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BREAKING: $10 Trillion Will Flood into Bitcoin | EP 760 · Simply Bitcoin

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  Yo, welcome to Simply Bitcoin live.
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  It is Friday June 16th 2023. I'm very happy.
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  And the reason I'm very happy is because Bitcoin stays winning,
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  I'm going to read you to headlines, and they're about
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  five, six, maybe seven years apart.
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  This is a headline from October 13, 2017 BlackRock CEO, Larry
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  Fink, calls Bitcoin and quote index of money laundering.
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  This is an, this is an article from the same publication June
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  15, 20 22 3, BlackRock files for spot Bitcoin ETF with coinbase
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  as a crypto custodian. The Bitcoin incentives.
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  Stay winning. They continue to win, right?
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  And the only thing the other side has is coercion.
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  So yeah, it's going to be a very, very bullish episode.
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  We also have a very special guest.
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  We have Mick from geyser who's able to join us today.
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  I'm going to welcome up on stage in a second.
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  But first, my legendary co-host. Always optimistic, brother.
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  Holy crap. We just Bitcoin, just stays
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  winning, dude. Stays winning.
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  This is amazing. Yeah, I agree as we were saying
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  on Twitter. You know, bull market confirmed
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  but I don't know, I'm a bit conflicted here on this one.
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  Nico, I know, I know Bitcoin stays winning.
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  Bitcoin incentives are pure, but I don't know, man.
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  I think I think my alarm bells are going off, but wait for the
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  news, let's bring in. Make we got make from geyser fun
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  in today. So we're going to talk about all
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  the good things about guys are fund with our boy.
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  Make here for Content creators. Has.
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  And I think you guys are going to enjoy this one.
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  This one should be epic. How you doing this morning, bro?
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  I don't think. Wait, it's I'm so so honored to
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  be here. Thank you guys so much.
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  I've been watching you guys first since forever.
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  So it seemed to be here happy to have you on the show.
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  For anyone who doesn't know for anyone who doesn't know who's
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  just joining us, or should we save it for the culture?
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  I don't think you guys understand how important geyser
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  is for. Content creators in general.
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  community found them, right? It was really born.
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  Bill from this corners for bitcoiners to launch her ideas
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  and be supported by the community.
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  Really easy. Simple tool that that anyone
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  where anyone can contribute to the Bitcoin ecosystem, really.
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  There's many different angles of which you can see geyser but
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  really think about it as a bit like a Kickstarter a GoFundMe
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  built on top entirely on bitcoin and on lightning and you know it
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  stands on the principles of bitcoiners so it's you.
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  We're not non-custodial. So all the funds may pass
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  through geyser, but guys are never remains a custodians that
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  always goes to goes to the creators.
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  And it remains, you know, one of the best easiest ways for people
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  to just start launching their ideas.
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  Awesome. Yeah.
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  Like I said you play and we were very lucky to share a panel
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  together at the Bitcoin Bitcoin 2023.
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  And I just got to say Say from and I know it's not just for
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  Content creators, but from the perspective of a content
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  creator, I think, guys are plays a very, very important role in
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  the ecosystem and we really want to highlight that today.
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  Anyways, everybody no more delay.
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  This jump straight into news. We gotta go straight into the
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  1.76 percent and the market capitalization of Bitcoin 501
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  billion dollars with Abby. Anyways, here is Samsung now he
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  had a conversation With he was on Breedlove show and I think it
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  was like an in-person recording. Anyways, I'm going to play the
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  clip and then we'll talk about it.
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  Let's check it out. Even if you don't want the
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  bigger, the other interesting thing is I tell them, even if
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  you don't want the Bitcoin, you can simply sell it though.
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  If you value gold, if you value dollars, it's there for you to
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  take rise, take the Bitcoin and sell.
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  It's the most liquid Market on the planet with some forty
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  billion dollars of trade, volume daily.
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  Mmm. So, it's almost irresponsible
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  not to tap into that. Yeah, and take it.
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  Build roads, build hospitals, build airports.
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  Now, whatever you Need the. Let's go to look at it.
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  I would like to. I'm just reminded right now, the
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  analogy use last time for a nation-state of a hotel.
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  All right. So, shout out.
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  First of all to Breedlove amazing content.
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  Like always check out the, what is money show.
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  But, anyways, I want to focus on this, right?
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  So, specifically, what was now referring to?
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  So, so Samson was referring to an energy-rich country should be
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  mining Bitcoin to fund their own infrastructure.
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  Indonesia, Hardware wallets Network resilience, ordinals and
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  more on the latest. Episode of the, what is money
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  show. But I want to really focus on
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  the the top part of this, right? We're just talking about energy,
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  rich countries. Well, it becomes a no-brainer,
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  and this isn't just a theory anymore.
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  This is something that we're watching, play out, Burma right.
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  Massive amount of hydro electric capacity, and they use some of
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  that crap out without saying it without saying anything, right?
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  They didn't take the route of El Salvador with, you know, they
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  made it the had a lot of, you know, publicity right there.
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  Kind of kept it under wraps. I suspect is because they didn't
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  want the attention. But, you know, this is this is a
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  country that, you know, is blessed with this.
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  You know, tremendous amount of hydro electric capacity excess
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  capacity and they figured out. Hey, I could just turn that into
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  Bitcoin before it was very hard. Like, what were you going to do
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  with all that excess energy? Right?
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  Is very hard to transport it over long distances, you know,
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  Battery Technology is not quite there yet.
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  So they figured hey, let me just turn that into Bitcoin now.
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  There's so Any other countries all around the world that are
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  very similar in that sense? Maybe it's not hydroelectric,
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  maybe they just have a tremendous amount of, you know,
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  of of fossil fuels of, you know, natural gas.
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  I have no idea, right? The point is, you know, any
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  country that has, you know, is energy-rich, you know, could
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  mine Bitcoin. And I think that's, I think it's
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  inevitable. And I think that's something
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  that you're going to definitely see in the coming decade for
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  sure. I think it's It all roads lead
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  to bitcoin. It's just a question of.
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  How long does it take for people to wake up to this?
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  I don't know. Maybe I'm seeing things.
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  I want to get mixed. Take what are your thoughts man?
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  Really interesting at first? I thought about it in a
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  different way, actually I thought something was referring
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  to mine. Energy mine Bitcoin by tapping
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  into your energy resources, right?
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  And then just sell it into the market which is also a very
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  interesting, you know, pitch to The World of Energy intensity
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  countries that have a lot of resources that energy but yeah,
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  that, you know, just accept it and tourists will come.
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  It's the same narrative that we actually here in the UK where
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  I'm based but also all over the world are people that are
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  working with the merchants, to get them to accept Bitcoin.
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  As just saying, look there are all these people that are crazy
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  Fanatics about spending their Bitcoin just accept Bitcoin.
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  And just, you can route it back into your Fiat or whatever.
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  It's just an alternative payment real that has a lot of users
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  that were people will come because of that.
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  So as a still picture, makes absolute sense from the micro
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  perspective of businesses to the macro perspective of
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  nation-states. Yeah, 100% And and I love the
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  way that that Samsung free phrased it, right.
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  It's like look like, even if you don't like Bitcoin, like even if
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  you don't believe in the in Bitcoin, you could just sell it
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  like Simple as that. What are you gonna do with all
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  that excess energy in the first place?
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  Right? Which is that's the pitch,
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  right? Like that's why, you know, a
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  country like Burma would, you know, take the, it's not Burma.
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  I completely messed up the name and that's oh, man, it's a
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  Raton. Bhutan thank you so much Opti, I
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  really apologize about that guy's is not the country that
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  happen entire balance sheet from Celsius or some.
