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Full Show Podcast: 28 November 2024 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the inside Ryan Bridge New
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  Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four on the early edition with Smith City,
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  Speaker 1: New Zealand's furniture vans and a play a store. News Talks, he'd.
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  Speaker 2: Be good morning, welcome to your Thursday, just gone six
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  Speaker 2: after five. On News Talks, there'd be Nichola Willis, the
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  Speaker 2: Finance Minister with us just before six this morning on
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  Speaker 2: the OCR Can we stop talking about the OCR now,
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  Speaker 2: maybe start talking about growth? Will do that with her
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  Speaker 2: also this morning, Matthew Haig. He's a lawyer who defended
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  Speaker 2: people who didn't want the COVID jab And there's the
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  Speaker 2: COVID report being presented, the first of the COVID inquiry
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  Speaker 2: reports being presented to the government today. We'll talk about that. Also.
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  Speaker 2: Arsenic in your drinking water apparently not as bad as
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  Speaker 2: it sounds. Does sound bad though, Mitch McCann out of the.
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  Speaker 3: US the agenda.
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  Speaker 2: It is Thursday, the twenty age of November. The Israel
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  Speaker 2: has will to cease fire holding twelve hours in. Some
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  Speaker 2: people now returning to their homes too.
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  Speaker 4: Almost immediately after this, sayisfire caming to In fact, thousands
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  Speaker 4: of people have started the journey Del sal and this
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  Speaker 4: has been the case for hours year. There is a
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  Speaker 4: massive traffic jam here with you families trying to go
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  Speaker 4: back to towns and villages in the south of the country.
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  Speaker 2: Israel started to stage withdrawal from southern Lebanon. Obviously, people
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  Speaker 2: are a bit worried, particularly in Israel, to go north
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  Speaker 2: to the border and continue living there like nothing happened.
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  Speaker 2: The ICC has been busy. The Criminal Court says it's
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  Speaker 2: requested and arrest warrant for the head of Mian Mars military.
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  Speaker 2: He's accused of crimes against humanity committed against the Rahinga Muslims,
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  Speaker 2: thousands of whom fled the country seven years ago, and
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  Speaker 2: what the UMAN has called a genocide campaign by the military.
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  Speaker 2: Three US nationals have been released from prison and China
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  Speaker 2: after a prisoner swat between the countries. A UK journalist
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  Speaker 2: was detained in China for two years and he's described
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  Speaker 2: what conditions are like there.
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  Speaker 5: You start in a detention center where you sleep on
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  Speaker 5: rough wooden floorboards. There's twelve people in a cell that's
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  Speaker 5: only sixteen or seventeen square yards. The toilet as a
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  Speaker 5: hole in the corner of the room. You eat from
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  Speaker 5: doggie bowls that are pushed through the bars of the door.
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  Speaker 2: Don't get arrested. In China, protests calling for the release
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  Speaker 2: of former Pakistan Prime minister and cricket start in run
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  Speaker 2: Khan from prison have been called off. There was a crackdown.
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  Speaker 2: Five hundred people were arrested and they decided, you know what,
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  Speaker 2: we're going home.
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  Speaker 3: Get ahead of the headlines. Ryan Bridge you for twenty
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  Speaker 3: twenty four on early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's
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  Speaker 3: furniture Beds and a play at store Youth Talks.
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  Speaker 2: It'd be nine two is the numbered text. I particularly
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  Speaker 2: we've got a question for Nikola Willis, who's on the
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  Speaker 2: show before six, a pre Thanksgiving data dumps happening in
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  Speaker 2: the United States this morning. Their September quarter GDP two
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  Speaker 2: point eight percent. That's the annual figure two point eight percent. Man,
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  Speaker 2: we'd love a bit of that, wouldn't we If you
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  Speaker 2: look at a quarter on quarter, that's point seven better
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  Speaker 2: than the UK would which is zo point one better
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  Speaker 2: than the Eurozone, which is point four, motioning along as
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  Speaker 2: the US economy. And it's interesting because they're it's you know,
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  Speaker 2: they are a consumer driven economy. Basically domestic consumption is
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  Speaker 2: huge for them. And even though the results have been
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  Speaker 2: showing that they're not feeling confident, they've still been spending obviously,
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  Speaker 2: so that is good for them. Our numbers, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: do you even talk about it. I suppose it's the pain,
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  Speaker 2: it's the medicine. Isn't it for bringing down inflation? In
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  Speaker 2: New Zealand? We've had high caur interest rates and boy
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  Speaker 2: did we hike them high. Anyway, we'll have more to
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  Speaker 2: say about that later on in the show. Also the
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  Speaker 2: arsenic thing. You know, when Leo my producer raymy usay,
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  Speaker 2: he goes just letting you know that there might be
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  Speaker 2: arsenac and an unhealthy amount of arsenic and you're drinking
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  Speaker 2: water in Auckland. I said, oh god, that's terrible, because
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  Speaker 2: I drink a lot of water. I do. I have
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  Speaker 2: a I think it's more than a liter, but it's
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  Speaker 2: about a liter bottle of water, and I fill it
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  Speaker 2: up constantly from the tap. And I found myself half
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  Speaker 2: an hour after Leo had phoned me, I found myself
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  Speaker 2: drinking from it again. I just forgotten. Anyway, apparently, don't
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  Speaker 2: freak out. It's not as bad as it sounds. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: the level is above the acceptable level for human consumption,
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  Speaker 2: but we should still drink it. Okay, all right, anyway,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to talk to Steve Taylor, he's the head
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  Speaker 2: of operations at water Services at their Water Services Authority
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  Speaker 2: about that. In just a few minutes.
