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Three Booms and a Hmmm? · Made of Stars

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  Speaker 1: Warning. The following podcast contains an entertaining look at astronomy, physics,
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: When made of stars, made them stars, made sizes. When
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  Speaker 3: New Mexicomus where all stars?
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  Speaker 4: When we are made of stars. I'm Wes Carol, joined
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  Speaker 4: by my good friend. Doctor Sean is an executive director
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  Speaker 4: at Columbus State University's Coca Cola Space Science Center.
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  Speaker 2: Hey Sean, Hey Wes, good to be here today.
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  Speaker 4: We have I think we've described this as three big
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  Speaker 4: booms and a hmm, because we don't I mean, the
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  Speaker 4: the last story we have, or one of the last stories.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's currently slotted in the in the last spot,
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  Speaker 4: but we don't really know what happened, So I mean,
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  Speaker 4: it's possible there's a boom involved, but we don't know,
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  Speaker 4: all right. It's kind of one of those open ended things,
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  Speaker 4: isn't it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure if it's a boom or a bang,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and and then maybe you know you have
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  Speaker 2: to throw in that there's no sound in space question.
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  Speaker 2: So or I could see what that one, how that
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  Speaker 2: one flushes out, or it could just.
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  Speaker 4: Be a limp ending. I mean, any of these things
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  Speaker 4: is possible. Uh, we have to start though. I remember
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  Speaker 4: after we had recorded last week. I remember being at
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  Speaker 4: the gym at one point and uh seeing what I thought.
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  Speaker 4: I was at the gym, I've got my phone. I'm
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  Speaker 4: looking at my phone and kind of out of the
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  Speaker 4: corner of my eye, up on the TVs that they have,
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  Speaker 4: you know, on all the different you know, every third
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  Speaker 4: TV is like a certain channel or whatever they're set up,
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  Speaker 4: and I can see over multiple TVs a giant explosion
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  Speaker 4: and I thought, oh, they're talking about SpaceX. Like I thought,
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  Speaker 4: this is we're talking about the the BFR that exploded
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  Speaker 4: as it was coming down, and we had just talked
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  Speaker 4: about that on last week's show. So I thought, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: well they're showing that again. I'm like, that looks different.
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  Speaker 4: That doesn't look like the same one. And then I
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  Speaker 4: realized it's I see blue origin on the screen and
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  Speaker 4: I was like, oh no, this just happened like this
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  Speaker 4: is fresh, brand new story. Blue Origin had a new
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  Speaker 4: Glen rocket explode, and I guess maybe following in the
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  Speaker 4: footsteps of SpaceX, I blew a part of their lawncha.
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  Speaker 4: So you know, SpaceX is like, we've been there, We've
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  Speaker 4: done that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So a couple of things about that. First of all,
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  Speaker 2: doesn't the news media just love showing SpaceX rockets blowing
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  Speaker 2: up over and over again?
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  Speaker 4: They do.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's a side point.
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  Speaker 4: The fact that I was just thinking that that's what
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  Speaker 4: it was, and it had been, you know, multiple days,
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  Speaker 4: and it wasn't even a fresh story, and it just
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  Speaker 4: seemed like for like, you know, that's that's what they're doing.
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  Speaker 4: They're just showing up.
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  Speaker 2: You've been groomed for this response. Is the problem?
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  Speaker 4: That is That is the problem. And I don't remember,
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  Speaker 4: other than that morning, seeing this explosion over and over
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  Speaker 4: again on any news network. So, just for what it's worth,
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  Speaker 4: part of.
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  Speaker 2: The grooming process, in fairness to the news media, is
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  Speaker 2: that that that's kind of the way that SpaceX does things.
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  Speaker 2: We've talked about it on this show before. They employ
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  Speaker 2: a method called agile development, which means they make some changes,
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  Speaker 2: they blow something up, they figure out what went wrong,
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  Speaker 2: They make a few more changes, they blow something up,
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  Speaker 2: but they do this as quickly as possible and modify things.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe a little bit of an expensive way to do things,
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  Speaker 2: but that's it. That's the way they do things so quickly.
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  Speaker 2: So they're trading costs for time. Blue Origin Jeff Bezos
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  Speaker 2: Rocket Company not known for the same engineering process. They're
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  Speaker 2: not known for blowing things up, figuring them out, blowing
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  Speaker 2: things up again. In fact, this is kind of the
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  Speaker 2: first major mishap for Blue Origin. They've had other minor mishaps,
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  Speaker 2: but nothing on this on this scale. And quite frankly, friends,
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  Speaker 2: we're talking talking about the New Glen rocket, which, if
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  Speaker 2: you don't know the subtlety of what the New Glen
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  Speaker 2: Rocket is, that is one of the largest rockets on
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  Speaker 2: planet Earth, comparable to the Mighty Saturn five, in the
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  Speaker 2: same kind of weightlifting class as the Space Launch System SLS.
