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- 0:00Speaker 1: This is the Almost Famous podcast with iHeartRadio.
- 0:04Speaker 2: Hey everybody, welcome back to almost Famous the Ogs. We
- 0:08Speaker 2: are doing what I was hoping we would get to
- 0:11Speaker 2: do a Bachelor in Paradise recap for episode two, or
- 0:16Speaker 2: as we say in Costa Rica dose, that's.
- 0:20Speaker 3: All I got, no pantaloni. We are.
- 0:24Speaker 4: We are jumping in for Ben and Ashley because you
- 0:27Speaker 4: know they've got their hands full with little ones.
- 0:29Speaker 3: You sure do.
- 0:30Speaker 4: Littler than ours. So yes, so we watched the episode
- 0:36Speaker 4: and are really excited to chat about it. What were
- 0:39Speaker 4: your overall thoughts?
- 0:41Speaker 2: You know, I gotta say so, I was excited because
- 0:44Speaker 2: I really got to kind of spend some time with
- 0:46Speaker 2: this episode and watch the whole thing. Whereas when we
- 0:49Speaker 2: were talking about it last time, I had to kind
- 0:51Speaker 2: of rush through it. I wasn't really able to see
- 0:52Speaker 2: the whole thing, And so this was exciting for me because,
- 0:57Speaker 2: you know, I got to see sort of what I
- 0:59Speaker 2: was thinking was happening in the last episode and whether
- 1:01Speaker 2: or not it actually came to to fruition in this one,
- 1:04Speaker 2: which it did in a couple of circumstances.
- 1:07Speaker 3: Pus, there will be spoiler spoiler alert.
- 1:09Speaker 2: There's gonna be some stuff talked about here, So if
- 1:10Speaker 2: you haven't watched that, we'll be pissed off at us.
- 1:13Speaker 3: We're talking about it. We're digging in.
- 1:15Speaker 2: But but yeah, I actually I really liked that. You know,
- 1:19Speaker 2: it's kind of interesting to see if I was as
- 1:24Speaker 2: as opposed to the changes as I felt after the
- 1:27Speaker 2: first episode. And I got to be honest, I am
- 1:29Speaker 2: very fickle because all of a sudden, I was like, oh, yeah,
- 1:31Speaker 2: I guess this isn't so bad. You know, I was
- 1:33Speaker 2: rolling with it this time. All my uh my purest
- 1:36Speaker 2: mentality went right out the window. I'm like, I don't
- 1:38Speaker 2: even know what I was talking about last time. This
- 1:39Speaker 2: isn't something so so yeah, So there was that as well.
- 1:44Speaker 2: Interesting to see some of the relationships kind of unfold
- 1:47Speaker 2: day two because we opened with breakfast, right, so that
- 1:50Speaker 2: was kind of interesting.
- 1:52Speaker 3: How about you? What were your thoughts?
- 1:54Speaker 4: You know, it's funny that you talk about the purest thing,
- 1:56Speaker 4: and I know we mentioned that on the last podcast
- 1:59Speaker 4: when we were talking about it. I so let me
- 2:01Speaker 4: just say this. I don't watch Love Island, and I
- 2:04Speaker 4: know that it just ended. Everyone is like all about
- 2:09Speaker 4: this show right now, at least my daughter and all
- 2:11Speaker 4: of her friends are and everyone on Instagram. Everyone is
- 2:17Speaker 4: about it, and that's great. Like, I just I don't
- 2:20Speaker 4: have I don't have the time because hello, it airs
- 2:23Speaker 4: like every night or something, five nights a week. It's
- 2:27Speaker 4: just a lot. It's just a lot. So I don't
- 2:31Speaker 4: watch that. And I know that. Ben and Ashley talked
- 2:35Speaker 4: a little bit on one of the last podcasts about,
- 2:40Speaker 4: you know, the comparisons to Love Island, the like dream
- 2:43Speaker 4: scenes where they're like, you know whatever, they're kind of acting,
- 2:48Speaker 4: and I think that's kind of part of Love Island
- 2:50Speaker 4: from what I understand, and they didn't have any in
- 2:55Speaker 4: this episode, which I thought was interesting. But you know,
- 2:58Speaker 4: just saying that I I don't watch Love Island, I
- 3:01Speaker 4: actually have thought taking the Love Island aspect out of it,
- 3:05Speaker 4: or any other reality shows for that matter, comparing it
- 3:08Speaker 4: to what it's been in the past, just to itself, right, Yeah, yeah,
- 3:12Speaker 4: I like.
- 3:13Speaker 1: I like.
- 3:14Speaker 4: I think it's an upgrade. I think that it's like
- 3:16Speaker 4: high definition, it's beautiful videography. I think it's like a
- 3:21Speaker 4: beautiful setting. There's no other Like we talked about the
- 3:25Speaker 4: potential of having other hotel guests like be in the scene,
- 3:29Speaker 4: you know, with them. There's nobody else there, you know,
- 3:32Speaker 4: they have taken over this resort or hotel or whatever,
- 3:35Speaker 4: and I think it's beautiful, like like visually, I think
- 3:39Speaker 4: that it's they are doing a beautiful job of the videography, cinematography,
- 3:44Speaker 4: whatever you call it. And you know, it's not as cheesy,
- 3:50Speaker 4: which was kind of fun for Bachelor in Paradise, it
- 3:53Speaker 4: was like cheesy and fun and like the almost the
- 3:55Speaker 4: intros for We're kind of like Three's Company esque, you know,
- 4:00Speaker 4: that was always fun. But I really just feel like
- 4:03Speaker 4: it's just kind of elevated in my mind because I'm
- 4:06Speaker 4: not comparing it to any other show. I'm just comparing
- 4:09Speaker 4: it to like what it used to be. They did
- 4:12Speaker 4: have that little sequence in the very beginning. It was
- 4:15Speaker 4: kind of the intro when they you know, start I
- 4:18Speaker 4: think it was Alex and Bailey or something. We're like
- 4:20Speaker 4: hugging and like saying hi to the camera, and then
- 4:23Speaker 4: everyone would walk up to the beach and like you know,
- 4:26Speaker 4: flax or whatever, which I thought that was really cute.
- 4:32Speaker 4: So I'm liking I like the vibe of it, I
- 4:35Speaker 4: like the feel of it, and and you know me,
- 4:37Speaker 4: I'm a purist, so yeah, I actually like it. I
- 4:41Speaker 4: think it's I think it's really all about the people
- 4:46Speaker 4: for me and the relationships and the connections and you know,
- 4:49Speaker 4: whatever drama happens and you know that kind of stuff.
- 4:52Speaker 4: But as far as like the vibe of the show
- 4:55Speaker 4: and you know, the general vibe of it, I really
- 5:01Speaker 4: like it.
- 5:02Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I'm with you.
- 5:03Speaker 2: I actually, uh, I was almost I was almost disappointed
- 5:06Speaker 2: in myself how quickly my opinion changed.
- 5:08Speaker 3: But I got over it. I got over that real
- 5:11Speaker 3: fast too. You know.
- 5:13Speaker 2: It's like I said, I'm pretty pickle right now. But yeah,
- 5:15Speaker 2: I thought it was really great, you know, it was.
- 5:17Speaker 2: It was kind of interesting to pick up to pick up.
- 5:20Speaker 2: You know, it's day four essentially in Paradise, right. Zoe
- 5:23Speaker 2: would kick it off right overly with Zoe talking about
- 5:25Speaker 2: how Brian has given her the cold shoulder since she
- 5:28Speaker 2: gave him a rose. Now we both know the power
- 5:30Speaker 2: of editing, right, But it is pretty interesting to watch
- 5:34Speaker 2: how it was almost like he got his rose and
- 5:36Speaker 2: he was like, Hey, what's up. Yeah, I'm gonna have
- 5:38Speaker 2: my my My Moon's over my hammy over here, you know,
- 5:40Speaker 2: she's just right.
- 5:41Speaker 3: Across the bar.
- 5:42Speaker 2: I mean, it was pretty I mean, was he just
- 5:45Speaker 2: doing that to get the rose? Was he just like,
- 5:47Speaker 2: you know, who knows?
- 5:48Speaker 3: Right?
- 5:48Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like I know, I know us you know.
- 5:52Speaker 2: Oh god, I can't even talk about it yet, but
- 5:53Speaker 2: well I will, I will. I'll give away something at
- 5:55Speaker 2: the end. One of the things I thought that was
- 5:57Speaker 2: interesting with Spencer was like, you know, this is ridiculou
- 6:00Speaker 2: what does this do here for? So I found that
- 6:03Speaker 2: to be pretty interesting. But what did you think? I mean,
- 6:05Speaker 2: did you think it was much ado about nothing that
- 6:07Speaker 2: she was so pissed right out of the gates, or
- 6:08Speaker 2: do you think it made sense?
- 6:10Speaker 4: Totally made sense? Are you kidding me? Like he was?
- 6:13Speaker 4: He was acting like they were a think like are
- 6:15Speaker 4: you good? Are you good? You know, like and they
- 6:20Speaker 4: had a thing there wasn't There wasn't not a thing.
- 6:23Speaker 4: There was a thing. I don't know how much of
- 6:25Speaker 4: a thing it was, but there was a thing and
- 6:28Speaker 4: there was a connection there they you know, I loved
- 6:32Speaker 4: I loved this. She was calling him out, but the
- 6:36Speaker 4: producers were also calling him out when basically he's saying like,
- 6:42Speaker 4: you know something to the effect of, oh well, I
- 6:45Speaker 4: didn't have any one on one time with Parisa and
- 6:48Speaker 4: we'll get into that obviously. Yeah, but they were totally
- 6:52Speaker 4: calling him out, like he would be like, oh, I
- 6:53Speaker 4: didn't have any private time, and then the whole show
- 6:56Speaker 4: private time.
- 6:57Speaker 3: I was a private time. Yeah. I actually thought that
- 7:00Speaker 3: was really great, you know, it was. It was really cool.
- 7:03Speaker 4: So I feel like, you know, Zoe is definitely a
- 7:09Speaker 4: little more like blunt, and you know, she can be
- 7:13Speaker 4: come across as like brash and like harsh at times.
- 7:17Speaker 4: I feel like, but I think that she had every
- 7:22Speaker 4: right to be like, dude, why didn't you even say
- 7:26Speaker 4: hello to me? Like, even if it was another girl
- 7:30Speaker 4: and he had no connection with them, like come in
- 7:33Speaker 4: in the morning and at least sit down and say hello.
- 7:37Speaker 4: And then his excuse was his excuse was, well, it
- 7:41Speaker 4: takes me a little time or whatever.
- 7:44Speaker 3: Morning coffee. Are you dingy? Yeah?
- 7:53Speaker 4: So I felt like even though he was like, well,
- 7:56Speaker 4: Zoe's being really clingy, I'm like, well, you kind of
- 7:59Speaker 4: led her on to believe that you guys were going
- 8:02Speaker 4: to wake up in the morning and you would say
- 8:04Speaker 4: good morning, thank you for the rose last.
- 8:07Speaker 3: Night last night or whatever.
- 8:09Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, we don't even know, we don't even
- 8:11Speaker 2: want you know, who knows maybe there maybe there was
- 8:14Speaker 2: something that went on after the rose ceremony to kind
- 8:16Speaker 2: of indicate because in all honesty, I mean, I don't
- 8:19Speaker 2: think Zoe comes off as as let me say this
- 8:24Speaker 2: in a delicate way, but I.
- 8:25Speaker 3: Feel like she might be a little.
- 8:29Speaker 2: She might have come off as a little bit needy,
- 8:32Speaker 2: I suppose if you're thinking about it from the grand
- 8:35Speaker 2: scheme of things of hey, this is Bachelor in Paradise.
