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- 0:00Speaker 1: It's thirty eight. All bills can win In here, Wake
- 0:02Speaker 1: puts it down, the kick is on the way, and
- 0:05Speaker 1: d dock and the bill good one? How the hell
- 0:08Speaker 1: that one.
- 0:11Speaker 2: Home?
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- 0:16Speaker 1: Incredible? Why not combat by my bell? Jacksonville's perfect record
- 0:22Speaker 1: on the line right here.
- 0:27Speaker 2: Quick.
- 0:30Speaker 3: Kicking, look excited.
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- 1:48Speaker 1: A and T. In tonight's episode of Disguised Coverage, it
- 1:53Speaker 1: is Chiefs week here at Disguised Coverage, and for the
- 1:57Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills what seems to be a yearly tradition of
- 2:00Speaker 1: playing the Kansas City Chiefs in the regular season, followed
- 2:02Speaker 1: by what is also kind of been traditional of playing
- 2:06Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs again later in the year for
- 2:08Speaker 1: a second time in the playoffs. An important game for
- 2:12Speaker 1: the Bills, potentially important game for the Kansas City Chiefs.
- 2:15Speaker 1: Think this one is kind of ratcheted up for the
- 2:17Speaker 1: fan basis, especially at least from a Bill's perspective, given
- 2:20Speaker 1: how last year's exit came in the playoffs, once again
- 2:23Speaker 1: at the hands of the Kansas City Chiefs, everybody's favorite.
- 2:25Speaker 1: I could see my guest off screen who is smiling
- 2:27Speaker 1: and yucking it up as I say that already. So
- 2:30Speaker 1: we're going to dive into the critical elements and matchup
- 2:33Speaker 1: pieces that will decide this game, as we are one
- 2:36Speaker 1: to do here on the n season episode of Disguised
- 2:39Speaker 1: Covered so scheme structure, x's and o's player analysis, positional
- 2:43Speaker 1: group breakdowns, coaching pieces, anything and everything is fair and
- 2:47Speaker 1: available on the table tonight for a conversation in terms
- 2:50Speaker 1: of detailing who, what and how bills versus chiefs will
- 2:54Speaker 1: be decided and to do that and have that conversation.
- 2:57Speaker 1: I said we and that's because I am not a
- 3:00Speaker 1: in this episode. Welcoming to the show. Welcome, that's not
- 3:04Speaker 1: proper verbgic at verbiage. Welcome to the show. I don't
- 3:06Speaker 1: know what happened mister Matt Lane of the CAC Sports Network,
- 3:10Speaker 1: who I believe you folks should know by now, because
- 3:12Speaker 1: this is I've lost count at. You and I were
- 3:14Speaker 1: talking offline, which is why we're late. We always do.
- 3:17Speaker 1: We talk a lot on the show, we talk a
- 3:18Speaker 1: lot offline. You're a good dude. I appreciate the hell out. Yeah.
- 3:22Speaker 1: I don't think it's like your fourth time, yere fifth
- 3:25Speaker 1: because it's you. It's like they're playing like twice a
- 3:27Speaker 1: year for the last like, Yes, I think it's been
- 3:30Speaker 1: quite a few now, Yeah, it has been quite a few.
- 3:32Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Thank you for joining me, I
- 3:35Speaker 1: thank you for having me on again.
- 3:36Speaker 3: I always says I don't do a lot of like
- 3:38Speaker 3: outside of KCS and podcasts every year.
- 3:40Speaker 1: And not that I'm against it or anything like that.
- 3:41Speaker 3: You know, I just busy schedule myself and then with
- 3:44Speaker 3: all the stuff we do at cacs in and then
- 3:46Speaker 3: real life. I don't have a lot of time to
- 3:47Speaker 3: get a lot of stuff done. But anytime you guys,
- 3:49Speaker 3: you know, cover One, come ask, I will happily make
- 3:51Speaker 3: time because I love coming to talk to you guys.
- 3:53Speaker 3: You know, we get along very well. This is this
- 3:56Speaker 3: is my favorite rivalry. Is my favorite team for the
- 3:58Speaker 3: Chiefs to play and go back and with is the Bills,
- 4:00Speaker 3: because I don't really have any animosity towards the Bills
- 4:03Speaker 3: as a team whatsoever, you know, like the Bengals, let's
- 4:07Speaker 3: not go yeah, but like I like the Bills, so
- 4:10Speaker 3: yea right, So this is there's a fund. I love
- 4:12Speaker 3: to come in on here and talk around a little bit,
- 4:13Speaker 3: and like, you know, I guess it helps that the Chiefs,
- 4:16Speaker 3: you know, kind of win every time it matters.
- 4:19Speaker 1: That's really mean. I was, you know, somebody's coming into tonight.
- 4:22Speaker 1: I was already like, I wonder how long it takes
- 4:26Speaker 1: Matt to like sneak in a dig at it, Like
- 4:28Speaker 1: last last time you kept it really in there until
- 4:32Speaker 1: like right before you left, and you snuck it in
- 4:34Speaker 1: there and then like exited out Like that was really
- 4:35Speaker 1: well played. But I like you got it out early.
- 4:37Speaker 1: I'm sure there's probably more that that's bound to happen,
- 4:39Speaker 1: but yeah, you're a good dude, and you know it's funny.
- 4:41Speaker 1: I this year, I've kind of pivoted a little bit
- 4:44Speaker 1: for some nd season stuff I've done. Instead of just
- 4:46Speaker 1: doing like the matchup breakdowns each week, I've done film
- 4:49Speaker 1: breakdowns on specific aspects. You know, I've done multiple key
- 4:52Speaker 1: on Coleman like features and film breakdowns I've done last week,
- 4:56Speaker 1: I did, you know, kind of focusing on how Alan
- 4:59Speaker 1: took what was geting to him by the Dolphins defense
- 5:01Speaker 1: again film breakdown. So I pivoted a little bit, but
- 5:03Speaker 1: this one I was like, no, I'm going back to
- 5:05Speaker 1: the regular format because I could probably have Matt on
- 5:07Speaker 1: And I told myself, I was like, and Matt says,
- 5:09Speaker 1: he's unavailable. I'm just gonna go back to the newer
- 5:11Speaker 1: stuff I'm doing. So it's nice to kind of get
- 5:13Speaker 1: back in the saddle again and have this conversation with
- 5:15Speaker 1: you and yeah, we'll see what happens in this game
- 5:17Speaker 1: and potentially going forward a bit of a different conversation
- 5:20Speaker 1: this time versus the regular season conversation we had last time.
- 5:23Speaker 1: The Bills were scuffling a little bit, the Chiefs were
- 5:26Speaker 1: scuffling a little bit. We were sitting here having a
- 5:28Speaker 1: conversation of like, this is kind of a really big
- 5:30Speaker 1: important game for both teams. Now Bills are sitting there,
- 5:34Speaker 1: five game win streak, eight and two, yeah and two.
- 5:38Speaker 1: The Chiefs are sitting there undefeated at nine to and
- 5:41Speaker 1: oh on the year, after another dominating performance against the
- 5:45Speaker 1: debt Broncos. Let's go, let's go. You know, it's funny.
- 5:49Speaker 1: As they were lining up, I don't know why. I
- 5:51Speaker 1: was like, I didn't think I was gonna get blocked.
- 5:53Speaker 1: I was like, they're going to miss this kick, and
- 5:54Speaker 1: then it got blocked, and I was like that tracks.
- 5:57Speaker 1: So this Chiefs team nine to oh. I think for
- 5:59Speaker 1: a lot of people, people who aren't diving into them
- 6:01Speaker 1: and watching them and probably hate them, it's a very
- 6:05Speaker 1: unimpressive nine and oh. It's they shouldn't be. They should
- 6:08Speaker 1: at least have one or two or maybe three losses.
- 6:11Speaker 1: I can't believe they continue to pull these games out.
- 6:13Speaker 1: YadA YadA, what or who or what are the Kansas
- 6:18Speaker 1: City Chiefs right now? Are they truly like this nine
- 6:21Speaker 1: and oh team? Are they a very vulnerable nine and
- 6:24Speaker 1: o team? Like I always know the old adage from
- 6:26Speaker 1: Bill Parcells, like you are what your record says you are,
- 6:29Speaker 1: But what's your take, you know, kind of temperature check
- 6:31Speaker 1: of this Chiefs team, given where they are this season
- 6:33Speaker 1: and what their record says they are.
- 6:36Speaker 3: This is like the most loaded question I think you
- 6:38Speaker 3: can possibly ask any Chiefs fan right now, especially like
- 6:42Speaker 3: when you're not in the heat of the moment and
- 6:43Speaker 3: just kind of being like pure fan of like, hah,
- 6:45Speaker 3: we're the best because we're nine to oh, back to
- 6:47Speaker 3: back world champions, you know, YadA YadA, yah they got.
- 6:50Speaker 1: One to three in the last like six years.
- 6:52Speaker 3: When you're not all right, but when you're not going
- 6:54Speaker 3: through all that, you're like, look at this team. They're
- 6:56Speaker 3: nine to oh, but they have all these one score
- 6:58Speaker 3: wins and even some of these one score wins, like they.
- 7:01Speaker 1: Do seem lucky.
- 7:02Speaker 3: Yeh, they do seem a little lucky when you watch them. Now,
- 7:04Speaker 3: I will push back that it's not luck because you
- 7:07Speaker 3: watch it. How a lot of these go down and
- 7:09Speaker 3: like stuff. It's a lot of good plays being made
- 7:11Speaker 3: by the Chiefs like these, not just missed field goals.
- 7:14Speaker 3: This isn't just like completely random plays that the Chiefs.
- 7:17Speaker 1: Don't play a pard in.
- 7:18Speaker 3: So if I were to say what the Chiefs are
- 7:21Speaker 3: right now, they are a very good team that is
- 7:23Speaker 3: still gonna be very different in the playoffs than they
- 7:25Speaker 3: are right now. This team is not gonna show you
- 7:28Speaker 3: their final self right now. You're not gonna really see
- 7:30Speaker 3: that until it matters into the playoffs. But they are
- 7:33Speaker 3: a very good team right now that knows how to win.
- 7:36Speaker 3: They just simply doesn't. It sounds very cliche, and this
- 7:39Speaker 3: is the annoying You had to listen to Tom Brady
- 7:41Speaker 3: and Bill Belichick talk about this for twenty years is
- 7:43Speaker 3: and it sucked when you're on the other side of it.
- 7:46Speaker 3: Now being in those shoes, though, I get it, because
- 7:49Speaker 3: they just know how to win. You want to make
- 7:51Speaker 3: them win with defense, fine, you want to make them
- 7:53Speaker 3: win on offense, Okay, you're gonna make them win on
- 7:56Speaker 3: special teams?
- 7:57Speaker 2: Sure?
- 7:57Speaker 1: Why not?
- 7:58Speaker 3: We saw that You're starting center who kicks over to
- 8:00Speaker 3: play left tackle in your field goal game can end up.
- 8:02Speaker 1: On his back.
- 8:03Speaker 3: Looking like a dead bug every time they kick the ball.
- 8:06Speaker 3: We're gonna go ahead and put our strongest player over
- 8:08Speaker 3: him and see if he can block the kick, because
- 8:10Speaker 3: he got really close to other times. Like, they just
- 8:12Speaker 3: know how to win. And so it's so hard to
- 8:15Speaker 3: answer the question because they're not playing great. They're playing
- 8:17Speaker 3: a lot of C plus B minus games, but they
- 8:20Speaker 3: make their opponents play C plus and B minus games,
- 8:22Speaker 3: and the Chiefs at a C plus are better than any
- 8:24Speaker 3: other team at a C plus, like if that makes
- 8:26Speaker 3: any sense, And they're really good at pulling you down
- 8:28Speaker 3: into the muck with them.
- 8:30Speaker 1: That's a really good way to put it. And I
- 8:33Speaker 1: think at a certain point, right you have to. I
- 8:37Speaker 1: think there's a level of luck that's involved in all sports.
- 8:40Speaker 1: I don't care what it is, but at a certain point,
- 8:44Speaker 1: if you are continuously lucky, I think there's something to
- 8:48Speaker 1: be said for kind of the skill of being lucky,
- 8:52Speaker 1: if that makes sense, or like putting yourself in the
- 8:54Speaker 1: position to have that lucky rewarding if that makes sense.
- 8:58Speaker 1: That's it to your point, Like the field goal, like
- 9:01Speaker 1: you hit it, it wasn't just like well, of course
- 9:03Speaker 1: they blocked the field goal man that's so lucky. It's like, well,
- 9:05Speaker 1: they kind of identified this potential weakness and took advantage
- 9:09Speaker 1: of it. Now, is is there a high probability of
- 9:12Speaker 1: that succeeding. No, but it wasn't. It didn't just happen,
- 9:16Speaker 1: you know, by happenstance, like it was a concerted effort.
- 9:19Speaker 1: It may have had a low probability, but it was
- 9:21Speaker 1: still a concerted effort. And yeah, they've just really kind
- 9:23Speaker 1: of worked themselves into you know what I put them into,
- 9:28Speaker 1: and I don't feel this way about them, like this
- 9:30Speaker 1: team am about to say. And I know you watch
- 9:32Speaker 1: a little bit of soccer. For the years that Real
- 9:35Speaker 1: Madrid has won all these Champions League titles, so many
- 9:39Speaker 1: of the years, I would at the end of the
- 9:40Speaker 1: year I was like, I don't think Real Madrid's like
- 9:43Speaker 1: the best team. They would have all these ridiculous like
- 9:46Speaker 1: penalties that were called or these even last year against
- 9:49Speaker 1: Bayern Munich where Noyer like boots it off his own
- 9:53Speaker 1: foot and they score, and then what happens with Mueller
- 9:55Speaker 1: later in the game, Like there were all these things
- 9:57Speaker 1: where it just continuously like was fall in their favor
- 10:00Speaker 1: and all these ridiculous things were happening, and but at
- 10:03Speaker 1: the end of the day, I was like, well, there
- 10:04Speaker 1: are a really good team, they're well coached, and they
- 10:06Speaker 1: have like really good players, So I guess that kind
- 10:08Speaker 1: of falls in their favor. Casey, I don't think. I
- 10:10Speaker 1: think this year's iteration is the closest to that, And
- 10:13Speaker 1: I think I think people are just so frustrated because
- 10:19Speaker 1: of where they are from, like a kind of dynasty
- 10:21Speaker 1: quote on quote perspective. But it does just seem, yeah,
- 10:24Speaker 1: very unimpressive, and I think unless you really look under
- 10:27Speaker 1: the hood, it looks like they're just kind of, I
- 10:30Speaker 1: don't know, fall in like into these wins rather than
- 10:33Speaker 1: kind of creating them themselves. No, I fully get that,
- 10:37Speaker 1: especially from the outside, if like I remove myself from
- 10:39Speaker 1: like my fandom. There's there's a handful of games that
- 10:42Speaker 1: you can come out here and say, like, hey, like
- 10:44Speaker 1: that there was some luck you're involved or how do
- 10:46Speaker 1: you win that game? No other teams getting to that
- 10:48Speaker 1: getting that luck and making that play whatever it may be,
- 10:51Speaker 1: And like, I think you kind of nailed it right,
- 10:52Speaker 1: Like luck obviously plays a role in anything. Like all
- 10:55Speaker 1: these guys, they're professional athletes, are the best players out
- 10:57Speaker 1: there there's still gonna be a little bit of luck
- 10:59Speaker 1: on the which way the all bounces off a tip,
- 11:01Speaker 1: does a player catch, does he lose it in the sun,
- 11:03Speaker 1: Like any of this stuff plays a little bit of luck.
- 11:05Speaker 1: The Chiefs are really good though.
- 11:07Speaker 3: It putting themselves in the right spot to get lucky.
- 11:11Speaker 3: They are constantly in the right spot. And like this year,
- 11:14Speaker 3: I do think that what they're doing this season seems
- 11:17Speaker 3: even more so than last year year's past, where they
- 11:20Speaker 3: know that's who they are. They know it's gonna be
- 11:22Speaker 3: a lot of close games, but they know they have
- 11:23Speaker 3: to win another ways. Last year was about them figuring
- 11:26Speaker 3: that out right. Last year they were struggling all year long.
- 11:28Speaker 3: Patrick Mahome was trying to make all these plays happen,
- 11:31Speaker 3: and like realizing, Okay, I have to trust my defense.
- 11:34Speaker 3: This year, the defense is going to have to win
- 11:36Speaker 3: some games. They know that this year. They came into
- 11:38Speaker 3: this year saying, Hey, our offense is gonna go through
- 11:41Speaker 3: some ups and downs. We're gonna have to make plays
- 11:43Speaker 3: on the other side of the ball, and that's okay.
- 11:45Speaker 3: We're gonna have to do this to win and that's okay.
- 11:47Speaker 3: And I think they've just fully embraced. It really doesn't
- 11:50Speaker 3: matter what it looks like. Put ourselves in positions the
- 11:53Speaker 3: game will be close at the end, and we trust
- 11:55Speaker 3: ourselves to make the play. I almost consider it kind
- 11:58Speaker 3: of like Tiger Woods hey Day and Tiger Wood's prime.
- 12:02Speaker 3: No golfer one to see him on Sunday in their group,
- 12:04Speaker 3: but nobody wanted Tiger Woods, even if they were in
- 12:07Speaker 3: the lead. Nobody wanted Tiger Woods to be in their
- 12:09Speaker 3: group wearing that red polo on a Sunday. It wasn't
- 12:12Speaker 3: even that he played amazing on Sundays. It was that
- 12:15Speaker 3: everybody else just kind of started to play worse, and
- 12:17Speaker 3: he did just enough. There was a stretch of time
- 12:20Speaker 3: where that was every every single major Right. That's kind
- 12:23Speaker 3: of what the Chiefs are like right now. You're in
- 12:25Speaker 3: an important game against them. It's gonna be close and not.
- 12:27Speaker 3: Fourth quarter rolls around and all of a sudden, the
- 12:30Speaker 3: Chiefs are hanging in there. You don't know who's gonna
- 12:32Speaker 3: do it, cause it's a team game, but someone's gonna
- 12:34Speaker 3: make a play and force you to next And are
- 12:36Speaker 3: you ready for that moment or not?
- 12:38Speaker 1: We're often than not right now. Teams aren't teams.
- 12:40Speaker 3: Haven't been for the past half decade now. It's just
- 12:42Speaker 3: because that's you know, it's kind of they hit that
- 12:44Speaker 3: point right now where it's a little nerve racking to
- 12:47Speaker 3: go up against them in a tight game down the stretch.
- 12:49Speaker 1: Yes, and I so I love that point. I love
- 12:52Speaker 1: this comment here that echoes that it seems to be.
- 12:55Speaker 1: It seems that to beat this Chiefs team, you have
- 12:57Speaker 1: to lead by two plus scorers and keep that lead.
- 13:00Speaker 1: If it's a one score game, the Chiefs will find
- 13:01Speaker 1: a way to win. That's literally like where I'm at.
- 13:05Speaker 1: If it's if it's in the fourth quarter and it's
- 13:08Speaker 1: you know, the Chiefs are down by three or down
- 13:10Speaker 1: by a touchdown, I'm literally like I've seen this movie.
- 13:13Speaker 1: I know how it ends. I don't care who they're playing,
- 13:15Speaker 1: especially if they're playing someone in the AFC West, like
- 13:18Speaker 1: I know the Raiders like got them last year around
- 13:20Speaker 1: Christmas time. But like every Chargers game, every Broncos game,
- 13:24Speaker 1: if it's like, oh, they're down you know, like twenty
- 13:27Speaker 1: you know, twenty seven, twenty one in the fourth, I'm like,
- 13:30Speaker 1: the Chiefs are gonna win. I've seen this a million times.