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  Speaker 3: News talks being Crying Bridge.
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  Speaker 2: Also, Casey Costello has put out a smoke free action plan.
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  Speaker 2: People are lambasting that left, right and center. Nine out
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  Speaker 2: of ten Kiwis consider their home to be a healthy
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  Speaker 2: place to live, even though around half of us live
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  Speaker 2: with mold. So there you go. We just don't care.
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  Speaker 2: I probably have a bit of mold in my house
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  Speaker 2: and I don't really care, so that makes sense. Eleven
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  Speaker 2: after five, I've found my mind seeing a saying it's
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  Speaker 2: been a world and I'm finding.
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  Speaker 3: Marvey News and Views you trust to start your day.
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  Speaker 3: It's early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New
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  Speaker 3: Zealand's furniture beds and a flying Store.
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  Speaker 2: News Talk ZIB thirteen after five News Talks ZIB nine
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  Speaker 2: nine two the number text. The Water Services Authority has
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  Speaker 2: been notified of increased levels of arsenic in the Waikata River,
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  Speaker 2: which feeds into the Auckland and Hamilton water supply. The
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  Speaker 2: agency says there is no health risk in drinking the water,
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  Speaker 2: but the maximum acceptable value for arsenic is zero point
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  Speaker 2: zero one milligrams eliter, an incredibly low amount apparently, but
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  Speaker 2: they have seen levels between zero points zero one one
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  Speaker 2: milligram and zero point zero one five milligrams, which is
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  Speaker 2: quote marginally above the acceptable value for drinking water. Steve
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  Speaker 2: Taylor is the head of operations at Water Services Authority
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  Speaker 2: needs with us this morning, Steve, Good morninglcome to the show, Steve.
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  Speaker 2: Can you hear me? Okay?
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  Speaker 6: I can, Yes, I've.
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  Speaker 2: Got you here, I've got you got. Have you had
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  Speaker 2: any new results in overnight since since you last spoke.
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  Speaker 6: No, I haven't. There's been a number of samples that
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  Speaker 6: were taken yesterday just to confirm what those levels are
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  Speaker 6: in fact, that there's been any decrease as a result
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  Speaker 6: of the actions that water Care has taken over the
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  Speaker 6: last few hours. That are expecting those results this morning?
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  Speaker 2: What time this morning?
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  Speaker 6: Well, I have to laboratory, but I understand they've been
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  Speaker 6: prioritized with haste, so we'd expect setos are available.
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  Speaker 2: How can you say that it's safe to drink even
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  Speaker 2: though it's above the acceptable value? For drinking.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, acceptable value for a drinking water is designed for
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  Speaker 6: long term exposure. So in other words, that someone who's
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  Speaker 6: drinking amount of water over forty to fifty years, we
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  Speaker 6: might expect to see some health effects starts up here
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  Speaker 6: after forty or fifty years. So prolonged extensive drinking at
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  Speaker 6: levels above the makes them acceptable value. What we've got
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  Speaker 6: here is a marginal increase above acceptable value that would
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  Speaker 6: expect to see reduced over the coming days.
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  Speaker 2: When did you so, how long is it? When did
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  Speaker 2: you first find out about the result?
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  Speaker 6: So we found out about these results yesterday yesterday morning.
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  Speaker 6: Bear in mind that the White at River naturally has
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  Speaker 6: underlying levels of arsenic aner, and the treatment plants for
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  Speaker 6: both Auckland City and Hamilton City do that arsenic, So
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  Speaker 6: they removed the arthenic before it's put into the drinking water.
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  Speaker 6: That's an important part of their treatment. And we know
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  Speaker 6: from what these activities. Immediately after receiving these notifications, they
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  Speaker 6: are changing their treatment. It says to excellent ensure and
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  Speaker 6: increased levels off that arsenic garagon removed from the water.
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  Speaker 2: So did both you as a regulator and water care
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  Speaker 2: both only found out about this yesterday. Yes, that's great,
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  Speaker 2: but because Hamilton City Council said that they testing during
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  Speaker 2: a stage at the treatment process on the nineteenth and
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  Speaker 2: twentieth of November, recorded results that were elevated.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, so where were the results within the river itself?
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  Speaker 6: So this is before the point of treatment can vary?
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  Speaker 6: So we were notified. I'm just what data today Thursday?
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  Speaker 6: On Thursday morning that there were levels within the point
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  Speaker 6: network in Hamilton or above the acceptable valley and at
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  Speaker 6: that point that's when we've requested an ongoing action.
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  Speaker 2: You so you found out actually a week ago that
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  Speaker 2: there were elevated levels of arsenic in the river and.