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  Speaker 2: It's a big rocket, right, so it's it's it's one
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  Speaker 2: to to potentially carry payloads to the Moon. And this
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  Speaker 2: was not a test flight for the rocket. This was simply, hey,
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  Speaker 2: let's fill it up with fuel and fire up the
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  Speaker 2: engines for a couple of seconds on the pad just
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  Speaker 2: to make sure everything's working now. The New Glen rocket
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  Speaker 2: is powered by B three DASH four first stage engines.
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  Speaker 2: This is an engine designed by Blue Origin. There's seven
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  Speaker 2: of them in their main stage. They're a combination of hydrogen, oxygen,
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  Speaker 2: and methane fuel and when they blow up, apparently they
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  Speaker 2: blow up really good, because this is the largest rocket
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  Speaker 2: explosion that has occurred on planet Earth since the Russians
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  Speaker 2: blew up their Moon rocket in testing in the nineteen sixties.
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  Speaker 2: So this is a major event in terms of if
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  Speaker 2: you're just kind of wahed the progression of rockets worldwide,
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  Speaker 2: this explosion is on that scale. So the main stage,
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  Speaker 2: or the first stage of the New Glen rocket is
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  Speaker 2: a one hundred and eighty eight foot tall first stage,
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  Speaker 2: and that caught on fire, so that was the triggering event.
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  Speaker 2: A short time later, the eighty six foot tall upper stage,
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  Speaker 2: which is being held by the lower main stage, began
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  Speaker 2: to tilt, so you could see that the rocket stage
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  Speaker 2: below was bending, warping, something beginning to collapse, and then
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  Speaker 2: the second stage or the upper stage fell in on
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  Speaker 2: the main stage, and that's when the really big boom happened.
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  Speaker 2: So the vehicle then suddenly exploded and methane fuel combined
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  Speaker 2: with liquid oxygen ignited and there was a gigantic boom.
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  Speaker 2: All of this coming from an article from cbsnews dot com,
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  Speaker 2: but the reporting is across the board on this. This
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  Speaker 2: looks like what happened. But anyway, back back to cbsnews
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  Speaker 2: dot com.
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  Speaker 4: It says it says here reported by Scott Pelly and
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  Speaker 4: a line crossed through it. I don't know what that means.
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  Speaker 2: I believe that he formally was involved with that organization.
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  Speaker 4: It seems like this says updated by someone else, So
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know what that means. It's
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  Speaker 4: weird anyway, Sorry.
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  Speaker 2: Was was the was the sixty minutes meeting the third
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  Speaker 2: largest explosion?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not sure that's true.
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  Speaker 2: That's a boom we haven't even talked about, you know,
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  Speaker 2: in the list of booms that it was a whatever
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  Speaker 2: happened in the sixty minutes you know boardroom the CBS
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  Speaker 2: needs whatever. Yeah, it's not a boardroom. It's just like
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  Speaker 2: board the other kind of board.
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  Speaker 4: Anyway, they're losing, they're losing signature stars on that network
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  Speaker 4: like for some reason, like they're just going like there
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  Speaker 4: late night and then their news and anyway whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Well okay, so so good, good transition. Unlike sixty minutes
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  Speaker 2: with the Blue Origin explosion. All person and all we're
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  Speaker 2: accounted for and safe.
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  Speaker 4: That's good, right, Blue Origin. And I feel like, especially
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  Speaker 4: since we had what happened with SpaceX and now this,
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  Speaker 4: and it's that reminder, and we say this every time
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  Speaker 4: something like this happens, rocket science is hard, right. So
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  Speaker 4: that's what all this really comes down to, and that
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  Speaker 4: when you have these companies doing everything they can to
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  Speaker 4: make sure that people are safe, we know that NASA
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  Speaker 4: is always going to be that way, and to know
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  Speaker 4: that this is also rolling over with every bit of
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  Speaker 4: caution for these private companies that are obviously wanting to
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  Speaker 4: do more work with NASA. Anyway, go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry. One of the things that we say here at
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  Speaker 2: Space Science Center a lot when we give tours of
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  Speaker 2: our Space Shuttle artifacts is this Space Shuttle was literally
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  Speaker 2: the most complicated machine ever created by humanity. And that's
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  Speaker 2: just in terms of like the number of parts on
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  Speaker 2: the vehicle. All of these parts had to function properly.
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  Speaker 2: It was the most complicated machine ever. And I'm not
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  Speaker 2: saying that Blue Origins New Glenn was as complicated as
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  Speaker 2: Space Shuttle. But it's complex. Don't get the idea that
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  Speaker 2: these rockets are simple just because those folks down in
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  Speaker 2: Boca Chica, Texas keep blowing them up and building them
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  Speaker 2: again and blowing them up. These are extraordinarily complex, extraordinarily powerful,
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  Speaker 2: and extraordinarily dangerous machines, and so spaceflight probably should just
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  Speaker 2: never ever be taken as routine. And so a routine
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  Speaker 2: launch pad test of a giant rocket is nothing nothing
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  Speaker 2: routine about that, right, So okay, So anyway, going on
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  Speaker 2: to quote our friend Jeff Bezos, who was quoted in
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  Speaker 2: the CBS News article and hashtag we're not actually friends
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  Speaker 2: of Jeff Bezos. Sorry, put that out there. The hashtag
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  Speaker 2: was not actually friends of Jeff bezels all one word.
