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EP #7 Halloween Family Is Forever: Scout Taylor-Compton Comes Home. · Mane AF

• Scout Taylor Compton: Great. So there we go. I've I'm I've hit the dog house already. I love it. but I want to ask you first of all, because I think that she will find this very amusing. what did I do this week to get in shit? how did you piss me off this week? How did I piss you off this week? Come on. should we just talk this morning? What? What happened? I actually I don't remember. I know I was mad, I just don't remember why. See, this is I have to start taking notes about the ways that you frustrate me because now I just forget them. I'll tell you why I probably why we're still together after all these years. Maybe, but I will tell you why I'm pissed off. okay. You had decided quite a while ago, probably when I pissed you off. That we were gonna sleep in separate bedrooms and beds. I didn't decide that. No, you sure as fuck did. No, I didn't. And then you said last night when I was trying to get rest, because I'm going through the chemo stuff. I'm I'm doing fine, everybody. Thank you for asking. and you said, I'm I'm gonna come sleep with you. And the thing is, it's not just you sleeping with me, it's your whole fucking entourage. That's true. And I like being popular. And then you have Sprockett and who goes under the sheets right next to me, and then he kicks me off the bed, and then I end up on the couch down here in my man cave. And it's terrible. So that's what pissed me off. So, but what is that? I said here here okay. Here's why I send you this stuff. We are on a we are on a jaunt today. Okay. I'm telling you, I'm I'm coming out of the chemo hot. Okay. I sent you that thing. What is it called? Sleep divorce. Sleep divorce. Yes. Explain sleep divorce. I'm sure you read it. I saw it. I sent it to you. So please explain. It was a part of the way to get better sleep. And I didn't decide that we're sleeping in separate rooms, but I know that you are a huge insomniac. And since I'm a night owl and you like to go to bed early and get up early, if I stay up and I work longer and I have the dogs with me, I don't want to come in there and interrupt you. But last night. I had washed all of the bedding in the guest room because we have a house guest here, a very special house guest. And so I was forced to sleep with you last night. Fuck. No. And how long did that last? It didn't last long. Not long at all. I actually got up and came down to the basement because you were grumbling in the dark. I know. And then I came down because I was gonna watch TV. And then I And you're laying on the couch. I was like, fuck. And I had to go back upstairs and scroll. Doom scroll it. To bring it back to the question though, sleep divorce is actually a part of one of the things they say about getting better sleep because some people, lots of people, aren't aren't, aren't well suited to sleep in the same bed together. For example, you're you wake up immediately. You also used to toss and turn a lot. You don't do that since you had your hips fixed. But I like sleeping with the dogs. I like I lay in one spot. I like to have lots of Do I have these on? I just You didn't tell me I had my headphones in. Well I asked you how I looked. You look great. Great. on that note, I I do it because I care about you. Do what because you care about me? I let you sleep in the bed by yourself because I know that you can get better, more solid sleep, and sleep is an issue for you. And I love you, and that's why I do it. our guest. For this episode, very special guest. A very, very special bet guest. We go back way, way, way back. she's family. Family. Like she's come and lived with us several times, and she calls us mom and dad. Mom and dad. And you actually got ordained. Yeah, how's that we're gonna talk about that shit too on this podcast? Cause like you two ganged up on me, which really pissed me off because I heard I was down in my office and I heard. You yelled down, you're doing it. And I'm like, bullshit. Well, Scout had been talking about you being at Well, there you just blew who the guest was. I did. Spoiler. Scout. Scout. Scout. my god, I feel like I'm at my fucking house right now, fighting with my husband about nothing. not but now I get to see it from the outside in, and I'm like, fuck, am I like that? Yes, which I'm like you, Tyler. Yes. I'm like you. And Renee is like my husband. They do a lot for us, Tyler. It's pretty crazy. They do so much for us out of love. It's wild. And then we go, Why are you doing this? Because I love you, babe. Like, people tell me that Tyler says that all the time when I'm not there. As soon as I leave the room, he's like, I couldn't do it without her. She's amazing. And then I enter the room. No. I wonder what that is. Cause I do the same thing with Tom. And then when I do say things in front of him, he's like, Can you say that to me? And I'm like, my God, wait, do I like treat you horrible? Like, wait a minute, please, because you know I love you, right? And I would not be where I'm at in my life without him. And you would definitely not be where you are without Renee. But I would also not be where I am. But yes. It goes both. But it's just so funny because Tyler is so we're so similar. It's it's wild. And you and Tom are so similar. It's interesting about the bed thing because I just kind of want to circle that with my own thing. Tom is a heater and he's a fighter. He's like, he is a Twitcher and he's like fighting. So we have to, we have to, but the one thing about Tom is he can't he has to do things when I do things. Explain that. Go to bed. When I'm ready to go to bed. Eat what I'm ready to eat. Do he just likes to do things with me and he doesn't want to do them alone. And I'm like, go to fucking bed. Eat a fucking ch eat a meal. You need to eat a meal. You can't wait for me. I'm half your size. Please eat food. I feel like Tyler and I have always been a little do-it-yourselfer. But I think that's because yeah. I mean, you don't cook for me at all. But but was that always? Was that always? Or did you guys were you're still in the newlywed phase, right? I I worked in Los Angeles and I had an hour commute. So when the kids came in 2003, his schedule was all around the kids and mine was still going to work. So I was kind of like the traditional guy. We had our different versions of survival games. We did. And so had to survive the LA traffic and I had to survive the kids. Very, very similar. Because meal times were based around the kids where I was just kind of grabbing food wherever. So I think that that kind of Yeah, it's kind of it's that's pretty much the way we are now. It's us whenever we're hungry, go we go and eat and stuff like that. But going back to the bed thing, I love laying in bed and cuddling with you when it's just you, but you bring that whole entourage and it just kind of screws everything. I mean, you guys have giant fucking dogs, so I cannot imagine what your situ did you have like a king king? Like like a Cali King. Okay. A California king. Okay. We have a Cali King, but I have about two inches on the side. I mean those those dogs like they They're very demanding. Yes. So I feel like they're like, this is my spot. Jilla move it. Move it. Move it. Now what's interesting is if when cause Sprocket and Finn, the two boy dogs, follow me, Biscuit is attached to him. So she's always with him. She always sleeps in the bed with him. But I think they give each other room. Sprockett is a cuddler and he wants to lay right up against me. But when we're in the bed together, he wants to be touching both of us. And go under the sheets. Go under the covers. And then he's breathing heavy and then he has to come out. And then he's just like a pain in the ass. He's he's honestly he's the problem, but he's our OG. So he's the one who gets spoiled. I love when you I love when you were saying that you do this for Tyler Tyler to make him happy, like with like allowing him to get sleep. Cause I sort of do that with Tom when we're when we're working on a set and we're working on a film, especially when we're Like producing and directing and writing it, I will ask for two rooms so he can have his own bed and I can have my own. And it's only because I don't want to be a bitch to him. And I'm like, I just want you to have your space. This is a lot of stress. I want to come home and decompress and I just w want you to like sleep happy. Like wake up happy. I think it's really important. Because this this sometimes is, you know. It's important in a relationship to know your own weaknesses so that you can mitigate them as best possible. It's not that I don't love you and and I love I love cuddling, but he's he is a big guy and he likes to be the big spoon. His arm is so heavy. And when it goes on my rib cage and he falls asleep. God, that's the same thing with Tom. Like, we got a big couch and he loves to cuddle, and he's just so heavy. I'm like, I can't. I love it for