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104. The Overbury Poisoning · Who Did What Now With Katie Charlwood

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Speaker 1: and welcome to Who Did What Now? The history podcast
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Speaker 1: That's not your history class with me your host Katie Charlewood,
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Speaker 1: history harlot and reader of books. Hi, everybody, did you
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Speaker 1: miss me? I have been away. No, I haven't. That's
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Speaker 1: a lie. I've been nowhere. I've been at home. I
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Speaker 1: just took a week off from recording. I tried. I
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Speaker 1: tried to put together an episode last week, but I
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Speaker 1: was so run down and so exhausted and just not great,
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Speaker 1: like at this weird dizzy, like as if my brain
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Speaker 1: was sloshing about. My head said situation going on, and
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Speaker 1: no matter what I did when I was trying to
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Speaker 1: put the episode together, every time I tried to record,
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Speaker 1: everything sounded wrong, like I don't know where else to
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Speaker 1: put it. It sounded wrong, And so I scrapped that
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Speaker 1: episode completely. It just decided to write a new one
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Speaker 1: for this week because apparently I can't do anything typically
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Speaker 1: at all. So I decided to do this ah murder,
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Speaker 1: of course, why not. But it's been it's been a
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Speaker 1: bit hectic because I've had to try and prepare a
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Speaker 1: few episodes, specifically to be released as I'm touring because
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Speaker 1: I don't want to like let people down, and I've
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Speaker 1: got stuff that needs to go up on the Patreon
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Speaker 1: as well, Like I've got things scheduled, but there's a
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Speaker 1: few like tweaks I need to do here and there,
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Speaker 1: and it's just to make sure that content is consistent.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone's noticed, if you've been followed
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Speaker 1: me on the socials, like i haven't been as historically
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Speaker 1: heavy there and I've been doing my historical assistant currently
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Speaker 1: as the assistant to Henry the Eighth, which I make
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Speaker 1: just for my own pure enjoyment, like it's just fun
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Speaker 1: for me to do, and for the two thousand people
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Speaker 1: that watch those, I appreciate you. It was just a
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Speaker 1: silly little thing I did in my mum's kitchen. I
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Speaker 1: was like, this will be great, This'll be fun. But yeah,
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Speaker 1: getting the two organized is being a bit hectic, and
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Speaker 1: I'm traveling by coach a lot through the UK just
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Speaker 1: because trains are crazy expensive and there's not a lot
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Speaker 1: of regional flights happening, so I'm like, I'll just go
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Speaker 1: on a bus and sleep, even though it's gonna ban
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Speaker 1: jacks my back coup a wee bit but it'll be fine.
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Speaker 1: But I'm getting a bit stressed now at this point
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Speaker 1: because like the Glasgow show completely sold out, fabulous, Dublin's
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Speaker 1: doing very well, man Chessel's doing well, but Brighton, I
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Speaker 1: don't know what's ipp in Brighton, but like Brightain is
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Speaker 1: not sailing as well as everywhere else. And I'm starting
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Speaker 1: to panic because like I need to break even lads,
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Speaker 1: like it's it's a lot. It's expensive to travel like
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Speaker 1: into the country, to fly in and do all this.
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Speaker 1: And i'd someone ask like, hey, you're going to be
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Speaker 1: doing like a London, you know, Essex type area, and
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Speaker 1: you know, I answered honestly because it's me, And I
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Speaker 1: was like, I don't know, because if I don't sell
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Speaker 1: like eighty percent of my Brighton tickets, I probably won't
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Speaker 1: be in the southeast of England for like another two years.