- 13:31Speaker 1: I just know it's gonna happen. And so I like
- 13:34Speaker 1: that comment and how pair it in with what you
- 13:36Speaker 1: were saying. I like this other one too, that said
- 13:39Speaker 1: luck is when preparation meets opportunity, And I think that
- 13:42Speaker 1: is such a spot on definition of it, because again,
- 13:45Speaker 1: you have to kind of put yourself in that position
- 13:48Speaker 1: to be benefiting from that look or even just the
- 13:50Speaker 1: idea of like keeping everything so close so that if
- 13:53Speaker 1: the ball does bounce your way, you're able to take
- 13:56Speaker 1: advantage of it. It's not like, well, we're down by twenty,
- 13:58Speaker 1: so who cares if we block that kick, or who
- 13:59Speaker 1: cares we got this interception. We're down twenty and it
- 14:02Speaker 1: doesn't matter. And yeah, it just feels like, oh, it
- 14:06Speaker 1: just feels like this inevitable wave that if the game
- 14:10Speaker 1: is close in the fourth quarter, the Chiefs are going
- 14:12Speaker 1: to find a way to win. And what I really
- 14:14Speaker 1: liked that you said, like this year. Last year it
- 14:17Speaker 1: was and you know, people were blowing it up. Mahomes
- 14:20Speaker 1: is upset because guys are dropping balls. He's frustrated at
- 14:23Speaker 1: the end of the games. He's saying things and pressers
- 14:25Speaker 1: and complaining about different things. We saw it after the
- 14:28Speaker 1: Bills game in the regular season he's complaining about them
- 14:30Speaker 1: calling you know, the tony you know, off sides to
- 14:33Speaker 1: start the play on that touchdown to YadA YadA. This year,
- 14:37Speaker 1: even when things aren't clicking for the offense, it definitely
- 14:39Speaker 1: seems more like it's okay, this is kind of part
- 14:42Speaker 1: for the course. This is who we are right now.
- 14:44Speaker 1: Let's lean on the defense. See what happens. We can
- 14:47Speaker 1: pull it out in the fourth if we need to.
- 14:49Speaker 1: We'll get some run, we'll get some completion. Maybe that
- 14:51Speaker 1: mindset changes a little bit the more DeAndre Hopkins, you know,
- 14:54Speaker 1: becomes incorporated into the offense and they move forward and
- 14:56Speaker 1: when they get a little healthier on that side of
- 14:58Speaker 1: the ball as well. But yeah, it it just seems
- 15:00Speaker 1: kind of like to your point that they're like, no,
- 15:03Speaker 1: like this is this is who we are. We live
- 15:06Speaker 1: in it, we accept it. We're comfortable playing in these
- 15:09Speaker 1: type of high pressure games and scenarios and we'll just
- 15:12Speaker 1: ride with it and keep winning. And that's even more frustrating.
- 15:16Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, yeah, they're fully comfortable playing there right now,
- 15:19Speaker 3: and like there's still some frustrations and I think it
- 15:21Speaker 3: comes up, you know, it comes out every now and then,
- 15:23Speaker 3: But like it's been nothing like last year. You could
- 15:25Speaker 3: see it on mahomes face. Last year you could see
- 15:27Speaker 3: it on other offensive players. There was frustration and it
- 15:30Speaker 3: I know the blow up happened because the refs, like
- 15:32Speaker 3: he was mad at the refs and stuff like that
- 15:33Speaker 3: in that Bill's game, But it was really I can't
- 15:36Speaker 3: I can't explain to you guys how mad Patrick Mahomes
- 15:38Speaker 3: was behind the scenes and it was not refs. It
- 15:40Speaker 3: was the team around him that was the issue.
- 15:43Speaker 1: And it just he just.
- 15:44Speaker 3: Exploded in that moment because it was a big moment
- 15:46Speaker 3: and it was just such a ridiculous penalty that I
- 15:49Speaker 3: think everything just kind of came out all at once
- 15:51Speaker 3: and it was, yeah, it wasn't what you should have done,
- 15:53Speaker 3: and like I think, you know, him and Josh probably
- 15:55Speaker 3: talked about it because that was like the way that
- 15:56Speaker 3: went down wasn't great, Like it wasn't about anything in
- 15:59Speaker 3: the game other than his own team doing absolutely silly.
- 16:02Speaker 1: And I have been building like week over week over week,
- 16:05Speaker 1: he was just waiting for like that final little drop
- 16:08Speaker 1: in the bucket to be.
- 16:09Speaker 3: Like just like right right, and that's what and so
- 16:13Speaker 3: like yeah, that and that's not there this year like
- 16:14Speaker 3: there's times where he's been frustrated this year. There's times
- 16:17Speaker 3: where he's you know, not played his best because of
- 16:19Speaker 3: stuff that's been around him. And it's not like he's
- 16:21Speaker 3: been perfect this year either, don't get me wrong, but
- 16:24Speaker 3: like it's been frustrating I think this year for but
- 16:26Speaker 3: not the same way. It hasn't been that point where
- 16:28Speaker 3: things are boiling over. I think they just came in
- 16:30Speaker 3: with a different mindset to this year. They're like, Hey,
- 16:32Speaker 3: things are gonna be tough, and that's okay. We are
- 16:35Speaker 3: going to embrace it. We are gonna play in the muck.
- 16:37Speaker 3: We are gonna play this dirty, sloppy game, but we
- 16:41Speaker 3: will win it because that's who we are. And like that,
- 16:44Speaker 3: they're okay with that. They don't need they don't need
- 16:46Speaker 3: to be the Baltimore Ravens lighting every team up every
- 16:49Speaker 3: regular season week, unloading their entire playbook to look really good,
- 16:53Speaker 3: and then get to the playoffs and be like, oh,
- 16:54Speaker 3: we might not have anything left. That is not Andy Reid's.
- 16:57Speaker 3: That is not Andy Reid at all. He wants to
- 16:59Speaker 3: keep as much he could win every single game three nothing.
- 17:01Speaker 3: Andy Reid win to every single game three nothing. He
- 17:03Speaker 3: doesn't care, and the Chiefs, I just think it fully
- 17:06Speaker 3: embraced that this season, So we will see what keeps
- 17:09Speaker 3: changing as they go.
- 17:10Speaker 1: Like I think, you know, they are.
- 17:11Speaker 3: Statistically one of the weak or nine to zero teams
- 17:13Speaker 3: of all time, but guess what, they're still nine to zero,
- 17:15Speaker 3: and like that's gonna change once they get to the
- 17:17Speaker 3: playoffs and they're getting not close. But like the ability
- 17:20Speaker 3: to have a one or two seed kind of locked
- 17:22Speaker 3: up before you.
- 17:23Speaker 1: Get to the very end of the season isn't that far.
- 17:25Speaker 3: Off of the horizon for them if they obviously keep
- 17:27Speaker 3: winning and this is a big week for that. So hey,
- 17:30Speaker 3: they're just playing that playoff game right now and they
- 17:32Speaker 3: don't care how they get there.
- 17:34Speaker 1: That's fair. Yeah, And their schedule is a bit weak
- 17:35Speaker 1: down the stretch, like you could see them. I find
- 17:38Speaker 1: it hard looking at their schedule and finding like three
- 17:42Speaker 1: losses like it, especially if they beat the Bills this week,
- 17:46Speaker 1: Like then you're really banking on somebody from the AFC
- 17:48Speaker 1: West or multiple AFC West teams pulling one out, the
- 17:52Speaker 1: Texans pulling one out, which is tough.
- 17:54Speaker 3: One, but you're kind of you might be if you
- 17:55Speaker 3: beat the Bills, if you're the Chiefs. I have done
- 17:57Speaker 3: the math, because you know why not I've done. They're
- 18:00Speaker 3: gonna have a lot of tie breakers at that point.
- 18:01Speaker 3: Like if you get to there, if you beat the
- 18:03Speaker 3: Bills and then you get you might have everything locked up.
- 18:05Speaker 3: And I mean, like one seed locked up by the
- 18:07Speaker 3: time you get to that Texans game, just because they
- 18:10Speaker 3: you know, if they don't have any loss, they obviously
- 18:11Speaker 3: have to keep winning. But like that's a lot of time.
- 18:13Speaker 3: They already have a good chunk of tiebreakers. They might
- 18:15Speaker 3: not need a tiebreaker over the Steelers who have a
- 18:17Speaker 3: little bit harder schedule, over the Texans down the stretch,
- 18:20Speaker 3: who have dropped subs. So like they're in a very
- 18:22Speaker 3: good spot. So this game does we're probably getting to eventually.
- 18:25Speaker 3: This game I think means something to the Chiefs from
- 18:27Speaker 3: that perspective. It really gives them a stranglehole on the
- 18:29Speaker 3: one seed. But I also don't think you know, they
- 18:32Speaker 3: are going to lose sleep if they drop this game.
- 18:34Speaker 3: Now they don't want to win, just like they're not
- 18:36Speaker 3: gonna lose sleep if they lose to a team, any team.
- 18:37Speaker 1: In the regular season.
- 18:39Speaker 3: But I do think this one might have a little
- 18:40Speaker 3: bit more juice to it for HM than year's past,
- 18:42Speaker 3: because like this would really put them in a huge
- 18:44Speaker 3: position down the stretch to just lock up that one
- 18:46Speaker 3: seed pretty early and let you know, some older guys
- 18:48Speaker 3: like Travis Kelce get some rest.
- 18:50Speaker 1: That's a super good point. Like if they beat the Bills,
- 18:52Speaker 1: you're up three in the lost column and the Bills
- 18:55Speaker 1: still have to play Detroit in San Francisco and have
- 18:59Speaker 1: a or schedule down that stretch and you're sitting there. Yeah,
- 19:02Speaker 1: all three in the lost column. I love that one
- 19:04Speaker 1: last little piece. You know, you mentioned it, and a
- 19:06Speaker 1: couple of people mentioned it in the comments. I was
- 19:08Speaker 1: going to mention it later, but you know, you hit
- 19:10Speaker 1: it now in some of the comments, uh said it.
- 19:13Speaker 1: Steve here with another one saying Andy has a menu
- 19:15Speaker 1: of plays. Oh, that's not the one I want. It's
- 19:17Speaker 1: not the one I want to And where is it?
- 19:19Speaker 1: Where is it? Where is it? Hold on, Ah, there
- 19:24Speaker 1: it is, Steve saying, I feel like in year six
- 19:26Speaker 1: of Mahomesh and Andy, people still don't understand that they
- 19:30Speaker 1: do the regular season, they build in things week to
- 19:32Speaker 1: week then implement in the playoffs. And he says, do
- 19:34Speaker 1: people not know this? And you referenced this, you know,
- 19:36Speaker 1: and we talked. We talked about it last year in
- 19:38Speaker 1: the regular season game a ton of like how much
- 19:41Speaker 1: that regular season game matters and may change things because
- 19:46Speaker 1: last year the Chiefs were in a spot where they
- 19:47Speaker 1: needed at that time to get that win against the Bills,
- 19:50Speaker 1: and we talked about, you know what Andy Reid kind
- 19:53Speaker 1: of empty the chamber a little bit in order to
- 19:56Speaker 1: get that win, or would he stay a little more vanilla,
- 19:59Speaker 1: kind of keeps some things in the back pocket because
- 20:00Speaker 1: traditionally he is like, like you said, like we're not
- 20:04Speaker 1: putting everything on tape in the regular season. We're keeping
- 20:06Speaker 1: some stuff to ourselves. And I think Spags is an
- 20:08Speaker 1: even bigger example of that, who just turned. He's a
- 20:12Speaker 1: good coach Jenner in general, but come playoff time, he's
- 20:15Speaker 1: just a mad man with what he's calling and what
- 20:17Speaker 1: he's doing and how he's getting to stuff. And I
- 20:19Speaker 1: think there is something to be said for that of like, no,
- 20:21Speaker 1: we're keeping our best stuff here in our back pocket
- 20:25Speaker 1: for now, and when we have to pull it out
- 20:26Speaker 1: come playoff time, we will. But it's such a good
- 20:29Speaker 1: point because you have so many teams that, you know,
- 20:32Speaker 1: shoot everything in September or October, and then come November
- 20:36Speaker 1: and December, they're scuffling, and it's like, yeah, because you
- 20:38Speaker 1: put your whole menu out on tape in your first
- 20:41Speaker 1: three weeks and you haven't done anything different. Everybody knows
- 20:44Speaker 1: who you are even before they get the full regular
- 20:46Speaker 1: season sample size. And the Chiefs I think, are so
- 20:48Speaker 1: good at that of finding ways to win and even
- 20:52Speaker 1: if they don't being comfortable enough with who they are
- 20:55Speaker 1: to be like, it's fine when we play him again
- 20:58Speaker 1: or once we get to this, we know we got
- 21:00Speaker 1: them with a B and C and we didn't show
- 21:02Speaker 1: it in this game. They want to win. They're not
- 21:04Speaker 1: sitting there being like, no, we don't care, but they
- 21:06Speaker 1: are keeping some stuff close to the vest. And you
- 21:08Speaker 1: see it year after year, time and time again.
- 21:12Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's it's that And a lot of teams
- 21:14Speaker 3: are gonna do that right for I'm not saying nobody
- 21:16Speaker 3: else like Andy Reid is very much like known for
- 21:18Speaker 3: doing this, and I think it's only been more evident
- 21:20Speaker 3: with the Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes because like, eventially, talent
- 21:24Speaker 3: just does kind of win out sometimes in the NFL.
- 21:26Speaker 1: Eventually your talent is just better so you win.
- 21:28Speaker 3: So if I don't have to show everything and my
- 21:30Speaker 3: talent can win out, why not. And if we lose
- 21:33Speaker 3: two to three games in the process, but we get
- 21:35Speaker 3: to the playoffs without showing everything, that's fine. And so
- 21:38Speaker 3: like Chiefs in the regular season, very good football team, right,
- 21:40Speaker 3: like one of the best NFL if not, you know,
- 21:42Speaker 3: but you get them single game game plans. Like when
- 21:45Speaker 3: we're talking single game game plans, both on both sides
- 21:47Speaker 3: of the ball. Ye, Kyle Shanahan might be the best
- 21:50Speaker 3: offensive mine going in football or whichever. You know, Shanahan, Tree,
- 21:53Speaker 3: you got, anybody wants to pick right now, I'm not
- 21:55Speaker 3: gonna argue Ben Johnson, baby's up there. They might be
- 21:57Speaker 3: considered the best offensive mind like one week, I don't
- 22:00Speaker 3: know for a specific game plan. Know, anyone's still better
- 22:03Speaker 3: than Andy Reid, He's still for that one game, might
- 22:05Speaker 3: be the best on the offensive side. And really, I
- 22:08Speaker 3: have probably even more confidence that Steve Spagnol's better for
- 22:10Speaker 3: one game on the defensive.
- 22:11Speaker 1: Side than any of the offense.
- 22:13Speaker 3: Like there is nobody that schemes up just a random
- 22:16Speaker 3: one off game, and Steve Spagnola right now and it is,
- 22:18Speaker 3: You're right, he's wild with it.
- 22:20Speaker 1: You just don't know what it's gonna be.
- 22:21Speaker 3: So you get to the playoffs, and like for the
- 22:24Speaker 3: Bills last year, where they have to like they need
- 22:26Speaker 3: to win every game down the stretch, they kind of
- 22:28Speaker 3: do have to show all their cards, or you get
- 22:29Speaker 3: the Ravens who like to show all their cards and
- 22:31Speaker 3: dominate teams. You get to the playoffs and SPAC is like, oh, well, here,
- 22:35Speaker 3: here's this giant roll of decks menu I have of
- 22:37Speaker 3: things they like to do. Here's all these different ways
- 22:39Speaker 3: I want to counter stuff I know that they like.
- 22:41Speaker 3: And so I really do think the Chiefs rely on
- 22:43Speaker 3: just getting their off talent and you know, good general
- 22:46Speaker 3: football coaching and then those single game game plans, those
- 22:49Speaker 3: one and done game the scripts come out and it's
- 22:51Speaker 3: just like, oh, this team is entirely different than what
- 22:54Speaker 3: we just saw for seventeen weeks and we got to
- 22:56Speaker 3: figure out live how to react to that. And that's
- 22:58Speaker 3: really tough to do.
- 23:00Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's that's such a good call. Like that
- 23:02Speaker 1: was one game like game seven moments like you know,
- 23:06Speaker 1: like oh no, like who you're going against like Reid
- 23:08Speaker 1: and Spags and yeah, to your point, like I would
- 23:10Speaker 1: kind of argue Spags might even be better, and it's
- 23:12Speaker 1: the fact that like they're on that's such a huge
- 23:14Speaker 1: component tune. We talked about it the last time, Like
- 23:17Speaker 1: they each can just run an entire side of the ball.
- 23:21Speaker 1: Like my joke is always like I imagine like Andy
- 23:24Speaker 1: Reid just walks down the hall and like pokes his
- 23:26Speaker 1: head into the defensive room. He's like, hey, Steve, you
- 23:28Speaker 1: good and he's like yeah, and he's like all right, cool,
- 23:29Speaker 1: thanks and just keeps on walking. Like re just gets
- 23:32Speaker 1: to focus on the offense. Spags gets to run the yes,
- 23:35Speaker 1: like and you even get you know, similarly with with
- 23:39Speaker 1: Luanna Rumo in Cincinnati, like you've got this dude who
- 23:42Speaker 1: he's also very good like one game, like defensive mind,
- 23:45Speaker 1: like so great at that, tell me about it? You
- 23:47Speaker 1: he yeah, you know, I know that too. You could
- 23:50Speaker 1: just let him run that side and like you don't
- 23:52Speaker 1: have to worry about it if you're a head coach
- 23:53Speaker 1: on more offensive minded or offensive first coach. And then
- 23:56Speaker 1: same thing for Spags, like he knows what he has
- 23:58Speaker 1: on the other side and how oh how much of
- 24:00Speaker 1: a symbiotic relationship they have and how good they are individually,
- 24:04Speaker 1: but then how that fits together? Man, Yeah, it's just
- 24:07Speaker 1: a it's a crazy formula they've developed there and a
- 24:10Speaker 1: process and a routine and rhythm and yeah, just watching
- 24:13Speaker 1: them kind of year after year, not coast in the
- 24:16Speaker 1: regular season, but just be like, yeah, no, we're good.
- 24:19Speaker 1: Everything will be fine come playoff time, and you just yeah,
- 24:21Speaker 1: you know, like and especially after last year with like,
- 24:24Speaker 1: I feel like the last thing I don't, I don't
- 24:26Speaker 1: I don't know if this existed in their minds, but
- 24:29Speaker 1: the last thing that people were clinging to was like, well,
- 24:32Speaker 1: they get to play in Kansas City every year. Imagine
- 24:34Speaker 1: what happens if they don't get to play in Kansas City.
- 24:36Speaker 1: And then they were like, okay, we'll go on the
- 24:38Speaker 1: road in the division round and the AFC Championship will
- 24:40Speaker 1: kind of see what happens there. Even even man, you
- 24:42Speaker 1: don't think it back to the AFC Championship game, even
- 24:44Speaker 1: like Zay Flowers falling down short and then the ball
- 24:48Speaker 1: gets punched out by Sneed like of course, Like there's
- 24:50Speaker 1: just that they just seem to make those plays with regularity.
- 24:53Speaker 1: And that's on top of having this good one off,
- 24:56Speaker 1: single game game plan on both sides of the ball. Yeah. Man,
- 25:00Speaker 1: they put themselves in that position year after year, week
- 25:02Speaker 1: after we it's got to be so frustrating for oh man,
- 25:06Speaker 1: I see yeah, man, oh good times, good times. Anything else?
- 25:10Speaker 1: Should we dive into it?
- 25:11Speaker 3: No? I think we dive into it, you know. I
- 25:13Speaker 3: think that's how That's a pretty good insro to what
- 25:14Speaker 3: the Chiefs are right now, because again, it's not always
- 25:16Speaker 3: gonna look great, but like I think we I think
- 25:18Speaker 3: we kind of explain through a little bit of the
- 25:19Speaker 3: process and why, Like, yeah, it might look a little
- 25:22Speaker 3: fools gold, but calling it fools gold might actually be
- 25:24Speaker 3: the ultimate trick.
