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Chuck & Buck 12-10 Hour 3: ICYMI Rick Neuheisel, Seahawks backup QB fortune and Aikman is done! · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, run a little bit late here going into
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Speaker 1: the eight o'clock hour. But look, solving college football takes time, right,
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Speaker 1: the people overnight. Obviously, it's taking the people in charge
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Speaker 1: one hundred years and they're still not there.
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Speaker 2: Right. We just didn't in like six minutes.
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Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, maybe we went eight sorry Rich Moore sorry, ps, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: but we did solve it at least.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna get good ratings for that. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 2: I mean we could just take some of the commercials out.
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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, anyway, we solved college football. Chris Peterson
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Speaker 1: challenged me to do it earlier this week when we
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Speaker 1: had him on. Remember that when he said he signing off,
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Speaker 1: he goes, good luck solving college football.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 1: I took it as a challenge and I succeeded, coach,
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Speaker 1: So go ahead, take a listen.
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Speaker 2: What have you done?
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Speaker 1: Try to poke holes in that? Yeah, buddy, buddy boy.
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Speaker 3: He'll be like, oh, actually, you know what, Now he's
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Speaker 3: gonna go ticket. I've got to plan guys to sell
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Speaker 3: college football.
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Speaker 1: I would love that. I actually would love that. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: So give that a go, fancy pants. I hope he does.
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Speaker 1: Rick new Isil is our normal college football insider we
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Speaker 1: have him on every Tuesday at nine o'clock, and of
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Speaker 1: course we had him on yesterday, and it was I
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Speaker 1: always look forward to Coach. I know you talking to Coach.
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Speaker 1: I know you both do as well. But yesterday was
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Speaker 1: particularly interesting because of all the Washington State Cougar rumors
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Speaker 1: that are going on out there. And I didn't know,
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Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't even know if he would answer
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Speaker 1: the call. Frankly, I mean, when you got something going
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Speaker 1: like that, I mean, I think he would have told us, hey, guys,
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Speaker 1: I can't talk. And had he skipped yesterday, I think
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Speaker 1: we would have known something was going on and he
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Speaker 1: just couldn't talk about it. But he did answer the call.
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Speaker 1: He did come on with us, and he didn't back
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Speaker 1: away from any of the questions that Bucky and I
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Speaker 1: asked him yesterday. In case you missed it, and in
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Speaker 1: case you are quite interested in this story, we're going
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Speaker 1: to replace some of it for you now, just the
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Speaker 1: Koug part of our conversation with Coach yesterday here on
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Speaker 1: Chuck and Buck.
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Speaker 4: I have no idea. I have not spoken to anybody
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Speaker 4: from Washington State. There have been a number of alums
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Speaker 4: that I've talked to I've made a lot of friends
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Speaker 4: over my lifetime to Jack Thompson's of the world, the
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Speaker 4: Mark Rippins of the world, the Drew Bledsoe's of the world,
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Speaker 4: and I've always admired greatly how much they loved their school.
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Speaker 4: I mean, it is a it's a badge of honor
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Speaker 4: to be a kug and so there's no question that
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Speaker 4: there's great passion there. And I've made it clear that
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Speaker 4: I missed coach, There's no question about that. So if
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Speaker 4: an opportunity were present us up, I would certainly entertain it.
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Speaker 4: Have not talked to anybody at the school. These things
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Speaker 4: go by way of search, firms and touch, so I'll
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Speaker 4: check in with you later if I got any news,
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Speaker 4: but I don't have any today.
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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, then it sounds I mean that you kind
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Speaker 2: of pretty much answered it. I mean you you miss coaching,
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Speaker 2: so if the opportunity present itself, you would gladly take it.
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Speaker 2: Have If somebody here is hearing this from Wazoo right
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Speaker 2: now and says, well, we've heard about that, but we
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Speaker 2: didn't know for sure. If he's interested that you're interested
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Speaker 2: in going to Pullman.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd be interested. And the other thing that's kind
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Speaker 4: of attracted for me. And again, this would all have
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Speaker 4: to be you know, talked over, and I haven't had
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Speaker 4: that opportunity to talk to anybody. I'd love to coach
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Speaker 4: with my son and to have an opportunity for the
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Speaker 4: two of us to collaborate in this kind of environment
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Speaker 4: and put together approach. I've said this new pac twelve
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Speaker 4: that is going to begin next year with eight schools
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Speaker 4: that all have state named after him. I can't believe
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Speaker 4: All State Insurance hasn't decided how to sponsor this thing
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Speaker 4: because it is all states. That new conference is really
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Speaker 4: exciting from a standpoint that you've got eight similarly resourced programs.
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Speaker 4: It isn't like there's just the elephants in this room
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Speaker 4: that are going to run the table, kind of like
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Speaker 4: James Madison is in the Sun Belt where they got
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Speaker 4: more money than everybody else. It sounds to me like
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Speaker 4: you've got eight schools at all have a chance to
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Speaker 4: coach hard and recruit hard and a chance to win,
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Speaker 4: and that to me is appealing.