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  Speaker 6: You are saying that we were notified on the twenty seventh,
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  Speaker 6: so that's the last night.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, So why is it so Hamilton City Council noted
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  Speaker 2: that they had elevated levels on the nineteenth and twentieth
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  Speaker 2: of November. That's a week ago, right, So why weren't
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  Speaker 2: you told?
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  Speaker 6: I can't comment on that. We'd expect to be notified
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  Speaker 6: with any increase and levels above the math and there's
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  Speaker 6: a requirement that we are notified of those results.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So if you weren't, what do you do about it?
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  Speaker 6: And so I'll be flying out with Hamilton to check
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  Speaker 6: what the results were. They're telling of those results. Again,
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  Speaker 6: if it's a spike and the source where we should
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  Speaker 6: have been notified about that, it's possible that that was
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  Speaker 6: an issue that's been managed through as part of their
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  Speaker 6: treatment process. But again it's important that we do receive
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  Speaker 6: notice of the results so that we can ensure that
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  Speaker 6: supplies are actually taking the appropriate action.
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  Speaker 2: When you say how when you say water Care is
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  Speaker 2: changing or rejigging the way that it processes the water,
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  Speaker 2: what exactly does that mean and why aren't we doing
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  Speaker 2: that already? Yeah?
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  Speaker 6: So what it Care has got the ability as part
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  Speaker 6: of its natural treatment of water to turn it on
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  Speaker 6: different treatment plants as part of its day to day operations.
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  Speaker 6: So it has the ability that it can reduce the
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  Speaker 6: intake from its white Cato treatment and increase the amount
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  Speaker 6: of that's being supplied from its dams and other sources.
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  Speaker 6: So it's switched that process on. What it means is
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  Speaker 6: the water that is coming through the Waitekato treatment plant
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  Speaker 6: is slowed down, which means the ability for those filters
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  Speaker 6: to remove the arthics increase of so the slow the
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  Speaker 6: water moves through those filters, the more efficient in the process,
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  Speaker 6: is all.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Steve, you can guarantee as one hundred there'll be
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  Speaker 2: no ill health effects from this, nothing for pregnant women,
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  Speaker 2: nothing for the elderly, nothing like that.
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  Speaker 6: So we're confident that these levels are safe to drink,
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  Speaker 6: but would expect both Hamilton and Watercare to be acting
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  Speaker 6: prorectively just to reduce any risk.
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  Speaker 2: Steve. Thanks for your time this morning, Steve Taylor, head
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  Speaker 2: of Operations at the Water Services Authority. It's nineteen after
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  Speaker 2: five Newstalk, said.
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  Speaker 3: B Ryan Bridge, new for twenty twenty four on early
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  Speaker 3: edition with Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Beds and a
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  Speaker 2: It is twenty one after five Newstalk, said b The
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  Speaker 2: head of the COVID nineteen inquiry says vaccine mandates caused
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  Speaker 2: huge pain to a substantial minority during the pandemic and
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  Speaker 2: the government should consider where the benefits outweigh the harms. Well,
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  Speaker 2: God have told you that for nothing. Today, Professor Tony
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  Speaker 2: Blakeley hands over the first phase of the inquiry to
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  Speaker 2: the Internal Affairs Minster Brook van Valden. He says the
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  Speaker 2: damage to social cohesion needs to be concer did before
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  Speaker 2: planning for future outbreaks. Matthew Haig was a lawyer who
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  Speaker 2: defended a New Zealand Defense Force personnel who didn't want
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  Speaker 2: to get the COVID JAB when it was mandatory. He's
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  Speaker 2: with us this morning, Matthew, Good morning the boarding run.
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  Speaker 2: I'll go through the exact comments in just a second,
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  Speaker 2: but what's your your brief reaction to that?
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  Speaker 7: My action is in some way it does state the obvious.
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  Speaker 7: The sleucial parson me wonders if the little adverse comment
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  Speaker 7: that Blakeley and their commission does make is a way
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  Speaker 7: to pre emp the second inquiry that's to be headed
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  Speaker 7: by different commissioners.
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  Speaker 2: What you think the second one might have gone harder
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  Speaker 2: and they're preempting it.
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  Speaker 7: I think so.
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 7: There's been widespread criticism of Professor Blakeley, who is an
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  Speaker 7: epidemiologist who gave direct advice to key government decision makers
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  Speaker 7: throughout the pandemic, including doctor Bluefield. Isn't seem to be impartial,
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  Speaker 7: and I wonder if the adverss comment, which really they
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  Speaker 7: have no choice start to make, is that way to
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  Speaker 7: pree the second inquorry.
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  Speaker 2: Is there anything legally that can be. I mean, once
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  Speaker 2: this report comes out, can it form the basis of
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  Speaker 2: any kind of further legal challenges.
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  Speaker 7: No, not directly, although I think whatever coming and evidence
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  Speaker 7: they do present it might be helpful for even challenges
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  Speaker 7: that are ongoing today. In twenty twenty four, we're still
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  Speaker 7: wasteful a Supreme Court decision, there's still cases before the
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  Speaker 7: Employment Relations Authority, there are still mandates now for New Zealand.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's true. How do you think the people
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  Speaker 2: who you represented will feel reading what's out in the
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  Speaker 2: Herald this morning?