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  Speaker 4: That should be established.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, but we cannot.
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  Speaker 4: We cannot confirm for certain that he does not listen
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  Speaker 4: to this, because he might. We don't.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying we're not friendly with Jeff Bezos. If
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  Speaker 2: you wanted to come on the show, we would be
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  Speaker 2: friendly with Jeff Bezos, but I wouldn't call us. I
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't call him a friend of the show.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I also don't have any friends whose last name
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  Speaker 4: is Limp, so I would kind of maybe we'll get
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  Speaker 4: to that in a minute too.
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  Speaker 5: So so so Jeff Bezos on a social media post
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  Speaker 5: says this all personnel are accounted for and safe, breaking
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  Speaker 5: from the quote, that's the most important thing, friends.
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  Speaker 2: That was the first thing I looked at. I saw
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  Speaker 2: that explosion, like Wes, I saw it on a news broadcast,
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  Speaker 2: went oh, what was that and then looked up the
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  Speaker 2: story went oh, my goodness, is everyone okay? So Jeff
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  Speaker 2: bezels social media, all personnel a cannon for and safe.
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  Speaker 2: Jeff's quote goes on to say, quote, it's too early
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  Speaker 2: to know the root cause, but we've already we're already
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  Speaker 2: working to find it. Very rough day, but we'll rebuild
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  Speaker 2: whatever needs rebuilding and get back to flying. It's worth it.
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  Speaker 4: There you go, it's a good exclamation worth it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So it wasn't a complete loss. I mean, damage to
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  Speaker 4: the launch pad is obviously significant, and you know, we
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  Speaker 4: we had that. We had that happen with SpaceX and
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  Speaker 4: that was a big deal. They had to get things rebuilt.
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  Speaker 4: This is a little different though, as far as getting
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  Speaker 4: this launch pad back ready to go. And we mentioned
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  Speaker 4: before you know, the FAA got involved with SpaceX. They've
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  Speaker 4: obviously gotten involved with this as well, but not a
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  Speaker 4: total loss. They were able to stay able to salvage
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  Speaker 4: some key components to this.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So first thing to note and just remember is
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  Speaker 2: that this happened at the Cape Canaveral Space Force Station, Right,
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  Speaker 2: So this is not Kennedy, It's just across the road
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  Speaker 2: from Kenedy. It's the US military side of things, Cape
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  Speaker 2: Canaval Space Force. It used to be called the Air Force,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, right, this particular operation was under the
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  Speaker 2: Air Force, is now under the Space Force, and so
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  Speaker 2: it used to be called Cape Canaval Air Force Station.
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  Speaker 2: It's now called Cape Canaveral Space Force Station. But the
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  Speaker 2: important point of me belaboring this point to death is
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  Speaker 2: it's not Jeff's launchpad. Jeff blew up someone else's launchpad.
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  Speaker 2: And when SpaceX blows up their own launchpad down in Texas,
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  Speaker 2: it's their own launch pad. So if there are delays
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  Speaker 2: in rebuilding that particular launch pad, the only people who
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  Speaker 2: are being delayed down in Texas are SpaceX. So that's
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  Speaker 2: not true with the Cape Canaveral Space Force Station. That
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  Speaker 2: is it. We'd think of it as a municipal it's
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  Speaker 2: a municipal launch. It's a federal government installation, right, so
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  Speaker 2: there are other payloads that could launch on that. However,
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  Speaker 2: the important point is the particular launch pad they blew
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  Speaker 2: up at the Cape Canaveral Space Force Station is the
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  Speaker 2: only launch pad anywhere in the world prepared to accommodate
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  Speaker 2: the New Glen rocket. And see why that's important is
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  Speaker 2: because New Glen and the Mark one Lunar Lander were
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  Speaker 2: just released a couple of weeks ago by Jared Isisagman
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  Speaker 2: as part of the broad and sweeping plan of all
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  Speaker 2: the things Artemis. They're going to take place before the
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  Speaker 2: end of this calendar year, and they were going to
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  Speaker 2: load up that Mark one lander with twinkies and toilet
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  Speaker 2: paper and supplies for the Artemis astronauts and launch it
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  Speaker 2: to the Moon in October. Well, now they don't have
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  Speaker 2: a launch pad. So the next thing that everybody had
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  Speaker 2: to figure out is how badly was the launch pad
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  Speaker 2: blown up. Well, so this is a little bit more
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  Speaker 2: recent story. The CBS story is like a week old,
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  Speaker 2: but this a new story from Physics Dot Oregon. The
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  Speaker 2: last eighteen hours come out Blue Origin says that the
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  Speaker 2: rocket explosion spared fuel tanks and other key launchpad components. Again,
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  Speaker 2: Physics dot Order, phys dot org, American Physical Society. That's
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  Speaker 2: where this article comes from. And it goes on to
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  Speaker 2: say the critical to NASA's Artemis Moon program, the Blue
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  Speaker 2: Origins massive New Glen rocket blew up during an engine
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  Speaker 2: test firing at Kate Caneveral Spaceport station. The lightning tower
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  Speaker 2: and the transporter erector used to move and hoist the
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  Speaker 2: rocket more completely destroyed in the blast that sent shockwaves
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  Speaker 2: across the state of Florida. It's a big boom, friends,
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  Speaker 2: it is a very big boom. However, the story goes
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  Speaker 2: on to say Blue Origin said Tuesday that last week's
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  Speaker 2: rocket explosion spared fuel tanks and some other critical components
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  Speaker 2: of the launch pad. Well, all right, what fuel tanks?