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Speaker 1: I'd love it for you. Of course, you still have
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Speaker 1: to come on with us every Tuesday at nine o'clock Tuesday. Yes, yes,
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Speaker 1: but I mean I envisioned a scenario, and I don't
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Speaker 1: want to make you uncomfortable. I envisioned a scenario where
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Speaker 1: you coach the Koogs for a few years and the
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Speaker 1: and eventually it's handed off to your son and he
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Speaker 1: becomes a staple there. I don't know's that's what as
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Speaker 1: in my mind is is that anything that you I mean,
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Speaker 1: are you entertaining that as well? I mean not just
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Speaker 1: working with your son, but maybe the new Heisel stamp
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Speaker 1: gets put on that program for years to come.
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Speaker 4: So the old saying in the country song you want
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Speaker 4: to hear God laugh, tell them your plans, right? So yeah,
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Speaker 4: I don't. I don't think we can put the cart
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Speaker 4: too far before the horse.
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Speaker 5: I know this.
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Speaker 4: I've loved college football and I miss it and the
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Speaker 4: relationships daily. I get a heaping hunk of it doing
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Speaker 4: what I do, and I love coming on with you guys.
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Speaker 4: I love the CBS gig that I've enjoyed. Now this
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Speaker 4: is my eleventh year. But if I'm going to make
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Speaker 4: a run to coach one more time, the clock is ticking.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 4: You can all see Marissa Tomay banging her foot on
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Speaker 4: the my cousin Benny porch There So if it were
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Speaker 4: to be, I think I'd be really excited about it.
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Speaker 4: If not, I certainly understand.
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Speaker 1: Rick new Isel with us yesterday. If you want to
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Speaker 1: hear the entire conversation, and we do get into the
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Speaker 1: college football playoff picture and many other topics. It's good
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Speaker 1: twenty minutes with Coach new Isel yesterday. Check that out
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Speaker 1: at ninety three three kjar dot com. But certainly that
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Speaker 1: was a Newsworthy noteworthy yesterday Coach new Isel and I
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Speaker 1: asked him point blank, are you going to be the
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Speaker 1: next head coach of the Washington State Cougar. So we
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Speaker 1: got it out there yesterday. Look, I realized there's a
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Speaker 1: little bit of hesitation from koog fans. I mean, you
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Speaker 1: know that guy's bled Washington Purple in the past. Even
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Speaker 1: if it's not Coach new Heiseel, it does make sense
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Speaker 1: to get to me, to get somebody like coach new Heisl.
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Speaker 1: I mean this idea of finding some young guy that
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Speaker 1: will be the program forever. You know what young guys
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Speaker 1: want to do, keep climbing the corporate ladder, and even
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Speaker 1: though they say all the right things, when they take
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Speaker 1: over the program, this is where I want to be.
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Speaker 1: If they're great. There's a place that they want to
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Speaker 1: be more, especially now, more now than ever. You're in
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Speaker 1: a group of five program right now. I mean you're
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Speaker 1: not even you're Jimmy Rogers. Yeah you're not. Yeah, exactly,
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Speaker 1: that's what I'm referencing. I mean, that's the program that
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Speaker 1: you are. You're yes, you're still in the PAC twelve,
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Speaker 1: but you're not a big program anymore. And so you
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Speaker 1: can keep trying to find that guy that you can
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Speaker 1: grow old with and think that it's possible. And I'm
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Speaker 1: not saying it's impossible, but isn't it far more realistic
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Speaker 1: to take somebody that has gone through the paces, that
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Speaker 1: has been around the program. Is dedicated in his love
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Speaker 1: to college football, to college athletics, to West Coast football,
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Speaker 1: and even though he wore the Washington Husky colors at
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Speaker 1: one point, he's coming in here not looking to climb
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Speaker 1: the corporate ladder. He thinks he's got more coaching, he
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Speaker 1: thinks he's got more impact. He misses that loves the
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Speaker 1: state of Washington, loves West Coast football, wants to get
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Speaker 1: back into the mix before he is too old. And oh,
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Speaker 1: by the way, just happens to have a doppel ganger
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Speaker 1: son who's just getting started, is a hot name in
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Speaker 1: the business right now, and might hand the program off
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Speaker 1: to him when he's done. If Jerry falls in love
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Speaker 1: with Pullman, maybe that's your young coach of the future.
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Speaker 1: But to me, it just makes more sense right now
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Speaker 1: to find the guy that wants to give his last
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Speaker 1: last talents and coaching to one more project more than
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Speaker 1: it does to find the next hot offensive coordinator that,
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Speaker 1: as soon as he has a great year, is taking
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Speaker 1: a better job the following season.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great point to bring up, Chuck. I
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Speaker 2: think the idea because Wazu, I mean, we were talking
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Speaker 2: this season about Jed Fish and whether or not he
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Speaker 2: was essentially going to be using you dub as a
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Speaker 2: jump off point to something that was better. So and
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Speaker 2: you Dub is a legitimate program in the Big ten,
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Speaker 2: right and yet Wazoo unfortunately has found themselves in a
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Speaker 2: collapsed conference at this point, waiting to figure out what
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Speaker 2: is going to happen with all the realignment. So yeah,
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Speaker 2: in a Power five situation where it doesn't matter who
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Speaker 2: you get, Wazoo job is big enough. The program itself
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Speaker 2: is big enough that if you can run it and
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Speaker 2: then you show signs that you can do pretty good
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Speaker 2: stuff with less than talent because you aren't going to
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Speaker 2: get the best talent because of where you're playing in
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Speaker 2: the amount of exposure they're gonna get. So if you
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Speaker 2: can show that you can do well with what you got,
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Speaker 2: then another big team when they have to move on
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Speaker 2: from their coach for whatever reason, is gonna come you.
