't even play while Cart week in.
• 16:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Terns Ferguson, the Oregon rookie, who they drafted in the second round this past draft, didn't even play.
• 16:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: They had Kobe Parkinson, that Tyler Hickby, Terns Ferguson, I'm forgetting who their fourth tight end is.
• 16:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: And,
• 16:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: it had it just allows that office to be so multiple.
• 16:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I am kind of getting tired of hearing about the round 13 personnel because I just hear it for just fucking everywhere where like I just need to want to bang my head in.
• 16:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: But you see how
• 16:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Effective it can be like if I'm the Saints like that the cash that Kobe Parkinson had Bro like in the things like touchdown like good lower if I'm the Saints and I'm not and the Saints are gonna Potentially find themselves in that same position where you know, maybe a lot of free ages don't want to come to New Orleans Maybe because of like agents and and what have you maybe not having the best relationship with Mickey but
• 16:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, Tyler Hickett is gonna be a free agent and the off season, bro.
• 16:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, if that's not someone who, and I've said this on a previous episode, that's not someone who's like, Taylor made for Kellen and his system can come in and just be a tie-in too.
• 17:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: You could even argue, a healthy Tyler Hickett in terms of what he does on the field, schematically is probably a better player than John, moving though, John just had his best season for his career.
• 17:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: They got improvement tied in, bro.
• 17:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's up for them to be relevant again.
• 17:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, Joanne and some sloppies just ain't gonna do it.
• 17:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Ain't gonna do it, bro.
• 17:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, we talked about it before.
• 17:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: Only gonna have two tight ends on the roster.
• 17:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: As of right now, you know what I'm saying?
• 17:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: You're gonna have Fosemaro, he's a free agent, no point bringing him back.
• 17:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's cooked, taste him deal, like, he probably cooked.
• 17:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: You just got your wine juts and then, and, and, and, and mascot of, you know what I'm saying?
• 17:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: And we don't know what the mascot of that going on, so they, like, they need, like, literally two tight ends just in free agency.
• 18:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: And probably draft a guy, you know what I'm saying?
• 18:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 18:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, like, they need it, you know what I'm saying?
• 18:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, it's not a one this need, um, and they, they really need to upgrade it because we saw it this off season.
• 18:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: It could block
• 18:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, Joined is not a blocker, not a blocker.
• 18:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, then he guys who could block and catch, I didn't eat some dogs, bro.
• 18:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: I did need some dogs, some tight hands.
• 18:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: The tight hands just make life so much easier, um, and it just opens up everything for your offense, especially killing, killing a show, shown that he can get creative when he has the tools, at his disposal.
• 18:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: And as you give him that, you give him that.
• 18:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: And he could cook some up, bro.
• 18:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Chris brought up a good point, which I didn't realize, but it kind of makes sense said that Joana's 30 next year as well.
• 18:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: So is me.
• 18:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Joana.
• 18:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, where?
• 18:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: He only got me.
• 18:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, God.
• 18:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Charlie's a really, some young, like, that's the thing is like, even...
• 18:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: the juicy players play with a total of second calls every time um but like to one thirty you know bayley's twenty seven or twenty eight however old bayley is like it's like the
• 19:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Team needs to be like some young young guys to choose, bro.
• 19:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like it needs it and that's it.
• 19:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's one another thing you've pulled away from these playoffs.
• 19:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, you know, just still sticking to the Panthers and the, uh, in the Rams.
• 19:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, the Rams going youth past a couple of years.
• 19:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: You're after the ass off on a defensive line, uh, the tight ends.
• 19:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: everywhere, where you just see that in fusion of youth that they've honked, you know, focused on and how it's really just gave them the opportunity to reset the clock and open a new window for them to potentially go to the Super Bowl, you know.
• 19:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: It has another takeaway hat from the same game and I said this like in the discord and I say to a little like facetiously, but like maybe not But like I can see like making a little missine like the Panthers with poker and tech going like oh shit We got that at home with a lot of alien and family baby like shit That's true like I do he would look at it like
• 20:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: Got that already, shit.
• 20:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I thought shit, we all swept them niggas twice this season.
• 20:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: It ain't just, but they lay it a lot, they add them.
• 20:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: I can't we find a poker like damn, but though, you know, like you want to find something like that, shit.
• 20:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Undrafted free agent from Holy Cross, the Saints will tell you what we had that player.
• 20:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: His name was Racici.
• 20:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Woof.
• 20:43
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• 21:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's just, I don't just don't feel like it's been up to part of what it's been over, you know, in the past, just an example from this game.
• 21:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: The fact that the rams were able to Bring in like this kind of backup linebacker and landmen from the Falcons who was kind of like this journey guy and the fact that.
• 21:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: He signed with them for a cheat deal and off season and just has been a fantastic middle line backer for them, brain dot player, and got a contract extension during this season.
• 21:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like when's the last time something like that has happened for this?
• 21:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I feel like it feels like the Mario, was like the last one, right?
• 21:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, pretty much like chase him he was like a big name.
• 22:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: I push round one of them.
• 22:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, number two overall.
• 22:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: But like just finding those gems and free agency.
• 22:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: It really hadn't been much in a while, but I probably the Mario.
• 22:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: You write probably the last one, man.
• 22:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: You got to, you got to hit on those.
• 22:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like those, those are the difference makers.
• 22:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, you've been able to find those hidden gems on, you know, tier two, tier three free agency that nobody's really weren't about.
• 22:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: that changes everything and we know that because the Saints have done it in the past.
• 22:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Perfecting up from this game as well.
• 22:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Even I'm not saying that the Saints need like secondary help, but I mean, they, they probably won't poo poo it.
