Latest / Brandon Fogal Evolution / #276 - Moon Mission: Truth or Illusion? Artemis, Polygraphs, and the Quest for Certainty
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- 0:00Are you skeptical that we have been to the moon?
- 0:03Are you skeptical that we just went back to the moon? We did a little loop-de-loop
- 0:07around it. I have my biases.
- 0:09I didn't always think this. I want to start it off with, I am very skeptical
- 0:14that we originally went to the moon back in the 60s, the Apollo missions.
- 0:18I am curious about the Artemis missions right now that we just got our astronauts back.
- 0:24But are you a person that is skeptical or do you buy into it?
- 0:27And do you do it as a litmus test to someone's patriotism for the United States?
- 0:33Because I know that is thrown out there a lot. We're going to take a look at
- 0:37a couple of the things that went down just this past week.
- 0:40Astronauts got brought back safely it's hard for things just not to just vomit
- 0:45out how i feel about something immediately but i try i try to exercise restraint
- 0:50about this going into this because i i do have very strong opinions but i'm
- 0:56very open because i don't know i've never been into space.
- 1:00I don't know what's up there i don't know what's up there but we're also going
- 1:04to take a look at a clip from a little while ago, Tucker Carlson did with AJ Gentile.
- 1:10And he's the guy who does the Y, the Y files are on his YouTube channel.
- 1:14He's very, he does a lot of good work. They got into the moon missions.
- 1:19Were they real? Were they not? We're going to analyze that as well.
- 1:22But let's start it off with, started off with a bang with one of the,
- 1:26looks like the, one of the astronauts that actually went on the moon mission.
- 1:31I think this is the same guy. I'm sure everybody out there probably already
- 1:34knows, but listen to what he says.
- 1:37This is the first time we're going to send humans to the moon,
- 1:39and we're going to have humans in low Earth orbit. That is awesome. Rewind that.
- 1:43Listen to this again. This is the first time we're going to send humans to the
- 1:46moon, and we're going to have humans in low Earth orbit. That is awesome. You hear that?
- 1:50He just said, this is the first time we're going to send astronauts to the moon. That's interesting.
- 1:55That's interesting. So, that looks like the same guy. I'm sure everybody already knows it.
- 1:59Yeah, that's him. They are building up to going back to the moon, doing all these
- 2:02missions that's him right there and some good
- 2:05solid guys the black guy i i'm a
- 2:08white guy who cares we are different colors you know he's a very solid guy he
- 2:12seems like a very stand-up person that and everybody keeps throwing in there
- 2:16with charlie kirk would he have liked a black pilot to be piling in our our
- 2:21missions to the moon and just trying to be like oh it's snarky and stupid.
- 2:27Yes, black people are good at being drivers and astronauts, just like white people are.
- 2:32It doesn't matter about the whole thing with Charlie Kirk was he cared about
- 2:36like the this, this DDI thing.
- 2:39Do you want somebody who's been made a pilot of the plane you're going to fly
- 2:42based on the color of their skin?
- 2:44I think that was the whole point. And anybody that doesn't see that,
- 2:48you know, that's kind of where I feel about that.
- 2:51But that this right here, you can see this looks like the same guy who was just
- 2:54saying that. And he went back up there.
- 2:56Tell me if I'm wrong, but that looks like we are. This is the first time we're
- 3:00going back to the moon. Interesting. Very interesting.
- 3:03Very, very interesting. All right. And this is the A.J.
- 3:07Gentile and Tucker Carlson when they discussed this. And A.J.
- 3:12Put Tucker on blast on his own podcast, made him squirm and feel a little bit
- 3:17weird when he asked him point blank, do you believe we went to the moon?
- 3:21Do you believe the Apollo missions? That was real. And you can tell Tucker wasn't
- 3:25ready for it, and he didn't like actually being asked that, but he gave his
- 3:29opinion. He gave what he believed about it. Whoa, I just lost my spot.
- 3:35Let me fix that i meant to push play but i pushed
- 3:38the wrong button but these are the moments that we live for
- 3:41these are the moments that we live for that's always she starts
- 3:44to i'll be able to find it don't you worry don't anybody
- 3:47worry and anybody has questions about this let put it in the chat let me know
- 3:50what you what you think i'm gonna back it up a little bit where i actually wanted
- 3:54it to go off of whatever i'm gonna let it play for a second or we'll just pick
- 3:59it up right here or whatever see if i can hit it right this time boop i saw
- 4:03psychic beings on the moon he said they're aware of us.
- 4:06And I think those are the things that make me a little bit nervous.
- 4:08Did the crew of any of the Apollo missions, when they landed on the moon,
- 4:11do they see anything? Officially, no. Officially, no.
- 4:14The story goes that there's a radio blackout when Neil and Buzz are up there,
- 4:19when they first get there. And there is a radio blackout.
- 4:21And the story is, well, how the orbit works, sometimes the radio signal drops, whatever.
- 4:25The story is they switch over to the medical channel and said,
- 4:28they're here, they're on the crater, and they can see us. That's what the story is.
- 4:33And Ingo Swann said he saw things on the moon. He saw structures.
- 4:37He saw beings that are there. If you go through secondary sources,
- 4:40every astronaut has seen strange things in space.
- 4:43Edgar Mitchell is on record as saying, UFOs are real. They're extraterrestrial.
- 4:47Roswell is real. That happened. We have craft.
- 4:49The government is lying. This is the sixth man to walk on the moon.
- 4:51This is not a kook. This is an American hero.
- 4:54So something's clearly going on up there. But anyway, that's the nutshell.
- 4:58What do we know about the moon exactly?
- 4:59Not- I just want to kind of just interrupt this for just a second.
- 5:03I feel like just getting into this kind of this kookery, this craziness of is
- 5:07our government always telling us the truth or not? It's tough.
- 5:10It's really tough because there's probably a lot of truth and lies mixed in.
- 5:15And it's you got to think about it from the government's point of view.
- 5:19They want to do for our interest at times, but for their own interests,
- 5:24they might be lying to us, but they believe it's for our own good.
- 5:28The more that I keep going down this, it seems like and I don't try to I don't
- 5:31try to weave everything back over to Candace Owens, but you're like,
- 5:35whoa, Candace Owens, I've heard her.
- 5:36She doesn't agree with the moon missions. She doesn't agree that they happened.
- 5:39I've listened to a lot of things that she's said, and it's almost scary to me
- 5:43how much, how many things I agree with Candace Owens, her point of view,
- 5:47just way out there topics.
- 5:48There was just something I was just listening to yesterday.
- 5:51It wasn't her most recent podcast, but it was like probably from a week ago
- 5:54that she said something that was just really out there.
- 5:57Just, and I was like, I didn't know you're even thinking about that.
- 6:00I actually believe that same thing, too.
- 6:01I don't agree with some of the things that she's doing, the agenda she's pushing
- 6:05and the direction she's going.
- 6:07But in a lot of just random things, I agree with her and it's weird.
- 6:12And so I think she is dialed in. She's got her pulse on something in certain areas. Very much.
- 6:17Not very much at all. Let me ask you, do you think we landed on the moon?
- 6:21I have a lot of thoughts on it that I never get into.
