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Welcome to drive through episode number 19.
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This is our monthly recap where we put together a menu of automotive,
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motorsport, and random car adjacent news.
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Now let's pull up to window number one for some automotive news.
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Before we head into automotive news, I want to make a special announcement.
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Guess what folks?
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This is the last episode Of season two, not the last episode of the show, but the
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last episode of season two, 56 episodes into this season, we are wrapping it up
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with drive through episode number 19.
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And as always, we aimed please.
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So it's going to be a fun one.
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And we'll talk more about what season two look like in case you're tuning in maybe
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for the first time and don't know, or maybe miss some episodes along the way.
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I think we got to start off this month, following up.
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With last month.
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And so, you know, we talked a lot about cars that were becoming zombie cars and
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disappearing and in a number of station wagons that aren't being produced this
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year and next year and things like that.
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And we missed something really, really important vehicles that
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are still available in 2022 with manual transmissions.
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My one question is, can you still get a 2016 Dodge Dart with a manual transmission
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with a warranty that your local Dodge dealer I'm surprised by the M3 and the
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M4 because the previous generation, a lot of the reviews that came out about
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them said that the car was better.
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With the dual clutch, I guess the, the auto transmission
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setup compared to the manual.
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It said it was just a better driving experience.
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So I'm actually surprised that they are still catering to the enthusiast by
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putting the manual in these two cars.
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So clearly.
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Brad hasn't scrolled through the entire list if he's being shocked
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off the bat, shocked off the bat with that one, because I didn't know
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the Chevy spark came as a manual.
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Wait, isn't the Chevy sparky an electric only car?
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Is it a hybrid either way?
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That's weird.
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No, it's an econo box, right?
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It's the, it's the generation of the geo metro.
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You know that, that heritage, that, that there, the vault.
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The vault is the, is the little electric one.
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So you brought up the spark, the Camaro's on this list, the
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Challenger is on this list.
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But aren't all these cars headed to the graveyard?
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Didn't they stop production of the Camaro?
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So what, these are the ones that are, to your point about the Dodge Dart,
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the ones that are left over on the lot.
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In the article, there's an entire list of all these cars.
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There's actually 34 vehicles in 2022.
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I think that's pretty impressive.
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That still come with a manual transmission from the factory.
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I agree with you on the BMW, but there were rumors, not really rumors
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so much as complaints a couple of years ago by BMW owners saying,
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why did you get rid of the manual?
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You know, then you heard the other side of the coin BMW say, we're going
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to be the last ones with the manual.
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We're going to be the last ones, you know, with a petrol engine
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and all this kind of stuff.
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So.
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I don't know what's truth and what's not.
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I'm glad to see BMW sticking to offering a manual transmission.
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I will say it's better for the track, especially with
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the gyros and safety software.
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I've coached some of these M4s and stuff and tracks like Shenandoah.
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You know, you get up on an embankment and the car freaks out.
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It thinks it's flipping over shuts down at least, you know, with a manual,
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you can pop it in neutral, keep going.
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And it's not just dead in the middle of the track.
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Like I experienced with one of my students, I'd say things that did surprise
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me on this list were the two Cadillacs.
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See, y'all are boring with your things surprising you.
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I'm surprised to see that there are Mitsubishis!
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Are still being made here?
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Or, not made here, but being sold here?
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What's a Mitsubishi?
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I don't know what that is.
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Exactly!
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Y'all are getting hung up on Cadillac and Meredith Sennett.
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There is a Mitsub two Mitsubishis!
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And you can get a manual folks.
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What really surprises me is the Ford Bronco.
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I didn't realize I didn't know a manual like you, I knew the Jeeps.
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I mean, I had a couple of manual Jeeps, but I had no idea you could
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get the Bronco with the EcoBoost motor and the manual transmission.
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That is pretty surprising.
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I didn't, I didn't think that was the thing.
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Now, all the rest of these, the Hondas, the Hyundais, the GTIs and the
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Subarus, there's no surprise there.
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There's always going to be some car with a manual transmission,
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same with the Porsches, right?
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The 911 seems to always, you know, despite the PDK being better, there's always going
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to be a manual option for the enthusiasts, the car I'm most excited about on this
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list, because I want to go test drive one as soon as they come out is the Z.
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The spark.
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No, the Z 400, right?
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The Nissan.
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I think that's really cool.
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And at the dollar value that the Z is coming in at, that's
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going to be a driver's car.
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That's going to be an enthusiast car.
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And I'm really excited about that.
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I think the only other one that got my attention that was a little
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out of left field, and still in the realm of the Bronco and the Jeeps,
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was that you can get a Tacoma in 2022 with a manual transmission.
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Always, I think like the Wrangler, you'll always be able to get a manual Tacoma.
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As long as they make the Tacoma, I will say that there, there is a car that's
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not on this list that is sad panda.
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It's the, uh, the Corvette.
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It's a shame that they don't offer the Corvette or the manual transmission.
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We knew that the C8 we knew, but I mean, I wonder what cars were on this
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list before like the previous year, the year before that, that are no
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longer on the list and which, which ones of those are disappointing.
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You're right.
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And you know, we, we would need to do that comparison or maybe some
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of our listeners already know that information, but you know what?
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You're right about the Corvette.
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I didn't even dawn on me.
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I kept thinking maybe there was a manual C8 out there, but I guess there isn't.
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So again, some of this is.
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No surprise, like the Miatas and the Mini Coopers and stuff.
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And there are a few shockers on here to include the Mitsubishi
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that Tanya pointed out.
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Something else that we missed during the whole shuffle of last month in
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the Winter Recap, Road Track announced the 2022 Performance Car of the Year.
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At what point do they say what it is?
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There's like 15 cars listed.
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Let me break it down for you.
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This is classic TLDR too long.
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Didn't read.
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Even I got bored about a third of the way through this article and
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I was like, just get to the point.
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I found it.
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I'll get to the point.
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The winner was the 9 11.
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Woo ha, whatever.
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But if you look at this list of cars, it is such a just menagerie, just
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potpourri of different vehicles.
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It didn't make sense.
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How can you declare a winner?
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When on one end of the spectrum, you have the Volkswagen GTI and on the other
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side, you have the latest Lamborghini.
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And then all these cars in between like the Merc and the Cadillac
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and the Bentley, like whatever.
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Because this was no ordinary Porsche.
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As it says, it's God's own Porsche.
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Oh my God.
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Yeah, whatever.
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Much like the Consumer Reports stuff that comes out every year,
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when you enter the same car twice, aka the Burrs and the Furs, right?
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The 86, Subaru, and the Toyota as two separate entries in a contest
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like this, I'm like, yeah, you don't know what the hell you're doing.
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The same car, end of story.
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I think they put this list together.
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These were the only cars where manufacturers had microchips for them.
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So they were, these are the only cars they were able to deliver at the time.
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And I love how the Subaru BRZ weighs more than the Toyota GR 86.
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And it weighs more and costs less.
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So it's a better value.
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You get more for less money.
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Oh, what a mess.
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So which one's the winner?
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Which one's the winner?
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She said the nine 11.
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It was the Porsche.
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Yeah.
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And if you look at it from the hyper cars on one side or the super luxury
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cars, like the Bentley, you know, continental GT and all that stuff.
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And then the econo boxes basically on the other side, the Porsche sits
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in the middle, almost by itself.
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It's going to win.
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In almost every category between speed handling styling, all that kind of stuff.
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And it's like, was this really a fair fight?
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And the other thing I thought that wasn't fair about this article is we've got 2
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entries that are the same car and we're talking about performance vehicles.
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Let's let's call it what it is sports cars.
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There's not a single mention of a Miata on this list or the C8 Corvette.
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Exactly.
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And I'm like, what?
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So you replace one of the Burrs Furs with a Miata.
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You replace the GTI with a Corvette because it's the only
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hatchback hot hatch in this.
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It's a hot hatch.
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It's not a sports car.
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If they're trying to do sports cars.
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The GTI, I love the GTI.
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I have one.
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You have one.
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That will everybody we know has one.
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It's not a sports car though.
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No, it's a compact hatchback.
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It's cool.
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They're fun, but it's not, it doesn't fight in this fight.
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Right.
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Everything else on here is rear wheel drive.
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It's the only front wheel drive car.
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I'm like, I don't know, whatever.
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Oh, I would think the Bentley is all wheel drive.
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True.
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And the Lambo too.
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Rear wheel bias, right?
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So yeah, I agree with you though.
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The GTI doesn't fit for me.
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And the double burrs.
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Separated should be combined and then add the C8.
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In other news, we got to now talk about our showcase this month.
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And for the first time ever in the drive through, we have
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Ferrari as our showcase brand.
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So Tanya, let's talk about what's going on over our favorite
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manufacturer from Maranello.
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Apparently our friends at Ferrari, uh, you know, trying to keep up with the
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Joneses, even though they shouldn't.
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And I think they had alluded to this a while ago, but unfortunately.
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What could have just been a rumor and a concept is apparently coming to fruition.
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Say it ain't so, say it ain't so, but the Ferrari, SUV on its way.
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Yes, I did say the word SUV.
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And Ferrari in the same sentence.
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I have blasphemed.
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Didn't Ferrari's CEO over the last, like, decade say that
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they will never make an SUV?
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Never say never.
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This is the automotive equivalent.
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of when the roof on Notre Dame fell in.
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Like, we're, this is sacrilege.
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Ferrari's building an SUV.
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You're lying to me.
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I will say, based on the picture, its stance makes it look less SUV and more
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slightly smaller compact crossover.
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No, that's even worse!
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That's even what that means.
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It's a Fiat Multipla with a freaking Ferrari badge on it.
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At least if it was the Maserati rebranded or an Estelvio or
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something, I could get over it.
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But no.
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Compact crossover, Frank, get out of here.
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I mean, it's very much camouflaged to the point of they didn't
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put Vinyl camouflage on it.
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They literally have like car cover on it is all you can
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really see is the windshield.
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So the true body lines are hard to discern.
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However, it doesn't look like, you know, a Ford Explorer or something.
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Terrible.
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What are they calling this turd?
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The pure blood as it's translated.
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The Puro Sangue.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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The pure blood.
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Can you believe that?
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Can really, really.
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Real.
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That is, that's a terrible name for a Ferrari idea.
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This is Amos.
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This is, this is a bunch of the eye.
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This is like that company that we thought died.
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That's still around Mitsubishi naming their SUV.
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The eclipse.
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Anyone want to wager how much it's going to cost?
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100, 000.
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How much does a Lamborghini cost?
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And then add like a 50, 000 to it.
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So apparently this thing is going to be north of, well, it
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could start as high as 350, 000.
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What?
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Come on.
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So I can expect to see these in my kids schools parking lot.
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They make a lot of bespoke Ferraris, if there's truly this demand, which I'm
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curious to know, is there demand for like, are people clamoring to have an SUV?
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If not, they should have just made some bespoke ones.
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Like I could have lived with like, Oh, there's only three in the
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world, but not something worth.
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Ferrari owners are tired of driving their Porsche McCanns.
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That's that's what it is.
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And bed Yagas and whatever.
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All right.
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So they've lost their minds and it seems like there are a list of
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other things that they're trying.
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Ferrari is also busy reinventing the wheel, if you will, not the literal
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wheel, but the windshield wiper.
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So Tesla, look out, you got some competition to your laser beams.
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Are they partnering with Tesla?
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No, their idea is using compressed air across the windshield, which
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I like better than the laser beam
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because at least I'm not going to have like my retinas burned.
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Yes.
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The laser is not going to be that strong.
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They actually still plan to have a wiper blade.
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So it's this weird, like.
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Compressed air plus wiper blakes.
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They want a smaller blade.
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That's lower profile.
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That's not affecting their aerodynamics, which most of the days, the windshield
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wipers tucked down underneath, you know, the top of the hood kind of
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tucked in under the cowl anyway.
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So what, how is it really impacting your dynamics?
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I mean, if you're using them and you're going that fast, it doesn't matter.
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Anyway, you're losing speed.
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The last time, if your car is slippery enough, just like we
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talked about the Cybertruck.
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You don't need the windshield wipers put a little rain X on
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there and the uncompressed air as you're driving will dissipate
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the water off of your windshield.
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Here's the problem with this.
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This is literally cutting your nose off despite your face.
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We're going to develop this highly intricate compressed air
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miniature wiper blade system.
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to save on something totally idiotic and add 150 pounds of gizmos that'll
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break when I can go to Walmart and buy a regular wiper blade for 11 bucks.
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I mean this like anything else is just Then having an idea and what do you do
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when you have an idea you patent it so somebody else can't take it doesn't mean
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they're actually ever going to use it in this application but it precludes
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anybody else from doing it so I mean yes this is they're doing exactly what they
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should do now in 10 years if they actually do this we can criticize them more.
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I mean like I said before the patent trade office is full of bad ideas
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what I'm wondering though is You guys know what it sounds like when
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your wiper blades are like worn out.
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So what does it sound like when you're driving in the rain and your
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micro wiper blade is worn out and you've run out of compressed air?
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Is it like,
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it's nothing.
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Cause you creamed off the road.
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Cause you couldn't see what we're not discussing is how 99.
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999 percent of Ferrari drivers, their cars never see rain street.
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Or the rain or anything and never see the outside of a garage.
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So who is this wiper for?
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This is not the only thing they're patenting.
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Oh, really?
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So they're on a patent from me, a frenzy, a role, whatever forefront of innovation.
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And they will not be left behind just like they will not be left
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behind with this whole SUV thing.
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That's decades old, even though they're last, they're not going to be last on EVs.
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They are patenting.
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a battery layout for mid ship mounted batteries.
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Whenever they do unveil whatever EV they're working on, they want to retain
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the weight balance of their Ferraris today that are all mid engine, etc, etc.
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So they, some, I don't know enough about The battery placement and how it warrants
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the patents, but they're patenting the location, uh, or I guess the setup, the
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assembly of these batteries to be quote mid engine in their, in their cars.
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This is something I can get behind.
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This is something that makes sense outside of these other, just things
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that are complete lunacy, because if they can make the battery pack.
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Dimensionally fit in that space and way about the same as the petrol
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motor that they're pulling out with some sort of transaxle direct power
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to the rear wheels and all that.
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I think it makes sense because they're going to have a performance.
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EV something that can actually handle unlike a lot of these, you know, I get it.
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They do it low center of gravity and they try to disperse the weight across the car.
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But if they can make a one for one, what is Ferrari care about range?
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Because to Brad's point, these people are either maybe they're
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using them at the track.
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Driving to somewhere or they sit in the garage a lot of the time.
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So why not make something as close to the OE as possible?
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And lastly, in case you were now getting that little itch for all things, Ferrari,
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it was announced very recently director Michael Mann, if anyone's familiar with.
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His work.
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I'm not.
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He and I think the person who wrote script on the Italian job are collaborating
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for this director's passion project, which is a movie about Ferrari, the man.
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So this movie apparently is going to take place back in the
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fifties and be focused on Mr.
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Enzo himself.
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I like this idea.
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I looked at the cast photo and I thought this was an article for that
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new House of Gucci movie, because isn't it like the same people?
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Is this a sequel to that movie?
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Like, what is this?
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It's not the same people.
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It is the same main male character.
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So Adam Driver is again, Playing an Italian gentleman.
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He was playing Mr.
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Gucci and house of Gucci.
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Now he's going to play Enzo in this movie, but instead of Lady Gaga,
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we have Penelope Cruz playing, I guess his wife or whatever.
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The name I haven't heard in about 20 years.
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Yeah.
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She hasn't really done much, has she?
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Yeah.
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She, what was the last movie she was in?
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I can't, I can't remember vanilla sky.
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No, no.
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That pirates of the Caribbean movie.
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Oh, good one.
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Caribbean, the Caribbean, Caribbeanos.
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Well, before this turns into a, you know, Steve and Izzy show, shout out, we'll have
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to catch this one with them in the future.
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Whenever this eventually comes out.
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Not much to report on this, but it is a movie that's coming.
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They got to get it all lined up.
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So it's not in production yet.
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It's like rush or Ford versus Ferrari, something like that.
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It could be fun.
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You know, it's one of those sort of mockumentary almost types of films.
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So there's no bad guy here.
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I mean, who are they going to, who's, who's going to play the villain, right?
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I mean, whatever, we'll see.
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It could be, it could be fun.
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It could be entertaining.
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I guess we got to move on and we got to talk about Porsche, Audi and VW news.
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So what's hot right now?
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Or maybe what's not right now?
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Well, a little bit of sad news to start off, I guess,
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depends on your point of view.
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Some people probably care less.
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Some people might be happy.
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And then there'll be some that are sad to see the, I don't know
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that it's iconic, but it's been around for quite a long time.
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The Volkswagen Passat is finally taking its last cruise as a Finally discontinued
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that model and the last vehicles have rolled off the assembly line down in
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Chattanooga, and they've been fitted as Chattanooga anniversary edition.
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So there's, I know we talked about this some time ago that they
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said they were going to do this.
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So there's a bunch of Tennessee touches and inside and things like that for the
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last model, but essentially the facade.
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Even though it was not the Passat when it first came over has been in
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the US at least since the early 70s, when it was known as the Dasher.
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And then it became the Quantum.
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And then it became the Passat.
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So it's had a long history here.
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It's taken a couple body shapes to get to the most recent rendition, which has
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always kind of been the larger sedan It was always class larger than the
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Jetta in terms of size, but, and now the Jetta, I guess, is the new Passat because
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they're the same size, but we digress.
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There's an interesting video in this article where they, they found like
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the original clip from like 79 or something like that of when the Passat
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came to the United States, because it came here later than when it was
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introduced in Europe, obviously.
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And if you watch it, it's like this.
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Yuppie guy in California, this man, and you're the guy that
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he breaks the fourth wall.
