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Basically a Dog Training Podcast · You Know What I Mean?

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  Welcome to the You Know what I Mean podcast by Kate and
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  Bethany. To keep up with us on the daily
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  subscribe. Now let's get to the show.
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  Favorite day of the week? Oh, hi.
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  Hello. How are you?
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  Hey, OK, First off, I love the color you're wearing.
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  If anyone's watching the video, is that that's not the same one
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  that I have. I think it's a slightly
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  different color, but is that the same sweatshirt?
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  It's a different style that I think would look great on you.
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  It's like it's over oversized. Yeah, it's it's so.
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  Cute, I love it. Thank you.
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  Yeah. Yeah, you wanna.
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  I need I need to jump in right away with the Stanley story
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  because you just asked a few headers and I like how you
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  changed your color. I know when you.
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  Ordered a different color. OK you guys.
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  So none of this is making any sense because apparently we
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  think you guys are all inside of our brain.
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  If you see my camera moving, if you're watching, it's 'cause my
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  cat is rubbing her face on the corner of my laptop.
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  Hey Kitty step. But the other day I so let me
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  back up. You guys all know tomorrow.
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  So when you're listening to this is birdie surgery and Bethany
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  has been the sweetest and she sent our dogs a bucket of
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  chucket balls to our house. And so it came to me to like it.
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  She wrote Kate Stankowski and you're the only one that
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  actually like writes Kate to me. So I knew it was from you.
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  What do? People say Caitlin.
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  Caitlin Yeah. Well, really the only one that
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  sends me, like, mail, like, is like my dad every year sends me
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  a Valentine's Day card. Like my parents send me a
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  birthday card. So it's like that kind of stuff
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  where it's like my parents call me Caitlin.
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  OK yeah. And then obviously when I'm
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  ordering stuff like Amazon, all my accounts are under Caitlin.
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  Oh, got it. OK.
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  Yeah, so when I saw Kate Stankowski I was like oh OK,
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  this has got to be from Bethany. So get that.
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  And then like 2 days later I see another box and I'm like can't
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  see Cassie. I'm like Oh my God, is it my
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  birthday? And I'm like no, Bethany is just
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  being super thoughtful and you know, my mind goes to oh, she
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  sent the dog something. So then she's probably like
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  being super thoughtful and sending me something too.
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  I open it and it's this beautiful Stanley.
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  I'm like Oh my gosh, nobody bought me a Stanley like you
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  bought me the Christmas Stanley. Yes.
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  And then I'm like she sends me. So I text her and I'm like, Oh
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  my gosh, did you send me this beautiful pink Stanley?
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  And it was a while later. I have to read your exact text
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  because I think your response was just as good as receiving
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  it. Yeah, I said hi.
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  Did you send me a beautiful pink Stanley?
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  She was OMG, OK. I almost just lied and said yes,
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  but it was meant to go to me. I don't think I'd pick a pink
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  one for you. What color would you get in
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  Stanley? Geez, it's because I sent the
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  balls and then, but do you want it?
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  You can totally keep it. And then I'm just geeking out,
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  sending like the, you know, dead face emoji and just cracking up
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  because I'm like, that is the most Bethany.
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  This cat is I. See him paw.
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  Her blood. She just bit my arm.
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  I'm not touching her. Look at this.
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  Stop it. Watch your skin.
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  See if I can. Fit.
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  I want you is to see her. Oh my gosh.
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  I'm so distracted. Get off of here.
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  You're on. Thank God this is abnormal.
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  She it's so funny seeing her to the vision board.
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  Yeah, also because when you text me that like not 10 minutes
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  earlier or 5 minutes earlier, I literally stepped outside.
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  Like where is my Stanley supposed to get here?
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  I don't. Get alerts.
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  Oh, OK, no, no, no. I go and check and I was like
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  what? Where is it?
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  And then I. You were probably so
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  disappointed. So disappointed because I was at
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  Dick's Sporting Good the day before and they have like a
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  selective one right now that's like AI don't know.
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  It's like $55 instead of 45, but it's like a special edition.
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  Like it's really cool with black, with like white flowers.
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  And it was like, no, no, no, I'm going to just go get one that's
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  45. Meanwhile, I just need to Venmo
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  you because now you spent $90.00.
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  But also no, we're twinning. Yeah, so I wouldn't pick a pink
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  one for you for some reason. I love this pink though.
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  OK, Yeah, I. Also love that it has almost
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  kind of like the. This on it it's like.
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  A cream but almost a yellow hue to it and I love it.
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  So I mean I love it. So I was literally like, Oh my
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  gosh, this is so nice. Like so spring when I was
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  wearing pink on our last podcast.
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  So I'm like. Oh yeah, I'm.
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  Wearing pink today too. Like I love it.
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  I've been loving pink and the workout halter top we both
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  bought. That's so true.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  Well, and so literally when I got that text from you, I'm
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  standing behind the couch and I'm like, puppy, oh, my God,
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  Kate got the Stanley. Should I tell her I got it?
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  She said. I'm so thoughtful.
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  I was like, Oh my God, that'd be so nice of me, wouldn't it?
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  Be like I didn't do that. Oh my gosh, but what you did do
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  that was so thoughtful and I already posted this on my
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  stories is the legitimate lizard vision board.
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  Honestly, I need to like keep my mouth on the mic because I
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  noticed when you and I get super excited.
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  Oh no, I'm just like here. We just back off of the mic and
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  then I'm like listening to it back.
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  I'm like, I have no idea what I'm saying because I'm like, or
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  if we get whispering. Sometimes it's.
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  OK, Yeah, we're super professional around here.
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  Super. Oh yeah.
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  This extreme we come so. Prepared.
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  We have a full schedule outline. So yes, this was probably the
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  best mail I ever received. It's going to be, it's going to
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  be like I have a child and I'm putting it in my fridge because
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  this is like a piece of art that needs to be on display.
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  It's so good. It was so fun to make it because
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  I was like, Oh my God, there's like little pockets of things on
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  it that this is I love. Did you have all of that at home
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  or did you have to go get stuff? So I went to Hobby Lobby.
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  Which, by the way, do you have a Hobby Lobby?
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  Yeah. Oh my God, it's like a Knick
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  knack person's dream. So many things that are totally.
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  Have dogs to Hobby Lobby. Yeah, and I you guys.
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  Have so many outdoor areas like I like in the winter, I have to
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  like get creative. So I'll just like go walk
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  through Hobby Lobby. I'm like this is so fun.
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  I have seen other traders do that, but I went and I was like
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  overwhelmed with because I, I knew I was going straight to the
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  paper aisle because I used to make these and I need to start.
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  See this is I used to make Bobby.
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  I think I made him 3 cards like this where it was like pictures
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  of us and it's the 2 pages of paper glued together.
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  And so I know that aisle very well.
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  And so I was going straight there.
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  So, so many distractions. It's highly Oh yeah, you can't
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  go. I mean it's.
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  Tough for an ADHD person to go there.
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  Yes. So I'm actually going through
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  the checkout. I didn't know that they couldn't
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  do tap pay and so. Yeah, they don't.
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  No, and so I didn't have I actually didn't have my drivers
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  license either anyway, so I didn't have the money.
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  It was like 167 and I'm like, Oh no, I'm going to have to go
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  home. Dollars one $67167.
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  Where did you buy? The lady behind me, an
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  overflowing cart. So she got a lot out of Hobby
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  Lobby. She was like, oh, I'll pay for
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  it. And I was like, that's so nice.
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  Thank you. Oh.
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  She did. Yeah, but it was so fun.
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  I love it. Was a lot of fun.
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  I printed the stuff from Pinterest.
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  So good. I love it so much.
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  And also I had to mention, so when we were in Florida, it was
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  Valentine's Day and Casey and I aren't like big solid like we
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  don't like, you know, be mine like XOXO like.
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  But I did bring him a card that I had at the house from I
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  traveled with it and literally I came out and he saw the card and
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  his face goes. So surprised.
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  And he was so disappointed in himself and I'm like, I did not
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  care and I did not expect him to have one.
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  And then Bethany goes, I need to have a card for Bobby.
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  Bobby's going to listen to this, by the way, He doesn't know
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  about the Well, it's a. Mother's Day.
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  Yeah, he 100% knew. Oh.
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  OK, OK. There was no way he wouldn't
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  know. So Bethany's like, I didn't get
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  him a card, and Bobby didn't get you one either.
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  But you're like, I need to basically, you know, have one as
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  well. So Bethany's like, yeah, I have
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  some, like, extra cards. You know, we all have a junk
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  drawer somewhere in our house, and there's some, like, random
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  cards in there. So Bethany goes and she's like,
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  I've got Mother's Day cards and we're like, that'll work.
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  And it said something like Happy Mother's Day on the front.
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  Bethany crosses it off and just put Happy Valentine's Day.
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  I don't even remember what the inside said, but it was so
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  funny. And when you made Bobby
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  literally read it in front of us out loud, that's when you know
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  you're kind of like joking. It's like the having him reading
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  it out loud in front of someone. Also, is this the popped collar
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  thing that you like? Don't like on pop?
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  Because it's like limping. It's like slouchy.
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  His is straight up. Yes, this is what I'm saying.
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  OK. Like yours is clouching a
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  little. If yours was like like this,
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  like pop collar, it's stiff, it's slightly stiff.
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  I don't know. Stiffed pop.
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  We've talked about this so many times.
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  This guy, he's not even here to stand up for himself, ever.
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  Ever. No, but we were in.
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  We were in I think Lululemon or whatever or something.
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  And he was like, so is this a pop?
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  I was like, yeah, so let's get I got him some flat shirt types.
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  Nice. We have a flat shirt.
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  I know. Can we get a bunch update?
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  Oh my gosh. OK, so which by the way, Bobby
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  listens to all of our episodes, which I love so much.
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  That's so sort of husband preface with Bobby's the best.
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  He is sweetest and most amazing husband.
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  He has so many amazing qualities.
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  So the other day we're working out in the gym and then
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  afterwards we took a couple of dogs for a walk.
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  I walked outside because he didn't.
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  This is something I would announce.
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  I would make it very clear. Look what I did.
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  You know that is not Bobby at all.
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  Points for me walk outside, I see it at the curb and I'm like
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  oh has. It been picked up.
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  Yes, it was picked up later that evening.
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  Do you know who has to? I haven't said this to Bobby
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  yet. Well, I don't because I when
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  we're walking past first there's a guy in our neighborhood who
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  usually his front yard is very cluttery.
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  It kind of sticks out because he'll like pick up things.
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  He'll even go through people's trash to like get stuff.
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  And I don't know if he's selling it.
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  I don't know. So that was.
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  His own. That's my the judgement.
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  I know he didn't really want to have it, so I checked there.
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  I didn't see it there. I even thought about how he's
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  like picky about who takes the free bunch.
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  So, but I did the next day, I was walking past the lady who
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  has the garage who personal trains.
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  She might have it in there, but it could also just be another
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  bench. So let's just go with that,
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  yeah? Let's just go with that.
