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Paul English Live 061126,,- Banking’s Back Room: Ian Clifford on Credit Creation, DTCC and Taking Our Power Back · Global Voice Radio Network's tracks

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  Unknown: And hi. Good evening, everybody, and, welcome. It's,
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  Paul English live number one four three. It's been a November day here in June in jolly old England. That won't surprise anybody, I guess.
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  Slightly different format tonight, which I'll tell you about momentarily,
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  but hope you're all got your trousers on and you're ready to rock and roll. Welcome to the show.
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  The trees are swaying in the breeze to the rhythm of this music. It's blowing a hula outside. Eric's gonna be along in about an hour, and we've got our guest along for hour one. It's all reversal this evening. Isn't that interesting?
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  Fingers crossed, we're gonna have a technically trouser trouble free evening.
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  I'm having a break.
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  A bad sequence.
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  Well, hi, everyone, and welcome back. Hope you all had a jolly good week. It's not been jolly good out there in the world of political fun. Mayhem night. Mayhem
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  Oh, that was strange.
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  Oh, sorry about that. Don't know what was going on there. I'm trying to find I think I know what's happening. Something's actually feeding back from the main
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  from the main feed, which, of course, is very, very irritating.
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  But, anyway, welcome to the show. See, I can't sort of do one without it being slightly cocked up at the beginning. What did happen there? Anyway, never mind.
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  As I was just saying there at the beginning, Eric's gonna be along in about an hour's time, just after 09:00.
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  But for hour one here,
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  I've got a guest on who I wanted to speak to for some time. I saw him about six or seven months ago, actually, on the Unity News Network, and, he's imminently gonna have a show on Food for Thought Network in, in a few weeks' time. Actually, a week tomorrow, I think. But Ian Clifford hello good evening and welcome to the show well
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  Unknown: good evening Paul and thank you for inviting me
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  Unknown: no it's good to have you here sorry about all that did you just get a blaze of echo there piling back into your head
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  did it go correct
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  Unknown: was wondering whether it was my end, but I'm glad that I'm glad that you figured it out.
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  Unknown: Yeah. I did. So am I. I'm quite glad about I'm
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  quite glad about that too. That's gonna require a little bit of of post show editing.
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  But, Ian, some people may well know who you are. I only barely know you. We had a chat, didn't we, the other day, which was great, really good stuff, and there you were in all the sunshine.
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  And we always start off with the weather to get our feet under the table. So have you been having good weather today?
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  Unknown: Well where I am at this time of the year it's predictably blue sky and about 30 degrees and it's very much like that.
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  It has been like that today.
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  Yeah,
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  I'm in Cyprus so
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  apart from the winter months which were a bit bizarre over here, many people who lived here for a long time
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  said it was a very unusual winter but it's now become
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  predictably summer here.
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  Unknown: Groovy.
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  Yeah. Well, that's all it's been well, it's been really bad here. It's like November. So we've
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  had a November day here today,
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  which has been a bit much, frankly. You know, it's not what it's not really what we're after.
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  And
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  but you'll be very pleased to know that I did give I did give it a good go trying to get through your 30 page document this today and yesterday.
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  Oh. And before we even mention that, it might be just useful if you give I'd like to know just a little bit of background. I've got a sort of vague idea about your,
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  thorough professional immersion as it were in the beast system. Let's call it that. Let's start off to a racy start, but in the financial system.
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  I assume you're no longer sort of fully immersed in it.
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  Unknown: No,
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  I'm not. I mean, I've I've basically crossed over to
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  to a much lighter
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  side, even though I didn't realize when I was immersed in it that I was in the darkness. But now
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  many years later and looking back
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  over my career,
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  I was very much in the darkness without without realizing it, which is
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  largely what most
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  of the so called professionals don't actually realize what they're doing.
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  Because, you know, we're a bit brainwashed really,
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  bit programmed, bit brainwashed,
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  and everybody around us is kind of doing the same thing.
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  Yeah, I had a rude awakening.
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  It's
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  a long journey I've been on but I'm very happy to be where I am now as opposed to where I was before.
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  Unknown: So yeah.
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  So when did you
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  when have you sort of always been a lot what should I call it the financial services industry? I'll call it that for now. You can correct me as we go along.
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  But was that your main professional life from, I don't know, leaving school, university or whatever? Is that has that always been your sort of career path? Is that the right way to explain it? Yeah, I guess so. My
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  Unknown: passion was football. I was tipped to be a professional footballer. I had a head on car collision when I was 18 that
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  put paid to my dream of playing football.
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  And
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  I went into engineering actually, I went into
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  financial,
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  my financial life started when I was 19.
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  For about a year I did mechanical engineering and thought that might be a future for me but realized it wasn't
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  inspiring
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  me very much. Then I got the opportunity to
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  get into financial services and
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  I did in around about 1984.
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  And that was the beginning of
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  journey
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  I've been on and I guess even today I'm still very much focusing on the money system,
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  which you know I think I've figured it out now. It's taken me forty years but
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  yeah,
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  a long career, done many things,
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  operated at fairly high level,
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  climbed up from nowhere really,
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  was offered
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  a deal that many people would have taken but I didn't, became a whistleblower,
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  I've been battling the establishment
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  since around about 2009.
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  I'm here in North Cyprus because
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  if the establishment had their way they'd have me in jail at the moment for some cooked up
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  bullshit,
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  contempt of court, which was an entrapment by design.
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  Because it's a bit dangerous, I think a lot of the
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  establishment
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  are a bit concerned about my knowledge,
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  and my ability to
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  build things and build solutions.
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  Know, I've basically been doing financial engineering
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  from
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  around
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  about the age of 19.
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  I realized I had a bit of talent for solving problems and that's what I've been doing for
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  many many years. And the establishment don't like that. They
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  want dystopia,
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  they want people to be in fear,
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  Unknown: and they don't want Yeah, they're very good at that. They're very good at that.
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  I mean, there are so you you you've had a path where you were let's say this. You started off down that engineering and financial path, and and you and it's normal. Let's call it that for now. It's normal.
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  And then you start to develop further things. I mean, I I kinda got a flavor of it today from reading the book from reading your document, and I have to tell you, it's not for the layman, is it?
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  I didn't think it was. I mean, I really enjoyed the first eight or nine pages, and I went, okay, I'm beginning to melt now.
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  But I got the gist of it in terms of the keep. I I recognize certain principles that you were talking about, but was there kind of a movement away from being, oh, I'm a financial services guy or whatever you were talking into
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  there's something not quite right here, all the things that I'm doing are leading me in a particular direction and suddenly you're in a different space. Is that how it kind of went? I'm I'm just guessing here.
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  Unknown: Well it's a journey and you know my journey was very
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  much wealth management, fund management,
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  bit of investment banking stuff. I built a very successful
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  large financial services organization.
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  I signed up with the Bank of Scotland in a joint venture,
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  which is pretty unique in 2001.
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  Accelerated
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  my
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  firm, we became one of the biggest firms in The UK of our time.
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  And yeah, I thought that was my
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  pathway and you know I was building
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  various
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  solutions
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  not just in The UK but in The US
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  as well. I expanded
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  and you know I was on that growth path.
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  I was having a very good time and then we get to 2008
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  and
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  the bank basically told me that they were going to
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  steal the assets that I was managing on behalf of thousands of high net worth
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  clients. Then
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  I started to realize that
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  the banking cartel in The UK
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  didn't operate the way that I was expecting them to, and
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  Unknown: they offered me an opportunity to join with them at the very top. What year would this be then Ian? What year is that, round about when?
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  Unknown: Well it
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  started off in 2007
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  actually, about a year before the alleged financial crisis, which now that I completely understand how the money system works, there should never have been any crisis.
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  There should never be any crisis any year,
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  but
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  like all of these crises they're engineered.
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  And the bankers at the very top, they were engineering the crisis
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  about a year before it actually
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  struck
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  and they took me to one side and
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  basically told me what they were going to do and asked me whether I was
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  happy to join with them on their plan,
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  which at the time was too asset strip
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  because the bank was technically insolvent and
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  should have gone bust.
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  By that stage it was Halifax Bank of Scotland
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  that then led to the
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  Lloyds Bank and then it became a public bank
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  a couple of years later,
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  many people lost
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  their fortunes when Lloyd's Bank took over Halifax Bank of Scotland, share price collapsed,
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  and then it went into public ownership
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  and it was all really a massive cover up.
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  Anthony Stanfield,
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  was the police commissioner for the Thames Valley, he investigated
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  HBOS as
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  did many others,
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  his view was that there was a 40,000,000,000
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  balance
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  sheet hole from around about 2005,
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  I agreed And with
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  across top six banks
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  in that period between 2000 and seven-twenty
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  ten,
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  £90,000,000,000
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  worth of assets were stripped
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  from customers of banks.
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  The
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  perpetrators
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  have never been investigated properly.
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  Those at the very top always get away with it. There was a few scapegoats down lower down.
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  My firm was made a
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  taxi because we brought a lot of customers
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  to Bank of Scotland.
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  We had about £1,000,000,000
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  worth of assets under management and
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  a lot of that was credit
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  line where the bank was providing a credit line.
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  My firm had access to an unlimited credit line where we could offer credit to
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  investors, they would put a little bit of capital in, we would provide
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  the access to the credit line.
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  As long as the assets were being managed by my firm,
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  which is all part of the deal, then the bank was happy to advance the credit. Of course what I didn't know was that when I struck the joint venture with them in around 2001,
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  they had planned
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  to enable me to build up a massive asset pool so that they could strip it when it suited them. And that's what they did
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  from 2008
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  to 2010
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  when my firm was pushed into liquidation
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  to cover it all up.
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  And they took about £1,000,000,000 worth of my customers' assets. Then blame the world on me!
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  When the game changed.
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  An extraordinary period of time where I had a rude awakening on how things really work at the top.
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  So they used you basically as some kind of a patsy to sort of take the brunt of whatever it was that they'd cocked up, something like that? Yeah, they they gave me access to this credit line, the the condition of the deal was that I had to market it under the name of my firm which was called Integrity.
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  So I brought in the customers through a network of wealth management firms all across The UK.
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  It was a unique program, I designed
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  12 financial planning programs
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  that were fairly unique, all relied on
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  a credit line and an asset pool,
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  which my firm was acquiring,
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  managing,
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  did all the admin,
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  it was a very successful program.
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  The wealth management
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  market loved it, it was unique,
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  it grew rapidly
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  and
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  you know
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  everything was going extremely well and it should have been going
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  very well, you know, long long time after the collapse.
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  But the bank wanted to build the assets up so that they could basically
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  take them to
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  shore up their balance sheet and that's what they
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  that's what they did. And it wasn't just my firm that this happened to,
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  there were lots of other examples of asset stripping.
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  So yeah, was made a patsy, I didn't realize it, and then I was made the scope go.
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  And then I made the
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  bold move of blowing the whistle on the bank to the
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  Bank of England, I blew the whistle to the Treasury,
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  blew the whistle to the financial services authority.
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  And this was before I realized that at the very top of the financial system,
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  and I strongly suspect it's the same at the top of any
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  of the main
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  control systems that are running and money system It's is one of the
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  all very dark,
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  it's the complete inverse of what it appears.
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  The banks rule
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  the system,
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  the regulators
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  are the bitches of the banks,
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  the regulators every now and again fine banks
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  just to make it look good, but basically the banks run
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  the money system
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  and the regulators are just there for show,
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  they're just there to make it look like there's some integrity, there's a bit of honor,
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  but my experience
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  has revealed that there's no honor, there's no integrity,
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  it's all about control,
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  it's about power,
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  you know, very dark at the very very top.
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  Unknown: I'm shocked, Ian. Of course, I'm shocked. I'm taken aback.
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  Mean I don't I don't have have the sort of now sort of knowledge of of how it all works in the in the detailed understanding and knowledge that you clearly have. And I'm saying that although people out here aren't aware of that document I was reading today, and we can talk about these documents that you've written as well.
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  But, I mean, in terms of the sort of background to the whole thing,
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  you know, I'm I'm basically a neophyte in comparison to sort of the technical knowledge that you have about the whole thing.
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  Since that has happened, though, since let let's say that's your big bang.
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  Look at me just throwing words around, but you have this moment, you suddenly do you find, maybe you've already had your suspicions, but they get confirmed clearly during this period
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  that they're all in on it together, and one is like a bunch of actors, and I'm gonna help you, but basically, they're fattening you up like a pig so they can eat you later on or whatever's going on.
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  At that point,
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  did you have you kind of taken that knowledge and put it in a different direction, or were you always that's the sort of impression I've got from looking at the document that suddenly
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  your insider
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  knowledge with regards to the machinery
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  of all of the pieces of paper that they use,
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  you've now redirected that in another direction. Is that something close to it or am I assuming too much? Yeah. Well, it took a little it took a little time.
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  Unknown: You see that the like all the professions,
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  you know, you go through all these
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  courses,
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  you study, I mean I studied for seven years, I've got loaded qualifications,
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  sadly got letters after my name and all these kind of things which you think you need if you want to succeed
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  in that area and be taken seriously. But they don't actually teach you how the system really works. I didn't learn
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  that until
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  after my firm had been destroyed,
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  know, the scapegoat,
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  you know, suddenly you're I was sadly,
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  was
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  on, not me personally, but my firm was featured on two television programs,
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  Rip Off Britain and
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  Watch Dog, which were fairly big shows
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  back in around 2010.
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  I was ambushed on the Money Box', which was the Radio two money show on a Saturday.
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  My name and firm name was all over the newspapers,
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  the internet was covering,
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  and suddenly you've gone from being somebody who was very proud and a lot of people wanted you to
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  be involved in their ventures and you you got I was asked to speak
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  at various events and I've won awards and all these kind of good things and then suddenly nobody wants to know you.
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  Your firms are being destroyed,
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  a lot of your so called friends don't want to talk to you anymore,
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  you're labeled as the fraudster
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  because a
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  billion pounds worth of assets have
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  gone and
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  everybody
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  who was reading about it and listening to stories and
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  watching TV programs back in those days, you know, thought that I was the bad guy.
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  They had no comprehension of what really happened.
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  I never got the chance to tell my story.
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  I tried,
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  I tried showing
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  how naive I was back then. I went to MPs, went to two very prominent MPs
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  who
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  looked like they were going to investigate,
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  they were incensed by my story, they wanted to look into it, they were both warned off.
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  I went
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  through
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  meetings in parliament,
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  I went to see very senior people
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  who pretended that they were interested in the bigger picture of what I uncovered,
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  to then find out that they've been warned off and
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  that's when I began to realize that this was much bigger than just what happened to my firm.
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  This was a
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  much bigger cover up.
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  I say it's bigger than Hillsborough
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  and the post office scandal added together because
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  lots of people committed suicide.
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  Literally the banks took everything,
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  people lost everything that they built,
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  many families were torn apart by it,
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  and you know the psychopaths that run the banking system
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  just don't care and
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  the politicians
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  which were around at that time,
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  I'm going back to
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  Theresa May if you remember her.
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  Unknown: Unfortunately Ian I do, yes yes yeah I do remember Theresa May.
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  Unknown: George Hollenbury who was the secretary to Theresa May,
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  I had many meetings with him, he was her secretary at the time,
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  he looked like he was going to take it forward.
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  I met the minister for banking, he looked like he was going to take it forward.
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  I met various
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  other politicians
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  who
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  claimed that they were very interested in investigating
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  this and taking it up in parliament.
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  Suddenly you
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  don't hear from them anymore,
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  don't reply to you, they don't return your emails, they don't return your calls, they're never available when you call their office.
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  And then you realize it's much bigger than you thought.
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  That was really between 2010
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  to about 2012
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  when I tried all that.
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  I then started to think well
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  maybe I could appeal.
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  What happened, basically
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  they bribed
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  the liquidator to take a deal.
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  He stepped in my shoes, if you know anything about liquidation,
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  he stepped into my shoes
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  promising me that
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  my firm which was asset rich would be
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  returned to me in about a year after the liquidation.
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  That never happened.
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  He was
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  corrupted
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  by the establishment.
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  He took a bribe
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  basically
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  in exchange for the bribe,
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  he actually confirmed
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  stepping into my shoes as a director of the firm that the firm was guilty
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  of this 1,000,000,000
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  worth of assets disappearing.
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  Unknown: Nice,
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  Unknown: Oh that's good! And that ended up with a public censure of the firm which is if
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  you're in financial services and your firm is being publicly censured,
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  you don't come back from that.
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  Unknown: No.
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  Even though No. You know, one of the things Ian I've mentioned here, this might seem a bit sort of low it's not really actually. I've mentioned it many times. Liz Truss, the the famous
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  forty seven day prime minister.
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  I I currently don't have the I know people chuckle and everything, and and, there's all sorts of reasons why. I suppose many of them are good. She was on,
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  she was on a show with Steve Bannon, a radio show, about a year and a half back. I think it was the beginning of twenty twenty five. It must have been, I think. Mhmm. And,
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  Steve Bannon's the guy that was Trump's sort of handler or running mate or whatever. It doesn't really matter. I think he's in a lot of trouble as well, whatever that might mean. It's difficult to even be bothered about what's happening to them all. But she did a a a sort of radio gig with him, and I had a sort of one minute
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  clip from her.
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  And what she said was she said, the gist of it was she said,
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  how he says to her, said, oh, you wanted to get in and be prime minister and be like Winston Churchill, at which point I winced
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  a lot. No. Not like him. Pick anybody else, but not him. Anyway,
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  that's another story.
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  And, she said, well, that she had plans, she had a budget, she wanted to do it, and then she hit two brick walls.
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  She said the first one's the office of budget budgetary responsibility,
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  who said no,
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  and the the next one was the, the governors of the Bank of England who also basically said no.
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  And I like a broken record for Donkey's years, I've basically been you know, my view currently with regards to so called democracy is that it's irrelevant
• 27:02
  having a prime minister because they're not in charge. The financial
• 27:07
  industry,
• 27:07
  the cartel is in charge, has been for a long time,
• 27:11
  and she basically said that. She couldn't do anything. So there is no point. I mean, people, of course, it's just like this kind of runaround that you've been given in terms of actors coming forward and promising this, that, and the other. That's really all that so called prime ministers can do. They're, they're quite happy to do it because they're, you know, they're having their fancy tickled this way and that, I suppose, by all sorts of things. But there's no point electing them because there's somebody else in charge, and, you know, the current incumbent is doing his master's bidding really well. He's pretending to restore the nation while systematically destroying it. That's really what his job is, it seems to me. So
• 27:48
  and your story would, I would say, you know, indirectly back up that sort of an observation. There's nothing profoundly deep or insightful about what I've said, but it's still not known by most people who keep on participating in the voting scam.
• 28:02
  Unknown: Well, the
• 28:04
  politicians
• 28:04
  are just placeholders,
• 28:06
  they're all actors on a stake really.
• 28:09
  I've got first knowledge of it. They're here today, gone tomorrow.
• 28:14
  Get enriched by the journey,
• 28:17
  appear to be looking after the public's interests, but it's completely opposite. They're only looking after their own interests.
• 28:25
  Everything's inverted at the top,
• 28:28
  you know, the regulators don't regulate anything,
• 28:32
  it's the banks that control
• 28:34
  the
• 28:35
  money system, but it's a lot deeper than that. And you know that document that I shared with you that you've had a go at reading,
• 28:42
  That's really
• 28:43
  how the system works and I didn't realize this
• 28:47
  until around about 2015.
• 28:49
  I tried to get justice, I tried to take
• 28:53
  the Bank of Scotland to court, I tried to take the financial regulator to court,
• 28:58
  I got the run around,
• 29:01
  I blew the whistle, I wrote documents, I sent dossiers to
• 29:05
  the Treasury Select Committee thinking that they might look into this much bigger picture because they blanked me.
• 29:13
  I then, you know,
• 29:15
  realized that
• 29:16
  my
• 29:17
  ability to run a financial services company was probably never gonna get
• 29:23
  back on track.
• 29:26
  I applied for seven different licenses, you've got to be licensed to run money and manage money and things like that. They couldn't deny me a license because they never had actually accused me of anything personally
• 29:39
  and I'd never been convicted of anything. My firm had been censured,
• 29:44
  but you know seven license applications run into the long grass
• 29:48
  and I then start making a lot of noise about that because
• 29:52
  you know that was my livelihood, they'd already destroyed my firm,
• 29:56
  my marriage had been destroyed by it as well,
• 30:00
  and you know my professional reputation of being destroyed. So you know things that were dear to me at the time had all been destroyed.
• 30:10
  And then you know
• 30:11
  I decided that I would
• 30:13
  take them on in the courts, which was an eye opener.
