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NFL Draft Booms, Busts & Scandals · The Favorites Sports Betting Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, presented by Draft Kings. The crown
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  Speaker 1: is yours. I'm your host, Brandon Kravitz, joined by the
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  Speaker 1: Queen of the Pod, Miss Kendrim Middleton, and the Prime
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  Speaker 1: Minister of Degen Nation, Stucky. Your Faves Trio is back
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  Speaker 1: to wrap up the week NFL Draft less than twenty
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: days away. We're gonna plant our flag on some of
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  Speaker 1: the top prospects in this year's draft.
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  Speaker 2: But oh my lord, what a story.
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  Speaker 1: That has taken over the NFL world that has nothing
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  Speaker 1: to do with the football field. Diana Rossini, formerly of ESPN,
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  Speaker 1: now with the Athletic very credible reporter. At least she
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  Speaker 1: was romantically involved, as it would appear, allegedly with Mike Rabel,
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  Speaker 1: the head coach of the New England Patriots. Photos have
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  Speaker 1: surfaced and the commentary has been outright outrageous. Kendra, I
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  Speaker 1: have been so curious on so many different levels to
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  Speaker 1: get your thoughts on this story. First of all, because
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  Speaker 1: of the market where you spend most of your time,
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  Speaker 1: which is Boston, as a woman in media and sports broadcasting,
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  Speaker 1: and just because you generally have unique opinions no matter
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  Speaker 1: the situation. But I have a lot of questions, but
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  Speaker 1: I just want to start with your general read on this.
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  Speaker 2: As as this story.
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  Speaker 3: Is developing, I feel like I'm getting asked to make
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  Speaker 3: a statement in court right now. The first thing I
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  Speaker 3: would say is you said that she's no longer credible.
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  Speaker 3: I would say, maybe she is the most credible source.
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  Speaker 3: To be honest, Like, how much more credible can you
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  Speaker 3: be here?
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  Speaker 2: I guess I have more? So that's not a bad point.
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  Speaker 1: You can't go back to her log about anything involving
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots are interested in aj bram In sure, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: all of that and say that it probably has even
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  Speaker 1: a higher layer of truth to it.
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  Speaker 2: I more so mean.
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  Speaker 4: I know what you mean.
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  Speaker 2: Moving forward, Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever sources she had around the league, those are about
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  Speaker 1: to dry up.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Oh oh the hell is giving her information after this? Well?
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  Speaker 4: Other than Mike, you know, I'm gonna say this.
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  Speaker 3: Men have two heads, and often they do not think
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  Speaker 3: with the right one.
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  Speaker 4: So I would not say that it is completely over.
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  Speaker 3: However, as far as the vibe up here, and I
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  Speaker 3: will address the uh other situation, the female aspect of
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  Speaker 3: it in a second. Pretty much all of the Patriots
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  Speaker 3: media has been silent, and I have been very openly
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  Speaker 3: critical of the Patriots, so I'm not worried about ever
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  Speaker 3: needing to be hired by them again. So I can
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  Speaker 3: keep it honest, Every single beat reporter, everybody involved with
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  Speaker 3: the Patriots has not said a word, which makes me
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  Speaker 3: believe one of two things, maybe three things. One, considering
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  Speaker 3: that a lot of these people's jobs is journalism, I
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  Speaker 3: feel like usually this is something that people would have
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  Speaker 3: to comment on, and I think that the Patriots are
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  Speaker 3: either bullying them not to or they knew about the
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  Speaker 3: situation and just can or wouldn't say anything. But I
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  Speaker 3: think the craziest thing about all of this is her
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  Speaker 3: statement that it's really normal for journalists to have relationships
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  Speaker 3: with coaches like this outside of events and facilities and
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  Speaker 3: those types of things. I haven't been in this industry
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  Speaker 3: as long as other people have been in this industry
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  Speaker 3: for eleven years, and never once in my life have
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  Speaker 3: I ever heard of or thought to consider that a
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  Speaker 3: journalist would meet a coach anywhere outside of maybe a
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  Speaker 3: coffee shop or a steak dinner. I'm sorry, you're not
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  Speaker 3: meeting someone at a romantic resort, and for that reason,
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  Speaker 3: Bunglo for two, to be specific, correct and for that reason,
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  Speaker 3: I think, unfortunately that situations like this and Joy Taylor
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  Speaker 3: and you can Lump, I'm sure a few other people
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  Speaker 3: in there over the years tend to set women back
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  Speaker 3: over time. And it just continues to feed the narrative
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  Speaker 3: that the masses of and sell men on the internet
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  Speaker 3: have that there's no.
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  Speaker 4: Possible way that you could ever have a.
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  Speaker 3: Job without sleeping with someone or without being hot, and
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  Speaker 3: it kind of just just credits a lot of the
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  Speaker 3: hard work and integrity of a lot of women in
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  Speaker 3: the industry. And unfortunately, I do think that this sets
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  Speaker 3: women back quite a bit. Not I think the Joy
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  Speaker 3: Taylor of situations wasn't as massive, but it's just the
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  Speaker 3: influx of everything online right now about what she's been
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  Speaker 3: saying about her husband and her marriage and the jokes
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  Speaker 3: she's been making about partying in Miami and all of
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  Speaker 3: those things, and I just it really is I can't
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  Speaker 3: think of a better word other than disgusting. How this
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  Speaker 3: is going to be moving forward for women in this
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  Speaker 3: industry for at least the next couple of years.
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  Speaker 4: And it's just it hurts. And I said that.
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  Speaker 3: Online and got a lot of insul men in my
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  Speaker 3: comments and I deleted my tweet, not because I didn't
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  Speaker 3: want to say it with my chest. I'm fully saying
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  Speaker 3: with my chest right here. It's just I don't feel
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  Speaker 3: like dealing with the comments.
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  Speaker 2: So a very little nuance on Twitter.
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  Speaker 1: So it is a That's the beauty of having a podcast,
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  Speaker 1: having a platform like this is you can actually have
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  Speaker 1: discussion about these things.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't mind like the you know, nuance of
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  Speaker 3: it all. But like, to be honest, both of you
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  Speaker 3: are married. If you were photographed like this with your wife,
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  Speaker 3: there's no other way to take it or for it
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  Speaker 3: to be interpreted. And to be honest, if I was
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  Speaker 3: married to someone doing.
