Latest / Clydesdale Media Podcast / Sunday Night CrossFit Talk - Who is Going to the CrossFit Games from the French Throwdown
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- 0:02Well, it's all over in France,
- 0:04and we're here to talk about it.
- 0:37what is going on everybody welcome to
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- 1:10So, it has been a crazy weekend.
- 1:12I was just telling the ladies that it's
- 1:15been wild with my mom in the air
- 1:18on her way to Columbus.
- 1:21She was delayed in Montana because of
- 1:22snow.
- 1:24And...
- 1:25Is trying to get here.
- 1:28We finally found out about ten minutes ago
- 1:31that she got on her flight to Columbus.
- 1:34So she is on her way.
- 1:36And that's that.
- 1:37But it was hot here today.
- 1:40So stinking hot.
- 1:42It did get,
- 1:42I think it got like eighty,
- 1:44I don't know, eighty-two.
- 1:44But we're just not used to it yet.
- 1:46So it felt so hot.
- 1:48I mean, I'm not complaining.
- 1:49Bring on the heat.
- 1:50But to hear you say that there was
- 1:51snow in Montana is crazy.
- 1:53Because like,
- 1:53it was like forty-two on Monday.
- 1:56Tuesday or Wednesday.
- 1:57It was awful.
- 1:58I golfed.
- 1:58I was freezing.
- 2:00Um, yeah,
- 2:02I was pleasantly surprised that it was so
- 2:04hot today,
- 2:04but how the frick did they have snow?
- 2:06That's crazy.
- 2:06They,
- 2:08my daughter actually took my mom up to
- 2:10glacier national park and the roads are
- 2:14still closed because of the weather.
- 2:16Wow.
- 2:17Yeah.
- 2:20That's wild.
- 2:21It is.
- 2:21I mean, in the caps of the mountains.
- 2:23So yeah.
- 2:25We're approaching June.
- 2:26It's crazy.
- 2:27It's crazy that it's taken that long to
- 2:28warm up here, honestly.
- 2:30And Julie and I were planting flowers
- 2:31today.
- 2:32What was that, Carolyn?
- 2:35We've had a lot of rain here in
- 2:37Toronto this year.
- 2:38We had a bad winter,
- 2:39a lot of snow this year in the
- 2:41wintertime.
- 2:42And in the spring,
- 2:43it's like one nice day,
- 2:45a few rainy days,
- 2:48one nice day sprinkled in there,
- 2:49and then back to being bad.
- 2:51Today was nice.
- 2:53We've had a ton of rain,
- 2:54and then the last five days or so
- 2:57have been all sunny.
- 2:59I don't even know what to do.
- 3:01I don't think we've ever had that many
- 3:03sunny days in a row.
- 3:06So anyway,
- 3:09this weekend we had the Ronda Rousey,
- 3:12Gina Caron fight.
- 3:14If you stayed up,
- 3:16was it really worth it?
- 3:18It fit in an Instagram reel.
- 3:22I know you watched it, Carolyn.
- 3:24You are a Taekwondo person that I don't
- 3:29know what they're called.
- 3:32What were your thoughts on the fight?
- 3:35I mean, Ronda's done this very, like,
- 3:37many times where she takes down the
- 3:40person, like, very,
- 3:41very early in the fight and then can
- 3:44put them into a submission pretty fast.
- 3:46I mean, that's what we saw.
- 3:50If she's forced to stand up against
- 3:52stand-up fighters, she struggles.
- 3:54I mean, Holly Holm got her.
- 3:56She's, like, a kickboxer.
- 3:58Amanda Nunes, I just think,
- 3:59is the best female boxer or just female
- 4:01MMA fighter.
- 4:03um but yeah like i don't think her
- 4:05stand-up game is phenomenal but her her
- 4:07judo background and her ground game is so
- 4:11good and so elite that yeah she just
- 4:14took her down and i'm i was happy
- 4:15for her to finish on a on a
- 4:18win because she had a rough rough few
- 4:21last fights in her career so yeah i
- 4:24only thought i saw her weigh in and
- 4:26i was like oh god she looks rough
- 4:29like she was like limping
- 4:32Well, weigh-ins are tough.
- 4:33Like, you lose so much weight,
- 4:34and then you have to, like,
- 4:36put it on that night.
- 4:37She looked like she was missing, like,
- 4:38half of her muscle on her right leg
- 4:40to me.
- 4:40I mean, sometimes it'd be like that.
- 4:43I used to be, like,
- 4:43spitting in a cup with, like,
- 4:45garbage bag on me in a sauna and,
- 4:47like, chewing gum just to, like,
- 4:50get more out of... I saw... Go ahead,
- 4:55Carolyn.
- 4:55Sorry.
- 4:55Fighting so much about styles, like...
- 4:59you know,
- 5:00a certain style that you go up against,
- 5:02you know,
- 5:02you can beat someone and then because your
- 5:04style works against that person,
- 5:06but not against the next person.
- 5:08And like Ronda was just at the top
- 5:10for so long.
- 5:11And when you're at the top for,
- 5:13for a long time,
- 5:15like in any sport,
- 5:16like it's hard to stay at the top.
- 5:18And I just feel like people over the
- 5:19years studied her so much and then kind
- 5:22of exploited some of her weaknesses in the
- 5:24standup game.
- 5:25But yeah, it's,
- 5:27it's all about matchups and it's like,
- 5:29you can be the best fighter in the
- 5:30world,
- 5:31but like sometimes like if you fight
- 5:32against people that you don't know,
- 5:34like they have a better shot of beating
- 5:36you,
- 5:36even though that might not be as good.
- 5:37Cause just cause you haven't,
- 5:38you don't know their tendencies.
- 5:40Yeah.
- 5:41Yeah,
- 5:41that happened with Rocky Balboa and Apollo
- 5:43Creed.
- 5:44Fighting a left-hander is just awkward.
- 5:47It's just awkward.
- 5:50I saw someone say,
- 5:52all the fights ended quick.
- 5:53All but one of the fights last night
- 5:55ended in the first round.
- 5:57Jeez.
- 5:59But they were fun to watch because there
- 6:01was no, like,
- 6:02slowdowns in any of the fights.
- 6:04It was pure action from the opening bell
- 6:08till the TKO or knockout that occurred,
- 6:11except for the Nate Diaz fight.
- 6:14And Nate got pummeled so bad,
- 6:19bleeding from the back of the head,
- 6:20from the front of the head.
- 6:23And they finally had to stop it because
- 6:24he just was bleeding too much.
- 6:27But, yeah.
- 6:31Gina said she wished she fought a striker.
- 6:34That's not Ronda.
- 6:34No.
- 6:35Not at all.
- 6:38And I saw CrossFit say it felt like
- 6:40a work.
- 6:41I kind of felt that too.
- 6:43But that's just how Rousey has fought her
- 6:46whole career.
- 6:50It's either done in under a minute or
- 6:53she has trouble.
- 6:55She's always very aggressive off the
- 6:57get-go to try to bring that person down.
- 6:59Many times she's kind of rushed her
- 7:01opponent pretty early on to try to get
- 7:04them.
- 7:05A couple times she got clocked and then
- 7:08after that I had to...
- 7:10She was so square and no head movement
- 7:13for if she gets clocked early on.
- 7:17It was almost sad at the end of
- 7:19her career to watch her because I was
- 7:20a huge Ronda fan.
- 7:25Yeah, it reminds me of, like,
- 7:26I was the biggest Mike Tyson fan prior
- 7:29to the criminal stuff and all that, right?
- 7:35And then he just,
- 7:36he looked like a shell of himself after
- 7:38that.
- 7:40And, yeah, crazy.
- 7:44So the other thing that happened this
- 7:45weekend is the Dutton Ranch premiered.
- 7:49Oh.
- 7:51And it is the spinoff from Yellowstone
- 7:54with Beth and Rip.
- 7:56Holy smokes.
- 7:59Just one episode?
- 8:00Two.
- 8:00They released the first two.
- 8:03And it is...
- 8:06I think it's better than the ending
- 8:08episodes of Yellowstone so far.
- 8:11Okay.
- 8:14And it's weird with Beth being likable,
- 8:18but I'm kind of digging it.
- 8:20And it's...
- 8:23It's really good.
- 8:24I don't want to spoil it for anybody
- 8:25because there's a lot of stuff that
- 8:26happens in the first two episodes.
- 8:29But with any Taylor Sheridan,
- 8:30it's jam-packed full of stuff.
- 8:33So it's like post-Yellowstone.
- 8:36It is literally at the end of Yellowstone,
- 8:39Rip and Beth decide they're going to go
- 8:40up north in Montana and start a ranch.
- 8:45It literally picks up right from there.
- 8:47All right.
- 8:54Because Julie and I have been watching
- 8:55Marshalls, which is the other spinoff,
- 8:58and I've been disappointed with the
- 8:59writing.
- 8:59I just think it's lazy.
- 9:02I have not enjoyed it at all.
- 9:04This one,
- 9:05I cannot wait for the next episode.
- 9:10I'm not going to spoil.
- 9:11I'm not even going to tell you anything
- 9:12that happens.
- 9:15If anything,
- 9:15I would say would ruin a piece of
- 9:18it.
- 9:21But it does star,
- 9:22it also stars not only Beth and Rip,
- 9:24but Annette Bening, Ed Harris.
- 9:29So there's some big names in this one.
- 9:33And it's really good.
- 9:35Annette Bening is really good.
- 9:37I like her.
- 9:40The American President is one of my
- 9:41favorite movies.
- 9:43It's a great movie.
- 9:45Written by Aaron Sorkin,
- 9:46who's my favorite writer of all time.
- 9:49then finally i have a question for carolyn
- 9:52are you nervous at all about tomorrow
- 9:54night uh game seven game seven it's been
- 10:01weird games like they're like blowout
- 10:02games like it's like montreal went a few
- 10:06couple blowout games and then this last
- 10:10one was a blowout um
- 10:14Yeah, I am a little nervous.
- 10:15I hope that they win.
- 10:16I hope Montreal wins.
- 10:18They have the best fans in the NHL.
- 10:24Is that because you're one of them?
- 10:25No, it's because it's like a fact.
- 10:30Best arena as well.
- 10:32Crossfats poking the bear.
- 10:34Probably going to be Avs, Canes anyway,
- 10:36right?
- 10:38Nah.
- 10:41think we can beat the Canes even though
- 10:43they haven't lost it's that French
- 10:49confidence there you go well sports have
- 10:56been awesome the last couple weeks it's
- 10:58you know the fights last night were great
- 11:00the hockey's been great until the Penguins
- 11:02lost it's just been it's been a fun
- 11:06fun year for sports so far
- 11:09But including that as the CrossFit Games
- 11:11season,
- 11:11and so we're going to jump into the
- 11:13French Throwdown,
- 11:14which was the next competition in the
- 11:17semifinal series to get you to the
- 11:19CrossFit Games.
- 11:22And it kicked off this weekend.
- 11:25It was weird because of the time
- 11:27difference for me.
- 11:28Yeah.