• 30:18
  And my angle,
• 30:19
  my
• 30:20
  presentation in the courts,
• 30:22
  which I've soon realized over the next few years was never going to get any traction,
• 30:28
  was really how the money system really works. And I've been deeply reading
• 30:34
  Professor Richard Werner's
• 30:36
  work on what's called ex nihilo
• 30:39
  credit creation, which is how the money system
• 30:42
  works.
• 30:44
  Unknown: I started writing those papers in about you want to tell everybody what that word, what that little latin phrase means ex nihilo?
• 30:51
  What does it mean? There
• 30:54
  Unknown: is no money of substance and a lot of people are
• 30:59
  surprised to hear that.
• 31:02
  The interesting thing about money is very few people ever ask where it comes from,
• 31:07
  including the so called professionals.
• 31:11
  Unknown: Is that right?
• 31:12
  Even
• 31:14
  they don't know. I guess they're so hypnotized by the lure of having so much of this stuff that they never even bother to actually find out what it is that they're doing. So they're sort of like half educated engineers that are gonna cock it up all the time when push comes to shove, guess. I mean, that's always been my view of them. Yeah. They literally don't teach it, Paul. I mean, it's quite extraordinary. I did seven years of study.
• 31:35
  Unknown: There I am advising
• 31:37
  people in my early career on their wealth and then on managing funds.
• 31:42
  I've
• 31:43
  never actually myself asked the question
• 31:45
  where does the money come from? You know, you hear
• 31:49
  debt, you know, you hear the world debt is
• 31:52
  $400,000,000,000
• 31:54
  and you know it wasn't until around
• 31:57
  twenty fourteen-twenty
• 31:59
  fifteen
• 32:00
  that I started looking into, well if there's $400,000,000,000,000
• 32:06
  of world debt,
• 32:08
  who's it open to?
• 32:10
  And it's a very interesting question.
• 32:12
  Unknown: It's a great question. It's a really good question.
• 32:15
  Unknown: Yeah, I mean it owed to the Chinese? Is it owed to the Rockefellers? Is owed
• 32:22
  to the Russians? Who
• 32:24
  the fuck is it owed to?
• 32:26
  And the answer to the question is it's owed back to the people
• 32:31
  because it's people
• 32:33
  that actually
• 32:35
  transfer their energy,
• 32:38
  their credit
• 32:39
  into the system
• 32:40
  and the banks use it.
• 32:43
  They basically use
• 32:45
  human
• 32:46
  energy and that's what's backing
• 32:48
  what many people would call money.
• 32:51
  It's not really money, it's currency.
• 32:54
  There is no substance to it, there's nothing really backing it.
• 32:58
  There used to be, if you go all the way back into monetary history.
• 33:04
  Unknown: I'm one of those nerds that has done that, Ian. I have gone back into monetary history.
• 33:09
  Unknown: Yeah, well, as you all know
• 33:11
  there used to be a system of backing
• 33:14
  money, there was substance, there was a gold reserve.
• 33:18
  If wanted
• 33:20
  to expand the money supply,
• 33:22
  you had to have the gold in reserve.
• 33:25
  Of course the bloodline banking families
• 33:28
  didn't want to be constrained by that so they ended up with
• 33:32
  the system that we've got now. There's no
• 33:35
  substance to money.
• 33:38
  It's a debt based system,
• 33:41
  it gets a lot more interesting and
• 33:43
  this is what I've put in my treatise that you were reading,
• 33:48
  how it really works. I've
• 33:50
  spent
• 33:52
  pretty much since 2015
• 33:54
  unpacking
• 33:56
  it, studying it,
• 33:58
  arguably and I have done quite a bit of research on
• 34:02
  you know who else out there has figured this system out and there's very
• 34:06
  few people in the world, I'd say, that have completely figured out
• 34:10
  to the depths and extent of what I figured out.
• 34:13
  Actually you can use it practically as well, it's not just
• 34:17
  an academic
• 34:18
  Unknown: exercise. There is a No. That was the thing that hit me about your document,
• 34:22
  actually, was that you were actually providing
• 34:24
  mean, I thought, who's this aimed at? And I thought it must be either, you know, existing businesses, corporations, wealthy individuals, or whatever. That was what's coming up in my mind. I thought this is not necessarily targeted at me even though I was interested very much, but you were explaining the mechanics
• 34:38
  of of their mechanics and how to set up sort of counter mechanics to actually put them on the spot. Of course, something that they're not particularly keen on. And I think I mean, you mentioned doctor Richard Werner.
• 34:50
  You may have seen and when and you were also talking about them not knowing
• 34:55
  the actual mechanics of their own system. There was a wonderful interview he did. I mean, I've got a brief clip of it somewhere
• 35:00
  for about it was only about forty minutes long, and he sat down in some nice office somewhere in the city, I think, with the interview of the podcast.
• 35:07
  And opposite him, there's a nice chat from the city. I'm not gonna have a go. I mean, he was a good decent guy. But they start going through the money creation process.
• 35:15
  Right? And the guy the guy who's the seasoned city professional,
• 35:20
  literally,
• 35:21
  I mean, he doesn't sort of jump out of his seat, but you can see that he doesn't know
• 35:26
  anything that Werner's talking about. Now I did. I do understand that.
• 35:30
  And,
• 35:31
  you know, because you can look at certain documents. Most of the documents that have explained it even in the past
• 35:36
  that they have been up until the arrival of the Internet. Well, they weren't possible to get because nobody knew that documents like that even existed. It was just a given, and this guy I don't know if you've seen the clip. The guy on the other side of the table
• 35:50
  is basically going sort of, is it really like that? And he's sort of like metaphorical
• 35:54
  pennies are dropping in his head, and he said, They just create out of thin air. You in that document I was reading you were talking about the let's call it this the power of the signature of the biological human being. You talked about that didn't you?
• 36:09
  Unknown: Yeah very much so and you know when you know how the system is wired up which
• 36:15
  you know I've
• 36:18
  written about it in numerous research
• 36:20
  papers,
• 36:21
  I talk about it, I do a weekly webinar
• 36:25
  on Saturday and I talk about it a lot and unpack it in different aspects of it. Basically you've got the
• 36:32
  real substance of the living
• 36:35
  men and women, the living soul,
• 36:37
  and then you've got this artificial system
• 36:41
  which is where the birth certificate construct,
• 36:44
  I
• 36:46
  explain it as a game of Monopoly.
• 36:49
  And when you look into Monopoly,
• 36:52
  the actual game itself was launched
• 36:54
  a bit of a piss take really because
• 36:57
  it's actually what everybody's playing but they don't realize it. They think the game is real
• 37:02
  but it is actually just a game.
• 37:05
  The player,
• 37:06
  which is the living man or woman, is moving a player piece around the board,
• 37:12
  the Monopoly board of commerce,
• 37:14
  and that player piece is the birth certificate construct which is not of course the
• 37:21
  living, breathing
• 37:22
  man or woman, it's
• 37:25
  like a company.
• 37:26
  So if you think of it like you've formed a company and you're going to be using
• 37:32
  your company to
• 37:33
  operate in commerce,
• 37:35
  that's what the birth certificate construct is.
• 37:38
  Its purpose is actually a banker
• 37:41
  because
• 37:43
  the
• 37:46
  wants you to use the birth certificate construct
• 37:49
  to issue securities
• 37:51
  and
• 37:52
  hopefully you won't lose too many people in the audience, but basically the birth certificate construct is a banking entity.
• 38:00
  It doesn't belong to the living man or woman, it's registered to the state
• 38:04
  and the state is operating in a permanent bankruptcy
• 38:08
  and wants the birth certificate construct to issue
• 38:12
  more debt, which is what it does all the time. Bank payments, mortgages, loans, credit cards
• 38:18
  are all examples of where a signature
• 38:22
  actually creates
• 38:24
  a debt.
• 38:26
  So what happens is if you and I've explained this and I think it's pretty good way of explaining
• 38:32
  it if you were at a dinner table
• 38:35
  with a load of bankers and you asked them
• 38:38
  Unknown: heaven forbid!
• 38:43
  I'm not That's very thought. Oh dear. I feel very uncomfortable, Ian, but carry on. I've got the idea. So I'm at a dinner party and there's a lot of bankers there and I'm being very well behaved, which is a bit odd for me to think about. But yes. Okay.
• 38:54
  Unknown: So let's suppose that you were at this dinner table and you were going around and asking what do you guys do?' they were all from the same bank.
• 39:03
  And you said to them well that's interesting,
• 39:06
  I'm just about to get a mortgage. Can you tell me how it works?
• 39:11
  Where do you get the money from to lend out on mortgages? And the bankers, unless they're very very senior and they probably
• 39:19
  are unlikely to be in that
• 39:22
  level, they would say to you, it's quite easy. What we do is we take in deposits
• 39:26
  from our customers and we lend them out.'
• 39:29
  yes, that one. The generally accepted
• 39:32
  explanation of banking people think that the banks are intermediaries
• 39:37
  and they take savings
• 39:40
  from wealthy people who've got spare capital
• 39:43
  and then they lend it out and they charge interest
• 39:46
  because the bank
• 39:48
  appears to be taking a risk if they lose the
• 39:51
  loan, if the loan doesn't get paid off, they have to still pay the savings back.
• 39:55
  That's the generally accepted
• 39:58
  understanding of how banking works.
• 40:02
  The bankers actually wouldn't be wrong when they say they take in deposits.
• 40:06
  But what they don't tell you, because they probably don't know, is that the deposits that they take in are energies,
• 40:13
  human energy.
• 40:15
  It's the signature of the living man or woman through the birth certificate construct
• 40:21
  that signs up for a
• 40:23
  deposit
• 40:24
  of energy and that could either be
• 40:27
  making a bank payment
• 40:29
  or it could be signing up for a loan, credit card or mortgage. So what's actually happening is that a signature
• 40:36
  event occurs,
• 40:38
  the banker, which is the
• 40:40
  birth certificate
• 40:41
  construct
• 40:43
  and you can confirm this by looking at the Bills of Exchange Act of 1882,
• 40:47
  actually says a person
• 40:49
  is a banker,
• 40:51
  but a person is this birth certificate construct.
• 40:54
  In
• 40:55
  the freedom communities they call it the straw man.
• 40:58
  It's an artificial construct.
• 41:00
  Actually it's a decedent estate because it's
• 41:05
  based upon the registration of the placenta,
• 41:08
  which obviously dies.
• 41:10
  There's a DNA linkage between the living
• 41:13
  baby and the dead placenta.
• 41:16
  When the baby comes of age, 18, 21,
• 41:20
  then what happens is the
• 41:22
  agency
• 41:23
  between
• 41:24
  the living soul, living man woman and the birth certificate construct kicks in.
• 41:30
  And the decedent estate is being operated as a banking entity,
• 41:34
  but it's also, and this is where a lot of the problems that people are having stem from it's also being operated
• 41:41
  as a decedent estate and the living soul
• 41:45
  becomes
• 41:46
  or occupies the office
• 41:48
  of the it's called the executor de som tort,
• 41:53
  which is another great latin
• 41:54
  Unknown: phrase. Thanks for that, that's great, I'll try and remember that.
• 41:58
  Unknown: So
• 42:01
  the living soul, which of course isn't the birth certificate construct but uses its name,
• 42:06
  holds itself out as if it were the birth certificate construct. You know, what's your name, you get called in by the police, what's your name,
• 42:14
  back at school, they call the register, they want to identify
• 42:19
  as the birth certificate construct,
• 42:22
  but of course that isn't you.
• 42:26
  You're the living soul, this birth certificate construct is
• 42:30
  registered,
• 42:32
  it's actually a trust or an
• 42:34
  estate really because a trust and an estate is pretty much the same thing.
• 42:39
  And the
• 42:40
  living soul occupies the office.
• 42:43
  Now a lot of people won't realize this but
• 42:46
  titles are like offices so the prime minister
• 42:49
  is the
• 42:51
  actual living soul of the prime minister,
• 42:54
  he or she is occupying the office of prime minister,
• 42:58
  the office of the president, the office of the doctor, the office of the professor, the office of the teacher,
• 43:05
  the office of the man, the mister, the missus.
• 43:08
  These are all artificial
• 43:10
  constructs
• 43:12
  where the living soul is operating
• 43:14
  and occupying the office.
• 43:17
  So going back to the banker,
• 43:21
  birth certificate construct has the ability
• 43:24
  to issue
• 43:26
  promises to pay in the future.
• 43:28
  So what happens is when you go and get a mortgage,
• 43:31
  you sign up for a mortgage, let's say it's a million pound mortgage,
• 43:36
  and you sign on the dotted line and the bankers will take that signature and
• 43:41
  they will take that in on their balance sheet as a deposit.
• 43:48
  Yes.
• 43:49
  They will then take it on their balance sheet as if it's theirs.
• 43:53
  Unknown: Oh I want to be a banker Ian, it sounds great!
• 43:56
  Unknown: Yeah, I mean it's a great game isn't it? Yeah, it's very good.
• 44:00
  They don't give out the banking licenses
• 44:04
  very
• 44:05
  easily. You have to be one of the cabal to get a banking license.
• 44:08
  So they take in the asset and then on the other side of their balance sheet, because it's a double entry
• 44:14
  bookkeeping system, they create the debt.
• 44:17
  So you deposit a million, which is a signature, a promise to pay in the future,
• 44:22
  you're not actually
• 44:23
  transferring anything other than your energy.
• 44:26
  The bankers then say 'hey thanks very much for that'. They create
• 44:30
  a debt equal to the deposit on the other side of their balance sheet.
• 44:34
  That is ex nelio credit creation.
• 44:38
  That is where the world debt comes from.
• 44:41
  97%
• 44:42
  of world debt is created like that through the banks. This is what Professor Richard Werner
• 44:49
  wrote about, the Bank of England wrote about it, there's a paper called Money in the Modern Economy, Bank of England paper that only people like me will probably read it. The Federal Reserve in modern money mechanics writes about it.
• 45:04
  You think a lot of professionals would know this but they just simply don't teach it in any course.
• 45:12
  Unknown: Think
• 45:13
  is it the case? I think, know, I don't know how long an economics degree is, five or seven years or whatever it is, but I know,
• 45:20
  or at least the last time I looked,
• 45:22
  that the amount of time they spend looking on central banking is about two days out of that.
• 45:27
  In other words, they become masters of economics but have no understanding at all about the currency system that's being used to manage it, where it comes from, or anything like that. And it's a bit like isn't that like being an engineer and not understanding the basic principles of the internal combustion engine or the electric engine these days. I mean, it's just, well, it goes. It costs this. This is what it does. I mean,
• 45:49
  it's, you know, I mean, I you you said something as when when you were just what you just said then was,
• 45:55
  these are documents that only people like you or you and and a small handful read. Hasn't that always been the problem? I mean,
• 46:02
  one of the issues with all of their documentation is that it is intentionally
• 46:06
  constructed using words that leave the layman dead in the head. Yeah. By design, obviously, the thing is so labyrinthine and incredibly tortuously complex that you go, I can't make head nor tail of it, and they go, great. You weren't supposed to.
• 46:21
  And also, if you're gonna go and talk to anybody about it, you gotta pay some expert to communicate in their language. I mean, just on that simple principle alone, you go, this stinks. This is if the layman can't get it, what use of it is? That's kind of, you know, I'm I'm coming with a peasant's philosophy here
• 46:38
  because I think I mean, I'm familiar with much of what you're talking about. You're expressing it a different way. I don't know all these mechanics that were in the document at all. They were new to me. But
• 46:49
  in terms of signatures,
• 46:50
  I I used to have a conversation with my dad.
• 46:53
  I sort of bumped into all this in the mid nineties. Some guy taught me about really basic stuff about banking. I think I was telling you, I sort of walked out of this world at that point. This is thirty years ago. And I went, this is a joke. The whole thing is a complete sick joke. I'm not playing anymore and I haven't played since then properly.
• 47:08
  But I used to talk to my dad because my dad bought the house, and it cost £2,000
• 47:12
  in 1962
• 47:14
  when he bought this house. And the conversation was, dad, when they gave you $2, where did it come from? And he said, well, he said, I suppose it must have come from all the deposits led by all the people that bank there. He said, that's what we were always told. I said, I don't blame you for thinking that. You can't blame people at all for thinking that because that's what they've been taught. But of course, I then said, it doesn't work like that at all. This stuff is literally created out of thin air. What what you're explaining is the backing, all of the sort of intermediary steps,
• 47:41
  and effectively
• 47:43
  I I don't even wanna call it money because it isn't really money. It's currency that we use, but but the monetization of your signature
• 47:50
  is is being conducted by them. They act as an intermediary
• 47:54
  when really no intermediary is actually needed.
• 47:57
  You just need to do it direct, don't you? But they say, well, you can't do that without us, and then it's a bit like a butler that's running a house. He takes over the entire house and nobody knows how he's got hold of the whole thing.
• 48:08
  Something similar to that. That's how I've always
• 48:10
  Unknown: Yeah. The bankers have got a unique position on the Monopoly board. They're nominees.
• 48:15
  You know? Yeah. They're trustees,
• 48:18
  fiduciaries for the living
• 48:20
  soul,
• 48:22
  men and women. Because the men and women are creditors
• 48:24
  to this whole system which is operating in a permanent
• 48:28
  state of bankruptcy.
• 48:31
  This is where it's, you know, when you really get into this level
• 48:36
  of comprehension
• 48:38
  of what's going on,
• 48:39
  if there's no money and it's all debt,
• 48:42
  that means
• 48:43
  that there has to be creditors and debtors.
• 48:46
  You
• 48:46
  have to have a balance.
• 48:48
  So if
• 48:50
  the whole world system is debt
• 48:52
  and if there's, you know, circa 400,000,000,000,000
• 48:55
  of debt,
• 48:56
  what's on the other side of that balance sheet? If you think of it as one great big
• 49:01
  balance sheet with assets on one side and debt on the other side or liabilities on the other side,
• 49:08
  the other side of this debt is the energy of the people which has been abandoned
• 49:13
  and the banks are operating as nominees
• 49:16
  for the living souls
• 49:19
  and they get to use Well,
• 49:21
  Unknown: the sick yes. Mean they say we've abandoned it but we're not even aware of that principle. We're unconscious
• 49:28
  of their own principles. You've abandoned this. I didn't even know it was mine.
• 49:33
  Of course, you know, they don't teach banking to schoolchildren.
• 49:36
  I think they could, you know, and I do think that this sort of body of knowledge needs to be pared down.
• 49:42
  I've got a book on my shelf here in written by Hilar Belloc about a 100 ago. It's called economics for Helen,
• 49:48
  and,
• 49:49
  it's about banking practices at the time, and so it's it's outdated in terms of the mechanics that he's talking about. The principle's really good. And in the forward, he said, who you know, the gist of it is, who's Helen? He said, Helen is an English girl, 14 years of age of average intelligence, and she can understand this book. And I've often thought that this really is the challenge is to take these what appear to be well, they are complex and highbrow concepts about the movement of finance
• 50:14
  and be able to pitch it to the guy in the pub. I mean this quite seriously. So he goes bloody hell. What do I do about it? It's that sort of people can't get motivated about a thing that they're literally unconscious of
• 50:26
  in most cases. Mean that's sort of my I take on
• 50:30
  Unknown: think you know when I was managing people's money and managing their wealth,
• 50:35
  most people are afraid
• 50:37
  of the money system. They don't understand it, they don't want to look into it, They just want to employ a so called expert to manage their affairs and
• 50:45
  that's based on the
• 50:47
  concept of it being too complicated.
• 50:50
  We'll just let the professionals deal with it. Bit like
• 50:53
  people that go to the doctor, oh we'll just let the doctor sort this out, we won't look into it ourselves.
• 50:58
  Well, I think things are changing.
• 51:02
  I think more people are looking into how the money system works.
• 51:06
  My
• 51:07
  research papers, webinars, think are helping a lot of people to get their head around it, but it does take a while.
• 51:14
  We've all been programmed,
• 51:16
  you know, we've
• 51:17
  been programmed to believe things and that cognitive
• 51:20
  dissidence that
• 51:21
  most of us have got in one area or another,
• 51:25
  it takes a while to shift that.
• 51:27
  Unknown: It bloody well does, it does. It's not easy and it's not quick, takes quite a bit of energy to do that. You've got to keep revisiting the same information
• 51:36
  Unknown: over and over again before it sinks in. Because you've got to remove the old paradigm,
• 51:41
  old belief,
• 51:42
  and bring in the new. And that's what I do. Many people come on my webinars time and time again.
• 51:49
  And it takes them, you know, it can take
• 51:52
  many many
• 51:54
  months to
• 51:57
  break free of the old paradigm belief system they've got.