I love it with the I'm hearing a bunch of complainers here right now. Bunch of wine. You guys are just heavy. You're so heavy. I love it when you massage my foot all night. That's great. Wait, you're who's getting foot massaged? my God, Tom, every night. Every night is massaging my feet. Moving Moving on. Well, let's see if that happens as long as when we're into the game. Who's the one who gets the foot machages in our house? Me. wow. Totally, totally, yes. We are the same. Yeah. I have always been aware from the beginning with all of his his injuries from wrestling and stuff. I'm really good. I give good back. I will say. I am I might have to experience that tonight. You give good back. I give good back. That sounds like a sex position. I live. Right. Like what? Wait a minute. Scout Taylor Compton, ladies and gentlemen. Have you listened to Talk Scary to me, the past podcast? Go listen to it. my God. I have, and we're gonna we're gonna talk about that. Okay. I had a question, but it's totally gone now. I I just this is the way this whole podcast is gonna go. I apologize. We had a We had a plan, but it's gone. No, I'm not with us. I knew there would not probably not be a plan. But I do, you guys, for people who don't know, which is probably not many people. I I thought of the Go ahead. Ask a question. I've got one. Hold it. I'm holding. I'm trying. Yes. When did you guys first meet? When did we first meet? man, Tyler, I don't think I remember our first time meeting meeting. Do you You were talking about me or her and Tom? You two. me? Do you remember? I mean, I was so young, I was seventeen. Do you I remember the first time? Yeah, you stabbed me. No, that's not the first time that we meet. Yes, it was. No, when was do you remember? Come on. You're older, so do you remember? Yeah, which means I'm not as what's the word? Cognitive or cognitively advanced. I'm cognitively declining. Wait, where did you meet me? my god, this is gonna like make me emotional. It was probably like when we were getting ready to do the Well, you were in a completely different trailer getting ready in your Michael Myers. So we were never together. Okay. We were doing the I I think we were doing the prelim because did you come in later? I came in when everybody was cast. Right. Okay. So then on what movie? For Halloween. Halloween. Y'all live under a rock. Okay. so maybe when I was testing, did I meet you? No. No, not already. I remember meeting Dee Wallace. No, we were already going into film. When I met you. Oof. When I met Dee. my God, guys. I told her this too. when I met Dee, I've obviously was testing for the role. I didn't have it. And I get into the van and I sit down and she goes from the from the back. She's like, Wow, they've been searching a lot of girls for you. She's like, Is that my she playing my mom? I was like, shit. Does she like me? She she's always like she's like, no, she's giving you shit. It's like, my God, I was scared. I was so scared. Crazy. I don't remember meeting you. I remember the day I met you. Great. It was so memorable. I love it. I was visiting craft services. Okay. Visiting set. It was craft services. It was your 18th birthday. That was the first time you met her? That was the first time I met Scout. Wow. It was the day your birthday cake came in and they did the whole Well, how late how late into filming was that? That was like towards the end. No, I wasn't. I think I I see I'm not the guy that's It was like a couple weeks, right? A couple weeks into the into filming that I turned 18. Man, that's wild. That's so wild. And we already had the rapport because you were chasing after people with cake, trying to rub it in their faces. And you came to me and I went, uh-uh. I know, I know. You stopped me, but you stopped me pretty fast. But I I went I went and chased Rob and I found him into the trailer and I smeared fucking cake all over his face. But they bought me the goddamn candles that you blow, you blow, you blow, and they don't know they people were messing with you. So I didn't know that and then I got I was like, man, the shit that we would do at like a young age in I would never do that now. What would you think about somebody who came in on set and did that to you at this point? I would be pretty stoked about it. I think I think I'd be okay. But I just like couldn't imagine doing that right now. Like working with another director and being like, you know, like there's so much shit that we can get away with at such a young age. Yeah. You know? It's pretty fucking wild. We had such good times on that set. We really did. We did. We bonded. We did. Our trailers were connected. So I remember fucking with him all the time. Like all the time. Thanks. I could hear you when you had to go fucking take a shit. my god. I was like, bro. Too much information. I don't know, but like usually I wait for the fucking person to get out of the tri trailer. I never took shit when you were in there on the other side. Just so you know. But you did all the time. Do you remember seeing the videos of me like filming him and knocking on the bathroom? I do. Like what are you doing in there? Taking a shit, 'cause I can hear it. By the time Halloween two came around, it was completely on. my God. Okay, we are so digressing. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Okay, what was your what was your question that you wrote down? they're so boring compared to No, no, okay, so so this is this is one that I that that I kind of want to ask. How long have you and Tom been married? We have been that Tom knows better than I do. Well, I should know. I was there, but I it wasn't, you know. It's two years, right? Yeah. Two years, maybe two years and three months. Woo! There you go. So look at that. Look at that. And and what did we say when people ask us how long we've been married? Too long. Yeah. That's how long we've been married. Not to mention that I think I can't imagine Tom hearing you say that. I feel like Tom would I I would crush it. It would go No, I don't know. I think he's getting better. I think he's he's realizing my sense of humor. I feel like finally. After six years, he's like, she doesn't hate me. No, she didn't mean wait, you have a sense of humor? Wow. And this podcast is done. I had to throw that over here. No, do you know how that how we met? How Tom and I met? We met on Bumble. During COVID. that's right. You did tell me this. Yeah. During COVID times. And, you know, we weren't supposed to be going to each other's homes. It took me, first of all, it took me three months to meet him for the first time. Three months. On bumble? Yeah. I was like, I just didn't want to, you know, strangers. Stranger danger guys. Were you talking through Bumble? Yeah, we were talking through Bumble. We were FaceTiming, sending videos. I was sending videos. He was not sending them back. We were just communicating. And I was like an an insane person where I would check the bumble and you could see the person like the last time that they logged on. And so I would check it and I'd be like, So he got on bumble, but he didn't respond to me. So who the fuck is he talking to? Yeah, it was going crazy. Really? But anyways, so we met on our first date at his house. And watched hereditary and I brought over like these drinks and we had drinks. Well, he was trying to get me to his ranch that he he used to break wild horses and he used to work on this ranch and it was like in Fullerton, like two two hours away. And he wanted that to be our first day. And I was like, You want me to get in a fucking car with you and drive two hours away. And go to some some ranch. Somewhere in the middle of nowhere. And stay the night with you? Are you are you horror films? Yeah. I was like, I know how he says that he is no he had no idea who I was, nor did he look me up. I was like, You're fucking lying. I was gonna say bullshit. You're fucking Yeah, 'cause you you you've got a pedigree in this Did you not look him up at all? Tyler? Yeah. Well I mean we were in the days before the internet was. