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The Rita Panahi Show | 31 March · The Rita Panahi Show

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Speaker 1: On scors Ostrodio.
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Speaker 2: This is the Weader Panalty Show.
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Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the readA Panety Show. Coming
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Speaker 3: up tonight. Economists warned that the Albinzy government's fuel security
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Speaker 3: plan will sink the country further into debt. The panel
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Speaker 3: will be here to cover the day's top headlines. Labor
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Speaker 3: finally conceivees that the NDIS is out of control. Drew Pavlou,
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Speaker 3: who helped expose NDIS fraud, joins me to discuss that
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Speaker 3: Kosher Gator will have the latest from the US, including
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Speaker 3: Donald Trump's threat to destroy the Iranian regime, and later
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Speaker 3: in the program, the always mischievous Alex Stein will share
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Speaker 3: the fun he had at a pro trans rally over
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Speaker 3: the weekend. Plus will have Lefties Losing It, which tonight
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Speaker 3: includes a trip to Canada.
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Speaker 4: It's hired as a racialized and transgender delegate to sometimes
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Speaker 4: use this card and speak up.
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Speaker 2: Speak to somebody in front of me in.
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Speaker 4: Line and ask hey, this pretains to multiple intersecting parts
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Speaker 4: of my lived experience.
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Speaker 3: I'd like to speak but first, Economists of warning that
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Speaker 3: Labour's National Fuel Security Plan will not only sink the
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Speaker 3: budget into further deficit, but it may also be inflationary.
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Speaker 3: The Australian newspaper reports that some labor MP's were perplexed
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Speaker 3: by the Prime Minister's decision to slash the fuel excise. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 3: Shadow Energy Minister Dan ten told Sky News here's worried
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Speaker 3: the plan could be counterproductive and create a worse cost
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Speaker 3: of living crisis.
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Speaker 5: The Prime Minister Sadley's had to be drag kicking and
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Speaker 5: screaming to get through this decision.
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Speaker 6: To course, we welcome it.
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Speaker 5: But it'll be inflation unless there's offsets, and we offered
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Speaker 5: offsets to the government so it wouldn't be inflationary. And
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Speaker 5: yet the government seems to have just rushed this out
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Speaker 5: without offsets. And the real risk now is that we're
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Speaker 5: going to see inflation of five six percent following the
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Speaker 5: budget and that will put even more pressure on family
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Speaker 5: and house sold.
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Speaker 3: Joining me now is Institute of Public Affairs Research fellow
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Speaker 3: Colleen Harken and Sky News contributor Prough McSween Colleen is
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Speaker 3: the albity is a government doing enough to respond to
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Speaker 3: this crisis?
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Speaker 7: The short answer to that is no. I mean this
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Speaker 7: sort of excise offer.
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Speaker 6: Is obviously a bit of a sugar hit. It will
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Speaker 6: be popular.
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Speaker 7: People will be more than happy to take it and
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Speaker 7: take what it's on the table. But there's no clear
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Speaker 7: long term strategy to this. There is no sort of
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Speaker 7: vision of what actually are we going to do. This
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Speaker 7: is not going to be solved in the next few days.
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Speaker 7: There's been two or three weeks notice of stress, distress
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Speaker 7: and supply chain problems, and yet the National Cabinet only
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Speaker 7: met yesterday. So you know, this has been known that
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Speaker 7: this was coming for a couple of weeks. People have
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Speaker 7: been warning about, you know, empty fuel tanks. It's not
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Speaker 7: like we didn't know that this was coming. And it's
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Speaker 7: only twenty four hours ago that they've even started to
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Speaker 7: sit down and talk about what to do and the
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Speaker 7: what to do. Who has got problems as well? You
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Speaker 7: know that you've got problems with people on your own
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Speaker 7: team acqueering whether it's the right decision.
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Speaker 3: Well yes, when you've got MP's perplexed prow by the
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Speaker 3: decisions you're announcing, it suggests that they're just making policy
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Speaker 3: on the run.
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Speaker 8: Here.
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Speaker 9: Well, you know, this is a drowning man. Sadly, this
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Speaker 9: Prime minister has no plan. He has an energy minister
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Speaker 9: that lies to us I mean, you couldn't believe a
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Speaker 9: word coming out of Bowen's mouth. And it's all policy
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Speaker 9: on the run, driven by the polls, and they have
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Speaker 9: no idea what to do. They're like they're drowning, and
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Speaker 9: so here we have a situation where they're politically making
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Speaker 9: a nice sugar hitters Collins. But in the end, the
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Speaker 9: whole idea is to offset it if we're worried about inflation,
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Speaker 9: which of course we all need to be an r they,
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Speaker 9: you know, the opposition, I think had a good idea
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Speaker 9: to stop the you know, EV subsidy and the green
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Speaker 9: hydrogen and also their home battery business.
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Speaker 10: You know.
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Speaker 9: I mean, there are plenty of ways where the government's
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Speaker 9: largest to just go down the renewable track and preposter
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Speaker 9: that could actually offset this sugar hit. But basically we
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Speaker 9: all know that the government is all at sea. They
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Speaker 9: have no idea how to handle this crisis. Meanwhile, we're
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Speaker 9: going to run out and we'll get to the stage
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Speaker 9: where we will be rationing.
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Speaker 3: Interesting that you mentioned rationing prove because this isn't the
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Speaker 3: first time Australians have had the threat of fuel rationing
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Speaker 3: imposed on them. They are on sun reports today, the
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Speaker 3: threat of fuel rationing has been around from World War
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Speaker 3: II to the Iranian Revolution in nineteen seventy nine. The
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Speaker 3: government has imposed restrictions before, but I've got to say,
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Speaker 3: I don't know how receptive Australians are going to be
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Speaker 3: to further restrictions after everything we endured during COVID. How
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Speaker 3: do you see a colleen? Do you think we will
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Speaker 3: accept it?
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Speaker 7: We may not have a choice. I think that's the
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Speaker 7: first issue.
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Speaker 6: I don't think people will be very happy about it
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Speaker 6: at all.
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Speaker 7: But there may not be a choice, and it might
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Speaker 7: have to be alternate days or something like that, because
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Speaker 7: we are going to have We do have a supply problem.
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Speaker 7: I don't care what the government keeps pretending that it's
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Speaker 7: a panic buying problem. There is a significant issue that's
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Speaker 7: still not being addressed.
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Speaker 6: I think the average Australian is looking.
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Speaker 7: At this and going, how did we let ourselves become
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Speaker 7: a nation that is so vulnerable when we have so
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Speaker 7: many natural resources. We used to have the cheapest energy
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Speaker 7: supply were you know, we're an abundance of opportunity and
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Speaker 7: we've squandered it all and we've shut it all down.
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Speaker 7: I think that's what will make people really angry that
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Speaker 7: we've come to this place where we are rationing our fuel.
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Speaker 3: I fear, given what we saw during COVID, that Australians
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Speaker 3: are going to be all too ready to accept any
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Speaker 3: sort of Australians, no matter how reasonable or unreasonable, because
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Speaker 3: we saw during COVID the enthusiasm with which people embrace
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Speaker 3: restrictions and even the most irrational restrictions. We had bands
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Speaker 3: on fishing and playing golf and playground bands and acquiesce.
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Speaker 3: And I think we've got that sort of population. Sadly,
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Speaker 3: one man who is not ready to accept rationing lockdowns
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Speaker 3: or any other COVID style restrictions is Sushi Mango comic
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Speaker 3: Carlos Salentini.
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Speaker 2: Why don't we just drill for our own fuel we've got?
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Speaker 2: Why do we have to ask other countries?
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Speaker 3: Why don't we just drill for our own What a
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Speaker 3: big an Australia and start drilling?