- 8:38Speaker 2: Everyone's here to you know, connect as many people as
- 8:40Speaker 2: possible whatever. So she clearly was getting the indication from
- 8:43Speaker 2: him somehow, someway that there was more to it, right,
- 8:46Speaker 2: And so her reaction wasn't out of left field because
- 8:50Speaker 2: no one else was acting like she was coming out
- 8:51Speaker 2: of left field. The only only one was trying to
- 8:53Speaker 2: sell us on that was was that dude Bryan.
- 8:55Speaker 3: So yeah, I thought.
- 8:56Speaker 2: That was pretty interesting too, kind of a weird, you know,
- 9:00Speaker 2: weird feel for sure, And she was definitely.
- 9:02Speaker 3: Getting some signals.
- 9:03Speaker 4: Yeah, And let we need to note that the flipped
- 9:08Speaker 4: the switch was flipped because or the script was flipped
- 9:13Speaker 4: because the guys have the roses now. And so I
- 9:17Speaker 4: wonder if he just wasn't like, oh, I need to
- 9:20Speaker 4: kiss her ass, so I'll get a rose and I
- 9:23Speaker 4: don't need to anymore, like when you woke up in
- 9:25Speaker 4: the morning. He's like, yeah, I don't need to kiss
- 9:27Speaker 4: anybody's ass anymore to get a rose. I'm the one
- 9:29Speaker 4: with the rose.
- 9:30Speaker 3: I know, no, in all honesty.
- 9:33Speaker 2: So I don't know if you remember you and I've
- 9:35Speaker 2: had this conversation before, but many many years ago when
- 9:38Speaker 2: they had Jake Pavelka on the first Bachelor Pad and
- 9:44Speaker 2: he was like the first lead into the mix, right,
- 9:47Speaker 2: And I think I told you they had called me
- 9:49Speaker 2: because I was splitting up with my axe at the time,
- 9:51Speaker 2: and They're like, would you come on this show? And
- 9:52Speaker 2: I'm like, I thought they met the host and I'm like,
- 9:53Speaker 2: oh my god.
- 9:54Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 9:54Speaker 2: And my whole intention of being like there's absolutely no
- 9:57Speaker 2: way I would go on the show was the gamesmanship
- 10:00Speaker 2: that goes into something like this, right, And so I
- 10:03Speaker 2: knew I couldn't do it. I knew I would feel
- 10:05Speaker 2: horrible about myself. And then I also knew when I
- 10:07Speaker 2: had to come home and watch myself, if I did
- 10:09Speaker 2: those things things that survive, I would hate myself for it,
- 10:12Speaker 2: you know. And so I was just like, I'm not
- 10:14Speaker 2: even putting myself in that situation. I can't do it.
- 10:16Speaker 3: I won't do it. And this is exactly it.
- 10:19Speaker 2: Right, what Brian, at least what we feel we've seen
- 10:22Speaker 2: so far, is what Brian is showing is exactly that gamesmanship.
- 10:26Speaker 2: It's like, you know, like on Survivor when they form
- 10:28Speaker 2: an alliance and then the next day they decide, you know,
- 10:32Speaker 2: Billy's out right, It's almost like they just forget believe
- 10:35Speaker 2: and exists. They treat them like he doesn't even exist.
- 10:36Speaker 2: It's like just unbelievable. How the flip can the switch
- 10:39Speaker 2: can flip?
- 10:40Speaker 3: Yeah? And it was almost like as if almost as
- 10:42Speaker 3: if on demand.
- 10:43Speaker 2: All of a sudden, here rolls in two new hotties
- 10:46Speaker 2: on jet skis, and you know, Brian's head explodes. Right.
- 10:53Speaker 4: Well, I will say, like, okay, so this show is
- 10:57Speaker 4: a little different than Baptis Bachelorette in that there's there's
- 11:03Speaker 4: really in my mind, they are all single, right, and
- 11:07Speaker 4: they are ready to mingle, and so there's a lot
- 11:11Speaker 4: of options for both, you know, both sides, and so
- 11:15Speaker 4: I don't fault them. I don't fault anyone for coming
- 11:19Speaker 4: in and saying I don't want to right out the
- 11:22Speaker 4: gate like put all my eggs in one basket, Like
- 11:24Speaker 4: I don't think I really truly don't think there's anything
- 11:27Speaker 4: wrong with that. Like, hey, if you just want to
- 11:30Speaker 4: play the field, then then that's fine. But say so,
- 11:35Speaker 4: like in the beginning, tell Zoey like, hey, listen, I
- 11:41Speaker 4: know we're really having a good time together and I'm
- 11:43Speaker 4: really enjoying that time. But I just want to let
- 11:46Speaker 4: you know that, you know, I am trying to keep
- 11:50Speaker 4: the door open to other people just to get the
- 11:53Speaker 4: most out of this experience. Like there's nothing wrong with that,
- 11:56Speaker 4: but just freaking say it.
- 11:58Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, don't don't. You don't through everything you can
- 12:01Speaker 3: to get a flower and then you know, kick her
- 12:02Speaker 3: to the gard. Agreed.
- 12:04Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it was so much going on in
- 12:06Speaker 2: this one. I'm gonna kind of touch on some notes here,
- 12:08Speaker 2: you know, one of the things, and I think that
- 12:11Speaker 2: this relationship actually could be one of those relationships that
- 12:15Speaker 2: we've seen come through this show. Right out of the gate, Spencer,
- 12:19Speaker 2: you know, is saying, you know, hey, I'm definitely open
- 12:22Speaker 2: to have a conversation, but I'm really happy where Jess
- 12:24Speaker 2: and I are at. You know, I thought that was
- 12:25Speaker 2: a nice one. Jonathan wants to stay open to everything
- 12:29Speaker 2: that's going on. And I've actually met Jonathan before. Super
- 12:32Speaker 2: nice guy, you know, really really think he's a very
- 12:37Speaker 2: nice guy.
- 12:37Speaker 4: And let me say, can I stop you right there
- 12:40Speaker 4: really quick, Jonathan. I feel like when we're comparing Brian
- 12:44Speaker 4: to Jonathan, Jonathan is saying he's open to these relationships
- 12:48Speaker 4: and he's talking to people about that. Like later on
- 12:52Speaker 4: in the episode, he goes on the date with Jill,
- 12:54Speaker 4: He's having this you know, relationship with Alex. He goes
- 12:57Speaker 4: in the kissing booth and he kisses the multi people.
- 13:01Speaker 4: So I feel like there's a way to go about it,
- 13:04Speaker 4: to communicate so that you are not coming off as
- 13:08Speaker 4: disrespectful or or making someone feel like they've been disrespected.
- 13:12Speaker 3: Right.
- 13:12Speaker 2: No, And one of the cool things I thought about
- 13:15Speaker 2: what Jonathan did, and again I think, because I know him,
- 13:17Speaker 2: I was hoping he would act this way which he did,
- 13:20Speaker 2: was you know, he goes over to Alex and says, hey,
- 13:22Speaker 2: you know, Joel's asked me on this date, and Alex's like, yeah,
- 13:25Speaker 2: you can go.
- 13:26Speaker 3: You know. And I mean it wasn't like she was
- 13:29Speaker 3: giving him.
- 13:29Speaker 2: He wasn't looking for permission, right, But I think him
- 13:33Speaker 2: him being respectful of the fact that they had something going,
- 13:36Speaker 2: and you know, he wanted her to know that he
- 13:38Speaker 2: was going to do this, and she was cool with it.
- 13:41Speaker 2: Kind of says a lot about him and her really,
- 13:44Speaker 2: you know, I thought that was pretty cool too. You know,
- 13:47Speaker 2: Jeremy said, Bailey's looking for reassurance, but he didn't want
- 13:50Speaker 2: to promise anything.
- 13:51Speaker 3: He wants to stay open.
- 13:52Speaker 2: Justin saying he plans to continue to explore things with
- 13:55Speaker 2: LEXI did not feel the need to look much further
- 13:58Speaker 2: right now. Justin says, but you never know what's gonna
- 14:02Speaker 2: happen in Paradise.
- 14:03Speaker 4: You just never know, right well, because other people come in.
- 14:06Speaker 3: Other people come in.
- 14:07Speaker 2: And part of the thing, too, I feel is that
- 14:10Speaker 2: having this season, you know, it's definitely a new season,
- 14:12Speaker 2: but having the show been on the air for so long,
- 14:15Speaker 2: it's kind of like when you and I did The
- 14:16Speaker 2: Bachelor and The Bachelorette, we didn't know what the hell
- 14:18Speaker 2: we were doing, and no one knew because it really
- 14:20Speaker 2: hadn't been done before and.
- 14:21Speaker 3: Hadn't been seen a million seasons in a row.
- 14:23Speaker 2: This one, everyone knows there's some wild cards coming, right,
- 14:26Speaker 2: and so yeah, I'm gonna keep my connections open. And
- 14:29Speaker 2: it doesn't mean they're keeping it open to just who's
- 14:31Speaker 2: there on that given day because they know tomorrow.
- 14:33Speaker 3: Is a whole new you know, whole new thing.
- 14:37Speaker 2: So yeah, and so so to that end, Parisa and
- 14:41Speaker 2: Ali Joe roll in on jet skis right, like like
- 14:45Speaker 2: coming in like bats out of hell, and they look
- 14:48Speaker 2: amazing and they amazing.
- 14:50Speaker 4: They're both beautiful girls.
- 14:51Speaker 3: Yeah. Is there any any indication?
- 14:54Speaker 2: I mean, it's almost like you're watching Baywatch right he
- 14:56Speaker 2: has me Bleef jumping off of the jet ski.
- 14:58Speaker 3: I mean, Ali looks.
- 14:59Speaker 4: Just like Wins. They are totally twins. So we were
- 15:02Speaker 4: talking about this before we started the podcast. I looked
- 15:05Speaker 4: her up, Yasmine Bleeth. They are so twins. Is such
- 15:09Speaker 4: a good call.
- 15:10Speaker 2: Yes, And by the way, yas me Bleef was truly
- 15:14Speaker 2: one of my favorites on bay Watch, just as I.
- 15:16Speaker 4: Mean, she was a fan favorite, like you a fan favorite.
- 15:19Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 15:21Speaker 2: So they come in and who are they met with? Spencer,
- 15:24Speaker 2: Jonathan and our boy Brian right there on the beach.
- 15:27Speaker 2: Brian just sees him coming. I think he's the one.
- 15:30Speaker 3: He's like, you know, coming, But I don't think the
- 15:37Speaker 3: jet ski rolls in.
- 15:40Speaker 2: She's like totally looking for love and critters, which I
- 15:44Speaker 2: don't know PRIs Grant season very well.
- 15:47Speaker 3: But was she talking about critters then? Like, why is
- 15:49Speaker 3: this critters something? She?
- 15:51Speaker 4: Yeah, she was.
- 15:53Speaker 3: I missed that.
- 15:53Speaker 4: It's kind of her her thing. She's like Ryan. So
- 15:57Speaker 4: if there's a spider in our house, Ryan picks it
- 15:59Speaker 4: up and takes it outside.
- 16:00Speaker 3: I think that's even if it's a brown recluse, if
- 16:03Speaker 3: it's like one of them kind of bite because I
- 16:05Speaker 3: got bit on the got bid on the weekend. So
- 16:19Speaker 3: they just pulled up on.
- 16:21Speaker 2: The jet skis and they ditch the jet skis. It's
- 16:23Speaker 2: like a great episode of of uh, you know, Baywatch. Yeah,
- 16:27Speaker 2: I mean they both they both look pretty incredible, honestly,
- 16:30Speaker 2: God getting off that jet ski so you're like, oh
- 16:32Speaker 2: my god. And you know, some of the girls reacted
- 16:35Speaker 2: well to them arriving, Zoe not so much. Zoe didn't
- 16:38Speaker 2: even want to greet him. Zoe didn't even leave her chair.