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Back in them days. I mean, I met him not knowing who he was. How was that guy? I'm just kidding. I met him not knowing who he was, but was very quickly educated by the people standing around me because we were at a comic book convention. that's right. That's right, you guys met you. So I yeah, so I sort of knew who he was. Yeah. Pretty quickly. But Yeah. We're here talking. Yes. I kept it short. I mean You did. You actually did. Thank you. Thank you. Because we've heard that a lot. Yeah, it's just so wild, like how you how you meet like your person. When did you know Tom was the one? Or when did you start to suspect? I don't think there I this is what I knew. I knew that we were communicating and and enjoying each other's company for a bit and then he I was going off to do a shoot for like Two and a half months. And then he was going off to go work in London. He's gonna probably hate that I say this, but our last date that we had before we were about to just like part ways, he dropped me off at my house after having dinner, and then he hugged me and just was like, okay, bye. And I was like, Okay, bye. And I walked back into my place and I texted him and I said, I think we should not communicate and end this. I was like, That's what you're gonna do on your last day with me? You're just gonna be like, bye, see you later. He just broke up with him. Well, but wait, my god, you are Tyler. But I was like, you didn't even ask to stay over? You didn't like n you like nothing? Nana? You didn't Did you invite him in? What? Huh? Wait, okay. No. Come on. I'm I'm on Tom's side here now. How long have you guys been going out? Like for like a good four months. Like solid. Like solid. Like solid. Tom, I can't help you on this one. This is that. So but but then he turned the car around and he came and I was like, dude. I was like, what you thought that was like the that's how you were gonna send off? I'm not gonna communicate with you after that. This is like I'm like, where do we go from here? What do we do? I also was like in a place where, you know, dating in Los Angeles and dating at that age too, is just like they're i it was just ridiculous. Like it was, you know, nobody was in to commit. Nobody really does commit nowadays. There's so much candy and in the and so much cookies in the cookie jar. So nobody really has to anymore. So I was just like, I don't wanna waste my time if you know, I don't wanna my emotions while I'm about to go film. Right. Yeah. Well, but at least you listened to me and found a good man this time. Did you like any of my boyfriends? we liked we liked us. We liked it, yeah. What? What do you mean for you? We thought they were great people. We loved hanging out with them. Like they were great. But looking at you, not good enough for one of my kids. Right. That's crazy. You guys never said it once to me. my god. If we said it once, if I said it once, I said it a hundred times. I'm sure Tyler did. said to me like that's what that guy's an idiot. how many times did I say, another rocker? Okay, great. This is gonna go That doesn't mean scout, what are you doing? That's fucking horrible. Pretty much. Abort mission. Like abort it. Sab it. Get away from it. Pretty much. Pretty much. I mean you at least you rescued me every single time after Those those horrible relationships. Well, because you show up on the doorstep crying, going, with my whole life. I know. My whole life packed in my Toyota Camry. That barely was fucking driving. I was like, Can I move in? And I was like, sleepover. Yay. Let me let me do a blow-up mattress and take over your office. To be fair, you did have the futon. I did I did have the Probably the blowout mattress on top of it though, because I think the the middle had a little bit of a my God. I just like it's it's cr it's crazy talking about now because I can't imagine what you guys were feeling like as I was like just calling you, bawling my eyes out, saying that I ended my engagement and like can I come stay with you guys? Like, like that's so crazy. But I'm gonna go I mean, I get it. You guys are you guys are like my mom and dad, so I g I get it 'cause I'm obviously gonna go through some of these experiences, but Yeah, but it's family and and and yeah. I'm honored that you would come to us and say, Hey, I'm going through this. Yeah. You know? And and that's what we're there that's what we're here for, you know. We've we've I'm gonna cry. I don't wanna cry. We got Kleenex. this is so sweet. Yeah. Well I mean we've had we've had some Ups and downs and some serious times together, man. I've known you since you were 17 years old, kid. And this is a very rare relationship in the world of film. Yeah. So many people. I mean, we were just talking with Zach about how it's so common, you know, you really bond with people, build these relationships, and then filming ends and you never see them again. Yeah. So yeah, or you come across them every once so think about that foundation, that sort of way of thinking. Because I got in this industry at eight years old, that being my foundation, especially like filming was like me constantly looking for family members. I was just looking for family. And so you would become so close. It's like very magnetic for like what seems like a lifetime. And then as soon as that is done, nobody communicates and no one interacts or ever talks to each other again. And just to go over that, like over and over and over and over. Like that's kind of what it felt like for my family foundation was that like constant just like they're not there for you. They're so it was so it's very hard for me to go to people and ask for people for things. So even me calling you guys and crying to you and asking for a place to to stay and live was so hard for me. And even during the ex like me staying there, I was like dying inside. and I was I was like, Yay. I know, but isn't that cra isn't that crazy it makes obviously think about it, that's you Well you think about when a family breaks up. Yeah. The trauma of a family breaking up. Yeah. And you as a small child internalizing that and through your teenage years, it's just trauma after trauma after trauma. Yeah. that made I'm gonna cry. Well shit, guys, where's the vodka? Where's the tequila? No, that'll make more crypto. You start you did start. I'm gonna get back to one of the actual questions that we had to do. we have actual questions? You do? I thought we were getting some done here. Yeah, well, we're talking about cool stuff, but you started so young in and and found success so young in a a very adult career that most people spend teenage years, 20 years building toward, and it fell in your lap. At what point or at any point did you realize that you were in this career and that maybe you didn't want it? Was there any point when I ran away that you questioned it and thought about doing something else? Yeah. When I ran away at 14 years old and it became like this huge news thing. And I I think I I think I've hit those moments in my career so many times. Even still now as an adult, sometimes I hit that. But but the thing was, it it it wasn't that I didn't enjoy acting or I wanted away from it. It it really is what it what it took from me, which was like this family that I've been searching for. Like my family is not how do I say how do I put how do I put this? My family we're not much of a family. So I think I always, I think as a kid, especially that young, I think was like, Was is this why? Like acting and and is this tearing this family dynamic apart? Like is this I I kept blaming it on that kids always blame themselves. For sure. A hundred and always. I will always do that. And I will never point fingers at anybody else, but I I will always look at myself first. so I had I had this situation where I was being pushed to become a pop star. When I was not a singer really. And then, like, no matter what I did, whether it was sports or it was like I did that commercial or a monologue or whatever, I would always get grilled afterwards. And I'd always be told what I did wrong rather than like, you were so amazing. And that was it was always that was embarrassing. This what was that? You know, it was just it was never that. So I just had enough of it. And I remember one morning I twist I I twisted the little knobs on the tires that hold the hold hold the Aaron. Yeah, I went to that extent because I didn't want to go fucking sing a song on a goddamn stage. And so I didn't want I was like, well, maybe the tires will go flat and we won't be able to go. Yeah, but cause I couldn't communicate. I wasn't allowed to communicate that I didn't want to do something. How did this I I feel like I've never heard of But I had to go an insane amount of length, like, I don't want to do something. You were trying to sabotage your own career. I was just trying to I was just trying to like, I just wanted somebody to talk to me and like and find out how I was feeling and what I wanted to do and what what I thought. Like I just wanted those conversations to happen and they weren't happening. And so I didn't know. how to how to do it. And so I did that. And then I just packed a bag and I ran away. It I ran away. I I went, I made it to my I made it to a skate park and I lived in this skate park for like, yeah, guys, you guys didn't know this is crazy. Actually, I don't think I've talked about like what I did on this two week journey. I lived in the skate park for like a few, a few nights. Which by the way is one of the most dangerous skate parks ever. And the fact that I was there as a young girl is insane. Like the fact that something bad didn't happen to me is crazy. and then I just met some, some kids that kind of like housed me around my town. Really? Yeah. And I and I stayed there and I got caught because one of the kids was like, I guess saying something to s some kids at his school. They were like bragging about, yeah, movie star