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🔥 Altered TCG Beginners MUST Know THIS Before Playing! 🚀 | Ultimate Starter Guide · Archons Corner

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  Speaker 1: don't you get involved?
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  Speaker 2: Hey?
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  Speaker 3: How many should I see? And see them? Mark?
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  Speaker 4: Take a risk or take a chip?
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  Speaker 3: I felt through with the it next a young niggle,
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  Speaker 1: You admit that a black out if they acted out?
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  Speaker 3: I did that? All right, what's going on? Everybody? We're
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  Speaker 3: gonna get down to brass tacks. I am the one,
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  Speaker 3: the only, the w O O K. I E joined
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  Speaker 3: here by my two normal misfits. We got mister Cole
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  Speaker 3: Robbie Hello, Hello, and that creepy blonde kid that's in
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  Speaker 3: your physics class, dexter.
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  Speaker 2: I'm actually not in physics this semester. I'm doing that
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  Speaker 2: over summer school.
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  Speaker 3: But couldn't just roll with it? Could you remember what
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  Speaker 3: I said about the creepy kid? Yeah, well you know.
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  Speaker 3: But regardless of that, we got a bunch of questions. Obviously,
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  Speaker 3: we open up our Patreon most weeks to kind of
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  Speaker 3: I guess questions from you guys, whether that's good, bad,
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  Speaker 3: ugly and different kind of taking some and most of
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  Speaker 3: the questions seem to be that we're in season two,
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  Speaker 3: set to is out right, But we've got people that
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  Speaker 3: maybe have never seen this game, never played this game.
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  Speaker 3: I'm very interested in this game. Where do you point them,
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  Speaker 3: how do you get them started? And kind of how
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  Speaker 3: do you form the welcoming committee, I guess is the
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  Speaker 3: best way of putting it as far as bringing new
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  Speaker 3: people into the crackhouse, I mean your local lgs.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, this was prompted by a question and also a
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  Speaker 4: episode topic from Draconis, so I'll read how they were
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  Speaker 4: did it here. I have some new players coming aboard
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  Speaker 4: at my LGS, and their questions are what's set to
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  Speaker 4: invest more in? So that question itself is more about
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  Speaker 4: what to buy, which is of course one of the
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  Speaker 4: first places you start. But I figured we could also
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  Speaker 4: expand upon that a little further and talk about, you know,
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  Speaker 4: op getting people to your store.
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  Speaker 3: Because I think there's a big thing right right like,
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  Speaker 3: because I think, especially when you're first starting in any game,
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  Speaker 3: any CCG number one, how much time are you going
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  Speaker 3: to dedicate into this? Is this going to be more
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  Speaker 3: of a friendly free for all? Right? You're just going
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  Speaker 3: to kind of play around have fun or or are
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  Speaker 3: you going to go the Cole Robbie route and be
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  Speaker 3: super competitive? Right?
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  Speaker 4: You're competitive in the way of very willing to lose.
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  Speaker 3: Right, Well, I mean you got to you know what,
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  Speaker 3: to make an oblet, You got to crack a few eggs, right, So.
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  Speaker 4: You usually I just pour mine out of a cart.
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  Speaker 3: And well, I mean maybe that's the way to go
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  Speaker 3: right now, since they're about eight bucks a dozen. But
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  Speaker 3: you know, I think it's a very important question for
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  Speaker 3: people to ask themselves what route do I want to go?
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  Speaker 3: Because you can start in one route and move to
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  Speaker 3: the other, And it's easier to start in one and
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  Speaker 3: move to the other than start from the other and
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  Speaker 3: move to one. Now, luckily for us, this game is
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  Speaker 3: relatively cheap. I still don't think most cards are besides
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  Speaker 3: for uniques are really over the what five dollars mark?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, I would say two or three dollars.
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  Speaker 3: So it is it is wallet friendly, right, Because I've
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  Speaker 3: always been of the kind of the thought process. Right,
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  Speaker 3: if you're gonna go competitive out of the gate, and
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  Speaker 3: you know you want to get into this game, and
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  Speaker 3: you want to get into the competitive attitude, throw all
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  Speaker 3: the boxes, throw all the starters, just throw them away,
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  Speaker 3: don't even look at them. Go find a hero you
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  Speaker 3: like or a hero you think is competitive, and just
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  Speaker 3: net deck it, right, Go build that deck and start playing.
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  Speaker 2: I mean that's all you've done, Wookie, right.
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  Speaker 3: I mean I have I have two boxes of two
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  Speaker 3: boxes of course that. But other than that, I just
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  Speaker 3: I am a firm believer in buy singles right, Like
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to like you know, you know, copyright
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  Speaker 3: and fringe on the professor here, But I've always been
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  Speaker 3: a firm believer of that. It's gonna save yourself time
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  Speaker 3: and it's gonna save yourself money. And then if you
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  Speaker 3: have ideas later on down the road, you can always
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  Speaker 3: buy the singles and then test it out. It's a
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  Speaker 3: very easy thing to do.
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  Speaker 4: Yep. It'll may come a lot easier for altered when
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  Speaker 4: the market is out and the target, as far as
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  Speaker 4: I know, is still in quarter one of this year,
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  Speaker 4: so by end of next month at the latest.
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  Speaker 3: But even then, like right now, it's super eight easy.
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  Speaker 3: Is it a two Z card game or a Z
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  Speaker 3: card game?
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  Speaker 4: It's gamers guild, asy gam Yeah, they don't have Trial
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  Speaker 4: by Frost yet. Though, and I think that's because they're
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  Speaker 4: probably just waiting for the marketplace and then they're just
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  Speaker 4: going to unload the singles on that. Yeah. So I
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  Speaker 4: I broke this down based on not buying singles, and
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  Speaker 4: I put together a little graphic that has three three
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  Speaker 4: different tiers. It's over on the current event type of
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  Speaker 4: our sheet. So I'll break this down to YouTube and
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  Speaker 4: then you guys can tell me how you feel your
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  Speaker 4: experience where you would tweak or ad and I'll share
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  Speaker 4: this graphic as well in our live chat and then
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  Speaker 4: I'll probably put it on socials or something. I'll make
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  Speaker 4: it a lot prettier when I put it on socials.
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  Speaker 4: I just throw it together really quick.
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  Speaker 3: That's pretty Pratt's.
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  Speaker 4: I quickly edited it from like a construction like bulldozer
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  Speaker 4: term sheet or something. That's why it's yellow and black
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  Speaker 4: like a cat. But the very very base tire I'm
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  Speaker 4: calling low tier this. This is my opinion on how
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  Speaker 4: you should start. If you want to spend the least
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  Speaker 4: amount of money, you should pick one starter deck, which
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  Speaker 4: is about eight to fifteen dollars right now, and then
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  Speaker 4: you should just buy boosters when you are able to
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  Speaker 4: or when you want to to continue to build from there.
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  Speaker 4: It's going to be about thirty dollars if you buy
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  Speaker 4: a starter deck and four booster packs to start out.
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  Speaker 3: Now here's the question. I got a question for you.
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  Speaker 3: Be you ready for this?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Because there are definitely some hero is in the starter
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  Speaker 3: decks that are easier than others. Who, if I am
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  Speaker 3: a player getting into this, probably.
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  Speaker 4: Did you.
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  Speaker 3: I don't even get to ask the questions like I don't.
