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JFK Book Reviews - No More Silence By Larry Sneed · The Lone Gunman Podcast : JFK Assassination

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everybody, And welcome to JFK Book Reviews, a
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  Speaker 1: division of the Lone Gum and Podcast. But you already
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  Speaker 1: know that because you're members of our channel now and
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  Speaker 1: these are exclusively just for you for now. Today we're
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  Speaker 1: going to be reviewing the book No More Silence by
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  Speaker 1: Larry Snead Joe, and she is a thick one, she is.
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  Speaker 1: I happen to have the paperback copy here, sir, and
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  Speaker 1: it's actually from the Fairport Public Library in Fairport, New York. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's funny.
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  Speaker 2: That's funny.
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  Speaker 1: It said, it's stamped on the inside discard this piece
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  Speaker 1: of shit.
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  Speaker 2: Thankfully they didn't sell.
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  Speaker 1: This mother effort. But yeah, it's a it's a former
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  Speaker 1: library book that I picked up at the used bookstore
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  Speaker 1: for like four ninety nine, many moons ago. But Joe,
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  Speaker 1: tell us a little bit more about this book, and
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  Speaker 1: then we'll get into the meat and taters of this thing.
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  Speaker 2: Sure so. Larry A. Snead was born and raised in Indiana.
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  Speaker 2: He holds a bachelors and science degree from Indiana State
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  Speaker 2: University and two graduate degrees from the University of Georgia.
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  Speaker 2: He has been a high school history teacher in the
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  Speaker 2: Newton and Gwynette Public School System in Georgia for thirty years.
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  Speaker 2: No more silenced. This is first and only published work,
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  Speaker 2: and he and his wife Barbara have been together for
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  Speaker 2: a long time. So the first version came out in
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  Speaker 2: October of nineteen ninety eight rob By three Forks Press,
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  Speaker 2: and it was rep printed by the University of North
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  Speaker 2: Texas Press in March of twenty seventeen. Both books range
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  Speaker 2: from six hundred and one to six hundred and forty
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  Speaker 2: eight pages one point ninety five pounds, which is pretty thick.
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  Speaker 2: You can get the kindle edition for eleven ninety nine,
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  Speaker 2: which is like thirty percent off right now, the paperback
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  Speaker 2: for thirty bucks, and used copies starting on Amazon are
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  Speaker 2: about nine dollars, probably the lowest quality. But in the
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  Speaker 2: Abe and thrift books world secondary it's about twenty dollars.
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  Speaker 2: So I feel like we create more categories every week.
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  Speaker 2: But I'd say this book has well, it has an
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  Speaker 2: index of glossary and I'd say it has a compilation
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  Speaker 2: of eyewitness testimony. Lean to it, Rob.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Joe always likes to put this in it either
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  Speaker 1: loan not a conspiracy, loan not a conspiracy. But sometimes
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  Speaker 1: things don'tn't just that easy, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, Yeah, that's true.
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  Speaker 1: They don't fit on the same hole, and this book,
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  Speaker 1: it's one of those things that doesn't fit in the
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  Speaker 1: round hole. And it was the first of its kind.
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  Speaker 1: There have been others since, like The Lone Star Speaks,
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  Speaker 1: but this book basically gives a voice to the voiceless.
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  Speaker 1: And I say that somewhat loosely because some of the
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  Speaker 1: people that were interviewed for this book, their stories are
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  Speaker 1: out there. They've been in the war and report they
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  Speaker 1: may have an affid David on November twenty second, sixty three
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  Speaker 1: to what they saw. But in his own words, you know,
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  Speaker 1: larryus the Neeid first got interested in the case after
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  Speaker 1: reading David Lifton's best evidence in the eighties, and he
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  Speaker 1: wasn't really sure whether there was a conspiracy or Oswald
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  Speaker 1: acting alone. You know, there's evidence on both sides of
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  Speaker 1: the fence, of course, and he wasn't convinced either way.