is at my house kind of thing. And then one day the cop showed up and hauled you away. Hauled me away and took me back to my mom and my dad. And I don't think we ever talked about it. And I think after that it was like there's alarm systems on the door and like there was like locked like car, like, you know, so it just got worse. I was like, Well fuck. I was like, this is not what I what I wanted. But yeah, I just wanted I just wanted a pause. I just wanted a second to like figure it out. And didn't have the ability to communicate that clear. Yeah. take me back to the music. Cause I how did what what was that about? A pop star, when did you start singing? Scout? How did I not know that? It's really my God, there's like things on the internet of like me singing and like videos and obviously bad at the internet. I mean I mean, well, I get it. Like Young kids, you know, having to be triple threats. Like I I understand that. But then it went to an extreme of like, we're gonna make an album. And I was like working with vitamin C. There is an album. Is it available? I don't think so. I think a song is available, but I don't I don't think so. But can we my mom actually also wrote those? Like she wrote the mu like she wrote the songs. I had no idea. Yeah. And I was like, okay, I just think this. Okay, cool. It's just it was weird. It was really, really, really weird. do I regret any of it? No, because like look at where I'm at right now. But I do wish I had some sort of a childhood. I wish there was some of those experiences. I mean, I graduated at 14 so I could work as an adult. Like my education stopped at 14 years old. Took the GED test just so I can work as an adult. And then come when I was 18. They're like, You ready for college? I'm like, Are you fucking out of your mind? You think I'm gonna go what? Yeah. You know, so then also too in your your your brain, it's like, well, I guess this is all I can do. So let me stay in this business. So it was all it was really hard in my twenties trying to like i is this all that I'm good at? What else can I do? 'Cause I don't know what else I can do because this is what I've been told I should do since I was eight. Well, but let l let's even go back from the fourteenth to the seventeen. Do you remember some of the conversations we had? about investing and everything on set and and we had those talks. Yeah. Cause I didn't know I didn't learn any of that stuff. I also had preparing for a future. Yeah. Well I also had, you know, my my mom was taking care of my finances for a very, very long time. But when you don't know and you don't learn to do that stuff, you don't know how to do any of that stuff on your own. It's actually you and like my boyfriends that finally were like, okay, you're old enough and you've got to start doing things on your own. Yeah. You know, like you gotta know where your money's going, what's happening with it. Like y you know, you know how to do taxes? Like shit like that. Like I just wasn't wasn't aware of any of that stuff. In a weird way you were pushed to be an adult in some areas super early and in some ways you were kept very young. Very young. Yeah, I'm absorbing all of this. Cause this I feel like it's not like I'm interviewing or talking to somebody I don't know. It's we've known each other for so long. This is really interesting. And I feel like I'm I'm in the past like four to five years, I've done a lot of work on myself where I'm very good, and I don't know about you being a creative and being an actor, I'm very good at I I call them building blocks in my mind. Where I can place a memory or something that doesn't serve me, and I can put it somewhere in my brain that I will not remember it. Yeah. Yeah. I store stuff away all the time. But I've been doing that for so long that it's like I have to like dig through and break through the wall to really start remembering these things. And that's been that's been happening a lot with me in the past like five years. I feel like that's healthy. If com completely. Because I'm also like able to be like, I'm I'm talking to a lot of my like my inner child right now. I'm like, it's okay to feel these things. It's okay that you went through this. And you know, like let's like hold this and let's put this in a safe space rather than like digging it deeper into a hole. Well, all your experiences are who you are today and using those to move yourself forward is what you have to do. And like for me. You know, being a tall skinny kid, glasses, braces picked on all the time. I mean, I used that to empower me to get to where I am today. Yeah. And that's what you have to do, you know? But like, so so with you and Tom, what I want to get on to too is you guys have a very I want to say dynamic relationship, but it's it's amazing. Like you guys are like a power couple. Has has anybody ever said that to you guys? yeah. Because you guys work together, you guys work together so So well. my gosh. I've seen that. It's so funny that you say that. But you know, people say that about us too. Yeah. But behind the scenes. I'm like, the dysfunction. That's the word I was thinking about. Okay, okay, okay. That's that is the same way with us. It's like everybody says, you guys, you know, you work so great together, but then it's like behind the scenes, we're like barely working. Yeah. Your dynamic is a lot like Tom. And ice dynamic. I feel like I'm I'm the creative. I'm the one that has all the ideas. I'm the one that wants to execute. And Tom is more the logical. Okay, this is how we're gonna get A to B. And I'm like, okay, cool, but I wanna, I, I wanna create alphabets in between the A and B that we need to be able to do. Because I'm the creative and I need to do 17 things to do to get from A to B. So it can be interesting. So that's how we work. But he's he's he's more of the producer brain. I'm more of the creative brain. So it does work, but it also there is conflict 'cause I do feel like I don't want it to feel like the scout show. And I want Tom to feel like he is his own person and that he wants to be on this journey with me. But I also think that I'm pushing him to be something that he might not be able to see. There's a lot of like learning curves in there. that sounds just like it's completely like you guys. Identical completely like you guys are. I mean, when they say that you marry your dad, like if you fucking look at Tom, you look at Tyler, even the way that he fucking walks and he gets on and off of the couch and the noises that he fucking makes, I'm like Okay, wait. my god, this is fucking Tyler. Like we stop. I always tell Tom, I'm like, you t stop it. This I cannot marry Tyler. It's crazy. But yet he married you. Technically. Got ordained ordained to marry you. And that was very special. Yeah, by the way. That was, but I still don't know if it's legal. I don't know if it's legal either. You're just saying it's legal, right? No, I said, do have we ever got our marriage certificate? He said no. I was like, Well, we barely mailed it in time. Are you sure that we're married? I got a video of me signing it, so we were drunk as fuck You were wearing those giants photo booth or whatever. I think Danielle was biting my tush. Yeah. Yeah, there was a lot happening. Yeah. A lot. While we were signing those contracts, those binding contracts. Yeah. So I I'm just gonna bring this back to you as a young creative was sort of pushed and shaped by other people. But you have had this amazing renaissance where you are now writing and producing and doing podcasts and creating all this content. You know why? Why? Because I'm finally like discovering my voice for the first time in my fucking life. And it's insane. It's insane that this this vortex is open. I mean, it's going to what I'm talking about, like being younger and not being able to communicate and not be able to tell people what I want, what I want to do, you know, how I'm feeling. It's taken me a like to my mid-30s to find who who I am and what I want to say. Like what has been what I've been wanting to say my entire life. So I feel like I'm a teenager. I feel like I'm like, Just got into middle school and I feel like I'm making friends for the first time. I feel like people are listening to me and it's a community effort. Like it's I I feel like I'm I'm finally being able to get those young years back and expression. So you feel like you're evolving. Yeah. And then so now where do you see yourself 10, 15, 20 years from now? I don't, I don't still in the business or I don't know. I don't really like to look That far in advance because I feel like I've I've done that my entire life, especially when you're in the industry. You're always like, Well, what's next? You're gonna look like for me. What's next gonna be for me? And I'm trying not to to live like that. And I really just wanna live in the present. And I really wanna like ride this wave that I'm I'm I'm on right now. And if I get off, I get off. But if I don't, I don't. If I do something else, I do