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  Speaker 4: Pick me and he gives the wrong answer.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, who would I pick? The right answer is I
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  Speaker 3: think Sicky is probably the easiest.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So Siggy is unfortunately the best answer to give
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  Speaker 4: because ninety percent of people, even if they're not competitive,
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  Speaker 4: they want to win. And the strongest starter deck and
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  Speaker 4: the easiest one to play is probably the Siggist smart deck.
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  Speaker 4: And then it's going to be easier to find different
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  Speaker 4: things to just expand on that. Now, I personally would say,
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  Speaker 4: pick which starter deck resonates with you the most as
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  Speaker 4: a person and then go from there. But a lot
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  Speaker 4: of people don't do that well.
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  Speaker 3: And it's where where you get what am I trying
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  Speaker 3: to say? Or where you get kind of in the
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  Speaker 3: weeds on that one is like, okay, so if I'm
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  Speaker 3: I'm Wookie right, and I you know, number one, I've
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  Speaker 3: been around card games for a very long time. A
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  Speaker 3: lot of people that are playing card games have not
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  Speaker 3: been around card games for a long time, or that
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  Speaker 3: are new coming in. Some of them, especially in this realm,
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  Speaker 3: are coming from a very board game atmosphere, so it's
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  Speaker 3: it's very different, right. So I mean I picked Lyra
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  Speaker 3: up because I kind of just I liked the flavor
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  Speaker 3: right going into it, I knew it probably wasn't going
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  Speaker 3: to be the most competitive. I'm like half right, I
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  Speaker 3: feel on that one because Lyra still like always has
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  Speaker 3: like a top eight for some reason. But you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's just one of those things where it's like picking
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  Speaker 3: the one, like oh, I like yeasmir. Right. There's a
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  Speaker 3: good example because I think when we first got the
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  Speaker 3: starter decks and it looks at the starter decks, everyone
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  Speaker 3: thought Yazmir was gonna be, Oh, it's gonna be It's
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  Speaker 3: gonna be a really busted starter, and it turned out
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  Speaker 3: to not do so hot.
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  Speaker 2: The starter was not good at all, and it's.
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  Speaker 3: Not right like the Yazmir starter needs a lot of
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  Speaker 3: help where a lot of.
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  Speaker 4: New players also don't understand the after you mechanic yet.
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  Speaker 4: So it also makes the starter deck a little harder
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  Speaker 4: because it's it's Akesha, right.
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  Speaker 3: Like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Doing demos for the game and watching people play Akesha,
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  Speaker 4: most often their response is why would I ever want
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  Speaker 4: to use that ability?
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  Speaker 3: But then because the alter its kind of an odd game, right,
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  Speaker 3: Like you don't want to go like every other game.
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  Speaker 3: You kind of want to go first, accept this game
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  Speaker 3: where you're like, I want information first and then I
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  Speaker 3: can make up my mind.
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  Speaker 4: Yep. So it becomes a lot stronger of a hero
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  Speaker 4: when you know more so the game in and out.
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  Speaker 3: So I would say, like, is a very strong starter. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: And man, I want to say, Bravos is the other
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  Speaker 3: strong starter.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Kojo getting Buddha every other turn is usually pretty good.
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  Speaker 3: Fire Dog Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Fire Dog, ye, the fire Dog usually pretty good For
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  Speaker 4: new players. The moona starter deck is pretty good, but
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  Speaker 4: it's also a little a little more getting used to
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  Speaker 4: because you need to build up, you need to plan
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  Speaker 4: around ay and kream things like that. So if you're
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  Speaker 4: picking based on winning.
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  Speaker 3: Or I'm picking on like ease of use, if that
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  Speaker 3: makes sense, right and not necessarily winning, but like, I
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  Speaker 3: feel like those are two starters that someone who number
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  Speaker 3: one maybe is new to card games but also is
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  Speaker 3: new to alter but also maybe new to card games
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  Speaker 3: can pick up, learn and have a good time, you know,
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  Speaker 3: even even win a handful of games with right. Probably
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  Speaker 3: not going to beat a seasoned player, but you know,
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  Speaker 3: they they they're going to have a good time playing
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  Speaker 3: it right. They'll probably win a few games, and they'll
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  Speaker 3: probably lose a few games. But like, they're not overly complex.
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  Speaker 3: There's nothing in them that's going to like, oh but
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  Speaker 3: I gotta do this, and then I gotta I gotta
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  Speaker 3: bounce cards from my reserve back to my hand and
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  Speaker 3: then play cards from my hand and then put them
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  Speaker 3: back in reserve, and then do the hokey poke turn
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  Speaker 3: myself about and then you know what I mean, There's
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  Speaker 3: no there's that head spinning is not there. They're super
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  Speaker 3: I feel, super straightforward, easy to pick up and play quickly,
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  Speaker 3: and there's no frustration there.
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  Speaker 4: Yep, yep. I think the Artist Deck and the Bravos Deck.
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  Speaker 4: If you're picking starters based on ease of entry, those
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  Speaker 4: are definitely the top two picks, Lyra. If you know
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  Speaker 4: going into it. It's going to be chaos and gambling
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  Speaker 4: if you like pain lyra Yeah, that's usually exactly how
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  Speaker 4: I warned people. I'm like, if you want to play
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  Speaker 4: this deck, just know it's like gambling, and then whether
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  Speaker 4: the person was interested in that or not depend on
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  Speaker 4: if they.
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  Speaker 3: And that's exactly what drew me to Novenka right. Was
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  Speaker 3: like when my buddy Domino explained it to me, He's like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: she likes to roll dice, and I was like, gambling.
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  Speaker 3: I'm in. I'm a degenerate gambler. I gamble. I don't
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  Speaker 3: gamble often, but you're telling me I can gamble for
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  Speaker 3: eight dollars and nineteen cents. I'm in.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And the starter deck does not have Martin Gills,
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  Speaker 4: so it is very much a gamble. I think it
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  Speaker 4: actually only has Yeah, it only has one single word
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  Speaker 4: borospashion as well.
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  Speaker 3: So we'll see. I get it right in front of me.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm looking at the website and also, okay, the
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  Speaker 4: website lists all the cards if you want to check
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  Speaker 4: out the starter decks as well. So, but that's my
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  Speaker 4: low low tier thirty bucks moving into medium, and it
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  Speaker 4: is kind of quite a jump, but from my understanding
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  Speaker 4: this is still pretty low for a TCG. I suggest
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  Speaker 4: buying a booster box, either Kickstarter or retail, and then
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  Speaker 4: boosters when you're able to. Depending on which one you
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  Speaker 4: pick and what's available, you're looking at about one hundred
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  Speaker 4: and ten two hundred and sixty dollars now. My pick
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  Speaker 4: of which one for now is still the Kickstarter just
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  Speaker 4: based on everything you get. The packs have more cards,
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  Speaker 4: they have higher unique rates, they have cards rate anywhere else. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: And the only she with that is as of recording Friday,
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  Speaker 4: February seventh, the best price is about one hundred and
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  Speaker 4: forty five dollars.