- 25:25Speaker 1: Like whence the games matter now?
- 25:27Speaker 3: Not that this game doesn't matter, I don't mean that,
- 25:29Speaker 3: but like later on, this is everything that these two
- 25:31Speaker 3: teams are doing is geared towards the playoffs. Like you's
- 25:34Speaker 3: got to be honest about that. So everything from now
- 25:36Speaker 3: un till then changes. Right now, things are gonna look
- 25:39Speaker 3: one way, they'll look different later for both squads, and
- 25:41Speaker 3: I just think that, you know, the Chiefs really do
- 25:43Speaker 3: lean into that. So like that's why some of the
- 25:45Speaker 3: Week nine and oh stuff doesn't ring home for Chiefs
- 25:48Speaker 3: fans because we're like we know they're gonna be better
- 25:50Speaker 3: when it matters more later on. It's like call them
- 25:53Speaker 3: the weakest undefeated team, Like is it like doesn't hurt
- 25:55Speaker 3: our feelings? Like they're undefeated and they're gonna get better,
- 25:58Speaker 3: So like, okay.
- 25:59Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly. And like if they were nine and
- 26:01Speaker 1: oh or seven and two or six and three, you
- 26:03Speaker 1: know you're still gonna get better chief stuff come playoff time.
- 26:06Speaker 1: So it bounces out. I think that's another little added
- 26:09Speaker 1: layer that makes this game so interesting because they tend
- 26:13Speaker 1: to see each other down the stretch again and say,
- 26:16Speaker 1: say the Bills do win this game, you're in good
- 26:19Speaker 1: shape to be either the one or the two, which
- 26:21Speaker 1: means you're probably not seeing Kansas City until the AFC Championship.
- 26:24Speaker 1: And so there's so much of like to beat the Chiefs.
- 26:28Speaker 1: How much do you have to unload to beat them
- 26:30Speaker 1: in the regular season? But then how much does that
- 26:32Speaker 1: hurt you for the second game in the playoffs in
- 26:35Speaker 1: terms of showing your hand too much? And like, once
- 26:37Speaker 1: you start having that conversation as a football team, I
- 26:41Speaker 1: don't want to say you're dead in the water, but
- 26:42Speaker 1: like it's almost like you're psyching yourself with the mental
- 26:44Speaker 1: side of it, because it's like, oh shit, should I
- 26:47Speaker 1: call this, Should I put it in the game plan,
- 26:49Speaker 1: or should okay, I called it. Now you're in the
- 26:50Speaker 1: playoff game, you're like, oh, do they know that we
- 26:53Speaker 1: know that, they know what we know what we called
- 26:56Speaker 1: last time? Are they snuffing that? It's just here to
- 26:58Speaker 1: go round and round? And then the next you know
- 27:00Speaker 1: you've lost and you're kind of sitting in the same
- 27:02Speaker 1: spot like you were the year before. Man, I really
- 27:04Speaker 1: do think Bill's versus Chiefs and how the chiefs operate
- 27:06Speaker 1: in general is such a good like example of the
- 27:09Speaker 1: chess match of football and how mental it is, and
- 27:12Speaker 1: how much that strategizing goes into what pieces you move,
- 27:17Speaker 1: when you move them, how you move them, and then
- 27:20Speaker 1: how it connects down the road. Like you really you
- 27:22Speaker 1: have to call stuff to try and win in that moment,
- 27:25Speaker 1: but then also make sure you're not hurting yourself in
- 27:28Speaker 1: the future down the road. You don't want to win
- 27:30Speaker 1: the battle and then lose the war if there is
- 27:32Speaker 1: a war coming down the pike in the playoffs. A man,
- 27:34Speaker 1: it's just good times. I'm pumped to have this conversation.
- 27:37Speaker 1: All right, let's I'm gonna switch the banner. It's this
- 27:40Speaker 1: critical elements that will decide Bill's versus Chiefs, like I
- 27:42Speaker 1: mentioned in the intro. But in case you folks didn't
- 27:44Speaker 1: see that, for those of you playing at home, myself
- 27:46Speaker 1: and Matt will be going through our top three matchup
- 27:49Speaker 1: pieces that we think will decide Bills versus Chiefs. It
- 27:52Speaker 1: could be as large scale or as granular as possible.
- 27:55Speaker 1: It could be one specific player, one player versus another,
- 27:57Speaker 1: and entire side of the ball, anything in every thing
- 28:00Speaker 1: is up for grabs. Scheme, structured players, position groups, anything
- 28:04Speaker 1: and everything where each point to alternate. Give our answers
- 28:09Speaker 1: that you are the guests. You can go first. I
- 28:10Speaker 1: don't know if you have them ranked in terms of importance.
- 28:13Speaker 1: If you do, feel free to say which one or
- 28:15Speaker 1: start however you free. You you choose to do something,
- 28:19Speaker 1: the floor is yours, all right.
- 28:21Speaker 3: So you had said that you did a little something
- 28:23Speaker 3: different this year and some of your shows and stuff
- 28:25Speaker 3: like that, you know, getting a little bit more into
- 28:27Speaker 3: some film room stuff.
- 28:28Speaker 1: And not just all this.
- 28:29Speaker 3: So I did come just a little bit different mindset
- 28:32Speaker 3: that normally normally have a bunch of stats, and I
- 28:34Speaker 3: really detail it down I'm not that we can't get
- 28:36Speaker 3: into that, but I kind of go to a little
- 28:37Speaker 3: bit more vibe with these right now because I know
- 28:39Speaker 3: this matches later and this Chief seems really hard to
- 28:42Speaker 3: like get nailed down right now. But the biggest thing,
- 28:46Speaker 3: how healthy is juan Ye Morris, because if Kingsley super
- 28:49Speaker 3: MATEA has to play, this game will get ugly, and
- 28:52Speaker 3: it will get ugly fast.
- 28:53Speaker 1: For the Chief's offense.
- 28:54Speaker 3: It has been unplayable when he is out there. The
- 28:56Speaker 3: offense not only can it not function the way they
- 28:59Speaker 3: want it to, it can't even function in the dysfunctional
- 29:01Speaker 3: way they have to. Because it's been not bad, he
- 29:04Speaker 3: just has not been playable when he his last two
- 29:07Speaker 3: games that he has played significant snaps and like you know,
- 29:10Speaker 3: you can it sounds like Andy Reid said, Wanniya Morris
- 29:12Speaker 3: is going to be healthy enough and is expected to
- 29:14Speaker 3: play for this game, But you never know. Andy's a
- 29:17Speaker 3: little coy with his injuries a lot of times. And
- 29:19Speaker 3: I had seen enough now to know that at that
- 29:21Speaker 3: left tackle spot, if Wania Morris is significantly hampered in
- 29:24Speaker 3: his movement or if Kingsley has to play, that smells
- 29:27Speaker 3: really bad news for the Chiefs. And I don't know
- 29:30Speaker 3: if they will have the answer ready to get by
- 29:32Speaker 3: with that right now, given what we just saw the
- 29:35Speaker 3: past week.
- 29:38Speaker 1: How worried so with that right and the potentially of
- 29:43Speaker 1: like Kingsley playing for Morris, how much of that is
- 29:46Speaker 1: just general worry based on his play versus specific worry
- 29:51Speaker 1: with what you've seen from the bills edges or what
- 29:53Speaker 1: you think the Bill's edges are capable of.
- 29:56Speaker 3: It's more specific to Kingsley's play so far than it
- 30:00Speaker 3: is the Bills. However, I think the Bills have done
- 30:03Speaker 3: a very good job against the Chiefs of understanding how
- 30:05Speaker 3: to rush them. They have done a good job of
- 30:07Speaker 3: learning how learning how to mostly not fully, but mostly
- 30:11Speaker 3: contain Patrick Mahomes, how to throw the right kind of
- 30:13Speaker 3: stunts that consist of those long loopers from the backside
- 30:17Speaker 3: coming out and around to kind of surprise the Chiefs
- 30:19Speaker 3: tackles because they're bad at picking on those and stuff
- 30:21Speaker 3: they bad at picking those up. So it's a combination,
- 30:24Speaker 3: a little of a little b but it's mostly just
- 30:26Speaker 3: his play. Like I think the Bills have enough guys
- 30:28Speaker 3: that they can throw out there over and over again
- 30:30Speaker 3: at against him to where he's always going to feel threatened.
- 30:33Speaker 3: He's never going to be able to feel comfortable and like, hey,
- 30:36Speaker 3: this matchup's okay for me because we haven't really seen
- 30:39Speaker 3: that for a while from him. So yeah, it's a
- 30:41Speaker 3: little matchup specific, but it's more so like they just
- 30:44Speaker 3: need him not to play to really have a chance
- 30:47Speaker 3: first a quality defense at this point in time.
- 30:51Speaker 1: I like that point from in general, but especially from
- 30:54Speaker 1: the perspective of like one of the areas that worries
- 30:57Speaker 1: me consistently about this Bills team is the front both
- 31:01Speaker 1: from a run defense perspective, but also from just like
- 31:03Speaker 1: a pressure perspective. We know, we know what the Bills
- 31:05Speaker 1: are at this point, like four down rush for play
- 31:08Speaker 1: covers behind it, you're not really gonna blitz. If you
- 31:10Speaker 1: do get a blitz, it'll be like a simulated or
- 31:12Speaker 1: a creeper. Maybe that changes once Matt Milano comes back,
- 31:15Speaker 1: if you get some five and six man stuff. They
- 31:16Speaker 1: were dialing up some really good five man stuff with
- 31:19Speaker 1: him and Bernard last year before Milana went down. But
- 31:23Speaker 1: you look at this Bills team right now. They have
- 31:25Speaker 1: a pressure rate of thirty two point four on the year,
- 31:28Speaker 1: which is twenty second And I look at Morris who's
- 31:31Speaker 1: there at left tackle, or even if it's not him,
- 31:33Speaker 1: it's Kingsley. I always say Kingsley because I butcher his
- 31:35Speaker 1: last name all the time. I did it through the
- 31:36Speaker 1: draft process too. I was always like, oh, just Kingsley,
- 31:38Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, BYU left tackle? Yeah yeah. So whoever it is,
- 31:43Speaker 1: if he's in or Morris is in, you're going against
- 31:47Speaker 1: most likely aj A Panessa because Greg Russou rushes off
- 31:51Speaker 1: the right. Von Miller has been rushing off the right,
- 31:55Speaker 1: and so I wonder, like how much does that come
- 31:59Speaker 1: in because Kingsley has been vulnerable. We saw that right
- 32:02Speaker 1: from the jump from his first couple of starts, like
- 32:04Speaker 1: and you talked about it here as well, obviously, like
- 32:07Speaker 1: I wonder is there do we put Von to the
- 32:10Speaker 1: other side? Do we put group to the other side?
- 32:13Speaker 1: Because also within that the interior is not generating a
- 32:18Speaker 1: ton of pressure from a starting level with Ed and
- 32:20Speaker 1: Daikwon Jones, but even within the backups as well. And
- 32:23Speaker 1: then they're going out. They bring in Quentin Jefferson who
- 32:25Speaker 1: got released by the Browns. They bring in Jordan Phillips
- 32:27Speaker 1: who got up by the Cowboys. Both of them suit
- 32:30Speaker 1: up and play last week like that's and no disrespect
- 32:32Speaker 1: to them, but like that's that's where you're at. Like
- 32:35Speaker 1: they both suit it up as the second line of
- 32:37Speaker 1: like the second wave on the interior. That's where you're
- 32:40Speaker 1: at if you're the Bills right now, So you're not
- 32:43Speaker 1: getting a lot of pop from the inside, even off
- 32:46Speaker 1: the edge. Vaughn has shown a lot of flashes, but
- 32:49Speaker 1: you know, and I think he's at He's done well,
- 32:51Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people anticipated, but he's
- 32:53Speaker 1: not the game rerecord that he once was. I don't
- 32:54Speaker 1: think Rousseau is that as a pass rusher. A Javanessa, honestly,
- 32:59Speaker 1: flat is the most dominant reps. But it's very still
- 33:02Speaker 1: kind of like roller coaster and hit or miss, And
- 33:04Speaker 1: I wonder how much that, Like I wonder where the
- 33:07Speaker 1: pressure comes from this game if you're the Bills, because
- 33:10Speaker 1: the interior hasn't been consistent with it, and then the
- 33:13Speaker 1: Chief's interior is friggin Tuney and Humphrey and Smith, which
- 33:17Speaker 1: is a good interior. The weakness is the tackles, but
- 33:20Speaker 1: your strength isn't necessarily like you know, horses coming off
- 33:24Speaker 1: the edge. So I really do think it's almost kind
- 33:27Speaker 1: of like a you know, like the immovable object versus
- 33:30Speaker 1: a unsoppable force, like in a bad way though, and
- 33:32Speaker 1: seeing like HH loses first, and so I think that's
- 33:34Speaker 1: a really fun point.
- 33:35Speaker 3: So if it's Kingsley, I think the Bills, if I
- 33:38Speaker 3: were to be coaching them, I would put probably von
- 33:41Speaker 3: Miller over there, because his flashes are still of the speed,
- 33:46Speaker 3: the dip, the ability to just run around somebody, and
- 33:49Speaker 3: that is what is absolutely killed kings him. There's a
- 33:51Speaker 3: lot of things, but that's the biggest thing is guys
- 33:53Speaker 3: are getting pressure without even touching. He's not even touching them, right, Yeah,
- 33:57Speaker 3: they're not even They're not even able to touch him
- 33:59Speaker 3: coming He's not able touch guy's coming around. So von
- 34:00Speaker 3: Miller still has that speed, or whoever has the moja
- 34:02Speaker 3: juice would go that route. Maybe if the Chief's interior
- 34:06Speaker 3: offensive line is playing better, they can't protect it a
- 34:08Speaker 3: little bit. It's just I'm expecting Wannia Moore splay. I
- 34:11Speaker 3: want to be clear, I expect Mores to play. That's
- 34:13Speaker 3: what Andy Re told me this. This is my biggest
- 34:15Speaker 3: fear going into it, though, is that if Kingsley has
- 34:17Speaker 3: to play, I just don't have I don't know, if
- 34:20Speaker 3: I have the faith that they will have an answer
- 34:21Speaker 3: ready to go to the point of Like, you know,
- 34:25Speaker 3: the interior has been very good. Last week was probably
- 34:27Speaker 3: one of their worst weeks in a while, so I
- 34:29Speaker 3: would expect a rebound game. They've been over the years,
- 34:32Speaker 3: they have done a pretty good job when they do
- 34:33Speaker 3: have the don't have their best game. Those interior guys
- 34:36Speaker 3: in particular do bounce back pretty well in the past.
- 34:40Speaker 3: At Oliver's the type of rusher that gives Trey Smith
- 34:42Speaker 3: a little bit of issues.
- 34:43Speaker 1: One on one because he's a little bit quicker.
- 34:44Speaker 3: He's got the lateral agility like that does give Trey
- 34:46Speaker 3: Smith more trouble. But Tray Smith also shows up for
- 34:50Speaker 3: big games as well as any offensive lineman. It's like
- 34:52Speaker 3: he really does relish these matchups with the other like
- 34:55Speaker 3: premiere premium interior guys. So if he sees at Oliver
- 34:59Speaker 3: in that light, especially coming off of not the best game,
- 35:02Speaker 3: maybe he can continue to hold his own have one
- 35:04Speaker 3: of his better ones there and maybe you can get
- 35:06Speaker 3: by with you know, a lackluster left tackle, whether it's
- 35:09Speaker 3: a Hamper Morris or Kingsley, we will see.
- 35:12Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs, you know, pass.
- 35:13Speaker 3: Protection though, is something to watch in this game, because
- 35:15Speaker 3: if the Bills have the same success that the Broncos
- 35:17Speaker 3: did rush in the past, or it gets a lot
- 35:19Speaker 3: more difficult for the for the Chief's offense.
- 35:21Speaker 1: Yeah, I was surprised. I guess I shouldn't. I don't
- 35:23Speaker 1: know what is kind of stopping me from holistically buying
- 35:26Speaker 1: into the Broncos, but say maybe I I mean, well, yeah,
- 35:31Speaker 1: I started to a little bit, and then they got
- 35:32Speaker 1: completely housed by Baltimore and I was like, okay, there
- 35:34Speaker 1: it is. And then they came out against KC how
- 35:37Speaker 1: they did, and I was like, oh, do I need
- 35:38Speaker 1: to get back on here, and like I watched the
- 35:41Speaker 1: tape and I was like, oh, like especially with how
- 35:43Speaker 1: much like man coverage they were playing on third down
- 35:45Speaker 1: early and like everybody was locked up, and then what
- 35:47Speaker 1: you were getting up front from JFM and Alan and
- 35:50Speaker 1: like that whole crew, I was like, oh, like okay,
- 35:52Speaker 1: like maybe maybe this is a little a little real,
- 35:56Speaker 1: but yeah, I kind of like I like that opening point.
- 35:58Speaker 1: That's nice. I don't I always list mine and then
- 36:02Speaker 1: like based off of what the first one is from
- 36:04Speaker 1: my guests, I never know where to go, all right,
- 36:09Speaker 1: I'm just gonna start in order from mine. So this
- 36:11Speaker 1: first one, this one is a legitimate number one for me,
- 36:14Speaker 1: So I ordered them this time. Usually I just cheat
- 36:16Speaker 1: and I'm like, they're all equal. This one is legitimately
- 36:19Speaker 1: my first one. So I titled it who wins the
- 36:22Speaker 1: personnel matchups between the Bills offense and the Chiefs defense.
- 36:26Speaker 1: The foundation of the Bills offense despite having Josh Allen,
- 36:30Speaker 1: is the run game, and then from there or like
- 36:32Speaker 1: kind of tied into that, it's their ability to put
- 36:35Speaker 1: defenses into a bind by being able to run and
- 36:37Speaker 1: pass whether condensed or spread from multiple personnel groupings eleven, twelve, thirteen.
- 36:43Speaker 1: They can get some six offensive lineman sets work in
- 36:46Speaker 1: some play action, not enough. They need more play action.
- 36:49Speaker 1: I don't understand why they're not spamming the hell out
- 36:50Speaker 1: of play action like it. They need to be like
- 36:52Speaker 1: a lion's rate, like near forty percent. They need it.
- 36:55Speaker 1: They need it, They need it. Conversation for another time.
- 36:57Speaker 1: But this works for the Bills because they have play
- 37:00Speaker 1: a wide receiver and tight end that can live in
- 37:02Speaker 1: both worlds when it comes to the run. In the
- 37:04Speaker 1: past as blockers as pass catchers because of their mix
- 37:07Speaker 1: of athleticism and size, so at a basic level, they
- 37:11Speaker 1: can dictate to defenses. If you don't have the right
- 37:14Speaker 1: body types or skill sets, can your nickel fit the
- 37:16Speaker 1: run and also cover? If not, do you have a
- 37:19Speaker 1: third linebacker that can do that? If not, do you
- 37:21Speaker 1: have like a third safety or a big nickel that
- 37:23Speaker 1: can do that? And based on your answer, the Bills
- 37:25Speaker 1: press different buttons and pull different levers accordingly to attack
- 37:29Speaker 1: you with the Chiefs. However, just from a personnel standpoint,
- 37:33Speaker 1: forget spags and scheme and structure and all that. Just
- 37:36Speaker 1: from a personnel standpoint, the Chiefs defense can answer a
- 37:39Speaker 1: lot of those questions that the Bills offense likes to ask.