- 11:29Like the event started at two in the
- 11:31morning.
- 11:32But I said this on the Friday show,
- 11:34like I got up to pee at four
- 11:36o'clock in the morning on Friday and I
- 11:39came back and Lito was on the screen.
- 11:41And so I stayed up long enough to
- 11:43watch Lito go.
- 11:45And then I went back to bed and
- 11:46then rewound some to kind of catch up
- 11:52on everything.
- 11:52But I thought it was an awesome event.
- 11:56My favorite so far.
- 11:59Yeah, I think they,
- 12:00it was great to see the broadcast on
- 12:02like all the different heats too.
- 12:04Pedro and company did an amazing job.
- 12:07Pedro specifically did awesome on the,
- 12:09on the mic and had some funny bits
- 12:12and was honest on some of the no
- 12:14reps too.
- 12:15Yeah.
- 12:15Yeah.
- 12:17Yeah, I thought that he did a really,
- 12:18really good job all weekend and just kept
- 12:21the energy,
- 12:22even though I'm sure it must have been
- 12:23so long for him to do all those
- 12:24heats.
- 12:25I'm not even sure if he got many
- 12:27breaks at all.
- 12:28I know.
- 12:31We're talking beginners, intermediates,
- 12:34RX, and elites.
- 12:37All the teams.
- 12:38Yeah, he was on the whole time,
- 12:40like seven hours free.
- 12:40I couldn't believe it.
- 12:42He did awesome, though.
- 12:44He really did.
- 12:46I don't think I could do that.
- 12:47There's no way he didn't even like,
- 12:50it wasn't even like repetitive.
- 12:55No,
- 12:55he had stuff to say about the athletes.
- 12:56He had stuff to say about the different
- 12:58divisions, the workout.
- 13:03Yeah, it was great.
- 13:05incredible he was so good and and i
- 13:07agree with tessa or yeah tessa's bkg was
- 13:11really good when he was on but he
- 13:13was only on after his team was done
- 13:15so we only got a short little stint
- 13:17of him but he like he knew all
- 13:21the people and what camp they were in
- 13:23what they've been doing like he knew he
- 13:26was really really good and you know he
- 13:28wasn't preparing for it yeah
- 13:32it is really nice when whoever's on has
- 13:35knowledge of the athlete.
- 13:36Quite honestly,
- 13:37I feel like Peter had extensive knowledge
- 13:40of more than you would think he would
- 13:42know.
- 13:42I mean, he knew where,
- 13:45like what gym and maybe he had that
- 13:46in front of him, but he was like,
- 13:47Oh, they're with this gym.
- 13:48And he said that all about a lot
- 13:50of people.
- 13:52Yeah.
- 13:53Yeah.
- 13:55I think, I think what helped the,
- 13:59the overall thing was, um,
- 14:02in the other divisions not the elite they
- 14:05did men on one side women on the
- 14:07other so it helped the day flow better
- 14:12and faster and i think that really was
- 14:15an asset to the overall broadcast yeah i'm
- 14:20not generally a fan of twenty lanes agree
- 14:25it worked really well here it did
- 14:27It may not have worked.
- 14:29Don't get me wrong.
- 14:30I say it every time we watch one.
- 14:32I'm yelling at the screen.
- 14:34the cameramen don't always do a great job.
- 14:36And Peter even, like, sometimes, like,
- 14:38well, you know, so-and-so's doing it.
- 14:41The thing is,
- 14:41he did such a great job of commentating
- 14:43that I didn't even care that the camera
- 14:44wasn't on that person.
- 14:45But I was wishing that that cameraman had
- 14:47earpiece to hear Pedro be like,
- 14:49if they would show you so-and-so in lane
- 14:51eight,
- 14:52because that's who he's talking about.
- 14:54But he did such a good job that
- 14:55I didn't even care.
- 14:56And, yes,
- 14:57twenty lanes is hard to fit it all
- 14:58in.
- 14:59But, you know,
- 15:00they tried with the split screen.
- 15:03They did a good job.
- 15:03The broad...
- 15:04The ticker at the top, amazing.
- 15:07Had the lane number in their name.
- 15:09The way they did that with like,
- 15:11it was blue.
- 15:12So you knew where they were at in
- 15:13the workout.
- 15:14It was so good.
- 15:16And the speed to which they were showing
- 15:19the overall leaderboard was so fast.
- 15:22We didn't have to wait for competition
- 15:24corner.
- 15:24I think there's one time where I don't
- 15:26think they were accurate.
- 15:28But for the most part,
- 15:29it was like the workout was done or
- 15:31the event was done.
- 15:32Here's the results of that event.
- 15:34Here's the results of the overall right
- 15:36now.
- 15:38Even when the competition got done,
- 15:40how many times are we waiting hours for
- 15:43the whole podium, drug testing,
- 15:45all of that to be done?
- 15:46And we're still waiting,
- 15:47even though most of us have done the
- 15:49math to see who goes on.
- 15:50But it was like right away, this person,
- 15:52this person, overall leaderboard.
- 15:56So I want to highlight a couple of
- 15:57things from the broadcast.
- 15:59One, I love that, Carolyn.
- 16:01They just put a little tag saying
- 16:03unofficial pending leaderboard.
- 16:05That's all you have to do.
- 16:06Just cover yourself with that and get the
- 16:09numbers up.
- 16:10You know what the scoring system is.
- 16:12And they did not disappoint.
- 16:15It was up quick.
- 16:19The graphics on the top,
- 16:20not only the rep counters,
- 16:22but the workout written across the top,
- 16:25highlighting as the leaders hit those
- 16:27spots.
- 16:28Freaking awesome.
- 16:32Then when they would highlight an athlete,
- 16:34their name would pop up and what rep
- 16:37they were on while they were highlighting
- 16:40them.
- 16:41Like that was above and beyond anything I
- 16:44expected.
- 16:47And I did like that as people finished,
- 16:49they just kind of ran them down the
- 16:51side of the screen.
- 16:55So I thought all those things were a
- 16:58huge improvement.
- 16:59But my favorite thing...
- 17:01I barely saw a media member on the
- 17:04floor.
- 17:08The only time I saw them was during
- 17:10the handstand walk and the front squat.
- 17:15Which makes more sense.
- 17:18That's the only event that visually they
- 17:21needed to put something for how many
- 17:25lengths they had done.
- 17:26And Pedro mentioned that too.
- 17:27He was like,
- 17:28I can't even see who's in the lead
- 17:30right now because it's confusing.
- 17:32He's like,
- 17:32maybe something to work on for the
- 17:33following year.
- 17:35Um, but he would admit it.
- 17:36And I mean, yeah,
- 17:37like that's where the visual comes in and
- 17:39just having a little flip card that says
- 17:42what, like what number you're on.
- 17:44Just, you could, yeah, just see better,
- 17:47but yeah.
- 17:49Yeah.
- 17:49I would say the,
- 17:50the handstand walk was the only chaotic
- 17:53event of the weekend where I had no
- 17:56idea where anybody was and I didn't really
- 17:59trust the rep counters because
- 18:02And even Pedro was like,
- 18:03I think they're on this lap.
- 18:06I thought we would see a hand up
- 18:07by now.
- 18:09It was absolutely crazy.
- 18:14And the fans.
- 18:15Look how packed it looked.
- 18:18The sides had a little bit of space
- 18:21like Friday,
- 18:21but where the finish line was,
- 18:24it looked awesome.
- 18:27So Europeans showed up there.
- 18:30And they did a blackout curtain behind the
- 18:32rig, which makes it look better.
- 18:37Just optically,
- 18:37you're not seeing empty seats.
- 18:40You just see a big black curtain.
- 18:42And I think that was a huge add
- 18:45to just give the optics of a successful
- 18:49event.
- 18:52And sports do that all the time.
- 18:53Football teams black out seats in the
- 18:56upper deck with logos and stuff when they
- 18:59know they can't sell them.
- 19:03Yep.
- 19:05Yeah,
- 19:05I was one of the ones that I
- 19:07watched pretty much almost everything.
- 19:08I may have fast forwarded through some of
- 19:10the team like that.
- 19:11There was a lot of teams,
- 19:13maybe more than necessary,
- 19:15but kind of makes sense.
- 19:17I'd say from a revenue point.
- 19:19if that's where you're going to add a
- 19:20few heats, I mean,
- 19:22that's four people per lane.
- 19:23You like,
- 19:24you just add a few of those and
- 19:25you've made up what other events we're
- 19:28adding, we're adding, we're adding,
- 19:29we're adding, we're adding, we're adding,
- 19:32we're adding, we're adding, we're adding,
- 19:35we're adding, we're adding,
- 19:46Because it was one heat of masters in
- 19:48each group.
- 19:49Right.
- 19:50Because they had men and women on the
- 19:51floor at the same time.
- 19:53And three combined for those seventy,
- 19:57sixty, five, sixty.
- 19:58Like they were all combined one,
- 20:00which probably legends put it on that to
- 20:02combine.
- 20:02Like, but yeah, I mean,
- 20:05you really only had four.
- 20:10I still think it's crazy to give three
- 20:12spots to nine people competing.
- 20:14That's nuts to me.
- 20:15They said that's how it was going to
- 20:16be, a factor of three.
- 20:17I think that's the proper way.
- 20:21You make sure you have somebody from the
- 20:24top thirty.
- 20:26You don't need to go down to two,
- 20:28three hundred.
- 20:29It's not affecting anything.
- 20:32From what I went through,
- 20:34pretty much every Masters group had
- 20:39Like, especially in the thirty five,
- 20:41thirty nine, thirty to thirty nine, forty,
- 20:42forty four, forty five.
- 20:43There are people were all people in their
- 20:45top fifteen or ten.
- 20:48Like the right people are moving on and
- 20:50clearing the way.
- 20:50Yeah, the right people are moving on.
- 20:52I'm just saying just crazy to think three
- 20:54spots for nine for nine.
- 20:56I would rather have the ten best go
- 20:59for three spots.
- 21:00Yes, because it's it's achievable.
- 21:05Mm hmm.
- 21:06then you put up one spot and only
- 21:08like two of the best show up and
- 21:10then you get two hundred,
- 21:12two fifty and three hundred.
- 21:13Right.
- 21:14So I think it's a.
- 21:17I get what you're saying, Carolyn,
- 21:18but I don't want to lose how exciting
- 21:22it was at the expense of that.
- 21:26And this semifinal in person for Masters
- 21:28is very new.
- 21:29We don't know how it was going to
- 21:31travel, who was going to show up.
- 21:34And I think this was a year of
- 21:35experimentation.
- 21:37Yeah.
- 21:38The right athletes were here.
- 21:39I'm very,
- 21:40do we even have a leaderboard for Torian?
- 21:42Like, do we know who's going?
- 21:44Not elite, but like.
- 21:45I haven't even got dove into Torian yet.
- 21:48Yeah.
- 21:49I will be curious who,
- 21:50because that's a different,
- 21:51that's completely different traveling.
- 21:53And I don't know,
- 21:54like other than those Australians,
- 21:56like are other people going to travel
- 21:59there?
