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The Link Between Detoxification and Weight Loss with Sarah Di Lorenzo · Wellness by Designs - Practitioner Podcast

• 0:21
  Speaker 1: This is Wellness by Designs, and I'm your host, andrew Whitfield Cook.
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: Joining us today is Sarah Di Lorenzo.
• 0:28
  Speaker 1: She's an author, a TV presenter and a clinical nutritionist, and today we'll be talking about the 1010 Kickstart diet.
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: Welcome back to Wellness by Designs, sarah.
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: How are you?
• 0:41
  Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm really well.
• 0:42
  Speaker 2: How are you?
• 0:44
  Speaker 1: I'm very well.
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Madam.
• 0:46
  Speaker 2: And I just want to say thank you so much for having me.
• 0:48
  Speaker 2: I always love being a guest on this wonderful podcast, wellness by Designs, so I'm really excited to chat with you today.
• 0:57
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
• 0:58
  Speaker 1: Hey, we've got a lot to talk about today and it's got to do with things that you might not connect with weight loss.
• 1:05
  Speaker 1: We think just calories, just starve yourself and things like that.
• 1:10
  Speaker 1: But in this new book you talk about detox a lot.
• 1:13
  Speaker 1: So I guess, first off the rank, how is detox connected to weight loss?
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  Speaker 2: Where do I start?
• 1:22
  Speaker 2: That's just such a wonderful and big question.
• 1:24
  Speaker 2: So first of all, yeah, 1010 Kickstart.
• 1:27
  Speaker 2: I want to start with more so talking about what is my, what I think detox is and, as we always know, like you and I both know, we're in a constant state of detoxification through our kidneys, our liver, our gastrointestinal tract and sweating.
• 1:41
  Speaker 2: So we're detoxing right now.
• 1:43
  Speaker 2: But what the 1010 Kickstart is about is about supporting those detox pathways, and so how it's connected to weight loss is clearly when you do for a few reasons.
• 1:54
  Speaker 2: Clearly, when you start doing any kind of detox and I kind of feel like sometimes detox isn't the right word it's more like they're like wellness programs kind of thing, because what you're doing on my style of detoxing is supporting detox pathways, as opposed to what people think detoxing is, which is like drinking some kind of concoction or living on lemons for a week or starving yourself and being irritated, or drinking a whole lot of Chinese herbs and no other food or doing so.
• 2:31
  Speaker 2: People think of detoxing when I say that.
• 2:34
  Speaker 2: They think of it more like that, whereas for me it's about supporting those pathways, and so how it's connected to weight loss is, first of all, the programs I run in 1010 Kickstart.
• 2:45
  Speaker 2: I have a one day, three day, 10 day, four week and they're for different elements and this is why that's such a great question, because it's such a big answer.
• 2:55
  Speaker 2: But to start first and foremost now I've just gone out on a little tangent I'll come back and just answer your question directly.
• 3:03
  Speaker 2: When you're doing my wellness program, first of all, you're going to be on eating healthy food, nutrient dense, and you're having a really healthy diet.
• 3:12
  Speaker 2: So you would be removing alcohol, junk food.
• 3:16
  Speaker 2: You're just unjunking your life basically.
• 3:18
  Speaker 2: So there is that whole.
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  Speaker 2: There is going to be, by default, a weight loss because you're eating a healthy diet with lots of fruit and vegetables.
• 3:27
  Speaker 2: I also remove common allergens in there, so it's a gluten free program, so it's sort of it ends up being low carbohydrate because the focus is on our nutrient density.
• 3:38
  Speaker 2: So I've got lots of fruit in there and vegetables and the good fats and smoothies and different kind of everything, as much as bringing as many nutrients in as possible, as I said, to support detox pathway.
• 3:49
  Speaker 2: So that is one reason why it is supports weight loss.
• 3:53
  Speaker 2: Another one is we're supporting we've got a lot of fiber in the diet in my programs and the fiber is in the fruit and vegetables and there is some legumes in there.
• 4:03
  Speaker 2: So you're feeding all that good bacteria in your gut and that good bacteria in return is is reducing inflammation by creating butyrate, so it's bringing down your inflammation markers, it's supporting the gut lining, it's got that boost in antioxidants.
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  Speaker 2: We feel great.
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  Speaker 2: So, because we're really supporting our gut health and bringing down inflammation that way too, it's making us digest better and inadvertently, we're losing weight that way.
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  Speaker 2: Also, I get people to focus on things like stress.
• 4:34
  Speaker 2: So in my programs it's a holistic approach Stress and weight loss.
• 4:39
  Speaker 2: Stress is a big one.
• 4:40
  Speaker 2: It's up links to cortisol.
• 4:41
  Speaker 2: Cortisol, of course, will into ghrelin.