- 37:43Speaker 1: We have Trent McDuffie, who's got inside outside versatility. I
- 37:46Speaker 1: also love that he's been playing good on the outside
- 37:48Speaker 1: because so many people I was on McDuff McDuffie and
- 37:52Speaker 1: McCreary were two corners. I love that year, and I loved, love,
- 37:55Speaker 1: love McDuffie, and I still bemoaned like that he got
- 37:58Speaker 1: picked by the Chiefs and no suspect to elm. But
- 38:00Speaker 1: I just wanted McDuffie and people always would come back
- 38:03Speaker 1: and be like, yeah, but McDuffie's in the slot. The
- 38:05Speaker 1: Bills didn't need a slot, and I'm like, no, no, no, no, Casey,
- 38:08Speaker 1: put him in the slot. He can play outside. I
- 38:11Speaker 1: know he can play outside. I watched nine games of
- 38:13Speaker 1: his at Washington his final year and more from the
- 38:15Speaker 1: year before that dude can play outside. So I'm glad
- 38:18Speaker 1: that he's having some success outside there. But you start
- 38:20Speaker 1: with him McDuffie inside outside versatility, coverage plus run capability,
- 38:25Speaker 1: then you're comfortable working in three safety sets. If you're
- 38:29Speaker 1: the Chiefs with Kamari Connor playing that big nickel that
- 38:31Speaker 1: allows you to not be deficient in the run or
- 38:33Speaker 1: the pass. They'll also go with four safety sets and
- 38:36Speaker 1: put Jayden Hicks on the field and throw you for
- 38:39Speaker 1: a loop a little bit. Then you can also flex
- 38:41Speaker 1: different groupings at linebacker with Bolton, Tranquill and Chanal depending
- 38:45Speaker 1: on kind of what you want to do. And that's
- 38:47Speaker 1: not taking into account all the variations up front. Blitz packages,
- 38:51Speaker 1: third down packages. Hey, we're gonna take Shanal and put
- 38:54Speaker 1: him in at defensive tackle and put Chris Jones out
- 38:57Speaker 1: at edge, or we're going to cover up your center
- 38:59Speaker 1: with shanal and go fi and make you go man
- 39:01Speaker 1: and then drop out and do all this crazy stuff
- 39:03Speaker 1: that we like to do. The Chiefs just naturally, because
- 39:06Speaker 1: of their personnel and how they're built, they can play
- 39:09Speaker 1: personnel chess with the Bills and have good answers because
- 39:12Speaker 1: of how they're built. And again that's not taking into all,
- 39:15Speaker 1: you know, taking into account all the coverage and front
- 39:17Speaker 1: creativity SPAGS utilizes. So I'm very much looking for who
- 39:21Speaker 1: erasist who, who beats who, and the chain reactions that result.
- 39:26Speaker 1: Because the Bills have answers for whatever most defenses have.
- 39:30Speaker 1: The Chiefs have answers for what most offenses have, and
- 39:33Speaker 1: I'm interested to see kind of how that clashes. What
- 39:37Speaker 1: are the Bills lean into, What do the Chiefs lean
- 39:40Speaker 1: into are they come Because again just from a base,
- 39:42Speaker 1: if you want to be the Bills and be like,
- 39:43Speaker 1: oh we'll go twelve, I think the Chiefs are like, cool,
- 39:46Speaker 1: we'll just stay in nickel with Hamari Connor is our
- 39:49Speaker 1: nickel and Connor's probably going to beat up Dalton Kincaid
- 39:52Speaker 1: as a blocker. We think like, if I'm the Chiefs,
- 39:55Speaker 1: I think I have an advantage there against the Runs
- 39:57Speaker 1: so like I'm very interested to see, Like I think
- 39:59Speaker 1: that it's the starting point for that entire side of
- 40:02Speaker 1: the ball.
- 40:03Speaker 3: Yeah, the Chiefs this year in particular, have great answers
- 40:08Speaker 3: for dealing with the personnel issue that a lot of
- 40:11Speaker 3: the NFL is trying to get. Kind of like you're saying,
- 40:13Speaker 3: Jamari Connor's been their primary slot defender this year. McDuffie's
- 40:16Speaker 3: bounced inside and outside a little bit. Actually, the past
- 40:18Speaker 3: four games without Jalen Watson, he's been almost exclusively an
- 40:22Speaker 3: outside corner. And I think he can play outside corner
- 40:25Speaker 3: and he's still very good at it. But like, if
- 40:27Speaker 3: I want to really fuel your you know, fans, here,
- 40:29Speaker 3: he's been a little worse since he's been an outside
- 40:31Speaker 3: only corner versus like fifty to fifty, like he was
- 40:34Speaker 3: better than Here's the.
- 40:35Speaker 1: Point too, I mean, like he's primarily been in the
- 40:37Speaker 1: slot to start his career, and he was a freaking
- 40:39Speaker 1: All pro slot, So like I get, yeah, yeah, he
- 40:42Speaker 1: can do both. It's just yeah, he has this past time.
- 40:45Speaker 3: You're coming off probably his worst game as a pro
- 40:48Speaker 3: against the le Broncos, where Courtland Suton kind of got
- 40:50Speaker 3: him a few times.
- 40:51Speaker 1: But like so he's a good outside corner, like you're not.
- 40:52Speaker 3: You're never feeling bad about that, And I think there
- 40:54Speaker 3: might be some other reasons for that struggle we'll talk
- 40:57Speaker 3: about here in a minute. But personnel, Yeah, com is
- 41:00Speaker 3: great in the slot because he can play the run
- 41:02Speaker 3: or if you're trying to get him on a tight end,
- 41:05Speaker 3: not these locking down tight ends, but that's a good
- 41:08Speaker 3: matchup for him. He can play man coverage or the
- 41:10Speaker 3: match covers the case. He likes to play against tight
- 41:13Speaker 3: ends just fine. He gets in more trouble it gets
- 41:15Speaker 3: shiftier slot receivers, and if you're going twelve personnel, they
- 41:19Speaker 3: do a pretty good job of keeping it, limiting him
- 41:21Speaker 3: to not having to always be on those kind of guys,
- 41:23Speaker 3: the shiftier players that can lose him a little bit
- 41:26Speaker 3: in their route. So finding coverage good versus the run.
- 41:29Speaker 3: But the big difference this year. In the past, you
- 41:32Speaker 3: get Steve Spagnol to play bass coverage, you have a heyday.
- 41:36Speaker 1: That ain't the case this year. The Oshanal has been
- 41:39Speaker 1: so drn good this season.
- 41:42Speaker 3: When you get the Chiefs out there and to play
- 41:44Speaker 3: base defense, you're like, ah, we got this, because now
- 41:46Speaker 3: we can you know, we can go into the past
- 41:48Speaker 3: plays to play action stuff, and the Chiefs have had
- 41:50Speaker 3: enough good players all around to you know, make things
- 41:53Speaker 3: happen there. You know, Chanel's gotten a little better in coverage.
- 41:56Speaker 3: The safeties are playing well in coverage, like they can
- 41:58Speaker 3: handle a passing game out of base, but you've been
- 42:00Speaker 3: able to run on them and base coverage just because
- 42:02Speaker 3: they've done a really bad job of fitting ups very specifically,
- 42:05Speaker 3: and the Bills have done a great job of it,
- 42:07Speaker 3: just like insert runs, whether it's power, whether it's a
- 42:10Speaker 3: lead play with a full back, like they have done
- 42:12Speaker 3: a really bad job handling runs a fitting runs. When
- 42:15Speaker 3: the blockers are inserting a long line of scrimmage, that
- 42:18Speaker 3: doesn't matter when you have a linebacker that can beat
- 42:21Speaker 3: a guard at the point of contact and reset the
- 42:23Speaker 3: line of scrimmage back two yards. And that's what Leoshanal
- 42:25Speaker 3: has given them relatively consistently this year. He is just
- 42:28Speaker 3: destroying opponents run game when he's out there, so you
- 42:31Speaker 3: almost are better off keep trying to keep him off
- 42:35Speaker 3: the field. If you want to run the ball, you
- 42:36Speaker 3: are almost better off trying to run out a lighter
- 42:39Speaker 3: personnel so that it is Tamari Connor, who's still good
- 42:41Speaker 3: versus I mean, there's a reason the Chiefs are like
- 42:43Speaker 3: number one in the NFL against running back runs.
- 42:45Speaker 1: They're very good against the run.
- 42:46Speaker 3: Right now, it's just like, so, yeah, they do a
- 42:48Speaker 3: good job of handling personnel stuff, and a lot of
- 42:50Speaker 3: that is Leoshanell has been excellent when he's on the field,
- 42:53Speaker 3: and I don't think you can overstate how important that
- 42:56Speaker 3: has been for the rest of this defense to know
- 42:58Speaker 3: that that guy can essentially run like another defensive lineman.
- 43:02Speaker 1: His like career trajector, I should say trajectory, like his
- 43:07Speaker 1: career thus far. I like this tape so much coming
- 43:10Speaker 1: out in Wisconsin. He has some of the most like
- 43:12Speaker 1: dominant reps from a flashy perspective. But I was like, like,
- 43:15Speaker 1: how does he live in the NFL because he's kind
- 43:18Speaker 1: of like run down specific and you saw him just
- 43:21Speaker 1: little by little, like getting used in sub packages with
- 43:24Speaker 1: the Chiefs, but like showing up in those moments like
- 43:27Speaker 1: big he's like you said, like he's crushing lineman left
- 43:31Speaker 1: and right. He's crushing tight ends. And I spoke on
- 43:34Speaker 1: one piecer like I like the pass rush stuff on
- 43:37Speaker 1: like third downs where it's like Nah, he's gonna be
- 43:39Speaker 1: like our three tech or we're gonna line him up
- 43:41Speaker 1: in one and one tech and like drop him out
- 43:44Speaker 1: or do these like crazy things. Yeah, it's it's such
- 43:47Speaker 1: a fun job and you know, and I kind of
- 43:49Speaker 1: put it like from a complimentary perspective with the Chiefs, right,
- 43:52Speaker 1: Like it's such a especially now with like numbers being
- 43:55Speaker 1: weird for players, but the Chiefs are kind of traditional
- 43:57Speaker 1: with it. It's so like watching Chiefs tape and trying
- 44:01Speaker 1: to figure out who is where and who's doing what
- 44:04Speaker 1: is such a pain in the butt, like watching tape
- 44:07Speaker 1: because you're like, how did this guy get to the
- 44:10Speaker 1: flat he was lined up at the other edge on
- 44:13Speaker 1: the other side of the field, Like what is happening?
- 44:15Speaker 1: Like who who rushed? Who dropped? Who's in? Yeah, Like
- 44:18Speaker 1: it's especially when they get into the four safety stuff
- 44:20Speaker 1: and I'm going to talk about one of them in
- 44:21Speaker 1: my next points. Yeah, just like seeing how they get
- 44:24Speaker 1: to everything. You have that creativity that Spags has and
- 44:28Speaker 1: what he's able to throw at defenses or offenses I
- 44:30Speaker 1: should say, in terms of disguising and what coverages they
- 44:33Speaker 1: run and how they run it. It's really well done
- 44:35Speaker 1: from like a schematic perspective and a creative perspective. But
- 44:38Speaker 1: he's able to do that because of the body types
- 44:41Speaker 1: and the skill sets that they have on that defense.
- 44:44Speaker 1: And he's so good at just kind of playing puppet
- 44:47Speaker 1: master and putting guys in the right spot to succeed.
- 44:50Speaker 1: And so it's a bit of like kind of what
- 44:51Speaker 1: came first, the chicken or the egg, Like these guys
- 44:53Speaker 1: are being maximized by Spags in this defense, but he's
- 44:56Speaker 1: maximizing them because they have the body types and skill
- 44:59Speaker 1: sets that be maximized by him. And it really is
- 45:02Speaker 1: like I also gravitate to what the Chiefs do like
- 45:06Speaker 1: and again it's a lot of it. It's my second
- 45:07Speaker 1: point too, like the type of defense they play stylistically
- 45:10Speaker 1: is how like if I was defensive coordinator, that's the
- 45:12Speaker 1: type of defense I would play. And I also think,
- 45:14Speaker 1: given how NFL offenses are shifting more towards you know,
- 45:18Speaker 1: bringing the run game back more twelve, more heavy, eleven
- 45:22Speaker 1: you know, more thirteen, I do think the next answer
- 45:26Speaker 1: for defenses is an athletic actual linebacker or more three
- 45:32Speaker 1: safety looks where your nickel is actually a safety who
- 45:34Speaker 1: can do so like like what Kamari Connor is or
- 45:37Speaker 1: even what you know the Chargers do a little bit
- 45:39Speaker 1: now where they're rocking Gilman and molding a safety and
- 45:42Speaker 1: then Derwin is that big nickel, or what the Cardinals
- 45:44Speaker 1: do with Buddha and Jalen and then Emerson. Now, like,
- 45:49Speaker 1: I think that's the next wave and the Chiefs are
- 45:51Speaker 1: built for that because they've got three safeties already and
- 45:53Speaker 1: then depending on how you feel about Hicks, they might
- 45:55Speaker 1: have a fourth. And then what they can do with
- 45:57Speaker 1: the linebackers. Yeah, man, there's just a lot of really
- 46:00Speaker 1: fun personnel stuff they can do.
- 46:02Speaker 3: Yeah, So from the personnel side, I think they can
- 46:05Speaker 3: handle what Buffalo wants to throw out them and like,
- 46:07Speaker 3: and I don't mean this as a negative because I
- 46:09Speaker 3: really like the tight end tandem that Buffalo has, but
- 46:12Speaker 3: the twelve personnel from Buffalo does it. I don't think
- 46:15Speaker 3: is gonna scare the Chiefs from a run blocking perspective.
- 46:17Speaker 3: I don't think they are gonna see those tight ends
- 46:19Speaker 3: and be like, oh, we have to play this differently.
- 46:22Speaker 3: We we gotta be afraid of getting our butts kicked,
- 46:25Speaker 3: you know, right at the line of scrimmage. Because they
- 46:27Speaker 3: have two tight ends out there. I don't think they'll
- 46:28Speaker 3: feel that way. I think they feel plenty confident with
- 46:30Speaker 3: their three two or three linebackers, or Connor or Justin
- 46:34Speaker 3: Reid taking on a block from good blocking receivers and
- 46:38Speaker 3: then a Kincaid or even a NOx like. I think
- 46:40Speaker 3: they just feel okay with all that. So from the
- 46:41Speaker 3: personnel side, I agree. I'm gonna parlay is this right
- 46:44Speaker 3: in my next point though, where I think the Chiefs
- 46:46Speaker 3: are gonna be in a pickle here though, that cornerback
- 46:48Speaker 3: room outside of Trim McDuffie, and even if you're gonna
- 46:50Speaker 3: include this last game with Trim McDuffie a little worrisome
- 46:53Speaker 3: right now. Jalen Watson was playing excellent football this year,
- 46:57Speaker 3: Like the Chiefs didn't feel the loss of Lagerry has
- 47:00Speaker 3: seen it all the way Jalen Watson was.
- 47:02Speaker 1: Playing a great point. I really was like, ooh, that's
- 47:04Speaker 1: gonna hurt hard. And then Watson I was like, oh,
- 47:06Speaker 1: like a typical I was like, oh, of course, like
- 47:07Speaker 1: Jalen Watson raised his game and they're not missing it
- 47:09Speaker 1: at all, fantastic.
- 47:10Speaker 3: At all, right, and then he gets hurt and so
- 47:13Speaker 3: they hadn't had who they Nazi Johnson. So Joshua Williams
- 47:17Speaker 3: and Jalen Watson have been splitting reps in the year's past.
- 47:19Speaker 3: Watson was clearly the guy that they thought was better,
- 47:22Speaker 3: but they wanted Joshua Williams to get their role, so
- 47:25Speaker 3: they split the reps for the guy that was better
- 47:27Speaker 3: versus the guy that they wanted. But it was always
- 47:29Speaker 3: clear who the better player was, and then this year
- 47:31Speaker 3: he took that step, so Watson was great. Joshua Williams
- 47:34Speaker 3: actually lost his job to Nazi Johnson, who up until
- 47:37Speaker 3: last week hadn't played the significant snaps in the NFL.
- 47:39Speaker 3: He barely played as a rookie because he was deep
- 47:41Speaker 3: down the depth chart, missed all of last year, and
- 47:44Speaker 3: this year he was playing. You know, he kind of
- 47:46Speaker 3: got to the sec. Third corner spot and now he's starting.
- 47:48Speaker 3: And so the first game he's in there is against
- 47:50Speaker 3: the Denver Broncos. We don't have a big sample size,
- 47:53Speaker 3: so I'm sure he will get better because he has
- 47:55Speaker 3: such little experience.
- 47:56Speaker 1: But it was not pretty.
- 47:57Speaker 3: The numbers, the stats don't look bad, but there's a
- 47:59Speaker 3: lot of plays where he was giving up a lot
- 48:01Speaker 3: of separation. There was a lot of plays where if
- 48:04Speaker 3: you go back and watch, safeties are really having to
- 48:07Speaker 3: cover up for him getting beat pretty badly, and that's
- 48:10Speaker 3: leaving a lot of open space downfield. They're obviously gonna
- 48:13Speaker 3: play the Broncos and the Bills a little differently in
- 48:16Speaker 3: terms of the covers. They won't do so much single
- 48:18Speaker 3: high or anything. But there was a lot of times
- 48:20Speaker 3: where a safety had to completely vacate where he would
- 48:23Speaker 3: normally be, or not decide to take a deep route
- 48:26Speaker 3: because somebody else was wide open working on Nazie Johnson.
- 48:30Speaker 3: If you scheme stuff like that up open again to
- 48:32Speaker 3: where a safety has to get out of position to
- 48:34Speaker 3: protect him, there's gonna be some big plays to be had.
- 48:37Speaker 3: And so far this year she's been great at stopping
- 48:39Speaker 3: explosive plays. But I'm starting to see a little openings
- 48:42Speaker 3: in there with this cornerback room right now and how
- 48:45Speaker 3: the safeties are having to cover for him, and then
- 48:47Speaker 3: to the next point of that, even though actually you
- 48:50Speaker 3: can respond to that, then we'll come back. So I
- 48:51Speaker 3: have a building off point off of that one too.
- 48:53Speaker 1: No, I think it's where well said, like I'd watched
- 48:56Speaker 1: several Chiefs games coming into this week just in I
- 49:00Speaker 1: like weekly like regular work. And then obviously, like watch
- 49:02Speaker 1: the Broncos tape coming to this one and I figure
- 49:04Speaker 1: spot on like if there is an area to attack,
- 49:08Speaker 1: I do look at that other corner spot opposite of mcduffy,
- 49:12Speaker 1: and especially considering how it's one of like two main
- 49:16Speaker 1: spots I want to attack. One of them involves Chris Jones,
- 49:19Speaker 1: which is kind of in my second point, but yeah,
- 49:21Speaker 1: I do think like that that corner spots. It's again
- 49:26Speaker 1: no disrespect to like Denver, but I do think that
- 49:28Speaker 1: can be picked on more and taken advantage of more
- 49:32Speaker 1: by the right quarterback. I think the health of the
- 49:35Speaker 1: Bills wide receivers plays a lot into that as well,
- 49:38Speaker 1: because you know who's who's that receiver going up against him?
- 49:42Speaker 2: Is it?
- 49:43Speaker 1: Is it Amari Cooper? Is it Keyon Coleman? Is it
- 49:45Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel? Is it MATC Collins? Is it Tyrrell Shavers?
- 49:49Speaker 1: Is it Jalen Virgil? Like who's the corner or who's
- 49:53Speaker 1: the receiver going up against him? And before I get
- 49:57Speaker 1: to my second point, I did want to piggyback on
- 49:59Speaker 1: your like that Bills twelve against k C's just regular defense.
- 50:05Speaker 1: I do think that is advantage k C because King
- 50:07Speaker 1: Kaid against a regular Nickel. I think he's fine, although
- 50:11Speaker 1: Kenny Moore kind of gave him some problems in some
- 50:13Speaker 1: flashes and then game against the Colts. But if you
- 50:14Speaker 1: get like he tries, and I feel so bad saying
- 50:17Speaker 1: that because that sounds like such a backhanded compliment, like
- 50:19Speaker 1: he's not scared, like he goes in, like he's not soft.
