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- 0:03Speaker 1: Welcome late Bay.
- 0:07Speaker 2: Well, good evening and thanks for joining us. I'm James
- 0:09Speaker 2: Macpherson with Liz Storer and Caleb Bond. And speaking of
- 0:13Speaker 2: Caleb Bond, unlike him, I am not into horse racing
- 0:16Speaker 2: at all, but I reckon I could be after listening
- 0:19Speaker 2: to one race caller will play you his unique call
- 0:22Speaker 2: in just a moment.
- 0:23Speaker 3: I really wondered where you were going with that, James,
- 0:26Speaker 3: when you're speaking of Oh my god, what's he going
- 0:29Speaker 3: to say.
- 0:29Speaker 4: About heart within your mouth?
- 0:30Speaker 3: I thought, Oh no, my my deepest and dark place
- 0:34Speaker 3: to be revealed.
- 0:35Speaker 2: No, no, it's nothing bad. It's just Caleb loves his
- 0:37Speaker 2: horses and I've never been interested. But I promise you
- 0:40Speaker 2: the race caller will say a little later he's not
- 0:43Speaker 2: too bad at all. Plus, when we look at what's
- 0:45Speaker 2: making news tomorrow, Chris Bowen doubles down on his renewables
- 0:49Speaker 2: dream after the election result, and the Victorian State government
- 0:53Speaker 2: on a collision course with the Truth Telling Commission that
- 0:56Speaker 2: they themselves commissioned. All of that when we get to
- 0:59Speaker 2: tomorrow's headlines, But first, let me start with a question.
- 1:03Speaker 2: What do you think would be important qualifications for school teachers?
- 1:08Speaker 2: I imagine you might say, well, they should be familiar
- 1:11Speaker 2: with the subject matter, they should have a mastery of
- 1:14Speaker 2: teaching techniques, maybe be adept at behavioral management. All of
- 1:18Speaker 2: those things make sense, right, But I'm pretty sure none
- 1:22Speaker 2: of you would say, I think teachers it's really important
- 1:25Speaker 2: that they understand indigenous culture and anti racism. And yet
- 1:30Speaker 2: that is exactly what the New South Wales government is
- 1:33Speaker 2: requiring of all teaching graduates before they are allowed into
- 1:37Speaker 2: our classrooms. A statement from the New South Wales Education
- 1:41Speaker 2: Department published in the Daily Mail today reads, and I quote,
- 1:45Speaker 2: all staff must complete the mandatory training Aboriginal cultural education.
- 1:50Speaker 2: It's called Let's take the First Step Together, and training
- 1:54Speaker 2: on the anti racism policy and their responsibility to actively
- 1:58Speaker 2: challenge racism. Now this compulsory module. It's not compulsory for
- 2:04Speaker 2: you to graduate, but if you graduate without doing this module,
- 2:07Speaker 2: you can never teach in New South Wales. It instructs
- 2:10Speaker 2: potential teachers on an overview of Indigenous languages, a knowledge
- 2:15Speaker 2: of significant Aboriginal people and Aboriginal sites, and an understanding
- 2:20Speaker 2: of the impact that government policies have had on Indigenous
- 2:23Speaker 2: people over the past couple of one hundred years. Now
- 2:26Speaker 2: the Education Department says this is very important because it
- 2:29Speaker 2: will help the teachers in New South Wales classrooms to
- 2:33Speaker 2: improve cultural safety quote unquote for Aboriginal students. Calebin Liz
- 2:39Speaker 2: good idea or bad idea.
- 2:41Speaker 4: This is absolutely nuts.
- 2:43Speaker 5: We have a national teacher shortage in Australia. Every state
- 2:47Speaker 5: and territory is crying out for more teachers. In New
- 2:51Speaker 5: South Wales where these rules are now applying, as of January,
- 2:56Speaker 5: we had one thousand, two hundred and ninety for teacher
- 3:01Speaker 5: vacancies in the state alone, and we're told that's a
- 3:04Speaker 5: good thing because it's a four year low. So apparently
- 3:08Speaker 5: that figure is something to be rejoiced over.
- 3:11Speaker 4: A four year low.
- 3:12Speaker 5: Just just under thirteen hundred vacancies in the state of
- 3:17Speaker 5: New South Wales. And that's just speaking of one state.
- 3:21Speaker 5: And is it any wonder when all the research that
- 3:25Speaker 5: talks about this national teacher shortage repeatedly says that one
- 3:29Speaker 5: of the really important elements to this is a lack
- 3:33Speaker 5: of people's respect for the profession. It has fallen in
- 3:38Speaker 5: people's esteem, and that is across the board. Is it
- 3:42Speaker 5: any wonder when parents are becoming increasingly aware of the
- 3:46Speaker 5: fact that these are indoctrinators, not educators, and the state
- 3:51Speaker 5: is doing nothing to hide the hand that they're playing.
- 3:55Speaker 5: Here got to baptize the up and coming teachers in
- 3:58Speaker 5: white guilt so they can do the same when they
- 4:01Speaker 5: reach the classroom.
- 4:03Speaker 4: This is just utter nonsense.
- 4:05Speaker 5: When we have kids failing the most basic tenants of
- 4:10Speaker 5: their education. We saw last year in was it the
- 4:13Speaker 5: napland results one in three kids did not meet the
- 4:19Speaker 5: standard requirements of grammar and spelling. And this is what
- 4:24Speaker 5: we're grilling our teachers. And we've also talked at length
- 4:27Speaker 5: countless times about the poor standards of teachers and the
- 4:32Speaker 5: fact that they are dropping requirements tertiary requirements for these
- 4:36Speaker 5: teachers because we're so desperate for them. It's like, oh, actually,
- 4:40Speaker 5: if your ATA is not that up to scratch, you
- 4:43Speaker 5: can still qualify for teaching.
- 4:46Speaker 4: It's utterly ridiculous.
- 4:48Speaker 5: That anyone thinks that this is a priority right now
- 4:51Speaker 5: in our education system.
- 4:52Speaker 3: Will you have to ask the question, and I have
- 4:54Speaker 3: asked this a number of times and columns I've written
- 4:57Speaker 3: over the years, if your objective were to be a
- 5:00Speaker 3: good teacher, why would you bother going into the profession anymore?
- 5:03Speaker 3: Because you get bogged down in all of this garbage.
- 5:07Speaker 3: You know, it starts at UNI and then you get
- 5:09Speaker 3: into the classroom and then they'll dictate to you. The
- 5:11Speaker 3: department will dictate to all this work stuff that you
- 5:14Speaker 3: have to do. And then you have to come up
- 5:16Speaker 3: against all the other teachers, who of course are going
- 5:18Speaker 3: along with all of this stuff. And if you raise
- 5:20Speaker 3: your hand and say, well, actually, I just want to
- 5:22Speaker 3: get on with the job of teaching, you get bullied out,
- 5:25Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera. Why would you bother to put
- 5:28Speaker 3: up with all that nonsense if you just wanted to
- 5:31Speaker 3: make sure that the next generation of kids had as
- 5:33Speaker 3: much knowledge as they could and could be good members
- 5:36Speaker 3: of society. And you mentioned the a tarslies what we
- 5:39Speaker 3: were talking recently about people with eight has less than
- 5:41Speaker 3: fifty getting into teaching, and that puts you in like
- 5:45Speaker 3: the bottom quarter of people who graduated from high school,
- 5:49Speaker 3: and then you can go and study teaching. Earlier this year,
- 5:52Speaker 3: we found out that seven and a half percent of
- 5:55Speaker 3: teaching graduates couldn't pass the literacy test that they have
- 5:59Speaker 3: to take at the end of their degrees. Four point
- 6:01Speaker 3: seven percent couldn't pass the numeracy test they get three
- 6:05Speaker 3: goes at that test. Right, these are the problems that
- 6:09Speaker 3: we're facing. And of course they're going into UNI and
- 6:11Speaker 3: studying teaching, having already come out of the school system
- 6:14Speaker 3: themselves where they were let down because they didn't learn
- 6:17Speaker 3: reading and writing and spelling and whatever properly. So they
- 6:20Speaker 3: then go off to UNI and are only as good
- 6:22Speaker 3: as the teachers that came before them. And then we
- 6:23Speaker 3: say they will go and be the best teachers of
- 6:26Speaker 3: the next generation. So forget about fixing up the problems
- 6:28Speaker 3: with literacy and numeracy and etars, but let's teach them
- 6:32Speaker 3: to be culturally aware and more than that, anti racist.