- 6:23I mean, you squirm the way I do and asked. I mean, I went down this once because
- 6:28it's my job, And I found it really distressing, so I just kind of give up.
- 6:31But I did, you know, you never know who's telling you the truth about anything,
- 6:34right? But I talked to people, you know, I sort of do trust.
- 6:37Like, no, it's not. But then I thought, you know, whatever, I don't, I don't.
- 6:40There are a lot. Right there, Tucker's shaking his head. He's saying,
- 6:43no, no. Like, he's hinting at that he doesn't agree that we went to the moon.
- 6:47I spent my life looking into things and trying to figure out what's real and
- 6:50what's not. And I do think in midlife, you realize, having done this for so
- 6:53many years, that like some things you're just, you're not going to know. Right.
- 6:55And I think you can go crazy. Right.
- 6:58Because I've pushed to the edge of it myself, trying to figure out what's right,
- 7:01what's true, what actually happened, what reality is.
- 7:04But I think it's unattainable on certain sources, maybe one of them.
- 7:06I will say, we accidentally taped over the original footage because we ran out of Betamax. Yeah.
- 7:12And the, you know, the schematic drawings of the spacecraft are like missing
- 7:16and all this. It's like... Telemetry data is gone. Telemetry data is gone. It's like, stop.
- 7:20They can't replicate the technology. Right, yeah. So that would,
- 7:22I'll say this, if it was faked, of course you can't prove that.
- 7:26Then it's just one more instance of the U.S.
- 7:28Government having to backfill, you know, a 57-year-old lie.
- 7:32And it's done that a lot. It's certainly done it with the murder of John F. Kennedy.
- 7:35So this really gets to my perspective. A lot of people that I talked to,
- 7:41I remember the very first time, I don't know if that I even like somebody brought
- 7:44up like that I started listening to somebody.
- 7:47I'm not saying my wife said that she didn't believe it, but she had questions
- 7:50about it. And I remember she said it to my dad.
- 7:53She like that we went there, but my dad's military. My dad, he knows a lot of
- 7:57these things, but he's a person that he does, he agrees with it from what I can glean from it.
- 8:03And I think a lot of people that are boomers in that time period,
- 8:07and even other people that I've talked to that were there during it,
- 8:11they woke up to watch the moon missions, they agree with it,
- 8:15and they have that perspective that it's.
- 8:18You're almost being unpatriotic if you don't, or you're kind of being silly and stupid if you don't.
- 8:23But I just think just this day and age right now, so many people of,
- 8:28I'm a millennial, but people, Gen Z,
- 8:31they grew up with just in the heat of the moment,
- 8:36us being lied to, like point blank about COVID and just the government just
- 8:40funneling down lies to everyone so that they could have exercise control over
- 8:45it and that people just buy into it. So there is just this.
- 8:49Thing that has been created of skeptical views from
- 8:52people now that it's hard to know what is what
- 8:55what's real and even going back to like the 60s
- 8:59the 70s when it would have been much easier to fake things
- 9:02i mean back then they didn't the internet wasn't out
- 9:05for everybody to fact check and but now
- 9:08it's like we went even like further than that and now
- 9:11it's like we don't know what's what within the
- 9:13last year AI and now that these videos
- 9:17and pictures and everything that can be created just
- 9:20from AI generating something to me
- 9:23it just is very convenient right now we're
- 9:26going back to the moon after all this comes out where this ability that the
- 9:31government can even more lie to us an easier lie to us now we're going back
- 9:37to the moon now we're doing these missions I wanted it to be whenever those
- 9:41astronauts stepped off the craft or the, the,
- 9:44whatever you call it, the shuttle, when they landed yesterday.
- 9:48Them to get out, I wanted to be usher them right into front of the cameras and
- 9:53live TV, all of them, all four of them, put your hand on a Bible,
- 9:58put them on polygraphs, whether it's they are, they have religious convictions
- 10:02or they, they don't at all.
- 10:04People still are gonna squirm or not
- 10:06unless they're completely like psychopaths and CIA trained that they can lie
- 10:12on a polygraph and get get through it I just want it's like in this day and
- 10:17age we need to know what's what that means that might sound extreme I'm not
- 10:21trying to sound extreme but,
- 10:24Why couldn't we do something like that? Like right away, or even now, just all of them.
- 10:29And it's like, there's so many people that are smart people on both sides,
- 10:32the people that are skeptical of it and the people that are not.
- 10:35And I think of like the people that are like, that are not skeptical, that are smart.
- 10:39Because let me just use it as these two examples.
- 10:42Matt Walsh and Joe Rogan, both highly intelligent individuals.
- 10:48But both of them come to this topic and they look at it with different lenses,
- 10:54completely different lenses.
- 10:56Matt Walsh buys in completely that we went to the moon. Joe Rogan is highly skeptical that we did.
- 11:02Now this throws into the whole situation right now that we're going back.
- 11:07I'm all for it. I hope that we are. I hope there is something going on that
- 11:11we can maybe create stations up
- 11:13there and go out to the far reaches of the galaxy like Elon wants to do.
- 11:18But it's like, can we like hammer out and iron down what is truth and what's not?
- 11:23And it needs to be like in front
- 11:26of like live cameras for all the world to see
- 11:29i mean i mean forget the rest of the world i don't care about the rest of the
- 11:32world i care about the united states of america we only
- 11:35need to convince ourselves you know russia's got their own propaganda campaign
- 11:39that they're doing all the time anyways that they're probably faking a moon
- 11:42missions and doing all that stuff which they did i've seen videos that they
- 11:45did it themselves that they went to the moon we went to the moon it's like they're
- 11:49it's just like there's so much the unknown,
- 11:52that we don't even know what we don't know.
- 11:54And could the government, could our U.S. government just clarify, clear this up.
- 11:59But it's like it wants to keep us in the dark and just arguing amongst ourselves
- 12:04so that we're not looking up at the people that are pulling the strings.
- 12:09The puppeteers that are up there. It's just everything from the training,
- 12:13but in three dimension and absolutely unbelievable.
- 12:17This is incredible. Coffee Moonjoy.
- 12:19I definitely see all of the... Is there a little ass in this that are up there?
- 12:23Is that bad? Easily all in view. This is so awesome.
- 12:27We look like we're smiling at you, like a little Cheshire cat.
- 12:30All right, thank you, guys.
- 12:32I thought we just caught an ActiWatch sink. If I had my own, I'd sink it with you.
- 12:39Breaking... Have we yet to have any astronauts do a polygraph and just talk about this?
- 12:44Like, are they in front of a green screen when they're doing some of these things?
- 12:47Were they really up there?
- 12:49Were they really doing these things that are up? I mean, it just became so weird.
- 12:54Like after years, like we said that we went to the moon, but then we couldn't go back.
- 12:59We lost all the technology and just the pictures of like the spacecraft on the
- 13:03moon and it's being shot back up and people running around.
- 13:07It's like, was that done in a studio? Thank you.
- 13:10It's like, it's hard to know what is truth at this time.
- 13:13It seems like the, the, and our government is happy with us being in this state
- 13:19of delusion and not knowing what's what, not actually being able to talk it out.
- 13:23Steve Wasserman, I believe the,
- 13:24or Van Elsen, I believe the truth is much crazier than we can imagine.