- 50:23Speaker 1: He is a willing blocker, he just doesn't have the
- 50:26Speaker 1: technique or the physicality behind it. And so I do think,
- 50:30Speaker 1: you know, even though Kinkaid has Connor on weight, I
- 50:33Speaker 1: would take Connor, especially with how comfortable Connor is blitzing
- 50:36Speaker 1: literally playing at the line of scrimmage like and knocks.
- 50:40Speaker 1: Is a better blocker than he gets credit for. Like
- 50:42Speaker 1: he had a really great wham on Grover Stewart against
- 50:45Speaker 1: the Colts, and I was like, oh, like, look at you.
- 50:46Speaker 1: And he can handle some edges and do some stuff.
- 50:49Speaker 1: You know, he's a legitimate blocker. He's grown into that.
- 50:51Speaker 1: I think he's kind of a better blocker than he
- 50:53Speaker 1: is pass catcher now, which is just pointing for Bills
- 50:55Speaker 1: fans to hear. But yeah, I wonder how Kinkaid can
- 50:58Speaker 1: kind of hold his own as a blocker versus Connor,
- 51:01Speaker 1: or again, if they actually go base, good luck, like
- 51:05Speaker 1: against tranquill or San or like I mean, you're probably
- 51:08Speaker 1: not geting matched up against Bolton, but like you're not
- 51:10Speaker 1: gonna be able to handle the linebackers, especially because if
- 51:12Speaker 1: you can't even handle Connor, like I would I honestly
- 51:16Speaker 1: probably give if McDuffie was inside, I would give the
- 51:18Speaker 1: advantage to McDuffie versus Kikaid from a blocking perspective, because
- 51:21Speaker 1: he's not really.
- 51:22Speaker 3: Good Yea, yeah, he's great against I mean, like there's
- 51:24Speaker 3: offensive tackles. Then then that's saying he beats off into tackles,
- 51:27Speaker 3: Like there's offensive tackles that don't get a good kickout
- 51:29Speaker 3: on Trep McDuffie just because of how he angles his
- 51:32Speaker 3: body and he can play so well. It's like, yeah,
- 51:34Speaker 3: then that's a tough one there. And before we did
- 51:37Speaker 3: move on, so it sounds like you have another part
- 51:38Speaker 3: about the Chiefs defense. I didn't want to say too
- 51:40Speaker 3: that with the Nazi Johnson thing, right the same, the
- 51:43Speaker 3: Chiefs like to still play like pretty traditional match coverage
- 51:46Speaker 3: and not a lot of the NFL. The NFL's kind
- 51:47Speaker 3: of gone away from that a little bit recently in
- 51:50Speaker 3: order to get like better with the too high and
- 51:52Speaker 3: protect all the deep stuff. So like that's why you
- 51:54Speaker 3: will see the Chiefs occasionally get Brian Cook matched up
- 51:57Speaker 3: on Rashid Shaheed, your best vertical receiver, He'll matched up
- 52:00Speaker 3: with them one on one.
- 52:01Speaker 1: Because it's true match.
- 52:02Speaker 3: Coverage a lot well. With Nazi Johnson and not Jalen Watson,
- 52:05Speaker 3: they've kind of having to tweak that a little bit,
- 52:07Speaker 3: and what that's doing is taken away a little bit
- 52:09Speaker 3: of help from the linebackers and coverage. So when you
- 52:11Speaker 3: keep the Chiefs and they're just normal nickel, you do
- 52:14Speaker 3: get Bolton and Drew trink Will having to cover a
- 52:16Speaker 3: lot more space without as much safety help as they
- 52:18Speaker 3: had earlier in the year. And you have seen some
- 52:21Speaker 3: teams here recently kind of take advantage of that by
- 52:23Speaker 3: making them really stretch out to the flats without safety help.
- 52:26Speaker 3: It's been at a little dicey, and so I do
- 52:29Speaker 3: think the lack of Jalen Watson has forced him to
- 52:31Speaker 3: adjust how much their safeties can help their linebackers. Just
- 52:34Speaker 3: another area that I could see the Bills like trying
- 52:36Speaker 3: to attack and all stems from being uncertain about what
- 52:40Speaker 3: to do with that cornerback two position because now they're
- 52:42Speaker 3: kind of having to protect them pretty bit.
- 52:44Speaker 1: I love that point and it ties in very well
- 52:47Speaker 1: with my second. Before I get to it real quick, Matt,
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- 53:35Speaker 1: that has the passing touchdowns leader for twenty twenty four
- 53:38Speaker 1: Joe Burrow at twenty four, Lamar Jackson at twenty four,
- 53:41Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield at twenty four tied for first, and then
- 53:44Speaker 1: you've got Josh Allen at seventeen, Kirk Cousins at seventeen,
- 53:47Speaker 1: Sam Donald at seventeen. I want to ask you which
- 53:49Speaker 1: one of these players actually, No, I'm gonna narrow it
- 53:53Speaker 1: down to two. What's more surprising to you that Baker
- 53:56Speaker 1: Mayfield is tied for first or that Sam Donald is
- 53:59Speaker 1: tie for second slash third with seventeen.
- 54:03Speaker 3: Oh, it's Baker Mayfield for sure, especially when you factor
- 54:06Speaker 3: especially when you factor in the injuries right like he
- 54:08Speaker 3: lost Mike Evans and Chris got a few games ago,
- 54:10Speaker 3: Like you would assume that those wide receiver injuries would
- 54:12Speaker 3: start to catch up in the numbers a little bit.
- 54:14Speaker 3: And so yeah, I think it's him still holding strong.
- 54:17Speaker 3: To be tied for the lead is kind of Oh,
- 54:19Speaker 3: good for you, Baker.
- 54:20Speaker 1: Yeah. I saw this and I was like, Okay, Burrow, Lamar, Oh, Baker,
- 54:24Speaker 1: And then I was like Alan Cousins Donald, Like just
- 54:26Speaker 1: the surprise is there. Yeah, I'm happy for Sam Darnald
- 54:30Speaker 1: and kind of what he I'm still a Sam Darnald truther.
- 54:33Speaker 1: I really he was my QB one that year. I
- 54:35Speaker 1: know that was Josh Allen's class. Don't yell at me, everyone.
- 54:38Speaker 1: I really do think if he went to a better situation,
- 54:40Speaker 1: he would be a lot better of a quarterback. I
- 54:43Speaker 1: am of the belief, as many are, that teams fail
- 54:46Speaker 1: players more than players fail teams, and the Jets failed
- 54:49Speaker 1: him and just really kind of ruddered him from the
- 54:52Speaker 1: get go. So I'm happy to see him kind of
- 54:54Speaker 1: succeeding in Minnesota middle the bottoms falling out a little bit.
- 54:57Speaker 1: But Baker Mayfield and that offense, what no one is
- 55:00Speaker 1: doing is the offensive coordinator when they were clicking when
- 55:03Speaker 1: they were healthy. It was awesome when they weren't before,
- 55:06Speaker 1: like it just watching them roll when they were healthy
- 55:10Speaker 1: and then even not being able to stem the tide.
- 55:11Speaker 1: What he's doing with Bucky Irving and Rashad White and
- 55:13Speaker 1: kind of seeing how Baker is the catalyst of all
- 55:15Speaker 1: of it, and the journey that Baker's been on as
- 55:18Speaker 1: a person and player as well, really something so Yeah,
- 55:21Speaker 1: I thought that was a cool graphic that tided well
- 55:24Speaker 1: to this conversation that we're having here. I will get
- 55:26Speaker 1: into my second point now, so tying a little bit
- 55:30Speaker 1: into your coverage piece, especially from the corner perspective, but
- 55:32Speaker 1: also you mentioned the match coverage element, so this kind
- 55:36Speaker 1: of also stems from my first point a little bit
- 55:38Speaker 1: of the personnel. But again, watching Kansas City's defense on
- 55:42Speaker 1: tape is a pain the personnel, anyone being able to
- 55:45Speaker 1: go anywhere. I thought a really good example early on
- 55:48Speaker 1: against Denver. It's first down and pre snap you've got
- 55:52Speaker 1: Brian Cook and Justin Reid as split field safeties. Kamari
- 55:56Speaker 1: Connor is the apex, but he's lined up on the
- 55:59Speaker 1: edge and he's shown and blitz. As the snap nears,
- 56:02Speaker 1: there's movement, and then on the snap, Cook rotates to
- 56:07Speaker 1: the post, Kamari Connor drops Nick Bolton bumps to fit
- 56:11Speaker 1: where Connor was, and then Read buzzes down to where
- 56:14Speaker 1: Nick Bolton was and shoots the a gap. It ends
- 56:17Speaker 1: up being a gain of four yards. But just like
- 56:19Speaker 1: the amount of what was happening, and there's so many
- 56:23Speaker 1: moving parts pre and post snap for this defense, and
- 56:25Speaker 1: it's not just for the sake of moving parts. It's coordinated,
- 56:28Speaker 1: it's purposeful, it sounds, and that applies to both the
- 56:31Speaker 1: pass and the run. The caveat is and you mentioned
- 56:34Speaker 1: it a bit, there are voids and coverage. The more
- 56:36Speaker 1: spags turns up the creativity and the aggressive dials and
- 56:40Speaker 1: so a lot of this for me, and my second
- 56:42Speaker 1: point here really is josh Allen versus the disguised coverage
- 56:46Speaker 1: and fronts of spags. A lot of it comes down
- 56:49Speaker 1: to can you get spags before spags gets you? Who
- 56:53Speaker 1: blinks first, who misses a read or an assignment, who
- 56:56Speaker 1: gets beat quickly on the line or in coverage, and
- 56:58Speaker 1: how much can Josh am and accurately process what's happening
- 57:02Speaker 1: in front of him. And this also ties into another
- 57:04Speaker 1: element that I think kind of matters here in a
- 57:06Speaker 1: little bit of a sub bullet, how much do we
- 57:09Speaker 1: see the Bills use condensed sets or reduced formational within
- 57:12Speaker 1: this game, because that ties into some of the match
- 57:15Speaker 1: coverage piece and coverage in general. It's a bit of
- 57:17Speaker 1: a risk award for them, specifically against the Chiefs. Condensed
- 57:21Speaker 1: sets make it harder to use match coverage mechanics and
- 57:24Speaker 1: diagnose route distributions. It also makes it harder to play
- 57:27Speaker 1: man coverage because of potential picks and rubs and all
- 57:29Speaker 1: that stuff. So there's the potential there to create some
- 57:32Speaker 1: voids in coverage by going condensed. But going condensed also
- 57:35Speaker 1: means the defense isn't spread out, which means it's harder
- 57:38Speaker 1: to get a read on them pre snap. So defense
- 57:40Speaker 1: can play further into disguises up front and in coverage,
- 57:44Speaker 1: and it can be harder to know what's coming, who's dropping,
- 57:46Speaker 1: and what coverage is being played. And so I think
- 57:49Speaker 1: that's why I was so excited when you mentioned that
- 57:50Speaker 1: point of you know, they like to play out the
- 57:53Speaker 1: split field coverages and match stuff, but they're doing it
- 57:56Speaker 1: less a little bit to account for what they got
- 57:57Speaker 1: happened in a corner. But then also the Bills can
- 58:00Speaker 1: attack that whether they're playing spot drop or man or match,
- 58:03Speaker 1: they can attack it with condensed sets and reducing their
- 58:06Speaker 1: formational width. But it also makes it a little harder,
- 58:08Speaker 1: means Alin has to really be on point from a
- 58:10Speaker 1: processing perspective. That's another one for me, and that's my
- 58:13Speaker 1: number two.
- 58:14Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I mean that makes a ton of sense,
- 58:16Speaker 3: and like especially with Alan who's one of the best
- 58:18Speaker 3: quarterbacks in the NFL.
- 58:19Speaker 1: I don't know if he's been the best again this.
- 58:21Speaker 3: Year, like handling pressure, like throwing, you know, with playing
- 58:24Speaker 3: under pressure stuff, but he's still one of the best
- 58:26Speaker 3: regardless of whatever the production has been this year.
- 58:28Speaker 1: He's really good in those moments. Like even if you
- 58:30Speaker 1: get him, you.
- 58:31Speaker 3: Don't always get him, if that makes sense, right, So,
- 58:33Speaker 3: like if you're Spags and maybe you get a blitz
- 58:35Speaker 3: or a pressure that gets home and you kind of
- 58:36Speaker 3: confuse him for a second, if he avoids it, or
- 58:39Speaker 3: if he just happened to deal with it and throw
- 58:41Speaker 3: the balls somewhere else, he can find those voids later
- 58:44Speaker 3: in the play or where he wasn't initially looking. So
- 58:46Speaker 3: that already, right there is enough to say, like this
- 58:48Speaker 3: is one of those games where just because you cook
- 58:51Speaker 3: up something that works if you're Spags, it doesn't mean
- 58:53Speaker 3: it's always like the execution is always going to be there.
- 58:54Speaker 3: It doesn't mean it's always going to play out the
- 58:56Speaker 3: way you want. So yeah, that's a big part. I
- 58:58Speaker 3: think those rotations you I'll still see them there that
- 59:01Speaker 3: you know, all this crazy Spags rotations and stuff are
- 59:03Speaker 3: still going to exist. But I do think they got
- 59:05Speaker 3: to play a little bit more sound on the back
- 59:07Speaker 3: end to protect themselves from the Nazi Johnson kind of
- 59:10Speaker 3: thing right now, and so maybe that does slow it
- 59:12Speaker 3: down a little bit, and maybe they do have to
- 59:13Speaker 3: keep it a little bit more basic because you now
- 59:15Speaker 3: have a new guy stepping in who it was only
- 59:17Speaker 3: one coverage that like or called that he obviously missed up,
- 59:20Speaker 3: but he clearly was playing man on a play where
- 59:22Speaker 3: everybody else played zone and led to some very wide,
- 59:24Speaker 3: open wide receivers versus Denver. It's like, how much do
- 59:27Speaker 3: you really have to unleash if you have a guy
- 59:29Speaker 3: still working into it? So that's big. I do like
- 59:33Speaker 3: the condensed for spread out thing though, because here it is.
- 59:35Speaker 3: I think se spag Nola wishes every team would play condensed.
- 59:38Speaker 3: He's blitz package against condensed formations is through the roof.
- 59:42Speaker 1: Zee loves it.
- 59:43Speaker 3: There's a reason that he is so good against the
- 59:45Speaker 3: Shanny coaching tree right now is like a defensive mind
- 59:47Speaker 3: because they want to everybody wants to go condense, and
- 59:50Speaker 3: he just goes, Okay, let me pull out this giant
- 59:52Speaker 3: cheesecake factory menu of looks and blitzes that I want to.
- 59:55Speaker 1: I'm gonna put ten guys on the line of scrimmage
- 59:57Speaker 1: and you're gonna have no idea what's happening right right right?
- 1:00:00Speaker 3: And so yeah, so yeah, he not that again, it
- 1:00:03Speaker 3: can't work. I want to be very clear, because Josh
- 1:00:04Speaker 3: Allen makes a lot of stuff work. I've seen it
- 1:00:06Speaker 3: as a Chiefs fan. They've gotten free runners at him
- 1:00:08Speaker 3: that just haven't mattered. But going condensed does give I
- 1:00:12Speaker 3: put spags I think in his comfort zone. So you
- 1:00:14Speaker 3: gotta be a little careful with that. You got to
- 1:00:16Speaker 3: use it sparingly and kind of have a plan of attack.
- 1:00:18Speaker 1: Ready, Yeah, that and get you You nailed it. That
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: was right on the head. Like I was like, oh,
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: this can kind of work, but against bags it really doesn't.
- 1:00:25Speaker 1: But like it also could, but also you probably shouldn't
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: do it. But also do you want to Like it's
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: just another little element there for the chess match there?
- 1:00:32Speaker 1: All right, Matt, we've each given our first two. What
- 1:00:34Speaker 1: is your third? Okay, my third? Uh? What is the
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: Bills playing on third down against the Chiefs? Patrick Mahomes.
- 1:00:42Speaker 3: This Chiefs offense has been exceptional and third down like
- 1:00:45Speaker 3: they've been the second best third down offense so far
- 1:00:48Speaker 3: this year, if you're gonna go by like success rate,
- 1:00:49Speaker 3: they've been the best. If you go to third and
- 1:00:52Speaker 3: three plus, they've been like they're on like a historic
- 1:00:55Speaker 3: trend and not like the best ever, but like one
- 1:00:56Speaker 3: of the top five offenses of all time on third
- 1:00:59Speaker 3: and like three plus. So this offense is really clicking
- 1:01:02Speaker 3: on third downs. What is the Bill's answer for that?
- 1:01:05Speaker 3: And I specifically, the Broncos had success getting home with four,
- 1:01:09Speaker 3: blitzing a little bit and playing a lot of man
- 1:01:11Speaker 3: coverage behind it. I see the Bills don't really love
- 1:01:13Speaker 3: to play a lot of man coverage. No, no, you
- 1:01:15Speaker 3: already mentioned they don't like to blitz, but it's a
- 1:01:17Speaker 3: lot of not man coverage. Are they just gonna try
- 1:01:19Speaker 3: to play some zone on these third downs? Like?
- 1:01:21Speaker 2: What is?
- 1:01:22Speaker 3: How are they going to challenge Patrick Mahomes to get
- 1:01:23Speaker 3: out of his comfort zone on third down? Because he
- 1:01:26Speaker 3: has been for as much talk as the Chiefs like
- 1:01:28Speaker 3: struggling on offense, it's been on first and second down.
- 1:01:31Speaker 3: On third downs, they have been lights out this year,
- 1:01:34Speaker 3: and a lot of it's because it's third and manageable,
- 1:01:35Speaker 3: but they have been so good on third downs specifically
- 1:01:38Speaker 3: in the passing game. It's like, what's the answer. What
- 1:01:41Speaker 3: are they gonna do to be ready for it? Or
- 1:01:43Speaker 3: is it just gonna be a little red zone roulette
- 1:01:45Speaker 3: kind of, you know, give them, let them march down
- 1:01:46Speaker 3: the field and hold them to field goals. Like just
- 1:01:48Speaker 3: kind of that plan is what really has me intrigued.
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: So that literally ties in perfectly with my third point,
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: so I'll speak of mining kind of tigers and as well.
- 1:01:56Speaker 1: So it's really just how the Chiefs adjust versus the
- 1:02:02Speaker 1: Bills adjustment based defense, so so much of and I
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: tweeted it out a tweet with all the numbers. I
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: don't want to read it because it's a super long tweet.
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: It's it's gonna bore everybody because it's just numbers. The
- 1:02:12Speaker 1: difference in the Bills defense from like an EPA perspective
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: and success rate perspective first half or second is stark
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: and really quantifies things like twenty six you know an
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: EPA per play in the first half, but like third
- 1:02:24Speaker 1: and EPA per play in the second. And it's similar
- 1:02:26Speaker 1: for success rate overall success rate and EPA per play
- 1:02:29Speaker 1: versus the pass and versus the run, and a lot
- 1:02:31Speaker 1: of it is the Bills defense comes out and they
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: play their scheme and they adjust accordingly. They're gonna be
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: a nickel, they're gonna have a four down over front.
- 1:02:38Speaker 1: They're gonna play coverage, they're gonna spin their safeties, all
- 1:02:41Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. Right. They might have little tweaks
- 1:02:43Speaker 1: to start each game, like what kind of you know,
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: too high coverage do they do they lean into this game?
- 1:02:48Speaker 1: Is it more of a cover six game or a
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: Cover two or maybe more Cover four? Or you know,
- 1:02:52Speaker 1: how much press are they gonna use little tweaks like that,
- 1:02:55Speaker 1: but it's still pretty standard fair across the board. Board.
