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Seth Gruber: Is This The Last Stand For Believers, The Church, America? · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
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defending biblical Christianity.
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No topic, off limits.
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And now, here's your host, David Firazzo.
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Hey friends, thank you so much for watching, listening, sharing the podcast, and of course,
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we always are blessed by your prayers and keeping us going financially.
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I want to read a few headlines to give you an idea of where we're going today.
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Basically, Seth Gruber is going to finally tell us what he really thinks today.
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So here's a couple of headlines to think about.
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One, insiders worry insiders.
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Have Democrats gone too far on abortion?
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Did that hurt them in the last election?
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We can talk about that.
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Maybe also, there's a possible resolution out of the Southern Baptist Convention would
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they would condemn chemical abortion or urge the FDA to suspend approval and reinstate
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safeguards.
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Whenever I see that, I'm going to case safeguards for chemical abortion, that doesn't make
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sense.
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But here's the one that I'm really interested in.
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And it's over at the Federalist and the new, big, beautiful bill that they're talking
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about in the Trump administration in Congress, GOP budget would finally defund Democrat mega-donor
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planned parenthood.
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Now we've seen headlines like this before.
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Well, I'm not going to hold my breath, but I want to get Seth's take.
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Seth has been on the podcast before, brother.
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He's done so much great work for the life pro-life community.
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He founded the White Rose Resistance in 2022, and that has quickly become the fastest growing
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pro-life ministry in America.
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And he's trying to wake up the church, especially when it comes to the truth from God's word
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on creation and pre-born human lives in mother's womb.
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Seth, grubber.
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Welcome back to World View Matters.
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Good to see you.
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Thanks, David.
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You too.
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Appreciate you.
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Thanks for your time.
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I appreciate you so very much.
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And I want to just first ask you about an event coming up next month.
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The Stand.
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It sounds awesome.
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Jack Hibbs, Riley Gaines is music.
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What's that all about at Calvary Chapel, Downey, California?
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Yeah, it's called The Last Stand.
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And David, it's also the name of my next film, which is in progress right now.
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And I'll get you a teaser sneak peak trailer to that soon.
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I just got back from a couple trips to Rome, Paris, and London, so the three great cities
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of history.
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But the name of our event is also called The Last Stand.
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And it's because we're in a season of The Last Stand, David.
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Well, what do I mean by that?
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You don't sexually mutilate the next generation, slaughter children in the name of radical
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feminism.
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Let three gay dudes who call themselves married, raised children, rent a poor woman's
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uterus, and bring children home to deny them any mother whatsoever, and also get to
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keep your country and get to keep your civilization.
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Okay.
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JD Unwin wrote this great book called Sex and Civilization, or Sex and Society, Sex
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and Culture, years ago, and he found a 100% correlation between sexually debotched, crazy
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out of control cultures, and cultural decay, like lose your civilization forever.
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Yeah.
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He found a 100% correlation between sexual monogamous heterosexual marriage based cultures
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and cultural advancement.
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It doesn't take a Christian to acknowledge this.
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I'm speaking purely from observations of history, and he studied like thousands, thousands
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of civilizations over a 5,000 year period.
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So whether the left likes it or not, this is just a truism.
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This is just part of human nature.
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It's how we operate because you live in God's world, and eventually you're going to have
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to abide by His rules as much as you try to liberate yourself beyond the constraints
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of human nature.
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The bottom line is, when you go down the path America is going down right now with the
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choices we're making, our laws, how we treat our children, the endangering of women
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and children with abortion, with trans stuff, with the sexualization, with you can't even
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compete in a swim match or get undressed in your locker room afterwards, because maybe
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a dude's on the swim team, like all this kind of stuff, not to mention the sex trafficking
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and 330,000 children missing, but like you go down that road, you will lose your civilization.
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All right.
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Like, sorry, that's what's happened to every civilization.
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You don't have to believe in God to acknowledge this.
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And so the last stand season we're living in, David, might be five years, it might be
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eight years, it might be 40 years.
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I don't know.
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We all sense, don't we?
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That if we continue making the decisions we're making and continue going the direction,
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we're going in America, eventually we will go off a cultural cliff that we will not climb
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out of.
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And if America falls, I think it's safe to say, although with Georgia Maloney is kind
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of a baller and what she's doing, turning Italy right side up, maybe there's hope for
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Western civilization, but I usually we believe, and with good reason, that if America falls
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Western civilizations over, Ronald Reagan called America the last great hope on earth.