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Speaker 1: Because if I'm going to make a loss from being
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Speaker 1: in that area, like as it's showing historically, if I'm
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Speaker 1: going to be a loss from being in that area,
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Speaker 1: then it's not financially feasible for me to be in
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Speaker 1: that area. Whereas like Newcastle, which isn't until November, like
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Speaker 1: the Newcastle gig is selling like hotcakes, so it's a
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Speaker 1: bit sty. And I was chatting to like comedian Susie Russel, No,
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Speaker 1: Susie Ruffle, Jesus. I was chatting to suse and I
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Speaker 1: was like, Hey, any advice because like struggling in this
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Speaker 1: area specifically, And she was saying to me, like a
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Speaker 1: lot of people who travel in they find that the
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Speaker 1: tickets don't really sell until like a much closer to
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Speaker 1: the date, which is not helping my anxiety. But anyway,
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Speaker 1: I know what you're thinking. You're thinking, quit your jibber
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Speaker 1: jabber in fact me, In fact you I will, But
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Speaker 1: first we've got to get our source. On horses are
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Speaker 1: The Early Stewarts by Godfrey Davis, The Overbury Affair, the
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Speaker 1: murder trial that rocked the Court of King James the
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Speaker 1: First by Miriam Allen de Ford, The Drills of Francis Howard,
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Speaker 1: Fracked and Fiction at the Court of King James by
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Speaker 1: David Lindley, Passion, Poison and Power, The Mysterious Death of
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Speaker 1: Sir Thomas Overbury by Brian Harris, King James the sixth
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Speaker 1: and First by David Harris Wilson, and of course our
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Speaker 1: favorites History Dot com and biography dot com aisles it
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Speaker 1: in comfortably good. Then let's begin. So this is a
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Speaker 1: story which has everything. It would be like a perfect
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Speaker 1: you know, seventeenth century who done it? You know what
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Speaker 1: I mean? Because this has you know, a torrent love affair,
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Speaker 1: political scheming, you know, a salacious scandal, and a poisoned
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Speaker 1: tart and you all know all love a tart, right,
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Speaker 1: And there are three main players in this story, and
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Speaker 1: there's a few side characters. Our three main players are
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Speaker 1: Francis Howard, Robert Carr, and of course Thomas Overbury. Now
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Speaker 1: there are some side characters, you know, like the King
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Speaker 1: and Queen of England. It is wild. So let me
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Speaker 1: start with Francis because I'm going to start with a
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Speaker 1: women because I feel like it. Francis Howard was born
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Speaker 1: on the thirty first of May fifteen ninety. That's right,
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Speaker 1: we have a birthday for a woman in the past.
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Speaker 1: Are you excited because I'm excited. Basically, Francis Howrold she
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Speaker 1: is from good stock. I don't know how else to
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Speaker 1: say this, but like she is from like two very
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Speaker 1: noble families, like they're very powerful, like she is, She's
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Speaker 1: I don't want to say, a really good bargaining chip.
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Speaker 1: She's a really good bargaining chip. She's perfect for a
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Speaker 1: political alliance, right because she's you know, well educated. She's
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Speaker 1: as a fucking button, like she is awesome effectively. And
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's her grandfather or her great grandfather,
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Speaker 1: I can't remember, but he was the last person to
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Speaker 1: be executed by King Henry the eighth. Now, I mean
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Speaker 1: it's not a great claim to fame, but it's kind
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Speaker 1: of interesting to just like have that in your family tree.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, she's doing well, Like she's well up there
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Speaker 1: when it comes to sort of the nobility hierarchy. And
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Speaker 1: when she's thirteen, she's married to one Robert Devereaux, who
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Speaker 1: is pretty decent historically in his own right. But when
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Speaker 1: they get married, he's thirteen and she's fourteen. Now Robert
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Speaker 1: is his father, grandfather, great grandfather, grandfather. One of them,
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Speaker 1: like on his paternal side was Queen Elizabeth the First's spymaster, right,
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Speaker 1: like that's Wolsingham. He was like fingers and many pies,
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Speaker 1: he was rolling the roost. He was, you know, the
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Speaker 1: person whispering and good Queen Bess's hear His stepfather was
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Speaker 1: Sir Robert Dudley, the Queen's favorite, the one who she
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Speaker 1: was really married but get married. Yeah. Yeah, so again
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Speaker 1: very important sort of political family. Like even if you
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Speaker 1: take how he married into it, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 1: But he's thirteen and she's fourteen and they get married
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Speaker 1: and it's it's no Romeo and Juliet situation. It's not
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Speaker 1: love at first sight. It's effectively a political union. It's
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Speaker 1: a shake hands, good, we're aligned now, fabulous, you know.