- 22:05Not as many.
- 22:05Cousin,
- 22:06I'm not saying that I know what the
- 22:08exact top ten is,
- 22:09but you know when you have the best
- 22:12at least like ten of the fifteen best
- 22:15athletes.
- 22:16Right.
- 22:18I mean,
- 22:19you got to do it from quarterfinals and
- 22:20it needs to be a pretty strict invitation
- 22:24process.
- 22:25Right.
- 22:25I think what he's saying is quarterfinals
- 22:29aren't even checked.
- 22:29How would you know?
- 22:33But there's so many things to fix in
- 22:37the Masters thing.
- 22:40That's a show by itself.
- 22:43And we'll talk about that after the
- 22:44season's over and things we can do to
- 22:47change.
- 22:49But right now,
- 22:49we just got to get through this season.
- 22:51So on the team side,
- 22:56Oslo Krager made it pretty easily.
- 23:00Yeah.
- 23:01Oh, yeah.
- 23:01That was locked up.
- 23:04Butcher's Lab was one of the teams.
- 23:08And it's not even...
- 23:14Did they take three teams?
- 23:14It's not two?
- 23:17I don't know.
- 23:18Because the competition corner doesn't put
- 23:20a line on everything.
- 23:25Butcher's Lab was third.
- 23:27CrossFit, Sora, Waturn...
- 23:31Yep.
- 23:31Okay.
- 23:32So they must take three.
- 23:33Oslo-Kriger was first.
- 23:35Yep.
- 23:36I think they take three then because I'm
- 23:37pretty sure Pedro said in Butcher's Lab is
- 23:39made their way back.
- 23:40So, yeah.
- 23:44So that was the team.
- 23:47And then on the elite side,
- 23:53on the men's side,
- 23:54I was actually shocked Jason Opera was in
- 23:56third going into the last event.
- 23:58He wasn't.
- 23:58He had already won.
- 24:00That was a mistake.
- 24:01That's the only time that they got the
- 24:03leaderboard wrong with the two scored
- 24:04event.
- 24:10In going into the final event,
- 24:11Jason didn't even need to do it.
- 24:13He was one hundred and seven points ahead
- 24:15of fourth place at that time.
- 24:17OK, so he had already locked it,
- 24:19but he decided to see them.
- 24:22We should get away with doing the
- 24:23leaderboards right away.
- 24:25I dove in on it.
- 24:26That was the only time that it was
- 24:28off.
- 24:28I remembered that he had three hundred
- 24:30eighty eight points going into that event.
- 24:32So when they brought that up,
- 24:33I was like, well, that's not right.
- 24:34So I I didn't care.
- 24:35I was like,
- 24:36I know we got enough to still be
- 24:37in first.
- 24:39So Hopper wins.
- 24:41Yeah, he won pretty handedly,
- 24:43almost by one hundred more.
- 24:44It's fee big going back to the games.
- 24:48And then Nika Masarazi.
- 24:54Takes third.
- 24:57I guess we should address the elephant in
- 24:58the room since stuff is already out there.
- 25:02Pedro had Adrian Mundweiler on his show
- 25:07six months ago.
- 25:09Adrian tells a story of an athlete from
- 25:12the program who went to Mallorca,
- 25:16borrowed a person's house.
- 25:18When they left,
- 25:19the person came home and found human
- 25:22growth hormone in the fridge.
- 25:26Adrian Mundweiler said that it was Nika
- 25:31Maserati whose it was.
- 25:36Hiller has since done a video reminding us
- 25:39of that conversation this afternoon.
- 25:43I hate that the podium is being tainted
- 25:50by cheating.
- 25:55Allegedly.
- 25:57But it was his friends.
- 25:58Oh, yeah.
- 25:59He said it was his friends.
- 26:01Yeah.
- 26:01Yeah.
- 26:01He told John Singleton it was his friends.
- 26:07And Adrian was pretty hard on John
- 26:08Singleton.
- 26:09Yeah, he was.
- 26:11In that interview, if you go back.
- 26:13Because he had a guy who tested positive.
- 26:17The guy came back.
- 26:18He believed that he was not positive
- 26:20anymore.
- 26:21And he tested positive a second time.
- 26:26So.
- 26:28Anyway,
- 26:28that is tainting this podium and probably
- 26:31will for the next few weeks if he's
- 26:37there for the games.
- 26:39But as Hiller pointed out,
- 26:40you'll never ever catch this guy because
- 26:44the half-life of HGH is so short.
- 26:48And it's honestly in every sport.
- 26:51And I've just given up on thinking that
- 26:54people aren't using in any sport.
- 26:56So...
- 26:57You'd think if he's willing to do that,
- 26:59he's maybe dabbled in other things,
- 27:01though.
- 27:01I mean, maybe he'll get caught.
- 27:03I don't know.
- 27:03Maybe he's smart enough.
- 27:04Who knows?
- 27:05If you're dabbling in other things and
- 27:06you're taking a bigger risk because the
- 27:07half-life is longer.
- 27:09Yeah.
- 27:09And it doesn't leave your system.
- 27:11Half-life for HGH is two to four hours.
- 27:15Yeah.
- 27:15So in, like,
- 27:17thirty-two to forty-eight hours,
- 27:18it's all gone.
- 27:25So...
- 27:26That's got to be frustrating for the other
- 27:30competitors there.
- 27:32I see Patrick say guilty till proven
- 27:34innocent.
- 27:35I've watched sports for too long to see
- 27:37too many people cheat and too many people
- 27:39use excuses that turn out to be lies
- 27:42when they admit it later.
- 27:45I've given up that sports are clean.
- 27:55um then on the women's side i guess
- 28:00i could share this leaderboard on the
- 28:09women's side i'll go there in a second
- 28:14we have mir von rohr amy kringle and
- 28:18elisa fuliano
- 28:20And it was a battle for that last
- 28:22spot.
- 28:23Leah Storen coming off winning team last
- 28:26year almost made it as an individual.
- 28:31Was she team or teen, you said?
- 28:33Team with an M.
- 28:36She was on Oslo-Krager last year.
- 28:41The winning team?
- 28:42Was she on?
- 28:43No, she wasn't.
- 28:44Not the winning team.
- 28:47Oh, I,
- 28:48that's what they said on the broadcast.
- 28:50I just believed him.
- 28:52I don't think so.
- 28:54Wasn't it Oda?
- 28:54Yeah.
- 28:56So they're saying no, they're saying no.
- 28:58Yeah.
- 28:58I think it was Oda and, and, uh,
- 29:00Kristen Hulta.
- 29:03Okay.
- 29:03Oda's also really, really good.
- 29:05My bad.
- 29:07Uh, but it was a great race.
- 29:09Yeah.
- 29:09She had, yeah.
- 29:11Uh, Storen had a great weekend.
- 29:14Great weekend.
- 29:14Same with Claudia Glock too.
- 29:16Um,
- 29:17That top five was really,
- 29:18really close the entire weekend.
- 29:22That crowd there for Claudia just makes
- 29:25you want to cheer for her.
- 29:27Lucy just had that rough first event,
- 29:30really.
- 29:31After that, it was fine.
- 29:33You're not going to come back from a
- 29:35twenty seventh place.
- 29:38It was cool to see some some young
- 29:40people,
- 29:40new names in the top ten for both
- 29:42men and women.
- 29:47Wayne says her handstand walks were next
- 29:49level.
- 29:50Well,
- 29:51I don't know if you guys have seen
- 29:52this.
- 29:52Jamie shared it right before we went on
- 29:55the air.
- 29:55So I'm going to share it.
- 30:00It is an overhead shot of the handstand
- 30:06walk race.
- 30:07And I don't know if you can see
- 30:08it.
- 30:12but it is a look at how fast
- 30:14Storen was to the rest of the competition.
- 30:18She was doing that pivot,
- 30:19and I was like,
- 30:20this is not a good idea.
- 30:21You're wasting it.
- 30:22No, she is so good on her hands.
- 30:25She is the fastest.
- 30:27Her and Andrea are even faster, I think,
- 30:31than Danielle, which is crazy.
- 30:33She knows exactly what she's doing.
- 30:36I was secretly hoping that she was going
- 30:37to qualify there so that she wouldn't be
- 30:40going to NorCal.
- 30:43So now I get to see her at
- 30:43NorCal and we always have a handstand walk
- 30:46event.
- 30:47So she's just going to destroy it there
- 30:48too.
- 30:49Yeah.
- 30:50That pivot was crazy.
- 30:53Their names were in the lane.
- 30:55It was perfect.
- 30:56Everything about this is, I love it.
- 31:00Yeah.
- 31:00Compared to like the side view of the
- 31:03handstand walk and how chaotic it was.
- 31:06Wow.
- 31:06You can see the story right here.
- 31:10Now,
- 31:10I can see the limitation from doing this
- 31:13the whole floor is the scoreboard right
- 31:15here to the right would get in the
- 31:19way of doing a full floor view of
- 31:21that.
- 31:22But that is really cool.
- 31:25There's a few good handstand walkers.
- 31:28Reese was giving Storen a good run for
- 31:30her money for a while in that workout,
- 31:32too.
- 31:33Um,
- 31:34which I didn't think anyone would even be
- 31:36close to storing, but yeah,
- 31:39race did well on that one.
- 31:41Yeah.
- 31:41Reese is excellent on her hands.
- 31:43She won that at syndicate,
- 31:44the handstand walk one last year.
- 31:46She's good.
- 31:47She is good.
- 31:49Yeah.
- 31:52It'll be interesting who goes where now
- 31:53from, you know,
- 31:55there's a few on the bubble here that
- 31:57are tremendous games level athletes and
- 32:01previous games athletes.
- 32:02Do they wait for the online?
- 32:04Do they ask for spots?
- 32:05Do they have already plans to go
- 32:07elsewhere?
- 32:10It'll be interesting to see these next
- 32:12couple weeks and what people's plans will
- 32:14be.
- 32:16Yeah, because you get
- 32:22it's a quick turnaround to go to syndicate
- 32:24or NorCal.
- 32:26If you're an American athlete,
- 32:28if you're a European athlete,
- 32:29Madrid's what?
- 32:30Two weeks away too.
- 32:31Yeah.
- 32:33That same weekend.
- 32:34But people have been doing back to back
- 32:35all season.
- 32:36Yeah.
- 32:38Yeah.
- 32:38That's crazy.
- 32:42What I find interesting,
- 32:43and this isn't in our notes,
- 32:44but
- 32:46You know, last year,
- 32:46everybody complained about competing too
- 32:48much and their bodies were breaking down.
- 32:51And then you get to this season and
- 32:53everybody's competing every week to try to
- 32:56get their ticket to the games.
- 32:57So which is it?
- 33:00I think you got some people who are
- 33:02like James Sprague, who love it,
- 33:04love the competition,
- 33:06just love being out there on the floor.
- 33:08And there's some people who have to have
- 33:13to peak and
- 33:15come down and I noticed in the Masters
- 33:20there was a few of them that qualified
- 33:22that didn't do the online.
