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Religion at School and the Olympics · The Wes Carroll Morning Show

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Speaker 2: Monday morning, twenty ninth day of July. I'm Wes, thanks
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Speaker 2: for joining me. The Olympics got underway, not without some
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Speaker 2: controversy though. You're one of those people saying that you're
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Speaker 2: going to boycott the Olympics because of the opening ceremonies,
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Speaker 2: because of some of the imagery from the opening ceremonies.
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Speaker 3: That's fine, that's what you want to do. I'll tell
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Speaker 3: you this, And it's a few things to process in
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Speaker 3: all of this, and I understand it's is not the
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Speaker 3: kind of thing that you expect to see when you're
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Speaker 3: watching the opening ceremony of an Olympics. You just don't.
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Speaker 3: It's supposed to be about bringing people together. It's supposed
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Speaker 3: to be about the world taking it just a break
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Speaker 3: from controversy, even typically sometimes there's some controversy. Right, Sometimes
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Speaker 3: the world doesn't slow down and do things that it's
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Speaker 3: supposed to do and behave the way it's supposed to
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Speaker 3: behave just because it just doesn't do that. Sometimes all
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Speaker 3: of that stuff that we bring with us comes along.
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Speaker 3: But as far as opening ceremonies go, it should be
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Speaker 3: without controversy because it's about the world coming together to
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Speaker 3: support their athletes and support this at least peaceful period
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Speaker 3: of three weeks in theory. I know that we have,
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Speaker 3: you know, Russia's obviously not competing, and we've got it's
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Speaker 3: not quite a peaceful period. So let's talk a little
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Speaker 3: bit about the controversy because we had during the opening
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Speaker 3: ceremony a depiction of the Last Supper as done by
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Speaker 3: a number of I guess they were drag queens or
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Speaker 3: I don't, I don't know exactly. That was the story
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Speaker 3: at least that hey, you're going to have a depiction
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Speaker 3: of drag queens playing the role of the members of
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Speaker 3: the party at the Last Supper, right, Jesus the Apostles.
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Speaker 3: That's what we were basically told or via the interwebs, right,
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Speaker 3: we just kind of had it all laid out for us.
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Speaker 3: This is what it is, this is what you're seeing,
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Speaker 3: and this is why you should be upset. So let's
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Speaker 3: talk about what it was, because this is a basically
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Speaker 3: a depiction from ancient to Greece and I'm sorry, I'm
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Speaker 3: not you got to Dionysius the Greek god of fertility.
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Speaker 3: You've got a basically a party that's being depicted with
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Speaker 3: various and because it's the Olympics, it goes back to
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Speaker 3: ancient Greece. Right, So this is what we saw. But
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Speaker 3: basically the way that this was all sort of staged
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Speaker 3: was in a way that it depicted the Last Supper.
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Speaker 3: I know some people are saying, no, no, no, this
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Speaker 3: is just this Greek party, this bachan all or whatever
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Speaker 3: you say. It's not and that may have been what
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Speaker 3: the intention was, but it was sort of laid out
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Speaker 3: in a way to portray the Last Supper. I don't
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Speaker 3: know how anybody could argue that, including Paris twenty twenty four,
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Speaker 3: who has issued an apology basically saying we didn't mean
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Speaker 3: to offend anyone. We understand that wasn't the intent. We apologize.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 3: It's one of those apologies. It's a very orchestrated, well
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Speaker 3: thought out apology, but it's an apology just the same.