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And the narrator asked him, well, why are you buying a Dasher?
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And he's like, well, it's better than buying a Buick.
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And I immediately, I thought to myself how that was foreshadowing at that time,
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because Passat just basically became a big old marshmallow Buick in its last runs.
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I mean, it's, it's the rental car of rental cars.
21:37
It's the German Camry.
21:38
I mean, it's just like, Blah.
21:41
And what I think they failed to do with the Passat, they should
21:44
have gone in the direction of Cadillac with like the V cars.
21:48
Like they never had a sport version of the Passat that was worth anything.
21:53
They had a few trim packages and the W8 and every once in a while they'd
21:57
throw us a bone, but in general, as Tanya would say, it was vanilla.
22:03
It drove like vanilla.
22:04
The Passat was just boring.
22:06
It was always boring.
22:08
And even as a VW, diehard VW guy, I'm not sad to see it go.
22:12
And then unfortunately to make matters worse, the best and last
22:16
Passat, in my opinion, was the B5.
22:18
5.
22:19
But even that was an Audi and not really a Passat.
22:23
So it's like, eh, whatever.
22:25
Those are the ones that came four motion, the first four motions.
22:27
Correct.
22:28
That was also the one that came with the W8 motor.
22:30
Those were nice.
22:31
They were a good size.
22:32
They were good looking.
22:34
They were the equivalent of the eighties Volvo.
22:37
I mean, they were that, you know, kind of exciting.
22:39
But when you, they were, they were Volkswagen's version of the E 39 BMW.
22:44
Exactly.
22:45
Exactly.
22:46
It was just like a nice, handsome midsize sedan sports sedan.
22:50
Like I said, there's sort of other cool possessed, like the one with no grill.
22:55
As long as it had the VR six.
22:56
Right.
22:57
'cause it was one of the early VR six cars.
22:58
That was cool.
23:00
But like some of the other stuff, you're just like, eh, whatev, whatever.
23:03
Like nobody cares.
23:04
And that's why it's not sticking around.
23:06
I hate to say it because nobody cares.
23:08
They, they kind of replaced it with the Aron or the a, whatever
23:12
the hell that car's called.
23:14
The The Aton.
23:14
The Aton.
23:16
No, I was behind one of those.
23:18
I was behind one of those.
23:20
I was like, oh, look at you.
23:21
Yeah.
23:21
The Arton, is that what it's called?
23:23
Yeah, the, the, the, the Una.
23:25
Yeah.
23:26
. Yeah, that one.
23:27
I mean, so is it, is the Passat really dead?
23:29
Who, who knows?
23:30
But even then it got weird with the Fon and all this other stuff
23:34
and it's like, is it an A eight?
23:35
Is it 86?
23:37
Like, I don't know.
23:38
It's like who cares?
23:39
I think the Fayton was more Bentley than anything else.
23:42
The Fayton was actually a really cool for features and everything.
23:46
I think it was far past an a eight of its time.
23:49
Because whoever commissioned that car to be built, I can't remember the names
23:53
of anybody that worked at VW at that time, but they wanted that car to be the
23:57
best car on the road that all that was Ferdinand PX, like mission is to make
24:02
the smooth, you know, to beat Lexus, to have the smoothest, most luxurious,
24:07
all steel construction vehicle, the fate and Wade, like a semi truck and
24:12
it's basically an aid underneath.
24:13
And the sheet metal on the outside, it was like a bloated B5 Passat.
24:17
It still had the same styling cues.
24:19
So that was what was hard to swallow of that car was like,
24:22
I'm going to be bland looking.
24:23
Yeah.
24:24
You're going to pay 90 grand for a fat Passat.
24:26
I'm like, yeah, whatever.
24:27
Get out of here.
24:28
You waited a year.
24:29
You could pay 10 grand.
24:31
Yeah.
24:31
And then all the maintenance on the W12 would have cost you 80 grand.
24:35
Yeah.
24:35
Nine, nine, nine.
24:35
Yeah.
24:36
80, 90 ran on maintenance.
24:37
For the other things that confuse me and disappoint me just like the Passat
24:43
is this next article, yet another Pikes Peak Porsche e tron records
24:48
like I tried to read this article I read it three times and I'm confused.
24:52
Hopefully our audience will get it because I sure don't do the Porsche won the record
24:56
for the largest elevation change in one.
25:00
Is that what I'm understanding?
25:01
Is that a record we were looking to beat?
25:04
It's like a baseball record.
25:05
You know, the greatest, most hits wearing two left shoes or most of the strikeouts
25:12
wearing tennis shoes with red laces.
25:15
I don't know.
25:15
It's, it's all bullshit.
25:17
I mean, I didn't understand that one picture of them.
25:19
It looks like they're in a, like a coal mine or something.
25:21
Yeah, that's, I think that's, I think that's the point in order
25:24
to hit that altitude record that actually started down in this mine
25:27
and they drove out of the mine.
25:30
Okay.
25:30
So it had to do a little bit of very light off roading if you will.
25:35
It's a record Porsche now owns.
25:37
It's also a record that Porsche is the only one who's attempted, right?
25:43
The Guinness book of world records is full of that shit.
25:46
But speaking of records being broken, apparently Lamborghini, somebody
25:51
aftermarket tuning people, they took a twin turbo Lamborghini Huracan
25:55
to the drag strip and they took it to Bradenton Motorsports Park in
26:01
Florida to do a quarter mile run.
26:03
And they, as it says, cross the finish line clocked at 7.
26:09
54 seconds with 186.
26:12
41 miles an hour top speed understood to be quote, A new best.
26:17
And that that time is enough to humiliate the fastest stock production
26:21
cars out there, including the current king, which is the Rimac Nivera.
26:26
This is not a production car.
26:28
First of all, it's on Mickey Thompson slicks.
26:31
Thank you.
26:32
Yes.
26:32
If you put a RIMAC on Mickey Thompson slicks and you slap however much money
26:38
was spent on this kit into one of those cars, I'm sure you would beat it.
26:43
I don't even think you'd have to do that because the RIMAC on summer
26:47
Michelin pilot sport tires did an 8.
26:50
58.
26:51
In the quarter mile.
26:52
So put drags on that and let's see what it does.
26:55
Yeah.
26:55
All right.
26:56
Put drag slicks.
26:57
And yeah, none of this is important because an eight
27:00
second car is slow as dirt.
27:02
I don't give a crap if it's a twin turbo Lamborghini or the rim back seven and
27:07
a half to eight and a half seconds.
27:09
Just like, you know, Toretto, you owe me a 10 second car.
27:11
That's slow.
27:12
I mean, there's Teslas that are faster than this.
27:15
There's other cars that are faster than this caveat with
27:17
this was it's street legal car.
27:19
There's plenty.
27:21
No, that's BS.
27:23
And there's plenty of pro stock cars out there and plenty of American
27:26
muscle, big block cars that will blow the doors off of both of these
27:29
that are street legal, quote unquote.
27:32
So this is, this is a bunch of hype and that that twin turbo kit.
27:35
Okay.
27:36
That's what the same twin TUR kit that's available for the R
27:39
eight 'cause it's basically the same motor and all that stuff.
27:41
Who cares?
27:42
This is old news.
27:43
Speaking of old news, we ask a lot of times on the pit stop.
27:47
If you were the last person in the boardroom to cast a vote and
27:51
the vote is between the 9 59 and the F 40, which would you choose?
27:56
So far, all of our guests have answered.
28:00
F 40, but have given a justification for why the 9 59 is quote
28:05
unquote, technologically superior.
28:07
And so I found it interesting that our friends over at the Porsche Club
28:11
of America, who by the way, have kicked off their own podcast recently,
28:15
they put together an article talking about nine interesting facts that
28:18
you might not know about the 9 59.
28:21
And what's really important about this article and the research that went
28:25
into it is that when you stand back.
28:28
and look at what is being shown, you have to put it into the
28:32
context of the time period.
28:34
So you look at, Oh, twin turbo, big deal, four wheel drive, whatever, manual
28:39
transmission and all these different kinds of things, you know, off road capability.
28:43
You're like, whatever, there's tons of cars that have that now.
28:45
But when you bring this back to late 1980s technology, built
28:51
on top of 70s 911 chassis.
28:54
This was a supercar.
28:55
This was Porsche's first real production supercar.
28:59
These things are record setting.
29:01
These are real records being broken by Porsche.
29:04
These are pushing the boundaries of what could be done at that time
29:08
in the automotive and really in the motor sports world as well.
29:11
And so, When you compare the 959 to the F40, the 959 is hands
29:18
down technologically superior.
29:20
The F40 was primitive.
29:22
It was still based on, you know, like the 288 GTOs and things like that.
29:25
It had some Formula One technology in it, but not in the same way that the 959 did.
29:30
So I think this is a really solid read.
29:32
And my good friend, Manny Alban, who I've known for many,
29:34
many years, put this together.
29:36
And I gotta give him a shout out.
29:38
So when you have the chance, be sure to check out Porsche
29:40
Club of America's new podcast.
29:42
It's called the PCA Insider.
29:43
And Manny is also one of the hosts on that show.
29:46
And I wish them all the best of luck as they're building out their platform.
29:49
So I think that wraps up our Porsche, Audi, and VW news for the month.
29:53
Let's transition now to the rest of Lower Saxony and talk about what's
29:58
going on over at Mercedes and BMW.
30:00
Somebody woke up, woke up and realized those ugly kidney, not kidney grill
30:07
things, beaver teeth, not a good look.
30:10
No, bucktooth beaver BMW might be sun setting lies.
30:16
Newer models have smaller sized proportionate grills.
30:21
Those two giant grills, at least on the car, we're only
30:24
on the M three and the M four.
30:27
I don't think I saw them on any of the other regular.
30:29
The Xs and the sevens.
30:31
Not really.
30:32
I don't remember seeing those giant.
30:33
But the trucks have those huge grills.
30:36
Remember they compared them, the grills on the front of an X five are bigger
30:40
than the whole front end of an E30.
30:42
Like they're just ginormous.
30:43
Maybe this goes in line with them returning the manual
30:46
transmission to the M3 and the M4.
30:48
Maybe they're starting to listen to their customer base.
30:50
You know, the enthusiast saying, Hey.
30:52
BMW, what the hell are you doing?
30:54
They thought the bangle period was bad.
30:55
This stuff is just insane.
30:57
And I know we've had guests on that sing the praises of the new BMWs,
31:01
early adopters, all that kind of thing.
31:03
And I have to agree with some other folks that have been on the show.
31:06
People buy with their eyes.
31:08
And if it's ugly, it's ugly.
31:10
They ain't gonna buy it.
31:11
People buy with it.
31:12
Well, I don't have to see it when I'm sitting on the inside.
31:15
That's very true too, but I would be embarrassed
31:21
all kidding aside.
31:22
I mean, I'm glad that they're changing back to something that is more iconic BMW.
31:25
I don't want to call it pleasant to the eyes or more appealing.
31:30
I want to label it as iconic BMW.
31:33
I looked at that car and went, it looks like a BMW.
31:35
Like every good concept prototype.
31:38
Spy photo, what is there and what is reality?
31:42
They might slap those huge grills back on it again.
31:45
So, you know, I've seen some other, they're going to do it with the eight.
31:48
They're going to do it with the four.
31:49
They're going to do with a bunch of other models.
31:51
They're already showing the new models coming out and they have the smaller
31:54
girls, not these big monstrosity things.
31:57
That's going to make those giant grilled cars, collector's cars.
32:01
It's a very limited run.
32:03
Maybe that was their plan this whole time.
32:05
Mm-Hmm.
32:05
. Mm-Hmm.
32:06
. If you're in the, uh, market for a touring wagon, BMW will Sure to delight you
32:13
with the upcoming 20 23 3 series wagon.
32:17
Just as long as you don't live in the United States and you
32:19
live in Europe, , they're even making an M three version as well.
32:24
I'm okay with all of this.
32:26
You had me at Wagon and I will say previous.
32:30
Generation three series and even five series station
32:34
wagons are good looking wagons.
32:36
They lend themselves well to the BMW physique, to the design.
32:40
I like them.
32:41
I've never not liked them.
32:42
I haven't seen an ugly wagon yet.
32:44
And thankfully, I think the wagons missed the whole weird front end phase.
32:48
So I'm okay with this.
32:50
Now I will say this.
32:51
It looks a little big.
32:53
The belt line looks a little high, kind of reminds me of the
32:56
Volvos where they're just sort of.
32:59
stretched up, you know, maybe with a set of nice wheels, like an M2 has or M3 or
33:04
some sort of M sport package or whatever.
33:06
I'm excited for this.
33:08
And I don't say that very often about BMW, but I am excited about this.
33:12
We can now finally say that there is no Stellantis news this month.
33:15
So we're going to take a moment of quick silence in honor.
33:19
There being no Stellantis news.
33:21
Well, none that we're apparently aware of.
33:25
I mean, we already talked about Stellantis news.
33:27
The challenger comes with a manual again.
33:30
Oh, okay.
33:30
All right.
33:31
All right.
33:31
So yes.
33:31
All right.
33:32
The record is still in place.
33:34
There is always Mopar news.
33:36
To talk about, but we do have to switch to our other domestic news
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Ford or Chrysler product Ford and GM worn their dealership network to
33:53
stop overcharging for brand new cars.
33:57
Somebody posted the other day and I was completely flabbergasted by this.
34:02
One of the sticker ads for a brand new Ford pickup truck.
34:06
Now I know the prices of vehicles have been going through the roof, but to
34:09
see a 52, 000 dealer markup, I get the 1997, you know, dealer, what was that?
34:18
The destination charge?
34:19
We talked about the last time, but 52 grand for what?
34:23
I'll buy another car with that money.
34:25
What the hell?
34:25
I get angry at the 595.
34:29
Pen striping charge.
34:31
Who the hell is going to pay 52, 000 over sticker?
34:34
Well, the best part is the pin striping charge is for the pinstripe.
34:39
You didn't want on the car to begin with.
34:41
It's already there.
34:42
Exactly.
34:43
You got to pay money to get it off.
34:45
The pickup truck that was posted about it, put it like well into like 130, 000.
34:50
I'm like, why, who, how, how?
34:53
I mean, I get that Ford trucks and trucks in general and high demand
34:57
and things like that, but to 52, 000 markup, I mean, that's bring a trailer
35:01
crazy levels of asking price in mind at your local dealer, hopefully something
35:06
course corrects, or the factories can push back on the dealers and say,
35:10
Hey, you can't, you can make a profit, but you can't make this much profit.
35:14
Or I think it's going to have to take government legislation to step in and
35:17
say, you're gouging people, you're ripping people off, or People buy with
35:21
their eyes, like we said, but they also buy with their wallets and their hearts.
35:24
And if you walk in and you see that you got to walk away, you should walk
35:28
away, but you won't walk away because the dealer will slap on 15 year auto
35:35
loan for a mere six and a half percent.
35:41
It's like a mortgage.
35:42
Yeah.
35:43
No, thanks.
35:44
Flipping that coin a little bit and talking about the motor sports world.
35:46
I'm a little bit excited because as I'm diving more into the new changes that
35:52
are coming for the classing, especially for 2023 Le Mans, we're seeing a
35:55
lot more GT3 and GT4 entries, right?
35:58
And there's whole series like SRO that are devoted to GT3 and GT4 and Ford has
36:05
now officially announced their GT3 plans.
36:09
for IMSA.
36:10
And I'm like, awesome.
36:12
This is great.
36:13
But we have to wait another two years.
36:15
I feel like this is a carrot that's being dangled out.
36:18
I don't think that the Mustang's ever going to go away
36:21
like the Camaro's gone away.
36:23
But then again, I'm like, what's going on here?
36:26
How's this going to work in two years?
36:28
Is that Mustang going to be a hybrid?
36:30
Is it still going to be a V8?
36:31
Is a V8 going to be a thing?
36:33
How does this work with the Corvette?
36:34
With the whole balance of power thing?
36:36
The Mustang's at a disadvantage right now against other cars that are in its class.
36:41
And so I'm really curious to see how this all plays out.
36:44
I'm really excited that Ford is coming back.
36:47
I just wish they were coming back in 23 to compete with everybody else
36:51
that's going to be on the big stage.
36:52
We don't know if they're going to be an LMDH, you know,
36:55
with some sort of prototype.
36:57
I mean, the Cadillac was.
36:58
Re revealed again with some new videos and things like that.
37:02
And it looks super cool.
37:03
I'm really excited about that.
37:04
I mean, go GM.
37:05
That's awesome.
37:06
I think coming to the stage in 23 without something big from Ford
37:10
is, I feel like it's a mistake.
37:13
Yeah.
37:13
Maybe they did the latest iteration of the Ford GT.
37:17
A little too soon and they should have timed it from a marketing standpoint, a
37:21
little differently to coincide with the a hundred years of the, and all that.
37:26
I'm excited for a GT3 Mustang, mainly because in 30 years, when
37:31
they're all on racing junk for 15 grand, I had to pick one up.
37:36
Nice.
37:36
I like that.
37:37
That that's forward thinking.
37:38
That's that's solid strategy there.
37:40
I like that.
37:42
You know, I don't generally commute a lot, especially into the city, but I did this
37:46
month many, many times and, you know, gave me an opportunity to see what's hot on
37:51
the road, just kind of scanning traffic.
37:53
And you know what?
37:53
I spotted, I spotted a Taurus X.
37:57
Can you believe it?
37:57
What is a Taurus X?
37:59
Exactly.
38:02
It's not a new car.
38:03
It's a quite an old car.
38:04
And it's like this Taurus that's not an SUV, is a station wagon,
38:10
but it's sort of like the original Pacifica when they reintroduced it.
38:14
Remember that thing that like up on stilts, but it's a wagon, but it's an SUV.