something else. Like I just kind of wanna be in the present. I I don't think we give our ourselves that, especially in this industry. Right. Yeah. Ex well exactly. I don't even think that we soak in things when things are like rewarding and good for us and we actually book something huge. We don't even enjoy it. No, exactly. You know, you go you book something, then you're like, god, I gotta go film this shit. And then now it's like, yeah. Yeah. You sound master syndrome getting there feeling like Yeah, can I do this? Then it comes out and it feels like it's already so far in the Review mirror because you're on to the next things, but now you have to promote it. I mean, it it is a really it's a crazy industry. It is. And so and now you and Tom have made the exodus from LA like a lot of people have, like we did. And you guys have moved out and are setting up a a life. Is that since this is about midlife marriage and mayhem? Mayhem. Mayhem. She had to c I know she had to correct me on that. is this something that you guys just decided to do? Or or was it had you been planning this for from moving on into your It's it's like our our how I was telling about our relationship when I was like, Are we something or are we not something? It's very much me going, This is gonna happen or it's not gonna happen, you know. And we were living in his apartment for five, like four to five years. I'm like, we're not shifting, we're not changing, we're not investing, nothing's happening. So I've got to go somewhere else. Like, we I've got to go do something. And so it was like, are you coming with me? Are you not? She is you. So it was you. It was you. I love Or else you're gonna stay stagnant. I can't. I can't. I agree. I fully agree. I'm I'm a flowy person. I I I can't I I cannot stay trapped. And I am a nester. Tom is a nestor! I want to have my place. I want to have my home. I which is beautiful. It becomes like my little snail shell. But what I we were in an apartment. Right. That was his apartment. Like we weren't we weren't nesting yet. I was like, let's get to the nest. Yeah, let's guess. Well, we're not nesting either. I need another house with more bedrooms, apparently, because it's either that or the couch at night. Or or Lysander goes. That's the other option. Hey Lysander, you gotta get out. what I love about today, you were showing us pictures of stuff that you're planning for your new home, and it's beautiful. And what makes me so happy is that I just keep having this time warp back to when you were, I don't know, you were in your early twenties. Like it was there was some point where I said to Tyler, Scout needs the white picket fence. Yeah. She's looking for the white picket fence and she's looking in the wrong places because these are not the The people who are gonna give her a white picket fence. It's gonna be on the road all the time. Yeah, you were looking at the fairground. Right. And so I was looking at the tour buses. I was like, Yeah, it's good. Put a fence out there. It's it makes me kind of weepy because when I said that and now seeing that you found it, I don't know, it just it makes me makes my heart. Well, it makes me so. if we pull up to your house with that done in there's a white pickup vents, I'm gonna go damn it. Take that thing down. But it's it's it is interesting because we have that, but Tom is a lot like me, where he he is a Nestor, but isn't as well. Like he's very he's thinking of this house being our starter home. I'm like, what? This is our starter home? Well, it kind of is. But we haven't even got this a five bedroom, four bedroom. What are you talking about? Well hey, some people, Tom, how old are you? How old are you? That's a lot to take care of. This is the conversation he and I have, which is like, We haven't even moved in the fucking house and it's our starter house. Well, it is your starter. It is your starter house. It's your first house. It's your starter home. I have never had a home. I have never had a home where I could like Paint walls and buy furniture. Like I've never an unpack. I've never had that. So I'm like, just give me a year. Just give me a year with it. Give me a year. He's like very investment. And now immediately you get your starter home and you're leaving. That's what he predicts. He predicts Yes. Yes. No, no, no. So our house, our house is dirt right now. It's dirt. So our house will be built by the time we come back from Spain on our our next job. Wow. So by the time we get back, which is kind of sad because we won't see the the process. The process at all. So we're gonna have friends make videos. We're gonna have his family go and do like the frame walkthrough. Like, yeah, it's gonna be his family lives his so his family lives in Kentucky. so they're so we just moved to Nashville. So it's like close, not too close, but close. Close enough. Gotcha. Yeah. So now let's talk about your transition into directing from film. Yes. Now I had the opportunity to work with you on a film. You could have given me a little bit bigger part, but that's okay. It's okay. It's all right. But it was just so amazing watching you work as a director. I saw that and I was just so in awe. You that is what you're meant to do, kid. That is so what you're meant to do. And and can you tell about that project? Which which is kind of weird how That came around to your diagnosis. It's fucking crazy. So I lost I lost my mom to cancer, my biological mom, who I didn't really grow up with. And just as we were about to be in each other's lives, after I like found the strength to be like, it's okay to talk to my mom, you know, like I I I created that, you know, my my that family, that side is so different than what I grew up with. We were communicating and she got diagnosed with colon cancer. And she was very much like me, where she didn't wanna she doesn't want she didn't want to bother me with her sickness and like how she how sh how her rough days. So she was like, Let me just get better. I'm almost done with chemo and then we'll start our relationship. And I got a call actually while I was filming a movie, from my sister, my half sister, and she said, Hey, you need to come down here. And I said, Yeah, I I'm planning on coming down after I'm done with this for three days. She's like, no, she's not gonna make it. You have to come down. And so this was it in the beginning of Tom and I's relationship. And he picked me up from set and we drove down to Hemet, California. And we drove into I didn't know that she lived so close. It's crazy. Like, I didn't know that she lived so close. I didn't know like how she lived. And we pulled in and I had Tom wait in the car because I was like, this is gonna be too much for you. And it was around Christmas. And I walk into this her home, and it is decked out for Christmas. Like, like head to toe, like everything. And there are tons of people in there. So my my half side, my mom is Spanish. So very family forward. Like they, you know, they're very, they celebrate death and she was there like laying on like a hospital bed in the middle of the room, and all the kids were like running around and like all neighbors were coming in and out with like casseroles and all this shit. And I'm just like walking into this like thing, and you know, I I saw my sister after so long and I sort of said my Goodbye to her, which I'm making it seem like it was 10 minutes, but it was a long time. and then I left, and then within like 30 minutes, she passed. It's almost like she was waiting for you. A hundred percent. And you know, that was really hard for me to process. And you know, you know all everything about me, especially that. And I went into a really dark. place, very, very dark place. And I was trying to figure and process what I was feeling. what I was the years that it took me to to find her, like I just this so much stuff was coming was coming out. And so I went and I tried to find like self-help like places to help me like sort of figure out where to put this grief. Yeah. And I support groups. Support groups. Anything. Cause I, you know, I done SLA, I done, you know, Al Anon, like I'd done a lot of like things like that. And it really, really helps me. I like being in a group thing where I'm working with someone, I'm working on a book and we're like, you know, we're doing things. so I stumbled upon young kids that had had cancer and they it was like a support group. And I th I thought it was for adults, but it was kids and I was I was on this thing. And you know me. I'm I'm really like young at heart and like my my voice is very young. So I like to write from that. And so When I was in this support group with these kids, and you know, I was listening to their stories and and they were very much wanting to be seen as alive. They didn't want to be seen as like a kid that was sick. They really were sharing like these beautiful, like magical stories. And so I went home and I was looking at like movies that we have that have the example of cancer. And I was looking