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  Speaker 3: They're coming down and they're going up. For Kickstarter, they
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  Speaker 3: were at about one hundred and fifty hundred and sixty.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: They That's the hard part is they fluctuate because I
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  Speaker 4: am not sure how much stock of them Gamers Guild has. Well,
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  Speaker 4: they're not going to be forever, right, So I mean,
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  Speaker 4: if you see a Kickstarter box for under one forty, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you snatched that shit up as fast as you can. Otherwise,
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  Speaker 4: a retail box of Set one Beyond the Gates anywhere
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  Speaker 4: from ninety five to one hundred and ten ish game
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  Speaker 4: a lot of the prices I'm playing are from Gamers
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  Speaker 4: Guild Arizona one because they ship throughout the United States
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  Speaker 4: States too. They have the most stock from what we know,
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  Speaker 4: and they have the retail for seventy dollars right now,
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  Speaker 4: but that seems wow, very low, so I kind of
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  Speaker 4: went on the higher range. And then my last tier
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  Speaker 4: is the High Tier, which is a booster box of
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  Speaker 4: each so one from Beyond the Gates, one from Trial
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  Speaker 4: by Frost, and then Faction Break question Mark, but also
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  Speaker 4: Faction Break. You can do on any of these tiers,
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  Speaker 4: and if you want to focus on one faction, this
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  Speaker 4: is absolutely something that I would recommend for either set.
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  Speaker 4: And depending on if you split it between three people
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  Speaker 4: or six people, it's about fifteen to twenty three dollars
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  Speaker 4: a box, also depending on Kickstarter versus retail. Blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 4: That's kind of the three things I laid out. What
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  Speaker 4: what do you guys think from your experience, like what
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  Speaker 4: would you add in? What would you change?
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  Speaker 3: So I agree with with your A tier right, like
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  Speaker 3: a starter deck and just a handful of boosters, right
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  Speaker 3: YEA for that might be right, I really I'm not
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  Speaker 3: a buy for boosters and kind of leave it at that.
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  Speaker 3: If I'm going I'm slug it, right, I'm I'm a
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  Speaker 3: swing out of your shoes kind of guy. Right, so
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  Speaker 3: I'm I'm buying a box, right Like, It's just it's
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  Speaker 3: you're either all in or not right like where you know,
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  Speaker 3: where do you sit? But that's me, that's not for everybody, right,
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  Speaker 3: the B tier with your B tier, I still would
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  Speaker 3: recommend a starter deck of some sort whatever faction tickles
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  Speaker 3: your fancy, because it does get you a lot of
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  Speaker 3: those commons that you're gonna need. It's just a good base, right, Like,
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  Speaker 3: there's a lot I think in all of them, except
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  Speaker 3: for the Lyra one. Again, they come with a solid
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  Speaker 3: foundation of the cards you're going to need moving forward.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know if one box is going to
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  Speaker 3: get you all the commons in.
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  Speaker 2: It would take three boxes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can normally.
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  Speaker 2: Get all of the commons in one, but yep, to
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  Speaker 2: this is just one.
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  Speaker 3: Box for sure, right and I personally right now, I
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  Speaker 3: mean I would suggest, like, if you're brand new to
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  Speaker 3: this game, still focus on beyond the Gates. Yes, there
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  Speaker 3: are more cars. I don't I haven't had much experience
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  Speaker 3: with Trial by Frost. Yet you guys probably have had
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  Speaker 3: more experience than myself, but a majority of the foundation
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  Speaker 3: of your deck is still going to be Beyond the Gates.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, there's probably like maximum of like four card families
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  Speaker 2: that you're gonna add from Trial by Frost, So at
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  Speaker 2: least eighty percent of your deck is going to be
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  Speaker 2: set one, I think for now at least.
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  Speaker 3: And then see I would probably suggest two boxes of
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  Speaker 3: Beyond the Gates and one box a Trial by Frost,
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  Speaker 3: or just go three boxes of Beyond the Gates and
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  Speaker 3: then maybe see because without knowing where singles are coming from,
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: because I used to get mine from I always got
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  Speaker 3: mine from gamers Gill day Z. So we'll see how
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  Speaker 3: that kind of goes goes about. Faction breaks are awesome
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  Speaker 3: if you have a group of like like two, three,
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  Speaker 3: maybe four people and you can all get in for
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  Speaker 3: about thirty to sixty bucks right and crack a box
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  Speaker 3: and who you know, Oh you get this, you get this.
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  Speaker 3: You a great way to pick up the cards for
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  Speaker 3: the deck that you're looking to build on the pretty cheap.
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  Speaker 3: So I love fat Wheat. I mean, we've done faction
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  Speaker 3: breaks within the within the AC family, so I I
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: every time they're like anybody wanted to do a faction break,
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: I'm like I'm in because nothing's nothing's grimier than like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: you guys we pulled and oh we got the we
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  Speaker 3: pulled that god pack, right, yeah, and how how many
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  Speaker 3: I got? Zero? Pulled a god pack for crying out loud.
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  Speaker 3: I got no uniques out of that godpack. I was
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  Speaker 3: going for Lyra, but I got no uniques. And then
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: the one unique that did come from that box was
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  Speaker 3: a unique robin Hood post Nerves. It was like, right
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: as the nerve came out, I get the unique robin Hood.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, that's cool.
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: I guess since it was a faction break, you were
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: only out twenty five dollars.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: Right, I'm only out like twenty five thirty bucks instead
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: of like AE hundred and change, you know, so it
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: wasn't too bad. Like they are fun to watch. Obviously,
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: definitely do it with people you trust. Don't do it
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: or randos on the internet, you know, because obviously those
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: QR codes are like gold, so obviously we all trust
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: each other here, you know. So we were able to
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: do it quite easily, and it was a good time,
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: you know, it's it's fun getting on Discord watching somebody
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: oh crack over the packs and you know, and again,
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: if you got people in your local you can you
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: can do this locally even even more fun.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Yep, in person faction breaks are great.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it would be really cool to do in person.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: And just a quick explainer if you've made it this
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: far but don't fully know what we mean by faction break. Basically,
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: you buy a box, whatever box it is is you
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: predetermine who is wanting what faction. So I usually take Muna,
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: you know, Dexter will take Ordis, Wookie will take Lyra,
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: and every card that fits in your faction you get
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: out of the box. What we usually do for things
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: like foilers and whatnot is we put the packs into
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: piles equally, so we say these, you know, six packs
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: or whatever we're opening right now, or for Wookie the
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: next sect, the next six are for Dexter, and then
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: you get those whatever foilers you open, so it's a
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: little a little more fair. And yeah, on the tiers,
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: I tried. I tried to stay as low as I
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: could for me personally, what I mean, I guess I
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: could just say what I have done, but in a
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: perfect world. If I were to do it again, I
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: think I would get one Kickstarter box will Beyond the Gates,
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: maybe too, if I could afford it, one starter deck.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: And one good thing to know about the starter decks
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: is it also has all the tokens you need and
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: little markers. They are very thin, like cardboard, but they
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: are very useful. If you don't want to spend extra
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: money to get the acrylic.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Markers, it is only twenty dollars for the acrylic set,
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: which is not bad.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: No. Yeah, the starter decks right now on Gamerskilled are
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: nine dollars.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, manet is it nineteen ninety three? All's nine bucks? Huh?