38:19
And I looked at it and I said, yeah, somebody actually bought one of those.
38:22
I was really, I was actually really proud of that guy.
38:24
And I was also proud of the fact that it's still on the road after like 20 years.
38:28
It was been produced, but again, I didn't know you, you,
38:31
you mean the Ford freestyle?
38:32
Is that what it is?
38:33
This is exactly what it is.
38:35
Yeah.
38:35
It looks like a flex too.
38:36
It's weird.
38:37
Yeah.
38:38
It was the Ford freestyle.
38:39
And then I guess they rebadged it as the Taurus axe to give it, you
38:43
know, some clout because, you know, the Taurus name carries with it some
38:47
pedigree, but it replaced the freestyle.
38:51
Yes.
38:51
We're just going to leave it right there.
38:52
It was, yes, it was.
38:54
Yes.
38:56
So that being said, all kidding aside, I actually saw.
38:59
Two Mavericks this month on the road, brand new.
39:04
Here's my first impression.
39:05
Explorer sport track.
39:07
Look at that.
39:07
And then I went, Oh, no way.
39:08
It's Maverick.
39:09
It looks like a sport track at first glance, you know, that weird SUV in
39:13
the front, mini pickup truck in the back size wise, it's like a step
39:18
up from the previous Ford Ranger.
39:21
Like when they stopped making the ranger.
39:23
So it's actually a decent size.
39:24
It's not F one 50 big and it's not as big as the ranger.
39:29
So I think as a, as a small pickup, it's good.
39:31
It's bigger even than the sport track was, but it's got that shape.
39:35
The front is reminiscent of the last generation ranger, the pre EcoBoost
39:40
ranger and all that kind of stuff.
39:41
I'm not sure what to think of it, but one thing did get my attention.
39:45
The Maverick on the back is huge.
39:48
I mean, it reminds me of like a square body Chevy.
39:50
I mean, it just takes up the whole tailgate.
39:52
And then it kind of dawned on me.
39:53
I was like, well, where does the license plate go?
39:56
And then I spotted it.
39:58
It's off to the right side of the receiver where the trailer, you
40:02
know, where the trailer hitch goes.
40:03
It just looks so awkward.
40:05
Everything's out of proportion because the license plate sits off to the side.
40:09
Really low too.
40:10
It's, it's kind of bizarre.
40:11
That's the one kind of styling cue that I was just weirded out about.
40:15
I don't know that I've ever seen one on the road, but I don't know why they
40:21
needed to make this if they have the Ranger, like when I've heard people
40:24
talking about this, I thought they were just, it was a trim level of the Ranger.
40:28
Maybe I didn't realize that it was its own standalone truck.
40:32
Because looking at it, it, I mean, it looks like it's not body on frame.
40:35
It looks like it's unibody.
40:37
So, so I guess the Rangers body on frame, this is unibody.
40:40
For all we know, it could be a sport track just, you know, with new sheet metal.
40:43
Yeah.
40:43
Cause the sport track was based on the Explorer.
40:46
Overall, I liked it.
40:47
I will say the first one I saw.
40:50
I wasn't a fan of the color was this weird blue, the ones you kind of see in
40:53
the press pictures, it doesn't look as good in real life as it doesn't picture.
40:58
And the other one was like a, I gotta say it this way.
41:01
It was like a diarrhea Brown, but it wasn't, it wasn't bad.
41:05
I mean, I was actually a kid.
41:07
That's like a paper bag color.
41:08
That wouldn't be the first color I selected, but you know, whatever.
41:11
So I was, that was cool.
41:13
I thought that was neat to see a Maverick on the road.
41:15
This soon after us talking about it coming, I was like, that's cool.
41:19
Curious to see what else comes out here in the next year or so.
41:22
So when does the Raptor version of the Maverick come out?
41:26
How soon till we start seeing them in a, in an HPDE event?
41:29
Hey man, send it.
41:31
We got to talk about our friends over at GM.
41:34
So they're doing some investment.
41:35
Obviously they've gotten into the electric car race as well.
41:39
And they've got a facility in New York locked in components that makes a lot
41:44
of parts specifically for GM radiators, condensers, HVAC, oil coolers, things
41:50
like that, and so this facility is actually going to get a big upgrade.
41:55
Thanks to GM dumping some money into it to build a bunch of.
41:58
Electric motor components there.
42:00
So expanding kind of their component train and in us based and bringing
42:05
jobs and investing in their EV future.
42:08
We talked about it on a previous drive through where GM was using 3d
42:12
printing technology to make race parts.
42:15
Will they be incorporating some of this technology into these EV parts?
42:19
That's a very good question.
42:20
Time will tell.
42:21
I guess.
42:21
I also feel like GM is spending a lot of money.
42:25
Every time we turn around, I hear the word GM and investment in the same sentence.
42:28
Remember they invested a ton of money in Nicola.
42:30
They invested a ton of money in the Lorton factory.
42:32
They, and they invested a lot of money in all of these things.
42:35
What's coming of it?
42:36
I mean, I get that it takes like a decade for this stuff to come around full circle.
42:41
They're not paying taxes.
42:45
There's that, right?
42:46
They're taking a loss on this, but I feel like.
42:48
Even Ferrari's going to come to the table with this EV, CUV,
42:53
monstrosity, pure blood thing before GM gets their first legitimate
42:59
EV out there that isn't the Volt.
43:01
So there was the Volt?
43:02
And the Bolt.
43:03
No, because they, they're coming up with the lyric.
43:06
So Cadillacs is supposed to be coming out within the year,
43:10
late this year, next year.
43:11
And the Hummer is still GM, right?
43:13
Nobody else bought it.
43:14
I don't believe so.
43:15
I think it's GMC, which is GM.
43:17
It's, it's all the same.
43:18
Well, Brad, you know, I'm glad that you're back because we haven't had
43:22
a lot of Corvette news since you've been absent from the drive thru and
43:27
suddenly you come back and now there's all this Corvette stuff in the news.
43:29
What's going on now?
43:31
I'm not saying I inspire all this Corvette stuff, but.
43:35
GM kind of does it for me only.
43:37
So the Chevy Corvette is celebrating 70 years and how are they doing that with an
43:42
anniversary package, which I haven't read this article yet, but I'm guessing it's
43:46
just a, a bunch of badges and colors and bullshit like they did for the 50th year.
43:50
Oh, so let's see.
43:51
Including as unique badging, special colors, and lots of red trim.
43:54
Yeah.
43:55
So it's a, it's an appearance package.
43:57
GM is all about the appearance package.
43:59
They did the same thing with the Camaro for the Camaro's 25th anniversary.
44:03
The Corvette 50th anniversary was a special maroon color.
44:07
I think with the magnesium wheels and whatever bullshit, I just said it.
44:11
It's bullshit.
44:12
It's 52, 000 markup at the for a base.
44:18
Stingray.
44:19
If you can get one.
44:19
Now, I will say I like it.
44:22
I think it looks good.
44:23
Those wheels are really nice.
44:24
And the little red trim, especially because it's coming in black and
44:28
white, I think it kind of reminds me.
44:29
In a weird way of like the GTI trim package, right?
44:33
Where it's like the, just that little thin red line makes all the difference.
44:36
And it just, it looks, it actually looks pretty cool.
44:39
That's a lot.
44:40
Cause I'm not, I'm not the biggest fan yet of the C8, especially
44:43
the back, those profile shots, I think it looks pretty slick.
44:47
Good on them.
44:47
No, no, I mean, they definitely do a good job with them.
44:50
I don't see anything about the price for this package when it comes
44:53
out, but I can tell you that it's not going to be worth the price.
44:57
It's a good looking car, but it's not going to be worth the price.
45:01
One last sad bit of Chevrolet news, which we kind of tying it in all
45:06
together with our first story.
45:08
That's right.
45:09
We are.
45:09
We mentioned how surprising for that Chevy spark to be offered in a manual,
45:15
but folks, you better jump on it after August of 2022, there will no longer be.
45:21
Chevy Sparks available off the line.
45:23
They are being discontinued.
45:25
Collector car alerts.
45:27
Funnily enough, the picture in the article even shows the manual version.
45:32
If there was an automotive investment opportunity.
45:36
This is it.
45:37
I gotta ask.
45:41
Would you drive one?
45:42
Like as a rental?
45:45
No, not at all.
45:46
Why?
45:46
Why would I be buying this?
45:47
I would totally get the Corolla hatchback.
45:49
I agree.
45:50
I saw one of those driving around this month too.
45:53
They're pretty cool looking.
45:54
It was in a weird blue color, like this, like Robin's egg electric color.
45:59
It was striking.
46:00
I was like, man, that's the new Corolla, like sport hatchback.
46:03
You can get the midnight murder packages on it too.
46:05
Yeah.
46:06
I was just going to say no, because I do not fit.
46:08
I would drive a spark under one condition.
46:11
If it was a fully prepped B spec race car, I would drive a Chevy spark thousand
46:16
percent, because it would be a lot of fun.
46:19
This wouldn't even be B spec.
46:21
This would be D spec.
46:23
He's using the Forza class.
46:25
You buy one, the base model is F spec.
46:30
And then you, you drop 150 grand into it to get it up to D.
46:34
I didn't say I was building the race car.
46:36
I said I would drive it and this over stuff like the Honda fit.
46:40
I do love.
46:41
Okay.
46:41
So all jokes aside, you can pick up a brand new one of these cars for 15 grand.
46:48
Yep.
46:49
Yes.
46:50
Okay.
46:50
So I, yes, I would buy this if I was in the market for a new car and I was not six
46:55
foot four, then I would totally consider one of these for just a putting around
46:59
town, normal commuter car at 15 grand.
47:02
When the average base.
47:04
You know, average cost of a car right now is close to 50.
47:07
Let's take that back.
47:08
That Maverick is something like in the 20s.
47:11
So would you rather have the Maverick or the Spark at that point?
47:15
Well, the Corolla Hatchback's 20.
47:16
Yeah, I think I'd still go with that.
47:18
It's as close as I can get to a Yaris, right?
47:20
Without.
47:20
So we basically just explained why the Spark is going away
47:24
because of the Corolla Hatchback.
47:26
Wasn't there a Spark Turbo?
47:28
Wasn't there like some Goofy add on thing for the factory, like special
47:32
version or something like that.
47:33
I, yeah, I think it came with the tornado that you used to see on infomercials
47:37
that would help the fuel economy.
47:40
You hit a slap chop on the dashboard and it spins up the turbo.
47:46
It came with a tube that came from the engine compartment in New York,
47:49
in the cockpit and you blew into it.
47:52
And it forced induction into the motor.
47:55
That's awesome.
47:57
Oh man, lean as me and keep blowing that air in there.
48:00
Is GM or Chevy going to release it with a special appearance package?
48:06
They should, they should sunset it with some special trim packages.
48:09
Yeah, it's black and white with little red lines.
48:12
It's the what, what year anniversary does anybody even care they could
48:16
call it 10 years, 10 years, 10 years, decade, the 10 year anniversary
48:21
of the spark, the car existed.
48:24
Let's take what he was leaving.
48:25
Let's take this back.
48:26
Let's take this back just one more time by a facade or spark.
48:31
I mean, the sparks got more style.
48:34
So I would totally buy a Corolla hatchback.
48:40
That's awesome.
48:42
No, the answer is Toyota GRRs.
48:46
It always will be.
48:47
That's for sure.
48:48
Yes.
48:48
So this has actually been a great month for news.
48:51
We've had Corvette stuff come up.
48:52
We're talking about manual transmissions.
48:54
People are breaking records.
48:55
Appearance packages, all this fun stuff.
48:58
We don't have any Stellantis news to really talk about, but you
49:00
know what we do have instead?
49:02
We've got JDM news.
49:04
This is awesome.
49:05
So let's, let's dive into this.
49:07
And the one that got me right off the beginning of the month,
49:10
Toyota, the gazoo racing team has unveiled their GT three concept car.
49:18
And just like the title of the article says it left me with questions.
49:23
It Batmobile.
49:25
My first question was, is this a Toyota powered Mercedes?
49:28
Cause it looks like the SLS, right?
49:30
I was like, what is this?
49:34
Is this like, and because of that, just to save them money.
49:39
And because of that, I like it
49:43
looking like that.
49:44
Mercedes is not a bad thing.
49:45
No, it's good looking.
49:46
I'm really shocked that something like this would come out of the
49:50
Toyota design studio and I'm just like, wow, this is cool.
49:53
Who knows to Brad's point, maybe this is some cooperation like they did with
49:57
on the Zupra right between hopefully it isn't a BMW and they're not going back
50:01
to that well yet again, he's right on point when he says that because all of
50:06
their sports cars, whether it's the 86.
50:09
Or it's the Supra or whatever it's in combination with somebody else, right?
50:13
It's a cooperative effort.
50:14
So I'm really curious to see where this comes from.
50:17
Doesn't look or read like it's a Lexus with different sheet metal, like they've
50:21
tried to do in the past, like the RCF and things like that, which we'll
50:25
talk about more when we cover Rolex.
50:26
And this is cool.
50:27
I'm curious to see where this goes.
50:29
I think it's just going to go as a race car in the GP3
50:32
class, much like that Mustang.
50:34
I would love to see something like this eventually end up into production.
50:38
I don't see that ever happening, but it may have to, if this is going to be a
50:41
real race car, but or it ends up in Gran Turismo before it ends up on the street.
50:45
You know what I mean?
50:46
That kind of thing.
50:47
Kind of like the Mazda Ferrari, which was super cool looking, same kind
50:50
of thing, like just blows you away.
50:52
Even if you look at it today, you know, 10 years later, you're
50:54
like, Oh, the Ferrari is awesome.
50:56
Just never came to fruition.
50:57
It never happened.
50:58
So I want to spend a little bit of time talking about the next car on our list.
51:02
And it's, it's a car that's come up before and Tanya talked about
51:05
it when we talked about new EVs and concepts, you know, before we
51:08
devoted more time to the Japanese market, it was the Hyundai Ioniq 5.
51:14
And it's now being titled as one of the best affordable electric cars yet.
51:19
I have to take a pause here because I'm going to say something I
51:22
didn't think I was going to say.
51:24
I like this.
51:25
It looks good.
51:26
I like it a lot.
51:28
And the more I read about it, the more I like it.
51:30
It would be a hard, hard decision to make between this and the Mach E
51:35
because I'd like the Mach E as well, like the way it looks, especially
51:38
in certain colors and things like that, again, buying with my eyes.
51:40
But I started to dive into the numbers a little bit because I will be
51:44
honest, you know, I'm not a dinosaur.
51:47
I do love my petrol.
51:48
I wanted to do a little bit of homework because if this is
51:51
one of quote unquote, the best.
51:53
What's so good about it.
51:54
So I wanted to dive into the numbers.
51:56
I wanted to do some comparisons between the driving I've been doing this month
52:00
with, you know, an older petrol car against something like this ionic five.
52:04
And you can read all about the ionic five in our show notes and figure out
52:08
how wonderful it is, but I want to get.
52:10
to a deeper conversation here.
52:11
And so one of the things that I think has eluded us for a while when we
52:14
talk about range anxiety and things like that is that there is no simple
52:19
way to convert and compare a gallon of gas to unicorn farts, right?
52:27
And so I actually found there were some Equations that were put out by
52:31
Stanford about like EMPG and like how it converts all this kind of thing.
52:35
So I kind of boiled it back and I got down to a single, very important number.
52:40
One gallon of gasoline has a hundred percent of the energy of 33.
52:45
7 kilowatt hours.
52:47
And I went, whoa, wait a minute.
52:48
Okay.
52:49
That's something tangible.
52:50
I can work with this.
52:52
So starting to break it down a little bit further, not trying
52:54
to go into a whole math lesson.
52:55
So I'll kind of tell you what I discovered here, why this is, this
52:58
is important to the larger discussion and the future of EVs and how we
53:02
grasp this as car enthusiasts, right?
53:05
So 33.7 to one is the ratio.
53:08
The ionic five has a 77.4 kilowatt hour battery, so you
53:12
kind of look at that with 77.
53:13
That's a low number.
53:14
A hundred is good.
53:15
Triple digits like we think like horsepower, right?
53:18
Bigger numbers are better, but in reality, 77.4 kilowatt hours is roughly
53:23
equivalent to 2.3 gallons of fuel.
53:27
So it has a 303 mile range.
53:30
People start flipping out about that number.
53:32
A lot of gas cars have about 300 miles of range.
53:35
So they're trying to give you this equivalency.
53:37
That's 2.
53:38
3 gallons into 303 miles is an average of 132 miles per gallon.
53:44
There is no gas motor or diesel motor on the planet right now
53:47
that can achieve those numbers.
53:48
I'm sorry.
53:49
I finally have come to this realization.
53:51
Okay, fine.
53:53
Here's the downside.
53:54
And it dawned on me in a conversation that I had with one of our previous
53:57
guests, Crutch, who's been on the show a bunch of times, he has a Volkswagen ID4.
54:01
He mentioned that his ID4 has the equivalent horsepower to about
54:06
225 gas horsepower and I said, okay, wait, hold on a second.
54:10
I took that back to the Hyundai again, and I said, okay.
54:12
The Hyundai's single motor model manages 225 horsepower, just like the
54:17
ID4, and 258 pound feet of torque.
54:20
Roughly the same as a 2 liter Volkswagen TDI.
54:24
Now, I know what that feels like, I know what that drives like, so whatever.
54:27
The IONIQ weighs almost 4, 000 pounds.
54:30
So that got me thinking, like a racer, power to weight ratio.
54:33
So the power, so power, weight ratio of the ionic is 92.
54:38
96 because it gets all converted to Watts per kilogram.
54:40
Right.
54:41
And all this kind of thing.
54:41
I wanted to know without going to drive one of these, what does it drive?
54:46
Like, what's it going to feel like?
