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Monday Mini: What's Going on with Abortion in South Carolina? · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha. I'm lokind of stuff
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  Speaker 1: I ever told your production of iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: Ah, And for this Monday many we are dating this
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  Speaker 2: one because when it comes to reproductive rights in the
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  Speaker 2: US right now, it is ever changing. So today it
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  Speaker 2: is October ninth, twenty twenty five, and it's being released
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  Speaker 2: on the following Monday. So changes may have happened between
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  Speaker 2: this recording to it being released to wouldn't you actually
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  Speaker 2: listen to it? There? Don't doing anything's happening so content warning, abortion,
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  Speaker 2: reproductive rights, and mention of rape. All right, so we're
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  Speaker 2: talking about what is happening in South Carolina in regards
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  Speaker 2: to reproductive rights and why we are even more concerned
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  Speaker 2: than usual. I mean, we are in a constant state
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  Speaker 2: of concern, but you know still so as of today,
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  Speaker 2: South Carolina has presented Senate Bill three twenty three, which
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  Speaker 2: would bring one of the harshest, most restrictive abortion bands
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  Speaker 2: in the country. Surprise gets worse, I know. And in fact,
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  Speaker 2: abortion could be qualified as a homicide for people who
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  Speaker 2: are pregnant or who were accused and convicted of abortion.
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  Speaker 2: Also to note, they are using the title unborn child
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  Speaker 2: Protection acts. Yes, the terminology is a ploy to trick
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  Speaker 2: the pro birthers and anybody else on the fence into
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  Speaker 2: believing they are doing something moral and righteous. This is
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  Speaker 2: a tactic we know, We've known for a long time.
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  Speaker 2: So about the bill, The bill was first introduced in
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  Speaker 2: February of twenty twenty five by Representative Cash I believe
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  Speaker 2: this name, and was just brought forward on October first
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  Speaker 2: of this year for discussion. During the hearing and discussion,
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  Speaker 2: they listened to eight hours of testimony with around eighty
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  Speaker 2: people arguing about the bill, but no vote was cast
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  Speaker 2: at the time, and the bill is currently active and
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  Speaker 2: still under consideration. The committee in the diceession saying the
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  Speaker 2: bill needs to be worked on a bit more before
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  Speaker 2: the vote is made. So you should note many of
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  Speaker 2: the pro reproductive rights people have said that people that
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  Speaker 2: wanted to testify were not allowed to They were not
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  Speaker 2: allowed to speak, and they cut it off before it
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  Speaker 2: should have ended. Essentially, eight hours was not enough. I
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  Speaker 2: agree with this life changing type of bill, but hey,
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  Speaker 2: you know, so, what is the current abortion policy in
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  Speaker 2: South Carolina. Currently it's legal, but very restricted, much like Georgia. Again,
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  Speaker 2: South Carolina actually has one of the most restrictive abortion
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  Speaker 2: bans and laws in place, much like Georgia, by the Way,
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  Speaker 2: and many other places. From neurologyadvisor dot com, they write,
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  Speaker 2: South Carolina's abortion legislation as it stands today, considers determination
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  Speaker 2: of a pregnancy illegal sure a fetal heartbeat is detected,
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  Speaker 2: oftentimes occurring before the pregnancy becomes known at around six
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  Speaker 2: weeks of gestation. State Governor Henry McMasters signed the Fetal
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  Speaker 2: Heartbeat and Protection from Abortion Act into law on May
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  Speaker 2: twenty third, twenty twenty three. South Carolina is among the
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  Speaker 2: eighteen states that uphold some of the most restrictive abortion laws,
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  Speaker 2: either as bands within the first eighteen weeks of pregnancy
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  Speaker 2: or complete bands. The state allows abortions post heartbeat detection
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  Speaker 2: in certain cases, including rape or incests. However, the gestational
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  Speaker 2: age must be under thirteen weeks and the performing physician
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  Speaker 2: is required to report the crime to law enforcement within
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  Speaker 2: twenty four hours of the procedure. We talked about it before.
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  Speaker 2: This is really bad. We know we can't triss law enforcements,
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  Speaker 2: and women are not believed when it comes to rape cases.
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  Speaker 2: Now they're young girls and they really don't care, so
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  Speaker 2: with all of that, what does the new bill do?