• 22:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Michael Jackson bro Michael Jackson man, he'll learn bowling.
• 22:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Duller for the past is in that case.
• 22:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Bowling man, I was like, you know, this guy and that's someone who
• 22:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like I remember when he was in Seattle and he I remember you know him plastering in Seattle a couple of times and kind of got you know lost in the show from the league and you know Everrow the adamant and free agency and and bottom in and Him and horn played great on on Saturday before horn went out with the concussion and almost that almost out the interception that won the game
• 23:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: for the Panthers had Puka not, you know, broken the broken the play up, but like those, like at the margin type of signings that didn't become a pivotal key part of your team, changes like the whole trajectory of your team.
• 23:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, absolutely.
• 23:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, depth, I mean, it's not the most sexiest thing, but one thing we've seen in this play, all is it's like, that whole rock guy.
• 23:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: Definitely it's the most important thing, bro, because everybody heard everybody is hurt and no one cares.
• 23:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: Nobody cares, no one cares.
• 23:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: Nobody is going to feel sorry for you, it doesn't matter.
• 23:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like you have to get back out there and literally just play.
• 24:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: So sometimes, like you find like,
• 24:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we'll get to the game, but air kinship's out there making big, big, big, big, big, big friends.
• 24:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: That was my biggest takeaway watching that game is like, and I tweeted, I said, I don't want to hear Mickey make.
• 24:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't like.
• 24:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: the injury shit, bro, I don't want to hear it, bro.
• 24:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: If Calshetta had to take this team to the visual round of the playoffs with his many injuries that they've had defensively this season, I don't want to hear another thing about about injuries of her give, bro.
• 24:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just, I don't, I don't, I've seen it.
• 24:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: I've seen it.
• 24:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: I've seen it.
• 24:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's anything else from like, Rams, Panthers that stood out to you in terms of something
• 24:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: the team could take away.
• 24:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: Not really, man, but, you know, it's just interesting to me where the patches are in general, because, like, how do you, you know, like, if you were there, like, really jammed, like, what do you really come away with from this season, you know?
• 24:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Cause show some positives.
• 25:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: They want some games, they got into playoffs.
• 25:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: You saw some positives from Bryce Young, but that's still the defense is not good.
• 25:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's nothing I could just really hang my head on with this team, you know?
• 25:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's the only thing you can really hang, you can hang your head on, it's weird, like if I'm thinking about the Panthers, there's Derek Brown, there's J.C. Horn, you feel confident in poker, you feel confident in Tetsurora, McMillan.
• 25:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 25:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's weird.
• 25:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I think that's,
• 25:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: He ate the pop-up with a game every night and it was just like, oh man, he is playing well, but the consistency has just not been there at all.
• 25:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: And our girls were not, we put out an article about saying, like, the Panthers should be hopeful the future for what Bryce showed.
• 25:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: I would just say this.
• 25:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: And this is like, this is, you know, I wonder if the Saints were taking the similar approach with Tyler Schuck, because it was just a small sample size this past season,
• 26:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: As great as he played against the Rams on Saturday, you know, sometimes team makes teams make the mistake of over reacting to like a great game or like a small sample size.
• 26:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I don't I don't you type of suck in this example, but I use like we'll love this as another example, right?
• 26:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: In his rookie season, where he popped and made some, you know, once games for for the Titans,
• 26:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're put into a franchise quarterback, and which is crazy, because that's a big reason why my, that's a huge reason why my drabals, my drabals no longer the Tennessee head coach, because he didn't believe and will love his body was trash.
• 26:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the ownership and GM at the time was like, no, like this is gonna be the quarterback.
• 26:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so, I think you just have to be, and I'm not, I'm a Saints fan, so whatever, fuck the Panthers and hope that they can't
• 27:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just think you got to be careful with that, taking that performance from Bryce and the playoffs and then trying to extrapolate it, because...
• 27:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: he's been consistently who he is also think there is also room to that in the quarterbacks need room to grow and absolutely and the league overall is very quick on giving up on quarterbacks too soon we've seen it you know playing time Sam Donald Baker may field make sure when wouldn't surprise me at all if
• 27:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: the Vikings did something similar with JJ McCarthy, but it's just, it's interesting.
• 27:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: And if you're the Saints, right?
• 27:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was thinking watching that game was like, man, I wonder how P.O.
• 27:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: the Saints are for thinking like maybe that they should be playing the Rams, you know, and not.
• 27:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I was just thinking like, man, if we were playing the Rams, let's, okay, so let's say the Saints had one that Dolphins game.
• 28:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: and then they beat the Falcons and week 18.
• 28:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: They would have been, they wouldn't have won the NSE South, which is absolutely fucking wild.
• 28:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: By the way, what's the thing for him?
• 28:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: And what have welcomed the Rams in, wild cart week at, in New Orleans?
• 28:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: And you know what I think, I think, the same sort of play that is.
• 28:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: I got no, they jumped us early in the year, but I think we're shook.
• 28:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, grew from that end, mm-hmm.
• 28:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think I think it would have been a game.
• 28:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: I ain't saying anyone would have won.
• 28:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I would have been a game, bro.
• 28:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think you really think it would have been a game, which would have been, that would have been, like, can you imagine that, bro?
• 28:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, it would have stayed tight.
• 28:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'd fuck quarter, just a round, bro.
• 28:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, what is happening?
• 28:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: On the last three, woof, oh, my God.
• 28:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: What is happening, right now?
• 28:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'll say this, bro.
• 28:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: What would you have rather been?
• 28:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is not that one to ask you.
