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- 0:07Speaker 1: Welcome to the Red Solar Traveler podcast. Today, our mission
- 0:12Speaker 1: is to ask you to sit with us, to really reflect.
- 0:14Speaker 1: We are analyzing a profound piece of writing by Louis
- 0:17Speaker 1: regarding the Flight 93 National Memorial in Pennsylvania.
- 0:21Speaker 2: Right. And it's an incredibly serious, heavily reflective subject. We
- 0:25Speaker 2: want you to look at this piece of history, you know,
- 0:28Speaker 2: not as some distant headlines, but as a series of
- 0:31Speaker 2: deliberate physical realities.
- 0:33Speaker 1: Exactly. And to do that, I want to pull you
- 0:35Speaker 1: out of whatever your cultural memory is, like watching the
- 0:37Speaker 1: news on a college TV or wherever you were. We
- 0:41Speaker 1: need to start physically on the tarmac at Newark.
- 0:43Speaker 2: Because that's where the entire physics of the event changed.
- 0:45Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. Flight 93 pushed back from gate 17 at
- 0:48Speaker 1: exactly 8.01 a.m. But the thing is, the wheels didn't
- 0:52Speaker 1: actually leave the runway then.
- 0:53Speaker 2: No, they didn't.
- 0:54Speaker 1: That Boeing 737 just sat there in heavy routine morning traffic.
- 0:58Speaker 1: It didn't physically lift into the air until 8.42 a.m.
- 1:01Speaker 2: And that delay, that mundane, frustrating 41-minute wait, it's everything.
- 1:05Speaker 2: Just four minutes after Flight 93 finally lifts off at 8.42 a.m.,
- 1:09Speaker 2: American 11 hits the North Tower.
- 1:11Speaker 1: Oh, wow. So they're just getting into the air. Right.
- 1:14Speaker 2: And the passengers on Flight 93 are completely unaware. I mean,
- 1:18Speaker 2: they're eating breakfast, settling in for a cross-country run to
- 1:21Speaker 2: San Francisco, 33 passengers, seven crew members, and four men
- 1:25Speaker 2: in first class who haven't made a single move yet.
- 1:28Speaker 1: It's just a chilling causal link when you think about it.
- 1:31Speaker 1: The stakes are set right there. No delay, no calls,
- 1:34Speaker 1: no vote.
- 1:35Speaker 2: That is the absolute crux of it.
- 1:36Speaker 1: If they had taken off on time, they would have
- 1:38Speaker 1: been over western Pennsylvania before the first plane ever hit
- 1:42Speaker 1: the tower. They would have been completely in the dark.
- 1:45Speaker 1: That 25-plus minute delay past schedule is the sole reason
- 1:49Speaker 1: anyone on board had a chance to alter history.
- 1:51Speaker 2: Because time was literally the only variable the hijackers couldn't control.
- 1:56Speaker 2: They had a rigid plan. But the tarmac delay completely
- 1:59Speaker 2: ruined their synchronization.
- 2:01Speaker 1: OK, let's unpack this. Because we have to move from
- 2:03Speaker 1: that stagnant, frustrating delay on the ground to the unforgiving
- 2:07Speaker 1: minute-by-minute clock up in the sky. Right.
- 2:09Speaker 2: Once they're in the air, time is just this relentless countdown.
- 2:13Speaker 1: Dictating the fate of everyone on board.
- 2:15Speaker 2: Exactly. So let's look at the morning clock. At 8.46 a.m.,
- 2:18Speaker 2: the North Tower is hit. Then at 9.03 a.m., the
- 2:20Speaker 2: South Tower is hit.
- 2:24Speaker 1: Airspace is descending into chaos.
- 2:27Speaker 2: Total, absolute chaos. But Flight 93 is still just flying
- 2:30Speaker 2: its normal route. It isn't until 9.28 a.m. that things change.
- 2:34Speaker 1: Over eastern Ohio.
- 2:35Speaker 2: Right, over eastern Ohio. Cleveland Center hears the cockpit transmission.
- 2:39Speaker 2: They hear someone shouting, Mayday! Hey, get out of here!
- 2:41Speaker 2: Get out of here!
- 2:42Speaker 1: Man, just hearing that timeline is heavy. And that's the
- 2:45Speaker 1: moment the hijackers take control and the plane violently turns southeast.
- 2:49Speaker 2: Cord, Washington.