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  Speaker 4: This, you would probably. I said this to Kravitz over
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  Speaker 4: text in a group chat. I was like, you would
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  Speaker 4: never find.
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  Speaker 3: My husband's body in a million years, and even if
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  Speaker 3: for some reason you did find the evidence, I would
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  Speaker 3: smile in my mugshot.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that much of the same would happen at the
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  Speaker 1: Kravitz household. So we're going to keep a kosher over here,
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  Speaker 1: stuck you, let's here read on this situation.
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  Speaker 6: That says the guy with all the mistresses.
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  Speaker 1: Those are bracket mistresses, Those are not female mistresses.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't think that like she shouldn't have to,
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  Speaker 7: like she shouldn't have to have the responsibility of, you know,
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  Speaker 7: holding the weight of all women journalists. But it'll certainly
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  Speaker 7: have a negati of impact. As Kendrick said, And I
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  Speaker 7: mean my first thought, there's look like a cheating happens
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  Speaker 7: in marriages. I think, think what the staystics say, like
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  Speaker 7: twenty to twenty five percent of marriages there's infidelity. I
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  Speaker 7: came from a household where there was cheating and it
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  Speaker 7: was painful. I can't imagine. My first thought always goes
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  Speaker 7: to the significant other, the kids.
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  Speaker 6: I don't think her kids are of age where like
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  Speaker 6: you're super young, Yeah you.
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  Speaker 7: Would see stuff, but still the internet is forever, So
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  Speaker 7: I always feel bad for the in these like super
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  Speaker 7: viral public affairs where like everyone just piles on on
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  Speaker 7: the internet.
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  Speaker 6: You got to feel just terrible for.
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  Speaker 7: The especially like the husband or wife of the other
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  Speaker 7: person and the kids, and like it's it's got to
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  Speaker 7: be super embarrassing. You probably just can't even go on
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  Speaker 7: the internet.
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  Speaker 4: So it's been tweet oatter stories this morning.
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  Speaker 2: That's where my it is crazy, Like she isn't slowed
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  Speaker 2: down at all.
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  Speaker 7: That's where my first thought goes. But yeah, definitely not
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  Speaker 7: a good look for a journalist. But yeah, it's that's life.
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  Speaker 7: People mess up.
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  Speaker 4: I almost even wonder like.
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  Speaker 3: Does this I mean, here's the thing in these situations.
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  Speaker 4: Seldomly is the woman ever keeping her job.
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  Speaker 3: It's usually the woman gets fired and the man and
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  Speaker 3: keeps his job because the man's usually the one in
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  Speaker 3: a place of power. I don't think either of them
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  Speaker 3: are going to lose their job. However, do you think
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  Speaker 3: that this changes kind of the Craft's opinion of Rabel
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  Speaker 3: because there has been rumors allegedly that this was going
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  Speaker 3: on in Tennessee as.
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  Speaker 4: Well, But just the fact that.
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  Speaker 3: Loose lips sank ships and he very clearly was having
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  Speaker 3: loose lips in many places.
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  Speaker 6: You talk about Robert Kraft, but like that's.
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  Speaker 3: The thing is that, like, yes, integrity, Yes we can joke, well,
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  Speaker 3: you know Craft's situation, but something very important to him
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  Speaker 3: is keeping the secrets of the team and of the organization.
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  Speaker 4: So regardless of if you want to make hand.
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  Speaker 3: Job jokes or not, it's it's still there are secrets
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  Speaker 3: within organizations like this that were clearly potentially leaked.
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  Speaker 1: So you would know this better than we would. Are
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  Speaker 1: there stories that have now been dug back up? Or
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  Speaker 1: she had way too much information about the Patriots? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: and yeah, the answer would be yes, that he would have.
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  Speaker 1: You would that Robert Craft would have an issue with.
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  Speaker 3: That, and there's been a lot of stuff that makes
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  Speaker 3: it seem like this has been going on for years.
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  Speaker 6: I was, they'll cross that bridge if variable stops winning.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, right, kind of what it comes down to.
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  Speaker 1: It's a good point by Stocky. I mean they were
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  Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. I think if they had won
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  Speaker 1: four games last year, then you could use that as
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  Speaker 1: a fireball offense. But not not having the success that
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  Speaker 1: he did, and not anything that outside uh nothing from
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  Speaker 1: my view who covers the league at a more wide scope,
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  Speaker 1: I haven't seen anything that's damning that would take down
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  Speaker 1: his job. As far as information that's leaked out. It's
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  Speaker 1: different when you're you're in the you're in the area
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  Speaker 1: in the northeast where you look. You guys are looking
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  Speaker 1: at everything through a microscope. I think about the double
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  Speaker 1: standard as far as the way that we view these
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  Speaker 1: two jobs. You talk about the the lens perhaps being
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  Speaker 1: put on Mike Vrabel. There's nothing that about what happened
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  Speaker 1: that derails how you feel about Mike Rabel and his
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  Speaker 1: ability to coach the New England Patriots. For Diana Rossini,
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  Speaker 1: this directly impacts what she does for a living. So
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  Speaker 1: I think that there's there's two double standards that are
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  Speaker 1: going on right now. One of them is fair and
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  Speaker 1: the job aspect, it's not okay to cheat, but it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't impact Mike Vrabel as a coach that he is,
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  Speaker 1: that he's performed some level of its Again, I don't.
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  Speaker 3: Know, because he's been preaching to Stefan Diggs and Travion
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  Speaker 3: Henderson recently and it's like he's he hasn't done.
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  Speaker 4: It with like a holier than thou approach.
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  Speaker 3: But he's been coming at especially like the Travon Henderson situation,
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  Speaker 3: about wanting him to learn and become a better man.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think he's gonna lose the locker room because
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  Speaker 3: of this. But if I'm Travion, I'm sitting there and
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  Speaker 3: I'm like.
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  Speaker 4: Hmmm, you know.