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  Speaker 1: So what he did, starting in the late eighties was
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  Speaker 1: making several trips to Dallas over the course of ten
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  Speaker 1: years or so and managed to track down a lot
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  Speaker 1: of former police, former Dallas sheriff, even Harry Holmes, the
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  Speaker 1: postal inspector, people in the school bok depository, people that
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  Speaker 1: work there, people the new Lee, Harvey Oswald, witnesses from
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  Speaker 1: Daly Plaza.
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  Speaker 2: Forty nine combined Sir.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, forty nine combined witnesses into a written It says
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  Speaker 1: it's an oral history, but oral is talking, much like
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  Speaker 1: the sixth Floor has oral histories from the people. These
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  Speaker 1: are written oral histories, you know, straight from the horse's mouth,
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  Speaker 1: where they're not led somewhere down a path by an interviewer.
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  Speaker 1: He basically asked these people for their personal experiences and
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  Speaker 1: recollections concerning November twenty second, sixty three and the assassination
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  Speaker 1: of JFK. And like I just said, a lot of
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  Speaker 1: these guys are former law enforcement Dallas police officers, share
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  Speaker 1: of deputies and people like that. And there are some witnesses,
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  Speaker 1: if you will, from Dally Plaza, like Bill Newman, Ike
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  Speaker 1: Autionins people like that. There's an account and hear from
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  Speaker 1: Jim Yule, who we talked about on the show when
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  Speaker 1: he rode to the school book Depository in Captain Westbrook's
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  Speaker 1: car and then the scene of the tip and murder,
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  Speaker 1: and of course the Texas Theater, and you know he
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  Speaker 1: tells about what he did that day, you know, and writing,
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  Speaker 1: catching a ride with the cops, and being involved in
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  Speaker 1: all of this stuff, and to me, it's very interesting. Now,
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  Speaker 1: of course, these are all recollections from twenty to thirty
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  Speaker 1: years ago at the point that these are taken from people,
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  Speaker 1: and he even acknowledges in the introduction, you know that
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  Speaker 1: there are there appear to be some fact wears, some
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  Speaker 1: maybe faulty memories, if you will. I mean, because eye
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  Speaker 1: witnesses is a funny thing, Joe. You know, they're one
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  Speaker 1: of the least reliable, especially thirty years after the fact,
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  Speaker 1: twenty years after the fact, that there's some of the
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  Speaker 1: least reliable witnesses because things get convoluted over time and
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  Speaker 1: memories get polluted with all the shit that comes out,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and you might think you saw something or
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  Speaker 1: you know, you hear whatever. Shit. I heard four shots,
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  Speaker 1: but everybody else they say they heard three, So I
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  Speaker 1: got to be wrong, you know, instead of standing by, well,
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  Speaker 1: look I thought I heard four, right, you know. For sure,
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  Speaker 1: to me, it was cool to see this kind of
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  Speaker 1: book because it doesn't really take a stance one way
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  Speaker 1: or the other. It lets these people, these witnesses speak
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  Speaker 1: their own story in their own words, and you can
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  Speaker 1: choose to believe them or not, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, yeah, he lets he lets kind of the reader
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  Speaker 2: decide in a.
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  Speaker 1: Sense, right, Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, I think
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  Speaker 1: you know, looking back, we always could try to attribute
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  Speaker 1: Oh but the Dallas police they're all liars, they're evil,
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  Speaker 1: Sheriff's office, you know, they're all liars and evil. And
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  Speaker 1: you know, you have your preconceived notions about what eyewitness
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  Speaker 1: has said, because sometimes their stories do change over time
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  Speaker 1: and you don't know what to believe. He even acknowledges
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  Speaker 1: that there are certain people that he did not put
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  Speaker 1: in the book because he felt that they were just lying.
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  Speaker 1: At this point, he calls him out by name. He says,
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  Speaker 1: Beverly Oliver Whisky, Lady ed Hoffman, Gordon, or people like
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  Speaker 1: that that he could have put in the book. He
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  Speaker 1: chose not to because he wasn't convinced of their stories
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  Speaker 1: because there's no actual evidence backing the fact up that
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  Speaker 1: they were there. He even excluded gene Hill from this book,
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  Speaker 1: right because their story has changed so much over time.