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  Speaker 2: Obviously not on the rocket. No, no, no, here's what happens.
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  Speaker 2: These are cryogenic fuels. They're very cold and so not
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  Speaker 2: right where the rocket is, but off to the sides.
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  Speaker 2: They have large storage tanks where they can fill them
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  Speaker 2: with cryogenic methane and cryogenic oxygen in other words, like
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  Speaker 2: liquid oxygen, liquid methane super cool down to be in
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  Speaker 2: a liquid state, so they can pump the fuel tanks
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  Speaker 2: of the rocket actually full while it's sitting on the
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  Speaker 2: launch pad. They fill the rocket. But see those super
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  Speaker 2: coold fuels. When they're sitting in the rocket and we're
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  Speaker 2: waiting to do whatever test or a launch or something,
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  Speaker 2: the fuels are evaporating off. So they have to continually
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  Speaker 2: fuel that rocket. They can't just fuel it once and
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  Speaker 2: it's good to go. It's not like filling up the
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  Speaker 2: car before you head down to the beaches of Florida.
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  Speaker 2: You have to keep filling up the rocket before you
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  Speaker 2: actually hit the big red button and push it to launch.
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  Speaker 2: So those fuel tanks are those external fuel storage tanks
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  Speaker 2: are essential to the functioning of the launch pad. Well, well,
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  Speaker 2: it looks like despite the fact that this was a
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  Speaker 2: very large boom, those fuel tanks were spared and any
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  Speaker 2: other components of the launchpad that were not obliterated are
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  Speaker 2: also helpful, right, So that's good. The CEO of Blue
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  Speaker 2: Origin is a man by the name of Dave Limp,
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  Speaker 2: and he said that the methane, hydrogen, and oxygen tanks
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  Speaker 2: all look to be in good shape at the launchpad.
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  Speaker 2: The water tank is also fine. Wait, a minute. Why
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  Speaker 2: do you need a water tank, ask SpaceX, Because if
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  Speaker 2: you don't flood the launchpad with water, the acoustics from
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  Speaker 2: those giant rocket engines, literally the sound will rip your
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  Speaker 2: launchpad to pieces. I don't know why Elon Musk a
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  Speaker 2: few years ago decided he needed to test that idea,
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  Speaker 2: but he did successfully and blew up his own launch
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  Speaker 2: pad at that time and got in all kinds of
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  Speaker 2: trouble with not only the FAA but also with the
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  Speaker 2: Environmental Protection Agency. Anyway, so the water tank at Cape
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  Speaker 2: Ernaveral Space Force Station looks to be in good shape.
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  Speaker 2: The other thing is that they have support towers that
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  Speaker 2: look like they made it through and and some other things.
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  Speaker 2: So there's there's components of the launch pad that they
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  Speaker 2: won't totally need to rebuild. This is very recent news
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  Speaker 2: coming out here just again within the last day and
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  Speaker 2: a half or so. Uh so, so the the booster
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  Speaker 2: and other rocket parts that were housed nearby were also undamaged.
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  Speaker 2: So this is kind of like, you know, some surplus supplies.
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  Speaker 2: And then Dave Limp came back to say, overall, this
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  Speaker 2: was a bit of good news, quote unquote, a bit
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  Speaker 2: of good news. We will fly again before the end.
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  Speaker 4: Of this year.
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  Speaker 2: Unquote. That's fine, that's that's optimistic. I like that. There's
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  Speaker 2: one small problem, which is they're still in under They're
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  Speaker 2: still under investigation, right There's there's an impending investigation to
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  Speaker 2: this accident, and they have to make sure they understand
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  Speaker 2: why a giant rock I could just obliterate at a
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  Speaker 2: launchpad at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station. So, Dave, I'm
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  Speaker 2: sorry that I don't share your optimism quite readily. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: hopefully that's true, but but yeah, there's there's there's still
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  Speaker 2: an investigation that needs to be done.