• 52:01
  But actually I
• 52:02
  could make it really simple.
• 52:04
  There's no money of substance, it's all based on
• 52:09
  a bankrupt system. So the whole world is a bankrupt trust.
• 52:14
  And it's not just a theory, I've proved it in my research papers,
• 52:18
  House Joint Resolution
• 52:20
  192,
• 52:21
  1933,
• 52:22
  June 5,
• 52:23
  one of the most
• 52:25
  significant days in monetary history.
• 52:28
  The United States goes into a permanent
• 52:31
  reorganization
• 52:32
  which
• 52:36
  phrase that basically means bankruptcy.
• 52:39
  The original banking families, the bloodline banking families and I've done quite a bit of research into
• 52:46
  Unknown: where the bloodlines come from, but that's probably something I'll talk about on my show maybe. No, we must I'd be really interested in that. The guy that taught me a lot, he used to talk about the families, this is in the nineties,
• 52:58
  and I said what are you talking about? He said no, there are families involved because this guy that I worked with or I didn't really work with him, he was involved in some really weird part of bond buying,
• 53:09
  buying and selling government debt,
• 53:11
  and
• 53:13
  it was a very it was almost like a James Bond type life they had. I'm serious. It was really very, very it was very odd. I just come out of marketing.
• 53:21
  I meet this guy. He starts telling me things after two years. My brain was completely rewired, and I went, you know, forget this for a game of soldiers. I'm not playing anymore.
• 53:29
  And he was he was telling me about disc pre discount rates on on t bonds and stuff that no one knows about, and that there's a a massive sort of slush fund floating around, and you can get in and play and do all this kind of stuff. And
• 53:43
  he was determined to destroy the establishment of England, and and I had to agree with him. I thought it was worth destroying, not England itself,
• 53:51
  but that
• 53:52
  viper that's wrapped itself around our entrails and has created all this confusion.
• 53:57
  But we're coming towards the end of the hour, Ian, and I think
• 54:02
  it's worth mentioning to everybody that you're about to start
• 54:05
  a weekly show a week tomorrow,
• 54:08
  I believe, a week on Friday, midday UK time covering this and other attendant topics including the families I hope. I'm quite looking forward to that. Yeah, we're going to be looking at the monetary system
• 54:21
  Unknown: not just from an academic point of view but actually how you can redirect taxes because the whole system is based on a bankrupt trust
• 54:30
  where the creditors
• 54:32
  are
• 54:33
  entitled
• 54:34
  to tax revenue.
• 54:36
  So the
• 54:38
  banks actually are debtors
• 54:40
  and they pay taxes to the United States Treasury.
• 54:43
  They pay between 50,000,000,000 and 100,000,000,000
• 54:46
  a year of taxes
• 54:47
  and the good news for the listeners,
• 54:50
  and I'll be explaining this in more detail on the show, is those taxes
• 54:55
  actually belong back to the people.
• 54:57
  Because the banks are operating as nominees,
• 55:00
  they're fiduciaries,
• 55:02
  this abandoned credit, this signature credit energy that we've put on to the monopoly board,
• 55:08
  generates tax revenue for the United States Treasury.
• 55:12
  It's a one world system.
• 55:14
  That tax revenue
• 55:16
  that is going into the United States Treasury can be redirected back to the people
• 55:22
  and that's what my document that you've
• 55:25
  been reading is talking all about, my treatise. How
• 55:28
  does that how do you redirect the taxes and we're talking
• 55:33
  about,
• 55:34
  most people would be able to redirect about $2,000,000
• 55:37
  a year of taxes back to themselves
• 55:41
  perfectly legally,
• 55:43
  completely consistent with how the system is built. It's all in my document, I'll be breaking it down in a lot more, you know, time I'm sure the incumbents
• 55:52
  Unknown: of course will be very happy to cooperate in that process, won't they?
• 55:57
  Unknown: Well it's exactly how the system is being built and
• 56:01
  I would say there's a tiny percentage of the world population.
• 56:06
  Some of the elites are doing exactly what I've just described. They're redirecting
• 56:11
  the taxes back to
• 56:13
  not
• 56:14
  the burst of the construct because you can never redirect taxes back there,
• 56:18
  but there is a way and I'll
• 56:21
  be explaining this there's a way of operating
• 56:24
  a
• 56:25
  setting up a structure that plays on the monopoly board as a nominee that can receive these tax redirections
• 56:33
  and that's
• 56:34
  what,
• 56:36
  you know, hundreds thousands of our members are doing and I should be breaking down
• 56:42
  the agency between the living soul and
• 56:46
  birth certificate construct and all the problems that causes.
• 56:50
  I'll be talking about a lot of ideologies
• 56:52
  that a lot of people in
• 56:55
  freedom communities are believing in and how dangerous they can be. I'll be talking about the art of legal warfare.
• 57:03
  I'll be talking about how to discharge mortgages
• 57:06
  using tax redirection,
• 57:09
  which a lot of people are very interested in.
• 57:12
  I'll be talking about
• 57:14
  all sorts of subjects. I
• 57:16
  Unknown: quite like that Iain, but it's a bit late for me. Although I had a phenomenally good letter today from my bank.
• 57:23
  It said
• 57:24
  your mortgage is paid today.
• 57:26
  It's obviously appropriate that I have you on the show. Seriously. Twenty five I went, oh, I thought I had one more month to pay. I thought I had to pay at the end of of the of June,
• 57:37
  And they said, you paid it, and we actually overcharged you £79
• 57:41
  and 7 p. We sent it back to you. I went, great. I mean, look, I've I've had all this knowledge in my head whilst we had a mortgage. We didn't have any other option at the time. Right? So maybe we did, but I didn't know what it was. So you have to deal with whatever tools you've got available at the time. But I've been skipping around all day going, holy moly.
• 58:01
  I have a I don't have this. I'm I'm seriously,
• 58:05
  I don't I'm not rolling in money or anything. It's not of any real interest in me to me. I know that might sound bizarre. It's not. I'm really interested in this system being wiped out. That's what I want. Know, I'm not bothered about the other stuff
• 58:18
  because one of the things I've mentioned is, wouldn't it be fun? How interesting would it be to live in your village knowing that everybody in it was not at the beck and call of this hellish system
• 58:29
  and to provide a solution to that? And I think that's obviously the path that you're going. I'm going to be listening and tuning in regularly Ian.
• 58:36
  Unknown: That's great.
• 58:38
  Everybody in the world can do this because there's a limitation of basically tax
• 58:43
  rate direction
• 58:44
  up a ceiling of about a 100,000,000,000 a year, that's dollars.
• 58:49
  So not everybody in the world can do this but
• 58:52
  in my estimation there's several million that can do this perfectly lawfully
• 58:57
  without breaking the system. It doesn't make any difference
• 59:00
  to the banks, that's one of the things that
• 59:03
  a lot of people have said to me along the way, well surely the banks are gonna step in and stop you from doing this. Well it actually makes no difference to the banks whatsoever.
• 59:12
  They've already paid the taxes
• 59:14
  and all we're doing is redirecting them and other people said surely the United States Treasury will go bankrupt won't they? They'll stop you doing this. Well, doesn't make any difference to them either because as Professor Richard Werner
• 59:28
  confirms in his papers,
• 59:30
  everything is ex nilio credit. There is no such thing as you know the governments need tax revenue to finance things. They just print it, they just the currency.
• 59:41
  Unknown: I know. I know. I know they do. I mean, aren't
• 59:46
  they also they're really doing the bidding of their masters, aren't they? They're the front men, the actors out front.
• 59:52
  And then they make these impassioned dramatic speeches about the economy all the time. And I just I've been yawning at this for thirty years. I'm just going, stop talking crap. But the thing is that they don't even know that they're talking crap. That's how bad it is. They don't know that they don't know that it's so deadly serious to them, but it's because none of them are engineers.
• 1:00:09
  You know, not one. I'd
• 1:00:11
  Unknown: love to debate, you know, economists,
• 1:00:13
  and I'd even love to debate the so called chancellor of the Jacko who claims that, you know,
• 1:00:21
  Unknown: Well, who knows, Ian? We might be able to set that up here on Food for Thought Radio. You never know. These are very early days for this sort of space, so that would be or even on your platform. So I'm sure
• 1:00:32
  there's gonna be lots of synergies. Ian, it's been fantastic having you on. We're just at the end of the first hour. I'm going to a song and a a couple of other things.
• 1:00:39
  But everybody's gonna be able to catch you a week tomorrow,
• 1:00:42
  midday UK time, twelve till two. It's a two hour gig that you're doing, isn't it, every Fridays. Is that right? I'll be on with Andy.
• 1:00:48
  Unknown: So Andy, he
• 1:00:50
  regularly introduced me. If you want to get any of my content you can see it on ROS Media.
• 1:00:56
  We have our own media platform.
• 1:00:58
  We do a couple of interviews a week. So Andy's very good at asking me questions that he knows the audience are thinking, but you know,
• 1:01:07
  brings me down to earth
• 1:01:09
  Unknown: with the questions he asked me. Good, I like the sound of Andy a lot Ian, he's a good guy. I'm due to speak to him on Monday, actually, to sort a few technicals out,
• 1:01:18
  which is rich coming from me given the start of today, but never never mind. Ian, it's been fantastic having you on. I'm really looking forward to your show, and I'm looking forward to pestering you with lots of other private questions in between and this, that, and the other. It's just been really good.
• 1:01:32
  Just to let you know, football, although you mentioned football early on and we think it's very silly, the World Cup started an hour ago, and I don't know who's winning, but Mexico are playing South Africa for everybody that cares, which on this show is no one. Okay? But I just thought I'd give it a tacit nod.
• 1:01:48
  So Ian, look, have a fantastic week.
• 1:01:50
  I'll be tuning in next Friday. And just to let everybody know, Ian's here every Friday on Food For Thought Radio starting a week tomorrow,
• 1:01:57
  twelve noon till 2PM UK time. So that's a a 07:00 to 9AM listen for East
• 1:02:04
  Eastern Time Zone people in The States because we get US listeners in on this.
• 1:02:08
  So, Ian, look, thanks very much for dropping by, and, I look forward to another one at some point in the future. It'd be brilliant. Thanks, Paul.
• 1:02:15
  Thank you.
• 1:02:17
  Ian Clifford, everybody. Yeah. Brilliant. Thank you, Ian. That's, that's Ian Clifford,
• 1:02:22
  and
• 1:02:23
  you'll be all very pleased to know that I've sorted out my technicals.
• 1:02:27
  This is what comes from doing too many things and leaving switches open and all that kind of stuff. You don't wanna know about this stuff, but you do get to hear me bend your ear about it every bloody week, don't you? Anyway, the other day, I was floating around on Tinternet, and I came across a song. And I can play this, and you will know this song,
• 1:02:43
  because it's in the public domain, and this is a street performance. Now I think they played this in Trafalgar Square.
• 1:02:51
  Anyway, you'll all know the song. We're gonna play this about four minutes long, and then afterwards, Eric Von Essex, who's lurking around in the back end of the studio, will be joining us for hour two. See you after this. Are you ready? Yeah.
• 1:07:06
  Oh,
• 1:07:07
  it's like Formula One all over again, isn't it? It's amazing what you can do in a in a a street in Trafalgar Square with a few amplifiers and get a sound like that. It's quite impressive. Eric, hello. Good evening. Welcome to the show. How are you doing, sir? Yeah. Mustn't grumble. I tell you something. It's really cold today.
• 1:07:25
  Unknown: For June, I couldn't get over it. And it got cold about lunchtime
• 1:07:29
  because I went up to get my eggs.
• 1:07:31
  Yes. And then I'm walking up the road, I was shivering.
• 1:07:35
  I I couldn't believe it that we're middle almost middle of June, and it's this cold.
• 1:07:40
  Because I'm an old I'm old enough to remember when we had frost on the June 1.
• 1:07:45
  Do you remember that?
• 1:07:48
  Unknown: I bet here it is. It's 09:00, and you've been busting a gut to talk about the weather for over an hour. That's imagine. It's it's tricky, isn't it? May I ask
• 1:07:58
  well, change the subject again. Was that last group was it Fleetwood Mac? Because I think they did that number, didn't they? Fleetwood Mac? Yes. It's a Fleetwood Mac song, but it's actually played by a an ensemble band in Trafalgar Square and recorded relatively recently, I think.
• 1:08:15
  They're called
• 1:08:16
  yeah. Gio, g I o, is the first word, and Dara. Now that might be an individual who's in the band, d a r a, Gio Dara.
• 1:08:24
  I thought the vocals were pretty pretty damn good, really, and they just stood around in Trafalgar Square. That's why you hear a few crowd noises, and I thought, that's actually good. And everybody likes to hear something every now and again that they already know. You know? And it also reminds me of Murray Walker
• 1:08:41
  and Formula One. And I because I'm a satyr. You know? And I like to be reminded of that.
• 1:08:46
  Unknown: It's also exciting, but one I like of Freakwood Mac, and I wonder if this group does it, is Tusk.
• 1:08:53
  Do remember Tusk, which is the weirdest record ever? Oh,
• 1:08:56
  Unknown: yeah. I remember. Yeah. Everybody bought that. Yeah. Remember. So you used some very, very strange things on that. Mhmm. Yeah. But that's when albums were interesting, weren't they? I think. Rumors. What an old fart.
• 1:09:07
  But they were. Yeah. I didn't like rumors. I'm not I wasn't really a Fleetwood Mac guy, to be quite honest. I liked them when they were with Peter Green playing guitar stuff in the sixties, but that's because I'm a really old fart. I'm a blues guy, really. But,
• 1:09:20
  obviously, the songwriting skills are considerable, and I think didn't it not become sort of like the soundtrack to a generation of its time? And good riddance says everybody else, but it did. It did become that.
• 1:09:33
  Life favors though. It was nineteen eighties. Genesis.
• 1:09:38
  Unknown: Yes. Well Yeah. Genesis. My favorite was Genesis and a group that nobody's ever heard of. Focus. They were a Dutch group,
• 1:09:45
  and they they're still around.
• 1:09:48
  Unknown: I know eating cheese and smoking dope
• 1:09:51
  and and all that kind of stuff. You break it up.
• 1:09:54
  Unknown: Focus. House of the king.
• 1:09:57
  Hocus pocus. Yeah.
• 1:10:00
  Unknown: You know, you watch oh you don't get it do you? Do you see Clarkson's Farm? Do you ever get that? No no I haven't seen Clarkson's Farm. You see your life is less for it. It's the best thing that's been on the television
• 1:10:13
  or on on a streaming channel over the past few years. They've just released a new series,
• 1:10:17
  and I think we've I don't know how many episodes they're in. About six. They sort of release them all in one go, blump, and you can sort of chew through them as you want. I I ration them because they're they're exhilarating in a way. It's about a very normal sort of approach to dealing with things, but through Clarkson's, you know, rather,
• 1:10:36
  gruff and rather whimsical and funny lens, which I do like. Anyway,
• 1:10:40
  he
• 1:10:42
  went to Holland in the latest one. I think it might be the third one in the series. If anybody out there has seen it, they might know what I'm referring to. He he they trucked along to a farming show in England with all the machinery, and you can see all the blokes there are looking at all these machines going, oh.
• 1:11:01
  Right? Look at the size of that tractor. I mean, one was absolutely stupidly big. I'm serious. Was bigger than the one that was.
• 1:11:09
  Lucky. Should be mine.
• 1:11:10
  Yeah. It was it was definitely a boys and their toys type of gathering, but so what? Everybody was having a blast. And,
• 1:11:17
  Clarkson's wandering around absolutely bemused and dazed by it all because he knows cars. Right? But this is this is other stuff, another world. And, he was what he was talking to some guy from Denmark, right, who'd who'd got this onion planting machine.
• 1:11:34
  He was so tech with it. He bought one.
• 1:11:37
  And he goes back He knows she's onions, didn't he? Cool. Blind. Yeah. He went back to the farm manager. His name, I forget. Was great. Really straight guy. He sort of holds it all together.
• 1:11:45
  He said he said, I think we should get one of these. He said, why? He said, because it's great. He said, but we don't grow onions. He basically said, we do now. It was just it was just to get the gear. Anyway, it was just looking at all this high-tech stuff. You know? And it is it's very, very interesting.
• 1:12:04
  I hate that word. I shouldn't use it, but I just did. Sorry. Apologies, everybody.
• 1:12:07
  But it was quite interesting, and oh, I did it again. And so he's he's talking to Caleb, who's his assistant, who's a rather parochial lad. He's very sort of but I don't think he's ever left England. He's in his early twenties ever.
• 1:12:21
  So he said, look, we're gonna have to modernize the farm. I've got he said, I've had a sort of an alarm bell by going to this big machinery show and seeing what's on offer. There's some amazing stuff, right, that they're up to satellite tracking of this, that, and the other, GPS for perfect planting of things. There's something kind of awful about it, and yet you understand that it's almost unavoidable as well. Anyway Yeah. He said, we're gonna go to Holland.
• 1:12:43
  So
• 1:12:44
  the Keller says, okay.
• 1:12:47
  But he's never left England so they had to go through the tunnel and he was he was anxious about he was trying to work out where does all the air get into the tunnel it's very funny actually
• 1:12:56
  and quite understandable.
• 1:12:59
  He said yeah but the the air's up at the top he said the air didn't fall into the tunnel he said oh it was just amusing.
• 1:13:05
  So they go
• 1:13:07
  over to Holland right
• 1:13:09
  they make this farmer whose name I can't recall.
• 1:13:13
  The farm that they went to was stunning you should watch it. I was watching this I was going holy
• 1:13:19
  moly this is amazing it really was.
• 1:13:21
  This guy had inherited the farm from his father
• 1:13:25
  and,
• 1:13:27
  had begun to apply,
• 1:13:29
  scientific and computer techniques to the way that he actually deals with the land. The degree
• 1:13:34
  of
• 1:13:35
  exactness that he'd put into it was kind of mind blowing, and it just what it reminded me is of is that the stuff is right in front of our eyes and yet we're not looking for it and can't see it and this guy had seen a lot of things. Now I'm sure he's not alone because the Dutch are known to be amongst the most productive farmers in the world,
• 1:13:52
  Right? Off the charts effectiveness.
• 1:13:55
  And I guess that must come from a a long standing discipline of having to deal with the dikes. And I don't mean those people. I mean all that water flooding in. Know? They've got a sort of an intrinsic
• 1:14:05
  Well, like dikes there. You know? Yes. Yeah. Because When you go to Ireland, you you do find a lot of dikes. Yes. Yes. I'm terribly sorry for outside England, but we talk like this all the time about things like this. We like to mix our metaphors and get it all confused. Yes. It's part of the rich tradition of gobbledygook. Hello. And yeah. But they've been managing all that, haven't they, for a long time and sticking their fingers in dikes and things like that. And that's please don't go there in your thinking, and and all that kind of stuff. So
• 1:14:31
  he gets over there, and this guy grows potatoes.
• 1:14:35
  Holy crap. The amount of potatoes he gets off the land. Clarkson's gobsmacked.
• 1:14:40
  He goes into this you've got I can't describe it fully as well. I'm just sharing it here with everybody. Maybe some of you have seen it already. This guy's got these tractors that are the most expensive tractors in the world. He's got about six in every shed. He's going, what's going on? And,
• 1:14:57
  the use of drone technology,
• 1:15:00
  of radar technology to assess the vitality of the land.
• 1:15:04
  So what they've done is they've they've got some sort of LIDAR stuff. They put a drone. They've flown over the entire
• 1:15:11
  I said, I don't know how many acres he had, about 20 or something. Right?
• 1:15:15
  And I I was I don't know if Mark's seen it yet, but I'm going, bloody hell, Mark. You need to look at this. I mean, it's a big investment. However,
• 1:15:21
  like, he was going over the land, and it produces one of these big sort of color readouts, you know, showing where the land is wet and where it's got this, that, and the other. And he said the red regions are no good for growing potatoes, but the blue regions are.
• 1:15:34
  So what they do is they come up with a computerized
• 1:15:37
  fertilization
• 1:15:38
  program delivered by drones
• 1:15:41
  that reenergizes
• 1:15:42
  the red
• 1:15:43
  more dead areas.
• 1:15:45
  Yeah.
• 1:15:46
  And they plant in a different way to
• 1:15:48
  the millimeter
• 1:15:50
  all across this land. Right? In other words, it's like custom built yard by yard for what they know is below the surface and what's gonna deal with the vegetables the best.