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  Speaker 1: But that's where the other double standard, the unfair double
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  Speaker 1: standard comes in, is that when guys do this, it's
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  Speaker 1: just sort of like shoulders when and this is the
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  Speaker 1: disgusting part and where I feel for you, Kendra, and
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  Speaker 1: women in general, especially those trying to make it and
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  Speaker 1: support themselves in the media. If you go to the
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  Speaker 1: comments on any single post, any post about this, it's
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  Speaker 1: slut shaming Diana Rossini. Nobody says a word about Vrabel
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  Speaker 1: and that's the double standard. That's unfair. But if you
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  Speaker 1: talk about the job side of it, it's unfortunate. But
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  Speaker 1: her job is directly impacted by her credibility is damaged
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  Speaker 1: moving forward because of this story.
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  Speaker 3: Your thoughts on that, I don't really I agree it
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  Speaker 3: sucks because I still think in a way she was probably,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the most reliable source, whether you like the
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  Speaker 3: reason she was or wasn't. But the athletic has defended her,
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  Speaker 3: and I think that that's a little strange.
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  Speaker 4: I just don't see how you move forward.
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  Speaker 2: Last thing on this stucky. I find it bizarre.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you've laid off Twitter lately because
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  Speaker 1: the NCAA tournament is over and it's a good break
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  Speaker 1: of from technology for you should be smart. But the
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  Speaker 1: amount of videos that have surfaced of her talking about
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  Speaker 1: her relationship over the last several years, I think it
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  Speaker 1: it is a damning example of where we are societally,
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  Speaker 1: that this many this many videos have popped up, that
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  Speaker 1: people are spending their time online looking up old videos
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  Speaker 1: of Diana Rossini talking about her relationship on random podcasts.
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  Speaker 3: Have you seen any of this pertrand is not a
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  Speaker 3: random podcast?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Like what but like to be able to go I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if you can do this through AI. That
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  Speaker 1: is where I am technologically ignorant. Like if you could
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  Speaker 1: just go type into chat GPT, show me a clip
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  Speaker 1: of Diana Rassini talking about her relationship. The fact that
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  Speaker 1: people are spending their time digging this stuff up, that
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  Speaker 1: is loser behavior.
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  Speaker 2: Have you seen any of this stucky a little?
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  Speaker 6: I mean that's just Twitter. People are gonna always search
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  Speaker 6: for the gotcha to go viral. Uh my thing.
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  Speaker 7: I've seen like there's people get tricked by pictures.
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  Speaker 6: And my thing when any of this stuff happens.
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  Speaker 7: It's like I saw people going crazy yesterday on The Masters.
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  Speaker 7: Someone tweeted out a picture of Jason Kelsey Burke, Pat
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  Speaker 7: McBee jumping into the pond together and then people were
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  Speaker 7: like going off on this AI image. I just can't
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  Speaker 7: what is this stuff going to look like in five years?
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  Speaker 7: I still get tricked every once in a while, and
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  Speaker 7: I'm like very cautious.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 6: And then now even like real things, I'm like, is
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  Speaker 6: this is this? This is real? Right?
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  Speaker 2: These pictures of the moon. I don't know what to believe.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like one of those conspiracy theorists that that
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  Speaker 1: doesn't believe he landed on the moon.
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  Speaker 6: You know, I went down this. I went down a
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  Speaker 6: rabbit hole.
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  Speaker 7: Uh, yesterday for like a half hour on uh TikTok
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  Speaker 7: of these of flat earthers, of people like just vehemently
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  Speaker 7: arguing why the Earth is flat?
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  Speaker 6: I was like, this is is this the thing?
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  Speaker 7: Apologies to any flat Earth or watching, apologize to them.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, you guys think reerving listens to our podcast.
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  Speaker 1: No, so, Kyrie, if you're listening, we'd love to have
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  Speaker 1: you before the NFL season starts.
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  Speaker 6: All right, let's get to let's uh do you need
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  Speaker 6: my question?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, hey, this is a dumb question. Let me ask
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  Speaker 2: you a personal question kind of question? Is that this question?
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  Speaker 6: All right?
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  Speaker 7: So we're gonna talk about the draft, our favorite prospects
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  Speaker 7: for the draft. Who is the person that you've been
• 14:26
  Speaker 7: It could be any sport that you've been most wrong about,
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  Speaker 7: Like you were like it could be you thought they
• 14:33
  Speaker 7: were gonna be great, or you thought that they were
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  Speaker 7: going to be a bust and they were great. I
• 14:39
  Speaker 7: have so many over the years, but there is a
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  Speaker 7: wide receiver. No one will really remember this, but there
• 14:45
  Speaker 7: was a wide receiver for Arkansas State, Jonathan Adams.
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  Speaker 2: This was.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know, I want to say, like four years ago. Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: I mean he played. He played Arkansas State probably like
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  Speaker 7: eighteen nineteen twenty for the basketball team. He had they
• 15:02
  Speaker 7: upset Arkansas State, upset Kansas State when they were ranked,
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  Speaker 7: and he had three touchdowns. I think he was the
• 15:07
  Speaker 7: BOLITNICKF finalist. I thought he was going to be something
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  Speaker 7: in the NFL, and then he ran a four six
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  Speaker 7: forty and then recently, I mean two years ago, he
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  Speaker 7: was taken in like the fifteenth round of the UFL draft.
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  Speaker 6: He never he's on.
• 15:21
  Speaker 7: He's on like he's allocated to the Louisville Kings in
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  Speaker 7: the UFL, but he's on injury reserve.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 7: I thought he was going to be something in the NFL,
• 15:29
  Speaker 7: but I have countless examples of that. I also thought
• 15:33
  Speaker 7: that the Chiefs reached for Mahomes.
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  Speaker 6: I said that.
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  Speaker 2: Live no, so that takes of anything any of us
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  Speaker 2: could say.
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  Speaker 7: I'm not afraid like I thought that they they when
• 15:45
  Speaker 7: they traded up, I was.
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  Speaker 6: I disagreed with it. So I have so many of
• 15:49
  Speaker 6: those that's insane. But I have years.
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  Speaker 4: I have two.
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  Speaker 3: One is mainstream and one is Niche mainstream justin fields
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  Speaker 3: Niche Luke jokel.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, did you have a hot take on him?
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  Speaker 4: I was like, this kid's gonna rule. He just sucked.
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  Speaker 6: Oh he got tressed by the Jacks, right.
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  Speaker 4: Yep, yeah, second pick I am.
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  Speaker 2: I have so many names running through my head right now.
