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Robert Murray’s latest report on Cody Bellinger and Bo Bichette + Yankees next move after Weathers add · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Cody Bellinger star had been a superstar. He's a star.
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  Speaker 1: What are you hearing about not just his market, but
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  Speaker 1: the Yankees' willingness to maybe change how they go at
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  Speaker 1: certain free agents.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, as far as Bellinger goes, the Yankees to me,
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  Speaker 2: have been by far and away the best option for Bellinger.
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  Speaker 2: They know exactly what he is. He thrived in that laup.
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  Speaker 2: He loved playing in New York, and he's played in
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  Speaker 2: New York, Chicago and LA and he's thrived in all
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  Speaker 2: three cities. And you have him in your lineup along
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  Speaker 2: with Aaron Judge. That gives you a really strong foundation
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  Speaker 2: to build around and you. I mean, obviously if they
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  Speaker 2: signed Bellinger, they'd have to continue to do more. But
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  Speaker 2: Bellinger is the most important piece of their offseason. So
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  Speaker 2: if they can get him, that would be huge for them.
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  Speaker 2: I do think that will end up getting done at
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  Speaker 2: some point. We're not at that point quite yet. We've
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  Speaker 2: seen the reports about a five year offer for about
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty five million that has not gotten done.
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  Speaker 2: Whether it's adding years or adding more money to that
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  Speaker 2: five year offer, I expect Bellinger to end up being
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  Speaker 2: back with the Yankees. It's just taking a lot longer
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  Speaker 2: that I think both sides would prefer. But also you
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  Speaker 2: can think of a different team possibly hopping in, or
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  Speaker 2: maybe you can see a team that misses out on
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  Speaker 2: Kyle Tucker going after a player like Bellinger, or you
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  Speaker 2: can even see a team like this is totally like
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  Speaker 2: speculative on Miami. But you look at the San Francisco Giants.
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  Speaker 2: You have their spring training complex very close to where
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  Speaker 2: he grew up here in Arizona. Gets them back in
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  Speaker 2: the West Coast. I mean, they obviously have another need
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  Speaker 2: for a bat, so I could see that being a fit.
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  Speaker 2: But I expect at the end of the day for
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  Speaker 2: him to be back in New York being in a Bronx.
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  Speaker 1: Two of my locks for the offseason were Alex Bregman
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  Speaker 1: to the Red Sox and Bellinger to the Yankees. If
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  Speaker 1: because you just said you feel like this is gonna
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  Speaker 1: happen for the Yankees, what if it doesn't, because we
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  Speaker 1: saw the Red Sox pivot to Ranger Suarez real quick.
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  Speaker 1: But what if the Yankees don't get Cody Bellinger, Obviously
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna stay on the surface.
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  Speaker 3: Ah.
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  Speaker 1: We love our team, we love our roster and fangrafts
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  Speaker 1: and everybody will say, yes, it's still a good team. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because they have Aaron Judge. Without Cody Bellinger, where's that
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  Speaker 1: pivot and where are a month from pitchers and catchers reporting.
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  Speaker 2: That would be a huge blow to their offseason. There's
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  Speaker 2: no if sands or butts about that. Bellinger is their
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  Speaker 2: top priority. They've made that incredibly clear all off season.
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  Speaker 2: So let's say he goes somewhere else. Do you look
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  Speaker 2: at the frager market where Bolbachett is out there? Do
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  Speaker 2: you look at the trade market and maybe try to
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  Speaker 2: get like a large now Bar type from the Cardinals
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  Speaker 2: or a Brendan Donovan or Nuko Horner. I mean, there's
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of different bats are out there. We've obviously
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  Speaker 2: seen katl Marte's name around, but Arizona's taken his name
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  Speaker 2: off of the market. But that is that, to me,
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  Speaker 2: would be a doomsday scenario here for the Yankees, because
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  Speaker 2: to me, there's no way of positively spinning that because
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  Speaker 2: you're supposed to be the Yankees, like the big, big
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  Speaker 2: bad Yankees, big market team, where you're supposed to be
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  Speaker 2: able to out spend anyone, and you could possibly lose
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  Speaker 2: the Juan Soto last offseason, and then you lose Cody
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  Speaker 2: Bellinger in a consecutive offseason. That would be a pr
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  Speaker 2: nightmare if you're the ownership group, if you're Brian Cashman,
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  Speaker 2: or anyone involved in that decision, in that decision, which
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  Speaker 2: is why I think it ultimately ends up happening. I
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  Speaker 2: just I think the fit for both sides is just
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  Speaker 2: so clear and so obvious that it just almost makes
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  Speaker 2: too much sense for it not to happen. But as
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  Speaker 2: you said, I felt the same way about Bregman and
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  Speaker 2: the Red Sox. I thought that was a matter of when,
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  Speaker 2: not if. And now he's having his introductory press conference
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  Speaker 2: in Chicago for the Cubs, So anything can happen for
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  Speaker 2: agency as a crapshoot, as they say, but that one
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  Speaker 2: I'll never call anything. Locke. I think that's a very
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  Speaker 2: game to play. But I feel good about that.