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  Speaker 7: Fatigue and I'm surprised.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks so much for your time. Great to have you
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  Speaker 2: on the show. Matthew Matthew Hagen, lawyer who defended a
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  Speaker 2: client who didn't want the COVID JAB but was forced
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  Speaker 2: to get it anyway. Twenty four minutes after that report,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, is going to the government today and
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  Speaker 2: we don't know when it will see the light of day.
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  Speaker 2: I'll just read a couple of words from it here.
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  Speaker 2: This is from Professor Blakeley. He's the epidemiologist for the
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  Speaker 2: first phase of the Royal Commission into COVID and that
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  Speaker 2: is an incredibly import lesson out of the pandemic. When
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  Speaker 2: you're doing these types of mandatory things like mandatory vaccination,
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  Speaker 2: they really need to be in a context where the
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  Speaker 2: benefits far outweigh the harms. Mandates were justified for frontline
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  Speaker 2: healthcare workers, border officials, and high risk places like prisons,
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  Speaker 2: But he says, as far as it's reached beyond that,
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  Speaker 2: I think we have all learned that has to be
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  Speaker 2: done very cautiously, even if the majority of the population
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  Speaker 2: are of the view that it should be happening.
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  Speaker 3: The early edition Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by
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  Speaker 2: News Talks said, b The US economy is just humming
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  Speaker 2: along at the moment, isn't it. Two point eight percent?
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  Speaker 2: As I mentioned earlier in the program, two point eight
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  Speaker 2: percent is their lucky number. This morning, two point eight
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  Speaker 2: percent annualized GDP for the September quarter, better than the Eurozone,
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  Speaker 2: better than the UK, much better than US. We're still
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  Speaker 2: going backwards. Twenty twenty four has basically been a write off.
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  Speaker 2: When we went balls to the wall with interest rate
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  Speaker 2: hikes post COVID, and we were the first out the
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  Speaker 2: gate to do it as well. We've held higher for longer,
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  Speaker 2: and the hangover is hitting like a forty ounces Smirnoff
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  Speaker 2: in the morning. It's not pretty, is it. Sure the
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  Speaker 2: rates are coming down, we saw more of that yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: but boy, the mess that that wrecking ball has left behind.
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  Speaker 2: What's interesting about the Americans, even though their consumer confidence
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  Speaker 2: was low as ours has been as well, they would
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  Speaker 2: still go out and use the credit card to buy stuff.
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  Speaker 2: In other words, the sentiment there didn't match the reality,
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  Speaker 2: which is what we're seeing in the GDP number that's
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  Speaker 2: been announced this morning, which we should and do envy.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, they're a country that's run on domestic consumption.
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  Speaker 2: We run on trade, and we haven't been helped by
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  Speaker 2: the likes of China where there's been the slow down, Europe, etc.
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  Speaker 2: They are the markets that we must sell to to
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  Speaker 2: make a buck. But there is a question here for
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  Speaker 2: Nikola willis now that inflation is beat, how much further
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  Speaker 2: will you go with the bell tightening? Is a return
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  Speaker 2: to surplus at all costs, at any costs? Worth it?
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  Speaker 2: She's repeatedly said, not How much? Does she mean that?
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  Speaker 2: I guess we'll find out when we get the HAYFU
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  Speaker 2: numbers for December on the seventeenth, or when the minister
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  Speaker 2: comes on the show in twenty minutes. We'll ask you
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  Speaker 2: then too. Twenty eight minutes after five Bridge Brich, lots
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  Speaker 2: of people are unsurprisingly texting and about the mandates on COVID. Ryan.
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  Speaker 2: The only people who benefited from the terrible lockdowns were
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  Speaker 2: the out of control labor government. Well that's true. Look
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  Speaker 2: at their election result in twenty twenty and yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: mean you can imagine the type of feedback we're getting.
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  Speaker 2: And was it necessary for us to do the whole
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  Speaker 2: mandates on every you know, did your barista need a mandate?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it seems mad looking back on it now,
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  Speaker 2: doesn't it. It seems absolutely insane. Hey, Casey Costello, speaking of insane,
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  Speaker 2: this idea that we're not not Casey Costello, but this
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  Speaker 2: idea that we will stop everyone from smoking. And there's
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  Speaker 2: a smoking plan twenty twenty five. You know, we're at
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  Speaker 2: sixteen percent smokers. Now we're six point nine. Honestly, if
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  Speaker 2: you want to smoke, filled your boots, just make sure.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I'm not encouraging you to smoke, but if
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  Speaker 2: you do smoke, just make sure that the tax covers
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  Speaker 2: the health costs of doing so. Everyone's an adult We're
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  Speaker 2: never going to stop everyone from doing everything bad? Are we?
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  Speaker 2: News is next.
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  Speaker 3: The news you need this morning and the in depth
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  Speaker 3: analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New
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  Speaker 2: Good Morning, New Zealand, twenty four minutes away from six
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  Speaker 2: year on News Talks. They'd be welcome to your Thursday morning.