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  Yeah, guys, just so you know, this is we're not just talking
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  about like this is some random Amazon bench.
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  This is a rogue bench. And I said to Beth, because I
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  didn't realize it, I knew that like all yours is like updated
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  stuff is rogue. And I know you guys are very
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  brand loyal with things. Yeah, we like brand.
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  You guys are like Lululemon Tesla rogue like.
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  You guys are very brand loyal. Well, I'm not wearing a Tesla
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  shirt, by the way. OK, that's not his part.
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  No, no. No, just.
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  I mean like. You guys have a hat that says
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  Tesla? No, OK, you.
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  Guys, just like your vehicle's like you got another.
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  Oh yeah, we got you. You wear.
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  Lululemon, you drive a Tesla and you work out with Rogue.
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  Yeah. Don't worry, she's not like.
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  Can you imagine? I love.
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  Elon no. None of that.
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  No. But so literally my first
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  response to you is, you know, you guys could sell that bench
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  for like wipe off the pollen. And then Bethany responds like,
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  you're so right. But that's too many steps.
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  So later on I told Casey I was like, Casey, did you know that
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  the bench is a rogue bench? And he's like, you know, they
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  could sell that. I'm like, Oh my God, we are the
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  same person when it comes to not that we like, we definitely are
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  not like nickel and dime it for everything.
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  But Casey's a Facebook marketplace, kind of like he he
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  likes to do his deals on the on the Facebook marketplace.
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  Yeah, but so desire to do that. Totally fair.
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  Yeah. But I am kind of, I am kind of
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  jealous that I couldn't pick up the free bench and just be like.
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  You're. No.
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  I wish they could have, yeah. Yeah, yeah, totally.
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  Because I immediately sent you a screenshot.
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  When I'm out there, I'm like, Oh my God, I got to tell Kate.
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  And then so I'm out. He comes out and I'm like,
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  Bobby, look, that's so great. I'm so proud of you.
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  And he was like, he was like, I felt, I felt shame about it.
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  Oh no, it was like. But if it worked, it's fine.
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  I was kidding. And I was like, no, from the
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  podcast, sorry. Oh, I did text you and say
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  podcast peer pressure. But anyway, yes, so I.
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  Mean it's real. Yeah, but then he he he joked a
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  little and he was like, well, no, when you said cuz when I was
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  talking to him about the benches and I was like, well, we have 3.
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  So like when Kate and Casey come back, we can share the two.
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  It's like. Totally don't need 3.
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  Yeah, it's good for your friendship to share things, yes.
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  Yep. He's talking over.
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  There, we're over there. We have to share the cable
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  machine like we can share. That's what he's literally.
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  We are your only visitors that stay for three weeks.
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  We're. The only other people that want
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  to work out with us, yeah. Literally so we can, we can
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  share and half the time we're out there just like, yeah,
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  moving and grooving. I love you said.
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  That's the thing that got him. He was like we can share the 2.
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  Totally. Yeah, it's so fascinating how
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  things work in people's brains, but it was.
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  Sometimes they just need that. Push big day.
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  Yes, we helped with that, I know.
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  I loved your post the other day. By the way.
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  This is completely changing topics, but how are you feeling
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  after your E collar talk? I know you said you might
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  forget, you might regret this. I hope there's no regrets.
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  No regrets. I swear on my life I've never
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  felt like this about posting about E collar stuff.
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  And it's because of the stuff I'm writing where I am actually.
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  I used to take it very personal. Yeah, like as well.
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  And also I don't want other owners to see the comments and
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  be like, Oh no. And second guess, you know,
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  yeah. So no, I loved it and I
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  actually, I need to go back and replied to the comments.
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  But then did you, I don't know if you saw there was this one
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  lady who just went a little crazy and there was a whole
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  thread inside the comments. Oh.
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  Yes one of my clients clients turned friends is in is in there
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  who also commented on it. She screenshotted it to me and
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  said I might be getting in a fight on Bethany's post and all
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  I said back was not worth it. Not worth.
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  It no, because of course like my client's point of view was great
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  perspective, but the person it's not going to hear it.
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  No, they don't care. No, they don't care.
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  And she kept coming back like pretty much like 2 year old,
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  yes, like. It was ridiculous.
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  Just so you know, just because I'm like, I don't want any of
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  that in my orbit. I clicked on that person and
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  blocked her because I'm just like I don't need her on my
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  page. I'm.
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  Telling you how I blocked? Who's the the big purely
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  positive guy? Zach.
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  Yes, he's blocked on mine too. I never.
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  Just in case it's ever. Yeah, what I'm thinking, and
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  correct me if I'm wrong, I feel like you're getting like, not
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  that I want to bring this into again Myspace.
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  I really have not had like any like crazy hate on any of my
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  like E collar stuff of recent. Even our one that we collabed on
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  wasn't. We had like one person that was
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  a little. Yeah.
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  Yeah. But otherwise it's been really
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  positive. I think that maybe yours is a
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  little bit more because you had such a influx with your dog
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  Diaries and I feel like that's such a different clientele than
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  the training E collar side of things is.
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  It's like dog mom central with the Diaries for sure.
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  Then I think that you're probably have a lot of people on
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  your page that followed you from that, that then are seeing this
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  and like, Oh my God, you, I didn't realize I was following a
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  demon. Yes, exactly.
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  Yeah, let's give you some anxiety before about like
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  posting about E collar stuff where now I'm like it's just a
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  different perspective. I I really am.
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  Actually, I'm more curious on like, why?
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  I know why, like the ridiculous reasons why people are against
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  it. And so I'm just don't like it
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  and that's it. But it's more like a curiosity
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  of like, Oh yeah. Like, so you really think that
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  there's electricity running through it?
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  Well, I wouldn't like it either. That wasn't yes, people truly I
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  I'll even have I will say like it's rare that I have to have
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  any sort of like real in depth conversations with my actual
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  owners on go home day. But once in a while, like
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  recently, I had an awesome family.
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  Their other dog is trained on the same E collar.
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  I didn't train them. That was when they lived out in
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  Colorado and they brought their kids that are very appropriate
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  age for the go home. And the son just asked the
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  question. He's like, I asked him if he
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  wanted to feel it. He's like, no, I don't want to
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  get electrocuted. And I was like, oh, I'm like,
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  well, this isn't even more of a reason that you need to feel it,
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  bud. And I was like, I was like, OK,
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  I just want to give you the difference of like electricity
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  is like they're going to use that for like on farms and stuff
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  when they need to keep like cows.
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  And that is an electric fence. There is electricity running
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  through that. And I was like, this is
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  electronic where you're you're not getting any sort of electric
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  shock, blah, blah, blah. So he felt it.
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  And of course he was just like, oh, you know, no big deal, but
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  people will. And that's the same thing,
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  myself included. Like we're all like the fear
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  mongering of any topic is so real on social media that like,
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  I'll even read some certain headlines.
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  It's maybe something about your health.
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  And I'll be like, Oh my God, like I'll believe it just 'cause
• 18:28
  I read it. And then I'm a smart enough
• 18:29
  human to be like, OK, let me do my own research about this.
• 18:33
  Like, is this just a fear mongering type of post to catch
• 18:35
  your attention? But people will read something
• 18:39
  online just and take it as fact. And it's like, OK, like I'm sure
• 18:46
  I, I'm sure I do it as well. But like I do try to come from a
• 18:49
  space being like, let me just like confirm this for myself.
• 18:52
  Do I feel good about it? If I don't, You and I are not in
• 18:55
  the business for convincing people to like any caller.
• 18:59
  No, I used to think I need to do that when I first started.
• 19:02
  Yeah. But where?
• 19:03
  No, it's exhausting. The business that I'm in now
• 19:05
  that I feel like, like I had a great example.
• 19:07
  I wanted to bring up your E collar post because I have
• 19:10
  probably, I've worked with a lot of very nervous dogs.
• 19:13
  This dog that got dropped off yesterday and I was working with
• 19:17
  her just a little bit ago. She's got to be top five or top
• 19:20
  three most skittish. Like we're not just talking like
• 19:23
  nervy like so skittish dogs that I've ever had like top five for
• 19:28
  sure. There's only one other dog that
• 19:29
  I can think was probably like a little bit more skittish than
• 19:33
  her and I didn't do any E collar work with her yesterday just
• 19:37
  because there was like barely even moving her around my kennel
• 19:39
  room. She was so panicked.
• 19:42
  But I did a little bit with her today and we have, we just
• 19:45
  scratched the surface, but just incorporating the E collar from
• 19:50
  yesterday. I was like, Oh my God, like it
• 19:54
  was incredible. Like it was, it's an example
• 19:56
  that I wish that you could really show and have people feel
• 19:59
  at the end of the leash. That was the biggest thing.
• 20:01
  Like she still looked because I mean, she got dropped off.
• 20:03
  Her dad had to carry her out of the car.
• 20:04
  Like she looks terrified of everything.
• 20:08
  Someone would see the context and see her with an E collar on
• 20:11
  and think the E collar caused that.
• 20:13
  Of course where? I'm seeing and feeling such a
• 20:16
  shift in one session with the E collar that like it almost felt
• 20:20
  like through the leash. She took a deep breath and I was
• 20:22
  like the fact that this dog would have potentially in a
• 20:27
  different home because I trained their prior dog.
• 20:30
  So they already knew that they were to send her would probably
• 20:33
  live like this forever. And she's going to be a dog that
• 20:37
  I do think will have a lot of. She's very similar to your last
• 20:43
  training dog. You have it, Hazel.
• 20:44
  Yeah. Where it's just like Hazel's
• 20:46
  probably always going to be a little nervy and she's probably
• 20:48
  always going to be freaked out by things.
• 20:49
  And like, it's not going to be she's probably always going to
• 20:51
  be a little bit of a flight risk off leash, like probably have a
• 20:54
  long line type of thing. But you even saw like the E
• 20:57
  collar probably changed her life, definitely changed her
• 21:02
  owners. And obviously it's not just
• 21:03
  putting the E collar on. And that's what fixed it.
• 21:06
  It changed things, but we hear the narrative all the time of
• 21:09
  like, don't use an E collar on a nervous dog.
• 21:12
  Yeah, I think that's probably one of the dogs that needs it
• 21:16
  the most. It.
• 21:17
  Felt. I know I remember repeating
• 21:19
  this. It felt like a deep breath at
• 21:20
  the end of the leash. And I'm like, I'm so happy for
• 21:23
  her because even though she was a little bit like, whoa, that's
• 21:28
  her baseline. She's being like so panicked, so
• 21:33
  freaked that she just took a break.
• 21:34
  She just took a pause. She didn't know how to take a
• 21:36
  pause before. And me giving just, you know, I
• 21:39
  was doing some tone work. But then I'm like, OK, this girl
• 21:41
  needs a little bit of like a similar to reactivity, like a
• 21:44
  nip in the butt of that state of mind.
• 21:46
  She went to go take off at the end of the leash and I just
• 21:49
  stem. And she was just like, oh.