- 33:24They did quarterfinals but did not do
- 33:28online.
- 33:29Probably because they didn't want to be
- 33:31sore at all or traveling or whatever.
- 33:34Only a few.
- 33:35It was probably two or three people but
- 33:36there were I think the Natalia Kazmarska
- 33:40in my age bracket did not and she
- 33:42qualified.
- 33:44and amanda cummins who did the online
- 33:46who's like sitting second in the online
- 33:49was fourth so i mean that's crazy but
- 33:54that's one of the reasons you did not
- 33:55do magic city because it was too close
- 33:57to the online wasn't it in case that
- 33:59you needed that to that fallback yeah
- 34:04congratulations by the way wow pending
- 34:08yeah pending one we'll talk about that in
- 34:12a second um
- 34:15So, with all that,
- 34:20I'm trying to see what else we have
- 34:21here.
- 34:22What do you think of the events?
- 34:24Jason looked great this weekend.
- 34:26I just want to say that.
- 34:28He did.
- 34:29I was curious if, like,
- 34:30the front squat or the lunging, like,
- 34:32if I would see anything there.
- 34:34And he looked great.
- 34:35Like, I didn't see anything where he...
- 34:39I was a lot more invested at like
- 34:40the woman's field to me was deeper,
- 34:42was more exciting to watch.
- 34:44Yeah.
- 34:45The men's field was not as,
- 34:48especially like hair,
- 34:49light foot pulled out.
- 34:50We'd still don't know why.
- 34:51If it was just,
- 34:52I heard that it's due to sickness,
- 34:55not injury.
- 34:57yeah like it like you just felt off
- 34:59like you wanted to get checked like it
- 35:00maybe has like an infection or yeah that's
- 35:02what i had heard yeah i just think
- 35:03it's crazy the amount of athletes that get
- 35:05sick on weekends like i'm never sick to
- 35:08be honest like i am never sick and
- 35:11there's like everyone is sick all of a
- 35:12sudden when they compete it's crazy
- 35:15I'm not sick very often either.
- 35:18Like, knock on wood, I've been, although,
- 35:21like I said, last weekend, I felt sick,
- 35:23but I feel like it's from traveling.
- 35:25When I do get sick,
- 35:26it's usually after flying or like my sleep
- 35:29is way off or something.
- 35:31So I can,
- 35:32these people traveling all over and being
- 35:34in these, touching all kinds of equipment,
- 35:37you're, when you're flying,
- 35:39you're touching all kinds of stuff.
- 35:40Like if you've
- 35:41I don't know.
- 35:42I can see it happening more.
- 35:43You're just run down.
- 35:45That used to happen to me when I
- 35:46was running.
- 35:47I would train hard, taper,
- 35:50and that's when I would get sick.
- 35:52I feel like when my body's running hot
- 35:54all the time, I could kill everything.
- 35:56If I stopped, I would just breed sickness.
- 36:01Maybe that three-day taper before events
- 36:04doesn't help them.
- 36:06Carol is a teacher.
- 36:07She has super immunity.
- 36:08I am around.
- 36:11not with kindergartners guys uh the women
- 36:15have stole the semi-finals every week well
- 36:18my hot take and i and i was
- 36:19debating whether saying this or not is
- 36:23where have the the european men gone i
- 36:26mean there was a point where you had
- 36:28the bkgs and the the koskies and
- 36:35Happa line ends and all of those.
- 36:37And it just didn't seem like that,
- 36:40that they're feeding the system anymore.
- 36:43Like it's not what it was.
- 36:46And,
- 36:46but you look on the women's side and
- 36:47it was like a dog fight all the
- 36:52way to like nine, ten.
- 36:56Well, and you notice very like way.
- 36:59I feel like what it was Reese and.
- 37:03I mean,
- 37:03there's only a handful of American women
- 37:05that went over there to try.
- 37:08Right.
- 37:08I don't know.
- 37:10Was it just Reese?
- 37:11It might have been just Reese.
- 37:12Was it just Reese?
- 37:13I think it was just Reese.
- 37:16So, like,
- 37:16that's kind of crazy if you think about
- 37:19it.
- 37:21The European women are good.
- 37:23They are.
- 37:24I wouldn't want any of that either.
- 37:25You can think they go elsewhere,
- 37:26but it's like Europe is there.
- 37:28Like, they're...
- 37:30it runs deep on the woman's side.
- 37:32Like it's not any easier going to try
- 37:34to fight,
- 37:35like try to fight a spot in Europe.
- 37:37No.
- 37:39So my question to you is,
- 37:41is Jason that good or is the European
- 37:45men feel that bad?
- 37:49I do think Jason is that good.
- 37:51I think that, yeah,
- 37:52I think a little of both there to
- 37:54be honest.
- 37:59Uh,
- 37:59Wayne says Hoffer did come to the U
- 38:01S and stole a spot.
- 38:02That was all over the comments.
- 38:04It was hilarious.
- 38:05And I love that Peter.
- 38:06I that's the other thing.
- 38:07I liked that Peter was occasionally in the
- 38:08comments.
- 38:09He would no dumb, dumb, like he's like,
- 38:13you know,
- 38:14took one of our spots and he wasn't
- 38:17busy enough with the commentating.
- 38:19He had to be in the comments to
- 38:20looking and pulling things off.
- 38:21Like he was all over.
- 38:25uh jason is is that good that's what
- 38:29tessa says and patrick says mad women's
- 38:33field is just as stacked i believe it
- 38:39do we have any american women trying to
- 38:40go to madrid i know i know sydney
- 38:42mclishan told me that that was the one
- 38:45that she was going to do okay um
- 38:48i haven't heard of other north americans
- 38:50going there
- 38:54Patrick does make a good point.
- 38:56A lot of the European men have aged
- 38:58out and Lazar was supposed to take the
- 39:00mantle.
- 39:02And so you are missing a big cog
- 39:05to the European wheel.
- 39:07And then Victor would have been there.
- 39:10I mean, Victor would have been there too.
- 39:13But you could add five more names and
- 39:16you're not as deep as the women's field.
- 39:19yeah agreed yellow didn't leave he had
- 39:22surgery nine weeks ago he's like rehabbing
- 39:24right now so and so i don't know
- 39:30it just seems it it seems flat because
- 39:34like we're we're gonna go to syndicate the
- 39:37american the american men's field is deep
- 39:41the european women's field is deep it's
- 39:45yeah and maybe that's just where we are
- 39:47maybe that's just the cycle of the sport
- 39:49uh fergie question of the week would jamie
- 39:57rather go back to regionals format or ping
- 39:59pong all over the world trying to qualify
- 40:02for the games hundred percent regionals
- 40:05i'm of the i'm of the mind i
- 40:08know it can't work but i'm of the
- 40:09mind that
- 40:11We get the, like, seven, eight regionals,
- 40:12however many you want,
- 40:14and they're all on the same weekend.
- 40:15It's whatever.
- 40:16I realize that time-wise some might start
- 40:18twelve hours earlier,
- 40:19but it's one set of programming.
- 40:22I know the floors will be different.
- 40:24I know everything's not perfect,
- 40:25but I would just rather see everyone go
- 40:28similar times, same workout,
- 40:30and you take the top forty scores.
- 40:34Unpopular opinion.
- 40:42Europe is not Victor and Harry.
- 40:43There are plenty of others,
- 40:45including Roman.
- 40:45True, Romans.
- 40:49But isn't Roman Asian?
- 40:51Even if he was in his own country?
- 40:53He would have been in, yeah.
- 40:57Yeah.
- 41:00But, okay.
- 41:01Do or die, it's coming.
- 41:04I hope.
- 41:06That's been my dream.
- 41:07All right, so... Actually,
- 41:09Vicky had a great question.
- 41:12They on the front squat,
- 41:15a lot of athletes chose not to do
- 41:17the second rep.
- 41:19Do you think that should have been
- 41:20allowed?
- 41:21I think that that should have been a
- 41:24combined.
- 41:26I don't know.
- 41:26Cause then you're really like favoring the
- 41:29really strong athletes.
- 41:30I don't know.
- 41:31I thought that was weird.
- 41:33Should have just been one window if they
- 41:35wanted it to matter like that.
- 41:43It didn't bother me in the moment.
- 41:45Or did you like the fifty-fifty?
- 41:46I liked the fifty-fifty.
- 41:51So we can do a full endurance test
- 41:53for a hundred,
- 41:53but then the weight and the gymnastics
- 41:55would be fifty-fifty?
- 42:02I would agree with you if that would
- 42:03have been a five-day run.
- 42:04I would say yes,
- 42:05that should have been fifty.
- 42:06But because it was rowing and weighted and
- 42:08the sandbag in there,
- 42:09I feel like
- 42:10that made it multi-layer i mean wasn't
- 42:13even the best like it wasn't that you
- 42:16didn't necessarily get your best runner
- 42:19winning that event what was what was
- 42:23miriam on that event i wouldn't call
- 42:26miriam the best runner i think amy's a
- 42:28better runner well yes of course and i
- 42:30mean amy took it but like you would
- 42:33think miriam would be closer to her i
- 42:35don't even think was she even
- 42:38What, seventh, tenth?
- 42:39I have no idea.
- 42:40It was seventh.
- 42:40Seventh.
- 42:43If it would have been a straight five
- 42:46K run, I would totally agree with you.
- 42:49Yes.
- 42:55I thought the double workout was weird.
- 42:57I have a bone to pick with a
- 42:58movement that I've seen now twice at
- 43:00Mayhem and here, the dumbbell bench press.
- 43:03I don't know why people keep doing this
- 43:06now with the bench and just tilting.
- 43:09It's like doing dips.
- 43:10And why that's counting.
- 43:13That's not...
- 43:15They did at Mayhem.
- 43:17I see people training it all the time.
- 43:18Is this a new thing now that people
- 43:20just do this for their bench press?
- 43:21Yeah.
- 43:22It's like dips.
- 43:23I'm telling you.
- 43:24They just touch their shoulders like this.
- 43:28It's bothering me.
- 43:29It's bothering me.
- 43:30I'm not a great bencher,
- 43:31but I don't do the tilting.
- 43:34And I'm just seeing a lot of my
- 43:35competitors are doing it.
- 43:36And I'm like,
- 43:37do I need to start training this?
- 43:40No.
- 43:40Keep doing proper movement here, Ellen.
- 43:43It's weird for me because...
- 43:46Have you noticed it?
- 43:47I want to bench like a bar.
- 43:49So my dumbbells always like stay with one
- 43:53dumbbell touching each side,
- 43:55but not tilted.
- 43:56Like,
- 43:58but I do what I see what you're
- 43:59saying.
- 43:59Like, it's just this quick.
- 44:02It's a skull crusher.
- 44:05They just tilt it.
- 44:06They literally like, yeah,
- 44:07it's like nice and wide elbows.
- 44:09And they just kind of lean the dumbbell
- 44:11just so that the dumb,
- 44:12the head just touches the shoulder.
- 44:16I don't know.
- 44:18Maybe.