- 6:37Speaker 3: And that's the whole anti racist thing really gratees me
- 6:40Speaker 3: because it is departmental policy that, you know, it's not
- 6:45Speaker 3: good enough to say that you don't like racism. You
- 6:48Speaker 3: have to somehow actively fight racism. But what is to
- 6:53Speaker 3: actively fight racism? I mean is it to say I
- 6:56Speaker 3: witnessed a student being racist to another student, so I
- 6:59Speaker 3: sent him to detention. Well, that's what every teacher would
- 7:02Speaker 3: do anyway. I mean, you have disorder in your classroom,
- 7:05Speaker 3: you're seeing a student to detention. Know what they mean
- 7:09Speaker 3: is that you have to lecture the students about racism
- 7:12Speaker 3: and tell them that if they're white, that they have
- 7:14Speaker 3: all this guilt and nation feel bad about what their
- 7:17Speaker 3: ancestors did to Aboriginal people and every other mob under
- 7:20Speaker 3: the sun. I mean, for most of us, our ancestors
- 7:23Speaker 3: did nothing because we weren't here when this joint was colonized.
- 7:27Speaker 3: If you can prove to me that you were one
- 7:29Speaker 3: of the people who came in on the first fleet,
- 7:31Speaker 3: different discussion. For most of us, we don't have that connection.
- 7:34Speaker 2: It's not good enough to confront racism when and if
- 7:36Speaker 2: you find it to be means you've got to hunt
- 7:39Speaker 2: it down, and you've got to go seeking instances of
- 7:42Speaker 2: racism so that you can address them. I'm always curious
- 7:46Speaker 2: about this term cultural safety, and I'd love to know
- 7:49Speaker 2: how Indigenous kids, who matter as much as every other kid,
- 7:51Speaker 2: are unsafe in our classrooms. But I don't think that's
- 7:55Speaker 2: what this is really all about. Because this module that
- 7:58Speaker 2: is compulsory, as I said, in New Southwest Teachers, is
- 8:02Speaker 2: put together in partnership with a non government organization called
- 8:05Speaker 2: the Aboriginal Educational Consultative Group, who state on their website
- 8:09Speaker 2: that the whole point of this module is to quote
- 8:12Speaker 2: ensure unique and diverse identity of Aboriginal students is recognized
- 8:17Speaker 2: and valued. So it sounds less about stopping something terrible
- 8:21Speaker 2: happening that's going on that we're all unaware of, and
- 8:24Speaker 2: more about deliberately and purposefully promoting the indigenous culture, which
- 8:28Speaker 2: of course leaves open the question what about all the
- 8:30Speaker 2: other cultures we're in our class?
- 8:32Speaker 3: And that's the thing. You start with one, you'll eventually
- 8:35Speaker 3: have to move on to all of them. And I mean,
- 8:37Speaker 3: can you imagine these lecturers in the unis and these
- 8:41Speaker 3: teaching students, They must be having kittens if they had
- 8:43Speaker 3: a look at what Sukia Stama said the Prime Minister
- 8:46Speaker 3: of the United Kingdom overnight. I mean he's had a
- 8:49Speaker 3: real come to Jesus moment. Now he's taken a look
- 8:52Speaker 3: at the polling. Of course that is now showing in
- 8:54Speaker 3: the UK that if there were a general election today,
- 8:58Speaker 3: the party that would get the most votes is Nigel
- 9:01Speaker 3: Faraja's Reform, and of course sa Farage talking to Paul
- 9:05Speaker 3: Murray just before you can see the numbers there. This
- 9:07Speaker 3: was taken on May the six, twenty nine percent, so
- 9:10Speaker 3: they would vote for Reform which makes them the top
- 9:12Speaker 3: party the Tories Conservatives only seventeen percent and Labor the
- 9:18Speaker 3: current government twenty two percent, and they have more than
- 9:22Speaker 3: four hundred seats Labor, it should be noted. And yes,
- 9:24Speaker 3: it's the first part the post system, so it is
- 9:26Speaker 3: a different system to us, and it does make you know,
- 9:30Speaker 3: they have different results on the basis of where people vote.
- 9:33Speaker 3: But popularly across the country, reform is now in the
- 9:37Speaker 3: box seat and we saw that translate through in the
- 9:40Speaker 3: local government elections that they had on the same weekend
- 9:43Speaker 3: that we had our federal election. So Sukia has woken
- 9:46Speaker 3: up and said, geez, we've got to do something to
- 9:48Speaker 3: arrest this decline of the Labor Party. We've got to
- 9:51Speaker 3: get votes back from reform. So he's turned tough guy
- 9:55Speaker 3: on immigration. Now if he believes any of this, I
- 9:58Speaker 3: have to say, it's brilliant. I mean, I wish we
- 10:00Speaker 3: I had heard this out of the mouths of conservative
- 10:03Speaker 3: leaders around the world. He has said the stuff that
- 10:06Speaker 3: other people have been afraid to say. He wants to
- 10:10Speaker 3: deport more foreign criminals. Yes. Good. He says that local
- 10:14Speaker 3: staff should be prioritized over foreign staff. Good. He said
- 10:18Speaker 3: there should be tighter rules around family so that you
- 10:21Speaker 3: can't just come to the UK illegally and then get
- 10:24Speaker 3: someone up the duff and then say well I've got
- 10:26Speaker 3: kids now I can't leave. Tighten the rules around that
- 10:29Speaker 3: so you can't get away with it anymore. Because in
- 10:32Speaker 3: the UK, net migration for the twelve months to June
- 10:35Speaker 3: was seven hundred and twenty eight thousand. Under the Tories
- 10:39Speaker 3: got as high as nine hundred thousand a year. When
- 10:43Speaker 3: you're talking about a country of sixty seventy odd million people,
- 10:47Speaker 3: they are huge numbers to be inserting into the country
- 10:52Speaker 3: every year. So Kia says he'd like to get it
- 10:55Speaker 3: down to as much by twenty twenty nine as three
- 10:58Speaker 3: hundred thousand a year. That is a serious cut. Here
- 11:01Speaker 3: he was talking about classmat So.
- 11:04Speaker 6: When you have an immigration system that seems almost designed
- 11:09Speaker 6: to permit abuse, that encourages some businesses to bring in
- 11:13Speaker 6: lower paid workers rather than invest in our young people,
- 11:18Speaker 6: or simply one that is sold by politicians to the
- 11:21Speaker 6: British people on an entirely false premise, then you're not
- 11:26Speaker 6: championing growth, you're not championing justice or how else people
- 11:31Speaker 6: defend the status quo. You're actually contributing to the forces
- 11:37Speaker 6: that are slowly pulling our country apart. So yes, I
- 11:42Speaker 6: believe in this. I believe we need to reduce immigration significantly.
- 11:48Speaker 3: I mean, if only we heard these words added in
- 11:52Speaker 3: our country, I believe we need to reduce immigration. He
- 11:56Speaker 3: also warned about the fact that if you want a
- 11:58Speaker 3: country to serve and be successful, you have to abide
- 12:02Speaker 3: by the rule of law. And if you don't do that,
- 12:05Speaker 3: there are consequences.
- 12:07Speaker 6: Now in a diverse nation like ours, and I celebrate
- 12:10Speaker 6: that these rules become even more important. Without them, we
- 12:17Speaker 6: were becoming an island of strangers.
- 12:20Speaker 3: An island of strangers. What a brilliant line. Why has
- 12:24Speaker 3: no one else said this before?
- 12:26Speaker 4: He said?
- 12:27Speaker 3: Quote we need to take back control of our borders,
- 12:31Speaker 3: he tweeted last night. If you want to live in
- 12:33Speaker 3: the UK, you should speak English. That's common sense. So
- 12:37Speaker 3: we're raising English language requirements across every main immigration route.