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Speaker 3: I guess what I would say to most people is,
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Speaker 3: and I'm certainly not someone to tell you what you
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Speaker 3: should and shouldn't boycott you. You do your thing. I've
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Speaker 3: told you before, my thoughts, We've had sort of the
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Speaker 3: bud Light Anheuser Busch boycott, and there was a point
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Speaker 3: where I felt like it was time maybe to back off,
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Speaker 3: But I certainly wasn't gonna tell anybody that they needed
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Speaker 3: to back off. Instead, I told you it just my
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Speaker 3: thoughts on it. These are my thoughts on this. When
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Speaker 3: I saw it, I thought that that's that's offensive. That's
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Speaker 3: intended to, you know, strike a certain chord with members
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Speaker 3: of the Christian faith. That's what I felt like it
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Speaker 3: was trying to do. And I still think that's what
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Speaker 3: it was trying to do. But this isn't something that
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Speaker 3: was done by the Olympic athletes. This isn't something specifically
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Speaker 3: done by the Olympics. It's not something that was done
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Speaker 3: by NBC. If you make up your mind that you're
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Speaker 3: not going to watch the Olympics or support our athletes
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Speaker 3: because of something that Paris twenty twenty four decided to do,
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Speaker 3: you might be better served boycotting the city of Paris.
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Speaker 3: Don't go to France, don't visit France in the future,
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Speaker 3: don't do it. I realize for a lot of people,
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Speaker 3: the opportunity to go to Paris or to go to
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Speaker 3: France is on their bucket list. It's a challenging thing
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Speaker 3: to say, I'm going to boycott, but if you're really
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Speaker 3: offended by it, you're better suited boycotting a trip to France.
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Speaker 3: That's my thoughts. I don't think that not supporting our
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Speaker 3: athletes is the right way to stand up to what
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Speaker 3: we saw. It would be different if our athletes were
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Speaker 3: participating now. I know we've had situations in the past
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Speaker 3: where people say, well, I'm not going to watch the
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Speaker 3: Olympics because you know, certain athletes aren't standing up for
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Speaker 3: the national anthem. Certain athletes are protesting, certain athletes have
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Speaker 3: had negative things to say about America. All of that
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Speaker 3: varying levels of reasons to not support maybe those athletes,
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Speaker 3: but as a whole, not supporting the other athletes who
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Speaker 3: are saying, hey, we just want to stand here and
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Speaker 3: hear are anthem and be proud. It's my thoughts on that.
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Speaker 3: All right, that's part one of the show as it
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Speaker 3: relates to some religious stuff. We have another thing to
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Speaker 3: talk about here as it relates to religious stuff, and
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Speaker 3: that relates to the state of Oklahoma. Oklahoma is now
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Speaker 3: pushing forward on their They're going to be teaching more
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Speaker 3: religious things in the classroom, and they're trying to get
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Speaker 3: this done in time for the new school year. All right,
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Speaker 3: so let's talk about that. Some people are like, Wow,
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Speaker 3: this is great, We're going to get some more you know,
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Speaker 3: religious content in the schools going out to the kids.
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Speaker 3: And I think that there's a there's a couple that
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Speaker 3: this is not one of those black and white issues.
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Speaker 3: I know. Some people are like, great, kids need to
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Speaker 3: get some religious context in their teaching. Now let's talk.
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Speaker 3: Let's compare this a little bit to Louisiana, where it's, hey,
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Speaker 3: we want to have the Ten Commandments in the classrooms
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Speaker 3: because it's part of it's a historical context for the
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Speaker 3: basis for many of our laws in this country, and
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Speaker 3: our you know, the Magna Carta needs to be posted
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Speaker 3: and all these sorts of things, okay, and Declaration of Independence,
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Speaker 3: the Constitution, any of those things. I think in that context,
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Speaker 3: you're making a case that this relates to how the
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Speaker 3: founders came up with a set of laws, the whole
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Speaker 3: Judeo Christian value use that are part of all of this.
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Speaker 3: That's the case you can make. I understand why people
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Speaker 3: are saying, hey, we don't want something that pushes Judaism.
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Speaker 3: We don't want something that pushes Christianity into the schools.