• 21:51
  It's like snapping her out of it.
• 21:52
  Yes, and it's, you know, we're probably going to do that many,
• 21:55
  many more times before it kind of clicks.
• 21:57
  But I just, I think the the reason you and I even continue
• 22:01
  to post about anything like that is because the passion that we
• 22:04
  have for seeing the impact positively that it can make for
• 22:08
  dogs and owners. Oh yeah.
• 22:09
  Well, and it's just, I think it's wild to me where you could,
• 22:13
  because I feel like before and after footage is such a great
• 22:16
  way to share what's possible. And it's actually like this is
• 22:19
  actually what's happening where a lot of people who are against
• 22:22
  E collar, I don't like follow content about it, but I'm
• 22:24
  assuming it's like they just say words and words have a lot of
• 22:27
  power. And if someone's in a certain
• 22:29
  state of mind where they're like just looking for evidence of why
• 22:32
  this tool is bad, then they're going to latch on to that.
• 22:35
  But even like if I post like in that video about a dog before
• 22:39
  who's going crazy on the on the walk, who's reactive barking and
• 22:42
  then they're not. And it's like, shouldn't that be
• 22:44
  enough? Like, I don't, it's just so I
• 22:48
  think there's a lot of people that we're never going to
• 22:50
  convince and we're not trying to.
• 22:51
  But yeah, I, I think I was having an issue with, I don't
• 22:55
  want to let people who are loudest like on Facebook, which
• 23:00
  I Facebook just makes me crazy. But I don't want to let those
• 23:04
  people stop me from sharing what's possible for the owners
• 23:07
  who are struggling and the owners we've worked with and
• 23:09
  dogs we've worked with and this dog you're working with, you can
• 23:11
  see why it's so helpful, so. Totally well, and it's like I, I
• 23:16
  feel like the conversation around it too is like, you know,
• 23:20
  we talked about this as well like a lot of times, yes, we are
• 23:22
  using lower levels to like either condition the dog to it,
• 23:25
  but also I don't like to just glamorize that either like that
• 23:28
  number I needed to use to snap her out of her spastic state of
• 23:32
  mind. And again, I'm working with an E
• 23:34
  collar every single day, so I know where my timing needed to
• 23:37
  be and I knew like around where I need to be, but I was at like
• 23:39
  a 40 something and some people hear a 40 something and it's
• 23:43
  like, Oh my gosh, that's for a dog that's in a spastic state
• 23:48
  that's going to feel like A5 to a very calm, level minded
• 23:53
  indoor, the dog that's inside. So I also don't like I I tried
• 23:57
  to talk about as well as like we have to use those numbers that
• 24:00
  are meaningful in the moment because if we're just only
• 24:02
  talking about that's one thing all over the place.
• 24:06
  But I will even see some trainers.
• 24:08
  I've heard it in the past of being like, if you need to go
• 24:11
  much over a 15, like you're doing it wrong.
• 24:13
  I'm like, stop setting owners up to effing fail.
• 24:17
  That is unfair. That is not true, First off, and
• 24:22
  that might be true for certain dogs, but I know some of my
• 24:25
  owners like really reactive dog that I'm thinking about just
• 24:29
  because top of mind he can feel extremely low levels if you were
• 24:34
  to tap that during his prior to his reactive moments.
• 24:38
  Good luck. He lost him, he's gone.
• 24:41
  So I think you and I both do a good job of talking about like I
• 24:43
  was at a 55 there I was at a 70, whatever that may be.
• 24:49
  And I don't know how with your owners, but I'll tell the owner
• 24:53
  if you know what the highest number their dog was probably at
• 24:55
  when they were here. And yes, I always do.
• 24:58
  Yeah. And I just talked about it if
• 25:00
  it's very like matter of fact. And I said you might have to go
• 25:03
  there. You might not like it might have
• 25:04
  been that one situation was a one and done.
• 25:06
  Yeah, but I don't want to glamorize of like low level only
• 25:10
  because then people will continue to struggle with
• 25:13
  massively fearful dogs, massively reactive dogs, dogs
• 25:17
  honestly being Dicks and you're not being able to stop a
• 25:20
  behavior. Yes, Oh my gosh, I think.
• 25:25
  Because I think it could be so black and white where there's so
• 25:27
  much nuance, like you talking about how you were using it
• 25:29
  leash guidance to like if that's that's instinctual.
• 25:32
  So there is that part to it. But I think that a lot of people
• 25:36
  or you'll hear because they're trying to make the E collar seem
• 25:39
  like a positive thing where they're like, it's not painful
• 25:43
  or where it's to me, I like to just think of it as no, it can
• 25:48
  be uncomfortable at certain times like that.
• 25:50
  That is a part of the process, but it's a piece of it.
• 25:53
  It's like when you what's the, what's the dog's name that
• 25:55
  you're working with now? The fearful of Piper Piper.
• 25:57
  So when you use that level with her, which was really meaningful
• 25:59
  to her in the moment, it's a moment.
• 26:02
  It's not like you're tapping at 45 all day long.
• 26:04
  Like that's the thing and. In a different context, she's
• 26:07
  constantly uncomfortable. Yeah.
• 26:10
  Like except for outside, inside her home, her brain is in
• 26:14
  constant uncomfortability. And that is more detrimental to
• 26:19
  her than a quick moment of being like, whoa, OK, what was that?
• 26:23
  And I'll probably have to go higher than that with her.
• 26:25
  But this was our first session and just on my driveway.
• 26:29
  But I know if I even get her out in public, like her state of
• 26:33
  mind is not going to feel a 45. There's no way that content.
• 26:37
  Yeah. So I totally agree with you of
• 26:39
  like, I'll even have, you know, owners say stuff like, you know,
• 26:43
  and it doesn't hurt them or anything like that.
• 26:45
  And I'm like it, it doesn't like hurt such a you know, I think
• 26:49
  that's just more of an emotional term.
• 26:51
  But I do say like, I am not going to sit here and say like
• 26:53
  numbers over 50 are like super comfortable either.
• 26:56
  Like I'm not I'm like, you know, I would be like whoa, if I felt
• 27:00
  that on my hand. So I think it's just the more
• 27:02
  that people like just take a step back and talk about it in a
• 27:06
  way where it's like how we do, it's like realistically, yes, it
• 27:09
  can be something that's like uncomfortable because there's
• 27:12
  also some behaviors we want it to be uncomfortable.
• 27:14
  I'd rather my dog and I use this example a lot with my owners
• 27:17
  when we're working on like the recall and stuff is like, I'd
• 27:19
  rather than be uncomfortable for one moment.
• 27:22
  If they're chasing something they shouldn't be chasing then
• 27:24
  them running into a busy St. and getting hit by a car, that'd be
• 27:27
  way more uncomfortable for everyone.
• 27:28
  Yes, yeah. And so that's one thing where I,
• 27:31
  I have no desire to like get into what I used to do is get
• 27:36
  defensive where I would want to like not even prove so much, but
• 27:40
  it would like get my blood boiling, I guess.
• 27:44
  Like that seems dramatic but it would just get me annoyed like.
• 27:46
  Because you're passionate about it.
• 27:47
  Yes, but now it's more from that perspective of like being I
• 27:52
  guess curious about like, oh, well, if you think that about
• 27:55
  it, then of course you're against it.
• 27:56
  But also most people are not they don't want to learn more
• 28:00
  about it. So then that's another thing
• 28:01
  too. It's like we're sharing for the
• 28:02
  people that hopefully it's helpful and or can just like
• 28:06
  change something. I'm going to switch something
• 28:10
  real quick because I was thinking about what was the
• 28:13
  thing I was saying to your brother in Oh.
• 28:19
  My gosh. OK, so again, sweetest people on
• 28:23
  earth. Casey's brothers came to visit
• 28:26
  Casey, but this was all planned prior to our Airbnb.
• 28:30
  No, you're the nicest, is what I'm saying.
• 28:33
  Yeah, but like, they're, they're very nice too.
• 28:34
  But I'm just saying that you and Bobby were the nicest people on
• 28:37
  earth. And so Casey and his brothers
• 28:41
  had a separate Airbnb. They weren't like staying at
• 28:43
  Bethany and Bobby's or anything, but they were going to have like
• 28:47
  a really nice weather day. And we're like, can they come
• 28:49
  over to do a pool party? And Bethany, so cute, totally
• 28:53
  wanted to be like the pool party mom.
• 28:54
  So she goes inside and makes these cookies, Brown butter
• 28:57
  cookies. Yeah, brown butter cookies.
• 28:59
  I didn't even know you were going.
• 29:00
  Like, she got some fruit. She walks out and is like, does
• 29:03
  anybody want watermelon? And I'm like, oh, I'll have
• 29:06
  some. And I think that one of his
• 29:08
  brothers like, yeah, sure. All the piece.
• 29:09
  And then he literally saw us at my front door and like, ringing
• 29:14
  it. And Casey's on a call too.
• 29:16
  Hold on, let me just someone delivered.
• 29:20
  First, look how beautiful these are.
• 29:21
  Oh my God. Read the card on air.
• 29:24
  OK, read it. Yes.
• 29:27
  The reason? Because sometimes, like if
• 29:29
  people just ring the doorbell, it's obviously a delivery.
• 29:31
  But she rang it twice. Gosh, I bet you I know who this
• 29:37
  is. From what?
• 29:39
  Because I'm going to guess, but I'm I might be.
• 29:41
  Wrong. Don't say it.
• 29:42
  Don't say it out loud. Let me say, read it first.
• 29:45
  Don't guess first. Yeah, yeah.
• 29:47
  Yeah, I knew it. OK.
• 29:49
  Sending our love to you and Casey and Birdie.
• 29:51
  Love. Mom, Dad, Kristen, Luke and
• 29:53
  Eloise. My sister's always, well, my mom
• 29:56
  as well, but so good about sending flowers.
• 29:58
  And this totally looks like a bouquet my sister.
• 30:01
  That is beautiful. So nice.
• 30:05
  This is so beautiful. Is that a Peony in there?
• 30:09
  Wait, is there a pink flower? What's the pink flower?
• 30:11
  The. Little purple ones are peonies,
• 30:15
  but. I love a Peony that.
• 30:18
  Like orange one is gorgeous. I don't believe it there.
• 30:21
  So you can just kind of. See it?
• 30:23
  Oh my gosh, that's so nice. We don't need to edit that out.
• 30:26
  That was. Well my edit where I'm just like
• 30:29
  sitting here like I. Didn't know if it was like.
• 30:32
  No, I won't earn. Something.
• 30:34
  What did you you're saying have fun with them?
• 30:37
  What were you gonna do? Like talk to them through the
• 30:39
  ring. Well, yeah, you can talk to them
• 30:41
  through it if I needed to. So if it was like this is gonna
• 30:46
  sound bad, I was gonna say if it was a man at the door, I
• 30:47
  wouldn't go answer it. Would you just say like get away
• 30:51
  on the ring? I would just ignore it.