- 12:43Speaker 3: I mean, this is extraordinary stuff. This is a labor
- 12:47Speaker 3: Prime Minister need I remind you, saying the staff that
- 12:50Speaker 3: the coalition was too afraid to say here in Australia,
- 12:55Speaker 3: and to be perfectly honest, I don't care if he's
- 12:57Speaker 3: only been shocked into this because of the numbers he's
- 13:00Speaker 3: seen from Reform. It is the first time I've actually
- 13:05Speaker 3: seen someone in a long time in Australia. US is
- 13:09Speaker 3: a different discussion. We get to that a little bit later,
- 13:11Speaker 3: but you know, the UK, Canada, Australia our major allies.
- 13:15Speaker 3: It's the first time in a long time I've seen
- 13:17Speaker 3: someone stand up and say it as straight as this.
- 13:21Speaker 3: We must take control of our borders back. We need
- 13:23Speaker 3: to lower immigration. I can't believe what I'm.
- 13:26Speaker 5: Hear that anyone who believes him can't have a single
- 13:29Speaker 5: firing neuron. This is the guy who came into power
- 13:34Speaker 5: last year because the Conservatives had allowed almost a million
- 13:39Speaker 5: immigrants into the country the year prior, and Britz, well
- 13:43Speaker 5: we've had enough of it.
- 13:45Speaker 4: You guys are gone.
- 13:46Speaker 5: Ski Labor gets in and just continues the same old,
- 13:50Speaker 5: same old. They knew the issue that had won them
- 13:53Speaker 5: the election, and they changed nothing, which is why, as
- 13:57Speaker 5: Caleb said, the weekend before last, we saw the Reform
- 14:01Speaker 5: Party in local government elections get thirty percent of.
- 14:07Speaker 4: The vote share.
- 14:08Speaker 5: They won six hundred and seventy seven seats across the UK.
- 14:14Speaker 5: Labor lost over one hundred the Conservatives lost over six
- 14:18Speaker 5: hundred and reform was just snapping them all up. Germany
- 14:23Speaker 5: did exactly the same thing when they saw in their
- 14:27Speaker 5: state elections last year that they got an absolute thumping
- 14:31Speaker 5: from the far right AfD all of a sudden that
- 14:35Speaker 5: then Chancellor got up and said, oh, well, we're we're
- 14:39Speaker 5: cracking down on immigration. We're going to tougher up our borders.
- 14:43Speaker 4: We hear you, and we are going to deliver.
- 14:46Speaker 5: No one believed him rightly so, and the German population
- 14:51Speaker 5: went on to give them an absolute hiding at the
- 14:55Speaker 5: federal election, which saw the AfD become the most popular
- 14:59Speaker 5: part in Germany.
- 15:01Speaker 4: So that's what these governments do.
- 15:04Speaker 5: They watch the local elections, they watch the state elections.
- 15:07Speaker 4: It of course is.
- 15:08Speaker 5: A brilliant gauge of the public rage, and then they say, oh,
- 15:12Speaker 5: we better do something about this, otherwise we are cooked.
- 15:16Speaker 4: I don't care what Starmer says. Now he is cooked.
- 15:20Speaker 5: Who's to say because he refused to really speak to numbers.
- 15:24Speaker 5: He said he wanted to get it down by the
- 15:26Speaker 5: next election in twenty twenty nine, but he refused to
- 15:30Speaker 5: actually commit to a number. Now as Prime Minister he
- 15:34Speaker 5: has the power to do that. He said he was
- 15:37Speaker 5: ending a quote experiment in open borders end quote who
- 15:43Speaker 5: voted for that experiment? Prime minister? Who voted for that experiment?
- 15:48Speaker 5: Absolutely nobody, And yet he's carried it on just like
- 15:53Speaker 5: the Conservatives did, despite knowing.
- 15:55Speaker 4: That's why he won.
- 15:57Speaker 2: There's a couple of things I thought when I heard
- 15:58Speaker 2: his comments. The first thing I thought was, gee, the
- 16:01Speaker 2: Poles must be bad, and that's before I saw the
- 16:03Speaker 2: poll that you showed at the top, so obviously he's
- 16:07Speaker 2: reacting to the rise of Nigel Faraj, as you said, Caleb.
- 16:11Speaker 2: The other thing I thought when I heard his remarks
- 16:13Speaker 2: was that the next time we see Kirs Starmer it
- 16:16Speaker 2: will be in prison, because surely if you say immigrants
- 16:19Speaker 2: should speak English, the next thing you know, you'll have
- 16:22Speaker 2: a Bobby on your front or raising you for a
- 16:24Speaker 2: racist tweet. In fact, Kirs Starmer has been at the
- 16:26Speaker 2: forefront of that sort of policing, and that's the great
- 16:30Speaker 2: irony here. He's saying the very things that he himself
- 16:33Speaker 2: was demonizing other people for saying. You said, Caleb, an
- 16:37Speaker 2: island of strangers. It's a great line. Why haven't we
- 16:40Speaker 2: heard that one before? I'll tell you why, because you'd
- 16:42Speaker 2: be in fear of being arrested if you'd said that line.
- 16:46Speaker 2: If Kios Starmer is serious about this, and he's a
- 16:48Speaker 2: human rights lawyer before he came to power, the first
- 16:51Speaker 2: thing they should do is withdraw from the European Convention
- 16:54Speaker 2: on Human Rights, which we've sat here and talked about
- 16:56Speaker 2: the way that asylum seekers who've been convicted of offenses
- 17:00Speaker 2: have then used that agreement that the UK have with
- 17:05Speaker 2: the European Union to find all sorts of loopholes to
- 17:09Speaker 2: stay in the country. So if he's serious, there's plenty
- 17:11Speaker 2: he can do. He's qualified to do it. But I
- 17:13Speaker 2: think you're right. I think everyone will sit back and
- 17:16Speaker 2: think these are mere words. And of course Nigel frag
- 17:19Speaker 2: that was his take on the whole thing.
- 17:20Speaker 5: Absolute bogus, as transparent as freshly cleaned glass.
- 17:25Speaker 4: He says, oh, we're going to have all control of
- 17:27Speaker 4: the borders.
- 17:27Speaker 5: Well, that's your Prime Minister UK admitting he'd lost control
- 17:32Speaker 5: of the borders. And of course we know these things
- 17:35Speaker 5: don't happen by accidents, but to a country where immigration
- 17:39Speaker 5: seems to becoming less of a problem in the US,
- 17:42Speaker 5: where of course Donald Trump was elected by the people
- 17:47Speaker 5: with a mandate to crack down on the insane levels
- 17:51Speaker 5: of illegal immigration that had flooded into the country during
- 17:55Speaker 5: the tenure of the Biden administration. Even conservative numbers s
- 18:00Speaker 5: made over ten million people flooded into the country.
- 18:04Speaker 4: The White House now says that has.
- 18:06Speaker 5: Cost American taxpayers in twenty twenty three alone one hundred
- 18:11Speaker 5: and fifty billion dollars housing these people, settling these people,
- 18:17Speaker 5: feeding these people, trying to get these people jobs. Again,
- 18:21Speaker 5: did those taxpayers vote for such a move?
- 18:24Speaker 4: Absolutely not.
- 18:27Speaker 5: Well, the Trump administration is crowing about how much they've
- 18:30Speaker 5: been able to achieve within the first one hundred days
- 18:35Speaker 5: in the job, and most recently, this video eclip went
- 18:39Speaker 5: viral shared by the Texan Border Force Facility, just showing
- 18:43Speaker 5: you what a difference just a few years can make.
- 19:15Speaker 5: Gone Ski from absolutely bulging with illegals waiting to be
- 19:20Speaker 5: processed at the border, which the Biden administration was more
- 19:24Speaker 5: than willing to facilitate. Under the Trump administration, it no
- 19:29Speaker 5: longer exists. It's just a patch of scorched grass. Check
- 19:34Speaker 5: out these numbers RNC Research pulled out of recent CBP data.
- 19:40Speaker 5: It's gone from April twenty twenty four, so just last year,
- 19:44Speaker 5: where over one hundred and twenty eight thousand illegal aliens
- 19:48Speaker 5: were apprehended at the Southern border, to just eight thousand,
- 19:53Speaker 5: three hundred and eighty three illegal aliens at the Southern.
- 19:56Speaker 4: Border this April.