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Speaker 11: Why?
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Speaker 2: I ask you everyone, We've got here, it's just in
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Speaker 2: the ground. Dig it, start digging, dig it out.
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Speaker 12: Well.
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Speaker 3: The message there is drill, baby, drill, prow It's what
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Speaker 3: I've been saying for years now, and it's a message
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Speaker 3: that's increasingly resonating with the public. What do you think
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Speaker 3: do you think this is going to see a change
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Speaker 3: of course for this country and the energy policies that
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Speaker 3: have we're embraced.
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Speaker 9: I hope so. I mean, I think that anthropologists will
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Speaker 9: look back at this period in our life and think
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Speaker 9: this is zombie net zero thinking of lemmings. You know,
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Speaker 9: it was the fashion trend of the day where everybody
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Speaker 9: had to demonize fossil fuels and politicians driven by I
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Speaker 9: guess these generation alphabets who were so socially aware and
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Speaker 9: had no responsibility, all care, no responsibility, have driven this
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Speaker 9: infatuation and this ridiculous situation where our energy supplies are demonized.
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Speaker 9: So let's hope that there's some you know, what's going
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Speaker 9: to happen now. I think we're going to go through
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Speaker 9: a lot more pain. Sadly, I think there will be
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Speaker 9: limited food from our agricultural sector. I think that, you know,
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Speaker 9: people are going to do it so tough that they
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Speaker 9: may have a wake up call. And it's about time
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Speaker 9: that we all understood that he was right. You know,
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Speaker 9: our a comedian was right. We need to start drilling
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Speaker 9: like crazy.
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Speaker 13: Now.
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Speaker 3: The RBA has announced today that surcharges on credit card
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Speaker 3: and debit cards will be banned from October. This ban
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Speaker 3: is expected to save Australians around one point six billion
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Speaker 3: dollars a year in fees.
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Speaker 8: Colleen, this is a big development.
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Speaker 3: The RBA will also reduce the cap on credit card
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Speaker 3: interchange fees that's what's paid by merchants to the banks.
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Speaker 8: That's going to be reduced.
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Speaker 3: From zero point eight percent to zero point three percent.
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Speaker 8: Are you a fan of these changes?
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Speaker 7: Actually, I'm not really because it obscures the cost of things,
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Speaker 7: and so at the moment you can actually see what
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Speaker 7: the surcharge is. When this is all piled in together,
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Speaker 7: you won't have that transparency. It will also mean that
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Speaker 7: people who are using cash are paying for those who
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Speaker 7: are using credit cards, because it will all be included
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Speaker 7: in the cost of the item. And so if I'm
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Speaker 7: using cash, I'm still paying for that surcharge that's being
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Speaker 7: built in, and I would encourage people to use cash
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Speaker 7: whenever they can. So, you know, I'm not really a
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Speaker 7: fan of it because I think it's absolutely it's obscuring
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Speaker 7: transparency and transparency is always a good thing.
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Speaker 3: Pro Yeah, we think we're going to be saving collectively
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Speaker 3: one point six billion dollars.
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Speaker 8: But if the consumer is just going to be ending.
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Speaker 3: Up paying that through higher prices, then where is the
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Speaker 3: saving coming in. And Colleen makes an excellent point about
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Speaker 3: if you are paying cash, then you're subsidizing those who
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Speaker 3: are opt for credit.
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Speaker 9: That's right, and you know, it's absolutely right that the
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Speaker 9: business they're in business to make money, they're going to
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Speaker 9: pass that cost on in the price of everything we buy.
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Speaker 9: So it is ludicrous. Again, it's a scam. You know,
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Speaker 9: whether it's the irba's feeling really, you know, so anxious
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Speaker 9: that they're going to be having to do another few
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Speaker 9: interest rate rises, maybe they've decided to chuck us a
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Speaker 9: few sort of lollies and hope that we don't understand
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Speaker 9: that we'll be paying it at the you know, the
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Speaker 9: cashier ridiculous.
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Speaker 3: That said, yeah, it could be just a little bit
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Speaker 3: of a sugar hit to distract us.
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Speaker 8: From what the end result's going to look like.
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Speaker 3: Now, the hits keep coming for ARN as news comes
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Speaker 3: through this morning that Jackie Oh She's joining Kyl Sandalans
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Speaker 3: in taking her employer to court after their two hundred
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Speaker 3: million dollar contract contract was torn up. Jackie Anderson is
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Speaker 3: seeking more than eighty two million dollars in compensation. Now,
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Speaker 3: Jackie O claims she was unfairly dismissed after an Hones
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Speaker 3: spat with co host Kyl sandalans Prou Not a lawyer,
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Speaker 3: but she looks.
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Speaker 8: To have an excellent case.
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Speaker 3: To me, this all looks very opportunistic by ar and management.
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Speaker 3: Those two have a history decades long of having ones, spats,
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Speaker 3: having robust discussions and fights. To suddenly decide that's misconduct
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Speaker 3: deserving of a sacking to me seems incredible me too.
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Speaker 9: You know, I don't think they have a very good
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Speaker 9: case at all. The bad thing is that they, you know,
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Speaker 9: were they succumb to the demands of these two, and
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Speaker 9: now they realize that they've paid way over the odds.
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Speaker 9: They even had invoked on their license that a censor
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Speaker 9: had to be in the channel with them listening to
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Speaker 9: the show. So isn't it on the sensor and on arn?
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Speaker 12: You know?
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Speaker 9: So if there was behavior that was objectionable, then I
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Speaker 9: just don't see how they're going to win this case.
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Speaker 9: And you know, just shows you how stupid they were
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Speaker 9: signing contracts like that with these two.
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Speaker 3: Colleen, they knew what they were getting though, when they
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Speaker 3: did this deal, and they only did this still a
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Speaker 3: couple of years ago. So we're two years into a
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Speaker 3: ten year deal one hundred million dollars each for Kyle
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Speaker 3: Sandlands and Jackie Oh, and two years in they've decided
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Speaker 3: the very content that they used to promote to highlight
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Speaker 3: this program is now suddenly so offensive that it deserves termination.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, and look, I'm pleased to say I've never listened
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Speaker 7: to them, but I have read a lot about, you know,
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Speaker 7: what they do and what they say, and they've made
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Speaker 7: a you know, they've made a brand out of being
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Speaker 7: offensive and objectionable and ridiculing people and being mean and nasty.
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Speaker 6: That's been my understanding that.
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Speaker 3: Kyle Schick Jackie was the nice one, so that they
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Speaker 3: had that balance. I've got to say, I haven't heard
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Speaker 3: a great deal e, but I've heard segments of the program.
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Speaker 3: And it's interesting because in Melbourne they have struggled to
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Speaker 3: find an audience, but in Sydney last ratings results, they
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Speaker 3: were the most popular breakfast program on FM.
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Speaker 8: Again.
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Speaker 7: But if you've done that for a number of years
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Speaker 7: and you've just resigned a contract for one hundred million dollars,
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Speaker 7: I'm clearly in the wrong job, by the way. But
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Speaker 7: if you signed a contract for that kind of money
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Speaker 7: and you've been doing the job with the same partner
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Speaker 7: for what is it twenty years or something, you know,
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Speaker 7: you know what you're getting yourself in for. So I mean,
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Speaker 7: I think that you've got a contract right. So legally,
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Speaker 7: I'm sure that her case sounds pretty sound, But from
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Speaker 7: an integrity point of view, I'm not quite sure why
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Speaker 7: she resigned.
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Speaker 8: Well, I would have received well, I would talk one
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Speaker 8: hundred mils. I want to think about it.
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Speaker 3: And you know what, they had a fantastic on air chemistry.