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  Speaker 4: Why why haven't the Yankees and Bellinger been able to
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  Speaker 4: figure this out? Like it's been a while now and
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  Speaker 4: we haven't. You know, we've heard little snippets back and forth.
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  Speaker 4: What's holding this up? Is it simply money? Is it years?
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  Speaker 3: Like? What have you been hearing? If anything?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, at this point, it's years. And you can also
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  Speaker 2: say the case for money as well. He is getting
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  Speaker 2: offered five years from the Yankees and or you know,
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  Speaker 2: he's getting offered five years from the Yankees and he
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  Speaker 2: wants seven years. So that is obviously a gap and
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  Speaker 2: they have not been able to bridge that gap by
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  Speaker 2: any means here. And that's why I think you can
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  Speaker 2: end up maybe finding a solution where you put more
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  Speaker 2: money into a five year offer, maybe throw some incentives
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  Speaker 2: or whatever else they could possibly try to throw into
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  Speaker 2: incentivize him to take it. So I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: the Yankees will be willing to go to seven years,
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  Speaker 2: so I think it would have to be that route
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  Speaker 2: as of this point. That's that's my feel.
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  Speaker 3: Now let's go to Bowlbaschett.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, this guy is just waiting in the wings
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  Speaker 4: too for somebody to come scoop him up. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: a good ballplayer. I love everything about the kid man.
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  Speaker 4: I got to be honest with you. Came back, went
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  Speaker 4: to second base, wasn't afraid to go over there to
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  Speaker 4: play and be in a positioned to help his team
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  Speaker 4: win a World Series?
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  Speaker 3: What are you hearing about him?
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  Speaker 4: And like, let me ask you, this is this a
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  Speaker 4: guy like a backup plan for some teams. Are they
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  Speaker 4: waiting to hear how other guys go or is this
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  Speaker 4: or is this like a priority for some teams and
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  Speaker 4: if so, who Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You can easily look at it as a priority here
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  Speaker 2: for the Philadelphia Phillies, where they had that meeting with
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  Speaker 2: him on Monday, and by all accounts I went very well.
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  Speaker 2: And as someone reminded me of the other day, like,
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  Speaker 2: when is the last time we've heard of a meeting
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  Speaker 2: not going well? I think the next one that we
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  Speaker 2: hear that doesn't go well would be the first. So,
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  Speaker 2: but it's clear that the Phillies are very interested in
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  Speaker 2: Bowl Baschett. And we even heard Jeff pass And say
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  Speaker 2: yesterday that people believe that the Phillies are going to
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  Speaker 2: be in a position where they can offer the most money.
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  Speaker 2: And I wouldn't not really, I wouldn't disagree with that whatsoever.
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  Speaker 2: But there's other teams that are going to be in
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  Speaker 2: the mix here as well. Let's say the Blue Jays
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  Speaker 2: don't get Kyle Tucker, do they go after bow Bashette
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  Speaker 2: and increase their pursuit there? To me, the other option
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  Speaker 2: here would be the Boston Red Sox they just lost
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  Speaker 2: out on Alex Bregman. And you look at Bashett, he's
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  Speaker 2: four years younger, he's incredibly productive. You sign him, you
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  Speaker 2: add some youth to that roster. You also add a
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  Speaker 2: huge option in the in the lot up there. Not
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  Speaker 2: necessarily a big power guy by any means, but he's
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  Speaker 2: a really freaking good player, and I think that's something
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  Speaker 2: that they should really strongly consider if you're the Red Sox,
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  Speaker 2: because you sign him, you make yourself better and you
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  Speaker 2: weaken a division rival in the Toronto Blue Jays. You
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  Speaker 2: can also look at some other options there for the
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  Speaker 2: Red Sox and in the infield there, maybe you can
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  Speaker 2: end up trading some of your outfield depth to end
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  Speaker 2: up improving the infield there. But Bishett, whether it's one
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  Speaker 2: of those three teams or if it's the Yankees, whether
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  Speaker 2: it's the Dodgers, his market is incredibly deep and I
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  Speaker 2: expect him to do very very well in free agency.