- 19:59Speaker 5: I mean bought the difference Bill muleagen tweets breaking. Internal
- 20:04Speaker 5: CBP data obtained by Fox News reveals border patrol apprehended
- 20:09Speaker 5: eighty three hundred and eighty three illegal aliens at the
- 20:12Speaker 5: Southern border in April, down ninety three percent from nearly
- 20:16Speaker 5: one thousand, sorry one hundred and twenty nine thousand in
- 20:21Speaker 5: the prior April. Per CBP data, only five aliens were
- 20:26Speaker 5: released in April this April, compared to roughly sixty eight
- 20:31Speaker 5: thousand released last April under the BIDED and admllustration. CBP
- 20:36Speaker 5: says the five releases were only temporary for special interest
- 20:41Speaker 5: court cases. April twenty twenty five average two hundred and
- 20:44Speaker 5: seventy nine Border patrol apprehensions of illegal aliens per day
- 20:49Speaker 5: average twenty twenty four. In April, the average was four thousand,
- 20:55Speaker 5: two hundred and ninety seven, So that's less four thousand
- 21:01Speaker 5: more than four thousand.
- 21:03Speaker 4: Less per day. Because of course, when the Trump administration comes.
- 21:07Speaker 5: In News travels like, hey, don't bother going to the
- 21:10Speaker 5: border anymore.
- 21:11Speaker 4: They've shut up shop, and.
- 21:13Speaker 5: All the traffickers, all the illegals would be illegals go, well,
- 21:17Speaker 5: we we're just absolutely wasting our time. I love Trump
- 21:22Speaker 5: admins their Project Homecoming, where.
- 21:25Speaker 4: They're now offering illegals.
- 21:27Speaker 5: They're saying, out yourselves, we'll give you one hundred We'll
- 21:30Speaker 5: give you a thousand dollars in cash American dollars, a
- 21:34Speaker 5: thousand bucks to leave. All you have to do is
- 21:37Speaker 5: rock up at any airport in America. We the government
- 21:41Speaker 5: will pay for it because in the long run, we're
- 21:44Speaker 5: saving billions of dollars by getting you out of the country.
- 21:47Speaker 5: Trump has literally said, out yourselves, get yourselves to an airport,
- 21:52Speaker 5: one thousand dollars cash, free flight to anywhere you want
- 21:57Speaker 5: to go, as long as it's not here, we want
- 22:00Speaker 5: you out.
- 22:01Speaker 3: Can I just be completely clear he is, because this
- 22:04Speaker 3: is mind blowing stuff. Are you saying that if you
- 22:08Speaker 3: shut the border it stops people coming over the border?
- 22:12Speaker 3: I am WHOA, I can't believe it. I mean, who
- 22:16Speaker 3: would have thought? Who would have thought it was this simple?
- 22:19Speaker 3: And I mean Biden was Johnny come lately towards the
- 22:22Speaker 3: end of his presidency, and you know, a bit like
- 22:24Speaker 3: Starmer in the UK started going, oh, you know, we've
- 22:27Speaker 3: got to do something about the border. We've got a
- 22:29Speaker 3: problem down on the border. And of course we had
- 22:31Speaker 3: the borders. Kamala Harris, who I don't know if she
- 22:35Speaker 3: went down there once or twice, and they actually cleared
- 22:37Speaker 3: everyone out of the way so the cameras wouldn't see
- 22:40Speaker 3: everyone that was there, but Biden as one of literally
- 22:44Speaker 3: one of the first things he did when he became
- 22:47Speaker 3: president was issue executive orders to rescind the executive orders
- 22:52Speaker 3: that Trump had put out to secure the border and
- 22:55Speaker 3: build the wall. It was literally one of the first
- 22:58Speaker 3: things he did within days of becoming present was unwind
- 23:03Speaker 3: all of that. And then of course people walked over
- 23:05Speaker 3: the border. Who would have thought that was going to happen,
- 23:08Speaker 3: And of course that was all by design. He wanted
- 23:10Speaker 3: those people to walk over the border because once they're
- 23:12Speaker 3: in the country, well they're in the country now, and
- 23:15Speaker 3: you know, we'll put them up in a hotel and
- 23:17Speaker 3: we'll treat them nice, and then one day they might
- 23:19Speaker 3: become a citizen, and then who are they going to
- 23:21Speaker 3: vote for. They're going to vote for the mob who
- 23:23Speaker 3: let them over the border. Who knew it was as
- 23:25Speaker 3: simple as turning off the tap. I mean, Trump has
- 23:28Speaker 3: done the most obvious thing. He did it in his
- 23:31Speaker 3: last presidency, and it worked. The only reason that Biden
- 23:36Speaker 3: undid that and turned the tap back on is because
- 23:39Speaker 3: he wanted those people in the country and he knew
- 23:42Speaker 3: exactly what was going to happen.
- 23:43Speaker 2: So there's a couple of lessons out of all of this.
- 23:45Speaker 2: The first one is that sovereign borders or border control
- 23:48Speaker 2: is a matter of political will, and where borders are open,
- 23:51Speaker 2: it's not because there's some sort of problem. It's just
- 23:55Speaker 2: an ideological bent. The Biden administration wanted open borders, so
- 23:59Speaker 2: they got them. Trump wants a closed border, so he's
- 24:02Speaker 2: got it. Biden was on the view as part of
- 24:05Speaker 2: his rehabilitation too this week, and even as late as
- 24:08Speaker 2: this week he was still claiming he would have closed
- 24:11Speaker 2: the border, he just didn't get Senate approval to do it. Well,
- 24:15Speaker 2: of course Trump hasn't got senate approval to close the border.
- 24:19Speaker 2: He just went and did it because, as I said,
- 24:21Speaker 2: it's a matter of political will. The other lesson from
- 24:24Speaker 2: all of this, of course, and God willing, the coalition
- 24:28Speaker 2: here will take note. You can win elections. Trump won
- 24:31Speaker 2: an election primarily campaigning on the issue of porous borders.
- 24:36Speaker 2: Kirs Starmer is now running scared because of the issue
- 24:39Speaker 2: of porous borders. People understand, they're smart enough to realize
- 24:43Speaker 2: borders are not racist. They're just what you require if
- 24:46Speaker 2: you want to keep your own country as your own.
- 24:49Speaker 2: And it's an absolute election winner in the West where
- 24:52Speaker 2: mass migration has caused all sorts of problems. Controlled migration good,
- 24:57Speaker 2: but out of control migration people are just sick of it.
- 25:00Speaker 2: Let's come home to Australia. A big day in politics
- 25:03Speaker 2: here with the leadership of the Liberal Party decided, and
- 25:07Speaker 2: you've got to ask, is this an amazing opportunity or
- 25:10Speaker 2: a poisoned chalice For Susan Lee. She was appointed the
- 25:14Speaker 2: first ever female to lead the Liberal Party. Of course,
- 25:17Speaker 2: the Liberal Party she inherits got a vote of just
- 25:21Speaker 2: thirty one point eight percent, its lowest in history. And
- 25:25Speaker 2: there's a lot of confusion about what they stand for.
- 25:27Speaker 2: And the confusion isn't just among the general public, it's
- 25:31Speaker 2: in the Liberal Party itself. As we'll see from her
- 25:33Speaker 2: comments in just a moment. But here she is at
- 25:36Speaker 2: a press conference today shortly after being appointed the new leader,
- 25:40Speaker 2: talking about how she will approach this new role.
- 25:44Speaker 7: I am humbled, I am honored, and I am up
- 25:48Speaker 7: for the job.
- 25:49Speaker 4: Every day.
- 25:49Speaker 7: We will stand up for our values to anyone, anywhere,
- 25:55Speaker 7: and we'll do it in the public debate and will
- 25:57Speaker 7: do it in the Parliament.
- 25:59Speaker 2: So they're going to stand up for their values. They'll
- 26:01Speaker 2: do it anywhere with anyone. They're going to stand for
- 26:04Speaker 2: their values. I want to show you what she said
- 26:07Speaker 2: about net zero because of course this is probably the
- 26:09Speaker 2: biggest issue in the country right now energy policy. So
- 26:13Speaker 2: having just said is a stand up for liberal values
- 26:16Speaker 2: and they're prepared to be very confident and bold with them.