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Speaker 3: They changed radio stations and the station they left pretty
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Speaker 3: much lost all the advertisers. So they've got proven commercial
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Speaker 3: history there. Now let's go to the UK, where former
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Speaker 3: Labor Prime Minister Tony Blair has come out and said
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Speaker 3: what I've been saying.
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Speaker 8: For over a decade.
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Speaker 3: He has said that the left's unholy alliance with Islamists
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Speaker 3: must end. Writing in the Free Press blog, Tony Blair wrote,
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Speaker 3: the problem is that, under pressure.
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Speaker 8: From party activists and parts of the.
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Speaker 3: Muslim community, many progressive politicians who do sincerely reject anti
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Speaker 3: Semitism are not making these arguments and failing to take
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Speaker 3: head on this literally unholy alliance between parts of the
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Speaker 3: left and Islamists in our own societies whose ideology leads
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Speaker 3: inexlibrity to anti Semitism.
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Speaker 8: Colleen, as I said, I've been.
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Speaker 3: Writing about this for so long, and anti Semitism is
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Speaker 3: not the only consequence of this unholy alliance. There are
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Speaker 3: so many other things that are happening in Western societies.
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Speaker 3: What do you make of Tony Blair, of all people
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Speaker 3: now making that argument.
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Speaker 7: Well, in some ways it's not surprising because we often
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Speaker 7: find that people when they're in politics have a certain
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Speaker 7: view and then a few years later, when they're out
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Speaker 7: of it, they change their tune.
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Speaker 6: That's not an uncommon thing.
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Speaker 7: So I never know whether to be pleased or disappointed
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Speaker 7: when they do that. And his position changed quite a
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Speaker 7: lot after seven to seven, you know, those bombs in
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Speaker 7: London heat. So whether it's a position that is taken
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Speaker 7: in hindsight or whether it's a new insight, I don't know.
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Speaker 7: But it's welcome, you know. I think we have to
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Speaker 7: have the same hard conversations here about you know, how
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Speaker 7: our country is running, who's actually standing up and speaking
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Speaker 7: against these things? How are we actually going to get
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Speaker 7: our country back together on track as well as it
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Speaker 7: could be. So, you know, I'm not surprised when a
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Speaker 7: politician changes their tune after they're out of government.
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Speaker 8: Well, I think it carries a lot less weight.
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Speaker 3: It's all well and good to be brave after the event,
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Speaker 3: after the event, but when he had the power. It's
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Speaker 3: been pointed that on social media and elsewhere, well, he
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Speaker 3: was a part of the left unholy alliance with Islamist
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Speaker 3: Jonathan Wong is amongst those pointing out that Tony Blair
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Speaker 3: founded the first Muslim primary school that was publicly funded,
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Speaker 3: he gave a million pounds to Islamic studies and immam
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Speaker 3: training at universities in two thousand and seven, and notes
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Speaker 3: the Tony Blair Faith Foundation had advisors with links to
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Speaker 3: the Muslim Brotherhood. Ladies, we've run out of time, pro mixween, Colleen,
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Speaker 3: thank you so much for your time, pleasure. Health Minister
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Speaker 3: Mark Butler has revealed that the Albanesi government is considering
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Speaker 3: reducing the number of people eligible for the NDIS. Speaking
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Speaker 3: at an event on Monday night, Mark Butler said, our
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Speaker 3: research is showing Australians cherish the NDIS. They're proud of it,
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Speaker 3: but they think it's gotten way out of control and
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Speaker 3: they're determined that their governments getted back on track.
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Speaker 8: You can have.
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Speaker 3: Fewer people on the scheme, you can have relatively the
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Speaker 3: same number of people on the scheme with low cost growth.
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Speaker 8: And I think our job now.
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Speaker 3: Is to work through all those different permutations and assess
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Speaker 3: the pros and cons of each of them. Joining me
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Speaker 3: now to discuss this further is one man who helped
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Speaker 3: expose the corruption in the NDIS, activist and commentator Drew Pavlou.
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Speaker 3: Drew is Labor finally taking this issue seriously. The scale
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Speaker 3: of the waste is astonishing.
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Speaker 14: Thank you reader for having me on. Honestly, they are
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Speaker 14: not taking it seriously enough. They are talking about restricting
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Speaker 14: growth in the NDI is spending to about five percent
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Speaker 14: per ATAM. That is just simply not enough. We're talking
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Speaker 14: about this program on track. This program is on track
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Speaker 14: to basically get up to one hundred billion dollars a
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Speaker 14: year annual spending. Now, if you just restricted the scheme
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Speaker 14: to severely disabled people and made a directly government run
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Speaker 14: program like Medicare, if you just kicked off all the shunty,
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Speaker 14: the shonky sort of weird private providers who are abusing people.
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Speaker 14: Make it direct government program like medicare. You could save
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Speaker 14: twenty five billion dollars a year now over thirty years,
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Speaker 14: that's seven hundred and fifty billion dollars raader.
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Speaker 2: We could literally build high speed rail down the.
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Speaker 14: Entire eastern seaboard of Australia, you know, one and one
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Speaker 14: point five hours city to Melbourne, twenty minutes Brisbane, the
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Speaker 14: Gold Coast.
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Speaker 2: Three hundred billion dollars you could build.
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Speaker 14: You could build high speed rail down the entire east
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Speaker 14: coast of Australia.
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Speaker 2: You could build thirty nuclear reactors.
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Speaker 14: If you use South Korean designs, you can build build
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Speaker 14: them for about eight billion dollars a reactor. That's about
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Speaker 14: you know, two hundred fifty three hundred million dollars in total.
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Speaker 14: We could completely insulate ourselves from future global energy shocks.
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Speaker 14: We could build you know, one hundred and fifty metro
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Speaker 14: stations across all our major cities, like underground metros, like
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Speaker 14: like like London, New York, like Paris. We could make
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Speaker 14: our cities the greatest in the world. We could do
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Speaker 14: all of this if we just simply you know, restricted
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Speaker 14: the scheme to severely disabled people. Make it a government
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Speaker 14: run program like medicare. I mean, why are we doing
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Speaker 14: this to ourselves twenty five billion dollars a year. If
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Speaker 14: we save twenty five billion dollars a year, we could
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Speaker 14: do all these things, you know, build nuclear reactors to
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Speaker 14: make ourselves completely energy rebuild completely. We could revitalize manufacturing
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Speaker 14: completely in this country. You could lower the wholesale energy
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Speaker 14: price by seventy percent, revitalized manufacturing in this country. Everything
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Speaker 14: would pay for itself. You could do all these things
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Speaker 14: for the price of the NDAs. All the fraud in
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Speaker 14: the scheme, remove the fraud. Making a government run program
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Speaker 14: like that. You could just completely revitalize the country.
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Speaker 2: Put me in.
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Speaker 14: I've got the plans I can. We can save Australia.
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Speaker 3: Vote one, Drew Pavlou. That sounds like a campaign pitch there, Drew.
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Speaker 8: We have seen.
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Speaker 3: Stories in recent weeks that beggar belief, including one where
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Speaker 3: a man convicted of rape and sexual assault was placed
19:36
Speaker 3: in NDIS funded secure accommodation in a regional Victorian town,
19:40
Speaker 3: granted a one point four million dollar support package. And
19:44
Speaker 3: this at a time Drew, where we've got children with
19:49
Speaker 3: severe issues not granted funding, including a little child that
19:54
Speaker 3: you highlighted on your social media. These sorts of cases
19:58
Speaker 3: are not in isolation. They are just cases like this
20:01
Speaker 3: that we hear about daily. Is it going to be
20:05
Speaker 3: sorted or has it got so out of control that
20:08
Speaker 3: it's going to be years before we get on top
20:12
Speaker 3: of this waste.