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Speaker 3: I understand that, I get that, I understand why that
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Speaker 3: will be protested and probably overturned. But let's get into
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Speaker 3: another aspect of this. For Oklahoma, and I think they're
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Speaker 3: trying to do this in a similar way. But let's
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Speaker 3: think for a minute about the dangers of teaching any
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Speaker 3: religion in the classroom, but specifically Christianity. Okay, if your
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Speaker 3: kid is going to a private school where they're learning
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Speaker 3: biblical values, that's if it's a religious private school. It's fine.
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Speaker 3: If they're going to a school that falls into the
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Speaker 3: category of any other faith and they're learning those values,
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Speaker 3: that's a private school. That's separate. Concern is when we
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Speaker 3: start talking about, you know, in the classroom, they're learning
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Speaker 3: some biblical concepts or ideas and it's not a religion class. See,
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Speaker 3: there's churches that I don't want to teach my children
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Speaker 3: Christian values. There's some churches where I wouldn't allow my
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Speaker 3: kids to go and learn. Think about it this way.
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Speaker 3: We have some churches that are splitting off. You have
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Speaker 3: you know, United Methodist churches, they have they got churches
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Speaker 3: voting all over still, Are we're going to be part
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Speaker 3: of a United Methodists? Are we're not going to be
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Speaker 3: part of United Methodists? There is an ideology behind it.
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Speaker 3: You got hey, should we have gay ministers? Should we
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Speaker 3: teach that homosexuality is not a sin and that we
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Speaker 3: should have gay ministers? Should we not have the gay
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Speaker 3: ministers and teach that it is a sin? We're seeing this.
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Speaker 3: This has come up a variety of different splits for
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Speaker 3: different denominations. It's happened before, it has happened, and it
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Speaker 3: will happen. So and I have friends that go to
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Speaker 3: churches that are facing these decisions or have faced these decisions,
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Speaker 3: and they've moved on to other churches because of either
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Speaker 3: voting to stay or voting to go. So, if you
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Speaker 3: didn't believe whatever the message was, if Oklahoma decides to
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Speaker 3: teach something that you don't agree with in their classrooms
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Speaker 3: as part of their whatever their lesson plan is, and
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Speaker 3: I would imagine the overall context of what they're trying
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Speaker 3: to do is very similar to what they're doing in Louisiana.
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Speaker 3: Probably not going to actually sit in there and preach
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Speaker 3: to the kids. But this is why I think on
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Speaker 3: its surface, as people are immediately towing the line and
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Speaker 3: deciding this is where I stand on this issue. I'll
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Speaker 3: just tell you, I don't want teach if I know
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Speaker 3: the teacher's values and I know that they're going to
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Speaker 3: be talking about it in class, that's one thing, right,
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Speaker 3: but you don't you don't know what the teachers are
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Speaker 3: going to tell the kids in the classroom. We've run
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Speaker 3: into that with a number of issues. We've run into
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Speaker 3: that with, you know, keeping private if a child decides
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Speaker 3: that they're going to live us a different gender, and
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Speaker 3: we've seen that pop up in a number of school
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Speaker 3: districts around the country, and that's a big part of
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Speaker 3: why Elon Musk is leaving California and taking his empire
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Speaker 3: away from California, and good for him for that. That's
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Speaker 3: where he decided to draw the line on it. It
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Speaker 3: was a number of things, but I guess that was
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Speaker 3: ultimately the one where he said, you know, if they're
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Speaker 3: passing legislation that you know, you can change a child's
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Speaker 3: gender without telling the parents, or be part of it,
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Speaker 3: or help them in some way, or advocate for it
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Speaker 3: without involving the parents. And that's where he said that's enough.