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Obviously, Jesus Christ is our king, he's the only hope.
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But America is the last best hope on earth for human flourishing, the protection of women
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and children and a healthy society.
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And so we're parroting that this is a season of the last stand and Trump is not a savior.
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Actually, David, he's a tourniquet.
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And listen, I voted for him.
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God, thank God we didn't get Jezebel Harris as a president.
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But the point is, is that Trump is a tourniquet and a tourniquet helps stop the bleeding.
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And that's really good, right?
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When you stop bleeding, but I wouldn't want to wear a tourniquet for four years.
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That would be really frustrating to wear a tourniquet on a wound for four years.
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I would want to kind of get healed up and restored and like back to business.
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So Trump is this strange like providential like window of mercy from the Lord, actually,
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because it was him or Jezebel Harris.
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So he's like this window of mercy where the church has some time to maybe wake up with
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hold some evil.
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And ultimately, prayerfully, get back to our business.
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Our spiritual mantle is the church of Christian resistance.
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And the church has always been defined until maybe the last hundred and twenty five years
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or so, David.
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The church, it was always defined by its resistance and opposition to evil, particularly when
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it comes to the murder of babies, abortions, which, I mean, the early church was saying
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against abortions like two thousand years ago, David, like abortions are not new.
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They've just never been as well funded and popular as they are now, but they've always
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been around.
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The sexualization of children, like the raping of little boys and girls who were treated
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as the sexual gratifications of perverted adult males and the abuse of women and the sexualization
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and rape of women, all these kind of evils, which used to be what's this?
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We have forgotten our history.
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Gosh dang it, David, we're so fat on liberty and American freedoms that we forget it's
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the exception and not the norm.
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The norm is all of that stuff is not just legal, it's culturally respectable.
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I love this point Tom Holland makes.
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Where's my book?
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I left it at home.
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Tom Holland, who's not a Christian, wrote this book called Dominion, the making, the shaping
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of the Western mind or something.
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And he basically argues for Christianity's a positive good.
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And he says that concepts like the rule of law and the right, or the sanctity of life
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and these things, he's like, yeah, those ideas don't go back to the Greek and Roman
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philosophers.
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Those ideas go back to the New Testament.
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And under the Greek and Roman philosophers, they blively tossed lives like dice, David.
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I mean, they would debate about the finer aspects of infanticide and child abandonment.
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And many of them thought that that a sawdemy with little boys was something that adult
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males were entitled to and that this was a good thing.
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Like, obviously, we get a lot of our traditions from the Greek and Roman philosophers and there's
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some good things about that.
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But these people did not value the sanctity of life.
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They did not value the lives of the young, the vulnerable, the voiceless, the marginalized,
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the unloved and the unlovedly.
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It was Christianity with its preaching of the of the sanctity of life and human beings
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created in the image of God that turned cultures right side up.
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And you've got like atheists like Tom Holland from the UK who doesn't believe in God saying
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Christianity is kind of a good thing and it gave us all of these things and if we don't
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get back to that, we're kind of screwed in Western civilization.
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And I'm like, oh my gosh, amen.
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Can I fan a pastor with as much testicular fortitude as this atheist UK author who's saying
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what every pastor in America should be saying?
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And it's not about the saving of souls, right, like that's like that's part of the role
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of the church.
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I'm not talking about that.
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I'm saying that also we should like prevent people from murdering babies like we should
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safeguard marriage.
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Like we should overturn a burger fell like like part of the role of the church is actually
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Genesis one.
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It's the creation cultural mandate.
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And what do we learn from those four verses in Genesis one, the first thinking chapter
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of the Bible, David, like if every pastor would just bring Genesis one into conflict with
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the demonic ideologies of the day, we could awaken most congregations in America in a matter
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of a year.
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It's not political.
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It's fundamentally biblical and theological.
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We learned there's a safety of life in Magraday.
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We learned that there's only men and women, which Trump signing that executive order, David
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was hilarious in January.
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He's like, there's only males and females.
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And this is based off of chromosomes, which is based off of the moment of conception.
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So whether he knew it or not, Trump was putting in place the political premises, David,
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to argue for the federal abolition of abortion because of males and females exist at the moment
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of conception.
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And that's a biological fact.
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And I guess that means they're persons and they shouldn't be killed.
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Number three, Eve is taken from Adam.