20:14
Speaker 14: I think we just need to restart the NDIS again
20:16
Speaker 14: as a government run model, like just like Medicare.
20:19
Speaker 2: It can be just like Medicare.
20:20
Speaker 14: It shouldn't have been designed, it shouldn't have been designed
20:23
Speaker 14: as a private market system. You're talking about the most
20:25
Speaker 14: severely disabled people in Australia being asked to sort of
20:27
Speaker 14: choose choose between providers in a private market setting. I
20:30
Speaker 14: mean Andrew Hasty has said very very smartly that, you
20:33
Speaker 14: know the future of Australia should not be you know,
20:36
Speaker 14: hardcore neoliberalism. We should think about, you know, where things
20:41
Speaker 14: where things require government involvement, for example, looking after the
20:44
Speaker 14: most severely disabled people. Should we have a private a
20:47
Speaker 14: private system where all these dodgy providers are there to
20:50
Speaker 14: just abuse and defraud people on a massive scale. And listen,
20:54
Speaker 14: I want the money to go towards people who are
20:56
Speaker 14: civilly disabled who actually need it. If the choices between
20:58
Speaker 14: giving millions of dollars toys through the NDS and building
21:01
Speaker 14: high speed rail and building nuclear energy and building one
21:04
Speaker 14: hundred and fifty metro station's subway stations in every major
21:07
Speaker 14: city in Australia, I mean, what should we choose as
21:09
Speaker 14: a country giving pedophiles million dollar NDIS plans or should
21:13
Speaker 14: we instead, Yeah, build up the country. Let's have nation
21:16
Speaker 14: building projects, developmental economics, rebuild the nation. That's what I
21:20
Speaker 14: want to do for the country instead of just allowing
21:22
Speaker 14: you know, billions of dollars to be wasted on just
21:26
Speaker 14: basically shoveling money in the world, I mean into a furnace.
21:30
Speaker 3: I think Australians want the NDIS to help people who
21:34
Speaker 3: are severely disabled because for a long time they were
21:38
Speaker 3: forgotten about. It was up to their families to help them,
21:41
Speaker 3: or they were put into age care facilities from a
21:44
Speaker 3: young age. It was just so unfair. But people who
21:47
Speaker 3: had dealt a bad hand in life. But now we've
21:49
Speaker 3: got such broad numbers of people who are qualifying for
21:54
Speaker 3: the NDIS and some of the services being made available.
21:57
Speaker 8: Again, beggar belief.
22:00
Speaker 3: Before you go you posted recently about the grim housing
22:04
Speaker 3: market for young Australians, how you're being priced not out
22:09
Speaker 3: of buying a house, but even being able to rent
22:12
Speaker 3: in some cases. You're in Brisbane, tell my audience about
22:17
Speaker 3: what you faced the soaring cost of keeping a roof
22:20
Speaker 3: over your head and do you see housing as a
22:23
Speaker 3: real sort of sleeper issue that is boosting one nation.
22:27
Speaker 3: All the focus is on one nation's immigration policy, energy policies,
22:31
Speaker 3: but housing is a hugely consequential issue.
22:36
Speaker 14: Yes, housing is a disaster, reader just an absolute disaster.
22:39
Speaker 14: When I tried to find a rental, I would go
22:41
Speaker 14: to these places, you'd be going up against two hundred
22:44
Speaker 14: and three hundred people lined around the block, you know,
22:46
Speaker 14: for one rental. Most of them would be international students
22:50
Speaker 14: and migrants who had arrived really recently in the country.
22:52
Speaker 14: So you know, as an Austransit it's born in this country,
22:55
Speaker 14: I'm competing against, you know, hundreds of people who've just
22:57
Speaker 14: arrived in the country to get housing. Now I live
22:59
Speaker 14: in a four bedroom place with a couple of roommates.
23:02
Speaker 14: It's it's nine hundred dollars a week. The same house,
23:04
Speaker 14: the exact same house five years ago would have rented
23:07
Speaker 14: for five hundred dollars. So that's like the rent has
23:09
Speaker 14: doubled in five years because of massive pressure on the
23:11
Speaker 14: housing system because of mass migration implemented by the labor government.
23:15
Speaker 14: So my rent went from about five hundred to nine
23:18
Speaker 14: hundred dollars a week.
23:19
Speaker 2: Now, if you're looking.
23:19
Speaker 14: At house prices, the house would have sold for about
23:21
Speaker 14: seven hundred thousand.
23:22
Speaker 2: Dollars five hundred.
23:24
Speaker 14: Five years ago, the house would have sold for seven
23:26
Speaker 14: hundred thousand dollars. Now it sells for about one point
23:28
Speaker 14: three million. So if you put seventy thousand dollars aside
23:31
Speaker 14: ten percent deposit back in twenty twenty, you'd be paying
23:34
Speaker 14: about two thousand dollars a month in mortgage payments. Now
23:37
Speaker 14: you'd have to save one hundred and thirty thousand dollars
23:39
Speaker 14: to put a ten percent deposit down, and you'd be
23:40
Speaker 14: paying about seven thousand dollars a month in mortgage payments.
23:43
Speaker 14: So you know, when I was a kid, my parents
23:44
Speaker 14: would always say, never rent through its dead money. You
23:47
Speaker 14: should put money towards, you know, buying your own place.
23:50
Speaker 14: Then then you're actually building your own your own sort
23:52
Speaker 14: of net worth. But listen, like the mortgage payments on
23:55
Speaker 14: this exact same house that I'm.
23:57
Speaker 2: Living in would be double what I'm paying in rent.
23:58
Speaker 2: It doesn't it's.
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Speaker 3: It doesn't make sense and it's becoming out of reach
24:03
Speaker 3: for so many ordinary working Australians.
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Speaker 8: Drew, thank you so much for your time. Tonight, still
24:09
Speaker 8: to come.
24:10
Speaker 3: Lefties Losing d plus the latest from the US, including
24:13
Speaker 3: Donald Trump's threats to destroy the Iranian regime.
24:17
Speaker 8: Kosher Gator is up next.
24:31
Speaker 3: You're watching the Reader Panney Show, and it's time for
24:33
Speaker 3: Lefties Losing ad.
24:35
Speaker 8: Let's check in with folks in.
24:37
Speaker 3: Canada or Snow Mexicans as some call them, and some
24:41
Speaker 3: of the lunius Canadians in the country got together recently.
24:45
Speaker 3: It was a conference for the hard left New Democratic Party.
24:50
Speaker 3: Now you would have all heard of the victim card.
24:53
Speaker 3: These Canadians went one better and started handing out equity cards.
24:58
Speaker 8: Literally.
24:58
Speaker 10: There's a point of privilege on microphone one. Then we'll
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Speaker 10: go to microphone three. Go ahead, delegate.
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Speaker 11: Yes, hello, I was standing here with my gender equity
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Speaker 11: card before you called on the previous speaker.
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Speaker 2: That's my point of privilege.
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Speaker 6: I would like to her.
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Speaker 10: I will explain this speaking order, which is fixed that
25:14
Speaker 10: I cannot amend, which is the pro con rotation. You
25:17
Speaker 10: can move yourself up a line that you're standing on.
25:20
Speaker 8: I am pro, and I was we went.
25:24
Speaker 10: You went pro, you went pron pro, and my plan
25:28
Speaker 10: was to go con. The speaker at Con, Mike three,
25:30
Speaker 10: also has a speaking card.
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Speaker 13: Yesterday, this card was used in an inappropriate manner, and
25:38
Speaker 13: while I understand in Ontario we know this is equity,
25:42
Speaker 13: even if that this was also used inappropriate in terms
25:45
Speaker 13: of gender, I want everyone to be mindful that these
25:49
Speaker 13: cards for individuals like myself who identify as a black woman.