• 4:43
  Speaker 2: It's a cycle.
• 4:46
  Speaker 2: Sleep is another one I address.
• 4:47
  Speaker 2: Lack of sleep is linked to, is linked to weight gain and in my again in my programs, I focus on that lifestyle element of bringing sleep in there too and bringing sleep well.
• 4:58
  Speaker 2: Compliance is better.
• 4:59
  Speaker 2: When your compliance is better, you stick to the program and in turn we know that lack of sleep is linked to weight gain.
• 5:06
  Speaker 2: That's just showing that people who will sleep five to six hours a night will lose muscle.
• 5:11
  Speaker 2: People who sleep seven to eight hours a night have a better, a more lean when they are doing a calorie restriction, they're actually more inclined to lose body fat.
• 5:22
  Speaker 2: So, as I said, like there's a few parts to that, answers to that question that why these detox programs have minor linked to weight loss.
• 5:30
  Speaker 2: But in general in simply, you're just taking a lot of fast food, processed foods, refined foods, takeaways.
• 5:38
  Speaker 2: You're eating on the fly, not eating properly, not eating all day because you're in meetings, and then pigging out at night which I see a lot of people doing too many liquid calories, coffees, soft drinks, artificial sweeteners that we know are linked to weight gain.
• 5:55
  Speaker 2: People just grabbing coaxes and sugar hits throughout the day at the office and and and people putting artificial sweeteners in in beverages or all that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So all of that stuff is those things that people bad habits.
• 6:11
  Speaker 2: They're removed because you have to focus on the forefront of what you're doing.
• 6:17
  Speaker 2: Is a detox or a wellness plan, which means food prep, which means regular meals and therefore weight loss?
• 6:25
  Speaker 2: I'm giving you a big, huge answer.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, andrew, but there is a lot to it.
• 6:32
  Speaker 1: I've got 20 questions so.
• 6:35
  Speaker 1: So one thing that you said early on was that we're detoxing all the time.
• 6:40
  Speaker 1: And you know, I've got to say I've got to sort of take up the naysayers of natural medicine here, and you know like I've seen time and time again these people trying to dismantle naturopathic medicine as you know hogwash and things like that that we're doing detox all the time.
• 6:59
  Speaker 1: And so you know I've said that I will always remember this greengrocer next door to where I used to work.
• 7:06
  Speaker 1: This is many years ago and he was one of the naysayers and he didn't believe me that you can influence liver detoxification by certain supplements, and so on my days off he apparently came in and he bought a quote unquote fat metaboliser, which I think are poorly named supplements, might I add, but anyway.
• 7:26
  Speaker 1: But he bought one of these things which had choline and Ossetolmethionine and a couple of herbs and some Moorys, this all, chelotonium, chionathus, blah, blah, blah, and and he, without my knowledge, took way above the recommended dosage.
• 7:47
  Speaker 1: So instead of like two tablets to four tablets a day, he took 10 at once and he almost immediately broke out in this massive acnaic rash Like just incredible comodones everywhere.
• 8:02
  Speaker 1: And he came in when I came back to work and I went.
• 8:05
  Speaker 1: What did you do?
• 8:06
  Speaker 1: So there was this whole realization.
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  Speaker 1: This stuff changes things.
• 8:13
  Speaker 1: And I think there's two things there.
• 8:15
  Speaker 1: One you don't tell me it doesn't work, it does.
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  Speaker 1: Two it needs to be under the care of somebody who responsibly knows what they're doing.
• 8:22
  Speaker 1: Don't do it without supervision.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely 100%.
• 8:28
  Speaker 2: I don't, yeah, no, I.
• 8:31
  Speaker 2: That's such an interesting story, though, that he took 10.
• 8:34
  Speaker 2: Why would?
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  Speaker 2: What was the whole idea of taking 10?
• 8:38
  Speaker 1: He simply didn't believe that it would be anything, did he?
• 8:40
  Speaker 2: just want to.
• 8:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't that fascinating.
• 8:42
  Speaker 1: I always say to people when they.
• 8:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just say to people like sometimes, you know, historically I would probably be a little bit more, I would debate more, I'd be more argumentative or I'd be trying to get my point across.
• 8:57
  Speaker 2: And now, because I know it works and because as a clinician who's been running these programs for 20 years and I see it works, the deep, like a lot of people who come in and do a one-on-one detox with me, where we do do supplements as well as as the wellness, as well as food and exercise and lifestyle, I always say to them okay, great, let's go and get all you.
• 9:17
  Speaker 2: Let's start this on, you know, the 1st of March or whatever.
• 9:20
  Speaker 2: Can you please go and get all your bloods done?
• 9:23
  Speaker 2: And then let's really look at your liver.
• 9:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to really focus on full liver studies.
• 9:29
  Speaker 2: I want to get all that done.
