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#195 – Did Monty Python and the Holy Grail age well? (w/ Liam Nelson) · Did That Age Well?

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that you want us to discuss. And without further ado, I am so
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excited to welcome my new friend from New York.
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It's Liam Nelson. Hey, it's me.
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world's lowest basement. I love this place.
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I I got to the headline here last a couple of nights ago.
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Yeah. And then the green room is a
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good what? Jacob, what do you, what would
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you say the height of this green room is 5/10/12?
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Yeah, 10. All right.
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We're making up numbers now though, 510.
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Gotcha, gotcha. Yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm a good 524.
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So it's not, but here we are. Thank you for having me.
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I'm so excited to be. Here and I and you know I.
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It feels fitting for the movie. I was kind of like, should we
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make him stand? Yeah.
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Podcast. And then I thought, no, no, no.
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Well, in order for me to speak, my airway doesn't can't be at a
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90° I think, so we gotta. Yeah.
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So we have to, yeah, it's kind of that's a workplace
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accommodation. Yeah.
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Yeah, OSHA. And I am disabled so.
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Yeah. So watch out, watch out, watch
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out. We're coming for you.
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You ever heard ADA? Yeah.
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Hello. OK, What do you have going on?
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I am here touring, so I I headlined in Denver a couple
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days ago, but I will be headlining in Kansas City this
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weekend. I don't know when this is going
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up, but this will. Probably go up in a couple of
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weeks. OK, so a few weeks ago I was in
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Kansas City. It was a really cool show.
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I just, I'm just bragging about how fun it was.
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I'll be in Chicago April 6th. I'll be headlining Zanies
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Chicago out there. I'll be doing Seattle March
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15th. The venue has not been
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determined yet, but there will be a show.
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I swear to God some venue will take me.
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And then I have known a few other headlining shows.
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Liam Nelson, comedy.com, you can see all my dates.
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And then I have a podcast for those who get it, where I talk
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with disabled comics and just disabled creatives about living
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with disability and just kind of all different, like experiences
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that are adjacent to disability, but like for a disabled
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audience. So if you're a disabled out
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there, yeah, I got a bunch of stuff for you.
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I'm going to say that this, this audience, we got a lot of them.
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Hey, movie watchers tend to be we We weren't out running
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around. We were inside monitoring,
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modifying. Sides safe.
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Safe and laughing. Yeah, yeah.
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Laughing the pain away. Exactly.
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Well, that's awesome. I love, I love having other
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podcasters on the show, love having comics on the show, you
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know, and, and you could say that comics are also people who
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get it, even though I'm not a stand up comic.
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That's sort of like. Being a comedian is sort of a
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disability. Yes, it really and I've always
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said that. At least socially, yes, you
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can't. You're stunted by the fact that
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you can't get through one conversation without saying
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something you wrote 2 days ago. Yeah, and saying, OK, I know
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this is in a bit that I wrote. OK, but wait.
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But is this funny? Yeah.
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Can you guys punch this up a little bit?
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Yeah. Could you help me?
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Or giving other people unsolicited punch UPS?
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Yes. Do you believe that I actually
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got into stand up to make friends after all my friends
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went off to college and boy, what was I thinking?
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Boy, what were you thinking? Here we are, just got carried
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away. OK, name them.
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Who are some of your favorite friends in comedy?
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Ty Colgate who I'm currently sharing a motel room with.
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I did my first ever show on his bar show.
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It was just fun. John Marcos Raisi's done a lot
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of great things for me. He's really fun touring with
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him. I'm his full time feature.
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Me and Ty both share that job. So fun.
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We're kind of three amigos style touring around a lot of time.
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OK, love that. Yeah.
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I mean, those are really dusty Slay Samarelle.
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Both people who like believed to me early on were very helpful.
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Lucy from Zany's Nashville. She's not a comic, but she's a
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Booker. She helped me out a lot, but I'd
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say that's about the list of people who've like really helped
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me out company. It's not a super long one, but.
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Yeah, and if you thought that you were supposed to be on that
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list and you weren't, I think that you should be a better
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friend. Yeah, file a file a file a
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report with my office. We'll get it amended if you, if
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you, you know, show me some documentation of you not being a
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Dick to me. Yeah, totally.
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But be be careful of ADA. Yeah, shut up.
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I'll. Make out there.
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I got all sorts of forms that I can fill out all.
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Right, you are not going to believe the amount.
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Of four, I am litigious as fuck, yeah.
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But guess what? The font dyslexic friendly.
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It's. True.
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It's Braille. It's all Braille.
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You'll you're going to feel my me sueing your ass, all right?
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Feel the just terror. Yeah.
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Love that. Very intimidating.
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Very intimidating. OK, so you got into comedy when
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your friends went to college? Yeah, I was working in video
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full time and then all my friends left for college because
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they, you know, had dreams and such.
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And I was like producing a show with this guy, Steve Whitmire,
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who was Kermit the Frog after Henson passed away.
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So it's just the two of us producing a show in my studio,
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like, for three years. Yeah.
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On page just like. But as in some some of my
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favorites I've ever worked on. Check it out, cave in on
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YouTube. It's just me and him.
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Do an Internet troll character call in show where we do
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elaborate, like Muppet like sketches in the middle where
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it's like musical numbers and all sorts of crazy shit.
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But yeah. So then that's when I got into
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comedy. And then I slowly but surely
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kind of got into it full time. So now it's now it's the full
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time gig, so. Wow, Yeah, that's awesome.
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From being an unpaid Muppet guy. Yeah, yeah, to being paid and.
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Wedding videographer slash 2 Chainz music video producer Did
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a lot of like rap videos for a minute there.
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Then Lotto's manager threw a beer bottle at my head and I was
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like, maybe I should quit this. I think they call that a multi
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high phase. Yeah, that's part of why my hair
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is gone, because I started losing my hair at 20 because I
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was so stressed out. That's not a lie.
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Yeah. Totally.
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Yeah, but you didn't. I mean, here's the thing, you
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wear it probably you don't have to wear like a helmet to dodge
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the. It's true.
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No, I didn't dodge it. It just didn't hit me.
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Thank God because I I did not move.
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I did not even flinch to try to dodge.
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I said actually, please hit me. Lobotomy, please.
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Oh, if they hit me, our insurance and I would not be
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working ever again, I said. But you know, it's all good.
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But. They wouldn't be here.
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Exactly and so I like that I'm I have to, you know, participate
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in life still it's. Absolutely.
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And, and, and we're more grateful than anyone.
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Yeah, I appreciate it. Yeah, of course.
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OK, so I'm guessing that like, I'm just gonna infer that your
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that your artistic style may have been informed by surrealist
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weird postmodern Holy Grail. Type not on Holy Grail
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specifically like not like this is not like oh things tight like
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like that. This movie specifically I think
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I saw over 100 times and then haven't seen since I was 12.
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So like between like 6 and like or maybe like 13.
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I maybe watch it like one more time on like a public gathering.
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But like, I don't I don't remember like seeking out to
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watch it again. Yeah, after that point in my
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life. But like before that there was I
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swear to God. I mean, my family would watch it
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together. My mom would quote it
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constantly. Like that is still good.
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Like she's definitely watching this.
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I definitely sent this to her because hey, mom, hey mom, we're
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watching your favorite movie. It's she will.
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It's a good 60% of her jokes still to this day are just
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reference just her quoting this movie because it's like, I mean
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it is iconically funny. Like it's I think out of all the
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things Monty Python put together, like this is like the
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thing that defines like them at their peak, you know, like them
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like doing it the best. And then I don't, I, I think
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just like it's so interesting as a kid for I found it funny for
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like a totally different set of reasons.