- 44:19Everybody's looking for... Jeremy,
- 44:21I think, says it the best.
- 44:23Crossfitters be crossfitting.
- 44:25Yeah.
- 44:26Always looking for the shortest range of
- 44:28motion.
- 44:28Yeah, I don't like it.
- 44:30It's the same for me.
- 44:31It's the same with dumbbell thrusters and
- 44:34kettlebell thrusters.
- 44:34I can't stand that shit.
- 44:38That same style is happening with bench
- 44:41press right now.
- 44:42I've seen it in two competitions and I'm
- 44:44seeing it in people's training videos.
- 44:49I also hate resting the dumbbell on the
- 44:54shoulder with barely a grip on the one
- 44:57overhead walking lunge.
- 45:00And Jason did it to perfection.
- 45:02Or would you rather the vertical?
- 45:06If the vertical is out in front and
- 45:08not hanging off the back,
- 45:10I'm okay with it more than just sitting
- 45:14on my shoulder.
- 45:14Yeah.
- 45:22Did you like the programming this weekend?
- 45:25I liked it.
- 45:26Yeah.
- 45:27I noticed, I mean, there,
- 45:28it was slightly different programming from
- 45:31elites to masters,
- 45:32which was something Hiller talked about in
- 45:33his video that programmers need to maybe
- 45:37consider that.
- 45:39Um, cause they didn't do that run workout.
- 45:43They had a double under or like a
- 45:45something else.
- 45:46I remember.
- 45:46Yep.
- 45:47Yeah.
- 45:47Cause I remember I was trying to compare
- 45:48scores between the masters and I was like,
- 45:50wait a second.
- 45:50They didn't even do the same workout.
- 45:53They did do the, I mean, they did,
- 45:55what,
- 45:56at least four of them the exact same.
- 45:58I don't think they did that front squat
- 45:59handstand walk.
- 46:00So they did four of the same workouts.
- 46:02They did something different for the run
- 46:03and something different on that.
- 46:06But I saw,
- 46:07I was looking at Leto's rope climb,
- 46:10the rope climb one.
- 46:11She would have been like fifth overall in
- 46:13the elite in that workout.
- 46:16Yeah, she killed it.
- 46:21She did.
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- 46:55The master's version of that rope climb
- 46:58one was slightly different.
- 47:00Oh, it was?
- 47:00I thought it was the exact same.
- 47:02They have eight, six rope climbs,
- 47:04thirty toes to bars.
- 47:06Let me just see if that's the same.
- 47:08I don't think it's quite the same.
- 47:13For some reason,
- 47:13I thought I said elite thirty five and
- 47:15then like something changed when I was
- 47:16looking at it.
- 47:19But that would be.
- 47:20Phil says not athletes,
- 47:22not put movement standards on the judges.
- 47:25If they can get away with it,
- 47:26they will keep doing it.
- 47:27Yep.
- 47:29Yeah.
- 47:29The elites had forty toes to bars, ten,
- 47:32eight rope climbs.
- 47:33OK.
- 47:33And I think the thirty five had thirty
- 47:36or thirty toes to bars on both ends
- 47:38and eight, six rope climbs.
- 47:40Nonetheless, she's she crushed it.
- 47:42She's a very good gymnast.
- 47:44I totally agree with that.
- 47:45And that has been something that's been
- 47:47preached by athletes.
- 47:48They say it all the time.
- 47:49Well, the judge,
- 47:50let me get away with it.
- 47:50And they I can't stand that mentality
- 47:53like.
- 47:56That's why this sport has gone in this
- 47:58direction.
- 47:59Because people won't.
- 48:01I mean, it's going to happen.
- 48:02Yes.
- 48:03And at some point,
- 48:04when you're moving like shit, they...
- 48:08they just,
- 48:09especially if you start that way,
- 48:10like if you,
- 48:11if you start really well and then you
- 48:12get a no rep, it's easier to see.
- 48:14But if you start moving shit by moving
- 48:16shitty there, they're only going to,
- 48:18I mean, Danny's got gotten away with that.
- 48:20Like she's just going to keep squatting
- 48:21that way.
- 48:22Sure.
- 48:22They might give her five, no reps,
- 48:23but like she just, she barely fixes it.
- 48:28But as a competitor,
- 48:29it's hard because like,
- 48:30if you don't do it,
- 48:32you're falling behind in the race when
- 48:34you're doing it in person.
- 48:35It's like the GHD version that people are
- 48:37doing right now.
- 48:37I never used to train as high as
- 48:40I do now on the GHD,
- 48:42but like everyone's doing it and they're
- 48:43allowing even that white line,
- 48:45as long as you're just behind it,
- 48:46you're still fine.
- 48:47So I'm like, well,
- 48:48I have to start working on this technique
- 48:50to even up on the speed that people
- 48:52are doing it with and how much easier
- 48:55it is on the body.
- 48:56Like,
- 48:58it's annoying because,
- 48:59but then it's when it's online,
- 49:00like you don't risk it because then you
- 49:03don't get that no rep in like online
- 49:06chance or like in person,
- 49:08you can get a no rep and adjust
- 49:09and you can't get that online.
- 49:11I think that's what's happening online
- 49:12though,
- 49:13is people are stuck in that movement
- 49:16pattern.
- 49:17And I'd say for the most part,
- 49:19they get away with it.
- 49:20Like there obviously was nothing through
- 49:22the quarterfinals.
- 49:23Like it didn't,
- 49:24it totally didn't matter how people moved.
- 49:26Um,
- 49:28And there's people who, like,
- 49:30I feel like this online review process is
- 49:32kind of a crapshoot.
- 49:33Like,
- 49:34you very well may get away with it.
- 49:36So I guess you might as well try
- 49:38it.
- 49:40And the thing with the online,
- 49:41I don't know if we can go there
- 49:42right now,
- 49:42but the top people get reviewed so much
- 49:45more than the bottom people.
- 49:47And if they're just going off of the
- 49:48public review,
- 49:49some of the people towards the bottom that
- 49:51may only had, you know,
- 49:52three or four downs and two or three
- 49:55ups, they didn't get enough downs,
- 49:58let's say for them to get a further
- 50:00review by CrossFit.
- 50:02So their videos are good.
- 50:03Because the top people just get
- 50:05scrutinized to the max,
- 50:07and then it just gets less and less
- 50:09as the leaderboard goes down.
- 50:11I do want to finish up the in-person
- 50:12judging piece real quick.
- 50:14Eric Mackey says, don't like it either,
- 50:16but that's all sports test the gray areas.
- 50:19When I played football, offensive line,
- 50:21my coach said to me,
- 50:23everything's legal till you get caught.
- 50:27So like...
- 50:28If you need to hold and you need
- 50:30to trip and you need to do whatever
- 50:32you need to do,
- 50:33keep doing it until the ref calls it.
- 50:37And I think that that is an attitude
- 50:39in a lot of sports.
- 50:41So it's not just CrossFit.
- 50:43What makes CrossFit more noticeable is if
- 50:47you're in the gym training for everyday
- 50:49life, you want good movement.
- 50:52You want good range of motion.
- 50:54You want the perfect things.
- 50:57But you're not racing every day in the
- 50:59gym.
- 51:01The minute you put it into an athletic
- 51:03competition,
- 51:04people are going to try to skirt the
- 51:06line.
- 51:12And that's... I think that's just sport.
- 51:20Yeah, I don't know.
- 51:21That's where I wish you could appeal other
- 51:23people's scores.
- 51:24But I do want to...
- 51:26If you're right next to somebody and
- 51:28you're videoing your lane and the person
- 51:31next to you is getting away with murder.
- 51:33I think you can in WFP.
- 51:38You can appeal someone else's score.
- 51:39That's probably the way it should be.
- 51:41Tessa makes a good point.
- 51:43You can show your video versus a lot
- 51:46of times the CrossFit events,
- 51:48they won't take
- 51:49your video,
- 51:50they'll take only their video and their
- 51:52angles.
- 51:53And I know that WFP will allow you
- 51:56to facilitate the process of appeals by
- 52:00giving the video or appealing someone
- 52:02else's score.
- 52:04Tessa says,
- 52:04are the judges same caliber as they were
- 52:06back in the day?
- 52:08I think the top judges are the same,
- 52:10but they are spread so thin now.
- 52:13But I also think the athletes are better
- 52:15and moving faster.
- 52:16And some of the movements,
- 52:18some of the like workouts,
- 52:20because there was no reps back then, too.
- 52:23But it's just like social media wasn't as.
- 52:27Picking on it as what it is now,
- 52:29but.
- 52:32Yeah, no.
- 52:35So what Vicki says is completely my issue.
- 52:38She says my,
- 52:39Vicki says my issues is the regular gym
- 52:42goer watching that and then moving that
- 52:44way in their own workouts at the gym.
- 52:46That is a hundred percent my issue.
- 52:49And I,
- 52:50I watched a lot of the teens videos
- 52:52and it's clear to me that they are
- 52:56watching the elites and moving that way.
- 52:59That's exactly what's happening.
- 53:00And I will tell you,
- 53:01go watch a little league baseball game and
- 53:03they're doing the same bat flip and
- 53:05they're doing the same bat swing as
- 53:07everybody in the major leagues.
- 53:09Go to a high school football game and
- 53:11everybody's wearing the same sweat bands
- 53:14and the same weird socks or whatever and
- 53:18doing the same dances when they get an
- 53:20interception or a sack.
- 53:22That is,
- 53:23that is just the way life is with
- 53:25sports around.
- 53:26You are going to look at the people
- 53:28who do it best and you're going to
- 53:30try to emulate them.
- 53:31Okay.
- 53:32But if somebody were to call that out,
- 53:34like killer does,
- 53:35if more people called that out and I
- 53:36was like, that's not right.
- 53:38And we correct some of that stuff.
- 53:41How's that work for little league?
- 53:44How's that work for high school football?
- 53:48It's totally different.
- 53:49How?
- 53:54Well, Michael,
- 53:57I think this is a valid comment.
- 53:59I don't love the,
- 53:59that's just sport excuse.
- 54:00CrossFit has made virtuosity a pillar of
- 54:03its message since the beginning.
- 54:05I think that means something even in the
- 54:06sport setting.
- 54:07I agree.
- 54:08And I,
- 54:08that would be my argument against Scott.
- 54:10Like we chose to make moving well,
- 54:17a basis of our sport before it was
- 54:20a sport.
- 54:21Now you've developed a sport from it.
- 54:29You are not going to be able to
- 54:30contain it.
- 54:30People are going to skirt the line.
- 54:33It's just the way it is.
- 54:35We have volunteer judges.
- 54:36I get that.
- 54:45CrossFit disagree, SGA fouls,
- 54:49foul baits all day and the NBA is
- 54:51not changing shiz.
- 54:55Right.
- 54:56It happens in all sports.
- 55:03If you want to go with virtuosity,
- 55:07I hate to agree with PC,
- 55:08but then you would have to get rid
- 55:10of the sport and keep the virtuosity to
- 55:13the gym.
- 55:14Oh, that is not true.