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  Speaker 1: Yere better than other second basements. And is he totally
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  Speaker 1: out as is he totally out as a shortstop for
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  Speaker 1: all these teams? Is there a chance there's a team,
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  Speaker 1: Because if there's a team, a season is a shortstop
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  Speaker 1: that value for teams, they plug it in their collusion calculator,
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  Speaker 1: it goes higher.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely think there's a chance that he can
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  Speaker 2: be a shortstop next season. Do other teams possibly view
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  Speaker 2: him as a guy who could play a different position. Absolutely,
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  Speaker 2: Like he's got the positional flexibility where he can play
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  Speaker 2: a second base, and we watched him do that in
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  Speaker 2: the postseason in the World Series. And if it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: for the Dodgers's comeback, you're making the case with that
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  Speaker 2: clutch homer where he could possibly be the World Series MVP.
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  Speaker 2: He would have been one of the stronger candidates there
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  Speaker 2: for sure if the Blue Jays ended up winning it.
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  Speaker 2: But I mentioned on the last time I talked to
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  Speaker 2: him the show, and I'll say it again, I have
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  Speaker 2: not talked to a team who believes that Bolbashek cannot
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  Speaker 2: play shortstop. They all think he can. But he's also
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  Speaker 2: got the ability to play other positions, which I think
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  Speaker 2: is going to be in his favor this offseason.
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  Speaker 1: One of the things we talk about with Tucker is, ooh,
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  Speaker 1: the injury. Have you heard anything come up about his injury?
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  Speaker 1: Boba Schett's injury at the end of the season. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: he came back and played in the World Series, which
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  Speaker 1: was awesome. He did great, he swung well, he ran
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  Speaker 1: like Todd yesterday, like Cement's shoes. There was nothing there.
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  Speaker 1: Is there any fear that that could hurt his value
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  Speaker 1: or is all the news you're hearing. Nope, he's one
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  Speaker 1: hundred percent and he'll be back to the same speed
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  Speaker 1: that he was before.
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  Speaker 2: I have not heard any concerns there whatsoever as far
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  Speaker 2: as bashek Goes or even a guy like Kyle Talker.
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  Speaker 2: And I know Tucker has an extensive, extensive injury history
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  Speaker 2: where he's missed some time and even fought through that
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  Speaker 2: finger injury last here where the fracture between two of
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  Speaker 2: his fingers. He played through it obviously did not have
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  Speaker 2: the same success, but I expect both to do just fine.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't heard any concerns about that at all this offseason,
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  Speaker 2: so I don't think it's on the teams's minds. But
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  Speaker 2: I mean maybe, but I have not heard that.
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  Speaker 5: Oh go ahead, crats. Actually I was gonna ask what
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  Speaker 5: you're gonna ask, and you're gonna ask it more fun
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  Speaker 5: than me, because who knows, maybe todd father will catch
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  Speaker 5: another stray as you ask a question.
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  Speaker 1: Todd wasn't even listening we used to call Todd old
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  Speaker 1: Cement's shoes Todd, and then he goes out and steals faces,
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  Speaker 1: just like Paul.
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  Speaker 3: I used to steal on you all day, bro.
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  Speaker 1: I actually looked it up before I said that, So, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I just got to make sure.
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  Speaker 3: You don't lee high Valley I used to. I think
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  Speaker 3: I got two bags in one game.
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  Speaker 2: WHOA look at that? I mean, how do you how
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  Speaker 2: do you respond to that?
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  Speaker 1: That's that's just the life that I live. I'm a
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  Speaker 1: buffoon two oh nine hitter, Robert two nine hittery.
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  Speaker 2: My favorite player recovered though you got that honor on
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  Speaker 2: your cap there, I mean, that's me.
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  Speaker 3: What is that?
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  Speaker 4: That is the most heinous and awkward moment right now
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  Speaker 4: in sports history.