• 9:30
  Speaker 2: Then we'll do our four weeks and then I'll say now could you please go back to your GP, go and get another pathology for my one.
• 9:37
  Speaker 2: Let's have a look at your liver.
• 9:38
  Speaker 2: You'll see that the billy robins down.
• 9:41
  Speaker 2: You'll see the and even I've even had pathology places.
• 9:45
  Speaker 2: Contact me and say what have you done with that person?
• 9:47
  Speaker 2: You know what have you done, I've done, I have done a holistic detox with supplements, with diet, with lifestyle, with everything, and yeah, they absolutely work.
• 9:59
  Speaker 2: And I just think it just comes down to my response to people like that is, when people are like that, I just go well, you know, I don't need to prove anything to you with this, the proof is there, it works.
• 10:15
  Speaker 2: People keep coming back, people are getting great results, and the evidence is there.
• 10:21
  Speaker 1: So you're always going to get that.
• 10:24
  Speaker 2: I like to ask a question.
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: Well, my question is so if somebody said detox doesn't work, I say okay, so so enosettel cysteine doesn't help with paracetamol text toxicity because it doesn't help bio transformation of that chemical to a glucuronide.
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: Is that what you're telling me?
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: Because that's a drug therapy.
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, totally yeah.
• 10:49
  Speaker 2: No, that's one of the things I need, Because enosettel cysteine is the antidote for paracetamol toxicity.
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: So part of the issue is perhaps sometimes that we're not using the same vernacular.
• 10:59
  Speaker 1: Like we talk detox, they talk bio transformation of chemicals.
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: We say you know an erroneous comment, which has now been corrected by Dr Brad Leitch, and that was leaky gut syndrome.
• 11:13
  Speaker 1: There's no syndrome, we have intestinal hyperpermeability.
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: You see what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: So we need to be learning the same language and speak in their language if they're going to understand it sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, we're getting off track, and that's me getting off track, not you, Sarah.
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: So let's, let's, let's, let's.
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: I always say do you keep me on track?
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: Because I do love to chat and I do go out on tangents and yeah, if anyway.
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: Well, I'll warn our listeners that Sarah and I had a brief.
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: I say the word brief in vernacular.
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: We had a brief prep chat a few weeks ago and the prep chat is longer than the podcast, but anyway.
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: so, but we were trying to work out what was important and what we needed to get across in our chat, and then we just couldn't.
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: It was exciting because we have to share, and then we chatted.
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: And we chatted and we love the industry and we love what we do, we love sharing this information and we want to get the right stuff across.
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  Speaker 1: So the next question that I came up with your previous answer was you spoke about food preparation, things like that For people, let's say travelers.
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: People are now traveling overseas more.
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: After COVID You've certainly got people who, as an industry, as their job, they travel.
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: So salespeople, for instance, they travel, and these are typically the people that eat poorly.
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: They eat restaurant food day in, day out.
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  Speaker 1: They snack on the road with poorly nutritious food.
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: How can they get better at eating?
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: How can they eat better food on the road?
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: I know that's.
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: I get asked that question a lot and it's a fabulous question and one of my first responses to that is where there is a will, there is a way, Definitely.
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: And I myself have been on the road and it depends how much you want something because, look, it's very easy to wake up and just you know ad hoc, your day, ad lib, the day you have no thought, and a lot of people just do that.
• 13:13
  Speaker 2: Now they wake up and I'll say to people what are you eating today?
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'll do a recall of just general patients and I will get back to answering your question and I'll just say to them can you just tell me what you ate in the last 24 hours?
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't know.
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: I woke up, I just ate the kids toast and I walked past a cafe and I just grabbed that.
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  Speaker 2: They have not given any thought anyway to what they're going to be eating.
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: It's not just travelers, it's people who are in their general day to day life, who do not even consider what they put in their body as a priority.
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: And I always say to people first they just don't even think of it, and that can be eating ridiculous things throughout that.
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, I had a bite of that.
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: I had that biscuit.
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: I someone was getting sandwiches, so I just grabbed a sandwich.
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: We were just all getting Thai, and then I.
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: So they don't even know what they've eaten.
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: They don't think of that, and for me personally, what I put into my body is the is is something that I would have generally planned every day within, probably the night before.
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: I'll usually do a three day prep cycle.
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  Speaker 2: Now I've been on book tours where I've been in and out of hotels and and I've been running around bookstores and jumping on and off planes for two weeks straight when I did my last big book tour last year and I was in that exact position.
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: So I'm someone who, as a priority, we'll always put my health first and what I ate.
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to just eat something and I don't ever want to get to the point where I'm starving and I'm then left with a poor food choice, and I think that there's always a solution.