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  Speaker 2: And there's many a listing, so I took from several
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  Speaker 2: different sites and if y'all need them, I got them
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  Speaker 2: on our outline and we can send it to you all.
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  Speaker 2: But number one, it wouldn't allow for exceptions outside of
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  Speaker 2: severe medical emergency during time of pregnancy. And though most
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  Speaker 2: people who have been following the laws and policy since
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  Speaker 2: the overturning of Roe v. Wade know this, I want
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  Speaker 2: to mention we have seen medical professionals not following through
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  Speaker 2: even for that, allowing for the death of women for
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  Speaker 2: the sake of a fetus, even making them incubators after death.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, if you're wondering about what happened in
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  Speaker 2: the sat of Georgia with that one case the babies
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  Speaker 2: and nik you barely surviving, I'm gonna put that there.
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  Speaker 2: Number Two, it allows for charging people who have an
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  Speaker 2: abortion with a felony for quote, the homicide of a
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  Speaker 2: person born alive, which we have already seen happen for
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  Speaker 2: those in cases of miscarriages, they've accused the women of
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  Speaker 2: a causing purposeful abortion, when a lot of the times
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  Speaker 2: it's a miscarriage. Three, they are criminalizing anyone who transports
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  Speaker 2: miners out of state for abortion care. Also is outlawing
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  Speaker 2: the giving of information via phone or website. So if
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  Speaker 2: someone has information any of those, that can be against
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  Speaker 2: the law and you can be charged for sharing SEID information.
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  Speaker 2: This also includes doctors and healthcare professionals. Fyi, it restricts
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  Speaker 2: access to birth control and IVF, which they're like, no,
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  Speaker 2: absolutely not, it won't matter.
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  Speaker 1: They lied.
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  Speaker 2: Autlaws medication used for abortion and in some cases classifies
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  Speaker 2: these drugsite Metha pristone and mister pristol as trolled substance
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  Speaker 2: and can be controlled, and that is on purpose, that
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  Speaker 2: is on purpose, that is on purpose, even though they
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  Speaker 2: shouldn't be. And of course propaganda videos titled meet Baby
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  Speaker 2: Olivia that this one's already created and produced would be
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  Speaker 2: required to be shown in public schools. Also, it allows
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  Speaker 2: for family members to sue everyone or anyone who they
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  Speaker 2: consider to have aided or revetted the abortion. So you're
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  Speaker 2: in domestic violence relationships and you get pregnant and you
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  Speaker 2: don't want to because he raped you, but A you
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  Speaker 2: can't have an abortion, but you do, so he sues
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  Speaker 2: you and everyone else that he wants to. So I
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  Speaker 2: think it's pretty obvious for anyone who believes in pro
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  Speaker 2: choice why this law is scary as hell or this policy.
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  Speaker 2: Even pro life and birthers are against this as well,
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  Speaker 2: like many of them are so. From the South Carolina Gazette,
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  Speaker 2: their own news source, they say this quote. Pro lifers
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  Speaker 2: understand better than anyone else the desire to punish the
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  Speaker 2: purveyors of abortion who act callleously and without regard to
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  Speaker 2: their dignity of human life. Lisa Van Riper, president of
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  Speaker 2: South Carolina Citizens for Life, set in a statement, but
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  Speaker 2: turning women who have abortions into criminals, as a bill does,
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  Speaker 2: is not the way. That group, which has worked to
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  Speaker 2: get anti abortion laws passed at the state House since
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  Speaker 2: nineteen ninety, also cited the bill's provision that forces volunteers
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  Speaker 2: and workers at faith based pregnancy crisis centers to testify
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  Speaker 2: against the women they help who go through with an abortion.
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  Speaker 2: That creates a chilling effect on the centers life saving work,
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  Speaker 2: including on pastors, the group set in a release. The
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  Speaker 2: Palmetto Family Alliance agreed in a similar message for these reasons,
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  Speaker 2: we are unable to support this bill as proposed. Steve Pettitt,
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  Speaker 2: the group's president said in a statement. Yeah, so even
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  Speaker 2: the pro life pro birth group are really not okay
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  Speaker 2: with this. They are very scared about this as well,
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  Speaker 2: because who, and rightly so, everyone can be wrapped up
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  Speaker 2: into this kind of conversation. Who's suing who, who's going
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  Speaker 2: after whom, who's all of these things? And yes, this
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  Speaker 2: goes beyond the South Carolina borders. This is a test
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  Speaker 2: if they are allowed to pass any part of this bill.