54:48
Because it's a heavy car at the end of the day with, let's think about
54:51
it as a small motor, not really about the battery or the range.
54:55
So when I started to kind of back calculate and figure out
54:58
what cars that were equivalent to this, I couldn't find something
55:01
that was like right on the money.
55:03
I could find things that were close.
55:05
And in my mind, then I could wrap my head around the whole idea because
55:08
I've driven these vehicles before.
55:10
So let me put it in perspective for the listeners.
55:12
A Pentastar 3.
55:13
6 liter Jeep Grand Cherokee is roughly faster than this Hyundai.
55:20
Also in that same category, The 2.
55:23
0 turbo Audi Quattro Q5.
55:26
So if you've ever driven one of those, you know, kind of CUV SUV, then you have
55:30
an idea of what this is roughly going to feel like, obviously power delivery
55:34
is different because the electric power plant, all this kind of stuff.
55:36
Cool.
55:36
So we kind of put that all in perspective.
55:38
It's just like any other midsize SUV V6 or high strung turbo four cylinder.
55:44
So then it got me thinking, well, how much would it cost to operate?
55:48
In general, so to fill it from 0 is 11 bucks because the average in the U.
55:54
S.
55:55
Is 14.
55:55
19 cents per kilowatt hour, right?
55:58
So I just took the number and just multiplied it out.
56:00
It's 11 bucks to fill from 0 and the driving that I've been
56:03
doing this month, rough mileage and kind of figured it all out.
56:06
It would basically cost me.
56:08
18 a week to operate the vehicle running the mileage that I ran just basically
56:14
charging the car every time I got home and I ended up spending close to what
56:19
the current price of gas right now.
56:21
I was up in the neighborhood of 100 in fuel.
56:23
So the cost savings overall better.
56:26
The upfront cost of the vehicle.
56:28
Obviously there's that.
56:29
There's a lot of things to weigh in here, but if you're considering an EV or you're
56:33
digging your heels in about how petrol's better, I kind of encourage you to sit
56:38
back and do the math and I'll, and I'll share my math in the, in the follow on
56:41
article if you want to take a look at it.
56:42
Just kind of how roughly I got.
56:43
You can tell me I'm wrong too.
56:45
I'm totally okay with it.
56:46
I am not a scientist or a mathematician, just an average Joe.
56:49
Like you try to figure out how this makes sense and what the future does look like.
56:53
Okay.
56:54
Thanks for joining my TED talk.
56:57
My only thoughts on all that is yes, you save savings came to 82 a
57:02
week in your test case, 82 a week.
57:05
So that's what, 240 a month.
57:08
How much is a car payment going to be on a 40, 000 car?
57:11
Yeah, that's, that's the part I didn't want to look at as opposed
57:13
to a vehicle you already own.
57:15
Correct.
57:15
Well, that's the thing with any car purchase though, right?
57:18
Like if you already have a car, it really makes no sense to ever Change your car.
57:24
You can never recoup it, right?
57:25
So unless you're in the market, you're in the market for a new car.
57:28
If you are in the market for a new car, go electric.
57:31
But if you really want a WRX station wagon, move to Australia.
57:36
That's right.
57:37
Because we're not going to get one.
57:39
Sorry, folks.
57:39
That's okay.
57:40
This thing's ugly.
57:43
I was just thinking it looks, it looks just like the Buick.
57:46
That's what I, yes.
57:48
Although I think the Buick looks better.
57:51
So Subaru is selling a Buick wagon in Australia with a CVT transmission.
57:56
This thing is a waste of time.
57:58
Why are we talking about it?
57:59
I don't know, but you know what else is a waste of time?
58:02
How about spending 111, 000 and bring a trailer for a 2000 Acura Integra?
58:09
I'm going to defend this a little bit.
58:12
Oh, please do.
58:13
No, I'm not defending 112, 000, but this Integra, the engineering that went into
58:21
this car when Honda created it is very similar to the amount of engineering and
58:26
over engineering that Toyota put into the Mark 4 Supra, as far as over building
58:32
the motor and everything like that.
58:35
This.
58:35
Particular Integra type R model is actually a very special car.
58:40
Still only had like 200 some odd horsepower or whatever it was,
58:43
but Honda overbuilt, you know, the car and use special materials and
58:49
engineering when they created the car.
58:51
So I, I say they are collector's items and they are worth something.
58:55
000, but I'm also not in the market.
58:58
I don't know what to say because I am a fan of front wheel drive cars.
59:03
But I could never see spending this kind of money on the
59:06
equivalent of basically a shit box.
59:09
I mean, as good as it is or was or whatever, it's your point.
59:14
It's still a 200 horsepower front wheel drive car that any other car in
59:18
the year 2000 obliterated this thing.
59:21
I can name 12 of them right now to include the E46 M3 and any
59:25
911 and just about anything.
59:28
Is better than this and you could buy one of those used right now for less
59:33
money or the same, but especially the BMWs, you 46 and threes, you know,
59:37
they're starting to gain some traction on the used car market, but you can
59:40
still buy a reasonably priced BMW from the 2000s and have a way better car.
59:46
Don't know if it's necessarily a way better car, maybe
59:48
a way better driving car.
59:51
Hold on a second.
59:52
Can't you buy a brand new Corvette for like 60 grand?
59:55
Yes.
59:56
No.
59:57
So you could almost, you could buy two almost.
59:59
Dealer markup.
1:00:00
Dealer markup.
1:00:01
Oh, you're right.
1:00:02
You're right.
1:00:02
60, 000 dealer market.
1:00:05
Right.
1:00:05
So you could buy one Corvette for the price of this.
1:00:08
Integra.
1:00:09
Yeah.
1:00:10
I mean, someone's buying this as a collector piece at 6, 600 miles on it.
1:00:14
That's the only reason it's clean.
1:00:17
Otherwise this thing is worth move the decimal point a couple of places over.
1:00:20
Yeah.
1:00:21
Yeah.
1:00:22
30, 35 grand when they were, which was actually a lot of money in 2000,
1:00:28
I wouldn't have paid that then.
1:00:29
I mean, it, I don't know.
1:00:30
I I'm wrong.
1:00:31
I know.
1:00:32
I know I'm wrong, but I don't know, but you know, speaking of, you know, of wrong.
1:00:37
Toyota builds autonomous self driving Supra.
1:00:40
Why?
1:00:41
They built it to test their autonomous driving capability, which is pretty
1:00:45
cool actually when you consider what they've done, is they are autonomously
1:00:49
drifting a car around a course.
1:00:52
So it does know where the barriers are.
1:00:54
But it doesn't know how to navigate the barrier.
1:00:56
So it navigates them drifting.
1:00:59
So it's still able to negotiate the changing speeds and the
1:01:02
changing traction by itself.
1:01:04
So in terms of their technology capability, that's pretty cool.
1:01:08
How many pedestrians did they avoid?
1:01:10
Well, they didn't hit the barriers.
1:01:11
But I love that.
1:01:18
We're excited about this.
1:01:19
But isn't this the same thing Audi did like five years ago with the TT
1:01:24
where they made it run on track at full speed with nobody driving it?
1:01:28
But driving under control was different than driving.
1:01:31
Yeah.
1:01:32
I mean, they just, they just did a thing at the consumer electronics show too,
1:01:36
where college kids or whoever they were, they took the indie cars basically, and
1:01:40
they made himself driving around the oval or whatever that they had set up.
1:01:44
In Nevada.
1:01:45
So it's like, okay, but they had a fixed course.
1:01:48
They weren't trying to drift.
1:01:50
They weren't trying to be on the edge of traction and control.
1:01:53
Right.
1:01:54
I would rather be on a racetrack with this than Andrew Bank and four is a seven
1:01:58
any day, just going to I mean, they're not saying this isn't about like, Oh,
1:02:04
the new super is going to be autonomous and you'll be able to like drift.
1:02:06
No, that's not the point.
1:02:07
It's just, yes, they use the supra to do this.
1:02:10
It's a testing apparatus for them to test autonomous driving and
1:02:14
not just beta test it with people driving through San Francisco.
1:02:17
Have they done this with a Camry?
1:02:18
We wouldn't be talking about it.
1:02:20
I mean, I'd still like to see a Camry drift.
1:02:22
I think that would be pretty exciting.
1:02:24
I mean, if you read through the article, apparently someone's
1:02:27
already done this with a DeLorean.
1:02:29
I did see that.
1:02:31
I mean, that's pretty, that's pretty cool.
1:02:33
Come on.
1:02:34
The fact that a number, because you know why it's cool?
1:02:37
The fact that it was capable of drifting.
1:02:39
There you go.
1:02:39
Because a DeLorean weighs like 9, 000 pounds and makes
1:02:42
like a hundred horsepower.
1:02:43
Those things are like terribly underpowered.
1:02:45
I know that's an exaggeration, but if you look at the power to weight numbers,
1:02:49
not to go back into that math lesson around the DeLorean, it is terrible.
1:02:52
Like, it was not a joke in that movie.
1:02:55
It struggles to get to 88 miles an hour.
1:02:58
The top speed on a DeLorean is like 106.
1:03:01
And I think it has to be going downhill with a semi truck pushing
1:03:04
it because it just, it's so pathetic.
1:03:06
Granted.
1:03:07
I love those cars.
1:03:08
I think they're fantastic.
1:03:08
I'm not, I'm not hating on them.
1:03:10
I am still waiting for my EV version to come out, but you know, it's all good.
1:03:14
But speaking of flux capacitors.
1:03:16
Apparently there's a recall on Hyundai's and Kia's anything from 2016 to 2018,
1:03:22
the Santa Fe's, the face sports, the Tucson's, the Kia's in the same year
1:03:27
range, even a little bit older, 24 to 2016, their sportages are all being
1:03:32
recalled because apparently there's a defect in the, uh, anti lock brake
1:03:36
system and something short circuits.
1:03:40
And essentially they can turn into flaming balls of fire.
1:03:45
And so it's being and so it's being suggested strongly recommended that you
1:03:50
not park your vehicle inside a garage or anywhere that could light your
1:03:54
house on fire, as that is a potential.
1:03:57
However, it is still perfectly safe to drive these down the road.
1:04:01
This is becoming more common.
1:04:03
Have you guys realized almost every month, even over the last course of
1:04:08
Season 2, we've talked about Chevys that could spontaneously combust.
1:04:12
There were Toyotas, there was the Chryslers, the Hyundais.
1:04:15
It's all a plot.
1:04:16
It's all a plot.
1:04:17
It's all a plot about the dangers of gasoline cars.
1:04:20
All they do is spontaneously explode all the time.
1:04:24
In the combustion chambers.
1:04:25
You're right.
1:04:26
They spontaneously, yeah, nevermind.
1:04:29
You know, I mentioned earlier about spotting cars in the wild, the Ford
1:04:33
Taurus X and the Maverick were not the only things I saw on the road.
1:04:37
I did see some interesting JDM cars.
1:04:39
As I mentioned, I did see the Corolla sport hatchback.
1:04:42
I thought it was really cool.
1:04:44
Got to see that several times.
1:04:45
That guy was easy to spot in traffic every day.
1:04:47
And then.
1:04:48
I actually noticed something out of the corner of my eye and I sped up to take
1:04:52
a look at it because I'd never seen one before and I thought it was another
1:04:55
Toyota Corolla hatchback, but actually it was the Hyundai Elantra Sport.
1:05:01
And if you haven't seen this car, it's like Better than the
1:05:06
Veloster, not maybe performance wise, but it's more of like a GTI.
1:05:10
I thought it was a good looking car.
1:05:11
I was like, man, Hyundai's really putting out some neat stuff.
1:05:14
We're not hearing about it.
1:05:16
Or maybe we're just not in that, that circle, you know,
1:05:19
of Korean cars and whatnot.
1:05:20
But I kept looking, I kept looking, I was like, man, that's the coolest,
1:05:24
GTI that Hyundai's built yet.
1:05:26
So anyway, yeah, the Hyundai Elantra GT sport, there's an inline version as well.
1:05:31
Like, like an, in a GT, that'd be kind of cool.
1:05:35
That would be kind of cool.
1:05:36
And the Veloster N is a neat car.
1:05:38
I mean, uh, the looks you got to get used to, but performance
1:05:41
wise, I've said it before.
1:05:42
It's a really good performing car.
1:05:44
It's surprisingly good.
1:05:45
I think it would be a hard toss up for me between that and the Elantra.
1:05:48
And the Civic Turbo, the Civic Turbo is a much bigger car, but the Veloster N
1:05:53
is actually a really capable vehicle.
1:05:54
But you know what else I did see on the road?
1:05:56
I saw the newest Prius.
1:05:58
Very angular.
1:06:00
I don't understand it because the previous Priuses, they weren't beauty
1:06:05
queens by any stretch of the imagination.
1:06:07
But what I don't get is the back, like they took the previous Prius and it's
1:06:11
like they just grabbed it and squeezed it and yanked it and stretched it.
1:06:16
And it's just like, you know, when you watch a kid with a marshmallow and it
1:06:19
begs the question, why do they have to continue making it look so strange?
1:06:25
Why can't the Prius just be?
1:06:28
The Corolla sedan with an EV power plant in it, like with maybe some, I don't
1:06:33
know, different wheels or something.
1:06:35
Like, why does it have to look so weird?
1:06:37
It stands out.
1:06:38
Maybe that's the point is people get people to go.
1:06:40
Ooh.
1:06:40
Ah, now there was another what I'd like to call Asian car on the road
1:06:45
that I saw that I don't understand.
1:06:47
And I say it's Asian because it's made by Tata and Tata is an Indian company.
1:06:51
And it was the Jaguar.
1:06:52
I pace EV 400.
1:06:54
I honestly felt like I could drive.
1:06:56
underneath of it.
1:06:57
It was the back end was so tall.
1:07:00
The rear glass was so short and so angled in that sort of like,
1:07:05
uh, what do they call it now?
1:07:06
The Atlas or whatever sport back thing where I don't even
1:07:10
know why I had rear glass.
1:07:11
It was, it's bizarre.
1:07:13
Glad somebody bought one good for Jaguar that does things out there.
1:07:17
That back is like a nice bench.
1:07:19
Yeah, you could definitely sit up there, but it's also flat like a wall.
1:07:23
You can eat your lunch on the back of it.
1:07:25
Real nicely.
1:07:25
Oh yeah.
1:07:26
Nice.
1:07:26
Yeah.
1:07:26
Yeah.
1:07:26
The birds will perch up there and poop down the side of it.
1:07:29
It'll be perfect.
1:07:30
So that wraps up our JDM news.
1:07:33
So now we need to move into Brad's favorite section, lost and found.
1:07:36
So what do we got this month?
1:07:38
I wanted to go ahead and go back to cars.
1:07:40
com and see what the oldest.
1:07:43
They have categorized brand new vehicle you can buy is right now on the market.
1:07:50
And as of today, you can purchase a brand new, again, it's categorized
1:07:55
as brand new, 1988 Cadillac DeVille base for a whopping 18, 000.
1:08:03
What?
1:08:04
Yeah.
1:08:05
There's no picture.
1:08:06
You know, we should send John to VC to this dealership because it's in his.
1:08:12
Tome town.
1:08:13
Oh, gray Chevrolet and Stroudsburg PA.
1:08:16
Uh, another quote unquote, brand new car that they've listed is a 2005 Ford GT.
1:08:24
If anybody remembers, that's when they brought back the GT the first
1:08:27
time it's got the, uh, the 5.
1:08:30
4 liter motor from the Ford lightning, obviously souped up with a
1:08:33
supercharger and all that good stuff, uh, with a bigger supercharger and
1:08:36
all that 450 grand, it's a steel.
1:08:39
And it's low mileage because it.
1:08:41
Never ran.
1:08:42
Oh yeah.
1:08:43
This is Jeremy Clarkson's own.
1:08:44
So it never ran.
1:08:45
So no, it's got 13, 000 miles.
1:08:47
So that's actually probably high mileage for one of these cars.
1:08:49
It's like, uh, some guys used to say, you know, you never buy a
1:08:52
Jag that doesn't have high mileage because you know, it didn't run.
1:08:55
We've got, put it in the bank.
1:08:56
I tried convincing Andrew to buy this car.
1:08:59
He was not interested, sadly.
1:09:01
I think he really should.
1:09:03
He could use it.
1:09:04
There is the cheapest Dodge Viper GTS on the internet right now.
1:09:09
It's in Albuquerque, New Mexico for 16, 000.
1:09:12
It's a 2002 Dodge Viper GTS, basically back end.
1:09:17
It starts at the windshield and goes back, but there's no motor.
1:09:21
There's no anything with this car.
1:09:23
I mean, there's an exhaust.
1:09:25
Yeah.
1:09:26
Yeah.
1:09:26
There's like a bumper or.
1:09:28
Something this is like a, what, what were those model kits that the Tiesto
1:09:34
model kits or whatever they were, it's going to need a windshield though.
1:09:37
That's a 100%.
1:09:38
I love that.
1:09:39
You're looking at this and you say it definitely needs a windshield.
1:09:42
I love that you focused well, I want to leave.
1:09:47
I want to leave something to the audience's imagination because you
1:09:50
definitely need to check this out in our show notes because, yeah, I definitely
1:09:55
would not put this in the bank.
1:09:57
That's for sure.
1:09:58
I would save my pennies.
1:09:59
I might almost buy that Chevy Spark instead of this Viper.
1:10:04
But if any of our listeners are on Instagram, please DM to the bank and
1:10:08
make sure you DM this ad and let him know that it is still for sale and he
1:10:12
should buy this because he does not have enough Dodge Vipers as it is right now.
1:10:16
Thousand percent.
1:10:17
And if you want to learn more about that, check out this month's episode
1:10:20
with Havoc Performance, all about Vipers and Andrew and his Vipers.