for the the daughter or the the parent and the child sort of relationship. And all of the cancer movies that we had were very much about like the love interest, like love, finding love and finding love. And there was never really an example of that. So then I I wrote it. And I wrote it within like two weeks. And it was really fast. And I had just worked with Ryan Kier Kieran Armstrong in a video game. And I was like, she's perfect. Like, let me just send it to her, send it to her dad. And they read it and they called me within like two days and they were like bawling their eyes out. And they were like, This is like we have to execute this and we have to do this. And Tom was like, Let's do this. If this is what you want to do, let's do it. And so I went and found the money. And we like had it up and running like two months later. And then four months later, five months later, we were like shooting. And it it was it is insane how fast it was. But it just tells you like when you have something so special that comes from something that's, you know, meaningful, it just it just hits different, you know? And I just wanted everybody that was a part of that production, I I just wanted it to feel like a family. And so when I did when I heard that you were gonna be in town since we shot in Tulsa, I was like, I know it's small, but I was like, I really want like family to be involved in this. So I called Tyler. But Tyler, yeah, he he was the spoiler alert, he's the hotel hotel clerk. And he says like three things. Yeah. More lines than he had in Halloween. Yeah, actually, I actually gave you some lines. Okay. you two, you two. You too. He's gonna r he's gonna regret. But I wonder, I wonder I wonder what what was it like what was that experience like seeing where you see me and and and being on that set. It was crazy because like I I was there talking with Tom and at the trailers and then I came walking around and I saw you as the director. You c it was it was chilly, you had your and you had your headset on and you were this like you were directing. You know, you still can't believe it. No, no, no, you know how it is. Like, usually a director doesn't really they're like, yeah, I just do the yeah, go, yeah, yeah, okay, you got this. But you had, you were very hands-on. You were very making sure everything, the shot was where you wanted it. And I was like, there's my kiddo. There's my kiddo. That's so nice. Yeah. That's so and then it was a proper set too. You were taken care of. You didn't have to struck it was a well to a degree. You had your own trailer. I made sure you had a trailer. Handed me my two lines. Say this. Now go home. Yeah. It was great. Yeah. But no, it was the when you we did the spec shoot for the the cooking show. yeah. yeah, that was that was really that was a lot of fun. Yeah. I mean, I feel like we've kind of Gotten to see you in a little bit with different hats on, but I feel like I've been wearing those hats for so long. I mean, I've been I've been designed to be this person since I was a kid. I I just can't believe it's taken me so long to like see it. I feel like other people have seen it. Cause it's it's it's interesting when I when I do tell people that I'm directing and this is kind of like I mean, it's like full speed ahead. They're like, yeah, finally. Yeah. Well, that totally makes sense. But I mean, it's not just directing, it's directing, it's writing. Yeah. Now you're going back and doing some acting. I mean, like you have your hands in everything, which is really cool. And then you did the podcast and we the Mortician's daughter, the short. That was that yeah, that was that that was like twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen. Was it? I think so. Really? I think so. So long ago. I've done so many things. Yeah. I mean, that you just have to. You have to like, you have to think outside the box in the industry. You can't just be a a one laner. It's not gonna work anymore. And and you have to believe in yourself, or else nobody else is gonna believe in you. Yeah. So is there anything that you learned from other directors and producers that you were like? I think I learned a lot from Rob. I really did. I I I I loved how hands on Rob was. Like he was very hands-on. He would arrive at set. He would be working on, you know, with the production designer. He'd be spray painting the set. And that's very much like me. I always apologize to my first AD. I'm always like, I'm so sorry, but I'm never gonna sit in this chair and you're going to be following me around. Because I'm I'm I'm just like I need to go and get my hands dirty and like feel the things, feel people's emotions. And I'm also very good at adapting to different people's energy versus what you need and what you need. Like then I expect that probably comes from being a kid coming up in the industry and learning to try to be everything for everybody. But I want everybody to have a good time. I really do. And I like movie making is is a beautiful experience that not a lot of people get to experience. And so I don't want people to go into this This set and like have a miserable time. There's no reason for it. And I love problem solving and I love problem solving with others. Like there's something that I'm not strong on that you are strong and you are strong. So let's work together to figure it out. That's another thing too. It's like not an I. Yeah. I like that I have that. Well, and that's the thing. Let's like going through the trenches. You want to go through the trenches of a movie set with people that you know and are gonna have a good time with because All it takes is one bad apple on set and it can just turn shitty. Real that's why I don't care about I I really want to work with people that work well with others. I've gotten so many phone calls about people asking me, like, what's this person like and I I'll be honest. I'll be like, it wasn't the best experience. I don't care about that. Well were they did they know their lines? I'm like, that's cra like I don't want to work with people that are not a like. Nice to be around. Yeah. Like there's too many peop talented fucking people in the world. There's too many talented people that can come and do your job and do it probably better. Like there's no time to waste on, you know, bad energy. So I g I let's change shift okay to there is one one question that I I decided to ask. We're shifting back. Woman to woman. my god. Okay, I'll it's weird. It's weird that we're having my crypt tonight. I know it's funny because feel like I f I feel like that's what I've always loved about you is that you're a little bit of the tomboy. Yeah. I feel like you and I kind of both gravitate toward hanging out with yeah. Like women are hard. They're different are hard on each other. Yes. Yeah. and it's funny for me that we're doing a midlife podcast and we're bringing you on because to me you'll always be I know the little kid. Same with Lysander. I'm like, he's 30? What are you talking about? He's a fucking 10-year-old. I know, right? But you used to babysit on set. I know. wow. Do you like feel? Yes. and because they they say all these rules, right? There's all these rules about entertainment and how It is difficult for women to get older, just in general. And it's difficult for women to get older in this industry. I see you really blossoming. do you find that age is more of a help for you, or do you find it to be the hindrance that everybody says it is? man. I mean, mentally, it's fucked me. Mentally and personally, I'm like, wait a minute. I gotta have a kid like tomorrow, or else I can't have a kid. But how can I have a kid bouncing and going do this, do this? And then I think about my partner. And I'm like, Tom, I'm like, you're gonna be it while I do this and this, but does he want that? It's a fucking mind fuck. It's a it's a massive mind fuck for sure. And what about roles coming in? Do you like the roles that you're getting as as they age up with you? It's wild. I haven't even like looked at an audition. Like I haven't even looked at anything for the past three years. Well, and it's also been very dead. Yeah. In the industry. I I just I I think my my team is very confused. They're like, so we what you're doing you're doing like three movies a year and when do we submit you for anything? Right. so at some point I feel like I I want to go back. I am gonna go back next year. Tom wrote something that where I would be playing a mother. So that'll be interesting to touch to touch that for sure. That'll be different. But like I haven't I have yet to like sort of go over that hump or I just haven't gotten the opportunity to to to maneuver into adulthood, still playing the twenty year old, twenty eight year old girls. Well, y I mean you still look really, really young on your energy, as you say. You do have a young do. Young vibrant energy and that's what maybe when I pop one out, then maybe maybe the mom will come in to me and I'll be like, I am ready to be a mom. Let me play those roles now. You were like, God. I can see you as the young mother. Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. I played like like, you know, I've been going out for like a lot of young cops, like stuff like that. More of like the edge, edgier girls. you have a lot of projects on the go right now. Yeah. So you're about to you you've just finished Road to Recovery. Yes. you had your short that you did that was so beautiful. Tell me the name of it again. Building blocks. Building blocks. It was so beautiful. and I know I when I saw it, I was just like, I am so proud of you. I just I we could say that over and over again. I can't wait for you to watch Road to Recovery tonight. I'm so excited to see it. Yes. and now you're about to go film in Spain. Yes. Did you write this one as well? I did. my gosh. and what else, like how many other projects are you starting to So we have Last Chance Motel that Danielle and I co directed together. what is the release? it's in October. I can't say the official date just yet. it's in October. I go and do press for that. and then I have a TV show that I directed called Whatever Happened to Daisy that's being shopped around that hopefully comes out in the beginning of next year. And then I wrote some books that'll be dropping soon. How are those dropping? Are you doing I'm self-publishing, baby. Yeah. Fuck it. I actually wrote one for Road to Recovery to come out before the movie. I was living s in in that space after we we rapped. And I was like, I want there's more to tell. So I just made it a made it a book. And then the Diaries and Mortician's daughter, I made that into a book. I wanted to ask you about this too, because Tyler and I have been talking about this and we're gonna talk about it on the podcast, but People have different ways of dealing with the idea of death. Yeah. Right. And and planning, which in your midlife becomes a thing, right? And I just lost my father. So I learned in real time how important it is to have everything organized for your family. It's the most kind thing you can do for your family in their time of mourning. and Tyler and I having kind of had some friction, light friction, over a lot of friction. Yeah. A lot of friction. Tyler was like, la la la, I don't want to talk about you just don't want to talk I avoid death. Yeah. I don't want to talk about death. I was like it freaked me out. Do know where that comes from? I no idea. I Chicken little, I don't know. I I'm just like I just avoid Like in your past, like in your young years, or seeing somebody, or seeing maybe even an animal or something. Well, we're going Sorry, sorry. Like whenever I talk to people, you know, they're there were so deep. It's like you think it's gonna be a fun light podcast, and then you me on your word like I like it. It's like and what I like is when you ask the questions, he'll answer them. When I was really young and I remember a kid on our baseball team ended up dying. He got hit by lightning. He was out on the golf course and got hit by lightning. Mm-hmm. And then he was there one day and then gone the next. Yeah. And I didn't go to the funeral. Mm-hmm. And it was That was kind of rough. And then seeing my my grandma pass and so I I d I don't know. I just think I've avoided it. Yeah, it disassociates from it. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't have that luxury as because I was living in January where my father was the mortician and the coroner. So I I think I saw like more dead bodies before. Like the age of like 10, that any child should ever see. And I was going to like cases with my dad. So I was seeing them in different arrays, different causes, different whatever. And then I had an example of my father who could somehow be this happy, jolly man after just handling a body or handling a loved one and like being able to like be there for these strangers. It was, it was just an a weird thing to process and to see. And like the smell, like I re I know what like burning flesh, like I can tell when I'm near a mortuary and I smell like that. I can t I can tell like burning flesh. And the flowers, I hate the fucking smell of flowers. Funeral flowers, I hate it. I hate I hate that smell. It's the worst. Well, and you did say you used to take naps in coffins. Well, I had a coffin. It was my four named Willie. Thank you very much. So how does that So it doesn't bother? So it doesn't bother you. So it doesn't bother you. So how are you? Wait, wait, wait. I want to go back because you asked 27,000 of them. I wanted to ask why. I just wanted to ask what. Ask your question. Ask your question. Forgotten. Have have you and Tom gone to a mortuary? No. Looked at preparing for for for the future of stuff like that. or are are you not at that stage? Of like death getting dressed up. A trust setting up a trust. I actually just brought brought it up. I wonder if it was because we were communicating on the phone. I did bring it up. I was like, what happens? And I I always think because Tom's older than me, I'm like, what happens? If I'm left alone and you leave me with the kid because you die. I was like, What's gonna happen? So we have sort of talked about it. Have we made the steps? No. But I think it's v a a really responsible thing to to do. well you're starting to take the steps now because you guys are still early on in your relationship. Yeah. And making the steps and preparing, which is what we recommend highly recommend everybody do because we've seen it firsthand and and we've created a trust and and all that. We lived dangerously for a long time. I mean, what happened? Yeah, because I was avoiding it. Tom is doing stunt work. I know. And something happened. I mean, he did. He got bucked off by a horse and like fucking punctured his lung and broke. We weren't married at that time. So it was really scary experience or any anything. I mean, life is Yeah. Got one life. Yeah. You never know when it's gonna end. Yeah. Absolutely. So true live it live it up with any situation too. You've seen us go into our midlife. Yeah. Have you seen us do anything with our midlife that you go, wow, I wanna live life like that and do that? Or or has it been like, fuck, I'm not going into midlife like those two? It's it's it might be a strange question to ask me because you've always been the adults in my eyes. We've always been like you've always been the dad and the mom. Like you always have been. But I think obviously, Tyler, I have learned from you. And obviously, Renee, I have learned from you because look at Tom O'Connell. Pretty much a fucking like, like if you two had a baby, it would have been Tom O'Connell. I I mean, kind of, a hundred percent. So I think I learned a lot from you because I married you. I don't know how Tom's gonna feel about it. I literally fucking married to you two. And it's driving me nuts. I don't know. I don't know if I should feel good about that. I apologize. It's crazy. I was just thinking that on the way here. I was like, Tom is literally Renee and Tyler. Like to a fucking T. He shouldn't be here. But then I also say a lot of the time that you and Tyler are so much alike. I mean, even just today when you were talking, and I was like, She has she is parodying. Where the where the energy, where the where we're the go get we create stuff, we do stuff. It's like there's gonna be a perfectionist. He is a perfectionist, yes. Do you think that gets in his way? yeah, and that's where I come in. So true. Yeah. That is so true. I will just I will throw shit that wind, I'll go do something, I'll start it. And she goes, what are you doing? I'm like, look it, we'll figure it out. Yeah. We we we're gonna go down the road. We're gonna figure it out. We'll change course as we go. Can you do multiple things? Like, can you do like, is that maybe that's just a man thing? Maybe Tyler, this is for you. Can you not handle like do you have to only do one thing at a time? No. I I I'm gonna answer for him. He Why? What what are you talking about? I mean, well, I like that like if I'm focusing on something, I will do I will do one thing at a time. I'll complete that or get it as far down the road as I can, then I'll move on to my next task. The far, the far as you get it is that like, Renee. Yep. Yeah. That's me. I'm like, I gotta hear. Tom. But you get it to the end. And what you were saying today is like I need to be doing six or seven things to get anything done. And I have the same impulse, I have the same need because I I have to have deadlines in order to f to move forward. Yeah. And you were saying you have ADHD and I was never diagnosed, but the older I get, the more I'm convinced I would have been because I have all of you've got all of them, baby. You have ADHD, A degree. I couldn't imagine thinking like a normal person. Like when Tom is telling me like I can only do one thing at a time. Like, what is that like? Like, that must be so boring just to do one thing at a time. It like I have to I love having seven things. D dude, that's