- 1:02:57Speaker 1: Then based off of what you do, they adjust. Maybe
- 1:03:01Speaker 1: they walk a safety up sooner, maybe more run stunts, blitzes,
- 1:03:05Speaker 1: maybe the idea a certain concept in the past or
- 1:03:07Speaker 1: run that's hurting them and they learn to recognize it
- 1:03:10Speaker 1: and take it away the next time. So it's that
- 1:03:13Speaker 1: for the Bills versus the Chiefs, and kind of Andy
- 1:03:17Speaker 1: Reid's like first fifteen scripted plays which he uses to
- 1:03:20Speaker 1: like probe the defense and gather intel on how a
- 1:03:23Speaker 1: defense responds to certain alignment's formations, personnel, etceter. All that stuff.
- 1:03:27Speaker 1: So you've got the Bills defense, who adjusts based on
- 1:03:30Speaker 1: what you do, and the Chiefs offense, who adjust based
- 1:03:34Speaker 1: off of what you show in the beginning. So who
- 1:03:38Speaker 1: adjust accordingly? Who adjust correctly? And how quickly do they
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: do it? Again another like kind of chess match element
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: of it, and tying that in with you know, and
- 1:03:47Speaker 1: I mentioned it and you mentioned it just now too,
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: Like that jumped down immediately to me and watching then
- 1:03:52Speaker 1: the Denver tape against the Chiefs is like I think
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: the first literal three downs it was two man and
- 1:03:58Speaker 1: I think cover one and cover one, but either way
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: it was three straight third downs of man coverage on
- 1:04:03Speaker 1: each one. Again, part of that is like you know,
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: you have certain and Riley Moss who's actually playing like
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: a really good corner, but the Bills don't do that.
- 1:04:11Speaker 1: Like they'll play some press, but it's usually like a
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: press baale and like some zone after it. They're not
- 1:04:16Speaker 1: leaning into a ton of man and so I wonder
- 1:04:19Speaker 1: do they come out and so like how your point
- 1:04:21Speaker 1: ties into mind, Like how do they come out after
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: what they've seen? And is that their tweak to start
- 1:04:27Speaker 1: the game. Is it more man coverage to kind of
- 1:04:30Speaker 1: start this game or is it no We're gonna stick
- 1:04:33Speaker 1: with who we are and what we've done.
- 1:04:34Speaker 3: We'll kind of see, you know, what KC does, and
- 1:04:37Speaker 3: then we'll adjust. And then that leads into a bigger
- 1:04:40Speaker 3: thing because game script is so important for the Bills.
- 1:04:42Speaker 3: You can't let the game get away. Like does it
- 1:04:44Speaker 3: take you too long to adjust? Or are you adjusting
- 1:04:46Speaker 3: after an opponent hung fourteen or twenty one points on
- 1:04:50Speaker 3: you and you've only put up three like Baltimore and
- 1:04:52Speaker 3: now you're kind of chasing your tail a little bit.
- 1:04:54Speaker 3: I think like that again, it's just so funny, like
- 1:04:57Speaker 3: are you saying it like right off?
- 1:04:58Speaker 1: For rep? But I was like, oh, man coverage. I'm like, ah,
- 1:05:00Speaker 1: the Bills aren't gonna do that. And I was like,
- 1:05:02Speaker 1: is that gonna be their tweak? Is that something they
- 1:05:03Speaker 1: do because traditionally they really just show up with like
- 1:05:06Speaker 1: their identity and who they are and they just tweak
- 1:05:09Speaker 1: it a little bit.
- 1:05:10Speaker 3: Yeah no, And like that would be that would be
- 1:05:12Speaker 3: a perfect wrinkle to toss in there, right, would be
- 1:05:14Speaker 3: going a little bit more man coverage heavy against the
- 1:05:16Speaker 3: Chiefs because they don't have great answers. Now, Patrick Curtain
- 1:05:19Speaker 3: is a different animal than a lot of other corners
- 1:05:21Speaker 3: in the NFL, and like, part of why the Chiefs
- 1:05:23Speaker 3: probably feel a little comfortable against man coverage where they
- 1:05:26Speaker 3: are right now is DeAndre Hopkins. While he's not what
- 1:05:29Speaker 3: he once was, he's still capable of getting you a
- 1:05:31Speaker 3: win versus man coverage on third down here and there
- 1:05:34Speaker 3: throughout a game. Travis Kelsey still gets you a couple
- 1:05:36Speaker 3: wins here and there throughout a game. So if you
- 1:05:38Speaker 3: don't have curtainan who can essentially erase the Hopkins element
- 1:05:41Speaker 3: of that, and it's just one guy, can you get
- 1:05:43Speaker 3: away with it? Do the Bills have somebody that will
- 1:05:46Speaker 3: be able to take Hopkins away? Because Patrick Wilms is
- 1:05:48Speaker 3: getting more comfortable looking for him in those high leverage spots.
- 1:05:50Speaker 1: So can they One? Will they do it? Two?
- 1:05:54Speaker 3: Can they do it? And if not, like, how are
- 1:05:56Speaker 3: they gonna handle the Chief's zone beating stuff, which, to
- 1:05:59Speaker 3: be fair, teams this year have done better than years
- 1:06:01Speaker 3: past on earlier downs. You know that people are getting
- 1:06:04Speaker 3: used to how Andy likes the flood zones. They've been
- 1:06:06Speaker 3: getting more guys over there. It's I don't want to
- 1:06:08Speaker 3: say Andy Reid knows more about football than I will
- 1:06:10Speaker 3: ever know in my entire life. But it almost looks
- 1:06:13Speaker 3: like the entire NFL, after trying to chase him for
- 1:06:16Speaker 3: you know, a half decade now is kind of catching
- 1:06:18Speaker 3: up a little bit to how he likes to attack zone.
- 1:06:20Speaker 3: So when do we start seeing the change ups? What
- 1:06:22Speaker 3: are they? But then you go look at the numbers,
- 1:06:24Speaker 3: You're like, well, on third downs, I guess it doesn't
- 1:06:26Speaker 3: matter because fifteen is still back. They're making it work.
- 1:06:29Speaker 3: So like, yeah, just that chess match, I'm with you,
- 1:06:30Speaker 3: it's gonna be a great one to.
- 1:06:31Speaker 1: Watch, Yeah, and have a really good call to about kind
- 1:06:34Speaker 1: of people maybe catching up a little bit. And I
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: also wonder if it's not necessarily even just read but
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: like league wide, people love to run like flood stuff,
- 1:06:42Speaker 1: and like before, I don't know, like three four years ago,
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: Andy Reid was doing four strong and everybody's like, wow,
- 1:06:46Speaker 1: look at him using four strong. And now everybody's like,
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: we're all gonna use four strong, and we're all one
- 1:06:50Speaker 1: in sale concept and flood in every zone and we're
- 1:06:52Speaker 1: gonna drain coverage and check it down and all that stuff. Yeah,
- 1:06:55Speaker 1: So it's it's funny again the cyclical nature of football
- 1:06:57Speaker 1: and everybody kind of copycats and figures things out and
- 1:06:59Speaker 1: I want under The more people have copied Andy Reid,
- 1:07:03Speaker 1: it gave more defenses more of an opportunity to catch
- 1:07:06Speaker 1: up to that, which allowed them to kind of catch
- 1:07:07Speaker 1: up to read. But then again he keeps the stuff
- 1:07:09Speaker 1: in the back pocket and kind of go from there.
- 1:07:11Speaker 1: I'm gonna trudge it on and go over some things
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: to kind of wind down here on this episode. So
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: we will still be continuing this episode of disguise coverage,
- 1:07:19Speaker 1: but we have kept Matt here long enough and we
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: have to say goodbye. Matt. You gave your three points.
- 1:07:23Speaker 1: They were tremendous. You were awesome as always. I appreciate
- 1:07:26Speaker 1: you taking time out of your very busy schedule to
- 1:07:29Speaker 1: join me here. It was awesome, kind of wasting too
- 1:07:31Speaker 1: much time before we went live and chopping it up
- 1:07:33Speaker 1: offline and then speaking here on the show. Just in
- 1:07:35Speaker 1: case people don't know who you are, what you do
- 1:07:37Speaker 1: where they can find you. I always tell everyone that
- 1:07:41Speaker 1: you know, if you are a Bills fan, you need
- 1:07:43Speaker 1: to stay up on every other team because every other
- 1:07:45Speaker 1: team is your enemy. And I think you are legitimate,
- 1:07:47Speaker 1: like the best go to for chief stuff and you
- 1:07:50Speaker 1: just know football in general as well, so feel free
- 1:07:51Speaker 1: to plug anything and everything you got. The floor is yours.
- 1:07:54Speaker 1: I appreciate that one.
- 1:07:55Speaker 3: I am always happy to come on talks the ball
- 1:07:58Speaker 3: with you guys. I'm very excited to do it again
- 1:08:00Speaker 3: and later in the playoffs when we get to run
- 1:08:01Speaker 3: this back and that game that matters more later this
- 1:08:03Speaker 3: year is it's gonna.
- 1:08:04Speaker 1: Happen to like, very excited for that. Thank you for
- 1:08:07Speaker 1: having me. You know.
- 1:08:08Speaker 3: If you want to follow me on Twitter, it's Maddie
- 1:08:10Speaker 3: Underscore cacs In. I'd say as a Bills fan, don't
- 1:08:12Speaker 3: fall don't look at my tweets during the Chiefs Bills
- 1:08:14Speaker 3: game because I tweet like a fan. Outside the game,
- 1:08:18Speaker 3: we're all good, but during the game, I tweet like
- 1:08:21Speaker 3: a fan.
- 1:08:21Speaker 1: So just fair warning for that.
- 1:08:23Speaker 3: But no, you can check me out on Twitter if
- 1:08:25Speaker 3: you want to follow me or just Casey Sports Network.
- 1:08:27Speaker 3: You know, we do a lot of different Chiefs covers.
- 1:08:29Speaker 3: Me and all my buddies that I work with, we
- 1:08:30Speaker 3: have a lot of fun. I've said it every time
- 1:08:32Speaker 3: I came back cover. One was kind of a little
- 1:08:34Speaker 3: bit like one of our inspirations that we pulled from
- 1:08:36Speaker 3: when we started our company, and so I always appreciate
- 1:08:38Speaker 3: getting to come on and talk about that and share that.
- 1:08:41Speaker 3: Besides that, I you got to slide out of here.
- 1:08:42Speaker 3: I'm excited for the game. I also I have to
- 1:08:45Speaker 3: point out it was subtle, but my dig here, I'm
- 1:08:48Speaker 3: running out of space for super Bowl hats here, buddy,
- 1:08:50Speaker 3: And I don't know if you've seen this, I got
- 1:08:52Speaker 3: you know, my mantle's getting full. I got one over
- 1:08:54Speaker 3: here hanging out on some bottles like I'm running out
- 1:08:56Speaker 3: of space for super Bowl hats.
- 1:08:58Speaker 1: You know what's funny is when you offline. I legitimately
- 1:09:02Speaker 1: noticed that right away, and I literally said to myself,
- 1:09:05Speaker 1: I was like, is he gonna have to replace the
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: red chiefs helmet with another hat? If I went again,
- 1:09:11Speaker 1: I was like, what is he gonna do? Man? You
- 1:09:13Speaker 1: are the worst? Enjoy I guess the rest of your Tuesday.
- 1:09:19Speaker 1: I will see you in the DMS. You're awesome. I
- 1:09:21Speaker 1: appreciate that hat. Ya Yeah, enjoy the rest of your night.
- 1:09:24Speaker 1: They're the worst. Godspeed, I appreciate you.
- 1:09:27Speaker 3: Heik.
- 1:09:27Speaker 1: You guys have a good lives later. Oh man, good
- 1:09:31Speaker 1: stuff from mister Matt Lane. Yeah and legitimate, like an
- 1:09:34Speaker 1: awesome follow knows this stuff. Even if it's it's Chiefs
- 1:09:37Speaker 1: related or not. A legitimately awesome follow Thank you very
- 1:09:41Speaker 1: much to him. Again. We're gonna judge on for a
- 1:09:44Speaker 1: couple more pieces here to talk about a lot of
- 1:09:47Speaker 1: intensity in the chat tonight. I was noticing from I
- 1:09:51Speaker 1: guess we had some Chiefs people in here, a lot
- 1:09:53Speaker 1: of intensity. I wanted to grab this comment here from Richie.
- 1:09:57Speaker 1: Appreciate you popping in, Richie, and for the super chat
- 1:09:59Speaker 1: is Richie says, Casey fans will disagree, but how much
- 1:10:03Speaker 1: does case value a game impossible win against us with Coleman,
- 1:10:07Speaker 1: Kincaid and possibly Cooper out those injuries? You know, injuries happen,
- 1:10:12Speaker 1: But be honest, I think to your point, I don't
- 1:10:15Speaker 1: think they care. I think case fans and the team
- 1:10:18Speaker 1: in general, they want to win. You know, Matt talked
- 1:10:20Speaker 1: about it earlier when we're kind of leading into it.
- 1:10:23Speaker 1: If the Chiefs win this game, they're ahead of the
- 1:10:25Speaker 1: Bills by three in the lost column. You're looking at
- 1:10:29Speaker 1: the Steelers there with two losses. But I don't think
- 1:10:32Speaker 1: that's necessarily a team that anyone thinks is going to
- 1:10:34Speaker 1: really fight for that one seed. So if the Chiefs
- 1:10:36Speaker 1: can win this game, they move significantly forward towards wrapping
- 1:10:40Speaker 1: up that one seed. I don't think kinas City fans,
- 1:10:44Speaker 1: you know, who care who's injured if as long as
- 1:10:47Speaker 1: they get to win. And I also kind of take
- 1:10:48Speaker 1: it further something Matt and I I talked about earlier.
- 1:10:52Speaker 1: I don't think Case fans care whether or not they
- 1:10:54Speaker 1: lose this game too much. I'm sure there is some
- 1:10:57Speaker 1: element of it in bragging rights to it, and you know,
- 1:10:59Speaker 1: being able to move three of the Bills in the
- 1:11:00Speaker 1: lost column potentially wrap up the one seed and let
- 1:11:03Speaker 1: some guys rest down the stretch. But I'll even kind
- 1:11:06Speaker 1: of tie in life perspective here. I want the Bills
- 1:11:08Speaker 1: to win this game because I still want to chase
- 1:11:10Speaker 1: that one seed, and this is a move towards that
- 1:11:12Speaker 1: and a step towards that. These regular season games against
- 1:11:16Speaker 1: the Chiefs like matter from like a seting perspective and
- 1:11:18Speaker 1: just from the logistics of I want more wins than losses.
- 1:11:22Speaker 1: It's an AFC opponent, so conference win, conference lost, tiebreaker things,
- 1:11:25Speaker 1: all that in playoff seeding. But winning this game doesn't
- 1:11:30Speaker 1: really move the needle for me too much with the Bills.
- 1:11:32Speaker 1: I've been there really since last year. I do not
- 1:11:35Speaker 1: care too much whether the Bills win or lose this game.
- 1:11:38Speaker 1: If the Bills lose this game, I don't think they've
- 1:11:41Speaker 1: been outclassed by the Chiefs. If they win this game,
- 1:11:44Speaker 1: I don't think that means they're even and they're ready
- 1:11:46Speaker 1: to do it this year and beat them in the
- 1:11:47Speaker 1: playoffs if that comes to it. And we talked about
- 1:11:50Speaker 1: it earlier, multiple people said in the chat the Chiefs
- 1:11:53Speaker 1: and Andy Reid and Spags, they keep stuff in their
- 1:11:55Speaker 1: back pocket for the playoffs. This is and I hate
- 1:11:58Speaker 1: saying it because I feel like it sounds cliche or
- 1:11:59Speaker 1: p but they are a legitimately different beast come playoff time,
- 1:12:04Speaker 1: and so beating them in the regular season isn't just
- 1:12:09Speaker 1: it's just not something that moves the needle too much
- 1:12:11Speaker 1: for me. And so when you think you're looking at
- 1:12:12Speaker 1: it from a fan perspective, I guess really like from
- 1:12:15Speaker 1: a Chief fan perspective, I feel like they don't care
- 1:12:18Speaker 1: whether they win or lose this game, And if they
- 1:12:20Speaker 1: do win, I don't think they're looking at it like,
- 1:12:23Speaker 1: yeah we won, but they didn't have you know, coleman
- 1:12:25Speaker 1: or Cooper Kincaid, all they're looking at it is as
- 1:12:28Speaker 1: a is a win. Is a win is a win,
- 1:12:30Speaker 1: and especially considering they've beaten the Bills in the playoffs
- 1:12:33Speaker 1: when it's mattered most. If you're a Chiefs fan and
- 1:12:36Speaker 1: someone tells you, yeah, you beat the Bills, but they
- 1:12:38Speaker 1: didn't have Coleman, Kincaid or Cooper, all they're gonna say
- 1:12:41Speaker 1: is like, so we beat them when they were kind
- 1:12:43Speaker 1: of at their top in the playoffs each year, Like
- 1:12:45Speaker 1: and again, I know last year they were hurt a lot,
- 1:12:47Speaker 1: but they're not gonna care. They're gonna take the win,
- 1:12:50Speaker 1: and perhaps so they're coming from it. You're saying, that's
- 1:12:52Speaker 1: my point, though, Does McDermott smart en up for once
- 1:12:54Speaker 1: and not show too much of our playbook? Maybe it's
- 1:12:58Speaker 1: tough that that's a real And again, I'm not I
- 1:13:01Speaker 1: know what goes into I know a little bit of
- 1:13:04Speaker 1: what goes into game planning week in and week out
- 1:13:07Speaker 1: for a game in the NFL, Not as much as
- 1:13:10Speaker 1: actual people in the actual NFL who are doing this
- 1:13:12Speaker 1: weekly as their job. But it takes a lot to
- 1:13:16Speaker 1: game plan and to execute in game. I don't think
- 1:13:20Speaker 1: it's that easy to kind of keep things in the
- 1:13:22Speaker 1: holster and not show everything I think it's easy to
- 1:13:27Speaker 1: not show everything. I think it's hard to limit yourself
- 1:13:31Speaker 1: and still put your best foot forward. Like it's a
- 1:13:34Speaker 1: fine line the Chiefs. The Chiefs have been doing this
- 1:13:36Speaker 1: for years, and several other teams have done it as well.
- 1:13:39Speaker 1: But I wonder how much of that line that they
- 1:13:42Speaker 1: toe and how much of that balance they try to rock,
- 1:13:44Speaker 1: because I do think it is a fine line. I
- 1:13:46Speaker 1: do think it is. It is hard to kind of
- 1:13:48Speaker 1: try to put your best foot forward and also keep
- 1:13:50Speaker 1: some stuff in the holster for later. But yeah, it's
- 1:13:55Speaker 1: it's an interesting scene of how this kind of these
- 1:13:58Speaker 1: regular season games of the Chiefs have kind of gone.
- 1:14:00Speaker 1: I think the first regular season game after they lost
- 1:14:03Speaker 1: in the AFC Championship was a big one because you
- 1:14:05Speaker 1: had lost in the regular season previously to the Chiefs,
- 1:14:07Speaker 1: then you lose the AFC Championship, and then getting that
- 1:14:10Speaker 1: regular season win was like, Okay, you know you've shown
- 1:14:12Speaker 1: you can beat the Chiefs. Now kind of move forward.
- 1:14:14Speaker 1: But then having these playoff losses continue. I think it's
- 1:14:18Speaker 1: put into a point from like I don't think the
- 1:14:21Speaker 1: wins or losses mean too much. If anything, I think
- 1:14:25Speaker 1: a loss or the Bills might hurt a little more
- 1:14:27Speaker 1: because if you take into account, like the Chiefs are
- 1:14:30Speaker 1: probably keeping some stuff in the holster, and they still
- 1:14:32Speaker 1: beat you knowing that they were keeping some stuff in
- 1:14:34Speaker 1: the holster, like, maybe that bothers you a little bit more.