- 16:40Speaker 2: I don't think she looked in their direction. And Zoe
- 16:44Speaker 2: and Ali Joe have a history, yes.
- 16:46Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, And what I thought was really interesting
- 16:50Speaker 4: and this is flashbwarding a little bit, But.
- 16:56Speaker 1: Zoe was on. So Ali, Joe and.
- 16:59Speaker 4: Parse come in and they both get date cards, which
- 17:02Speaker 4: is what happens with everybody, and Parisa and Brian had
- 17:08Speaker 4: had a chat and then uh, Brian was on you
- 17:13Speaker 4: know one of those like outdoor beds or whatever with Zoe.
- 17:18Speaker 4: Brian is with Zoe and they're chatting and Parisa comes
- 17:22Speaker 4: over and interrupts them. And this was a big thing
- 17:27Speaker 4: on Grant Season. It caused a lot of drama. Zoe
- 17:30Speaker 4: interrupted multiple times. She was the interrupter of Grant Season.
- 17:35Speaker 4: And I know that Parisa I, or at least I
- 17:40Speaker 4: remember that Parisa was one of the ones voicing how
- 17:43Speaker 4: she had a problem and correct me if I'm wrong,
- 17:47Speaker 4: even even you guys Heather and Abray and if I
- 17:52Speaker 4: feel like Parisa was one of the ones, yeah, it
- 17:56Speaker 4: was Parisa and Ali Joe that that had an issue
- 17:59Speaker 4: with her interrupting people. And so I was like, really,
- 18:03Speaker 4: you come on Bachelor in Paradise, And I don't know
- 18:06Speaker 4: if the producers put her up to this. They very
- 18:09Speaker 4: well could have, and they could have said, you know,
- 18:13Speaker 4: you should go interrupt Zoe.
- 18:14Speaker 1: Just like she did on you know, Grant Season or whatever.
- 18:17Speaker 1: But I was like I don't know. I don't like that.
- 18:20Speaker 1: I don't like that.
- 18:21Speaker 4: It's like you were calling someone out on the Bachelor
- 18:24Speaker 4: and now you're going to go do it to her
- 18:26Speaker 4: like that just seems a little hypocritical to see.
- 18:28Speaker 3: I thought I thought it was the other way around.
- 18:30Speaker 2: I thought Zoe got mad at Ali Joe for interrupting
- 18:33Speaker 2: Zoe and Grant.
- 18:34Speaker 3: That's what I thought. That's what I thought it was.
- 18:37Speaker 3: But you're probably you.
- 18:38Speaker 1: Thought Zoe you got mad at Ali Joe.
- 18:41Speaker 2: Oh, I thought Ali Joe interrupted Zoe and Grant in
- 18:44Speaker 2: that pissed off Zoe.
- 18:46Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure Zoe was the one who did the
- 18:48Speaker 4: interrupting on Grant season, okay, And and the girls had
- 18:54Speaker 4: a problem with it, and they voiced that problem. Yeah,
- 18:57Speaker 4: you know, there was there was more going on, like
- 18:59Speaker 4: during the basketball date, she pulled him away and she
- 19:01Speaker 4: had like a one on one essentially with him during
- 19:04Speaker 4: the basketball date, and so it took time away from everybody.
- 19:07Speaker 4: So they had a bigger problem with that. But she
- 19:09Speaker 4: was interrupting people, and so I don't know, I just that.
- 19:13Speaker 1: Didn't rub me the right way. But whatever, I mean,
- 19:16Speaker 1: it is what it is.
- 19:17Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think I think it's interesting, right,
- 19:19Speaker 2: because it's it's like they have to use the date
- 19:21Speaker 2: card that day, so they got to meet everybody as
- 19:24Speaker 2: quickly as they can, right.
- 19:25Speaker 3: Or they lose it.
- 19:26Speaker 2: And then that that very next day is an elimination, right,
- 19:30Speaker 2: and and so it's like, I mean, I guess in
- 19:32Speaker 2: those regards, you got to you gotta think about it.
- 19:34Speaker 2: It is more of a competitive environment here, you know.
- 19:37Speaker 2: But this whole episode really was kind of about about Zoe,
- 19:41Speaker 2: Parisa and Ali Joe, right. I mean it was almost
- 19:43Speaker 2: like Grant Season part du literally on display. And one
- 19:49Speaker 2: of the things I thought was interesting was Zoe sort
- 19:53Speaker 2: of you know, sits them down. I mean they she
- 19:56Speaker 2: didn't sit down. They're all in the same area. But
- 19:59Speaker 2: Zoe basically said, this is this is my territory. Anybody
- 20:03Speaker 2: but Brian, right, don't mess with my man.
- 20:05Speaker 3: I'm just kidding.
- 20:06Speaker 2: First of all, don't mess with my man. Incredibly long
- 20:08Speaker 2: awkward pause.
- 20:09Speaker 3: I'm just kidding. Or maybe I'm not, she.
- 20:13Speaker 4: Said, and then she said, yeah, I don't, Yeah, maybe
- 20:15Speaker 4: I'm not. No, she wasn't kidding. No, she was not kidding.
- 20:19Speaker 3: But talk about putting the target on yourself.
- 20:20Speaker 2: It's almost like you know, because I feel like in
- 20:23Speaker 2: its moments like this, and I mean I've often said
- 20:25Speaker 2: this about the whole Bachelor franchise, by the way, so
- 20:27Speaker 2: please no one take any disrespect from this. But when
- 20:30Speaker 2: I was a Bachelor, I remember everyone going, what's it
- 20:33Speaker 2: like to have everyone in love with you?
- 20:35Speaker 3: I'm like, they're not.
- 20:36Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, I go, you could have a
- 20:38Speaker 2: monkey up there handing out flowers. These women aren't losing
- 20:40Speaker 2: to any other woman in that room, and so they
- 20:43Speaker 2: don't get a flower from the monkey. They're pissed off, right,
- 20:45Speaker 2: And it's like and I'm like, I was just a monkey,
- 20:47Speaker 2: That's all I was.
- 20:48Speaker 3: I was a vehicle for flower delivery, you know.
- 20:50Speaker 2: And I do feel like if you go into the
- 20:52Speaker 2: show with it, take yourself, you know, take the piss
- 20:55Speaker 2: out of yourself a little bit with a little grain
- 20:56Speaker 2: of salt.
- 20:56Speaker 3: You can laugh at it.
- 20:58Speaker 2: But in those moments, I was kind of like, you know,
- 21:00Speaker 2: almost like saying that, like, don't touch Brian, he's mine,
- 21:03Speaker 2: is almost like, oh, well, you know what, how.
- 21:06Speaker 3: Weird because I'm really into Brian and.
- 21:07Speaker 2: She might not be all Joe might pull to Brian
- 21:10Speaker 2: on Brian tomorrow at breakfast we don't know. But at
- 21:13Speaker 2: the end of the day, it's kind of like one
- 21:14Speaker 2: of those things where it's like you just put your
- 21:16Speaker 2: paris every other You just put a target on your
- 21:19Speaker 2: back with that.
- 21:20Speaker 3: You know.
- 21:21Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I know.
- 21:22Speaker 4: By bringing it up, you're basically like, just as it's
- 21:26Speaker 4: like when they say, don't think about a purple elephant.
- 21:29Speaker 4: Don't do you think about a purple elephant? Well, that's
- 21:31Speaker 4: all you do is think about purple.
- 21:33Speaker 3: Oh my god, No, thanks for ruining my day. It's
- 21:36Speaker 3: all I got in my head right now. I mean
- 21:38Speaker 3: it's true though, you know, it's like, don't take my man, kid.
- 21:41Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's what she does. She takes something that just.
- 21:46Speaker 3: Means I'm taking your man. Yeah.
- 21:48Speaker 2: But it's like she's saying, you know, and she's saying,
- 21:50Speaker 2: you're telling me, by the way, so hold on Brian
- 21:55Speaker 2: to greet them off of the jet ski. I'm going
- 21:57Speaker 2: back in my notes Spencer, Brian and Jonathan. So Parisa
- 22:01Speaker 2: is saying, now.
- 22:02Speaker 3: Well, Brian caught my eye when I got off that
- 22:04Speaker 3: jet ski, so, which I think is really interesting.
- 22:07Speaker 2: I'm stepping on you know, I don't want to step
- 22:09Speaker 2: on anybody's toast, but it is paradise and I kind
- 22:11Speaker 2: of already semi hate Zoe from you know, six weeks ago, right,
- 22:16Speaker 2: So it's like, come on, man, I mean, honestly, some
- 22:19Speaker 2: of this stuff is awesome, but it's also it's so transparent.
- 22:22Speaker 4: That I love it, you know, yeah, yeah, I mean
- 22:25Speaker 4: it really doesn't like they're all there to meet people,
- 22:28Speaker 4: and if you're interested in someone, then like say that
- 22:32Speaker 4: and be interested in someone and actually like go through
- 22:35Speaker 4: the motions of getting to know them and apologize to
- 22:38Speaker 4: the person who maybe he already.
- 22:40Speaker 1: Got to know. But like, I think that's what everyone's
- 22:43Speaker 1: there for.
- 22:43Speaker 4: If they don't like actually go try to connect with someone,
- 22:48Speaker 4: then why are they there, like, you know, so so
- 22:51Speaker 4: I don't, I don't. I don't think Parisa was in
- 22:54Speaker 4: the wrong at all. I think, you know, and Brian too,
- 22:58Speaker 4: for that matter. I just think that the non hello
- 23:03Speaker 4: in the morning and then kind of like shading her
- 23:06Speaker 4: and saying that she was clinging and you know whatever.
- 23:09Speaker 4: I just I was like him, well, whatever, you you
- 23:14Speaker 4: had something going. You were like smooching and hanging out
- 23:18Speaker 4: together like just one on one.
- 23:20Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that flashback of the romantic you know, previous
- 23:23Speaker 2: twenty four hours was pretty telling. I mean, they were,
- 23:26Speaker 2: they were kind of coupling up, you.
- 23:28Speaker 4: Know, so totally for sure they were for sure they
- 23:31Speaker 4: were Okay, okay.
- 23:32Speaker 1: So let's get to the chemistry test.
- 23:34Speaker 4: Because I actually really thought this was such a great idea.
- 23:39Speaker 4: I feel like it for Bachelor in Paradise. Maybe not
- 23:43Speaker 4: Bachelor or a bachelorette because there's just one guy and
- 23:46Speaker 4: you know, multiple girls or one girl in multiple guyes.
- 23:49Speaker 4: But for Bachelor and Paradise, I thought it was really
- 23:52Speaker 4: interesting because I don't know if I don't know if
- 23:56Speaker 4: we've ever talked about this, but my mom before I
- 23:58Speaker 4: went was like, you know, just make sure that they're
- 24:01Speaker 4: a good kisser.
- 24:02Speaker 3: That was her like.
- 24:07Speaker 4: It is because truly, if you are not compatible when
- 24:11Speaker 4: you kiss someone, then I don't know that.
- 24:14Speaker 1: The relationship is going to work.
- 24:16Speaker 4: That is really a key component of any relationship, like
- 24:19Speaker 4: romantic relationship, I believe absolutely. So I thought that was
- 24:24Speaker 4: really interesting and the fact that you know that you
- 24:28Speaker 4: had to have both people had to had to.
- 24:34Speaker 1: Or whatever I thought was really interesting and.
- 24:38Speaker 4: Very insightful into like who's into who and who is
- 24:44Speaker 4: a hot commodity and who's there just to kiss all
- 24:51Speaker 4: the people, which was Brian. He was like, I'm just
- 24:54Speaker 4: going to keep it everybody.