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: Yep? And you get the so you get the full
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: deck you can play with, You get those markers, you
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: get a rule set like the quick rules. You technically
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: get a paper mat, which almost no one wants to use.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: It is a matt you can use if you don't
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: have one. Yep.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: And then you get like me, I have hundreds.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you get like two foilers. It's a very good deal.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: But now, so if I didn't care about the markers,
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: I didn't care about the paper matt, none of that.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: What I would do now is higher end. I would
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: get my hands on one Kickstarter box of Beyond the Gates,
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: one Trial by Frost box, and then do a faction
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: break and then I really do like buying like four
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: packs here and there after I finish an OPE event,
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: then I bring them home and open them with my wife. Obviously,
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: if you are very set on specific rares, don't do
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: that because you will not be very happy. But Gamers
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: Guild Arizona does still have Beyond the Gates singles, they
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: just haven't listed any Trial by Frost. I assume they're
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: just going to wait for the marketplace and phase two,
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: the NDA is lifted, so you'll if you're not in it,
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: you'll at least be able to see like certain pricing
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: and creators. We'll be able to make videos about it
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: things like that, so you'll get an idea.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think you kind of nailed it. It's
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: a good way to do it all, no problem with it.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: So so that was that was all the money, which
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: is like first at first, how you get in, But
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: there is there is another alternate route, which I don't
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: think very many people do, but you can. You can
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: go on board Game Arena right now and play with
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: a free account all of the starter decks for free
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: against random people and see if you like the game
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: that way. I feel like it goes one way or
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: the other for people because you're playing against everyone using
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: a star they don't enjoy it and wish they could
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: only be matched up with other Starter decks. Or it's
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: a good way for them to just see the game
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: and then they go out and buy it.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: But that is one thing I wish BGA did do.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: It is like you said, line up people against people
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: who are also using starter decks, right, it is a
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: little tough to get mollywomped by somebody who's playing a
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: constructed deck and you're like, oh, yeah, I'm I'm playing
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: the free starter bro.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: So yeah, they have different cues, like they have Arena
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: and they have just regular play, but you get ELO
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: for both. So when you're first starting out on BGA,
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: your first goal is kind of to get to one
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: hundred EL. So if you're only playing with starter decks
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: and then trying to do that, because that's when like
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: more options open up, it's gonna be very hard.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it would be very difficult if.
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: You picked the Cigy Starter deck and you tried really hard,
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: you'd probably still get a better win rate than I
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: have on my main account. So what do you know
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: what your win rate is on your account? Dexter?
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Uh, that's around fifty.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: Fuck no, go look at it again.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: There's no way mine's around fifty.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: Okay, yours makes sense? Look you fifty? Like? What two
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: games out of four? You one?
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: I've played a little more than that, Thank you.
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: Let me check. I'm gonna go to a check. I'm
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: gonna if Yeah, I.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Don't have freemium, so I can't like see all the stats.
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah I can see yours. Damn, yours is forty six percent?
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: All right, good job. I'm not gonna say mine now anyways,
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: it's nineteen percent. Oh Lord, to be fair, though, this
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: is a guy who only plays Warrio and now Siggy verse.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: I've been playing goreg recently, okay.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: Versus me who's played every single thing except for Warrio.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: I've played all of the heroes.
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: All right, I'm beginning, I'm bad. What do you want
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: to say? So we talked about all the money, we
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: talked about all that. How did I mean I feel
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: like Wookie?
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Year?
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: Answer is big z and Zach begged you to get
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: into Altered.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: But no, that was not it at all.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: I need this beautiful voice.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: I didn't even know big Z and Zach were getting
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: into Altered. I actually had. So we were doing work
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: for another game I'm not going to name which game,
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: and one of my fellow one of our listeners from
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: Arkan's Corner was like, have you seen Altered? And I said,
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: you know, I looked at it and it looks interesting.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: It did. It piqued my interest. And he's like, well,
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: you got tabletop simulator and I'm like I do. He's like,
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: we can go play it right now, and I was
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: like all right, cool, and so I was like, well,
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: let's say. Then we we busted open tabletop simulator and
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: started playing. And at first I was like oh, He's like, yeah,
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: here's like your six factions, you know, YadA yatta, and
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh okay, I like this this uh
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: this one which was a Yizimir like this kind of
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: one kind of looks cool. He was, and he's like
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: giving me the breakdown and I was like, oh okay,
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: and I was like oh, and I didn't. I hated
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: feel of the Asmir deck like I always felt I
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: was behind. I just wasn't understanding, like I got the
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: after you mechanic. I'm like, oh okay. Took me a
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: few turns because I was like, oh okay, this game
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: is about information, right, This is like this is kind
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: of like old school magic, right, like you want info
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: before you start doing stuff. Roger that and I was like,
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: what's the pink one? Because I don't know about you guys.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: I like pink right, It's I am an Aerosmith song altogether.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: Pink is my favorite color. It's my favorite crown. I
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: don't know, just I dig it. It looks good on me.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: Dexter can can attest to I do wear a lot
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: of pink, and so he's like, oh, that's that One's
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: kind of weird it it does a lot of dice rolling,
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: and I was like, dice rolling, I'm horrible at that
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: I'm in. And then we played like six or seven
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: more games and I was like, I love this. I
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: love this, right, I said, because I know, Like what
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: really made me love it? I was like, and that's
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: what made me fall in love with Lyra was I
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: was like, someone's gonna roll up to a to an
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: event they have no plans on winning, right, But they're
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: gonna ruin some but some hardcore altered players day round
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: one because they just rolled out of their shoes, right,
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: And it's just it's that person is gonna blow up, right,
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: They're gonna they're gonna have just the worst day ever.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: And and what's even better about it is the person
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: playing Lyra one hundred percent knew what they were doing, right, Like,
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: it's just it's so maniacal and evil, and I one
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: hundred percent loved the idea of it, like out of
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: the get go, and I'm like, yeah, I dig this game.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: I was like, I kind of really dig it. And
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: then I went to gen Con and I I was
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: actually a World's for key Forge, and I was like, oh,
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go pick up a couple of starters and
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: they didn't have much left I picked. I did pick
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: up a Lyris starter deck, and then I kind of
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: never touched it again once I got home. And then
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: Biggsy's like, Hey, what's your thoughts on doing another podcast?
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: And I was like, Nope, I don't have time, Like
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: I do what I do a lot for one already.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: I just I can't see doing another one. And he's like, well,
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: I really want to do one I altered and I
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: was like, wait, what you got into this and he's like, yeah,
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: me and Zach both did. We bought the big Kickstarter
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: bundle and I was like, oh, right on. And I
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: was like, you know, because it's the and me and
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: z we're co hosts for so long on Arcans Corner.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: He kind of like whittled me down and talked me
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: into it, right, And I'm like fine. He's like, man,
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: you don't got to do this, you know I I
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: already have a team together. All I need you to
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: do is just kind of be the voice guide, guide
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: the crew, and edit. And I was like, fine, I
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: can probably do that now I'm here. You two can
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: be a podcaster.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: So he basically just asked you you have to do
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: the worst part and then also be on the podcast.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: Are you in yeah, yeah, yeah, yep.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: He's like he's right, the rest of us have to
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: do the easy.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: Stuff well, and it's just like he's like, you a
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: lot more than me, Cole. You have to steer the ship, right,
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: which I've been doing for years now on Arcons Corner
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: and other podcasts, and then do the editing. And I
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: was like, yeah, I could, I could do all editing
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: to me now is like second nature, right, Like I
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: just know. And it's because I know I've been doing
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: it for so damn long. I'm just like, you're just
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: kind of chugging along, right, and then you know, you
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: do some things. AI is a wonderful tool nowadays, by
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: the way, like you kids don't know how good you
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: got it now. You know, back in the day, I
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: used to have to do tag word research on my own.