• 1:16:01
  And he's producing millions of tons of potatoes, which of course is needed in Holland and Belgium because they're always eating fritz, aren't they, with mayonnaise,
• 1:16:09
  the national dish? That's right. They eat nothing but french fries Yes. Which come from Belgians. And also come from And the Belgians dip their dip their chips in mayonnaise,
• 1:16:20
  Unknown: which we never used to do. We used use red sauce, so that's something a bit bit, you know, a bit different in it. Yeah. A bit weird, aren't I I had the I I had a Dutch friend,
• 1:16:30
  Unknown: and who worked with a German colleague.
• 1:16:33
  And when they came over here,
• 1:16:35
  they looked at me and they said, do you put vinegar on your chips? I said, yeah.
• 1:16:39
  Like,
• 1:16:40
  they said, that's just but they go soggy. I'm going, yeah. It's great. That's why we do it.
• 1:16:45
  So
• 1:16:47
  and I went back over there, and you get all these really well manicured sort of cones of chips with mayonnaise on and everything. It's alright, but I wear salt and vinegar, you know. Yeah. So all that good boys, aren't they? I mean, you know, it's Oh, I told them in front of all. They were having none of it. They were yeah. They won't have any of it.
• 1:17:05
  But it was was so good, and then he turned to me and he said by the way he said it's illegal to fly a drone in Holland. So Clarke said look he said so how do you fly them? Said ah I said I cut round it. He turned his farm into an airport.
• 1:17:17
  He's
• 1:17:19
  just so creative. So he implied he got an airport license that allowed him to fly these drones. Now the drone that he had, he showed it doing a sort of weed killing operation as well. He said, we can we fly over once, check out where all the weeds are coming up, and then this thing is programmed to fly over the field and just squirt the pesticide or whatever they need at exactly the point that it's needed at the speed that is going to kill a little tuft of weeds, and it works. And I'm going, holy crap. And Clarkson sort of jaw drops. He goes, this is ridiculous. I mean, it was. The drone that they were flying looked to me to be about four or five feet in diameter. It was a monster thing. Right? But it was just bloody brilliant, and it did this whole field in eight minutes, and Caleb's going, wait. It took me forty five minutes to do it on the tractor or something. And, of course, it would be indiscriminate.
• 1:18:04
  And they use also three times as much,
• 1:18:07
  weed killer or whatever they're having to use as they do in this drone because it's literally
• 1:18:11
  like sniper technique will kill that weed there now in thirty five seconds, and it just does it.
• 1:18:17
  It was it was mind blowing, and his potato yield is off the charts.
• 1:18:21
  Huge. He had this massive where. Said, oh, yeah. We've increased productivity.
• 1:18:26
  What he said was he said, when we first got in on the farm, see how we're going on farming here for Food for Thought Radio but it's a good lead in isn't it? I think
• 1:18:33
  he said
• 1:18:34
  I he said I was bringing bringing potatoes in and I found that one field we were getting 80%
• 1:18:41
  the amount of potatoes out of the same acreage of land as in another part of the field, and this is when he developed all this analysis of soil quality
• 1:18:48
  using all this photographic
• 1:18:49
  systems and everything, and then it's a computerized spraying and planting system
• 1:18:54
  that just completely
• 1:18:57
  beefed up his profits like massive.
• 1:19:00
  So there was that
• 1:19:01
  and then they went to
• 1:19:03
  where was it
• 1:19:05
  was it Nijmegen? I don't know they went to another dutch town I'm gonna say Amsterdam but I don't think it was. They're on the they're on a river anyway, and,
• 1:19:13
  there's a big a massive barge on this river full of cows.
• 1:19:18
  It's a floating
• 1:19:20
  it was a floating cow farm right in the center of the city.
• 1:19:23
  And that farm.
• 1:19:26
  Yeah. Floating. Yeah. And the it was and and it was docked. Right? So they could come off. The cows could come off and go on a bit of land and skip around whenever they wanted to. Right?
• 1:19:36
  The cows just came and
• 1:19:38
  came and went as they went or whatever. And,
• 1:19:41
  they were talking to this guy and his wife who'd built all this thing.
• 1:19:45
  It was it was inspiring in a way. He said,
• 1:19:49
  what did he say? He said, in the world, we throw 30 to 40% of all the food that we make gets thrown away. He said the wastage is just he said it's scandalous,
• 1:19:58
  and it and it is, I suppose. It's just absolutely ridiculous. So we got people starving, but you see, they're not starving because we're throwing food away. They're starving because there's no food system there as such. And,
• 1:20:09
  but the cows, like, here's one of the things he did. Right? This is sort of like, you know, Bailiwick.
• 1:20:15
  All the bakeries in and around that city,
• 1:20:18
  they throw all their bread away they throw a lot of bread away every day.
• 1:20:22
  So he goes and picks it up for nothing, all this bread, goes into a machine, turns into cow feed.
• 1:20:28
  So he gets all his cow feed for nothing from the city because of all this bread.
• 1:20:33
  Then they gather all this grass,
• 1:20:35
  and they picked up all the grass from the football pitches, and the cows love it because it's the best grass grown anywhere. Right? This is perfect grass. It's really tasty and green. They spray it with something to make them green, and it's full of vitamins or something for the cows.
• 1:20:49
  Then they use the cow dung. He had a machine. It's all automated. This machine goes around, sweeps up all the cow,
• 1:20:55
  all the manure from the cows. Right? Puts it in a big, sort of bowl that heat heated the salt water up and desalinated
• 1:21:04
  the water which the cows then drank.
• 1:21:07
  I'm serious. I'm just going
• 1:21:09
  wow.
• 1:21:10
  Yeah, was amazing. It was. I'm
• 1:21:13
  Unknown: sure the clip will crop up. Say that again. Sorry. I'm talking too much. Well, she's Yeah. That's okay. But so so I was gonna say, it's it's used their brains now. I noticed something today. I just walked into the farm, Uwa, to get my eggs.
• 1:21:25
  And by the way, the eggs now, when I walked in there, they're normally brown. They're they're white.
• 1:21:30
  So I said,
• 1:21:32
  have you got an old Sainsbury's? Because, know, if you heard that about Sainsbury's, you're gonna only get to sell white eggs because the chickens that lay white eggs,
• 1:21:40
  give out less c o two apparently. So
• 1:21:45
  they've got a bit bonkers. I'm actually avoiding Sainsbury's. I'm not saying like because sometimes you have to go there, but I'm avoiding them because they're all into this nonsense.
• 1:21:54
  But what I was gonna say, walking to the farm today, there's like a big manor house that sits back from the road of Orson Lane, actually, and they have wedding receptions
• 1:22:03
  there and things like that.
• 1:22:05
  And I noticed
• 1:22:07
  around the sides of it,
• 1:22:09
  the people are actually growing their own
• 1:22:11
  vegetables,
• 1:22:13
  which I've never seen before there.
• 1:22:15
  And I'm noticing more and more people are beginning to grow their own vegetables because they're noticing it's getting a little bit more difficult in the shops.
• 1:22:23
  I know it's just when I went shopping last night,
• 1:22:26
  No
• 1:22:27
  sweet potatoes left.
• 1:22:30
  There wasn't oh, and no side things.
• 1:22:33
  So something going on. We're getting shortages that started to get to creep in. But, anyway, back to these white eggs.
• 1:22:40
  Yes. The woman should know. She said we've had to change our supplier
• 1:22:43
  because the other one went bust. That's sad.
• 1:22:46
  So this couldn't compete so that that we had to go to another supplier. But she said, I'll assure you, these are local.
• 1:22:52
  That, you know, they they only come from a few miles away.
• 1:22:55
  So Mhmm.
• 1:22:57
  You know, farming going bust, do you think everybody wants food?
• 1:23:02
  Unknown: It's it's it's it's weird, isn't it? But something else I was gonna Well, I think I you know, Eric, there's there's probably all sorts of little angles that they're playing in
• 1:23:10
  darkest, deepest
• 1:23:12
  pit central. Right?
• 1:23:14
  Like, we would have really no way of knowing whether there really are shortages or not, would we? I I wouldn't really know. I'm reliant upon the mainstream media if I if I think I might want to know, And that doesn't strike me as being very wise considering the amount of piffle that they communicate anyway in that very serious tone. Trust me. I know what I'm talking about. No. You don't. None of them do. I think
• 1:23:38
  one of the things that I sort of got from watching this little sort of section in the Clarkson thing, and no doubt someone's gonna clip it and stick it up on YouTube, it'll it'll start to pop up as clips,
• 1:23:47
  is you just saw that when people stop for a bit, take a few breaths, and start to think about what can be done,
• 1:23:55
  it is literally sky's the limit. There's no the the is is the continual interference
• 1:24:00
  with creative
• 1:24:01
  people
• 1:24:02
  that stops us. They don't want us to solve our own problems because then it becomes obvious to us that we don't need them.
• 1:24:10
  Not only do they create the problems, but they also bar you from solving them so that they've got a drama to talk about in the papers to scare everybody's pants off. And unfortunately, it bloody works because they're in control of all this garbage that they're doing. But, you I mean, the the machinery that's available,
• 1:24:28
  and I and I do find it a bit weird,
• 1:24:31
  but, you know, we cannot keep arguing. Well, you're gonna put all these people out of work. Yeah. But
• 1:24:36
  is it really that constructive a sort of form of work? I don't really know. The fact is that it's inevitable this. As I've said before, you know, like, the main problem is is that all the workers that are going to lose their jobs, and I'm thinking of truck drivers as well, right, certainly in The States. Now I was watching something earlier today, which is another big issue.
• 1:24:54
  Why is it well, I know why, I suppose, but, you know, I'm asking rhetorically.
• 1:24:59
  Why is it that they don't have a stake in the very organization that currently employs them? In other words, some new technology comes along. Everybody should be celebrating. I don't have to drive those trucks as much. No. You don't. Do I still get paid? Of course. You've got you've got a share
• 1:25:13
  in the business. This is our business. Agree with you. Right? I 100% agree with you there. That's Then we go, great. I'll invent something that saves everybody time as well if if I don't get penalized for it. In other words, people get penalized for new inventions that are supposed to lighten their workload.
• 1:25:30
  Unknown: It's bureaucracy as as well. I mean, we became very inventive in the Victorian times
• 1:25:36
  and be became one of the world leaders in producing food
• 1:25:39
  because we didn't have slave labor as such. Because the farms, they thought, well, hang on a minute. You know? Some bloke walked along with a horse. They they we have to pay the bloke with a horse, then they got traction engines, one on each side of the field that ran the plow either way, and that speeded up plowing the field.
• 1:25:57
  These things are major advancements. But whilst you got mass immigration, they're gonna use the immigrants to
• 1:26:03
  not well, I wouldn't they don't plow fields with with horses anymore,
• 1:26:07
  but for picking things and things like that.
• 1:26:10
  You know? I mean, some bright spark brought up a machine that some
• 1:26:14
  apples,
• 1:26:15
  but a a machine that shakes the tree and all the apples fall out the trees. You'd have to employ people to pick them. But you're quite you're spot on about
• 1:26:23
  having people having shares
• 1:26:25
  in, you know, this this technology. I mean, they're out with Amazon soon.
• 1:26:29
  You won't have somebody knocking at your door delivering something. It'll be a drone that comes along, lands on your doorstep, drops the gives like, places the parcel there, and then takes off. And it dings you on your on your side. The people that drop them off at the moment are a bit light drones.
• 1:26:46
  Yeah. They're bit sort
• 1:26:48
  Unknown: of you know, think I would be if I was just dropping off a cardboard box every sort of twenty five minutes or whatever it is. Here's a box. A box. Yeah.
• 1:26:56
  Everybody's just getting boxes. Well, they're glad of the money, I suppose. But I think it's just
• 1:27:02
  if you can't sell up, it's why the sort of progress
• 1:27:06
  is not fully embraced by people because the anxiety, the rightful anxiety that people have that this is going to lead to a lowering of the standard of their living because they are no longer going to be employed
• 1:27:19
  causes
• 1:27:20
  people to to want to become Luddites.
• 1:27:23
  You know the Luddites. They were the guys that smashed all the Yeah. Sort of automated weaving stuff. They went, this is ridiculous. We can't and
• 1:27:31
  and they wouldn't have done that if they mill owners and said, you're included in the profits, lads. Am I? Oh, aye. Yeah. You've got a share here. This is why the cooperative movement is a blinder,
• 1:27:41
  on a sheet of paper. And in the early days, it's absolutely fantastic. But, of course, what's happened to it? Like everything else, it gets seduced by, drawn into, oh, let's make a little bit of quicker money, and then pretty soon, it's a co op in name only, you know, and it's a corporation and this, that, and the other. And because nobody can understand balance sheets. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. They're a great idea. And they worked. You know? They were needed by yeah. But
• 1:28:05
  Unknown: that's right. But they've been taken over by banks.
• 1:28:08
  Unknown: So that that Did you did you catch any of Ian? Did you catch any of Ian talking just then? I hope the whole lot.
• 1:28:14
  Unknown: Did he? Yeah. I was listening to it all the way through. Yeah. And I think he's absolutely brilliant. And I hope to tune in, not this Friday, the Friday afterwards when he's on at lunchtime because Yeah. He he he really is excellent. He he knows his stuff. There's no BS with him. He really does know his stuff. No. He he does know his stuff. And and That's gonna I'll make that document available somewhere. I don't know. I'll stick it in the FFT Telegram group. If you're not in there, get in it. Come on. Stop mucking about.
• 1:28:40
  Unknown: I'll I'll put it in there because it's not an easy read. I'm gonna tell you that right now. Okay? I read eight pages and there weren't enough. One of the things I didn't mention actually while it was on, but we can talk about it later is, he's talking about a thing in there called the DTCC,
• 1:28:54
  the depository trust and something company. I forgot what it is, credit company or something like that. It holds everything.
• 1:29:00
  Right? I mean, like, everything. All the bits of paper, it's just like a big clearing house for paper and stuff. And then and then you get down to all these phrases like
• 1:29:08
  equity
• 1:29:10
  and legal title.
• 1:29:11
  I hate all this language. It drives me crazy. It's like if I've got it I can't I haven't done it. Yeah.
• 1:29:17
  Yeah. It's designed to distance you from understanding, and it works. It's bloody effective because, you know, they wheel some lawyer in at 500 an hour and he just makes mincemeat of you by their because they're very good at playing monopoly, and we don't know all the rules you see, so it's it's obviously a a stilted game. But there's also another company,
• 1:29:35
  This is them having their sense of humor,
• 1:29:39
  which I think holds all the stocks and shares.
• 1:29:43
  Something like that. Wow. It's called Seed and Co. Seed is spelled c e d e. Right? C e d e, and it's linked with the DTCC.
• 1:29:52
  And I I remember reading about this from some guy called Allin Grab, who I think died.
• 1:29:57
  Anybody out there that used to nook, nook around in all the things, Allin, o r l I n, Grabb, g r a b b e, and he was banging on about cryptocurrencies
• 1:30:07
  about 02/1956
• 1:30:08
  and stuff. I remember reading a lot of this stuff back then. Wrote some brilliantly incisive things about the repercussive effects of technology, and many of them have come true. And he did a whole article on the DTCC and seed, but the
• 1:30:22
  you know when you seed something over to someone?
• 1:30:25
  That's the Yeah. You've let go of it. I seed power to this person as in c e d e. And so that's them having a little joke. You haven't got it anymore. We've got it. And And license, you know, when when you you license your car. I mean, for example,
• 1:30:39
  Unknown: up until about, I don't know, thirty four years ago, you owe you were the car owner. Now you are the keeper of the car.
• 1:30:45
  You're not the owner. Have you noticed that on your logbook? Doesn't say doesn't say owner. It says keeper.
• 1:30:50
  Wash it. Wash it. You know? And
• 1:30:53
  when we have the,
• 1:30:54
  government that could was it the, political party that could never be elected?
• 1:30:59
  That's the the people are gonna be handed back their cars and vehicles, so there will be the owner once more, not the keeper.
• 1:31:06
  Yeah. Because that to me is theft. Because when you license something, you're handing over ownership.
• 1:31:10
  So, you
• 1:31:13
  licenses are handing over ownership. Why should we have it? But
• 1:31:17
  Absolutely. That's it. But I was gonna say, I'm very, very I don't know whether you know about this this poll,
• 1:31:23
  but I'm
• 1:31:25
  very, very worried about going a Wix now in case I trip over a dead body
• 1:31:29
  because
• 1:31:30
  Oh, really? What what's been going there? Today. Well, you see, I went in to buy some ply.
• 1:31:36
  This was yesterday.
• 1:31:37
  Unknown: Some ply. You and your exciting purchase. You went to buy some plywood.
• 1:31:41
  Unknown: Lots of ply. Yes.
• 1:31:43
  Unknown: That's bloke thing. Got some
• 1:31:45
  Unknown: some free millimeter bait. You know? The rule rule
• 1:31:49
  are hardwood. Rule, odd stuff. Anyway, I was standing there, they got these posters
• 1:31:54
  behind the assistants,
• 1:31:56
  all over the place. And there's three great big posters about suicide
• 1:32:01
  and knives. I've got but they sell knives, and then they got suicide next to it. So I mean, what they can have is are people topping themselves in Wickes, you know. Oh, bloody hell. There's another one. Now quick quick get get
• 1:32:15
  Unknown: get a stretcher. I mean, have to take it. If you go in if you go into Wickes if you go into Wickes
• 1:32:22
  and you buy a knife, do they say, you're not thinking of killing yourself, are you? No. No. It's just the joinery work. Oh, good. It's just it's just that, you know, we have to ask now for health and safety.
• 1:32:33
  Right? You bring that chainsaw. You're you're not gonna take your own legs off, are you? No. It's to take some trees down and things like this. Oh, good.
• 1:32:40
  Yeah. But, I mean, they're basically sending you know, I'm sure we were talking about this. They're pointing out a signal to make you think about suicide. Why are you even putting it out? Right. But not only that. Yeah. They they got all members of staff carry body cameras.
• 1:32:53
  Unknown: So I mean, you know because we're all domestic.
• 1:32:57
  Oh, god. And and the other one is they don't stand
• 1:33:00
  what is it?
• 1:33:02
  Bad
• 1:33:03
  abuse or things like that, which is very upsetting because sometimes you you go into these places and you'd like an argument.
• 1:33:09
  And he got the sign up there. I mean, I I said to the girl in the bank, I said, I come here especially for an argument, just a five minute one, well, not a full half hour. You got this sign up now. You could not allowed to have abusive language
• 1:33:21
  or rude be rude or say anything racist.
• 1:33:23
  I I was I looking forward to it as well.
• 1:33:27
  Unknown: Well, it's just but what they're doing is
• 1:33:31
  by alerting you to dangers that are clearly of an extremely lower marginal nature. It's a bit like saying,
• 1:33:38
  you know, are you thinking committing suicide? It's like, watch out for spacemen crashing through the roof of Wickes. I mean, it's just it's mad. I know. It's But it's by design, isn't it? It's to create anxiety. Great bit noticeable.
• 1:33:49
  Unknown: And it's there when you're queuing up, and it's right in front of you. So it's really putting a division between you and staff because you don't need those signs.
• 1:33:57
  Unknown: So there you are. You're buying your three ply or whatever Yeah. And a yell comes out. Oh, there's another one just topped themselves in.
• 1:34:05
  Third
• 1:34:07
  one today. I don't know what's going on. People are just committing suicide in weeks all the time.
• 1:34:12
  It's just
• 1:34:15
  Unknown: Suicide Squad number
• 1:34:17
  suicide squad to Aisle Number 53,
• 1:34:20
  please.
• 1:34:21
  Oh,
• 1:34:22
  and safety, don't trip over the body.
• 1:34:26
  Unknown: It's got oh, dear me. So if you buy a robe, they say, you're not thinking about you're not gonna hang yourself with that, are you? No.
• 1:34:35
  It's just nonstop, isn't it? Mean, don't wanna know.
• 1:34:39
  And it's like I said to you, it doesn't make me wanna commit suicide, but looking at a notice like that makes me want to murder the person who put the notice up. So that's what you should tell Same area. Same area. Yes.
• 1:34:51
  Don't really mean that for any I've never murdered anybody, and I don't want to, but No. I'm it's an expression.
• 1:34:56
  It's simply Yes. A murderous intent. That's all it is. It's a turn of phrase. Yes. Please don't be offended if you work in Wix. I think you're a delightful store. Yes. But that's that's just silly. Yeah. That's just silly. But the but the the posters that are up there,
• 1:35:09
  Unknown: it's all as if you're a complete idiot.
• 1:35:12
  And they've all got these acronyms. You know? If you're thinking of suicide, contact I can't remember what the acronym was. And there's someone drugs.