- 13:28I, I agree with that. I think that it's, we are just on the very much surface of anything.
- 13:35I just think that it seemed like when Donald Trump got into office,
- 13:38he would be a person that would if the moon missions are fake
- 13:41why he would be the one to blow the lid or
- 13:45that we we put like people that are seem like
- 13:47they're down to earth people real people they don't
- 13:50just aren't just politicians that they're there and they're
- 13:53still not telling us the whole story i know that
- 13:56things are coming out about the aliens that that's going to be slow dripped
- 13:59out for people to see and hear about it just
- 14:02doesn't seem like it's happening quick enough and
- 14:06that this mission with going up to the moon this this this
- 14:09time it seems like there were so many things
- 14:12that videos that came out that just seemed fake and now
- 14:15we don't know what's what we can't really test of
- 14:18a real video to a fake video it because things
- 14:21can be just manipulated and edited and
- 14:24just created by ai so that it just it fakes
- 14:27us out these deep fakes it used to be of mission
- 14:31impossible that a deep fake was just like oh
- 14:33that that could never happen now it happens like
- 14:36every day we're like almost desensitized to
- 14:39it something i woke up to this morning i thought it was kind of odd i i was
- 14:43i was i was a little pumped i i don't know if you're familiar with wes huff
- 14:46he put out a video that almost got a question nasa and the the images that came
- 14:52out we're gonna look at this it's kind of it's kind of tongue-in-cheek funny
- 14:55but he let me down because i thought he was.
- 14:57Would i'll just i'll just let it play first so i along with everybody else you
- 15:01know excited about all these photos of the moon.
- 15:04NASA's putting all these crazy HD photos out of the moon. And listen,
- 15:09I don't want to be that guy.
- 15:10I'm the last person who wants to be that guy, but I'm looking.
- 15:14Nobody wants to be that guy. I don't want to be that guy either.
- 15:17And it's some of these photos and I just feel like we're being sold a bill of goods.
- 15:23I'm just looking at them and there's just some things that don't add up.
- 15:26For example, let me, let me show you this, right? So here we got the moon. Okay.
- 15:32That's great. Yeah. We're zooming in. Zooming into the moon and it's like,
- 15:36oh, I thought, I thought Wes Huff was going to be based.
- 15:39He is, he is. right here.
- 15:42Like this just seems, it seems too, too suspicious to me right there on the
- 15:49moon. It says, read your Bible.
- 15:51Wes, you let me down, man. I thought you were going to say something and he
- 15:56didn't, he didn't, he didn't say what I wanted him to say.
- 15:59It's not that I, it's not that I want it to be fake. I just want to know the
- 16:02truth. I don't buy the, that we went to the moon.
- 16:05I really don't. And I, I have people that I really respect and that are knowledgeable
- 16:09and And they adamantly say that we did, that it's just a lack of will that we
- 16:16have at this time in history. But now we are going back up there.
- 16:19So it doesn't seem like that lack of will is there anymore. It seems like it's
- 16:23just convenient that AI is out now and that deep fakes can happen so much easier.
- 16:29And when we get into it, it's like, why would we have lost that technology for
- 16:3450 years and now we suddenly got it back? Why did we like, you see,
- 16:38it would seem like when the internet came out, iPhones became a thing and just
- 16:42things became much more advanced.
- 16:44Why did it take up until this year that now we can suddenly do this?
- 16:50The NASA just seems like such a, a secret organization, secret society.
- 16:56Like you have to be initiated almost like you are under oath with them.
- 17:00They probably like just spanked their people there and swat them with,
- 17:03you know, boards or whatever so that they, thank you, sir.
- 17:07May I have another, another, another mother? Can thank you, sir. May I have another?
- 17:12I totally butchered that. But like, so you know what I'm saying?
- 17:15Like, it's like, are they, because once people are under oath and they're able
- 17:19to just say something, like they, they think that they're, they're not lying
- 17:23because they're abiding by their oath that they took.
- 17:26So it's like, are these astronauts that are there? Is that what's going on?
- 17:30At least for all this time in history, why, when we're seeing these astronauts up there,
- 17:36why can't they take the camera that they have the, and put it like,
- 17:39not just in one static position and then have them floating around where could
- 17:45you be on a green screen? Could you just be faking this?
- 17:48Could there be wires holding you up? I'm not saying that that necessarily is happening.
- 17:52I don't know. And I don't think any of us know, but I think there is just this,
- 17:56there's just this giggling happening from the people at the top that they,
- 18:00they, they're in on the joke.
- 18:02And I feel like a lot of people, regular people just want to know what's the truth.
- 18:07And then it becomes like, i'm not being patriotic i'm
- 18:10not being loving my country if i'm not thinking that the
- 18:13u.s sent people to the moon and and i
- 18:16i go to nick fuentes he's a guy he buys into
- 18:19the moon landings we went to the moon it's tough for
- 18:22me to really accept that like how could
- 18:24because he i i think it's just
- 18:27people just make a choice it's not that they're swayed one
- 18:30way or the other because if you were swayed by evidence and facts and just like
- 18:34looking at it just being unbiased you would think that those videos that we
- 18:40have and that we lost all the footage and all the videos that we do have were
- 18:45just taken of on a wall of a projection instead of the actual videos themselves.
- 18:50But then we lose all the technology. We lose all the footage.
- 18:53We had this thing that there's this Van Allen radiation belt that nobody can go through.
- 18:58There's just these times that it just seems so staged and produced just for people to just accept.
- 19:05And even the most recent And when we sent them up, the Artemis II.
- 19:10When it got shot up, which I mean, when I'm watching the video, I am pumped.
- 19:14I feel, I feel pumped. I bet I said plumped. I feel pumped that like in your
- 19:19adrenaline is going, we're just like, wow, that is so cool that man,
- 19:23people can create these things, these things to shoot people in the air.
- 19:26But then you're watching the video and it's like, it's going up,
- 19:29but it's turning. It's like not, it's not keep going straight up, but it's turning.
- 19:34And you could say it's just the rotation of the earth. I guess that's what they're
- 19:37going with. but it just, maybe go up a little bit further before you start turning.
- 19:42It just doesn't seem like, it doesn't seem real. It doesn't seem,
- 19:46and I'm just saying what I think.
- 19:48I would love to be put in a rocket and shot up to the moon and just see what's up there.
- 19:54See what's really going on. And it's like, I can take like Elon Musk.
- 19:59I highly respect him. And he says that
- 20:01he's dying on that hill that we
- 20:04went to the moon but i think he's not telling the truth i
- 20:07don't think he's telling i think he is just saying what he
- 20:10needs to say because if he gives if he pulls the
- 20:13rug out from under this organization that
- 20:17has a lot of power and that's going to give him ability to send his rockets
- 20:22up and and do all these things with spacex and all that if he blows the lid
- 20:26on that he's going to lose a lot of privilege and priority and people like actually
- 20:30letting him do things, the things that he is doing.
- 20:34But he's saying he wants to go to Mars, wants to go, man, it's,
- 20:37how can we not have a better footage?
- 20:40The things that don't just look like CGI.
- 20:43We need something. We need somebody that we can trust, that we can set in there.
- 20:47We need Donald Trump to get into space, the rocket.