• 30:53
  Oh, OK. I'm like, hello, what do you
• 30:55
  need 'cause I didn't know if it was something that needed to be
• 30:56
  signed. I didn't order anything that
• 30:58
  would need to be signed, but yeah, yeah, yeah, that nice
• 31:02
  surprise. What were we talking about
• 31:04
  before that? Oh well, now I remember when I
• 31:06
  asked them if they've ever had it before.
• 31:07
  Yes, literally, she goes, she she offers watermelon.
• 31:11
  She goes, have you guys ever had watermelon before?
• 31:14
  And they, they're like, yeah, what?
• 31:17
  And then Bethany goes, I don't know why I'm acting like they're
• 31:20
  from a different country. Like we don't have watermelons
• 31:24
  in Wisconsin. Oh my.
• 31:28
  I think I asked them a second time.
• 31:30
  Or like, have you ever seen lizards or something stupid?
• 31:32
  I asked them one more thing where I was.
• 31:33
  And it was like the lizard thing wasn't stupid though.
• 31:36
  OK, what is that? Is that fit?
• 31:40
  I can't like there's no I I can't have rules for her because
• 31:44
  she just bites me. How do you?
• 31:46
  Stop a cat. I don't know.
• 31:48
  You don't like maybe a softy. You're a softy with her.
• 31:52
  She's scary. She, as she's been at me before,
• 31:56
  she's way. Nicer at your house.
• 31:58
  Like it was also very. Way nicer at your house.
• 32:03
  Oh, my gosh. Yeah.
• 32:05
  But there was something else that you asked them that I'm
• 32:07
  like Bethany. They're from Wisconsin, not
• 32:10
  Guatemala. Like, I don't know.
• 32:13
  I don't. Know what I was thinking?
• 32:15
  Oh and also I brought. OK, first of all, my nose is
• 32:18
  running it's allergy season here I think.
• 32:20
  All in crazy. God, but Oh my God, I the the
• 32:27
  time I have laughed the most is when we did the backward singing
• 32:29
  thing. Never laughed that hard in my
• 32:31
  life. Second to that is when you sent
• 32:34
  me the cover of Casey's first idea for his podcast episode.
• 32:38
  His podcast. Oh yeah, anyone that watches the
• 32:41
  video is going to get a real nice surprise right now.
• 32:49
  Why can we just look at all of this?
• 32:53
  I think the best part of it is he literally posted it without.
• 32:58
  He just like looks good. Like literally looked at it
• 33:00
  once, Like I like that. And like even like the font and
• 33:03
  stuff. I'm like, OK, yeah, it totally
• 33:05
  looks like your weirdest friend. You didn't look at anything
• 33:08
  beyond that. He didn't even he didn't notice
• 33:10
  the floating pizza. He didn't notice the two open
• 33:14
  signs. 2 magic 8 balls like the rubber ducky with a funnel on
• 33:23
  its head or whatever that is. A robot dog.
• 33:25
  Did you see that? That one is like so creepy AI
• 33:28
  and then. It's like a space gas station.
• 33:32
  A gas station and. Then when you said because I I
• 33:36
  thought I saw all the things, but you just said we're like,
• 33:38
  yeah, and his head is on a what is it?
• 33:41
  Crystal ball, crystal ball. He also didn't notice that.
• 33:45
  Oh my gosh. I laughed so hard at that.
• 33:48
  I felt embarrassed. I was sitting next to Bobby and
• 33:50
  I was like, Oh my God, I am laughing so hard at that.
• 33:54
  I was crying laughing. I took two screenshots of myself
• 33:56
  crying and I almost sent it to you.
• 33:58
  Bobby walked behind me. He was like why are you taking
• 34:00
  pictures of yourself? I was like, I want them to see
• 34:02
  how I'm crying. And Bobby probably gave it like
• 34:06
  a little giggle. Yes.
• 34:08
  Let Bobby laugh out loud. Well, I made him laugh out loud
• 34:12
  last night and I was like, am I the funniest person you know?
• 34:14
  100% He was like, let me think about it.
• 34:18
  Let me. Think about it.
• 34:19
  I'm like 100% yes. He laughs at like silly boy
• 34:25
  things that will be like on. Silly boy things.
• 34:28
  Like if there was like a a crude cartoon that was on and it was
• 34:32
  like a character making a joke, that's that's funny.
• 34:36
  Me either, really. I don't find that stuff.
• 34:38
  That's one thing I will say that's very interesting.
• 34:40
  Like, you know, a lot of guys make like Weiner jokes or like
• 34:45
  fart jokes or, you know, stuff like that, like that kind of
• 34:48
  show, that type of stuff. Casey never makes jokes about
• 34:52
  stuff like that, like or like sees reels about things that
• 34:55
  it's like about I. Don't know.
• 34:58
  Yeah, and he doesn't think they're funny, but like.
• 35:02
  Check out this penis video. Kate, this is hilarious.
• 35:05
  So funny. But then there's other things
• 35:07
  that I'm like, huh, this is what you find funny.
• 35:11
  Oh, he sent me a reel on Easter, OK, which was so nice.
• 35:17
  A lot of times people send me reels, they're not very funny
• 35:19
  and I have to fake lol, you know?
• 35:22
  But his was really hilarious. But I remember when we went, I
• 35:25
  went to the Home Depot. Obscure.
• 35:28
  Well, when we went to Home Depot, I think I told you this
• 35:31
  after he like almost threw up and thought it was funny, but I
• 35:34
  didn't cuz he was also kind of panicking about it.
• 35:37
  But on the drive back to our house, he was saying he was
• 35:42
  talking about stuff he sends to his brothers or whatever.
• 35:44
  Yeah. And he was like, I should send
• 35:46
  you some of them. And I'm like really?
• 35:47
  Do you think you should? Do you think I'm thinking you
• 35:49
  should send me? Probably.
• 35:51
  Not that you send to your brother.
• 35:53
  Yeah, I don't think I'd find it funny, but thanks, yeah.
• 35:54
  Thanks for thinking of me, yeah. Yeah, but probably he, yeah,
• 36:00
  it's very random things. Mm hmm.
• 36:03
  OK. What?
• 36:04
  What? Well, what were you?
• 36:05
  Saying I finished Love on the Spectrum.
• 36:08
  OK. Speaking of penis, when Connor
• 36:13
  says Ding Aling, you remember that part?
• 36:16
  No who? Who is he talking or his
• 36:19
  dingling to? Not his.
• 36:20
  Oh, that would be a whole other thing.
• 36:22
  Well, I could see that, but no, he was at in England with his at
• 36:26
  the time girlfriend and they were looking at the.
• 36:29
  Oh, yes, yes, yes, OK, yeah, I do remember that.
• 36:34
  How do you feel about Madison and Tyler?
• 36:38
  OK, wait, which ones are? Madison, they're the ones that
• 36:40
  got engaged. Oh, OK, it was scrunch nose
• 36:42
  thing. Yeah.
• 36:43
  Oh yeah, they're cute. I liked him a lot, them together
• 36:46
  a lot more this season. I felt like last season, the
• 36:50
  excessive kissing in front of like his parents in the kitchen
• 36:54
  and stuff or in front of her parents in the kitchen was hard
• 36:58
  for me to watch. Did you watch last season?
• 37:00
  I'm sure I did. There's the way I did it.
• 37:03
  You literally need to go back to that because even in the last
• 37:05
  episode when the dad's giving a speech at their engagement
• 37:08
  party, he even makes mention of the excessive kissing.
• 37:14
  I do love Madison's dad, he's so cute.
• 37:16
  Love. He's like an actor, so natural.
• 37:20
  Yes, and you can just tell like you can tell dads that have
• 37:25
  girls they they just have. I'm not saying that boy dads
• 37:30
  can't be like this, but they just have hearts that it's like
• 37:32
  it's because you have a daughter.
• 37:33
  Yeah. So, so it's just like him
• 37:36
  talking about Madison and probably just again, them
• 37:40
  talking about the things that they thought she would never do.
• 37:42
  Yeah. Just and he's just like
• 37:44
  captivating and she's just sitting there with her scrunched
• 37:47
  nose but also looks a little uncomfortable.
• 37:49
  It was just so sweet so. Sweet.
• 37:52
  I think it's so funny that you don't like.
• 37:54
  Well, not that you don't like him, but his voice.
• 37:56
  You don't like Dylan? I love him.
• 37:59
  Yeah, yeah. Again, it's not that I don't
• 38:01
  like him as a person, but he's definitely not my favorite.
• 38:04
  I love how he says per SE. What does that even mean per SE?
• 38:09
  Like you end a conversation like the sky is blue per SE.
• 38:14
  Is that because he also speaks Spanish?
• 38:16
  Is that I don't know, I'm not totally sure.
• 38:19
  Maybe, I'm not totally sure, look it up.
• 38:22
  Did you catch on his date at that?
• 38:28
  I don't know why. Yeah, I jumped to thinking.
• 38:30
  I know what you're saying. The date at that, like Western
• 38:33
  Place, has a set of handcuffs on his pants.
• 38:38
  Yeah. I did.
• 38:41
  I was like, are the handcuffs necessary?
• 38:44
  And my sister's like, Oh my God, I didn't even notice those.
• 38:49
  I just, it's so funny like cuz when, what would he say?
• 38:53
  Oh, where he well, it's just little things cuz they're not
• 38:57
  like they're not thinking things through like we do obviously.
• 39:00
  So they just say what comes to mind And when him and someone
• 39:03
  else I think like Logan, we also love.
• 39:08
  Yeah, I do love him. What about the date at his
• 39:11
  house? He was.
• 39:12
  So nervous. And then his dirty room.
• 39:17
  Why? Why didn't someone, his sister
• 39:19
  or mom go in and clean it with him?
• 39:21
  He has. Literal pee soaked socks on his
• 39:24
  bed drying because those dogs pee all over.
• 39:30
  And like, again, this is editing, so I'm sure we just
• 39:32
  missed it. Yeah, yeah.
• 39:33
  When she was there, the dog pees on the floor and like, it made
• 39:37
  it look like no one cleaned it up.
• 39:39
  It did. I was beyond like, I think that
• 39:44
  I'm sure you're similar. Like, I think I watch shows and
• 39:47
  see like dogs in them and I'm a little judgy.
• 39:52
  Oh for sure. You can't help it.
• 39:53
  I'm like. What are we doing?
• 39:55
  Like why are we calling an 11 month old puppy like we're still
• 39:58
  on E training and it's peeing all over the floor like what is
• 40:01
  going on? So I was just like so.
• 40:04
  I felt overstimulated on that date.
• 40:06
  Yes, he was. He was so stressed.
• 40:08
  Yes. And he didn't want anyone to
• 40:10
  help him make his dinner. And then she got there and the
• 40:12
  conversation was really awkward. So there's so many awkward
• 40:15
  moments. Oh again, could be a little bit
• 40:18
  of editing, but also I was like I.
• 40:21
  Can't Who's the redhead girl in Utah?