- 55:15There is a way to move very well
- 55:17on the floor.
- 55:18There are athletes who do it.
- 55:24I mean, I rarely,
- 55:26we rarely saw Rich skirt the line.
- 55:29And Barry Sanders handed the ball to the
- 55:31ref when he scored a touchdown.
- 55:33You have people that did it well in
- 55:35the NFL.
- 55:36But Deion Sanders didn't do it like Barry
- 55:38Sanders.
- 55:41And they even have the same last name.
- 55:56Those sports aren't judging movements,
- 55:58just the results of the movements.
- 55:59Gymnastics judges movements.
- 56:06they still celebrate they still do things
- 56:09um my my sister was a diver she
- 56:12emulated greg luganus when she was a kid
- 56:15like you it just is what it is
- 56:19people doing a sport are going to look
- 56:20up to the people that do it better
- 56:22than them and they're going to emulate
- 56:23them so
- 56:31we pick, you got to fix it.
- 56:32You got to put the white tape on
- 56:34the GHD.
- 56:35You got to take,
- 56:36do something to correct the dumbbell.
- 56:38Like Michael saying,
- 56:39do something to correct the standard now
- 56:41before it gets out of control.
- 56:47I, I agree with you.
- 56:49I agree that you should make the rules
- 56:51easy to judge and eliminate as much of
- 56:54it as you can,
- 56:55but you're not going to ever get rid
- 56:57of all of it.
- 56:59Um,
- 57:00Maybe I'm naive,
- 57:01but I don't remember anyone saying shit
- 57:02about Matt Ortiz's quality of movement.
- 57:04So it is possible to be the best
- 57:07and not shortcut.
- 57:10I think if you went back and watched,
- 57:11people would still complain about both of
- 57:14them in different times.
- 57:15But they do have pretty good movement.
- 57:17But I will tell you, as a judge,
- 57:20we were warned about certain high-end
- 57:23athletes and their movement standards and
- 57:26how crappy they were.
- 57:28And they were podium athletes.
- 57:33Look for this movement.
- 57:35Look for that movement because they skirt
- 57:37the system.
- 57:39But now you've spread that judging
- 57:41community so, so thin.
- 57:46You have, and they're not all equal.
- 57:47Some judges hold a higher standard,
- 57:49and then that's not fair on the field
- 57:53when you get two lanes that are outrageous
- 57:56and a couple allowing anything.
- 58:03Yeah.
- 58:06I am speaking the truth.
- 58:09And the crazy thing is the judges that
- 58:12told me that like the head judges were
- 58:14people like Chuck Carswell or people like
- 58:17Adrian Bosman that are still there
- 58:19fighting the good fight.
- 58:21It's just, it's too,
- 58:23it's probably will forever be too big of
- 58:26an issue.
- 58:28I don't know.
- 58:29I mean, I just feel like,
- 58:32Like the,
- 58:32the people lunging today and not finishing
- 58:35their lunch.
- 58:36Yeah.
- 58:36Like,
- 58:37I guess pull up the video and take
- 58:39off.
- 58:39Fifteen, twenty seconds.
- 58:40Like, I don't know, there's,
- 58:41there needs to somehow be a correction for
- 58:45that stuff.
- 58:46It needs to get called out.
- 58:51Yeah.
- 58:52Some of those are bad.
- 58:55Yeah.
- 58:56So Patrick was in the same briefing I
- 58:58was in,
- 58:58in Nashville when those conversations
- 59:00happened.
- 59:06So let's move on to online,
- 59:09and we can now rain about the online
- 59:11judging process.
- 59:15Jamie did online semis,
- 59:19and just so everybody's clear,
- 59:20and I know it's been out there now,
- 59:23and that is that the French Throwdown
- 59:25results and the Torian results will come
- 59:29before the online semis for Masters
- 59:32athletes.
- 59:34So if an athlete qualifies at the French
- 59:36Throwdown,
- 59:37they are removed from the leaderboard.
- 59:39Well,
- 59:39they're probably not going to be removed,
- 59:40but they won't factor into the numbers
- 59:43that go to the games from there.
- 59:45See, like, are their scores... Okay.
- 59:48Do their scores still count and affect the
- 59:50leaderboard, or are they just...
- 59:53Now you're above my pay grade.
- 59:54But that's interesting, right?
- 59:56Right.
- 59:56I don't think they'll pull them.
- 59:57I literally just think, like,
- 59:59if they're...
- 59:59Because that would be interesting if
- 1:00:01Hawley does...
- 1:00:04Um,
- 1:00:05a leaderboard that a one and erases those
- 1:00:08people's scores that could affect certain
- 1:00:10people in some workouts at the end of
- 1:00:12the whole season.
- 1:00:14Once, uh, once it's done,
- 1:00:15because you're still affecting the scores,
- 1:00:19but not participating in the on,
- 1:00:20like in the online now,
- 1:00:21because you've qualified.
- 1:00:24Uh, cross fat says, oh good.
- 1:00:26The old backfill trickle down days,
- 1:00:30you know,
- 1:00:31what would have prevented this putting the
- 1:00:33online semi at the end.
- 1:00:34Yeah.
- 1:00:36Or at the start,
- 1:00:37it's at the end of the start,
- 1:00:38but it makes the most sense at the
- 1:00:39end.
- 1:00:41Come on.
- 1:00:43Um,
- 1:00:45Jamie is in the process for people that
- 1:00:48don't know Jamie finished fourth.
- 1:00:51in her age group which is a qualifying
- 1:00:54spot jamie where are you at right now
- 1:00:57with video review four out of five have
- 1:00:59been approved which one are you missing
- 1:01:01two the burpee one the burpee back jump
- 1:01:04over shuttle run that should be fine yeah
- 1:01:08i i feel like that's not the one
- 1:01:11that most people have any issues with yeah
- 1:01:16um
- 1:01:19Call the fire department.
- 1:01:19Carolyn now has Holly's keyboard smoking.
- 1:01:26That is the truth.
- 1:01:28And shout out to Holly again.
- 1:01:29She was phenomenal again this weekend with
- 1:01:33overall leaderboard schedules with both
- 1:01:38Eastern time zone and Paris time.
- 1:01:42So you could actually try to figure out
- 1:01:44where you were.
- 1:01:48uh crossfit wants to know you didn't run
- 1:01:49half as far right like only do half
- 1:01:52the that's sure you could have done that
- 1:01:55too i think we're all i think people
- 1:01:58understand it now right it's been i hope
- 1:02:00man it's been five years so we're still
- 1:02:03waiting on all that but but it is
- 1:02:06obvious that they are getting through
- 1:02:08videos yeah and jamie has four of the
- 1:02:10five approved and the ones with the more
- 1:02:12down votes are already approved
- 1:02:16So did you,
- 1:02:17have you had one that you got,
- 1:02:18you've had one that was reviewed by the
- 1:02:20CrossFit team?
- 1:02:22Correct.
- 1:02:22How many down views did you have in
- 1:02:24order to get that?
- 1:02:25I don't know.
- 1:02:26I haven't looked at that,
- 1:02:27but I want to say my number two
- 1:02:28had, I don't know,
- 1:02:31three or four down views on it too,
- 1:02:33which.
- 1:02:33Well,
- 1:02:34your deadlift one had more down views,
- 1:02:36which I still cannot figure out why.
- 1:02:38Yeah.
- 1:02:39Yeah.
- 1:02:39Cause you were great with your elbows.
- 1:02:41I.
- 1:02:44I know that that's a big emphasis that
- 1:02:46you had.
- 1:02:47You had no muted hip at all.
- 1:02:50No.
- 1:02:50Cleans are one of my biggest peeves in
- 1:02:52the sport.
- 1:02:54The videos that I watched,
- 1:02:57I couldn't even review those because I
- 1:02:59would have no-rapped fifty percent of
- 1:03:01everyone's cleans.
- 1:03:02I was just livid.
- 1:03:05How many people complaining about judging
- 1:03:07standards are stepping up and taking the
- 1:03:09time now to actually review videos?
- 1:03:11Just saying,
- 1:03:12I've judged over a hundred and fifty.
- 1:03:15I've judged a ton.
- 1:03:17Or I did.
- 1:03:18I guess we only had until Thursday last
- 1:03:19week, but yes, I did.
- 1:03:20I did a ton.
- 1:03:22I've judged a lot,
- 1:03:23but I don't have the equity.
- 1:03:24Do you need your advanced judges course to
- 1:03:26judge or just your L-I?
- 1:03:27Because I'm able to judge as well,
- 1:03:29but I'm just wondering what people needed
- 1:03:31for that to enter the public one.
- 1:03:35That's a good question.
- 1:03:36I have the advanced.
- 1:03:37Because I have the advanced one as well,
- 1:03:38which is why I didn't know if it
- 1:03:40was just the people that have the advanced
- 1:03:41ones that can judge.
- 1:03:45Yeah.
- 1:03:46A lot of people bent down early for
- 1:03:48the last deadlift in the last minute.
- 1:03:49They were literally hands on the bar
- 1:03:51basically at night.
- 1:03:52I'm like, you have to start tall.
- 1:03:53Yeah,
- 1:03:58I thought it was you couldn't touch the
- 1:04:00bar before.
- 1:04:00I thought I couldn't touch the bar too.
- 1:04:02Hands couldn't be on the bar before the
- 1:04:06But the movement starts normally standing
- 1:04:08tall, like in general.
- 1:04:14I read the standards for that because I
- 1:04:16was confounded,
- 1:04:16but I couldn't tell you yay or nay
- 1:04:19on that now because it's been a week
- 1:04:22and a half.
- 1:04:28That you don't know the answer to that
- 1:04:29question, Carolyn,
- 1:04:30is an issue with the system.
- 1:04:32probably probably good but i have all of
- 1:04:34those credentials so i don't know if like
- 1:04:37i wouldn't know for other people i think
- 1:04:40what he's saying is the fact that we
- 1:04:42don't know the standard for a deadlift and
- 1:04:45what is the starting position and the is
- 1:04:47an indictment on the system position at
- 1:04:50any minute in a workout even like you
- 1:04:51can't start a burpee at the bottom almost
- 1:04:54to the ground like you start at the
- 1:04:55top and then it's like three two one
- 1:04:57go and you go
- 1:05:01Well,
- 1:05:01I saw like five hundred false starts this
- 1:05:03weekend.
- 1:05:07I thought about that when if that was
- 1:05:09going to be the case.
- 1:05:10So I feel like if they wanted you
- 1:05:13standing tall,
- 1:05:14they needed to have this one where your
- 1:05:16back was to the bar.
- 1:05:19On every top of the minute and you
- 1:05:21turned and deadlifted.
- 1:05:22Well,
- 1:05:22it's the first time it's been an email.
- 1:05:24I'm in an online qualifier, right?
- 1:05:27Like, I don't know.
- 1:05:28I put my hands on the bar.
- 1:05:30I don't know if I was bent over.
- 1:05:32I don't know.
- 1:05:32I saw tons of people take their last
- 1:05:35clean after the time was up.
- 1:05:37I did see that.