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: So, first of all, the key to success is prep first and foremost, and for me, you know I would, whenever I travel, I'll look for local markets and I'll look for, if I'm getting off somewhere, if at the airport there's always nuts, there's always fruit, there's always protein bars.
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: If you want to, there's always a solution.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: Somewhere there's always a bakery, a, a, a bakery, a cafe where you can with, where they make sandwiches, like, and you can just ask something.
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: Would it be okay if X, Y, Z or it depends where you're traveling you can take your food with you?
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: I've always got nuts and fruit in my bag and I've got different things like backup protein bars.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: I've always got backup protein powders and so I'm all.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: And then if I walk past the supermarket and especially when I was in the book tour, I would walk in.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: And there's many times where I've been stuck somewhere and if you've got a supermarket near you, you are completely fine.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: And I have walked in somewhere where I've had either fast food or I go into a supermarket and I've walked in and I've grabbed a salad bag and I have grabbed some salmon, hot smoked salmon and I have grabbed a plate.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: I've even put some salmon in the salad bag and bought a plastic fork and eaten it Like there is where as the nuts, because I want to eat something that I feel good at, good with, as opposed to just walking past something and going, oh, whatever, I'll just get some macs or I'll just.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: I just won't eat, so it depends on your level of motivation.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: You know what's really interesting.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, what's really interesting to me is that by no means am I pure in my diet or lifestyle, right, you're letting out your secrets now.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Everybody knows I, just like I've.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: I take my hat off to these pure people who choose to live that lifestyle and have and breeze through, and I really do.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: I applaud them.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: Kylie Eazart, if you're out there, I applaud you.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: She's this incredible, vibrant naturopath.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: It just lives, walks, a talk.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: I am not that.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: Having said that, without this, without the thought process of, you know, needing pure food or any of that clean lifestyle, without that process, I must have veggies, I must have fresh food in my diet, like it's this thing and it's not a you could do, you crave it, I I've.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: If I ever go without veggies, I'm missing something.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: I like my veggies, I love my nachis, and if I'm mixing something in with a protein powder, don't give me a flavoured protein powder.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: Give me vanilla and give me berries or mango or fruit, something natural.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: It's really interesting how you you can get nature similar, but you can't get natural from a flavour.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: No, you can't.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: No, I have a pun of blueberries every day or strawberries every single day, without fire.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: I crave them.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: I have fruit every morning.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Now it usually has nuts and it will have yogurt over it, but yeah, I'll definitely have a bowl of fruit every morning and I actually crave it.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: I think sometimes when you think about why we're craving things, you can go that one step further and think about your gut microbiome and your gut brain access and all of those microbes who absolutely love feeding, love feeding on all of that.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: That's their food.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: They thrive.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: All those good, gorgeous populations in our gut microbiome will flourish on all of that fiber from your vegetables and berries.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, they love that, and so that's that messaging.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: I believe that what we crave is very much from our gut.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Our gut dictates that.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think you've really harped on something there, and that is that we know that you can change a microbiota within days at least you know days?
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: yes, of eating a vegetable based diet or a plant based diet.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: So are those people that crave fatty foods and fast foods.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Has their gut microbiota changed to a certain profile, and can that be changed reasonably quickly to a different profile with plant based foods?
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Much that.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Here is the next question how long does it take before you really start to get rid of those cravings for the fatty foods?
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, there's a lot of habit.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: in there there's a lot of psychology.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: So I think that people who crave fast and fatty foods, first of all, first and foremost, I think that is, yes, it's a way of life, it's a taste thing.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: I think they fancy the taste To me when I think of that.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: That's all that kind of mouth microbiome.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: People love eating fatty foods and no one loves the feeling of fatty foods in their gut because they get bloated and distended, so that's first and foremost like and flatulent and their stools smells and all that kind of stuff and it's constipation associated with that.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: So it's definitely it is also the microbiome to a degree, but I think it's also it's habit, it's taste, it's a very much a mouth thing.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: And in the other part of your question, one of the first signs I see and this is when people start doing any one of my programs, who are people who were living on processed, refined fast foods, fatty foods, you know all that kind of stuff one of the first things I see is constipation.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: And I always and people go, oh, I've started your, you know this diet and I'm constipated.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: I'm constipated, I'm like, well, we're feeding different bacteria and they know we need to grow some good colonies.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Right now we haven't got the colonies there who are going to.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: We haven't got all that that wonderful lactobacillus in there, those big colonies of that and the Bifida bacteria that we want, because you haven't been feeding them what they all the prebiotics that they love, all the bananas, asparagus, onions, garlic, leek, all that wonderful prebiotic food isn't a part of that person's diet.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: So we need, once you start introducing that, we need to feed them so they can grow and people can get those health benefits.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: So I will say to people in about two weeks you'll start everything, will I tell people two weeks when they start to get those that constipation, one of my first things is I'll say we just need to bring a bit of, maybe just bring a fiber supplement in, bring some psyllium husk into the diet.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: To start getting some motility and drink lots of water is one of my big encouragements.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: But yeah, within, within days, we can see a change in the populations and then within about two weeks, I see the gut settling down and I see people going back to regular bowel movements.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my clinical experience.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Well, that that parallels with what naturopaths who specialized in liver detox have told me, in that the first two weeks you can actually see an uptick of liver enzymes if they're out of whack, and then after the two weeks they start to settle down.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: And that rings true of you're changing the microbiota, but the bile is yet to the liver is yet to wake up and start to secrete bile, which is our natural body's laxative, of course.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: So that's really interesting.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying what I've seen clinic yeah, it is.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: It is so interesting, like the body is just it's fascinating.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: I love that and this is why I love doing this podcast.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: We just, yeah, it's amazing.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Well, okay, so so next question then is when do we start detoxing, like like, when should we, when do we is it?