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: I still do it. Oh why because I am the
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: AI hater for this? For this episode, for this episode only,
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: you have to put a manual title because it has
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: to be how to get started with Altered. That's because
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: then the people who need to listen to it will find.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: It fair enough. We'll see if that happens or not.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: But that's my story of how I got into Altered.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: You and I probably actually believe it or not. I
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: think we've talked about this. Probably did meet at gen
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: Con and have no clue?
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, was it last year you went to gen Con?
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: Or was it the year before?
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: This?
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: Is this last year where they were first releasing Altered?
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, I was there in there and the whole time.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: And you had to like join Q. I remember joining
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: QUES and Q's like immediately collapsing on the app because
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: you're like, oh, I can do this cue and then
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: like you like join and then it's filled and you're.
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: Like, ah, yeah, yeah they they they were pretty pretty popular.
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: Uh but Dexter, I guess we don't even really know
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: how you got into Altered, but.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: I mean told me about it and I joined. That's
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: the whole story there.
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: All right, Well that's easy. So then the next part
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: of the question of like how to get started and
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: altered is how how do you find yourself like connecting
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: to it? More like what keeps you playing? Where do
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: you go? What do you listen to? Things like that.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: I honestly enjoy the online just playing online the most.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: I like the gameplay more than a lot of other
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: TCGs that I've tried. And just since it's new, it's cool.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: I like you guys. I don't know, it's just fun
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: to hang out. I enjoy locals too, but I mean,
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: right now, I'm busy to make it.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: So wish I had a local scene. That's that's I
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: don't like playing online and I don't have a local scenes,
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: So getting games and is very tricky for me.
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's there's a couple of people I've seen during
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: the main discord that feel the same way. They don't
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: really want to play on BGA. They don't like to
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: play with random people.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: And it's not just this card game. By the way,
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: I just want to like, it's no knock on this
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: card game. I just want to make sure everyone like
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: aware of that, Like it isn't that like bg A
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: is a like it is a fantastic online platform to
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: play this game. Yeah, it's just I don't like.
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: To say that. In the main discord right now, you'd
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: have like ten people throwing tomatoes at you.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: Well that's fine. I can take them to the online
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: platform for a game called KeyForge, Yeah, and they can
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: see they can see just how good it's not. But
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: like this is a lot maybe it's one of those
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: like the grass isn't always greener on the other side,
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: like go go to some of these other games online platforms,
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: and then you'll understand, like how good you got it.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: I don't I feel like a lot, like a lot
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: of the Altered community when they complain about BGA, it's like,
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: you guys have no clue how good you got it
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: no clue, right, Like it's not going to be uh
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: Magic Online or Magic Arena or even the Pokemon Pokemon
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: TCG platform, but like, for a free, free online platform
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: to play your game, it's it's up there. It has
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: a lot of the features that like, I mean, Magic
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: Arena gives you a starter deck and then you got
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: the stupid you know, like rare break cards and all
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: that jazz that you got to pay for. I mean,
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: for a free online platform, it's pretty good. Quit you bitching.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Board Game Board Game Arena is really good. It's
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: actually also gotten me into like trying other games on it.
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: I have a group of friends we had a campaign
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: of an RPG. People you know, started jobs, schedules changed,
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: so we're just like, uh, we're just gonna casually do
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: something else. So I'm like, sweet, instead of every other
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: Sunday we do this campaign, how about we just hop
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: on like Board Game Arena and play some board games.
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: So yeah, it's expanded that way. But yeah, I think
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: it's very good, especially for it being official.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: Can you free? And might I again? Might I add
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: it costs you zero dollars.
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: No money, but it's not a mobile app.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: Wyeah. Correct.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: I can kind of play on mobile very poorly.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: Yes, sir, I've played it on my iPad. Works just fine.
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: Hey, someone was playing it on steam Deck the other day,
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: and now that's the thing I need to freaking do.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: And we'll get working this weekend.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: Plan on your steam deck.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: Hell yeah, I will not play on my phone, but
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: I will play on my steam deck.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean phone's a little tough just because of
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: its size. I have the large twelve point nine inch
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: iPad pro. Yeah, it works, It works great, especially I
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: got an Apple pencil too, works great. There you go,
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: works fan fabulous, fantastic. I didn't had no problems. I've
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: only played it like twice on there, but my experience
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: wasn't bad.
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: Dexter, have you played Magic much at all? Yeah? Have
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: you played Magic? You've played Arena? Okay, so you've never
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: played what was before Arena, right?
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: Magic Online?
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: I played some in person Magic, but not any online.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: There's there's also another app called Magic Online.
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna show you. I'm gonna show you just
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: a picture of Magic Online.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: It's yeah.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: And uh, this so like Arena's new Arena's not like old.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Magic Arena is probably it might be like ten
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: years old. Now, yeah, it's older than five years. It
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: might be like ten years old now yeah.
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: Magic Arena seven years It released in twenty nineteen.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: So six years old. Yeah, I kind of I thought
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: six seven years.
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: So Magic the most popular TCG that's been out since
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: the early nineties, maybe even before that if you count
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: weird betas and whatever, did not get a client as
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: good as Arena.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: In like ten years ago.
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: Well yeah, yeah until like thirty years into its life
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: cycle almost.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: So yeah, Magic online is rough, and mind you you
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: had to buy all this, like, it's not just free.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: You can't just play it, yeah, I mean yeah, you
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: have like yeah, but none of your cards and your
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: collection for like Magic Online count so you have to
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: buy them if you wanted to play them physically, you
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: have to buy them physically, and then you also have
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: to buy them in Magic Online. Oh so it wasn't
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: like free, right, Like you had to spend money on
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: Magic Online and then spend money in the same thing
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: with Arena arenas, they'll give you like you can play
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: for free.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: You can get some cards, but yeah, if you want.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: But you have to grind if you want to play
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: Magic Arena for free at a high level completely at all.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there are wild cards which help you.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: Right, but again, you are grinding. You need to grind, Yes,
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: grinding where this game your your physical cards are also
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: your digital cards.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Yep, it's great.
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: So that that was a little side tangent, But since
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: Dexter's answer was so easy, what I will say is
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: find a local discord like this is. If you really
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: want to get into Altered and you want to start
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: playing it more, find a discord that's local to your area.
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: Altered Corner is Texas based, and we trek all of
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: the events for Texas, but we now have more people
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: that play online than play in Texas. Yes, so if
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: you don't have any locals, there are a couple online
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: communities like that for tournaments and playing. Even sometimes we
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: just hop in a voice call and play for someone.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: It's not in person, but it's also not someone entirely random,
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: so that might help. I really like the main Altered
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: discord besides the couple times here and there that people
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: don't know how good they have it and start complaining,
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: but there's a lot of good in there. And then
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: I mean there's a lot of good YouTube content out
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: there now, and if you are for the first time
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: starting Altered, look at the website. Their website is also
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: very well made the event. If you go to the
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: events tab, it's split between both events and stores. Stores
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: should be just stores that do carry it or have
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: carried it if you're gonna if you're not too sure
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: about a store, or call ahead see if they still
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: have it, and then events should only have events that
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: are upcoming on the map. What I recommend doing if
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: you want to like help grow or you want to
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: see if a store is doing something. If there's a
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: store that's listed on the stores tab but doesn't have
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: any events and you can't find anything on their website,
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: I just give them a call and like ask, like, hey,
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: you guys do organized play for Altered, And I'll either
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: say no, but you know, you're the fourth person to
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: ask about this maybe we should or they might say, oh,
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: we do, but we forgot to put the event up.