• 28:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Then we'll take our first break and then kind of get into the rest of these games.
• 29:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: What would you have rather been?
• 29:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Would you have rather been in the situation where the Panthers where you get into the playoffs, you have a great show and like you just had against the Rams and you potentially have this hope for the future.
• 29:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: But you're picking 19th in the draft or be the Saints where
• 29:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: your quarterback shows great promise and his rookie season towards end the season, but with the losses earlier in the season and a couple of losses later in the season, you're picking eighth, like for a long term for the future.
• 29:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I wish that I would pick the Saints, or rather be the Saints, but it put myself in like a Panthers fan shoes, I gave his something.
• 29:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: down years for a full while, like a whole time, bro.
• 29:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: So like to be like a dude, like the stadium was rowdy.
• 29:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was a good game, like, it was.
• 29:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: If I was a Panthers fan, I just would have been just a head at moment, bro, because y'all haven't had nothing to be excited about in years, man.
• 30:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: So just that infusion of excitement.
• 30:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think it was worth it.
• 30:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, okay, you picking 19, 19, it's okay.
• 30:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, you know, that's okay.
• 30:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying, you get over it.
• 30:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: for the sense like, I'm good.
• 30:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm good.
• 30:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm good.
• 30:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm good to sit in home, bro.
• 30:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Doctor said only for me to have a heart attack because uh, cool aid and a lot to get done in by Puka Lake in the fourth.
• 30:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm good.
• 30:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I can see it clear with day wolf clearest day.
• 30:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Good day, bro.
• 30:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: A lot to do in that little run.
• 30:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I said, medic, motherfuckers, just like in the end, I won't get me, get me out.
• 30:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Don't want it, won't not sign up for that.
• 30:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, let's take our first break, and we'll be back in breakdown of the rest of these games in hiding into the Saints and how they can improve for the future right after this.
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• 32:37
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• 32:40
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• 32:41
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• 32:42
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• 32:43
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• 32:45
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• 32:52
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• 32:55
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• 33:08
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• 33:10
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• 33:11
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• 33:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: This This is what's gonna happen with Peter Woods, too, bro.
• 33:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know this is this is my theory when it comes in like for for the Saints for the Saints to drive the defensive tackle like that take gotta be like exquisite to me
• 33:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's like, it got a quiz, man.
• 33:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Press Steve.
• 33:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Rankin's, I just, I'd never felt that the entire process just did not feel like, like, I felt he was like fine.
• 33:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: And like, remember?
• 33:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like a season, he had a season and a half where he played really well.
• 33:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: The rest of the season, he was hurt or just played met.
• 33:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just felt like, just, go ahead.
• 33:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: What's crazy is, I could see, we're seeing him like a similar arc.
• 33:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: To his career, you know?
• 33:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I could just see him like three, four years
• 33:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, oh, look at the receipt, make it a sack.
• 33:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, it's like, I just still play it, make it plays in the league.
• 34:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?
• 34:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I can just see it on that type of party.
• 34:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: I could also see that also become in peer woods like him being like no a decent to good player but like largely over all of that.
• 34:15
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• 34:19
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• 34:25
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• 34:26
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• 34:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Shimmy's retired.
• 34:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was that one episode.
• 34:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: Rod said I wouldn't mind having NBS back on a cheap deal.
• 34:38
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• 34:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: NBS is what it is, bro.
• 34:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: NBS.
• 34:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: It'll test of two bowls.
• 34:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: People were in the chat were saying AJ Brown was washed and then Nighthawk said, AJ Brown not washed, situations can change a lot.
• 34:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think he's washed.
• 34:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: He did drop a lot of, like, quite a few days this season.
• 34:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's see.
• 34:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let me just catch up on the chat before we dig in.
• 34:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: More.
• 35:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: uh, we need a young white receiver big body.
• 35:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
• 35:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, so one asked us, uh, an early in the chat, basically about like the receivers, like in terms of like the receivers that we, we would want the same strap or what have you.
• 35:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: So what I'm going to say is this, uh, we have a whole series, um, of our prospect of the weekend, but so that we're, we're putting out every week or we're talking about
• 35:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: So if you are a Patreon or for YouTube member at the end of each episode, we have our clouds of the players ranked in terms of, you know, if we were drafting from, you know, my perspective and from what was perspective.
• 35:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: So check that out because you'll have the insight of players that we like over who or what what have you.
• 35:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: So that was the first game, well, Cartoon Weekend, and then after that was bears pounds, was it not, yeah, yeah, man, that game that stuck with me, that was a game.
• 36:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Boy, that throw Caleb had on fourth down one and might be one of the best guy Demethro'sippers in my life.
• 36:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: That was, that was some Michael Jordan shit right there, like, it was insane.
• 36:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Also, it's why it's why I feel like as fans overall, we have to just learn to be more patient because the talent for Caleb was always there.
• 36:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Always there.
• 36:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: It took him getting an off like, one thing that took out to me in that game and I'm not saying that I'm not saying that Kevin is not a good play caller in whatever
• 36:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: and from level for us to finish him and Mike Lefore actually because before it was cool, yeah, it was a cool dice and up the DAD fence net first half, but my biggest takeaway, I would say is from mescane two things.
• 37:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: Ben Johnson,
• 37:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: imprinted his attitude on the bears from the jump from OTAs from training camp and made them a tough physical, resilient team.
• 37:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: I also showed that, you know, if you're taking notes saints that like you don't have to be old, through,
• 37:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: The drafts with O-1, like the Bears O-1 was not good at all, and he came in offseason Trader for Joe Tuney.
• 37:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: All pro drill right.
• 37:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: They had already dropped in the first round.