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  Yes, yes, it's not Burma. So, I forgive me, guys.
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  I apologize. That's my bad, but no, it's a
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  country of Bhutan, very, very small country in the middle of
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  Asia and apparently they have a tremendous amount of hydro
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  electric capacity and they're using that to mine Bitcoin.
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  I think it's just a matter of time before people wake up to
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  this rally. I mean, look, oil companies.
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  Energy companies are doing this already right?
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  You know, you had ConocoPhillips that came out tepco which is a
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  Japanese energy producer as well came out that they're mine.
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  Bitcoin gasps prom also came out which is the Russian State oiled
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  state-owned Energy company came out that they were mining
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  Bitcoin as well. I think all roads lead to
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  bitcoin. I think all excess energy is
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  going to be eventually eaten by Bitcoin.
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  I'm calling it right now. Anyways Opti, what's your take
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  on all this? My being too?
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  Optimistic is Nico being 22 Opti.
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  I think you're the pessimist on the show so I am looking
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  stupidly bullish here. But first, I really Mix
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  perspective as well. I couldn't agree more and I
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  really like how Samson kind of phrased it in that video.
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  Like, it's irresponsible to not tap into Bitcoin II, can't see
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  how countries or even individuals or private companies
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  don't benefit from the Bitcoin Network in general.
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  And I think energy is the sleeper killer app to bitcoin
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  and shout out to my boy, Mike Hobart, because he's been
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  beating the drum on this for a while.
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  That? Yes, Bitcoin is savings.
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  Yes, Bitcoin will help the individual but bit And is
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  revolutionising the energy sector and it's almost
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  impossible to ignore at this point.
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  We are seeing more receipts, more data points.
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  Proving the point that, hey, if you have excess energy, if
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  you're a country with excess energy, your private company
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  with excess energy, why not just plug in some off, some Asics
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  profits are good and you can make more profits and make your
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  company even more profitable. And hey, we do live in a
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  capitalist system and I know all the corporations out there.
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  Like how do we make more money? We are Just burning money and
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  who likes to think about the idea that you are just wasting
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  money? When there is an easy
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  alternative to just plug in a 6? Like, it's as simple as either
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  incentivizing, you know, mobile minors to come in and plug into
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  your excess energy or, you know, building the infrastructure to
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  do it yourself. So, I think there is a lot of
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  opportunity here and it's only a matter of time until whether
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  it's countries or companies, they all wake up to the fact
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  that you are literally burning money right now.
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  Are wasting money by letting your energy go without putting
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  it towards something that can literally, basically print money
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  out of thin air, don't we all want the opportunity to print
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  money. Well, hey, just plug in some a
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  sex. If you have excess energy and
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  it's happening around the world right now, so it's no more just
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  like ideological or theoretical. We are seeing this happen in
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  real time and it's only a matter of time until the spreads out
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  into other countries other companies and they wake up to
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  the fact that they are literally burning money or wasting money
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  right now. Now, and they can just plug into
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  the Bitcoin Network. Beautiful.
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  Yeah, 100%. Yeah.
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  And and there's, I mean, what else could do that?
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  You guys no, no clue. Make doesn't know either.
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  Yeah, I'm the same market right. That the market is like someone
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  said, right Bitcoins, the only true free market in the world
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  and some way Bitcoin is, is, is the market for for energy.
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  But really, for anything, right? Because you guys don't have to
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  ask for permission to start doing a podcast about Bitcoin.
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  Right. Like, you know, we didn't have
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  to ask for permission to build a company in Bitcoin, like, if we
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  want to try to do something like that in a traditional World,
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  good. That you're going to have to do.
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  I mean, first of all, to build up, guys are just to bring it
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  up. We have like 10 rejections from
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  bank accounts to just use geyser to create a geyser bank account,
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  imagine to Route pain and through her back impossible
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  impossible. So this coin just enables the
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  market to happen as well. Like we don't think about that
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  offer enough but it's just an incredible foundational
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  technology for the development of the market itself.
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  Yeah, 100%, 100%. 100% is bullish stuff.
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  Bullish stuff for bullish Friday.
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  Anyways, everybody, let's get to news.
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  We got a lot to talk about. Let's check it out.
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  appreciate it guys. Anyways, when I get to the
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  breaking news, it really came out yesterday.
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  But I wanted to kind of let it marinate a little bit so that we
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  can get out more information. But Rock tries tries for spot
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  Bitcoin, ETF with fresh SEC, filing.
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  I think the significance of this is, this is happening.
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  This happened a week after coinbase was sued, by the SEC.
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  And by Nance was sued by the SSC and something very similar
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  happened when with Fidelity, right?
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  This is a, you have two massive companies that have a tremendous
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  amount of money under management and Trillions of dollars not
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  billions of dollars and they both said didn't read was the me
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  mopti didn't didn't read not selling or something?
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  Yeah so anyways let's check out this Bloomberg article.
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  It says, BlackRock tries for for spot Bitcoin ETF with fresh SEC
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  filing, BlackRock ink is trying trying his hand at potentially,
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  getting the first spot, Bitcoin exchange traded fund launched in
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  the US. The world's largest asset
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  manager on Thursday applied for the ishares Bitcoin trust,
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  according to a filing. The US Securities Exchange
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  Commission, coinbase. The biggest crypto Exchange in,
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  the US would act as a custodian. The ETF should it launched would
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  trade on NASDAQ. I think the key part of this is
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  the world's largest asset manager to be specific.
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  They have 10 trillion dollars under management.
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  And I mean like it goes and I read you guys the, the headline,
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  in the, in the very beginning and just contrasting that Right.
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  So Larry Fink basically saying, you know Bitcoin is used for
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  money laundering 57 years, later number go up technology, does
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  its thing, Bitcoins incentives, stay winning and then all of a
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  sudden it's kind of a 180 now. I saw yellow in the chat saying,
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  fuck BlackRock, I completely agree.
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  I don't think I think the dangers of an ETF is that
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  people, get comfortable and then they just start buying the ETF
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  instead of buying Bitcoin. And then you have the risk of
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  what Kaitlyn all Caitlin Long. Always talks about
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  rehypothecation right selling Bitcoin that they don't have,
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  right? And then that could be used as a
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  mechanism for Price suppression, right?
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  And a lot of people theorize has a theorized that's what's
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  happened to gold, right? That's been captured, right?
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  So, and I've pinned this to the top of my profile.
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  I don't think it's there anymore on my Twitter but I said if
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  enough take if enough people take self custody, we win this
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  thing. No matter what happens.
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  Now, the risk with an ETF like I said, is that people You know
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  what? They're charged Schwab account,
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  you know the just be like, hey like why do I just you know,
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  like why do I need to go to Dollars and then buy Bitcoin and
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  go to the process of taking self custody?
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  This is so easy, it's just like owning a stock like, why not?
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  Right. So that's the kind of the risk.
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  Like, if you want to be honest like from the Bitcoin
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  perspective, like that's kind of the wrist.
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  Now from the other perspective this is another sign of
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  institutional adoption. I think that was like one of the
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  narratives in 2017 was what the institutions are.
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  The institutions legal institutions, never fucking
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  game. But the institutions are
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  definitely here now and it's that's undeniable at this point.
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  Anyways, it goes on to say this is at least the thirty third
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  attempt by issuers for a spot Bitcoin product.
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  According to a tally from Bloomberg intelligence but
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  applications have faced opposition by Regulators who
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  have in the past sided Market concerns in a lack of investor
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  protections. Among other things.