25:55
Speaker 8: She identifies as a black woman, that.
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Speaker 3: There was a time when you didn't have to point
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Speaker 3: that out. It was pretty obvious. But we are talking
26:03
Speaker 3: about painfully work broken Canada, where this is how adults
26:08
Speaker 3: conduct themselves now.
26:10
Speaker 4: Point of personal privilege. I understand there's very little time
26:14
Speaker 4: and for delegates to speak, but early on the mic,
26:19
Speaker 4: it's hard as a racialized and transgender delegate to sometimes
26:23
Speaker 4: use this card and speak up, speak to somebody in
26:25
Speaker 4: front of me in line and ask hey, this pertains
26:28
Speaker 4: to multiple intersecting parts of my lived experience.
26:31
Speaker 2: I'd like to speak.
26:32
Speaker 4: I was rejected when I talked, and it's frustrating when
26:36
Speaker 4: these are my rights being directly under attack right now
26:39
Speaker 4: in Alberta, and that assist gender woman had spoken over me,
26:45
Speaker 4: and I understand her rights are important too. This pertains
26:49
Speaker 4: to her too, but I don't know. I hope that
26:52
Speaker 4: in the future the federal MDP will also have a
26:55
Speaker 4: broader interpretation of the equity cards for speakers.
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Speaker 2: That's all, thank you.
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Speaker 10: I will invite delegates to assist me in better using
27:03
Speaker 10: the card by forming a street street line behind the
27:09
Speaker 10: microphone with a prominently.
27:11
Speaker 8: Dispute equity code. If I see speakers ahead of you who.
27:14
Speaker 10: Are not holding a code prominently, it would be wrong
27:16
Speaker 10: with me to guess about their gender identity, and I
27:19
Speaker 10: will come to you.
27:23
Speaker 3: Ah goodness me, she said the words straight line there
27:25
Speaker 3: without a trigger warning point of personal privilege. How dare
27:29
Speaker 3: raise his gender woman speak. I mean, the whole thing
27:33
Speaker 3: is nuts. Everything you see there is a sign of
27:36
Speaker 3: civilizational decline. Let's stay in Canada, and guys, I really
27:41
Speaker 3: don't think the country is okay. Let's type a look
27:44
Speaker 3: at what passes for talent at the country's premiere music
27:48
Speaker 3: awards show, Locus. Yeah is too sure, Yeah, Okay, that's
28:17
Speaker 3: enough of that. At least Nellie Fittado seemed to be
28:21
Speaker 3: liking a bless her. That was the Juno Awards to
28:24
Speaker 3: honor achievements in Canadian music, and the night was hosted
28:28
Speaker 3: by actress and alleged comic Martin, who's about as funny as.
28:33
Speaker 8: An ingrown toe.
28:34
Speaker 3: Now Here she talks about Davos, you know, the location
28:38
Speaker 3: for the World Economic Forum.
28:40
Speaker 8: She talks about how proud.
28:41
Speaker 3: She was of her weak, lefty, soy boy prime Minister.
28:46
Speaker 11: I do have to say though, that when I saw
28:48
Speaker 11: Mark Curney's speech.
28:49
Speaker 2: At Davos, did you see that?
28:53
Speaker 8: I felt a child like prime.
28:55
Speaker 11: I felt like he was Canada's dad, sticking up to
28:58
Speaker 11: the bullies.
28:58
Speaker 2: I was like, that's my promin.
29:01
Speaker 11: And then I saw him posing with the cast of
29:03
Speaker 11: heated rivalry and just.
29:04
Speaker 2: My nervous my nervous system just relaxed.
29:09
Speaker 8: Her nervous system relaxed. Guys.
29:12
Speaker 3: Yet, Canada most definitely is not okay, And who the
29:16
Speaker 3: hell is.
29:16
Speaker 8: A heated rivalry?
29:18
Speaker 3: Who cares now to the issue of male bodies in
29:22
Speaker 3: women's sport? And one massive beneficiary of that has been
29:27
Speaker 3: cast out Seminar, who was born with a difference in
29:30
Speaker 3: sex development. But he has x y chromosomes, a genetic
29:35
Speaker 3: male who won Olympic gold running against women. That will
29:39
Speaker 3: no longer be possible under new sane rules adopted by
29:43
Speaker 3: the IOC.
29:44
Speaker 8: And he says, that's unfair.
29:47
Speaker 15: You know the medical terms, what they tell me, or
29:50
Speaker 15: my testosterone. You know, being born you know without the utrahs,
29:54
Speaker 15: you know, being born with internal testa goals.
29:57
Speaker 2: Those don't make me less a woman.
29:59
Speaker 3: Is just the.
29:59
Speaker 15: Different is that I was born with and I embraced them.
30:03
Speaker 3: Dude, I'm pretty sure testes do make you a man. Now,
30:08
Speaker 3: get ready to lose some brain cells because we're about
30:11
Speaker 3: to hear from a Guardian writer who claims women are
30:15
Speaker 3: better than men in soccer.
30:17
Speaker 16: This is actually why women's football was abolished by the
30:21
Speaker 16: Football Association in the twenties, which because women were too
30:24
Speaker 16: good and if you put them on the same team,
30:26
Speaker 16: men got upset. And that has been the evolution of
30:29
Speaker 16: male and female sports.
30:31
Speaker 8: That's a said. You look very skeptical, but it's true.
30:37
Speaker 3: That level of delusion, that level of ignorance, is frankly dangerous.
30:43
Speaker 8: Here's a reality check.
30:44
Speaker 3: High school boys teams could beat women's soccer teams, national
30:49
Speaker 3: soccer teams. Remember Australia's elite national women's team losing seven
30:54
Speaker 3: nil to a bunch of thirteen and fourteen year olds
30:57
Speaker 3: from Newcastle. Yes, beaten seven nil the Newcastle under fifteen
31:01
Speaker 3: boys team. And I'm talking about Newcastle in Australia, not
31:05
Speaker 3: the UK. Now, let's go to CNN, who had delivered
31:08
Speaker 3: a brutal reality check about this issue.
31:12
Speaker 8: They weren't expecting this.
31:14
Speaker 17: You were the face of the Olympics for so many years.
31:17
Speaker 17: This news today about the IOC basically banning trans athletes,
31:23
Speaker 17: that there's going to be a genetic test. Your reaction
31:26
Speaker 17: to that and this very complicated issue.
31:29
Speaker 15: Common sense is not transphobic. There's a reason why the
31:33
Speaker 15: high school champions don't compete with the college champions. There
31:37
Speaker 15: is a reason why no trans man who was once
31:41
Speaker 15: a woman and has become a man has ever competed
31:44
Speaker 15: successfully with men in the Olympics.
31:48
Speaker 2: If Caitlin Clark could play.
31:49
Speaker 15: In the NBA, everybody would applaud it.
31:51
Speaker 2: That'd be an incredible thing.
31:53
Speaker 15: But if the last guy on the bench of an
31:54
Speaker 15: NBA team went to the WNBA and started averaging forty
31:57
Speaker 15: points a game, everyone would know that that is BS.
32:01
Speaker 15: It doesn't make any sense to have a swimmer who
32:04
Speaker 15: was the four hundred and seventy second ranked swimmer when
32:07
Speaker 15: he was a man at Penn either winning or coming
32:10
Speaker 15: close to winning against women. A year and a half
32:13
Speaker 15: after transitioning Bravo.
32:16
Speaker 3: Sticking with CNN, who never missed an opportunity to be
32:19
Speaker 3: the Democrat's unofficial propaganda arm.
