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Cursed Words: Oppenheimer Review, Barbie Review & Unity Backlash · Multiple Nerdgasm

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  ladies and gentlemen sorry about that but Matt uh said there was going to not
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  be an issue so now he's not on the podcast this week yeah I'm about to fall
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  off the internet yeah yeah he he did the horrible thing of saying everything's
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  fine you know everything's fine or it's going to be a quiet night nothing's
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  going to happen nothing's going to go wrong so it's all going to go terribly
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  wrong this episode why does that not happen when you go God I hope no one sucks my
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  dick welcome to multiple
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  nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and
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  Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All
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  Things
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  nerdy mhm it's not fair is it it's
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  not hope I hope I don't every time every time I say I don't want to S hope I
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  don't win the lottery would be a nightmare I'd have to enter the lottery to win the
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  lottery yeah I'm glad my classic family station wagon and not a sports car or
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  something like that hope no one crashes into my truck
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  with a Ferrari and then to apologize gifts me the ferrarii yeah which is miraculously
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  uninjured Bo and I were talking this week about how to kind of increase our
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  finances and I was like okay what if what if we followed around a real estate mode
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  um until one of his kids was in in in a life-threatening danger and then I swoop
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  and save him and then as oh and then as a payment you know to say thank you he
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  gives us a house with a very reasonable umage rate and she's like well this
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  fantasy is not even giving it to you for free and I'm like that's not get greedy
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  I don't need it for free I just need it to be payable out of my my
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  income mhm I I in a lot of every now and again because I don't I don't want to win
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  Millions I just want to win to have no debt imagine just not having to pay off
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  it a loan or mortgage at all and just the what money you make would have to be
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  Millions for me at this point but yes no I'm talking about like not the 20
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  million 50 million type of thing just that just enough just to two million
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  make quite a difference in my life I'll I'll say that yeah yeah like you still
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  luk my boss has started doing a YouTube uh channel uh where he um does game
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  reviews and tips and stuff but on very specific games and not the kind of games
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  we talk about but he started referring to it as passive income cuz and I'm like
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  you still have to record a show that's you know it's still work still work
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  you're just enjoying it at the moment you wait till you're not enjoying it
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  anymore and see if you still call it passive income yeah actually happens
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  with a lot of YouTubers that they will start off for fun and then you watch
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  them and then it becomes a job and then they've got a higher editors and stuff
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  cuz I I've often thought oh it would be fun it is a lot of work like this show
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  is is quite a lot of work and uh you know I enjoy it so it's so that I don't
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  care but if if we got like you know cuz we' we've said that we don't want to do
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  certain things cuz honestly if if it's work we're not interested right this is
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  fun it's fine we're happy to do it but and I've seen
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  YouTubers like popular YouTubers who do music stuff in like say who I would
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  think oh their life must be great who just [ __ ] burn out and they may have
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  to make a video where they're like I can't do this anymore guys I can't do it
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  and I'm like man that's [ __ ] up cuz the YouTube they're not making so yes
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  some the top top ones are are making millions but most of most of them are
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  they're they're making enough to live on but you can't
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  stop the ones that make money work hard this is one of the few Industries where
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  actually the harder you work the more you get paid sure but if you take a
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  holiday for two weeks to catch up you don't get you don't get income no and
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  not only that you lose subscribers they just drop they drop off yeah it's it's
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  it's you've got always be up and you're not making millions of dollars like for most
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  of them they're making a nice income but all you're doing is sit in front of your
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  computer working and engaging people have you noticed that the the crowd has
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  kind of turned on on on some of the Hollywood celebrities who have started
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  shows back up specifically I'm talking Barrymore started CH show everyone's
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  like you're a traitor and she's like a it's not scripted it's not acted so
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  nobody is crossing a picket line but also my staff have to work you know my
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  need money on the table yeah yeah it's hard I guess I mean clearly look it and
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  it's not a scripted show and that's other thing you have to that's what
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  we're going to be getting for the next few years is well the actors are on
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  strike as well and they're arguing that she's an actor but I guess her argument
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  is that she's not an actor in she's not acting she's she's not an actress
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  anymore she's yep yeah you could still be an actor strike acting in this
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  particular circumstance I suppose but her apology was was t and and legit like
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  she she obviously feels really bad about it she doesn't really know what to do I
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  mean all her friends are still out there holding up signs but you know the people
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  that work for her are starving yeah but she did she did has pulled out things
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  like she pulled out MTV Awards or something like CU to go no I'm not part
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  of that not doing that because of this and she's still taking a stand where she
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  can but yeah people still need to get paid oh man my driver did I tell you
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  this already on air my driver in um Bary recently was just telling us how
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  oh I was really bad here during Co we're like yeah I bet he's like yeah you know
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  I had to fish for my own fish because I couldn't get meat I didn't eat eat meat
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  for two years and I was like I guess I can't complain yeah yeah I I had to work from
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  home I had to get my groceries Del get stuff
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  delivered my life changed only for the
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  better during Co yeah I got a better job
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  better yeah got a I got a better working conditions
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  yeah yeah see yeah I got a better job I I brought a house going to work was
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  great because there's no one on the roads and office was quiet and yeah I
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  guess I guess this is the white privilege they tell us about yeah yeah
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  yeah for sure and that's not a flex ladies and gentlemen that's just us
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  slowly coming to realize that we should shut our mouths about some things
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  yeah yeah but not about others definely about other things no well look I've got
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  I got an important question I've done my homework have you done your homework
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  Luke I've got two more weeks have you B's not going to be here in two weeks