- 24:57Speaker 2: I just have to say one of my favorite moments
- 24:59Speaker 2: of that how they're going through it, you know, Wells
- 25:02Speaker 2: and Hannah calm. Wells take the guys, Hannah takes the
- 25:04Speaker 2: ladies and they go through the whole thing, and uh,
- 25:07Speaker 2: I loved how the producer would come in at the
- 25:10Speaker 2: end and it was like a dude with a beard
- 25:12Speaker 2: in a headset and he's like, I wonder who's everyone
- 25:15Speaker 2: of these guys. I wonder who's coming next. I hope
- 25:17Speaker 2: it's Deddy. Oh my god, if Debbie Pup's in here,
- 25:19Speaker 2: that's gonna be great. And all of a sudden it's
- 25:20Speaker 2: this big old producer and he's like, yeah, you're done, bro,
- 25:23Speaker 2: no one else swiped for you.
- 25:25Speaker 1: And then he's like, I can give you one of these.
- 25:28Speaker 1: I can give you one of these.
- 25:29Speaker 3: One of these.
- 25:32Speaker 1: Yes.
- 25:33Speaker 3: I thought that was so funny.
- 25:35Speaker 4: I kind of love how Wells and Hannah are like
- 25:38Speaker 4: they're putting them into the mix and it's not just Jesse.
- 25:42Speaker 4: I mean, so in that scene, you know, Wells is
- 25:45Speaker 4: with the guys, Hannah's with the girls.
- 25:47Speaker 1: They have iPads and then Jesse is.
- 25:49Speaker 4: On the iPad, yeah, and who knows if he was
- 25:52Speaker 4: traveling or something or had to go home. But I
- 25:55Speaker 4: love that they are incorporating Hannah into it a lot.
- 25:59Speaker 4: And yeah, and Wells even, I mean, he's been a
- 26:01Speaker 4: part of dates on Bachelor in Paradise before.
- 26:04Speaker 2: But this is definitely a bigger role for him. I mean,
- 26:06Speaker 2: you know, yeah for sure years past.
- 26:08Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So I'd like to see Hannah have a
- 26:10Speaker 3: little more to say.
- 26:12Speaker 2: I'd like to see her a little more involved because
- 26:13Speaker 2: I mean her personality as such that you.
- 26:16Speaker 3: Know, but you know how it is.
- 26:17Speaker 2: Maybe maybe she was kind of feeling the ropes out
- 26:19Speaker 2: at first, and you know, and Wells was taking the
- 26:22Speaker 2: reins or whatever. You know, So we'll see what happens
- 26:24Speaker 2: when she's on her own with everybody more.
- 26:26Speaker 4: I also feel like, yeah, we might not be seeing
- 26:28Speaker 4: her talking a whole lot, but she is. She is
- 26:31Speaker 4: part of it. But also I know from personal experience
- 26:36Speaker 4: that when you're there, it doesn't matter how much you talk.
- 26:39Speaker 4: If they want to hear what you have to say
- 26:41Speaker 4: in the edit, then they're going to put you in
- 26:44Speaker 4: the edit, like if you if it doesn't play a
- 26:47Speaker 4: part in whatever's happening then fine, like I I mean
- 26:50Speaker 4: I went to the we went to the Golden Bachelor,
- 26:53Speaker 4: or when I did the pickleball date on Golden Bachelor
- 26:56Speaker 4: that Joey was there with me, and I actually asked
- 27:00Speaker 4: Joey to be the Bachelor on camera like they were
- 27:03Speaker 4: They were like, Okay, we really love for you to
- 27:05Speaker 4: be the one to ask Joey to be our next Bachelor.
- 27:08Speaker 1: And I felt so honored and I did it and
- 27:11Speaker 1: they didn't include it in the show. I was like,
- 27:14Speaker 1: so it just does it? Like who knows?
- 27:16Speaker 4: Like Hannah, I'm sure is recording things, but what we're
- 27:19Speaker 4: being shown is, you know, just what fits into the
- 27:22Speaker 4: episode because they do have so many people.
- 27:24Speaker 3: Oh and there's so much to cover, right, I mean,
- 27:26Speaker 3: it's just move and move and movement. I mean it's crazy.
- 27:29Speaker 2: So Brian chose to click. He asked to kissing everyone. However,
- 27:34Speaker 2: Jonathan and Dale had the most matches for kissing, which
- 27:38Speaker 2: I thought was interesting. Jonathan kissed alex, Ali, Joe, Prisa,
- 27:42Speaker 2: and Bailey right, and I thought those were all pretty interesting.
- 27:47Speaker 2: Justin and Spencer they only chose to kiss one woman, right,
- 27:51Speaker 2: I love that. I thought that was interesting too, Brian
- 27:55Speaker 2: got to kiss Zoe and Parisa right Spencer only Jess
- 28:01Speaker 2: I thought was really nice.
- 28:02Speaker 3: Jared, I love that. Another nice little match up there.
- 28:07Speaker 3: Justin kissed Lexi but she said it was uncomfortable in
- 28:10Speaker 3: her worst nightmare. And I think she may have said
- 28:12Speaker 3: I was just eating guacamole. She did, she did.
- 28:16Speaker 1: That was so funny.
- 28:18Speaker 3: Oh my god, gosh.
- 28:20Speaker 4: And and we've got like someone who is not worried
- 28:23Speaker 4: about their breath. And then Parisa who's literally kissing Jonathan
- 28:27Speaker 4: with gum in her mouth.
- 28:28Speaker 3: She got a doublem, you know, slam in there.
- 28:31Speaker 4: Uh.
- 28:32Speaker 2: Dale who's clearly uh you know, hot commodity. He kissed Alex,
- 28:36Speaker 2: Kat Ali, Joe and Zoe and he gave kat a little.
- 28:41Speaker 3: Extra love, which was which was nice, you know for them.
- 28:44Speaker 3: They seem to be connecting.
- 28:45Speaker 4: I think they're connecting really well. I like I like
- 28:49Speaker 4: their connection. I do find it very interesting that we
- 28:53Speaker 4: haven't been shown any conversations that they or anyone else
- 28:57Speaker 4: has had about him and and Claire.
- 29:00Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 29:01Speaker 2: I've been interested with that too. I was, I was
- 29:03Speaker 2: wondering when and how that would come up. But you know, again,
- 29:06Speaker 2: that might be something that's on the cutting room floor,
- 29:08Speaker 2: I suppose, But to me, it seems like it might
- 29:11Speaker 2: come up as things.
- 29:12Speaker 3: Begin to get more serious because he wasn't.
- 29:16Speaker 2: He didn't come out of that whole thing unscathed, you
- 29:18Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like he I felt like, you know,
- 29:22Speaker 2: everybody's in Dale because he's a great looking dude and
- 29:24Speaker 2: everything else.
- 29:25Speaker 3: But you know, if what.
- 29:26Speaker 2: They're saying is true, like oh, I only want to
- 29:28Speaker 2: be with someone who's got great intentions and everything, well,
- 29:31Speaker 2: then the relationship you have with Claire will come up, right,
- 29:36Speaker 2: It will have to.
- 29:37Speaker 1: Ah, I mean.
- 29:38Speaker 3: It has to.
- 29:39Speaker 4: I can't even imagine. And honestly, I would feel like
- 29:43Speaker 4: it's something that should be discussed right at the gate,
- 29:46Speaker 4: like him mine, Like this is obviously Bachelor in Paradise
- 29:51Speaker 4: and you met Claire and got engaged in and left
- 29:54Speaker 4: the show before it was over and then things happened,
- 29:57Speaker 4: and so I it is very interesting to me that
- 30:01Speaker 4: it hasn't been brought up.
- 30:03Speaker 1: But you're right, maybe they're just saving it for later.
- 30:05Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean he could be.
- 30:08Speaker 2: He could theoretically be one of the first people and
- 30:12Speaker 2: we don't know, we don't know how the season ends,
- 30:14Speaker 2: but one of the very first or maybe the only
- 30:16Speaker 2: person that's ever gotten engaged on the actual Bachelorette or
- 30:20Speaker 2: a Bachelor because they did get engaged right and then
- 30:23Speaker 2: get engaged Bachelor in Paradise.
- 30:25Speaker 3: That's never happened where the one person is done on
- 30:27Speaker 3: both shows?
- 30:28Speaker 1: Has it? Has it?
- 30:29Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't think so. Yeah, I don't
- 30:32Speaker 3: think so. Could happen?
- 30:33Speaker 1: That is interesting, very interesting. We need to do some
- 30:37Speaker 1: research either. Can you chime in this?
- 30:51Speaker 2: We now go on a double date, right we got
- 30:56Speaker 2: Parisa asks Brian on the date and Ali Joe asks
- 31:01Speaker 2: Jonathan on the date, and.
- 31:03Speaker 3: The date gets pretty interesting.
- 31:04Speaker 2: They roll into this random bar in Costa Rica and
- 31:06Speaker 2: who what would you know?
- 31:08Speaker 3: It happens to be Well's night job Slee story what
- 31:15Speaker 3: I was doing here, you know, which I thought was
- 31:18Speaker 3: really funny. He's like, hey, cocktail, Oh what's up? Guys?
- 31:21Speaker 2: Hey, Oh my gosh, oh crazy you here. I'm not paradising,
- 31:27Speaker 2: I'm here, you know, mixing up cocktails in Costa Rica.
- 31:31Speaker 1: Yeah, no you're not. But whatever, So it's cute.
- 31:34Speaker 3: It was it was good.
- 31:35Speaker 1: Yeah, it was cute.
- 31:36Speaker 4: I thought that that actually was a really cute like
- 31:40Speaker 4: first date, you know, like something to like get to
- 31:43Speaker 4: know each other and get through the discomfort of like,
- 31:46Speaker 4: you know, physical touch.
- 31:48Speaker 1: You know, when they.
- 31:48Speaker 4: Were climbing over each other like a sloth. I thought
- 31:51Speaker 4: that was actually really funny and.
- 31:52Speaker 3: That was next level.
- 31:54Speaker 4: Yes, oh okay, wait hold please, Heather has gotten back
- 31:58Speaker 4: to us back Yeah, true story.
- 32:01Speaker 1: Becca got engaged? Yeah, yeah, Becca.
- 32:05Speaker 3: Is so Becca got engaged on The Bachelor.
- 32:10Speaker 4: Technically they got they got engaged after Bachelor in Paradise
- 32:14Speaker 4: her and Thomas.
- 32:15Speaker 3: Yes, so she did not technically get engaged on the show.
- 32:20Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, right, I got it.
- 32:22Speaker 4: Yeah, although Susie, Susie ended up being.
- 32:28Speaker 1: One of the ones. Wait she didn't, she told Clayton. No, right, right, right, Okay.
- 32:37Speaker 2: Our producers are telling us that Becca got engaged to Ari,
- 32:42Speaker 2: then got engaged on her own season of the Bachelorette,
- 32:45Speaker 2: and then kind of sort of got engaged on Paradise
- 32:49Speaker 2: because it happened after Paradise. Yeah, for sure, Becca loves
- 32:55Speaker 2: being engaged.
- 32:56Speaker 3: We know, I think she.
- 33:00Speaker 1: Loves being married more.
- 33:01Speaker 3: But she's a stockholder and Neil Lane. Yes, she's got
- 33:06Speaker 3: Neil Lane stock at home. Fun. No, I'm just teasing back.
- 33:10Speaker 3: I'm sure she loves being married much more. But yes, yeah,
- 33:13Speaker 3: I think for sure, yeah, I think that was that.
- 33:15Speaker 3: So that does kind of throw my whole thing out
- 33:17Speaker 3: the window.
- 33:18Speaker 2: But anyway, so the first game they play, which I
- 33:20Speaker 2: thought was great twerk off. It looked like they had
- 33:23Speaker 2: some Rando's in there too, right, it wasn't just the
- 33:24Speaker 2: best and that lady won, so she won the twork off.