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Speaker 3: That's the end for me. So no, I don't want
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Speaker 3: my kids taught in school from a religious context if
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Speaker 3: I don't know what they're being taught. How can someone
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Speaker 3: support a teacher in a classroom who doesn't necessarily have
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Speaker 3: a background in theology, who doesn't have a background in
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Speaker 3: necessarily rooted in my specific belief system, telling my kids
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Speaker 3: what they should and shouldn't believe when it comes to
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Speaker 3: faith or where things are. I'm uncomfortable with it. I'm
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Speaker 3: just offering that as another way to think about it,
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Speaker 3: another way to approach it, because some people are saying,
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Speaker 3: I can you not want them to do it? How
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Speaker 3: can you not want to boycott the Olympics. It's a
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Speaker 3: little more complicated, little more nuanced than that. It's not
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Speaker 3: really so cut and dry, is it. I mean, is
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Speaker 3: that really where things are with all of it? Is
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Speaker 3: that we're just looking at this completely from a binary stance,
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Speaker 3: a binary standpoint. That's it, all right, last thing for today,
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Speaker 3: And this isn't from a religious perspective, although I think
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Speaker 3: for some people maybe there's some religion when it comes
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Speaker 3: to politics, and that relates to both sides to some people.
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Speaker 3: But did you see the vice president, Kamala Harris getting
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Speaker 3: her endorsement phone call from the Obamas. Now, how many
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Speaker 3: times do we see the endorsement phone call like recorded
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Speaker 3: and then sent out to the world. You know, here
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Speaker 3: you go, here's what happened. It's not typical. It's not
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Speaker 3: normally the way it happens normally, that's done in private.
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Speaker 3: The call gets made, they tell it everybody, Hey, we're
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Speaker 3: really excited to let you know that Barack and Michelle
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Speaker 3: Obama have endorsed Kamala Harris for president. I mean, that
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Speaker 3: was like the last domino to fall right, that was
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Speaker 3: the last shoe to fall, shoe to drop, all those expressions,
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Speaker 3: that was it. That was the missing piece of the puzzle.
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Speaker 3: They were waiting on the Obamas to say, yep, you
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Speaker 3: have our support, because there was still this contingency of
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Speaker 3: people thinking that Michelle was going to jump into the race,
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Speaker 3: that she was going to be the one in Chicago.
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Speaker 3: They were going to surprise everybody and it was going
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Speaker 3: to be a ww E style moment. Oh my gosh,
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Speaker 3: that's Michelle Obama. Have some music. You know who am
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Speaker 3: I kid? It would have been like jay Z and Beyonce.
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Speaker 3: They're tight with them. That's why I say that. You
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Speaker 3: know they're tight with the Obamas. So that's clearly now
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Speaker 3: not necessarily going to be the case. I mean, you
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Speaker 3: can't completely rule out something crazy, but certainly appears now
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Speaker 3: this was the final straw. This is it, This is
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Speaker 3: what they were waiting for. So of course she had
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Speaker 3: to have the very awkward publicly broadcast speakerphone and I
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Speaker 3: don't even know at the beginning of it, she said, Hey,
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Speaker 3: I'm going to put you on speakerphones. Everybody can hear.
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Speaker 3: That's the polite thing to do it. If you don't
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Speaker 3: do that, who could vote for somebody that didn't tell
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Speaker 3: the world that it was us. I mean, that's that's
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Speaker 3: a that's a crazy person, isn't it. If you're not
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Speaker 3: telling It's like if you're in the car and you
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Speaker 3: don't say, hey, I'm on speakerphone and you know so
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Speaker 3: and so is sitting here with me. I know that
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Speaker 3: can be a source for it. With couples, that can
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Speaker 3: be a source of one. Why did you say that?
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Speaker 3: But the reality is you have to. It's just courtesy.
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Speaker 3: You're supposed to let them know. Hey, don't say anything embarrassing,
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Speaker 3: don't say anything offensive. We've all that friend that if
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Speaker 3: you don't announce, hey i'm in the car, my kids here,
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Speaker 3: it's speakerphone. Behave yourself. This isn't just you and me
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Speaker 3: goofing around. All right, behave yourself. But she did it,
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Speaker 3: made sure to do it in a way that everybody
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Speaker 3: could hear the Obamas saying how proud they were of
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Speaker 3: her and that they were supporting her. And so that's atypical,
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Speaker 3: that's not normally what you do. You don't normally do
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Speaker 3: it that way. But it's sort of part of that religion,
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Speaker 3: isn't it. See right now we have the left saying, oh,
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Speaker 3: people are worshiping at the feet of Donald Trump, and
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Speaker 3: they worship him. There's a lot of worship for the Obamas.