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  That SEC, meanwhile is suing coinbase alleging that it is
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  running an illegal change the company and if think about how
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  consequential that is, right, the company, the largest acids
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  are asset manager in the world, not only is like, okay, you
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  know, clearly we know how the by demonstration feels about the
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  industry. No, not only that they're using
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  the company that is being sued to be the custodian in this
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  thing in the first place. And as much as I don't like
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  coinbase, I hate crypto casinos, I think, you know that A lot of
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  people react and they, you know, they sell people in the false
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  equivalence between Bitcoin and altcoins.
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  Right? And then everyone kind of has,
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  you know, they're they're they're, you know, unit bias,
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  right, where they see, oh, Bitcoins at 29th out or 25,000 I
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  can get cardano at fuckin what 3.
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  So I don't know what it's trading.
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  At 342 sense. I don't know.
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  So you like I could buy a lot more cardano like like exchanges
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  like coinbase and that sense heard a lot of people, right?
• 20:54
  Because it's kind of giving this It's like fall.
• 20:56
  It's comparing apples to oranges without properly disclosing it.
• 21:01
  So anyways I think this is you know, incredibly bullish, but I
• 21:04
  do agree with yellow. You know, black rock is
• 21:07
  definitely not an institution to be trusted, here's bit plate,
• 21:11
  bit pain and I think is a pretty good.
• 21:13
  Observation says BlackRock is probably the most politically
• 21:16
  powerful and connected entity in the United States.
• 21:19
  I bet this spot a Bitcoin ETF will be approved.
• 21:23
  Everything Gary and other agencies have done was covered.
• 21:25
  Wash out the undeserving FrontRunner and let the anointed
• 21:29
  have their do. That's a that's a pretty good
• 21:31
  observation let's see if that comes true.
• 21:34
  Here's an update from Bitcoin Bitcoin.
• 21:36
  Treasuries. I don't know if this is a troll
• 21:40
  because this isn't its American hottel meme Opti.
• 21:44
  Yeah. 6.15 okay so if you look at Bitcoin treasuries which is a
• 21:49
  website built by coin kite and Shout out mvk you know it does a
• 21:54
  really good job at like kind of tracking what public companies
• 21:58
  or what Bitcoin or what companies are holding Bitcoin on
• 22:01
  their balance sheet. Of course we know
• 22:03
  microstrategy's number one with 140,000 Bitcoin but if you take
• 22:07
  a look at here BlackRock is on that list and Men you think it's
• 22:12
  a coincidence that they bought 6.15.
• 22:16
  I don't know if that's a coincidence Abdi.
• 22:18
  I think, you know, I think they might be sending a message.
• 22:22
  I don't want to read too into it, but I think that's
• 22:24
  hilarious. Just a reminder guys.
• 22:26
  BlackRock holds 10 trillion dollars under management.
• 22:30
  But by the way, this all this only this isn't only but this
• 22:34
  isn't only happening with black rock, right?
• 22:37
  This is also happening with two or two other major institutions
• 22:41
  in the US and we actually This when the when the news came out,
• 22:47
  right, these are the top 10 owners of microstrategy stock
• 22:51
  and microstrategy stock, because they own so much Bitcoin.
• 22:55
  You can make the argument that it kind of functions like a
• 22:57
  Bitcoin ETF, it totally isn't. But the stuff, the microstrategy
• 23:01
  stock in the Bitcoin price is very, very it's tightly cord
• 23:05
  according to correlated, right? You know it's almost as if
• 23:09
  they're kind of the same thing but there's there's three
• 23:12
  institutions here to keep in mind.
• 23:13
  That are very, very interesting. So you have black rock, right?
• 23:17
  That loaded on microstrategy stock, most importantly, you
• 23:21
  have Bank of America, which bun which bought a ton of
• 23:26
  microstrategy stock and then, of course, Fidelity.
• 23:29
  Right. Fidelity also has a tremendous
• 23:32
  amount of assets under management specifically for
• 23:35
  point five trillion dollars and that's trillion with a t.
• 23:41
  So I mean look I'll ever Always kind of makes the case you know
• 23:48
  this was an air. I never forget this 2017 that
• 23:50
  that was the narrative. I know.
• 23:51
  I know Opti you remember that narrative, I everyone remembers
• 23:55
  that narrative institutions are coming, institutions are coming
• 23:57
  institutions for coming. So let's kind of go through a
• 23:59
  thought experiment. I'm feeling bullish on Friday.
• 24:04
  This was this Arc investment that was set out and it kind of
• 24:09
  makes three cases for you know, Bitcoin.
• 24:13
  And the potential price of Bitcoin in 2030.
• 24:16
  And, of course we don't speculate on this channel.
• 24:18
  We just, you know, we recommend dollar cost, averaging staying
• 24:22
  humble stacking SATs, but I want to have fun today, so let's do
• 24:26
  it. Anyways.
• 24:27
  The 2030 bear case. According to this Arc research
• 24:33
  is apparently is 258,000 for 20-30.
• 24:38
  The base case is 682,000 and the bull case. 2030 is one point
• 24:45
  four eight million and then they kind of break it down, right?
• 24:48
  They talk about the penetration, right?
• 24:50
  So if you know, if in the bull case Bitcoin would be five
• 24:54
  percent of corporate treasuries and the bear case, it would be
• 24:57
  zero II. Just don't see that happening
• 25:00
  remittance rate in the bear case would be 5% in.
• 25:03
  The book case would be twenty five percent nation state
• 25:05
  treasury. Now, that's where I'm kind of on
• 25:07
  the Bears side. It's zero percent and then the
• 25:11
  bull case, it's 5% emerging Kitt currency on the bear case.
• 25:15
  It's point five percent on the bull case it's 10% economics
• 25:19
  settlement Network it's 1% on the bear case on the bull case
• 25:22
  it's 10% seizure resistant asset on the bear case it's 1% on the
• 25:27
  bull case it's 5% institutional investment now I mean we're on
• 25:34
  the right track there right on the bear case, it's 1 percent on
• 25:37
  the bull case is 6.5 percent digital gold on the bear case.
• 25:42
  It's 20% on the bolt. Is it 50% anyways, just kind of
• 25:46
  wanted to, you know, talk about some possibilities.
• 25:50
  Some potentials like laying it out there and I love Pandora's
• 25:54
  Box comment for audio listeners. He or she says Game Theory.
• 26:00
  Works perfectly. Yeah, I think this is Bitcoins
• 26:02
  incentive, stay winning, you know, and that goes to show.
• 26:05
  And by the way, Black Rock isn't the first company that kind of
• 26:09
  Switched Michael sailor. Many many years before He became
• 26:14
  the Bitcoin Chad. There's a tweet that I remember
• 26:18
  that he basically said you know the this thing isn't going to
• 26:21
  work out like Bitcoin isn't gonna work out.
• 26:24
  I think Bitcoin keeps proving the world wrong with ngu with
• 26:28
  number go up technology. The fact that it becomes more
• 26:31
  and more resilient it becomes harder to kill you, had the CCP
• 26:34
  one of the, one of the most powerful, you know, governments
• 26:38
  in the world band, this thing multiple times, Band Bitcoin
• 26:44
  mining within their borders and the hash rate, literally only
• 26:48
  took nine months to recover it decentralized in the process and
• 26:51
  now it's continuing to make all-time highs, right?
• 26:54
  So if you can't kill the honey badger, you're just making it
• 26:57
  stronger and I think the world is starting to wake up to that
• 27:00
  fact. And I think that's precisely why
• 27:04
  black rock made this announcement.