• 1:35:19
  So if you go to Wickes, you got a a bit on the edge of suicide, into drugs,
• 1:35:24
  wanting to abuse the staff,
• 1:35:26
  and what do you have your picture taken as well? But, I mean, could I invite the staff? You'd be getting wedged married. Invite your staff to the wedding, and they'd take free pictures for you. It says find a photograph get a photographer in, doesn't it? So you can't
• 1:35:39
  So if you're abusive, sir, say, come to my effing win wedding on Saturday. Here it is. They'll come along and take the pictures for you.
• 1:35:49
  Unknown: You know those
• 1:35:50
  you know those voices you get over the tunnel system? Yeah. Mister Wilson?
• 1:35:54
  They need one of those. If anybody's thinking of committing suicide, will they make their way to the main checkout, please?
• 1:36:00
  Suicide people.
• 1:36:02
  I'm it's just it's mad. But there is definitely there's a design in it. There's a design in it. There really is.
• 1:36:09
  It's to get people as anxious about anything
• 1:36:12
  and everything all the time.
• 1:36:14
  Unknown: Well, I walked across the back of the bus station. I go a little, she said, take a short cut across there. And as I was walking across the bus station,
• 1:36:22
  what comes out on the public address system,
• 1:36:25
  please do not leave unattended baggage.
• 1:36:28
  We have coast circuit television,
• 1:36:31
  and we do not stand was it antisocial behavior?
• 1:36:34
  Thank you. Mhmm. So you mustn't leave your bags there. You mustn't be anti mustn't have antisocial behavior.
• 1:36:41
  So, I mean, what is this? It is literally
• 1:36:44
  an open prison there. People telling you what you can't do and what you can't do and and be you're suspicious they're suspicious of you being an antisocial person.
• 1:36:54
  Unknown: I mean, it's I've often thought with these things, we need to really push it. They need they need sounds, Eric, that say, do not break wind in Wix.
• 1:37:03
  Do you you know, are you about to break wind?
• 1:37:06
  Has somebody broken wind? No. Quick. Report it to the nearest assistant. Right. It's nonstop. Don't breathe an out in and out too loudly.
• 1:37:16
  It's it's
• 1:37:18
  like everybody's got to look to an authority
• 1:37:21
  to check about whether they can do a thing.
• 1:37:24
  You know? Yeah. I can't even commit suicide by myself.
• 1:37:28
  I I do it all the time. I'm not very good at it.
• 1:37:32
  I'm just
• 1:37:33
  Unknown: There's there's even a bloody seat in a bus station,
• 1:37:36
  and there's sign above it. Says, please give this seat up to a disabled person.
• 1:37:41
  Well, surely, wouldn't you do that anyway if you've if you've been brought up correctly and there's a disabled person? You wouldn't sit there and say, well, sit on my lap. If you sit up to the person.
• 1:37:51
  I mean, it's just
• 1:37:53
  Unknown: I don't get it. You would.
• 1:37:55
  Unknown: Yeah. The people that it's it's addressed to can't probably
• 1:37:59
  read or speak English anyway, so it makes no difference.
• 1:38:03
  You know? Yeah. It's but I but I found people of any nationality be generally polite
• 1:38:09
  Unknown: and helpful,
• 1:38:10
  Unknown: you know, to fellow human beings. That's the way we're brought up. Humans to humans are
• 1:38:15
  Unknown: fine. So Can't have any of that. Don't go through a government agency. Got to go through a government agent. Somebody needs to be paid to actually advise probably with a qualification that they studied sixteen years for at university.
• 1:38:25
  How to stop people committing suicide.
• 1:38:28
  Oh,
• 1:38:31
  Unknown: the other one is
• 1:38:32
  I went into Mark's Farts and Benders. Sorry. Smarts and Spencer's once. This was from several years back.
• 1:38:38
  And
• 1:38:39
  I actually I would not shop in Mark's and Spencer's. I hate the place. I loathe it. I actually walked through Marks and Spencer's as a shortcut
• 1:38:47
  to go at Tesco's, you see. Anyway, I was in Marks and Spencer's, and somebody gave me a gift token. So I was looking at what I could spend it on. When I went around the looking at the highly expensive clothing that's about triple the price of anywhere else,
• 1:38:59
  every place
• 1:39:01
  that you looked, it was something to do with charity.
• 1:39:04
  So wear a Shabbat underpants.
• 1:39:06
  It's charity. It's the goo googly's charity.
• 1:39:09
  And then when when there's women's bras, there's boobs charity,
• 1:39:13
  and the tip Yeah. And it's all these nasty words beginning with c, you know, you could be suffering from this. You could be suffering from that. And I was wondering, was it was it Big Pharma sponsoring sponsoring it or something? I mean, you walk out of gibbering wreck if no one know what? Oh, it's psycho
• 1:39:28
  Unknown: programming, isn't it? Yeah. Don't you think? Yeah. That's exactly what it is. Yeah. Yeah. There's always there's always that. I don't remember anybody being sort of worried about these things in the past because they were publicized. It's just like if anything's publicized, it just gets people's attention.
• 1:39:42
  It's it's,
• 1:39:44
  it's very sophisticated.
• 1:39:45
  I suppose Frederick Blackburn rightly would call it what fourth generation warfare it is. It's part of sort of social engineering thing
• 1:39:52
  to literally destroy our natural at ease with one another culture, which, of course, is getting more difficult with every passing sort of big knifing event. They seem to be all over the place, whether genuine or not. The fact is that, unfortunately, they're having the desired result on large numbers of people, I suppose. Although we do have a fundamental problem.
• 1:40:10
  I I am referring, of course, to, the latest one, which is the so called event this event in Belfast, which is very wonky,
• 1:40:17
  in all sorts of regards. I mean, I've seen the thing that gets me is when people shoot footage of this,
• 1:40:23
  was thinking, I thought, would I be doing that if I had a camera?
• 1:40:26
  I'll just stand there at a distance
• 1:40:29
  and film this. See, what's that about? That that's just I mean, am I supposed to believe that that's genuine or that the person filming it was an agent
• 1:40:38
  on the whole thing. Precisely. I mean, the whole yeah.
• 1:40:41
  And then you've got people saying all sorts of stuff that's just goofy.
• 1:40:46
  They're going, well, you know, if you react badly, it just divides society.
• 1:40:50
  What? It's already divided, you don't know. I mean
• 1:40:55
  Unknown: Will there be a skip conveniently
• 1:40:57
  left with bottles and bricks in it? I wonder. Mhmm. Just convenient. You know, do these things sort of happen? Yes. Yes.
• 1:41:06
  Hey, Paul. Yeah.
• 1:41:08
  Unknown: Yeah Paul. Hello Paul. How's it how are things in America? You okay? Well, good.
• 1:41:14
  Unknown: Good. Very very good. Are you talking about that
• 1:41:18
  Roger was talking about an
• 1:41:21
  event earlier today and Keira Starmer talked
• 1:41:25
  about it and said, anybody that shares this video will be arrested immediately.
• 1:41:30
  It was,
• 1:41:31
  I think it was in Scotland or Ireland
• 1:41:34
  and this family took in
• 1:41:37
  a foreigner,
• 1:41:38
  a foreign family,
• 1:41:40
  set him up at a house next door
• 1:41:42
  and said, look, whatever you want, whatever you need, we'll pay for it, new furniture, all this, that, the other thing. Well they had missed one thing,
• 1:41:51
  and the guy that one
• 1:41:54
  of the guys that was next door got incensed and started attacking the guy with a box cutter, and there was just like all of these people that were out there standing around watching what was going on. Nobody was trying to step in to to interject,
• 1:42:09
  and they were saying, don't no. Don't do anything. The cops are coming. The cops are coming.
• 1:42:13
  Well,
• 1:42:15
  apparently,
• 1:42:17
  the guy got his eyes poked out and
• 1:42:21
  and and he almost bled to death, and and I
• 1:42:25
  have you heard about that? Do you know anything about it? No. I haven't. But it's not no. Yeah.
• 1:42:31
  Roger was talking about It is the fundamentals.
• 1:42:35
  Unknown: It's still, you know,
• 1:42:37
  here's a clip from LBC,
• 1:42:40
  somebody kindly sent me this today, there's a there's a house there, listen I don't listen to LBC but you just take stuff when it pops up, just to illustrate a point, this is a guy called Ian Dale,
• 1:42:50
  Let me just check all my doodads. It looks as though it's gonna play properly. Here we go. This country will remain almost ungovernable until we have mass deportations.
• 1:42:58
  Unknown: I mean, we consistently voted conservative.
• 1:43:00
  We voted for Brexit. The politicians just seem to turn around, throw it all back in our faces, and say, here you go. Have record levels of immigration instead. And I think the very base of this whole thing, that is this problem.
• 1:43:13
  Just a massive disconnect between the political class and the people of this country
• 1:43:17
  who have never given any consent to this, and there's certainly no mandate for the scale of immigration we've seen in this country. But you can't go as far as,
• 1:43:25
  Unknown: certainly,
• 1:43:26
  restore have gone, and indeed,
• 1:43:29
  reform have gone, I think, too far on this too, to deport people who are here perfectly legally.
• 1:43:36
  Unknown: You you mean in ending definite leave to remain?
• 1:43:40
  Unknown: Well, you can do that for future people, but you can't do that for people who've already got it. I mean, that would be outrageous, surely. You can. Yeah. Of course, you can. I mean, it's easily we can do it. You So people who who are here perfectly legally, you think should be deported. From a basic humanity point of view, from a fairness point of view, you can't suddenly tell people who've got a perfect legal right to be here that, oh, we're changing the rules now, so you'll have to go. I mean, you cannot do that. You can. Well, you can do that, but is that really the kind of country you want to live in? Yes.
• 1:44:17
  Unknown: Yeah. It is, actually. It's too you see that that the media class are gone as well. There's literally no one
• 1:44:25
  out there speaking for us. Because they can't. Paul, I've got a bit of echo coming through from your speaker. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:44:35
  So that's Ian Dale, a very decent chap at LBC,
• 1:44:39
  dreadful organization.
• 1:44:40
  It also got that other muppet that works for it. I don't know what he's like as a person. It's not personal criticism.
• 1:44:45
  But but I just the call is just spot on. The bottom line, you know, I Yes. I mentioned before. I used to bang on about this thing about putting tigers in Trafalgar Square, and they're gonna do what tigers and lions do. They're gonna eat everybody. Right? And so what do you do? You you blame the lions and tigers? You do not. You look at the people that brought them there. Who are the people that have allowed, enabled, and done this? And that's what all of this sort of on the on the street diversion is all about.
• 1:45:11
  The thing is that even though you may criticize it and say, like in Belfast where they're setting fire to things, this is wrong or whatever, that's irrelevant because you've actually shut off every avenue of expression
• 1:45:23
  that those people can make and does as well this is all all by design as well bottle it up keep it pushed out of the communication space and all the people have got left is their fists
• 1:45:35
  and that's by design. This is what they want, you know, and they're actually doing that on purpose. There's no two ways about it. All this reasonable discussion about things, forget that. It's time for fire, and it's gonna come whether we like it or not, and it'll be a mess, and it'll be wrong, And I'll and I'll agree with everybody that says we shouldn't be behaving like this. You're absolutely right. But what other sort of outcome is there likely to be? It's by design. Surely,
• 1:45:58
  Unknown: it's by design. But it is by design. And but if we made the third world countries,
• 1:46:03
  you once said, oh, if we did away with usury, the wealth
• 1:46:08
  that these usury scammers who have stolen and have stolen off of us Yep. Is phenomenal.
• 1:46:14
  If even a fraction of that was spent
• 1:46:17
  on for example, what you're talking about in The Netherlands where they're doing this fantastic farming techniques.
• 1:46:23
  If they made these third world countries the place to be,
• 1:46:27
  it would entice
• 1:46:28
  people back to those countries
• 1:46:31
  to get some good work, produce food.
• 1:46:35
  We could help them.
• 1:46:36
  That and you would you you wouldn't have to,
• 1:46:39
  have
• 1:46:40
  forced
• 1:46:41
  repatriation.
• 1:46:43
  They'd be going back on their own. You'd have rubber boats going the opposite way. France, I wanna go home.
• 1:46:48
  And that that and that that that's it. You wouldn't need any laws and things like that. You would make it you'd have a package that would be so
• 1:46:54
  good, a bit like the, a certain thing that happened
• 1:47:00
  at the beginning of the war, where if they want to go home, it could give them an education,
• 1:47:05
  help them,
• 1:47:06
  and help them build their own countries up so they're they're places to be. Why not? Because surely, we're starving those countries
• 1:47:13
  of the people,
• 1:47:15
  which is very
• 1:47:16
  unfair, are the people they need, which is their own folk.
• 1:47:20
  Unknown: Absolutely. It's the it's the kindest thing it's the kindest thing we can do. Help. Yeah. I mean, I'm scouring the sort of morning radio shows. Mike Graham's away this week, and I know I keep banging on about the show, but I do it to sort of, like, keep an ear to the ground apart from which it's cup of tea time, and it actually works for me. I'm not gonna sit around and glean the press all day. I mean, really? I'm gonna do that? What a waste of time. So I'm just trying to get the sort of hubbub of people animated when they're talking about things. They had a guy on, really decent bloke, but you see,
• 1:47:49
  it's like people are working with an incomplete toolkit of of knowledge,
• 1:47:53
  really. And this guy was
• 1:47:56
  he made some really good points in the first half, and then it goes completely off the reservation for me. And he's he's basically saying,
• 1:48:03
  you know, we gotta deal with this, that, and the other. And then he said, now I'm married to whatever it was, an Indian woman or something. He said, and, her and her brother, they're really fantastic people, and they're educated and all this kind of stuff and and blah blah blah blah blah. And all I'm thinking is you've nicked them from
• 1:48:19
  their own people.
• 1:48:21
  You've stolen them.
• 1:48:23
  Right? You've all these highly skilled people that they talk about. Right? And they are. I'm not denying that. And people, they're an asset to this country.
• 1:48:31
  They can't be.
• 1:48:34
  It's impossible,
• 1:48:35
  right? Because this country is the home of, in my case, the English,
• 1:48:40
  and we share it in goodwill with the Scots that are here and the Welsh and vice versa, I think. Of course, there are a few frat cars every now and again, But that's my view. I'm quite onto it being hammered by anybody. By the way, you wanna call in and actually make a point, please do. We had a call in ages. Go to paulenglishlive.com
• 1:48:57
  and click the link there, and you can come in at the studio, and you can gob off. It'd be great because we're kind of a gob off time and I think it'd be great to hear from anybody out there. You can talk about anything you like, but not suicide. We've already covered that.
• 1:49:08
  But You got a wick for that, don't you? I think that's the thing. You got a wick. If you want to commit suicide, go a wick's apparently. This is where they're it's all going. It's kicking off down there. They're just loving it. So it's completely barking mad, of course. We don't mean a word of that. This is called satire. Well, I am joking. A 100% joking. Yeah. I'll make sure it's certain. Okay?
• 1:49:27
  But but this guy, Ian Dale, don't get it.
• 1:49:31
  They they it's because, and they're not gonna get it because they don't they're not in it.
• 1:49:37
  And working class families are right in this,
• 1:49:40
  and this is mad it's a madness but it is not really a madness. This is how the plan of the globalist communist enemy
• 1:49:48
  is unfolding and there's nothing new under the sun with this,
• 1:49:52
  but then most people haven't
• 1:49:54
  read stuff they don't know that this sort of thing has gone on before
• 1:49:58
  they don't know that like in Russia they released all the murderers into the streets why to create confusion they did the same thing in the French Revolution
• 1:50:05
  Right? They have to import or place amidst the people that they want to crush a sort of revolutionary maniac force that causes all of this drama,
• 1:50:15
  and unfortunately the loss of innocent lives,
• 1:50:18
  and really dramatic events, and then these are now with modern sort of information technology
• 1:50:23
  bigged up. They have an instantaneous hit, and you've got to hold back. I I I'm waiting a week before I even think about that Belfast thing even though I've mentioned it. Why? Because
• 1:50:32
  what am I looking at? I don't know. Not
• 1:50:35
  soon as you get your emotions get hijacked, including me, right, you can't question things.
• 1:50:41
  You go into a a state, don't you?
• 1:50:43
  Anger comes up or whatever it is, and it's right to come up. Your initial response is have it. Just do it in the privacy of your own home. But, generally, it's not gonna lead to a more intelligent response, in my view. It just isn't.
• 1:50:56
  Whether we can actually make that, I don't know. Not when we're governed by tracers.
• 1:51:01
  That's literally all that's really all that's happening. They're traitors. They're
• 1:51:06
  destroy they're killing. Our government are actually directly augmenting the demise of their of supposedly their own people,
• 1:51:12
  and I don't care what they say, by their fruits shall ye know them. And look at the fruits, and they're getting worse and more rotten with every passing day, and the man in the street knows, he might not be able to iterate it convincingly to the crowd, but he bloody knows,
• 1:51:27
  he feels it, and of course, you're not allowed to express that. This is causing division, you assholes. You've create you you caused the division
• 1:51:34
  by creating a situation that was bound to lead to this, and you knew it. Someone in your circles knew it would lead to this because this is a pattern that has been done over and over repeatedly throughout history.
• 1:51:46
  You you know, and I'm going back to scripture. If you allow the alien to live with you, they will become the head and you will become the tail. It's like an engineering principle. You can't help it because we we are kindly housed, aren't we? I think we are. Yeah. Go, yeah. Okay. Blah blah blah blah blah. But this is it's missing the point, and people go, you know, I I was listening to e Michael Jones the other day, who I rate highly many areas, but this thing he's got about race and ethnicity, he's barking mad as as I'm concerned. I mean, won't be able to have a conversation with him. Race doesn't exist, he says. What? Know? And then he was banging on. He said, it was a term that was only invented in the sixteen hundreds or something. Yeah. But ethnicity was invented in 1953
• 1:52:25
  by a small hat.
• 1:52:27
  I mean, come on. It's
• 1:52:28
  just you don't need all these bloody words to describe a problem. You don't.
• 1:52:33
  Apparently, the common man can't can't understand his own thoughts and feelings. Yes. He can.
• 1:52:38
  Unknown: The common woman can as well. We know what's going on. It's like when you get a word it's like when you get a word salad about architecture.
• 1:52:44
  Something is rather beautiful. You don't need to have it explained.
• 1:52:47
  As a child, I'd look at structures like Tower Bridge and things like that and think, wow. Isn't that fantastic?
• 1:52:53
  But I'd look at Gasworks and think what an ugly eyesore it is. And this is the thing. There there there are all these words to explain.
• 1:53:01
  You don't need to have explained. So it's either beautiful or it's not beautiful. If it's ugly, it's ugly. If it's beautiful, it's beautiful. Post op. Yeah. And the Greeks and the Romans, they knew that. You look at the beautiful art that they produced
• 1:53:13
  in those civilizations.
• 1:53:15
  Unknown: You know it, Eric. Everybody listening here knows it. We just know it. You don't need to go to art criticism class. All that means is you're gonna be equipped with loads of fancy sentences to confuse everybody
• 1:53:26
  or create clarity. I'm not saying it's all bad. Sometimes you hear someone eulogize about a beautiful thing and it adds to it. You go, great. But when they're eulogizing about a piece of puke, you just look at me, go, you sad, you know, rudulous
• 1:53:39
  Trophilic house.
• 1:53:40
  Unknown: But Trophilic house, I think, by by Goldfinger.
• 1:53:44
  I always bring that up. I actually think Blaster Bates with a couple of Lorry Loads of TNT would make a vast improvement to that. What Yeah. Well, I think on my when I This is as crap. I think
• 1:53:55
  Unknown: yeah.
• 1:53:56
  Eric, on my on my when I when I seize power
• 1:54:00
  Yeah.
• 1:54:01
  That's number seven on my to do list. There's a few things slightly more important than that, but it's pretty important.
• 1:54:06
  It's that building and anything that even remotely looks like it, they're coming down.
• 1:54:11
  I don't care. Oh, yes. They're coming down. No more architectural puke in my eye line. Sorry, you idiots
• 1:54:18
  that build these things. But it's because you know there's just these wet people
• 1:54:22
  all over the place don't speak out don't say anything you know what's happening we're hitting a point where no one cares anymore
• 1:54:29
  no one cares about not speaking out it's gonna happen more and more and more. This is a very dangerous time as well though because agent provocateurs are gonna look to seize control of that crowd emotion.
• 1:54:40
  This is what happened in the French Revolution, which I know quite a bit about because I read some of it. I don't know everything about it. Someone knows loads about it. But when you look at what it took to get that going, they had about five goes from about 1788.