- 33:28Speaker 2: We got to shake the balls out of the box
- 33:30Speaker 2: by shaking your heine and Rando wins, which was nice.
- 33:34Speaker 2: I'm sure Rando was watching that one at home that episode,
- 33:37Speaker 2: so we got some Costa Ricans watching the show, which
- 33:40Speaker 2: is nice. Second game, never seen this, Well I've seen this,
- 33:43Speaker 2: but I've never heard it. Called this the sloth climb.
- 33:45Speaker 2: So you climb around your partner without touching the ground.
- 33:48Speaker 2: And I gotta be honest, that's a pretty spectacular game.
- 33:53Speaker 3: I love it. I was watching, I'm like, I actually.
- 33:57Speaker 1: I want to do that with Ryan.
- 33:58Speaker 4: Hey, Bait, can I climb over you and just see
- 34:01Speaker 4: if I could not touch the ground like that takes
- 34:04Speaker 4: some talent, I don't know, yeah, and some strength and flexibility.
- 34:09Speaker 3: First of all, anyone who can do that?
- 34:12Speaker 2: The woman climbing on the guy, any woman that can
- 34:14Speaker 2: do that has amazing core strength.
- 34:16Speaker 3: Let's just say that, right, yeah.
- 34:18Speaker 2: Real, and typically the ladies are much lighter than the guys,
- 34:22Speaker 2: so the guys not that hard for a dude to
- 34:24Speaker 2: stand there and really enjoy that game.
- 34:27Speaker 3: Let's just say that third game, along comes Hector L.
- 34:31Speaker 2: Gigante or something of that nature, who's a locale.
- 34:37Speaker 3: Which means Hector the Giant. I believe was his name
- 34:39Speaker 3: was Hector.
- 34:40Speaker 2: I'm not i'mentirely sure about that, but he is an
- 34:42Speaker 2: arm wrestling champion and these dudes need to square off
- 34:45Speaker 2: against him. And I'm sure there was some type of
- 34:48Speaker 2: prize that you know, they were going to win in
- 34:51Speaker 2: the event that they won this arms contest. According to
- 34:54Speaker 2: what we saw, Jonathan took down Hector L.
- 34:58Speaker 3: Gigante.
- 34:58Speaker 4: Yeah, and I have to say one thing that I
- 35:01Speaker 4: think they're doing that's really cute to me.
- 35:04Speaker 1: And maybe this was part of Bachelor in Paradise when
- 35:07Speaker 1: they were in Mexico. It might not have been, but
- 35:09Speaker 1: it might have been.
- 35:10Speaker 4: So when they have like they show their itms and
- 35:14Speaker 4: then they show like their name and underneath their name,
- 35:18Speaker 4: they're going like, so when when that part came up,
- 35:23Speaker 4: Jonathan Allis said was hell.
- 35:28Speaker 3: So I didn't notice it.
- 35:30Speaker 2: Then I noticed it when Jill when it came up
- 35:33Speaker 2: for Jill and I said, desperate for Love. I hadn't
- 35:37Speaker 2: noticed that before either, and I saw that and I
- 35:39Speaker 2: literally just started laughing, like I was trying to cram
- 35:43Speaker 2: this episode in, so I was like driving and I'm
- 35:45Speaker 2: like laughing hysterically watching it.
- 35:47Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Oh my god.
- 35:49Speaker 4: So and then for Zoe, she when she was talking
- 35:53Speaker 4: to Parisa and Ali, Joe she Parsa was like, oh no,
- 35:57Speaker 4: maybe it was when she was talking to Brian and
- 35:59Speaker 4: Parsa came and interrupted her, and she was like, oh no,
- 36:02Speaker 4: I'm Gucci, meaning I'm good.
- 36:05Speaker 3: Like I'm a Gucci.
- 36:06Speaker 4: And the thing it says she's not Gucci or Zoe
- 36:11Speaker 4: is not.
- 36:14Speaker 1: So funny.
- 36:15Speaker 3: That's really funny.
- 36:17Speaker 2: I didn't notice that Zoe's not Gucci, but yeah, she
- 36:19Speaker 2: was not Gucci in that moment at all.
- 36:22Speaker 3: The opposite. Actually, yeah, oh my gosh.
- 36:25Speaker 2: All right, so while we're gone on this double date,
- 36:27Speaker 2: two more ladies show up. Well, one of the time
- 36:32Speaker 2: Jill arrives from Clayton's season and from Bache Bachelor Paradise
- 36:36Speaker 2: season eight, and Jill was the one where it goes
- 36:40Speaker 2: to underneath said desper for long and she's like, I
- 36:43Speaker 2: don't have a type. I'm an open door. I like
- 36:45Speaker 2: I like all men.
- 36:46Speaker 1: I like them all, anyone who's breathing, Yeah, I'll take him.
- 36:51Speaker 2: And then and during that time, again brilliant editing. You know,
- 36:57Speaker 2: I say it a million times when I talk about
- 37:01Speaker 2: all like The Bachelor, Bachelor and Paradise, Bachelotte, all of it.
- 37:04Speaker 3: These producers produce romance so well.
- 37:06Speaker 2: And it's here they are again, Lexi and Justin on
- 37:10Speaker 2: the beach having this heartfelt conversation about are you ready?
- 37:13Speaker 3: And he's like I think I am, and she's like,
- 37:15Speaker 3: I don't think so.
- 37:15Speaker 2: And it was like really obvious that she was basically saying, look, bro,
- 37:19Speaker 2: I'm going to separate myself from this because you don't
- 37:22Speaker 2: know where your head's at.
- 37:22Speaker 3: Blah blah blah.
- 37:23Speaker 2: And then da da da, as if on command enters
- 37:28Speaker 2: Susie his ex. Yes, and in full transparency, I need
- 37:33Speaker 2: to say I have spent time with these two together
- 37:36Speaker 2: when they were a couple and then again when they
- 37:39Speaker 2: had just recently kind of taken a break, but they
- 37:42Speaker 2: were still on a trip that I was on and lovely,
- 37:45Speaker 2: lovely people, both of them really yea lovely people and
- 37:50Speaker 2: one of those couples that, god, you just wish they
- 37:52Speaker 2: would work out because they're such awesome people, you know,
- 37:54Speaker 2: and and so I, you know, knowing them, I don't
- 37:59Speaker 2: feel like I know them that well, but knowing them
- 38:01Speaker 2: as I do, I'm like, oh, no, oh god.
- 38:04Speaker 3: What is this.
- 38:05Speaker 2: I'm watching it like just so invested, and I'm like, no, Susie, what,
- 38:10Speaker 2: Oh my god, what's going to happen? You know? And
- 38:13Speaker 2: you know, it was interesting because they both had moments
- 38:16Speaker 2: where they were very concerned about the other person, right
- 38:18Speaker 2: and here again I think just reiterating what great, what
- 38:22Speaker 2: nice people they both are, and how they handled this
- 38:26Speaker 2: situation with about as much kindness as you could. Obviously
- 38:30Speaker 2: not probably knowing I wouldn't guess that the other one
- 38:33Speaker 2: was going to be on the show. Or maybe one
- 38:34Speaker 2: might have known and still thought it was okay. I
- 38:36Speaker 2: don't know, but it was pretty obvious that Justin had
- 38:39Speaker 2: no clue Susie was showing up.
- 38:40Speaker 4: I Yeah, who knows if they if they had any idea,
- 38:44Speaker 4: I think even if they did, it's just harder to
- 38:48Speaker 4: like see that person in person because they had just
- 38:51Speaker 4: they broke up. They broke up four months prior to
- 38:54Speaker 4: when they filmed, and.
- 38:56Speaker 1: That's just hard.
- 38:57Speaker 4: That's that's especially with someone who I think justin put
- 39:02Speaker 4: it as I or maybe it was Susie said, I
- 39:06Speaker 4: have never had a relationship like that, Like it was.
- 39:10Speaker 4: It was definitely a love, a loving relationship and probably
- 39:17Speaker 4: something that they thought would go farther farther, a lot
- 39:19Speaker 4: farther into the future. So so I think it's sad,
- 39:23Speaker 4: but I think what you know, they sat down and
- 39:26Speaker 4: talked and they were talking about you know, and she
- 39:30Speaker 4: talked to Jill because they were on the same Bachelor
- 39:34Speaker 4: season and then they were I think or maybe it
- 39:36Speaker 4: was Bachelor in Paradise, but they know each other, there friends,
- 39:40Speaker 4: and she was kind of getting the scoop and she's like,
- 39:43Speaker 4: Susie was like, I just feel bad for not only
- 39:46Speaker 4: for us, because this is a fresh breakup in a way,
- 39:50Speaker 4: but but even maybe even more so for the people
- 39:53Speaker 4: who are trying to like get to know us, you know,
- 39:56Speaker 4: like for Lexi and for you know, whomever comes along.
- 39:59Speaker 1: So I think that's true.
- 40:01Speaker 4: Like I felt like Lexi was being so respectful, you know,
- 40:06Speaker 4: Justin was really trying to kind of nedture, not in
- 40:10Speaker 4: a disrespectful way, but be like I'm good, you know,
- 40:13Speaker 4: like you know, I'm interested in you, and and Lexi
- 40:20Speaker 4: was like, well, you know, I just want to be
- 40:22Speaker 4: respectful and I want you to make sure that you've healed.
- 40:25Speaker 4: So I think it's really it'll be really interesting to see,
- 40:29Speaker 4: especially when we get to the end of the show,
- 40:31Speaker 4: which we are getting to to.
- 40:33Speaker 1: See what happens with Susie and Justin.
- 40:36Speaker 3: Yeah, so Susie and Jill show up.
- 40:38Speaker 2: Now we're going into day five, right, So now we're
- 40:41Speaker 2: coming into the final day of this episode, which we
- 40:44Speaker 2: all know ends in Rose ceremonies as always. Yeah, the
- 40:47Speaker 2: dudes have the keys of the Kingdom today, so the
- 40:50Speaker 2: guys are giving out the flowers. And I think it's
- 40:52Speaker 2: pretty interesting because Jill and Susie, you can tell you
- 40:55Speaker 2: have a nice friendship, and Jill's really like funny and engaging,
- 40:59Speaker 2: and Jill's like pulls Susie aside, wipes out in the process,
- 41:02Speaker 2: which is pretty hysterical. And then uh, and then like
- 41:05Speaker 2: you know, Susie pulls her up and she starts filling
- 41:07Speaker 2: her in on all the tea.
- 41:08Speaker 3: You know, here's who's with who, and this doesn't seem
- 41:10Speaker 3: so serious.
- 41:10Speaker 2: This one kind of does whatever and I and I agree,
- 41:14Speaker 2: Like Susie says at this point, she's like, I feel
- 41:16Speaker 2: like I came at a terrible time.
- 41:17Speaker 3: She did. I mean, there was never.
- 41:19Speaker 2: Gonna be a good time for Susie and Justin to
- 41:21Speaker 2: be on this show together at the same time. Like
- 41:22Speaker 2: it was going to end, you know, poorly one way
- 41:25Speaker 2: or another perhaps, and but it was definitely gonna be difficult,
- 41:28Speaker 2: right for both of them.
- 41:30Speaker 3: I don't care. If you truly love somebody and you
- 41:32Speaker 3: don't work out, you know, you might not be right
- 41:33Speaker 3: for each other.
- 41:34Speaker 2: It's still hard to see that person with someone new.
- 41:37Speaker 2: I mean, I've gone through it. I know you've probably
- 41:39Speaker 2: gone through it in your life as well, and it's
- 41:41Speaker 2: like you get to that point where you're like, man,
- 41:43Speaker 2: you know, I want them to be happy, but do
- 41:45Speaker 2: I have to watch it all unfold in real time?