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Speaker 2: They're gonna come take you away. So the idea of
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Speaker 2: going with Rick new Heiseel, to me, almost lends you
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Speaker 2: a twofold aspect because he's going to bring his son.
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Speaker 2: He would love to bring his son. His son would
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Speaker 2: coach with him underneath, and now all of a sudden
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Speaker 2: it's like, hey, when I'm gone, that's who gets it.
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Speaker 2: And now he gets to kind of learn under his
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Speaker 2: dad like he's and then kind of take that chair
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Speaker 2: when his dad steps aside. That would be your best
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Speaker 2: opportunity to possibly get somebody that falls in love with
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Speaker 2: it over the course of be in the OC, and
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Speaker 2: then the head coach and then falls in love with
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Speaker 2: the polouse enough that he's like, I'm cool with being
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Speaker 2: this dude here forever. And yet even that's far fetched.
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Speaker 2: But I think it's your best chance at it, your
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Speaker 2: best chance at long term a longevity thing, and not
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Speaker 2: just having somebody use you as a stepping stone. The
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Speaker 2: Rick new Heisel, the new Heiseel plan is a pretty
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Speaker 2: good one in my opinion.
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Speaker 1: And who knows, maybe he's got ten years left in him. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you know, I don't think though, that he would be
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Speaker 1: coming in there. I don't think Rick new ISIL's even entertaining.
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Speaker 1: He referenced Marissa Tome, you know, you know, sitting there
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Speaker 1: tapping his foot, waiting for his opportunity. That character, that
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Speaker 1: Marissa Tome character didn't think she was going to be
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Speaker 1: the next head coach at Alabama if she has a
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Speaker 1: ten and two season at Washington State. I don't think
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Speaker 1: that Rick new ISELI even entertains that he would love
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Speaker 1: to jump in to this size of a program, this
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Speaker 1: type of a project. He knows Pullman wants to live there.
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Speaker 1: I mean, those are the criteria I would be looking
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Speaker 1: for if I were Washington.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I think it would be a great fit.
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Speaker 3: And I think the idea that yeah, you get Jerry
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Speaker 3: to grow up and you know, hone his coaching chops
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Speaker 3: on the police just makes him love it. More. And
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Speaker 3: I don't think we're in this era of college football
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Speaker 3: where anything is permanent anymore. Yeah, but I think this
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Speaker 3: is about as sure thing of a long run that
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Speaker 3: you could have if you went with these two.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. And then it doesn't mean that if Jerry took
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Speaker 1: over and he's he's a very young man. Yeah, Like
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Speaker 1: if he took over and he had a great year
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Speaker 1: the very first year or the first couple of years,
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Speaker 1: he's probably leaving two.
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Speaker 3: But you've still got what eight six years that you
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Speaker 3: could get out of the two of them.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, even if he leaves after year number two
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Speaker 1: and you give Rick five, that's seven years. That's a
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Speaker 1: longer run.
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Speaker 2: Then it's better than the one or two year runs
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Speaker 2: that they're on right now.
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Speaker 3: That's right, and you get Yeah, you build that consistency,
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Speaker 3: which especially with the smaller programs, that consistency is what's
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Speaker 3: going to help you and in the recruiting and in
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Speaker 3: you know, just in terms of having your program become
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Speaker 3: more successful. That's part of their problems. They can't keep
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Speaker 3: a coach right now, and it's everyone thinks it's a
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Speaker 3: stepping stone. So if you get those coaches who want
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Speaker 3: to be there, then they're going to sell that to
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Speaker 3: the kids.
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Speaker 1: And I don't think you should even be all that upset.
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Speaker 1: I mean, be upset that you're not one of the
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Speaker 1: Power five anymore or Power four anymore. But I mean
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Speaker 1: you can be upset for that as a Koog fan
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Speaker 1: for the rest of your life. But it's almost like
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Speaker 1: everybody gets used as a stepping stone. But Ole miss
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Speaker 1: got used as a stepping stone for goodness sake. You know,
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Speaker 1: Washington got used as a stepping stone. Yeah. Yeah, So
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Speaker 1: it's it's until somebody reaches the highest rung in their minds.