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And I find it funny now. Like I, I can still probably
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quote a good half the movie. And like when we brought up like
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doing this movie, I remember I was like, oh, I was like going
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through some of the like the scenes in my head and I was like
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getting new jokes in real time that I did not get before.
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Like there's a whole intro sequence where they talk about
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like, oh, the person doing this writing has been sacked.
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And like, I thought that was like a football player, like
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they someone ran in and tackled them.
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And then but that's just being British fired.
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And I thought it was a much higher stakes scenario.
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And I remember I would sit there and cackle because I'm like,
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these guys are just getting tackled left and right.
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And no, they're just getting fired.
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Oh my God, did you imagine like the the writers as football
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players? Or was it like football players
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came in out of nowhere? No, it was like, I imagine there
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was a guy doing this job and then another guy who wanted the
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job came into the studio furiously angry, wrestled that
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man to the ground, hooked to helm.
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And then another guy came in and just like 1 after one, just a
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pile of bodies on the floor as they like clamor over each other
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trying to like be the one typing this intro dialogue.
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Incredible So. That's.
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I I honestly miss when I thought it was that because I was like,
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man, that was really. That was way funny.
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I remember thinking that was like a really like, one of my
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favorite parts of the movie was like reading that.
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And so I'm like, oh, these guys are just beating each other up
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and we're just reading about it. Like, yeah, you're like there's
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a dogpile in. I know that's so.
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Funny, I think that just shows you how vivid my imagination it
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was and like how little I read because that I was like, oh wow,
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reading's actually kind of cool when it's about people beating
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each other up it. Absolutely is because and you
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know what reading the like reading the intro credits for
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anything is reading. Yeah, you know, and if you have
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and if you have closed captions on movies, that's reading.
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Yeah, I I've read the back of several books and as an
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elementary schooler, I was trained to not read because I
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did like the the advanced reading points system.
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Oh yeah. And so I would just skim books
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and then do well enough on the test to get the points.
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So I read Gone with the Wind in 3rd grade.
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God read you got 72 points for it.
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Didn't. I don't remember shit that
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happens in that. That is wild.
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And is that, is that real? What, what you just said?
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Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that actually. Happened.
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Oh yeah I read it in 3rd grade and I I got for some reason they
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had that in an elementary school library.
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Why are even 11 year olds don't need to be?
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Yeah, they don't need to read that.
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They don't need to understand like poverty.
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Yeah, if they if they don't know it.
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Yeah, it's it's it's very high level.
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I don't know. It was, it was.
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Well, that's. So funny.
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Yeah, so, but I my Python I sat through full way every time so.
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You know what is is interesting, you know, I'm re watching
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Sopranos right now and, you know, in in any mob or crime
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film being sacked is being killed.
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Yeah, yeah. So, you know, the stakes could
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have been high, low, anything in between.
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And I'm glad that as a child, your imagination went to just
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football. Tacos.
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Yeah, I had not watched Sopranos yet.
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Hadn't even skimmed it. That was a no, no, no, yeah, I
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was, I was too busy watching Monty Python loop, which I think
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there's definitely some moments in there.
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I'm like drop on reflection, like maybe those were.
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I mean, I think they definitely flew over my head, but there was
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some moments weren't the nuns like super horny?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember.
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I remember that. I mean, my mom was always like,
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sex is fine, violence is bad, but I'm like, there's a lot of
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violence in that one too. Yeah.
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I watch a rabbit chew a man's neck open like and I was like,
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yeah, what a cute little Bunny. Get that guy, get him on.
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His lips so stupid. Oh yeah, the black nugget that
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was. Oh my God.
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The Black Knight. Amazing.
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But I feel like the scratch, I feel like the violence in this
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movie is so stupid. Yeah, that it is almost.
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I mean, I don't know. I don't have kids, so I have No,
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I have had no idea. I think my parents were just
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willing to make like compromises on that if they liked the movie
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enough. Totally.
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They're like, well, we're all gonna watch.
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That I also remember watching episodes of the Chappelle Show
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with my dad. That sounds like yeah, they
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should be watching this. Probably not.
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But you know, it was fine. Because people are parents
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doesn't mean that they have to give up what they like.
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Yeah, exactly. I think they should watch
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whatever they want. It's.
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Fine. Yeah, they're fine.
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They're gonna learn eventually. Yeah, yes, no, it was good.
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I I think my thought was like, it's I, I only attribute.
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I don't remember ever having like nightmares from it.
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I remember only like thinking parts of it were really, really
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fun. Like the whole the bit of them
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running and never getting closer.
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One of the best of all time. Just like the he's like running
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through the distance and he just keeps starting over.
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And haven't we all? And then all of a sudden, he's
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there. No explanation.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think my favorite part of this
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movie is that it all, despite the fact that I did just say off
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air that it's not exactly a plot.
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It's just like a bunch of scenes that eventually do come
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together. Hi, Winnie.
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But there is a full circle moment where in the beginning
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when they go to the castle and the French guy is like he says I
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spit at you and he says that they already have a whole like a
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rail. He's like, why would I want one?
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I have one or like I can't remember exactly.
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We only have one, yeah. And that somehow doesn't
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register. Bit at you a second time.
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Is so stupid. There'll be a lot of bad accents
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in this one folks. Just a heads up.
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Well. It's not like the accents that
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they had were good, no. That's the point.
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But that's why they were fun to do, because they were doing them
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bad so we could do them bad because that's what they were
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doing. Yeah, exactly.
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We could all just kind of be stupid.
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Yeah, because they were being stupid.
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It was good. But stupid in a when I say
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stupid, I mean it in like, such a loving way.
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Yeah, I really mean it in like as a compliment.
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Yeah, and then that's the scene where they launched the farm
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animals at them afterwards, right?
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Right. Yeah, they want the cow just
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comes in like crushes the what is it called, the guy with
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coconuts. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the horse.
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The horse. The man, the man horse.
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Yeah, I feel like the. That bit too, Oh my God, I
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remember the first time I saw that.
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That's a six year old who's like, I thought he was on a
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horse and he's just a guy. Can you believe?
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It that was like prime 6 year old like that.
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I think that's what got me to rewatch it.
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I was like, is that the one with the guys with the coconuts?
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I was like, hell yeah. You're like, I could pretend to
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be a horse. Yeah.
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My sister this morning sent me a video of my niece on one of
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those, like, you know, like the stick horses that kids play
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with. And she was kind of like,
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galloping around in the front and I and I thought, that's
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Monty Python. Yeah.
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Someone someone clank some coconuts.
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Someone get that girl a coconut boy.
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Now someone get her Squire or some coconut she.
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Needs. She needs it yeah.
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I was like, there are some things that are truly timeless.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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I think that that is what makes this movie so timeless is that
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it's all bad, surreal practical effects.
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And it's also, I think they're related to the King Arthur
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story, like make it ties it into like a cultural touchstone to
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where like people get what they're making fun of because
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everyone is vaguely aware of like the King Arthur story and
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like lore, especially I imagine in the UK more so yeah.
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But yeah, it's like it's all the different, but like the nature
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of it being like all these little scenes make it so
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interesting to watch the whole time.
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Like even if you don't love the one that they're doing right
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now, give it 3 minutes and they're you'll be on doing a
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totally different bit in a totally different place with
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totally different characters like.
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Totally. I think like it's interesting.
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I often have like criticisms of movies that feel like they
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should be 3 to 5 minute sketches that have been extended into a
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feature film, but this one doesn't feel like that because
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each scene actually is its own unique sketch.
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You know what I'm saying? It's like they've.