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  I'll do it for next week I will sit down and I'll watch June watch a guy sit in
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  the room yeah you might be surpris watch this how much of a your kind of movie
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  this is oh sorry I do forget it's not just a guy sitting in the room there
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  also a guy walking into that room yeah but you know who that guy
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  movie a radical dude who you're going to enjoy who really plays the he acts the
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  [ __ ] out of that character all right I saw a trailer for the second part before
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  another film that I saw this week and I hadn't there's a trailer I hadn't seen
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  yet oh man looks so good it reminds you I'll tell you what I will tell you what
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  I did watch this week you want I watched a television series called search party
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  okay okay I don't know this um weird as hell
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  um It's Five Seasons you watched five seasons of a show but you couldn't watch
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  Dune that that um oh you had me at Jeff
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  Goldblum oh he's in the last season okay interesting um it's got the girl who
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  played maybe oh one of your friends dies and they decide to be
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  detectives yes I watched the first episode way back in the day and didn't
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  go ahead yeah um if you watch it it just keeps escalating escalating just gets
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  weirder and weirder search yeah I couldn't stop watching
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  it I I I I stopped because I thought it was young people being cool and that
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  doesn't really interest me anymore no this you don't get to do that yes
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  correct these are once you watch a bit more you find out it's four terrible
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  people o okay very self involed for terrible people yeah it's for terrible
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  People Like Us I'm surprised like a yeah I
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  know right the demo yeah no it's yeah like one of the guys talks about how he
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  had cancer as a child and all this stuff what a jerk goes on about it all the
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  time but no watch it and it took me a little while to get into it but then
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  once you do then especially that one you get that last season when everything
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  sort of comes together Al so it wraps up probably finishes well no it finishes
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  and then still continues of course it does why would
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  ites up that no no but it does it has to
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  continue as well you a Tumbl of
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  wine no it's a a pint of uh of stat oh okay okay and then just in case I ran
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  out I also have a glass of Dallas here as well of course Matt can't do the show if he's so
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  he just can't do it it's true I thought that was a fancy VB the first time you
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  lifted it up but it's just the green screen it's a Starfield VB well you VB
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  had a literal clear case no it just looked gold the first time he picked it
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  up and I was like oh that's cool no the gold Forex and they only
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  have those in Queen's land yeah the land of Queens will they change the name of
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  Queen land to King's land now they're going to have to
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  um but wasn't it already before you had a queen well why was it called that mate
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  that that's nonsensical if it was the band Queens Reich have to change the
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  name m the queen have to change their name yeah drag queens have to change all
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  of their
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  names but there's already drag que
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  Kings don't bring logic into this okay I'm sorry right Matt you did your
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  homework I did double homework I only promised to watch one of those movies
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  and I watched both of them I love this is the only year in history where there
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  are two movies you just had to watch you had to watch them back to back it's a
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  strange phenomenon and also I mean I'll say this right off the bat I mean
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  they're not in any way similar so it's a really weird comparison that's why go as
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  far as saying also now I think Oppenheimer may have done well
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  regardless but the highest grossing biopic at this in the world this week
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  really piggybacked on on on on the Barbie train in in ways that I'm sure oh
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  mate I think the they weren't planning to go head to-head with Barbie they were
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  just going to come out and just be a movie and have why would they even
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  consider that exactly but somehow the media made this a a double feature you
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  had to go and see so even people who would only see Barbie and it was the the
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  highest costing marketing campaign in the world ever for barie um more than
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  the cost of the film which I know we always say but it's never true this is
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  true at this point um I think they've really benefed that yeah right yeah I
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  think over 900 million Oppenheimer this week like it's the highest grow biopic
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  of all time I mean and for a straight up drama that's that's un that's almost a
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  billion dollars this is not a Marvel fil yeah yeah no no and okay so which one do
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  you want to hear about first did you think yeah no I want to hear about
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  which Oppenheimer guys I [ __ ] loved it and I'm so baffled that you guys
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  didn't but that's fine but I [ __ ] loved every second of it okay and when
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  it ended I was like oh that's it all right no worries that's how I felt at the end
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  too yeah but like I don't know I don't know I don't know what it is we liked it
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  we it yeah no no no I know but clearly not as much as I did because cuz I came
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  out of it and I was thinking [ __ ] the guy like maybe because my expectations
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  were lower I [ __ ] loved it what did you think of the
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  explosion loved it I have nothing this have one negative thing to say about it
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  it's not even really the negative thing it's just like it was an odd choice is
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  that there was only like one particularly maybe he did it a
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  couple other times but there was the scene when he's in the um the hearing
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  and the camera pans pass the prosecutor and on the other side he's naked and
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  then and then um Florence Pew's in there as well and they're getting it on in the
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  thing it's obviously not real it's like a fantasy thing but there was no other
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  point in the movie where that kind of thing happened so it was a bit odd yeah
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  yeah agree that was the only bit that I was kind of like H weird choice but okay
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  I think they just want to get her breast on the screen one more time I don't
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  think you saw him in that scene I was looking for me the they talked up the
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  explosion so much like it's going to be the biggest practical and sort of it was
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  maybe you could get some special effects for it oh I see I mean it looked pretty
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  [ __ ] good to me oh it looked great to me I just don't
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  care that it wasn't special effects you could have G half for it was all special
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  effects and I would have G just as good I wasn't really thinking
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  about it when I was watching it to me yeah just they talked it up so much and
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  then it was just oh is is that it for me at least really I guess I wasn't really
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  thinking about it like that yeah I was distracted by the uh by