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So therefore marriage is only a man and a woman as his helpmate.
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So gay marriage is a misnomer.
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It's like saying you support gay marriage is like saying you support square circles.
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And then fourthly, in the marriage covenant of a man and a woman, you should have a ton
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of sex and actually like you should spit out a bunch of little dragon slayers.
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Like you should reproduce like bunnies and then raise little dragon slayers who fear God
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and God alone and cataclyze them as little like ninjas to destroy the culture of death
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and slay dragons.
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And so that even if we lose in the next 30 or 40 years, David, and it seems like we're
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losing the civilization and culture forever, the way we win in the long term is we outbreed
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the left because they're vaccinating, aborting and transiting themselves into extinction
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and conservative Christians are having the most babies right now.
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So I say have five more babies every Christian family and then raise them in the fear and
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admonition of the Lord.
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And in 40 years, we win by outbreeding them and raising righteous little dragon slayers
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who will stand against evil and protect the weak, the vulnerable babies in the family.
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So that's why we're doing the last stand and we're doing it in June, David, to retake
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June as life month and not sodomy anal sex pride month, which we're told we have to
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celebrate because Rovey Wage got overturned in June.
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But it also got overturned on June 24th, which in the church calendar, what's this is
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the nativity of Saint John the Baptist.
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So let's say this out loud really quick, David, everyone join me, evangelicals suck at
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the church calendar.
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Okay.
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We said it.
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Give the orthodox and the Catholics credit when they deserve it.
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As an evangelical, we suck at the high holy days in the Christian festivals and feasts
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that most believers for since, since Christ's ascension celebrated or they created new Christian
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festivals and feasts.
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And one of those is called the nativity of Saint John the Baptist.
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And it's every June 24th, the day that Rovey Wage got overturned.
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It's every June 24 that has been for hundreds of years.
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And it's when we celebrate and remember, David, Mary going to visit her cousin Elizabeth.
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Yes.
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He's a visitor cousin Elizabeth, the prenatal John the Baptist, little voice in the wilderness
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as the fetus starts doing back flips in the uterus because he recognizes the divinity
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and humanity of his prenatal deity, second member of the Trinity God man who entered human
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history in a uterus, the greatest former fetus who has ever existed to to to redeem man
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from their sins.
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But because Psalm 139 says that God knit you together in your mother's womb and you were
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fearfully and wonderfully made.
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And the doctrine of the incarnation means that Jesus is fully God and fully human, not from
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the moment of birth, that would be not following the science.
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He was fully God and fully human from the moment of conception, which is following the
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science, which means that that is the creator of the universe in Mary's womb.
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And if God and slept together in the womb and that is God in the womb, then that means
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that the prenatal deity, second member of the Trinity fetal God man, is knitting the
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prenatal John the Baptist together in the womb.
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While the creator is himself in a different womb in the same room, while the cousins
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are sipping back on tea and celebrating what God's doing in their individual uterus,
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which means that the second member of the Trinity prenatal deity, Godman, who once
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breathed out the flipping Milky Way, is now knitting himself together in the womb of
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a woman whose uterus he was together when he knit together Mary in the womb of Mary's
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mother.
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That's what we celebrate and remember every June 24th in the church calendar.
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Are you stinking kidding me?
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The death sentence of unborn babies got overturned on the day in the church calendar when we celebrate
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two unborn babies, one of whom is God.
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And we celebrate that the first person to recognize the divinity of Christ was a fetus,
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which is the Latin word for offspring or small child.
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Are you stinking kidding me?
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And then that evening in the night sky, there was a planetary alignment.
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Now, I'm not getting all weird on your audience.
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Don't hear, like, guys, don't Seth is not saying, go read the stars and see what God's
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trying to tell you.
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That's weird.
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That's weird stuff.
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Don't do that.
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I'm just saying that's kind of cool.
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And the last planetary alignment was I think 2002 or one, it was like 20 years before
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and they're pretty rare.
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So Mars Jupiter, Saturn, Venus, and one other, they all lined up in the night sky visible
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to the stargaze or by the naked eye, all lined up like this.
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The same day, Robby Wiggard overturned in the evening right after twilight.
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And it was beautiful, right?
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And then this, and then a photo went viral of a planetary alignment taken by an astrophotographer.
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So astro not photographer, someone who takes pictures of space.
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And he took a picture of the planetary alignment capturing all five planets in one photo
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and you can see them because they shine so brightly.