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But they do tie in because the the King Arthur character comes
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through and it's like experiences the the craziness of
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all these different scenarios, like either after that happened
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or while they're happening. Yeah, totally.
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And I love, I love goofy anachronism.
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Like I love the I love the British police.
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Yeah, I love. Oh yeah, I totally forgot about
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that whole like how the cops arrest them at the end.
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I forgot about that. Oh my God, yeah.
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I had honestly forgotten how this movie ended cuz it's cuz it
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had been several years since I'd seen it.
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And the fact that it, it ends with the basically it's like a
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paparazzi shot of them getting arrested.
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And then and then the cop or whoever is with them like hits
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the camera and then it's over and the screen goes black back
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and they play the music for like 5 full minutes.
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And we were, I was watching it with some friends last night and
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we were all sitting there and for like a full 20 seconds just
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kind of waiting for the next thing to happen.
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And then someone was like, wait, I think that that is the end of
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the movie. And then I was like, Oh yeah, I
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forgot that. But it was so funny.
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I skipped ahead like 20 seconds and it was still playing the
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same song. And I laughed and laughed and
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laughed. Yeah, I I think that's
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definitely early on me watching that movie.
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That's where it kind of lost me. I think when it like broke the
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4th wall, I was like, all right, all the fun medieval stuff is
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done. I'm out of here.
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Like I don't, I don't give a shit about them.
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Like transcending like the barrier of comedy right now.
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I don't need that. I just want more guys getting
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their arm cut off and being fine with it.
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I wore guys on stilts saying niche a bunch of times.
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I love those guys one night to say me or icky icky.
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The nights who formally until recently said me, yeah, yeah.
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I feel like that part was what what kids around me most often
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quoted. Yeah.
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Do you think that this movie was made for like.
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I mean, obviously it's not like a children's movie.
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Do you? But do you think it was like
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made for kids, made for adults or?
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It's definitely the most kid friendly Monty Python thing they
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ever made because like I remember loving this movie,
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watching Life of Brian being like what the fuck is this?
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I was like, I was like, dude, the vibes here are so much worse
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than money 5 the Holy Grail. Everything else they make is a
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lot darker if you like. And this ones the most like
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whimsical yeah, thing that they do.
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Like even the sketch were like, I mean, it's like whimsically
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dark, but the sketch were like the guy asked for one more like
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he eats everything at the restaurant and then I throw like
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one more thin men that explodes into organs.
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Like I remember I watched that. My mom was like, oh, you like
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Holy Grail, let me show you this sketch.
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And then she remembered like as he was about to explode.
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That was then I'm like, I'm like, oh, like 7, see the sketch
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and then but we still like anytime we get full of
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restaurants, it's like, oh, just a whiff our thing here.
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And then and then you explode. Yeah, exactly.
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Organs. Yeah, totally.
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It was really more of a cautionary tale, the lot.
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No. I'm telling you, like my brain.
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I swear to God, I think I would be a much smarter person if I
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had never consumed any Monty Python because of the amount of
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brain space that is just permanently occupied with quotes
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from this film. Yeah, there's not really room
19:31
for much else at all. No, no, not at all.
19:33
I there is something I read on the Wikipedia page for this
19:38
movie about there was going to be nudity and then they decided
19:42
not to. You're I feel like maybe that
19:45
would have been controversial with your mom, but maybe not.
19:47
You said she was fine. She was she.
19:48
Was like sexed up is fine by. She she told me and my friend to
19:52
watch 16 candles. Oh, my sleepover one time and
19:57
then I and then there's a nude scene and we both were like we
20:00
ran out of the room because we were doing we were at his house
20:03
like very strict parrots. So we like we like left the room
20:07
and like got his mom to turn it off for us.
20:11
He was a freak out like no, no, no, no please.
20:13
It wasn't us. Oh my God, that.
20:18
That is so honestly so sweet. So funny.
20:21
So sweet. Yeah.
20:23
It was more like, I didn't care that we were seeing it.
20:25
I was just like, oh, I really hope no one sees us seeing it
20:27
right now. Totally.
20:28
You're like. Also, I don't really want to do
20:30
this with my friend. I'll look at I'll look at a
20:33
naked woman by myself on my computer, thank you very much.
20:36
Yeah, like privacy of my own 9 year old.
20:38
Yeah, totally. Like any respectful 9 year old
20:41
OK, I did find, I did find this little anecdote from oh, this
20:47
was from they they talked about it on the DVD the oh, the quest
20:52
for the Holy Grail. OK, so castle anthrax was shark
20:56
in one part of Dune where the costume designer advised against
21:00
nudity instead dressing the girls in shifts.
21:03
So I think that. Oh, so the nuns were initially
21:06
supposed to be, like, naked? Yeah, yeah, that scene
21:10
definitely felt like it was like supposed to be even hornier.
21:12
And they like, got it. Toned it down a little bit, and
21:15
I'm glad they did because if it was rated R, it would have been
21:19
like, way fewer people would have seen it.
21:22
Yeah. It would have been less
21:23
accessible to people. I'm not saying, I'm not saying
21:26
like, you know, cover those women up.
21:28
Yeah, you know. Whatever.
21:29
But like, you know. Like, like you don't.
21:32
They don't need to be naked. In that scene, it's horny
21:34
enough. Like we get, we got it.
21:36
Like they're horned up. Like that's fine.
21:38
I get it. They're in.
21:39
They're in like silky robes. It's not like that comes across
21:42
like, don't worry, you don't have to be more obvious about
21:46
it. Yeah.
21:47
Oh, there's one criticism I have a Holy Grail a little too subtle
21:50
for. Me not horny enough?
21:53
Really, it really, really makes you think you're.
21:56
Wondering what's the subtext here?
21:58
Yeah, what are they not telling? Us when that guy launched that
22:01
cow with that guy. I wonder what that meant.
22:03
What was the symbolism of the cow, you know, versus the versus
22:07
the spit versus the versus the shit later?
22:10
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Really deep. I read that this was This was
22:20
financed by Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Jethro Tull, Co producer
22:26
Mike White, a cricket team called the Heartaches, founded
22:30
by lyricist Tim Wright. And a Suicide Squad funding team
22:35
is this. And three record companies,
22:37
Island Records, Chrysalis Records and Charisma Records,
22:40
the record that label that had released Python's early comedy
22:45
albums OK and then. But those investors also
22:48
received part of the proceeds from the 2005 musical Spam A
22:52
lot. So they're laughing all the way
22:53
that they. Yeah, they're getting.
22:54
It you know. They should still around.
22:56
Yeah, they just, they knew that no studio would fund the film
23:01
and the rock stars saw it as a good tax write off because the
23:05
top rate of UK income tax was as high as 90% at the time.
23:09
That that does make sense. That film does have the vibe of
23:13
like the people who were the most in charge are drugged out
23:17
rock stars. Like the guy who's in charge of
23:20
anger. Everyone like stays in line is
23:22
also on like heroin. He said.
23:25
Wouldn't it be funny if yeah? Say, what if we just, you know,
23:29
that guy we like a lot? What if we just gave them a
23:33
castle, let them kind of do whatever?
23:37
No, that's great. I mean, I'm happy for him.
23:39
That's how you know something's gonna be good.
23:41
When a weird group comes together, it's either good or a
23:44
psyop, yeah. Exactly, exactly.
23:47
It's like either you're producing Pink Floyd's agenda,
23:52
yeah, or they're saying make whatever weird shit you.
23:54
People do love to make a theory about Pink Floyd, about it them
23:57
having like the devil in their music, so maybe.
24:00
And honestly, I think that it. Corrupted me this movie.
24:03
This movie, this movie definitely has something
24:05
demonic, and I mean that in a good way.