- 20:49And we need to send him up and him to be live streaming it the whole time.
- 20:54Go live from the surface of the moon.
- 20:56That would be great. I would, why not?
- 20:59I think it was fake as well. I do as well.
- 21:02The most recent one, I don't know what's going on there. I don't know if that
- 21:06was real or if that was fake, but it also seems kind of fake as well.
- 21:09Space is made in a Hollywood basement.
- 21:12That's what I think as well. I mean, not necessarily space.
- 21:15I don't know about that, but these missions that are going up there,
- 21:18I'm curious about the satellites because say we got satellites up there.
- 21:22I mean, our family, we use Starlink, so there's gotta be something that they're
- 21:27sending up there, but it just, I get very curious about so many things.
- 21:31Like, I'm not, I'm open to anything, but I'm also like, I'm not going to buy
- 21:35anything just because I don't want, I want to go against the norm.
- 21:39I want to go against what we've been fed.
- 21:42Like, I have so many questions. I think about like the sun that's out there
- 21:45because people bring this up, you know, and people have said this,
- 21:48like the sun doesn't produce heat or like, not that it doesn't produce heat,
- 21:51but I've always like had questions about like, if we're getting heat from the sun,
- 21:55why is it when like, why are mountains,
- 21:57I know this sounds crazy but why are mountains like if you go to the top it
- 22:00gets colder as you go higher and higher
- 22:02is it because you're losing like heat from the the core of our earth because
- 22:07it seems like as you would go why tell me why am i really this dumb i have questions
- 22:11what do you actually think happens do you think we went to the moon in the 60s
- 22:15and the 70s or whatever all those missions that we we kept going.
- 22:19I know it's hard to really accept that that those happened.
- 22:22What's happening now, it just seems like it's even an easier deep deep fake
- 22:26that our government is pulling over us.
- 22:29I and we're actually going to take it. All right. So this is them when they're
- 22:33coming back and there's this.
- 22:35In point of light shows the vehicle as it enters the period of peak heating
- 22:40in the Earth's atmosphere.
- 22:41The first tug of gravity being felt by Integrity's astronauts.
- 22:45Why is it? Since their launch back on April 1st. So as they are entering back
- 22:49into the orbit of the Earth, so they say there's this, I guess there's this
- 22:54radiation belt or this plasma that they go out.
- 22:57There's a blackout that happens for like six minutes as they're coming back in.
- 23:01I guess because of the ozone layer, I don't know.
- 23:06It just seems like it seems too convenient. What actually happened?
- 23:10I don't care if it was real. It was real.
- 23:12But I'm just to the point where I want it to be. Like I said,
- 23:15I want to them to come out, be put on polygraphs, have their hands on the Bible and tell us.
- 23:22But it's just this question of some people just think that you're not being open.
- 23:28You're not being honest to what you think actually happened.
- 23:30You just that you're just a crazy person for asking this.
- 23:33And I think the government is just pitting us against each other. where
- 23:36it's like we just want the truth what actually happened what's actually going
- 23:39on the crew expected to experience up to 3.9 g's
- 23:43in this phase of re-entry that shot was wild to
- 23:46see orion there just a few pixels big
- 23:49blackout period so that's them coming down them in the
- 23:52space station it's not like everybody would have to be lying but
- 23:55it would it would seem like so and this is them coming down
- 23:58to earth watching to watch the initiation
- 24:01of the recovery of so you're telling me that
- 24:04this thing went up there and went around the moon
- 24:07and then came back out of the spacecraft onto a large
- 24:10inflatable raft just a short time it's
- 24:13so tough because i want to believe time we can go back i honestly want
- 24:16to believe it mertha where my colleague megan cruz is standing by to provide
- 24:21her situation report megan can you hear us i'm more open i'm very open for that
- 24:27to be real and i'm not saying like i'm much more open that the most recent ones
- 24:31that this going up and this coming down is real like something's going on.
- 24:36But even the videos that came out that they kept showing out it seemed
- 24:40like that it was just cgi and fake and then
- 24:43they're doing things like the ball did you see that the ball floating in the
- 24:47air and then it looks like it's on a green screen because you can see the words
- 24:51in it and it's like the people just doctor those videos it's like it's so hard
- 24:55to know what's real and even like just searching like so i'm just like if i'm
- 24:58like looking on here and just going to nasa's website NASA,
- 25:02Joe Rogan just did his most recent, he did another video with Bob Lazar.
- 25:08There's just so, I just think of the technology we have.
- 25:12It's like, could anybody really explain it? I think that we have been given it by aliens.
- 25:17We've been given it by something, some type of forces that are out there that
- 25:21we just have this right now.
- 25:22Something that has given humanity these things, these devices,
- 25:26this ability to create these things.
- 25:28Grow the fuck up. Americans are so naive. Yeah. Like, are you saying that you
- 25:32agree with moon landing? You don't? I don't know. I am very skeptical.
- 25:36I know. It's like, where do you do your research? You want to go to NASA,
- 25:39them to tell us the truth?
- 25:41And it's like Joe Rogan, he's had Elon Musk on his show multiple times.
- 25:46And you'll find this out.
- 25:48He's never even gone down that road of asking Elon Musk about whether we went
- 25:54to the moon or not. talking about this, talking it out.
- 25:57And Joe, he doesn't necessarily agree with those things happened.
- 26:01But it's him almost doing cover for his boy, his friend, Elon Musk,
- 26:07and just doesn't put him on the hot seat because he knows that Elon can't say things.
- 26:11And when he does say it, you can tell he's not telling the whole truth.
- 26:14They're just kind of just putting something out there just to meet what he can only say so much.
- 26:20And it's like if they're lying, it seems like they feel like they're telling the truth.
- 26:25They're doing a greater good because they're doing it for a different purpose
- 26:28than just telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
- 26:31It's like, at the end of the day, it's like, what do we really know?
- 26:33What do we actually, do we know anything?
- 26:36Because it just, the more you look into it, the more crazy you get.
- 26:38And that's exactly how it started the video with Tucker Carlson and AJ,
- 26:42them going through this and Tucker being asked about the moon landing.
- 26:46Did that actually happen? And Tucker's like, I went down this.
- 26:49I went down this along with, I spent a lot of time on it. And finally,
- 26:53at the end of the day, I was just like, I don't know.
- 26:55I, he gave the impression. No, he doesn't agree that what happened,
- 26:58but it's just another string of lies that our government, I mean,
- 27:02I, I love America, but our government's there.
- 27:05And it's like, there's so many things. Are they telling us just what we,
- 27:08what we need to know at this time? It's not divulging everything because it's not safe for us.
- 27:14NASA, never a straight answer. Exactly.
- 27:17100%. 100%. NASA is all about just, you've heard probably that it was formed
- 27:23and started by the Nazis, the Nazis operation paperclip.
- 27:26They came over here probably probably a masonic
- 27:29organization that is is there because when you get into
- 27:32like these secret societies that illuminati these
- 27:35organizations they they can lie
- 27:39there's they have no problem with lying because they're
- 27:42under oath and if you have if you have a greater oath to something you don't
- 27:47you feel like you can say whatever you want you can say like whatever you whatever's
- 27:52gonna like meet that time and period and agenda that the people listening to
- 27:56you are willing to accept. So I...