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And then this photo goes viral.
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I mean, it's shared on the internet like, like, crazy because it's such a beautiful
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photo.
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Planetary linemen are super rare.
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Okay.
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The name of the astrophotographer, David, who took the photo of a viral planetary alignment
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on the day that Robby Wiggard was overturned.
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His name is Wright Dobbs.
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Wright Dobbs.
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Dobbs, his last name is called D-O-B-B-S, Dobbs.
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Well, that would be the name of the Supreme Court decision that had overturned Roe v. Wade
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that morning.
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On the same day.
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Wow.
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The name of the Supreme Court decision, guys.
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Everyone just calls it Dobbs, but it's Dobbs versus Jackson Women's Health Organization.
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That's the name of the Supreme Court case that overturned Roe v. Wade eight hours before
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a astrophotographer took a photo of a viral planetary alignment.
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And his name is the same name as the Supreme Court decision.
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And then his first name is Wright.
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Wright.
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Oh, my God.
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Dobbs, right?
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Dobbs, good.
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Dobbs was right.
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Right, Dobbs.
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Oh, I'm sorry.
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Listen, I know Jesus said it's a wicked generation who seeks for signs and wonders, right,
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David?
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But as one Catholic priest, George Rutler says, it's a stupid generation who ignores signs
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and wonders.
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And so they say providence is when God winks as if to say, I'm still here.
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Now fulfill your duty to your king.
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June is life month.
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Not because I say so, but because the creator of the universe says so.
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We're retaking June and commissioning the church, inspiring, mobilizing, and sending
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them to host life marches with our friends at Citizens for Life all around the country
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every June in perpetuity until the Trump administration declares June is life month and
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causes the LGBTQ element of PIA.
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My name is Legion rainbow cult to start manifesting their inter Legion because gay saw to be month
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just became life month with the overturning of Rovers' way.
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But the point is this, my ministry actually needs to go away.
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That's actually my point.
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The time for hip, sexy, cool 501c3 organizations needs to go away and we need to make the local
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church great again because the local church for 2000 years was defined by their opposition
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to the same eagles that were told we have to be silent on or celebrate today because
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the church is not called to be political and somewhere in the early 1900s or early 20th
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century, the church traded their birthright for a bowl of porridge and decided somewhere
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around the fundamentalist modernist split, David, which we don't have time to get all
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that.
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I'm watching your clock, but decided that they needed to be very nuanced and win some sort
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of Tim Keller third wayism and abandoned a lot of the political fights that were actually
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genesis one issues.
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They were kind of fundamentally theological and biblical actually.
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And so it's no coincidence that a lot of the seeds of the destruction of the family
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would look at in America, David, like we could go back to Thomas Malthus.
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We could go back, I mean, we could go back to the French Revolution, if you'd like.
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And some of that insanity, which was really the first sexual revolution, we could go
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back to Thomas Hobbes and Leviathan, we could go back to Jean-Jacques Rousseau.
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There's a lot of tracing we could do and connect it all to today.
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But most people connect a lot of the really intense war against the family that's culminated
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in the culture we're living in today with the radicals at the turn of the century, in
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the early 20th century, that set the stage for so much of this insanity today.
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What I'm saying is that I don't think it's a coincidence that so much of the destruction
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of the family, babies, children, women, the young, the vulnerable, the sexualized, these
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evils, it's not a coincidence that it aligns almost perfectly with the retreat of the church.
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From issues and battlefronts that they used to be defined in their opposition too.
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Amen.
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So we need to make the local church great again, and we need to make 501C3 organizations
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that are all sexy and well-funded and doing cool stuff, actually not be so great.
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And so my job is to actually put myself out of a job and somehow inspire and mobilize
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the church to remember who they are and reclaim their spiritual mantle of how the church
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was always defined.
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Yes, the great commission, but also the cultural mandate in Genesis 1, so that local churches
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are fighting evil locally again, like they used to always do.
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And we don't need another non-profit to do the work that the local church has always
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been called to do.
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So that's why we're hosting the last stand on June 21st, 2025 next month.
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You can go to the laststand.com to join us and you can use code, I'll share my code
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with you.
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You can use code Seth10 if you listen to my podcast, you know that, but Seth10 for 10%
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off your tickets.
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And it'll be one of those, prayerfully, if trusting God's blessing yet, one of those
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moments that you'll be telling your children, grandchildren, about for years, this is a last
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stand moment.