• 40:24
  Emma So on her dates, there were times where I had to Fast
• 40:28
  forward because it's just them standing there not talking a lot
• 40:30
  of times. I feel like they need to give
• 40:32
  them some guidance of like when they first meet up, like let's
• 40:36
  go for a walk. Like why are we having people
• 40:38
  stand and talk not at like a coffee shop, not like there's
• 40:44
  nothing like they don't even have emotional support water
• 40:46
  bottles. Like I I would feel awkward just
• 40:49
  standing there with a brand new person making small talk.
• 40:53
  Yeah, yeah, Yeah. Well, I guess it makes for good
• 40:55
  TV. They maybe would think like
• 40:57
  there was time, one time with Logan when he went to the one
• 40:59
  place where there were the snattle snakes, rattlesnakes.
• 41:03
  Rattlesnakes. Yeah.
• 41:04
  Reasoner. And there's a part where he's
• 41:06
  like, he tells her, close your eyes, don't look.
• 41:09
  And he's walking and not helping her.
• 41:10
  So she's just walking her eyes. And then Keenan was like, you
• 41:15
  might want to hold her hand. He's like, Oh my God.
• 41:16
  Yeah, so. I forgot it is so good.
• 41:22
  So funny. Yeah, there's so many funny
• 41:24
  parts. I almost wrote down a list of
• 41:26
  things, so I was like, Oh my God, there's so many things I
• 41:28
  need to talk to Kate about. Another season of that.
• 41:31
  Yes. There's got to be I hope.
• 41:33
  I would love to see you the next season now that Georgie and
• 41:36
  Connor are broken up and Georgie is in a new relationship now.
• 41:40
  I saw it on Instagram. Connor, I feel like has had
• 41:45
  since season 1 so much growth that I feel like now like dating
• 41:50
  because it's like with people are like so sad that him and
• 41:54
  Georgie broke up and stuff like that.
• 41:55
  I'm like, it's his first relationship.
• 41:57
  Like I'm so glad that they gave both of them an experience to
• 42:00
  date and to like get out of their comfort zones and you
• 42:04
  know, but I, I think it was a great call.
• 42:06
  They you could tell they were definitely not made for each
• 42:08
  other. And he's had so much growth that
• 42:11
  I want to see him like dating now.
• 42:12
  I'd love to see him because in the beginning he was so
• 42:15
  sheltered and so like easily stressed that I remember on his
• 42:19
  first one, like right in front of the girl when you could like
• 42:22
  check off yes or no if you like, like them and like right in
• 42:25
  front of the girl. He's just like writing X on no.
• 42:28
  And I'm like, oh, no, Connor, you can't do that.
• 42:31
  Where now I feel like he's got all like the nuances of dating
• 42:34
  down that we need to see a whole.
• 42:37
  I mean, there should just be a short show on Connor.
• 42:40
  But seriously, like when he gets a little tipsy off a little
• 42:43
  beer. Sassy.
• 42:44
  He's like, he's like, Oh my gosh, it was.
• 42:51
  And again, could be editing, but was that one beer that he was
• 42:54
  like? He was like chugging it down.
• 42:56
  Oh my God. And he was like, really?
• 42:58
  You could see, I could even see his eyes turning, like his
• 43:00
  pupils getting bigger, like people are someone watching him
• 43:04
  because I feel like he could just go off.
• 43:07
  Totally. Yeah.
• 43:08
  Oh my gosh. Update.
• 43:10
  Did I tell you guys the last podcast about my bird feeders?
• 43:15
  We talked about this. You got in?
• 43:16
  Yeah. I might have over committed what
• 43:19
  we have. We have 44.
• 43:21
  In the same area. On our deck.
• 43:24
  Have you seen any? Birds, Bethany Have I seen any
• 43:27
  birds? It is a bird sanctuary out
• 43:29
  there. We have so many types of birds.
• 43:32
  They're on there right now. We've had woodpeckers, we've had
• 43:36
  yellow finches, we've had Cardinals, we've had all of
• 43:40
  these different types of birds and it is bringing us so much
• 43:43
  joy. Wait, take your phone.
• 43:45
  Take a picture of what's over there now.
• 43:47
  OK, well I will just show you. I have a couple of saved videos
• 43:50
  that I can show you. That you have to send me these
• 43:53
  birds. I would love to be in some part
• 43:57
  of my life, a bird watcher where that's just what I do.
• 44:00
  So. Oh my God.
• 44:03
  I know they're just a little yellow pinches.
• 44:07
  That's just one of the bird feeders.
• 44:09
  And then I've got a video of the woodpecker on another one.
• 44:15
  I know. Oh look, it's fine up on it.
• 44:18
  Oh my God, I did not wait for you guys to experience it in
• 44:21
  August because oh, and then we put our stool in front of the
• 44:24
  door the other day for Jessie to just look out and watch.
• 44:28
  But we're constantly now because, well, I should say we
• 44:32
  have 3 bird feeders out on the deck and one of them is a
• 44:34
  Hummingbird feeder. I think it's a little early for
• 44:37
  hummingbirds here, but I'm like, I'll put it out and hopefully
• 44:39
  they'll find it. And then we have one out front
• 44:41
  on the tree that we're just calling the squirrel feeder.
• 44:44
  And I think that that's helping keep the squirrels from the deck
• 44:47
  ones because we've only seen 1 squirrel trying to get it on the
• 44:50
  deck. That was the only thing I was
• 44:51
  like, I do not want a deck just covered in squirrels.
• 44:55
  Oh my God. I'd be sending the dogs out
• 44:57
  there to chase them off, but so the front one's just kind of
• 45:00
  turned into the squirrel feeder and these, our birds are
• 45:03
  thriving. You know, I feel like you should
• 45:05
  get some even just so you could see it out your front window.
• 45:09
  I've tried it before and they didn't come to that one, they
• 45:11
  came to the one in the back. But I should put, I should try
• 45:14
  and again do. Do it like in a stand a little
• 45:16
  bit like in because did you try putting it like on your tree or
• 45:20
  where did you try? No, it was like there's a hook
• 45:24
  in our house. So I had it hanging from that
• 45:27
  like on our front porch poster to the front porch.
• 45:29
  Yeah, OK. Yeah.
• 45:30
  Maybe put it like actually in your yard, like buy your tree or
• 45:35
  something in a stake so that they can like kind of jump from
• 45:38
  the tree to their bird feeder. But literally I had to get
• 45:41
  another one just because I wanted to be able to see it.
• 45:43
  If I'm in the kitchen, I want to see one.
• 45:45
  If I'm on the chair, I want to see one.
• 45:47
  And if I'm right here, I want to see one.
• 45:48
  So now it's I see them at all points.
• 45:52
  I think that is one of the best things ever because you were
• 45:54
  like bringing little moments of joy throughout your day.
• 45:57
  Because you never know what you're going to see.
• 45:59
  I was driving in earlier. I went on an outing and I drove
• 46:01
  in. They were nuts.
• 46:03
  And I just like feel every time I'm pulling in, I'm like, I
• 46:06
  wonder what's going to be on there.
• 46:08
  Yes, that is the case. And I were like, look, look,
• 46:11
  look the other day and we're like, is this what like mid 30s
• 46:14
  is, is like these are the things you're super excited about?
• 46:18
  Yes, because I felt it my last few years of my 30s.
• 46:23
  I think so. I think it's all things like
• 46:25
  slowing down, being like present in something, you know, It's
• 46:29
  gotta be that. It has to be because it is.
• 46:32
  Just so there's this. I will say there's a couple of
• 46:35
  birds that I'm getting a little annoyed with.
• 46:36
  They're seeming to bully my other my little yellow finches,
• 46:40
  so trying to figure that one out.
• 46:42
  But they look like. What do the bullies look like?
• 46:44
  They're kind of, they're bigger. They're not quite as big as I
• 46:47
  just saw one out there. They're not quite as big as the
• 46:51
  woodpecker, but they're very deep brown.
• 46:53
  They're actually a really pretty like brown bird, but they Peck
• 46:58
  at the yellow ones. I thought getting more fingers
• 47:02
  would fix that, but it's just made everyone more wild.
• 47:06
  Oh my gosh. It is so fun.
• 47:08
  That is so fun, I'm so happy. My goal is to be, now that it's
• 47:11
  getting warmer out, to be able to put the cushions out there
• 47:13
  and then start to trust coming up to the feeder while I'm out
• 47:16
  there. While you're sitting out there,
• 47:17
  you're. Gonna sit there still because
• 47:20
  they have such good vision. If we start to, they're already
• 47:22
  getting better. Listen to me.
• 47:23
  I'm like, they're my pets. But like when we first put them
• 47:27
  out there, if we walked up to even just the window, like the
• 47:30
  sliding glass door, they all fly off.
• 47:32
  Now I can walk up to it and they stay.
• 47:35
  But if I do go to open the door, understandably they hear like
• 47:38
  the latch they have to playoff. So I just need to start like
• 47:41
  sitting out there really still and just blinking a little bit.
• 47:45
  Oh my God, what if one lands on your head like.
• 47:48
  They'll be amazing. I love birds so much.
• 47:50
  I want to start like putting my finger out there, like seeing a
• 47:54
  thing like with I'll Be Snow White and they land on my
• 47:57
  finger. I'm telling you, once you you're
• 48:00
  going to, once you name one of them that keeps coming back,
• 48:03
  that's it. It's done.
• 48:05
  That's done. I will say with our windows, we
• 48:08
  are used to having birds hit them and fall on top of the
• 48:12
  pergola. But and that was always sad, but
• 48:16
  one of the yellow ones did and that was that feels sad because
• 48:21
  I'm like now I love like now they're like the family, the
• 48:25
  window. So there's on the pergola,
• 48:27
  there's a dead yellow one. Do you ever have you ever
• 48:31
  thought about this where like because you did your insect
• 48:33
  book? By the way, I have the full
• 48:36
  thing to read to you guys. That's right.
• 48:40
  OK, Well, have you ever like the other day, like one time I when
• 48:43
  I was going in the car and I'm driving away and there's a
• 48:46
  lizard in the hood or like on the window and I immediately
• 48:50
  think, Oh my God, I'm taking him away from his family.
• 48:54
  OK, You ever thought that? Yeah, I would think more of
• 48:56
  like, Oh my gosh, if he flies off like while I'm driving,
• 49:00
  yeah, he's is he gonna like survive the like if I have like
• 49:04
  AI don't have lizards, but I've had it before where like a
• 49:07
  dragonfly is has landed on my windshield and I'm like at least
• 49:10
  they can fly. But like should I stop and try
• 49:13
  to get him off so that they can like?
• 49:17
  Oh, see, I think it's going. To end up in.
• 49:18
  That different community and who knows what these communities are
• 49:22
  like. This is where my mind goes.
• 49:24
  Oh, that makes a lot of sense. But we don't have lizards.