- 26:20Speaker 2: She was asked by Sky News Andrew Clanel. Does the
- 26:25Speaker 2: pursuit of net zero still apply or are they going
- 26:27Speaker 2: to move away from that. Here's what she said.
- 26:30Speaker 7: We have to recognize that we need a strong country
- 26:34Speaker 7: that is committed to a manufacturing base that relies on cheap,
- 26:39Speaker 7: reliable energy.
- 26:40Speaker 2: You're prepared to walk away from netsu.
- 26:42Speaker 7: You're pretty words in my math, Andrew. No policies have
- 26:45Speaker 7: been adopted or walked away from at this time.
- 26:49Speaker 2: As she also said Caleban Liz that she's absolutely committed
- 26:52Speaker 2: to reducing emissions. So she said, we've got to reduce emissions,
- 26:55Speaker 2: that's absolute, but we've also got to take advantage of
- 26:58Speaker 2: Australia's cheap energy, which is successible and has been part
- 27:03Speaker 2: of our success story. You can't have it both ways.
- 27:06Speaker 2: You can either have net zero or you can have cheap,
- 27:08Speaker 2: reliable energy, which is that. She's got Ted O'Brien, the
- 27:12Speaker 2: new deputy, standing beside.
- 27:13Speaker 5: Her on promoting well, he was promoting nuclear energy until
- 27:18Speaker 5: the campaign started and then we never saw him again.
- 27:21Speaker 2: She wasn't committing to nuclear, she wasn't committing to net
- 27:24Speaker 2: zero or to walking away from it. I just don't
- 27:27Speaker 2: understand how you can come out and say we're going
- 27:29Speaker 2: to stand for liberal values and then say every single
- 27:32Speaker 2: policy that five minutes ago we were rock solid on
- 27:35Speaker 2: is now all up for grabs. It was hardly convincing.
- 27:38Speaker 3: I thought, well, perhaps, but you're in a difficult position
- 27:41Speaker 3: because you've been elected leader five minutes ago. You don't
- 27:45Speaker 3: really have the latitude to just stand up and start
- 27:48Speaker 3: making policies up on the spot. You can't do that
- 27:51Speaker 3: you need the will of the party to come with
- 27:53Speaker 3: you if you're going to change policy. These are the
- 27:56Speaker 3: discussions that they will now be having behind closed doors,
- 27:59Speaker 3: and I suspect they will be very difficult discussions because
- 28:03Speaker 3: if you look at the vote count, it was twenty
- 28:05Speaker 3: nine in Lee's favor and twenty five in Angus Taylor's favor.
- 28:10Speaker 3: So it is still a party that, you know, along
- 28:12Speaker 3: factional lines you might call it is somewhat divided, and
- 28:16Speaker 3: there are parts of that party that will absolutely believe
- 28:19Speaker 3: they have to stick behind net zero and other parts
- 28:21Speaker 3: of the party that will absolutely believe they ought to
- 28:23Speaker 3: ditch it. So they need to have those fights now
- 28:26Speaker 3: and say, look, what worked or didn't work more pertinently
- 28:30Speaker 3: in the election that's just been and what are we
- 28:32Speaker 3: going to come out with now. They'll then have to
- 28:34Speaker 3: of course balance all of that up with the Nationals,
- 28:37Speaker 3: that is having exactly the same discussion about whether they
- 28:40Speaker 3: continue to back in the concept of net zero or not.
- 28:43Speaker 3: If the Nats change their mind and say, well, we're
- 28:45Speaker 3: not going to back zero anymore, it does kind of
- 28:48Speaker 3: back the Libs into a corner and hopefully turns them
- 28:51Speaker 3: in the right direction. I have to say that, I
- 28:55Speaker 3: wasn't particularly enamored with either of the options we had,
- 29:00Speaker 3: because of course you've got Angus Taylor, who was Shadow Treasurer,
- 29:03Speaker 3: who led us into the well we're not going to
- 29:05Speaker 3: back in Labour's tax cut, and we know how well
- 29:07Speaker 3: that ended. And you had Susan Lee, who of course
- 29:11Speaker 3: was deputy leader to Peter Dutton. So you have the
- 29:14Speaker 3: two people who were essentially closest to Peter Dutton into
- 29:17Speaker 3: cabinet now having to lead the party into a new
- 29:21Speaker 3: era to learn all the lessons of what happened when
- 29:24Speaker 3: they were so close to Peter Dutton. So I am
- 29:26Speaker 3: somewhat skeptical of that, but I thought she did pretty
- 29:29Speaker 3: well in that press of today. All things considered, I
- 29:32Speaker 3: think it was the strongest performance I've probably seen from
- 29:35Speaker 3: Susan Lee ever. Now that may be because we haven't
- 29:38Speaker 3: seen a great deal of Susan Lee. So I wish
- 29:41Speaker 3: her well and I hope that in the limelight now
- 29:43Speaker 3: she can do a better job than I assessed she
- 29:46Speaker 3: might be able to do. Before today. No one's heard
- 29:49Speaker 3: a great deal about her, apart from when she was
- 29:51Speaker 3: accused of flying up on the taxpayer's done to buy
- 29:54Speaker 3: properties in Queensland.
- 29:55Speaker 2: An interesting point, though she's been in parliament twenty four years,
- 29:59Speaker 2: I think it is, and we're still trying to figure
- 30:01Speaker 2: out how to pronounce her surname, whether it's Lee or Lee.
- 30:06Speaker 2: You just said many people haven't heard much from her.
- 30:09Speaker 2: Doesn't that say something? She's been in parliament so long
- 30:12Speaker 2: and is largely unknown to to some degree.
- 30:15Speaker 3: But that is often the problem for opposition leaders, that
- 30:18Speaker 3: the people don't know who they are. And I mean
- 30:21Speaker 3: I was in South Australia when Peter Malinowskis was opposition
- 30:24Speaker 3: leader and then of course ran for premier, and the
- 30:26Speaker 3: major criticism of Peter Malinowskis at the time was no
- 30:29Speaker 3: one's ever.
- 30:30Speaker 2: Heard of the plow in the Howard government.
- 30:32Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, butment even then, you spend enough time
- 30:36Speaker 3: in the wilderness, people don't necessarily recognize you. But to
- 30:39Speaker 3: be twenty four years in a regional seat as a
- 30:42Speaker 3: Liberal member and she's held that seat with a reasonably
- 30:45Speaker 3: strong margin all that time is a pretty good effort
- 30:47Speaker 3: in and of itself. So if she can do that,
- 30:50Speaker 3: let's hope she can translate that to something on the
- 30:53Speaker 3: national level. Again, you know, I don't think she was
- 30:56Speaker 3: necessarily the best option for the job. I think Andrew
- 30:58Speaker 3: Hasty was the best option for the job. But on
- 31:01Speaker 3: what I saw today, I think she's got a reasonable
- 31:04Speaker 3: go at it.
- 31:04Speaker 5: I'm glad Andrew Hasey pulled himself out of the ring
- 31:07Speaker 5: for this. I mean, I know that a lot of
- 31:09Speaker 5: people were hopeful, but that is a prime minister of
- 31:12Speaker 5: the future. You need to keep your powder dry. I
- 31:15Speaker 5: think it would have been very reckless and such a
- 31:17Speaker 5: waste to wiel your Ferrari out at a time and
- 31:20Speaker 5: we know we're looking at at least two terms in opposition.
- 31:24Speaker 4: You'd burned so much collateral. He'll do great in whatever.
- 31:29Speaker 5: Portfolio he ends up in, which I very much assume
- 31:34Speaker 5: he will be. But my goodness, no, I'm very glad
- 31:38Speaker 5: that he pulled out.
- 31:40Speaker 4: I just can't believe. Firstly, Susan, I only.
- 31:43Speaker 5: Got up by three votes today, but I can't believe
- 31:47Speaker 5: that people were voting for for me.
- 31:51Speaker 4: It wasn't so much Angus Taylor.
- 31:52Speaker 5: It was the idea of Senator Jacinta Nampa jimpa.
- 31:56Speaker 4: Price as deputy.