- 1:14:38Speaker 1: It hurts you a little bit. But yeah, I think
- 1:14:41Speaker 1: this is really interesting just from me. I'm looking at
- 1:14:43Speaker 1: this purely from a logistical perspective. I know it's the Chiefs,
- 1:14:45Speaker 1: and so it is ratcheted up a little bit, and
- 1:14:48Speaker 1: you know, amped up a little bit more, I will say,
- 1:14:52Speaker 1: but I'm looking I'm personally looking at this game purely
- 1:14:54Speaker 1: from a logistical standpoint of it's against an AFC opponent.
- 1:14:58Speaker 1: It is, again, you know, a team that you're fighting
- 1:15:01Speaker 1: for for the one seed. Other than that, I'm not
- 1:15:03Speaker 1: putting too much stock in it the value of the
- 1:15:05Speaker 1: win or what it means going forward for either team.
- 1:15:08Speaker 1: I think both teams are looking at it logistically. I
- 1:15:10Speaker 1: think most fans are looking at it logistically as well, potentially.
- 1:15:13Speaker 1: But that was a really good question in common, Richie.
- 1:15:15Speaker 1: I like that, and I like your comment here saying
- 1:15:17Speaker 1: playing the Chiefs is far more mental at this point. Yeah, man,
- 1:15:20Speaker 1: it's it is tough. It is really tough, like and
- 1:15:22Speaker 1: that's so tough. You gotta beat them on the field
- 1:15:24Speaker 1: physically and execute, but they're also like kind of fighting
- 1:15:27Speaker 1: shadows and ghosts in your head. Yeah, it's tough. Man.
- 1:15:29Speaker 1: Grab this coming from Zach, who's saying, always enjoy this
- 1:15:32Speaker 1: conversation you have with Maddie as a Chiefs fan. That's awesome.
- 1:15:35Speaker 1: Apreciate you to Zach, and Zach says, do you think
- 1:15:37Speaker 1: that the Bills also keep some things back since the
- 1:15:40Speaker 1: AFC East is not as tight as it has been
- 1:15:42Speaker 1: in previous years. Yeah, I do think that's a really
- 1:15:45Speaker 1: good question, like do they start to do that? I
- 1:15:47Speaker 1: think it comes down to how much how comfortable do
- 1:15:52Speaker 1: they feel winning the AFC East and just getting to
- 1:15:55Speaker 1: the playoffs versus trying to, you know, keep the two
- 1:16:00Speaker 1: or the three seed, because if you are the two
- 1:16:01Speaker 1: or the three and the Chiefs are the one, you
- 1:16:04Speaker 1: pretty much guarantee you're not seeing the Chiefs until the
- 1:16:08Speaker 1: AFC Championship. Obviously, you'd rather probably rather be the two
- 1:16:11Speaker 1: of them three because then you have home field advantage
- 1:16:13Speaker 1: to the first two rounds until you potentially play the
- 1:16:15Speaker 1: Chiefs in the third. So it kind of the AFC
- 1:16:20Speaker 1: East race that the Bills are running away with. That
- 1:16:22Speaker 1: that's all well and good, but I think it factors
- 1:16:24Speaker 1: into a little more of the conversation of where are
- 1:16:27Speaker 1: they trying to get. From a seating perspective, I think
- 1:16:29Speaker 1: every team, just as a general rule of thumb, wants
- 1:16:32Speaker 1: to win without having to exhaust everything from their playbook
- 1:16:36Speaker 1: or everything, you know, without having to you know, fire
- 1:16:38Speaker 1: all the bullets from the chamber. Like I don't think
- 1:16:40Speaker 1: any team wants to empty the clip until playoff time
- 1:16:43Speaker 1: until they absolutely have to, so I too, I do
- 1:16:45Speaker 1: think teams kind of keep some things close to the
- 1:16:47Speaker 1: vest and only release things as necessary. But I think
- 1:16:51Speaker 1: the amount of things they release or when is really
- 1:16:55Speaker 1: determined by what you're trying to do. From a playoff perspective,
- 1:16:57Speaker 1: I think that again the Chiefs to just use them
- 1:16:59Speaker 1: because they're play him in this game. There's the road
- 1:17:02Speaker 1: that they have walked and succeeded on the past couple
- 1:17:06Speaker 1: of years. Every the teams that they faced the road
- 1:17:10Speaker 1: home all these pieces, right, I think they're in a
- 1:17:13Speaker 1: spot where they're like, we just want to get to
- 1:17:15Speaker 1: the playoffs. We don't care if we're the one you know,
- 1:17:16Speaker 1: we'd like to be the one, but if we're not, okay,
- 1:17:19Speaker 1: like if we don't win the division, Okay, we know
- 1:17:20Speaker 1: we can kind of beat we can win as many
- 1:17:22Speaker 1: games as we need to and get there. So they
- 1:17:24Speaker 1: think they're probably in a better spot to keep more
- 1:17:27Speaker 1: things close to the vest versus the bills. Maybe, you know,
- 1:17:30Speaker 1: how much do they want that two seat or that
- 1:17:32Speaker 1: one or that three seat? How important is the seating aspect,
- 1:17:35Speaker 1: and then how much do they have to shoot to
- 1:17:37Speaker 1: get there and kind of empty the chamber a little bit.
- 1:17:38Speaker 1: But I think that's a really good question. I think
- 1:17:40Speaker 1: it's a great question, and in general, I tying back
- 1:17:42Speaker 1: to Ken Dorsey last year, I remember, you know, before
- 1:17:46Speaker 1: he got fired, it was like, well he's still not
- 1:17:48Speaker 1: leaning into the Josh Allen run game. How come he's
- 1:17:50Speaker 1: not running Allen. I still believe that he was saving
- 1:17:53Speaker 1: that until down the stretch, until the playoffs. And that's
- 1:17:55Speaker 1: a really good example, right, he got fired before he
- 1:17:58Speaker 1: was able to fully unleash that part, and so he
- 1:18:00Speaker 1: was sitting there thinking, you know, I'm gonna keep this
- 1:18:03Speaker 1: in my back pocket until I need it, and he
- 1:18:05Speaker 1: never got to that time when he needed it. That's
- 1:18:08Speaker 1: also a good balance too, right If you again, it
- 1:18:11Speaker 1: comes back to how much do you need to show
- 1:18:13Speaker 1: to get these wins. I think most teams want to
- 1:18:15Speaker 1: keep things as close to the best as they can.
- 1:18:17Speaker 1: It's just a matter of if you can consistently win
- 1:18:20Speaker 1: by doing that. You don't want to get to the
- 1:18:21Speaker 1: point of being like, you know what, you know, we're
- 1:18:23Speaker 1: we're not going to do this in the regular season
- 1:18:25Speaker 1: because we're saving it for the playoffs, and then you
- 1:18:28Speaker 1: doing that torpedoes your playoff hopes and playoff chances because
- 1:18:33Speaker 1: of your performance in the regular season, because of what happens.
- 1:18:35Speaker 1: So it's it's a fine line. But I do think
- 1:18:37Speaker 1: they will kind of keep some things back. I think
- 1:18:40Speaker 1: it's a different mindset. But that's a really good question.
- 1:18:42Speaker 1: I like that. I like that.
- 1:18:43Speaker 3: I like that.
- 1:18:44Speaker 1: I like that. Oh this is so Kenneth here is
- 1:18:49Speaker 1: the chief saying this is time endo Ricky Richie's comment
- 1:18:51Speaker 1: from earlier, Kenna says, we don't care who the other
- 1:18:53Speaker 1: team is missing when the Chiefs are missing so many people.
- 1:18:55Speaker 1: That's a good part too. I think I think the
- 1:18:59Speaker 1: chief have been banged up every I think every fan
- 1:19:02Speaker 1: base is going to argue like war, injuries are worse
- 1:19:04Speaker 1: or no, ours are worse and we have more. Yeah,
- 1:19:06Speaker 1: but the players that are hurt for us are better
- 1:19:07Speaker 1: at stuff. But yeah, the Chiefs are banged up in
- 1:19:09Speaker 1: a variety is waste well but potentially getting healthier with
- 1:19:11Speaker 1: Pa Checko his window opening up, and AMENI hughes window
- 1:19:14Speaker 1: opening up as well. Zach with another question saying, what
- 1:19:17Speaker 1: is y'all's confidence level in Joe Brady against the Chiefs
- 1:19:19Speaker 1: team versus how you felt with Dorsey and Dable. I
- 1:19:23Speaker 1: feel good with with Brady. I liked this game plan
- 1:19:25Speaker 1: last year in the playoffs. I think he took what
- 1:19:28Speaker 1: was available. I thought the Bills moved the ball well.
- 1:19:30Speaker 1: I think if the Bills are a little bit healthier
- 1:19:32Speaker 1: last year on defense, that game legitimately could have gone
- 1:19:35Speaker 1: another way. It was like Rasoul Douglas is playing on
- 1:19:38Speaker 1: one leg. No Christian Benford, obviously, no Matt Milano. You
- 1:19:42Speaker 1: know just how banged up they were all across the
- 1:19:45Speaker 1: board day. Kuon is back, but his pack wasn't one
- 1:19:48Speaker 1: hundred percent. I think mentioned no ben So, no Benford,
- 1:19:50Speaker 1: no Bernard, no Milano. Douglas is playing on one leg.
- 1:19:53Speaker 1: You know, Von Miller was starting to ratchet it up
- 1:19:56Speaker 1: a little bit but still now looking great like they
- 1:19:58Speaker 1: were so hurt. I think that could have been different
- 1:20:01Speaker 1: last year, and I think that ties into how well
- 1:20:03Speaker 1: how good the game plan was against Kansas City. Granted,
- 1:20:06Speaker 1: you know, Alan made a ridiculous throw roll into his
- 1:20:09Speaker 1: left and hitting Shakir in the front the front pile
- 1:20:11Speaker 1: on there, but I think Brady had a good game
- 1:20:13Speaker 1: plan last year. I am My confidence level was similar.
- 1:20:18Speaker 1: I don't think Ken Dorsey was as bad as people
- 1:20:20Speaker 1: make him out to be, and I think Brian Dabele
- 1:20:22Speaker 1: was tremendous. So I think I'm confident in Brady similar
- 1:20:28Speaker 1: to how I was for Dabel and Dorsey. Dable was
- 1:20:32Speaker 1: probably the top. I a kind of put that in there,
- 1:20:36Speaker 1: just from his experience and how he ran things. But
- 1:20:39Speaker 1: I am confident in Brady just off of how he's operated.
- 1:20:42Speaker 1: Dabele would probably be tops for me. Brady and Dorsey
- 1:20:47Speaker 1: are close. I think Brady's good. I don't think he's
- 1:20:51Speaker 1: the second coming like so many people think he is.
- 1:20:54Speaker 1: I thought Dorsey had his works, but I don't think
- 1:20:56Speaker 1: he was as bad as a lot of people think
- 1:20:57Speaker 1: he was, or kind of all the blame that they
- 1:20:59Speaker 1: put in feet. But that's a really good question. I
- 1:21:01Speaker 1: like that. I like that. I like that. I like that.
- 1:21:03Speaker 1: So a fun activity I want to bring up for
- 1:21:05Speaker 1: the chat real quick as we start to bring in
- 1:21:08Speaker 1: some more comments and thoughts here, I wanted to share
- 1:21:12Speaker 1: this graphic and get some thoughts. We know we don't
- 1:21:17Speaker 1: do predictions on the show, but especially because there's a
- 1:21:19Speaker 1: bunch of Chiefs fans in here, I thought this would
- 1:21:20Speaker 1: be a fun opportunity. What do you folks stick the
- 1:21:23Speaker 1: score is going to be in this game? Obviously tied
- 1:21:27Speaker 1: to this graphic from our friends at bet us, but
- 1:21:30Speaker 1: just you know, from your perspective, who wins this game?
- 1:21:34Speaker 1: What's the score? I know we still got some Chief
- 1:21:36Speaker 1: fans in here, and obviously a bunch of Bills fans
- 1:21:37Speaker 1: here as well as we you know, we're gonna continue
- 1:21:39Speaker 1: having some more conversation on the show, but I wanted
- 1:21:41Speaker 1: to pull this up and gauge some of your thoughts.
- 1:21:43Speaker 1: So if you are, oh, Richie says twenty four to
- 1:21:47Speaker 1: twenty Bills, Zacha is twenty three to twenty two and
- 1:21:50Speaker 1: a half. I like that. I like that a lot. Yeah,
- 1:21:53Speaker 1: what's the what's the score here. I'm interested to kind
- 1:21:56Speaker 1: of see the confidence level in everyone here and also
- 1:21:59Speaker 1: just terms of what the score is going to be, like,
- 1:22:03Speaker 1: are you thinking it's gonna be bills? Are you thinking
- 1:22:05Speaker 1: it's going to be cheap? But also how high scoring
- 1:22:07Speaker 1: do you think it is? I, as you know, I
- 1:22:09Speaker 1: don't ever predict anything, but I do think it will
- 1:22:12Speaker 1: be a closer, low scoring affair. I'm thinking more twenty three,
- 1:22:15Speaker 1: twenty twenty four to twenty one, twenty seven to twenty three,
- 1:22:18Speaker 1: something like that. Yeah, I really think it's going to
- 1:22:23Speaker 1: be hard for either team to kind of light up
- 1:22:25Speaker 1: the other one potentially, and you know, saying that it'll
- 1:22:27Speaker 1: end up being like fifty five to forty eight or
- 1:22:29Speaker 1: something crazy. Again this graphic, I'm seeing all the comments
- 1:22:32Speaker 1: come through. I'm gonna start to read them in a bit.
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- 1:23:15Speaker 1: these scores now, okay. So RJ says thirty seven thirty
- 1:23:20Speaker 1: to seventeen chiefs. I think this will be an ugly one.
- 1:23:23Speaker 1: Kenneth says twenty four to twenty one bills. Probably, I
- 1:23:26Speaker 1: expect an absolute slugfest. Ooh, that's very interesting. I like that.
- 1:23:30Speaker 1: I like that. Zach says twenty seven to twenty four chiefs.
- 1:23:33Speaker 1: Ess says twenty one seventeen bills. Chief Kelsey says chiefs
- 1:23:37Speaker 1: thirty one bills, twenty three. Am Ed says thirty to
- 1:23:41Speaker 1: thirteen bills. I think the pocket will be hell for mahomes, okay.
- 1:23:46Speaker 1: Kate Morri says three to two. Score a ganbi. I
- 1:23:49Speaker 1: like that, okay, Sesspinarcay, and I can't predict without knowing
- 1:23:51Speaker 1: who is playing wide receiver one and tight end one
- 1:23:54Speaker 1: for the Bills. I like this from Kenneth saying, whoever
- 1:23:56Speaker 1: has the ball last probably wins. I think that's actually
- 1:23:59Speaker 1: pretty fair. Ioders is twenty six twenty four Bills. Oh,
- 1:24:02Speaker 1: I like that. I like that. And then Zach coming
- 1:24:04Speaker 1: through and say, in all seriousness, score is twenty three
- 1:24:07Speaker 1: twenty bass takes last year's playoff miss the heart and
- 1:24:10Speaker 1: it kicks a sixty seven yard field goal.
- 1:24:11Speaker 2: Oh.
- 1:24:11Speaker 1: I like this for James saying, Josh, it's Alec Anderson
- 1:24:14Speaker 1: for a game winning touchdown to win with thirteen seconds left. Oh,
- 1:24:17Speaker 1: too soon on the thirteen seconds Still too soon? I
- 1:24:20Speaker 1: like that. I like that. Well, then that's a fun graphic.
- 1:24:23Speaker 1: And think you know all your folks for participating and
- 1:24:25Speaker 1: playing it home. Yeah, I think this one's really really
- 1:24:29Speaker 1: interesting game. You know, as we kind of put a
- 1:24:32Speaker 1: bow on this conversation, I and you know, oh, or hey,
- 1:24:35Speaker 1: I see you there with thirty one twenty eight bills. Okay, okay, yeah,
- 1:24:40Speaker 1: I I'm not putting too much stock in it one
- 1:24:42Speaker 1: way or the other. I Bill's games versus the Chiefs
- 1:24:47Speaker 1: at this point, now I have to see it in
- 1:24:49Speaker 1: the playoffs. And I hate saying that, but you know
- 1:24:51Speaker 1: the old Rick Flair ad age, r J. If you're
- 1:24:53Speaker 1: still here in the chat, you know, you know Rick Flair,
- 1:24:55Speaker 1: to be the man, you gotta beat the man. And
- 1:24:57Speaker 1: oh there's Daniel saying Bill's win twenty four to twenty
- 1:24:59Speaker 1: three basket it's the game winner at the end. I
- 1:25:01Speaker 1: like that. You know, to be the man, you got
- 1:25:03Speaker 1: to beat the man. And the Bills have beat the
- 1:25:06Speaker 1: man in the regular season, but they haven't in the playoffs.
- 1:25:08Speaker 1: And I think, oh, we'll say and the Bills will
- 1:25:11Speaker 1: win the regular season game every year. It's what sets
- 1:25:13Speaker 1: up the playoff collapse. I think last year's loss was
- 1:25:18Speaker 1: probably nice, RJ. With the WU in the comments, it's
- 1:25:20Speaker 1: oh nice Zach Woo end quote. I think last year'ss
- 1:25:24Speaker 1: probably kind of reinforced that even more. The last time
- 1:25:27Speaker 1: I mentioned this to Matt earlier, right, the last bit
- 1:25:30Speaker 1: that I think Bills fans or non Chiefs fans were
- 1:25:34Speaker 1: hanging on to was well, they always have home field advantage.
- 1:25:37Speaker 1: They always have home field advantage they didn't last year,
- 1:25:40Speaker 1: and they went into Buffalo and got the win. They
- 1:25:42Speaker 1: went into Baltimore and got the win. And I know
- 1:25:44Speaker 1: neither of those wins were completely convincing. I know the
- 1:25:47Speaker 1: Bills were super banged up defensively in a lot of ways.
- 1:25:50Speaker 1: And I know Baltimore, you know, Lamar was banged up,
- 1:25:53Speaker 1: and the you know, Ravens had some stupid turnovers in
- 1:25:55Speaker 1: that game and some ridiculously fluky, kind of lucky plays,
- 1:25:58Speaker 1: you know, however you want to break it down. But
- 1:26:01Speaker 1: the chief still did the thing that they've done pretty
- 1:26:04Speaker 1: much every other year, which is go to the Super
- 1:26:09Speaker 1: Bowl as the AFC representative and then win the Super Bowl.
- 1:26:12Speaker 1: Last year I think was their last little shred of like, Okay,
- 1:26:16Speaker 1: this year can be different, I think right now. Like
- 1:26:18Speaker 1: I so last year, I was like seventy percent in
- 1:26:20Speaker 1: the camp of like, until they beat him in the playoffs,
- 1:26:23Speaker 1: I can't predict that they're going to like kind of
- 1:26:25Speaker 1: get over that hurt him. But then in the back
- 1:26:27Speaker 1: of my mind there was that thirty percent of like, well,
- 1:26:28Speaker 1: you know, the Chiefs haven't played on the road. Maybe
- 1:26:30Speaker 1: if the Bills get him in Buffalo, we can see
- 1:26:32Speaker 1: what happens. That went out the window for me last year.
- 1:26:34Speaker 1: So this game is purely logistical for me when it
- 1:26:37Speaker 1: comes to seeding, when it comes to a win versus
- 1:26:41Speaker 1: a loss, it is the difference between being you know,
- 1:26:44Speaker 1: nine and two or eight and three and having another
- 1:26:46Speaker 1: loss against the AFC. And then also too then also
- 1:26:50Speaker 1: let's talk about from like a larger perspective as well.
- 1:26:54Speaker 1: Not the national narratives matter, but how much does that
- 1:26:56Speaker 1: national narrative potentially change a little bit for this Bills team.