- 1:05:38And I stopped.
- 1:05:39And count it.
- 1:05:40And count it.
- 1:05:41And count it.
- 1:05:42I stopped.
- 1:05:42Like in the middle of a power clean,
- 1:05:45the judge gives it, but like,
- 1:05:46it's okay if the judge gives it and
- 1:05:48it's like,
- 1:05:48just review your video or whatever.
- 1:05:49Like once you review your video and you're
- 1:05:51like, there's the ten minute right here.
- 1:05:54You don't get the rep even if it's
- 1:05:56ten during the ten.
- 1:05:57It's like, no,
- 1:05:58at the ten where you are,
- 1:06:00that's the movement stops.
- 1:06:04that's sad kelly jackson who's on crossfit
- 1:06:08seminar staff didn't finish the online
- 1:06:10qualifier because she couldn't find two
- 1:06:12judges with the proper credentials also
- 1:06:15speaking of that i did see like the
- 1:06:17emails of you couldn't some people like if
- 1:06:20they registered late that has to be a
- 1:06:22new rule this year because last year
- 1:06:24during the semi-final i literally paid for
- 1:06:26a few people to do their like advanced
- 1:06:28judges course that weekend to help me out
- 1:06:34like additional people because i already
- 1:06:35had two judges and i paid for like
- 1:06:38two additional judges that weekend to help
- 1:06:41me out so like that must have been
- 1:06:43a new rule from this year the like
- 1:06:46too late to do your advanced judges course
- 1:06:51yeah i feel like they could have
- 1:06:52highlighted that somewhere yeah maybe in
- 1:06:57the in the um
- 1:07:01like invite email like hey you've
- 1:07:03qualified just a reminder you need your
- 1:07:08two they need to already have taken the
- 1:07:11prior to the start of the event yes
- 1:07:15Boom.
- 1:07:15Like I used my same two from last
- 1:07:17year.
- 1:07:17So,
- 1:07:18and the advanced judge course is good for
- 1:07:20three years.
- 1:07:20So like I,
- 1:07:21that wasn't even anything that crossed my
- 1:07:23mind, although I had, I gone.
- 1:07:25So I, after I saw this happening,
- 1:07:28like I told you guys that I had
- 1:07:29considered going to Seth's gym over in
- 1:07:31Grand Rapids.
- 1:07:32And that was going,
- 1:07:33that was kind of going to be the
- 1:07:34issue because I, Leah was like, well,
- 1:07:36we can,
- 1:07:36we both have our all at once.
- 1:07:37We can take the advanced judges course.
- 1:07:40Well,
- 1:07:40I wouldn't have probably gone over there
- 1:07:42till like Saturday.
- 1:07:43So I probably would have told them Friday
- 1:07:45and it would have been done before
- 1:07:47Thursday.
- 1:07:47So I think I would have been and
- 1:07:50I would have been so pissed.
- 1:07:52Like if I had done that and then
- 1:07:53it would have been all for not.
- 1:07:56I still think that secondary judge.
- 1:07:59Is so useless.
- 1:08:00So useless.
- 1:08:01It's just a hassle for people.
- 1:08:05And it doesn't even matter.
- 1:08:06Their videos are public anyways,
- 1:08:08which are going to get judged.
- 1:08:10Take away that second judge.
- 1:08:12Be like a suggested second judge or
- 1:08:15someone to look at your video to make
- 1:08:17sure that the judges is in frame,
- 1:08:19that your measurements are good.
- 1:08:21Like it could be a suggestion because like
- 1:08:23most people doing these online qualifiers
- 1:08:26are by themselves or maybe with one more
- 1:08:28person.
- 1:08:29Maybe.
- 1:08:30Very few people are like the proven group
- 1:08:33that have like ten people going at once.
- 1:08:35That would need maybe a secondary head
- 1:08:36judge or floor judge.
- 1:08:38No, sorry.
- 1:08:39Head judge, floor judge, head judge.
- 1:08:41Like going over everything.
- 1:08:45It's just work for nothing.
- 1:08:51So let's move on to Dave's behind the
- 1:08:53scenes of
- 1:08:58walking with the wheel the measuring wheel
- 1:09:00we know that's so accurate i think that's
- 1:09:06just user error every time uh so anyway
- 1:09:11he's at the sap center yards he is
- 1:09:15what he is measuring in feet and
- 1:09:17converting to yards maybe that's the
- 1:09:20problem yeah just keep it meters
- 1:09:26So anyway, he's at the SAP center.
- 1:09:28He's walking around.
- 1:09:29So it does appear that there is going
- 1:09:31to be an outdoor run of some sort
- 1:09:34going out of the venue and back in
- 1:09:38at a minimum.
- 1:09:40Happy about that?
- 1:09:42Yeah.
- 1:09:43It doesn't matter for us.
- 1:09:44Well, maybe Carolyn.
- 1:09:45I think that should happen.
- 1:09:47Do you use the outside?
- 1:09:49Yeah.
- 1:09:49But as a fan of the sport,
- 1:09:50are you happy?
- 1:09:51Yeah.
- 1:09:52Mm-hmm.
- 1:09:55then he he looked at both directions and
- 1:09:58asked about permitting both directions and
- 1:10:02then he went up barack obama way or
- 1:10:04barack obama street or what i don't know
- 1:10:06what it is and asked if it would
- 1:10:10be okay to shove a big big object
- 1:10:13down the street and they said like what
- 1:10:17and he goes we have this thing called
- 1:10:18the big bob
- 1:10:22Could you imagine the sight of just a
- 1:10:24bunch of sleds down the street?
- 1:10:28The sound,
- 1:10:29the screech of that metal on the asphalt.
- 1:10:33I think it would make everybody run away.
- 1:10:35Yeah, no, thank you.
- 1:10:38He has to be joking, right?
- 1:10:41Yes.
- 1:10:41He just put that in there as like
- 1:10:43a... I don't know.
- 1:10:51But I don't think that many big bobs
- 1:10:53could fit on the street.
- 1:10:55Like,
- 1:10:55how many teams would you have in a
- 1:10:57heat?
- 1:10:58Like, two?
- 1:11:00Three at most?
- 1:11:02Yeah, I don't know.
- 1:11:03That would make no sense.
- 1:11:05Now, if he's trying to deviate or, like,
- 1:11:07defer, and maybe it's, like, sleds,
- 1:11:10I don't know.
- 1:11:10Who knows?
- 1:11:14Can drag a big bob down Barack Obama
- 1:11:16Boulevard.
- 1:11:18Si se puede?
- 1:11:18No.
- 1:11:26I don't know.
- 1:11:26What's the translation there?
- 1:11:38I don't know.
- 1:11:39I don't know.
- 1:11:40I kind of agree with Vicky.
- 1:11:41I think he was trolling.
- 1:11:42Yeah, I do too.
- 1:11:44Because I do agree with Carolyn.
- 1:11:46There's no way you're getting ten big
- 1:11:48bobs.
- 1:11:50on Brock Obama Boulevard.
- 1:11:54No, because how do you pass a team?
- 1:11:56It's not like a field where you have
- 1:11:57all these lanes.
- 1:11:58It makes no sense.
- 1:12:01Or they could put wheels on it and
- 1:12:03a turning signal and then you have to
- 1:12:04switch lanes to get around.
- 1:12:08No, it's not happening.
- 1:12:11Yeah,
- 1:12:11I can just see all kinds of issues
- 1:12:13with that.
- 1:12:13There's no way.
- 1:12:17That's not a
- 1:12:19level playing field yeah but it was a
- 1:12:24funny troll because you know barbell spin
- 1:12:27had their post with a picture of the
- 1:12:29old bob and he posted a picture today
- 1:12:31of one on facebook marketplace in case you
- 1:12:35need one i did like the stairs up
- 1:12:38and down though i think that's cool yeah
- 1:12:42i think they'll use that
- 1:12:47I do think half of the video is
- 1:12:49trolling, though.
- 1:12:52I don't.
- 1:12:53I think it's Dave going back in time,
- 1:12:58reminiscing about the twenty years and all
- 1:13:00the trolling he did in the past,
- 1:13:03and he's bringing it all back for twenty.
- 1:13:09Those stairs are wider,
- 1:13:11but are they wide enough?
- 1:13:14There's separation on runs.
- 1:13:23do you think if dave came out and
- 1:13:24said walk down in the single like single
- 1:13:28thing of stairs during the berm and stuff
- 1:13:30like the berm runs and then like that
- 1:13:33was just you just don't pass at that
- 1:13:35point you pass on the on the on
- 1:13:37the flat like that's do you think if
- 1:13:42dave came out and said they were doing
- 1:13:43multiple outdoor events that it would help
- 1:13:45sell tickets no no if they were in
- 1:13:50madison yes
- 1:13:55Here, no,
- 1:13:56because Thursday is off-site and not open
- 1:14:03to the public.
- 1:14:07So that doesn't help sell anything.
- 1:14:12And as Carolyn has said a million times,
- 1:14:14what would sell more tickets is cheaper
- 1:14:16prices.
- 1:14:18We are not big enough to sell tickets
- 1:14:21at that price.
- 1:14:23And it's already expensive enough when
- 1:14:24people go for the full weekend for
- 1:14:26flights, hotels, food.
- 1:14:28If you make the tickets cheaper,
- 1:14:31more people come and then more people will
- 1:14:33want to spend at the vendors as well.
- 1:14:36Right now,
- 1:14:36people don't want to spend at the vendors
- 1:14:38because they've already paid so much money
- 1:14:40on their tickets and hotel and everything.
- 1:14:43It's just crazy.
- 1:14:45The reason...
- 1:14:48The location in Madison was packed all the
- 1:14:50time is you could buy a ninety nine
- 1:14:51dollar festival pass.
- 1:14:55For the weekend.
- 1:14:57And you could go and you saw a
- 1:14:58couple outdoor events at Orange Park each
- 1:15:02day.
- 1:15:03And then you got to hang out with
- 1:15:04people and watch the rest on a big
- 1:15:06screen TV or go enjoy downtown Madison or
- 1:15:11whatever.
- 1:15:12But that's why the seat sold.
- 1:15:15It was cheap.
- 1:15:16You got to hang out with other
- 1:15:17CrossFitters.
- 1:15:20The arena was only for the evening events.
- 1:15:25The arena being all day sucks.
- 1:15:29And if we're in an arena,
- 1:15:30there's no way you can do that again.
- 1:15:35Because there is no outdoor venue,
- 1:15:37festival area to do that in.
- 1:15:53I think this idea of expanding and moving
- 1:15:55to overseas or whatever and getting
- 1:15:57smaller so they can do that is just
- 1:15:59a bad move.
- 1:16:01Go back to Madison.
- 1:16:03people showed up in madison you had
- 1:16:06multiple options there or find someplace
- 1:16:10similar yep and then once it becomes
- 1:16:19popular again and back on the right
- 1:16:22trajectory then worry about other things
- 1:16:25but not now also one piece of good
- 1:16:32news
- 1:16:34And I saw it mentioned way early on
- 1:16:35in the chat.