• 37:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: They did draft Auditra Pillow who got injured in that game.
• 37:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: They drafted me like an I think in a dirt round of the draft So it's like this I guess like the notion that like the offensive line could be built in so many other ways except just first round picks Like if you you got to have the coaching and you have you got to have good the players you have to hit on the players But y'all have that coaching Yeah, but then it's
• 38:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: how important that when you have a young quarterback, Caleb Williams is a year to quarterback, the two players that he was going most to in that game were rookies with chips.
• 38:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so hello, rookies with juice.
• 38:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: With the burn was my draft name, bro.
• 38:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, it didn't make no sense to me why he was like, not a first round pick.
• 38:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, if you just put on his, his Missouri tape, he was, so, like, he was my white receiver one.
• 38:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: He was my right receiver one in last year's draft.
• 38:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it just goes to show that when you are able to surround your quarterback with like,
• 39:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: juice that date like it's this relationship where they help each other out where like you don't have to ask highly shook every game to go out and uplift the offense like yeah Chris a lot of it don't get his and he he does this thing but like coaxing like you could argue right now that coaxing lovely is maybe like a top six tight in in the league right now like that's the the rookie that's not higher
• 39:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: You need guys that make plays, man.
• 39:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's the one thing about the playoff playoffs.
• 39:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: So you need dudes that make plays, man.
• 39:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: Everything can't be skeamed, perfectly and perfectly drawn up.
• 39:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: You need guys to stretch out fo balls and make insane athletic plays and stuff like that, because the margins are so slim in the playoffs.
• 39:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: Everybody's good.
• 39:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: Everybody's playing physical.
• 39:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: what Caleb was able to do, the thickness, and he started to gain horrible.
• 40:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like he started to gain the body.
• 40:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: He on the sideline crashing out, like, man, this is going terrible.
• 40:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: But it just shows you like, maybe he just got to keep plugging that it, you know, and one thing I like about the Saints is like, they got a quarterback that's kind of built like that, like, you know what I'm saying?
• 40:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: Then we'll keep just like firing, you know what I'm saying?
• 40:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: Into the end, you know?
• 40:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I can't wait to see him like in those big game.
• 40:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: We have had those real big games.
• 40:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: Having bro can't wait to see how he handles those type of games.
• 40:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: Big games, everybody watching.
• 40:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to be very interested to just see how the team handles, having expectations next season like it be a doozy.
• 40:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not saying it's easy, but when you're going to season and I know they didn't have low expectations of themselves, but like the grand scheme, the expectations around the league for the same for very low.
• 40:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: But now going into 2021, potentially I have your quarterback going
• 41:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, you go, and then you go into games, we're now too, potentially, aren't just like, all these niggas right here.
• 41:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: We don't, we, we'll give our, our C effort.
• 41:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: We don't come out from win.
• 41:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like the rounds, when they, the saves play the rounds this season, and they laid the rounds were playing at a C level, effort, what?
• 41:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: And smoke, smoke, smoke, smoke, smoke.
• 41:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: But when you have a quarterback and they just put on a film like Intent and I told like defenseers are like a little more perked up like, oh, we got to, oh, he got to arm.
• 41:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he can run like this.
• 41:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he's gonna get a, yeah, okay.
• 41:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, no, no expectations go up and so for me, I'm just gonna be interested to see how Kellen handles those expectations.
• 41:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: How shook handles those expectations because sometimes people can kind of crater when expectations are put on them.
• 41:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: There are going to be expectations that this team has on them next season.
• 42:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's see, Stephen A Smith, that's a weird thing to have as a handle.
• 42:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: The Saints won't draft Peter Woods because he's a three technique and the Saints use a four technique in their schemes.
• 42:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: I would not bet any money on that.
• 42:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Justin Cash, with $2.25, appreciate you Justin.
• 42:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Signed Bill's Guard Edwards and draft Tate or Downs.
• 42:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Would be fine with that.
• 42:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, Hemmins Fierre said the man Texans just got Tom and fire instant Aaron Rodgers to a retirement home.
• 42:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: Caesar just turned out exactly how everybody thought.
• 42:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, grand opening grand clues.
• 42:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: Right, Chloe.
• 42:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Anything else from Bayer?
• 42:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
• 42:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, absolutely.
• 42:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: Kicker.
• 42:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: Kicker, kicker, kicker, like.
• 42:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
• 42:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: The Green Bay kicker caused them seven points, seven to seven points.
• 42:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: Miss two field goals and an extra point.
• 42:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: They would have won the game.
• 42:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: They would have won that game.
• 42:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Sounds familiar from a former kicker that was on the same spot.
• 43:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, you can't mess around with that position.
• 43:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: You just can't mess around with it, man.
• 43:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like that literally caused them to gain.
• 43:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: They would be a plan next week.
• 43:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: uh, individual division around if they had just a good solid kicker.
• 43:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and I don't know what, I don't know what Charlie Smith has been like, it's early, but he's so nice to see his two.
• 43:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: I wouldn't go into the season like, man, Charlie Smith's our guy.
• 43:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: I definitely know that, you know what I'm saying?
• 43:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm bringing in real competition and like the goals should be like to have your kicking game solidified like solidified, you know what I'm saying?
• 43:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: It just came up with that shit, bro.
• 43:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, I look floor kept driving because he was playing to get, like, I'm like, why are you playing to kick a field goal?
• 43:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, bro, you have you not watched your kicker?
• 43:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, what are you doing?
• 44:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I got this plan.
• 44:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Bro, that's actually what drive me early in the scene because Kevin was doing the exact same shit.
• 44:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
• 44:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, he was doing the same stuff with Groupie.