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  Speaker 2: Nikola Willis the Finance Minister with us just before six
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  Speaker 2: this morning. We're also going stateside with Mitch McCann. Lots
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  Speaker 2: to get through a bit very quickly. This is one
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  Speaker 2: that's not very important, but there's a guy in South
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  Speaker 2: Korea who has been convicted because he was trying to
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  Speaker 2: get out of the military draft. You know, they have
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  Speaker 2: to do about eighteen months service over in South Korea
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  Speaker 2: because obviously they live next door to North Korea. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: he didn't want to do it, so instead of you know,
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  Speaker 2: making up some excuse or whatever, he ate. He became obese.
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  Speaker 2: He binge ate to the point where he was able
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  Speaker 2: to dodge the military draft. And he's been convicted of
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  Speaker 2: doing this. So he weighed into one hundred and two
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: kilograms with a BMI classified as obese six years after
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: he was deemed fit to serve following an initial physical exam.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: So he just spent six years eating. He doubled his
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: meal portions, he didn't do any physical exercise. He drank
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: large amounts of water right before the measurements to deliberately
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: increase his weight. Anyway, he's he's not going to war.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: He's just huge. It is twenty two minutes oh before
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: we get to our reporters. This is Kamala Harris, who
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: lost the elections. He's been holidaying in Hawaii. Obviously he
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: has some time to reflect. She's released a video to
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: her supporters and people are like, what is this.
• 19:27
  Speaker 7: I know this is an uncertain time.
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: I'm clear eyed about that. I know you're clear eyed
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: about it. And it feels heavy.
• 19:35
  Speaker 8: But as you've heard me say many times, hard work
• 19:38
  Speaker 8: can be joyful work.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Ryan Bridge see was that He's got to go to
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: our reporters around the country. He will make a lot
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: more sense. Calm Proctor is in Dunedin this morning. Calum
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: a coroner there has ruled an inquiry won't be opened
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: into the one helicopter crash that claimed three lives. Yea morning, Ryan,
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: this comes after my suple.
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  Speaker 9: Investigations have already established the circumstances of this crash and
• 20:04
  Speaker 9: identified also safety recommendations. It was back in twenty eighteen
• 20:09
  Speaker 9: when pilot Nicholas Wallace and dock workers Scott Theobald and
• 20:11
  Speaker 9: Paul Hondelink were killed when their helicopter suffered a failure
• 20:15
  Speaker 9: shortly after take off from Wanacare Aerodrome. The Transport Accident
• 20:19
  Speaker 9: Investigation Commission found the left rear door likely opened unexpectedly
• 20:24
  Speaker 9: due to wear in the latch mechanism. It says the
• 20:26
  Speaker 9: underreporting of doors opening in flights was a factor. The
• 20:30
  Speaker 9: coroner here in this case has confirmed no more inquiries
• 20:34
  Speaker 9: will be opened, citing the thoroughness of existing investigations.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: All right, how's your wear the callum?
• 20:39
  Speaker 9: We've got all west gusts today a wind warning gusts
• 20:41
  Speaker 9: of up to eighty k's then a cold cell west
• 20:44
  Speaker 9: change comes before that though the high twenty seven today.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Clear than christ Church clear, Good
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: morning to you. You've got an update on the mothboard,
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: christ Church Cathedral and Christmas.
• 20:54
  Speaker 8: Yes, well, the christ Church Cathedral restoration may have been mothballed,
• 20:57
  Speaker 8: as you say, Ryan, but that hasn't stopped the Reins
• 21:00
  Speaker 8: Statement project from getting into the Christmas spirit. A twelve
• 21:03
  Speaker 8: Days of Christmas event is on the cards. It's basically
• 21:06
  Speaker 8: an opportunity for people to pay twenty five dollars for
• 21:09
  Speaker 8: a ticket to get inside the currently strengthened but incomplete cathedral.
• 21:14
  Speaker 8: There's a ten meter steal Christmas tree they'll see inside.
• 21:17
  Speaker 8: The cathedral's public opening and tree constructions all being done
• 21:20
  Speaker 8: at no cost, and the proceeds from the tickets will
• 21:23
  Speaker 8: go towards the City Mission. Christ Church Dean Ben Truman
• 21:26
  Speaker 8: says this event will mean a lot to people. He
• 21:28
  Speaker 8: says having the City Mission Tree bank inside the cathedral
• 21:32
  Speaker 8: brings back a cherished tradition.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Well that's nice. How's your weather?
• 21:37
  Speaker 8: A warm one for the cricket at Hagley today. Mainly
• 21:39
  Speaker 8: find a bit of increase in cloud northwesterly strong this afternoon,
• 21:43
  Speaker 8: the high though twenty eight.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: All right, enjoy that clear and maxis and willing to max.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: You've got a new live music venue hoping to kick
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: things off in the capitol.
• 21:52
  Speaker 10: Yeah, this is from the people who run Miaoba, which
• 21:56
  Speaker 10: hosts smaller acts in the CBD. They've opened a new
• 22:00
  Speaker 10: one thousand person venue called Miao Nui, which is quite
• 22:03
  Speaker 10: an impressive new concert hall essentially designed for the more
• 22:07
  Speaker 10: sort of mid scale bands. Acts more comfortable. Certainly it
• 22:12
  Speaker 10: looks than the likes of the original Miao San Fran
• 22:15
  Speaker 10: Bar on Cuba Street Valhalla, which can all be a
• 22:18
  Speaker 10: little claustrophobic and sweaty. These people have taken the old
• 22:21
  Speaker 10: Salvation Army Church Hall on Vivian Street opened it up.