• 27:06
  Now that theory by bit. Pain is very interesting if they
• 27:10
  approve the BlackRock ETF and they deny Tied, everything else
• 27:16
  that is some, that's us, man. It's very, very, very that's
• 27:20
  some sketchy shit. Anyways, Mick, what are your
• 27:23
  thoughts on this? Do you think this is a nothing
• 27:26
  Burger? Do you think, you know, do you
• 27:28
  think it's consequential? What are your thoughts about,
• 27:32
  you know, BlackRock applying for a Bitcoin ETF?
• 27:39
  Yes, so much to say I think the first point I'd like to make is
• 27:43
  the fact that I think of all the think, all the biggest news of
• 27:48
  by far is the SEC suing coinbase that is as a very, very
• 27:55
  important point, right? Really stressed.
• 27:58
  The fact that we're in this sort of moment of dividing like where
• 28:03
  the waters are being divided, like the the it's being clear,
• 28:08
  that Bitcoin is not. Security Bitcoin is as
• 28:10
  Commodities, digital Bearer, instrument, this decentralized
• 28:15
  thing, that isn't a different point than all these other
• 28:19
  cryptocurrency. Now, this is just started saying
• 28:21
  that I don't know Solana and polygons and all these other
• 28:25
  courts of currencies are securities.
• 28:28
  And this is just the beginning right there, just starting with
• 28:31
  the obvious ones, and then they're going to start going up
• 28:34
  and up, and up the entire spectrum of cryptocurrencies.
• 28:37
  And this is This is incredible. Like this is insane implication.
• 28:42
  This this really reduces all these other cryptocurrencies.
• 28:47
  Like reduces liquidity liquid. This is a market and and and
• 28:51
  gets people thinking about. Well, I have to actually be
• 28:54
  careful in Holiness because the security and it has, it's
• 28:57
  actually a legal security and it has implications.
• 29:00
  So I think on one hand, this is happening on the other.
• 29:02
  It doesn't mean that crypto will die, it will keep going, but it
• 29:08
  will happen. In the guise of the SEC.
• 29:10
  So it's like you can create your cryptocurrency.
• 29:13
  You just have to, you have to register it as a security.
• 29:16
  So in some ways I think going base, could still go still has
• 29:20
  two choices, right? Do I want to be do, I also want
• 29:24
  to continue creating these pumps and pump and pump and dump
• 29:28
  schemes? But within a regulated
• 29:30
  environment which isn't always really you know good for the end
• 29:36
  customers anyway but they might still find Find some way to kind
• 29:40
  of inserted within the regulatory framework or do I
• 29:43
  want to actually, you know, innovate a new payment layer
• 29:47
  with Bitcoin, with lightning, but I don't see them.
• 29:50
  Really, really do that in any case, although they have the
• 29:53
  opportunity. So I think that's, but I think
• 29:57
  something that's really important point that divides
• 29:59
  Waters and, you know, really stressed to the point that
• 30:01
  Bitcoin is another different scale than everything else.
• 30:04
  And that I find the most exciting thing and it will lead
• 30:07
  a lot of people to start. Art thinking about Bitcoin only
• 30:11
  as a complete different asset class.
• 30:13
  That's, that's the first point when it comes to the the whole
• 30:16
  Black Rock thing. I honestly, I honestly don't
• 30:20
  know, I read into a quite a bit to the the the gold with that
• 30:25
  they use gold ETFs to really kind of keep the price down.
• 30:31
  Like you guys said, I don't see that happening in the same way.
• 30:37
  Why is that? Why it why?
• 30:38
  Why is The reason is I don't see the mechanism through which they
• 30:42
  can contain the price. So they can do that with gold
• 30:46
  because a lot of the goal has been.
• 30:48
  Anyway it's custody. Right?
• 30:50
  That the majority the goal is held in vaults or maybe not
• 30:53
  whereas with Bitcoin there are so many holders that that do you
• 31:00
  know hold their keys that don't custody and it'd be interesting
• 31:03
  to see the percentage of Bitcoin held in custody versus not.
• 31:06
  Maybe that would, that would help because Like what happened
• 31:10
  with FDX. If you guys remember with ft x,
• 31:13
  they were able to manipulate and lower the price of Bitcoin
• 31:17
  because they were creating bit kind of didn't really have and
• 31:19
  selling them on the market, right?
• 31:23
  And, and I, and that, that price manipulation will certainly
• 31:27
  happen in a cloud world were in today and they will try it.
• 31:31
  The question is, will it work, considering the fact that a lot
• 31:34
  of polar's are holding their Bitcoin?
• 31:38
  And we're, we do have other like the secondary Market of
• 31:42
  peer-to-peer Bitcoin trading as well, that has different
• 31:46
  opinion, but prices can be manipulated, especially if you
• 31:49
  have a money printer on your side.
• 31:51
  Now, I just don't know if there's enough custodial control
• 31:56
  to ensure an enabled oppressed manipulation.
• 32:00
  I also don't trust black, frock single did Larry Fink single
• 32:05
  bit. Yeah, yeah I think that's it.
• 32:12
  Really Yeah, I mean, in, by the way, just to be clear, I don't
• 32:17
  trust him either and he's been, he's been a big.
• 32:21
  He's, he's used the fact that he has so much, so many of these
• 32:26
  companies, right? Black Rock, like, has so many of
• 32:29
  these come like if you look at you go through Fortune 500 list
• 32:34
  and you go to the top, you know, stockholders of everything of
• 32:37
  Apple, Google, whatever you will see, black rock there.
• 32:40
  And he's used that power too. To push, push the ESG, agenda
• 32:45
  hard, like, Larry, Larry. Fink was a big proponent of
• 32:49
  that, right? And then you kind of think about
• 32:52
  it. You're like, you know, Bitcoin
• 32:54
  kind of goes against this, this agenda in a way.
• 32:59
  And then, you know, you know, it makes you think, but at the same
• 33:03
  time, I just think incentives, right?
• 33:06
  I think incentives. I think American Hollow said it
• 33:08
  best like no one's better than their incentives and I think
• 33:11
  Bitcoins incentives are This table.
• 33:13
  And if you're looking at it from black rocks perspective, and
• 33:17
  then you see Bank of America, get involved, you see Fidelity,
• 33:20
  get involved right? You're looking at that and
• 33:23
  you're like, we might have to get at.
• 33:25
  We might have to get in front of this thing and I hope you're
• 33:29
  right. Make, I hope that, you know,
• 33:31
  they aren't able to do it because, you know, the ability
• 33:34
  for because of how easy it is for the individual to take self
• 33:37
  custody, right? So and it's instantaneous it's
• 33:40
  not like, okay send me my 10 million dollars worth of gold.
• 33:43
  Old please, you know and with the armored cars and whatever
• 33:46
  Bitcoin is, it's a lot easier and then hopefully, you know,
• 33:49
  they aren't able to do what they've done in the past.
• 33:53
  Anyways, Opti. What are your thoughts on all
• 33:55
  this brother and then we'll move on to the culture and talk about
• 33:59
  geyser. Yeah.
• 34:00
  Well, first, it's a trust and not an ETF, and I'm no expert on
• 34:03
  the, oh, no. And so I so apparently,
• 34:06
  apparently, I thought that too, but actually Corey tweeted
• 34:11
  something about it. Last night and he said this was
• 34:15
  13 hours ago. Corey says it's okay to call it
• 34:18
  an ETF guys Securities Act of 1933 filing under form s-1 not
• 34:24
  form and one a will trade on an exchange and be redeemable to
• 34:28
  the issue issuer, way better than gbtc now.
• 34:32
  We'll wait to see if the SEC approves BlackRock spot Bitcoin
• 34:35
  ETF. So, yeah, so awesome.