24:07
Well, the Bunny, the Bunny the Bunny for sure.
24:10
Yeah, definitely. And there is a lot of, like,
24:12
lore about rabbits, bunnies being being like, satanic, like,
24:17
they're kind of like cursed. Yeah, kind of like demon, demon
24:21
creatures. Same with goats, right?
24:24
It's like, yeah, yeah, goats. The thing is with the eyes on
24:26
the side of their face. Yeah, pray.
24:28
Yeah, so. Like, you know, pray do.
24:30
You want to be a good person? Kill something.
24:32
All right. OK, Kill and eat something else.
24:34
Yeah, come on. If you want us to like you, I
24:37
mean, I guess sheep are fine. Yeah, sheep are fine.
24:40
Lambs are allowed, yeah. They're kind of cute.
24:44
I guess lambs are good, sheep are are like you're too, you're
24:47
a follower, which I guess is good for some religions.
24:50
And then goat is always bad because either devil or eats
24:55
your clothes. It's true.
24:57
Yeah. Eats everything.
24:58
Yeah. Yeah.
24:59
There is that song by 90s band. Well, still active.
25:03
Cake Sheep go to having goats go to hell.
25:07
And I kind of take that in Yemen, you know, let's see what
25:11
else, what other fun facts can I tell you about the filming of
25:15
this? I mean, of course it's low
25:17
budget. Didn't have to tell you that.
25:19
But wait, what the? CGI was so good though.
25:24
But I really thought that was a horse.
25:28
I think I have a theory that studios that don't really want
25:34
to finance films the way that they should use Monty Python as
25:39
an example of like, you don't really need money, you can do
25:42
anything. That's just a theory I have.
25:44
Yeah, as someone who was requesting and funding from a
25:47
lot of studios for a while, yeah.
25:49
Now they're like, oh, but can you just be a genius and with
25:52
nothing? And I was like, no, actually.
25:54
No, I'm sorry, I'm not making swingers.
25:56
I'm not making. I'm not making Monty Python.
25:59
Like just do something you can shoot in your house.
26:01
And I'm like, I don't why would I do that?
26:02
I've. Seen where I live?
26:04
Yeah, I don't want to. It's not a cast.
26:06
My life is not film worthy. Yeah, that's that's cool that
26:12
they were able to like, make some because it does feel very
26:16
grand. You know, it's like it does,
26:18
even though a lot of like the transitions are very like old
26:21
school kind of hams, like ham festive, a lot of like the sets,
26:25
you know, you're never like, oh, that's, you know, an obvious set
26:30
or something. Like some of the castle scenes
26:31
are like big and cool, you know? They really do and like the the
26:34
big landscapes and the mountains behind them.
26:37
They do a good job with it. Yeah.
26:38
I mean, I imagine they probably shot those on location right in
26:40
the lands. Or something like that.
26:41
Yeah, I think that they did they Yeah, they they shot the the
26:48
rabbit scene at the the Tom Nandashian mine OK, a hamlet
26:55
southwest of a place I can't pronounce in Scotland.
27:02
Yeah, I think they've got. See, this is one of those like,
27:06
you know how people do like the Lord of the Rings tours.
27:08
I would do a Monty Python Montreal location tour in
27:12
Scotland or. Wherever you look, Oh my God,
27:14
you absolutely should. I'd be like, oh, that's where
27:16
the number of the counting was decided.
27:19
Oh it's and it's 3. I mean, since the Holy Hand
27:22
Grenade was thrown right there, that's incredible.
27:25
And that's where the rabbit ate that guy's neck.
27:27
Yeah, and history was made. Let's see.
27:31
Oh, I'm so sorry to tell you, but at the start of the tale of
27:34
Sir Robin, there's a slow I know, I'm so sorry.
27:38
There's a slow camera zoom on a rocky scenery, the dark forest
27:42
of Ewing. That's a still photograph of the
27:45
gorge at Mount Buffalo National Park in Victoria, Australia.
27:49
I know. Isn't that fucking?
27:50
Well, the movies ruined. I know.
27:53
I thought it was all real. I know.
27:55
And now, now we've really just ruined it on.
27:59
Illusion broken. You really had to.
28:01
I know, I know that it was hard to do.
28:03
You not actually like that? Yeah, Come on.
28:07
I can't believe that I've asked you to suspend your disbelief.
28:10
But wait. But wait.
28:12
But wait. No, it was mostly shot on
28:15
vacation in Scotland. Okay, all right, that's great.
28:17
It's. Just that opening.
28:18
Scene I'll go to. School for us, particularly
28:21
around Dune, Castle Glencoe and Castle Stalker.
28:26
I I bet I could convince my fiance to go there and she could
28:28
do the Weathering Heights tour. I could do the do this one a.
28:32
Little something for everybody. I do love though, that at any
28:35
point that it becomes like too much to design the set, they
28:39
just switch to the animation. Yeah, yeah, I love that.
28:42
I love a little mixed medium. Like, you know, we, you
28:46
obviously know that we couldn't afford to to create this Yeah in
28:51
live action. So we're just gonna pivot?
28:54
Yeah, it's, it's a good, I love, I love just seeing someone make
28:57
the most out of what they can do.
28:59
Like it's those things are fun too.
29:01
They're they're like changes of pace from the rest of the movie
29:04
too. I agree, yeah.
29:05
And it's sort of like you said, if there's something that you're
29:07
sort of getting bored of, like in 3 minutes, it's going to
29:09
change. So they kind of like.
29:11
In 3 minutes a guy's going to show up and stabbed literally
29:13
everyone and then the scene will be over.
29:18
Everyone, including including the the woman who was to be wed.
29:22
But did she get stabbed? No, no, it was her.
29:25
It was her. Her dad.
29:29
Her dad, Yeah. Everyone gets stabbed except for
29:31
her up there and then the guards are supposed to you stay here.
29:35
Make sure that he doesn't leave. That I love.
29:39
I love a joke that goes as long. As and they and they do that
29:43
what four or five times in the movie where like it's like.
29:47
The counting to three the. Nights you saying me is like
29:51
they keep doing it like you say I'll do it to that's you again.
29:56
The strawberry, the. French people are just one
29:59
recurring bit. Totally.
30:01
It's just so many like cut the music, they just are arguing for
30:05
like 10 minutes straight. Yeah, exactly.
30:07
It's fun. Yeah, it's fun and it I think
30:10
that it inspires all of us to not let a joke die.
30:13
Just keep going. Yeah, it does feel a little bit
30:16
like there's moments that feel kind of curvier enthusiasm
30:19
almost where it's like it's like a medieval curve where he's just
30:22
like, well, fuck, like a stumble into a unfortunate situation
30:26
again. Me again.
30:28
And it just so happens that he's King Arthur the whole time, you
30:30
know, like instead of fucking Larry David.
30:32
Yeah, He's just like, oh, man, Can you believe these guys, man?
30:37
I'm always getting myself into some sort of trouble.
30:43
It's like absurdist humor, but like, as if we were all living
30:46
in this King Arthur world. Like, that's the thing that's
30:48
fun. Is that it?
30:50
The suspension of disbelief is so easy to buy into and it's so
30:53
easy to to feel like invested in this world.
30:58
Yeah. And yeah.
30:59
I think the early establishing stuff is good to bring out.
31:02
The dead scene is fun, Yeah. The guys who hit themselves in
31:05
the head with the board, yeah. There's just so many little
31:08
things that you see early on that kind of get you into when
31:11
he's arguing with the person who's digging in the dirt.
31:14
Well, like, it's like, who? Who are you?
31:17
I'm the king. King of what?
31:19
King of what? The king of the Britons like.