32:22
Speaker 8: Here the anchor here listened to.
32:24
Speaker 3: A litany of lies, all of it unchallenged, but she
32:28
Speaker 3: does pop up at the very end to make one correction.
32:32
Speaker 18: It's a voter intimidation, voter suppression effort, and the president
32:36
Speaker 18: is tying tsapay to that, which is also absurd. And also,
32:42
Speaker 18: I don't want to give a penny more to TSA
32:45
Speaker 18: or DHS, even if they are already funded, because what
32:49
Speaker 18: I'm hearing from constituents and what I'm seeing is that
32:51
Speaker 18: they're dragging women by their hair, throwing him into unmarked vance,
32:54
Speaker 18: chasing people through the fields and factories where they work.
32:57
Speaker 18: They've committed public executions, two of them, and co signing
33:01
Speaker 18: off on this is just not who we are as Americans.
33:04
Speaker 18: And there's a simple way to do this. I think
33:05
Speaker 18: you point that out at the top, and the Senate
33:07
Speaker 18: majority leader would be wise to take that deal.
33:10
Speaker 12: I think that you may have misspoken.
33:12
Speaker 13: You said, Tsa, you don't want to give another penny
33:15
Speaker 13: to TSA.
33:15
Speaker 18: I think that you meant I'm sorry, I thank you.
33:18
Speaker 18: I meant ice.
33:20
Speaker 3: Let's bring in sky News contributing out Kosha geta kosher
33:24
Speaker 3: It is CNN.
33:26
Speaker 8: I shouldn't be surprised, and yet I am.
33:29
Speaker 1: She reminds me of, you know, we've all been in
33:31
Speaker 1: school and been in the study group, and there's that
33:33
Speaker 1: one person who has no value to add other than
33:35
Speaker 1: just fixing grammar on the side thing, no substantive contributions.
33:39
Speaker 1: That's what she reminded me of, She swallowell. They're all
33:42
Speaker 1: part of the apparatus and they've got to stick to
33:45
Speaker 1: the narrative. And they know that they're on the losing
33:46
Speaker 1: side of the narrative for this because public opinion as
33:49
Speaker 1: it relates to illegal immigration has completely left them and
33:53
Speaker 1: as a business model, their ratings are circling the drain.
33:56
Speaker 1: So they're kind of stuck between a rock and a
33:58
Speaker 1: hard place. Or how do they let go of that
34:01
Speaker 1: ideological loyalty that they have while doing something to turn
34:04
Speaker 1: the business around and everything from seeing their star hosts
34:09
Speaker 1: remake their sets like podcasts yeats, which was so funny,
34:12
Speaker 1: to this, I don't think they've quite found the winning
34:14
Speaker 1: formula just yet.
34:15
Speaker 3: That's been fascinating in itself. To see the likes of
34:19
Speaker 3: Anderson and Tappa in these trying to be Joe Roganrogan
34:24
Speaker 3: and having a set that kind of looks like Joe
34:26
Speaker 3: Rogan doesn't make you Joe Rogan. It's about the content stupid,
34:29
Speaker 3: and the content is still rubbish. Now we've spoken about
34:33
Speaker 3: the tragic murder of teenager Sheridan Gorman, gunned down by
34:36
Speaker 3: an illegal immigrant in the sanctuary city of Chicago, and
34:41
Speaker 3: May Brandon Johnson, who has marched against ice, he was
34:45
Speaker 3: asked about his own activism, his own policies leading to
34:51
Speaker 3: Sheridan's murder.
34:53
Speaker 19: You think this opportunity to apologize to Sheridan's parents for
34:58
Speaker 19: the policies that promoted that that would directly caused her death.
35:04
Speaker 19: It sounds like would not be in the city, would
35:06
Speaker 19: not be in the country, but for your policies. Will
35:08
Speaker 19: you take this opportunity to apologele.
35:10
Speaker 18: Again at that we're all grieving the loss of Sheridan
35:14
Speaker 18: and other folks who have lost their lives are because
35:17
Speaker 18: of since its violence.
35:19
Speaker 8: Kosher.
35:20
Speaker 3: He was happy marching against.
35:23
Speaker 8: Ice that was just last month.
35:25
Speaker 3: Even has made the snowplows in Chicago bear anti Ice
35:30
Speaker 3: signage like it's some massive joke.
35:34
Speaker 8: Does he have some.
35:35
Speaker 3: Responsibility for what happened to Sheridan Gorman?
35:40
Speaker 8: He does.
35:40
Speaker 1: I mean he is one player, maybe a two bit player,
35:43
Speaker 1: but he is one player in the whole set of
35:46
Speaker 1: players on the chessboard that have led to this scenario
35:48
Speaker 1: over forty years, you know, well before his time, as
35:50
Speaker 1: he mentioned that, but certainly including him. As we're of Chicago,
35:54
Speaker 1: he's a chief executive of the city he controlled. He
35:57
Speaker 1: can issue executive orders. That's one thing he can do
35:59
Speaker 1: because he controls logistics and how different departments, including the
36:02
Speaker 1: Chicago PD, cooperate or not in this case with ICE
36:06
Speaker 1: and with the Feds. He very happily is continuing that policy.
36:10
Speaker 1: It has been around for eighty years. They don't share information.
36:12
Speaker 1: If they happen to incidentally catch an illegal committing a
36:15
Speaker 1: lesser crime, they're meant to share that with ICE so
36:17
Speaker 1: that you can advance deportations. They don't do any of
36:19
Speaker 1: that on purpose. And the other way where he can
36:22
Speaker 1: make a difference is in public influence and shaping the
36:25
Speaker 1: narrative and talking about illegal immigration and all the rest
36:27
Speaker 1: of it. But of course he won't do that because
36:29
Speaker 1: he's an apparatchick. His side has a playbook. It's been
36:32
Speaker 1: working because they have made in power for eighty years,
36:35
Speaker 1: and whenever some day this happens, he'll just dodge and
36:38
Speaker 1: continue on.
36:38
Speaker 8: His merry way.
36:39
Speaker 3: Now, many in the US are not even aware of
36:42
Speaker 3: this crime, the tragic senseless murder of teenagers. Share it
36:46
Speaker 3: and Gorman have a look at the limited coverage this
36:50
Speaker 3: crime has received on mainstream outlets like ABAC, NBC, CBS,
36:55
Speaker 3: NBAC divided just twenty three seconds to the story in
37:00
Speaker 3: a week.
37:00
Speaker 8: And this is something Caroline.
37:02
Speaker 3: Leavitt, White House Press Secretary, addressed earlier today.
37:06
Speaker 11: Young beautiful American woman whose life was taken short by
37:10
Speaker 11: an illegal alien who should have never been here in
37:12
Speaker 11: the first place. When we are in the middle of
37:14
Speaker 11: a battle on Capitol Hill with a major political party,
37:17
Speaker 11: the Democrat Party, who wants to defund the agency that
37:20
Speaker 11: is responsible for protecting Americans, I think her life was
37:23
Speaker 11: worth more than twenty three seconds on cable television. And
37:26
Speaker 11: I think the people in this room have a responsibility
37:28
Speaker 11: to report on cases like this.
37:31
Speaker 8: And it's what you spoke about with CNN.
37:34
Speaker 3: It's this ideological position they have that determines what stories
37:39
Speaker 3: they how they cover them, how much they cover them.
37:42
Speaker 3: I mean, this story any day of the week should
37:45
Speaker 3: be leading a news service. You've got an innocent teenager
37:49
Speaker 3: walking by the lake being gunned down, and then you've
37:54
Speaker 3: got people counselors saying, oh, well, maybe she startle the shooter.