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  Speaker 3: He's not the best guy you've ever covered. That's ridiculous,
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  Speaker 3: he said, favorite.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, I'm not kidding you. You should have seen
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  Speaker 2: he took a young Robert Murray under his wing, and
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  Speaker 2: he was incredible to me. I'll never forget it. He
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  Speaker 2: was incredible to me. That's that's my guy forever.
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  Speaker 4: He probably asked for money afterwards too, because of what
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  Speaker 4: he did for you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's funny.
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  Speaker 1: I like that friendship friendship, Dudes, I had no friends.
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  Speaker 1: My question is Nolan Aeronado trade to Arizona. We can
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  Speaker 1: sit here and say, oh, he's only getting paid five
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  Speaker 1: million dollars. Oh, you know he's getting six the next year.
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  Speaker 1: Cardinals are eating so much money they didn't get anything back.
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  Speaker 1: Why am I bored of this trade? Is it because
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: I wanted it to happen last year, because I wanted
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  Speaker 1: Aeronaudo to be gone from from the Cardinals last year
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  Speaker 1: to have enough shot one more year, like closer to
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  Speaker 1: his prime. Or is it the fact that he could
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  Speaker 1: come out of the weeds and really come out and
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  Speaker 1: have some type of year that we don't expect once
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  Speaker 1: he goes to a different environment that isn't the Cardinals
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  Speaker 1: where he originally said I want to be traded to
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  Speaker 1: to play more playoff games, and he actually played more
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  Speaker 1: playoff games in Colorado than he did in his career
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  Speaker 1: in Saint Louis.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not the same player that he once was
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  Speaker 2: when he was with the Rockies and when he first
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  Speaker 2: ended up going over by the Cardinals, but he's still
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  Speaker 2: like you can make the case for the Hall of
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  Speaker 2: Fame for him in my eyes, and that to me
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  Speaker 2: should be exciting enough when it comes to the Diamondbacks here,
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  Speaker 2: and I give him credit for going out and making
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  Speaker 2: this move. And they didn't have to give up much turn.
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  Speaker 2: They gave up one prospect and you add that credibility
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  Speaker 2: to that lineup, and maybe you can convince a guy
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  Speaker 2: like Paul Goldschmid to come back to Arizona for a
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  Speaker 2: final ride or final rider two where he can end
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  Speaker 2: up having those two on the on the corners there
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  Speaker 2: once again in the same infield. So I like I
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  Speaker 2: applaud the Diamondbacks for doing it. And it's a shame
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  Speaker 2: that the Cardinals are doing like the sell off that
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  Speaker 2: they are, like, you can't expect them at this point
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  Speaker 2: to be very good now and just going forward for
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  Speaker 2: for quite some time. And it's a move that heim
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  Speaker 2: Bloom had had to make. It was clear that it
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  Speaker 2: was the decision that had to be made. But you
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  Speaker 2: look at that roster and you still look at the
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  Speaker 2: trade candidates that they have there as well. I mean Brendan,
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  Speaker 2: Brendan donov and Lars Newbar, Alec Burlison, all those guys
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  Speaker 2: are being asked about in trade talks and and they
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  Speaker 2: don't have to move any of them by any means.
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  Speaker 2: They can hold on to them and they can try
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  Speaker 2: to maintain their value, or they could try they could
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  Speaker 2: hold on to them and shop them at the deadline
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  Speaker 2: if they're not getting an offer. That's good enough for
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  Speaker 2: him right now. But still, you look at the youth
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  Speaker 2: on that team. It's going to be a lot of
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  Speaker 2: guys who are breaking into the big leagues or just
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  Speaker 2: just started in a big league So it might be
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  Speaker 2: rough here for a little bit for the Cardinals, but yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's a move they had to make.
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  Speaker 5: Robert. My last one for you is connected to the Diamondbacks.
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  Speaker 5: Gino Suarez was a big story at one point last
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  Speaker 5: year for how many homers he was hitting.
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  Speaker 3: I know he.
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  Speaker 5: Finished a little slow and his postseason had a big moment,
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  Speaker 5: but he also had plenty of slowly moments in terms
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  Speaker 5: of the overall body of work. Right it wasn't his
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  Speaker 5: best work at the plate. So my point here is
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  Speaker 5: that when we spoke about the Red Sox yesterday and
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  Speaker 5: what else they need to do for the rest of
• 14:29
  Speaker 5: the off season after the Ranger Suarez signing, AJ and
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  Speaker 5: I were kicking around, Okay, well, maybe they need a
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  Speaker 5: second or a third base, and that's been talked about
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  Speaker 5: for a while. We were going through third base market,
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  Speaker 5: we brought up Gino Suarez as one of the options,
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  Speaker 5: and it got slaughtered online. It wasn't even just slaughtering
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  Speaker 5: the Boston Fit. It was like him as a player.