- 31:58Speaker 5: She would have been an absolute done and it was
- 32:01Speaker 5: more the duo that sold the package for me, and
- 32:04Speaker 5: I find it hard to believe that whatever factions were
- 32:07Speaker 5: warring in the Liberal Party party room when this vote
- 32:10Speaker 5: was taken, could not.
- 32:12Speaker 4: See how that would be a real winner.
- 32:14Speaker 5: I think it would have been so strong it certainly
- 32:17Speaker 5: would have gotten my vote, Not that it matters because
- 32:20Speaker 5: I wasn't there, But look, I'm hopeful that Susan lay
- 32:23Speaker 5: can pull these guys together. Given how divided the pretty
- 32:28Speaker 5: much straight down the middle almost the party room was today,
- 32:31Speaker 5: she certainly got her work cut out for her, indeed,
- 32:35Speaker 5: But here's hoping that brighter days are ahead, because right
- 32:39Speaker 5: now it couldn't get much worse for the federal Liberal Party.
- 32:41Speaker 3: And I hope she keeps just seeing an ampertuper price
- 32:44Speaker 3: close to her now because she is she's a great
- 32:47Speaker 3: asset for the Liberal past, incredibly and having changed party
- 32:51Speaker 3: rooms and said that she wants to be a part
- 32:53Speaker 3: of the Liberal party room, I hope they'd take that
- 32:55Speaker 3: seriously and use her because she was so absent throughout
- 32:58Speaker 3: the campaign, and I really think she is a vote winner.
- 33:01Speaker 3: She's strong, she speaks directly to people. She represents so
- 33:06Speaker 3: many things that are often so absent from politics, which
- 33:09Speaker 3: is real life experience and you know, a hard upbringing
- 33:13Speaker 3: and whatever. She's not a privileged person whatsoever. She can
- 33:16Speaker 3: talk to the average joe and that's exactly what they
- 33:19Speaker 3: need more of.
- 33:20Speaker 2: She's been in Liberal Party five minutes and she is
- 33:22Speaker 2: already their best communicator by far.
- 33:24Speaker 3: Yep, yep, and let's hope they use her. Speaking of communication,
- 33:28Speaker 3: the message may not well have gotten through to you
- 33:30Speaker 3: that es scooters are illegal in most of the country
- 33:33Speaker 3: because if you walk out on the street you can
- 33:36Speaker 3: see them pretty much everywhere. Yes, Victoria, New South Wales,
- 33:39Speaker 3: they are currently illegal to own private ees scooters, but
- 33:43Speaker 3: because it hasn't stopped anyone using them, so in New
- 33:46Speaker 3: South Wales now they say, well, you can't beat it.
- 33:49Speaker 3: They're out there already, so we'll change the law to
- 33:52Speaker 3: make sure that they are illegal. But it'll come with
- 33:54Speaker 3: a few rules. One will be that you have to
- 33:56Speaker 3: be over sixteen to ride one. Fair enough, you need
- 33:59Speaker 3: to be over sixteen to drive a car, et cetera,
- 34:01Speaker 3: but you won't be able to ride it over twenty
- 34:04Speaker 3: kilometers an hour. I very much look forward to the
- 34:07Speaker 3: coppers sitting on the side of the road, you know,
- 34:10Speaker 3: catching all the people getting around on their e scooters
- 34:13Speaker 3: going over twenty kilometers or how dare they over twenty
- 34:16Speaker 3: kilometers an hour? You won't be able to ride them
- 34:18Speaker 3: on the footpath, you'll be able to ride them on
- 34:20Speaker 3: the road, and you'll be able to ride them on
- 34:22Speaker 3: shared paths like bike paths, et cetera. And now in
- 34:26Speaker 3: Queensland they're talking about having an inquiry into this as well.
- 34:29Speaker 3: Deb Frecklington, the Attorney General, says unsafe and unlawful riding
- 34:34Speaker 3: practices can't be ignored. I hear the concerns of our
- 34:36Speaker 3: communities loud and clear. It's time Queensland had clear, consistent
- 34:40Speaker 3: and enforceable rules that keep pace with evolving technology and
- 34:44Speaker 3: protect everyone using our shared public spaces. I will say, though,
- 34:48Speaker 3: what is the fundamental difference between someone riding an e
- 34:51Speaker 3: scooter and a bike?
- 34:52Speaker 2: And here is the big problem with these laws. It
- 34:55Speaker 2: will be illegal to ride an east scooter on the footpath,
- 34:59Speaker 2: but you can still ride an e bike on the footpath.
- 35:02Speaker 2: And it will be illegal to ride an EES scooter
- 35:03Speaker 2: if you're under the age of sixteen, but it's not
- 35:06Speaker 2: illegal to ride an EE bike if you're under the
- 35:08Speaker 2: age of six.
- 35:08Speaker 3: And you can't go over twenty kilometers an hour. I mean,
- 35:11Speaker 3: if you told my father, he's a cyclist, that he
- 35:13Speaker 3: couldn't do more than twenty k on his big he'd
- 35:15Speaker 3: throw the thing at you.
- 35:16Speaker 2: So you can do more than twenty k's on your
- 35:18Speaker 2: e bike, you just can't do it on an e scooter.
- 35:20Speaker 2: These laws are not only unenforceable, but there's so many
- 35:23Speaker 2: contradictions in them. I'm not sure that they're going to flight.
- 35:27Speaker 2: Doesn't make sense.
- 35:28Speaker 4: And also, how are you going to make sixteen year
- 35:30Speaker 4: olds aware?
- 35:31Speaker 5: Like the vast majority of people that I see tearing
- 35:33Speaker 5: around on these things are kids. They're teenagers or you'd
- 35:37Speaker 5: say young twenties.
- 35:39Speaker 4: They love to do it in packs. And who's going
- 35:42Speaker 4: to be going around? What are you going to.
- 35:44Speaker 5: Let a box it and be like, dear children, this
- 35:47Speaker 5: is no longer allowed, and you must be under the
- 35:50Speaker 5: twenty k's at all times and only in these I mean,
- 35:53Speaker 5: it is, as you say, quite unenforceable because the target
- 35:57Speaker 5: market you're not seeing adults getting around on these things.
- 36:01Speaker 5: The target market is pretty much unreachable. If you're a
- 36:06Speaker 5: parliamentarian getting up stating oh this is the law, now
- 36:10Speaker 5: the kids aren't watching.
- 36:12Speaker 3: Sorry to know one adult I have seen get around
- 36:15Speaker 3: on an e scooter and I believe he did own one.
- 36:18Speaker 3: I don't know if he still did. Trade Minister Don
- 36:20Speaker 3: Farrell dead set was getting around Adelaide and I sent
- 36:25Speaker 3: him a text. I was like, did I see you
- 36:27Speaker 3: on an e Scooter's like, yeah, absolutely, I'm on board.
- 36:30Speaker 3: I mean, if it's good enough for the Trade Minister,
- 36:32Speaker 3: then it's good enough for the rest of it.
- 36:34Speaker 2: I went to a football game at the Gather in
- 36:35Speaker 2: Brisbane and I was trying to get an uber back
- 36:37Speaker 2: to my hotel. Could not get an uber. Traffic was jammed,
- 36:40Speaker 2: no public transport. So I'm walking back to the hotel
- 36:44Speaker 2: across the story bridge and I saw a scooter and
- 36:46Speaker 2: I thought, you know what, I'm going to give this
- 36:47Speaker 2: a crash. Almost killed myself, but it was a lot
- 36:50Speaker 2: of fun and I got to admit I'm a bit
- 36:52Speaker 2: of a fan of them. We're going to go to
- 36:53Speaker 2: a break when we come back to what's making news tomorrow,
- 36:56Speaker 2: including the Victorian State government on a collision course with
- 36:59Speaker 2: the Aboriginal Truth Telling Commission that they themselves commission that's
- 37:03Speaker 2: coming up in the moment. Welcome back. Let's take a
- 37:12Speaker 2: look at tomorrow's headlines. The front page of The Australian
- 37:15Speaker 2: is always good and lives tomorrow's front pages no exception.
- 37:18Speaker 4: Indeed, it does not disappoint.