37:58
Speaker 8: I mean, the victim blaming that went on immediately.
38:01
Speaker 3: Afterwards was disgusting, and yet the media is barely covering it.
38:05
Speaker 1: The only silver lining is the ratings for all of
38:08
Speaker 1: these networks are down, and also they are consolidated with
38:11
Speaker 1: the smaller and smaller and shrinking, drinking swap of society.
38:14
Speaker 1: It's basically the sixty five seventy plus crowd that is
38:18
Speaker 1: watching cable news in general, certainly on TV and also
38:21
Speaker 1: the big broadcast network. So that's the only thing that
38:24
Speaker 1: while they gave no coverage twenty seconds or less, independent
38:27
Speaker 1: media has covered it and continues to cover these things
38:30
Speaker 1: quite a bit. They are winning bit by bit. It's
38:33
Speaker 1: just leading to this very fragmented electorate where you've got
38:37
Speaker 1: people in these echo chambers, and the ones who participate
38:40
Speaker 1: in digital media and independent media know what's going on
38:42
Speaker 1: and see these stories, and the ones who are still
38:44
Speaker 1: only watching news on television don't. And it's almost like
38:47
Speaker 1: there's two Americas taking place at the same time, two
38:50
Speaker 1: movies on one screen.
38:51
Speaker 3: Now, let's talk about the conflict in Iran and overnight prisident.
38:56
Speaker 3: Trump made all sorts of threats to the Iranian regime,
39:00
Speaker 3: including destroying Iran's energy plants and oil wells if it
39:04
Speaker 3: does not reopen the strait of mouse.
39:07
Speaker 8: Tell me about the choices the US is facing.
39:10
Speaker 3: That kosher because the Uranian regime seems to have a
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Speaker 3: death wish. They are being absolutely decimated, but they're continuing.
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Speaker 8: They're refusing to do a deal.
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Speaker 3: Is the US going to have to seriously consider ground
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Speaker 3: troops or is that just such an palatable idea domestically
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Speaker 3: that they're going to have to come to some sort
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Speaker 3: of a deal to exit this conflict.
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Speaker 2: That is the question.
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Speaker 1: I think the answer is kind of both. They hate
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Speaker 1: to see it because it is very unpalatable domestically, everybody
39:42
Speaker 1: fears that you're just going down or up that escalatory ladder,
39:45
Speaker 1: getting sucked into quagmar. It's just even more unpalatable given
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Speaker 1: that it is the Trump administration which campaigned against doing that.
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Speaker 1: But the more they're in this and Iran has showed
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Speaker 1: that they are a clever adversary and they know what
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Speaker 1: their cards are. They know they control the straight up
40:00
Speaker 1: or moves at how important that is for global energy
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Speaker 1: markets and everything else, and they are really playing that
40:05
Speaker 1: card to the hill. So we're sort of in this
40:08
Speaker 1: very tough position. If you just look at the deployments
40:11
Speaker 1: that are happening, it looks as though dare I say,
40:14
Speaker 1: boots on the ground is certainly becoming a more and
40:17
Speaker 1: more real possibility. But then Trump is always giving mixed messages.
40:20
Speaker 1: So even this statement that you read that he gave,
40:22
Speaker 1: he sort of ended in a different way from where
40:24
Speaker 1: he began. So he's keeping everybody guest saying we don't know. Ultimately,
40:28
Speaker 1: there's three options either taken off ramp, claim victory for
40:32
Speaker 1: whatever has been achieved so far, or stay and keep
40:35
Speaker 1: trying to do a deal, which is kind of his
40:38
Speaker 1: tends to always be his comfort zone or you're going
40:41
Speaker 1: down at exculatory ladder, and then we just don't know
40:43
Speaker 1: what happens from there. Is it three thousand troops, is
40:46
Speaker 1: it one hundred thousand troops, is it three weeks, is
40:48
Speaker 1: it three months? Nobody knows, and it's a whole new.
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Speaker 8: So the goalpost keeps shifting as well.
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Speaker 3: Initially, the death of the Ietola that was a huge coup.
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Speaker 8: That was you could say, we've achieved what.
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Speaker 3: We wanted to achieve and we've eliminated their nuclear capacity.
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Speaker 8: That was the primary reason.
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Speaker 3: To start this conflict against the Iranian regime. But now
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Speaker 3: the goal seemed to have shifted. Now, unless there is
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Speaker 3: regime change, then there's a viewpoint that well, mission unaccomplished.
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Speaker 1: It hasn't helped. So it started with we don't want
41:25
Speaker 1: them to get nukes, But then the word President Trump
41:28
Speaker 1: used after Operation of Midnight Hammer a year ago was
41:30
Speaker 1: they've been obliterated. That was the word that he used.
41:32
Speaker 1: So then everybody's like, well, then why did we have
41:34
Speaker 1: to go back in. Then it shifted to well, we
41:36
Speaker 1: don't want them to enrich, which is kind of what
41:39
Speaker 1: they're talking about now. At some point it was Diatola
41:41
Speaker 1: and taking out the regime. Then it was We're going
41:43
Speaker 1: to sink the navy and destroy their air capacity, which
41:46
Speaker 1: has happened. At some point, it was humanitarians. So it
41:49
Speaker 1: really has been all over the board. And it's very
41:50
Speaker 1: unusual for Trump, who is very savvy with media and
41:53
Speaker 1: messaging and knowing what the electric wants. So I have
41:56
Speaker 1: to think that there's some method to the madness. But he,
41:59
Speaker 1: I mean, his Paul and members are really really taking
42:01
Speaker 1: a hit, and he is losing confidence from a lot
42:03
Speaker 1: of people in his broader coalition. Not the diehard nigaphuns,
42:06
Speaker 1: but the broader coalition is very nervous.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely amongst independents who he won enormously at the presidential election,
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Speaker 3: he's underwater and come the midterms, he needs those voters
42:21
Speaker 3: otherwise it's going to be a bit of an electoral bloodbath.
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Speaker 8: Koshagator, thank you so much for your time. Thanks still
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Speaker 8: to come.
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Speaker 3: Alex Stein will share the fun he had at a
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Speaker 3: pro trans rally over the weekend. He's coming up next,
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Speaker 3: Welcome back.
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Speaker 8: Well.
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Speaker 3: Over the weekend, the city of Dallas took part in
42:49
Speaker 3: a trans Day of Visibility protest and friend of the
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Speaker 3: show Alex Stein ventured down and got quite a surprise
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Speaker 3: when he met some of the protesters'.
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Speaker 12: Joyman's dress room.
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Speaker 18: That was weird as hell.
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Speaker 8: That was weird as hell.
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Speaker 12: I just got sexy assaulted by transgender.
43:08
Speaker 3: Joining me now is the host of After Hours with
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Speaker 3: Alex Stein on Real America's Voice.
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Speaker 8: Alex, Now, I don't want to be accused.
43:16
Speaker 3: Of victim blaming here, but you were out there just
43:19
Speaker 3: agitating these people, and many of them are already unbalanced
43:23
Speaker 3: before you join in the mix.
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Speaker 12: Well, Rita, you know me very well. You know how
43:28
Speaker 12: unbalanced I am. So I mean, what am I going
43:31
Speaker 12: to do about it? And let's be real that that
43:34
Speaker 12: person that kissed me, Luckily they were a biological female,
43:37
Speaker 12: so nothing too crazy happened. I know that they're LARPing
43:41
Speaker 12: as a boy, but I could tell that they were
43:43
Speaker 12: just a female just by the way that their body
43:46
Speaker 12: was shaped in the hips. So you know, I'm prior time,
43:48
Speaker 12: Alex Stein. They never see an ultimate gig at Chad
43:51
Speaker 12: like myself at these events, so you saw these soy boys,
43:53
Speaker 12: So I'm not surprised that she was attracted to me
43:56
Speaker 12: and came up and kissed me.