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  the Roman guy from um Norman yeah yeah definitely by him for
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  sure [ __ ] everybody's in this movie anytime a new character was introduced I
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  was like oh [ __ ] it's that guy tiny bit Parts Ramy mik Casey Affleck yeah Ramy
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  Malik Casey Affleck in one like just for a little bit like everybody solo young
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  Han Sol that's right yeah yeah oh I like that that he the only bits that little
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  guy you may have heard of John F Kennedy those those sequences I felt
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  they were weak than others the Robert Danny J stuff was weaker with with those
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  two but I did love that bit at the end where he was like maybe they were just
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  talking about something something more important mate yes that was excellent
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  that was a really good line because it was because it was really you know it
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  was like he's like I think we have maybe maybe we have destroyed the world and
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  he's like oh they're talking about me yeah yeah that's right no mate I liked
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  very much I like that very much I think yeah it it was a
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  strange choice for me to lean so heavily into the
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  communism elements of his life when
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  I'm sure he barely even remembers that and they're like oh he's going to lose
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  his clearance that's the stakes that he's going to lose his clearance this is
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  the man who like wonders whether he should or shouldn't have created an
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  atomic [ __ ] bomb and like we're supposed to care whether
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  he whether somebody who's going to be a politician not the president just going
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  to be what this minister of [ __ ] finances or something yeah whatever it
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  felt very much like tried
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  to uh a really dire app plot into
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  something that didn't really matter that much I felt that was um well I thought
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  the point was to silence him because he was he was showing up at these things
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  poo pooing their trying to shut down the the hydrogen bomb and they were pissed
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  off at him about that so the taking away his clearance was to like now he's not
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  going to have a say yeah like we got can you really
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  trust clearance taken away exactly we've got rid of him I thought I thought
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  that's what the point was maybe but this is years after and he's been a celebrity
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  on tally for so long I I just think that's an unrealistic point of view to
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  take that that that one that one argument would have would have
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  discredited him I don't I don't feel that's the case but yeah that's not the
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  movie's fault necessarily yeah and I liked it all like I said I enjoyed it
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  very much and for a three-hour movie I was I was happy to sit there for every
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  minute of the three hours you know like a lot of three- hour movies I'm like
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  come on you wrap this up I was Happ to sit there for nearly the whole movie I
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  did have to pee at one stage oh I definitely had to pee at one stage I
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  took steps so that I didn't have to pee that sounds odd I just peed beforehand
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  he was wearing an adult diaper ladies and gentlemen I peed beforeand and I made I
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  took we talked about this I took scotch in instead of a beer because I knew yeah
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  and and we did talk about this listeners if you don't believe us we really worked
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  out what I texted and I said is this a scotch movie or a beer movie yeah the Scot was
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  excellent that's the other thing too the whole experience of it was [ __ ] great
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  for me cuz it was just like a mostly empty CA oh that's great was sat in the
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  recliner with my little with my Scotch maybe we weren't drunk enough maybe that
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  was the problem it could be maybe I took martinis into um no time to die and that
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  made that a great experience yeah I drank martinis at
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  Barbie well we can talk about Barbie we can we can oh I just want to say one
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  more thing is I thought Kil Murphy's performance was [ __ ] amazing I
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  thought he was [ __ ] amazing in it great oh I do have one more question do
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  you want a new hat no but I did he's got a little one of those little bags that's
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  just got a handle on it one of those little leather cases and I was like oh
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  that's cool yeah such a [ __ ] loser his mate who kept trying to work on the
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  hydrogen bomb right yeah yeah y I was like that guy must
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  look like that guy must they must have gone out of their way to make that guy
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  look exactly like that real had a lot of eyeliner on it looked like yeah I I felt
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  there was a lot of I thought prosthetics then I went Tob after and looked at the
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  actor no he looks exactly like that yeah he just looks like I did it look a lot
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  of them looked a lot like they did interesting job considering they're all
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  well-known celebrities when you look at them next to a photo of the characters
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  I'm like that's quite good that's quite a good pick like even Killy Murphy looks
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  a lot like Oppenheimer they made him look a lot like that like said that he
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  did before going back and getting the apple with the poison in it that part of
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  the story isn't true the part where he
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  poisoned it is he strangled another professor yeah you're definitely
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  supposed to and I really like the scene you know after
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  they after the Trinity test when they you know they drive off with the the two
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  nuke City made to you know to drop on Japan that's a great moment and he's
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  like all right so you'll call me and um like why and my was like uh
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  sure and then and then uh yeah on the day he's like sat there [ __ ] chain
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  smoking and his wife's like what are you doing he's like I thought they would
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  have called by now and she's like [ __ ] I'm gon call you [ __ ] yeah yeah yeah
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  and then he hears on the radio and then the guy does call he goes yeah it worked
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  see yeah mhm they're all well done yeah and he does that speech where he oh yeah
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  I bet the Japanese didn't like it h he's laughing but his eyes like his just that
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  scene is just like yeah great you could just the way he delivers that but you
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  can see like in his eyes he's like what the [ __ ] have I done yeah yeah and
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  blames himself yeah in the movie I don't know how he felt in real life obviously well
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  certainly wanted you to think that he blamed himself yeah he you know yeah he
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  went on to he did he did go on to do all that stuff that he does later to try and
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  fight the hydrogen bomb and all that kind of stuff yeah yeah but he said my
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  bomb's enough that one's to gone too far well he wanted it to be a deterrent not
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  a yes and then like that what's that thing he says later on where they're
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  like oh when did your feelings change and he goes oh when I realized any
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  weapon we make you'll use it and that's the thing you make a
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  weapon it's going to be used and it's not the whole idea of deterrence doesn't
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  work oh I thought Gary Oldman was a bit odd in it too that scene was a bit odd I
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  didn't dislike it as such but it was very he can play any world leader any