• 1:54:51
  They only got it kicked off. Took them six years to keep agitating the people. I think they better do it a lot quicker now with all the sort of communications technology that's around. Yeah? Oh, yes. And I tell you what happens. They they create a power vacuum,
• 1:55:03
  Unknown: and what do they do? They get one of their own ruthless
• 1:55:07
  specimens
• 1:55:08
  to fill that power vacuum. It happens every time. Look how Paul Paul Pott got to power, and Mhmm. All these absolute brutal
• 1:55:16
  evil people. I was watching a documentary about Paul Pott. My godfathers.
• 1:55:21
  He he makes chairman Mel look like an angel. Man was was bonkers.
• 1:55:25
  Unknown: Absolutely bonkers.
• 1:55:27
  Isn't it don't you think, Eric? It kind of
• 1:55:29
  with very few exceptions,
• 1:55:31
  whenever you take individuals that are ambitious in that arena and they finally get what they want, many of them just go berserk. They become unhinged.
• 1:55:38
  They do get some sort of That's right. I'm absolutely impervious to anything. No bullet's gonna strike me. I can go mad, and they do go mad,
• 1:55:47
  and everybody around them is cowering for some reason or other because the they've been handpicked
• 1:55:53
  to be weeds.
• 1:55:55
  There aren't any it's a team bunch of rats,
• 1:55:58
  and they all protect one another, and not one of them have got a testicle between them. That that's there's no actual genuine manliness or curry. No one stands up and goes, this is outright wrong. And if you go through it, I'm gonna leap across this table. I'm gonna take your head off.
• 1:56:13
  Unknown: Well, that's what you see. That's right. But you know what he Pol Pot did? He tried to destroy the intellectuals,
• 1:56:19
  and he said anybody that wears glasses reads,
• 1:56:22
  so we'd love to get rid of them. So they're going around finding out people wore glasses
• 1:56:28
  and shooting them because anyone wearing glasses
• 1:56:31
  was an intellectual because
• 1:56:34
  you had to you know, the glasses cost money, the average pan peasant couldn't afford the glasses.
• 1:56:39
  So it was it it they they turned the clock back to year zero
• 1:56:43
  that caused mass starvation.
• 1:56:46
  And communist lunacy
• 1:56:48
  is is is like an infection. It's infecting the minds of people, and it's infecting the minds of people in this country as well. It's complete nutter.
• 1:56:57
  And I I like the
• 1:56:59
  interview someone in the street
• 1:57:01
  on one of these interview. Was it old TikTok?
• 1:57:04
  There's a woman. She said, how many sexes are there? She said three.
• 1:57:08
  Unknown: Male, female Oh, hang on. Hang on. Hold on. I'm gonna play it. I've got it. Yeah. Let's play it. And then we've got the break. Okay. Yeah. I think I've got this. Where is she? Where's this lovely lass?
• 1:57:18
  Unknown: I think it's AI to be between you and I, I think it's AI. I don't think so.
• 1:57:24
  Unknown: Might not I don't think so. No. The reason why I don't think so is that the tattoo she's got are so off.
• 1:57:29
  Oh, no. Unless it's really the
• 1:57:32
  oh, I do like you, but you are awful. Here we go. How many genders are there? Three.
• 1:57:36
  Unknown: What are they?
• 1:57:38
  Unknown: Yeah. It's it's actually very simple. As male, female, and mentally ill.
• 1:57:44
  Unknown: You got that, everyone? It's true. It's true. Three sexes. It is true. It's true.
• 1:57:49
  Male, female, and
• 1:57:51
  mentally ill. Nailed it, love. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.
• 1:57:56
  Unknown: And that's what they're gonna say to anybody. Ask me. Is is this three genders? Male, female, mentally ill. And it's true.
• 1:58:03
  Unknown: Well, it is.
• 1:58:05
  It is. But what about this? How about this is a is that this is from the '19 Paul will know this. This is that mister what's his name? What's he he's good this. Boys are boys from the beginning.
• 1:58:17
  Unknown: If you were born a boy, you stay a boy.
• 1:58:20
  Girls are girls right from the start.
• 1:58:24
  If you were born a girl,
• 1:58:26
  you stay a girl and grow up to be a lady.
• 1:58:29
  Everybody's
• 1:58:30
  fancy,
• 1:58:31
  everybody's
• 1:58:32
  fine.
• 1:58:33
  Your body's fancy and so is mine.
• 1:58:39
  Only girls can be the mommies.
• 1:58:43
  Only boys can be the daddies.
• 1:58:46
  Yes, sir. Everybody's
• 1:58:48
  fancy.
• 1:58:55
  Mine.
• 1:58:58
  Unknown: There you go. That wouldn't go down too well in today's environment, would it? No. Would it? I think he did poisoning the pigeons in the park, didn't he? He actually did a song song called poisoning the pigeons in the park. He did this sort of reverse logic. Yeah. When you're poisoning
• 1:59:14
  pigeons in the park. And he said, with a bit of luck too, you can get a no. With a little bit of luck, you can get a squirrel too when you're poisoning pigeons in the park.
• 1:59:23
  What is his name now? I think
• 1:59:26
  Unknown: Paul in America might know him. Yeah. He died recently. Mister something or other. Yeah. He did all these sort of
• 1:59:33
  Unknown: Oh, yeah. He's he's a real laugh.
• 1:59:36
  Unknown: He's a royal laugh. Anyway, I played this a couple of weeks ago. I think this is an abbreviated version of it. I hope it is. Yeah. I just kinda snipped a bit off. This is by the political bangers. It's the farming thing. Who owns the fork? As in fork the system. We're gonna take this little five minute break. We'll be back with you on the other side. If you've got the urge and you feel like calling in, please do. Be great to just have a chat with you about anything at all. Here we go. We're gonna take a little break. We'll be back after this cracking little thing. It's probably AI or whatever. It's done by Charlie, I think it was. It's great stuff. Here we go.
• 2:00:27
  Unknown: Now the sun signs phones just to buy more time. Rain comes wrong, sun burns late. Bank wants blood and the state wants the state. Supermarket smiles while the margins bleed somewhere in the boardroom,
• 2:00:40
  thereby in the sea.
• 2:02:03
  The farmer at the food chain.
• 2:02:06
  For the system,
• 2:02:07
  not the soul, that heal the soul before we lose control. You can't bark over the morning rain. You can't factory build what the earth
• 2:03:40
  ask where's tea. You squeeze the grove,
• 2:03:44
  worship the chain, and wonder why the food bill climbs
• 2:03:47
  again. The fork is power, the field is crowned. Control the food. And you control the town, and control the sea, and you control the birth, control the hunger.
• 2:03:59
  And you only earth.
• 2:04:02
  No farmers,
• 2:04:04
  Unknown: no food.
• 2:04:06
  Unknown: There's a geek that still remembers granddad's
• 2:05:23
  Who changed the food and called it a meal? The political bangers
• 2:05:28
  where the truth gets a beat before the system gets away with stealing the field.
• 2:05:35
  Owning the
• 2:05:40
  Unknown: The political bangers, who owns the fork. I did play that about a month back, but I just took a few minutes off of it at the beginning, and it's gonna get an airing every now and again, that one. I quite like it. I know it's quite dramatic, but, you know, it's on it's on point, isn't it, with everything? So,
• 2:05:57
  again, I just wanna let everybody know, if you wanna call into the show,
• 2:06:01
  go over to paulenglishlive.com
• 2:06:03
  Unknown: forward slash call. You can have your say here on Radio And we're very polite. Feet.
• 2:06:09
  Yeah. Yes. We're very polite, and we don't say rude words, and we're house trained. And one thing I'm interested in, I'm intrigued with
• 2:06:18
  the,
• 2:06:19
  illustration you've got advertising this week's show.
• 2:06:23
  And I think we've got some money. We've got two people come into the audit come into the studio. We have. I'll introduce them momentarily.
• 2:06:29
  Unknown: They're gonna have to let me answer your question first, because it's a great it's a great drawing. Right? It's absolutely a brilliant illustration.
• 2:06:36
  So I'll tell you the back. It's an illustration from Treasure Island, obviously written by Robert Louis Stevenson Mhmm.
• 2:06:43
  Which was actually classed as being the first real proper adventure story, and it it laid down lots of sort of motifs and things. It's a fantastic read of course. Who could not like Long John Silver? And
• 2:06:55
  all that kind of stuff Well, Ireland. Carrots and cheese and all that kind of stuff. But the illustrations by a guy who died, an English illustrator and novelist,
• 2:07:05
  He died too young. I forgot what he got now. He got some sort of motor neuron disease or something in his fifties. He's called Mervyn,
• 2:07:13
  m e r v y n, Peak, p e a k e. Mervyn Peak. And if you look up the illustrated Treasure Island by Mervyn Peak, you're gonna see some fantastic illustrations. That one is my favorite of them all because it's when the pirates are storming the compound. Right? A surge, I think it says in the there was a surge of them coming over. I just absolutely love it because it looks as though they're just piling up for the fence. It's got a real sense of movement in it. I've actually cut the bottom off. You can actually we've cut their legs off in the illustration because we've gotta make it fit. But, yeah, he's a blinding illustrator. He also wrote a trilogy, which not many people know about. Lots of trilogies were written in England in the sort of thirties and forties and fifties
• 2:07:52
  called the Gormanghast
• 2:07:54
  trilogy.
• 2:07:56
  And it's very ornate descriptive language. You either like that sort of stuff or you don't. I read it when I was a teenager. I've still got cop I've still got the original copies on my shelf,
• 2:08:05
  and it's it's a brilliant book. It's it's set in
• 2:08:09
  Gormengast,
• 2:08:10
  which is this castle,
• 2:08:12
  like fuck them all actually, Eric, now that I think about it. Yeah. It's called Gormengast,
• 2:08:16
  and it's just full of ritual. It's about the ancient ritual and running of this place, and how a rebellion
• 2:08:22
  builds up through a guy called Stearpike.
• 2:08:25
  They've got great names. So there's a young lad called Stearpike,
• 2:08:28
  and there's this phenomenal fight. I always remember it absolutely brilliant where he has to fight this fat cook in the kitchen,
• 2:08:35
  and the way it's described, there's a thunderstorm, of course. There's always thunder thunderstorms when the knife bites and cleavers and everything going off in this thing. And it's described such that every time there's a flash of lightning, Stairpike can see the menacing figure of this huge vast chef coming at him. And then that lightning goes off and he he disappears again at the dark. It's fab. Absolutely brilliant stuff.
• 2:08:56
  So those of you who like good illustrations,
• 2:08:58
  Mervyn Peaks definitely worth looking up. And if you like a good story, Gormenghast also written by him is definitely worth having a look at. And he also did a children's book called Captain Slaughterhouse,
• 2:09:08
  which is about pirates. I've got a copy of that kicking around somewhere as well. Wonderful sort of doodles and noodles and things like that. And it's shame it was taken so early though, because it's marvelous.
• 2:09:19
  I mean, it sounds to be a bit like Yeah. But look at what he produced. Look at what he produced. Many people don't produce stuff like that. If you go and look at his other drawings, there's one of Long John Silver as a young man with only one leg without a hat on or anything, like as a young and and it's the description of his face that they got from the text and everything. It gives you a different feeling for the story. It's just that good. However, as you rightly pointed out yeah.
• 2:09:40
  As you rightly pointed out, Eric, we've had arrivees into the studio. And because it's ladies first, and this is really rather interesting,
• 2:09:49
  Alice is here, and I'm assuming well I don't know which Alice is it Alice,
• 2:09:54
  let me unmute you a little bit. Hi, you've unmuted yourself. Alice, welcome to the studio.
• 2:09:59
  Unknown: Hello Paul.
• 2:10:01
  Unknown: Hello.
• 2:10:02
  Now is that is that I'm I'm lovely. How are you? Are you are you the Alice
• 2:10:07
  gorgeous?
• 2:10:08
  Unknown: I am. I am that one. Hello.
• 2:10:11
  Unknown: Hello. Hey, hello Alice.
• 2:10:14
  Unknown: Hello.
• 2:10:15
  Unknown: It's nice to hear It the
• 2:10:17
  Unknown: is. Yeah, fantastic. And are you particularly gorgeous today, Alice?
• 2:10:22
  Unknown: Most days. Yeah, I'd say so. I'd say five out of seven,
• 2:10:26
  probably, maybe. That's great. Yeah. That's good. Eric, I wanted to say thank you very much for recommending Miles. I
• 2:10:33
  spoke to him yesterday. A
• 2:10:35
  Unknown: Oh, lovely chap. Very knowledgeable. We got mates, Miles and myself. He's I went to see him on Wednesday.
• 2:10:43
  Unknown: Oh, I called him on Wednesday.
• 2:10:45
  Yeah. He's he's busy. Thank you for that.
• 2:10:48
  Unknown: I hope he gives us some help.
• 2:10:51
  Unknown: He's going to be. We're going to get there.
• 2:10:55
  Unknown: Yeah. That's good.
• 2:10:57
  Well, he cured me. I had high blood pressure and he cured me.
• 2:11:02
  Unknown: He's a fantastic doctor, he really is. Still telling bad jokes though, darling, aren't we?
• 2:11:08
  Unknown: Yes.
• 2:11:09
  Yes. He
• 2:11:10
  hasn't cured me of that. No.
• 2:11:13
  Unknown: Is that what you went to see him for, Eric? Well,
• 2:11:16
  Unknown: to it's to cure cure me of my flatulence jokes. You see, that's the trouble. I'll go in there and then I don't I don't think that would be a cure. Would anything.
• 2:11:24
  Unknown: No. The higher field. You you would be reducing character and stature instantaneously
• 2:11:29
  if that stopped happening. We can't we would lose the essence of Eric. This would be no good. That would be very sad. Yes. Yes. Bad.
• 2:11:37
  Unknown: Wanted to tell you or ask you,
• 2:11:40
  do you think this illegal immigration
• 2:11:43
  thing is a bit of a distraction?
• 2:11:46
  And I'll explain fully what I mean.
• 2:11:49
  Are you aware
• 2:11:51
  that
• 2:11:52
  when students come here from any country,
• 2:11:55
  they can get settlement and then bring all their family?
• 2:11:59
  And they've been doing that for a very long time.
• 2:12:02
  And also,
• 2:12:04
  they're
• 2:12:06
  supposing somebody's here of Pakistani heritage, they're born here,
• 2:12:11
  they can marry someone in Pakistan or what have you and then bring them here
• 2:12:18
  And they've been doing that a very long time.
• 2:12:22
  Unknown: I'm And aware of put those numbers together
• 2:12:25
  Unknown: and
• 2:12:26
  look at those figures.
• 2:12:30
  I think the general public might be quite angry
• 2:12:34
  about that.
• 2:12:36
  Unknown: Do you think?
• 2:12:40
  We're getting a bit cross over here about all this. Yeah. I mean, I think the word illegal is of course a misdirection.
• 2:12:47
  That's what I think that's what they were talking about in some of these clips. Oh, Well, we've got to stop the illegal migration.
• 2:12:54
  No.
• 2:12:55
  No. All of it.
• 2:12:57
  Yeah. All of it.
• 2:13:00
  Unknown: Buzzword. It's not sustainable,
• 2:13:02
  is it?
• 2:13:03
  Unknown: Well, it's by design, isn't it, Alice? It's by design. I mean, I I still keep coming back.
• 2:13:09
  I think in that clip, the guy mentioned it.
• 2:13:12
  The English, the Scots, the Welsh, the people of Northern Ireland and Ireland, these islands in the main have never been asked.
• 2:13:19
  You ask me first,
• 2:13:21
  but Yeah. They haven't. No. It's there's an assumed authority here in the situation,
• 2:13:26
  and we've never been asked because they know what the answer will always be,
• 2:13:30
  so they can't ask the question. So you've got this incredibly divisive communications policy where they're focusing on illegal immigration. It's got that's part of it. It but it all has to be stopped,
• 2:13:42
  and repatriation
• 2:13:43
  has to be part of the deal. We've got to get it sorted out. Otherwise, there is literally no future for us. It's not sort of,
• 2:13:50
  you know,
• 2:13:51
  hate mongering. It's literally an analysis, is it not, of the situation. You go, like, if they're coming in at this rate and reproducing at this rate and you're paying them all this money, but the indigenous people are paying taxes to pay for these people to effectively take over the cultural space of the land, then the English are finished.
• 2:14:09
  Unknown: Indeed.
• 2:14:11
  Indeed, outnumbered
• 2:14:12
  Unknown: massively. It's just logic.
• 2:14:14
  Unfortunately it's hellish logic, but it's it's logic.
• 2:14:17
  So
• 2:14:18
  I mean,
• 2:14:20
  yeah, I'm glad you brought it up. It's absolutely right. The word illegal is just another misnomer it's a misdirection it's to soften the blow
• 2:14:27
  and to stop you bringing up the thing that the dog like that guy Ian Dale said oh that would that wouldn't be humanitarian
• 2:14:33
  or something so it's it's humanitarian to destroy the English then is it Is that what you're saying? Because it's either or.
• 2:14:40
  Sorry.
• 2:14:42
  I would No. Please.
• 2:14:44
  Unknown: Send
• 2:14:45
  everybody
• 2:14:46
  back
• 2:14:47
  Mhmm. Who came here after 2001,
• 2:14:51
  because I think that's when it accelerated
• 2:14:53
  under Tony Blair
• 2:14:56
  massively.
• 2:14:57
  And
• 2:14:59
  I also
• 2:15:00
  should tell you that I worked
• 2:15:03
  as admin
• 2:15:05
  for an office of the home variety.
• 2:15:09
  Unknown: So
• 2:15:11
  Unknown: I'm not telling you any secrets,
• 2:15:13
  I'm only telling you things that are in the public domain.
• 2:15:20
  It's on the government website.
• 2:15:22
  If you employ
• 2:15:23
  somebody who's not got papers
• 2:15:27
  or you house them,
• 2:15:29
  then the home office can fine you basically.
• 2:15:33
  So how is that working out? It's a bit like everything else, it's a bit like all rights or
• 2:15:39
  human rights or common law rights.
• 2:15:42
  Everything's been ignored
• 2:15:44
  and subverted.
• 2:15:45
  Everything
• 2:15:46
  is on the table at the moment.
• 2:15:49
  You know what I mean?
• 2:15:50
  Yep. We're in a right old pickle,
• 2:15:54
  and I just need a fortnight to sort it out, thank you very much.
• 2:16:00
  Unknown: Is that all you need? I'll put you in if you're only if you're only gonna set you a fortnight, Alice, you've got the job. That's great. A fortnight.
• 2:16:07
  Unknown: I mean,
• 2:16:09
  I saw I saw the mess
• 2:16:11
  when I worked there
• 2:16:13
  and the numbers,
• 2:16:15
  and it won't have got any better
• 2:16:18
  since I left.
• 2:16:21
  It's scary,
• 2:16:22
  it really is.
• 2:16:25
  Don't know how we sort this out.
• 2:16:27
  I'd really rather we didn't do it by burning buildings down. I don't think that's helpful.
• 2:16:33
  And I don't advocate violence.
• 2:16:36
  I
• 2:16:38
  wouldn't mind if a lot of people went and had a really long sit down in London.
• 2:16:47
  Does anyone remember Occupy?
• 2:16:52
  Unknown: Sort of.
• 2:16:53
  Unknown: Yeah. Yes. But what about what about
• 2:16:56
  what about taking taking over the buildings like BBC and things like that
• 2:17:00
  and allow people out but not in?
• 2:17:03
  Because that is the greatest weapon ever is they're using propaganda
• 2:17:07
  to keep themselves in power,
• 2:17:10
  and people can't many people can't see that. And it's it's I mean, let's face it. If we knew the truth, they're basically traitors,
• 2:17:17
  and they should be charged as such and treated as such, or they're innocent until proved guilty rather.
• 2:17:24
  So people like Blair and that should be arrested
• 2:17:27
  and charged with treason
• 2:17:30
  Yeah. And under the treason act.
• 2:17:33
  I am not an advocate of capital punishment. I'm passionately against it,
• 2:17:38
  but that is what the act says. And Blair altered it in 1997
• 2:17:43
  for life imprisonment. It's null and void. Still means death by hanging.
• 2:17:48
  I would not want to live in a country where they're hanging people. I'm against it. But if that's what the law says, then that's what the law says.
• 2:17:58
  Unknown: I'm not an advocate
• 2:17:59
  of violence or capital punishment,
• 2:18:02
  but I am a little bit
• 2:18:04
  rival Steve,
• 2:18:05
  I'm not going to lie to you.
• 2:18:07
  I am a bit
• 2:18:09
  like that.
• 2:18:11
  If we're going to talk about treason,
• 2:18:14
  had Heath taken us into the open market, the European market was
• 2:18:19
  treasonous edition.