- 37:20Speaker 5: There's a little story in the right hand corner that
- 37:24Speaker 5: says truth telling collision course for Premier Victoria's Yuruk truth
- 37:29Speaker 5: Telling leader has taken aim at just center Allen's bail
- 37:32Speaker 5: reforms and questioned the meaning of apologies from labor ministers
- 37:37Speaker 5: and officials to indigenous communities. Where with you there, mate,
- 37:41Speaker 5: We questioned the meaning of them on a daily basis,
- 37:44Speaker 5: setting your rook Justice Commission on a coalision course with
- 37:48Speaker 5: the government over law and order. Just weeks before the
- 37:50Speaker 5: release of its final report from.
- 37:52Speaker 4: Its four year roving Royal.
- 37:54Speaker 5: Commission, Chair Eleanor Burke has warned of collateral damage from
- 37:59Speaker 5: the government's bail laws. It goes on to say that
- 38:03Speaker 5: Professor Burke said the final report would contain more than
- 38:06Speaker 5: one hundred recommendations, so the Victorian government is going to
- 38:11Speaker 5: be very busy sifting through those, and of course, given
- 38:15Speaker 5: what they've said and how passionate they've been about this,
- 38:17Speaker 5: they'll have quite a bit of egg on their faces
- 38:20Speaker 5: if they don't agree to at least the vast majority
- 38:22Speaker 5: of them.
- 38:23Speaker 2: That was my key takeaway from having a look at
- 38:25Speaker 2: this story. One hundred recommendations, how many of those do
- 38:28Speaker 2: you think they could set aside without being accused of
- 38:31Speaker 2: being racist and letting down every Indigenous person in Victoria.
- 38:34Speaker 2: Amongst those recommendations, it's tipped to be changes to the
- 38:38Speaker 2: school curriculum so that kids learn the true story of Victoria.
- 38:44Speaker 2: As for bail laws, I mean, man, that's a big
- 38:47Speaker 2: call to expect the government to change bail laws because
- 38:49Speaker 2: it might adversely affect people of a specific community.
- 38:53Speaker 4: Especially after they've just changed.
- 38:55Speaker 3: It won't happen. I mean, it simply won't happen. Alan's
- 38:58Speaker 3: not just going to roll over. Yes, it's all fine.
- 39:00Speaker 3: Now I'll get rid of my Baylor. It's not going
- 39:02Speaker 3: to happen. But it proves the point that, you know,
- 39:05Speaker 3: don't go asking questions you don't want the answer to.
- 39:09Speaker 3: And this is the problem. You say, oh, look it's
- 39:11Speaker 3: all fine, or how great a we we're off saying
- 39:14Speaker 3: that we want the opinion of Aboriginal people, and she
- 39:18Speaker 3: will now have to turn around and dismiss many of
- 39:21Speaker 3: those opinions.
- 39:23Speaker 2: Because it's not just opinion it's truth.
- 39:25Speaker 3: Well, Jack can't argue with that, can you? And you
- 39:29Speaker 3: said you said the history true history of Victoria. It
- 39:32Speaker 3: says here quote the true history of the place now
- 39:36Speaker 3: called Victoria. James, you should be on top of that.
- 39:39Speaker 3: By the way, is when you said you're going to
- 39:41Speaker 3: talk about the story in the right hand corner, I
- 39:43Speaker 3: thought you were going to talk about the one in
- 39:44Speaker 3: the top right hand corner that says the Denham double
- 39:46Speaker 3: take Ossie designers adding sophistication to a staple. I think
- 39:51Speaker 3: that's well, we're talking about too.
- 39:53Speaker 5: You're going to change the state of the nation to
- 39:55Speaker 5: a headline that actually will. Though Bowen feels silent win
- 40:00Speaker 5: at his back in Bolden's climate change and Energy Minister
- 40:04Speaker 5: Chris Bowen has doubled down on Labour's rollout of Offshaw
- 40:08Speaker 5: wind farms, renewables and the phase out of call fired
- 40:11Speaker 5: power plans in a post election attack on critics of
- 40:15Speaker 5: his green power agenda, who he declares were rejected by
- 40:19Speaker 5: Australia's silent majority. After being sworn in on Tuesday for
- 40:23Speaker 5: a second term, mister Bowen will turbocharge Labour's clean energy
- 40:27Speaker 5: revolution to achieve the government's ambitious goal of eighty two
- 40:32Speaker 5: percent of renewables in the electricity grid by twenty thirty.
- 40:38Speaker 4: Who among us actually believes that in just.
- 40:42Speaker 5: Five years' time we're going to have eighty two percent
- 40:45Speaker 5: renewables powering our energy grid.
- 40:48Speaker 4: I mean, what an actual laugh I feel like.
- 40:52Speaker 5: And parties do this post election all the time. They go, oh,
- 40:55Speaker 5: let's revisit our policies because obviously they re elected Labor
- 41:00Speaker 5: and by such a large margin, so everyone loves all
- 41:03Speaker 5: our policies. I'm one of those people who believes that
- 41:07Speaker 5: the vast majority of Australians going to the polling booths aren't.
- 41:10Speaker 4: That aware of your policies. Well, and truly I have
- 41:14Speaker 4: stood on enough.
- 41:15Speaker 5: Polling booths to know a lot of Ossie's vote because
- 41:18Speaker 5: they don't want to copy fine for not voting. So
- 41:22Speaker 5: for Labor to now say, oh, well, this is our
- 41:25Speaker 5: mandate on every policy that.
- 41:27Speaker 4: We took to the election. Similarly, for the.
- 41:29Speaker 5: Liberals to be like, oh now we've got a urf
- 41:31Speaker 5: every policy that we took to the election, I think
- 41:34Speaker 5: is a massive mistake.
- 41:37Speaker 4: It's simply not true.
- 41:39Speaker 5: How do you know that people weren't just voting for
- 41:41Speaker 5: a bit of stability are when Easy is the first
- 41:44Speaker 5: Prime Minister since John Howard in two thousand and four
- 41:47Speaker 5: to be a re elected PM. We've just had this
- 41:49Speaker 5: revolving door of prime ministers. Who's to say that OSSI's
- 41:53Speaker 5: weren't just like, you know what, I'm sick of that.
- 41:55Speaker 2: Well, only one in three Australians actually voted for this
- 41:58Speaker 2: government anyway. I do like the headline, I'm Caleb and
- 42:01Speaker 2: you're newspaper man. I do wonder if the subby was
- 42:04Speaker 2: having a bit of fun there with the wind at
- 42:07Speaker 2: Bowen's back. I'm not sure what that refers to. But
- 42:09Speaker 2: while Bowen thinks he's got the silent majority with him,
- 42:12Speaker 2: that little story that's speed inserted there into that front
- 42:16Speaker 2: page splash hitches slow down corporate sector's energy transition. It
- 42:21Speaker 2: reports that Twiggy Forest has slashed ninety hydrogen jobs in
- 42:26Speaker 2: the latest setback for the powersource. So you've got Chris
- 42:28Speaker 2: Bowen saying the country's on board, and then you've got
- 42:31Speaker 2: corporations saying, you know what, we need to slow this
- 42:34Speaker 2: transition down. It's not going to work for you.
- 42:36Speaker 3: We want to talk about bowen silent window. I think
- 42:38Speaker 3: he's probably silent but deadly, I think is what he's done.