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  yeah I like it was a little like like
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  soft the the the phrasing that he uses in that scene was Verbatim what he
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  actually said yeah okay well then in that case I take it back cuz I I felt it
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  was just like I was like okay yeah we got it but then we like get that whining
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  little you know don't let him back in here or whatever whatever whining little
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  crybaby or whatever was yeah yeah whatever he says I was like okay a
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  literal but he really said that evidently said it but not he didn't say
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  it to oppenheimer's face like he didn't say it as he was closing the door still
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  with an ear shot said it later on when somebody asked him about it he said oh
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  that winging little crybaby or whatever it was what should we do with last Elm
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  now give back to the Indians and they're both like no that's not going to happen
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  mate yeah well I just want to go back to that thing where he he's in the office
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  like and he's naked and Phil cuz that wasn't him imagining that that was his
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  wife which I just remember that makes even weirder like it wasn't because it's
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  meant to be all about human then there's just this scene where it's his wife
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  imagining this and yeah it was just she knew she already knew that he'd gone
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  back to her so I don't know it was just and and like that kind of thing hadn't
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  happened so I mean I knew what it was doing it wasn't like there was one why
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  is he naked I'm so confused no I knew what he was doing it's just cuz he gave
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  his speech at the end when and he was imagining everyone dead and everything
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  so there was another time where he did do it but but it was still him yes I I
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  agree with that luk and actually I was expecting a little more of that in the
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  black and white sequences because I know they said black and white sequences are
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  purely subjective and color sequence are objective but I feel they only leaned
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  into that a couple of times and and they really could have um I also thought it
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  was just a little bit OD and Nolan does get criticized for not giving women
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  enough dialogue to chew on um and the scene with um Emily Blunt was was very
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  very good except that you were like where was this for the rest of the
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  [ __ ] movie if I was going say until that point I was like [ __ ] the women
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  don't get a lot of time in this do they view just like a thing he uses and
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  then tosses pair of tits and his wife's the same thing yeah yeah just smaller
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  tits but I think that's also a product of the
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  tire I don't think sure a product a he was also meant to be he was also meant
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  to be a big womanizer and you didn't I don't really get that from only two
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  women I agree but myv of the movie is when it was such a small line but when
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  he goes oh blah blah blah died of a broken heart because he found out that
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  um you having an affair with his wife and he goes impossible he never found out yeah yeah
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  yeah that's a really good line in it too I look I thought it was it one of the
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  best Pi I've ever seen said to him early on something about algebra is like Opera
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  it doesn't matter if you can read sheet music can you hear the
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  music I was like oh that's a good line yeah I think I think that is actually a
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  quote from somebody I think I just wanted or I felt I was over
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  promised that sub that subjectivity in that black and white sequence that I was
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  waiting for something more imaginative to happen yeah that's fair um but then
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  again that's not the movie's fault that I wanted something
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  different I have something else to say but I'll say it after cuz after we talk
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  about the next movie no it's not spoiler no no no so we also watch
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  Barbie uh so did you just go by yourself or did you
• 24:16
  just out way too much didn't we it's out
• 24:19
  Barbie's out I watched it it's fine M yeah I laughed a lot it's fine yeah I
• 24:25
  laughed a lot that hilarious it's definitely not the movie you thought
• 24:30
  it once I figured out it wasn't all about horses my favorite scenes when Ken all
• 24:36
  that whole sequence where he's trying to get a job yeah but he's in there and and
• 24:39
  he's like uh can I speak to a doctor and she's like I am a doctor he go oh can
• 24:44
  you get me a coffee yeah oh there he is hang on a minute it was good because um
• 24:50
  like any anyone who says it's like anti-man or or whatever it's way too
• 24:54
  feminist and Stu it's like you haven't seen the movie because even into the
• 25:01
  patriarchy not yeah he's like just because I'm a man doesn't mean I can get the job here
• 25:07
  and they're like no not if you don't have a degree like yeah you know like it
• 25:12
  doesn't work for him as well and until he creates his own you know k at the end
• 25:17
  but uh he goes even cuz he's he's not a lifeguard he's his job is Beach his
• 25:22
  Beach but then he goes in the LIF guard's like well you can't rescue
• 25:25
  anybody from here and he is well not qualified to rescue anybody anyway so
• 25:27
  that works great that's right yeah but when she's like where does Ken live and
• 25:32
  she's like I have no idea no
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  idea um evidently and I don't know this to be true but I I read it as a fact on
• 25:42
  the internet um somebody said that the pilot on their plane was like um my
• 25:47
  name's Ken my job is plain and I thought than you that's
• 25:52
  good no with you what if this beach you'll need an expert yes
• 25:59
  yeah he was like he it's CU it's it's not the kids movie that I thought was going to
• 26:05
  be even like At first I thought it was a bit and as it went later on I was like
• 26:10
  kids aren't going to understand what the [ __ ] this is about no I I don't know
• 26:14
  about you Matt but when Rita rutner starts [ __ ] tugging on the
• 26:18
  heartstrings talking about daughters and oh man I really I really got me really
• 26:22
  moved really moved it was good the um I mean
• 26:28
  obviously the Kens have it worse I'm joking I'm being fous in that
• 26:35
  world they do because I was like well I mean Ken don't even get to live in a
• 26:37
  house we don't know where they live no that's right so women stop complaining
• 26:42
  yeah and there is that but there's there also that great moment that's what I
• 26:45
  liked about it is because everyone is coming down either it's man hating or
• 26:48
  it's to this or to that there's that point where that woman who was the
• 26:51
  president is now swimming beer and then and she's like don't you hate this she's
• 26:56
  like to be honest it's kind of nice to not have a a lot of responsibility for a
• 26:59
  change like and like yeah what point is this movie trying to make it's actually
• 27:03
  not trying to make one point at all it's just trying to say pointing out things
• 27:08
  complicated yeah that's right it's pointing out new on both sides and
• 27:11
  that's that's what I really liked about it yeah no I did like it I didn't you
• 27:16
  know like I said didn't didn't BL me away as I just cuz everyone was talking
• 27:20
  it up and it was such a big thing and I watch the worst I saw it when I still
• 27:25
  thought it was going to be absolute garbage so and I think that's the best
• 27:28
  you're pleasantly surprised yeah yeah you're probably right well yeah I think
• 27:32
  like cuz I heard someone say before I went to see it like if you love barie
• 27:35
  you're going to love this movie if you don't like Barbie you're still gonna
• 27:37
  love this movie and I think that does work because it is just it's a good fun
• 27:43
  movie same script verbatim but He-Man goes oh way they've done that it was the
• 27:49
  original it was awful with quor oh no it's because I couldn't animate
• 27:55
  snarf that's right um talking about doing another He-Man yeah no no they got
• 28:01
  canned do it properly and I got no problem with it I think it got canned
• 28:04
  yeah they got until Barbie made a billion dollars for Matel
• 28:08
  Point mat's all about the money at the moment anymore I got say I can't do Will
• 28:14
  Farrell anymore and and will farell and Kate McKinnon I just can't I know I look
• 28:19
  I I never liked the Saturday Night Live
• 28:22
  style of Comedy post uh I still laughed at things in the scenes they were in yes
• 28:28
  good one but I was going to I was not going to say that but that's a better
• 28:31
  one yeah that crew with the why can't I think of the worst actor in the world
• 28:36
  but he used to be my favorite comedian [ __ ] hell Chris Farley but that era all of his
• 28:42
  friends Chase way after that the 90s who am I thinking of [ __ ] Billy Billy [ __ ]
• 28:49
  Madison Adam Sandler Adam sand Sandler that era I never liked their Satur Night
• 28:56
  Live but I liked their movies came out
• 28:58