1:10:25
Oh, yes.
1:10:26
There is a geo Metro.
1:10:29
Oh, our favorite car.
1:10:30
Yeah.
1:10:30
This is a fan favorite here at GTM.
1:10:34
This one's kind of special because it takes two fan favorites.
1:10:37
It takes the geo Metro and it takes the LS conversion and it puts them together.
1:10:43
So yes, there is an LS swapped geo Metro.
1:10:47
Sadly, it's not the convertible that would have been too perfect.
1:10:52
I was going to say Jalopnik has the Volvo wagon.
1:10:55
We've got the LS swap, geometric and readable.
1:10:58
I want to know, is it still a geo with the Chevy badge or is it the Aveo?
1:11:02
Is this that weird period?
1:11:03
But none of that's important because it is a geo with the Chevy badge, but what is
1:11:07
important is when I scrolled down to about the third picture and you see the view
1:11:12
from the trunk, I, I just, I'm speechless.
1:11:15
I don't even know how this works.
1:11:18
Let me describe it for the folks that are going to be like, you know what?
1:11:20
I'm not going to waste time looking at the article.
1:11:22
Think of it this way.
1:11:23
The motors in the trunk.
1:11:25
And it's in their transverse and it's still an LS.
1:11:28
I, I don't understand any of this.
1:11:31
Yeah.
1:11:31
I don't think they ever mounted an LS motor transverse in any vehicle.
1:11:37
I'm trying to think what transmission this, I mean, I I'm spending way too much.
1:11:41
Mental effort on this that is necessary.
1:11:44
It does have an automatic transmission though.
1:11:46
It comes with the 40 ADE from a Cadillac.
1:11:49
So I don't know, I don't know how they made it.
1:11:51
That maybe a custom bellhousing, Andrew bank, please buy this car
1:11:55
to park it on top of your Viper.
1:11:58
Oh, this is the best part.
1:11:59
This car is listed for sale for a 7, 000 firm.
1:12:05
Price.
1:12:05
I know what I have.
1:12:06
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
1:12:08
All things considered, I would almost say that this car is worth
1:12:11
buying it for the motor itself.
1:12:14
Except it's just a 5.
1:12:14
3 liter.
1:12:15
It's not the, not the six liter.
1:12:17
Okay, let's back it up for one second before we move on.
1:12:20
I want to know the conversation or the bet.
1:12:24
Or what that started this.
1:12:26
Like, who literally said, I got an idea, pour LS and that geo up in the backyard.
1:12:30
To waste the time, and the resources, and the effort, and
1:12:34
all the custom fabrication.
1:12:36
I mean, unless this guy was bored.
1:12:37
I don't understand.
1:12:39
Daniel, are you listening?
1:12:40
I can build it myself.
1:12:42
I can build it better.
1:12:43
Daniel, you need a motor for that BMW you bought.
1:12:46
With all that said, I think it's time we move on to random new EVs and concepts.
1:12:51
And first up this month is an Alpha Wagon, but this is an Alpha.
1:12:56
A L F a as an alpha remail.
1:12:59
This is alpha as an a L P H a, a brand, none of us had ever heard of before.
1:13:05
So continuing on this whole thing that's been going on for the last couple of years
1:13:10
in boutique brands, here's yet another one to the list, the clickbait got me at the
1:13:15
wagon part, and then when I opened it, I.
1:13:18
I didn't read it and clicked the close tab as fast as I could.
1:13:23
This thing is terrible.
1:13:24
I think it's awesome.
1:13:26
What?
1:13:26
Looks wise.
1:13:27
It looks like a wagon Scirocco.
1:13:29
It looks like I took it and bent it over my knee.
1:13:32
I mean, what is this thing?
1:13:33
I love the fender flares.
1:13:35
I love the back end.
1:13:37
I love the profile of the whole thing.
1:13:39
Sign me up.
1:13:40
Oh, I love the off road version down below.
1:13:42
The stubby tires.
1:13:44
There's worse things than this.
1:13:45
I think it could be cleaned up.
1:13:47
A couple of lines could be cleaned up on it.
1:13:49
The side profile reminds me of like something from decades ago
1:13:54
of Volvo, maybe, I don't know.
1:13:56
Something.
1:13:57
For the corners, it does remind me of something old school,
1:14:00
but it looks really cool.
1:14:01
Yes.
1:14:02
It looks like, yes, I see.
1:14:03
It's curved the surfboard on the top.
1:14:05
That's curved.
1:14:06
It follows a curvature.
1:14:07
You can tell it bent.
1:14:11
It's just coupe.
1:14:13
They need to pull the nose forward.
1:14:17
So it doesn't triangulate back.
1:14:19
That's what's drawing the line weird because that's not even a very
1:14:22
steep hood compared to no, it's not.
1:14:24
I mean, the back is reminiscent of some older Aston's in my opinion,
1:14:29
from the side, from the straight.
1:14:31
Straight on view of the back.
1:14:33
It's just kind of blah.
1:14:34
I mean, it has those four round lights, like an old Ferrari.
1:14:37
It has inspiration from different vehicles, but I don't know that we needed
1:14:42
to marry an Outback with the Ferrari station wagon and whatever that front
1:14:48
end is off of, uh, you know, off of a Dasher, it's never going to get built.
1:14:52
Let's be serious.
1:14:53
Who the hell is Alpha that isn't Alpha or a male?
1:14:56
Well, before we move on, I will say Alpha is taking reservations for this car.
1:15:01
What dealer network?
1:15:02
The same dealer network is tesla www.
1:15:05
alpha.
1:15:05
com probably.
1:15:06
Well, if you're interested in, in other EVs that aren't cars, but trucks
1:15:12
and other workhorses, if you will, there's a car and driver article that
1:15:15
goes through a long list of other EVs that we didn't even know were coming.
1:15:20
So there's a bunch of different.
1:15:22
Buses or vans, things of that nature.
1:15:26
Apparently, Amazon has a deal with Rivian delivery trucks.
1:15:30
They're so cute.
1:15:31
And they're very futuristic.
1:15:32
They're very cute looking.
1:15:34
There's even Honda has a work vehicle.
1:15:36
That's it looks like they look like the things that run around the airports.
1:15:39
I don't know what you call those, but the little guys, the guys drive them, pull in
1:15:43
the luggage and all that kind of stuff.
1:15:44
The interesting one on here too, is the John Deere autonomous tractor.
1:15:49
That looks like a Pokemon.
1:15:50
Like, I was like, what is this?
1:15:52
Looks so weird.
1:15:53
It's got like alien thing coming out the front.
1:15:56
I don't know.
1:15:57
It's bizarre.
1:15:59
There's some off road snowmobiles, the Polaris.
1:16:02
It's got an Eevee, which just sounds frightening.
1:16:04
It looks like they're out in the Arctic.
1:16:06
Hate to have that battery die.
1:16:08
The Polaris, they didn't do a whole lot.
1:16:10
They put an EV in an existing Polaris and it's like, all right, no,
1:16:14
yeah, it looks like any other one.
1:16:17
And then the, the last one is interesting is the freight liner tractor trailer.
1:16:21
It looks like it's out of Tron.
1:16:23
That thing is awesome.
1:16:24
I know it's an appearance package, but I'm in love with that tractor
1:16:27
trailer for the Tron livery.
1:16:29
That's on it.
1:16:30
I think it's cool.
1:16:31
I will say I was delighted to see a brand returning to the list.
1:16:35
We talked about them last month and that's our friends over it.
1:16:38
Canoe.
1:16:39
Yeah, they have it.
1:16:40
MPDV, whatever that stands for.
1:16:43
This is a vehicle that I built when I was five years old outta Legos.
1:16:48
. It does one brick and four wheels.
1:16:51
It does.
1:16:51
It's a very, it's very utilitarian.
1:16:54
I like delivery truck, I guess is what you would use it for.
1:16:57
I mean, it could be a lifestyle vehicle, it could be a minivan or, or light duty.
1:17:01
So it, yeah.
1:17:02
MPDV is multi-purpose delivery vehicle.
1:17:05
Give it some, some knobby tires, lift it a little bit.
1:17:08
And there you go.
1:17:09
Take it off road, hashtag, you know, van life, take a camping.
1:17:14
Speaking of utilitarian vehicles.
1:17:16
So we've talked about before Bollinger, another, you know, off
1:17:21
brand that nobody's ever heard of.
1:17:23
And they were coming out with the B1 and the B2.
1:17:26
And basically it looks like really utilitarian Hummer.
1:17:30
The pickup truck's not any better.
1:17:32
Well, apparently they've pulled the plug on this.
1:17:34
And they won't be bringing these to production as they said they would.
1:17:38
Instead, I guess they're kind of shifting their focus to the
1:17:42
platform that they develop.
1:17:43
It's not clear who they might be partnering with, I guess, whatever
1:17:47
this platform they've developed is at least good enough to have that keep
1:17:51
going and partner with other people.
1:17:53
So they're going to focus on that side of the business versus.
1:17:56
You know, designing this horrifically ugly SUV and pickup truck.
1:18:00
And this is what I used to always say that Tesla should have done is they should have
1:18:04
designed and perfected an electric vehicle platform and then sold it to all the other
1:18:09
manufacturers to put their own body on top of that's the same model that Mercedes did
1:18:15
with the sprinter vans and why they sold them to everybody under the sun and why
1:18:18
there's a freight liner and a Dodge that.
1:18:20
That's the model.
1:18:22
And I think that makes sense.
1:18:23
We just talked about these vehicles last month, you know, hot to
1:18:26
trot on the EV list of EVs to get, and now it's already dead.
1:18:31
I became completely disenfranchised and I went straight to the comments looking
1:18:34
for some levity in all of this, and I found that my favorite troll post thus
1:18:38
far, which is don't feel bad about the loss of the B one and the B two.
1:18:42
If you really want one, just check out your local Lego store.
1:18:45
For 39.
1:18:46
99 plus tax.
1:18:50
I very much enjoyed that.
1:18:52
So that made the article that much more worth it.
1:18:54
But sadly, Bollinger B2 pickup or Cybertruck?
1:18:59
I'm leaning towards this Lego truck.
1:19:03
You know, I have to agree with you on that, but there's something else
1:19:06
I would lean completely towards and I think that's the new Rivian that is a
1:19:11
handsome and you know, me, I'm not a fan of pickup trucks question for you,
1:19:17
which one are we going to see first, this that we already know is suspended or.
1:19:23
The Cybertruck, which one has production first?
1:19:25
Ooh, it's hard.
1:19:27
That's hard to say.
1:19:29
The Bollinger has regular windshield wipers.
1:19:31
So, you know, it might come out first.
1:19:33
It has three of them.
1:19:34
It's got an extra one.
1:19:39
That was their mistake.
1:19:40
That's why they've had to pull the plug on this.
1:19:42
One extra windshield wiper.
1:19:44
We want to talk about the Rivian other than the way it looks.
1:19:47
I think it's a handsome little pickup truck.
1:19:50
I mean, I think it does a good, it looks like a pickup truck and
1:19:54
that's what I kind of want to see with these electric pickup trucks.
1:19:57
I want them to remind me that it's a pickup truck, not an N64 game,
1:20:02
but then it changes the style enough with the front and the lights that it
1:20:07
has that futuristic, EV vibe to it.
1:20:11
I like it, but I like it in the same way.
1:20:14
I like my Jeep in that it looks like a little hippopotamus and that's
1:20:19
okay because it does right with this big, those big nostrils in the front.
1:20:24
It looks like a hippo, but that's okay.
1:20:26
It's proportioned.
1:20:27
Well, what I think is deceiving about the pictures.
1:20:30
is that this is probably the same size as the maverick.
1:20:33
I could be wrong.
1:20:34
I don't think it's a 1500.
1:20:36
I think it's slightly smaller.
1:20:38
And if GM is involved with Rivian, this might be like a Jimmy might be
1:20:44
that smaller, the S10 or the resurgence of the S10 or something like that.
1:20:48
I'm okay with all of that.
1:20:49
But to your point, I like it as well.
1:20:51
What bugs me though, Is this latest ad campaign on the Rivian site?
1:20:57
Because it feels like we are following in the Broncos footsteps
1:21:01
talking about the goat modes and all this stuff and the eight modes
1:21:05
and the trains and this and that.
1:21:07
And I'm like, let's just sell a truck.
1:21:08
I didn't take it that way.
1:21:09
I thought it was an interesting video because I think, okay, Bronco Ford,
1:21:13
they're doing it for their goat mode, but I, Think to some extent, someone
1:21:18
making electric pickup truck has to come out with a video like this because
1:21:20
everyone who is a pickup truck enthusiast is gonna be like, what a piece of crap.
1:21:24
You're not going to take that off the road with electric motor, blah, blah, blah.
1:21:27
And they have to demonstrate.
1:21:28
Right.
1:21:29
And they're not doing anything really.
1:21:31
Wild from a lay person's perspective, you know, Brad, you're can correct
1:21:36
me because you're more off road.
1:21:37
I think it's showcase.
1:21:39
Well, that it's going to be competent in different types of terrain.
1:21:43
And I think they need to do that.
1:21:44
I think they need to show that to people.
1:21:46
Yeah, it shows that it's as good off road as any other standard pickup truck.
1:21:53
Major altercations or any one kind of impressive thing is when it does a little
1:21:57
bit of rock crawling, just because of the, I guess the approach angles are that
1:22:01
of, you know, very similar to a Bronco or a Jeep, at least on the front, the
1:22:04
back end departure angle is not very good because the bumper hangs off so far.
1:22:09
I agree with Tanya.
1:22:10
It's to put the naysayers to rest before they can.
1:22:14
I'm going to put it this way.
1:22:14
When Tanya decides to go test for drive one, I will go with her and
1:22:18
it will be a pleasant experience, but you know what, it's not going
1:22:22
to hold a candle to the next car on our list that we want to talk about.
1:22:25
That, Hey, that's a little mountain goat.
1:22:29
It's big, bad granddaddy is this Land Rover defender that
1:22:33
has been converted to an EV.
1:22:34
And I know there's a lot of people that are against doing that.
1:22:37
This is a classic, you know, kind of old school defender.
1:22:40
This thing is bad ass.
1:22:42
This is.
1:22:43
The off roader of off roaders right here, right?
1:22:46
You can still fix with a spoon and a dull knife.
1:22:49
This is cool.
1:22:49
You got to check this article out, guys.
1:22:51
I mean, it just looks awesome.
1:22:53
It is awesome.
1:22:54
I mean, if you're a fan of Landy's, this is the way to go right here.
1:22:57
I don't see any fault with this.
1:22:59
You, you aren't totally wrong being able to fix it with a sharp spoon
1:23:04
and a dull knife because you can fix the Tesla power plant at Home Depot
1:23:10
with some copper wire and And, you know, a classic tub and some, some wood bits.
1:23:15
Now this is a Tesla conversion.
1:23:17
So you can pull up to any Tesla charging station and all that kind of thing.
1:23:20
But this is really cool.
1:23:22
You know, if you ask me, I would rather spend the kind of money that people
1:23:27
are spending on converting old Aston's and stuff like that, you know, to
1:23:31
Evie on something like this and the interior, this thing is beautiful.
1:23:36
This is 300, 000.
1:23:38
Again, for the money that is being spent.
1:23:41
You could get a Ferrari SUV in two years and a Corvette, even with the
1:23:45
mark of church, but it's not a Landy and this thing's pretty bad ass.
1:23:49
You could buy 20 Chevy Sparks.
1:23:52
All right.
1:23:53
Well, we would be remiss.
1:23:55
Dun dun dun.
1:23:57
This is a great segue into we would be remiss, I would say.
1:24:00
Yes.
1:24:01
So speaking of Tesla Motors.
1:24:03
And we alluded to this, I think, last month when we mentioned how suddenly
1:24:07
you couldn't put place orders anymore on the Cybertruck and whatnot, but it has
1:24:11
now been officially confirmed that there will be no production in 2022 of the
1:24:16
Cybertruck, the Roadster, or the Semi.
1:24:19
They are going to apparently be focusing all their attention on
1:24:23
full self driving that's going to be quote, better than a human.
1:24:27
Asterix and Elon's new rocket so he can go into space.
1:24:31
Which is ironic when the news this week has been showing footage, I guess
1:24:36
it was finally released of a Tesla crash from I think like a year ago
1:24:40
where it got confused by the police blinking lights and it just sideswipe
1:24:45
a cruiser that was parked on the side of the road, nearly taking out
1:24:48
the two officers that were standing next to it on the side of the road.
1:24:51
Mind you, a lot of damage, anybody out there that's looking for a cyber truck.
1:24:57
I have for sale a day one reservation reached to me with the, your best offer.
1:25:02
No 1, what I have 1, 1.
1:25:06
No, it has to be at least a hundred of those.
1:25:09
So on your, uh, pre order that you placed on your cyber truck, let's
1:25:13
pretend one day you actually get it.
1:25:15
Are you going to try and see if you can get a little add on feature to it?
1:25:20
A little bit of, uh, A little bit of mood setting in your Cybertruck
1:25:24
as you're cruising down the road.
1:25:25
Yeah.
1:25:25
Yeah.
1:25:26
Brad, are you gonna, are you gonna play with your butthole?
1:25:28
I think you mean tickle and no.
1:25:31
So you would not be interested in, in the turn on butthole.
1:25:35
I mean, sorry, turn on Tesla mic feature.
1:25:38
That, uh, can be offered with your Tesla and turn your car into a karaoke machine.
1:25:45
Have you all heard my voice?
1:25:47
I do not have a voice for singing or karaoke.
1:25:50
So no, I know you've got that deep baritone.
1:25:54
Yes, yes, but not quite.
1:25:56
He could have a barbershop quartet in his Tesla.
1:25:58
So that's, that's perfectly perfect.