• 34:38
  Awesome. And it is apparently, and we'll
• 34:41
  leave the gbtc aside. We won't talk.
• 34:43
  About that today because I think there is an interesting lead
• 34:45
  there, but I think this is almost guaranteed to get past
• 34:49
  considering it is Blackrock. And I think I saw somewhere on
• 34:52
  Twitter that said, like 90% of their filings get passed.
• 34:56
  So look obviously this is bullish for Bitcoin in in some
• 35:00
  sense. Well in many sense legitimizing
• 35:02
  Bitcoin in the eyes of Trad Phi and then of course black Black
• 35:06
  Rock has trillions of dollars under their assets but like
• 35:09
  yellow keeps saying but at what cost you know BlackRock are the
• 35:12
  bad guys in my Ian, they own everything and in many respects,
• 35:15
  this is the reason that Satoshi made Bitcoin in the first place
• 35:18
  is to get away from these Fiat games.
• 35:20
  So I am very conflicted on this. I'm a kind of agreeing with a
• 35:24
  lot of people in the chat saying, you know, fuck black
• 35:27
  rock back on a black rock owns any everything but I think this
• 35:31
  is one of those events that was probably inevitable.
• 35:35
  You know, there's a for many reasons you'd expect that this
• 35:39
  would happen eventually And maybe it's just a little too
• 35:44
  late. A little too little too late
• 35:46
  like make kind of made me think about the issuance rate of
• 35:49
  Bitcoin. What do we cover that number all
• 35:51
  the time? Like 92% of all Bitcoin is being
• 35:53
  held. So maybe most of the Bitcoin is
• 35:55
  already held in self custody and they won't ever be able to
• 35:59
  actually scoop up a meaningful amount of Bitcoin.
• 36:03
  But there is a lot of stuff in that official filing that is
• 36:07
  very concerning and of course you mentioned, one of them.
• 36:13
  Coinbase is the going to, I'm Ellen, is the Fiat bank, but I
• 36:17
  think the the part that most Bitcoin has latched onto is the
• 36:21
  idea that black rock will be able to pull their weight behind
• 36:26
  whatever contentious Fork they want.
• 36:28
  So it has this little clause in there that saying, they were use
• 36:32
  their discretion to determine which Fork is the real Fork.
• 36:35
  So, it will be interesting to see whether they try to Fork
• 36:39
  Bitcoin into like an ESG friendly for it.
• 36:42
  And People get duped into following that chain and I think
• 36:45
  Marty been asked a very good question and we kind of
• 36:48
  mentioned it here about Bitcoins.
• 36:50
  Incentives is, was this Black Rock Hand being forced by
• 36:56
  Bitcoin or, you know, are they trying to Corner the market?
• 37:01
  So it's one of these like, is this a chicken or an egg moment?
• 37:04
  But, you know, going further, we kind of touched on it with bit
• 37:08
  pain. It really does seem like the
• 37:11
  powers that be have stopped. Every other ETF attempt and to
• 37:15
  make sure that the Fiat overlords get the first spot
• 37:17
  Bitcoin ETF. So you know, it's a lot of red
• 37:20
  flags at least maybe it's just me being a paranoid Bitcoin.
• 37:23
  ER, and I just like, oh man, I don't know.
• 37:26
  I fundamentally don't trust Black Rock and it just makes me
• 37:30
  feel like men, you know, I do feel like this will pump our
• 37:34
  bags. Also kind of what make touch on
• 37:37
  as well. The concern about price
• 37:39
  suppression but it does legitimize Bitcoin.
• 37:42
  Of course, The Narrative of like the the institutions are coming.
• 37:46
  Well hey guys, we've been saying it for a while, they've been
• 37:49
  here and I don't think people really can't wrap their head
• 37:53
  around the idea of trillions of dollars.
• 37:56
  Like that's a shit ton of money you.
• 37:57
  So if they're putting their way around, you know, wherever
• 38:00
  they're putting their way and what they're trying to push, I
• 38:03
  don't know it just it really does seem like one of those
• 38:06
  truly terrifying moments is just like an average Bitcoin ER that
• 38:10
  will probably never see trillions of dollars.
• 38:12
  You know, but I hate being a defeatist so like I still think
• 38:16
  Bitcoins incentives, work. And again, I think most of the
• 38:20
  Bitcoin is in South custody and like what can we really do?
• 38:23
  And it's pretty much what we continuously do is try to
• 38:27
  educate people get people to hold Bitcoin in self custody and
• 38:30
  I think now is one of those important times to be.
• 38:33
  Like, look, if you aren't running a node right now, you
• 38:36
  should be doing that at this point because hey, we know that
• 38:40
  running a node in and of itself, doesn't Unless it has economic
• 38:43
  activity and if Black Rock runs a node and they're pushing
• 38:47
  trillions of dollars through that node, then yes.
• 38:49
  There contentious Fork will probably dwarf anything that all
• 38:54
  of us bitcoiners are doing and we've seen in the past.
• 38:56
  Of course, coinbase was one of the big you know, Nemesis in the
• 39:01
  fork Wars. Now they're going to be maybe
• 39:03
  one of the biggest custodians of Bitcoin and I don't know it just
• 39:08
  a lot of red flags and my alarms are going off in my head.
• 39:12
  I head, but also I think in the eyes of the average person, this
• 39:16
  does legitimize Bitcoin and obviously people will start to
• 39:20
  wake up and there will be a lot of money that gets funneled into
• 39:23
  Bitcoin. So I don't know.
• 39:25
  It's one of these like, man, I don't know it at what cost are
• 39:29
  we going to be absolutely bullish.
• 39:31
  But it does seem like the bear Market is over and we've seen
• 39:34
  this Playbook happen all the time.
• 39:36
  I mean you covered it in the beginning, Larry Fink's been in
• 39:39
  active anti Bitcoin ER and now He is endorsing Bitcoin.
• 39:44
  So it's one of those playbooks that we talk about all the time.
• 39:47
  Like I don't like Bitcoin. Let me fill my bags.
• 39:49
  And once my bags are packed, I love Bitcoin.
• 39:52
  And let's start this bull market.
• 39:53
  So man, I don't know we've seen this play but happen all the
• 39:56
  time. But I really do on one hand,
• 39:59
  feel like this was inevitable. And on the other hand it's like
• 40:02
  I still believe in Bitcoin and the incentive structures and I
• 40:06
  think Bitcoin will overcome this as well.
• 40:10
  It's just it's only one it's one of these things where like it's
• 40:12
  In time, we will see what happens and I don't know.
• 40:15
  I don't think we should get too too - here or too optimistic
• 40:19
  about it. I think this is something that
• 40:21
  we knew was going to happen at a certain point but there is a lot
• 40:24
  of fishy stuff, man. Just like genzler, Clearinghouse
• 40:26
  of the feline, overlords can get in, it's just I don't know.
• 40:30
  It makes me feel weird. It's like man, it's all a
• 40:32
  conspiracy. It's did I my time?
• 40:34
  You know, I'm the conspirators here.
• 40:36
  So, I'm just like, man, I don't know.
• 40:38
  The only thing that's true is Kaboom Rex.
• 40:42
  Oh, man. All right, everybody Opti you
• 40:44
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• 40:46
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• 40:51
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• 40:54
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• 40:57
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• 42:37
  the orange fill up. Anyways Opti no more delay.
• 42:40
  I'm really freaking excited to talk about guys are today II,
• 42:45
  kind of fan Boyd in the very beginning Mick, what you're
• 42:48
  doing is is extremely important and I'm really looking forward
• 42:53
  to this conversation. Yeah.