• 49:25
  I'm sure I would think that because I don't have anything I
• 49:27
  can think of. It's like there's not like a
• 49:28
  squirrel sitting on my like that's like I that's like the
• 49:32
  closest thing I think that we have to lizards is like
• 49:35
  squirrels. What?
• 49:37
  No. I know.
• 49:40
  But like, you see lizards, like we see squirrels.
• 49:42
  That's kind of what I mean. Like there's like lizards
• 49:44
  running all over the place. There's just squirrels running
• 49:46
  all over the place. I don't see, thank goodness,
• 49:48
  mice running all over. The place.
• 49:49
  Oh, yeah, By the way, you were terrified.
• 49:51
  That's a fear of yours. Irrational.
• 49:54
  So Casey, gosh, the other day Casey was doing an update of
• 49:59
  something down in our basement that he needed to like get the
• 50:01
  exhaust pipe from our water heater.
• 50:04
  I don't know, something to the outside.
• 50:06
  So he had to like go into like the roofing part of, I don't
• 50:10
  know, something that had a dead mouse was up there.
• 50:14
  It's the outdoor portion of the lip of our roof basically.
• 50:19
  And so he's like, I need your help just holding this pipe
• 50:23
  while I'm doing something. And I said, is the dead mouse
• 50:26
  still up there? He's like, yeah.
• 50:27
  But Kate, I'm like, no, I'm out. I'm not doing it.
• 50:31
  Like I can't, I can't even see it.
• 50:33
  I will even if it like I can't do it.
• 50:36
  You can't even see it. No does.
• 50:39
  It make me want to just like run away.
• 50:41
  It makes me want to literally cut, crawl out of my skin.
• 50:45
  I get it. It makes me, it is so
• 50:48
  irrational. I get so panicked that I'm the
• 50:52
  honestly dead mouse. Mice are worse for me than live
• 50:55
  mice. I don't, I don't know, I don't
• 50:58
  want to see it. Like I literally think it's
• 51:00
  going to come back to life while it's like laying there.
• 51:03
  I I don't know it is, I can't see it.
• 51:05
  I also don't want to be that close to a dead animal.
• 51:08
  Like like my eyes are right there.
• 51:11
  And so I was like, I'm not, I can't.
• 51:13
  And he's like, Kate, I really need your help in this night.
• 51:16
  Clear out the dead mouse. So I'm like, call, call me back
• 51:19
  when you're ready. So I told him that was a strong
• 51:23
  boundary for me and I I stuck to.
• 51:25
  It because we don't care. I don't care.
• 51:27
  I don't care. I don't care for my.
• 51:30
  Husband OK, I don't care. I didn't read it.
• 51:33
  I I was like, I'm gonna wait till like I've read it obviously
• 51:35
  before, but I haven't read it since.
• 51:38
  And so I was like your child. No, like I've read it probably
• 51:41
  like a year, a year and a half ago when I saw it at my parents.
• 51:44
  But like my sister took pictures of all of it when she was
• 51:46
  visiting for me. So it's called little buggy.
• 51:50
  So to update, it was not about a snail.
• 51:52
  It's about a little bug and I couldn't remember.
• 51:55
  I know I was talking to you guys about how it was like about
• 51:58
  something with this bug's weight.
• 52:01
  I thought it was about being bigger, but it's about being
• 52:03
  really small. But clearly I was just trying to
• 52:06
  like, reverse how I was feeling. OK.
• 52:08
  Little Buggy. Written and illustrated by
• 52:10
  Caitlin Marie Kane. Candy Cane Books.
• 52:13
  LLC. Like I have a whole publishing
• 52:16
  page. I should probably shouldn't put
• 52:17
  my ad, my parents address on there Dedication.
• 52:20
  I dedicate this book to my mom because when I was younger she
• 52:23
  would always read me my favorite children's books and it meant a
• 52:26
  lot to me. Thanks, mom.
• 52:27
  I love you. Oh, that's so cute.
• 52:31
  All right, here we go. I'll try to go through this
• 52:33
  quickly. Have you ever been made fun of
• 52:35
  because of your size? Well, Marsha the bug knows very
• 52:39
  well how that is. Marsha is the smallest bug in
• 52:42
  her school. She has bright blue eyes and
• 52:46
  starry eyelashes. How cute.
• 52:48
  Starry. Look at this illustration of
• 52:50
  this toilet. Oh, she's so.
• 52:53
  Tangy on the toilet. She gets made fun of every day
• 52:57
  by her classmates. She comes home and balls in her
• 53:01
  bathroom. Marsha has no clue why people
• 53:04
  won't just be her friend whenever she goes to school.
• 53:10
  She doesn't have confidence to play or talk to other bugs.
• 53:13
  Marcia knows they won't accept her.
• 53:15
  When Marcia wanted to be taller, she tried a lot of things.
• 53:20
  This is her on the outskirts while everyone's playing, Not
• 53:23
  with Marcia. Yeah, she tried wearing lots of
• 53:27
  socks, taller hair, jumping every second, and wearing high
• 53:32
  heels. Oh.
• 53:34
  My God. This is depressing.
• 53:37
  When Marsha goes to school wearing her mom's high heels,
• 53:40
  people stare at her meanly and rude because they think she
• 53:43
  looks dumb. Oh my God.
• 53:44
  I think I. Need to go to therapy for this.
• 53:47
  She always sits alone at lunch and has a frown on her face.
• 53:51
  She tries to hide her face so no one will see her frowning face.
• 53:56
  Every day for a week she wore heels but other bugs never
• 54:00
  noticed. Her mom tells her to go to
• 54:02
  school normally and see what happens.
• 54:05
  Sweetie go to school normally I love you.
• 54:07
  OK mom. Marsha goes to school normally
• 54:11
  and that didn't help. They just ignored her like
• 54:13
  nothing happened. Little Marsha tried anything she
• 54:18
  could to do to make herself look taller and bigger.
• 54:20
  She was so uncomfortable and wished they would accept her for
• 54:23
  who she is. She stopped wearing high heels
• 54:26
  and jumping every second. Marsha would jump all the time
• 54:29
  to appear tall, but she didn't like doing that at all.
• 54:32
  She wanted to think of a way to make people accept her.
• 54:35
  Marsha thinks. And then she realizes I have to
• 54:38
  introduce myself to show people it doesn't matter what you look
• 54:41
  like. Hi, my name is Marsha, I'm
• 54:45
  eleven years old. And the girl replied.
• 54:47
  Hi, I'm Fantasia. Aren't you the girl that gets
• 54:50
  made fun of? Yes, says Marsha.
• 54:53
  Sadly. I think that is rude, explains
• 54:56
  Fantasia. Thank you, Fantasia.
• 54:58
  You're welcome, Marsha. Marsha thinks about it, is glad
• 55:02
  she introduced herself to Fantasia, She wants to meet more
• 55:05
  people like her. Then I drew some more pictures.
• 55:08
  Marsha and Fantasia played at each other's golden brown logs
• 55:12
  every day after Red Gold Mound Bucky School.
• 55:15
  They both enjoyed playing with each other.
• 55:19
  Marcia's mom was happy to see Marcia playing with other bugs.
• 55:23
  Marcia called her mom. Yes mom, I'm happy to see you
• 55:27
  playing with Fantasia. Exclaimed her mom.
• 55:29
  Thanks mom, I'm happy too, Said Marcia.
• 55:33
  Marcia's mom is very nice. She made them both leave patties
• 55:36
  for lunch, which is Marcia's favorite.
• 55:39
  Fantasia enjoyed going over to Marcia's log because her family
• 55:43
  is so nice. They didn't care if people would
• 55:46
  make fun of them for being friends because they like each
• 55:48
  other. Marcia and Fantasia became great
• 55:51
  friends. Marcia finds introducing herself
• 55:53
  to other bugs is all right and they will accept her for who she
• 55:56
  is. When you see someone or
• 55:58
  something, get to know them first before you judge them by
• 56:01
  their appearance. The End.
• 56:05
  Wow. Like tell me that I'm not
• 56:09
  speaking about something without telling me.
• 56:12
  Telling me. Oh my gosh, you want to?
• 56:15
  See a picture of 7th grade Kate. Yes.
• 56:22
  Oh, this was. Weird, look at my space between
• 56:28
  my teeth. Oh my gosh, then I had a hole.
• 56:33
  About the Author collection. Oh my gosh.
• 56:37
  Oh. You wrote this when you were in
• 56:38
  7th grade. I yeah, I guess I was. 1211.
• 56:45
  11-O Hold on. How old did I say it was?
• 56:49
  I wrote it in here. I don't remember that.
• 56:53
  I had to have been. Yeah, I was like 11.
• 56:55
  Is that 7th grade? Must have been.
• 56:58
  I don't. I'm not sure.
• 57:02
  I don't know, but I mean, I put that picture in here, that's got
• 57:06
  to be like an 11 year old, right?
• 57:07
  I don't know. Well, that looks 11 year old.
• 57:10
  Yeah, but I don't know what anyway.
• 57:12
  I'm a 7th grader so I was in 7th grade, so whatever you are in
• 57:15
  7th grade, that's my bug book. Who did you know named Marsha?
• 57:21
  Did you just come up with that name?
• 57:23
  And no one. Wow.
• 57:27
  I just, that's just what was in my brain.
• 57:29
  Oh. My gosh.
• 57:31
  Gosh, yeah. So that was it's sad, but.
• 57:35
  Also, it is sad. It's.
• 57:37
  Really sad. Wow.
• 57:38
  Well, I'm glad that you're like really confident now because
• 57:40
  otherwise I'd be like, are you OK?
• 57:42
  Like, you know. This to us.
• 57:45
  Blink twice if you don't feel safe.
• 57:48
  The bug story. The bug story?
• 57:52
  Yeah. Did you like my green fabric
• 57:55
  cover? Loved.
• 57:57
  Yeah, I'm telling you, the special touches were everything.
• 57:59
  Candy cane. Books.
• 58:01
  I mean, hello, entrepreneur at its finest.
• 58:04
  I genuinely think you need to write, whether it's a children's
• 58:07
  book or just like a fiction, something short like that, just
• 58:14
  whatever comes to your brain. And like that, first draft is
• 58:17
  your book. The first.
• 58:19
  Draft. Yep, I would love to read your
• 58:21
  first draft but look at what you did with the lizards.
• 58:24
  Like that's just like, it had to have been just a brain dump.
• 58:27
  Oh. But it was so creative.
• 58:30
  Well, I love that 'cause I can piece stuff together like, oh, I
• 58:33
  think. About it judgy lizards, judgy
• 58:35
  lizards mentally gear. I wouldn't have thought like
• 58:38
  even the ripped out pieces of paper, I was like, I love how
• 58:41
  that. Looks deliberate.
• 58:43
  I had a lot of little bitch pieces, yeah.
• 58:45
  So good. Yeah, You just need to write
• 58:47
  like a 25 short, 25 page book, whatever comes to your brain.