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Speaker 3: There's a lot of work. There's so much worship for
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Speaker 3: the Obamas that if Michelle Obama had said I want
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Speaker 3: to be the president, they would have pushed Kamala out
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Speaker 3: of the way so fast. There's no way, no way.
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Speaker 3: But I think that conversation it was made clear. You know,
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Speaker 3: that conversation probably happened a while back. She's been saying
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Speaker 3: I don't want to do that, I don't want to
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Speaker 3: be president. You could still do it. I talked about
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Speaker 3: it on the show. I said I didn't think necessarily
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Speaker 3: that's where it was going, but I did wonder about
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Speaker 3: this whole, you know, having the convention in Chicago. I
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Speaker 3: still don't understand that Illinois is not a state they
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Speaker 3: need to worry about. Where Republicans got a nice bump
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Speaker 3: in having their convention in Milwaukee. They got a nice
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Speaker 3: bump in Wisconsin, and that makes sense. You go and
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Speaker 3: you do it somewhere where you can. And I thought,
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Speaker 3: surely they'll do it in Atlanta, they'll do it in Charlotte,
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Speaker 3: they'll do it somewhere where they're trying to make some ground.
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Speaker 3: But no, that's not what they did. They picked Chicago.
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Speaker 3: And you think, well, maybe at Chicago because of Michelle Obama.
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Speaker 3: It's hard not to wonder about that at least anyway.
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Speaker 3: So now we know exactly who the candidate is. I
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Speaker 3: want to talk more about this basically in the coming
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Speaker 3: week or so, but I just want to lay out
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Speaker 3: this scenario because I've really been I've been thinking about this,
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Speaker 3: and we talked about it on a Thursday. This idea
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Speaker 3: that they're pretending that the vice president wasn't put in
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Speaker 3: charge of the border, and they said no, no, no, no,
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Speaker 3: we never did that. I guess the question we need
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Speaker 3: to ask ourselves is why are they trying to disassociate
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Speaker 3: her from the border if they think the border's going well?
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Speaker 3: Because they keep telling us everything's fine at the border,
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Speaker 3: there's no crisis, everything's okay. So why are they trying
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Speaker 3: to dissociate her from that? If they think everything's going well,
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Speaker 3: they should be definitely just lumping her. Hey, she's doing
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Speaker 3: a great job at the border. She is fantastic. Everything
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Speaker 3: that we have seen play out at the border is
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Speaker 3: exactly what we were hoping when we gave her that position.
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Speaker 3: Kind of kind of steps all over their own toes,
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Speaker 3: doesn't it. Anyway. We'll talk more about that than some
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Speaker 3: other things in the coming days, But I do think
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Speaker 3: right after the break. So the Olympics is underway and
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Speaker 3: women's soccer is the sport that people are most excited
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Speaker 3: based on popularity from the Tokyo Games. That people want
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Speaker 3: to watch, women's individual around gymnastics, men's basketball, men's one
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Speaker 3: hundred meter track, women's one hundred meter track, of the
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Speaker 3: top five events, the bottom five I've I don't know
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Speaker 3: that I would have thought immediately of these, and that's
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Speaker 3: an indication of why people might not be very excited
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Speaker 3: about the sports is they're not things that you think about, right.