• 42:56
  Same here. Well, let's recap, let's recap
• 42:59
  for everyone. What exactly is geyser and why
• 43:02
  should the audience care about the project?
• 43:05
  Obviously, Niko's, a fanboy but let's do it again.
• 43:08
  Again, for people coming in late and for the people in the back.
• 43:13
  Right. So imagine Kickstarter, but on
• 43:16
  bitcoin, on Lightning, but because Bitcoin is global
• 43:21
  borderless. This platform is also borderless
• 43:24
  and Global, right? So it's the easiest way for
• 43:28
  anyone to Just Launch her ideas and and raise funds through the
• 43:33
  community. So again, it's, you know,
• 43:36
  there's different platforms out there that are emerging, you
• 43:38
  know, obviously now stirs an interesting career Call that
• 43:42
  enables tipping and things like that, but it was guys are really
• 43:46
  focused on ideas, right? And people that have an idea,
• 43:49
  have a project, sometimes a long-term project, they can put
• 43:54
  it out there, you know, sponsor and get community to support
• 43:58
  them by funding it. And at first, I was like is this
• 44:02
  going to happen like a bitcoiners going to actually
• 44:05
  want to spend their Bitcoin and you know my hunch was yes my
• 44:09
  hunch was people do want to support Causes of the care about
• 44:14
  within the Bitcoin ecosystem. They do want to spend our SATs
• 44:17
  to do want to contribute, and whilst I often, say this, while
• 44:22
  spending Bitcoin is painful sending SATs is joyful, because
• 44:27
  it's not the same experience with lightning.
• 44:29
  It's so easy. Sending money quickly, instantly
• 44:33
  border Loosely cheaply is one thing and then sending funds on
• 44:38
  chain, which are, you know, heavy sometimes, they call
• 44:40
  storage is a whole different. Experience.
• 44:42
  And so our bet was with lightning, you can create a send
• 44:46
  funds on chain as well, but we were really, you know, initially
• 44:50
  mostly lightning - now we're, you know, fully Bitcoin and
• 44:53
  lightning native and that's sort of the idea, right?
• 44:57
  You, you launch your idea people sunsets from all over the world
• 45:01
  and let me tell you one of the key projects themes that exists
• 45:05
  on Geyser is education. We all care so much as
• 45:10
  bitcoiners for Bitcoin education.
• 45:12
  Spreading Bitcoin education all over the world wherever it be.
• 45:17
  And so we're seeing most projects being in some shape or
• 45:21
  form being related to education. If you're a Bitcoin ER and you
• 45:24
  have your future job, you can contribute by just supporting
• 45:27
  these projects by donating. You can even purchase items from
• 45:31
  these projects that are selling items or you can actually put
• 45:35
  out there, your project, your idea and and start contributing
• 45:39
  to the ecosystem and I think this is one of the other key.
• 45:42
  In size that we had early on which rose Bitcoin is something
• 45:46
  that we all feel passionate about.
• 45:47
  So we all have skills will have passions.
• 45:50
  So for example, we see people that are football fans, football
• 45:53
  players and bitcoiners that aside to kind of what we bring
• 45:57
  those two passions together and so they go out there and do
• 46:00
  their football club and call it Bitcoin Ballers.
• 46:03
  Shout out to to juiciest and create a project that is focused
• 46:07
  on bitcoin for the football community in the UK, right?
• 46:12
  You see this all on and on right?
• 46:14
  See artists are like I love Bitcoin, I'm an artist.
• 46:16
  I want to contribute to the space I'm going to do a comic
• 46:18
  book. I am a fiction writer and I love
• 46:22
  Bitcoin. Let me write a story about it.
• 46:24
  I'm a filmmaker and I want to make a film or a documentary
• 46:28
  about Bitcoin on and on you know creative Enterprises educational
• 46:32
  projects and Community project. You know, people that are like
• 46:36
  okay I want to create my own meet up.
• 46:38
  I'm going to create one of the big one right now is Kansas
• 46:41
  City. Shout out to the guys in Kansas
• 46:43
  City. I have a really cool, very big
• 46:46
  meet up and they get community contribute towards it to buy
• 46:48
  beers to give SATs back away within the community.
• 46:53
  So it's really just a really easy platform for people to put
• 46:57
  their ideas out there and get support from the community,
• 47:00
  really community-centered crowdfunding that is easy to do.
• 47:04
  So you plug in your lightning address and you're good to go.
• 47:06
  You can also plug in your node in which case it's free to use
• 47:09
  geyser. Using a lightning address is We
• 47:12
  tried a 2% fee per transaction but that's really about it.
• 47:16
  We're not custodial funds, go straight to the Creator.
• 47:20
  So we cannot censor, we cannot freeze.
• 47:23
  Obviously we're still a platform.
• 47:25
  So if there's projects that don't align with our, with our,
• 47:29
  you know, ethos or training cell secure, illegal Securities, we
• 47:32
  will have to close those projects down, we have to so,
• 47:36
  you know. So as a company, be careful and
• 47:40
  you know, regulated But what's important for us is that the
• 47:43
  funds go straight to the creators of the what happens
• 47:45
  with the trucker's could not have happened on Geyser?
• 47:47
  We do not hold funds. Again, this is part of the key
• 47:51
  ethos that, that we have. So yeah, hopefully that answers
• 47:54
  a few questions, but how do you take some more?
• 47:56
  You answered all the questions that I had for you but let's
• 48:00
  let's look for the future because the the one of the one
• 48:11
  of the He's about GoFundMe, right?
• 48:14
  Was when the Canadian truckers protests happened, what
• 48:18
  happened? The Canadian government stepped
• 48:20
  in and they said, no, no, you know, you can't donate to people
• 48:26
  that we don't agree with so and then this functions a little bit
• 48:32
  differently, right? Because it's peer-to-peer.
• 48:34
  So, like, technically, they could go after the platform but
• 48:36
  they can't take the money, right?
• 48:38
  And I think that's really the, the, you know, The the this
• 48:43
  something that I love about your platform so also make is this is
• 48:47
  this a for-profit company? I'm assuming it is, right?
• 48:50
  Yeah. Absolutely.
• 48:51
  We're C Corp base in the u.s. you know we still think that we
• 48:55
  can take on the big platforms that are out there.
• 48:58
  You know, GoFundMe like Kickstarter and just focus on a
• 49:02
  Bitcoin, only model, gotcha, and then so and then so you take a
• 49:06
  percentage of the SATs that are donated.
• 49:09
  How does that? What's the, what's the technical
• 49:11
  stuff? Yeah, And that because you said
• 49:13
  it's peer-to-peer. So how does that work?
• 49:15
  Yeah, that's a really good question.
• 49:17
  So so if you're a Creator and you want to create a project,
• 49:19
  you can, you can you can do two things.
• 49:21
  You can either connect your node in which case the funds go
• 49:25
  straight to your node and we don't even touch them and we
• 49:27
  don't take any fees. So that's that's the option one
• 49:30
  and so if you're not a runner, it's a no-brainer critical to
• 49:32
  guys because it's free to use and an option two is you plug in
• 49:36
  your lightning address. And then we forward all the SATs
• 49:40
  directly to your, to your lightning.
• 49:42
  Address. And in that case, we take a 2%
• 49:45
  fee just obviously to maintain the node and operation costs and
• 49:49
  all and all are our costs. And the way that we do that
• 49:54
  technically is by using these hottel invoices.
• 49:57
  So basically makes it even more noncustodial because we don't
• 50:02
  actually ever custody or funds not even for a second.