• 58:53
  And I would love to read it. OK, cuz I, I do have I told you
• 58:56
  about the Lizzie, the ladybug, which the other day I saved a
• 59:01
  little Caterpillar that was in my kitchen, put it into one of
• 59:05
  our garden beds. And I had that thought of like,
• 59:07
  Oh my God, he's in a whole different community now.
• 59:09
  Like, where are his parents? And then I was when I put him
• 59:12
  down, I was thinking, Oh my God, I could write like from the
• 59:16
  perspective of like the little Caterpillar or or ladybugs.
• 59:19
  The ladybug landed on my finger the other day at lunch
• 59:22
  yesterday. Sign obviously.
• 59:24
  Yeah, and it's. I need you to write it.
• 59:26
  Yeah, two birds just landed in this Bush outside, so I
• 59:28
  obviously need go get. A bird feeder, Yeah, I will do
• 59:31
  that. I'm going to send you the bird
• 59:32
  feeder that we ordered. I.
• 59:34
  Need that one. That has been the most popular.
• 59:36
  OK. There's two that we got that
• 59:38
  have been so super popular and I will actually say they've been
• 59:42
  pretty squirrel proof. OK so do you got it on the
• 59:45
  Amazon? Oh OK cuz I got mine from the
• 59:48
  Ace Hardware and I had to put a little block of something.
• 59:51
  I don't think they like that. Oh yeah, I know what type you're
• 59:53
  talking about. Yeah, we didn't have, we did one
• 59:56
  of those I think last year and we didn't have as good of luck
• 59:58
  with that. Literally only thing that wanted
• 1:00:00
  it was. Squirrels.
• 1:00:01
  OK, that was our problem. Is like bird seed.
• 1:00:04
  You have to fill it. It's perfect.
• 1:00:06
  I would love that. I want nothing more than just
• 1:00:09
  didn't watch birds. Like technically, can your
• 1:00:12
  chickens eat bird seed? I don't think like, I mean, I
• 1:00:17
  have them on some bougie chicken food.
• 1:00:20
  Like would it be bad for them if they got a little bit?
• 1:00:22
  I don't think so. Because I even feel like if you
• 1:00:24
  put in a steak, like to keep your dogs out in where your
• 1:00:28
  chickens are and then like put one of your feeders on top,
• 1:00:31
  they're just some of it would obviously fall.
• 1:00:33
  But that would be so nice for you to be able to watch them
• 1:00:35
  from your back porch. Yeah, because that's what I
• 1:00:37
  would love. Yeah, I feel like since the dogs
• 1:00:40
  obviously you can't get into the chicken area, you'd obviously
• 1:00:42
  have to do your research of like, if my chickens eat this,
• 1:00:45
  will it be OK? Yeah, well, it's just the
• 1:00:47
  squirrels that were just ruining the whole experience.
• 1:00:50
  But I ever tell you when I was a little girl, how my mom would
• 1:00:52
  take me to Park Ave. and I would take.
• 1:00:55
  Birds if she started young. Oh, yeah, She would take me over
• 1:00:58
  there. I love that.
• 1:00:59
  Yeah. And we would be like in the
• 1:01:01
  field or the green area. I would have.
• 1:01:04
  You can't see me. I would have bird feet in my
• 1:01:05
  hands. Put them out beside me.
• 1:01:07
  Pigeons. No.
• 1:01:09
  Would jump on my hands and arms. Oh my gosh, yeah.
• 1:01:14
  Why doesn't anyone do that anymore?
• 1:01:15
  I feel like did they like tell you to not do it?
• 1:01:19
  It's probably frowned upon I would think.
• 1:01:22
  Just creating like a pigeon frenzy.
• 1:01:24
  Yeah, because I think people in like New York call them like
• 1:01:27
  flying rats. Oh, yeah, And I saw some people
• 1:01:30
  were fighting against that, Yeah.
• 1:01:33
  Oh my God, we were just like a little pigeon collar at a young
• 1:01:37
  age. I'm telling you, the one time
• 1:01:39
  when I saved a bird when I was going into the sauna, did I tell
• 1:01:42
  you that? I disagreed with you as if I
• 1:01:45
  knew what you're talking about. You're rubbing off on me.
• 1:01:48
  Well, when I was going into this place, it was like a, you go in
• 1:01:50
  and it's a infrared sauna place. So you like rent a little
• 1:01:54
  cubicle and outside there was a bird that I thought was like
• 1:01:57
  dead. And so I'm like, Oh my God.
• 1:01:59
  I go inside, ask for a box, put it in the box, take it into the
• 1:02:02
  room. I paid a little extra to be in a
• 1:02:04
  room that also has a shower so I could try to do the cold plunge
• 1:02:07
  and sauna experience. You brought the bird into the.
• 1:02:10
  OK, it was a news story. OK, so it was it was closed and
• 1:02:14
  there was a girl in the front and she was younger.
• 1:02:16
  And so she was like, oh, sure. Like, you know, she's not the
• 1:02:18
  owner, obviously. So OK, so bring it in.
• 1:02:21
  It starts fluttering in the box. It's alive because birds don't
• 1:02:25
  just, like, die. They just, they play dead, I
• 1:02:27
  think. Because it's fluttering around
• 1:02:30
  because they hit last. Yeah.
• 1:02:32
  And then luckily this one came too.
• 1:02:34
  Yes, because I was saved it because another bird was like
• 1:02:37
  going after it. Oh my.
• 1:02:39
  Anyway, so what'd you do with it?
• 1:02:41
  Just brought up and opened it, flew out.
• 1:02:43
  Yeah, opened it. It flew away.
• 1:02:44
  Oh good. I'll tell you one more time,
• 1:02:46
  because this is going to go. Into like we could flower land.
• 1:02:49
  More bird stories too, but we'll end on yours.
• 1:02:51
  OK, so one time I was working with a chocolate lab.
• 1:02:56
  His bird hunting instinct was strong.
• 1:02:58
  Hers. Oh, I'm doing long line recall
• 1:03:02
  with her outside of the dog park.
• 1:03:03
  She catches a bird in her mouth, holds it in her mouth.
• 1:03:08
  Soft. Soft.
• 1:03:10
  OK. That's good soft out.
• 1:03:13
  I don't know what I said, but I like.
• 1:03:15
  Like. I call my friend who's into
• 1:03:20
  animal stuff like with the other chickens and I'm like, what do I
• 1:03:22
  do? Like, so I call this exotic
• 1:03:26
  animal place, take the bird to this place, but I'm sure that
• 1:03:31
  they're not like doing surgery on a random pigeon, you know, So
• 1:03:35
  I but anyway, it made me feel better that I took it to the
• 1:03:38
  place. Yes.
• 1:03:39
  Cuz it was not to like make this about E collars, but like this
• 1:03:45
  is how we are about animals. Like we will try to save a bird.
• 1:03:50
  I had, which is again, wild. I had fancy mice growing up,
• 1:03:54
  which I'm irrationally I I think that's the problem.
• 1:03:57
  I think that ruined it for me as I look at them as like a pet.
• 1:04:02
  Yeah, and just that specific kind.
• 1:04:04
  But then like, I don't want them in my I don't know.
• 1:04:07
  But I had mice and their names were Laverne and Shirley.
• 1:04:10
  And Shirley got sick and I went to go bring her also to an
• 1:04:15
  exotic pet situation. My mom, you know, 'cause I'm
• 1:04:18
  bawling. And I was like, well, we can go
• 1:04:20
  bring, bring it in. And I think they looked at me as
• 1:04:23
  if I was insane because they're just like, it's, it's a mouse.
• 1:04:26
  Like, what are you going to do? And like, there was no help.
• 1:04:30
  Like she was, she was going to be dying.
• 1:04:32
  And so they're like, oh, like we can take her and like put her
• 1:04:34
  down. They fed it to a snake.
• 1:04:36
  I'm sure there's no way they like took and put this mouse
• 1:04:39
  down like and. Yeah, like played some Enya
• 1:04:41
  music. Yeah, no.
• 1:04:42
  No, they didn't do any sort of like I didn't get a paw print
• 1:04:44
  sent in the mail of like my little mouse.
• 1:04:48
  But I'm like, the little thing was I, I will even try to like
• 1:04:51
  not hit a Caterpillar if I'm like, if I get driving because
• 1:04:55
  they're crazy around here in the fall.
• 1:04:57
  When you're driving, you see it, oh, on the road.
• 1:04:59
  Yeah, on the road. Like they're the fuzzy one.
• 1:05:03
  You can see that from your car. Yeah.
• 1:05:06
  You have like Superman eyesight. What is this?
• 1:05:09
  I don't know. I can see them.
• 1:05:10
  Yes. Oh.
• 1:05:11
  My God. Yeah.
• 1:05:13
  Or if I'm like walking, I like clearly, obviously avoid walking
• 1:05:16
  over them. But I'm also if I see a car
• 1:05:18
  coming, I'm like please, please don't hit it.
• 1:05:21
  Please don't hit it like OK, one last story.
• 1:05:25
  Did I ever tell you about when we had shadow students and Casey
• 1:05:27
  was bringing his camera getting some footage of this?
• 1:05:30
  It must have been like a fall, like one of my last shadow
• 1:05:34
  students things before the winter.
• 1:05:37
  The caterpillars were out like crazy.
• 1:05:39
  We're out working on a walk and again, Casey's filming and he
• 1:05:42
  just, but he's like oh, this cute Caterpillar.
• 1:05:44
  He's like I'm going to get a little bit of footage of it.
• 1:05:46
  So he's like down getting footage of it. 2 seconds later a
• 1:05:49
  car comes and runs over it. No.
• 1:05:51
  Yes, we're all just like all of us are like, like what?
• 1:05:57
  So Casey literally captured this caterpillar's last couple
• 1:06:03
  seconds on earth. Oh my God, I know.
• 1:06:06
  Imagine. Yes, I can 'cause I was there.
• 1:06:10
  What happened? Oh, my God.
• 1:06:13
  Yeah. Well, like when I took the
• 1:06:14
  chickens to the exotic place, you know, and Bobby was like,
• 1:06:17
  what was it? Do they think you were weird?
• 1:06:19
  Hi Casey. Did they think it was weird that
• 1:06:23
  you brought a chicken in? And I was like, no, someone had
• 1:06:26
  a porcupine and like a little thing next to me.
• 1:06:28
  Another person had like what is it a weasel or something on a
• 1:06:32
  harness? A weasel.
• 1:06:33
  A ferret. A ferret on a harness.
• 1:06:35
  I'm like. Yeah, you're like, no, my
• 1:06:37
  chicken was nothing. No, the porcupine is what who's
• 1:06:42
  just finding like is this an their pet?
• 1:06:45
  Oh yeah, they had it very snug in like a little, I think there
• 1:06:48
  was a blanket, probably a pillow in there too.
• 1:06:50
  Whoa. OK.
• 1:06:52
  Yeah. See chickens.
• 1:06:54
  Nothing. Nothing.
• 1:06:55
  Yeah, it's just a Tuesday. OK.
• 1:07:00
  All right. Well, as always, I loved talking
• 1:07:02
  to you. I know same.