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  Speaker 4: I have this based on him saying that I just
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  Speaker 4: I have this and knowing that this is again not
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  Speaker 4: a launch pad that belongs to Blue Origin. So I
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  Speaker 4: just picture and I know this isn't one of those
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  Speaker 4: movies that you could reference and everybody go, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I know that movie, because you know it wasn't this
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  Speaker 4: mega hit movie. But I have this image of a
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  Speaker 4: scene late in the movie The Benchwarmers when John love
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  Speaker 4: Its' character needs to get a baseball stadium built very quickly,
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  Speaker 4: and he walks out and he says, you know, get
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  Speaker 4: it done, keep it under a billion it's all I've
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  Speaker 4: got on me, and I just have this image of
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  Speaker 4: Jeff Bezos having that moment where he says, we need
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  Speaker 4: to get this thing rebuilt right now. So I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: And then the other thing I just want to point
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  Speaker 4: out is Dave Limp. I'd like to be his friend,
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  Speaker 4: just so I could be the one person in his
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  Speaker 4: life that's his friend that if he sprains his ankle
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  Speaker 4: is not going to go there and I could take
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  Speaker 4: care of that for you, Dave, if you want to
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: hang out anyway.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: I had not heard of Dave before, so I actually
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: looked up his background. I was like, I've not heard
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: of this gentleman. So he didn't come from the Space World. Now,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying that he has to come for the
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Space World to be the CEO of a space company.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong. Don't hear what I'm not saying. However,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Dave was working over there at Amazon. He was working
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: with Jeff, but he was working on the Amazon side
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: of the fence where he oversaw the development of Alexa
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Echo and Kindall.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: Also says here that he was in charge of selling crutches. No,
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: that would be sorry. I'm sorry, Dave I went there anyway,
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: I shouldn't have done that. I'm sorry, apologies, but we're
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: not friend yet. Once we become friends, i'll knock it off.
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure Dave's coming on the show.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: He should. I think it's awesome that he's you know,
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: he's just the CEO, and you know that's that's got
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: to be a name he's been teased about.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: And I'm let me just tell you, Dave, if you
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: are listening, my last name is Cruisin and so I
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: have heard the jokes my whole life too, and I
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: always tell them, Wow, you're a comedy genius. You thought
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: of that joke. I've never heard that before. I've never
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: heard that joke before. I'm sure Dave Limp's got that
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: that in his back pocket, like oh Limp, like oh,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: like my foothurts. Oh, I see what you did there,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: comedy genius. So anyway, now, if you're.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: Trying to if you're trying to compare apples and apples here,
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: let me just point out to you the fact that
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: at no point ever did Huey Lewis sing a song
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: called Limp. So I just want to point that out
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: it's just a little bit different. You're you got at
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: least the Lewis factor going for you.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: That's all. I appreciate that there was, however.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: So that's true. But again, I mean, if I if
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: I've got to say I only get to keep one
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: of these two artists in my collection, I'll just say this,
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: I don't own the entire catalog of Limp Biscuit. How
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: about that. That's all. That's all I'll say.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: The heart of rock and roll still beating, my friend,
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: That's all I can. That's all I know.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: Indeed, it is more made of stars right after this.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: So we've covered one big boom. Let's go to another
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: big boom. And this is important because I feel like
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: this is one of those things where there's potential, there's
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: a chance. We should make sure everyone knows if you're
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: listening to this a week later or even you know,
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: two days out and going we missed it? Why why
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: didn't you text me? And I'm like, well, we do
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: talk about it on the show, but anytime we can
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: talk about Cannibal, CME's coming happening on the sun and
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: us getting this possibility for auroras even as far south
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: as I mean it happened in Puerto Rico, right, I mean,
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: that's getting pretty far south. But when there's a chance
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: that maybe we're going to get to see some pink
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: and purple hues in the sky, it's worth mentioning. So
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: maybe we could see some auroras.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: It's so listen, Wes and I understand that we basically
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: have two classes of two classes of listeners, and I
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: probably should make that three classes of listeners. The first
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: listeners is the people who are listening to other podcasts,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: so that's that's one. Second class of listener is those
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: people who will go, oh, yeah, I remember those guys
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: have a podcast, let me see what they're up to,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: and you listen to us a lot later, and that's fine.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: We we like to try to keep you entertained as well.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: But then the third class of listeners are the people
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: who actually subscribe to the podcast and the moment it drops,
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: they're they're listening. They're like, oh cool, that's an appointment listening, right,
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: thank you. And we'd like to think all all four
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: of those people in the third class all groups.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: Yes, but if you're in the group that has its
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: set to automatically download when there's an opportunity maybe to
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: see something really cool, like I don't know, one of
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: the seven Great Wonders of the natural wonders of the world.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: You might be h you know, have a heads up
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: on it, and you could tell other people and when
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: they're out walking, they're dog, hey, look check it out.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: The skies are pink. You'd be that person and they're
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: just looking at the ground, or you know, listening to
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: our podcast and I do the way that you do.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Wes Like people text me as well when these things
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: happen to go how can we need to let me know?