  of it yeah um but then I so I'm old
• 29:03
  Chris Farley so they're going to be my examples Black Sheep yeah Black Sheep I
• 29:08
  mean those aren't good movies but they're not good but they were fun I
• 29:12
  don't know the end of [ __ ] Billy Madison where they doing the quiz and
• 29:15
  that guy's like if anyone attempts to
• 29:16
  cheat like my wife who's a dirty dirty
• 29:23
  [ __ ] like that's that's Classic Cinema take no Christopher
• 29:30
  [Laughter] Nolin I have to say one thing just to follow up on what you guys were talking
• 29:36
  about I I don't think I'll ever watch barie again despite how much I like I'm
• 29:40
  sure I won't either I'm sure I but I already did try and see if I could see
• 29:43
  Oppenheimer and IMAX and I I I'll definitely watch it again I just wanted
• 29:47
  to put that out there I will [ __ ] watch this again but would you put it on
• 29:51
  at home yeah if I if I could well it's not a movie I could put on you know if
• 29:56
  L's running around and the [ __ ] going on right if I could sit down and just like
• 30:00
  again like I did just sit there with a scotch and just [ __ ] drink it in yeah
• 30:04
  I would yeah but yeah but communing to that 3 hours that would be quite
• 30:11
  difficult that be the problem at home why three hours no that's the thing I
• 30:17
  honestly that is a nice thing about going to the movies is that I'm in there
• 30:21
  to watch the movie it's like being on a plane you on a plane it's like I'm just
• 30:25
  going to watch a movie and no one can [ __ ] annoy me because what are they going
• 30:28
  with children it's out more concerned that she's going
• 30:34
  to happily sit there and watch a movie good point yeah I've ruin that for
• 30:38
  myself too then yeah no I I always love PL for that reason no one can call
• 30:44
  me okay yeah Barbie so I enjoyed my homework we've all seen the same two
• 30:50
  movies y well three Indiana Jones we watched too yeah oh yeah it was a good
• 30:56
  year for movie for I'll say this I thought Indiana Jones was the worst of
• 31:00
  three and I I hate that it was but it it absolutely was for me although it's
• 31:04
  probably the one I'm most likely to watch again oh so we watched another
• 31:09
  movie too this is not a recent release it's just another really good movie that
• 31:12
  I'll give a shout out to that I think I'm pretty sure Dan you like and that's
• 31:16
  Ponty pool oh Ponty paol is magnificent yeah so that's a good movie that's one
• 31:21
  of my favorite like all in one place
• 31:26
  yeah good Indie good of we just have this one set it's a cool radio station
• 31:31
  set and it's like a it's like aie movie but you're just see it from this one
• 31:35
  guy's point of view if it's like a call-in radio show and he's like this
• 31:40
  cool disc joogy and it's yeah great movie and people are calling in talking
• 31:45
  about this [ __ ] weird [ __ ] happening outside they biting him and he's like
• 31:49
  what are you talking about like yeah so good it's really good so good great
• 31:54
  movie no yeah that's you saw that for the first time no no no no no no we uh
• 31:59
  just rewatched it just Jenna was just like I want to watch ponti pool I was
• 32:01
  like [ __ ] yeah let's watch that so so I've been on a I've been on Johnny Depp
• 32:07
  movie marathon uh recently uh just keep we stand with Johnny Depp Shing out no
• 32:12
  don't stand with him but I'll happily watch his movies I watch Rum Diary
• 32:16
  because that's the one where he actually met Amber herd for the first time she's
• 32:20
  great in it they're both great it's funny movie [ __ ] it's funny um he plays
• 32:25
  hundr Thompson essentially um it's
• 32:28
  Thompson Adventure um but uh there's one bit he had many of those there's one bit
• 32:34
  where he's like um he gets a job down in um Puerto Rico as a as a journalist and
• 32:41
  uh he's like the the last guy that I'm replacing did he go back to America or
• 32:46
  what and they're like no he was raped to death and he's like raped to death and
• 32:50
  they're like yeah raped to death he's like raped to death and he's like yeah
• 32:56
  raped to death there's not a lot of places on this island I wouldn't go but
• 32:59
  the toilets down by the docks are definitely one of them he's like sorry
• 33:04
  raped to death like it's really funny all
• 33:10
  right what's it called again the rum di R yeah yeah yeah okay I'm going to write
• 33:16
  that down yeah I mean just it's not going to change your life but it's it's no
• 33:21
  op to have on yeah what I like about Johnny Depp is
• 33:27
  that for the most handsome man in the world arguably he's very happy to look
• 33:32
  like a [ __ ] idiot you know he does these
• 33:35
  Expressions um clueless expressions and you can believe like you believe it when
• 33:41
  women think is attractive but for some reason you always also believe it when
• 33:44
  women think he's a bit of a DG idiot yeah and so he's relatable in a way that
• 33:49
  a lot of you know Brad Pit for example isn't Brad Pit cannot play not
• 33:55
  handsome sure yeah yeah I can't think of anything he's been
• 34:00
  in that would want to Brad put you
• 34:06
  mean yeah exactly exactly even as a much older man now Leo can do Le Caprio can
• 34:11
  do both I call him Leo he can do both yeah um I think it took him a while to
• 34:16
  get there though but I think Leo was a
• 34:20
  fantastic looking younger man sure and now he's going to be and a slightly oddl
• 34:26
  looking old man see I think the opposite
• 34:31
  way how track [ __ ]
• 34:36
  K because there was a trailer for that new Scorsese film before Oppenheimer as
• 34:40
  well and he's in that and he's looking like he's I think he's put on wait for
• 34:44
  it he's looking a bit weird and that's what he's also the only man in Hollywood
• 34:48
  that doesn't look possibly the only man ever who doesn't look better with a
• 34:51
  beard you know everyone else grows a beard and you're like [ __ ] yeah you look
• 34:55
  serious now you look sick yeah he grows a beard and you're like oh shave that off
• 35:00
  mate I don't think so
• 35:05
  yeah I need to trim my beard speaking of um men with oh no we're not going to
• 35:10
  talk about now teaser for the Afterparty RS have gone to jail find out who and
• 35:17
  find out what we think and find out who else has been canell over the whole
• 35:20
  thing we can seg we can segue to something related to Oppenheimer um
• 35:26
  Christopher Nolan Bond rumors are back there's not much to
• 35:30
  say about this except that the rumors about it again and I think then one of
• 35:34
  the broccoli say oh yeah he's a good director like like that [ __ ] means anything yeah he
• 35:38
  is now he said his quote was he would love to do a James Bond film but he
• 35:43
  would only do it if they let him do it however he wanted and that's not
• 35:48
  generally what the broccolis are about it means like
• 35:54
  this yeah um I don't think he would make a good Bond movie I think he did make a
• 36:01
  good Bond movie it was called tenet and it was one of the best Bond movies not
• 36:04
  about James Bond and also had time travel um yeah I don't know I just I
• 36:10
  don't think he could I watched a movie this week had two of the actors from
• 36:14
  tenet in it um oh yeah that I didn't know were in this movie before I started
• 36:19
  watching it it was called Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire right oh yeah had
• 36:23
  not seen that before cuz I'd only seen up to the prisoner of aaban
• 36:28
  oh go of fire is the no that's not a good one it's got uh Robert Paton yes
• 36:34
  and I didn't know he was he die I don't I'm not gotten to the end yet but thanks
• 36:37
  Cedric Di and um it's also got it's got
• 36:42
  that woman who says don't [ __ ] worry about the plot Just Go With It When
• 36:47
  She's telling protagonist how to pick up
• 36:51
  books but I'm a young and very beautiful
• 36:56
  woman very beautiful okay interesting I haven't watched that
• 37:02
  movie in ages yeah I remember that not being one of the best ones I mean all
• 37:06
  the Harry Potters are pretty no it's pretty good yeah I I'll say this though
• 37:09
  because I I waited till I was in my 40s before I started watching Harry Potter
• 37:12
  right because I I was you know in my 20s before they were even written so I
• 37:16
  missed the first boat um I'm going back now I thought the first Harry Potter
• 37:20
  movie was amazing like Flawless Perfect music perfect everything just like just
• 37:26
  a wonderful movie and the second one was my favorite kind of sequel just more
• 37:30
  like the first one you know what I mean exactly the first one but another story
• 37:33
  then the third one they changed it it went all dark and I was like oh come on
• 37:38
  and I like dark stuff just as much as the next guy but this is Harry Potter
• 37:41
  like where are the colors what's this faded green that everything is now and
• 37:46
  and this I then I just sort of got bit over it and then just the story does go
• 37:51
  that way in the books too though like it it just gets darker I tell you though
• 37:55
  guys I'm waiting for all the transphobia and just can't see it you won't find it
• 38:00
  it wasn't in there back then there well then why she used to be like quite a
• 38:04
  good she was seen as a very liberal kind of champion of the you know the LGBT I
• 38:11
  mean it's not very hold on it's not very diverse I haven't come across any
• 38:14
  non-whites I haven't come across any non-hero like it it's well you will in
• 38:20
  Goblet of Fire cuz isn't Cho in that Cho okay sure the most British Asian person
• 38:27
  I've ever SE yeah yeah and she's she's Asian so her name is cho chong I think yes but she
• 38:32
  talks like the queen probably yeah I think she was sort of
• 38:38
  very on right well not the right side but she was sort of you can say the
• 38:44
  right side we know the correct side like dador gay and all this stuff
• 38:50
  right like she was sort of very and then stuff came out that she didn't like and
• 38:56
  she was against that but the beginning was she was going back basically say oh
• 39:00
  yeah that's but just to be clear I didn't say hanani wasn't black that's
• 39:04
  what she said one point everyone was like does it say pretty heavily implied
• 39:09
  skin was as white as porcelain or something ah maybe I don't know I you
• 39:15
  know what I I've not read any of the books I just I heard an argument against
• 39:19
  that that says if you didn't say she was might be right you heavily implied it oh
• 39:23
  it is it is heavily implied yeah and also she goes to a posh board School in
• 39:27
  Scotland which also heavily implies it sure I mean let's be honest
• 39:33
  right um you reminded me um the Creator is coming out oh I cannot wait I forget
• 39:39
  what you said that reminded me but yes I'm [ __ ] excited about that cuz and I
• 39:42
  also found out that Hans did the music for it oh did he oh what a great combo
• 39:46
  so I'm even more excited at this point Edwards plus Hans so I'll be to do his
• 39:52
  own sci-fi movie however he wants can't believe it I'm so excited
• 39:57