• 44:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: And like, this nigga's miss, like, two kicks in this game.
• 44:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, what are you like, what are you doing?
• 44:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Why are you doing, like, what are you doing?
• 44:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Go and go and back real quick to Panthers Rams ran a special teams almost cost in that game There's lots of teams have been ass off season.
• 44:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: They fired Fire their fields team coordinator.
• 44:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: It almost came back and literally cost them
• 44:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: the game and they was almost going to, you know, be out of the division round because I, I say a Simmons of all fucking blabber boxes of pun and sets up Panthers with great field position that they end up scoring a touchdown on that almost was the goal I had touchdown for then to win the game.
• 44:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: The Saints are a bottom team regarding special teams and you hit on it so eloquently in the past that like people fans just don't
• 45:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: understand like being important to special teams.
• 45:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like it can win or lose your games.
• 45:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Games, right?
• 45:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're in.
• 45:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: So it's I don't know if they're going to do anything about what was this thing.
• 45:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: Feel.
• 45:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know if they're going to but it's special things got to be better for the things next season.
• 45:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: If they think they want to be anything and competing for an NFC title,
• 45:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: The question is flipping over one thing just to call it staying with the packers They're they have some players like dropping balls and what have you but the just abundance of juice that the packers have is so annoying, bro
• 45:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like Romeo Dobbs was a free agent, Christian Watson, Matthew Golden, it's just, it's annoying.
• 45:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: It is annoying.
• 45:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, Grinch brought up Matthew Golden, like that, that was, that was great because he's somebody who was looking like a bus this year, but I like what to do and nothing and a come in and make the plays.
• 46:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: He did down the stretch almost almost one of the game bro almost one of the game Just the plays he was able to make so it just that's just another one of those goes to show you like You know don't count players out even early in the season or midseason when see you draft a player And you end doing nothing you know saying like sometimes it just need a shot, man That's why we always talked about
• 46:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, get players on the field so they can get the shot so we could see, you know, like sometimes Black players aren't practice players.
• 46:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes players don't look good and practice during the week and stuff like that.
• 46:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: Get them on the field.
• 46:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: You put Matt, Matt, you go and call the screen pairs and like you eight players to get the touchdown.
• 46:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: You can't do that in practice.
• 46:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?
• 46:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: I've got to get some things to just try to happen in a game, man.
• 46:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: So just wanted those things.
• 46:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: We just got to keep them look out for something else that it's funny.
• 47:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's not the same, but just how sometimes I just think offensive coaches can't help themselves.
• 47:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: That in that Packers game, the floor, there are some times he probably should have ran the ball more with Josh Jacobs, and he didn't, and it situations are so difficult.
• 47:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: I completely different, but like a split second did remind me of that Falcons game in the week 18, where the Saints were driving, and they were running ball fantastically against a tire, Falcons defense,
• 47:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, getting good games with, you know, estimated and and shook at that long run and then like they start, they go to the path and then leads to like the interception and just offensive coaches for whatever reason, like we thought we've seen it with champagne for years is to take it, you know, him getting like,
• 47:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: mature and being in the lead for a long time, but just that pressing and like past past past past past.
• 48:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's just, it's just, it's just something that is driving me crazy again, but like, I'm like, why are you taking so many, like, all you need is like 10 years, why are you taking so many shots to the end zone?
• 48:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: Don't, yeah.
• 48:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, what are, what are people doing here, man?
• 48:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, those things just drive me crazy.
• 48:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Same here.
• 48:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's take our last break of the show Eugene and Southernland.
• 48:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Shuck that from South Philly fellas, appreciate you Eugene and welcome back.
• 48:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: We'll take our last break of the episode and we'll come back and wrap up the rest of these wildcard games and how this Saints can take things from them to get back into play awesome right after the spring.
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• 50:10
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• 50:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Randy Major said that through Caleb Williams II and the fourth quarter reminded me a lot of the throws shook through again, against Atlanta to Joanne Johnson.
• 50:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think they're just different type of, this is not me being a homer.
• 50:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: That Caleb throw is like, it, no.
• 50:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: kid was insane right and say I don't know I'm like I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so froze that we know those rules I would say I didn't know that's the it like even that Caleb throw that he threw to win and over time to do you do more what's all that he's had some throws he's had like he rolls this year though that's like what the world it does it doesn't make any sense um bills jacks
• 51:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, from this game, um, don't want to talk about media gate.
• 51:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm already over at media gate.
• 51:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Please, once that pleans, uh, David, one thing though, uh, I will say, is,
• 51:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: as complete as, hopefully, it's completely of the Jags were defensively this year and played great with, you know, Josh Hines Island and Trevor Walker, Devon Lloyd.
• 51:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Chip Mike, probably like when you get to the playoffs and if you go against like a S tier quarterback,
• 51:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like we and I think to not tomorrow, but like this upcoming week Broncos bills is going to be like a great case study for that No, sometimes right.
• 52:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it don't matter Well, how good your defense is in 2020 like it and just modern NFL football also okay We just thought very quickly of how idiot how idioted the things were we're not to get anything from Buffalo for Brandon Cook's bra Crazy, we're making plays
• 52:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, and it wasn't, there were, there were offered for him to treat that lot, bruh, like even, even if you get in a 2,000 27 sixth or seventh round pick to not get something for him is, like, it's that whole, like, loyalty and then let him go, like it's, it's just, it's bad business bruh, it's bad business bad business bad business, but yeah, man, like one thing with the jigs
• 52:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, just to turn around, they made, was just unbelievable, like, to be as bad as they were last year.