• 1:07:03
  I'll be thinking about y'all. Tomorrow, yes, we're going to
• 1:07:06
  have our lizard vision board, our pretty flowers mice.
• 1:07:12
  Stanley, this will be my emotional support water bottle.
• 1:07:16
  Do you like the lid? I do, the only thing is
• 1:07:20
  sometimes water seeps out when I take a sip but it's fine but.
• 1:07:23
  I was going to say the sucker, which I don't.
• 1:07:25
  I don't it's a little weird to get used to.
• 1:07:28
  I have to. Really cup it with my upper lip.
• 1:07:32
  But I do love it. I do love that because I don't
• 1:07:35
  like looking at like after you take a sip, doesn't matter how
• 1:07:38
  clean you are, there's going to be some spit on there.
• 1:07:40
  I don't like seeing that. For sure.
• 1:07:42
  Well, and also I like that. Like I can drop it and it's not
• 1:07:45
  water going everywhere. Yeah, same.
• 1:07:47
  Yeah, OK, cool. Well, thank you for it.
• 1:07:50
  I'm so thoughtful. You're the most thoughtful.
• 1:07:53
  Yes, that is true. OK, I will make sure to there's
• 1:07:57
  a red cardinal on. I can't turn because I have you
• 1:08:00
  on a stand, but I'll try to take a little video and.
• 1:08:03
  Then take a video. Yeah, I'm going to go.
• 1:08:06
  Hi, everybody. Up to date on my bird
• 1:08:08
  chronicles. Hold on, I'm going to show you.
• 1:08:11
  Let me see. I feel like red birds because
• 1:08:17
  they're so striking. They feel like such a special,
• 1:08:20
  yes, symbolic thing. Yeah, I know for some people
• 1:08:23
  like Cardinals, similar like what Hawks are for you like how
• 1:08:27
  people are showing up for. Them Oh, I had one.
• 1:08:30
  Can I say one more thing? Of course I don't know you.
• 1:08:34
  My Co hosts have more things than me.
• 1:08:35
  I have I'm gardening and making cards or vision boards.
• 1:08:40
  But so my friend Laura, she has this thing where cuz when after
• 1:08:45
  my dad passed away, I got really into signs and like there's a
• 1:08:48
  book on it and stuff. And I met up with her and she
• 1:08:52
  lost her mom like 10 years ago or something.
• 1:08:54
  And she came up with the idea that her mom's sign was a red
• 1:09:00
  bird. And then another thing she did
• 1:09:02
  cuz she's single and she said the thing she wants to look for
• 1:09:06
  as like a sign or whenever you think about these things, to me
• 1:09:10
  it like felt like, Oh my gosh, that's so cool.
• 1:09:12
  Where her sign for like the person that she's supposed to be
• 1:09:15
  with, it's going to be like a red balloon.
• 1:09:17
  Can you imagine if like the person she gets with actually
• 1:09:21
  there's something about a red balloon?
• 1:09:23
  Would that not be the coolest? That would be.
• 1:09:25
  I'm also thinking like how unique that could show up too,
• 1:09:29
  right? It's not going to be a person
• 1:09:32
  carrying a red balloon down the street.
• 1:09:33
  Maybe, yeah, but I bet you it'll be something like very little
• 1:09:38
  and like covert. Yes, something.
• 1:09:42
  Like that indiscreet. Oh my.
• 1:09:44
  Gosh, what could that be? A story he tells about a red
• 1:09:48
  balloon. Yes, OK, OK.
• 1:09:49
  Something like that. Well, I'm trying to think of
• 1:09:54
  like not that say he was like wrapped a present and he's like,
• 1:09:58
  this is all the wrapping paper I had.
• 1:10:00
  It's and it's just it has a red balloon on it.
• 1:10:04
  I just got chills. See, this is it hasn't even
• 1:10:06
  happened, but that storyline. I love it.
• 1:10:10
  I even when I see a red balloon, I look around if there's a male
• 1:10:13
  because what if it's like through you?
• 1:10:14
  Send her a picture and be like, I found him, yeah.
• 1:10:17
  There's a red balloon hanging from the tree.
• 1:10:19
  I think you should be here. That's what I'm going to say.
• 1:10:21
  OK, that also reminds me of Sarah.
• 1:10:25
  Yeah, he's pet nanny. When she came to the first
• 1:10:28
  trainer, her first trainer and you and we were like acting like
• 1:10:31
  we were going to hook her up with your mailman.
• 1:10:33
  And then this past one we're like, oh, let's see if she's has
• 1:10:35
  the same mailman. And then literally we're the
• 1:10:38
  trainer and you had ended and we saw on a like phone poll
• 1:10:43
  something about like grab this number.
• 1:10:45
  This person is looking for their partner.
• 1:10:48
  And I literally take a video and send it to all of the girls that
• 1:10:53
  came to the trainer. And you know, like Sarah call
• 1:10:55
  the number and she literally responds back, Kate, he's
• 1:11:01
  looking for a man. I'm like, oh, sorry, I didn't
• 1:11:04
  read that detail, but I just saw the sign and I'm like, Sarah,
• 1:11:07
  this this might be your person. Also, I don't think she's going
• 1:11:09
  to find her person on a grab this person's number.
• 1:11:12
  Yeah, that would. You'd have to have a drink
• 1:11:15
  before or something I would think.
• 1:11:16
  Major vetting happening with that, yeah.
• 1:11:18
  But it was thought that counted. I was thinking about you 'cause
• 1:11:22
  you notice a lot of things. I don't know if we already said
• 1:11:25
  this, but like when we were East End and like you looked up at
• 1:11:28
  this one fan, you were like, would you even notice this fan
• 1:11:31
  if I didn't mention it right now?
• 1:11:32
  It was disgusting next to like. Wish I didn't know something so
• 1:11:36
  much. It had so much dirt and dust on
• 1:11:40
  it that I'm like, I'm just fixating on it and I'm just
• 1:11:43
  thinking like that's just blowing down on us right now and
• 1:11:46
  like on to our food like that. I wish I didn't think like that
• 1:11:49
  so much because I think it like well.
• 1:11:51
  It also comes through in good experiences as well that I
• 1:11:54
  notice. Oh yeah, I wonder.
• 1:11:55
  Why? There's some like, negative
• 1:11:56
  things I noticed I'm like, oh, did that just like ruin an
• 1:11:58
  experience for me? Oh, yeah.
• 1:12:00
  But I can kind of be like, whatever.
• 1:12:02
  Like never stopped me from eating poke, but you know what I
• 1:12:05
  mean? Yes.
• 1:12:07
  Yeah, I think about that when I was there the other day because
• 1:12:09
  I think I noticed one thing and I'm like, Oh my God.
• 1:12:12
  To live in a brain where you notice these things all the
• 1:12:14
  time, it would make me feel like, Oh no, like I just
• 1:12:19
  especially when it comes to like bad things or negative things.
• 1:12:21
  My kind of brain and that's the things like I feel like if Casey
• 1:12:24
  noticed that stuff too because you, you and him have a very
• 1:12:26
  similar way of like thinking like the random stuff that comes
• 1:12:30
  to your guys brain does not come to mind.
• 1:12:31
  Yeah. And so I've like that would
• 1:12:33
  sometimes be exhausting of like how you and him have like these
• 1:12:36
  thoughts that I'm like what? Like I would never have that
• 1:12:39
  thought. But the stuff that I noticed, I
• 1:12:42
  could understand why someone that has such like thoughts
• 1:12:46
  coming in and out of their brain at all times like you and Casey,
• 1:12:49
  that would probably be like, oh, no, I don't need another thing
• 1:12:51
  coming into like whatever's already going on.
• 1:12:54
  But me, I can like visualize something, see it, take it in,
• 1:12:58
  move on. Wow.
• 1:13:00
  It's so it's, it's just like so cool how different people's
• 1:13:03
  brains take an information, see things like digest them.
• 1:13:09
  Yeah, it's like, that's the thing with his like original
• 1:13:11
  podcast cover. It's like that's how my brain
• 1:13:15
  feels sometimes where it's very chaotic.
• 1:13:17
  That's that's why it was so hilarious because it's like the
• 1:13:19
  most random things that he didn't even notice.
• 1:13:23
  And like I immediately noticed everything like and I was like
• 1:13:26
  why is there death card? Why is there why is your head on
• 1:13:29
  a crystal ball? Do we really need 2 open signs
• 1:13:32
  like? And then the part of it was so
• 1:13:35
  funny because from being around y'all for three weeks, I could
• 1:13:38
  envision you saying that to him and him being like, Oh my God, I
• 1:13:41
  didn't even notice that that's. Exactly how it went.
• 1:13:44
  That's exactly how it went. Oh my gosh.
• 1:13:49
  OK, so this is basically a dog training podcast.
• 1:13:52
  Today we talked a little bit about training.
• 1:13:54
  Yes, we are dog trainers and this is our dog training
• 1:13:56
  podcast. Did you see that?
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  Because you do you get alerts when you we get comments.
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  No, I don't get alerts. And once in a while, like when
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  you had told me there was a 'cause I went in and responded
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  to a couple of my birthday messages and then I went to go
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  back in a different time and, oh, there's a couple of new, one
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  new tagline, basically a dog training podcast.
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  OK, that's the first thing. I love that.
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  Yeah, OK, no, it doesn't Alert me.
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  And one other time I went into this app to go look at our
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  comments. It was like, you need a request
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  and I'm like, you already gave me permission, but then I went
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  back in like the next day and it let me in.
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  So. Oh, yeah, OK.
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  Thanks for basically keeping up on all of the comments for us.
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  But I do love going in and reading them.
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  I don't get alerts on anything because Instagram keeps asking
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  me if I want to turn on alerts. I'm like no, no, no, thank you.
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  And do you get that thing? Like do you want to turn on
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  alerts? I say no to pretty much all of
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  those all. I don't get alerted when I get
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  an e-mail. No same.
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  I'm trying to think if there's anything that alerts me.
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  It's just if like the cameras, but that's like it's so minimal,
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  like the front door alerted me. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, but I gotta
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  learn it with the comments, so I'll have to tell you when
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  there's one. Yeah, yeah, so nice.
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  We so appreciate y'all listening and we.
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  Love it. Commenting so nice.
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  And we have also appreciate the feedback because one of our
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  trainer friends posted that she was listening to it in the car
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  and I'm like, we're basically not talking dog training at all.
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  And she's like, please keep it that way.
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  So. I'm like, such a compliment.
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  Yes, I love it. It's been so fun.
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  Yeah, 'cause I keep thinking, and you said it the other day
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  too. You were like, I can't wait to
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  tell everyone on the podcast or something.
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  Yeah, just updating on the bench.
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  I just wanted people to know I couldn't wait.
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  OK. All right.
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  OK, I will talk. To you soon.
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  I'll let you know how birdie surgery goes tomorrow, OK?
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  And thank you for being the best.
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  You too. Hey, I'll talk to you soon.
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  Bye bye.