- 41:47Speaker 3: Like I can't really like torture. Torture for sure.
- 42:04Speaker 2: So Susie and Jill are giving date cards as everyone
- 42:07Speaker 2: that's new to the scene arrives. It gets one right,
- 42:09Speaker 2: so they're both and they both basically have one day,
- 42:13Speaker 2: I mean really to make connections that will keep them
- 42:17Speaker 2: in paradise, right because if they don't, the guys are
- 42:19Speaker 2: giving out the roses, so you know, and they both.
- 42:22Speaker 3: Say what they won't do to get those those date cards.
- 42:25Speaker 2: I don't know if you caught that part or not,
- 42:27Speaker 2: but Jill made a pretty funny joke. Jill's like, I mean,
- 42:29Speaker 2: I don't really know a lot the other way to
- 42:30Speaker 2: get date cards, and she made a kind of a
- 42:32Speaker 2: crude noise, which I thought was really funny. And they're like, yeah,
- 42:34Speaker 2: we're not doing that. Neither one of us are doing
- 42:36Speaker 2: that to get a date card for that.
- 42:39Speaker 3: Good for that? So I thought that was pretty good.
- 42:42Speaker 3: So Jeremy and Susie.
- 42:43Speaker 2: So Jeremy pulls Susie side for a chat, which is
- 42:46Speaker 2: ballsy because he does it right in front of Justin.
- 42:49Speaker 3: Right Justin is kind of sitting there, and.
- 42:51Speaker 2: They're just in proximity as you would be with someone
- 42:53Speaker 2: that you just spent a year and a half with,
- 42:55Speaker 2: you know, so they just happened to be in proximity.
- 42:57Speaker 2: He's like, hey, can we can we chat? You know,
- 42:59Speaker 2: and they go over to have a conversation and he
- 43:03Speaker 2: thought she was really cute.
- 43:04Speaker 3: He said. One of the people the.
- 43:06Speaker 2: Names he brought up before he even came to the
- 43:07Speaker 2: island was Susie. Like if she could be there, that'd
- 43:10Speaker 2: be awesome. Here she shows up, so he's pretty excited
- 43:12Speaker 2: about that. I'll let you take this next one. Brian, Parisa, Jonathan,
- 43:16Speaker 2: and Ali Joe returned from their date. So one thing
- 43:20Speaker 2: that I noticed before you before we talk about this,
- 43:23Speaker 2: and I almost fell victim to this, right, was I
- 43:27Speaker 2: thought Brian gave her some sugar and he comes in,
- 43:29Speaker 2: He's like, hey, how is your.
- 43:30Speaker 3: Night, you know or whatever?
- 43:31Speaker 2: And yeah, she she basically is like that's not enough
- 43:35Speaker 2: for her. She's not happy. So a lot goes on
- 43:38Speaker 2: that night, right, so a lot of people do an exercise.
- 43:40Speaker 2: On day five, Brian and Zoe sitting awkward at the bar.
- 43:46Speaker 3: What are your thoughts?
- 43:47Speaker 4: It's just the same, you know, like I think Zoe was.
- 43:51Speaker 4: Zoe was pissed because she had established a connection she
- 43:55Speaker 4: felt like and Brian went on the date with Parisa
- 43:59Speaker 4: and and he came back and from what she said,
- 44:02Speaker 4: he came back and didn't even say hi to her.
- 44:04Speaker 1: You're right, like.
- 44:05Speaker 4: He came in and kind of she was sitting down
- 44:07Speaker 4: and he was standing up and kind of hugged her
- 44:09Speaker 4: from behind, and I guess she just didn't feel like
- 44:14Speaker 4: that was enough for her. And then they were making
- 44:18Speaker 4: out in the pool. But you know, I'm kind of like, well,
- 44:23Speaker 4: yeah they are, but you were being a little standoffish,
- 44:26Speaker 4: like you didn't get up out of your chair to
- 44:28Speaker 4: say welcome back, and you know, you do you want
- 44:33Speaker 4: to go talk? Did you have a fun date or whatever?
- 44:35Speaker 4: And I feel like she was just coming from a
- 44:38Speaker 4: place of hurt, like she's probably like had had feelings already,
- 44:43Speaker 4: or you know, just at least minimal feelings, and she
- 44:46Speaker 4: thought that there would maybe be something there. So I'm
- 44:48Speaker 4: sure it was coming from a place of hurt. But
- 44:51Speaker 4: I do feel like maybe Brian was like, Okay, well
- 44:54Speaker 4: I gave her a little hug from behind. I don't
- 44:57Speaker 4: know that that was would be what I want either,
- 45:00Speaker 4: Like I would want him to like say, hey, can
- 45:02Speaker 4: we go talk?
- 45:03Speaker 3: Can we talk? Yeah?
- 45:04Speaker 4: Yeah? And you know she needed a little bit more.
- 45:07Speaker 4: I feel like you probably should have given her a
- 45:09Speaker 4: little bit more.
- 45:10Speaker 1: He didn't.
- 45:10Speaker 4: Whatever, And so he's going to like hang out with
- 45:13Speaker 4: barsa more, and so be it.
- 45:14Speaker 1: You know whatever, that is what.
- 45:16Speaker 2: It is, all right, So Brian and Zoe said augardly
- 45:19Speaker 2: in silence the bar, Zoe looks pissed, and just to
- 45:22Speaker 2: touch on that too, you know, to start day five,
- 45:24Speaker 2: and Zoe does look pissed, and it's like when someone's
- 45:27Speaker 2: mad at me, I will just say, and you know,
- 45:30Speaker 2: I've been the same woman for twelve years. When I
- 45:33Speaker 2: when I know she's mad at me, I want to
- 45:35Speaker 2: give her her space. I'm not defending Brian, by the way,
- 45:38Speaker 2: I'm just saying it is. And when you haven't really
- 45:41Speaker 2: had time to gel in a relationship very well and
- 45:43Speaker 2: you've only known each other for four days, it's like,
- 45:46Speaker 2: if someone's giving me the stink eye, I'm probably gonna
- 45:48Speaker 2: at this point be like, all right, whatever, moving on. Yeah,
- 45:51Speaker 2: I don't know how much, like because it's like how
- 45:53Speaker 2: much time am I putting into this, you know, And
- 45:55Speaker 2: so you got to kind of read the room a
- 45:56Speaker 2: little bit too, Like I think Zoe probably could have
- 45:59Speaker 2: been served by maybe changing her attitude of touch to
- 46:04Speaker 2: see if it.
- 46:05Speaker 3: Could go somewhere.
- 46:06Speaker 2: But I totally understand how she's feeling and where she's
- 46:08Speaker 2: coming from, and she's entitled to that.
- 46:10Speaker 3: And she did handle herself in a respectful manner.
- 46:13Speaker 2: So Joe Joe Jonathan basically says he sees a lot
- 46:16Speaker 2: of potential on Alex still thinks to each other's number
- 46:18Speaker 2: one even after his date with Jill. So they go
- 46:23Speaker 2: on a friend date, which Alex basically says she's totally
- 46:26Speaker 2: cool with.
- 46:26Speaker 3: Go have fun. You know, he goes on the date.
- 46:30Speaker 3: It had the potential.
- 46:32Speaker 2: I mean, had there been another day, had Jill perhaps
- 46:35Speaker 2: been on that island for another day, right, or if
- 46:38Speaker 2: you know a day previous that had potential to go somewhere.
- 46:41Speaker 2: Don't you think like they're playing twister, It's like it's
- 46:43Speaker 2: they're kissing. It's like, wow, I thought it was cute.
- 46:47Speaker 1: Yeah, they had a little chemistry.
- 46:49Speaker 4: I think it was definitely friend zone chemistry, and they
- 46:51Speaker 4: were just trying you know. But I but I love
- 46:54Speaker 4: that he went along with it. You know, he went
- 46:57Speaker 4: on the date and was open to their being a
- 47:00Speaker 4: connection with her instead of just shutting her out and
- 47:03Speaker 4: being like, you're new, I've already kind of chatted with
- 47:06Speaker 4: a couple other girls. So I think that that like
- 47:09Speaker 4: he's showing how I think you you do paradise, you know,
- 47:13Speaker 4: I've never gone to paradise, but I feel like he's
- 47:15Speaker 4: he's handling.
- 47:16Speaker 1: Himself really well.
- 47:18Speaker 2: Yeah I do too, And again full disclosure, I know
- 47:21Speaker 2: the dude. I like him, so I like seeing himself
- 47:23Speaker 2: he handle himself this way. I think it's funny, you know.
- 47:26Speaker 2: And this is foreshadowing perhaps, but Wells makes the comment
- 47:29Speaker 2: that he doesn't see Jonathan and Alex's relationship, you know,
- 47:32Speaker 2: going the distance, and he's.
- 47:33Speaker 3: Like, I've been doing this for a long time. I
- 47:35Speaker 3: know it.
- 47:35Speaker 2: I never re So that's either gonna be foreshadowing that
- 47:39Speaker 2: he's right again or it's gonna be totally.
- 47:41Speaker 3: Blown up in his face. In my opinion, We're going
- 47:43Speaker 3: to see how this goes.
- 47:44Speaker 2: But yeah, so Jesse, he's the one of the first
- 47:48Speaker 2: to welcome Susie and Jill. Of course, he gives Susie
- 47:51Speaker 2: a daycard for an afternoon on the water. He gives
- 47:53Speaker 2: Jill the daycard for the VIP s the VIP and
- 47:56Speaker 2: BP yeh got pips. Thank you, And he says that
- 48:03Speaker 2: he says it out loud. He's like, tonight four ladies
- 48:05Speaker 2: are going home, which means only six roses going out, right,
- 48:09Speaker 2: So I think it's interesting Zoe and Brian finally have
- 48:13Speaker 2: their moment where.
- 48:14Speaker 3: They're clear in the air. It's it's aggressive, right, I mean,
- 48:18Speaker 3: it's it's tense.
- 48:20Speaker 2: I felt like I was like watching that conversation, I'm like, god, man,
- 48:23Speaker 2: I found Brian. I would just be quiet right now
- 48:25Speaker 2: because I would hate to watch us at home and
- 48:27Speaker 2: see myself.
- 48:28Speaker 3: Looking like this.
- 48:29Speaker 2: I would I'd just be like, I'm just gonna take
- 48:31Speaker 2: a beating here. Go ahead, Zoe, just go after me.
- 48:33Speaker 2: I deserve Yeah, totally, he can't.
- 48:35Speaker 3: He can't back down. Man. He stays in it, you know,
- 48:38Speaker 3: but he finally tells it. The truth has a connection.
- 48:41Speaker 4: I was like, it needed to be said. He needed
- 48:43Speaker 4: to say that, and you know, Zoe walks away and
- 48:48Speaker 4: she's not happy, but I but I get it, like
- 48:50Speaker 4: that was her really sole connection because she did end
- 48:55Speaker 4: up talking to Dale too, and Dale basically told her
- 48:58Speaker 4: that he's calling with Kat at least at this point.
- 49:02Speaker 2: So no, yeah, I thought that was interesting. I mean,
- 49:07Speaker 2: it could have gone differently for Zoe. I mean, this
- 49:09Speaker 2: is an argument to be made, right to play the
- 49:11Speaker 2: game a little bit. I suppose it could have gone
- 49:13Speaker 2: differently for Zoe had she just not sit around salkon
- 49:15Speaker 2: all day while he was out on that date with Jill.
- 49:17Speaker 2: She could have been being fun and flirty with a
- 49:19Speaker 2: bunch of other people and whatever. You know, I guess yeah.