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: I said, I do have a podcast.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but this is unique in that, like if you're
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: listening to it, you know, on Thursday as we record it,
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: you might have a chance to be on top of
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: this for tonight and tomorrow right right.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: So the people who are actually listening in real time,
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: they're like, yeah, can you get on with it already? Okay,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: yes we will, And here it is. So friends, check
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: out spaceweather dot com because there are cannibal cme arriving
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: at Earth basically now in the next twenty four hours.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: So skywatchers in Europe and North America might see Aurora
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Borealis tonight, and if you're talking about the United States,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: we're talking about a good probability of seeing it at
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: what we would call mid latitudes. That's when we begin
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: to get interested here in the south eastern United States,
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: because some of these quote unquote mid latitude events have
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: snuck their way down to the southern United States and
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: even as west mentioned as far down as Florida and
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Puerto Rico. That happened both in May of twenty twenty
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: four and October of twenty twenty four, the tenth day
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: of each of those months, oddly enough, and so the
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: scenario that set up the Great geomagnetic Storm of May
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty four is repeating itself in the sky tonight
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: above planet Earth. And it goes like this. There's a
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: giant flare on the Sun. It shoots out a wave
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: of material called a coronal mass ejection or a CME,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: and that CME is moving rapidly toward Earth. But before
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: it can get very far, the Sun has a second
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: explosion and another giant, massive CME, and that second explosion
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: is even a little bit more powerful than the first one.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: So the sec wave of particles is moving a little
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: faster than the first one, and so it's going to
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: catch up and add its effects to the first wave
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: of charge particles leaving the Sun. And all of that
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: happens right about the Earth's orbit, in other words, about
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: that ninety three million miles away from the Sun. All
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: of a sudden, these two gigantic waves of charge radiation
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: from the Sun, approximately Mount Everest sized masses of these
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: charge particles line up and catch each other and overlap
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: right at the same time they're passing the Earth. That
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: is what a cannibal CME is. And so this cannibal
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: CME is on its way right now. The National Oceanic
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: and Atmospheric Administration is predicting that it could spark strong
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: to severe geomagnetic activity. That's a G three to G
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: four geomagnetic storm. And during the similar storms in the past,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: we've had these northern lights that have come down into
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: the mid and even the lower tiers of the United States.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: So if Wes and I didn't tell you about it,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: we wouldn't be doing our podcast duty. So that's why
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: we're here and that's why we're chatting about it. So
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: don't be surprised if you might see some glowing colors
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: even in the southeastern skies over the next twenty four
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: to forty eight hours. But really it's tonight that you
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: really want to go out and look, this is June
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: fourth into June fifth. If you're listening to us in
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: the future, future future, sorry maybe next you. I mean,
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: we try to keep you up to date. However, that
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: if you're listening in just a near future, if you're
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: in that category that West talked about, is like, oh,
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: a day later or maybe a little bit more. Well,
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: there's still a massive sunspot on the Sun that was
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: responsible for the first set of Cannibal CMEs due to
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: the flare, and that sunspot is called sunspot forty four
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: fifty five. It is something rare. It's called an anti
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: hail sunspot. The term anti hale means it has a
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: reversed magnetic polarity from the other sunspots, and so it's
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: one of these things is not like the others. And
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: so all of those sunspots are in a certain configuration
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: with their north magnetic pole one way and their south
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: magnetic pole the other way, except not forty four fifty five.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: It's reversed. And what happens when an anti hale reverse
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: polarity magnetic field sunspot group occurs. It's more unstable and
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: more explosive, so it has a lot more chances to
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: produce powerful solar flares even today and tomorrow. So we
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: could be repeating this cannibal cme phenomenon over the next
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: few days. We don't have a podcast again for another week,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: so I would say stay tuned, but don't stay tuned
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: to us. Stay tuned to spaceweather dot com. Friends, go
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: visit spaceweather dot com and you can track the evolving
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: events on the sun and sunspot forty four fifty five,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: the anti hail sunspot.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: And if you start seeing people saying, well, I'm seeing
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: it and I'm taking photos and they're posting them and
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: all of that over the next couple of days, uh,
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: and you go outside and you, I don't see anything.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: We've pointed this out before many cases. You get a
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: better look at it by taking a photo of it
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: with your phone and then you can see so pointed
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: in the direction you know, and take the picture, and
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: you may see things that you're not going to see
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: with the naked eye. So just a reminder on that.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: If we left you wondering what direction north? Yeah, these
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: are northern lights. We might see them in the south,
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: but got to look north toward Atlanta.
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: That's right. And I felt like I was saying the
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: obvious by not saying it, but yes, north, and if
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: it's you know, south, something's wrong. It's coming at the
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: wrong direction.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Or if you're seeing northern lights in the south, that
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: was a bigger cannibal see of me than any of
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: us thought.