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Does the clinical part of the detox only happen after two weeks, or do you feel people Start to wake up in three days and go oh my god, my life turned around.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Every see that, okay, everyone one.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: I.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: One thing I do know is we're very Individual with that because it depends what our start point is.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: So that if your start point is someone who is like a banker, who I have a lot of this patience, like you know, but men who are in their mid 50s, they're at the big boozy lunches every day, they're having two bottles of wine a day.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: I mean it depends.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: So it's someone like that is going to notice Significant, but they're also going to go through.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be harder for them, the symptoms are gonna be harder.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Just things like Blood pressure will elevate, first of all because there's the stress, then there's coming off the alcohol that can impact cardiovascular health.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: It depends like it depends what.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: So what I'm saying is it depends where you're coming from.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Someone who's just, who is a healthy person, who 80% eats really well, does regular, regular exercise, the transitions not going to be that big.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: They might feel a little bit of a headache or they might feel a little bit of a struggle or some fatigue, but they're not going to get those.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Just yeah, that that bit of fatigue, starting the detox around day three, day four.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: But I always say to them by date.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Just day one and day two are really quite easy because they're just the adjustments.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Day three, day four, day five can be really hard for some people with low energy.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Just that's when things are really starting to reconfigure.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: I always say to people by day six, by day seven, you're gonna start to feel great and then you'll see all of those wonderful clarity of the brain, fog, lives, clarity of mind.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: By Usually within the two-week mark, most people will have better sleep, higher libido, I'm gut working well, that much better mood, happy, lowered stress, all of those kind of stuff.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: But there is that transition.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: But it does.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's better skin, yeah, the glowing as well.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: It does actually.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: But it depends on your start point, where you're coming from, because there's some people I will make that.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: I will make them take a beaver item and before they do the detox, just because I'm worried about the neurological system, especially if they're big drinkers.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: The biggest one I find the struggle with is more coming off alcohol, because I lost.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: And one thing I've done with my detox is is I haven't stopped coffee.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: I did you.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: I used to stop caffeine, but I then I just don't think it's I didn't I.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: The compliance was really poor.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, if we're a lot of therapeutic activities.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Yes, well, I'm very pro coffee, I'm a very pro caffeine.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: I love it, so I love.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, I could go on about caffeine right now, but I'm not gonna go on that tangent because I want to come back to you.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: I will other other question Are you can in a second?
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: I want to come back to your other question when do we do these detoxes?
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: And I always say to people there's, as a general thing, I always call them the stop, reflect, assess, okay.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: So what I find is, and what I see is no, people don't really address their health until there's a crisis, crisis being a number of things a diagnosis, the GP telling you you've got to go on statins or Although, or medications, or blood pressure medication.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: These are all the crisis that people get to and I'm like all they're all they're pre diabetic and they're they're being told to go on metformin, etc.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: That to me is like, and so what I I want to do as a practitioner with 1010 kickstart, is I want people a Couple of times a year I would say around four times a year to spend anywhere from just two weeks Just to stop, get your bloods done.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: If you're someone who's highly stressed, especially, get your bloods done.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Do give up booze for two weeks.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Just focus on yourself.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Focus on a healthy meat eating meal plan, focus on some mental health.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Address not only the toxicity in your life toxicity from food, alcohol, cigarettes, etc.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Toxicity in relationships, toxicity in your workplace, spend two weeks giving back to yourself, focusing on you, focusing on where you're at, so you don't have a crisis.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: It's so, it's.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: I see them as self-love and self-care.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: So when I do these programs myself, I sit there and I go.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: What are my goals?
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Where am I at?
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: What relationships are around me?
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: What do I need to address?
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: I go out every day and I walk.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: I'm nice to myself, I take myself to the gallery because I like that, I take myself for a massage and I take myself shopping.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: I'm actually really kind to myself and I go into the GP and I just think do I need to go to the dentist?