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  Speaker 5: The amount of fans that replied, like, I don't want
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  Speaker 5: to touch that, he just strikes out, he's a poor defender.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, are we talking about the same player?
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  Speaker 1: Now?
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  Speaker 5: He's not a superstar and the home run numbers look superstarish,
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  Speaker 5: but there are they're parts of this game that are missing.
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  Speaker 5: I would not call him a bad defender. I would
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  Speaker 5: also not call him like a complete waste of everything else,
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  Speaker 5: Like he's not this. Is he the fastest?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 5: Is he the slowest?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 5: Does he bring you potentially fifty home runs to a
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  Speaker 5: lineup that I think could use that?
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  Speaker 3: Yes?
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  Speaker 5: So I just had a hard time kind of weighing
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  Speaker 5: what I was seeing and that fans basically would rather
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  Speaker 5: just stick with what they had versus add someone like
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  Speaker 5: Gino if he was the only option that they could
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  Speaker 5: figure out your.
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  Speaker 2: Thoughts, I'm stunned that they wouldn't want him. It's like you,
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  Speaker 2: I remember at the trade deadline, he was the most
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  Speaker 2: he was the hottest commodity. Every fan base wanted him,
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  Speaker 2: every team wanted him. There was teams bidding against one
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: another forum. I'm stunned to hear that. Obviously it didn't
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: go well with the Mariners this go around, but he's
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: coming off of a season where fifty homers was was
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: easily attainable. What I don't know necessarily the number that
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: he ended up finishing with, but it was very close
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: to that. So if you can end up adding him,
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: and if you're not gonna end up having to pay
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: what you do for like a Bushette or a Tucker
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: or anything like that, so you want a value play,
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: that's definitely a really good option there. But I would
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: understand why the fan base would be frustrated if you
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: don't go from like a or if you go from
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: a Bragmant type, possibly thinking Bishett and then you go
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: to a Suarez type, but still like, he's an incredibly
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: talented player, adds a huge boost to that lineup, and
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: you can think of all sorts of different teams like
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: you could think, I mean, shoot, I mean I can
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: think of a bunch of different teams could use a
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: guy like Gino Suarez like the Pirates would make a
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: lot of sense for him too. I haven't heard them
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: connected to Suarez by any means, but they were on
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: Okamoto and they obviously did not get him, So maybe
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: that could be a pivot for him, pivot for them.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: Maybe that could be a pivot for a bunch of
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: other teams. But don't I don't get the slander for
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: Gino Suarez whatsoever. He's a great player.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Forty nine home runs. I don't care if your turn.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: Forty nine home runs in a lineup is awesome. Last
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: comment here you said about how well I treated you.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: I was reminded of something today. We met in twenty eighteen.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: You just followed me on Twitter today. This is unbelievable, Like,
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: how could you have not followed me on Twitter? I
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: have tremendous content out there and you just followed me today.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: You're welcome, and I'm not mad about it.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: Dang, you don't follow me though.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm because I was waiting until you actually followed
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: me so we can follow each other.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: There we go. I'll love that.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: I haven't gotten the following notification quite yet, so until
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: I get that I'm mad at you.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: That's fair. I'm not mad.
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: It's like, it's like the couple that everyone thought should
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: always happen, but neither side wanted to make a move
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: and ask someone out. This is that on Twitter to friends,
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: lifelong friends that just won't press the follow button to
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: acknowledge that they've been friends for a very long time.
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: So I know Chris did something.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: I'm looking on Instagram. Now we don't follow each other
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: on Instagram. That's weird.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Oh well, sure, I'll follow all you boys on Instagram. Boy, Like,
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: everyone's there we go. I got the following notification from Todd.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: I'll follow him back right now. There we go. This
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: is the content that everyone craves, right right.
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: Everyone's like, hey, I'll take twenty minutes of Robert. I
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: want mostly talk about who's following who, although I guess
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: we did start the conversation that way, just who's Kyle
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: Tucker following? But anyway, Robert will let you get back
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: to it. Hopefully it breaks today. Thanks for joining us, dude,
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: always a blast.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Hey, thank you guys. I appreciate you, and hopefully hopefully
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: we can break some news today that'd be very fun.