- 28:00I just have so many questions about nasa as as well but
- 28:03it's like where are you going to find the answers to it and the people that are
- 28:06put there it's like you're there's no one that can actually be pulled
- 28:09up because once you get up there like if i got pulled up to
- 28:11there it's like what i you can only go so far as
- 28:15as much as you're going to play play by
- 28:18the rules and if you don't play by the rules they're going
- 28:21to cut you down and throw you out and they
- 28:24they can take you out in an instant
- 28:27our government just that's why it's like our
- 28:30government it's it's so it's scary but
- 28:32it's so peaceful at the same time that they are always listening we
- 28:36always have somebody that's listening to us i really
- 28:39it's just but or they have the capability of listening
- 28:42to us and they probably have technology that can just things can
- 28:45get shot up to the the top whether it needs to be to actually
- 28:48look into what people are talking about but they're
- 28:51okay with people down below just let them eat
- 28:54cake they'll just be stupid or whatever ask dumb
- 28:57questions amongst yourselves but i just
- 29:00thought like donald trump going to the white house him being there i
- 29:02thought more stuff would come out i thought aliens would
- 29:06be unleashed we would be asked about like even like jd vance
- 29:09he was asked about aliens he just like i don't even have he's saying i don't
- 29:13even have the time to do that i don't have the time it's like make time and
- 29:18and he said he just thinks that they're demons i i don't think that they're.
- 29:22Demons i think that they're actual different beans that are out there but they
- 29:26are probably can be used for evil purposes.
- 29:30I i go down the route with what demons are is probably different than the orthodox position.
- 29:36I think that they are the Nephilim, the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim
- 29:41from long, long ago that have died. They don't have a soul.
- 29:45They're not fully human. They're almost this hybrid angelic being of human and angel.
- 29:50And so when they die, their soul can't go to heaven or hell.
- 29:55So it's just, it remains here and just wanders the earth and wants to embody
- 30:00things to be able to satiate that feeling in its flesh.
- 30:04So I don't, I don't agree with just the natural, like most people say about
- 30:08demons, that demons are, they're the aliens that they're, I think that it's just, it's different.
- 30:13There's probably so much more complexity than we even understand.
- 30:17But it's like when people get into these positions that they're able to see
- 30:21what's actually happening, what's painful about it?
- 30:24Which part are you? Cause you, I'm assuming you're saying this painful.
- 30:27You believe it all. Do you believe that it, that I'm okay with believing the
- 30:31most recent mission because we have the technology, but to believe that it's not going to happen.
- 30:34That the former missions happened, it just seems like they just,
- 30:38nobody could fact check them.
- 30:40There was like three channels and it's people just believed whatever they're told.
- 30:45And sometimes it's safe to believe whatever you're told.
- 30:48It's like safer for everybody around you. If we're all just,
- 30:51if we have this locked in, agreed upon mindset and worldview that we don't challenge
- 30:57the government that's above us about anything, that we just accept everything
- 31:01hook, line, and sinker. It's safe.
- 31:03You know, we can live in this fake believe world that we've been fed as opposed
- 31:07to why does it, why does it become a scary thing to allow people to ask questions about this?
- 31:13Cause I'm not a nutso person. I'm not a crazy person. I'm not like.
- 31:18But i am a person that will willingly say what i
- 31:21think and tell people if i think that this is crazy in
- 31:24itself i want to see what's actually going on because like it's
- 31:27so you can't even trust the things the videos that are coming
- 31:29out because it looks so manufactured and
- 31:33created and just they're just feeding this
- 31:37narrative and i don't want to say the whole flat earth thing and i i'm not i'm
- 31:40not necessarily a flat earther i'm not i have went down those rabbit trails
- 31:45where i just want to find out what's going on but it's like that's something
- 31:48that youtube and people that is one of the the conspiracies that like the people
- 31:52are then looked at as the most nutso.
- 31:55That people that believe in that but like that's something like i've heard i
- 31:59don't know if candace owns agrees with that or not there was a couple of the
- 32:01different ones that are just but you are horribly naive sorry i i'm naive about
- 32:06what i don't because i'm not the one that's buying it That's the thing.
- 32:11I don't believe you look at the space shuttles of the 60s. And when we're up
- 32:16there and that little thing that's being shot up, it looks like tinfoil.
- 32:19I mean, at least now it looks like legitimate rockets and they are legitimate rockets.
- 32:23But it's like, are they really going out of Earth's orbit?
- 32:27Are they really going out there and and going around the moon and doing that?
- 32:32It just doesn't seem it doesn't seem plausible. It doesn't seem real.
- 32:36I want to be a person that I want to go up there myself. we
- 32:39need to put something somebody we all elect donald trump
- 32:42needs to get in a rocket and go to the moon he needs
- 32:45to be in there and he needs to be live streaming it as
- 32:48it's happening put some more windows on it than just these little ones that
- 32:52just are that look like a fish bowl and that so when it when we show show earth
- 32:57it looks like that it's just the curvature of the earth and there might be all
- 33:00that but i just i i i question it i i i like if i i we have to deal with probabilities.
- 33:07We have to deal with like percentages. Are we swayed more one way or the other?
- 33:11Like if somebody asked me about like, it's like, I can only give a percentage of it.
- 33:15Nobody's a hundred percent sure on anything on, on, on you. There's always a
- 33:20level of doubt that is there.
- 33:22And it's like, totally, I totally disagree with the things that happened back
- 33:25in the 60s that we went to the moon.
- 33:27It was, it was used as something to, in a time that was a massive deception
- 33:33was happening for, to bring the country together, to put forth a perspective
- 33:38of the United States that we are the conquerors.
- 33:40We are faster at getting to the moon than other nations in this race to the
- 33:45moon that we're doing just to develop this level of patriotism.
- 33:49But now it's just like, that's like that balance beam.
- 33:52It's just like, you got to walk this fine line of whether I'm going to be patriotic,
- 33:55but I'm not, can I ask these questions?
- 33:58Can I get a better answer to it? And I'm not seeing it. And I just regular,
- 34:03it's like, we can't trust anything.
- 34:05And I think that is like, where we go into this AI age that more lies are being
- 34:09fed to us. It's so hard to know what is real.
- 34:12What is actually out there? What is actually happening?
- 34:15Oh my God, please stop. You're talking like a child. Your thinking is so embarrassing and primitive.
- 34:20About what? Do you think we went to the moon or not? Do you think we actually went to the moon?
- 34:27Honestly tell me the truth tell me what you think what do you believe do you
- 34:31actually think we went to the moon do you think we have landed on the moon when
- 34:35the astronaut that just went up there just said this is our first time going
- 34:39to the moon the first time like why did he think it's our first time when it
- 34:43when we've been there before supposedly but then and they're also.
- 34:47There's this radiation van allen radiation belt that we can't pass through but
- 34:51now we have passed through it no problem and then they're coming back in and
- 34:55there's this six minute delay this blackout as they're trying to come in and land.
- 34:58And we, I mean, it's just, it seems like they're just going up so far.
- 35:02They're going up so high.
- 35:03But to actually go around, I just think that a lot of it is this satanic delusion
- 35:09that Satan wants to feed us so that we don't question what we are fed by the people in charge.