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: While I'm doing this healthy diet and I do breathing exercises, meditations, affirmations, I set goals, I address the goals throughout it and by the end of it, I feel really good that I've done something to myself and I feel great about my health.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: And then I will go back to my Regular life, which isn't far from that.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: I live mostly like that anyway, but then again I'm in this industry and I'm presenting on TV.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking about that, I'm reading studies every day.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: So this is my world anyway, but I take it that one step further and what I'm encouraging people to do is the same thing.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Stop.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: As mothers, as partners, as employees, as employers, we put ourselves at the end of the back of the list.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: And, as I said so many, there is very few people I know who really focus on self care holistically and as, until I get to a crisis, and it's when it doesn't matter how much money you've got.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: If your health's not there, you haven't got anything.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: If you're sick every day or just you know, low mood, low energy, low libido, stressed, that's not a life.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: That's not life, that's not living.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: That is just Well, what would you say?
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: It's not.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: I love everything about tea and vitality and feeling fabulous and energised, and nothing feels better when your systems are working well.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: You know, it's a very important place to be in, like this self love, when we're talking about vagal nerve stimulation here.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: So when people are eating stressed and they're, you know, self loathing and things like that, you've got that cortisol response, you've got vagal nerve inhibition.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: So when somebody is there, how do you get them to be where you are?
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Like that's a big change.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: So if you were, if you are, first thing I say to people when to get to where I am, you need to do what I do for three months, because all the research shows that a human being, to change, to create a way of life, needs 66 days.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: It's not three weeks or two weeks, and you need to be doing something every single day for 12 weeks.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: That's why my first book, the 10, 10 Diet, which I'm actually rebranding the 10, 10 plan, Because it's not really a diet, it's a way of life I picked 10 weeks because I want to help change people's lives.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: So if you want to really make a change in your life, first of all, a, you have to want it and it's got to be something that you actually personally want.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: That's first.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: If you don't want it and you're doing it for someone else, you will fail because you're not doing.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Everything you've got to do is because you want it.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: And then B consists every day you wake up and you can't it's not going to happen automatically Write down your food plan, get your food chopping done.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: I have my food three days.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: I have a two-day work on it over a seven-day period.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Twice in a week I will do my food prep.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Now I don't sit there and prep food out, but I get the food.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: I do the shopping I want for the direct to prepare the food that I want.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: So I always will have the food ready to go if I'm in a rush and I can literally pour that into that and have that and bang, and I've done it in a minute.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: I've always got quinoa cooked.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: I've always got chia seeds soaked.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: If I'm in a rush in the morning, I can just throw soaked chia seeds with a bit of berries and I'm out the door.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: I've got a healthy breakfast, like that nuts on top.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: I've got my staples all there ready to go and I've even got everything that I work with gut health as well.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: So I've always got sauerkraut in the fridge and I've got kombucha to grab and I've always just got miso paste.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: I've got everything in there and it's preparation.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: It's simple and wanting it, it's basic and being consistent.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it will come naturally it comes naturally.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but the gravitation too, as in, I want to move towards something rather than I have to go away from that, you know, to leave something that I love behind, rather than that mental picture to gravitate something towards which you want to be.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: So it's more of a pull rather than a push, if you like.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: I want to add something to that, though it's a really interesting flip.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: I just want to add to that that once a week.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: So I love fine dining, it's just.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: I love beautiful wine.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: I really enjoy that.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: I still would do like I would still eat out and that's somewhere nice, you know, whenever I wanted to and I would, and I'm actually, and I would enjoy if I'm going to go out and enjoy food and I'll have a glass of wine or two with it, I have no problem with that, because that's about balance and having a healthy balance too.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: So it's not only of all one way, Like if we were to go out for dinner, I would definitely be looking at the wine list and having sharing a bottle of wine and I would definitely taste some dessert.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: I would definitely do that because to me now I'm not going to go out and order a pizza and a big carbonara and eat garlic bread and that kind of stuff.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: I would probably do more, just food.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: That's beautiful.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: For me it would be about beautiful produce.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: But you know, I don't know how.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: If, whenever I would do that, that might be twice in one week.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: It might not be for two months, it's just.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: It's not a regular thing, but I'm not you know I still eat out and enjoy.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: So yeah, reward rather than punishment.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: I guess that's where I was sort of going, that sort of pulling towards something that you want to do rather than being hounded with a stick from behind.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: I think it's a really important mindset and you know if, even if you think about the mind chemicals, you know the cortisol and whatever else vagal nerve stimulation that's got to do with this reward sort of thing, dopamine for instance.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's move on, because you will talk another hour.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: So so you spoke earlier about you know people can go through these.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: You know transient sort of feelings of unease or disease.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: You know the heaviness in the liver, the headaches, the ratting us, things like that.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Do you give people a certain amount of time and do you give them warning to say, listen, this well could happen because we know what you've been doing.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: You know two bottles of wine at lunch for 30 years or whatever is you don't?