• 50:06
  What we do is that we send the funds over to the creator of the
• 50:09
  project to the receiver and then we take the money from the
• 50:13
  funder. It's really smart interesting.
• 50:16
  Smart Contra that was created on Lightning called hottel invoice.
• 50:19
  That enables us to kind of forward SATs in a noncustodial
• 50:23
  way. Gotcha.
• 50:25
  This is, it is one more question on this side, not to cut you off
• 50:29
  Nico. But can people donate
• 50:30
  anonymously or their identities necessarily attached to their
• 50:34
  donations or what's going on here.
• 50:36
  Another really good question, so you can donate anonymously.
• 50:40
  Absolutely. If you want to purchase a
• 50:42
  reward, sometimes you can buy it by things, some of the projects
• 50:46
  sell items. In that case, you will have to
• 50:49
  do anything. You have to do is drop your
• 50:50
  email in order to kind of maintain that connection because
• 50:54
  Have to do the, the the seller, so that you may get the
• 50:58
  postcode, or something like that.
• 51:01
  And then if you're, but if you're creating a project, you
• 51:04
  do need to tie your identity. So you need to login, you those
• 51:07
  Twitter Noster, which is a lot more sense of shock resistant
• 51:12
  and or lightning, addresses actually as well assume.
• 51:17
  And, and the reason for that is that we, the trust element is
• 51:21
  important, right? People will fund you.
• 51:23
  If they, if they That you're a real person.
• 51:25
  If you claim to be a time back, people are not going to, you
• 51:28
  know, people might fall for it, right.
• 51:30
  But we need to, we need to have a system of web of trust model
• 51:35
  where people can find you because, you know, Nico is Nico
• 51:38
  and, you know, yeah, you're right.
• 51:42
  So it does a key element that we thought we would maintain.
• 51:45
  So that the social layer is important here as well.
• 51:49
  Abdi, when are we making a geyser, bro?
• 51:51
  I don't know. It seems like we got to do it
• 51:53
  now, bro. We got to do it.
• 51:54
  I have a plan. I know Ben's on there, right?
• 51:57
  I'm pretty sure bets on their hands on it.
• 51:59
  We've got a few people and look, I think podcasters for
• 52:02
  podcasters. I think it's been, you know,
• 52:04
  quite growing growing quite a loss.
• 52:05
  Actually. If you click on podcasts, you'll
• 52:08
  see it on there. There's quite a few podcasters
• 52:10
  in there. Okay, I like science.
• 52:13
  So it said I can do three. So here we go.
• 52:15
  Here we go. Are you so with podcasts?
• 52:19
  I think actually two bits idiots.
• 52:21
  Podcast won the grant. Last actually, I think they've
• 52:23
  created a Projects as well. So if you click on their
• 52:26
  profile, you can actually see the different projects of this
• 52:30
  created. Yeah, that's the one.
• 52:33
  So I think with the kids are home, addition, we actually won
• 52:35
  the leaderboard for last week for, for top of kids, art
• 52:41
  competition. So it's really trying to gamify,
• 52:45
  making a great experience, quitting and leaderboard and
• 52:47
  also, adding tooling. So, for now, what you can do is
• 52:49
  you can write entries, which are like long-form articles, you can
• 52:54
  Tad Milestones, but also looking forward.
• 52:58
  We're looking to add more functionalities that we're still
• 53:01
  exploring, like example, adding events rise, with the events,
• 53:04
  could be a physical location, but it could also be like, you
• 53:06
  know, a stream or it could be something else.
• 53:11
  I, and then also posts, right? The ability to actually write
• 53:14
  updates or posts so it functions like a bit.
• 53:17
  Like you said, you know, it's for creators that have an idea
• 53:20
  that they want to happen, but it can also exist within the Folio
• 53:25
  of a company creator that wants to put their work out there.
• 53:29
  And obviously that rewards you can sell things, you know, merch
• 53:32
  and things like that. And I think we're going to be
• 53:35
  working quite a bit on the reward side in order to make to
• 53:38
  integrate, pull shipping to make it easy for people to buy things
• 53:42
  in a still in a censorship resistance way.
• 53:44
  So we will not like custody any any information around your
• 53:48
  address but you still be able to receive things in your, in your
• 53:52
  home as well. Yeah, there's a lot of exciting
• 53:56
  things that we're looking to get as well in the future.
• 53:58
  So it might be turning into a Marketplace as well.
• 54:01
  It's just not, not only like a Kickstarter funding platform.
• 54:05
  Yeah. I mean like there's only so much
• 54:08
  that a platform can actually do, right?
• 54:11
  So you know, we wouldn't be able to compete, you know, with with
• 54:15
  platform that is entirely focused on a Marketplace.
• 54:18
  We, you can't sell things on Geyser and it's still, we can
• 54:22
  improve the the marketplace experience.
• 54:24
  But it does have to still be focused on that on that project
• 54:28
  or that idea of a creator of the say.
• 54:30
  So yeah, I think you're kind of right?
• 54:33
  Although it you'll not ever find everything on Geyser.
• 54:36
  I think it'll be very so focused on kind of crowdfunding ideas.
• 54:41
  Awesome. What was your what's one of your
• 54:43
  most more? I don't know.
• 54:45
  Proud achievements that you got funded through geyser.
• 54:49
  So actually on the right side you see project leader board.
• 54:51
  You see if you click all time you can you can see that the top
• 54:54
  project so far. So the top part so far by far is
• 54:57
  a Bitcoin trading cards with 2.1 Bitcoin funded and obviously
• 55:03
  this project is like incredible. I was always bullish about
• 55:06
  Bitcoin trading cards but it is it is blowing my mind.
• 55:10
  Even further, right? So I hadn't received 180
• 55:14
  individual contributions and what they do is of these sell
• 55:17
  these like Pokemon like create a trading card Collectibles that
• 55:21
  are about focus on bitcoin and Bitcoin culture and they're
• 55:24
  incredibly exciting to play in open and share and trade.
• 55:30
  Shout out to a laden who's leading in as an incredible work
• 55:34
  already created there. There s their second series and
• 55:40
  it's Good like really records anyone to check it out.
• 55:45
  Yeah, Bobby. I love a lot and I love what
• 55:47
  they're doing with with Bitcoin trading cards.
• 55:50
  We're going to have them back on the show very, very soon.
• 55:53
  They released its the second series, right?
• 55:57
  The second series are released and then their work for my
• 55:59
  understanding. They're working on the third
• 56:01
  series. Super.
• 56:02
  Super cool. Man, I am I'm extremely bullish
• 56:06
  on this project specially when Government start to crack down
• 56:12
  and stuff, you know, because it's just it's what you said.
• 56:16
  It's unsensible, its peer to peer.
• 56:19
  Does that worry you a little bit to right?
• 56:22
  Where, you know, instead of GoFundMe people go to geyser to
• 56:26
  start raising money instead, is that something that I'm sure
• 56:30
  you've thought about this? Yeah, I mean again the the worst
• 56:34
  I can always happen is that we the beautiful thing is that we
• 56:37
  cannot take any funds and that makes us so much more more more
• 56:40
  comfortable. Now, if someone comes up and
• 56:43
  starts to create on want to create a militia on Geyser, then
• 56:46
  you know, we can't afford to allow that.
• 56:48
  Like and we do have a terms and condition and, and so far so
• 56:52
  good. And 99% of brought in fact, so
• 56:55
  far every project has actually existed within our terms.
• 57:00
  And yeah, if you want to create An entirely censorship resistant
• 57:05
  crowdfunding platform. Then maybe we would refer you to
• 57:09
  be dissipate server where you run your note and you receive
• 57:11
  all the funds and there is no interface, you know, platform
• 57:14
  that can be sensory, so absolutely.