• 22:25
  Speaker 10: Minui officially opens tomorrow. They have gigs already planned. They
• 22:29
  Speaker 10: believe Wellington's been crying out for a mid size venue
• 22:32
  Speaker 10: like this. They naturally fought the council on a couple issues,
• 22:36
  Speaker 10: got there in the end a bit too much government
• 22:38
  Speaker 10: red tape, they say. As well. They have already had
• 22:40
  Speaker 10: a sort of testa opening night hosting the National book
• 22:44
  Speaker 10: tour of someone called Paddy Gower. Not quite sure who
• 22:47
  Speaker 10: that is.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Though, Oh it sounds terrible, sounds awful. It's a music venue,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: by the way, Pewick Petty counts sing, I've heard them try. Hey,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: how's the weather today?
• 23:00
  Speaker 10: I'd never say no, partly cloudly, stronger, northern east eighteen
• 23:03
  Speaker 10: the high central awesome.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Thank you. Neva in Auckland Hey, Neva, good morning, good morning.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Oh would you like a glass of water?
• 23:10
  Speaker 11: Oh?
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Water?
• 23:10
  Speaker 12: Oh, let's test it has. That's outrage people, hasn't it?
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: What?
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Well? It has? But apparently it's all fine.
• 23:17
  Speaker 12: That's right, it is.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: It is fine, So drink away. Yeah, but be careful
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: how much you're paying on your public transport?
• 23:23
  Speaker 12: Oh outrage? Outrage. So Aucklanders could be paying much more
• 23:27
  Speaker 12: for public transport and future so nztas asked all the
• 23:30
  Speaker 12: local public transport authorities this came out yesterday to increase
• 23:34
  Speaker 12: their private chair revenue. This is to meet targets in
• 23:36
  Speaker 12: the coming years. Now, simeon brown Sey's authorities. They have
• 23:39
  Speaker 12: a range of options including you can you know, up
• 23:42
  Speaker 12: the aired revenue, lowering operating costs, or raising fares. Now
• 23:47
  Speaker 12: Greater Auckland director Matt Lowery ses, based on Auckland's targets,
• 23:51
  Speaker 12: fears could increase, could increase. Now this is between fifty
• 23:55
  Speaker 12: and sixty percent. So what does that mean when he
• 23:58
  Speaker 12: says if this does happen, there's going to obviously fewer
• 24:00
  Speaker 12: people using public transport services will likely be cut more
• 24:03
  Speaker 12: people will have no choice but to drive. What a cluster.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: It is a bit of a cluster, especially when you
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: look at I mean, same thing's happening in Wellington where
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: they live, and it could go up seventy seventy of
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: that's right, your worst case scenario. That is exactly your
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: load of money. I mean, if you're commuting on a
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: train from there's a woman going from Masterton to Wellington
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: costed thirty five bucks a day. It could cost just
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: sixty bucks.
• 24:24
  Speaker 12: And you know with Auckland, I mean there's always delays
• 24:26
  Speaker 12: with trains and things like that than just something if that.
• 24:29
  Speaker 12: You know, hate to be negative, but you know, let's try.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: And you know what, we spend most of our day
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: being negative, so I don't think you should apologize for it.
• 24:37
  Speaker 12: I was just thinking, is this probably an incentive and
• 24:39
  Speaker 12: a good thing. The reason why we work so early
• 24:41
  Speaker 12: in the morning because we can't take the whole thing
• 24:44
  Speaker 12: and we're boire the whole thing and we can drive
• 24:46
  Speaker 12: and we don't get caught in traffic at three in
• 24:48
  Speaker 12: the morning. How's the weather fine apart from morning cloud
• 24:50
  Speaker 12: twenty two is the high here in Auckland.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Mitch McCann Nicola willis up next News Talk.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: ZB International Correspondence with Ends and Eye insurance survined for
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: New Zealand business.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: It is fourteen away from six news talks, said b Nicola.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Willis the Finance minister standing by in the ocr right now.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Mitch McCann out of the US, Mitch, how is Donald
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Trump's transition going?
• 25:13
  Speaker 11: Good morning, Ryan, while he's.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Astration, it's going well.
• 25:20
  Speaker 11: When any new US administration takes over, Ryan, they are
• 25:23
  Speaker 11: tasked with appointing hundreds of people to important jobs in
• 25:26
  Speaker 11: the American government, and that usually means many of them
• 25:30
  Speaker 11: require vetting and background checks from the FBI. It's pretty
• 25:33
  Speaker 11: standard procedure. But as Donald Trump is said to take
• 25:36
  Speaker 11: over the White House, The Guardian is now reporting that
• 25:38
  Speaker 11: Trump's team are planning for all political appointees to receive
• 25:42
  Speaker 11: clearances on day one and only face background checks when
• 25:46
  Speaker 11: its own officials are installed in the government. It's a
• 25:49
  Speaker 11: mood that's said to receive plenty of criticism that reporting
• 25:52
  Speaker 11: is correct. As Donald Trump finishes up deciding who's going
• 25:55
  Speaker 11: to be in his cabinet.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: That's the problem when no one trusts the public institutions.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Isn't it the Arctic blast heading your way? What are
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: you doing for Thanksgiving? Much?