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Speaker 1: I mean, everybody's getting used right now. In college athletics,
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Speaker 1: everybody's out for themselves. I mean there's no sure thing,
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Speaker 1: but a short erer thing is probably getting that coach
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Speaker 1: who's got a good five years left in him that's
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Speaker 1: been around the block of time or two and is
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Speaker 1: no longer fantasizing that he's going to be the next
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Speaker 1: head coach of the New York Giants, right, And that's
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Speaker 1: Rick new Isiel. So I mean, there are other guys
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Speaker 1: that we could discuss, but he wants the job, and
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Speaker 1: we like coach, and even if it costs us a
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Speaker 1: nine o'clock excellent segment every Tuesday. I'd be really happy
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Speaker 1: for him, and I'd be happy for Kug fans. I
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Speaker 1: think it makes a lot of sense, even though I
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Speaker 1: know a lot of koog fans bristle at the thought
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Speaker 1: of hiring a former udub ed coach.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it, But at the same time, I
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Speaker 2: think you probably shouldn't necessarily let that get in the way.
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Speaker 2: To me, it boils down to, yes, you have a
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Speaker 2: guy that's been around the block, that knows this stuff,
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Speaker 2: who's chomping at the bit to get back into the
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Speaker 2: coaching ranks. If you give him the opportunity. It's not
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Speaker 2: just that you're getting somebody that knows what he's doing. Uh,
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Speaker 2: that's gonna come in there and put the last bit
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Speaker 2: of his heart and soul into your program. You're not
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Speaker 2: gonna come in there and give you half asked because
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Speaker 2: he used to have a He's going to come in
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Speaker 2: there and just show that he's always respected the Kugs
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Speaker 2: and the respected the program they have and he wants
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Speaker 2: to add to it. But it's the double way. It's
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Speaker 2: the double new Heisel effect. It's it's the new Heidel squared,
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Speaker 2: where you do now have us you have a chance
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Speaker 2: of getting his son to fall in love with Cougar
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Speaker 2: Gold over the course of however long that he's you
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Speaker 2: know that he's cheese. Yes, all of a sudden he's saying,
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Speaker 2: now he gets the job after five years. And then
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Speaker 2: he does that, and he continues growing the program at
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Speaker 2: whatever level they're at. Now a sudden, you have six, seven,
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Speaker 2: eight years with this new Heiel, the new Heiseel squared program.
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Speaker 2: And yeah, now his kids in school, he can't have
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Speaker 2: you know, can't eat a meal without Cougar Gold cheese.
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Speaker 1: And you got him.
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Speaker 2: Maybe he sticks around here just like this is where
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Speaker 2: I want to be.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's getting ready to have children. I
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Speaker 1: mean it's got to be a little bit impactful to
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Speaker 1: have to want to keep them where they were born
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Speaker 1: and raised and started school. And you've got an opportunity
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Speaker 1: to do that. Yeah, you know, and maybe you do
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Speaker 1: lock him up. Maybe maybe the new Isel name does
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Speaker 1: become synonymous with Kook's football going forward, the new era
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Speaker 1: of Kook's football going forward. But anyway, I'm not trying
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Speaker 1: to convince anybody out there listening of it, no, you
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Speaker 1: really need to do this, But I think it sounds
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Speaker 1: like a good idea for the program, and I think
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Speaker 1: it'd be great for coach all right, coming up next
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Speaker 1: Seahawks quarterbacks that they faced over the years, like there's
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Speaker 1: a little bit of luck of facing backups more often
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Speaker 1: than everybody else. Well, I've decided I'm tired of wondering
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Speaker 1: if that's true. I did the research. We'll talk about
16:13
Speaker 1: it next. Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, sounds so weird, sounds helpful on the.
16:20
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame ballot. Five years removed from the National
16:25
Speaker 1: Football League, and yet so desperate are they that they
16:29
Speaker 1: have signed him this week, Philip Rivers has signed with
16:31
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts on their practice squad. Greg Bell has
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Speaker 1: given us twenty four hours of thought, and earlier this
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Speaker 1: morning told us that he's feeling like they're going to
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Speaker 1: start Philip Rivers. I don't think it's going to happen,
16:45
Speaker 1: but I do believe, especially if Riley Leonard can't go
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Speaker 1: because of injury. I mean, he's gonna have to be activated.
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Speaker 1: He's gonna have to be your backup. I mean, so
16:54
Speaker 1: Brett Rippin gets off the practice squad, he starts in
16:57
Speaker 1: the game. But now you're one injury from Philip Rivers playing.
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Speaker 1: So I think there's a chance that he plays on Sunday,
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Speaker 1: which is miraculous enough. But it's hard for me to
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Speaker 1: believe that he goes from five years coaching high school football,
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Speaker 1: no matter what good of shape that he's in, getting
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Speaker 1: activated or getting signed on a Tuesday, getting to the
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Speaker 1: practice field on a Wednesday, and he's ready to face
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Speaker 1: Mike McDonald's defense as a starter on Sunday.
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Speaker 2: No chance, right, I mean, I don't think. I think
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Speaker 2: it's no chance of him being successful in it. But
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Speaker 2: I don't think there's no chance. I mean, I think
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Speaker 2: the wane of Okay pros and cons our starter just
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Speaker 2: went out while we're in the middle of a downward
17:40
Speaker 2: spiral as a team. Torres Akielles so he ringing Riley Leonard.