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: You maybe some of our listeners, very loyal, dedicated listeners
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: in Australia, and then that's a whole different deal. But
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: that's not looking good for you in this case.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Uh, if you're seeing northern lights in the south from Columbus, Georgia,
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: we might segue into the next big boom story. You
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: might not be seeing northern lights. You might be seeing
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: something else entirely well, as they did in the Cape
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Cod area recently.
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: That's right, speaking of the next big boom story. Yeah,
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: so this is a big I don't know how this
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: one dodged me. Usually these stories I'm on top of,
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: I didn't. I wasn't aware of this one until you
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: told me about it this morning.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Well, people were just out playing golf, for walking their dog,
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: or whatever they do. At two pm two h six
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: pm Eastern daylight time on a Saturday like May thirtieth,
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: they're just minding their own business. They're just going about
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: their day. They're just driving along with their dashboard camera
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: turned on, and all of a sudden, they happened to
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: catch on their dashboard cam a giant bright flash in
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: the sky that seemed to be coming from somewhere near
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Cape Cod Bay. That's what happened. That's what happens. That's
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: what happens on that typical Saturday. Now, this is a
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: very unusual event. So it looks like a giant meteor
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: explosion occurred over Cape Cod Bay on Saturday, May thirtieth,
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: at two o six in the afternoon, bright enough to
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: easily be captured on things like security cameras and dashboard
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: cameras and things like that. So it's daylight visible, extremely
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: bright flash. That's because something about five foot in diameter
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: weighing nearly twelve thousand pounds came into the atmosphere right
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: over Cape Cod Bay, caused enough friction to explode, and
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: then the fragments were large enough that they actually came
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: down and made landfall, unfortunately not on land, over the
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: water in Cape Cod Bay. So this was as powerful
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: an explosion as three hundred tons of TNT, says NASA
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: after they consulted their satellite imagery and evaluated both the
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: sonic booms and the reports of that, and also the
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: data from the satellites and from the cameras and other
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: things that they were able to gather, this is a
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: very unusual event. People literally across the entire Northeastern Seaboard
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: were able to hear this explosion. It was audible over
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: multiple states in the Northeast United States. So sound doesn't
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: travel very efficiently. If you're close to an explosion, it
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: may be really loud, but if you get far enough away,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: you kind of only hear it as a distant rumble.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: And that sound is it's burning itself out as it
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: moves through the atmosphere and literally heats up the air.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: So all that energy is consumed rather quickly, and so
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: so for sound waves to travel over a multi state area,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: this was an extremely large boom. It's extremely large boom
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: number three on our list and uh NASA officials wrote
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: on x on Sunday, May thirty first, they said this quote.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: The meteor appears to have fragmented and an altitude of
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: forty miles over the northeastern Massachusetts area and southeastern New Hampshire.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: The energy released at breakup is estimated to be equivalent
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: to about three hundred tons of TNT, which accounts for
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: the loud noise unquote. All right, so not three hundred pounds, friends,
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: three hundred tons. Imagine igniting three hundred tons of explosives.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: All right, So that.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: Would think about that all the time.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: We did We did that one time. That's that's pretty fun.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: But all the time I think.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Just kidding atf I'm just joking here.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: I mean, we we're like a month away from you know, us, say,
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: two fifty. I mean, it seems like a fireworks occasion,
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: doesn't it.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: It does seem like, okay, so good that you brought
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: that up, because I would say this, in the days
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: leading up to the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: the founding of our nation, there have been a lot
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: of these events. And I don't mean celebratory events for
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of our nation. I
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: mean giant meters coming in and exploding over major cities right, Ohio, Houston,
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Now Boston's on the list. The Boston area, there's a
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: lot of just space rocks blowing up and making enough
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: noise that they married a news story. So here's yet
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: another one, friends, and we're kind of keeping track of that.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: I hadn't thought about the idea that it might just
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: be early fireworks for America's two hundred and fiftieth anniversary celebration.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: You know, that could be that. I'm not going to
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: discount it, but but yeah, anyway, it seems that some
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: straight fire works did actually rattle things over the Boston area. Now,
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: one last thing is this, Unfortunately for meteorite hunters, that
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: appears that these fragments have fallen into the ocean or
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: in Cape Cod Bay at least. But people are warning
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: the fishermen in the area who may have nets placed
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: down that if their nets are in certain locations, they
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: should watch the rocks that might come up with their
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: fishing nets. They should look for unusual stones that might
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: be found in the fishing nets, because they could actually
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: be fragments of this meteor that broke up. So the
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: local Boston weathermen were using their weather tracking radar to
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: help pin down the location of potential entry points into
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Cape Cod Bay and alerting the fishermen. Hey, if you're
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: out there with nets in the water and you pull
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: up the net and you've got a weird stone in there,
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: that could actually be a fragment of this big meteorite
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: that came in on Saturday, May thirtieth. So there you go.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: More made of star right after this. So we've covered
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: three big booms and then now we got our I
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: mean whatever. We can't really call it a boom. We
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: don't know what happened exactly, but it's the goodbye, the
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: farewell to the maven Mars mission.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: So it's what we don't know is that there wasn't
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: a boom.