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Speaker 1: And that's how a lot of marriages in this time were.
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Speaker 1: And it's actually pretty young to be married. Everyone thinks
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Speaker 1: that like people got married like twelve and thirteen all
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Speaker 1: the time, when that's really more the case of sort
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Speaker 1: of higher people up in the nobility, Like it's not
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Speaker 1: lower down, like that's not a thing, and that's not
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Speaker 1: what they did. But it was mainly just for alliances.
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Speaker 1: Marriages weren't expected to be consummated, like they weren't expected.
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Speaker 1: It happened on occasion, and it was really common for
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Speaker 1: like younger girls and women too married off to older men.
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Speaker 1: I mean, reasonably, these two are basically the same age.
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Speaker 1: There was a year difference, so fair enough. Now because
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Speaker 1: they're so young. They're like, they don't need to live together,
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Speaker 1: they don't need to consummate the marriage. It's fine. So
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Speaker 1: sixteen oh four they get married. Bish bash bosh done.
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Speaker 1: Now at this point they're like, you know what, let's
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Speaker 1: send Francis to court because I think her mum was
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Speaker 1: a lady in waiting. Grandmother was a lady in waiting
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Speaker 1: for Anne of Denmark. Now, Anne of Denmark is pretty fabulous.
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Speaker 1: So her and King James they have their family whatever,
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Speaker 1: and once they have their children, they're basically becomes this
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Speaker 1: sort of agreement effectively where she goes, let me do
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Speaker 1: what I want, let me have my fancy clothes and
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Speaker 1: spend all my money, like you don't judge me, and
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Speaker 1: you can have as many boyfriends as you like. But
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Speaker 1: here is like one stipulation here, bestie, they do not
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Speaker 1: disrespect me, Like you can have as many queens hanging
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Speaker 1: around as you like, but I am the queen and
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Speaker 1: they will show me some fucking respect. And James is
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Speaker 1: like super absolutely no worries, right, one hundred percent. So
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Speaker 1: like Anna Denmark is a badass bitch and we're definitely
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Speaker 1: going to cover her at some point. But yeah, so
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Speaker 1: lady waiting. So Frances is brought to the Stuart court
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Speaker 1: because she's, you know, of high society and she's married
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Speaker 1: and it's decent for her to be there. Also not
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Speaker 1: really not really worried that the King's gonna have a
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Speaker 1: wandering eye on this one, obviously, because his eyes are
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Speaker 1: somewhere else. So Robert at this point, he has been
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Speaker 1: sent on a grand tour. I mentioned this before. I
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Speaker 1: think I mentioned it in like the Lizzie Borden episode.
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Speaker 1: But this has been happening for a while. So the nobility,
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Speaker 1: especially young men, were expected to travel on a grand tour,
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Speaker 1: which is where they traveled around Europe, especially stopping off
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Speaker 1: in Italy because it was a thing, probably because that's
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Speaker 1: where like the Vatican is anyway, and you know, once
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Speaker 1: the Renaissance happened as well, they're like add beauty, you know,
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Speaker 1: the viablehem whatever. I know, it's freine. Shut up. So
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Speaker 1: he goes off on this tour and he's away for
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Speaker 1: like two years. Well he's away, he's not exactly chased
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Speaker 1: because he's a teenager galavatan around Europe. So he comes
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Speaker 1: back anyway two years later, and he has smallpox. He's
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Speaker 1: got smallpox. And he's really ill and his wife is like, mmm,
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Speaker 1: no thanks and makes every effort to like not have
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Speaker 1: to be with him. No, obviously they have to spend
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Speaker 1: some time together, but not not really too much. See
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Speaker 1: the problem is, well Robert was away, Francis fell in
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Speaker 1: love with the much older Robert Carr, who's the King's favorite. Now,
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Speaker 1: as we said before in the George Falliols episode, the
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Speaker 1: King's favorite is this political possession. Like the king or queen,
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Speaker 1: they'd have a favorite. It would be sort of a
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Speaker 1: very coveted position in the court because this would be
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Speaker 1: the ruler's most intimate companion and they would wield a
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Speaker 1: lot of power. As one would say, with Robert like
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Speaker 1: the favorite before him, Philip, he was such a fucking himbo.