  yeah me too oh I I haven't heard about this movie but backrop of war between
• 40:04
  humans robots with artificial intelligence a former Soldier finds the
• 40:07
  secret weapon a robot in the form of a young child yeah it looks sick it looks
• 40:11
  fantastic I need to watch this before we get off Nolan's James Bond entirely i'
• 40:17
  just like to say one other thing that I think could work um Nolan has worked
• 40:24
  with Aaron Taylor Johnson before who who was the big bearded Soldier calling the
• 40:30
  shots at the end in that double pincer action sequence yeah uh he was also
• 40:36
  kickass um yep and he has come out and
• 40:40
  said unashamedly I want to be James Bond and I think that could work so I think
• 40:45
  if Christopher noo directs Aaron Taylor Johnson Stars I think that that could
• 40:50
  really work oh he's going to be um Craven as well Craven the hunter so oh
• 40:55
  yeah that looks awful though I don't know I think that looks just balls to the
• 40:59
  wall action and I'm it looks [ __ ] insane he gets bitten by a lion and gets
• 41:04
  lion Powers that's all on but that's straight out of the comics man I mean if
• 41:09
  you want to start going come on Spider-Man gets bitten by a spider and
• 41:13
  get spider powers all right it's a radioactive spider though it's
• 41:17
  different wait wait till you see it come on it might yeah let's let's go I didn't
• 41:23
  watch morbius yet I guess of course you didn't nobody did why would
• 41:27
  no watch I I I still love how they thought that people wanting to watch it
• 41:32
  again so they tried to re-release it to cinema does he actually say it's morbin
• 41:37
  time in the the movie sure he doesn't that's what everybody online
• 41:43
  talks about they like I love that scene it's morbin time and it's a picture of
• 41:47
  Jared Leto in the movie and then I just I'm like I hope he does say it because
• 41:52
  that's insane that's an insane thing to put in a movie yeah
• 41:58
  um J Robert Jewish right yes oh that's the
• 42:04
  thing I was GNA talk about yeah okay before the movie He Got Away With
• 42:09
  It CU he didn't put on a fake nose just to tie this back to last week's show yes
• 42:14
  you know no one says a word about you playing a Jew providing you don't put on
• 42:20
  makeup so I didn't think about any of that before the movie I sat down and
• 42:24
  then the very first thing that played was a a like a I guess short film SL you
• 42:30
  know like public service announcement style thing where a woman gets like like
• 42:35
  you know [ __ ] die sprayed on her garage and like a swasty car and and
• 42:39
  then she tells get in the car get in the car and then she drives off and when she
• 42:42
  comes back like and the neighbor's looking and when she comes back it's
• 42:46
  gone and the neighbor's got paint on his shoe and she she she goes oh see honey
• 42:52
  it's okay and then she she goes oh thank you to him and then it came up and it
• 42:55
  said um you know don't be mean to Jews kind basically like it was like the
• 43:01
  called the Blue Square to not be mean to I was like I was like do we need to be told that
• 43:07
  apparently we do and then I was so confused about it and then and then
• 43:10
  there was another one later and then it came up and it said you know like Jews
• 43:12
  have targeted in the in the US you know blah blah blah even though they make
• 43:16
  such a small percentage of population blah blah blah blah all this stuff and I
• 43:20
  was like cool okay fair enough and then and then the movie started and I was
• 43:25
  like oh that makes more sense now like is it just before this movie
• 43:31
  yeah or are they just doing this now because this movie does feature people
• 43:35
  being discriminated against because of because they're Jewish so I was like is
• 43:39
  that why it was shown I mean set during and before World War II so it's the
• 43:43
  right for it you would like to think they don't anymore but I guess they do
• 43:47
  yeah I was just curious whether it's is it is it because of the movie contains
• 43:52
  that as a theme or is it because America is [ __ ]
• 43:57
  like I wasn't sure I think it might have been a bit of both so I wouldn't if i'
• 44:01
  seen barie movies and there a a trailer at the start of Barbie that said stop
• 44:07
  being mean to Jewish people then I'd know CU yeah you could have one that
• 44:11
  says you know pay women what men get like maybe every movie needs a little
• 44:16
  thing before it the problem is like in
• 44:19
  Australia our racism is so hidden right like it would have to come up like oh
• 44:26
  don't marginalize the Aboriginal people and then people half the people in the
• 44:29
  cinema would be like I've never seen an Aboriginal person and it's like that's
• 44:32
  the marginalization we're talking
• 44:36
  about yeah yep anyway yeah just it about to vote or whether or not they get a
• 44:41
  voice in Parliament that's literally how they're phrasing it too yeah huh it's
• 44:46
  called The Voice vote Yes or No to get a
• 44:50
  voice they didn't previously well I mean they could if there weren't any racial
• 44:55
  hurdles to jump over oh
• 44:59
  huh yeah it's it's it's not yeah it's make sure that they've got they're being
• 45:04
  heard they've got wait in that's there for them not uh you have to be voted in
• 45:11
  they've got to have something that's there no matter what that's yeah that's
• 45:14
  the it applies to the stuff in bar applies to racist stuff over here
• 45:17
  generally this kind of thing is that when when the when things are set up as
• 45:20
  they are because of you know what happened in the past you kind of have to
• 45:26
  go a little hard in the other direction in order to fix it because to bring it
• 45:31
  back up because otherwise it's just not going to happen there a race of people
• 45:34
  starting because the status quo is pretty good for certain people and they
• 45:39
  don't want it to change golf it's called a handicap no one complains you know
• 45:44
  we've got to do it I mean most of the world most of the
• 45:49
  world's problems can be today can be summed up with one word colonialization you know
• 45:55
  like on this comedy podcast that's
• 46:01
  right let's move on to something fun what have we got sure oh I've been
• 46:06
  playing a video game this week have you I I've been wanting to ask I've been
• 46:10
  playing St have you been playing um I've playing Starfield um what do you think I
• 46:16
  really like it I really like it I've got a couple of issues with it but not big
• 46:21
  issues I agree with you all that uh it it it rocketed you into the story line
• 46:26
  in a in in a a way that felt a little bit unearned except that I just went
• 46:30
  back to that story line to finish off stuff that relates to that and it kind
• 46:35
  of feel okay that maybe that was it just
• 46:39
  felt very very rushed but that's okay um like we need to get this guy a spaceship
• 46:44
  let's something just give it let just someone walk up to him and goes the KE
• 46:49
  someone to drive this spaceship to a certain place maybe he could like run it
• 46:53
  follow a a realtor and uh save his son from
• 46:58
  a I give you a with a very low we rate um
• 47:05
  you I did find it very familiar that you you touch an alien Relic and have a
• 47:11
  vision and mass very familiar we've played this game before yeah they need
• 47:18
  to steal something else well not steal something else Mass Effect in they need
• 47:23
  to bring the make mo mo in oh yeah I need a vehicle for exploring planets
• 47:29
  yeah that does get Ted slow yeah it's tedious yeah um I'll say this though
• 47:35
  here's my one criticism I like it all I like the dialogue I like the
• 47:39
  characterization I like the story line and all of that it's really good it's
• 47:45
  less like Skyrim in many ways I think I think it's more it's it's definitely
• 47:49
  Fallout in space it's just Fallout it looks like a reskinned Fallout
• 47:54
  but but with Fallout you can there's continuity for everything you walk out
• 47:59
  of one place into another place you still feel like you've got that place
• 48:03
  behind you you know you can wander in between them and and and explore this
• 48:07
  you leave one system for another system you watch a a cut screen and then you
• 48:11
  watch a load screen it feels disconnected in a way that I don't
• 48:16
  really like especially I probably and now this would be tedious but that said
• 48:21
  I probably would like it if it was more like no man's sky where I had to fly
• 48:23
  from one planet to another because at least then I would feel like it was one
• 48:28
  continuous game because once you do get around and explore part of the Galaxy
• 48:32
  you end up just fast traveling everywhere yeah yeah and I think and I think that's
• 48:39
  just something that they maybe this why they took a little bit longer with the
• 48:42
  game they'll try I think they'll try and to work something out for that space
• 48:45
  part CU I think that's missing something I don't know what it is I think may just
• 48:50
  be the fact you aren't flying to places you just do and I still think like when
• 48:54
  you when you you fly to a planet by just selecting it in a menu or more like I
• 49:00
  just go find on map when I go into the the
• 49:04
  the quest screen find on map screen takes you right there okay hit go to
• 49:10
  there and then when you get there you do that you process again and you and you
• 49:13
  just zoom in it shows you the spots you okay I'll say this I have tried to do
• 49:18
  that to a system that's too far away where you have to do multiple jumps and
• 49:22
  it won't let you and then it won't let you it says no no to do this you would
• 49:26
  have to jump to to a system you haven't explored yet so you're going to have to
• 49:28
  do that first okay okay do that but once you get once you get a good ship that's
• 49:33
  not a thing anymore right yeah right cuz I can just go
• 49:37
  anywhere I stole a new ship I called it the I named it the trash Panda really
• 49:43
  your big isn't it these ships from when I get land any still letting you walk
• 49:48
  aboard I don't have a choice Danny I am armed and I am coming aboard that is
• 49:53
  funny because I mean obviously this is Skyrim uh fall out everything you are
• 50:00
  ridiculously overdressed for a lot of the situations you find yourself in
• 50:04
  like like when I'm just in the lodge just chilling out with those people who
• 50:08
  are wearing like just like my helmet still on yeah exactly like I'm you can
• 50:12
  hide that you there's an option to hide them when you're in areas except people
• 50:16
  still talk to you as if you're wearing a space suit because yeah right I toggled
• 50:21
  the option so when I go into third person it looks like I'm just wearing
• 50:24
  clothes but then someone goes what are you wearing that helmet for and I was
• 50:27
  like I'm not I'm not there are a couple of bugs like that I also I took um I
• 50:33
  took a companion into space that sounds a bit took a companion uh into space at
• 50:39
  one point and the she wasn't wearing a space suit where she clearly was meant