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: So I think those are really good ways to get
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: started community wise. And then there are a ton of
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: people that will give you free comments and even free
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: rares if you need help building up.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: Your absolute question for you weird question, you're your uh,
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: I'm looking for your Remember that you had those two
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: cosplayers come out packs, Yes, and then you're like, oh,
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: they've been posting in the in the main alter shure
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: they post anymore.
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, here, here, and there. They go through cycles of
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: you know, versus stuff and then magic stuff. Magic, of
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: course is the main red winner. I'm sure for them,
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: but I see them pop up everyone. It's in a while.
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: Both of them did card reveals for the set, and.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: So what you're tying is we've been bumped to the
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: sixty ninth position. I don't know, you don't know.
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: I don't know. We'll see my YouTube's growing steam. Maybe
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: I'll get us up there eventually, so.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: I might be able to get to number sixty two.
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: Yep. And I don't know. If it's just us three
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: for the foreseeable future, then it's the three best friends
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: against the world. So hell yeah is there? So we
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: covered money, which I think is the main aspect playing online.
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: All of us recommend it. It's really good if you
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: hop in our discord. I'm trying more often to do
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: like casual play knights, where anyone can hop in and
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: if they want to play against me, like I'll be like,
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: what do you want to play against? What do you
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: want to test? And then if we get enough people,
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: it usually turns out to where if I'm in a
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: game with someone else and there's two other people waiting,
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: they'll just play against each other. So it's really cool
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: that way. And then yeah, if you have a local scene.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: Or I'm just gonna put this out there, I know
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: that there's the Altered Corner discord. There's also the Archives
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: Corner discord. I have set it up in a way
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: that if you don't want to see KeyForge stuff, which
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: is perfectly fine, you can choose a role, you can
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: choose whether you want to go for Altered or KeyForge.
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: I'm more in that server than i I'm in this server.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: I'm always cut it down to play. If you catch
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: me on a good time, I poke around. Hear it
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: from here and there. So there are people over there
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: who play. It is not as a robust community as
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: it is in this community, however, you know, well, we'll
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: see how it goes here in the near future.
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, if there are people that listen to
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: Arcon's Corner and are listening to Altered Corner because it's
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: part of the same family, but they're not in the
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: Altered Corner discord. I'm in the Arkons Corner discord. I
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: just don't post as much in the altered area because
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: usually no one interacts.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: And he's got full control over the altered area.
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: So you do have questions. If you're in the Arcons
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: Corner and you want anything, feel free to tag me
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: anytime or more people just start posting in there, you'll
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: probably see me respond. So I I get people not
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: wanting to join multiple discords. So if you if you
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: are already in a discord that I'm also in, just
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: find me.
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: I do not mind if people just try another discord
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: and start.
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: Stacking that make make folders.
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: Learn how to stack your stack your folders. I folders, Ye,
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: me too.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: I have a folder with multiple folders in it.
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: I have a foul. You have a folder with folders? Yeah,
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: you savage pretty sure our older did we cover everything?
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: I feel like we covered set one er set to
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: in the approach to buying when we kind of went
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: through your tears.
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I I will be the one person that probably
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: sells Trial by Frost harder than most. I think it's
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: because it is a smaller set, but I think people
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: are so set in their decks from beyond the Gate
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: that they're kind of scared to new things and lose.
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: But as we mentioned earlier, I ain't got nowhere to
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: go but up. I literally threw it out that I
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: will test decks for people on my main account if
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: they don't want to tank their record. And someone thought
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: I was joking and they were like, will you test
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: this deck? I was like, yep, tell me when, I'll
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: fucking do it, Like I will lose you if you
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: want me to. I ain't joking.
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: Listen, you can't get better unless you try, right, So
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: I mean you get win rate is nothing but a number, right,
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: And it doesn't matter on BGA, It really honestly doesn't.
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: What matters is the tournaments. BGA should literally be your
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: testing ground as to where you are playing around, testing
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: new decks, seeing what happens, seeing what works, seeing what doesn't,
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: because none of those matter. It's not like you're going
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: to show up to the big alterned event and they're
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: going to be like, what's your e l O? Because
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: that should don't matter. You're you're still going to be
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: set up against whoever you're set up against or regardless
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: of what you are online. So test new stuff, get
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: out there, try some new things. Are we ready to
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: go into Patreon questions?
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: I think so?
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: All right. Question one comes from our boy draconis which
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: hero that you don't normally use? Do you want to
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: try and make work with this new set?
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: I've been playing a lot of guel ring. I copied Cole.
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: You didn't like my deck, so you made your own.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: I made my own. It's very similar. It was just
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: with the separate rids and new uniques that I had.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: I think the comment set was pretty much the same.
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you should. You should post your deck in the
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: audience so I can take a look for deck.
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, in a while, I haven't really tried anything, but
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: I told you guys what I want to build, and
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: it's gonna be a Yazmir build, right. I just wow, Wow,
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: out of nowhere. I'm not out of nowhere.
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: I know what you're talking about now me.
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah you, I would say, mere Dexter, because I agree, Dexter.
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: Fuck you want to be the evilest bastard around.
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: Listen. I've discussed this on other shows. I just want
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: to get my maximum altered time with all of my
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: altered friends, right, and if along the way like all
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: your stories, right, Like, that's that's all I'm here for,
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: is getting maximum altered time. I do this in key
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: Forge too, So it's gonna be Yazmir. I don't know.
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: I think I really want. I want it to be Akesha.
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: That's why I want it to be. Is it going
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: to end up being her? I don't know, but I
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: think is the right call?
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: I do.
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: I do have a follow up question, though, what is
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: the what is the plan when I quit this podcast? What?
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I guess you know what it means.
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: I hate as I guess it's the Wookie show. Listen.
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: I died at Arkans Corner by myself for a year.
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: I could do this show for a year.
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: All right, I believe. As for Dexter's Gold Ring Deck,
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: why do you need Akesha?
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: Because it just takes forever.
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: I've talked about this so much, even on this podcast,
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: I am known as an Aksha hater.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: Like, what do you like about this game? Then you're like, man,
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: I hate artists, Man, I hate Akesha.
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: I hate artists on a philosophy style level. I hate
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: actually playing against Akesha. I don't like artists because I
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: don't like politicians. I don't like bureaucrats. I don't like
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: the law. But I actually never complained about Warrio with
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: Robin Hood.
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: Yes you did.
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: It was it was really not me. But am I
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: glad that it happened? Yes, because I feel like the
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: meta got way more interesting after that. But as for
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: Dexter's glorying deck, the only thing that I would see
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: maybe you have uh an opportunity to change is the
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: keylon burst like bursts. But other than that, I like
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: that you don't have sticky notes because I feel like
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: if you have teamwork in Geyser, you don't need sticky notes.
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: And you're just very lucky to have three rare the
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: mobile armory.
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: Because I, yes, I have one extra, you want one?