- 2:50Speaker 1: Yes. And we should just state this clearly. Just once,
- 2:53Speaker 1: the most likely target was the Capitol building. It's really
- 2:56Speaker 1: the only building on the Mall that you can visually
- 2:58Speaker 1: spot from the air without complex navigation. Right.
- 3:01Speaker 2: And then just nine minutes after that cockpit transmission at
- 3:04Speaker 2: 937 a.m., the Pentagon is hit.
- 3:06Speaker 1: So three planes have hit buildings. The attack is fully realized.
- 3:10Speaker 2: It is. But on Flight 93, the mechanism of resistance
- 3:14Speaker 2: is just starting to take shape. And it takes shape
- 3:16Speaker 2: entirely through the in-flight phones.
- 3:18Speaker 1: Yeah, the phones. That is the crucial detail here. 13
- 3:22Speaker 1: people managed to make 37 calls.
- 3:25Speaker 2: Which is incredible when you think about the chaos in
- 3:27Speaker 2: that cabin.
- 3:27Speaker 1: I mean, when a hijacking happens, the hijackers weaponize isolation.
- 3:31Speaker 1: They try to create this complete information vacuum to make
- 3:35Speaker 1: themselves the only authority. But those phones acted like a
- 3:39Speaker 1: tether to reality.
- 3:41Speaker 2: They completely pierced that isolation.
- 3:42Speaker 1: Yeah, they pulled the truth right up into the cabin.
- 3:45Speaker 2: What's fascinating here is how that information caused a total
- 3:48Speaker 2: paradigm shift. Up until that morning, you have to remember,
- 3:52Speaker 2: the standard psychological protocol for a hijacking was compliance.
- 3:56Speaker 1: Just sit down and wait it out.
- 3:57Speaker 2: Right. It was always about leverage. You stay quiet, wait
- 4:01Speaker 2: to land somewhere like Cuba or Beirut, and let authorities negotiate.
- 4:05Speaker 2: Doing nothing was your best chance of survival.
- 4:08Speaker 1: But because of those 37 calls, they learned the other
- 4:11Speaker 1: planes weren't traditional hostage situations.
- 4:13Speaker 2: No, they learned they were weapons.
- 4:15Speaker 1: Which means sitting quietly meant certain death.
- 4:17Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 4:17Speaker 1: That completely breaks the leverage model.
- 4:20Speaker 2: It forces an unthinkable choice.
- 4:22Speaker 1: So around 9.57 a.m., because of that gathered intelligence, they
- 4:25Speaker 1: hold a Democratic vote. They organize and they come up
- 4:29Speaker 1: the aisle.
- 4:29Speaker 2: The psychological compression there is just staggering. To process your
- 4:33Speaker 2: own mortality and organize a counteroffensive in minutes.
- 4:36Speaker 1: And I want to be really clear about something. Culturally,
- 4:39Speaker 1: the phrase, let's roll... Became famous. It was everywhere, right
- 4:43Speaker 1: on bumper stickers and used by politicians.
- 4:45Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely everywhere.
- 4:46Speaker 1: But that phrase is not the thesis of what happened.
- 4:49Speaker 1: The true thesis is that collective democratic vote based on
- 4:53Speaker 1: the intelligence they gathered.
- 4:55Speaker 2: It was pure collective agency. They didn't wait to be saved.
- 4:58Speaker 2: And the result is etched right into the timeline. At 10.03
- 5:01Speaker 2: and 11 seconds, the 757 goes inverted into a field.
- 5:06Speaker 1: Going approximately 563 miles an hour. And the thing is,
- 5:10Speaker 1: there were 18 minutes of flying time remaining to Washington.
- 5:13Speaker 2: 18 minutes.
- 5:14Speaker 1: Because of that vote, they stopped it.
- 5:16Speaker 2: Which brings us to the actual physical aftermath, the geography
- 5:20Speaker 2: of it.
- 5:20Speaker 1: Yeah, we really need to separate the borough from the graves.
- 5:22Speaker 2: We do, because there's a huge public misconception about where
- 5:26Speaker 2: this happened.
- 5:26Speaker 1: The whole country uses the name Shanksville. But Shanksville is
- 5:30Speaker 1: just a borough of a few hundred people, a mile
- 5:32Speaker 1: and three quarters south of the impact. The plane did
- 5:35Speaker 1: not hit Main Street.
- 5:36Speaker 2: No, it hit a reclaimed strip mine field in Stony
- 5:39Speaker 2: Creek Township.
- 5:39Speaker 1: And that location dictates the whole reality of the site today,
- 5:43Speaker 1: which means we need to kill the crater myth.