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: Thanks we'll be on the lookout, yes, fingers crossed. All right,
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: we got Todd Father today who watches a lot of
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: Yankees and works for you us. During the season, Chris
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: Kershner and Brendan Coody from The Athletic wrote about the
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: Yankees trade for Ryan Weathers but also what's next. So
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: in the article they said they still need a horse.
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: They didn't expand their major league prospect capital to acquire
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: Weathers is and this wasn't a huge give up for
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: them in their mind, and I would say with much
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: of the industry also thinking, it's not like they gave
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: up the blue chip recruit at the top. Some of
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: those guys could end up being great players, but at
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: least for now, their write ups are not superstar right ups.
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: So an opposing scout in this article, actually you put
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: it this way quote the Yankees didn't trade anyone they'll
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: miss as usual, which is a discussion that we often have,
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: and that's actually something that's crafty that is underrated. The
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: Yankees are able to pump and promote their prospects. I
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: think the Dodgers do a nice job of this too,
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: but they know which ones they're supposed to be holding.
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: On to so they do a nice job of that
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: as well, or they just get stingy and deals and say,
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: we're not going to give up the guys that we
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: think are really special. So I'm sure they've gotten asked
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: about Cam Schlitzler in the past and they were like, Hey,
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: this guy's got high upside, he's not getting enough love,
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: and we think he's going to be a big deal,
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: so we keep them. But anyway, the other part of
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: this article talked about the fact that they still have
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: a pretty high intention of grabbing a starter that can
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: be more of a workhorse in their rotation top Father.
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: It sounds like they almost look at Weathers as a
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: guy who has significant room for growth. Right He's someone
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: who hasn't racked up a ton of innings. He's dealt
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: with injuries. Weathers actually spoke today, i think during the
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: show in his presser intro, saying here it is from
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: your boy, Jack Curry. He was shocked when he learned
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: the Yankees had acquire him. It's very early, but the
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: Yankees spoke to him about the possibility of using the
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: two seam fastball more to open up spots for his
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: four seamer. He only uses sinker four percent of the
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: time in twenty twenty five, and he had used it
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: twelve and a half percent of the time in twenty
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: twenty four. So you know that Yankees brass is already cranking,
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: trying to figure out how to make this guy another
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: success story for them in far as far as I wouldn't,
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: you know, whatever you want to call it pitching development
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: or pitching resurrection. So your thoughts on this move, but
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: then also what's next. It sounds like they're still in
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: play for a guy like Freddy Parlton.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I did like this move. I did.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: I you know, I thought it was a really good move.
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: If he's anything like his father Weather's, uh, they're gonna
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: love him. The guy was fun, loving dude. He was awesome.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: I played with him in the tail end of his career.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I think this was It was a good movie.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: It was calculated. Again, when you have prospects and you
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: have guys that other teams think that they're high on,
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: go ahead and trade them. They've seen teams in the
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: last couple of years that don't do that, and then
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: all of a sudden they lose, and all of a sudden, boom,
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: they don't want the prospects to turn into suspects. So
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: I do like this, they are going to need another guy.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: You know, with the injuries of Rodin, Freed, and Schmid,
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: they're gonna be on you know, on the shelf in
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: the beginning of the year. I don't think the Yankees
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: are done. I do think with Weathers, they're gonna you know,
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: maneuver some more pitches so he can be that much better.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: Another lefty. You always need more lefties. I love every
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: second of that. Again, is this gonna blow you off
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: the charts and be like, oh, the Yankees are World
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: Series champs? No, but it's a dive in there to
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: get somebody in there that can help out until these
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: big dogs come in and they they can move him
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: around to wherever they want to after that.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: The Yankees every off season, every off season in the
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: last like four or five years, they've made it a
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: concerted effort to say this is the guy we're going after,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: this is what we want. Rarely have they missed on
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: or been out bid, as everyone's like, oh, the Yankees
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: should never be out bid. They go after the guys
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: that they want. Rodan Aaron Judge did sign back but
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: he was a free agent. They wanted him, how wanted them,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: bang Re signed him, Carlos Rodan. What you think of
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: him now is irrelevant. In that offseason when he came
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: off of thrown for the Giants, that was the guy.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: That was the guy in the off season. Garret Cole
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Cashman said that was their white whale, got him Max Freed. Now,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: did they miss out on guys before then?