- 1:26:59Speaker 1: Your three losses would then come to the Ravens, the Texans,
- 1:27:03Speaker 1: and the Chiefs. So the three best teams that you played,
- 1:27:06Speaker 1: you lost to all three of them. I know the
- 1:27:08Speaker 1: Cardinals are starting to really, you know, start rolling a
- 1:27:11Speaker 1: little bit like who is the who is the Bill's
- 1:27:13Speaker 1: best win on paper? Right now? I think that conversation
- 1:27:17Speaker 1: starts to open itself up a little bit. So if
- 1:27:19Speaker 1: they've got three losses, maybe that changes national narratives or
- 1:27:22Speaker 1: opens themselves up to certain conversations. Not that that matters
- 1:27:25Speaker 1: for everyone or to the team, but does that open
- 1:27:27Speaker 1: things a little bit. And then also just now you've
- 1:27:30Speaker 1: hurt yourself further for tiebreakers with Baltimore with Houston with
- 1:27:35Speaker 1: Kansas City. Because you've lost the head to head to
- 1:27:37Speaker 1: Baltimore and Houston and to Kansas City. You've got three losses,
- 1:27:40Speaker 1: all of them are in the AFC. So I'm looking
- 1:27:43Speaker 1: at this game purely from a logistical perspective. This game
- 1:27:45Speaker 1: doesn't move the needle for me in terms of if
- 1:27:47Speaker 1: they win, I think they're finally gonna be able to
- 1:27:51Speaker 1: you know this, even if they come out and stop
- 1:27:53Speaker 1: Kansas City. If they beat Kansas City forty seven to
- 1:27:57Speaker 1: three in this game, I do not care like I care.
- 1:28:00Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, cool, you know your one game behind
- 1:28:02Speaker 1: the Chiefs and the lost column, that one seed is
- 1:28:04Speaker 1: still very viable. Cool, that's awesome. You don't have another
- 1:28:06Speaker 1: AFC loss. That's awesome. Cool, But it doesn't move the
- 1:28:10Speaker 1: needle for me kind of in terms of being like,
- 1:28:12Speaker 1: you know what, they stopped them forty seven to three,
- 1:28:15Speaker 1: that means this is gonna be the year they're going
- 1:28:16Speaker 1: to do in the playoffs. Until they actually do it
- 1:28:18Speaker 1: in the playoffs, I refuse to get on that boat.
- 1:28:21Speaker 1: I have to see proof of concept. I have to
- 1:28:23Speaker 1: see proof of life before being able to kind of
- 1:28:25Speaker 1: get there to a little bit. Zach coming in saying
- 1:28:27Speaker 1: Dolphins fans are saying who have you beat? Which is
- 1:28:30Speaker 1: very ironic. Man, Dolphins fans are just I don't think
- 1:28:34Speaker 1: any fan base is perfect. There's a lot of fans
- 1:28:36Speaker 1: that kind of are out there, and I think most
- 1:28:38Speaker 1: fan bases are more similar than they are different. But yeah,
- 1:28:40Speaker 1: that's super ironic and super fat funny. I should say
- 1:28:43Speaker 1: I combined funny and bad and said fat. I like
- 1:28:46Speaker 1: this from Zach too, saying Baltimore decided not to run
- 1:28:48Speaker 1: the ball when it was working. That's the mental aspect
- 1:28:50Speaker 1: on facing the Chiefs. Yeah, they kind of sicked themselves out,
- 1:28:51Speaker 1: didn't run the ball. Lamarv's a little banged up, couldn't
- 1:28:54Speaker 1: run himself. Wild wild woud oh areg saying one day,
- 1:28:58Speaker 1: I'll have to tell you my Rick Flair story. It's
- 1:28:59Speaker 1: actually safe for surprisingly DM me that story. I want
- 1:29:01Speaker 1: to hear that story. Don't sell it here, but I
- 1:29:03Speaker 1: want to hear that story for sure. Yeah, it's gonna
- 1:29:06Speaker 1: be I think this game is gonna be fun, though,
- 1:29:08Speaker 1: I do think it's gonna be close. Like a lot
- 1:29:10Speaker 1: of you said in the chat when it came to
- 1:29:12Speaker 1: predicting the score, line and tying in with our bet
- 1:29:14Speaker 1: US graphic there. So I do think this is gonna
- 1:29:16Speaker 1: be a close game. I don't think it's gonna be
- 1:29:18Speaker 1: too high scoring. This Chiefs defense is really good, like
- 1:29:21Speaker 1: Matt said, they do have some vulnerabilities, you know, especially
- 1:29:24Speaker 1: that corner two spot, and like I mentioned, the the
- 1:29:28Speaker 1: way they play defense and how attack minded they are
- 1:29:31Speaker 1: and how aggressive they are, combined with their creativity, that
- 1:29:34Speaker 1: can work against them potentially a little bit. There will
- 1:29:37Speaker 1: be spaces, there will be voids and areas of opportunities
- 1:29:39Speaker 1: to attack and coverage. But can your protection hold up
- 1:29:43Speaker 1: long enough to hit those voids? Can your quarterback find
- 1:29:48Speaker 1: those voids? Can your guys get to them? All that
- 1:29:50Speaker 1: kind of stuff. It really is like a game. I
- 1:29:52Speaker 1: was talking about this with Daniel Harms earlier today, who
- 1:29:56Speaker 1: is a really great follow on Twitter, does chief stuff,
- 1:29:59Speaker 1: also does stuff for the Draft Network, really great scout
- 1:30:01Speaker 1: scout and football mind who knows the stuff in exce's
- 1:30:03Speaker 1: and o's. We were talking about on the DMS earlier today.
- 1:30:06Speaker 1: Any Kenna says it here like the Chiefs defense has
- 1:30:08Speaker 1: been weaker since the Watson injury one hundred percent ja
- 1:30:10Speaker 1: Like Matt said, Jayalen Watson was playing really good ball.
- 1:30:13Speaker 1: I do think like the Chiefs defense with Spags is
- 1:30:16Speaker 1: very much you know, can we get you before you
- 1:30:19Speaker 1: get us? And it just happens to me more often
- 1:30:20Speaker 1: than not Spags gets you before he gets got. But
- 1:30:24Speaker 1: if you can just you know, kind of gum up
- 1:30:26Speaker 1: their pressures a little bit, if you can just hold
- 1:30:28Speaker 1: on to the ball enough, there are spaces there, and
- 1:30:32Speaker 1: it's varying. You can attack the flats, you can attack
- 1:30:34Speaker 1: the middle. You know they're showing sixth the line and
- 1:30:36Speaker 1: they'll drop a couple of defensive tackles and then rush
- 1:30:39Speaker 1: some non traditional rushers. There are spots to hit, but
- 1:30:42Speaker 1: it's a matter of can your protection hold up. Are
- 1:30:45Speaker 1: you in enough of a non known passing situation or
- 1:30:48Speaker 1: true dropback situation where they can't just tee off and
- 1:30:51Speaker 1: dictate your protection to you and attack your protection and
- 1:30:54Speaker 1: make you vulnerable. There's so much of the chess match
- 1:30:58Speaker 1: aspect that I think makes this game so fun and
- 1:31:01Speaker 1: so interesting. I do like the matchup of like, yeah,
- 1:31:03Speaker 1: can you get Dawson Knox or Dalton k Kate if
- 1:31:06Speaker 1: he's healthy and if he plays, and if he plays,
- 1:31:07Speaker 1: how healthy is he you know, can you get your
- 1:31:09Speaker 1: tight ends on Nick Bolt? You know he is. I
- 1:31:11Speaker 1: still he's improved in coverage is the years have gone on,
- 1:31:13Speaker 1: especially since he came out of Missouri. But he's more
- 1:31:16Speaker 1: of a run stopping linebacker. Can you kind of take
- 1:31:19Speaker 1: him a little bit? Can you attack him a little bit?
- 1:31:21Speaker 1: I do think there are some matchups to be had
- 1:31:23Speaker 1: in some space that can that can work for you. Also,
- 1:31:26Speaker 1: one last piece I wanted to mention. The run game
- 1:31:29Speaker 1: is so tremendously important to this Bill's team. Run the
- 1:31:32Speaker 1: ball at Chris Jones with regularity, and there's two ways
- 1:31:35Speaker 1: that I want that done. So I want to I
- 1:31:38Speaker 1: want to run duo and have those double teams attack
- 1:31:41Speaker 1: him left, right, and center. I want to beat him
- 1:31:43Speaker 1: up as much as possible for the entirety of the game.
- 1:31:45Speaker 1: I want to run duo right at him and then
- 1:31:48Speaker 1: the Bills run. We've talked about it on the show.
- 1:31:50Speaker 1: I've broken it down on tape, on Twitter, and here
- 1:31:52Speaker 1: on the show. Those weak side mid zone runs, right,
- 1:31:55Speaker 1: we've seen it where you have your lineman and you
- 1:31:57Speaker 1: usually got like two tight ends attached to the line
- 1:31:59Speaker 1: of scrimmager. You'll trips or a three you know, a
- 1:32:01Speaker 1: three by one set, and that three is usually away
- 1:32:06Speaker 1: from you know, Dion Dawkins will say in this example,
- 1:32:08Speaker 1: and so you've got Deon Dawkins, it's just Dawkins, and
- 1:32:11Speaker 1: then it's Edwards, and then it's McGovern it's Torrents, it's Brown,
- 1:32:15Speaker 1: and then say like three eligibles to the right of
- 1:32:17Speaker 1: Spenser Brown. They will run that mid zone run two
- 1:32:21Speaker 1: that week side, away from the three side, away from
- 1:32:23Speaker 1: the tight end side, they'll run that mid zone. And
- 1:32:26Speaker 1: when you're doing that normally just based off the alignment
- 1:32:29Speaker 1: and based off of what you have there, usually to
- 1:32:32Speaker 1: that mid zone side you are getting a one tech,
- 1:32:36Speaker 1: which means because teams are usually going to put their
- 1:32:38Speaker 1: three tech to the strong side, which is going to
- 1:32:40Speaker 1: be that you know three side of three by one.
- 1:32:42Speaker 1: So if you're running to the one side that week
- 1:32:45Speaker 1: side with the mid zone and again mid zone runs,
- 1:32:48Speaker 1: aiming point is usually the inside leg of the offensive
- 1:32:50Speaker 1: tackle or kind of the butt of the offensive tackle.
- 1:32:53Speaker 1: When you're running into that week side, you probably have
- 1:32:55Speaker 1: a one tech to that side, So Chris Jones is
- 1:32:59Speaker 1: going to be on that wrong side. Usually on that
- 1:33:01Speaker 1: strong side, you're getting a double team working on there.
- 1:33:06Speaker 1: Give me week, you know, mid zone week to the
- 1:33:09Speaker 1: left side to the Dion Dawkins side, so I can
- 1:33:11Speaker 1: have O Cyrus Torrants and Spencer Brown double team and
- 1:33:14Speaker 1: beat up Chris Jones as much as physically possible, and
- 1:33:18Speaker 1: then run duo to that right side. Again, give me
- 1:33:21Speaker 1: double team blocks with Spencer Brown and O Cyrus Torans
- 1:33:23Speaker 1: as much as possible. Chris Chris Jones is one of
- 1:33:25Speaker 1: the best still game wreckers in all of football. He's quick,
- 1:33:30Speaker 1: he's athletic, he has tremendous hand usage, he's smart. They
- 1:33:33Speaker 1: line him up all over the place too, Like they'll
- 1:33:35Speaker 1: put him on the interior. They'll line them up, you know,
- 1:33:38Speaker 1: in like a wide in a wide alignment to attack
- 1:33:40Speaker 1: the offensive tackle. They'll line them up in like a
- 1:33:43Speaker 1: wide nine and wide spot to go one on one
- 1:33:45Speaker 1: with a tackle. They'll line them up in a wide
- 1:33:47Speaker 1: alignment on the interior to get them kind of in
- 1:33:49Speaker 1: on an island and one on one against the guard.
- 1:33:51Speaker 1: They can do so much with him. You gotta beat
- 1:33:53Speaker 1: him up. You gotta beat the hell out of him.
- 1:33:55Speaker 1: He's tremendously talented. You are not going to stop him.
- 1:33:58Speaker 1: You are not going to erase him. You just need
- 1:34:00Speaker 1: to mitigate him. And I think you mitigate him by
- 1:34:03Speaker 1: running the football at him and beating the hell out
- 1:34:07Speaker 1: of him as much as physically possible. It's yeah. And
- 1:34:11Speaker 1: then aside from that, you're still again, you still got
- 1:34:13Speaker 1: to do with Dana and Bolton and car Loftis and
- 1:34:16Speaker 1: Chanal and Trank Will and everybody else that they rotate
- 1:34:19Speaker 1: between the second and third level and all these dudes. Ye,
- 1:34:22Speaker 1: it's still gonna be a handful. But run at Chris Jones,
- 1:34:25Speaker 1: beat the hell out of him, make him play the
- 1:34:27Speaker 1: run more than the past, and then start to go
- 1:34:29Speaker 1: play action and make him and the entire Chiefs front
- 1:34:32Speaker 1: have to play run on their way to rushing the quarterback. Yeah,
- 1:34:36Speaker 1: it's uh oh. Good comment here from Kenneth saying Wharton's
- 1:34:39Speaker 1: elevated plays allowed Spags to be more flexible with where
- 1:34:41Speaker 1: Jones lines up. Yeah, Wharton popped for me. As I
- 1:34:45Speaker 1: watched Chiefs tape this year, I kept seeing, for some reason,
- 1:34:48Speaker 1: I always reverse his number and Felix and a duque Ozama.
- 1:34:55Speaker 1: I always think he, you know, Felix is ninety eight,
- 1:34:58Speaker 1: and then I always confused and forget that Helix as
- 1:35:00Speaker 1: ninety seven and Wharton is ninety eight. Also, like why
- 1:35:02Speaker 1: would Felix be playing like on the interior like that,
- 1:35:04Speaker 1: But yeah, Wharton has done some stuff. They've got dudes
- 1:35:08Speaker 1: who can play up front, like I think Dana is
- 1:35:10Speaker 1: one of the most like unheralded players, especially from a
- 1:35:14Speaker 1: front perspective, and like how much do they get from ouch?
- 1:35:17Speaker 1: Like what can they do? But they've got a good group,
- 1:35:19Speaker 1: They've got a good squad up there, and I thin
- 1:35:21Speaker 1: hear the Bills run the ball, mix in the play action.
- 1:35:24Speaker 1: That needs to be your recipe week in and week
- 1:35:26Speaker 1: out against every single opponent if you are the Bills,
- 1:35:30Speaker 1: especially with how much their instructure passing game has you know,
- 1:35:33Speaker 1: had its challenges and struggles. We'll see what happens with
- 1:35:35Speaker 1: Keon Coleman and Amari Cooper and Dalton Kinkaid, but I
- 1:35:37Speaker 1: very much think on it on pretty much every single week.
- 1:35:40Speaker 1: The offensive formula for the Bills is run the football
- 1:35:44Speaker 1: and go play action off of it. In order to
- 1:35:46Speaker 1: I'm oversimplifying it, but having the more detailed conversation is
- 1:35:50Speaker 1: is a much longer and longer and larger conversation. But
- 1:35:53Speaker 1: run the football, go play action, and especially this week,
- 1:35:57Speaker 1: stay in third and short, stay in third and man,
- 1:36:00Speaker 1: don't let Spags get into his bag too much. Don't
- 1:36:02Speaker 1: let Chris Jones te off and just wear him down,
- 1:36:04Speaker 1: beat the hell out of him, run at him, double
- 1:36:06Speaker 1: team him as much as possible, and then make someone
- 1:36:10Speaker 1: else beat you. If carlof This goes off or Ouce
- 1:36:14Speaker 1: goes off, or Tranquil blitzes a bunch of this game
- 1:36:17Speaker 1: and has two or three sacks, like whoever, if someone
- 1:36:19Speaker 1: else beats you, you know you live with that. Or
- 1:36:22Speaker 1: if Spags is just super creative in this game in
- 1:36:25Speaker 1: terms of disguising his coverages in fronts and attacking and
- 1:36:28Speaker 1: playing on the front foot, if that all happens, cool,
- 1:36:31Speaker 1: do not lose the game because you know, Chris Jones
- 1:36:34Speaker 1: just game wrecked you because it was third and seven
- 1:36:36Speaker 1: and he just beats somebody completely, you know, in the
- 1:36:39Speaker 1: first like half second of the snap and bears down
- 1:36:42Speaker 1: on Allen and forces his hand, Like, do not let
- 1:36:44Speaker 1: Chris Jones beat you. And I know that's easier said
- 1:36:46Speaker 1: than done, but I think you know the way to
- 1:36:48Speaker 1: kind of do that is to beat him up all
- 1:36:49Speaker 1: game and run at him, make him play the run,
- 1:36:51Speaker 1: make him exhaust energy having to take on double teams
- 1:36:55Speaker 1: and have to limit displacement and trying to reduce his
- 1:36:58Speaker 1: surface area or anchoring and holding against those doubles. Make
- 1:37:01Speaker 1: him work against the run, snap after snap after snap,
- 1:37:05Speaker 1: and then go play action and make him play the
- 1:37:07Speaker 1: run on the way to the quarterback and try and
- 1:37:09Speaker 1: slow him down a little bit and allow your guys
- 1:37:11Speaker 1: to get on him early. I think first and second
- 1:37:13Speaker 1: down will be very important. Again. You gotta stay in
- 1:37:16Speaker 1: third and manageable. Do not get into these third and
- 1:37:18Speaker 1: longs where you're in more of a true dropback known
- 1:37:21Speaker 1: passing situation, which one is not good for the Bills
- 1:37:24Speaker 1: in general, but two is even more important against the
- 1:37:29Speaker 1: Spags defense with how creative he can get in those
- 1:37:31Speaker 1: third and long situations. And RJ says, isn't case great
- 1:37:35Speaker 1: against the run? They are very good against the run.
- 1:37:37Speaker 1: Where are yeah? They are? Where? Oh that's the offense.
- 1:37:45Speaker 1: There we go, there's the defense for the Chiefs. They
- 1:37:47Speaker 1: are fourth overall in defensive DBOA, ninth against the pass,
- 1:37:51Speaker 1: third against the run. They're eleventh overall on EPA per play,
- 1:37:55Speaker 1: thirteenth in EPA per pass, fourth in e PA per run,
- 1:38:00Speaker 1: we're all there, sixteenth in success rate, twenty seventh in
- 1:38:04Speaker 1: passing success rate, third in rushing success rate. So yeah,
- 1:38:08Speaker 1: they overall there're still a good defense, but they are
- 1:38:12Speaker 1: very good against the run, which is another element I
- 1:38:13Speaker 1: thought of making. That was actually my fourth point, like Ken,
- 1:38:16Speaker 1: you run the ball against the Chiefs just given what
- 1:38:19Speaker 1: they've done, And I think another element, like you know,
- 1:38:21Speaker 1: again I talked about with Matt, how do you choose
- 1:38:24Speaker 1: to run it against them? Because they can go into
- 1:38:26Speaker 1: base with three linebackers and be fine, or they can
- 1:38:29Speaker 1: just stay in their nickel with Connor as that third
- 1:38:31Speaker 1: safety and that big nickel and play in the slot
- 1:38:34Speaker 1: and still kind of be okay if you go eleven
- 1:38:37Speaker 1: or if you go twelve, or if you go thirteen.
- 1:38:39Speaker 1: So yeah, it's definitely going to be a challenge for
- 1:38:42Speaker 1: them regardless it. But it's gonna be a fun game
- 1:38:44Speaker 1: and an exciting game, and I'm very excited for it.
- 1:38:45Speaker 1: I have more thoughts and more points and pieces that
- 1:38:48Speaker 1: I will be breaking down and showing on Twitter as
- 1:38:50Speaker 1: the weeks go along. So if you have anything that
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