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Speaker 3: Save her yet, Alex just get out of these marches
44:03
Speaker 3: a bit more, and you may save some of these
44:06
Speaker 3: lost girls. Now, we saw over the weekend these mass
44:10
Speaker 3: rallies across America.
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Speaker 8: They're no King's rallies to protest against Donald Trump. Haven't
44:16
Speaker 8: looked here.
44:16
Speaker 3: As a reporter for Bravard is assaulted and then threatened
44:21
Speaker 3: by protester.
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Speaker 8: Who was that about? You just touched me?
44:31
Speaker 3: No, you're touching me, Alex. What did you make of
44:36
Speaker 3: those protests? Did you get amongst them? Did you try
44:40
Speaker 3: to change some hearts and minds?
44:43
Speaker 12: Well, Reda, There wasn't a lot of dialogue at the
44:46
Speaker 12: protest that I went to, but I did notice the
44:48
Speaker 12: shocking trend. A lot of the violence was not from
44:52
Speaker 12: young people. It was from basically, I would say, the
44:55
Speaker 12: boomer class, the really elderly. I mean a woman came
44:59
Speaker 12: up to me and hit my found in a similar
45:00
Speaker 12: fashion like that, and she was a woman probably in
45:03
Speaker 12: her seventies. So I thought that was very unusual that
45:06
Speaker 12: these people that really didn't have a clear agenda on
45:08
Speaker 12: what they were protesting for. We considering we don't have
45:10
Speaker 12: kings here in America, I was really surprised that they
45:13
Speaker 12: were the ones making violent Usually that's somebody that's young
45:15
Speaker 12: and not somebody that you know was in their sixties
45:18
Speaker 12: or seventies.
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Speaker 3: Now, former reality star turned La Met candidate Spencer Pratt
45:25
Speaker 3: has released a campaign video that has got people talking.
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Speaker 3: Let's have a look at a bit of it.
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Speaker 2: Are you encoded with the trip? We off the map?
45:34
Speaker 12: Father Hills brought by.
45:36
Speaker 2: She was pumping from.
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Speaker 8: A broad Paly said, though out the nane smoking the sky.
45:42
Speaker 3: We were coming in like you think she was saying
45:44
Speaker 3: bye bye.
45:49
Speaker 2: Look what you left on a.
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Speaker 8: La looking like a closet where the junkins are. Latino
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Speaker 8: is for Pratt. I'm gonna say it's got a bit
46:03
Speaker 8: of a vibe to us.
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Speaker 3: Spencer Pratt thinks he can dethrow in the current LI
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Speaker 3: Met Karen Bass.
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Speaker 8: Is he dreaming Alex Or is he a genuine chance?
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Speaker 12: Well, you know they've given Spencer a lot of problems.
46:18
Speaker 12: I believe in the latest debate they didn't let him,
46:20
Speaker 12: you know, have a chance to actually debate anybody. But
46:23
Speaker 12: let me tell you something, i am the biggest the
46:25
Speaker 12: Hills and Laguna Beach fan. I'm a huge reality TV
46:28
Speaker 12: you know officionado and Spencer Pratt is fearless he's bold,
46:32
Speaker 12: and you have a stay like California and a city
46:35
Speaker 12: like La that has been mismanaged so poorly that honestly,
46:39
Speaker 12: a reality TV show star couldn't do any worse than
46:43
Speaker 12: his predecessors. I mean, and at this point, La is
46:46
Speaker 12: a town about glicten glamour. Why not put a guy
46:48
Speaker 12: like Sitcher Pridden in charge you? At least he's gonna
46:51
Speaker 12: put water in the fire hydrants because he, you know,
46:53
Speaker 12: had his house burned down. So that's the best way
46:56
Speaker 12: you learned from something is when something bad happens to you.
46:58
Speaker 12: And I think he paid the pride. So I think
47:00
Speaker 12: that he would be the great mayor, and if I
47:03
Speaker 12: could vote for him, I would, But I am going
47:05
Speaker 12: to get a bunch of illegals to vote for him,
47:06
Speaker 12: so hopefully that is what it takes to put him
47:08
Speaker 12: over at the top.
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Speaker 3: Are there any sane people left in California though, or La?
47:14
Speaker 3: Because the exodus has been quite enormous in recent years.
47:21
Speaker 3: The same people have been moving to states like Texas
47:25
Speaker 3: where you are Tennessee Florida. They've been getting your way
47:28
Speaker 3: from the crime and those exorbitant taxes. When only the
47:33
Speaker 3: crazies are left you're probably going to get another term
47:36
Speaker 3: for Karen Bass, aren't you.
47:39
Speaker 12: Well, I hope not. I mean, Karen Bass is such
47:42
Speaker 12: a horrible mayor. I mean, I know that's she stated
47:45
Speaker 12: the obvious, But when it comes to what happened with
47:46
Speaker 12: the fires, that could have been at least maybe not prevented,
47:49
Speaker 12: but they could have been slowed down tremendously, and they
47:52
Speaker 12: only have water in the reservoirs. So I don't know
47:54
Speaker 12: how a person could do much worse unless she's purposely
47:57
Speaker 12: trying to do bad, unless she's purposely trying to tank
48:00
Speaker 12: the real estate prices. So there are a few bid
48:02
Speaker 12: people left in California, which you're exactly right. Most of
48:06
Speaker 12: them moved to Florida and Texas because they can't afford
48:08
Speaker 12: to live there, even if you're a successful individual, because
48:10
Speaker 12: the government taxes you so much. And then what do
48:13
Speaker 12: they see their tax dollars go to, Not to clean
48:15
Speaker 12: up the homeless, not for health care, not for any
48:18
Speaker 12: social issues they care about. It's literally wasted away for
48:21
Speaker 12: absolutely no benefit whatsoever for the taxpayer.
48:26
Speaker 3: Now, before you go sticking with California, the current governor there,
48:31
Speaker 3: Gavin Newsom, is considered a front runner to be the
48:35
Speaker 3: Democrats presidential candidate next time around. Can you see that happening.
48:41
Speaker 3: He's got a lot going for him. He's good looking,
48:44
Speaker 3: he's got a little bit of charm and charisma. You
48:47
Speaker 3: can't manufacture that, and he's going to get a golden
48:51
Speaker 3: run from the media.
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Speaker 8: Alex, that's going to be helpful.
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Speaker 12: No, you're exactly right. But if you just look at
48:57
Speaker 12: Gavin Newsm's for resume when he was mayor, he slept
49:00
Speaker 12: with his chief of staff's wife. I mean, the guy's
49:02
Speaker 12: a total creed for pervert. But the fact that he's
49:05
Speaker 12: been able to continually win in California new shows that
49:08
Speaker 12: he could definitely win all the other liberal states. So
49:11
Speaker 12: I'm very worried, and I do think that he is
49:13
Speaker 12: going to be somebody that definitely gives the next conservative
49:17
Speaker 12: candidate a big push. I mean, it's going to be
49:20
Speaker 12: a tough battle, whether it's JD. Vans or Marco Rubio.
49:23
Speaker 12: So we shouldn't underestimate the power of Gavin Newsom. Like
49:26
Speaker 12: you said, he's got the look and he's got the
49:28
Speaker 12: talking down. I mean, he has all the attributes that
49:31
Speaker 12: you need to win an election. So I don't think
49:33
Speaker 12: he'll win, but he's going to put him a fight.
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Speaker 3: Alex Stein, thank you so much for your time tonight,
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Speaker 3: and that's all the time we have.
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Speaker 8: News Night is up next