- 49:23Speaker 4: Although I also feel like this season, and maybe it's
- 49:27Speaker 4: different from past seasons, but I feel like there are
- 49:30Speaker 4: I can't remember who came in and they were talking
- 49:32Speaker 4: about who's with who, and I remember thinking, is this
- 49:38Speaker 4: different now because it seemed like a lot of people
- 49:42Speaker 4: are coupled up. I think Susie when she came in
- 49:45Speaker 4: and Jill was giving her the rundown, She's.
- 49:47Speaker 1: Like, there's already like couples. What are you talking about?
- 49:50Speaker 4: Like, I think she felt like she was coming in
- 49:52Speaker 4: pretty early and for them to already be people.
- 49:55Speaker 1: So who knows what was happening in that moment.
- 49:58Speaker 4: And you know, Zoe, I have felt like all these
- 50:01Speaker 4: people were already coupled up and she didn't have the
- 50:03Speaker 4: opportunity to go talk to anyone, and maybe she didn't
- 50:06Speaker 4: have like the chemistry with anyone, or she wasn't attracted
- 50:10Speaker 4: to anyone other than Dale and Brian, So you know,
- 50:16Speaker 4: who knows what was happening behind the scenes. I just
- 50:18Speaker 4: feel like, you know, we.
- 50:23Speaker 1: Yeah, Zolle and Brian are definitely not a thing anymore.
- 50:27Speaker 1: I don't know that anyone's I don't know if anyone's
- 50:29Speaker 1: a thing for Brian.
- 50:30Speaker 4: I think he'll probably leave Paradise thinking I'm just going
- 50:33Speaker 4: to get to know as many people as I can,
- 50:36Speaker 4: which is fine.
- 50:36Speaker 2: Like I said, he does seem very into Prisa though,
- 50:39Speaker 2: so who knows, this could be a redeeming thing for him, right.
- 50:42Speaker 3: I thought a.
- 50:43Speaker 2: Really cool moment too. I love seeing like a little
- 50:45Speaker 2: bit of girl power here. Lexi and Susie kind of
- 50:48Speaker 2: have a moment and Lexi is like, look, I'm just
- 50:50Speaker 2: trying to be respectful, and you.
- 50:52Speaker 3: Know, I loved that, I really did. I thought that was.
- 50:55Speaker 2: All yeah, And and Susie's basically, look, man, I get it.
- 51:00Speaker 2: I appreciate it. We've talked, we're supportive of each other.
- 51:03Speaker 2: We want you you know, this is something, you know.
- 51:05Speaker 2: It was almost like she was being supportive of their relationship,
- 51:08Speaker 2: like given the no you know, like you can do this,
- 51:10Speaker 2: you know. And I thought that was really nice of
- 51:13Speaker 2: both of them. You know, probably would have been good
- 51:15Speaker 2: to bring justin in on that conversation too, just to
- 51:18Speaker 2: kind of let them know, you know, where everyone's was
- 51:20Speaker 2: at Ali Joe and Dale. Ali Joe obviously knows how
- 51:25Speaker 2: to play the game. I mean, yasmine Bleeth. Also in
- 51:28Speaker 2: every episode of Baywatch would have done. This is the
- 51:30Speaker 2: same thing she pulls aside Dale. So she's going after
- 51:33Speaker 2: number two just in case, right, just the case it
- 51:35Speaker 2: doesn't work out with number one, and you know, probably
- 51:39Speaker 2: a smart move.
- 51:40Speaker 3: She pulls Dale aside.
- 51:42Speaker 2: Kisses him like a pretty a pretty intimate kiss, like
- 51:46Speaker 2: Dale's not afraid to. He calls her Jojo, which I
- 51:49Speaker 2: was like, there's only one Jojo Bro Joe, b B.
- 51:55Speaker 3: There's only one Jojoe.
- 51:56Speaker 4: Oh no, no, I'm sorry everyone, I'm apologizing.
- 52:03Speaker 2: I'm not known for my original humor. Okay, Well, what
- 52:07Speaker 2: I thought was great was Kat Like she sees them
- 52:09Speaker 2: over there. Instead of sulking and getting all upset, she
- 52:13Speaker 2: decides to go out and play with little mermaids in
- 52:15Speaker 2: the in the sea right where he can hear right
- 52:17Speaker 2: in her eyeline, which I thought brilliant.
- 52:22Speaker 1: Yes, I thought so too. That was very cute, And.
- 52:24Speaker 4: I actually I think that she's actually I think that
- 52:29Speaker 4: Wells may have touched on this, but she wasn't like
- 52:32Speaker 4: kind of being like agro jealous, crazy, And I feel
- 52:37Speaker 4: like on Bachelor in Paradise, the last season she was on,
- 52:40Speaker 4: she may have gotten a little jealous and like spoken
- 52:44Speaker 4: or said as much. And I think Wells pointed out
- 52:47Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm crazy for remembering this, but
- 52:49Speaker 4: I feel like Wells was like, is this really hard
- 52:51Speaker 4: for you to, like, you know, have Dale over there?
- 52:55Speaker 4: And She's like, uh huh, really really hard. But I
- 52:57Speaker 4: think she's really doing I think she's doing great job
- 53:00Speaker 4: of like keeping her emotions in check and just letting
- 53:04Speaker 4: things play out and like putting herself out there and
- 53:07Speaker 4: like connecting with him when she gets the opportunity to.
- 53:10Speaker 1: So I think that's that's that's great. I think she's
- 53:13Speaker 1: a smart herself really well too.
- 53:15Speaker 2: It shows emotional growth, right, I mean she's learning, right,
- 53:19Speaker 2: I mean, what's the definition of insanity, right, doing the
- 53:21Speaker 2: same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
- 53:23Speaker 3: So she's not.
- 53:24Speaker 2: Doing that, which is nice. All right, So real quick,
- 53:27Speaker 2: we'll touch on the Jeremy and Susie date. So Jeremy showed,
- 53:30Speaker 2: you know, Susie reaches basically advice Jeremy to go on
- 53:34Speaker 2: the jet ski date where her they have a great time, right,
- 53:37Speaker 2: and Jeremy again, much like what I thought Jonathan did.
- 53:42Speaker 3: It was really respectful. Jeremy goes over tells Bailey about
- 53:45Speaker 3: the date.
- 53:45Speaker 2: She's like, go have fun, have a great time, you know,
- 53:48Speaker 2: and she feels confident about their connection, is like, go
- 53:51Speaker 2: to it, you know, which I think with a girl
- 53:54Speaker 2: like Susie, I would think I could see people being like,
- 53:56Speaker 2: oh my god, you know what is going on, sous
- 53:58Speaker 2: He's a great personality, super prior to here she goes.
- 54:01Speaker 2: But they go out, they have a great day. You know,
- 54:04Speaker 2: they're out there having a really wonderful time.
- 54:08Speaker 3: You know.
- 54:08Speaker 2: Jeremy tells Susie wouldn't have wanted to go on a
- 54:10Speaker 2: date with anybody else, on the same date with anybody else.
- 54:13Speaker 2: He loves that he's getting the knower, you know. He
- 54:15Speaker 2: gives her a little bit of a kiss. They have
- 54:17Speaker 2: a little bit of a romantic connection there. So I
- 54:21Speaker 2: thought that was interesting. And then Joe and Jonathan of
- 54:25Speaker 2: course on their their VIP b I P suitet date, right,
- 54:28Speaker 2: they're playing twister, they're drinking bloody.
- 54:29Speaker 3: Mary's a little bit of a love connection.
- 54:32Speaker 2: No one knows where that's what's gonna go he even
- 54:34Speaker 2: says he's like, you know, he's clearly got a type, right,
- 54:37Speaker 2: because both girls that he's hanging out with are very
- 54:40Speaker 2: kind of funny, keep it friendly, keep it light vibe, right,
- 54:44Speaker 2: and uh, you know, and so from a personality perspective,
- 54:48Speaker 2: at least, uh, he's gotta gotta type. So they both
- 54:51Speaker 2: are a little bit surprised by the spark they feel.
- 54:53Speaker 2: But you know, they come back from the date and
- 54:56Speaker 2: of course now it is time for the roast ceremony,
- 54:58Speaker 2: so you're you go, right, the guys who've got the keys?
- 55:02Speaker 3: What do you think about that?
- 55:03Speaker 2: Well?
- 55:03Speaker 4: Yeah, like, I think it was a little tense because
- 55:06Speaker 4: there are people who and always this is the case
- 55:08Speaker 4: when it comes to Bachelor in Paradise rose ceremonies, you
- 55:11Speaker 4: don't know at least a few people who are going
- 55:14Speaker 4: to give you know, their roses too, and I think
- 55:19Speaker 4: you know, most of them were you could probably guess,
- 55:22Speaker 4: you know, Spencer and Jess are they only chose each
- 55:26Speaker 4: other for their for the kissing booth, and you know
- 55:29Speaker 4: they give kisses.
- 55:30Speaker 1: To each other during the rose ceremonies, so they're they're solid.
- 55:36Speaker 4: Alex I thought I thought there might be a chance
- 55:39Speaker 4: of Jonathan giving Jill his rose, but you know, because
- 55:43Speaker 4: he's had more time with Alex, I just felt like
- 55:46Speaker 4: that was probably going to be the safe bet. And
- 55:49Speaker 4: then Dale has you know, even though he had some
- 55:52Speaker 4: great moments with Ali Joe, they they seemed like they
- 55:56Speaker 4: have a lot of chemistry in terms of the kissing
- 55:59Speaker 4: booth and I hanging out afterwards.
- 56:01Speaker 2: You know what I really liked about that this was
- 56:03Speaker 2: a redeeming moment for Dale for me because I'm still
- 56:06Speaker 2: not sure what I think about him, right, I know
- 56:08Speaker 2: he's good looking and all that good stuff, but like
- 56:10Speaker 2: I was still kind of on the fence. Was when
- 56:12Speaker 2: he kind of goes, I was in the middle of
- 56:14Speaker 2: talking to I don't know who he was talking to. Actually,
- 56:17Speaker 2: I think it might have been Ali Joe, I'm not sure,
- 56:19Speaker 2: and he goes and I look across the bar and
- 56:20Speaker 2: I see Kat and they play back the conversation where
- 56:24Speaker 2: he's like talking and he like looks at Kat and
- 56:26Speaker 2: he just sort of like stops and looks at her
- 56:28Speaker 2: and lost train and lost his train of thought, and
- 56:30Speaker 2: he goes, I haven't had that feeling and so long,
- 56:33Speaker 2: And in that moment, I knew it was her, and
- 56:34Speaker 2: that kind of gave me this sense of redemption for him,
- 56:37Speaker 2: Like not that he doesn't owe me anything as a viewer, right,
- 56:41Speaker 2: but for whatever reason, my I know Claire from years
- 56:45Speaker 2: of us knowing Claire, and I like, you know, I
- 56:47Speaker 2: didn't like how that whole thing went down, and so
- 56:49Speaker 2: in my mind, I'm kind of like, what's up with
- 56:51Speaker 2: this dude?
- 56:51Speaker 3: You know?
- 56:52Speaker 2: And I thought in that moment, I was kind of like, wow,
- 56:55Speaker 2: that's that's okay, good for you. You did the right thing.
- 56:58Speaker 2: You know, in my mind, I guess whatever the right
- 56:59Speaker 2: thing is, and who knows what that means.
- 57:01Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he just he's following his heart. Yeah,
- 57:04Speaker 4: he's following his heart. He's like, okay, well that kind
- 57:07Speaker 4: of gave me a sense of who I should pick,
- 57:09Speaker 4: and so Dale picks Kat and then we've.
- 57:13Speaker 3: Gone to Jeremy.
- 57:14Speaker 1: Is next Jeremy.
- 57:17Speaker 3: Jimmy's between Bayle and Susie, right, He's.
- 57:19Speaker 4: On the fence, but he goes after well he chose
- 57:24Speaker 4: he chose Bailey, And I was thinking, actually, never mind,
- 57:29Speaker 4: Jeremy chose Bailey. So we've got Jeremy and Bailey and Susie.