• 52:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: And to be right there, you know, in the playoffs, look good all year.
• 52:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like you said, man, like, Josh Allen, just coughed him up.
• 53:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, Josh Allen played, like, just good old fashioned quarterback in this game.
• 53:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it's just, like, he just sliced him up, took him apart,
• 53:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: I forgot the other corner behind the back of the name, just like Toma, Toma the pieces.
• 53:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was interesting though, like, games like this, bro, it's like, it just still goes to see, like, you could feel, you could be feeling great, you could be on a run, you could feel like you're making it at the right time.
• 53:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: You get to the playoffs, bro, this reality hits you, it's like, man, we ain't ready.
• 53:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's, we're not ready.
• 53:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's it.
• 53:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's it.
• 53:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's just final bro.
• 53:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's over.
• 53:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: Over.
• 53:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: It looked like the Jags ain't done shit in years, and the finally get here.
• 53:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: And that's like, they back home, and who knows, like, yeah, we think, oh, yeah.
• 53:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: They proud to think, oh, we gonna be back.
• 53:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: We'll be back next year.
• 53:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: Sure?
• 53:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, oh, you sure.
• 54:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, listen, and that felt daily, I forgot who said it, but like,
• 54:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, Dan Campbell after that, NFC championship lost that the lion's had to, the Niners, like, yeah, it's, I got to think people were like, that's, I was what, and as the Eagles lost yesterday, I was like, the cheese really went to three superpoles in a row, bro, like, crazy crazy crazy crazy crazy crazy.
• 54:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was trying to get the what, I can't think it don't want.
• 54:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Then went to three in a row, like that's insane.
• 54:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, and I always been dumb before, but just like in like recent modern day NFL for it to happen like it just, it makes not all the sense, but you know, I just watch in that game and I completely forgot to start time of the bills, uh,
• 54:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: having a top three quarterback is a cheat code.
• 54:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I do think, and again, kind of going back to what I was saying against about the Packers, often often so play callers like you could argue that Liam Cohen should ran the ball more.
• 55:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: with Travis C. T. N. And we're two and because I was the builds, builds weakness, I'll give Kevin this like when they played the bills early in the season, like in the bills run game was not good, like he was spamming that shit with Ken Drake and that shit was working.
• 55:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just one thing I will say from from this game and I think we've seen from Chase Young, much improvement.
• 55:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: miss me with pressure stats bra like the this jacks had a lot of pressure against Josh Allen this past weekend they have one sack on him like if you not if you not convert those pressures into sacks bra it I'm not saying to the matter like quick pressures matter but like yeah but if it's not effective in a quarterback you know you don't matter to me I don't get it too
• 55:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: pressure didn't like did you affect the past even it's a sack a hit you knocked the ball out you caused the air throw you have to be disrupting and not just pressuring you know saying pressuring is I'm not saying it's meaningless because like for the most part they do correlate to sex and it's not that stuff
• 56:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: But it's just not the end to all be all, you know what I'm saying?
• 56:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: And now like nowadays, like pressures get used as a stat almost like sex.
• 56:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so had eight pressures in this game.
• 56:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's like, okay, what does that mean?
• 56:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly, eight pressures.
• 56:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like what I got to see it.
• 56:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like I actually got to see the eight pressures that know what he's like, good pressures.
• 56:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: Or was he just like a yard and a half behind the quarterback while he's moving up in the pocket and then making a 10 yard throw.
• 56:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like it done.
• 56:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 56:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: change young had a shit ton of pressure last season, but it didn't feel like you was affecting quarterback at all a lot of the season as opposed to this season like we saw it like it you saw it like that matters um it also like stood out to me just how with with with the jacks
• 57:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: They have David Lloyd who's a free agent, they have, you know, a lot of, you know, they have Travis, he's in free agent, so it's, I'm not saying that they're window shut, like it, things are probably, you know, looking good for Jacksonville, but like he's in and there's a finality and talent to Jim to get the work.
• 57:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Cause, I mean, they, I know they ran your bulk out of him, but I like, man, it's your bulk you built up a list, built you out of the squad over the years, you know, yeah, bro.
• 57:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: a terrible dude to work with or whatever.
• 57:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's a brother talent, really.
• 57:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I'm going to combine these last two games as we wrap this up was, it was chargers and Patriots and then what I was able to see today from Steelers and Texans just, oh, complete
• 58:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, the, like, that's the game where you talked about, like, the importance of a depth and, you know, you had the Marcus Robinson go over like a hundred, a hundred yards, you know, Brandon, how you guys and play it all season, Ricky Pierce all is constantly heard, and then you had Marcus Robinson just go out and get you, I believe a hundred plus received a hundred plus receiving yards in that game.
• 58:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: You had George Kittle get hurt.
• 58:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Torres Achilles early in that game and then you're just kind of flip and just take Kyle you you check who becomes like a pseudo tight in it was like the play calling that Kyle Shanahan did all the Sunday bro.
• 58:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: I took it bro.
• 58:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, Brad heard it through what two intersections.
• 59:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: And you still felt like they had the game handle.
• 59:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: And part of that was like Philly's offense just was dead, just dead, it could be nothing.
• 59:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like it was just that body language was horrible.
• 59:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: They just looked, it looked like they wanted to be there.
• 59:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was, yes.
• 59:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: I just was like, what is going on over there?
• 59:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was something in this.
• 59:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
• 59:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: They just tired of jailing her to like some devil knowledge.
• 59:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: They tired of jailing her.
• 59:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: They tired next to her.
• 59:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: Y'all and he like I don't I don't it might be both, but I don't know That's the thing.