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Speaker 2: They probably feel okay about that, right, He's a young kid. Okay, well,
17:49
Speaker 2: see what he can do, and it wasn't all that bad.
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Speaker 2: But then he hurts his knee. If he's healthy enough
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Speaker 2: to go, that's who's going. If he's not, I don't
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Speaker 2: think it's far fetched to think that it's that you
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Speaker 2: go with Philip Rivers over Brett Rippon because I get it.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's because it's five years out, but it's
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Speaker 2: they they did a workout and they like the fact
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Speaker 2: that he can make the throws. He's obviously not incapable
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Speaker 2: of making the throws. I was reading an article talking
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Speaker 2: about you know something that Greg ended up bringing up,
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Speaker 2: but I had read it yesterday about how familiar he
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Speaker 2: is with it. And it's not just because he runs
18:28
Speaker 2: it in his high school. It's because he spent six
18:30
Speaker 2: years with Shane Stikeen with the Chargers and one with
18:34
Speaker 2: the one with the Colts, and so to me, it's
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Speaker 2: he understands what it is that they're supposed to do.
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Speaker 2: That to me is more he I'll bet you, even
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Speaker 2: though he hasn't been in an NFL locker room in
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Speaker 2: five years, he understands how this is supposed to be
18:49
Speaker 2: run better than your your scout team quarterback does. It's
18:53
Speaker 2: just he They also said, he doesn't think they don't
18:55
Speaker 2: think he's in shape for football, like the plane shape
18:59
Speaker 2: that you have to be. Okay, so you can throw
19:01
Speaker 2: against air, but how can you run around? And do
19:04
Speaker 2: you want to put him at risk of doing it?
19:07
Speaker 2: That's where it starts to weigh in. But to me,
19:10
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm actually leaning more towards If Riley Leonard
19:13
Speaker 2: isn't ready to go, I think your second string, your
19:16
Speaker 2: next guy is probably Philibrits.
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Speaker 3: Well, they adjusted their practice schedule too. They now they're
19:21
Speaker 3: practicing Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. They usually don't, apparently.
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Speaker 1: So it seems to me that the Seahawks have faced
19:30
Speaker 1: a lot of backup quarterbacks this year. But Bucky and
19:33
Speaker 1: I have talked off the air, it seems like it
19:36
Speaker 1: happens a lot, not just this year, but year after year. Well,
19:41
Speaker 1: I looked it up. I actually did a little bit
19:43
Speaker 1: of digging on this, and it's not nearly as dramatic
19:46
Speaker 1: as you would think, or that you and I thought.
19:50
Speaker 1: I think this stems from that twenty nineteen season where
19:54
Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph, Teddy Bridgewater, Matt Shaub for Matt Ryan, Kyle
19:59
Speaker 1: Allen we faced for the Carolina Panthers. In twenty nine.
20:02
Speaker 1: It was just a list of them, and I think
20:04
Speaker 1: maybe that has tainted our thoughts because it hasn't been
20:06
Speaker 1: that dramatic. I'll just go back the last three years.
20:09
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty four, the only two Skyler Thompson and week
20:13
Speaker 1: number three and oh By the way, Ashley thinks we
20:15
Speaker 1: lose to backup quarterbacks all the time. We don't. That's
20:18
Speaker 1: also a little bit of a misnomer. Yeah we did.
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Speaker 3: It did feel like we were for a while.
20:23
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, we won against Skyler Thompson. Boy he was terrible. Yeah,
20:27
Speaker 1: he was really better. And then we won against Jimmy
20:29
Speaker 1: Garoppolo and he didn't start because of injury, started because
20:33
Speaker 1: he played the last game of the year because they
20:34
Speaker 1: were saving Stafford for the playoffs. Yeah. And so we
20:39
Speaker 1: only faced two backup quarterbacks last year and won them both.
20:41
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty three, only two PJ. Walker in Week eight
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Speaker 1: for the Cleveland Browns and Josh Dobbs in Week seven
20:49
Speaker 1: for the Arizona Cardinals, won them both.
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Speaker 3: Well, the year we played Cole McCoy, that's the one
20:54
Speaker 3: I'm thinking of.
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Speaker 1: I think it was like twenty I think there was
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Speaker 1: like nineteen seventy four. And then in twenty twenty two,
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Speaker 1: just two again, Mike White of the New York Jets
21:04
Speaker 1: and John Wolford of the Los Angeles Rams and won
21:07
Speaker 1: them both. So certainly I've had a pretty good record
21:10
Speaker 1: in recent years against backup quarterbacks, but we haven't faced
21:14
Speaker 1: nearly as many as what you and I thought that
21:17
Speaker 1: they were facing until this year. There have been eighteen
21:24
Speaker 1: NFL quarterbacks that have started all thirteen games this year.
21:27
Speaker 1: There have been twenty that have started twelve or more,
21:30
Speaker 1: and there have been twenty two that have started ten
21:32
Speaker 1: or more. So that leaves just ten situations in which
21:38
Speaker 1: we would have even been exposed, you know, mathematically, to
21:42
Speaker 1: having faced day backup quarterback. Now consider the Ford guy.