- 35:17That they want to put forward this godless universe so that we are all insignificant creatures.
- 35:24We're all cosmic accidents. that there's a life everywhere, which there might
- 35:28be life out in this universe. I'm not opposed to that.
- 35:31I think that's true. I think there actually are aliens that are out there.
- 35:34But it gets to the point where it's just, Satan wants us to think that we're not special.
- 35:40He wants us to not think that we're special and that we're just one of a billion
- 35:44other galaxies and multiverses that are out there that are happening so that we don't look to God.
- 35:51It's just this delusion that Satan wants to feed down our throats.
- 35:56Of course we were mucking, we mucking did. I watched the entire Apollo 11 mission
- 36:01in 1969 and it was real. I've heard people say that.
- 36:04And I mean, people that I respect, but it's like you didn't have,
- 36:09we think we can fact check now what's happening.
- 36:13How could you have fact-checked then? It's like you would have just had to buy
- 36:16what they were telling you.
- 36:17But it just seemed like, if you've ever heard of Bart Sabrell,
- 36:21I'm sure a lot of people out there have.
- 36:22He's a person that, he's done documentary series about the moon missions,
- 36:26that it was just this CIA agenda pushing forward and controlling just the minds
- 36:31of a lot of people to get everybody to link arms together so that,
- 36:37to think that we are the superpower, that we're greater than everyone else.
- 36:41You know, this, this rush to the moon so we can defeat Russia.
- 36:45But I think it's awesome being an American, but I, it's just like,
- 36:49maybe they're doing, they're, they're feeding us with necessary lies,
- 36:52but maybe they're just lying to us at times.
- 36:55And it's hard to know the difference when we go through these things.
- 36:59I'm, I'm open to the most current missions being real, but I just need more.
- 37:05I need to hear more. And I don't, I don't like when Wes Huff just says,
- 37:08and he just makes fun of it.
- 37:10Maybe that shouldn't be where our attention is completely focused on,
- 37:13but I think people that are up at the top need to quell the thoughts that people
- 37:21have down here that we don't know what to believe.
- 37:25And it's like, they almost want us in this delusion down here that we don't
- 37:29actually question anything, that
- 37:31we're just going to buy whatever they're selling. I'm not, I'm really not.
- 37:35Your head is full of conspiracy nonsense. There are far more important issues to worry about,
- 37:39not least your mentally ill president i don't i okay
- 37:42i don't always talk about this i really don't i
- 37:45don't go into this talking about the moon all the time i do it every now and
- 37:48then and about these like conspiracies i i i i care more about what's the facts
- 37:53and what's really happening in life on earth but it does feel like we're being
- 37:57lied to in a lot of ways and i'm open to the the possibilities that are there are.
- 38:04That are out there that aren't just the main, a mainline mainstream things that
- 38:09they've indoctrinated us with. I'm open to whatever's real.
- 38:12I want the truth, but I think that they're doing a poor job of telling us the truth.
- 38:17I want to see these astronauts like talk about it and not just fib up and say,
- 38:21I, this is our first time going to the moon.
- 38:23Yo, Harry, but dog, you can leave anytime you want. No one's talking to me when you're here.
- 38:28I think, I thank you. Thank you. I think people are on both sides.
- 38:31Rational people are on both sides.
- 38:33I think just the regular natural person wants to know what's going on.
- 38:38What is going on? What is happening?
- 38:40Because this is just being swept under the radar. Did anybody even,
- 38:44until like the last few weeks, even know about this moon mission?
- 38:48Nobody was talking about it. And then we shoot them up there in April 1st,
- 38:52April Fool's Day. It's like they're just laughing at us.
- 38:56And they're just making it a game. They're making fun of us.
- 38:59They're just pointing the finger and laughing at us.
- 39:02It just seems so fake. And it seems like that these people are bought into it.
- 39:06I know I'm not a person. I think that one ethnicity is greater than the other,
- 39:10but it just seems like this conglomeration of they, they just put together to
- 39:15meet all the criteria of a woman, a black guy, a white, white people,
- 39:19two people, other white people.
- 39:20It's just to meet this guy, like this idea.
- 39:23And I'm not saying that they're not qualified. They're probably very qualified
- 39:28individuals that got put into that position, but it just seems like.
- 39:31Okay, like, are you are these the ones that are going
- 39:34to be going back up there to actually land on the moon and like
- 39:36artemis three or four it's like what's the
- 39:39are you just trying to be politically
- 39:42correct so you cross you check all the
- 39:45boxes you know and i'm not saying that
- 39:48steve it's called freedom of speech yes okay exactly 100
- 39:51it's the way that we're where
- 39:54we're at i just i think we should just like question things not buy
- 39:58everything that we're fed every day but it's there's no
- 40:01shame in thinking and just think because in
- 40:04the back of everybody's mind we're thinking these same things we're thinking
- 40:07them and if you're not it's like you're just
- 40:10buying what you're told you're just so i i
- 40:13love what you all are saying like this is this is the what
- 40:16what's going on in my mind i just don't think a lot of people are
- 40:19questioning it people are making some like little short
- 40:21videos there but it's like we don't even know what's real or
- 40:24not when we're watching something we don't know if that's actually the
- 40:27real thing that's happened or if it was just edited and manipulated it's
- 40:31hard to actually to tell the truth from air anymore
- 40:34and it just so it it fits so well that we set we're doing this now now that
- 40:39we have ai they can just much easier make it a studio thing a production as
- 40:45opposed to we really doing this like why can't we have them live streaming it
- 40:49as they're going up, if they have the capability,
- 40:52why can't when they're in the rocket, why aren't we seeing their faces and seeing
- 40:56them walk in and, and, and just have it on them. I like that.
- 41:00I guess it's never going to be, never going to be enough. It's,
- 41:02it's, it's tough until we're, we're going up there.
- 41:04Maybe this is the time period in, in, in our age that we're,
- 41:07we're just questioning these things.
- 41:09And then we're going to, where we're actually sending people up,
- 41:11you know, over and over and, and doing that. But it just seems so, it seems very fake.
- 41:17It seems fake. And the more that I even watch it more than I think about it
- 41:20and talk about it, it seems very fake. So I hope we get down to the bottom, a bottom to it.
- 41:24I really, I think that a lot of people that are, they're patriotic,
- 41:27patriotic Americans on both sides, whether you agree with it or not,
- 41:31but, uh, it's just, it's overall, it's getting, it's tough for me. It's very tough for me.
- 41:35I'm glad that I'm, I appreciate everybody's comments and, uh,
- 41:38what you all think, because I'm, I, I'm not settled one way or the other.
- 41:42I, I, I totally, I disagree like almost 99% that we did not previously go to
- 41:47the moon, but what's happening now, it could be real.
- 41:50I just, I just need a much more evidence. And I think instead of spending much
- 41:55more money to send them up there again, we need much more clarity that is actually happening.
- 42:01It's actually happening. But it's like, is this, they just want us to be in
- 42:04this mode of we don't know anything that it's more, it's just safer for the masses not to know.
- 42:10So you just keep saying we're naive and primitive, but don't say why.
- 42:15Exactly. Well, I think a lot of people like, I think this is a reasonable position.
- 42:20What is actually happening? We need to know.