• 59:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's one thing I took away is like making sure you have like a Pretty good building a good luck around whatever you want called it like
• 59:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: because the vibes, the equals are loaded.
• 59:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: They are healthy.
• 59:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like they are topped the bottom, all pros, they're on every group.
• 59:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like they should not, they should be in the playoffs still.
• 59:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like they should be a good team.
• 59:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: Makes no sense.
• 59:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: They just want to Super Bowl.
• 1:00:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, they just look like they ain't belong, bro.
• 1:00:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it just goes to show you how to just have in like a bad aura.
• 1:00:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: And if I could have been in like a rumble, what I was going on, to sink any shit.
• 1:00:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: It could sink in.
• 1:00:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's why I started off with the whole AJ Brown thing of just how if this is the same spent that route.
• 1:00:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just like, I have my reservations, another quick thing, another quick thing, sort of Christian McCairford ran, Texas route, I posted him just good, Texas route from this side.
• 1:00:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's on opposite side of the quarterback, came out,
• 1:00:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: Think like he was going this way it is on and then jerked it back in and caught the touchdown panes killing more like can we get some of that steam and bro I run the backs I got no We got no dog.
• 1:00:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: I know we got no really okay.
• 1:00:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
• 1:00:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's probably okay, but we'll never run it back We're going to get this all season like can we do some of that stuff please?
• 1:00:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm I'm saving this Well, I'm I'm gonna let this out but like we'll talk about it more
• 1:01:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: in depth on our germile love, prospering a week.
• 1:01:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Some of what makes love a very exciting player is the ability in the passing game in the receiving game.
• 1:01:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: If you were to come to the Saints, we're telling them more as history of not utilizing running back some of the passing game.
• 1:01:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like to some of that kid largely like minimize, I don't know for like, I don't know.
• 1:01:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: I can't believe I've just can't believe killer will be that this do I would hope not, bro.
• 1:01:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: I would hope not.
• 1:01:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, that's but like you like you said just the importance of having
• 1:01:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: like the depth that the Niners have in the port but the fact that they were able to like to sign like guys off the street like right and you accept it that point is it's like Garrett Garrett Warlowe and they was just able to just be able to drop in Robert Salas defense and play like outstanding games like it's just just coach and bro like thanks like
• 1:02:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: coaching in the NFL goes so far.
• 1:02:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: It goes so far.
• 1:02:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I think with that Eagles, Niners game, you saw like the opposite ends of the spectrum of like in a league coach.
• 1:02:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I know Nick Serriani want us to be bold, but like in terms of like him as an actual coach, I still like scratched my head a little bit.
• 1:02:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't bad at all.
• 1:02:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just like what competitive advantage do you bring on Sundays?
• 1:02:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what it is.
• 1:02:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: I couldn't I could not tell you what it is.
• 1:02:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: If he got fired,
• 1:02:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: If you got fired tomorrow, teams would not be lining up.
• 1:02:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: They would not be lining up.
• 1:02:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: You could get a couple of views, but I don't think teams will be beaten down this door.
• 1:02:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: Which is crazy, you just want a Super Bowl.
• 1:02:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: But,
• 1:02:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, we saw the same thing happen with the last coach.
• 1:02:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: I forgot his name.
• 1:02:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Don't be the star fan to know.
• 1:02:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 1:02:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 1:02:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: Don't be the star fan to know.
• 1:02:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, but he's doing he's doing.
• 1:02:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's doing.
• 1:02:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, at least had like, okay, he was offensive guy.
• 1:02:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he had something like you could point to it.
• 1:03:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: He was like, okay.
• 1:03:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and he has some offensive creativity.
• 1:03:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, he was, yeah.
• 1:03:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: But like with Cereon is like, what do you do?
• 1:03:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
• 1:03:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Managed, he goes, nigga, managed, managed.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: tantrums I don't I don't know Shout out to Justin Cash for $2 super chat bring me Tiger King with love love Tyler Higby Let's quickly Put it bow in it these last two games the defensive struggles and then the blowout that the steater's had I'll say this What the Patriots did and what this what the Texans did defensively
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  [SPEAKER_02]: That is extremely hard to emulate and in terms of like building a defense like that and I just not only is it hard to emulate, been in defense like that, I have also seen defenses like that.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: often times like in crunch time, fourth quarter drive, whatever they need to stop.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: No matter how good the defense is, I've seen deepens like that like shrink so many times, like historically.
• 1:04:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just I've just seen it.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: But all that to say, we go around what they're able to do with this Texas team, what the Patriots and Grable was able to do, just stellar defensive jobs.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And taking from that, I would completely understand as much as we're screaming for Jews in what have you and one in Jews around one, if the player at eight was like a David Bailey, a Caleb Downs, even maybe like a Ruben Bane,
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  [SPEAKER_02]: pounding the table for one of them, I could get it, because Brennan said they had shown you what he could do with pretty low talent on the defensive side of the ball.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So you then start thinking like, man, if we got him some player players, some players?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Hey.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Then you like, hmm, what then what could he do?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So that's one of my takeaways.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I have these last two kind of blowout games.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: The one takeaway I had from that charge is pitchers game.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And I hate to say it, but boy, offensive line, but offensive line, offensive line.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that was just, that was horrible.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I had to go and pull up some of the old 22 today just to see, like I was like, well, what really happened in that charge this game?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And it was, it was the bearish member.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: It was, and it bears off.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Offensive line, it also shows you when you have an offensive coordinator that it, like, does not really work in any things, can matter horrible on,
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  [SPEAKER_02]: game day.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, like, did some of the worst past concepts you would ever see you like, like, the brown concepts or whatever, just like, what will, it's this, how does this do, I just do this, you know, something that's, like, teams, great roaming.