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: That's right. Just like we don't know Dave Limp and
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: Jeff Bezos are listening or not. We don't know if
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: there was a boom or not.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: But we do know there's so many things we don't know.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: As we do this podcast, we have we try to
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: give information, but there's a lot of things we still
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: That's right. We don't we don't and we as a
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: lot of things we don't know, But we don't know
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: exactly what happened with Maven. So but it's but it's,
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: it's it's.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: But it doesn't prevent us from talking about it anyway.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: That's that's what podcasts are all about.
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: That's right. So a farewell to Maven.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: We know that.
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: That's all we know.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Maven is no longer talking to us, so that's the
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: one thing we definitely do know. So this week NASA
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: officially said, okay, it's time to call it. The patient
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: appears to be no longer with us, so NASA gave
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: an official farewell to the Maven Mars mission. Now, let's
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: just put this in perspective. This very important mission to
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: study the atmosphere on volatile evolution of the Martian atmosphere
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: began back in twenty fourteen, and that's when it entered
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: the atmosphere around the Red planet. It was expected to
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: last one year, so it's it's expected a lifetime of
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: making measurements and providing data was approximately three hundred and
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: sixty five days or twelve months. It lived eleven years
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: in orbit around Mars, so this vehicle had a very
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: long and very successful lifetime compared to the minimum lifetime
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: or the minimum expectations for data taking. However, the end
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: came probably sometime in early December of twenty twenty five.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: That's on December sixth was the last time that the
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: spacecraft bothered to check in with its parents back at NASA,
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: And so after that it went into what's called a
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: loss of signal where it passes behind the planet Mars
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: and it just never came back at or it just
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  Speaker 2: quit communicating from that time forward. So entering the atmosphere
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  Speaker 2: in twenty fourteen, it ran up through December of twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty five and eleven year run. And during that time,
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  Speaker 2: the Mars Atmosphere and Volatile Evolution spacecraft, which we know
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  Speaker 2: as MAVEN, had contributed vast amounts of data observing Mars
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  Speaker 2: upper atmosphere, Mars ionosphere, the interaction with Mars atmosphere and
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  Speaker 2: the Sun and solar wind, and all of that data
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  Speaker 2: is helping us better understand both the atmosphere of the
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  Speaker 2: Red planet and the magnetic field of the Red planet
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  Speaker 2: and its interactions with the Sun and the solar wind.
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  Speaker 2: But it also helps us understand our own atmosphere because
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  Speaker 2: it gives us additional modeling points that make it easier
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  Speaker 2: to understand both our current condition and the evolution of
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  Speaker 2: our own atmosphere as well. So so long, Maven, well done.
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  Speaker 2: Check it out. Read the story on NASA dot gov
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: farewell to Maven.
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: More Made of Stars. Right after this, you guys are
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  Speaker 4: in summer mode at Columbus State University's Coca Cola Space
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  Speaker 4: Science Center, So not quite as many groups coming in,
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  Speaker 4: but you do still have some folks coming in.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we have actually have about forty JROTC students from
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  Speaker 2: the entire region around the Space Science Center. So they're
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  Speaker 2: not just from our local school district. We do have
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  Speaker 2: some of those, but these JROTC students are from school
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  Speaker 2: districts in Alabama and surrounding counties in Georgia as well,
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: and so they are having a summer camp experience where
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: they're learning about robotics, they're learning about three D manufacturing,
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: they're learning about flying drones, and they're having a great time.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: So if you if you come down now and see
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of kids dressed in khakis, that's why you know.
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  Speaker 2: Fort Benning has not invaded the Space Science Center. It's
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: more like we're preparing that next generation of Fort Manning
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  Speaker 2: soldiers with knowledge about robots and drones and coating and
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: things like that here at our facility. So if you're
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: come down to visit us today, you'll see a lot
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: of that taking place. However, no big school groups like
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: West mentioned typically at this time of year accept some
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: special groups like this one. And so the Gallery Friends
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: is a lot more accessible. Our space of Odyssey is
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: a lot more accessible. Our flight simulators with newly upgrade software,
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: a lot more accessible. Our Mars rover simulations, and our
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: Mars Rover terrain where you can actually drive a little
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: rovers around on our simulated surface of Mars all a
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: lot more accessible. And we have a brand news show
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  Speaker 2: in the Atmosphere Theater called Dinosaur a Survival Story as
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: if so come down and check out Dinosaur a Survival
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Store in the Omnosphere Theater. If you want to find
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: out all the information about visiting Space Science Center, visit
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  Speaker 2: the website www dot cc SSC dot org. Carlie Charlie
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  Speaker 2: SamSam Charlie dot Org.
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