• 57:17
  But I think we're more in tune with, you know, Bitcoin as a
• 57:21
  peaceful Revolution, right than that.
• 57:24
  Anything else now, are we going to have issues?
• 57:26
  Yeah, perhaps on the line that there will be but, you know, we
• 57:30
  try to maintain the Bitcoin has as much as possible.
• 57:32
  Awesome. But also focusing on bitcoin
• 57:34
  being an accessible tool for the world and also we do have plans
• 57:39
  to explore more natively on sensible solutions that are more
• 57:47
  Nasser based as well. But that would be, I think a
• 57:50
  separate thing because guys are as it is now I think has an
• 57:54
  incredible potential but as a tool that can go mainstream that
• 57:58
  yeah we'll have some of those those liabilities but You know,
• 58:03
  we are, we are, you know, we are we have the ethos, you know,
• 58:07
  every Bitcoin investor, every Star, every geyser investor has
• 58:10
  been Bitcoin. Only, you know, we really focus
• 58:14
  on bitcoin, only investors the board of your Bitcoin only.
• 58:17
  So, you know, we have the backing of the community and you
• 58:20
  know, that's how us for how we approach it.
• 58:22
  Awesome man. Well dude, all the power to you,
• 58:25
  man. Very, very cool stuff.
• 58:27
  Incredibly important project especially, you know, coming
• 58:30
  from the perspective. As a constant Creator and will
• 58:34
  spin up. So hopefully soon a simply
• 58:36
  Bitcoin geyser and will be on there.
• 58:38
  And yeah, anyways, Opti no more delay.
• 58:42
  This jump straight into the know, it did, that was just a
• 58:46
  culture. We're gonna do the mean review,
• 58:47
  kaboom. The daily meme review brought to
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  you by Kaboom racks. I get this question all the
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  Dem mix probably like what the fuck is going on?
• 59:30
  Why did I agree to? This is the mean review.
• 59:34
  This is your favorite portion of the show everyone wonders
• 59:37
  whether they miss the meme review or not.
• 59:39
  Now, you just gotta wait till the very end to get to the meme.
• 59:42
  As we say every single day, tweet to the bullets, meme to
• 59:45
  the artillery and it is becoming very, very clear.
• 59:48
  We are in an information War right now.
• 59:51
  So continue to educate continue to get the cause of action out
• 59:54
  there and continue to build the morale up of your friend and
• 59:58
  your family out there with the funnies.
• 1:00:00
  Anyways. Dropping me move, you score in
• 1:00:03
  the chat once we cover hours live so that we can get yours
• 1:00:07
  red on the show. This first one, shouts out to
• 1:00:09
  American Honda. If you are on the spaces
• 1:00:11
  yesterday we were joking about this mean but I had to bring it
• 1:00:15
  up here today. Considering I knew we were going
• 1:00:16
  to be talking about Black Rock and he Does deer at BlackRock, I
• 1:00:20
  hear you come to bargain. My price is 25 million per corn
• 1:00:23
  and corn. Yeah, / corn.
• 1:00:25
  And as always remember, today's price is not tomorrow's price
• 1:00:29
  and you can see here BlackRock as his giant Kraken and we have
• 1:00:33
  or octopus. I don't know what the difference
• 1:00:34
  is. We got a hard layer here with
• 1:00:36
  his keys in hand, his Bitcoin, in self, custody fighting, The
• 1:00:44
  the Leviathan that is black rock but shots out the wine here.
• 1:00:46
  My price is a medium sized Planet.
• 1:00:48
  I agree, I agree. All right, this next one again,
• 1:00:51
  on the same thread, a lot of these are Black Rock related on
• 1:00:54
  the same side, we got James lavish and he goes, there are
• 1:00:56
  whales and then there are Black Rock Wales and you can see here,
• 1:01:00
  BlackRock as the Behemoth whale, and we have the OG whales
• 1:01:04
  looking absolutely tiny in comparison again, guys.
• 1:01:08
  I know big numbers are hard, but really try to wrap your mind
• 1:01:12
  around How much 10 trillion dollars really is.
• 1:01:16
  I really don't think you guys are bullish enough and also
• 1:01:19
  probably not terrified enough. Okay.
• 1:01:21
  This next one is by our boy, Pedro, AKA a tree tweet on
• 1:01:26
  Twitter and this is the Spider-Man Meme and Lois Lane.
• 1:01:30
  And I forget what Peter Parker. Because, tell me the truth, I'm
• 1:01:34
  I'm ready to hear it. And Spider-Man goes a Bitcoin
• 1:01:37
  ETF, would just be another shit coin, and she's crying again.
• 1:01:43
  Next one, we asked yesterday the pole is not done but is a spot
• 1:01:47
  ETF good for Bitcoin. 66 percent said, yes. 33.9% said no and
• 1:01:53
  this is almost a typically relevant with a thousand votes.
• 1:01:56
  Anyways, well love BTC on Twitter goes is this good for
• 1:01:59
  Bitcoin and yes, everything is good for Bitcoin.
• 1:02:03
  You guys already know. Okay, this next one is by a boy,
• 1:02:06
  the BTC therapist and he goes, I'm never selling my Bitcoin, do
• 1:02:09
  not sell your Bitcoin to Black Rock and this is the classic
• 1:02:12
  corn. Farmer me mangas when Black Rock
• 1:02:14
  CTF is approved the plebs. And you can see back here is a
• 1:02:18
  giant green candle with the Bitcoin logo on it.
• 1:02:20
  And it goes, it ain't much, but it's a million dollars.
• 1:02:23
  This is the way. Okay again on the Black Rock
• 1:02:27
  theme I really like this one. We got Francis pull it this
• 1:02:30
  one's a little more meta theme meta Meme here for you guys
• 1:02:32
  because Black Rock in 10 years. We really want your Bitcoins.
• 1:02:35
  Will you take 2.5 million dollars a piece and Bitcoin
• 1:02:38
  maximalist. And you can see these little
• 1:02:40
  houses in between these Giants. Scrapers in Manhattan.
• 1:02:44
  I'm guessing there. These are all ince's not just
• 1:02:46
  only in Manhattan. I guess we got a house next to
• 1:02:49
  these big corporations buildings.
• 1:02:51
  We got this little house. Next to the sky risers and again
• 1:02:55
  on the same theme they're going to come and ask you for a price
• 1:03:00
  eventually you hard lers. Got a hold out.
• 1:03:03
  I really like how hot it was. Putting it in our spaces.
• 1:03:05
  Yesterday, there will be a Jato by out.
• 1:03:08
  Well you make it past the Jato by out.
• 1:03:11
  Anyways, this next team is by Mac Maxi's club and it goes for
• 1:03:13
  28 Fudd, question, mark and we got the classic riding a bicycle
• 1:03:18
  meme template. We got Maxis with the Fudd and
• 1:03:22
  the Fudd. Instead of making the bike, go
• 1:03:25
  over its head and do it in. Do it just eats the fun Bitcoin
• 1:03:29
  Maxi eating the fighter right Nico.
• 1:03:30
  This next one was a fan Edition so I'm pretty sure this one's
• 1:03:39
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  Anyways, Mick. What would you give those memes.
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  Pretty good in terms of what item.
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  I don't know how much with me unfortunately.
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  Oh, that is that is the best score?
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  So it's like it's just a bad one.
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  It's a red, and the cross out BlackRock Meta, Meta score.
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  All right, all right, everybody again before we get to the meme
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  In the chat drive him to do it, dick.
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  Boom racks. All right.
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