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  Speaker 2: Right, So.
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  Speaker 1: He was judicial in who he put in this book.
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  Speaker 1: And if you want to be hyper critical of this book.
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  Speaker 1: You could say, well, you know, he didn't put this
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  Speaker 1: person in. He didn't put that person in. Or maybe
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  Speaker 1: but maybe they had passed by then maybe he couldn't
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  Speaker 1: find them. You know, maybe maybe this maybe that because
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  Speaker 1: a lot of it was networking between the Dallas Police
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  Speaker 1: and the Sheriff's office. Because these guys keep in touch.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they pretty much all knew each other or
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  Speaker 1: know each other, stayed friends. That's why there's so many
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  Speaker 1: of them in here. You know, when you have people
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  Speaker 1: that aren't connected in real life, like with Jesus Aza,
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  Speaker 1: or people that happened to work at the school depository
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  Speaker 1: for a year or on different floors that didn't really
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  Speaker 1: know each other and didn't really stay in touch. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, you have a lot of people from the
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  Speaker 1: DPD and the Dallas Sheriff's Office in here because he
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  Speaker 1: was able to use them to network, to track people
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  Speaker 1: down that you know, hadn't really spoke too much or
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  Speaker 1: at this point, you know, it was probably really hard
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  Speaker 1: to find, like Gus Rose's HSCA testimony, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean. I mean we're talking about late eighties, early nineties.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you had to you know, live at the
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  Speaker 1: archives or you know, like go through the Dallas Police
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  Speaker 1: archives when they opened, and you know, trying to track
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  Speaker 1: this stuff down, and that's a lot of work. And
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  Speaker 1: that's not what he was trying to do here. You know,
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  Speaker 1: he didn't really write this book. You know, he let
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  Speaker 1: it write itself through the words of the people that
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  Speaker 1: he chose to put in the book, you know. And
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  Speaker 1: I think it's very good that he put a glossary
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  Speaker 1: in the back. So if there's a name of somebody
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  Speaker 1: you come across and you don't know who it is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you can look them up and see who
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  Speaker 1: see who they are. Like I'll give an example. I'll
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  Speaker 1: just open the book. Richard Dodd. Do you know who
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  Speaker 1: Richard Dodd is? Joe?
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  Speaker 2: The name sounds really familiar. I believe he was. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. Tell me, sir, I don't want it to
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  Speaker 2: guess wrong.
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  Speaker 1: Well, apparently Richard Dodd was standing at the Triple Underpass.
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  Speaker 1: Dodd stated that there was smoke coming from behind the
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  Speaker 1: grassy and old fence immediately after the assassination.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, he was a rail road worker, I believe.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe not, you know, so it's you know, things
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  Speaker 1: like that, if you come across a name you don't
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  Speaker 1: really know. It makes it easy to look up. Or
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  Speaker 1: even places like the Criminal Courts Building. A lot of
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  Speaker 1: people have heard of it, but they don't really know
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  Speaker 1: what it is or where it was. You know what
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  Speaker 1: he tells you. It's located into the corner of Maine
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  Speaker 1: in Houston. The Criminal Courts Building was the headquarters of
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  Speaker 1: the Dallas County Sheriff's Office and the site of the
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  Speaker 1: Jack Ruby trial. The jail upstairs was where Ruby was
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  Speaker 1: in carus already from November twenty fourth until December sixty sixth,
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  Speaker 1: when it was discovered that he was suffering from terminal cancer.
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  Speaker 2: He was a railroad track supervisor for the Union Terminal Company.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you know who Elgin Krawl was?
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  Speaker 2: I have no idea what that is.
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  Speaker 1: He was a city manager of Dallas. Dallas police officers
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  Speaker 1: blamed Krawl for acquiring Chief Curry to permit the news
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  Speaker 1: media into the basement to witness the transfer. Napoleon Daniels no,
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  Speaker 1: a former Dallas police officer who claimed to have seen
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  Speaker 1: Roy Vaughan let Ruby enter the main street ramp leading
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  Speaker 1: into the basement of City Hall. Yes. Yet, Napoleon Daniels
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  Speaker 1: later failed a DPD polygraph exam.