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Obviously, were they going on once yes? Did they get
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: to a level where they weren't comfortable and the Mets
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: were ultimately going to get him, no idea, but they
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: go out and get the guy. So as quiet as
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: this offseason has been for the Yankees, there has to
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: be somebody out there. There has to be a guy
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: out there who's going to be there starting pitching All
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Star representative besides Max Freed. I have no reason to
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: believe Max Freed is not going to be back in
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: the All Star Game. He's going to be back in
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: the All Star Game again. But those first three months April,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: May and June can set you on a path to
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: a successful season or a season where you are scratching
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: and clawn just to make the playoffs. And I have
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: a hard time believing that the lineup of the rotation
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: they have right now is the rotation that they think
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: can put them two games behind, three games ahead of
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: the Blue Jays, the Red Sox, the Orioles in the
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: American League East without that workhorse we're talking about right now,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: and I think I think they have to go get them.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: I don't think because they're not going to rush back Rodan,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: They're not going to rush back Cole. And you don't
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: know what you're gonna get of you months and months
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: and months of slitler. So there is there's concerted work
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: that's needed. I think the Yankees know it, and Cashman
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: always gets it done.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: They lost the bid for Edward Cabrera, but there were
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: already conversations. My guess is that these types of prospects
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: were brought up. These names, right, were probably brought up
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: in their discussions with the Marlins for Edward Cabrera, and
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: the Yankees were definitely going after him. The Cubs ended
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: up with him. It sounded like the Yankees weren't close
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: in terms of what their final trade proposal was, right.
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: They weren't throwing an Owen Casey level caliber player right
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: A guy that has the upside to be a really
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: legitimate outfielder, impact bat in a lineup, and who is
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: ready right now to play every day. Right, So then
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: you go, well, did you like these guys still looking
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: for pitching? And you know this, Todd Father, We've been
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: going over this a lot, even in the past twenty
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: four hours at the Red Sox and people like the
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: Red Sox have like ten starters. Now, great, you know what,
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: that's called a contending pitching staff. That's what you need.
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: That's a contending pitching staff because you need that to
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: get through a marathon. You need to get that through
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: the Al East, which should be the toughest division top
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: to bottom in baseball this year, and then how often
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: do you get to the playoffs and you're missing some guys.
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: So if you've got ten really nice options, that's what
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: you need these days, and the Yanks are trying to
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: do the same thing.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: The more the merrier options they're key, especially nowadays with
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: pitchers not throwing as many pitchers anymore and not going
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: deep into games too. I mean, you need your relievers
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: first and foremost, but if you have other starters out
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: looking at Dodgers at all, the injuries they had and
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: they still won the World Series. So opportunity arises, you're
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: going to get your chance. Just hold on, things do
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: happen and thinks shake up.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: For sure, you.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Want to be the best twenty six guys at the
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: end of the season when you make the playoffs. The
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Red Sox, yeah, they might have an issue, but the
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: really the fact is if two of those extra five
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: starters slot into the bullpen with their three high leverage guys,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: whoever it ends up being most likely Whitlock, White Shirt
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: and Chappie. You know, now you're just formulating a team
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: that has more depth and more ability to withstand the injuries,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: not if injuries, the injuries, because until a team figures
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: out how to not have pitchers get injured, that's what's
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: gonna happen. And if that is, the name of the
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: game is depth, and not just depth, but quality depth.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Sorry to all the Red Sox starting pitching prospects, you're
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: going to be in the bushes until somebody's needed. So
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: go down there, be red and you'll be the next
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: one up.
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: And now more than ever you're needed. Right, The Red
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: Sox ended up calling up a ton of prospects that
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: they didn't think they were going to need the Mets
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: did that. Almost every team ends up doing that where
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: they're like, oh, we didn't think we were going to
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: call this guy up this year, and then all of
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: a sudden, you're in a bind. Don't forget most guys
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: don't say it like it is or say that they're
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: pissed that they're now starting at the jump. But last
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: year we had a veteran and Marcus Stroman who said
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: ninety times I'm a starter, and five minutes later he
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: was a starter. Anyway, right, eventually not but five minutes
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: later he was a starter. It was what a week later,
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: Luis Heal I think got hurt and then he was
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: one of the five. So it happens very quickly. You're
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: going to get an opportunity.