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: You don't clear that one.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: You don't clear that without payment.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Oh yes.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, do you have a sort of repertoire that you tell people.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Absolutely like people, like people come in when they want to do this or people would buy the book and I write about it like this is.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: This is hard, like I will tell people this is big changes.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: It's withdrawal as well for many people.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: I mean withdrawal from sugar, those.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: It's that, it's the cravings and it's the headaches and it's I say to people just take some.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: My advice is it's hard, get through the first two weeks of anything in your home and host.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Take it day by day, take it hour by hour.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: There's always herbal teas you can have and there's water and you can have lemon and water and and just.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: And I always say to people it is, it is challenging, but you, the rewards are tenfold when you have actually accomplished dietary, a complete dietary overhaul and you're feeling just like you and I spoke about before, about about berries and vegetables you feel, you feel the, the, the wonders of those foods in your system, you feel alive, you feel rejuvenated, regenerated, you feel healthy and energized and fresh and and the lifting of brain fog and the bowels working well and and just and the clarity.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: And so I decided people, just get through it, just get through it and once you through it, you'll be fine, and so, no, I pre-worn them absolutely because it's they would drop off if I didn't pre-worn them that drop off the compliance would be really interesting, though, about you know culture and where we've come from in the past mum and dad and and all of that sort of thing.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: What what you grew up learning.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Thankfully, you know my dad particularly loved his vegetables and it wasn't a conscious thing that I've taken on like I've had my bad fast food times.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: As I said, I'm by no means pure, but.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: But there's this gravitation to fresh, fresh food.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: It's really interesting to me when I see people that simply don't eat fresh food, like it's so alien to me.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: But I guess this is more and more why they need your book.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: So can you do is a breathing I know this is like going to be like a shotgun question sort of you've set it out into chapters.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Can you go through what you cover in your chapters of your book for us?
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: please, yeah, absolutely so.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: So 1010 kickstart is a book.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: It's in two sections.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: So there is one section which is I and I and I loved writing this book so much.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: So there's one section which is all smoothies.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: It's an A to Z of smoothies, okay.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: So the A to Z it starts from arthritis and asthma and then it goes through to menopause and bloating and migraines and osteoporosis and all through the alphabet I've got an A to Z of smoothies for basically to treat every ailment.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Now, the reason why I did that was I want people to see food as medicine.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: So I want people who grab this book to go oh god, that's really interesting.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: I'm someone who's got arthritis.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: There is got a arthritis smoothie.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: I'm going to start my day with this smoothie which is just full of all these.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: I've got anti-inflammatories in there.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: I can't remember that smoothie off by heart, but it would.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: I know I would have turmeric in there.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: I've probably had avocado in there, a whole mixture of ingredients.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: I do that kind of stuff, right, and so I and some nut butter, and so I want people to start their day with that and I want them to kind of look at that like a prescription pad, like for treatment of disease.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: So that's for people who are picking up this book, who are, who have got like an ailment that they can work in to any of the four programs so I do talk about in the book, about rest, rest and retest and and reset and and stop, reflect, assess, all that kind of stuff about health in general.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: And then I've got these four programs.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: So one's a one day, one is a three day, one is a ten day and then there's another four week program in there.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: So the one day program is for the people, say, for example, who went out to a wedding the night before and they ate like they had moments to live.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: They've woken up, they've just gone.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, I can never eat ever again.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: I feel absolutely dreadful and whatever, or hung over, and that's a one day.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: It's a one day reset.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: So it's all about keeping back into your healthy self.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: So just waking up, going okay, I'm allowed to do that.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: I'm allowed to go to a wedding and eat like I've had moments to live, that's okay.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: But the next day I'm going to compensate.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: You know I am going to compensate and do these one day detox.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: The next one is a and I'm going to ask you why you were laughing in a minute.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: But anyway, the next one is my three day detox.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: So, and when I say detoxing, what you'd be eating is you'd be waking up in the morning, you'd have one of those gorgeous smoothies, lunch would be a fabulous detox salad, just with loads of chopped, chopped vegetables in there and maybe a bit of salmon.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: And and dinner might be a beautiful soup with lots of vegetables in there and you might be snacking on things like a bit of apple cider vinegar in water, or you might be having some nuts, lots of fruit.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: So the three day one is, basically, and they're all very low, they're very low in sort of complex carbs, so it is a big for a big focus on fruit and veg and and lean and lean protein.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: So, for example, let's to say, between Christmas and New Year, you went out every day and you were at here and there and it's and boxing day and you've got a put on three kilos.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: I just feel gross.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: It's like it's my new year.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Knew me, what am I doing?