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  Speaker 1: One that comes to mind immediately for me is in
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  Speaker 1: the baseball world. Do you guys remember the brief moment
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: when Yasiel Puigue with the Dodgers just took over the sport.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that was gonna be it. I thought he
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  Speaker 1: was going to be the biggest star in the history
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  Speaker 1: of the game, just just.
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  Speaker 2: Take over and it. I think it ended.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: By the time I was done completing that take, his
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: career had flatlined right after that. I've definitely gotten a
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: few quarterbacks wrong. I was a big Blaine Gabbert guy,
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: speaking of your Jacksonville Jaguars. I liked him at college
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: and then I watched too much preseason and bought the
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: hype on Blaine Gabbert. And there's another one that is
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: coming to mind that I'm blanking on right now, but
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  Speaker 1: so hard.
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  Speaker 7: I'm convinced no one really knows, even the most in
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  Speaker 7: tune NFL minds you just I.
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  Speaker 2: Mean Kyle Pitts.
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  Speaker 1: Most recently, I bought the you're just going to draft
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  Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame tight end and who knows. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: at this point he's kind of turning things around. It
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  Speaker 1: still could become that, but we've had a lot of
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  Speaker 1: flat years from him. If you remember the name, oh you,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Teal Green out of Miami was drafted by the Dolphins,
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  Speaker 1: but one of the other ones, and I think he
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  Speaker 1: wound up tearing his ACL before he even played, so
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: he busted because of injury. Peter Warck is my number
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: one example. That was the one that I was trying
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: to dig out of my brain. Peter Warick, Florida State,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: late nineties. I thought he was going to come into
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: the league and be the best wide receiver.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: I thought he was going to be.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: If you think about what Jamar Chase is in real
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: life now, I thought that was going to be Peter Warck.
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: But that was when the bangal it's bad for me too.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, key On called I think I called the key
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: on Coleman bust Calvin Benjamin though another Florida state wide.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: I thought he was going to be good. Loved him
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: all right.
• 18:13
  Speaker 7: My last one is my namesake on Twitter, Rodney Stuckey,
• 18:16
  Speaker 7: who went like top fifteen in the Draft's that's why
• 18:19
  Speaker 7: I named my Twitter account after randomly in like two
• 18:21
  Speaker 7: thousand and seven when he.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: Was at h that's a great poll. I didn't know
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: this about you.
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: He was at Eastern Washington.
• 18:30
  Speaker 7: And well, like it was originally on a forum name
• 18:33
  Speaker 7: and then I think I started Twitter like twenty ten,
• 18:35
  Speaker 7: twenty eleven, but that's how that's how my name started.
• 18:38
  Speaker 7: I just he won me a bunch of money at
• 18:40
  Speaker 7: Eastern Washington, and I loved him there.
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: I mean, he played for a while in the NBA,
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: but he was never a star.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Producer In the chat, David Payne says Josh Rose and
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: he thought Josh Rosen was going to be the best
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: quarterback in the draft class.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: I thought that as well. That did not work out.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Still to come a flag plant on our favorite NFL
• 19:04
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• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about some of our favorite draft prospects in
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: this year's draft class. We're each going to go top
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: five presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. We're talking
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: players that you.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Are speaking of Stucky's question.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Overly confident and positive that they are going to be
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: impact players in the NFL. We'll go We'll just each
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: go one through five, and then and then we'll save
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: a little space for commentary on each of those five names. Kendra,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: who are your five?
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: You guys went a little bit off the beaten path
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: and compared to me, and I'm not surprised, but I'm impressed.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: My one of one's gonna be Jeremiah Love. I think
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: that he's just a plug and play a player at
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: a relatively plug and play position, super explosive, gets faster
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: after contact, and he can catch a pass and is
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: decent a pass pro. So I don't really see a
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: ton of downsides to his game, Like there's really no
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: negative critique for someone who's expected to surpass, you know,
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: kind of what Saquan was expected to do in the
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: draft d and Jean Robinson.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: So I went a little safe with.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: My one of one, but I think that no matter
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: I kind of approached it from the perspective of no
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: matter where these guys get drafted, I think they'll be okay.
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: That was kind of the way that I approached this list.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: So I don't think that there's anybody that could draft
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: him where he could not shine.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So I did end up deleting a couple of
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: names because you put yours in the dock first. So
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons why we've gone off the
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: beaten path. But yeah, it's Jeremiah Love a phenomenal.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: Hillie Berg gets the worm.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Baby, there you go. There.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: I think I did double up on a couple of
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: these just because I didn't want to erase everybody, But
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: go ahead and roll through the rest of your list.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: I added sunny styles.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: Obviously, he's positioned flexible.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: And I think that that is kind of the biggest
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: part of his game. He does not miss tackles at all,
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: And the only kind of negative critique that I had
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: on him is that he needs to join me for
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: a yoga class at some point because his hips are
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: not the most flexible that I've ever seen. But if
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: that's the biggest downside that he has, I think that
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: he's probably going to be pretty decent no matter where
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: he gets drafted.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: Number three for me was Makai Lemon.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: Great route runner, fast, can get good separation, and his
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: ball tracking and grip strength is probably the best out
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: of a receiver in this class in my opinion. After
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: kind of going back and filtering through some of his tape,
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: another wide receiver that I added was Carnel Tait. I
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: think he's a safe choice for anybody that's going to
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: draft him.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: Always a safe choice.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: To draft any kind of wide receiver from Ohio State.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: They obviously like, I.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: Mean, look at Carret Wilson, Chris Olave, JSN, Marvin Harrison,
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: and I think he's the most polished kind of NFL ready.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: Receiver in this draft.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: And then last, but not least, you guys know that
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: I had to throw a tight end on here because
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: left tackles and tight ends are my favorite part about
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: the draft, but his combine kind of put him over
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: the edge for me, Keny and Sadik great after the catch.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: My only concern is that he gets thrown into a
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: situation where he's going to be expected to carry a
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: huge load and pause. I don't think that that would
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: be the best thing for his early career. But if
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: he really is kind of the comp that he's getting,
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: I think I think he's going to be good no
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: matter where he goes. I just worry that he's going
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: to get thrown into a situation where he gets, you know,
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: a ton of need early. But if he really is
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Evan Ingram, I think that that's great no matter where
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: you throw him.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: I think he is one.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Of those guys that can be very His production is
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: going to be very dependent on where he ends up,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: not so much with the quarterback but with the coaching
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: scheme that he lands in. But he's an explosive player,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: ninety ninth percentile performer at the NFL combine and combine
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: was insane, and we can overrate the combine, and that
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: can be problematic. But when you marry that with already
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: being a top prospect at the position and then blowing
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: up the combine, it's just it's hard not to fall
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: in love with him as a prospect. Very intrigued to
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: see where he goes. Kansas City at nine would be
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: fascinating because them, I would throw up my remote.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: I'm not one of these people that gets pissed off
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: really easily when watching like sport to the draft or anything,
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: but I would probably throw my but dazzled remote through
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: my TV.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: That'd be them drafting Travis Kelcey's direct replacement. I love
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Carnel Tate as well. Stuck you before we get your
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: list your thought on. There's two names. Monsieur Delaine out
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: of LSU and Carnell Tate there if you know nothing
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: about these players and you just simply went into the
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: draft and said, I'm just gonna take the top Ohio
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: state wide receiver in the top dB out of LSU.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Do you think we end up overrating these players because
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: of where they come from or is that just simplistic
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: and accurate analysis to say that these players at these
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: positions have thrived from these programs.