• 26:03
  Speaker 11: I'm having some some chicken some ham. I'm not buying
• 26:07
  Speaker 11: into that whole Turkey thing. It's too dry for me.
• 26:09
  Speaker 11: And then I'm flying back to New Zealand. But for
• 26:11
  Speaker 11: many people here in the US, it's going to be
• 26:13
  Speaker 11: freezing cold tomorrow. This arctic blast is coming through the US.
• 26:17
  Speaker 11: Temperature is as low as minus thirty four to minus
• 26:20
  Speaker 11: forty celsius in places like Wyoming, Nebraska, and Montana, and
• 26:24
  Speaker 11: it's bad news for almost eighty million Americans traveling for
• 26:28
  Speaker 11: Thanksgiving over that seven day period.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: Mitch, we can state signed, thanks so much for your time,
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: mate it is and look forward to seeing him when
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: you're back home. Thirteen away from six Bryan Bridge. Yes,
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: the ocr is coming down fifty basis points yesterday, bringing
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: it to four point twenty five percent, but growth well
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: still ain't great. Nicola Willis is the Finance minister. Minister,
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: good morning, good morning, right, nice to have you on
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: the show. So we know it's all good and rosy
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: and positive in terms of the OCI coming down a
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: bit further. But how worried are you about GDP? We
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: were down in June, we were down in September. We've
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: now downgraded our forecast going forward. This is a failure.
• 27:06
  Speaker 13: Well, I think about GDP all of the time because
• 27:09
  Speaker 13: how fast the economy grows determines what jobs, opportunities, incomes
• 27:14
  Speaker 13: are available for people. So of course we want to
• 27:17
  Speaker 13: see the economy growing faster. That's why we're so focused
• 27:20
  Speaker 13: on removing retape, making sure that people can get resource
• 27:23
  Speaker 13: contents quicker, getting infrastructure out the door. Next year, what
• 27:28
  Speaker 13: the numbers tell us is that the economy will be
• 27:30
  Speaker 13: growing much, much faster than this year. That is good news,
• 27:36
  Speaker 13: but of course we always want to see those forecasts
• 27:39
  Speaker 13: getting higher, and of course it concerns me if they're
• 27:41
  Speaker 13: not as high as they can be.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: What about the half yearly economic fiscal update next month,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: We're going to have to push that surplus out from
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: twenty seven to twenty eight.
• 27:51
  Speaker 13: Well, look, I will announce those forecasts on the seventeenth
• 27:54
  Speaker 13: of December, and I won't go into the numbers ahead
• 27:57
  Speaker 13: of that. What you saw the chief economist of the
• 27:59
  Speaker 13: Tree come out with last week was that the Treasury
• 28:03
  Speaker 13: itself has been looking at the underlying size the economy
• 28:08
  Speaker 13: and revising its view about what's been happening over the
• 28:11
  Speaker 13: past few years. Complicated story, but basically, after COVID. They
• 28:18
  Speaker 13: got excited about where productivity was going. They're now revising
• 28:21
  Speaker 13: that damping it down. Well, actually isn't quite as good
• 28:25
  Speaker 13: as we think, and that means that their gross assumptions
• 28:28
  Speaker 13: are more muted, and of course that has flow on economies.
• 28:31
  Speaker 13: So you flow on implications for everything in the economy,
• 28:34
  Speaker 13: including how much revenue the government is receiving. We won't
• 28:38
  Speaker 13: make those updates in a couple of weeks.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, so that's not sounding great. Hipkins says, you need
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: to stop throttling the economy. I mean, inflation's under control now.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: You need to stop with the austerity. You know, you've
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: got people heading to the winds dull queue. You've got
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: the housing projects that have been stalled because of funding cuts.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: You've got activity that's not happening because of decisions you're making,
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: which is effect that GDP number.
• 29:01
  Speaker 13: What do you say, Well, actually, unemployment is coming in
• 29:05
  Speaker 13: lower than had been forecast and predicted.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's still up.
• 29:09
  Speaker 13: I rejected austerity. I rejected austerity a year ago when
• 29:14
  Speaker 13: we came into office. That's why, despite a declining economy
• 29:18
  Speaker 13: left to us by Chris Hipkins and his friends, we
• 29:21
  Speaker 13: have increased funding dramatically, for health, for education, for the police.
• 29:26
  Speaker 13: What we've been doing is shifting resources from more wasteful
• 29:30
  Speaker 13: areas of government expenditures so we can focus them on
• 29:33
  Speaker 13: the areas that Kiwis really care about. I don't resile
• 29:36
  Speaker 13: from that, because I want to see funding going into
• 29:40
  Speaker 13: things like hiring more police on the front line, ensuring
• 29:43
  Speaker 13: that we've got structured literacy in our schools, making sure
• 29:47
  Speaker 13: that we are hiring more doctors and buying more cancer drugs.
• 29:50
  Speaker 13: That's the right thing to be doing. In Labour's wasteful
• 29:53
  Speaker 13: spending was not good for the economy and it wasn't
• 29:55
  Speaker 13: good for Kiwis.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: What about this report, and I'm sure you've seen it,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: particularly in Wellington, potential for a seventy percent increase in
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: public transport cost? The hell are people meant to wear that?