- 42:23I'm not an enthusiast of conspiracy theory. I am so much less conspiracy theorist than I used to be.
- 42:28I used to, I loved this. I got up for it. I was excited about it.
- 42:34To be honest with you, Candace Owens, she kind of put a, like a very wet rag on that for me.
- 42:40She like extinguished that. Like I thought it was always fun.
- 42:44Her going down all these conspiracies, she's made things that not real.
- 42:48As opposed to being more isolated and caring about specific situations.
- 42:53Specific things that are happening instead of just blanketing everything
- 42:57and there's somebody there's something behind every bush everything's a
- 43:00lie over here a lie over here and i don't think that's the case
- 43:03i think there's a lot of truth and falsehood in a lot of different
- 43:06areas but just these moon missions they just do not feel real they do not feel
- 43:11real at all well you should because there are a lot of stuff on the planet right
- 43:14now yeah there's a there's so many things that are out there conspiracy theory
- 43:19is an american creation designed to generate genesis income.
- 43:23I mean, yeah, I mean, I agree with that. Like I'm, I have a sickness where I.
- 43:28I, I look at both points of view too much.
- 43:32I'm, I'm like almost madly reasonable because I hear both points of view way
- 43:37too much, way too much generate. Yes. I see what you're saying.
- 43:41It's a, it's, it's this way that people want to be a conspiracy theorist for,
- 43:46for that sake, as opposed to really trying to get to the truth of the matter.
- 43:50I care about getting to the truth of the matter.
- 43:52I don't care about just being talking nonsense and crazy stuff.
- 43:55I'm just going to say what I think this is, I don't believe everything is crazy
- 43:59and a conspiracy, but I think about these things.
- 44:01I think more should come out. More should sway us.
- 44:05More should, they should do more about that. Do more PR, do more actual PR to
- 44:09convince us that this is real, that we're not being lied to.
- 44:12I think they're just fine with us being lied to, which is like,
- 44:15we are the, the, just the chickens that are just squawking around and the farmers
- 44:19are just doing their own thing.
- 44:20They're coming around and then they're taking some of us and butchering us or doing whatever.
- 44:25And it's like, they're okay with us just being stupid little chickens down here.
- 44:28But it's like, you would think that the people that get up to the top,
- 44:31that they would care more about what is truth, what's going on.
- 44:34And they would break the seal. They would let things more slip down to us.
- 44:40And things are coming out about aliens, but it's like, I don't know.
- 44:44I feel like the aliens thing is just, it's becoming such a, why can't you just let it come out?
- 44:49Why can't you just release it? Why now are we getting to where we have to go?
- 44:53They've, they've bought the, whatever the domains, alien.gov and aliens.gov.
- 44:58They've purchased them or they have them now.
- 45:00Why do you got to do all this research now to figure out what's going on when
- 45:04you got 50 years of a hundred? I don't even know when it was like Roswell and all that.
- 45:08They got all this time. it should they can do it they're
- 45:11just slow rolling everything they slow
- 45:14roll everything because they they they consider
- 45:17us stupid they think that we're stupid and i
- 45:20just think that the people that are in government the people that are kind of pulling
- 45:23those strings they're just like puppets themselves and they're doing whoever
- 45:28the unseen people that are even higher and how do you get how you get that position
- 45:32i don't know i don't know how people get to that position or not Maybe it's
- 45:36just these billionaire Rockefellers or whatever that they just have massive like.
- 45:43Ungodly amounts of money that they're able to control everything.
- 45:46Like just random things that are just out there.
- 45:48Like the, like the fed that we have this thing that's called the fed.
- 45:52That's not the federal government, but it's the fed that they control our money.
- 45:56And it's just, it's just things that are just so like nonsensical and just crazy
- 46:00that, but everybody's just so used to it.
- 46:03And just, it's just normal. We just accept it.
- 46:06We just do our thing. We, we watch sports They entertain us.
- 46:11They send us to the circus so that we don't ask questions.
- 46:15But it's like they give us enough so that we don't rise up and do something.
- 46:19I'm far more concerned about the fakery and the corruption of the American government right now. Yeah.
- 46:24Because then they would have to release the technology they have.
- 46:27As long as we don't have it, they have the power over us all. Yes.
- 46:32AI just came out within the last two years or a few, I think two years,
- 46:36three years or whatever.
- 46:38And the release to the public. Like, what do they have that they haven't released?
- 46:43Because they're usually always like 10 to 15 years ahead of what is actually
- 46:47to the public, which we, the technology we can use.
- 46:50So it's like, what is coming down the pipe? Is it pipe or pike? I don't know.
- 46:53I've always questioned that as well. What is coming down the pike?
- 46:56Man, sometimes I ramble.
- 46:58I think I just get in a mode where I just ramble. But I honestly,
- 47:01I wanted to look at this and I mean, and I'm like, I'm going to,
- 47:03I'm going to do, I'm going to do my research.
- 47:05I'm going to figure those out. I'm going to figure it out. And I,
- 47:08I get on here and like, you go to, like I said, you go to NASA's website and what do they got?
- 47:13Give me more than this. It's like, how do you like, do I need to go to a library
- 47:17and do my research and like do some physics, quantum physics,
- 47:21physics, they got to be two to three years, 300 years ahead of us. You think so?
- 47:27Man, it's like, there's so much not so crazy stuff out there.
- 47:30It's like, it's like, they almost want us to be like lied to.
- 47:34They want us to, it's always they, it's always they.
- 47:37Like, who are they? And I want to find out who they are.
- 47:40And now, like, today we're, like, you know, the whole Iran war situation that's
- 47:44happening and figuring all that out, working through that.
- 47:47J.D. Vance is over there trying to make a peace deal with, I think they're in
- 47:50Pakistan, him and Jared Kushner, and who's the other guy? Or three of them.
- 47:56Hopefully they come back with something. It's like, is there, are we really at war?
- 48:01I mean, I'm sure we are. It comes down to free energy, and that would crumble all the king's pens.
- 48:07It does come down to, yes. you hear so many conspiracies
- 48:10about like people get things running on like Nikola Tesla
- 48:13Nikolai Tesla you know got like free energy and
- 48:16the the car that rode goes on
- 48:19water and and but it's like and but they never wanted to come out for anybody
- 48:24else they would never because it's like they want to control money they want
- 48:27to have it's it really is like money is one thing but ultimately it's power
- 48:31because I think they they have all the money they want they could ever want
- 48:35it's like money is not even a real thing. It's just a figment of our imagination.
- 48:38Numbers going up, numbers going down. It's just like what we trust it is, the currency of it.
- 48:44But really what matters is like, it's like tangible assets, what you physically
- 48:48have, what if, if the currency, you know, the, the dollar just tanks,
- 48:52but it's like what they really have is power, power.
- 48:57And I think this, this is where like, this is where it gets weird.
- 49:01This is where I know everybody goes to. It's the, the Jewish billionaires,
- 49:05people that are Jewish that are up there. They're the ones pulling the strings.
- 49:08And it's probably people that are not just Jewish, probably people that are
- 49:12of different nationalities.
- 49:13I think when you get to that top echelon, that they're not even caring about
- 49:16that. They're just, they just have everything they want.