31:21
He's like, who are the Britons? Well, all of us you are.
31:26
Do you feel like modern audiences are familiar with King
31:30
Arthur? Like if this was made today,
31:32
would people get it? Hey, I would hope so like am I
31:35
that old to where like my childhood is not mirror like a a
31:39
modern audience? I don't know.
31:40
I don't. Know how old are you?
31:41
26 OK. Well, I don't know, I guess
31:44
listeners weigh in. Yeah, hey, hey, you 17 year olds
31:47
out there watching this, Let me know if you know who King Arthur
31:51
is. If your if your parents really
31:52
love this podcast and you're. Sucking batch is.
31:57
Then please let us know. I would think so, especially in
32:02
in the UK, but it's almost like I don't know.
32:06
It's not really that necessary to be super familiar with King
32:10
Arthur. Yeah, you could think they've
32:11
just like, made those all up and still find them funny, I think.
32:14
Yeah, I think so. I think it's funnier when you
32:17
understand the source material and you understand what they're
32:20
making fun of. But on its own, I think it works
32:23
for sure. OK, let's see.
32:26
What else should we talk about? What are some of your favorite
32:29
scenes we've talked about? I mean the.
32:31
Rabbit one of course of the house iconic the Knights who say
32:34
me the black knight where he gets his arms cut off Yeah it I
32:38
I got beat up harder one time when I was getting bullied
32:43
because I they hit me and I said tis just a scratch I've been
32:49
then they were much meaner to me after that it was yeah it was
32:53
tough but that seems great when he's just like a stump on the
32:57
ground like I'll bite you I'll. Bite.
33:02
You I'm trying to think what other ones I I remember.
33:04
I particularly didn't love the one where the guy comes in and
33:07
stabs everyone because I felt bad for all the people.
33:09
Who could? Innocent people.
33:10
I was a very like an empathetic kid, so I definitely felt bad
33:13
for like the innocent people who got like murdered in this movie.
33:18
A lot of the, a lot of the nights, there were very few of
33:20
them left by the end. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
33:23
I'm trying to think of what other scenes I really liked.
33:27
What about the bridge scene? How do you feel about the bridge
33:29
scene? It's where like they have to
33:31
answer 3 questions and then if they get the question wrong then
33:36
they get launched into like a like a Canyon.
33:40
Yeah, the the guy with the horns.
33:43
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I like that one.
33:44
Yeah, he, he's like asking some people easy questions because
33:49
some of them are questions. He's like, what's your favorite
33:51
color? And then one guy says blue, but
33:54
he didn't really mean blue. And he?
33:55
Didn't want favorite color. What is your quest?
34:01
Yeah. And then and then he asked the
34:02
question about velocity with swallow.
34:05
Yeah. What is the air velocity of an
34:08
unladen swallow? Yeah.
34:10
And, and King Arthur says that's this kind of stuff that you need
34:13
to know when you're a king. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
34:16
There's no piece of knowledge that should go unknown.
34:20
If you're if you're the king, you gotta know it all, yeah?
34:22
Yeah doesn't blue no clear. It's like one guy gets lost cuz
34:27
he doesn't post it for a. Color blue.
34:29
No. Clear.
34:30
Yeah. One time.
34:34
Not one time. Several times when I was playing
34:37
the game. Mash.
34:38
Do you, were you familiar with MASH?
34:40
Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK.
34:40
So. So we would have.
34:43
Millennials. I knew MASH.
34:44
You know them. OK, great.
34:46
You're familiar with millennials culture. 2IN museums.
34:48
OK, I know. Yeah.
34:49
Totally. I've studied your people's
34:51
ancient culture. Antiques Rd. show So in our
34:54
culture, we would play MASH and we would have a category of
34:58
wedding dress color. And if you were the one who was
35:03
like writing things down for MASH, like your friend is
35:05
telling you what they want, you also got to be evil and include
35:11
one of your own. So you would like include if it
35:14
was like for who you're going to marry, you would put down like
35:16
the ugliest fuck that you know, or you would put down like, you
35:19
know, for for like number of kids that you'll have.
35:23
It was like 25, that kind of thing.
35:26
And for wedding dress color, I always wrote down clear.
35:32
Hell yeah, just nude. Yeah, totally.
35:34
Just a just a clear dress. Hell yeah, your raincoat.
35:37
Yeah, exactly. So for some people, clear is
35:40
their favorite color ID. Look, it was your favorite color
35:43
to hurt your friend's life with. Yeah.
35:46
It ruined your friend's wedding. Yeah.
35:48
Totally. Yeah.
35:48
Is that if you're white and you wear a clear dress, does that
35:51
count as wearing white to a wedding?
35:53
I I guess it depends on how tan you are.
35:55
You've like really go to the beach before.
35:56
Yeah, yeah. Did you get a stray tan before?
35:59
Now? If you're if you're really
36:01
pretty pale, if it's been a while since you've been in the
36:04
sun and. Someone spills red wine on you
36:06
and it's just a raincoat, so it does not.
36:08
And so it's easy, Yeah. Doesn't matter if it rains on
36:11
your wedding day, you're good. Yeah.
36:13
So there are advantages. But yeah, if you answer blue
36:17
when what you really need is clear, yeah, you're gonna get
36:19
launched into that Canyon. I can't remember what they call
36:22
it, but it is a funny name. The Canyon something.
36:25
Despair. Yeah, something of.
36:27
There's always there's a bunch of despair in the movie, like
36:30
the blank of despair. Blanky blank of despair.
36:33
Yeah, the paint of despair. No, that's prison's bride.
36:37
Yeah. Oh yeah.
36:38
So we're just that is I feel like those two have like are
36:41
very much kindred. Absolutely.
36:43
They're very much kindred spirits.
36:45
What's? The types of bits that they do
36:46
and like the characters and stuff.
36:48
Yeah, I mean, even just the like the roll rolling down the hills
36:52
in a Princess Bride that like never ends reminds me a lot of
36:56
that. The whole trial of the three
36:58
guys, The Princess Bride is very Monty Pythonia.
37:01
It's like, that's definitely something King Arthur would have
37:03
to do. Of.
37:04
Course, and when he like laughs and then keels over dead like
37:08
that's classic. Like Monty Python?
37:10
Totally. Totally, and I also often mix
37:14
this movie up with Robin Hood men and types.
37:16
Yeah, that's another one. I feel like there was that that
37:18
this was this movie first or were those first?
37:21
This one was first this. Yeah, this kicked off the, like,
37:24
parody medieval era. Yeah, because they're like, oh,
37:26
Monty Python can do it. We can do it with hotter people.
37:29
Totally. And more money, hotter people
37:32
and more budget. I mean, even more actors.
37:35
Yeah, people. I mean every actor playing one
37:37
role, yeah. Yeah, instead of just John
37:39
Cleese doing everything. When you were a kid, did you
37:43
notice that it was like the same 5 actors playing everyone or
37:46
were? For the most part, I I think I
37:48
definitely was like, oh, there's that guy again.
37:50
But like, I remember I just was like, I think at that point my
37:53
mom was like an entertainment designer.
37:54
So like she was like doing shows.
37:56
So I understood that like when you have not a lot of budget,
38:00
yeah, you got to do everything. I had seen like a one person
38:03
show, I think before that point where they played multiple
38:06
characters. So I was like, all right, this
38:08
is like that. Kind of weird, but.
38:10
Yeah, totally, totally. That's awesome.
38:12
You're 7 years old and you're like, I understand a thing or
38:14
two. I've been to the theater.
38:18
You're like, I've seen a few avant-garde.
38:19
Yeah, oh, oh, this is this is one of one of many pieces though
38:23
I've I've actually should read my my column that I have in the
38:27
local elementary. School newspaper, rather.