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: Uh, maybe we'll see. I might borrow it to finish
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: my video and be done with ortists forever. As for
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: a quick answer to why I hate Akesha is, I
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: had a period of time where for some reason I
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: was the only person on the cast getting matched up
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: against kadegear celebration day at Kesha and their whole point
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: is to just make it so you cannot play, you
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: cannot advance, and they will hold you hostage in the
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: game as long as possible, and I played a fifty
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: four minute game against Akesha uh.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: Huh, and then you played like a forty minute against
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: me when I had the exact same bill.
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah. So anyways, my answer.
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: This, it's just quality time with your altered friends.
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: If it's Dexter, If it's Dexter or you, I will
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: grind my teeth and play through it. But if it's
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: some random a moment I finished that game, I'm giving
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: them a thumbs down and saying I, personally, wow, I'm
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: not tanking their karma. I'm not mean like that. I'm
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: just saying I put thumbs down, I personally never want
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: to play with this person again. There, it gives you
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: the option to say if they're a bad person or
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: you just don't want to see them again, and I
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: pick the lesser of two evils. My answer is Bassira,
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: and Bassira is what I will be working on.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. I actually made a Basia dick. I
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: don't know where it is now, but.
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I actually I have one that I made
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: that I played in like a wall and aces, and
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: it just was not doing very well. I actually changed
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: I changed it for the episode of Deck swapped with
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: Keelon guy. Well, it's basically this. I'll post it in
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: the audience, but you'll anyone listening, you'll see my Besierra
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: deck eventually in Trial by Frost. Other obvious answer is Tasia,
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: which is not a new hero, but I feel like
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: how she can play in Trial by Frost is a
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: lot different and I'm really enjoying the direction I'm taking
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: my Tasia deck. I just need more rares, so.
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: I'll see what I got for you.
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: I don't know what I got in Trial by Frost.
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: Oh, I don't got anything.
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I did trade to get another rare a clue today,
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: so that's.
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: I haven't I haven't gotten around to adding any Trial
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: by Frost to my collection.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: I have like no Bravos rares. Yeah, my Besira deck
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: has a thirty nine cards and only seven rares.
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: All right, all right, this comes from our next Patreon
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: Pan Pan, Now that it's been out for a week.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: What what's a card that completely surprised you in tbfm
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: oklet bro.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: I hate that card. Act is so strong in both
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: the Sierra and Tasia, and it's probably great in Kojo too.
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: Just annihilate your opponent's reserve. It's pretty much sabotage because
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: then they can only play cards from hand and then
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: at the end they're gonna have to discard down to two.
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: I hate it. Yeah, so good.
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: This is gonna sound smug or something. I don't know.
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: I think I was ready for the cards that I
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: am using and I'm most excited excited about. Like if
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: you go back to the spoiler cast, I set off
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: the bat YETI is gonna be fucking great. And yes,
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: I love Yetti. It's in my Teja deck. It's amazing.
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: I will say, I didn't expect to be as excited
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: about a clute, but I love them now. One of
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: my new best friends, I think, probably so s Ow
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: is probably the one that surprised me the most because
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: I didn't even really look at it too much until
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: I saw it being used in a tournament. The Yeizmeir
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: like side of that would be Rhyan Frost. Both of
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: those cards, I think kind of surprised me on how
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: good that they are. But I should have known from
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: the start, you know. One, Man of cards are almost
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: always good in some fashion. I think just during the
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: spoiler cast and during the reveals, they weren't super flashy
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: and exciting, so they just kind of flew under the radar.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: Sure, uh, all right, I am going in a different direction.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: You guys both went gameplay. I'm going with lore. Okay,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: that's Little match Girl.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: Mm hmmm.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: So if you guys follow Altered TCG on Twitter today,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: they had released the Little match Girl and Naiyalla Gifted Conjurer.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know why they put the wrong image on
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: it or something.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they did.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a mix up. So now the joke is
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: that Little match Girl is like a shape shifter or yeah.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I want I want I want to see
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: how this story plays out right, and I want more
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: information on Little match Girl and why in the unique
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: her ghost brother is there?
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that unique art is insane.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: I will tell you what your favorite card is in
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: tra By Frost. Start playing it, Woiki, it'll be Snowball Commando.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: Snowball Commando.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: Yes, that card is so much fun and I think
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: you will enjoy it.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: I probably will. All right.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: It literally like mimics what it would feel like to
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: get in a snowball fight.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: So all right, what do we got next here? All right?
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: With Altered Commons and Rares being so cheap. Do you
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: think that the current asking price for higher tier uniques
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: is justifiable?
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 3: Do you think? All right, do we want to go
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: down these one at a time, because there's multiple questions in
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: this one. For me, let's do one so do I
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: Do you feel that the current is justifiable?
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah? No, that one's an easy No. I have been
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: like the champion in the discord telling people not to
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: buy uniques for prices that people are selling them. I'm like,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: don't pay that, don't pay that, and when the market
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: comes out, it's going to balance things out a lot more.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: But I have always thought they were way over inflated,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: so market it will not be that crazy. I basically
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: one guarantee it. And if someone lists a unique or
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: way overpriced, it just won't sell.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: It'll just yeah, yeah, nobody will it.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: That that one is easy to me.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: No, all right, fair enough? I agree, I think we
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: all agree, and I feel like keeping the game a
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: little bit more affordable is a thing, especially like I mean,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: you look at other games that are so expensive. I mean,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: magic is an animal all its own, but like I mean,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: if you take a look at you gi oh and
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: flesh and Blood is always the one that pops to
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: mind because like they just the gear in that game
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: is so damn expensive. I don't know where it's at now,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: but I remember when I was playing it, it was
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: like many time for three hundred dollars and it's like hard,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: it's so hard to find, and it's like I hate
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: when card games make staples that just like they're a
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: few hundred dollars and it's like why, yeah, if you're
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: if it's going to be a staple, it needs to
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: be like readily accessible because now now it's a game
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: of who's got I despise game where I despise paid
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: to win games. I just don't like them. I get
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: there has to be like money involved in this and whatnot,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: for for the people, you know, for for the people
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: making the game, but the secondary market does not irritates.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: Whether the secondary market makes the main company or TCG
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: more money.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: Is the secondary market never makes the company more money. Right,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: people are possible. You can argue all you want, and
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: I'm going to point you know one thing. Yeah, well,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: as far as the competitive scene goes, I'll point you
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: and I say this time and time again, go look
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: at Pokemon. There is there is a way to balance it,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: and Pokemon still to this day, does the best job
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: of balancing expensive cards that people go searching for and
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: being able to have a very healthy competitive atmosphere. They're
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: just there. They did it right. But do you think
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: prizing at large events should be determining should be a
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: determining factor in the cost of competitive card games or
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: Think it is in any card game really, I mean,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: decks are going to cost more than what the prizing
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: you're getting. Is people make decks because they like the
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: decks and they want to win. It's not just all
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: about the prizing. Well, I mean sure in magic the
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: prizing probably makes up for it, but I don't.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: So the way the way to look at this question
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 4: and break it down because I read it like three
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 4: times to really.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: I was I was about to read it because I
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: was like, what is the question asked?