21:46
Speaker 1: Four teams that have benched their quarterbacks, so they don't
21:49
Speaker 1: count in this, you know, injury luck situation that we're describing.
21:53
Speaker 1: The New York Giants, the New Orleans Saints, the Cleveland Browns,
21:56
Speaker 1: the New York Jets, they just changed their quarterbacks. They
21:59
Speaker 1: didn't have anything would do with Russell having an injury,
22:02
Speaker 1: or Justin Field's got called out by his owner that
22:08
Speaker 1: he can't complete a pass. So those have just been
22:11
Speaker 1: some benching. So now that just leaves one, two, three, four, five, six,
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Speaker 1: seven seven situations. And I say seven because there's one
22:21
Speaker 1: that takes the math a little bit over. But seven
22:24
Speaker 1: injury situations out there that NFL teams have experienced. The
22:28
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, the Cincinnati Bengals, the Atlanta Falcons, the Washington Commanders,
22:36
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings, the San Francisco forty nine Ers, and
22:40
Speaker 1: now the seventh and now the math comes out, Daniel Jones.
22:45
Speaker 1: The Seahawks have faced five of those teams this year.
22:49
Speaker 1: Five of those quarterbacks backup quarterbacks this year, so there
22:54
Speaker 1: have been seven injured quarterback situations more than just a
22:59
Speaker 1: week or two in the National Football League, and the
23:02
Speaker 1: Seahawks have managed to face five of those teams while
23:06
Speaker 1: their quarterback was out. The Cardinals, the Falcons, the Vikings.
23:11
Speaker 1: Now Jadean Daniels did start and we were dominating them.
23:16
Speaker 1: We probably shouldn't count that one because we were dominating
23:18
Speaker 1: them even with Jaden Daniels, and then he got injured
23:21
Speaker 1: during the game. But now the Indianapolis Colt, So let's
23:23
Speaker 1: throw jad and Daniels out. But we faced four of
23:26
Speaker 1: the teams that have had injury situations this year in
23:30
Speaker 1: the National Football leage, we've got to face their backup quarterback.
23:33
Speaker 1: So even though historically it's not as dramatic as what
23:38
Speaker 1: you and I thought in our heads, this year it
23:40
Speaker 1: certainly has been dramatic how often the Seahawks have lucked out.
23:45
Speaker 1: If you want to call it that and gotten to
23:47
Speaker 1: face the backup quarterback as opposed to the starter, and
23:50
Speaker 1: it's huge. I mean if you think about all of
23:53
Speaker 1: a sudden, we want all of them. Yeah yeah, if
23:55
Speaker 1: you think, I mean, it is what it is, right.
23:57
Speaker 2: I mean, there's other teams that end up getting you know,
24:01
Speaker 2: it's not as important as the quarterback. I understand that.
24:04
Speaker 2: But if you think losing your your your lockdown corner
24:08
Speaker 2: the week before you have to go against you know,
24:12
Speaker 2: a high, high flying offense, it has a great you
24:15
Speaker 2: know receiver out there that can cost you a week.
24:19
Speaker 2: And yet to me, I mean obviously quarterback being the
24:22
Speaker 2: most important position is crazy.
24:23
Speaker 1: And we did lose our lockdown corner for a couple
24:25
Speaker 1: of weeks.
24:26
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and you'd likely had you know enough the backup,
24:29
Speaker 2: next man up type thing. Quarterback's a bigger drop off typically. Yeah, sure,
24:34
Speaker 2: I think that that's We've talked about it for a
24:35
Speaker 2: couple of years. When injuries happen, of boy, how important
24:39
Speaker 2: should people you know have as their backup guy? I
24:42
Speaker 2: mean the fact that having you know, a Jimmy Garoppolo
24:45
Speaker 2: is your backup versus having a Riley Leonard might be
24:48
Speaker 2: a benefit to to some of these teams that choose
24:51
Speaker 2: to go the younger route. So, but I think the
24:53
Speaker 2: idea of when one of the big tie breakers obviously
24:57
Speaker 2: you got your division record and your head to head,
25:00
Speaker 2: but it's not very far down that list of who
25:03
Speaker 2: you played, like your record against some common opponents, and
25:06
Speaker 2: if you get to play a team that your you know,
25:09
Speaker 2: your division foe had to play when they were fully
25:12
Speaker 2: healthy at the quarterback position, you get to go against
25:14
Speaker 2: Max Brosner, that's a that's a big advantage and you
25:18
Speaker 2: now they took advantage of it and they won whatever
25:21
Speaker 2: twenty six to zero. So I don't know for sure
25:23
Speaker 2: if JJ McCarthy would have made a hill of beans
25:25
Speaker 2: worth a difference. But there's there's some times that some
25:28
Speaker 2: teams beat San Francisco when it wasn't rock Party out there.
25:32
Speaker 1: We did face Brock Party.
25:33
Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah, that's the one you.
25:34
Speaker 1: Did have to.
25:35
Speaker 3: Yeah, we didn't.