- 5:46Speaker 2: We absolutely have to. When visitors arrive, they are conditioned
- 5:49Speaker 2: by war photography to expect this gaving, permanent wound in
- 5:53Speaker 2: the earth.
- 5:54Speaker 1: But I've got to ask, by filling it in, aren't
- 5:55Speaker 1: we sort of sanitizing the violence? I mean, why is
- 5:58Speaker 1: the reality of the site so different from what people expect?
- 6:01Speaker 2: Well, you have to separate cinematic conflict from biological reality.
- 6:05Speaker 2: When a plane hits reclaimed strip mine earth inverted at
- 6:08Speaker 2: 563 miles an hour, it doesn't just leave a crater.
- 6:12Speaker 2: The earth physically takes the wreckage in.
- 6:14Speaker 1: So it's essentially swallowed.
- 6:15Speaker 2: Exactly. First responders found a smoking crater initially, and the
- 6:19Speaker 2: FBI dug that site for 13 days for the investigation.
- 6:23Speaker 2: But by October 2001, the county coroner realized recovery was
- 6:28Speaker 2: virtually impossible.
- 6:29Speaker 1: The physics of the crash just didn't allow for it.
- 6:32Speaker 2: Right. So the coroner ordered the hole filled.
- 6:34Speaker 1: So when you stand at the Memorial Plaza today, you
- 6:36Speaker 1: do not see a crater. You see a restored meadow.
- 6:39Speaker 2: A very intentional landscape.
- 6:41Speaker 1: You look out and there's a hemlock tree line. And
- 6:43Speaker 1: in that line, there's a visible gap. They call it
- 6:46Speaker 1: the scar because over 80 damaged trees were removed from there.
- 6:50Speaker 2: And right at the edge of the impact site is
- 6:52Speaker 2: that boulder.
- 6:53Speaker 1: Yes, a 17.5-ton sandstone boulder set there in 2011, just
- 6:59Speaker 1: marking the exact spot.
- 7:00Speaker 2: And it's crucial for you, listening to this, to understand
- 7:03Speaker 2: that this field is a cemetery. The remains are still
- 7:06Speaker 2: on the ground.
- 7:07Speaker 1: Sacred ground boundaries. The general public simply does not walk
- 7:10Speaker 1: this field.
- 7:11Speaker 2: Never. You are kept at a very deliberate distance.
- 7:14Speaker 1: There is a ceremonial gate, but it only opens for
- 7:16Speaker 1: the families to walk the hemlock grove once a year.
- 7:19Speaker 2: On the morning of September 11.
- 7:21Speaker 1: So if the grave itself is closed off and restored,
- 7:25Speaker 1: how do you design a memorial that actually conveys the.
- 7:28Speaker 2: Weight of it? It requires a profound architecture of absence
- 7:31Speaker 2: and memory. And it took a lot of time. In 2002,
- 7:35Speaker 2: Congress designated it a national memorial.
- 7:38Speaker 1: But they didn't really start opening the major elements until
- 7:41Speaker 1: much later.
- 7:41Speaker 2: Right. In 2011, the Wall of Names finally opened.
- 7:45Speaker 1: And I want to explicitly point out, there are 40
- 7:48Speaker 1: polished white marble slabs on that wall. 40, not 44.
- 7:51Speaker 2: That's a huge point. The hijackers are entirely excluded from
- 7:55Speaker 2: the memorialization.
- 7:56Speaker 1: It's purely a living count of the passengers and crew. Then,
- 8:00Speaker 1: moving down the timeline, in 2015, the Visitor Center opens.
- 8:04Speaker 2: Which is an incredible piece of design.
- 8:06Speaker 1: Here's where it gets really interesting. The Visitor Center sits
- 8:09Speaker 1: on a ridge, and the architects cut it so the
- 8:12Speaker 1: actual flight path of the plane runs directly through the building.
- 8:15Speaker 2: You're physically walking the final trajectory.
- 8:17Speaker 1: Yeah, and before you see the field, you walk along
- 8:20Speaker 1: this black granite strip. And it marks the earlier impact times. 8.46, 9.03, 9.37.
- 8:25Speaker 2: So you're feeling time run out before you even step inside.
- 8:30Speaker 1: Exactly. And then the architecture literally squeezes you. You're compressed
- 8:34Speaker 1: between two tall, stark walls that read as wings. You
- 8:38Speaker 1: feel this claustrophobia before it finally releases you to the
- 8:40Speaker 1: view of the field.