- 49:19And they, once you have so much money, once you have so much that you,
- 49:23you couldn't need anything else that you, you start turning a little bit to
- 49:26evil things because the things that titillate you aren't as I'm going to go purchase another car.
- 49:32It gets kind of boring because you it's, and then it becomes a power thing.
- 49:37I just, I go to like George Soros, like him and like people like that,
- 49:41you know, the people that have just been born into this, they're born into this,
- 49:45this top, like top, top three or whatever for people or families or whatever
- 49:50that have come down and just have exert so much power and control because they're
- 49:54the ones that have so much wealth.
- 49:56And that's why I, what I feel all about this is so different than a lot of people.
- 50:01I think the American dominance of spreading Americanism around the world,
- 50:06not just, not for other countries to be us to take care of them necessarily.
- 50:10I think it's good for us to do good for other nations, but I think America needs
- 50:15to exert dominance over these countries and get resources from them.
- 50:19But everybody's so against it. Everybody's so up in arms against war and about
- 50:24us not going down that route, but it's, it becomes like, for what purpose?
- 50:28Why do you think that we're going to have more money and have more wealth ourselves
- 50:33personally, if we're not going to war in other countries, like,
- 50:37because so many people are against, that is the grift that is happening right
- 50:39now, that everybody is on this train,
- 50:42this popular train of they hate the wars in the Middle East.
- 50:48Roswell, they got so much technology. How many years has it been?
- 50:51What do you imagine they could have by now?
- 50:54The whole Roswell thing, that is very...
- 50:58Is that, was that like a land, like something that happened in New Mexico that
- 51:02there was a spacecraft there?
- 51:03I'm actually going to look it up. I've, cause I, it's interesting to me.
- 51:06I'm going to pull something up. Cause I'm very curious about this.
- 51:08So the Roswell incident debris found by a rancher in 1947 near Roswell,
- 51:12New Mexico has become the basis for UFO conspiracy theories.
- 51:16That's where like the whole Jeffrey Epstein thing was as well.
- 51:19He had, he had property over there or somewhere in New Mexico.
- 51:22I kept hearing that being thrown out there.
- 51:24That was what it was. That was what it was. Like, I, I was just thinking about this yesterday.
- 51:30It was a video that Candace Owens did a week ago. And she said,
- 51:33can't, uh, she said, Jeffrey Epstein is alive. I don't know if you know this
- 51:37Jeffrey Epstein is alive.
- 51:39I, I think he's alive. I think Jeffrey Epstein is alive.
- 51:43And that's not me just being crazy. Not so I just like, I guess two crafts crashed.
- 51:49So found in New Mexico, the United States military recovery,
- 51:53a crashed extraterrestrial spacecraft.
- 51:55And like, there's different things. I remember like with AGA Gentile,
- 51:58when he was getting in with like Joe Rogan and talking about this,
- 52:01there's certain areas that they have blocked off. You can't go. You can only go so far.
- 52:04It's like, when you get to that position, you're in government.
- 52:07When you, are you just sworn to secrecy?
- 52:10And it kind of is, you kind of are.
- 52:13They're they're under top secret clearance they
- 52:16can only put out what is the the formalized
- 52:20narrative that the the government decides that
- 52:23you can say and if you step outside of that you could get in
- 52:26big trouble and it's like once you get into that like i've just why can't people
- 52:31get up to that position and i kind of i know the answer it's like almost rhetorical
- 52:35at this point they get up to that position but then they don't blow the lid
- 52:39tell us it's like i guess it's like You're not a person that could get to that
- 52:43position if you would be willing to blow the lid.
- 52:45And it's like, they can probably sniff you out if you were.
- 52:48And I just think these, these NASA astronauts to get into those positions,
- 52:52they almost got to be willing to, to tout the party line, to not deviate whatsoever.
- 52:58Palm beach, Pete equals Epstein.
- 53:00Maybe. What does that mean? Epstein? I think he's alive.
- 53:04I, I definitely don't think he killed himself. If he did anything,
- 53:08he can either, I think he was killed or he's alive.
- 53:12You can't say anything, they will find it. I remember there was a couple,
- 53:15a while back, there used to be things on the internet, like when you're on YouTube,
- 53:18you could not say certain words.
- 53:20I remember that people always hinted at certain words that you could not say.
- 53:24I never got to what that word was.
- 53:27I had a guess what it was.
- 53:29Was it the word Mossad? Was that the word that people couldn't say,
- 53:32but now people say it all the time?
- 53:35About four years ago, I remember that. I remember Tim Pool, they would always
- 53:38hint at this one thing you can't say, because if you say that word,
- 53:42you'll immediately be pulled down.
- 53:43I don't remember what it was exactly, but I don't try to be a crazy conspiracy
- 53:48guy. I'm not that. I'm not necessarily that at all.
- 53:51I don't want to be that, but I do believe a lot of conspiracies.
- 53:54I like you, like when we go in, like even like the most recent,
- 53:58the Charlie Kirk thing, what happened there?
- 54:00I mean, when is it technically labeled a conspiracy or not? I think there was
- 54:03more going on there that's going to come out.
- 54:06But as of now, it probably seems like Tyler Robinson is the guy.
- 54:10He's the, probably the one that did, whether he was controlled and led to do
- 54:13that by our government or by something.
- 54:16I don't know. But, and I know people were just bringing up like,
- 54:19why is Trump not, why is he not trying to find out who the, the,
- 54:23the, the shooter at Butler, Pennsylvania was?
- 54:27Why are they not, why is he, why does he care to like, let it, just let it go.
- 54:30And really like either there was something going on and he was just threatened
- 54:35by that way by, you know, Israel or whatever. I don't, I don't necessarily think that.
- 54:40More than likely is he understands it was a huge moment
- 54:43that put him into the position of being president he
- 54:46doesn't necessarily have to think oh i'm so pissed
- 54:49off at this person and whoever it was that
- 54:52led him to that point that he could take a shot at me he probably
- 54:55like he's got bigger things to care about as opposed to
- 54:57trying to go back in to find out what exactly what was going on what exactly
- 55:03happened go look at palm beach pete he is epstein just google it quick i will
- 55:08so you're saying go look up palm beach pete oh is this a guy a guy that looks like epstein.
- 55:16La man palm beach pete looks just like
- 55:19jeffrey epstein he's totally leaning into the
- 55:22comparisons too often taking pictures in front of guys and writing captions
- 55:26about specifically not being epstein which seems to already further comparisons
- 55:30between the two he's just taking just almost like a oh okay lost lost a camera
- 55:35feed sometimes my camera overheats i don't know why it does that I'm going to
- 55:38go to the weird odd camera that if this does it.
- 55:41All right. That's usually my cue that to wrap it up. All right.
- 55:45So we'll leave it at that. Let me, I'm, I'm thank you.
- 55:48Uh, Steve Van Essen, Vanna, Vanna C.
- 55:50Thank you for all your comments and everybody else that is common in this video.
- 55:54Thank you for everybody that's being open-minded and willing to entertain these
- 55:59thoughts because I'm, I'm willing to entertain them myself.
- 56:02I want to get to the truth. I want to know what is truth. I want to know what's going on.
- 56:06So we'll leave it at that. I hope you have a great rest of your weekend and
- 56:09keep your minds open. See y'all.