- 57:34Speaker 4: At this point, you're thinking, okay, well is Susie going
- 57:38Speaker 4: to go home.
- 57:38Speaker 1: Is nobody going to swipe her up? Because she is
- 57:41Speaker 1: a freaking cash I love Susie.
- 57:44Speaker 3: So anyway, So Brian's up next.
- 57:47Speaker 4: Yeah, we've got Brian and he gives his rose to Parsa.
- 57:51Speaker 1: There's no shock there, not a.
- 57:53Speaker 2: Shock at all. Spencer's not happy about it, though. Spencer's
- 57:56Speaker 2: thinks he's done Zoe dirty. So he Yeah, Johnathy comes up.
- 58:02Speaker 2: It's between Alex and Jill. He goes with Alex, which
- 58:06Speaker 2: also not a shock. Right, and last, but not least,
- 58:10Speaker 2: it's Justin's turn to get up. And this is the
- 58:13Speaker 2: moment we've all been waiting for friends. He gets up there,
- 58:16Speaker 2: he's standing there. I gotta be honest with you, I
- 58:20Speaker 2: was I need to know how you were feeling about this.
- 58:23Speaker 2: I'm like, in my mind, I'm like, there's no way
- 58:27Speaker 2: that he's gonna choose Susie. There's just no way he's
- 58:29Speaker 2: gonna He's gonna know that it's time to move on,
- 58:32Speaker 2: you know. But then, but knowing him and knowing how
- 58:36Speaker 2: sensitive of a guy he is, just from the interviews
- 58:38Speaker 2: I've done with him in the past, I wasn't shocked
- 58:42Speaker 2: in this moment.
- 58:43Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, he did he did it.
- 58:47Speaker 1: I knew he was going to choose Susie. I don't know.
- 58:50Speaker 4: I just had this feeling that he was going to
- 58:53Speaker 4: choose Susie. And they touched on it in a couple
- 58:56Speaker 4: of different conversations where they talked about, you know, they
- 58:59Speaker 4: were sitting on his couch and telling each other that
- 59:03Speaker 4: they were always going to take care of each other
- 59:05Speaker 4: and always look out for each other.
- 59:06Speaker 1: And I think it was like a pinky promise or something.
- 59:08Speaker 4: And yeah, he's like a man of his word, and
- 59:12Speaker 4: I could see that coming.
- 59:15Speaker 1: I didn't know for sure, but I.
- 59:16Speaker 4: Was like, I have a really good feeling that he
- 59:19Speaker 4: is going to pick Susie, and I part of me
- 59:23Speaker 4: is still shocked that. So what happened is, you know,
- 59:28Speaker 4: he says to Susie, will you know?
- 59:31Speaker 1: Will you accept this rose? And she's like, wait, what
- 59:34Speaker 1: are you doing? Why are you doing this? And she's
- 59:36Speaker 1: starting to cry. She's like, no, what are you doing?
- 59:39Speaker 4: You need to stop, No, stop, don't do this, you know,
- 59:43Speaker 4: and she says, I'm really sorry, that's a really really
- 59:46Speaker 4: sweet thing, but I can't let you do this. I
- 59:48Speaker 4: can't accept your rose. And she goes back to where
- 59:51Speaker 4: she was standing before. And then it is silence, and
- 59:55Speaker 4: Susie's looking at Lexie because she's standing right next to her,
- 59:58Speaker 4: and she's like, are you okay? Like I'm so sorry,
- 1:00:01Speaker 4: Like she's apologizing to her.
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: She goes, he only he only did that, so he
- 1:00:06Speaker 2: wants to keep me here. It's almost like she was like,
- 1:00:08Speaker 2: trust me, he's not still into me. It was like
- 1:00:09Speaker 2: it was almost like she was fatally he's not doing
- 1:00:13Speaker 2: the right thing. He's not you know, and they're all
- 1:00:14Speaker 2: holding yeah.
- 1:00:16Speaker 3: Right, I know.
- 1:00:17Speaker 4: It was such a sweet moment between them, and then
- 1:00:21Speaker 4: there's silence, and at this point I was like, is
- 1:00:24Speaker 4: Jesse not even in the room, because why isn't he
- 1:00:27Speaker 4: saying anything?
- 1:00:29Speaker 3: There's the club Sandwich. Well he's like this is amazing.
- 1:00:32Speaker 4: I mean, I know they're in his ears saying don't
- 1:00:35Speaker 4: you dare say anything? And then Justin walks away. And
- 1:00:41Speaker 4: after he walks away, Susie's like, I need to go
- 1:00:45Speaker 4: talk to him. Where did he go? And so and
- 1:00:48Speaker 4: then and then the episode ends, so we are left
- 1:00:52Speaker 4: not knowing if Susie is going to stay because Justin
- 1:00:57Speaker 4: gave her or asked her if she wanted his rose
- 1:01:02Speaker 4: and then we don't know if she says no, is
- 1:01:06Speaker 4: he going to have the opportunity to give it to
- 1:01:08Speaker 4: somebody else? Like, is he going to have the opportunity
- 1:01:10Speaker 4: to go back and say, actually, Lexi, I would love
- 1:01:13Speaker 4: for you to have this rose because you didn't accept it,
- 1:01:16Speaker 4: and I was you take it? I know, I know,
- 1:01:20Speaker 4: of course, No, I don't.
- 1:01:21Speaker 2: Know how about you you as a woman, a very
- 1:01:24Speaker 2: strong and confident woman. I mean, you're not used to
- 1:01:26Speaker 2: being in second place to anybody either, unlike any of
- 1:01:29Speaker 2: these girls in there. You if a guy tries to
- 1:01:33Speaker 2: give a rose to his ex in order to give
- 1:01:35Speaker 2: her an opportunity to stay, yeah, is it possible that
- 1:01:39Speaker 2: you get past their prior relationship drama? And when he
- 1:01:43Speaker 2: comes back, he's like, LEXI, I really want to give
- 1:01:45Speaker 2: this to you. I hope you can forgive everything that
- 1:01:47Speaker 2: went on here. Would you take it or what would
- 1:01:50Speaker 2: you say? You'd be like, no, thanks, I'm good.
- 1:01:52Speaker 1: I mean I wouldn't I wouldn't be rude about it.
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: I would just say I think what you're doing is
- 1:01:56Speaker 1: very very sweet, but I don't think that this rose
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: is meant for me, And I'm just I'm going to
- 1:02:02Speaker 1: go home. You know, like I wouldn't.
- 1:02:04Speaker 4: I think that I can't see Lexi taking a rose
- 1:02:08Speaker 4: after Susie.
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: Said said no to it.
- 1:02:12Speaker 4: I mean maybe someone who's not connected, like the four
- 1:02:15Speaker 4: girls who didn't get roses were Ali, Joe, Zoe, Jill,
- 1:02:18Speaker 4: and Lexi. So I don't know, maybe like Zoe or Ali,
- 1:02:22Speaker 4: Joe or Jill would be like, I'll take it, you.
- 1:02:26Speaker 1: Know, I'll stay.
- 1:02:28Speaker 3: You know, Elie Joe would take it for sure. I'm well, I.
- 1:02:32Speaker 4: Mean because the fact of the matter is there will
- 1:02:35Speaker 4: be other men coming onto the beach, so there will
- 1:02:37Speaker 4: be other opportunities to connect with people. So like I get,
- 1:02:43Speaker 4: I get why Justin did it, because maybe he didn't
- 1:02:46Speaker 4: see like a complete future with Lexi. But I also
- 1:02:51Speaker 4: feel like, you know, that was his Like I also
- 1:02:54Speaker 4: felt like when he gave when he called Susie's name,
- 1:02:57Speaker 4: I'm like, he's gonna ask Susie if she wants accept
- 1:03:00Speaker 4: his rose, and then I could see him saying, I
- 1:03:04Speaker 4: want you to stay.
- 1:03:05Speaker 1: I'm going to go home.
- 1:03:06Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's kind of what I think will happen, right,
- 1:03:09Speaker 2: because we obviously.
- 1:03:10Speaker 3: Don't know it's a cliffhanger. We don't know what's going
- 1:03:12Speaker 3: to happen.
- 1:03:13Speaker 2: I think I think that is what is going to happen,
- 1:03:15Speaker 2: is he And you know what, sometimes like I'll say this,
- 1:03:20Speaker 2: like there's been times when I would rather myself get
- 1:03:23Speaker 2: hurt than someone else get hurt, or I'd rather just
- 1:03:26Speaker 2: take take the brunt of it and let someone else
- 1:03:28Speaker 2: go on and have an opportunity for something that maybe
- 1:03:31Speaker 2: I didn't. I know that I've done that before, and
- 1:03:34Speaker 2: I could see that being what Justin's thought process was
- 1:03:36Speaker 2: here because I don't think he did it seeing a
- 1:03:39Speaker 2: future with Susie.
- 1:03:40Speaker 3: I think he did it. No, No, you eve, he
- 1:03:41Speaker 3: had a chance to stay and meet someone new.
- 1:03:43Speaker 4: You know, totally agree. That was totally my mindset too.
- 1:03:47Speaker 4: We will see what happens in episode three, and that
- 1:03:51Speaker 4: is tonight, so make sure you're watching.
- 1:03:54Speaker 1: But also I loved the like.
- 1:03:57Speaker 4: What's happening in the preview for the next Episode's come
- 1:04:00Speaker 4: in and Leslie's like the party has arrived or something
- 1:04:04Speaker 4: like that.
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: I was like, Yes, I cannot wait.
- 1:04:08Speaker 4: I cannot wait to see them in the mix and
- 1:04:11Speaker 4: how all of it like.
- 1:04:12Speaker 2: You and I just love the Goldens so much and
- 1:04:14Speaker 2: I'm so excited because you know, it's also one of
- 1:04:17Speaker 2: those things you're finally going to have. I mean, you know,
- 1:04:20Speaker 2: I'm sure, I am sure there's going to be some
- 1:04:24Speaker 2: awkward moments of stuff that I was all concerned about,
- 1:04:27Speaker 2: but I'm also sure that there's going to be some
- 1:04:29Speaker 2: pretty tender moments too. Like, you know, I'm just thinking
- 1:04:33Speaker 2: of a couple of the guys that are going to
- 1:04:34Speaker 2: be there, who are such good dudes, and it's like
- 1:04:37Speaker 2: I can just see them being like the voice of
- 1:04:39Speaker 2: reason and like, hey, you know what, honey, you're you're
- 1:04:42Speaker 2: too good for that guy, like.
- 1:04:43Speaker 3: Just let it go, you know, or whatever.
- 1:04:45Speaker 2: Totally, yeah, sometimes people need a little bit of guidance,
- 1:04:48Speaker 2: and I feel like if nothing else, Golden will bring us,
- 1:04:52Speaker 2: the Goldens will bring us that, right, I mean.
- 1:04:54Speaker 3: And maybe they'll have some romance going too.
- 1:04:56Speaker 2: I mean, I think there's a couple guys there that
- 1:04:58Speaker 2: I could very much see, you know, finding love with
- 1:05:03Speaker 2: some of the Goldens that I've seen that they're putting
- 1:05:04Speaker 2: on the show. And it'll be really interesting to see
- 1:05:07Speaker 2: how those chemistry tests go as well, you know, if
- 1:05:10Speaker 2: they're going to have the same type of chemistry tests
- 1:05:12Speaker 2: or not.
- 1:05:13Speaker 1: I'm so excited. I can't wait.
- 1:05:15Speaker 4: I cannot wait, okay, well we got to rap, guys.
- 1:05:19Speaker 4: But thank you so much for listening to this episode
- 1:05:22Speaker 4: of Almost Famous with Trista and Bob, and make sure
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