why I have so many scripts done. Cause I'm like, there are like seven things are open on my laptop. And when I get stuck on one, I'll go to the other one until I get stuck, and then I'll go to the other one until I get stuck. And then I like I just am like, and I know that this this definitely contributes to my overwhelm. But the flip of it is when I have a a problem or I hit sort of a wall on something and I'm mulling it over in my brain and I flip to do something else, my brain is still processing that other problem. okay. It's not necessarily optimal for focusing on different things, but sometimes, especially when you're writing, for example, if you put something aside and you start working on something else, all of a sudden you're like, aha. Yeah. It just it just comes because you totally took your mind off of it. And as somebody who's a perfectionist, I have to have something pushing me through. So that I will go at eighty, otherwise I will just noodle. I will I will just overthink and lament over I'll never go at Yeah. I I'm so sorry. Cause I I couldn't imagine being an overthinker and being a perfectionist and like constantly like, did I do that right? Did I like that's horrible? yeah. And if I interrupt her. yeah. shit. Spiral. It's like Well, the problem is he doesn't realize that I already had twenty tabs open. So it becomes like Jenga. Yeah. And and him coming in and I was juggling just fine. Man, I do that to Tom. He'll be in his office and I'll come in and I'll just like shwam. He's like, Hey, how you yeah. But he's vi I mean, I'm very lucky. I am very, very lucky. And I am trying to be a better partner too, as well. And I think we're just like we're learning what what works for both of us. he's also going to therapy, which is really great. First time ever going to therapy. And then, you know, I am as well. So I think it's it's helping it's helping us for sure. And I'm sure it's helping his little inner child because very much like you, he was a big, tall, lanky kid with glasses that got bullied. And I think sometimes he doesn't see himself now. I'm like, you're not that lanky kid anymore. Yeah. You know. The podcast is also dealing with answering your wake up calls. My wake-up call was dealing with this, getting this cut out of me. it's one of your wake up calls. One of my wake-up calls. I haven't answered all of them, but I realized that I needed them. Have you had any wake up calls that you may have missed or that you've answered? I think losing my mom was a massive wake up call for me. I th yeah. I think that was a huge wake up call for me, especially with like my my family dynamic and what I needed as a family dynamic and setting boundaries for myself with people that are in my life and using my voice and when people didn't want to hear it, realizing that, you know, some people aren't meant to be in your life for forever. and my happiness and my path and where I'm at, I just, you know, I I wanna be supporters. With people that I have in my life and you know, I wanna receive that back as well. So I think I think my mom and her passing really put me into like full gear with a lot of changes in my life with a a lot of people. What was that phone call like when Tyler told you and that he'd been diagnosed with cancer? Fucking hard. That was really hard. But first I wasn't diagnosed with cancer. I had cancer cut out of me. I wouldn't Just I want to just make this very clear. But at some point you found out that that's what it was, and you told Scout. So semantically, however we want to put it. I just gotta do it for my own piece of mind. I mean, I was scared. I was really scared. I also we'd just gotten off a cancer movie and that whole experience, and you were a part of it, which like was kind of. shocking how that turned out and that worked. but I was really terrified. You can even ask Tom. I was like, Do I need to go there now? Do I like need to go see him now? he's doing really good. Yeah, you are doing really good. But it is sad. It's sad. Like I I the fact that, you know, now two people that I really love deeply that, you know shape me into who I am are have been diagnosed with it. It's hard. It's really hard. Yeah. Well one of the things they say is like There's a forty percent to fifty percent chance that everyone is gonna get cancer at some point in their lifetime. It just depends on what kind of cancer and to be prepared for it. And that's the whole thing about this show, too, is answering your wake-up calls. If you find something with your health, go to your healthcare professionals and make sure that you get tested, checked, and be your own best advocate. As I I also did laugh. You at what? Of course you did. Because You laughed at what you called me. You told me you had cancer and then you told me that you were gonna do a podcast. I was like what? You were like, I have cancer. But podcast. so do you like what do you do when you did the podcast? Did you really I was like, well, I'm sorry, but what? I'm like, can you just hold on a second? No, he can't. Well, you know me, I move on. It's like I gotta find something to do. Thank God I have you. Thank God, so I can see how I am in life, and then look at Tom and go Okay, I get it. I get it, Tom. I get it. I love you. You are so wonderful and great. You were so good to me. Well, that's I I say that to her all the time. Thank you for putting up with my shit. But he said it now. He said too. He says it to other people. I do it's weird because I do the same thing. I have a hard time saying it to Tom, but I do have no hard time saying it to other people. And like this, but like I I don't know why I have a heart maybe because I I didn't really hear that back. I didn't I've never heard that to myself. Like I'm proud of you. I love you. You know, whatever. Like that stuff. Like I never heard that growing up. So I think maybe that's why it's hard for me to be like, you are the best thing ever that's ever entered my life. But I and I think too, you have high expectations too. Like I have very high expectations of the people around me. Mm-hmm. And that kind of drives you crazy a bit too. Mm-hmm. I think, right? Mm-hmm. me included. Me included. But I think, I think it's wonderful that you also have me as an example and Tom as an example. Cause then you can kind of see, like, we do, I guess, sometimes put a lot of pressure on our partners. I feel like. I I I agree. I think it's really important to have people in your life who have. like interests, but also and it and it is funny that you say that because we were like, well, we're we're older than you. What have you learned from us? But the truth is we learn from you and Tom all the time. And I am so inspired by you. I mean, I watch your hustle and your creativity. And you are like Tyler, you are the speedboat, right? Who's just going and I feel like I've lost the water skis, you know, five miles back and I'm just face planting behind his motorboat sometimes because Who gets a cancer diagnosis and then goes, let's do a podcast while I'm in chemo. This guy. Well, you gotta do something. What the hell? Have you ever heard of them, kids? We could talk all day, but We could. I think yeah. I think that's about it. I think you got anything you wanna add? I'm really proud of you guys. I'm very proud of you guys. Doing this podcast and I can't wait to see it grow and I can't wait for you guys to kill each other while doing it. because you know that's coming, right? yeah. I can't wait. No, it's great. It's good. It's good podcasts. It's good. It'll be funny to see how well behaved we are at the beginning and then to see how the gloves evolve over time. If that happens, we'll see. Yeah, but we're learning and you know, the first ones are very much like. What are we doing? so I was just on and talking about lots of stuff and learning all kinds of things. Yeah, and if we can help other people. And if we can help other people get through something like that we've had to deal with or or that you've had to deal with and just by talking about it and opening up about it. Because with this putting it out on air I know while you It looks like I just saw that you the piggy t shirt. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt you. Keep going. I forgot. Now what what I think I I've got chemo brain here. I'm looking one also. I derailed you. It's really special you guys have such a vulnerable podcast because I feel like so many people shy away from from vulnerability, but so much good can happen from it too when you like really like get into those feelings with yourself or Your partner's feelings or other family members. Like I just feel like it's you can learn a lot from from people and each other. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, thank you so much. Thank you, I'm so glad that this worked out. That we can hang out again. You do a movie, he comes in town, we do a podcast, you come in town, just works out. It just works out. Hell yeah. Listen to the podcast, everybody. Mane A F.