- 8:41Speaker 2: Louis wrote that the architecture does the work of adjectives there.
- 8:44Speaker 1: It really does. You feel it in your body.
- 8:46Speaker 2: And then there's the sound of the site. In 2018,
- 8:49Speaker 2: They dedicated the Tower of Voices at the Gateway on
- 8:52Speaker 2: US 30.
- 8:52Speaker 1: That's the 93-foot concrete tower, right?
- 8:55Speaker 2: Right. And by 2020, the 40 individual aluminum chimes within
- 8:59Speaker 2: it were completed. These are massive, 5 to 10 feet long,
- 9:04Speaker 2: tuned to separate notes.
- 9:05Speaker 1: Just reacting to the wind.
- 9:07Speaker 2: Specifically, built to sound in 12 to 15 mile-an-hour winds.
- 9:11Speaker 2: And on a working wind day, it is the only
- 9:13Speaker 2: sound the site wants you to hear.
- 9:15Speaker 1: Louis actually mentioned visiting the site in October during COVID,
- 9:19Speaker 1: and he talked about how quiet it was.
- 9:21Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just this brief texture of what the site
- 9:23Speaker 2: feels like on a normal day.
- 9:25Speaker 1: Right, because September 11th is a vastly different, heavily populated
- 9:28Speaker 1: morning with all the ceremonies. But on a random Tuesday,
- 9:32Speaker 1: it's just the wind and those chimes.
- 9:34Speaker 2: If we connect this to the bigger picture, it really
- 9:37Speaker 2: highlights how different this memorial is from New York.
- 9:39Speaker 1: Right, Louis has that phrase, they put two voids where
- 9:42Speaker 1: the tower stood.
- 9:43Speaker 2: Which... And we have to be careful not to rank
- 9:45Speaker 2: these sites. They are just different architectural languages of grief.
- 9:48Speaker 1: Totally. New York built two massive pools over footprints in
- 9:52Speaker 1: a very bustling city.
- 9:53Speaker 2: An urban void. But Shanksville kept the field. The design
- 9:57Speaker 2: refuses to pretend the passengers aren't still in it.
- 10:00Speaker 1: So New York is two voids, while this is 40
- 10:03Speaker 1: names above a rural field that you cannot walk.
- 10:05Speaker 2: It's just a completely different confrontation with loss.
- 10:08Speaker 1: So what does this all mean? When we pull back,
- 10:11Speaker 1: we've gone from a mundane 25-minute delay on a tarmac
- 10:15Speaker 1: in Newark to a frantic Democratic boat in the sky
- 10:18Speaker 1: in Based on 37 phone calls.
- 10:20Speaker 2: To a permanent quiet grave in a Pennsylvania strip mine field.
- 10:24Speaker 1: Marked by 40 names and windblown chimes.
- 10:27Speaker 2: And that leaves us with a final thought. Something I
- 10:30Speaker 2: really want you to carry with you.
- 10:31Speaker 1: What's that?
- 10:32Speaker 2: The longer time passes, the easier it becomes to view
- 10:35Speaker 2: 911 strictly as historical video footage. Just something you watch
- 10:38Speaker 2: on a screen. But this site refuses to let you
- 10:41Speaker 2: do that.
- 10:42Speaker 1: Because it's so physical.
- 10:43Speaker 2: Exactly. When you stand on that ridge looking at the 17.5
- 10:46Speaker 2: ton boulder. You are staring at the physical manifestation of
- 10:50Speaker 2: the absolute last decision 40 people made with the information
- 10:54Speaker 2: they had.
- 10:54Speaker 1: An ultimate act of collective agency.
- 10:57Speaker 2: An act that saved a capital they would never reach.
- 11:00Speaker 1: And I think that's the real challenge for you, the listener.
- 11:03Speaker 1: We live in a time where we're flooded with information
- 11:06Speaker 1: and it often just paralyzes us, right? We can't even
- 11:08Speaker 1: agree on facts. But on that morning, 37 calls gave
- 11:13Speaker 1: strangers the most terrifying facts possible.
- 11:15Speaker 2: And they didn't freeze.
- 11:16Speaker 1: No. They processed the truth in minutes, organized a vote,
- 11:20Speaker 1: and acted collectively. It forces you to ask yourself if,
- 11:23Speaker 1: faced with undeniable truth, we are still capable of that
- 11:26Speaker 1: kind of absolute unified clarity today.