• 24:25
  Speaker 7: No, I mean Ohio State it's a thing. I mean,
• 24:27
  Speaker 7: like their route running there. I mean it's just they're
• 24:30
  Speaker 7: almost can't miss ls. I mean, corners are a little tougher.
• 24:36
  Speaker 7: There's I've had some questions about the lane more so
• 24:40
  Speaker 7: than others might I don't think he's a slam dunk,
• 24:44
  Speaker 7: but I mean he's obviously one of the top corner
• 24:48
  Speaker 7: prospects in this draft. But that's a little trick here.
• 24:52
  Speaker 7: But I think the Ohio state wide receiver development and
• 24:58
  Speaker 7: I mean they're route running right from the is elite.
• 25:01
  Speaker 7: So that is I think something that you can anchor
• 25:04
  Speaker 7: on and be confident in.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: What about you give us your five?
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: Well?
• 25:09
  Speaker 7: I went well, I went with like I could have
• 25:11
  Speaker 7: went the top, you know, the top I don't follow
• 25:13
  Speaker 7: the draft too closely, but I follow college football as
• 25:16
  Speaker 7: close as anyone, watch as much college football as anybody.
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: So I went, I don't know where I know.
• 25:21
  Speaker 7: These guys aren't projected to go like top twenty and
• 25:24
  Speaker 7: probably not first round, Like I haven't looked at any
• 25:27
  Speaker 7: mocks or anything like that yet. But these are guys
• 25:31
  Speaker 7: that I really liked that are probably day two, day
• 25:34
  Speaker 7: three guys. If I assume you can tell me if
• 25:37
  Speaker 7: I'm wrong that I think, you know.
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: Not that they might.
• 25:42
  Speaker 7: They're not going to be like a slam dunk, you know,
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: number one, number two pick in the draft, but I
• 25:46
  Speaker 7: think we'll find homes and be steady starters. So the
• 25:53
  Speaker 7: first one is trade and stukes. He's a very versatile
• 25:57
  Speaker 7: chess piece d back to Arizona. He's played he could
• 26:01
  Speaker 7: play safety, he can play nickel, he could play corner,
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: he play outside, he could play I mean, he could
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: play all over the place. He've ran a four three
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: three forty also six one one ninety thirty eight inch
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: bird like he has, and he's done it all at Arizona.
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: He can close, he can run with receivers, He's physical
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: enough in the run game, and those are the guys
• 26:24
  Speaker 7: that if you can find them with in today's NFL,
• 26:28
  Speaker 7: those versatile defenders in the secondary that allow you to
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: do so much. We saw that with Eman Warren with
• 26:35
  Speaker 7: in Seattle. That's the trend, and I think Stukes can
• 26:38
  Speaker 7: be one of those guys that's not necessarily being talked
• 26:41
  Speaker 7: about as a first rounder. So I think he could
• 26:44
  Speaker 7: be a steal in Day two or day three wherever
• 26:46
  Speaker 7: he's projected to go.
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: The more you're more.
• 26:53
  Speaker 7: Kind of standard normal corner is Chris Johnson. Not a
• 26:58
  Speaker 7: lot of people have probably seen him out of San
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: Diego s E. I don't think he necessarily has the
• 27:05
  Speaker 7: upside of a Quinnon Mitchell, who I loved coming out
• 27:08
  Speaker 7: of Toledo, and now Toledo is another d BAC is
• 27:10
  Speaker 7: gonna get drafted and Emmanuel McNeil Warren not necessarily the
• 27:15
  Speaker 7: same type of player, but Toledo as they developed their
• 27:18
  Speaker 7: defensive backs really well. But I think Chris Johnson, if
• 27:21
  Speaker 7: he can go to a place where he can press
• 27:24
  Speaker 7: press some, I mean everyone's gonna use man in zone.
• 27:27
  Speaker 7: But I think that he has great instincts, great cover skills,
• 27:31
  Speaker 7: and he was just elite all year for that San
• 27:33
  Speaker 7: Diego State defense. So that's one of the outside corners
• 27:36
  Speaker 7: that I think we'll find a role. Like he could
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: be an excellent number two corner in in you know,
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: two years, for a team that utilizes a higher rate
• 27:47
  Speaker 7: of man than.
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: Than your standard team.
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: One of the most there's a lot a lot of
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: the offensive tackles that are gonna get drafted.
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: I'm not as hot like I think that there's a
• 28:02
  Speaker 7: lot of bust potential in.
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: Many of them.
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: Like I'm not a Procter guy, I don't know where
• 28:07
  Speaker 7: he's Where's Caden Proctor projected to go?
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: Maybe top fIF I want to say, like fifteen through seventeen.
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: Maybe I think he's going to be a bust.