- 1:16:39Tia Toomey gave birth.
- 1:16:42They are now a team of four.
- 1:16:46Introducing Coda Toomey Orr.
- 1:16:51Very cute.
- 1:16:53And Willow giving the kiss.
- 1:16:56Yeah, that's cute.
- 1:16:58I saw Jamie Simmons also like twenty weeks
- 1:17:01pregnant as well.
- 1:17:03I saw that today too.
- 1:17:06I thought it was funny as Lex after
- 1:17:09that was posted said,
- 1:17:11so is it time to give Tia a
- 1:17:12special invite to the game?
- 1:17:13Yeah.
- 1:17:19She could be ready by then.
- 1:17:21How many months is that?
- 1:17:22I think we only got like six weeks
- 1:17:23or something.
- 1:17:24She's done it before.
- 1:17:29Yeah.
- 1:17:29Yeah.
- 1:17:30I bet you she'd finish top ten like
- 1:17:32easy.
- 1:17:32It's so crazy.
- 1:17:37There may be something like incredibly
- 1:17:38heavy that she couldn't really do,
- 1:17:40but post-workout she would still freaking
- 1:17:43crush.
- 1:17:45I don't think she would finish last on
- 1:17:46any workout.
- 1:17:49That's so crazy.
- 1:17:50It's so crazy.
- 1:17:52And it's true.
- 1:17:53It's so crazy.
- 1:17:54CrossFit.
- 1:17:55If CrossFit just hammered Big Ten and ACC
- 1:17:58campuses, it would work.
- 1:18:00And I saw Patrick said,
- 1:18:02then rent out the dorms for cheap to
- 1:18:04the volunteers.
- 1:18:06Oh, that's cool.
- 1:18:06I'd stay in a dorm.
- 1:18:07You could rent that out to the athletes
- 1:18:09for cheap.
- 1:18:11You could rent it out to spectators for
- 1:18:13cheap.
- 1:18:15Yeah.
- 1:18:16Dude.
- 1:18:16It would be like a little mini Olympic
- 1:18:18village.
- 1:18:18It would be freaking crazy.
- 1:18:20Get the door,
- 1:18:21get the cafeteria up and running.
- 1:18:27So there's a lot of talk about someone
- 1:18:29asked Dave about the Capitol being the
- 1:18:31greatest event ever.
- 1:18:33And Dave kind of brushed it off that
- 1:18:35it was, it wasn't the greatest.
- 1:18:37It was just that moment at the end.
- 1:18:41And people were saying he would never
- 1:18:43admit that somebody else's programming was
- 1:18:45better than his.
- 1:18:46Because that was a Boz event.
- 1:18:50I was in Madison.
- 1:18:51That was a freaking great event.
- 1:18:54The run was gorgeous.
- 1:18:57The run to the Capitol was gorgeous.
- 1:19:00That's my favorite event I've ever done.
- 1:19:02And all of those different apparatus that
- 1:19:06you had to get up the,
- 1:19:07get to the steps and up the steps.
- 1:19:10I thought it was chef's kiss.
- 1:19:13Great event.
- 1:19:15It was hard to.
- 1:19:18The farmer carries,
- 1:19:20then you could hold a certain for a
- 1:19:22certain distance.
- 1:19:23You could have the bag like this.
- 1:19:24And then once you got to the stairs,
- 1:19:25you had to do this.
- 1:19:28That's cool.
- 1:19:34Dave,
- 1:19:35who cares about the Capitol and Gwen?
- 1:19:39Well,
- 1:19:40I think it's funny that he dogged Gwen
- 1:19:42and then people were pointing out the
- 1:19:44muscle-up biathlon and all the events that
- 1:19:47he did where there was a stop and
- 1:19:49you had to...
- 1:19:51And the penalty on that muscle-up
- 1:19:53biathlon...
- 1:19:55When you no-repped on the last rep and
- 1:19:58had to run the two hundred meters,
- 1:20:00that was significant too.
- 1:20:03Massively significant.
- 1:20:10The volunteers use the dorms in Madison
- 1:20:12and it's a possibility in San Jose.
- 1:20:15They just don't have the campus to put
- 1:20:18everything.
- 1:20:25And the one year,
- 1:20:26I guess it was Boz's program,
- 1:20:27it had double-unders that were unbroken
- 1:20:29and then Tia missed on the single-unders
- 1:20:31that had to be unbroken and then had
- 1:20:33to start over and then didn't even make
- 1:20:36the cut on that event.
- 1:20:39And the Rebel Renegade Games,
- 1:20:43whatever it's called,
- 1:20:43next weekend have an event where
- 1:20:46double-unders, it's max unbroken.
- 1:20:48What if you just trip on the first
- 1:20:50one?
- 1:20:50How many people trip on the first one?
- 1:20:52A lot.
- 1:20:56yeah yeah there's like a three part i
- 1:20:58don't know how they're scoring it but
- 1:20:59that's crazy when tia didn't make the cut
- 1:21:03it was like when ivan drago got cut
- 1:21:06and started bleeding crazy and then it
- 1:21:12healed up and she demolished everybody
- 1:21:15anyway just just giving her a little
- 1:21:19challenge
- 1:21:25Dave has just lost his creative juices.
- 1:21:27Time to move on.
- 1:21:28I don't think he has.
- 1:21:30I think that I don't think he has
- 1:21:33the right palette.
- 1:21:35I think arenas are not meant for this.
- 1:21:39I would much rather see it on a
- 1:21:41football field or the Capitol was great
- 1:21:46because it wasn't in the arena.
- 1:21:48Right.
- 1:21:50The capital is because you got to run
- 1:21:51by the lake and you got to run
- 1:21:53into downtown Madison.
- 1:21:55And then you go up those steps,
- 1:21:56which were hard to begin with.
- 1:21:59And you put this big weight on you.
- 1:22:04You have to have the right palette to
- 1:22:06be able to paint the picture.
- 1:22:17If you truly think that Dave has the
- 1:22:19choice of where they go,
- 1:22:21I think he has input,
- 1:22:22but he doesn't make the choice.
- 1:22:29That is the board of directors,
- 1:22:30one hundred percent.
- 1:22:35I don't know.
- 1:22:35I think he probably had quite a lot
- 1:22:37of influence on this one.
- 1:22:41And he got it exactly where he wanted
- 1:22:43it.
- 1:22:46And we'll see what happens now that he
- 1:22:47does have, he can't go outside.
- 1:22:50He can't go to the ranch.
- 1:22:52What does the weekend look like?
- 1:23:03I have a couple other things.
- 1:23:04I just have a quick question for you,
- 1:23:06but I do have to go to the
- 1:23:07airport and pick up my mom tonight.
- 1:23:09So we have to end on time.
- 1:23:11NorCal is with their schedule has
- 1:23:13announced kind of that there's seven
- 1:23:15events.
- 1:23:18Do you think it's going to be seven,
- 1:23:20one hundred point events or do you think
- 1:23:22it's going to be like we saw at
- 1:23:24French with seven events, two being fifty?
- 1:23:28I think it's going to be seven,
- 1:23:29one hundred point events.
- 1:23:31Do you think that's better?
- 1:23:34Anytime it's more events, it's better.
- 1:23:36Yeah.
- 1:23:40I don't know if it's seven on the
- 1:23:41floor or are they having a, like they,
- 1:23:44they always, yeah, like a floater one.
- 1:23:46That's what I was wondering.
- 1:23:48One of them's a floater.
- 1:23:49It just is, you know,
- 1:23:50when it's in barbell spin this week, uh,
- 1:23:53what they released the schedule of events,
- 1:23:55uh,
- 1:23:57They're not going to release events prior.
- 1:23:59Every other event will release theirs one
- 1:24:01to two weeks in advance.
- 1:24:03NorCal has never released their events
- 1:24:06until the Thursday of registration,
- 1:24:09and then they brief it that night.
- 1:24:16Phil B. says they're seven at Torian.
- 1:24:21CrossFit, seven events,
- 1:24:22but the last two years,
- 1:24:23there's been linked events and one event
- 1:24:25that sort of didn't count.
- 1:24:32Yeah, the row run was combined.
- 1:24:35And, of course,
- 1:24:36the gator and the bucket hold that didn't
- 1:24:40end up being a part of the final
- 1:24:41score.
- 1:24:46Yeah.
- 1:24:53So anyway, there's that.
- 1:24:55Syndicate's coming up.
- 1:24:56We're going to dive into that next week.
- 1:24:58We'll recap Torian next Sunday.
- 1:25:02We'll preview NorCal, Madrid,
- 1:25:05and Syndicate all next week.
- 1:25:08Damn, that's going to be a busy show.
- 1:25:12I think there's Rebel next week as well
- 1:25:14with Torian, I think, right?
- 1:25:16Yeah.
- 1:25:18I'll be honest.
- 1:25:18There'll probably be a faster recap of
- 1:25:21Rebel than it will be for Torian.
- 1:25:22Well,
- 1:25:22it's only one person we got to highlight.
- 1:25:24We'll get the spot for the female there.
- 1:25:30Already calling it.
- 1:25:31Isn't that where Annika's going?
- 1:25:34No, Annika already has her spot.
- 1:25:36Oh, yeah.
- 1:25:36Annika already went.
- 1:25:37Who else is going out there?
- 1:25:37I feel like there's another American.
- 1:25:39I think Hannah Black, maybe.
- 1:25:40I don't know.
- 1:25:41Let me go see.
- 1:25:42Hannah Black and Var Thurman Moe.
- 1:25:45Also very good.
- 1:25:46Yeah.
- 1:25:47Hannah Black's looked really good this
- 1:25:48year, too.
- 1:25:53Those are the type of weekends that are
- 1:25:54hard because if it's only like three
- 1:25:56really,
- 1:25:56really solid competitors and the rest are
- 1:25:58like good,
- 1:25:59you can't mess up an event changing and
- 1:26:01you have one bad event and you're done.
- 1:26:03Can't mess up.
- 1:26:04Cannot mess up.
- 1:26:05That's where I don't think it's a good
- 1:26:06event for Hannah black.
- 1:26:10She has gotten so much better,
- 1:26:12but she could still slip up on event.
- 1:26:15I would say has a greater chance of
- 1:26:16slipping up on an event than Matilda's.
- 1:26:23We will see.
- 1:26:26Guy learned that lesson in South America.
- 1:26:31Is Guy doing any of them?
- 1:26:33No, he's only doing online.
- 1:26:38Oh, wow.
- 1:26:39And WFP.
- 1:26:40WFP basket.
- 1:26:41Yeah,
- 1:26:44I don't think he envisioned making it.
- 1:26:47I think he just did the stuff because
- 1:26:48he was doing it online.
- 1:26:50Didn't think he was going to get this
- 1:26:51far.
- 1:26:51And he's, I don't know.
- 1:26:54Welcome to my world.
- 1:26:58Except for you fibbed.
- 1:27:00You knew all along.
- 1:27:02No,
- 1:27:03I just said I was going to go
- 1:27:04along as the season progressed.
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