• 1:05:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: There's the 49ers with capricut, all of them, the, the, the Ravens, Lamar, I hate the charges like, I
• 1:06:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like that's like that's like that's the white privilege bruh.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't have a lot of That's all it is bruh always We're my boy.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Who's the coordinator for time Brady with the books?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh I know
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Can't even remember his name.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Man, I want to Super Bowl.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Can't he get a job with coach and her and this stuff like that?
• 1:06:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, then they're going to get these D-I.
• 1:06:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: We need more interviews, and that's it, nigga.
• 1:06:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: He got, I mean, he got one, this last coach and it's like, oh, I know what this is.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: No, stop playing it.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Cook a death, you know.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Just give me that zoom, Link.
• 1:06:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, but any, any, any, any big take away as we wrapped this up, we weren't longer in the episode than I thought we would, any big take away, you know, just watching these games and I guess a question out in with you is watching these playoff games and these teams, how far do you feel the Saints are from?
• 1:07:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not even saying it.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: But like, you know, like, like, like, like, you know, they could get in the playoffs.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: They don't think before for that, you know, and I think they could depend on the matter of they could, they could make a little noise in the playoffs.
• 1:07:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: But like, actual competing, like, actually having like a shot to get all the way to the championship game, it's not peaked.
• 1:07:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: Only got to the championship game three times in his entire 15 years with the Saints three times with Joe Breeze.
• 1:07:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like that's how crazy that is.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Got to the championship game.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Super Bowl only once, you know what I'm saying only?
• 1:07:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: Which I'm thankful for, but I got along with a go burn, like they got a long way to go, like one thing I was just looking at it, it's really like you gotta have a fierce pass rush if you're gonna be one of them teams.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Gotta have a good pass rush.
• 1:07:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: Quarterback plea, gotta be an accident.
• 1:07:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: And the thing about the quarterback plea,
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  [SPEAKER_03]: It has to be balanced where you have your on schedule like good like consistent quarterback stuff, but you also got to have the second direction and play me stuff to put it put to keep on.
• 1:08:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: Got to have that keep, that got to, you know what I'm saying, is why, you know, right pretty brother gonna get bounced out at some point, this, you know, in these playoffs.
• 1:08:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: Even though he got a little bit of playback in him, but it's just like a little bit, you know, it's tough, bro.
• 1:08:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's tough.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: It's tough to win.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, how crazy do you do?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: It's really hard to win.
• 1:08:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, it's just be so hard.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, what you want, you want the charges to cut?
• 1:08:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: like to cut her bird or something like I'm over the and I'm not and I'm not saying that her bird is No, he should not be absorbed.
• 1:08:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: You don't say it's like people like people like out here at the like just in Herbert's like a bottom half NFL quarterback brother like you're bum Jo and Quarterback like That's all another conversation
• 1:09:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: I agree with you wholeheartedly in regards to all of that, I would just say, like, I have fun.
• 1:09:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think fans are so like, and I'm not saying like, it's fans like we wanna get to the playoffs.
• 1:09:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: We wanna have that feeling again and things like that.
• 1:09:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I do think there's a way to get there.
• 1:09:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I've said this earlier, even when the things start to win and like not, you got you, not trying to short like take short cuts to get there.
• 1:09:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's how teens get them, get themselves in trouble.
• 1:09:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not joking.
• 1:09:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: And as you know,
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  [SPEAKER_02]: essentially you have this quarterback that looks great and it should be the guy going forward build that organically and when there's an opportunity, there's a player that you know really you feel like fits and you know if you want to spend crazy on getting the guard or whatever like do that but like there's for me this team especially for an office wise still has to and I say for an office I mean making lumus there still has to be some
• 1:10:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: measured controlness to them and how they operate.
• 1:10:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's why this offseason to me is going to be very fascinating to see how it unfolds is that if it's going to be controlled measured or is that is that the, you know, the things are interested in a day brown, a day brown coming to your own for a visit, you know, we start saying that and like, oh, I know, no, no, no, I want targeted aggression, you know,
• 1:10:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: Think long-term with that aggression, not just, you know, like, think, think like building something, not short-sighted.
• 1:10:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, we wanted to put this out here Monday evening.
• 1:10:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: So everyone can listen to it for the whole week.
• 1:11:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just worked out schedule-wise, like these next couple of days.
• 1:11:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not getting home till super late.
• 1:11:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we did it Monday night.
• 1:11:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: So hope y'all enjoyed this episode, kind of recap in the wild card games and also tying it into the Saints and Al.
• 1:11:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: they can take some notes and things in terms of game back to the playoffs.
• 1:11:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: We will, everything goes well.
• 1:11:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Who that fall said, do you go heavy and free agency for the trenches or do you be, or do you focus more on the draft?
• 1:11:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just, no man, just depends on who's available.
• 1:11:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like I just, I think you're gonna do a fridge, yeah.
• 1:11:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, yes, yes.
• 1:11:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
• 1:11:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: But what I'm gonna do tonight and put it up right after we're done
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  [SPEAKER_02]: is the voting for the next prospect of the week.
• 1:11:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to put three prospects up.
• 1:11:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then whoever wins that poll by Friday, that's who we're going to talk about.
• 1:11:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'm going to shorten it and have it be like Wednesday.
• 1:11:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: So then we can actually watch them by this weekend.
• 1:11:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we appreciate y'all coming in, watching this episode.
• 1:12:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: More come in, this off season is going to be a long off season.
• 1:12:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: But we got you covered.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: We appreciate y'all.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: We love y'all with that we are out.