25:37
Speaker 1: Want to face Cincinnati without Joe Burrow, but everybody else,
25:40
Speaker 1: Yeah we got to face them, yeah, and we want
25:43
Speaker 1: them all. So I mean, look, I think the Seahawks
25:46
Speaker 1: are very good. I don't think the ten and three
25:49
Speaker 1: record is because they faced a slew of backup quarterbacks.
25:53
Speaker 1: But if you were wondering, yeah, you know, if you
25:58
Speaker 1: win this week against the Indianapolis Colts, and I'm taking
26:00
Speaker 1: jayd and Daniels out of this equation because we were
26:02
Speaker 1: already dominating them. That's eleven wins and four of them
26:06
Speaker 1: against backup quarterbacks. Twenty five percent of your wins this
26:10
Speaker 1: year have been against backup quarterbacks. And well, actually more
26:13
Speaker 1: than that, over forty percent of your wins have been
26:16
Speaker 1: against backup quarterbacks so far this season. And even though
26:20
Speaker 1: I didn't do the math to the extent to find
26:23
Speaker 1: out how much everybody else in the National Football League
26:26
Speaker 1: has faced backup quarterbacks, but my guess is that did
26:29
Speaker 1: give us a little bit of an advantage this year.
26:32
Speaker 2: Well just look at the I mean, JJ McCarthy. I
26:34
Speaker 2: don't think is the world beater necessarily, but the jury
26:37
Speaker 2: is still out on how great he is. You get
26:39
Speaker 2: his backup and they come in here, you beat him
26:41
Speaker 2: twenty six to zero. He comes back to the game
26:43
Speaker 2: last week and they beat the Commanders. Now they're not
26:46
Speaker 2: good team, thirty one to zero. Right there, they shored
26:50
Speaker 2: zero against you, and most credit goes to the Seattle defense.
26:53
Speaker 2: The next week, they go against a lesser team, but
26:56
Speaker 2: they get the quarterback back and they win thirty one
26:58
Speaker 2: to zero. That is the night and day difference between
27:03
Speaker 2: that team. Even though I understand the difference between Seattle's
27:07
Speaker 2: defense and Washington Commander's defense, it still is to not
27:11
Speaker 2: be able to score versus score thirty one the next week,
27:14
Speaker 2: different different ballgame when you get your starter.
27:16
Speaker 1: Out there across some breaks, for sure. Not gonna apologize,
27:20
Speaker 1: don't feel bad. Yeah we're ten and three. Yeah, we
27:22
Speaker 1: take on.
27:23
Speaker 3: All You can only win whoever you can only be,
27:25
Speaker 3: whoever is out on the field in front of you.
27:27
Speaker 1: You can't have control over that.
27:28
Speaker 2: It ain't discounted. Ten and three is a legit ten
27:30
Speaker 2: and three, but still facts are facts.
27:34
Speaker 1: Seahawks take on all comers. That's right. It's not our
27:37
Speaker 1: fault that the starting quarterbacks are scared of us. Yeah,
27:44
Speaker 1: bring it, take it all right. Coming up next is
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Speaker 1: three point three k A R F. M. Kill. Ashley
28:06
Speaker 1: and I have been discussing for a while. At what
28:08
Speaker 1: point are all of these people that are so excited
28:10
Speaker 1: about giving money to eighteen year olds who may or
28:14
Speaker 1: may not stay at their school forever, going to get
28:16
Speaker 1: tired of doing it? Well, guess what. One guy has
28:20
Speaker 1: reached the boiling point after one attempt at giving money
28:24
Speaker 1: to a player to come to his alma mater and
28:28
Speaker 1: it not working out. Troy Aikman has had enough.
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Speaker 5: I think there's got to be some leadership at the
28:34
Speaker 5: very top that kind of cleans all of this up,
28:38
Speaker 5: and starting with players that accept money, there's got to
28:42
Speaker 5: be some accountability and responsibility on their behalf to have
28:46
Speaker 5: to stick with a program. I gave money to a kid.
28:49
Speaker 5: I won't mention who I've done it one time. Dot
28:52
Speaker 5: UCLA never met the young man.
28:54
Speaker 1: He was their year. He left after the year.
28:57
Speaker 5: I wrote a sizable check and he went to another school.
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Speaker 5: I didn't even get so much as a thank you note.
29:03
Speaker 5: You know, so thank you. It's one of those deals
29:06
Speaker 5: to where I'm done with Nil. I mean, I want
29:08
Speaker 5: to see you silly be successful, but I'm done with him.
29:11
Speaker 1: And I think any reasonable person is going to draw
29:14
Speaker 1: this conclusion when there are no guarantees that their investment
29:18
Speaker 1: will stick around or even be grateful for the money
29:22
Speaker 1: that they gave them. The problem I see is that
29:27
Speaker 1: there's so much silly money in the world right now
29:29
Speaker 1: that the next college football powers are just going to
29:32
Speaker 1: be the people who have a lums that have so
29:34
Speaker 1: much money. I mean, Troy Aikman's got a lot of money,
29:37
Speaker 1: but I would imagine a million dollar check to Troy
29:40
Speaker 1: Aikman's like, oh boy, I wish I had that back.