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Speaker 1: Like himbo's and the King really tend to sort of mix.
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Speaker 1: So Robert actually becomes the King's favorite. Backstory, Robert becomes
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Speaker 1: the King's favorite because his family knows James's family from
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Speaker 1: back in Scotland. And there's this jousting competition because you know,
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Speaker 1: they like a party. There's a jousting competition happening at
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Speaker 1: Hampton Court, and during one of the jousts, the Knight
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Speaker 1: Sir Robert Carr. He gets injured and breaks his legs,
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Speaker 1: so he has to like rest there, and knowing the
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Speaker 1: family knowing him from Scotland, King James decides to visit him,
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Speaker 1: and then the visits get more frequent until the point
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Speaker 1: where when Robert is healed, he becomes appointed to the
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Speaker 1: King's bedchamber and he becomes the king's favorite. Now he
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Speaker 1: gets sort of gifts and titles and money and like
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Speaker 1: he becomes sort of second command in one of the
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Speaker 1: most prominent political players for many many years. Now, Robert
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Speaker 1: has a friend called Thomas Overbury, and Overbury was like
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Speaker 1: he was, he was noble, he was fine. But because
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Speaker 1: he was friends, friends, roommates, best days, wink wink, they
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Speaker 1: were intimate. Okay, they were close, and because they were
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Speaker 1: so close before James was in the picture, but they'd
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Speaker 1: stayed sort of allied, they stayed friends, and because they
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Speaker 1: were such good buddies, people began to take interest in
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Speaker 1: Overbury and Overbray would end up sort of climbing the
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Speaker 1: social ladder that way. So back to Francis away second.
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Speaker 1: So Francis, she's like, I don't want to be in
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Speaker 1: this marriage anymore, and she can't legally represent herself. So
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Speaker 1: her dad and her uncle like they go in and
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Speaker 1: it's effectively an impotence trial, right because they want to
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Speaker 1: get it annulled. And they're telling this nineteen year old fella,
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Speaker 1: Robert Devereaux, Like, she says that she's, you know, tried
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Speaker 1: to like get you interested in her, but she's tried
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Speaker 1: to perform her wifely Judy's but the marriage has never
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Speaker 1: been consummated. And she says, you can't get an erection effectively,
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Speaker 1: and Robert is so mad at this, he is so loving.
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Speaker 1: What he does is in front of his lawyers is
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Speaker 1: like he pulls like down his breeches and up his
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Speaker 1: like blouse, his chemise or whatever the male version is.
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Speaker 1: I'm not a fashion historian. Like he pulls up his
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Speaker 1: clothes and just sort of wiggles. He waves his like
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Speaker 1: targed member. He like waves his erect penis like at them,
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Speaker 1: and he's like, look, I can get an erection. Ah.
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Speaker 1: He's like, look it works. It does work. But basically
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Speaker 1: a bunch of midwives have to inspect Francis, but she
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Speaker 1: wears like a veil during the whole process, you know,
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Speaker 1: to protect her modesty because the priests and the doctors
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Speaker 1: and the midwives have to check her and they're like
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Speaker 1: her hymen's intact, which as we know now means absolutely
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Speaker 1: fuck a home. There is a suggestion that it was
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Speaker 1: like her fourteen year old cousin who's brought in and
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Speaker 1: is inspected, you know, in her place, because you know,
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Speaker 1: but there's no like truth to whether that's the case.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, this marriage is just dissolved effectively. They agree
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Speaker 1: it because he states that he can get an erection.