• 2:18:20
  So the good news is apparently I am told
• 2:18:24
  that every law, act, statute, legislation, bill that was written thereafter,
• 2:18:30
  1972,
• 2:18:32
  is null and void.
• 2:18:34
  We don't actually need their rules I'm a bit of a rebel. I don't feel like we need their rules.
• 2:18:41
  Suppose you've got two toddlers in front of you, you've got two two year olds and you give one a biscuit and you give the other
• 2:18:49
  two biscuits,
• 2:18:51
  that other child will go ape. They know it's wrong, they'll scream and ab jabs, the whole thing
• 2:18:59
  because we have an innate knowing
• 2:19:01
  of wrongdoing. Most people are not bad.
• 2:19:05
  That's my belief. I agree with you. There's hell of a lot of low IQ people
• 2:19:10
  that are order followers
• 2:19:12
  that go along with this. Don't get me wrong, there's some really sadistic
• 2:19:17
  psychopathic people out there as well that really need to be put in a padded cell in my opinion.
• 2:19:25
  But actually I think if you lead the way and do good, lead by example,
• 2:19:31
  I think it could get trendy,
• 2:19:33
  if you know what I mean.
• 2:19:35
  People would follow suit.
• 2:19:38
  Unknown: I don't believe in that's right. I don't believe in government. Don't believe in driving licenses. I don't believe in having a driving test. I don't believe in anything like that because quite honestly,
• 2:19:47
  it's
• 2:19:48
  taking responsibility
• 2:19:50
  out of people. If a person can drive, let them drive.
• 2:19:54
  Why should your car be MOT ed? If it's a wreck that's a danger to other people, surely society as a whole would be down on that person.
• 2:20:01
  They would you run around looking looking with a wreck like that for?
• 2:20:05
  Things like that. And what's happening is
• 2:20:07
  governments make people irresponsible
• 2:20:09
  all the way through.
• 2:20:11
  And some of the most responsible people, when you look at it,
• 2:20:15
  came from both world wars.
• 2:20:17
  Why? Because they had less government,
• 2:20:20
  because they had to think for themselves.
• 2:20:22
  We had more government in one way and less government another way. You're on the battlefield, you gotta think for yourself to survive.
• 2:20:29
  That's it. That that's why they go for the farmers because farmers have gotta think for themselves,
• 2:20:34
  not in a selfish way because
• 2:20:36
  and that's why,
• 2:20:38
  look what happened with the yellow vest, they were mainly French farmers,
• 2:20:42
  and they are free thinkers.
• 2:20:44
  That's why they they they're down on the farmers all the time. They're trying to destroy them. That's what what communist go for the farmers every time without a foul.
• 2:20:52
  So that's my 5. That's my 10p worth. Yeah. Sorry, Alice. Bolshevik. Carry on. No. Don't be sorry, Eric. Bolshevik revolution
• 2:21:00
  Unknown: always attacked the farmers first.
• 2:21:02
  Actually, it's our responsibility
• 2:21:04
  if we don't want to be hungry, and I certainly don't. And I know Paul doesn't because he loves his We've
• 2:21:12
  got to buy direct and we've got to cut out the dirty supermarket.
• 2:21:16
  I'm a child that was born in the 70s,
• 2:21:19
  mom and dad bought from farm shops,
• 2:21:22
  and then in the 70s the Tesco popped up
• 2:21:25
  in the village and it ruined
• 2:21:28
  everything.
• 2:21:29
  It ruined everything after.
• 2:21:32
  So
• 2:21:33
  yeah. Yeah.
• 2:21:36
  Unknown: Don't I think, Alice, everybody's
• 2:21:38
  I think people need to do what they feel they can do, whatever it is. It's it's a bit like,
• 2:21:45
  you know, if you tell people that that we should be doing this and we should be doing that, in nearly all cases, you're gonna be right. There's loads of shoulds
• 2:21:51
  that are not getting done or that are beginning to get done and we need to get a wriggle on, I do think.
• 2:21:57
  But people have got different sort of skill sets, and it's down to individuals to identify what they're good at and be courageous enough to start doing it. Courageous is maybe over egging it, but to at least have the gumption to start doing things.
• 2:22:10
  But I think what, you know, what you're saying just then, Eric, as well about the farmers and about independent thinking,
• 2:22:16
  we live in a society where that has been reduced intentionally,
• 2:22:20
  you know, to create a kind of drone mess, a drone culture,
• 2:22:24
  which is more compliant and is still hanging on to some perceived idea about this nation,
• 2:22:30
  which is not real anymore.
• 2:22:32
  It's not like that. It's like we're still being taught that we're all privileged and everything. Are we? Really? Privileged what? To pay all the tax
• 2:22:39
  for people to actually consume more stuff and to not be included in the communications
• 2:22:44
  process, to be denied that, to have no seat at the table. Not that you want to sit down with these people. Good grief. I won't wish that upon anybody. But the whole process is
• 2:22:55
  has been incrementally
• 2:22:57
  adjusted so that we're denied a voice.
• 2:22:59
  And now here we are having voices in spaces like this, and we're not the only one, obviously. There's loads of them going off all over the place.
• 2:23:06
  And, because push is coming to shove, The heat's going up in the kitchen, and people are going, this is
• 2:23:12
  you know? And I am slightly,
• 2:23:14
  suspicious of these events,
• 2:23:17
  not because I don't think that they're genuine, but because they seem to fall so convenient into the hands of the agitating class that's in charge of us to use it for their own particular ends, which are are bad.
• 2:23:29
  They're
• 2:23:30
  not focused on our welfare.
• 2:23:32
  I think that's obvious. That's of no importance to them whatsoever.
• 2:23:36
  That that, as Ian was saying, they're only concerned about their own welfare. There's nothing original in that, and I'm sure many of you thought it as well, but it's true.
• 2:23:45
  I think people should find out what they're good at and do it. And it's a matter of it's not so much a matter of spending less time on the computer,
• 2:23:52
  although that's probably true for all of us, but it's a matter of actually including looking at constructive things you can do with your neighbors. And, of course, it might be desperately
• 2:24:00
  disappointing because you might not have a good crew around you that are actually,
• 2:24:05
  you know, clued in to what's actually taking place. But that's gonna get easier simply because, if easy is the right word,
• 2:24:13
  because people are becoming aware whether they want to or not. And I think they they basically don't want to. I don't blame them because it is appalling,
• 2:24:21
  know, and we'd run out of adjectives to describe it, but it's not a good situation that we find ourselves in. But we have been led here slowly and petted all the way and been entertained to death
• 2:24:32
  along the way so that people have not paid attention to these sorts of things. But they're doing it now, and that we're doing it with some speed, so we must
• 2:24:39
  try and breed our own encouragement, I think, internally, all that kind of stuff. It's great that you called in, Alice. It's lovely.
• 2:24:45
  Unknown: Think it's great. I think it's gorgeous that you called in, actually. Thank you. I think the television I don't have one, by the way but
• 2:24:53
  media is helping us, helping people wake up. I speak to a lot of people in my village
• 2:25:00
  they all know that something is wrong. And I
• 2:25:04
  educate them, I use the word loosely,
• 2:25:07
  but I tell them what is going on. I ask questions
• 2:25:12
  and they all know something's wrong.
• 2:25:14
  And I do have a good crowd around me except
• 2:25:17
  the one set of neighbours next door which we won't talk about.
• 2:25:23
  There was a comment on Facebook or somewhere the other day about, Oh, you English, colonize, blah blah blah, and it's like,
• 2:25:32
  I didn't. My ancestors just did not colonize. It was a group of small people
• 2:25:38
  that did that.
• 2:25:40
  You can't keep using the old, same tired
• 2:25:44
  excuses.
• 2:25:45
  So
• 2:25:46
  we did this, we did that, so
• 2:25:49
  you will run here to our country. It makes no sense though.
• 2:25:53
  Yeah, everyone can see through it and I'm awfully glad they can.
• 2:25:58
  Anyway, chaps,
• 2:26:00
  I'm popping off now.
• 2:26:03
  Unknown: Alice, it's been great to have you on. Should feel free to call you. Yeah, it's great. It's lovely. The voice behind the pithy comments. They're very cheeky, and I like them a lot. They're great. So keep them up. And you're welcome on here anytime you get the urge. That goes to everybody that's listening as well. You're welcome on here. It's really part of it, I think. So it's wonderful to have it happen, and I'm glad you sort of
• 2:26:23
  Unknown: yeah. It's great, Alice. Stick to what I'm good at, so that's what I'll do.
• 2:26:28
  Unknown: Brilliant. Bye. Lots of love, Alice. Fantastic. Thank you for calling and looking forward to speaking to you again next time around. Cheers. Yeah. Bye now.
• 2:26:36
  Alice, who was quite gorgeous there, I thought, Eric. Don't you think? Really? Very gorgeous. Yes. Nice nice to speak to her. What a lovely person.
• 2:26:45
  Yes. You know? Unlike unlike you and me.
• 2:26:48
  Unknown: Yes. That's right. But now I've got my new Bouffant wig, which has been the dry cleaners. I'm feeling a lot better now.
• 2:26:55
  Unknown: Yeah. You're quite, yeah, you're quite trendy. I can't get that picture out of my head. It's terrible, actually.
• 2:27:02
  It does need animating and AI ing. Anyway,
• 2:27:05
  we also have a returning voice, because not been here for a little while,
• 2:27:10
  which is Patrick, who's over in The United States Of America, somewhere in Wisconsin, I believe. I'm being all formal, Patrick. Hi. Welcome back to the show. How are you doing? No. Not too bad.
• 2:27:20
  Unknown: How about yourself? Yeah.
• 2:27:22
  Unknown: We're we're chugging along fine. We're doing okay.
• 2:27:26
  Anything interesting and wonderful happening in the cheese state? It's kinda chilly here today,
• 2:27:31
  Unknown: and we had We're some
• 2:27:33
  Unknown: not the only ones then. Yeah?
• 2:27:35
  Unknown: We're not the only ones. It was warm yesterday. It was and I was at work working in my sweatshop, and it was terrible. But now today, it was quite quite nice
• 2:27:44
  Unknown: compared to that. It's really cold here today.
• 2:27:48
  Unknown: Was it? Very cold.
• 2:27:50
  We're not the only people that talk about the weather then, or is it just that this English weather obsession's rubbing
• 2:27:56
  off on you, Patrick? Does anybody talk about the weather in America, or don't you bother? We do.
• 2:28:01
  Unknown: And some people more are obsessed with it, especially farmers and that kind of people, you know, those kind of
• 2:28:07
  folks that have to go out in it. But, yeah,
• 2:28:11
  I was enjoying that Ian Clifford.
• 2:28:14
  That's gonna be fun.
• 2:28:16
  So he's on Friday? Yeah.
• 2:28:19
  Unknown: Yeah. It start it starts a week on Friday.
• 2:28:21
  I'll try and get that document of his out. It's it's not easy to read. What document?
• 2:28:27
  It's about it's got words in it like 'usufruct',
• 2:28:31
  always interesting.
• 2:28:32
  U SU f I it's no it's it must have the same root as usury in something but it's a sort of an impolite way, that's my phraseology, of using somebody else's assets without them really knowing about it but apparently they agree to it's complex stuff.
• 2:28:48
  But the document basically tunnels into
• 2:28:51
  the forming of
• 2:28:54
  it's actually focused pretty much on the states,
• 2:28:56
  about forming corporations that are owned by foreign entities that therefore,
• 2:29:02
  can actually,
• 2:29:03
  not have the tax that's it's complex, held by the banks on their behalf. The banks can't keep it. They have to give it back
• 2:29:11
  because the banks don't report this stuff. There's some there's a lot of slack ass thievery within their system
• 2:29:18
  as that won't come as any surprise to you. So I think Ian has got,
• 2:29:24
  he's got a certain gene for that sort of stuff. He obviously enjoys tunneling into it. It's not for the in my view, it's not for the layman.
• 2:29:31
  Yeah. It's it's very challenging stuff. I had to stop after eight pages, and then I skimmed the rest of the subbeds. It's 30 pages long. He's written several other documents. What it does tell you though is that he really has studied it well. I got that impression.
• 2:29:44
  That doesn't make that that's not particularly useful comment by me because I need to get to grips with some of it.
• 2:29:50
  But, you know, I think the basics that we've addressed here really do apply. Usury is at the base of it. All these other things are key. I mean, I think he said something to me the other day, actually, in a private conversation where he was saying he said, effectively, we're just in a mass sort of tax management system.
• 2:30:07
  The tax is the thing that drives it,
• 2:30:09
  and they basically abscond with it. Yet you were the one that this whole idea, you know, we've we've had it around here. If all the countries of the world are in debt, who are they in debt? And, of course, the usual answer that I tried out until hearing Ian say this about a year back was, oh, well, they're in debt to the central banks and the private families that own it. But it turns out that in actual principle of law or mechanism,
• 2:30:32
  it's ourselves
• 2:30:33
  that are owed this money. The $37,000,000,000,000
• 2:30:36
  in America is owed back to the Americans. The £3,000,000,000,000
• 2:30:39
  or whatever it is over here is ours. We created it, and they've acted as intermediaries like butlers that have got too big for their station, but everybody believes it because they've come up with all these sort of pieces of paperwork. I've I it's the sort of thing that really would benefit from the sort of back of a fag packet presentation or little one minute videos. This is what's happened. Yeah. If you got that bit, yeah, it needs tons of them to build a picture up.
• 2:31:04
  But I'm looking forward to hearing him do stuff. I mean, he's got a thing called the old souls of England and several other things,
• 2:31:11
  and he's definitely had flak, which I as I've said before, to me is a positive sign. I could be proved to be wrong in that regard, but I don't think so because it means they're over the target.
• 2:31:21
  And historically, people have got it in the neck that have been demonized, when you start to look in, you find out that the demonizers
• 2:31:28
  are the real demons in nearly nine 90% of the case. It's them.
• 2:31:34
  You know, they're basically holding people up in public, ridiculing them, and undermining them through
• 2:31:39
  the considerable forces and power that they have because everybody on their team gets paid.
• 2:31:46
  That's
• 2:31:47
  you know, it's it's basic sort of stuff. It's
• 2:31:51
  Unknown: Yeah. I mean, it's good. Yeah. I'm looking forward to to
• 2:31:54
  calling in and talking to him one of these days because that that is right up my alley too. I like I like this sort of thing that he's he's talking about. And I was just looking up Yusufruct,
• 2:32:06
  Unknown: and the AI just kept going and going and going. So it's just Yeah. There's something to it. We'll talk about that next week. You'll need a week to study it, but it's I think there's a whole section in there about it's about yeah. It's a it's a deception like everything else. It's an assumed control of something,
• 2:32:23
  of your asset,
• 2:32:25
  and they the intermediary ends up using it. Apparently, you know about this, but you don't in actuality. You know? It's another one of these sort of ignorance systems.
• 2:32:35
  You know? I I I still think, you know, finding ways to boil it down to get the layman to get it is worthwhile. It's obviously a job I've gotta do because it's just that I've gotta be in my bonnet about it because I think it can be done.
• 2:32:48
  Certainly, you know, in terms of all the incredibly interesting banking books that I've read I've read,
• 2:32:53
  That's always been a thought, you know, and I mentioned it here before. If you're a reader and a studier, you've got to stop every now and again and go, hey, I'm the only one that's doing this.
• 2:33:02
  Or I'm, you know, there's a handful of us. Like Ian said, there's so few people
• 2:33:06
  in the world, even those involved that are getting paid tons,
• 2:33:10
  know how it works.
• 2:33:11
  They just don't know. They don't care, do they? Because they've all got yachts or something, and that's what it's all about. They're just like big kids. They're not engineers,
• 2:33:19
  And I do come back to this. It's engineers that are needed. This is the engineering paper system. This is how it's abused. This is the fault in it. It looks as though Ian has identified things like that. That's what he's done. And you'll certainly get that impression from reading through the document even if you might not get all the fine detail of it. But it I think it also you form a corporation. Where did he say?
• 2:33:40
  I don't know. And the tax office in Cincinnati apparently is like a firewall for their system. It specializes in
• 2:33:47
  Cincinnati. Aspect of the, yep, Cincinnati,
• 2:33:50
  particularly that one.
• 2:33:53
  And it's important here. Also, the other thing that we didn't mention when he he's talked about that date, June 4. Is it 1933?
• 2:34:00
  There they are with their bloody numbers again. This '33 thing crops up everywhere, so that's obviously the reason why they picked that year to kick it all off.
• 2:34:08
  But,
• 2:34:09
  I mean, I think the knowledge with you and say with Paul that The US was or the whole system is is bankrupt since 1933. That's not news to us.
• 2:34:19
  And these are just words. It's how does it affect the man in the street? Well, it basically means that, you know, we've we are treated like tax paying cattle,
• 2:34:27
  and
• 2:34:28
  maybe knowledge can can overcome it. But I think only part of the system. I think only part of it.
• 2:34:34
  I mean, on on another side, I'm just going on a bit here, but,
• 2:34:38
  BSV,
• 2:34:39
  which, Gary comes on and talks about every now and again, and they'll be here soon. Actually, just to let you know, I spoke to Gary the other day. Do a show with him on Mondays here on FFT for an hour.
• 2:34:48
  If you're not into looking at crypto, that's cool. I listened to that. Problem. It's good good stuff. Yeah. It's just a lot. It's a bloody fast hour. God. It just disappears. I can't believe we're just getting started. It ends. It's amazing, really. But
• 2:35:02
  he was talking about a thing called
• 2:35:05
  Treechat or something,
• 2:35:07
  a really interesting BSV social networking platform, which I got an account on, and others are looking at it. It's quite it's really interesting. Interesting.
• 2:35:15
  I've used that word again.
• 2:35:18
  This is the thing that that uses a database system that's different to the normal blockchain stuff. So BTC kinda I'm sorry, going a bit slightly technical. It goes in a line. One event follows another on a big chain. Right? This doesn't do that. It branches out like a tree, and it means it can do a million transactions a second. And I saw this interview with a guy, from the banking community said, well, he said Visa can do 65,000 a second. He said, this does a million. He said, well, that's way more than you would need. I was talking to Gary about it afterwards, and he said, no. He's not seen it right because everything's gonna go through this. Now this tree chat thing is the future of the Internet because you can publish stuff on there, and it is impossible
• 2:35:59
  to take it off.
• 2:36:01
  No one can take it off. It's really interesting. There is no centralized authority because the the blockchain technology
• 2:36:07
  doesn't require one,
• 2:36:10
  and, they're also, paying people out in BSV,
• 2:36:14
  which is the one.
• 2:36:16
  So BSV for you and me. I said we need really kiddy sort of we need kids singing it in the streets. I mean that. I'm not mucking about. It's gonna become part of sort of a culture thing. Also, I know what I was gonna tell you.
• 2:36:29
  I'm looking forward to the show with him on Monday.
• 2:36:32
  Now we do another show on tomorrow, seven till nine,
• 2:36:36
  Robin
• 2:36:37
  Hood and his merry men,
• 2:36:39
  which Gary set up, but Gary's missed the last two. He's gonna miss tomorrow's as well. He was out dancing a couple of weeks ago or something like that. I don't know.
• 2:36:47
  He's been seeing Liz Truss this week. He's had a meeting with Liz Truss. I said, oh, really interesting. So I'm looking forward to his
• 2:36:55
  his debriefing on Monday, and he can tell tell us all about it. That'll be quite interesting because he's trying to get in there with restore
• 2:37:02
  and get across to them that it's got to be BSV
• 2:37:05
  because of the architecture behind it. And I know maybe these arguments are currently not going in with everybody listening. I understand that. They're not fully in my head either, but I'm just going on instinct here.
• 2:37:15
  The the the technology behind it is the game changer.
• 2:37:19
  It's the transaction system that they can't deal with.
• 2:37:23
  Unknown: They're always trying to install what are called stablecoins,
• 2:37:27
  like Trump, for instance. They're always pushing this, and and Yeah. It's interesting. That's their stuff.
• 2:37:33
  Unknown: It's all their yeah. It's their stuff, whereas this is the original. I I'm slowly sort of putting the puzzle together in my head to get the stories. It's been Gary's world, I think, for the last five or six years, maybe longer than that. So he's really got to the nuts and bolts of the whole thing, a bit like Ian has with the current sort of use your throat kind of situation. Yeah.
• 2:37:51
  Yeah. And guys like this are needed, Absolutely vital.
• 2:37:54
  And then the intermediaries are just as vital. I I class myself as one of those. I don't wanna become a boffin about this stuff, but I do wanna find a way to actually transmit the essential benefits and why it needs to be used.
• 2:38:05
  And why they're brick I got why they're bricking it. They can't control it ever.
• 2:38:10
  It's uncontrollable.