38:29
You should skim it. Yeah, yeah.
38:31
It wasn't much of A reader. Not much of A reader.
38:33
But I loved, I loved watching adult movies.
38:36
I was really like, yeah, show me whatever.
38:39
Yeah, totally. It was good.
38:42
Let's see, what else should we? What else should we get into the
38:47
the Sir, Sir Robin not so quite as not so quite.
38:53
Sorry, Sir Robin the night not quite so brave as Sir Lancelot.
38:58
Man, that was hard. Let me try it again.
39:01
Sir Robin not quite so brave as Sir Lancelot.
39:05
And of course, the aptly name Sir Not appearing in this film.
39:09
Yeah. Sir Robin Bradley ran away.
39:11
Yeah, totally that. Was the 1 I loved like play for
39:15
him as he's. Like the musical element of
39:18
that. And then when they're all about
39:20
when they like start singing and then they get interrupted.
39:24
And also the the guy in his room by himself, God, what's his
39:29
name? The one who is told that he
39:33
can't leave the room. You stay here and make sure he
39:35
doesn't leave and he's like pining and he sends the arrow
39:38
and it hits so. They at every at every twist and
39:42
turn he's trying to break into song and they keep like, no.
39:46
No, no, no, no, no. I just want to no no, no.
39:53
No, no, no. Yeah, that's one of my.
39:55
And that's the one where where he shows up to murder everybody.
39:57
Yeah, he purrs. The lady getting married.
39:59
He he's there to save the guy in the power.
40:02
Yeah. Who wants to sing?
40:04
He just wants to. Think, yeah, I loved him.
40:08
And I love, I love the recurring.
40:10
Like, these people want it to be a musical, but it's not.
40:16
Yeah, but the Broadway production is a musical.
40:20
The Holy Grail. There's like, there's now like
40:25
Monty Python and the Holy Grail, the musical in addition to
40:28
Spamalot. So it's kind of like, yeah, at
40:31
least I. At least I what's the
40:32
difference? You know what?
40:34
That's a great place. Spamalot was Monty Python Holy
40:36
Grail the musical. You know what?
40:38
That is such a good question. It's not everything I know is a
40:42
lie. My whole world will shatter in
40:45
front of me right now. I.
40:46
Can't believe that I'm doing this again.
40:49
Dare destroy this for me. OK, so the stage show spam a Lot
40:56
does offer a revised plot while retaining many of the jokes from
41:00
the film, yeah. Because the movie is like lol.
41:02
Yeah, movie is. Well, I mean, is it 90 minutes?
41:06
Is it 90 minutes? Yeah, it may.
41:07
It felt longer as a kid. Maybe just I was just like into
41:10
it. I was too quick to agree with
41:12
you there. It was like when I saw in
41:13
advance I was like 90 minutes. I said a lot happens in 90
41:17
minutes. That's true.
41:18
They pack a lot in. They pack a lot in.
41:20
It moves quick. In May of 2018, 20th Century Fox
41:26
green light a film adaptation of the musical Okay, and then they
41:32
were slated to begin filming in early 2019.
41:35
They announced a move to Paramount Pictures in 2020.
41:39
However, in 2021 the they confirmed that it would not be
41:45
made because two of the former colleagues opposed it.
41:49
OK, then a Broadway revival began Previews in October of
41:53
2023 had an official opening night in November 2023.
42:00
So let's see the group arranged. OK, so here we go.
42:08
In 2013, the Pythons lost a legal case to Mark Forstader,
42:12
the Pythons Capital P Pythons, the film's producer, owing a
42:17
combined £800,000 in legal fees and back royalties to him for
42:22
the derivative work of Spamalot. To help cover the cost of these
42:26
royalties and fees, the group arranged and performed in a
42:29
stage show, Monty Python Live, mostly held at the O2 Arena in
42:34
London 2014. So I'm unsure if the one that's
42:39
on Broadway right now is Spamala or if it's.
42:43
It's definitely spamala. OK, great.
42:45
Yeah, OK, great 'cause I have a friend who Andrew Walter shout
42:51
out, friend of the pod. His his mom took him to see it
42:57
when he was in 7th grade. And then this year he surprised
43:02
his mom and took her to see it when they came back through
43:06
Seattle. So that's sweet.
43:08
And that was not very long ago. That was like this past year.
43:11
So I'm assuming that it's spam a lot.
43:13
And he said that basically like it was the same as the movie,
43:17
except it was on stage and they had some music.
43:20
So yeah, but that makes sense. The thing about Monty Python and
43:25
the Holy Grail is that the whole time you kind of expect it to be
43:28
a musical. At least for me, I felt like I
43:31
was constantly waiting for them to actually break out in song.
43:35
And I think that that is because I confuse it so much with Robin
43:39
Hood management where they do. Well, there are other movies,
43:44
too. They have songs like Life of Is
43:46
What is it, Life of Brian? Like every sperm is sacred.
43:49
Yeah. That's a whole song.
43:50
Yeah, totally. They've done a few right.
43:52
Like. Yeah.
43:53
They've done a few, like, musical bits.
43:56
Yeah. And in this one, I mean, there
43:58
are some songs about Sir Robin not, not quite so brave as Sir
44:02
Lancelot. Where they do they?
44:06
It's like, you know, probably 1/3 of a song.
44:09
His tongue. Cut out and his eyes gouge out
44:10
of this something I'm just viscerally describing.
44:14
And being murdered, yeah. Totally.
44:15
And then? Great, I remember.
44:17
Not quite so brave, but yeah, I feel like that is one of the
44:22
funniest bits is continuing to see it almost become a musical.
44:27
But then it's not. Yeah, when they cut, when they
44:29
cut someone off, when someone is about to break out in song like
44:32
that's a satire on its. I've seen so many like elements
44:35
of this movie incorporated into like later comedy movies.
44:38
I feel like to like this very much like influenced I the the
44:41
him running away from far distance and restarting again.
44:44
I forget where I saw it, but I remember seeing like that almost
44:48
like shot for shot in another comedy thing.
44:51
And I, I think like the person talked about it in an I remember
44:53
looking it up like, and they talked about it in an interview
44:55
that they were like making an allusion to that.
44:59
Yeah. But it's like there's a few
45:00
where like just the way that a lot of the scenes play out, I
45:03
feel like it's like the almost the cadence of it is copied a
45:06
lot totally. Where like the kind of like
45:08
bullheadedness of so many of the characters.
45:10
Yeah. I feel like I've seen that kind
45:12
of replicated because it just feels like this is a very early
45:14
example of, like, just watching people, like, fight.
45:17
Yeah, there's over and over again throughout a movie like
45:20
ever. No2 characters get along at all.
45:22
No, and they no one listens to each other.
45:25
They're diametrically opposed constantly and absolutely
45:28
everyone's like annoyed at them and they hates them and they
45:32
think they're the best in the world.
45:34
Of course, yes. Which is why it's so apartment
45:36
that the whole, like, you know, goal of, of King Arthur is to
45:42
get together this group of Knights, the, the round table,
45:45
the Knights of the Round table. And, and that he's trying to
45:49
like, get to this Holy Grail where in reality, nobody likes
45:54
each other. They're all diametrically
45:56
opposed to each other. They're all fighting both each
45:59
other and everyone that they encounter.
46:01
And so it is a doomed mission from the start.
46:05
The whole thing is like, you can't actually, you know, from
46:09
the beginning, like they can't actually achieve this.
46:11
Yeah. And that is?
46:13
Like a feudal like journey almost.
46:16
Yeah. Totally.