29:42
Speaker 1: There are some people that have so much money. What's
29:44
Speaker 1: a million dollars to me?
29:46
Speaker 2: Right?
29:46
Speaker 1: And if they take hold, I mean right now, Lane
29:50
Speaker 1: Kiffin's trying to get to LSU and Kaitlin de Moore
29:53
Speaker 1: had to get to Alabama. Are we sure in this
29:56
Speaker 1: new era that those are going to be the powers
29:59
Speaker 1: of the future? Because Texas Tech and Indiana turned things
30:03
Speaker 1: around in one season, one off season of transfer portal recruiting, right,
30:10
Speaker 1: And so are we sure that the powers that people
30:14
Speaker 1: are trying to get to are going to be the powers?
30:17
Speaker 1: Because I have a feeling that unless things radically change,
30:21
Speaker 1: the powers are going to be the people who have
30:22
Speaker 1: a lums, who have the silliest amounts of money.
30:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're right. And a former NFL quarterback back
30:28
Speaker 2: in the day, I mean he wouldn't making anything like
30:30
Speaker 2: what they make nowadays. But a guy back in the
30:32
Speaker 2: day doesn't compete with like an oil money guy.
30:36
Speaker 1: An oil money or a Bezos a town slash state
30:41
Speaker 1: full of oil money guys, right, I mean imagine, I
30:43
Speaker 1: mean Alabama can't compete with Texas Tech. They can't compete
30:46
Speaker 1: with Lubbock, Texas in terms of you know how many
30:49
Speaker 1: billionaires that they have in the state.
30:52
Speaker 2: Imagine getting a group of the billionaires together like lead
30:57
Speaker 2: boys being they know what they're playing with, right, they
31:01
Speaker 2: can put together.
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Speaker 1: Yet SMU is SMU the future power is San Jose State.
31:06
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the home of the most multi millionaires
31:09
Speaker 1: in America.
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Speaker 3: Even the people though with the bajillions of dollars didn't
31:14
Speaker 3: get there because they spent their money, you know, stupidly,
31:17
Speaker 3: right they So I think if they're not seeing a
31:19
Speaker 3: return on their investment and those players still continue to leave,
31:22
Speaker 3: they're going to eventually be like, well, this is what's
31:23
Speaker 3: this doing for me?
31:26
Speaker 1: I think so. But those Texas Tech oil people have
31:30
Speaker 1: seen an immediate return on their investment. They're now in
31:33
Speaker 1: the college football Playoff. They got one of the top
31:36
Speaker 1: four teams. Do you why how long it'll last. BYU
31:39
Speaker 1: right now has one of the top football teams and
31:42
Speaker 1: basketball teams in the country. And there's a reason for it.
31:47
Speaker 1: Church wants to win. Church wants to win bad. Those
31:52
Speaker 1: Mormons are competitive, and they are. They went out and
31:57
Speaker 1: got the number one high school recruit in America to
32:00
Speaker 1: come to BYU, and that kid's not Mormon, right, And.
32:04
Speaker 2: YSA just jumped into the whole frame too. Utah just
32:07
Speaker 2: hired some crazy like a financial firm to take over
32:12
Speaker 2: everything that is back, everything that is marketable in the
32:17
Speaker 2: in the whole thing. I mean, so the entire thing
32:19
Speaker 2: is going to be run by a firm now.
32:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know crazy. They've introduced some restrictions on
32:25
Speaker 1: what you can spend and so we'll see if that
32:28
Speaker 1: takes hold in the future years. And maybe it does
32:30
Speaker 1: balance things out, and maybe it doesn't turn into the
32:32
Speaker 1: world that I'm describing for you. But certainly, any right
32:39
Speaker 1: minded thinking person, and I give Troy Aikman credit for
32:43
Speaker 1: being one of those, is writing a check for half
32:46
Speaker 1: a million dollars, whatever the case may be, and watches
32:50
Speaker 1: the kid leave and go join another program one year later,
32:53
Speaker 1: and he got one win out of him. Yeah, two
32:55
Speaker 1: wins out of him. Nobody's going to continue that habit.
32:59
Speaker 3: Well, in first, they tried to get the fans to
33:01
Speaker 3: take care of it, all right.
33:02
Speaker 1: And I don't want that to happen anymore.
33:03
Speaker 3: Well, and it didn't work, so then they did this
33:05
Speaker 3: and this. I just don't see it. None of its sustainable.
33:08
Speaker 1: Don't take your kids lunch money and put it toward
33:12
Speaker 1: one college player, please, Yeah, you know, gamble it like
33:16
Speaker 1: normal people do that.
33:19
Speaker 2: He was kidding, all right.
33:22
Speaker 1: Coming up next, it's Humpday, and normally we spend Humpday
33:26
Speaker 1: sizing up the Seahawks next opponent. But the only topic,
33:28
Speaker 1: it seems, is Philip Rivers. So we're going to make
33:31
Speaker 1: next segment about the Colts and not about Philip Rivers.
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