• 2:38:11
  I accept you because, oh, well, they're gonna take the Internet down. They can't do that because they couldn't control anything then.
• 2:38:17
  So it's an won't be easy. It's not sort of like that's it. It's all done. There's gonna be a scrap, believe you me, but we need to be
• 2:38:25
  sort of fully informed and knowledgeable about what tools we use. So it'll be interesting. And I think Restore about having meetings about looking at CBDs and this, that, and the other, and he's trying to get an in there to really get that in their heads that this is this is definitely a tool that we should be using. I aren't saying it's perfect, but it's so
• 2:38:45
  less worse than what they're trying to impose on us, which is just a kind of Internet version of more fiat currency. That's all it is. That's really all it is. Yeah. And none of us really seem to know everything,
• 2:38:56
  Unknown: but it's good this network where we have people that are looking into these things in detail. Like, I've kind of been going off on the whole inheritance type thing to find out more about how that works. And I'm learning about these things called corporation
• 2:39:10
  souls,
• 2:39:12
  which S o l e. S o l e. Yeah. Exactly. And
• 2:39:16
  they act as kind of like an inheritance
• 2:39:18
  of corporations,
• 2:39:19
  like the corporation of a bishop.
• 2:39:22
  Unknown: Yeah. The bishop
• 2:39:25
  Unknown: dies or is appointed to another diocese
• 2:39:29
  and all of his assets in the church property stay with the bishop. That's a perfect example of what a corporation's soul would be. The Crown Corporation
• 2:39:37
  is another example of a corporation's soul where it's inherited,
• 2:39:43
  but you're not dealing with a person
• 2:39:45
  and a family.
• 2:39:46
  You're dealing with this corporation, this corporate entity
• 2:39:50
  that's been created by the state.
• 2:39:52
  And it's
• 2:39:53
  interesting. And then the other inheritance stuff, like earlier today, I was looking up about Lenin,
• 2:40:00
  Vladimir Lenin in
• 2:40:02
  04/27/1918
• 2:40:05
  abolished
• 2:40:07
  inheritance
• 2:40:08
  and
• 2:40:09
  wills.
• 2:40:11
  And everything, if a person died, everything went to the state
• 2:40:15
  after that point.
• 2:40:17
  Changed it in '22
• 2:40:18
  because the
• 2:40:20
  practical functioning that couldn't exist, but they tried to do that. And it's just fascinating
• 2:40:26
  when you start learning about these inheritance type systems and
• 2:40:30
  the experiments that they tried.
• 2:40:33
  And
• 2:40:34
  I think it's been the downfall of America,
• 2:40:37
  the system where they abolished the primogeniture.
• 2:40:41
  Unknown: That Well, it's definitely one of it sounds as though it's one of the major blows. I mean, there's so many when you look at it. There's so That's why we have corporations instead of families.
• 2:40:50
  Unknown: Yeah. Corporate corporate entities
• 2:40:53
  have taken the place of what where a family dynasty would have been.
• 2:40:57
  Unknown: Mhmm.
• 2:40:58
  Yeah.
• 2:40:59
  I I guess maybe these families that we refer to,
• 2:41:03
  which do exist, 13 of them apparently, there might be a few more now. I don't know.
• 2:41:08
  But they're definitely in control of something.
• 2:41:11
  There's no you know, Switzerland has got a lot to answer for, but I don't know what questions to ask. Yeah. It's the idea of good for me, but not for thee.
• 2:41:19
  Unknown: So these families that you talk of are are the ones they've got teams of lawyers, you know, like towns full of lawyers working on their behalf.
• 2:41:29
  And
• 2:41:29
  we don't have that ability.
• 2:41:32
  The labor force,
• 2:41:34
  we don't have a unity where we can get together and build a building. Say like the Amish can kind of get around it because they've got the numbers of people and they can go raise a barn in a day because you've got a number of people that know what they're doing.
• 2:41:48
  You just tell grunts what to do and they can do it.
• 2:41:52
  We don't, most people don't have that ability.
• 2:41:55
  These families that you talk about,
• 2:41:58
  we all know the Rothchilds or the Warburgs, all this kind of stuff.
• 2:42:02
  Got a system in place, it's been going for centuries,
• 2:42:05
  where they're able to keep it. The crown,
• 2:42:09
  you know, prince or king Charles
• 2:42:12
  and his family, they have it set up. Yeah. But we Yeah. The common proletariat
• 2:42:17
  peasant doesn't.
• 2:42:20
  Unknown: No. They don't. But, again, you know, I would
• 2:42:24
  all the tools are around us. We just haven't recognized them yet. I actually I mean, I just say this to myself as an encouragement thing. I've got everything I need to sort this out. So have you, dear listener. We've got everything that we need,
• 2:42:38
  but it's useless if we don't pick them up and use these things.
• 2:42:41
  And the I think the the big thing is sort of like,
• 2:42:45
  the intellectual energy for one that is required. There is some. Business so it won't be for everybody
• 2:42:51
  we just want some people you could say well given an infinite amount of time everybody's going to come to that well yeah but there's wooden box time between now and then and most of us would like to achieve something substantial with the time that we've got when we're thinking about this thing, because a very substantial negative change is gonna be imposed upon us if we don't do something. So at least that's happening.
• 2:43:11
  At least the alerts going out in people's frames, they're going, woah, on, this don't feel right. That's a start for it
• 2:43:19
  of it, you know, the whole process of of really beginning to to deal with these things. But we've got there's there's more than enough brains
• 2:43:26
  in each nation to sort it out. It's a matter of you know, they've been very good at making sure that we don't congregate, don't share information in that way. This technology has helped us immeasurably. I don't know where we would be without it. Well, this show wouldn't exist and all that kind of other stuff.
• 2:43:41
  They must have anticipated this to some degree and must have been quite sure of their ground in terms of putting sort of gatekeepers along the line as we bumbled into them and sort of, you know, dealing out their justice as it goes, so called.
• 2:43:53
  Oh, deplatforming.
• 2:43:56
  Deplatforming is a fun one. You can't be deplatformed from Trisha.
• 2:44:00
  It's not possible.
• 2:44:01
  You can't be. It hasn't got live stuff on it yet, but you can upload videos and audio and stuff like that and posting. So I'm on the I'll we'll probably do in a show in it in a few weeks time once I've actually knocked my way around it. And you might be going, bloody hell, another one, because I did. Oh god. Not on something else. However,
• 2:44:17
  this thing is a moving technological feast or famine, and we gotta pick out the best resources from time to time. So it's an amazing thing. Apparently, it's been years in the making. They've had, and it's only recently,
• 2:44:30
  like, I think
• 2:44:32
  within the last month that they've kind of pushed it out there properly. It goes like a rocket. It's so quick, and I'm going, oh, this is there's something behind this. So it's, you know, a million transactions a second? That's for payments. I don't know what this thing does,
• 2:44:47
  but it's it's on a it's effectively a decentralized distributed not known network
• 2:44:52
  running all this stuff. Gary will probably correct me. I probably said a few things wrong there technically, but it's you know, we gotta pick these this is the age that we live in, a bit like Clarkson discovering all these phenomenal sort of tools for,
• 2:45:05
  really improving the efficiency of his farm,
• 2:45:09
  you know.
• 2:45:11
  Unknown: And if we don't use these tools for our benefit, they are gonna use them for our loss. In fact, they all get us up. Or any of these other things where they've got data farms and all that kind of thing going on. And it's like, well, there are obviously,
• 2:45:26
  the bad people in charge of things and using them to target people, throw missiles at people, That that kind of stuff,
• 2:45:32
  obviously, is is evil.
• 2:45:35
  But Mhmm. It can be used for good. It's it's a tool like anything. It's it's how you use it. If you can use it for for the good of humanity, then then why not?
• 2:45:46
  Unknown: Yeah. Eric, you still with us?
• 2:45:49
  I'm still with you. Yes. Yes. Oh, that's good. I just thought, you know Because Yeah. Any data centers near you that you're aware of being built? I saw a map today that said there is, like, six sixty being built in one.
• 2:46:02
  Is there?
• 2:46:04
  Unknown: Yeah. There's a huge one, and it's it's not that far from me. And it's next to a river called the New River. So that's gonna be the watercourse is gonna be altered.
• 2:46:14
  And
• 2:46:15
  it's an eyesore,
• 2:46:17
  and it's very sinister because there's no windows in the building. They've got all these really strange things like something out of doctor who,
• 2:46:25
  like, kind of,
• 2:46:27
  how could explain, like electrical pile on type things
• 2:46:30
  with lots of technicians working on them, and they've been fitting this building out for months. So I don't know what's going in there, but it's heaving with security.
• 2:46:41
  And
• 2:46:44
  what's going on inside there, what they're fitting it out with, who knows?
• 2:46:48
  But it is a data center,
• 2:46:50
  and it belongs to Google apparently.
• 2:46:53
  So it's a it's a it's a it's a complete mystery and they got it through planning.
• 2:46:58
  How they got it through, I do not know, but, you know, as usual,
• 2:47:02
  it was Yeah.
• 2:47:03
  It was just a fiddle. But no.
• 2:47:07
  And also, it's sort of
• 2:47:10
  bright colors, bland.
• 2:47:12
  It's it's just horrible.
• 2:47:14
  Unknown: Bright brown and some other dirt. It's so ugly. Like, we have Amazon buildings that go up here, and they have to put up natural mound barriers around it so you don't have to look at That's it. Thing. Yeah. Like they do with junkyards. Plants trees. So you don't have to see the junk the junk pile. Yeah. But you see it from the river. You can't help but see it. And they're planting trees around it, things like that. But that, a couple of years ago, had cows
• 2:47:40
  Unknown: grazing
• 2:47:41
  on the field,
• 2:47:42
  and it was where they were growing things not any longer.
• 2:47:46
  That is now
• 2:47:49
  Unknown: They go where there's cheap cheap
• 2:47:51
  electricity
• 2:47:52
  too. It's
• 2:47:53
  the same with when the whole cryptocurrency
• 2:47:56
  thing was really kicking off back in 2017.
• 2:48:00
  There were people going around. I remember hearing about in Russia,
• 2:48:04
  they would go where they had a, like, a nuclear power plant and it's cheap or near a military base where the electricity is cheap and then they build these big crypto data you know, these crypto mining operations
• 2:48:18
  that just suck massive massive amounts of power.
• 2:48:22
  They do it because of the and water and everything, cooling. Yeah. Yeah. The big HVAC systems they have to put in those buildings are just tremendous monstrosities.
• 2:48:30
  Unknown: But they're destroying the countryside.
• 2:48:32
  That's the thing. They're they're they're absolutely
• 2:48:34
  destroying the whole outlook of everything. I mean, it's vile.
• 2:48:39
  It's absolutely vile.
• 2:48:41
  Unknown: Well, they're not us, Eric, are they? They're not us. They're No. It's an alien culture.
• 2:48:47
  It's completely alien to us. The whole sort of purpose that they've got. I mean, they never talk about anything that's they just talk about improving the economy or something.
• 2:48:56
  I don't care about it because it didn't improve my life. It never has. So forget that. Why don't why don't you talk about improving the life of the peasants?
• 2:49:03
  The pleasant peasants.
• 2:49:05
  Unknown: Yeah. I I bought a
• 2:49:07
  bought a copy of Eric's father's book.
• 2:49:10
  Unknown: Right.
• 2:49:11
  Unknown: A physical copy. A physical copy. Yes. Alright. Great. Yeah. I look forward to reading it. It should be Thanks, Patrick. Much appreciated.
• 2:49:20
  And, we were talking,
• 2:49:21
  we did a d day broadcast,
• 2:49:23
  Unknown: Eric and I. Mhmm. And Yeah. I caught it. I I just thought I'd give it a bit of room. I've done a lot of d day stuff and things recently, and it's not as if Eric's short of things to say on that. Is it, Eric? You're you're talking a bit about that. We were talking about saving saving private Ryan, which is about d day, and that was a Steven Spielberg movie.
• 2:49:41
  Unknown: Yeah. And tomorrow he has another movie. It's it's it's actually you could be titled D Day.
• 2:49:48
  I it's called Disclosure. Disclosure
• 2:49:50
  Unknown: Day. Yes. Yeah. That's right.
• 2:49:54
  Unknown: Oh, it's good. Anyway, at least at least he's not part of the crew, Steven Spielberg. He's an independent director who makes what he likes. Yeah. Right. You know? So Of the rage merchant class. Yes.
• 2:50:05
  Unknown: I know. It's
• 2:50:08
  Unknown: all fun. All fun and games. I have to say that I'm just encouraged by what's taking place, like with numbers and and people increasing. By the way, if you are apparently, we've got no sound on YouTube, which makes literally no sense to me whatsoever.
• 2:50:21
  So,
• 2:50:23
  but apparently not even though it says there's a couple of dozen of you over there listening. We're getting censored.
• 2:50:28
  Yeah. Maybe. I don't really talking about deplatforming,
• 2:50:31
  Unknown: that's what happens. Alright.
• 2:50:33
  Unknown: Well, there you go. Anyway, what I wanted to say to everybody is there is a chat room on FFT radio.
• 2:50:39
  It's early days for it, but you I it would be better. I would prefer it if we just did all of the stuff in house.
• 2:50:46
  Right? So, that's just me personally. We're we're making use of these
• 2:50:50
  existing platforms, but I really couldn't give a tinker's cuss about them to be quite honest. I think I actually had a chat with Graham Moore, Eric. I don't know if I told you.
• 2:51:00
  Graham was the guy I've I've actually been good.
• 2:51:03
  Yeah. Well, we had a fantastic chat. He's it was great to talk to, and we want to try and find a way of porting his show onto FFT.
• 2:51:11
  It's tricky because he's on every evening during the week, and we've got a show live practically every evening of the week now, which is just one of those things. It's sod's law. Where where can you find him? He's
• 2:51:23
  on he's currently on Rumble, so it's called the full English.
• 2:51:27
  Okay. So I told him that, obviously. I'm English,
• 2:51:30
  and, I'm Paul English, and he does the full English, and then there's mister and missus English who did that groovy disco song that Eric was bopping to last week, and that was good, and they've got more stuff going on, shout out to them, they're great and doing stuff. I got a great voice message from from mister English the other well mister and missus English were on the thing. It was very funny.
• 2:51:48
  Thanks for that if you catch this, and that was good. But it's just the connective glue,
• 2:51:53
  and,
• 2:51:55
  like I've always thought, this is nothing sort of inside. We've got so many bright, people here. It's simply a matter of finding a way to allow us to work together without everybody becoming distressed unnecessarily,
• 2:52:08
  although I suspect some of that is gonna happen.
• 2:52:11
  Or at least you should include it in your thinking that there's gonna be some challenging times down the line. But, you know, it's it just it's encouraging. It improves
• 2:52:20
  morale, which is important
• 2:52:22
  because that causes you to get out of bed and go, I can get a thing done today. Let's get a thing done, you know? But what I wanted to say was, if you could, all of you who are hearing this, if you could start to use the chat over FFT,
• 2:52:34
  that would be good. If you think it's wonky,
• 2:52:36
  and it isn't really, it's pretty good. I mean, it's got about eight, ten posts on it or something. Very good. You can yeah, it's good. What I meant by it's not as groovy as the as the things involved, I suppose, in the YouTube and Rumble things. And I know we're all creatures of habit. We've gotta break that habit. We've got to break it. And the best way to break a habit is to is to form a new one. So we've we've got a tool here. We can use it. It works pretty good. I've got it up on the screen. I haven't read any comments out. I've just been talking so much tonight. And, also, Alice came on, and that was great, and Patrick's here, and this has been good.
• 2:53:09
  I did actually have a guest lined up for the third. I didn't know there was even a chance we're only gonna two hours tonight, but it's just rolled great, I think. It's been fantastic. Yeah.
• 2:53:19
  Very good. It's a funny format, isn't it? Get the guest on for the first hour. You coming on at nine. Do you feel more refreshed, Eric, by coming on slightly later? Or Yes. Yes. I do. And I was just You're not wilting? He's very interesting, that chappy.
• 2:53:31
  I am bit yeah. After admit, because I'll up about five in the morning. It's just Wait. You've to stop it. Our body clock. Silly. Get up at seven. Yes. That's just foolish. We end up at five four.
• 2:53:41
  It's absolutely mad. I've been getting up at five past four, by the way, for an hour. The sun comes up, doesn't it? And we've got magpies.
• 2:53:49
  What what's a what's a a group of magpies called bastards? My son calls them because they always make a racket, but I don't think that's the technical term for the collective noun for magpies.
• 2:54:00
  And, god, they're bloody loud because I think the other birds are waking up, so they're attacking their children as it were. You know, they're pretty nasty birds, magpies, and they're they're having breakfast about
• 2:54:10
  four and 05:00 in the morning. So I've been getting up about four going feeling great for about ten minutes and going, no. I've gotta go back to I've got to go back and get some sleep. So,
• 2:54:20
  yeah, make it 06:00.
• 2:54:22
  You see, for 06:00, it'd be great. But Well, I like to speak early, rather. Alright.
• 2:54:27
  Well, you could do the early early breakfast show. We need you on then, don't we, from six till eight. If you're up at five, you could do six till eight on a morning. That's it. Could do. Yes. Eric's
• 2:54:37
  early breakfast. Early breakfast with Eric. That'd be great. You could do that. I'm not joining you. I'll be asleep, mate. Far so early. Yes. Yeah.
• 2:54:46
  Unknown: But
• 2:54:47
  Unknown: No. It's Yeah. It reminds me of a skit Always have got up early.
• 2:54:51
  Waking up early like that. There you were you're playing mister Rogers earlier. I don't know if you caught that. That was it. We were looking for his name. Yeah. Mister Rogers. Just telling some good decent home truths there. There was a national lampoon skit with Bill Murray. He played a bass player being interviewed by Mr. Rogers. It just reminds me because the bass player is like, he's
• 2:55:13
  talking about how he gets up late and this kind of thing. Anyway, just reminded me of that.
• 2:55:19
  Mister Rogers.
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  Rogers. Boys or boys, girls or girls.
• 2:55:23
  And that's that. I should be saying. Hang on. It's mister Rogers. There was another bloke. Was it poisoning pigeons? You were thinking of somebody else. Yeah. I forget I forget who was who the pigeons in the park person was. It's probably somebody taking piss on He died recently.
• 2:55:37
  Unknown: He
• 2:55:38
  Unknown: died Oh, Lerman. Thomas
• 2:55:40
  Lerman. Tom Lerman. That's the one. He does the brotherhood week song
• 2:55:45
  about how all the religions and people, the blacks and the whites don't get get along well.
• 2:55:51
  I don't know. It's he was he some something. It was called the brotherhood week.
• 2:55:56
  Unknown: Oh, what's happening to us? We're becoming so politically incorrect around here. It's shocking, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Shocking.
• 2:56:03
  It is?
• 2:56:04
  Why? Yeah. Well, political correctness is a Marxist nonsense, and that's why and it's worked very effectively. Shops people's brains down.
• 2:56:12
  They know what they're doing. It's just unfortunate for them now that so do we,
• 2:56:17
  and in ever increasing order. So this is good. Oh, look. It always comes in too loud. I keep meaning to throttle that down a bit.
• 2:56:24
  There we go. Hey. We're at the end. We're winding out. We're winding down here. Look. Thanks everyone for being along tonight. Thank you, Eric. Thank you, Patrick. Very much. And thank you, Paul, lurking in the background.
• 2:56:36
  Thank you, Alice, for calling in. That was great.
• 2:56:39
  Yeah. That's Oh, yeah. Paul's here. Yeah. Paul's here. And
• 2:56:44
  Alright. All of you out there, take Alice's lead. Let's have another a new
• 2:56:48
  caller next week. That would be cool. I don't know who's lined up next week. I I might have somebody interesting actually on the publishing side for next week. Talk about freedom of speech and publishing and a few things like that.
• 2:56:59
  So,
• 2:57:00
  yeah, have a cracking week. What do you need to tune into? Eric's on on Sunday and Monday at eight till ten both evenings. Thank you very much. Tune in for that. Fuck them. Fockham Hall.
• 2:57:10
  I'm on tomorrow with Robin Hood from seven till 09:00,
• 2:57:14
  the Merry Men,
• 2:57:16
  Friday nights. Don't know. I got roxies. This is it's terrible. He's he's great, Robin. Really good stuff.
• 2:57:22
  And then Ian starts a week on Friday at midday till 2PM, and that's about it. Anyway, get it all at FFT Radio. We'll see you all next week, everybody. Bye for Thank you very much. Good night.
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  Night. Night.
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  Night.
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  Unknown: Blasting the voice of freedom worldwide,
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  you're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.
• 2:57:45
  Unknown: Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.