1:25:59
Yes.
1:26:00
He'd be back there.
1:26:00
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
1:26:02
I mean, apparently like we're just.
1:26:05
Play to the party here.
1:26:06
It's not offered in the U S this is something offered in China.
1:26:10
Software update feature or something, something, something like that.
1:26:12
And you can order special microphone with Tesla written on it.
1:26:16
And then, yeah, apparently you can karaoke in your car.
1:26:19
I have nothing against karaoke.
1:26:21
It's very fun.
1:26:22
I.
1:26:23
Don't know why you would be driving down the road and karaoke because that
1:26:27
implies a lot of times you're reading the lyrics to songs that you're less
1:26:31
familiar with because you can karaoke already in your car without a microphone.
1:26:35
This is needed because Tesla owners.
1:26:40
Realize that the last thing they want to actually do is drive a Tesla.
1:26:44
So they try to do everything else under the sun.
1:26:47
So they don't have Tesla's also celebrating an anniversary, right?
1:26:51
Yes, it is.
1:26:51
And not being under the sun, but sort of around the sun.
1:26:57
Around hundreds of millions of miles away, I guess, but closer, the roadster
1:27:02
was launched this week, four years ago, so the roadster and spaceman are
1:27:07
still out there orbiting waiting for service at their waiting to be crash
1:27:12
landed back, I guess, eventually, I don't know, there's nothing useful.
1:27:17
No useful information to gain by like, I think positioning
1:27:21
any telescopes or anything, like check what this thing is doing.
1:27:26
So nobody has so, but they are speculating that it's probably been like wrecked a few
1:27:31
times in the sense that like asteroids or other meteors or objects have like hit it.
1:27:38
I don't want to see that.
1:27:39
I know.
1:27:40
So now I'm like, can we please turn a telescope in his direction or something?
1:27:45
Can we see if there's like door panels missing or the spaceman is
1:27:49
what if the spaceman has like no head?
1:27:51
He's just, oh my gosh.
1:27:54
So I can't tell you what it looks like right now, but I can tell you where it is.
1:28:00
And it is 234, 675, 760 miles from earth.
1:28:08
Moving away from earth at a speed of 2, 455 miles an hour.
1:28:12
And it is 197, 769, 713 miles from Mars.
1:28:18
Technically, I guess it has a record of most miles traveled.
1:28:23
Cause it's traveled like 2 billion miles.
1:28:26
I'm sorry, Porsche, but it also has the elevation, the longest elevation change.
1:28:30
So you lose again to Tesla.
1:28:33
Oh, but I will say this car is no longer.
1:28:37
Within it's 36, 000 mile factory warranty.
1:28:41
So if you have to replace the battery, you might as well just blow it up.
1:28:45
Did they shoot it into space with the hazard lights on?
1:28:47
Cause that would have been so awesome.
1:28:49
Just like blinking away.
1:28:51
No, but the radio was playing, you know, David Bowie.
1:28:54
So pretty sure that cut out.
1:28:56
Couple of years ago, I was going to say cut out when it left the atmosphere.
1:29:01
Exactly.
1:29:02
Well, my expectations have been thoroughly lowered.
1:29:05
What else is in the news?
1:29:06
I do have one expectation that I want to explain.
1:29:11
It's a more of a PSA about the Jeep grand Cherokee.
1:29:15
I think last month I panned the way that new Jeep Grand Cherokees look saying that
1:29:19
they were too long and they look stupid and I didn't like them or whatever.
1:29:23
I will say that I have seen more of them on the road and the more that I
1:29:27
see the new Grand Cherokee granted, I'm not talking about the Wagoneer.
1:29:30
I think I've only seen one Wagoneer on the road.
1:29:32
But I have seen several of the grand Cherokees and I'm
1:29:36
coming around on their design.
1:29:37
I'm starting to like them more.
1:29:39
I've seen them in different trim packages, a little bit bigger
1:29:42
wheels, some knobbier tires.
1:29:43
They definitely look, I'm starting to come around on design.
1:29:46
So yeah, you're, you're right.
1:29:48
I mean, After a while of seeing so many Geico caveman commercials,
1:29:52
decided that he was charming and cute.
1:29:54
You know, it's the same thing with the Grand Cherokee.
1:29:58
It's got this weird, it's the grill because it bends back in on itself.
1:30:04
It's, I don't know, it's odd.
1:30:05
Like, it hasn't grown on me yet, but then again, I've seen
1:30:08
a bunch of them in the wild.
1:30:09
I mentioned it last month when we talked about it.
1:30:12
I almost wish that the Cherokee nation had come through and said,
1:30:17
do not call this Cherokee because I don't feel it should wear the badge.
1:30:21
Right.
1:30:21
It feels like it's a step away, especially with the three rows.
1:30:26
It should just be the Wagoneer.
1:30:27
Like, I don't know.
1:30:29
It's my personal opinion, but they should just bring back the commander name.
1:30:32
That seems to be what a lot of people are doing when they move from Native American.
1:30:37
Yeah, exactly.
1:30:38
Now, the other thing I did see.
1:30:40
To your point about the Grand Cherokee, I also happen to see the new Cherokee on
1:30:44
the road, kind of the smaller version.
1:30:47
They've made it bigger.
1:30:48
It's more like the old Grand Cherokee, not nearly as big.
1:30:52
It's not bad.
1:30:53
It's proportioned well.
1:30:54
They got rid of the, you know, the three headlights and all this
1:30:56
crazy stuff that was going on.
1:30:58
They continue to refine it.
1:30:59
They're playing a little badge engineering, I feel like,
1:31:01
but we'll see what happens.
1:31:02
Who knows, right?
1:31:03
You ever get tired of driving in traffic, just wish you could, you know, have
1:31:08
a helicopter, just zoom to where you need to be, avoid all the congestion?
1:31:14
Well, look out, another disruptor on the way, thinking EVs are the future.
1:31:19
Well, what about The air car.
1:31:21
No.
1:31:23
What about a car that transforms into a small aircraft?
1:31:28
So you can take off, take flight, get to your destination, land back
1:31:32
down, convert back into a car, and drive that final distance.
1:31:36
How many times is this idea Going to come up in the history of the automotive
1:31:42
world and never get off the ground, like what they've been trying to since the
1:31:47
sixties, it's been successful because it has passed the Slovak transport
1:31:52
authorities flight testing in Slovakia.
1:31:57
Oh, that testing is equivalent, just for anybody who's in doubt,
1:32:01
equivalent, sorry, compatible with.
1:32:04
The European Aviation Safety Agency standards.
1:32:06
So we're on to something here.
1:32:08
How big is the no fly zone in Slovakia?
1:32:10
Also, this thing is powered by a BW engine.
1:32:13
Does that change your mind?
1:32:14
Yeah.
1:32:14
Cause then it will fall out of the sky halfway through your flight.
1:32:17
Well, we know it's an inline motor, so we're good there.
1:32:21
Sad enough, driving and having to worry about the person next to you, the
1:32:26
person behind you, the person in front of you, the deer that could run out.
1:32:30
And now you have to worry about.
1:32:32
The person above you,
1:32:36
I mean, this is great reason to have a moon roof so that you can be constantly
1:32:40
checking above you to see if an air car is going to fall on your head.
1:32:44
Well, when we get a little further into this episode, we're going to hear more
1:32:48
about you having to work people above you anyway, but I'm looking at this
1:32:52
and I'm wondering how does it convert?
1:32:54
Where are the wings?
1:32:55
I don't get it.
1:32:55
It's a helicopter.
1:32:57
It's called a helicopter.
1:32:58
And I see a picture of it without wings, but I don't see.
1:33:01
You get out and you pull the panel off and then it has a track that you
1:33:05
slide it in the back in the trunk.
1:33:07
Yeah.
1:33:07
I trust an aviation device that I've.
1:33:11
Put together.
1:33:11
Yes, that's exactly what I want.
1:33:14
It's just like those guys in Japan, where you see them walking away from the train
1:33:19
station with their 11 by 17 briefcase and it suddenly turns into a mountain bike.
1:33:25
There's nothing else in the briefcase.
1:33:27
I don't know where the wheels were stored or anything else, but it's just like that.
1:33:31
It's just like that, except it's nothing like that.
1:33:34
A hundred percent.
1:33:35
But here's what we're going to do.
1:33:36
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com forward slash GT Motorsports to continue that conversation.
1:33:58
Well, I think it's time that we move on to rich people thangs.
1:34:02
I don't know if this is really.
1:34:04
Rich people fangs, but we've lumped it under this category for anyone who is a
1:34:08
fan of Lego, which, okay, I mean, some Lego sets are definitely a rich people
1:34:13
thing, but they have a speed champions line in the Lego brand, and they've
1:34:18
come out with a new lineup in 2022.
1:34:21
So if you're looking to add to your collection, this year will
1:34:25
be releasing the Lotus Evija.
1:34:27
The Lamborghini Kunta in 1970.
1:34:30
Ferrari five 12 M.
1:34:31
The Mercedes A MG F1 W 12 E performance alongside the Mercedes a MG Project.
1:34:39
One, I think that's two in one set.
1:34:41
And then the Aston Martin Valkyrie a MR Pro, along with the Aston Martin
1:34:47
Vantage, GT three in one set together.
1:34:50
That's a heck of a lineup.
1:34:52
These range about 20 for the single, but the, when they're
1:34:55
in the two pack, it's 30 or 40.
1:34:58
I forget the scale.
1:34:59
Like they're almost like one 24th.
1:35:02
So they're about six, seven inches long, not as big as a one 18 scale car.
1:35:05
So it's actually a good size model.
1:35:07
If you're not interested in, you know, die cast or anything like that.
1:35:09
And if you want to play Legos or whatever, it's, it's pretty cool.
1:35:12
I have a couple of myself.
1:35:13
I haven't unboxed them yet.
1:35:14
They are pretty neat.
1:35:15
I'm glad to see that Lego is putting some more attention and effort into supporting
1:35:19
the motorsports community with Legos.
1:35:21
I think that's pretty neat.
1:35:21
So the other rich people thing, which I definitely opinion rich
1:35:25
people thing or not, I think it is cyber quad for kids, cyber.
1:35:31
What?
1:35:32
Huh?
1:35:32
Tesla.
1:35:32
Yes.
1:35:33
Cyber wad quad four wheel ATV.
1:35:36
And it's.
1:35:38
Cyber.
1:35:38
So it's got the look of the cyber truck.
1:35:41
So it's the cyber quad and obviously it's battery powered electric.
1:35:46
It's got the lithium ion battery, has 15 miles of range,
1:35:49
top speed of 10 miles an hour.
1:35:50
It's suitable for eight years old and up.
1:35:53
These are no longer available.
1:35:55
They're out of stock right now.
1:35:57
I think they just started.
1:35:58
In stock?
1:35:59
They were.
1:35:59
They were.
1:35:59
They started shipping out at the end of 21 in December.
1:36:03
So I believe people have already started receiving them.
1:36:05
You can actually go on eBay.
1:36:06
People are already trying to resell them for more.
1:36:09
But what do you think this costs?
1:36:11
This Power Wheels?
1:36:13
Power, power, power wheels.
1:36:15
How many Dogecoin do I need to spend to buy this?
1:36:18
You say that, but the item number on this is 14135 Doge.
1:36:24
So then it's, it's 1400, 135 Doge.
1:36:27
That's how much it costs.
1:36:28
Okay.
1:36:29
Well then I guess the equivalency in USD is 1900.
1:36:34
What?
1:36:35
Actually for a quad, is that right on par, Brad?
1:36:38
What do you think?
1:36:38
No.
1:36:39
No?
1:36:39
What's a quad cost these days?
1:36:41
Yamaha or something.
1:36:42
What do they cost?
1:36:43
So the top one to get the Razor, I believe, the Razor Dirt Quad, which
1:36:47
does also does 10 miles an hour is 700.
1:36:51
Wow.
1:36:51
Okay.
1:36:51
And it's an electric ATV.
1:36:53
That's a bit of a dealer markup there on that.
1:36:56
So I'm not sure what you're for 1, 900 that you couldn't get.
1:37:00
in the razor.
1:37:02
Well, you're getting the actual cyber quad.
1:37:05
I mean, okay, you're getting a Tesla product for your kid.
1:37:08
So I want to know how the wiper blades work on this.
1:37:11
We have wiper blades.
1:37:12
Oh, perfect.
1:37:13
Excellent.
1:37:14
Excellent.
1:37:14
It doesn't need them.
1:37:15
It doesn't have a windshield.
1:37:16
So on our special breakaway minisode of this particular drive through,
1:37:21
we talked about all sorts of crazy people and driving in the city,
1:37:24
but I think we have to return to our normal crazies down in Florida.
1:37:28
You know, in defense of Florida, we love you just as we love every state.
1:37:32
I did try to find news out of other states.
1:37:37
I tried really hard.
1:37:38
I looked through a lot and unfortunately, once again, A lot
1:37:43
of the good stuff's coming out of Florida, you know, I can't help that.
1:37:46
Okay.
1:37:47
Can't hold me responsible for this completely.
1:37:49
It's not all Florida news.
1:37:50
I'm going to save.
1:37:51
There's some good ones that have not come out of Florida, actually not come
1:37:54
out of the United States, spoiler alert.
1:37:57
So we'll get to those.
1:37:58
But we'll start with this guy, you know, this is like the stupid criminal file.
1:38:03
Like you clearly have done something wrong because you have
1:38:07
an ankle monitor and you're out and about in the red side by side.
1:38:12
And then you start knocking on people's doors because your ankle
1:38:14
monitor battery is running low.
1:38:16
So of course you need to get that bad boy charged back up.
1:38:18
Cause if it runs out of juice, suddenly the alarms are going to go
1:38:21
off and popo going to come after you.
1:38:23
Right.
1:38:24
Well, you know, I guess people started reporting like, Hey, this
1:38:27
You know, dudes coming around.
1:38:29
Yeah, you know, that side by side stolen.
1:38:35
So, uh, yeah, he got arrested trying to charge his ankle monitor
1:38:39
up while going around on a stolen.
1:38:43
I'm thinking his original felony was probably also grand theft, but
1:38:47
he also has an extensive history, including battery burglary and grand
1:38:51
theft is stand up guy stand up guy.
1:38:54
He's just misunderstood.
1:38:55
He's a class act.
1:38:56
Now this next one also involves some, some grand theft, but a
1:39:01
little bit of a different spin.
1:39:02
So, you know, people like to go out and party and it's
1:39:05
Florida, there ain't no rules.
1:39:07
So, Hey, everything's open.
1:39:09
So, you know, you're out at the bar late one night doing as you do.
1:39:13
Unfortunately, you've had a few too many and the responsible person.
1:39:17
Would pick up the phone, although maybe they'd use it as a sun visor
1:39:21
too many times during the day and, you know, the battery is dead.
1:39:24
I don't know.
1:39:25
You'd call an Uber, get you home.
1:39:27
Now, this guy, you know, upon exiting drunk, he couldn't find his car.
1:39:31
And you're thinking, yes, you shouldn't be driving anyway.
1:39:34
No, no, no.
1:39:35
This guy's a problem solver.
1:39:37
Can't find his car?
1:39:38
Let me just steal a car and go look for my car in the stolen car.
1:39:46
But while I steal this car, and I believe it was like, what was it?
1:39:50
It was a Honda Fit.
1:39:50
So anyway, he steals this car, proceeds to, I don't know, stall
1:39:54
it somehow on a railroad track.
1:39:57
And then a train comes along and the train hits the car and
1:40:02
launches it into somebody's house.
1:40:04
And this is that night.
1:40:06
So as the picture shows, this car is like up on its tail, smashed demolished by
1:40:12
the train inside of this person's house.
1:40:15
And then he proceeds to run away on foot, vandalizes a fruit
1:40:20
cart and then tries to steal.
1:40:22
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
1:40:26
How does one vandalize a fruit cart?
1:40:31
He vandalized the fruit stand!
1:40:33
And then he stole the forklift that was at the fruit stand and tried to get away
1:40:37
because the money was in the banana stand.
1:40:40
That's why he's saying vandalized, not sodomized.
1:40:44
Oh, that's brutal.
1:40:48
But he told the cops.
1:40:50
He made sure to let them know that he was looking for his stolen car.
1:40:53
It's all good, it's all good, it's all good.
1:40:54
He flags them down to tell them he was looking for his stolen car.
1:40:59
So it's all okay.
1:41:01
Where's my car?
1:41:02
It's because two wrongs make a right, right?
1:41:05
Oh my goodness.
1:41:06
I don't know where people Too much, too much to drink.
1:41:11
That person had apparently not enough.
1:41:13
Okay.
1:41:19
Florida people in general, I guess apparently are going to
1:41:22
get very disappointed here.
1:41:24
Pretty soon because I think up until very recently, Florida is one of the
1:41:29
few states remaining that essentially doesn't have rules around what you
1:41:35
can write on your vanity plate.
1:41:36
And so now they're changing their minds on that and they're going to regulate it.
1:41:42
Might be recalling people's tags that are already out there and they've already
1:41:46
denied 500 applications last year, I guess when they started cracking down on
1:41:52
bad vanity plates and, and some of 'em, it's like, okay, clever 2020 WTFF you.
1:41:59
2020.
1:42:00
Okay.
1:42:01
Aha.
1:42:02
And okay, slow.
1:42:03
POS Shitbox was another one like.
1:42:07
All right.
1:42:08
You're just having commentary on yourself.
1:42:10
I don't know.
1:42:11
And then they just get a little bit weird.
1:42:13
You know, there's some political commentary ones in there.
1:42:15
Then there's drug man.
1:42:16
I don't think you should probably be advertising for possibly legal habits.
1:42:22
Um, that's marketing, marketing, right?
1:42:24
Dead AF.