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  Speaker 2: So there are a lot of good tidbits in here
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  Speaker 2: from not well known witnesses.
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  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, there's there's all kinds of names in here,
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  Speaker 1: and it's it's very interesting to hear like Harry Holmes
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  Speaker 1: in his own words, uh, you know, describe everything. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna give you a little tidbit from the
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  Speaker 1: Harry Holmes thing.
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  Speaker 2: Please do.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see, he's got quite a lengthy oral history. I'll
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  Speaker 1: tell you that he says no agency or individual ever
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  Speaker 1: thought that anybody was trying to get in touch with him,
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  Speaker 1: which would consummate a conspiracy. And what he's talking about
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  Speaker 1: there is through the mail with Oswald, so based on
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  Speaker 1: his mail, and of course he's opening it and reading it,
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  Speaker 1: but he doesn't think that there was a conspiracy because
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  Speaker 1: at least through the mail, nobody was ever you know,
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  Speaker 1: trying to talk about a conspiracy. But he even says,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and here when you're talking about the interrogation
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  Speaker 1: of Oswald, that somebody was banging on the goddamn door
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  Speaker 1: every five minutes asking to talk to Fritz, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and then Chief Curry comes banging on the door. We
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  Speaker 1: need to move him now, so they had to wrap
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  Speaker 1: it up and it Originally the interrogation of Oswald started
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  Speaker 1: about nine o'clock and it was only supposed to last
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  Speaker 1: for an hour. It ended up lasting almost two hours,
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  Speaker 1: and then Curry's banging on the door, it's time to
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  Speaker 1: move him, let's go, And then of course the rest
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  Speaker 1: is history. So he even speculates that had they not
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  Speaker 1: called him in to interrogate Oswald, that that interrogation wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: have lasted two hours, and that Oswald may have lived
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  Speaker 1: because Ribby would have missed his window of opportunity right allegedly.
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  Speaker 1: So it's very interesting some of the perspectives that these people,
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  Speaker 1: you know, who just happened to be having their brush
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  Speaker 1: with history experienced, and not everything is a conspiracy. Not
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  Speaker 1: everybody's lying. And I don't know. I enjoyed the book
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  Speaker 1: when it first came out because it was different, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and it's in the same vein of like I said,
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  Speaker 1: the lone Stars Speak, someone would have talked the six
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  Speaker 1: floor museums, oral histories, things like that. So I don't know, Joe,
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  Speaker 1: tell us what you thought about it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I read this book a long time ago,
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  Speaker 2: and I bought up on Kindle recently, I could have
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  Speaker 2: found my copy. But you know, a lot of names,
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  Speaker 2: the forty nine of them. You know, if you know
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  Speaker 2: who all forty nine are, you're a better man than
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  Speaker 2: I am. But like you mentioned earlier, some of the critiques,
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  Speaker 2: critics of this book say that maybe he should have
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  Speaker 2: gotten more people from hospital or Parkland Hospital, and he
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  Speaker 2: might have just focused on the law enforcement aspect a
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  Speaker 2: little too much. But I do respect the attempt, and
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  Speaker 2: you know, like you mentioned one of the earlier attempts
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  Speaker 2: to get some of their stories on paper, because let's
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  Speaker 2: face it, a lot of these people are falling off
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  Speaker 2: at this point in nineteen ninety eight, right So, And
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  Speaker 2: I really respect the fact that he really didn't give
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  Speaker 2: his opinion. He's kind of letting the reader decide and
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  Speaker 2: my writing. I really respect the effort. I respect the
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  Speaker 2: effort he put into this book, the author, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to give it a very or little above middle
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  Speaker 2: of the road six guns up, just for the fact
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  Speaker 2: that he doesn't try to let the reader or lead
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  Speaker 2: the reader, like all the investigators and the warrant Commission
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  Speaker 2: and the lawyers and a lot of people that talk
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  Speaker 2: to some of these people after the fact dead and yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I am going to go to a very solid six
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  Speaker 2: guns up.