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: So there are gcgs. I don't have any example at
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 4: the top of my head, but we'll say someone can
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 4: win a magic event with a deck that cost them
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 4: a couple grands, right, likeeah, very very easy to do
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: in magic, probably which their deck might have cost more
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 4: than what they won from the magic tournament. Itself. It's
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: very possible. So that's kind of what this question is asking.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: And should we see the cost of competitive altered cards
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: mirror like what the prize is offered in I worded
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 4: that terribly anyways, I will say, and this is something
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: that I actively try to combat the mentality behind. I
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: think people need to accept and understand that Altered is
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: trying to be different from most TCGs. And one of
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 4: the big things about that is how easy it is
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 4: to get cards and the fact that there are not
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 4: like rare chase cards.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: Essentially, there does need to be a really but there
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: does need to be a balance, right because and I
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: don't know if the uniques necessarily do that because of
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: how many bad uniques there are out there, but like,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: there does need to be a balance, right, There needs
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: to be some good chase cards that people will crack
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: packs for, right.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: So coming down to like and the reason and I
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: say Pokemon does this so well is like they'll have
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: like an altered can one thousand percent do this? Right? Like,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: this is well within their scope and their range foils, right,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: Like look at Pokemon, right, all these foils that are
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: going for Big Bucke Rooney's are not competitive, no one's
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: playing them, and then the cards that are being played
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: are relatively affordable, and then when the price gets a
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: little crazy, they release it in a starter deck. Yeah,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: you know. So there is a way to balance this
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: and make it so that people crack packs so that
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: the game store and the printer of the game is
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: happy and the consumer, the end consumer is happy as well,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: and the secondary markets happy.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: I think the gap is a lot smaller and altered.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 4: You're always going to have the uniques, and you're going
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 4: to have people that seek out very specific uniques and
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: drap money on them. But at the same time, you're
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: going to have someone who, if they don't win first,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: they're in the top four with uniques that they just
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 4: opened naturally. So the uniques are always going to be
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 4: a chase thing. Rares themselves, you do have to open
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: packs or buy boxes, but it's not gonna be ever
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 4: I think in my mind where you're gonna have to
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 4: spend one hundred dollars for this rare that completes your deck.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: I think you can get a full placet of commons
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: and rares for fifty dollars easily, and then if you
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: want a semi competitive deck. Spending another fifty dollars on
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: three uniques is fine if you want it to be
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: like super Good, it's probably like two hundred plus a unique.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: But it all depends on what deck you're building. And
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: it's always possible to have an off meta strategy that
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: nobody expected that.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: That's cool things, sure, but I think and again this,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: I think this is well within their wheelhouse. You can
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: make the special cards, but also then make the printing,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: you know, especially if a card becomes crazy, right, Like
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: you know, all the all the Pokemon cards that are
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: going for Big Buck Rooney's are again not meta relevant,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: but they're sought after because of their collectibility, their art,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: so on and so forth. They have just normal versions
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: of these cards that don't go for a lot. So
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: I think if Altered can find that balance of like
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: people wanting to crack packs for more, for more than uniques, right,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: maybe some special foiling, some special treatments, alternate art. I know,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: art in this game is the art budget has to
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: be insane in this game. You know, maybe specialized tokens
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: that can come in, you know, whatever the case may be.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: They definitely, I think it's definitely in their Wheelhouse. I
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: don't know how much Asthma Day has their their I
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: guess the only real way to say it is clause
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: stuck into this. Yeah, I hope.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: But my understanding, the only real control that Asthma Day
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 4: has is distribution.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: How it's going to ask that, is it just they're
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: just doing distribution?
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, as far as I know which just distribution is.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: It's it's a lot. Like it's a lot, and there's
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 4: a lot of things that are pain points and altered
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 4: are because of Asthma Day being the distributor. But I
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 4: think creatively and like what cards they put in and
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 4: foils in the design of the game, I think a
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 4: lot of that is one equinox. The other thing is
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 4: from my experience, they also control a lot of their
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 4: own events and Asthma Day doesn't really have too much
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 4: of a hand in that. So, like for packs on Plugged,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 4: we were doing a draft with like the staff and
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: we took a box of booster packs because someone told
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 4: us we could, and then Justin who's the organized play
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 4: manager of North America, was like, no, you can't take those.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 4: Those are my like marketing funds for like that I
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: use and in the end, it was all just like, oh, hey,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: Asthma Day is actually giving you all of this stock
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 4: from them to replace your marketing so they can have
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 4: that box. So uh, they they've poyed with alt arts
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 4: here and they're a lot with tokens in the trial
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 4: by Frost packs you can get alt arts. I think
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 4: I have almost all of the art alt arts now
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: except for maybe uh, what's her name, Vike or whatever, and.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: Of like I got multiple of them.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I don't have any of her altart.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 4: But yeah, they art budget is insane. It's been asked
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 4: about a lot doing different Tiro costumes and things like that,
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: and I will say that they are very good at
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: listening and that is all I will say.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so we'll kind of see how it goes. I
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: feel like there's definitely a way they could do it
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: now with it already being out again. This game seems
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: to be very very popular overseas and then has kind
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: of a lukewarm following in the States.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say right now, the main draw for
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 4: the game is online. Like the European tournament times are
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 4: usually still bigger than our North American times. What at
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 4: a lot of our events on a weekday, you know,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: six PM are still hitting fifty to eighty people across
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: different events consistently.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: Like every week, so that's pretty good.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah. So while organized play has taking a little time
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: to get up and growing, it's very very healthy online community.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: Yep for sure.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: Alrighty we are into events for this week, Cole, What
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: events we got coming up?
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: All right? If you didn't know, didn't watch A Wall
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 4: kicked off season two? There was the European Time on
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 4: Monday with Pandy Andy and I believe it was Ruinfolk
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 4: casting that one. I had a bunch of meetings, so
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 4: I missed a ton of it, and then on Wednesday
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 4: the North American Time it was Yours truly and Blue
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 4: Oak TV casting. It was a very good launch. I
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 4: believe that you had one hundred players, and I think
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 4: North America might have hit one hundred as well. Can
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 4: go to our favorite website, thirty nine cards dot com
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 4: real quick just to double check fifty fifty one. I
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 4: don't know why it had. I thought it also got
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 4: up to one hundred, but that'll be every Monday and Wednesday.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 4: It's on the Altered Corner website. If you need to
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 4: find links for information probably after you're already hearing this.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 4: I will have run a commons only tournament for ACE
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 4: Altered Corner events on Tuesday night, commons only decks including
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 4: Beyond the Gates and Trial by Frost and then AQZ
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 4: which is Keelon Guy and Pandy Andy and some other
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 4: big names. Professional team, competitive team. Competitive team is probably
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 4: a better word. They're starting a tournament series that has
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 4: a cool little boss battle feature built into it. And
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 4: then for your local events, I've seen some new stuff
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 4: popping up in San Antonio was it San Antonio? But
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 4: also El Paso, and I don't have like anyone that
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 4: I can consistently lean on in those areas to ask questions.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 4: So if you're in El Paso and you go to
• 1:16:42
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• 1:16:46
  Speaker 4: me a DM so I can figure out some information
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 4: and help get that out there. So that should about
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 4: do it. For events A season three, I don't know
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 4: pending we'll see DM big Z and bug him repeatedly.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: So yeah, don't don't know what's going on. We're assuming
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: the return will be shortly. We really don't know, so
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: we'll see where ACE goes. But that's gonna do it
• 1:17:20
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• 1:20:41
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• 1:20:47
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• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: talking to the void that is the trial. What is
• 1:21:13
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• 1:21:20
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