1:42:26
I'm not sure what that is supposed to signify.
1:42:28
I mean, killer.
1:42:30
Here's another one that could be marketing for themselves.
1:42:32
Not in a good way.
1:42:34
Fat AF.
1:42:35
F T B S T R D.
1:42:37
That's fat bastard.
1:42:38
Yep.
1:42:39
F K diet.
1:42:41
Okay.
1:42:42
These people are like personally attacking themselves.
1:42:45
It's very strange.
1:42:46
Then the weirdest one.
1:42:49
T Bundy.
1:42:50
Like, really?
1:42:51
I get this one though.
1:42:53
I get it though.
1:42:54
Brown Volkswagen Beetle.
1:42:55
Yeah, I'm going to give the shout out to the girls over at Sinister Hood.
1:42:58
You need to listen to the Ted Bundy episode or multiple episodes on Ted Bundy.
1:43:02
So this all gets explained on their podcast.
1:43:05
And that is, that is clever, but also creepy.
1:43:09
They didn't say that it went on a brown Volkswagen.
1:43:12
They're saying how creepy would it have been had the application
1:43:15
been on a I skimmed, I skimmed.
1:43:19
Oh, then I wonder if.
1:43:20
Okay.
1:43:21
Yeah.
1:43:22
Yes.
1:43:23
Creepy.
1:43:24
So yeah, apparently they're cracking down on that.
1:43:28
So can't imagine what the other plates that have gone
1:43:31
through in the past must say.
1:43:33
Way to go, Florida.
1:43:34
Way to try and fast things up.
1:43:36
Well, apparently there's some other states that are buck wild already.
1:43:38
So there's a tag idea right there.
1:43:40
Buck wild.
1:43:41
Buck wild.
1:43:41
That's safe though.
1:43:42
There's nothing bad about that.
1:43:44
I don't think.
1:43:47
All right.
1:43:47
So now we're going to go north to our Canadian friends and Canada
1:43:51
ones are always good, you know, because they always, I think
1:43:54
so much better of Canadians.
1:43:56
And then when I see stuff like this, I'm just like Canada.
1:43:59
Okay.
1:44:00
It's not a kid.
1:44:04
I love Canada.
1:44:07
I enjoy visiting there.
1:44:08
This woman somehow bless her heart.
1:44:11
Ends up some sort of frozen water body, I think a river.
1:44:16
She ends up on this river in her bright yellow scion, from
1:44:22
what I can tell in that picture.
1:44:23
But then the ice breaks and so the car starts sinking.
1:44:27
Now, you'd think a sane person would be like, time to get the F O.
1:44:32
GTFO this thing.
1:44:33
No, no, no.
1:44:34
She stands on the back of the car, proceeds to take a selfie,
1:44:40
as everybody else is trying to, like, come to her rescue and
1:44:44
call police and do whatever.
1:44:46
She's just chillin As her car is sinking, taking selfies.
1:44:50
I mean, you got to capture the moment.
1:44:52
That's for the gram, as Brad would say, for the gram.
1:44:55
What other time in your life would you get the opportunity to stand on a sinking
1:44:59
scion and take a picture of yourself?
1:45:01
I mean, you know, this one Twitter person, I think, summarized it pretty well.
1:45:06
You know, she captured the moment with a selfie while people
1:45:08
hurried and worried to help her.
1:45:12
Yeah, 100%.
1:45:12
They should have just left her there.
1:45:14
But then the best part is it's like inception, right?
1:45:17
Because there's a picture of some other person with their cell phone
1:45:21
taking a picture of her on her cell phone doing the selfie thing.
1:45:24
So it's like this cascading failure.
1:45:26
For the gram!
1:45:27
I have saved the absolute best, I think, for last.
1:45:31
I think this has got to be tops.
1:45:34
And this comes from our friends across the pond in the UK.
1:45:38
Oh, apparently an Englishman's home is his castle and that pretty
1:45:43
much stands up in court as defense.
1:45:45
Really?
1:45:46
So this man who's got this estate farmland or whatever, he's a farmer.
1:45:51
Not Jeremy Clarkson.
1:45:52
Fourth generation hill farmer, this man.
1:45:55
Cutting to the chase, he uses essentially a telehandler, so like a
1:45:59
forklift, telehandler with a fork on the front end, so like a forklift,
1:46:02
and he flips and pushes some guy's car off his property that refused
1:46:07
to move his car out of his driveway.
1:46:09
Watch the video, there is a video of it.
1:46:13
This is epic.
1:46:14
This dude's car got like a flat or broke down, asked him repeatedly to move.
1:46:19
The driver, I think, didn't get into an altercation, but this other dude that
1:46:23
was his friend showed up who was drunk and shirtless and like allegedly punched
1:46:27
the guy first, which I guess He was like, nope, forklift, telehandler thing.
1:46:32
I'm gonna take care of y'all.
1:46:33
He pushed it out into the road, turned it onto the side of the
1:46:37
road and just like left it there.
1:46:39
That is awesome.
1:46:42
And he was taken to court, but the charges were all dismissed because he
1:46:45
was protecting his Oh, before we move on, did you all watch the end of the video?
1:46:52
He hit the guy with the forklift.
1:46:54
Oh, yeah.
1:46:55
Yeah.
1:46:55
Well, he turned the forklift and the guy was standing there.
1:46:58
Yeah.
1:46:59
No, he, he hit the guy with the forklift.
1:47:01
Yeah.
1:47:01
The guy was standing there.
1:47:02
He knew the guy was standing there and he turned the forklift pretty rapidly.
1:47:05
More power to him.
1:47:06
You know what?
1:47:07
Get off my lawn.
1:47:08
Get off my lawn.
1:47:10
Well, that being said, I think it's time that we go behind
1:47:13
the for some motor sports news.
1:47:15
So what's going on in the world of NASCAR time?
1:47:18
Not something you usually report about?
1:47:20
No, um, it's just something that came across Netflix apparently
1:47:23
on the 22nd of February.
1:47:25
They're going to be airing a docu series.
1:47:27
It's six episodes.
1:47:28
It's called Race Bubba Wallace.
1:47:30
So it's a docu series on the NASCAR driver Bubba Wallace.
1:47:34
And his NASCAR journey thus far, not really much other information in, in the
1:47:39
preview for it, but one can only imagine.
1:47:42
Well, maybe we'll have to take a look at it and talk about it
1:47:44
in the next drive thru, right?
1:47:45
But speaking of other dramas on television, what about Formula One?
1:47:49
What's going on over there, Brad?
1:47:50
What's the big news?
1:47:51
Uh, All the manufacturers are, or all the teams are releasing their new 2022 cars.
1:47:57
I think Haas was the first team to do it.
1:47:59
And yeah, I mean, all the cars pretty much look the same.
1:48:02
They're all cool.
1:48:03
I believe the wheels are bigger.
1:48:04
I mean, the tires are bigger than they have been previously.
1:48:07
So that should help.
1:48:08
So I'm just going to have to wait and see how they perform on in some
1:48:11
way, make the racing more exciting.
1:48:13
We're going to go ahead and see.
1:48:15
We always say that every year I hear that phrase.
1:48:17
We're going to make the racing more exciting.
1:48:19
Has that ever proven to be true since Bernie Ecclestone or Ecclestine, whatever
1:48:24
his name is, is no longer in charge.
1:48:26
And that other guy sports or whatever, took it over.
1:48:29
They have made some improvements.
1:48:30
And actually this year is the first year where they implemented a lot of different
1:48:35
changes, especially to the cars and stuff.
1:48:36
So I think it could be good.
1:48:38
Last year they were done.
1:48:39
They were playing around at a lot of the races with the
1:48:42
sprint races, a qualifying race.
1:48:44
I think that was really cool.
1:48:45
Inadvertently or without their even trying some of the races ended up
1:48:50
almost in like a reverse grid because of red flags and stuff like that on
1:48:54
the restart, which was super exciting.
1:48:56
That wasn't anything that they actually did.
1:48:57
It was just kind of a coincidence thing.
1:48:59
They are trying to make changes.
1:49:01
Some of them make it more exciting, but it depends on what
1:49:04
you're looking for in racing.
1:49:05
Some of our F1 fans hate the idea of the sprint race because it takes
1:49:09
away from the actual qualifying and it adds nothing really.
1:49:13
It discourages someone from actually trying to qualify, you
1:49:17
know, and have the fastest lap.
1:49:18
I'm going to watch anyway.
1:49:19
I like F1 racing.
1:49:21
I think it's much more exciting than that bit IndyCar.
1:49:23
I thought the new Formula cars were IndyCars.
1:49:26
They really look.
1:49:27
Similar.
1:49:28
They, I mean, I've looked at, they, they look identical, but they're
1:49:31
I mean, the McLaren's, the Astons.
1:49:32
I was like, man, that's a cool livery on that indie car.
1:49:35
You guys got there.
1:49:35
I'm like, whatever.
1:49:36
But to your point about making the racing more exciting and, and the changes,
1:49:40
my hot take on this is if you want the racing to be more exciting, get rid
1:49:44
of all this balance of power nonsense.
1:49:46
What the people want, what the fans want is not.
1:49:49
Everybody to be the same.
1:49:50
This isn't go kart racing.
1:49:51
This isn't even NASCAR for that respect.
1:49:54
And NASCAR, I think should change to let people build their cars.
1:49:57
We're going to talk about here with Rolex.
1:49:59
And actually we should probably maybe transition to Rolex at the same time.
1:50:02
You know, when they did the balance of power on the Corvettes, if you can't
1:50:05
build a car that competes, build a better car, stop penalizing everybody.
1:50:09
If you're hitting, if you're following the marks of the rules.
1:50:12
Build a better car.
1:50:13
The only caveat to that is I would say institute some sort
1:50:17
of budget to keep some of that.
1:50:18
I mean, there's a huge disparity in the amount of money that
1:50:21
some of these race teams have.
1:50:22
Like obviously the factory teams like Mercedes are going to have a significant
1:50:26
budget compared to a team like Haas.
1:50:29
Why don't we split F1 down the middle and do like they did in
1:50:31
WRC where it's WRC1 and WRC2.
1:50:33
So there's F1A and F1B.
1:50:36
It's essentially what it is.
1:50:37
There's the best and then the best of the rest.
1:50:41
But that's an unofficial thing.
1:50:42
It's not official, but yeah, I would, I would agree with that.
1:50:46
But look at it this way.
1:50:47
If it was cheaper for Williams to develop, like they did in the seventies,
1:50:52
like a six wheeled formula car and have it be a V12, let them do it.
1:50:56
Who cares?
1:50:57
Like this whole cookie cutter, everybody's got the same car
1:51:00
with different skin on it.
1:51:02
It doesn't do anything for me.
1:51:03
This is why I stopped being interested in Formula One, was
1:51:06
right after the V10 era, where all the cars were basically the same.
1:51:10
And during the V10 era, it was, it was still different enough.
1:51:14
Ferrari still had their motors.
1:51:15
BMW had their motors.
1:51:17
Renault had their motors.
1:51:17
They were all different enough.
1:51:19
And they perform differently.
1:51:20
Some were better than others to your point Ferrari has deep
1:51:23
pockets, you know, things like that.
1:51:25
But once they decided to make all the F1 cars, cookie cutter, I'm done.
1:51:29
I checked out.
1:51:29
I don't care.
1:51:30
I see that in a lot of other racing and it, and it hurts me because
1:51:34
I think it takes away, From the technological progression, it
1:51:38
takes away from the ingenuity, it takes away from the originality.
1:51:42
And when you're looking at the cars, you're like, well, what's the difference
1:51:44
between the Aston and the Honda?
1:51:47
There should be a clear delineation between what they are and what they're
1:51:50
capable of, not the same thing.
1:51:52
Here it is.
1:51:53
It's this, there is a team spending down to 140, 000.
1:51:56
40 million from 1 7 5 in 2020.
1:51:58
Oh damn.
1:51:59
Is that all to, to help level the playing field for smaller teams like Haas, as
1:52:02
they go up against outfits with relatively unlimited resources like Ferrari and
1:52:05
Mercedes and Red Bull, which used to spend upwards of 400 million annually.
1:52:09
So yes, they're instituting that as well as all these other changes to kind of
1:52:13
more, here's the underdog story, right?
1:52:15
Ferrari spends 400 million and they get their butts handed to them by
1:52:19
Williams, who can only spend 1 75.
1:52:22
So who cares?
1:52:22
Let them spend.
1:52:24
A billion dollars if they want to, but build a better mousetrap,
1:52:28
figure out a way to do it.
1:52:29
And you know where it comes from.
1:52:31
The better engineers are the ones that do more with less.
1:52:34
That's been proven time and time again.
1:52:37
The cars that succeed are the ones that were built with less.
1:52:41
And they got more out of them than the folks that had deep pockets.
1:52:44
That's the Porsche story.
1:52:45
That's the early Italian sports car stories where they didn't have
1:52:48
anything and they built from nothing.
1:52:50
So I think we've, we've gone away from that and it, it takes away from the
1:52:54
racing in my opinion, because it's like watching a video game, right?
1:52:58
And we'll talk about that in a minute too.
1:53:00
I want to talk about Rolex before we transition to some WRC news.
1:53:04
I mentioned the, you know, balance of power a couple of times when
1:53:06
we talked about the Corvette.
1:53:08
I thought that was, I hate to say, sort of pathetic.
1:53:10
Like, I really felt bad for Team Corvette.
1:53:12
I don't know why they were trying to like, or they were forced to step down
1:53:15
to meet the new rules or whatever.
1:53:17
Maybe the Corvette's in this weird gray area where it should really be
1:53:20
like a GT2 car, which doesn't exist.
1:53:23
You know, this kind of thing.
1:53:24
I, I just felt like, meh, it didn't really help.
1:53:27
The, the field was bigger than it's been in a number of years, but.
1:53:31
I also wasn't impressed.
1:53:33
I'm not happy with this LMP3 thing.
1:53:35
It just feels like there's more of the same cars on the track and
1:53:38
there's no variation and on the theme, you know, stuff like that.
1:53:41
What'd you think, Brad, at least of the lineup and stuff like that for Rolex?
1:53:44
Uh, I thought the top level was fun.
1:53:47
It was fun to watch.
1:53:48
The VPI class was a lot of fun.
1:53:50
I can do that.
1:53:51
The Acuras and the Cadillacs go at each other.
1:53:53
It was cool.
1:53:54
Corvette, I don't know.
1:53:55
Cause I don't know if I fully understand the rule changes with that, but it was
1:54:00
my understanding that both the GTD and the GTT pro cars are basically classed
1:54:05
the same now, the only difference is the driver's skill, really, if
1:54:08
that's the case, I mean, again, with the balance of power or balance of
1:54:12
performance or whatever, whatever it is, I haven't looked too much into it
1:54:15
and how it affected Corvette, this race.
1:54:18
I don't know.
1:54:18
Overall, I thought the race was fun to watch the bits that I did.
1:54:21
Watch the 9 11's was insane.
1:54:24
The front of the pack end of the race wasn't nearly as important as
1:54:28
the battle between those two 9 11's.
1:54:29
That was legitimately awesome racing.
1:54:33
Those last 18 minutes where they're battling back and forth, bump drafting,
1:54:37
pushing each other and inevitably It ends in a cloud of smoke and disappointment.
1:54:41
It was, it was epic.
1:54:42
The front of the pack, I could have cared less what was happening between
1:54:45
Acura and Cadillac and all that stuff.
1:54:47
Cause that race was already over by the time the second place car
1:54:50
had dropped back a couple seconds.
1:54:52
I was like, they're never going to make that up.
1:54:53
And I'm glad the cameras turned their attention to the GTLM cars
1:54:57
because that was, that was exciting.
1:54:59
I waited 23 hours and 40 minutes for that 20 minutes of action.
1:55:03
And it's a shame that it had to come at that point.
1:55:05
And there was cool stuff that happened in the middle of the night.
1:55:08
But I think the thing that made the race a complete drag was these extended
1:55:13
yellows and I watched most of the race.
1:55:15
I only got a couple hours of sleep.
1:55:17
And so I was, I was tuned in for a lot of it.
1:55:19
It was incredible.
1:55:20
I think we were over 20 yellows in the whole race, but they like went on for.
1:55:25
Ever.
1:55:25
And it was just like, what are we still doing under yellow that we come out
1:55:29
of yellow and then we go into another yellow and it's like, Oh, we crud.
1:55:33
And it just, there were parts of the race that were just painful, but that that
1:55:37
ending definitely made up the difference.
1:55:39
You know, going back to the balance of power, I felt bad for Corvette,
1:55:43
and this isn't a slight against Lexus.
1:55:45
But when the Lexuses are walking away from the Corvettes, I
1:55:48
was like, something's wrong.
1:55:49
Either cars are busted or whatever.
1:55:51
And, and again, it's not a slight against Lexus, but it's just that
1:55:53
Lexus has been riding that same car for what feels like forever.
1:55:58
And I'm sure they've made advances and whatever, but I don't wanna say
1:56:02
that the Lexus isn't competitive, but it's not winning GTLM.
1:56:05
The front runners have been Porsche and Corvette and BMW and things like that.
1:56:09
They're always just sort of there.
1:56:11
But to see the Corvette just getting walked.
1:56:14
By the Lexus, which is tried and true, you know, it's kind of always there.
1:56:19
Like I said, it just, it hurt a little bit to see that.
1:56:22
And I, I don't know what's going on.
1:56:24
Hopefully they'll figure that all out.
1:56:25
A couple of things that I thought were interesting, the safety
1:56:28
car was that color was heinous.
1:56:29
I mean, I, I know that it has to stand out, but that BMW did not look
1:56:32
good in whatever that yellow was.
1:56:35
Please repaint that car, rewrap it.
1:56:37
Oh God, that was awful.