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  Speaker 1: Alrighty. Just to counter that little point from about the
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  Speaker 1: critics like not having the Parkland doctors in here, what
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  Speaker 1: you got to remember, this book is designed to hear
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  Speaker 1: from people that we don't hear from much. And the
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  Speaker 1: Parkland doctors I have heard from a lot, have been
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  Speaker 1: heard from a lot, especially in the eighties with Best
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  Speaker 1: Evidence and a lot of these other eighties conspiracy books
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  Speaker 1: that wrote a lot about the Parkland doctors, and hell,
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  Speaker 1: even the Parkland doctors themselves, like Crenshaw. You know, we're
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  Speaker 1: putting books out in the early nineties, so they had
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  Speaker 1: their voice, they've said, they said their stories. You know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe they didn't get enough play in the in the
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  Speaker 1: Warren Report, but that's something totally different. Yes, So I
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  Speaker 1: don't I don't begrudge him for not including Parkland doctors
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  Speaker 1: in this book because they said, this is not what that.
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  Speaker 1: This is not that type of book where you just
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  Speaker 1: put every every conspiracy person in the book. You know,
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  Speaker 1: there's there's plenty of people who uh claimed that there
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  Speaker 1: was a conspiracy and they saw shots or heard shots
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  Speaker 1: from the know or saw smoke from the knowl or
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  Speaker 1: you know, things like that. So I'm gonna have to
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  Speaker 1: go for what this book was and for the easy
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  Speaker 1: readability of the book. I mean, it's a very it's
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  Speaker 1: a very well written book. And of course the dude's
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  Speaker 1: a college professor, so it's going to be and with
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  Speaker 1: his ability to extract himself from the equation and lead
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  Speaker 1: his speculation into the book and just let the eyewitnesses
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  Speaker 1: the history talk and give their story. Just boom here
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  Speaker 1: it is nuts, fruit bolts and all.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, let the reader decide.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it a solid eight guns up Joe
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  Speaker 1: Flair and a volley.
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  Speaker 2: I always have trouble counting my shots, That's.
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  Speaker 1: What she said. So yeah, that's no more silence. An
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  Speaker 1: oral history, not an anal history, An oral history of
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  Speaker 1: the assassination of President Kennedy by Larry A. Snead. And
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  Speaker 1: I said, this is a good book, you know, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I know it's stick. I know it's but you can
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  Speaker 1: read it in bite sized chunks. It's you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: broken up into six parts, and each part has its
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  Speaker 1: own sub chapters of individual oral histories that are maybe
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  Speaker 1: anywhere from three pages to ten pages long, and you
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  Speaker 1: can really read it at your own pace and not
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  Speaker 1: not miss anything, you know. Yeah, yeah, So for that
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  Speaker 1: reason it gets an eight from your boy.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I respect that, and yeah, I mean it's it's
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  Speaker 2: definitely one of those books that I think is good
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  Speaker 2: to have around, especially like you said, like to refer
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  Speaker 2: back to it. You don't have to read it in
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  Speaker 2: one fellow swoop type of thing, or if.
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  Speaker 1: You come across somebody that's you know, there's not much
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  Speaker 1: out there on and you you know, you want to
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  Speaker 1: hear what they had to say in their own words
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  Speaker 1: without somebody putting words on their mouth on paper. It's
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  Speaker 1: a good resource to have, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Definitely, definitely, definitely.
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  Speaker 1: Well that's it for this book review. And I can't
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  Speaker 1: really say what I used to say because you're already here,
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  Speaker 1: you're already members, you already love the show. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: what can we say.
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  Speaker 2: Joe, Yeah, stay subbed.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, give this shit a thumbs up. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: it's not monetized anymore. It is what it is. And yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we hope you enjoyed it, and we'll see you on
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  Speaker 1: the next installment of JFK Book Reviews. And we do
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  Speaker 1: here just for you lovely members, So for Joseph Barelli
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  Speaker 1: and Big Bad Bob we bid you hm, I do.
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  Speaker 1: Until next time, folks, peace, see you later and