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Amen, brother.
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Can you tell why I love this guy?
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Can you see?
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That's why I love having you on, Seth.
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You do great work.
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You're a straight shooter, straight talker.
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Sethgruber.com and also friends, the white rose dot life, the white rose dot life, the white
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rose resistance.
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I've only got about a dozen follow up questions, Seth, on your monologue there's, but let's talk
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about this back to that article that I read the headline to.
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So the GOP, you know, budget would finally, you know, defund the Democrats, cash cow,
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plan parenthood.
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I'm not holding my breath, but defund why are they still making, they're making, I believe
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record number record amounts of taxpayer dollars now they're receiving.
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And Rovey Wade was overturned, but there are even more abortions now is the abortion
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pill.
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The abortion pill.
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Is that a big reason for that?
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Go ahead.
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Yeah.
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That's correct.
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That's correct, David.
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And we have limited time.
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But let's, let's get into it.
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Okay.
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Listen, a lot of great things are happening under the Trump administration.
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No one's perfect.
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We're never going to get everything we want, but we should celebrate good victories, cheer
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them when they happen.
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So Trump and his administration hears what, what evangelical America likes.
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Well, true evangelicals, but not, not big even, not Russell Moore and the SPC in the
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ER.
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I'll see.
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They're all shepherds for sale, hireling sellouts and institutional managers and not
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Christian leaders.
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I mean, my friend Megan Basham's book, Shepherds for sale.
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If that comment just offended you and then you can come to David that you were wrong and
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that there's a big problem in big Eva with institutional managers who don't care about
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the church and the unborn and the anyways, but listen, we should, we should celebrate
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good things, but the church just needs to be much louder actually, David, like, you
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know that evangelicals are the largest voting block in the country, right?
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Supposedly.
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And guess what?
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Yeah, they're the largest voting block.
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And guess what?
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They're the weakest voting block.
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Yes.
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So how does that make sense?
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It's like, in numbers, we're the largest, but we don't show up and we don't throw around
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our political weight because we've read too many Tim Keller books and Russell Moore books
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and Rick Warren books and so yeah, so I'm not political.
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I just preach the gospel.
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It's like, I came across this grace quote the other day, David, from a Christian
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thinker named Ronald McAlay and he said, the failure to properly relate the gospel
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commission of the New Testament to the to the cultural mandate, the creation mandate
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in Genesis is what lies behind much of evangelicalism's current weaknesses and internal conflicts.
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In other words, it's like, you know, go to the end of the earth baptizing them in the
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name of the Father of Son and the Holy Spirit teaching them to obey all that I've commanded
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you.
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And the church like, okay, so our commission is evangelism and the saving of souls.
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Yes, but that's not the whole picture.
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As my mentor, Dr. George Grant says, a lot of our problems are because we start our
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gospel at John 316 and not Genesis 1.
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Okay, like the cultural mandate still matters to God because he repeats it to Noah after
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the fall.
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Right, so you fill the earth and subdue it, exercise dominion over all of creation.
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You're like, oh, whoa, well, that's kind of the big boy gospel.
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That gets me a lot more excited as a male with a lot of testosterone that wants to destroy
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evil.
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I'm like, I'm like, cool.
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So we can, so we preach the gospel, save souls, but we also get to like, destroy evil
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and keep it at bay and protect the vulnerable.
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I'm like, that's cool, like why hasn't the church been preaching that gospel?
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So we need to be expressing that and be involved because for too long, I think the GOP, which
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is a joke, has taken advantage of the evangelical vote because they're like, well, we know we'll
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always get it, right?
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Because we stand in opposition to the radical demonic Democrat party, which by the way, like
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Jesus is not a Republican or a Democrat.
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He's the king.
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So he is political because he likes a monarchy, but Satan is definitely a Democrat.
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Like he has a D right before Bale's above, like, you know, so that's his party.
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Like Satan's a registered Democrat.
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So like, I think the GOP's taken advantage of that and like, well, we can do whatever
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we want because we'll always get the evangelical vote.
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And I think we need to start raising our voice more.
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Yes, let's defund Planned Parenthood, David.
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But like I'm reading this bill this morning as well that would defund Planned Parenthood.
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Do you know what it says?
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This is what it says.
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This bill restricts federal funding for Planned Parenthood Federation of America or any
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of its affiliates or clinics for one year.
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Oh, so now even under the GOP, which, you know, we had that we had all three branches
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of government in Trump's first administration for the first two years.