1:56:38
The other thing was I had a hard time differentiating between the
1:56:41
new Benz's and the nine 11s because from behind, they look a lot alike.
1:56:46
The rear end of the nine 11 is so big now.
1:56:49
I don't know.
1:56:50
So that was hard to like tell them apart when they were in traffic.
1:56:53
But the other thing.
1:56:54
That I thought was interesting was John Pearson.
1:56:57
Apparently he's 15 year old.
1:56:58
He next year, he's going to be the youngest driver in Rolex history.
1:57:02
So I thought that was pretty cool.
1:57:03
They did a spot with him for a couple of minutes, kind of interviewed him.
1:57:06
I'd love to know what his backstory is at 15, you know, going to
1:57:10
be 16 years old next year.
1:57:12
How do you go from high school to driving?
1:57:16
Well, yes.
1:57:16
Okay.
1:57:17
The answer is obvious,
1:57:20
but I still think it's pretty cool.
1:57:22
I'd love to know what that backstory is.
1:57:23
So 23 is going to be an awesome year.
1:57:25
There's a lot of new cars coming.
1:57:27
I'm really curious to see how Rolex shapes up.
1:57:30
If the teams that are going to go to Le Mans are going to use Rolex as their
1:57:35
test race, because it's going to make for a really exciting Rolex next year.
1:57:40
I'm cautiously optimistic.
1:57:42
But I think it's time we switch to some WRC news.
1:57:45
What do you got, Tanya?
1:57:46
Isabelle Galmiche, a French co driver in Raleigh, she teamed up recently
1:57:51
with Sebastian Loeb and has become, I guess, maybe the second woman, or
1:57:56
at least the first woman in the last 25 years to, uh, Co drive at Monte
1:58:01
Carlo rally and be in the winning car.
1:58:05
So congrats to her.
1:58:06
And she's got an interesting story that this is not her full time gig.
1:58:10
She kind of moonlights as a co driver and she has for, for many years.
1:58:14
It's the first time, uh, competing with in the right seat with Sebastian Loeb.
1:58:18
So good for her, her, her day job is a math teacher.
1:58:21
That's awesome.
1:58:22
And she's very humble sounding.
1:58:23
She doesn't want to have a lot of us and must about any of this or bring the
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trophy in the school to show anybody.
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Yes.
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Kind of wants to go about her day.
1:58:32
And, you know, a lot of people that may not be intimate with how WRC works and
1:58:38
rally, you know, there's two people in the car, they're going flat out, you
1:58:42
know, crazy on these mountain roads and the navigator's job is super important.
1:58:47
It's actually even more difficult than the driving in the sense that
1:58:49
they keep the pace and the rhythm of the run itself of the past, right.
1:58:55
They're giving out instructions to the driver in advance because there's On
1:58:59
many occasions, the driver only sees the run one time, and it's usually in
1:59:04
a passenger vehicle at lower speed.
1:59:06
And what they're doing on that one run is taking notes about the course,
1:59:10
about the elevations, the camber, where there's holes, where you need
1:59:13
to turn in, where to watch out, what's on the exit of the corner.
1:59:16
And those hieroglyphs, those instructions that they write are super important.
1:59:20
So very complex type of shorthand that they use.
1:59:23
And they need to be able to obviously remember that, but also come to an
1:59:27
agreement with their driver on what the turn is, what they're going to do.
1:59:31
So she's got a really difficult job working with any of the drivers, but even
1:59:35
a world champion like Sebastian Loeb.
1:59:37
I mean, it's an honor and a privilege, but also it's, it's a challenge, right?
1:59:42
So.
1:59:42
Obviously they don't have a, uh, language barrier because they're both French.
1:59:45
I'm proud of her.
1:59:46
I mean, it's a tough job and being in the right seat and not really looking
1:59:50
also where you're going and just reading that book line after line and
1:59:55
being on those difficult stages and crazy weather conditions and all that.
1:59:59
It's a tough job.
2:00:00
I don't think I could stump.
2:00:01
I don't think I have the stomach for it, honestly, because I probably get
2:00:04
sick, you know, just trying to do that.
2:00:07
In the passenger seat, but to your point about the last time it was done, and I
2:00:11
might be wrong about my WRC knowledge, but I think it goes almost as far back as
2:00:16
Michel Mouton and Fabrizio Pons as winning female co driver navigator at Monte Carlo.
2:00:23
It might be that far back, which is 35 plus years.
2:00:26
Instead it was Fabrizia Pons with Piero Liatti in 1997.
2:00:31
So after she left Michelle, yeah, yeah, okay.
2:00:34
But it was Fabrizia then, still the same navigator as it was for Michelle Mouton.
2:00:38
So there you go.
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I mean, she's famous as, you know, one of the early female rally navigators.
2:00:43
So that's awesome.
2:00:44
It's good to see that.
2:00:45
And we want to promote that.
2:00:46
And I know she doesn't want the glory, but you know, I'm proud of her.
2:00:49
That's awesome.
2:00:50
It's a tough job.
2:00:50
It's a thankless job.
2:00:51
That's for sure.
2:00:52
So a little bit of news from the e sports world, right, Brad?
2:00:55
Yeah, I guess if you're a PlayStation person, which I'm
2:00:58
not, but GT7, is coming out.
2:01:02
It is going to be released on March 4th of this year.
2:01:06
It brings with it 400 cars at 34 different locations with 90 different layouts.
2:01:12
It's going to be available on both the PS4 and the PS5.
2:01:15
And yeah, if you play Gran Turismo for some reason over Forza,
2:01:21
then, you know, this is your bag.
2:01:23
I'm just curious, how long have they been waiting for this new
2:01:25
version of Gran Turismo to come out?
2:01:27
I mean, the last Gran Turismo I saw was Gran Turismo Sport.
2:01:30
Which that one was, I think it was all supposed to be like multiplayer online
2:01:35
racing based and not much of like a campaign or anything like you get with
2:01:39
all the other forces and everything.
2:01:41
I don't know.
2:01:41
Apparently this one, they've they're going back to the heyday of grand
2:01:44
Turismo, which I guess would be like what grand Turismo three, two, two or three.
2:01:50
So I think they've kind of gone back to that campaign mode style
2:01:54
and added back in a lot of the.
2:01:56
Other, I guess, side features that that had, which were kind of the
2:01:59
nifty, silly things that was Gran Turismo, like buying the used cars.
2:02:05
And I thought that was the coolest thing.
2:02:07
Doing mods and like all that kind of stuff.
2:02:09
So they're bringing that back in.
2:02:11
I like the wheel swapping was my favorite.
2:02:13
You could get wheels on other cars.
2:02:15
Washing your car.
2:02:17
Oh, yeah, you could wash your car.
2:02:18
That was pretty cool.
2:02:19
One of my biggest gripes with the most recent Gran Turismo was the track
2:02:23
selection, I guess because Forza has so many tracks under contract, and
2:02:28
our licensing, you know, they own licensing to all these different tracks.
2:02:31
As HPDE people, we drive a whole bunch of different tracks around the country
2:02:34
and everything, and you couldn't drive some of those in, Gran Turismo
2:02:38
because they just didn't have them.
2:02:40
I don't know that there were any tracks that I was actually
2:02:42
interested in, in Gran Turismo.
2:02:44
I think that's still the case in seven.
2:02:46
Cause I had pulled up a track list and they really don't, it seemed
2:02:48
like a high percentage of what seemed like made up tracks versus actual.
2:02:55
Tracks forces seems to have a lot more actual tracks when I was a kid.
2:02:59
I used to love driving those made up tracks.
2:03:01
Cause I didn't know I've actually been on, or this doesn't interest me at all.
2:03:06
Oh, you don't, you don't want to drive autumn Valley or whatever that is.
2:03:09
You know, Forza has Naples Valley, right?
2:03:11
So it's all good.
2:03:15
So let's switch over to our HPD junkie trackside report.
2:03:19
I got a note from Dave Peters the other day, you know, they are still
2:03:23
backfilling tons of events into the system for the 2022 season.
2:03:27
Feels like a lot of people are making up for lost time.
2:03:29
He told me the other day that at Thunder Hill alone, they just entered
2:03:34
75 events and apparently there's like 80 more for that track itself this year.
2:03:39
And I'm like, they must be doing something.
2:03:41
Every day of the week out there in California.
2:03:43
So he's keeping up the date on that kind of stuff.
2:03:46
So there's a lot more information being pushed to the website right now.
2:03:49
So if you want to know what's going on in February and March, hop over to hpdjunkie.
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com and search by track to make it much easier to say, Hey,
2:03:56
what's going on in my area.
2:03:57
And you can actually see what's going on from now until the end of the year.
2:04:00
And obviously it continues to prune itself, expand and contract and all that.
2:04:03
But I do want Want to announce on behalf of our sponsors
2:04:07
are very hooked on driving.
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As a reminder, they are going to be at VIR at the beginning of
2:04:11
March on March 3rd and March 4th.
2:04:13
This is like one of the earliest events in the DMV on the schedule right now.
2:04:19
There might be something a little bit earlier, but that's pretty early
2:04:22
for this area to have a track event followed very soon after by New Jersey
2:04:27
motor sports park, they're going to be at Thunderbolt on April 9th and 10th.
2:04:30
And then.
2:04:32
Two weeks after that, they'll be at Watkins Glen for a three day spring
2:04:37
fling from April 29th, 30th, and May 1st.
2:04:41
So they're doing their fall event in the spring as well
2:04:45
now, three days at Watkins Glen.
2:04:47
And then it goes from there, right?
2:04:48
They're at Pocono, A couple more times or Lime Rock and Summit Point, you know,
2:04:52
Summit Point is back on the schedule.
2:04:54
They're at Shenandoah for June 18th and 19th and things like that.
2:04:58
And I also want to give a shout out to Mike and Mona.
2:05:00
They're actually going to be on the show next week, kicking off season three.
2:05:06
So you get to hear all about HOD and what their program is like.
2:05:10
And some really cool behind the scenes content where Mike actually turns
2:05:14
the tables on me and interviews me.
2:05:18
during that behind the scenes Patreon minisode.
2:05:20
So be sure to check that out next week when it hits our main server.
2:05:24
You know, I mentioned this is the end of season two.
2:05:26
This is the last episode of season two.
2:05:29
And I just wanted to kind of just do a quick retrospective for the folks that
2:05:33
Maybe listening to the show for the first time, you know, this is going to be the
2:05:36
first episode at the top of the list.
2:05:39
If you want to go back and want to know when season two started,
2:05:42
look for the vet motor sports episode with Peter Klein, right?
2:05:46
Where we talk about their program to get disabled veterans back into
2:05:52
the motor sports world and all these kinds of programs that they have and
2:05:54
how they facilitate that and whatnot.
2:05:56
We also had, what should I buy?
2:05:57
Ugly cars, parts one and two and nineties cars.
2:06:00
We kicked off an entire crossover month in the middle of the summer.
2:06:03
We had Brian from take two podcasts on, we talked about a bunch of car related
2:06:07
movies and shows and things like that.
2:06:08
We had Steven Izzy from everything I learned from movies on twice this season.
2:06:12
We had a lot of fun with them.
2:06:13
We look forward to doing more projects in the future.
2:06:15
John Warner the fourth author of the little Anton series
2:06:18
and noted Portia historian.
2:06:20
He also has a podcast.
2:06:21
We did a crossover with him and a shout out to Carolyn Ford and Mark
2:06:25
Sonnell from the tech transforms podcast, where we talked about the
2:06:28
intersection of it and the racing world as a crossover episode as well.
2:06:33
We also had a ton of interviews, awesome interviews with Rob Holland,
2:06:37
Bobby Parks, David Middleton, Chris Bright from CPX, and our favorite,
2:06:40
you got a guy, Paul Willemoski.
2:06:43
Yeah, we did a ton of technical episodes too.
2:06:45
We had Andrew Rains on from Apex Pro.
2:06:47
We interviewed the folks over at Liqui Moly.
2:06:50
We talked to Blackstone Joe over at Blackstone Labs, which
2:06:53
is also a crossover episode.
2:06:55
We interviewed James Clay, both for Powerflex and for Bimber World.
2:06:59
And we talked to Sal Finelli over at Porsche Diesel USA.
2:07:02
And to prove that we do more than just take laps and do HPD, we
2:07:06
talked off roading, we talked drag racing, we talked lunar racing.
2:07:09
I mean, who talks lunar racing these days?
2:07:11
We do.
2:07:12
That's who we also celebrated gingerman raceways 25th anniversary.
2:07:17
And we did a retrospective with summit point, looking back over their
2:07:22
50 year history, dove into both of the backgrounds of those tracks and
2:07:26
their evolutions and what the future looks like for those two facilities.
2:07:29
And there are 56 episodes to catch up on from season two alone, not counting all of
2:07:35
the bonus and behind the scenes content.
2:07:36
If you sign up for Patreon, you know, I can't pick a best of articles for
2:07:40
season two because there are 640 drive through articles that we have
2:07:46
reviewed on this particular sub arc.
2:07:49
Of the break, fix podcast.
2:07:51
So there's a lot to catch up on there.
2:07:53
There are a lot of fun and don't forget one of our favorite link to the drive
2:07:57
through episodes has to be this year's.
2:08:00
We would be remiss retrospective where Tanya rants about all things Tesla.
2:08:06
And we would love to give some big shout outs to all our
2:08:09
guests hosts during season two.
2:08:10
David drew Andrews, David L Middleton, Donovan, Laura, Mark Shank, mountain
2:08:15
man, Dan, and especially Tanya.
2:08:17
And yeah, we have to shout out Tanya for helping us out.
2:08:19
Especially while I've been away.
2:08:21
And if you've missed out some of the winter episodes on the podcast, we
2:08:26
celebrated our 100th episode with a crossover with our friend, Steven
2:08:30
Izzy from everything I learned from movies where we reviewed the
2:08:33
seventies cult classic Corvette summer.
2:08:37
Andrew Bank and Mike Kuchavik from Havoc Performance told the tale of two vipers,
2:08:42
and we cranked up the Wayback Machine by revisiting a Patreon minisode called Toro
2:08:47
Toro, where we chat with Jason Kennedy from Auto Interests about their humble
2:08:51
beginnings in the Ford Taurus Club.
2:08:53
Thank you to everyone that came on the show this month, and please
2:08:56
look forward to more great episodes this spring, and don't forget,
2:09:00
March officially kicks off Season 3!
2:09:03
Can you believe it?
2:09:04
I don't know.
2:09:04
Can you believe it?
2:09:06
So we do have some new Patreons for February.
2:09:10
What do we got there, Brad?
2:09:11
I've got to give a big shout out to Todd, the saber toothed goat
2:09:15
tiger, Lily, and he's also the recipient of this year's GTMer award.
2:09:19
So if you're a Patreon member, you would have heard the GTM awards
2:09:22
night that was recorded during Rolex.
2:09:25
He would have heard his name.
2:09:26
Uh, we also have a special thanks to our new sponsor, Mike
2:09:29
Kuchavik of Havoc Performance.
2:09:31
That's right.
2:09:31
And remember folks, everything that we talked about on this episode and more is
2:09:36
available on our website, gtmotorsports.
2:09:39
org.
2:09:40
So be sure to check on the follow on article so you can dive into
2:09:43
all the Florida man stories.
2:09:44
Tesla technological advancements, or maybe that Ferrari SUV that we talked about.
2:09:49
So that's all available on our website.
2:09:51
There's links pretty much everywhere.
2:09:52
And remember there's bonus and behind the scenes contents on patreon.
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com.
2:09:57
So that's patreon.
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com forward slash GT Motorsports.
2:10:00
And we would be remiss if we didn't shout out some anniversaries.
2:10:03
This year is eight years with GTM.
2:10:05
It's Tanya and I, Eric, of course is a lifelong GTM er, but
2:10:09
officially eight years as well.
2:10:11
Uh, we also have some, some other OG original gangster GTM ers like
2:10:15
Mountain Man Dan, uh, and Portia Al.
2:10:18
That's it.
2:10:20
Well, we didn't have a special guest host this month as we close out
2:10:24
season two, but look forward to other returning guests in season three,
2:10:29
some really cool stuff that we have planned some exciting new interviews,
2:10:33
racers, and other ideas that we're going to put together for season three.
2:10:37
As we've mentioned before, if you have an interest on being on the
2:10:40
show, don't hesitate to reach out to us, call or text, email us, etc.
2:10:44
But if you'd like to be a guest host on the drive through, we always have a spot
2:10:48
and you're always welcome to come on and share your opinion, share your stories.
2:10:51
We'd love to have you.
2:10:53
So I guess I got a shout out to Brad.
2:10:55
Thanks for being here, closing out 56 long episodes of season two.
2:11:00
And I'm looking forward to where season three takes us.
2:11:02
Well, thank you for appreciate my spot.
2:11:05
And I'd like taken also, it's a big spot to fill my man.
2:11:10
There's big shoes.
2:11:11
It's a very big seat to fill, I must admit.
2:11:14
Uh, and then also a shout out to the executive producer, co host, uh, and owner
2:11:19
of the podcast, whether she likes it or not, Tanya, whether she knows it or not.
2:11:25
The drive thru wouldn't be the drive thru without time.
2:11:28
That's for sure.
2:11:29
We'd all be living in Florida and GTM without you, none of
2:11:33
this would be, that's right.
2:11:34
Well, until next season, I guess this is us signing off.
2:11:39
Thanks for being aboard for all of season two.
2:11:41
Watch out for that Sunshine
2:11:45
and we're out bus
2:11:56
cars in back of us all just waiting to order.
2:11:59
There's some idiot in a Volvo with us.
2:12:01
Brights on behind me.
2:12:03
I lean out the window and scream, Hey, watch.
2:12:06
Trying to do blind me.
2:12:08
My wife says, maybe we.
2:12:14
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