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Speaker 1: Eventually it comes out. He's like, I can get it.
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Speaker 1: I just can't seem to manage it with this chick.
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Speaker 1: He's like, I can get it everywhere else he said.
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Speaker 1: But he said that he was so insulted by her
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Speaker 1: because she called him a cow, and he was like, ah,
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Speaker 1: she insulted me so much. I can't get hard. It's
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Speaker 1: a shame. It just didn't work for them specifically. But
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Speaker 1: he goes on to love his best life. They get
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Speaker 1: an old fabulous Robert carr uh just hunky beefcake Tim nice.
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Speaker 1: But Tim, it's his closeness to the king which actually
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Speaker 1: helps this annulment like finally go through because the king
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Speaker 1: passes the annulment and he's like, yeah, you can get married, bestie, absolutely,
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Speaker 1: because it's it's good. It's good to have you know,
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Speaker 1: you married off even though I have an older marriage.
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Speaker 1: Few like it's fine anyway. But before the annulment is granted,
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Speaker 1: Sir Thomas Overbury he's not happy because he doesn't like
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Speaker 1: the Howards. He doesn't want this consolidation of power. He
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Speaker 1: doesn't want them connected. Right, So what he does is
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Speaker 1: he writes this poem called the Wife, basically talking about
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Speaker 1: the virtue of what a wife should have. And so
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Speaker 1: he's writing and it seems like a direct attack on
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Speaker 1: like Francis Howard, because he's like trying to consistently convince
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Speaker 1: you know, Robert Carr, like not to marry, Like, not
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Speaker 1: to marry Francis, stay away from her. This isn't good
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Speaker 1: for you, mainly because he's afraid of all the power,
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Speaker 1: the more power that this fellow's going to have and
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Speaker 1: this family's going to have, and he's going to be ousted.
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Speaker 1: So one thing leads to another and Overbury ends up
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Speaker 1: locked in the tower and he's writing to Robert Carr.
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Speaker 1: He's like, you know, you know they're saying the stuff
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Speaker 1: about me. You need to help me, like talk to
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Speaker 1: the king, get me pardoned, like help me out, and
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Speaker 1: Robert does, sweet fuck all. He just distances himself from it.
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Speaker 1: And the only person who's showing him any kindness is
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Speaker 1: dear sweet Francis Howard, who is sending him, you know,
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Speaker 1: kicks and pies and tarts with lots of sugar, except
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Speaker 1: it's not sugar, it's arsnack allegedly. So all of these
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Speaker 1: pies and treats and tarts start coming into the tower
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Speaker 1: and he's eating them and you'll get a little bit
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Speaker 1: sick and then we'll get over it. So so while
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Speaker 1: he's in the tower and he's just getting ill consistently,
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Speaker 1: and it starts off with that, and then they're like,
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Speaker 1: he's really sick. So he ends up getting Apothecari's coming
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Speaker 1: in and he receives enemas he receives a mercury enema,
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Speaker 1: which was the cure or the supposed cure, a treatment
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Speaker 1: for the French pox syphilis. Right, so you know, when
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Speaker 1: he does die, people are like, eh, he had venereal diseases.
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Speaker 1: He died of that. And after he dies, like ten
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Speaker 1: days later or so, and a nomen is granted and
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Speaker 1: the two get wet. So they get married and everything's fine,
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Speaker 1: and they become like this incredibly like powerful, like a
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Speaker 1: power couple. They become a power couple because they've got
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Speaker 1: the king on their side, and they've got like everything
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Speaker 1: else going for them, because they're again from two very
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Speaker 1: strong well she's from a very strong political family, and
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Speaker 1: he has gained all this power as the king's favorite.