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: I'm going to do the three day off.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Sarah's got a three day detox.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: I'll do that for three days and it will get me back on track.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: The ten day one is for people who have probably pretty stressed, drinking a bit, not focusing on themselves, not really feeling that great, just thinking.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: I just don't feel great, I'm a bit discombobulated, work's not great, I'm not managing stress, I'm just sort of oh, I'm just going to do this for 10 days and that one by the.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: You know, you lose a couple of kilos, two to three kilos doing that one and it's just that nutrient density.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: It's more holistic, it's more lifestyle.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: And then the four week one is for people who have had a diagnosis of some kind or they've just massively stressed, they've got issues with liver, issues with gut that's more than really hardcore liver gut and really people who do need to make more of a drastic change.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: So they're the programs that are within that book and, as I said, all of those programs.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: If you've got an ailment, and it might be hypertension or anything, as I mentioned, you pick one of the smoothies and you work it in to the detox, the detox wellness program.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: So if that's an ailment, and that would be more for the four week one, and I've had so many wonderful stories of people writing to me oh Sarah, I did your four week like a lady in Adelaide.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: I actually opened a name out this morning.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: Hi, sarah, I live in Adelaide.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: I just want to tell you that I did your four week detox and I've just completed it and my cholesterol is back into normal range.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: I've lost seven kilos, of course, which we know three to four of it would have been probably a bit of body water in the beginning because of all the glycogen and blah, blah, blah.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: And then she and I feel really great.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: I feel so energized and can I do the 10-10 diet?
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: Should I do that?
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: So I get stories like that.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: I get a thousand emails a week, I think right now from all my programs, like from the diets and stuff, and my brand has got its own community called the Sarah de la Rensa community, where all these people because there's like 100,000 people right now doing my programs they all interact with each other and share their successes and they're before and afters.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: And for me, the biggest win with this is not people going.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: I look hot in a bikini.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: My biggest win for me is when people go.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: I don't need pharmaceutical medication anymore.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: I do to warn people if you are on blood pressure medication doing any of my programs, you need to and you start to feel dizzy, you've got to go straight back to your GP.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Like I always tell people, any signs and symptoms, go to the, because, unless they're my one-on-one patient, I always make sure, because what you'll find is you won't start needing these medications and then they'll end.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: I don't want people taking medication that they once needed and then don't.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, there's a lot of that stuff and it's very rewarding.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: It's a solution for everyone, for all different you know life events and festivities and yeah, Now, obviously your books for sale, but have you got any sort of, you know, guidelines or templates or things that people can at least wet the appetite with from your site, from your website?
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: I've got okay.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: So, hmm, I've got my.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: I do have a YouTube channel which has all of my TV segments on it, which we do some books up on there as well.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay, great.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: So it is quite so.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: There's a YouTube channel where people can actually see me, and it's mostly got well.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: This podcast will go up on my YouTube channel, for example, and every time I'm on TV it goes to the YouTube channel.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: If I've done other things, so radio or that kind of stuff, I try and filter as much onto there as possible for people who are interested.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: So the books have spoken about there.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: And then, obviously, my social media platforms have got I talk about the books.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: If people want to know real life stories and they want, if they want to, if they want to feel that, if this, if what I do, is right for them, they can join my Facebook community and just ask the community.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: I'm interested in doing this.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: That'll be really good about the.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: That'll forgive me, sorry to cut you off there.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: That'll be really good for people to see what you do, what you cover on your TV segments, because it's practical stuff.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: So it's, you know, it's very short, sharp and, yep, I can learn something from that.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: I can learn something from that.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: I think that's a great little introduction and then people can go okay, now I'm ready to buy the book and embark on the diet.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: And I need to say, just as a closing remark what I was laughing at was when you said eat like what is it?
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: Eat like you've got moments to live.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: And, Sarah Dillarendzo, I hope that we can change people to.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: If they did have moments to live, they'd be picking up a punitive blackberries or raspberries rather than lining up in a fast food stall.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: But thank you for joining us on Wellness Fighters' Sides and giving us.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: Like you know, it's always great to chat with you, but I learned little tip bits along the way.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: It's wonderful.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, look honestly, hand on my heart.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me, and I really I always enjoy our chats.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: I know you and I could talk for hours and hours and hours and hours and I do hope that.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: I really do hope that anyone is listening, that they feel inspired somehow by our chats to to live their best lives, and you're always a lot of fun, and I do love your little anecdotes as well.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: So thank you so much for having me.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: My absolute pleasure, Sarah, and thank you everyone for joining us today.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: You can catch up on all the show notes and the other podcasts on the Designs for Health website.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: I'm Andrew.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm Andrew Whitfield Cook.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: This is Wellness Partizans.