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Speaker 3: So here here are the bottom five. The men's fifty
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Speaker 3: kilometer racewalk, not a lot of people hype in about.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I think we should, you know, still support
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Speaker 3: our athletes. Next men's Modern pentathlon, which is running, swimming, shooting, fencing,
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Speaker 3: equestrian women's modern pentathlon, and then the men's twenty meter racewalk,
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Speaker 3: and the women's twenty I'm sorry twenty kilometer racewalk, and
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Speaker 3: then the women's twenty kilometer. And I don't know if
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Speaker 3: I said that's a men's fifty kilometer anyway, Yeah, I mean,
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Speaker 3: there's nothing like watching people fast walk fifty kilometers that
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Speaker 3: seems like it wouldn't be overly exciting. That makes sense
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Speaker 3: to me. I understand that not necessarily get all of
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Speaker 3: the hype rolling into the games. We know that blue
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Speaker 3: light emitted from phones and tablets messes with our sleeping eyes,
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Speaker 3: but now dermatologists are warning it can also mess with
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Speaker 3: your skin. Seems all that exposure to blue light can
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Speaker 3: stimulate production of melanin, the pigment in our skin. The
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Speaker 3: overproduction of melanin can lead to dark spots in the skin.
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Speaker 3: Same as tanning, a blue light can damage collagen and
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Speaker 3: lead to more wrinkles. So they say, make sure to
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Speaker 3: use a night mode setting or a blue light filter
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Speaker 3: and reduce your exposure to blue light in the evenings.
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Speaker 3: Minimize screen time before bed, hold your phone or device
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Speaker 3: away from your skin to minimize exposure to blue light.
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Speaker 3: And it even use sunscreen while you're using your device.
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Speaker 3: How about that? That seems a bit much. I do
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Speaker 3: have a pair of those blue light glasses, and that's
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Speaker 3: for days when i know I'm going to be staring
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Speaker 3: at the screen for a really long time as I'm
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Speaker 3: thinking about it, and I'm putting them on as I'm
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Speaker 3: staring at all all of my screens in here. But
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Speaker 3: just some food for thought. You gotta be careful with
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Speaker 3: all that blue light. There's been an ongoing feud between
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Speaker 3: Freedo Lay and the man who has long claimed to
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Speaker 3: have invented the flaming hot Cheetos, and it's starting to
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Speaker 3: heat up even more as Richard Montanez former Freedo Lay
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Speaker 3: employee who insists he invented the super spicy version of
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Speaker 3: the stack back in nineteen ninety two, and is now
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Speaker 3: suing parent company PepsiCo, accusing it of running a smear
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Speaker 3: campaign against him. Freedo Lay has disputed his claim that
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Speaker 3: he is the mastermind behind Flaming Hot Cheetos Now. Montanez
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Speaker 3: says that he's been a victim of fraud or racial
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Speaker 3: discrimination and defamation. He also argues the company violated California's
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Speaker 3: unfair competition law. Freedo Lay has called his claim an
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Speaker 3: urban legend and says it has no record of him
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Speaker 3: ever being involved in any capacity in the Flaming Hot
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Speaker 3: test MARKETZ. I like that. I like that the Flaming
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Speaker 3: Hot test market. Montanez has authored two books, twenty twenty
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Speaker 3: one's Flaming Hot, The Incredible True Story of one man's
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Speaker 3: rise from janitor to top Executive and twenty fourteen's A Boy,
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Speaker 3: a Burrito and a Cookie From Janitor to Executive, and
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Speaker 3: a subject of Eva Longoria's twenty twenty three film Flamin' Hot.
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Speaker 3: So the Flaming Hot Test Market. I like that Turkey
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Speaker 3: Hill and Barbie have teamed up to create two new
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Speaker 3: ice cream flavors inspired by Barbie. To celebrate Barbie's sixty
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Speaker 3: fifth anniversary, Turkey Hill is offering two limited edition flavors,
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Speaker 3: Strawberry Marshmallow and Frosted Cupcake. I don't think it's gonna
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Speaker 3: come as a big shock that they're pink. They'll be
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Speaker 3: in stores, available in stores next month, so yeah, keep
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Speaker 3: an eye out for him. At least one of those
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Speaker 3: sounds interesting. But uh, I don't know about both of
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Speaker 3: those things. Uh So there you go. That'll do it
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