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: But I mean, obviously he has all the skills, but
• 28:19
  Speaker 7: in the trades. But one guy who I think could
• 28:22
  Speaker 7: end up being the best tackle in this class and
• 28:26
  Speaker 7: one of the best stories. I'll definitely be rooting for
• 28:28
  Speaker 7: him is Maxi Hennacher out of Arizona State. This kid,
• 28:34
  Speaker 7: Nigerian kid who came to the US, never played high
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: school football, went to East LA Community College and then
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: went to Arizona State. Got thrown into the fire. Like
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: they Arizona State had like ten offensive linemen. Get hurt
• 28:47
  Speaker 7: a couple of years ago, and he got thrown into
• 28:48
  Speaker 7: the fire and has only improved. I mean, this guy,
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: he has all of the trades. He's still a little
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: role but I mean he's just getting started in his
• 28:57
  Speaker 7: football career. He's got like an eighty three and a
• 29:00
  Speaker 7: half inch wingspan. I think he could be a very
• 29:05
  Speaker 7: very good starting tackle UH in the league for a
• 29:09
  Speaker 7: long time. And then I'll go, let's see, I'll stick
• 29:15
  Speaker 7: on the defensive side of the ball.
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: Zion young kid out of Missouri, who can.
• 29:21
  Speaker 7: I mean, he's super underrated. I mean he's dominant against
• 29:24
  Speaker 7: the run. I think he can turn into a really
• 29:26
  Speaker 7: good player. He's pretty versatile up front. Another guy Honorable
• 29:31
  Speaker 7: mentioned for it. Similar type. I would imagine they go
• 29:35
  Speaker 7: around the same.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 29:37
  Speaker 7: They're kind of like projected maybe day two, day three.
• 29:41
  Speaker 7: Gay Bacchus out of Illinois. He's just a football player.
• 29:44
  Speaker 7: He's gonna find a role. Just two time state champion wrestlers.
• 29:49
  Speaker 7: He just knows how to he just knows how to
• 29:51
  Speaker 7: play defense.
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: Tough kid.
• 29:53
  Speaker 7: I He'll find a role somewhere. And then two other
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: bigger guys Caleb Banks. He has some injury questions out
• 30:00
  Speaker 7: of Florida.
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: But that he can be like he has as long
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: as he can stay.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Healthy with a lot of injuries last year.
• 30:11
  Speaker 7: His foot the questions, but he's explosive, he can you
• 30:15
  Speaker 7: can play him it in a couple of different spots
• 30:17
  Speaker 7: along the defensive line. And then there's a honorable mention
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: to a guy who's my favorite. One of my favorite
• 30:21
  Speaker 7: nicknames is Dom Orange, the big Citrus out of Iowa State.
• 30:25
  Speaker 7: He's not really gonna wow anyone from a pass rushing perspective,
• 30:29
  Speaker 7: but like if you're looking for these guys are becoming
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: more and more important, these guys who can just clog
• 30:34
  Speaker 7: up the middle.
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: He will probably find a role on the right defense.
• 30:40
  Speaker 7: Uh as far as just like a guy is going
• 30:42
  Speaker 7: to take up bodies help against the run in the middle.
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: But yeah, those are my five kind of off the
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: radar guys that I'm confident will find a role and
• 30:53
  Speaker 7: be steady pros for years to come. In Stokes, Johnson,
• 30:57
  Speaker 7: uh Ichor and Zion Young and Caleb.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: If I could have placed a bet on Stucky coming
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: to the table with five obscure names in college football,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: I would have made serious cash.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe we should just start gambling on what the
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: other people on this show.
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: Are going to do.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would be uh, I would be okay with.
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: The Kings prediction. We should gets.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Draft Kings prediction market. We'll get that going.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: And I would have definitely I would have already won
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: off of Stucky's random list of names. And he's a
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: football player. I think that that is my favorite. That
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: is my favorite draft cliche, and I have that actually
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: written into my analysis here. So my my first name
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: is exactly that is Jacob Rodriguez out of Texas Tech.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: If you watch draft coverage this year, exactly that phrase
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: will be used when talking about Jacob Rodriguez.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: He's a football player. That this guy.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: They used him all over the place at Texas Tech.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: He was in the Heisman discussion because they even threw
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: a wildcat at times. Leader Captain day one, tough as nails.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: He's not a trait se guy, but he's going to
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: be a starter for years. So he is tier one
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: on my list of guys that I have no question
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: about his ability to be successful in the NFL. Caleb
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Downs is if we're looking for the nick Eman worry
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: of this year's draft, it's quite obvious who that is.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Didn't allow a touchdown for two years. I think you
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: can make a really good argument for him being the
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: best overall player in this year's draft class. There's a
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: really good chance that he's going to be great. I
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: think there's a zero percent chance that he's going to
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: be bad. That is a slam dunk pick. And because
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: he's a safety, I think he ends up going on
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: the back end of the top ten.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: And to me, he's a top five guy. Malachi Fields.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: If I go down the board, a little bit wide
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: receiver out of Notre Dame, He's like discount Michael Pittman.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: This guy is a deep threat. He's a red zone threat.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: Six four a bad day. He was dominant at Virginia
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Tech and then got the bag to go to Notre Dame.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: Not a big route.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Tree, but if you're just looking for someone that you
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: can plug into the offense and say, go get the
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: ball in the red zone, I think he's one of
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: those guys could be Fantasy relevant within a year or
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: two of his NFL career.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: I'll throw a Monsor Delaane in the Virginia by.
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: The way before the Virginia. People get mad at.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: You, Virginia, thank you. Yeah, I added the tech to it. Yeah.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: I can already feel the hate comments coming in on
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: the YouTube channel. Delaane is the top corner in the draft,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: and I think there's a pretty big drop off from
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: him and the kid from Tennessee who's still making his
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: way back from an ACL injury.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Got a lot of money. This is the one.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: He went from Virginia Tech to LSU, but best dB
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: in the drafts coming out of LSU. That's pretty much
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: a layup most years. And then my last name is
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Mike Washington out of Arkansas, the running back. This is
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: a wild comp. But when I watched this guy play,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: I see shades of Terrell Davis. He's got kind of
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: that upright run style, really powerful, doesn't even really break tackles.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: The defenders are sort of fall off of him. And
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: he's got four three three speeds, So he's a guy
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: that he's not gonna be a three down player. I
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: saw one comp that said he's kind of like Chris Carson.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: I think that would be on the low end of
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: what he's able to produce. But he's gonna have to
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: pair with somebody who's a better pass catcher. That guy
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: is going to be a stud when given an opportunity
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: in the NFL.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Those are my five names I would say.