46:17
And the fact that it ends in like an abstract, like the 4th
46:20
wall getting broke, this is like a good like, Oh yeah, none of
46:23
this mattered at all. Yeah, none of this.
46:24
Matters the real life police like they get arrested for what?
46:28
Like killing someone. Yeah, yeah, They get arrested
46:30
for killing that one, that one guy who is like, he was like a
46:36
modern guy and his wife is there, sees it and be murdered
46:41
by by these like Knights from the 9th century.
46:47
Yeah, yeah. And then it's like they're just
46:49
crazy guys who are in, like costumes.
46:51
So that was, yeah. Exactly, exactly it it kind of
46:58
shoot, I lost my train of thought, but that's OK.
47:00
I'll go on to my next thought, which is that the I think that
47:06
it's really doing a good job of making fun of these like these
47:12
heroes journeys where it's it should be so unrealistic that
47:17
they could achieve what they want to achieve.
47:19
Like even just like gathering nights of the round table when
47:23
like working with all these egos and like trying to break into
47:27
castles and trying to do all the stuff that it's like, it's, it's
47:33
absurd really, that we can suspend our disbelief for so
47:36
many of these like high budget hero's journey type movies,
47:41
especially like medieval times set stories.
47:46
When in reality, it's like if we looked at it, if we looked at it
47:50
realistically, we would say, oh, this is doomed to fail.
47:53
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it we can suspend
47:57
disbelief more because it's in that like fake mini medieval
48:00
setting. Like it's not like there we have
48:01
nothing to compare it against. Like a modern world.
48:04
Yeah, yeah, totally. I think, I think that it's
48:12
interesting to see a movie like this take on a new life beyond
48:18
when it was released because like when it was released, it
48:20
was only like the reception was like lukewarm and it didn't
48:26
really make much money when it was first released.
48:28
Like cult classic. It's a total cult classic.
48:32
And I feel like it's one of those that.
48:36
Yeah, I don't, I don't really know how popular this movie is
48:38
because my mom, like, valued it so highly.
48:41
And I was like, oh, well, like when you told me no one had done
48:44
this, I was like, how? It's like, isn't that the movie
48:47
that everyone watched 100 times as a kid?
48:49
And then I'm thinking back. I'm like, no, that's a weird.
48:51
Yeah, that like absurd British comedy film that my mom in
48:55
particular love. Yeah.
48:57
So I I'm curious to see like, how much like people actually
49:01
do. I mean, I feel like it is kind
49:03
of a cultural like, yeah, Touchstone in ways.
49:05
I've seen it referenced a lot, but like, I don't know there.
49:08
I think there's definitely more of a blind spot to it than I
49:10
have aware of. Totally.
49:11
I feel like if I if I took a poll of my friends, I wonder how
49:16
many of them have watched it. Yeah, yeah, I'll do you know,
49:19
I'll do some, I'll do some crowdsourcing.
49:22
Yeah, I referenced Monk in conversation like a few weeks
49:25
ago and I was like, oh right, not everyone was a weird little
49:28
9 year old watching like psychic detective shows.
49:31
So like superpower disabled detective shows any, any
49:36
detective who had some sort of mental issue and was really good
49:41
at their job as a result of that, yeah.
49:43
Give me a minute. Absolutely.
49:44
Get us in there. Yeah, Psych mentalist Monk.
49:47
Oh my God, I love Monk. Holy Grail, yeah.
49:50
Totally, Monk. Such an such an underrated show.
49:54
Yeah, yeah. Tony Shalu, the voice of our
49:57
generation. Truly of our generation, Yeah,
50:00
26. No, I'm not sure.
50:02
I'm. I'm a Shalu PED.
50:03
I'm I'm as old as he is. Yeah, I die the day he does.
50:06
All right, so my age is unimportant.
50:09
It's I will expire when my Shalhoub Lord does.
50:15
I love it. I was saying something similar
50:17
yesterday about Terry Gross. Yeah, well, I I have a joke
50:21
about Terry Gross, so I get on the stage.
50:23
Yeah. Oh.
50:23
My God, that's awesome. Yeah.
50:26
You want to do it? You want to tell me a joke?
50:28
It's been a while since I've even done it.
50:30
That's OK. I don't mean to be like, oh,
50:31
you're a comic, tell me a joke. Wait, I, I'm mad that I can't
50:35
think about this right now. Yeah, I, I just reference NPR
50:38
and like, at one point I'm like, Oh yeah.
50:40
Like it's I'll. I'll think of it later.
50:44
I think you're going to think of it.
50:45
Yeah, it'll, it'll pop into my I'll be thinking about it.
50:47
You'll this camera is going to watch me dig through my brain
50:51
archive. You're going to see.
50:52
You're going to see the wheels turn.
50:53
Yeah. Deciphering.
50:55
I was talking about God. I don't even really remember how
50:59
it came up. I think it was OK, actually, I
51:02
do. I had the Childish Gambino song
51:06
Sunrise stuck in my head. And in that song he says
51:11
something like, call me Terry Gross on the Talk of the Nation
51:16
or something like that. And I was like, you know, Terry
51:20
Gross is really the queen of tiny little women with big
51:25
personalities that are like really short women who kind of
51:29
pack a big punch. And and she is our queen and our
51:33
supreme leader and. And I would die for her.
51:38
So, you know, that's kind of how I feel.
51:40
Even though Terry Gross is probably 50 years older than me,
51:44
maybe maybe 40. How old am I, 30?
51:47
She's probably. She's probably 70.
51:48
Right. Gross.
51:49
Yeah. Wow, I got it.
51:51
I got it. Oh my God, he's got it.
51:52
It's occurred. All right, So it's, I forget how
51:54
to get into this joke, but it's basically about how, like, I
51:57
come from an NPR family, not an NFL family like my dad's like,
52:00
oh, why watch grown men tax each other when you can listen to
52:02
Terry Gross tackle the tough issue?
52:07
You said Terry Gross sacked that guy.
52:09
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you said. Terry Gross beat the shit out of
52:12
that guy. Yeah.
52:14
No, Terry, I remember listening to a lot of Terry Gross.
52:16
A lot of. Yeah, that's.
52:17
You're hitting all the points that like made me who I am
52:19
today. I only fight on Terry Gross.
52:21
Yeah, Monk. And it shows.
52:25
And I mean that, and I mean that as a compliment.
52:27
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's my calming voice, even tell
52:32
how much Terry Gross I listen to, and it's not at all because
52:35
I'm just losing my voice, right? Now, no, totally.
52:37
It's because of Terry. It's because of it's because of
52:39
my queen Terry and my people in my culture of short of short
52:43
little women with, with big personality.
52:45
I would never know Punch. I never know.
52:47
She sounds like a giant I I just imagine her mogging old guests I
52:53
mentioned, just like you're looming over them like Terry
52:56
Gross. And spiritually, she does.
52:58
She sucks. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna look up
53:00
exactly how tall. How tall is Terry?
53:04
What? Is Teresa, is that what that
53:07
show for or is she just a Terry? I think she might just be Terry.
53:11
She's 4 feet 11 inches. For some reason I was like, is
53:15
it Terrence? Terrence Gross.
53:19
Let's look at her Wikipedia page.
53:22
She it's just Terry. Terry G.
53:25
Yeah, I really like that when when people who intend to call
53:30
their kids by a name just call them that name.
53:33
Like if her parents knew. Yeah, like I'm not.
53:36
William that's, I don't know, a lot of just Liam's.
53:39
That is awesome. It does make it worse though,
53:41
when my name is Liam Nelson and Liam Neeson was already a famous
53:44
person when I was born. Like my mom was like, she could
53:48
have had plausible deniability and just back, oh, you're named
53:51
William, but we just call you Liam.