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Speaker 1: Now Robert is starting to fall out of favor a
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Speaker 1: wee bit after this, not because he's married specifically, but
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Speaker 1: because a lot of the other nobles aren't really happy
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Speaker 1: with the fact that he is having all of this power,
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Speaker 1: and so they start bringing in someone more malleable, where
21:46
Speaker 1: they think is going to be more malleable, the young
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Speaker 1: George Filiers, and so they're they're like trying to bring
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Speaker 1: him and be him in front of the king and
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Speaker 1: push Robert Carr out. It doesn't help that Robert is
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Speaker 1: being whispered in the ear and he's told to the
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Speaker 1: mock Anne of Denmark, the king's wife, and one day
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Speaker 1: he likes straight up laughs at her dress in public,
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Speaker 1: and she's so upset by this that she cries. This
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Speaker 1: woman does not cry, let me tell you, And she's
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Speaker 1: so mad about it. She's so mad about it that
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Speaker 1: it's just like not going on. And she like basically
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Speaker 1: tells King James, like what the fuck to sort him out,
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Speaker 1: Like I'm not having this. And so that's like a
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Speaker 1: little sort of the nails starting to be hitting to
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Speaker 1: the coffin here, and so things are not going well,
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Speaker 1: and you know, the King is starting to get bored
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Speaker 1: with Robert, and this leads to people kind of like
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Speaker 1: trying to push things their way. Still, rumors start to
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Speaker 1: spread about Thomas Overbury and his time in the tower,
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Speaker 1: and so the rumor starts swirling that there was a
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Speaker 1: poison plot and there, and there's this guard at the
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Speaker 1: tower who's like, yeah, no, there was a plot, but
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Speaker 1: I like totally stopped it. And then he's questioned a
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Speaker 1: b bit more and then he's like, well, maybe I'm
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Speaker 1: not actually sure that I stopped it. And then it
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Speaker 1: comes to light that you know that these tarts came
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Speaker 1: in and enema and a trial is heard and so
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Speaker 1: and so Robert Carr he's like, I wasn't involved in this.
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Speaker 1: I didn't do anything I I you know, and like
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Speaker 1: all these like like people he's allied with come up
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Speaker 1: and they're like, we didn't do it. It wasn't as
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Speaker 1: I mean, Francis Howard, Francis Carr, she know it's she
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Speaker 1: comes to court and she's like, I fucking did it, Yes,
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Speaker 1: I killed the bastard, and I do it again. I
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Speaker 1: mean she said it nicer than that, obviously, but she
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Speaker 1: basically confesses. She's like, yep, I poisoned the tarts. I
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Speaker 1: got you know, my ladies to bring in food to
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Speaker 1: heal and he didn't kill them. So then I met
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Speaker 1: with an apothecary who like puts some stuff in his
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Speaker 1: like enema along with the mercury, you know, to finish
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Speaker 1: him off right, And like I love that. She just
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Speaker 1: comes out and she's like, I did it. I did it.
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Speaker 1: Like so they have to hold this trial and both
24:26
Speaker 1: of them are found guilty and banished from the Stuart Court.
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Speaker 1: So they're both banished like and and it's interesting because
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Speaker 1: they're banished and this gives the perfect opportunity for George
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Speaker 1: Willialls to move up the ranks right business as well.
24:43
Speaker 1: This is like two years after Overbury's death, Like this
24:46
Speaker 1: all comes out now. Francis she only spends like a
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Speaker 1: couple months and like locked away, and then she gets
24:56
Speaker 1: like a full pardon from the king. He's like, eh,
24:58
Speaker 1: you're fine. Oh go Now, eventually Robert Carr also gets pardoned,
25:06
Speaker 1: like after spending some time in the Terror of London.