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean by the way that you mentioned of
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: a football player.
• 34:38
  Speaker 7: That I'm so curious to see where Like D'Angelo Ponds
• 34:42
  Speaker 7: fits that to a t, but like I don't know
• 34:44
  Speaker 7: where exactly he fits in an NFL, Like can he
• 34:49
  Speaker 7: like I think he's best on the outside, but can
• 34:53
  Speaker 7: he play If he could play in the nickel, it
• 34:57
  Speaker 7: might be best for him, but I don't know, Like
• 34:59
  Speaker 7: that's the guy if he can find a role as
• 35:01
  Speaker 7: just a football player. But you mentioned Delanne. I think
• 35:04
  Speaker 7: that the best because I think that the best corners
• 35:07
  Speaker 7: in the draft come like just raw skill is Jamal McCoy,
• 35:12
  Speaker 7: but he has major injury quiet Like he's yeah, major
• 35:17
  Speaker 7: injury questions coming back.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: He hasn't played in like four hundred days something like that.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: I'd be worried about taking a guy like that in
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: round one, but he probably will just because he's got
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: all those elite cornerback traits.
• 35:29
  Speaker 7: Devin Moore two out of Florida, same deal. He's dealt
• 35:32
  Speaker 7: with some injuries, but he's got elite cornerback traits. The
• 35:35
  Speaker 7: thing I would worry about with fields like he doesn't
• 35:37
  Speaker 7: have elite. Can he get separation consistently? It's not a
• 35:41
  Speaker 7: super What did he run? He's like a four to
• 35:43
  Speaker 7: six guy.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: He's a four to six one yep, So.
• 35:47
  Speaker 7: Can he get enough separation? I mean he has good
• 35:50
  Speaker 7: ball skills and ah, but can you get enough to better?
• 35:55
  Speaker 7: And then Rodriguez is yeah, he's just a football player,
• 35:58
  Speaker 7: but can he hold up athletically in coverage? I mean
• 36:02
  Speaker 7: this is a former walk on whose I mean his
• 36:04
  Speaker 7: stock is gone. I mean you watch him play. I
• 36:07
  Speaker 7: mean this this guy just plays with I mean just
• 36:12
  Speaker 7: violence before.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: He looks like Zach Thomas when I watch him, He's
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: just everywhere. You cannot watch a Texas Tech game and
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: just and not come away impressed with what he does.
• 36:21
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he had missed some. He has mistackle rates was
• 36:24
  Speaker 7: a bit high, but I Kenny, Kenny, just hold up
• 36:29
  Speaker 7: and coverage would.
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: Be my my question there. But uh, I like your
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: list for sure.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: You know who I'm surprised that none of us brought
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: up and I guess I'm not surprised.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: But Ruben Bain, Yeah, I mean.
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: He's to me. I.
• 36:46
  Speaker 7: I didn't go with I went with like guys who
• 36:48
  Speaker 7: I didn't think would be in the first round.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he had the hipster list. Yeah, Bain is.
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: Definitely going in the first round. I mean they.
• 37:00
  Speaker 7: What is the the.
• 37:03
  Speaker 6: The kind of dig on him or the worri is
• 37:06
  Speaker 6: his arms right?
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: His arm length? Yeah, he's going to be a Dallas cowboy.
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: It is what it is.
• 37:12
  Speaker 7: Yeah, So like no, no, he has what is what
• 37:15
  Speaker 7: is his arm length is thirty And I was.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: Gonna say sub thirty one, sub thirty one.
• 37:22
  Speaker 7: No, no player with the sub thirty one has recorded
• 37:27
  Speaker 7: a double digit sacks this century. So it doesn't mean
• 37:32
  Speaker 7: he can't translate, but that that would be the I
• 37:38
  Speaker 7: don't think that there's been edge rusher with those with
• 37:41
  Speaker 7: that short of arms who's been taken in the first
• 37:42
  Speaker 7: round in this century.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: But I think the positive about him is that he's
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: a hard worker, so that's why people are kind of
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: high on him. But you can't you can't make your
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: arms any longer.
• 37:57
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I would take I mean, I take Bailey and
• 38:03
  Speaker 7: Reese over and for sure, I'm super interested being I
• 38:08
  Speaker 7: mean I already mentioned Akis and Young. I also really
• 38:12
  Speaker 7: like Keldric falk Out of Auburn.
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's a Day two prospect.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like right on that cusp of like late day one,
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: early day tail.
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: I don't know, to be honest, but that sounds about right.
• 38:26
  Speaker 7: I but those are some names that because the rate
• 38:31
  Speaker 7: there were like that, I'm watching for the Ravens like
• 38:33
  Speaker 7: these there's a this I think that this this edge
• 38:36
  Speaker 7: rush class is deep and yeah, according to the Ravens,
• 38:40
  Speaker 7: their plan was to have their original plan is to
• 38:44
  Speaker 7: have Crosby and Hendrickson, which is what I told you
• 38:48
  Speaker 7: guys a month ago, Like that is the only thing
• 38:50
  Speaker 7: I care about this offseason is just edge go get
• 38:57
  Speaker 7: is you have to fix the edge rush no matter what.
• 38:59
  Speaker 7: Well that's certainly would have done it having Hendrickson and Crosby.
• 39:03
  Speaker 7: Crosby obviously fell through. They get Hendrickson, Okay, that helps,
• 39:09
  Speaker 7: but s not enough. So uh one of the some
• 39:13
  Speaker 7: of these guys that I'm looking at, hoping that the
• 39:15
  Speaker 7: Ravens grab to to help address their their clear I
• 39:21
  Speaker 7: think biggest weakness on the team last year.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Before we wrap this completely, we didn't mention a single quarterback,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: and I think that's part of the reason why A
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: lot of people are sleeping on this year's draft. We're
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: just not We're not debating. The best drafts from a
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: from a content perspective are the ones where you're debating
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: the top pick. There's no debate there. It's obviously Fernando
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Mendoza and it should be and that's the end of
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: the of the discussion. Then the next best for content
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: is debating, well, who are the best quarterbacks or who's
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: the next crop? And we don't believe in any of
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: these guys? Is there someone not necessary in the first round?