53:52
Like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
53:54
She knew exactly what she was doing.
53:56
And it's not like she, she was like, you know, absent from the
54:00
world of entertainment, Didn't hear of him.
54:01
No, she was very much involved. Yeah, I asked her like, do you
54:04
name me after ever? She's like, no, I'm like, well,
54:06
but you knew he was alive, though.
54:09
He was already famous. Like, like, we just gotta hang
54:13
names up in the rafters like basketball jerseys, you know,
54:15
like you can't be repeating names like numbers.
54:17
That's we really. Too bad for my SEO.
54:23
Can't believe that your mom didn't think of your SEO when?
54:25
I know, love. Come on, marketing.
54:27
Marketing when you're. Having kids think about the
54:31
marketing. You always have to think about
54:33
the marketing. Yeah, you do.
54:35
Yeah. It reminds me of how right now
54:37
my license plate is so expired, like my license plate tags, that
54:41
they're gonna make me get a new license plate with, like a new
54:44
number and everything. And I know.
54:46
I know. Good.
54:47
I'm gonna. Go to the DMV.
54:48
I'm a part of the problem. But they they said like, yeah,
54:52
the we like recycle the numbers. Like it goes back into the
54:56
system. So you're going to have to get a
54:58
new one. So now I'm walking around
54:59
thinking someone else has my license plate.
55:01
They're getting it out. And so I don't love that.
55:06
I think that we should really just hang it up because what if,
55:09
what if, what if someone I don't know commits a crime with my
55:13
license plate number on the back of their car?
55:15
It's true. It is motivation for you to go
55:17
to the DMV sooner than later. Yeah, yeah, I think that's
55:20
probably for the best. Yeah, you might want to sort
55:22
that out. I'm not gonna talk about the
55:24
status of my plates on my car because I should do that on a
55:28
public forum. Oh, so you're so much smarter.
55:32
Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're, no, I'm just, I think
55:35
mine is more illegal than yours. So we're just, it's all good.
55:39
Oh. My God, he's driving a stolen
55:41
car. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
55:42
No, I stole it from myself. It just the government doesn't
55:46
know about the car. So, right.
55:49
Been driving through a lot of bridges with no tags on.
55:52
You don't get tolls if you don't have tags.
55:55
And it's been working for a long time, so that's amazing.
55:59
Nobody tell. All right, We're friends.
56:01
Now this is between us. This is just in the family.
56:05
We're keeping this in the family.
56:07
Yeah, or we will as the French in the castle.
56:12
Do we ask you will sack you. And.
56:14
We will throw it on. You're a cow.
56:16
Yeah, at you. Probably, Probably.
56:18
Whatever I gotta do to keep my tags from?
56:21
Absolutely. You know, the great thing about
56:24
the practical, like the bad practical effects, is that we
56:28
never think to ourselves, Oh my God, a real cow is getting hurt
56:32
in the making of this film. It's not realistic at all.
56:35
It's not as though we're seeing a CGI, very lifelike cow flying
56:39
through the air. Human beings died by the dozens.
56:41
The cows were unharmed. The cows unharmed and I really
56:45
do appreciate that. OK, well gosh, what else do we
56:49
have to discuss? Is there anything else related
56:51
to Monty Python or just your whatever is on your mind that we
56:58
haven't discussed yet? I don't know.
57:00
I think, I think we hit all the points of the movie.
57:02
I think we did too. Feel like I'd tell a lot about
57:04
myself outside of the movie as well.
57:08
Comedians. It's been really fun to be a
57:10
Mystery Science Theater guy. I've never had to be that
57:13
because I was too tall and I would block the film.
57:15
So that's. And here this is.
57:19
Here we're not even watching the movie, we're just talking about
57:20
it. Yeah, literally.
57:21
I have not. I still not seen the film since
57:23
I was 12. This is straight recollection I
57:27
have still as a 26 year old 14 years after seeing the film.
57:31
Lost, and that's a powerful. So it's baked in there.
57:33
It's baked in, he doesn't have room for anything else, so don't
57:36
try to teach him anything or suggest.
57:38
If anyone knows a bar trivia place that only does Monty
57:42
Python and the Holy Grail quotes?
57:45
There is got to be. You might have.
57:47
To I'm your guy. You might have to go to the UK
57:49
but I imagine. I know there are so many other
57:51
people who are somehow better at that than me and.
57:54
I totally just got to find the subreddit and there will be
57:57
people who are competitively. Yeah, they'll, they'll just kick
58:00
my ass. Yeah, totally.
58:01
But we all need to be humbled. Everywhere.
58:03
God forbid I try to beat a redditor at some point.
58:06
God forbid I try, I try to make something of my 2.
58:08
Tricks in their fedora. Yeah, it's it's tough out here
58:15
and it's tough out there. I was going to say, I was going
58:19
to say one more thing about Monty Python.
58:21
Oh, no, I was going to say for you being here on this podcast
58:24
is that we are, you know, this is a disability inclusive
58:28
podcast, which is why why we wouldn't make you stand in front
58:32
of anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
58:34
We let our guests sit if they want.
58:38
And what? If I had come in and like, no,
58:40
I'll stand, what would you have even done?
58:44
I would have said, OK, well, I'll be down here.
58:47
Yeah, very gross. And I think I wouldn't even be
58:50
able to be out of the shock because the ceiling's too low.
58:51
So they could have made it work. I just would have been like, hey
58:55
everyone. We would have just tilted the
58:57
camera up, yeah, a little bit, or it would have just been like
59:00
a midsection. You just see my like hips down
59:03
and then like nipples up. Like the middle part is just out
59:06
of the screen. They just cut it happened.
59:09
That's movie magic. Hey, listener, viewer, thank you
59:13
so much for being with us. Liam, thank you so much for
59:16
being. Me for having me.
59:17
Oh. My God, it was a pleasure.
59:18
And go see, go see Liam on tour, let you know, keep that money
59:23
coming in so he can keep paying his bills.
59:26
Yeah. You know, the disability tax out
59:28
here. It's tough.
59:29
Yeah, it's like the pink tax but disabled.
59:32
I don't know what that blue, the blue tax, the parking pass tax.
59:37
Yeah, the you don't have. Your body doesn't value you as a
59:40
full human being. Tax.
59:42
The you don't have your license plate tags update and we give
59:45
you tickets every. I'm selling the car.
59:47
It's fine. I'm selling it as soon as I get
59:50
back from this to work because I live in New York and I.
59:53
Just going to say you. Can only have a car for three
59:55
years before I gave up on having a car.
59:59
Yeah, but yeah, every, every, every guy's got a dream.
1:00:02
You know, you got to try it for yourself, Having a car in New
1:00:05
York to find out what it's what, what an inconvenience.
1:00:08
It's been a dream. It's been a dream getting up at
1:00:10
7:00 AM every other day to move it.
1:00:12
Or you're getting a $65 ticket if I if my alarm doesn't go off.
1:00:16
Yeah. Totally.
1:00:17
Because I was right on time for this podcast, so I'm definitely
1:00:20
right on time to move my car at 7:00 in the morning.
1:00:23
So this is yeah, I'm really good at that.
1:00:25
Yeah, totally. I can see how that goes.
1:00:26
So buy his car if you see. Yeah.
1:00:28
Hey. Got a Ford Flex 2019, it's got
1:00:30
about 130,000 miles on it. So it's, you know, it's not,
1:00:34
it's not a young vehicle. New.
1:00:36
But it runs good. Nothing's wrong with it other
1:00:40
than it's in New York and I don't want it anymore.
1:00:43
So take my car, all right? That's my last plug.
1:00:45
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