- 42:42Speaker 3: By the way, I've just got an email here from
- 42:43Speaker 3: a mob called covering Climate Now, and they say, dear colleague,
- 42:47Speaker 3: join us next Wednesday, May the twitty first, for an
- 42:50Speaker 3: hour long prep your climate coverage. Women are about summer
- 42:53Speaker 3: heat and hurricanes. I think they must have sink back
- 42:56Speaker 3: to the wrong calb bond. Let's get into the CANS
- 42:58Speaker 3: boast tomorrow, where is pensioners fight rate ras. Retirees will
- 43:02Speaker 3: deliver a hastily prepared deputation to CANS councilors protesting a
- 43:07Speaker 3: staggering eight hundred percent rate hike. And this is indeed
- 43:11Speaker 3: true that the Council in CANS wants to change the
- 43:14Speaker 3: rules around retirement villages because at the moment, some retirement
- 43:19Speaker 3: villages are sort of receiving an overall rates bill that
- 43:23Speaker 3: means that per house or per dwelling inside the retirement village,
- 43:27Speaker 3: each one is only paying you know, fifty odd bucks
- 43:30Speaker 3: or something a year in rates, And so they will
- 43:32Speaker 3: they say you should be paying the same as everyone
- 43:35Speaker 3: who actually owns a freestanding dwelling is paying, which is
- 43:39Speaker 3: a minimum of one thousand dollars a year. So in
- 43:42Speaker 3: some of these retirement villages that have been operating well
- 43:45Speaker 3: under the rules as they have been, they are being
- 43:48Speaker 3: told an eight hundred percent rate hike is what they
- 43:51Speaker 3: will face. Pensioners will go from paying fifty bucks a
- 43:55Speaker 3: year to more than one thousand dollars a year because
- 43:58Speaker 3: the council has gone, oh, will we better close that
- 44:00Speaker 3: loophole and go and get the money. I mean, you know,
- 44:03Speaker 3: I've often said it's not a rut, it's only ruwed
- 44:06Speaker 3: if you're not in on it. But they were simply
- 44:08Speaker 3: operating under the rules as they were. They bought into
- 44:11Speaker 3: the place that being the rules, and then the council
- 44:14Speaker 3: wants to turn around and say, no, actually, now you're
- 44:17Speaker 3: going to pay one thousand dollars a year. Of course
- 44:18Speaker 3: you'd be livid.
- 44:19Speaker 5: And pensioners get reduced rates for all kinds of things.
- 44:23Speaker 5: So it stands to reason, and I don't think other
- 44:26Speaker 5: rate payers would have a problem with this, simply saying, heck,
- 44:30Speaker 5: you're on a pension, we don't expect you to be
- 44:32Speaker 5: able to afford what the rest of us can. When
- 44:35Speaker 5: a lot of homes are double income, or even if
- 44:38Speaker 5: you're single income, you're fetching a lot more than any pensioner.
- 44:42Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's got the front page of the Adelaide Advertiser.
- 44:46Speaker 2: Longest wait of All, reads the headlines. It's an exclusive
- 44:49Speaker 2: story detailing a three year delay to the new women
- 44:52Speaker 2: and Children's Hospital that could cost hundreds of millions of dollars.
- 44:56Speaker 2: The article reads, Construction of Australia's most expensive building, the
- 45:00Speaker 2: three point two billion dollar new Women's and Children's Hospital,
- 45:03Speaker 2: faces a three year delay according to confidential documents based
- 45:07Speaker 2: on previous estimates of a ten million dollar a month
- 45:10Speaker 2: cost of any delay, the blowout could run to if
- 45:13Speaker 2: it goes the whole three years, an extra three hundred
- 45:16Speaker 2: and sixty million dollars. This project was first begun by
- 45:19Speaker 2: the Labor Party in twenty thirteen, was due to be
- 45:23Speaker 2: completed about now, but may go on a lot longer.
- 45:28Speaker 2: You're estimating it could be twenty years before it actually opens.
- 45:31Speaker 2: That's quite an overrun and quite a delay. Just incredible.
- 45:36Speaker 4: Indeed, to the front page of the Herald Son. Now
- 45:39Speaker 4: very interesting story. Ladies. Listen up.
- 45:42Speaker 5: If you have endometriosis or know anyone who does, here's
- 45:46Speaker 5: one of interest to you.
- 45:48Speaker 4: Endopain relief diet.
- 45:50Speaker 5: The headline reads a special diet designed by scientists can
- 45:54Speaker 5: manage common but often overlooked endometriosis symptoms. A new study
- 45:59Speaker 5: has found and Monash University reached the churches discovered women
- 46:03Speaker 5: with the chronic illness can reduce their gastro intestinal symptoms
- 46:07Speaker 5: by lowering their intake of a key group of carbohydrates in.
- 46:11Speaker 4: A world first trial.
- 46:14Speaker 5: The low fod MAP diet was first developed by Monash
- 46:18Speaker 5: for patients with irritable bowel syndrome, but this new study
- 46:21Speaker 5: shows he could also reduce pain for women with endometriosis.
- 46:27Speaker 5: I mean, if indeed true. Heck, I don't know anyone
- 46:31Speaker 5: with endometriosis who wouldn't be willing to give anything a
- 46:34Speaker 5: go if it might help out with their sympact.
- 46:36Speaker 2: That very good. All right, We're going to go to
- 46:38Speaker 2: a break. When we come back, we'll play you a
- 46:40Speaker 2: race callers call horse racing. You don't have to be
- 46:43Speaker 2: a horse racing fan like my friend Caleb to appreciate it.
- 46:46Speaker 2: We'll plat for you. Here's the second. How does that
- 46:51Speaker 2: old expression go with friends like these? Who needs enemies?
- 46:54Speaker 2: I think that might apply to Donald Trump. Trump has
- 46:57Speaker 2: just lowered the cost of medicines in the US. And
- 47:00Speaker 2: he told the story of a friend who was traveling
- 47:04Speaker 2: abroad and reported just how expensive US drugs are compared
- 47:07Speaker 2: to overseas. He told the story in support of his policy,
- 47:10Speaker 2: But I don't know that he needed to go into
- 47:12Speaker 2: all the details about his friend.
- 47:16Speaker 1: I mean, I'll tell you a story. Friend of mine
- 47:17Speaker 1: who's a business man, very very, very top guy.
- 47:22Speaker 4: Most of you would have heard of him.
- 47:24Speaker 1: A highly neurotic, brilliant businessman, seriously overweight, and he takes
- 47:32Speaker 1: to fat shot drug.
- 47:34Speaker 2: Very successful, very rich.
- 47:36Speaker 4: I wouldn't even know how we would know this.
- 47:37Speaker 1: But because he's got comments, President, could I ask.
- 47:40Speaker 4: You a question.
- 47:40Speaker 1: What I'm in London and I just paid for this
- 47:44Speaker 1: damn fat drug I take. I said, it's not working,
- 47:48Speaker 1: he said, He said, I just paid eighty eight dollars
- 47:54Speaker 1: and in New York I paid thirteen hundred dollars.
- 47:57Speaker 4: What the hell is going on?
- 48:00Speaker 2: Let me tell you about my friend. He is new ronic,
- 48:02Speaker 2: he's seriously overweight, he's taking the fat shot. I gotta say,
- 48:05Speaker 2: the fat shot. I hate working for him. Who needs friends?
- 48:08Speaker 2: Like dog Trum.
- 48:10Speaker 5: Seriously belongs in a comedian standard routine. All you need
- 48:14Speaker 5: is a sein Felt? Is he playing in the background.
- 48:17Speaker 5: I have this friend I love that. He's like trying
- 48:20Speaker 5: to sell this new executive order that he signed on Monday,
- 48:23Speaker 5: and so he uses this example of a friend of his.
- 48:26Speaker 5: He's probably sitting at home watching being like, oh fatty.
- 48:29Speaker 5: People can probably pull out who I am based on
- 48:32Speaker 5: that poor little fatty.
- 48:33Speaker 3: Now, of course, if you were watching Mornington Race six yesterday,
- 48:37Speaker 3: you're on Williamstown paid three ninety one by half lengths.
- 48:40Speaker 3: He'd be very happy. But there was another horse in
- 48:42Speaker 3: the race that raised a few eyebrows.
- 48:45Speaker 8: Williamstown gets off the fence to give chase unfair dismissal
- 48:49Speaker 8: a shot back by the looks of the tax's fortune
- 48:52Speaker 8: making ground, and then an alarm goes off to scare
- 48:54Speaker 8: this out of the race corder. They were followed further
- 48:57Speaker 8: back in the field by Marissa.
- 49:00Speaker 3: And if I knew there was a horse, could an
- 49:01Speaker 3: alarm goes off to scare the you know what out
- 49:03Speaker 3: of the race caller? I would have had a bed
- 49:04Speaker 3: on the thing. Terry Bailey, he's known for going the
- 49:07Speaker 3: early crow, but you would have forgiven him for jumping
- 49:10Speaker 3: up and down after that thing went on.
- 49:11Speaker 2: Bunny's not bad at all, well, that's it from us
- 49:14Speaker 2: to stick around. Coming up is the Read a Penny Show,
- 49:16Speaker 2: good Night,