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: But is there anyone else that you'd be willing to
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: tepidly hit your wagon too and say, if given the
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: opportunity in the right offense, I believe in quarterback X.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Kendra is nodding her head.
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: You guys know who it is. For me.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: I think I may have logged it in the app,
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: but I've definitely logged it in DraftKings. I have Garrett
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: Nsmeyer going in the first round. I think that he
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: is the number two quarterback in this draft. I know,
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: obviously the majority consensus is Ty Simpson, but I think
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: that garrettness Meyer has a far higher ceiling. So if
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: we're sitting here with the prompt that we have that
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: who is most likely to be not a bust out
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: of this draft, pick out of this draft class, and
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: you're going to give me one of the quarterbacks to pick.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: I honestly think it's ns Meyer for me, which is
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: probably crazy to a lot of people. And he didn't
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: have a great season, but prior to this year, I
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: think that his tape looks pretty okay.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: He was a guy that was supposed to be the
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: number one quarterback in this year's draft class and then
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: put together pretty mediocre season. The total quarterbacks drafted in
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Round one over on draft Kings. The over under is
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: one and a half and the over is heavily juiced
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: at minus two o five. Under is plus one fifty
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: five stucky, Which would you bet if you had to
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: bet on one of those sides? Over over under one
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: and a half? Quarterbacks? We know that there's one. Basically,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: will there be two quarterbacks taken in the first round?
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Over is minus two oh five.
• 41:27
  Speaker 7: This isn't my specialty, so I can't, but I think
• 41:29
  Speaker 7: I will go over. I don't know what it should
• 41:31
  Speaker 7: be priced at, but I think that there's probably going
• 41:34
  Speaker 7: to be I think Simpson will probably find his way
• 41:37
  Speaker 7: into the first round, but I don't take mine.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Do you draft price aside?
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Do you believe that Ty Simpson in the right offense
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: can be a decent NFL quarterback?
• 41:49
  Speaker 7: I'm not a Simpson guy, but I'm also on record
• 41:52
  Speaker 7: of saying, like, no one knows anything about projecting these quarterbacks.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: If I Broberdy being the best example recently.
• 42:00
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, if I were, it's a team in
• 42:05
  Speaker 7: I don't know where he's projected to go. But a
• 42:09
  Speaker 7: like a guy with so much upside and potential as
• 42:14
  Speaker 7: Taylor Green out of Arkansas, just an unbelievable athlete, and
• 42:20
  Speaker 7: he has a good arm. He's just got to work
• 42:21
  Speaker 7: on some of the mechanics stuff. And but that's a
• 42:25
  Speaker 7: guy with upside that you take a shot on and
• 42:29
  Speaker 7: it's not gonna cast. It's not like a you know,
• 42:33
  Speaker 7: an Anthony Richardson where it's gonna cost you an arm
• 42:37
  Speaker 7: and a leg.
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: Two.
• 42:41
  Speaker 7: He's not you know, it's not he's not gonna fourth overall,
• 42:44
  Speaker 7: and but he has a ton of upside, So like
• 42:46
  Speaker 7: he could be an interesting project, but not the it's
• 42:49
  Speaker 7: not that the.
• 42:50
  Speaker 6: Problem with nus Myers.
• 42:51
  Speaker 7: He can't move, so like he's he doesn't fit the
• 42:55
  Speaker 7: mold of like the the quarterbacks that you want in
• 42:58
  Speaker 7: today's day and age, like who are the who is
• 43:02
  Speaker 7: the best?
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: Like you gotta hope he's.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: Like GoF that's the one Golf Stafford as far as quarterbacks.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: That are that are elite but not mobile, But.
• 43:14
  Speaker 7: Those guys have been around for have been around for
• 43:16
  Speaker 7: a while. But like everyone else, like who's like Lawrence
• 43:20
  Speaker 7: can move, Caleb can move, Drake may can move?
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: The guy who won the Super Bowl? Where do we
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: put Sam Darnold? In that discussion?
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: What I was going to say is that when you're
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: kind of projecting things like this quarterback situation is you
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: have to remember that a lot of this is based
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: off positional value, right, and quarterback has the highest positional value.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: So if someone's going to take a shot late in
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: the first round, it's probably going to be at a
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: quarterback over you know, a wide receiver or a tight
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: end or something that is heavy in this draft, just
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: because there's such a need for not just a starting quarterback,
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: but a backup quarterback, and a lot of the times
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: a good or a great backup quarterback is worth a first.
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: Or a second round pick.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: So I think that a lot of people don't take
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: into consideration the mindset of some of these GM moves
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: in how much they value certain positions and taking a
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: shot at certain positions over others.
• 44:12
  Speaker 6: Well, yeah, that's I mean, that's that's probably what's going
• 44:14
  Speaker 6: to dictate this draft.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: Like the Okay Jackson Dart last year, he was not
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: expected to go in the first round, but because of
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: the needed quarterback he did.
• 44:21
  Speaker 7: Yeah, someone he won a quarterback and you find that's
• 44:24
  Speaker 7: I mean, that's going to solve a lot of your issues.
• 44:25
  Speaker 7: Like if the if if Dardens of being the guy
• 44:28
  Speaker 7: for the Giants, it solves a lot of the issues.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: For a while.
• 44:31
  Speaker 7: But that's probably going to drive and next the first
• 44:35
  Speaker 7: round activity like you're probably going to see a ton
• 44:39
  Speaker 7: of these tackles go and then these edge rushers.
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: There's going to be a run of backers edge rushers.
• 44:46
  Speaker 7: Yeah, the edge rushers and tackle the premium just the
• 44:49
  Speaker 7: positional value of both that you'll probably see a run
• 44:53
  Speaker 7: on both at some point.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: The projection, I think a safe project projection could be
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Arizona on to trades back into the first round to
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: get Ty Simpson so that they have that fifth year
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: option on the quarterback. To Kendrick's point, that's part of
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: the positional value of getting the quarterback in round one also,
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: not only because of how important quarterback is, but because
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: you get that extra year and that contractually is more important.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Look at what the Texans are doing now with CJ.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: Stroud.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: They said, here's the fifth year option, but we're not
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: sure about you, bro, So perhaps that happens with Ty Simpson.
• 45:29
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• 45:32
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• 45:34
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