• 30:06
  Speaker 13: Look? I've only just seen that report. Obviously, public transport
• 30:10
  Speaker 13: fears are ultimately a matter for counsels. They make those decisions,
• 30:15
  Speaker 13: and so that is something which I'll have to understand.
• 30:18
  Speaker 13: What are the adjustments that the Wellington councils are making on
• 30:22
  Speaker 13: that matter. The government is continuing to fund public transport.
• 30:25
  Speaker 13: In fact, more money is going into public transport that
• 30:29
  Speaker 13: it has in the past. Obviously there are pressures. We're
• 30:33
  Speaker 13: also funding roads. There's a lot for us to do
• 30:35
  Speaker 13: in transport, so that those are discretionary decisions and look,
• 30:39
  Speaker 13: I'm happy to be looking at that. We want to
• 30:43
  Speaker 13: see New Zealanders with more cash in their back pockets
• 30:45
  Speaker 13: with a combination of tax relief, family boost childcare payments,
• 30:49
  Speaker 13: of interest rates coming down and inflation coming down. Many
• 30:52
  Speaker 13: many New Zealand families have come through a very tough time.
• 30:55
  Speaker 13: Can now see light at the end of the tunnel.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Have you seen, as Finance Minister, any modeling on the
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: tental impacts of tariffs from a Trump administration or have
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: you had any conversations early conversations have we our embassy
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: withincoming US officials.
• 31:11
  Speaker 13: Look, it is too early to model anything like that
• 31:13
  Speaker 13: because a lot of what you're reading at the moment
• 31:16
  Speaker 13: is speculation about what an incoming Trump administration will do.
• 31:21
  Speaker 13: Obviously we have the comments that he's made on the
• 31:23
  Speaker 13: campaign trail, but how that translates into policy in what order,
• 31:27
  Speaker 13: at what time, for what country are big questions. New
• 31:31
  Speaker 13: Zealand's job is to pursue our interests. We've had a
• 31:36
  Speaker 13: very strong relationship with the United States over many decades.
• 31:39
  Speaker 13: It's a significant trading relationship from which both countries derive values,
• 31:44
  Speaker 13: and the role of our diplomats and our indises is
• 31:47
  Speaker 13: to put our best foot forward to make sure we
• 31:49
  Speaker 13: maintain a really good trading position for our exported.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Everyone's claiming that they're in charge of the government at
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: the moment. Have you seen that on the news? As
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: we all know.
• 31:59
  Speaker 13: I think it's wonderful because many fathers, doesn't it.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: We all know it's here, isn't it. We all know
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: that you're the real boss. You're the real boss of
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: the show.
• 32:07
  Speaker 7: Down here in this world.
• 32:09
  Speaker 13: Nothing great happens without another involved as well. And well,
• 32:12
  Speaker 13: Christopher lasm should take the ultimate credit. He has an
• 32:15
  Speaker 13: extraordinary team of people with them across down ministry, across
• 32:19
  Speaker 13: three parties and government. And I can tell you we
• 32:21
  Speaker 13: all get up each day and we give it our
• 32:23
  Speaker 13: absolute best.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: That is Nichola Willis, Mother of the Nation. Just gone
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: seven minutes away from Sex News Talk s.
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  Speaker 3: B the first word on the News of the Day
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith, City New Zealand's Furniture,
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  Speaker 2: News Talks five away from Sex News Talk said, but
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: sorry now four away from six. Great to have your
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: company this morning. We've just had Nichola Willis went a
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: bit late. Mike's here, Hey, Mike morning.
• 32:49
  Speaker 14: Hey, what I'm concerned? Are you with your Candice Island
• 32:53
  Speaker 14: tickets that you bought?
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 32:55
  Speaker 14: And are you getting many bucks for are you getting
• 32:57
  Speaker 14: a refund for those?
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Did she sell any? She did? Put them on? You said?
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: You said the other day you had six of them?
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Were looking forward to the show. Do you know I
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: would have gone? I went to who's that other guy?
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: You know, the sein film, No, the Marcho guy, the
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: psychologist that everyone needs to say with, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 33:14
  Speaker 14: I interviewed him a couple of years ago, so he's
• 33:16
  Speaker 14: actually an interesting guy if you get beyond the noise
• 33:19
  Speaker 14: around them.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: I quite enjoyed this because there should be nothing wrong
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: with going and listening to koeople who have crazy ideas.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Couldn't agree more.
• 33:26
  Speaker 14: And just because Australia doesn't want somebody this is I
• 33:29
  Speaker 14: just wonder if that's an excuse from our immigration to Australia.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Didn't so easy box to tack, I would have thought so.
• 33:35
  Speaker 14: Anyway, the usual we got the o c R and
• 33:36
  Speaker 14: all went stuff. Stephen Joyce's with us on that in
• 33:38
  Speaker 14: the month, among other matters. This morning very good. Alright,
• 33:41
  Speaker 14: MICA's with the next. Thank you for listening, everybody, have
• 33:44
  Speaker 14: a fantastic day, and I'll see you tomorrow Friday, my
• 33:47
  Speaker 14: favorite day.
• 33:55
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