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Remember?
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D defund Planned Parenthood.
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Now everyone's like, yes, it's the new GOP, which I think we are starting to get some
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of that, by the way.
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A little.
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Um, there's a reason why people go to Charlie Kirk's Turning Point USA for endorsements
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in support and not the, um, uh, CPAC, like, like the, to turn my buddy Charlie at Turning
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Point USA is almost become the new GOP, almost a new CPAC.
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It's like, fascinating.
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So I think there are things changing, which is good.
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But even now when they try to defund Planned Parenthood, the bill says for one year.
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Yeah.
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Just for 12 months.
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It's like, what are you talking about?
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This is an organization that's the largest provider of the pornographic comprehensive sex
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set in the schools.
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It's tracing kids and teaching gender theory and cultural Marxism.
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That's Planned Parenthood, by the way.
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So they're not just an abortion organization.
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And we've talked about that with the 1960 project.
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They're the second largest provider of puberty blockers and cross sex hormones for America's
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gender confused youth.
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And they're the largest abortion provider in the world.
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Okay.
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They should not be getting our tax dollars.
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But yes, it's because of the abortion pill, David.
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And so this is why, um, next time you have me on, we'll have a more serious conversation
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about criminalizing abortion.
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So let's just really make people uncomfortable in the last three minutes.
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Every state in America, including the red states that have what we would maybe say, David,
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is good pro-life laws, like good pro-life protections.
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I'm here to say a hard word to your audience today.
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And I'll get pushed back on this because a lot of lay conservatives don't understand the
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politics of this very well.
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It's not an insult.
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It's just the reality.
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Abortion is legal in every state in America.
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Okay.
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Now, what are we about that?
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63% of the abortions, according to Planned Parenthood Statistical Research Branch, the
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Goodmocker Institute last year, are now, are, are, are you 486 abortion pills, medication
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abortion?
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63%.
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How many babies were killed in 2023 the year after Roe v. Wake got overturned over a million?
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Then that's what was recorded.
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And it's always more because states are, are not required to report their abortion data.
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Thanks to Bill Clinton.
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So over a million babies were killed in 2023.
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So they said 63% of the abortions in 2023 were abortion pills, which thanks to Biden
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are now shipped through the mail via snail mail, and they arrive in a woman's mailbox.
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She takes the first regimen, then she takes the second forces her uterus to have contractions
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to deliver sometimes not a dead, but usually a dead baby in the toilet.
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And the instructions on the abortion pill say don't look and flush.
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And so now there's studies showing that our water we're drinking has aborted fetal
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cells in some of it because our sewers run red with the bodies and blood of our children.
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So like you can't make America great again.
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Actually, you can't maga when the sewers of America run red with the bodies and blood
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of our children.
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And so because of the abortion pill, and because you can ship it, Texas, Tennessee, North
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Dakota, South Dakota, okay, the reddest states in the country, David, a mother can kill her
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baby with the abortion pill.
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And she is exempt from all criminalization or any type of legal action against her.
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Now if she gives birth to a baby and chops it, the infants had off or throws the child
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in the trash right after birth, that behavior is criminalized and she'll face legal penalties.
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But if she kills the same child six inches away in her uterus, she's the only individual
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in law in red states that is exempt from punishment.
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My point is this, you'll never end abortion that way.
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You'll never end abortion that way because now we're going to be pushing 70% next year
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of abortions being a pill that's not regulated and there's no abortionist, the woman's
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doing it to herself.
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So yes, let's defund Planned Parenthood, let's raise our voices, but we have some big
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problems in front of us, and until the local church becomes great again and pastors find
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the testicular fortitude to preach the full council of God against demonic cultural
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evils and mobilize their congregations, the people of God to tear down the high places
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and vote right, speak right, preach right, parent right, and take back their culture locally
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than none of this is going away.
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Big A man, I'm absorbing a lot of what you shared.
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I'm sure our audience is too, but thank you, brother.
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It's a lot of work and one of your missions is to try to awaken the church.
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A lot of silent pulpits, Dietrich Bonhoffer famously said, silence in the face of evil
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is itself evil.
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A lot of pastors, hopefully, are going to start waking up, but thank you for all you do,
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brother, Lord willing.
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We'll do this again in the near future.
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Bless you.
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Thanks, guys, for sharing the podcast.
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God bless you, and as always, keep speaking the truth about things that matter.