• 50:44
  to be but her voice was still filtered as if it was through a helmet oh so it's
• 50:49
  just that the skin didn't load properly or something so I going to say this is
• 50:53
  the least buggy Bethesda game it's not bad that
• 50:58
  yeah there's like a couple of minor things I've seen some videos but nothing
• 51:03
  like compared to like Fallout when that came out Skyrim you walk into a room and
• 51:07
  all the physics screws up and everything just starts flying around the room I
• 51:10
  haven't had that happen yeah no they did a good good job
• 51:15
  no I'm I'm enjoying it yeah I'm gonna I'm GNA go back I had a little bit of a
• 51:20
  break from it I just felt like playing something else so took a little break
• 51:23
  but I'm going to go back to it today because we' got I was playing the crew I
• 51:28
  was playing a driving game oh yeah that came out the other day just yeah I
• 51:33
  actually got Ubisoft Plus for it so because I didn't want to pay $100 for it
• 51:36
  so I just subscribed for a month cancel it instantly I'll play the game I just
• 51:41
  like something where I didn't have to think yep
• 51:44
  sure so you watch play because we got cyber Punk coming
• 51:50
  out yeah so I've I've got cyberp punk 2.0 releases September
• 51:57
  sorry September 21st very exciting very exciting soon so soon
• 52:02
  after after Starfield that's an
• 52:06
  odd not that the the the Mac version of Boulders gate will finally be released
• 52:12
  that same day the 21st so I can actually start playing that properly too and I'm
• 52:17
  glad I didn't B for you mat start playing it in the Early Access thing cuz
• 52:20
  I learned from somebody who did the PC version won't copy a lot changes when
• 52:26
  the final release comes out and yes they do in it might be different with the PC
• 52:31
  I don't know how they're going to handle this on on this but in their case they
• 52:35
  did have to basically ditch all their pre-release stuff to and start the game
• 52:39
  over oh that would suck yeah so I'm glad I haven't spent
• 52:44
  too much time on it you know what you're getting yeah Dan I will say we you'll
• 52:48
  get balers Gate 3 on the Xbox before the end of October that's my prediction oh
• 52:52
  okay that's very soon not going to comment I'll get yelled at again we'll see yeah yeah
• 52:56
  that's right you just shut your mouth man you're not welcome in this
• 52:59
  conversation anymore the only thing is if you had an Xbox series s you wouldn't
• 53:03
  be able to play split screen no which I still do not understand bould skate is
• 53:08
  not a split screen game but I just do not understand why
• 53:12
  Xbox are trying to divide Their audience like they're selling two consoles now
• 53:16
  this is this is nonsensical well no no that's the thing they're trying not to
• 53:20
  divide they well I I mean I know but they are but they've got one that can do
• 53:27
  things that the other can't but they're not letting the developers take
• 53:30
  advantage of the one that can yeah it's just a bit yeah I don't I
• 53:34
  don't understand why they did the series s at launch feels
• 53:38
  bizarre yeah it's a bit I mean I understand why but like you don't want
• 53:44
  to hand game developers come on guys you want them to use everything
• 53:49
  available to them let also isn't it kind of like a upsell opportunity like if
• 53:54
  someone's got an Xbox series s and they're like I like Boulders Gate 3 but
• 53:57
  I wish my friend who sat here right next to me could be playing at the same time
• 54:00
  on the same computer same system by a series X yeah every single
• 54:06
  console I mean no the last couple I've bought on you know as soon as they
• 54:10
  released just because I want the next gen but in the early days it was a game
• 54:15
  it was a single game that I was like well I can't play that without the new
• 54:17
  console so guess I'm the new console for sure mhm
• 54:22
  yeah they made I also they need to release new Xbox though I wanted to
• 54:28
  release an Xbox series X without a disc drive oh okay why don't know why I just want
• 54:35
  one just put one you've got the only time I even access the dis drive on the
• 54:40
  Xbox series X is when I'm trying to sync the controller and forget that the
• 54:44
  little sync button is on the other side and I'm pressing eject over and over
• 54:49
  again I use jennis to watch hackers in uh 4K what they should have done cuz they
• 54:55
  released a Series S without the disc drive and the series X with they should
• 54:59
  have swapped that the disc drive should have been on the series s cuz that's a
• 55:02
  cheaper one you can going to cheaper and people are probably going to be buying
• 55:07
  discs for the cheaper I was going to say when was the last time an actual disc
• 55:10
  but you bought one for Starfield right
• 55:13
  oh no didn't get a disc I got a code oh see there you go you going to give it
• 55:19
  away you can't cuz you've claimed it I can't oh wow
• 55:25
  hello on a on a on a chip yeah it's green though I also didn't realize when
• 55:30
  you when you were talking about your watch I didn't realize that watch was an
• 55:33
  actual item in the game amazing yes handed over like the pit boy equivalent
• 55:40
  yeah yeah but yeah that that if they had to me if you had switched over the
• 55:44
  series X was digital I think that would have made more sense to me
• 55:48
  because you can't people you're buying a cheaper one it's probably because you
• 55:52
  don't have them yeah you're buying a cheaper one for a reason and if you're
• 55:56
  using discs would be a better way for if you're worried about that disc because
• 56:01
  you can trade them in borrow things like that digital there's still no way for us
• 56:04
  to on sell or no do anything how much cheaper is it what's i' not even looked
• 56:10
  at the price of an S I think here it's like 200 bucks
• 56:15
  cheaper or something it's $299 instead of $4.99 could be is a significant dis
• 56:22
  difference if you're if you're a mom you know looking for a Christmas present for
• 56:26
  your 299 there two Xboxes and one is very expensive yeah it's $300 difference here
• 56:32
  okay yeah it's decent that's quite a bit you know what else is really expensive
• 56:37
  uh iPhones um I was I was holding out I was holding out getting a new phone
• 56:44
  because I want to get a Max cuz I I just want the more screen real estate and and
• 56:48
  you know the new ones are coming out they got the USBC yeah why not I'll I'll
• 56:51
  I'll have a look at these they're [ __ ] expensive the cheapest one is
• 56:56
  over two grand like it's it's the most expensive phone they've ever made really
• 57:00
  expensive yeah and you get a charger in the Box
• 57:05
  yeah yeah it's pretty intense they do have USBC there also I
• 57:11
  saw there was an article about how like it's it's a they said oh it's a full
• 57:15
  USBC Port it's not limited in any way same as the ones on the iPads and stuff
• 57:19
  and everyone was like Yay and I was like don't get too excited I've got an iPad
• 57:22
  with a USBC Port that doesn't mean your obscure [ __ ] thing is going to work
• 57:26
  with it oh cuz there's no drivers like there's a ton of things
• 57:31
  that I've got that if I plug into my iPad my iPad's like I don't know what
• 57:34
  that is yeah yeah it just doesn't work so like just don't get too excited
• 57:38
  listeners yeah I just I can't get over the price cuz like I've got I've got a
• 57:43
  pixel 7 that cost me what I think it was 1100 like I can't imagine spending
• 57:48
  another thousand my oh that is that the Australian price must be yeah okay cuz
• 57:55
  my I I have a 14 pro Max and I think it
• 58:00
  cost me 1,500 us I think that's what I paid for which is a lot yeah that's yeah
• 58:06
  that's that's I was going to say yeah yeah yeah that's why at first I was like
• 58:09
  hang on but then yeah that is that's far too much for a
• 58:13
  Fone it is and of course you don't have to pay that up front you can just pay it
• 58:17
  off over the course of your plan but $50
• 58:20
  a month extra is a three-year contract
• 58:25
  you know it's $50 a month for three years if you want to do it in one year
• 58:30
  that means you're going to release three phones in that time period exactly
• 58:33
  exactly although I've got I'm still on a 13 Pro right now so I'm two generations
• 58:38
  behind which means three phones so I mean that is that is about what I
• 58:42
  normally do what I normally do is I just once my phone's about to die ready I
• 58:46
  just buy last year's model see I've looked at the 14s now and they haven't
• 58:50
  come down enough that I feel but is it is the new one out yet it's out for
• 58:55
  pre-order wasn't it was ,000 to actually
• 59:00
  release yeah that that sounds better times
• 59:06
  24 my pixel 4 a was 1100 bucks and it was a great phone except it just wasn't
• 59:12
  an iPhone let me see too small for me how
• 59:17
  much is one of those new iPhones here just curious cuz that's [ __ ]
• 59:23
  expensive they haven't announced any new um iPads thank goodness so I don't have
• 59:28
  to worry about whether I'm going to buy one of those yet PR Max from yeah see
• 59:34
  here it's the cheapest one is 1100 bucks 1,200
• 59:39
  bucks the colors aren't that great this time either I know I as in they're all
• 59:43
  gray well no that's cuz the the top tier are titanium yeah yeah yeah I mean they the
• 59:50
  titanium looks cool but then it's like you can't get a colorful one
• 59:55
  anymore okay oh no you you can't you can I think
• 1:00:00
  you get one for 1,600 not the max right well not the max
• 1:00:05
  though yeah they've got cheaper versions of it but if you want the big
• 1:00:10
  screen iPhone 15 Pro Max from
• 1:00:15
  $21.99 from 21.99 wow it's 12 it's 1,200
• 1:00:20
  here that's like a I guess I mean I know it's not dollar for dollar obviously we
• 1:00:24
  trading cents at the moment seems like a big
• 1:00:28
  difference Australia T Max yeah from $21.99
• 1:00:34
  and the colors suck what they cuz I thought would it be cheaper for me to
• 1:00:39
  buy one when one terabyte one one terabyte storage
• 1:00:45
  2900 that's so much money for a phone that's that's that's old timey computer
• 1:00:51
  price yeah but also why are you getting a terabyte on your phone
• 1:00:57
  I mean maybe people use it to film a lot of stuff yeah but you know what you can
• 1:01:02
  do now you can use your USBC to record straight onto an external hard drive
• 1:01:07
  that's a good point yeah you can do that
• 1:01:10
  yeah also Apple's storage prices are
• 1:01:14
  stupid there is no reason their storage prices need to jump up the way that they
• 1:01:18
  do on on all of their Hardware laptops and stuff included like well what are
• 1:01:24
  you paying for storage there I I PID bugger all for storage on Google no no I
• 1:01:29
  mean like physically like if you buy a laptop how much disc space do you want
• 1:01:32
  inside of it right they they're they're different because they're like you know
• 1:01:37
  there it's like a they're not like standard ssds that you can slot in
• 1:01:42