25:08
Speaker 1: So these two are hanging out in the Tower of
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Speaker 1: London separately, of course, the same place where over Pray
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Speaker 1: was poisoned. Now how I put this, there's a possibility
25:21
Speaker 1: that there was some royal involvement in this, because there
25:26
Speaker 1: were times where either of the monarchs could have stepped
25:30
Speaker 1: in and just like got involved. Because like Woods, who
25:36
Speaker 1: was sort of one of the favorites of Anne of Denmark,
25:41
Speaker 1: like he was sort of wrapped up in this in
25:45
Speaker 1: this sort of scheming plot. So you know, it's likely
25:49
Speaker 1: that she knew about it, but she just didn't do
25:51
Speaker 1: anything because she found him annoying. Now I'm not saying
25:56
Speaker 1: that she was like giving her stamp of approval on it.
25:59
Speaker 1: It's more like she just looked away in the opposite
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Speaker 1: direction by a partly Overbray was causing issues, Like initially,
26:08
Speaker 1: like they tried to send him like awake because he
26:12
Speaker 1: was causing so much trouble. They were like, hey, here's
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Speaker 1: an ambassadorship to Russia, which by the way, was involved
26:18
Speaker 1: in a civil war at the time, and he was like, no,
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to fucking Russia. Fuck that for a
26:24
Speaker 1: game of soldiers. And so the king is so mad
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Speaker 1: about it. So this couple with this old poem on
26:31
Speaker 1: the wife gets him locked in the tower, and the
26:34
Speaker 1: Queen's like, well, you know what, that's what you get. So,
26:37
Speaker 1: you know, nobody really cared. It was only when sort
26:41
Speaker 1: of the nobility were getting mad about it that they
26:45
Speaker 1: actually cared about the entire scandal, which is pretty funny
26:50
Speaker 1: in the grand scheme of things, because the royals were
26:57
Speaker 1: implicated in this scandal that they basically had to banish
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Speaker 1: the two from court. So they get sent to the tower.
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Speaker 1: Francis she gets pardoned basically straight away, like a couple
27:06
Speaker 1: months and she's pardoned, but she's still in the tower.
27:08
Speaker 1: And then like two years later himself is pardoned, and yeah,
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Speaker 1: he refused to like buy his pardon, Like people were like, oh,
27:18
Speaker 1: we'll talk on your behalf if you give a shit,
27:20
Speaker 1: and he's like no, but yeah, and they basically leave
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Speaker 1: court and they go and live their lives and yeah,
27:33
Speaker 1: you know, have like one child, I think, but yeah
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Speaker 1: they have, they have a life, and yeah they were
27:41
Speaker 1: they were okay in the end. And that's the story
27:43
Speaker 1: of the overbreak scandal poisoning situation. If you liked my
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27:51
Speaker 1: five styles, just because my ego needs it. At this
27:55
Speaker 1: point in my life, I'm so disheartened. I'm struggling. But yeah,
27:58
Speaker 1: you can follow me in all the socials, and I
28:00
Speaker 1: have some recommendations for you now. For reading, I'm going
28:04
Speaker 1: to say Betwixt the Sheets by Doctor Kitlister, It's a fun,
28:07
Speaker 1: fabulous read. For watching then new Fallout series, Dear God,
28:12
Speaker 1: I need more of it in my life. It's broken
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Speaker 1: the video game curse. And for listening, it's not Betwixt
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Speaker 1: the Sheets. That's the name of the podcast of Doctor Kitlister,
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Speaker 1: which you should also listen to. Actually reading is The
28:29
Speaker 1: History of Sex, The Curious History of Sex per Kitlister.
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Speaker 1: You know what to t No Tour Kitlisters and and
28:36
Speaker 1: a Fallout, Live your Best Life. I'm actually really that
28:40
Speaker 1: person who whenever anyone says Kitluster, I go doctor like
28:44
Speaker 1: people say Captain Jack Sparrow. I'm like doctor Kitluster. But anyway,
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Speaker 1: I hope you have a fabulous time and I will
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Speaker 1: see you next week, same bat time, same bat channel.
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Speaker 1: Arios or what where is Emma friends? Bye bye