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  Speaker 2: We know that the extreme states like Georgia or any
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  Speaker 2: of the other eighteen that we previously mentioned will follow
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  Speaker 2: this example as quickly as possible, allowing for the persecution
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  Speaker 2: of people who can get pregnant, propaganda to push the
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  Speaker 2: pro birth narrative, persecution of people who would support people
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  Speaker 2: who are pregnant and need care, and the usage of
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  Speaker 2: pregnant people's bodies against their will is beyond scary. Again,
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  Speaker 2: I know I'm preaching to the choir, but this just
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  Speaker 2: needs to be said. So here are some things South
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  Speaker 2: Carolina Women's Rights and Empowerment Network ask people to do,
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  Speaker 2: especially if you're in South Carolina and we're with you,
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  Speaker 2: contact your legislators. We know it doesn't always seem effective,
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  Speaker 2: but the more voices they hear, the less they can ignore.
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  Speaker 2: Share your story if you can. Again, we know that
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  Speaker 2: there are things that you are not ready to do.
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  Speaker 2: Some people may have other experiences or feel like they
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  Speaker 2: are going to be persecuted or are judged. We understand that,
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  Speaker 2: but if you're willing to, these stories are so important
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  Speaker 2: for those who. Again, many of the stories that I
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  Speaker 2: hear are those that have a plan pregnancy that goes
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  Speaker 2: wrong and then they are caught up in this and
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  Speaker 2: their life may be at risk. I've heard actual men
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  Speaker 2: talking about how they are scared to lose their wives
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  Speaker 2: because of these laws they have to choose. This level
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  Speaker 2: of conversation makes it seem as if they are murderers,
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  Speaker 2: and it does. It accuses them of murderers. Again, fetus
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  Speaker 2: is different from babies that need to be clarified, and
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  Speaker 2: this language is so dangerous in so many damned ways.
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  Speaker 2: Because we also have the right if IVF is something
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  Speaker 2: that they choose, that is a choice. That also pro
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  Speaker 2: choicers are absolutely in favor of you. Do you responsibly
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  Speaker 2: also make sure to keep an eye on what they're doing.
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  Speaker 2: And we're talking about the government, the Congress legislations. We
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  Speaker 2: know legislators love to work in secret. Don't let them.
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  Speaker 2: Don't let them, I will say, as a person in
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  Speaker 2: Georgia with friends and family in South Carolina, I think
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  Speaker 2: I did donate to something, because I've been getting lots
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  Speaker 2: of emails and alerts about what's happening in South Carolina.
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  Speaker 2: I know nationally a lot of reproductive justice groups have
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  Speaker 2: been watching what's happening. Because this, again, we'll set a
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  Speaker 2: precedent about things to come. As of today, they have
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  Speaker 2: not set a date to reconvene about this bill, but
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  Speaker 2: many of the organizations, like the one I just talked about,
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  Speaker 2: the South Carolina Women's Rights and Empowerment Network, are watching
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  Speaker 2: closely and making sure to know and being updated about
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  Speaker 2: these types of bills and conversations. So you would be
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  Speaker 2: really good go ahead and follow them. Lock in get
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  Speaker 2: that newsletter. We will also try to keep up as
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  Speaker 2: much as possible. I know, because of podcasting and not
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  Speaker 2: necessarily live shows, it's gonna be like, oh, this was
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  Speaker 2: three years ago. Oh my god. I hope we have
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  Speaker 2: better news for years from now. But for those of
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  Speaker 2: you who are currently listening as we are waiting to
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  Speaker 2: see what happens, please please please, keep your eyes on them.
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  Speaker 2: We need to know what's going down. There's so many
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  Speaker 2: events happening, but this is very important for the entirety
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  Speaker 2: of the country and for anybody with us like this
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  Speaker 2: is so important, it should be important to everyone because
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  Speaker 2: again you know and love a person with the uteris.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I hope so well. Also, it's still in fact,
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  Speaker 1: you could just be going about your day and someone
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  Speaker 1: is like, hey, I'm suing you for this and you
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  Speaker 1: might not.
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  Speaker 2: And it made me as simple as you just put
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  Speaker 2: up a post that says birth control offered here. Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it does. It impacts everybody for sure. Huh. Well, listeners,
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  Speaker 1: if you have any resources, if you're in South Carolina
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