  they're like solded into the board and so they the transfer speeds are higher
• 1:01:45
  and all that kind of stuff but at the end of the day it's still the same chips
• 1:01:48
  that are in there right and there's no the the the price that it costs to go
• 1:01:52
  from 512 to 1 TB in a laptop on a Mac is [ __ ] insane compared to what it
• 1:01:59
  should be I I just I need to tell our our listeners something and our
• 1:02:05
  viewers you should feel bad about yourself if you were going out and
• 1:02:09
  spending $33,000 on this phone you should really feel bad about yourself
• 1:02:15
  that's a mean thing to say people do what they want Luke Who Are You Luke you
• 1:02:20
  in particular luk not entitled to sweat his own brow this is very UNL to be
• 1:02:26
  telling people no you can't do what you want you're a bad person for doing what
• 1:02:30
  you want Luke how many giant Batmobile ajacent Lego sets have you got in your
• 1:02:36
  house I've only got two I do want a third one though although I do have three
• 1:02:43
  sorry what did your wife say when your Starfield [ __ ] deluxe edition arrived
• 1:02:48
  by the way you follow on that thing where you're wait by the you thought you
• 1:02:51
  get KCK out of the house intercept it look I'm gonna say one thing people
• 1:02:56
  should listen to my advice I give great advice I don't listen to my own advice
• 1:03:01
  but I do give good advice so your advice is don't buy an iPhone 15 Pro Max well
• 1:03:06
  no you don't need to tell me I can't afford one I just PL old
• 1:03:11
  can't if you if you were to get one I'm saying don't get the one terab one just
• 1:03:16
  get the 256 gig oh even then oh sure mine's 512 because I do have [ __ ] on
• 1:03:22
  there no I don't have games I I I only have apps and and pictures that's it
• 1:03:26
  that's it like say save yourself I probably didn't need to get 512 I'll be
• 1:03:30
  honest but I did because I was like well I had 256 the last two phones yeah
• 1:03:35
  exactly you know exponential but yeah I don't think the price difference was this much
• 1:03:41
  between no no but and again looking at the prices here to me they seem more
• 1:03:45
  reasonable than than it sounds the Australian prices are this one 256 gig
• 1:03:50
  is 2200 and it jumps up to 25 I remember when I was going to buy new one I was in
• 1:03:57
  Australia and I thought I wonder if it's cheaper to buy it here and I remember
• 1:04:00
  looking and going [ __ ] no it's not yeah so I waited till I got home
• 1:04:06
  yeah yeah not going to be doing that just be satisfied with my own phone for
• 1:04:09
  now which is still working perfectly just want it to be bigger just a shame
• 1:04:13
  you can't get into the pixels or something because they are a lot cheaper that is
• 1:04:19
  true before we go to the Afterparty which we do need to do soon I just
• 1:04:23
  wanted to know did you guys have you guys been watching this Unity stuff
• 1:04:26
  what's been going on with un follow me a little yeah I what I heard from it is UN
• 1:04:31
  you're trying to bring in your pricing structure so you you pay them to use the
• 1:04:34
  engine and then there's going to be something built in so that when people
• 1:04:38
  download your game MH a portion of what you make from it needs to be paid back
• 1:04:44
  to it Unity or stupid than that every
• 1:04:48
  time somebody installs your game on any platform like an install right so if I
• 1:04:55
  you buy it you install it you delete it you install it again you delete it
• 1:04:57
  install it again every one of those installs will cost the developer 20 it's
• 1:05:03
  insan oh that's insane what are you talking about that's what everybody's
• 1:05:08
  like what the [ __ ] are you talking about so Unity for those who don't know is a
• 1:05:12
  game engine it has been a fantastic platform like this is the one that I I
• 1:05:17
  learned it cuz it just seemed really great like you could use it for free and
• 1:05:21
  then once you started earning over a certain amount of money you had to pay
• 1:05:24
  you uh unreal event did the same thing mhm um but now Unity got bought out and
• 1:05:31
  they've been doing stupider and stupider things and this is just [ __ ] it's
• 1:05:35
  Madness and so there are games like uh Cult of the Lamb which uses Unity they
• 1:05:41
  said byy it now we are pulling the game because we we cannot do this like we
• 1:05:47
  cannot afford because no that it's retroactive if you made a game any any
• 1:05:54
  game that's and then people now people are like is that legal apparently it
• 1:05:58
  might be we're going to find out retroactively any game out there right now like
• 1:06:03
  uh disco elium was uh made in unity so
• 1:06:07
  now anytime anybody installs disco elium the developers charge 20 cents and then
• 1:06:14
  so people were like couldn't somebody just to to punish a
• 1:06:19
  developer write a script to like install delete install delete install delete
• 1:06:23
  install delete and they're like yeah I guess they could see when I first heard about it I
• 1:06:28
  thought it was just like when someone like purchased a game there was going to
• 1:06:31
  be a one-off and I for me if you're looking at new pricing wasn't a terrible thing
• 1:06:37
  sure it was very free the actual the actual thing when you look at it is just
• 1:06:42
  is really stupid and even to the point where like Penny Arcade made a comic
• 1:06:45
  about it that's how obviously stupid it is like these guys they're not g i mean
• 1:06:49
  they the game adjacent and you know it used to be I don't know how it is these
• 1:06:54
  days it used to be Penny I made a comic about you that was not good if it was
• 1:06:59
  making fun of you MH and then yeah this comic is quite scathing so I just don't
• 1:07:05
  understand first of all I don't understand why anybody would ever use
• 1:07:09
  Unity ever again now because even that people are saying oh they have to roll
• 1:07:14
  this back it's too stupid they'll roll it back doesn't matter mate the fact
• 1:07:17
  that they even tried to do this is such a red flag I would never make a game in
• 1:07:23
  this engine yeah cuz I saw people oh we're going to boycott and I got you a
• 1:07:26
  bit over the top when but no for inst I still can't inst yeah it's
• 1:07:32
  really stupid it's it's I think the whoever bought the company just doesn't
• 1:07:36
  know what the [ __ ] going on oh did they recently sell is that what happened
• 1:07:40
  yeah yeah they got bought out yeah and then since then they've been doing
• 1:07:43
  progressively stupider and stupider things and this is just like
• 1:07:48
  insanity so yeah so like I said yeah games games have uh pull they're Cult of
• 1:07:53
  the Lamb apparently going to pull the whole game from sale just to because
• 1:07:56
  they can't they can't deal with it a bunch of Indie developers said they may
• 1:07:59
  be forced to do the same thing yeah yeah per in like every time somebody installs
• 1:08:04
  it like Inc literally so stupid the installed definition installation and
• 1:08:10
  initiation of a game or app on N users device as well as distribution via
• 1:08:15
  stream is considered an install yeah games or apps will subsequently similar
• 1:08:19
  contact may be counted as one project with Zs aggregated to Cal each Unity runtime fee
• 1:08:26
  so saying you if they do an add-on later that wouldn't be counted but
• 1:08:30
  installation installation a game or app device on a
• 1:08:36
  device yeahi streaming so I mean you look look around
• 1:08:42
  a bunch of game developers have come out and said
• 1:08:45
  like basically they just this is not feasible so it's almost certainly not
• 1:08:52
  going to happen because it's not possible mm to like to do this and also
• 1:08:58
  demos if you make a demo of a game you have to pay every time they install the
• 1:09:01
  demo it like it says that specifically it's Madness yeah that's insane that's
• 1:09:07
  that's so so so I could make a game yes
• 1:09:12
  it's sold very badly one person buys it
• 1:09:15
  y I sell it to them for a dollar y they install it yeah not for me but then come
• 1:09:22
  back 6 months later install it 6 months later install they keep and and you only
• 1:09:27
  got 70 cents from Steam anyway after the from the dollar I'm just cuz this person
• 1:09:31
  keeps coming back to give my game a try another game only you could release a
• 1:09:35
  game sell it for a dollar and they go I'm not sure I'll install the demo
• 1:09:39
  version and then delete it and install the demo and install the demo install
• 1:09:42
  the demo install the demo and then now you're bankrupt mhm you didn't get
• 1:09:46
  anything it's never a good idea to price your customers out of the market you
• 1:09:51
  know it's crazy yeah it's really stupid this is made by a decision of someone
• 1:09:54
  who doesn't understand 100% And that's like I said everyone's saying Oh They'll
• 1:09:59
  roll this back but it doesn't matter now the damage is done yeah like why would
• 1:10:03
  you ever like as a new if you were starting a new project why would you
• 1:10:07
  ever choose Unity now you can't trust them I mean it and it's it it's like
• 1:10:13
  what can other game engines do this too it's going to have everybody thinking
• 1:10:17
  that like that now where are people going to go Unity seems pretty prolific
• 1:10:23
  yeah you could go unreal unreal is the other option that's made by um epic or
• 1:10:29
  there are open source options like GTO like go Goot is like an open source game
• 1:10:35
  engine that might be an option it's not as full featured and then there's stuff
• 1:10:38
  like an Aussie guy called the chero used to work at oh I don't know if he still
• 1:10:42
  works there he used to work at EA he's making a game engine called Hazel online
• 1:10:47
  now so there are options but Unity was just super like mm it easy people
• 1:10:53
  understood it yeah it was like a really option for so long people were making
• 1:10:57
  stuff for it and you could just go in and go yep I'll grab that oh yeah any i'
• 1:11:01
  play says maybe the unity yeah yeah simple to use really good documentation
• 1:11:07
  really good Community which has now turned on it look I've got no issue with them
• 1:11:13
  going back and looking at their pricing structure and how if they feel they need
• 1:11:16
  to do that that's fine but something so aggressive like this and just so clearly
• 1:11:20
  not thought through or like they just don't understand their business seems
• 1:11:26
  like like it's yeah it's a shame very disappointing so uh yeah
• 1:11:33
  listeners if you're thinking of making an indie game don't don't use Unity yeah and if
• 1:11:40
  you're me and you've spent a bunch of money on courses just be glad that you
• 1:11:43
  didn't actually do anything with that it's lucky it's lucky that we've
• 1:11:49
  been so lazy yeah exactly it's time to uh pick a new platform to
• 1:11:55
  not do anything with well we can discuss that in the Afterparty what's the
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• 1:12:30
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• 1:12:37
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